The Fellas With Anthony Gargano & Geoff Schwartz Dive Deep into Super Bowl 60, Talk Prop Bets & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Super Bowl Sunday.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Here we go. Super Bowl weekend is a.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Pot us Seahawks Patriots fellas Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano and uh,
good morning, Jeff, it's finally here. Super Bowl Sunday.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Boy. I hate that two week layoff.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I mean it was fine one week come without football,
and we had two weeks repair for the game. And
I think that, you know, two weeks, you know, it's
it's fine, I guess, and then thinks I was in
San Francisco this week and good vibe for the game
is different in a in a bigger type city though,
like San Francisco. But fun to be out and uh,
you know, see some of my peers and talk some

(00:53):
shops for a couple of days.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, it's like a convention. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool.
I just hate the two weeks. And I'm made it.
I'm it's here. We made it, though, we we we
made it. The game is here shortly, and I know
I forget me. I'm I'm I'm gonna. I'm gon wannery.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's because your egos might be bad next year. It's
probably why you're ornery a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I mean, I look at it. We'll get it to
that later, but I look at it from the lea.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's like, you know, uh, God country, you know, God,
family country, whatever. Right, Like it's the sport, Like ither
I revere the sport. The team is one thing, but
the sport is greater than the team. I love the
sport and I'm going to miss the sport.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
This is it last game, and all the nonsense like
it's my least favorite game of the season sounds crazy,
but it's my least favorite game.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's it's because there's so much time to talk about it, right,
And you get to a point where and we're gonna
previo the game today where it feels like you said
everything you can say, right, there's nothing more to say.
And it's funny being in San Francisco and talking to
different people about the game obviously, right, and there seems
to be a consensus between you know, the film guys

(02:17):
on the game and the gambling guys. Right where you
look at this number four and a half and a
lot of people that you know that that make their
numbers and and whatnot. You know, they're on the Patriots
for the most part, right, the number is too big
and both defenses are good, and and then the film
guys are all on Seattle man like that. My buddies
that watch a film and study it and all that stuff, like,

(02:37):
they're on Seattle big. So it's very interesting to the
dynamic between those two things, and and just talking to
a lot of people out there and seeing what they
think about this game.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think the general public gets on Seattle.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I don't care see the thing about the public versus
the sharp thing in one game like this, I don't
I don't care about it in a single game. It's one.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
No, I'm just just saying, I don't know about reading
into it.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm just thinking.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
But every every layman that I talked to, well, they
all love Seattle. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's
an offense that is more of an offense you could
cat on, right, Like I think it's.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
More of an anti patriots thing. But also I think you know,
the country forever, it's so dude. Fandom is interesting and
the way we view sort of like a lot of
these things. So you know, obviously, New England for so
many years was a dominant power, right, and they're back
in and people just don't like New because of Tom Brady.
But you know, people always do this thing where they
say like they want to you know, I don't want
to watch a game, or I don't want to watch
a certain team, or this team wins too much. But

(03:39):
the fact is is that you guys all watch dynasties, right.
We see the ratings when there are known teams in
super Bowls, in in in in college basketball championship games.
You guys all watch it, so you know the idea
that everyone's tired of of so and so. No, the
the numbers do not show you are tired of watching

(04:00):
the Patriots or the Chiefs or the Eagles in these
big games. So I don't buy any of that from
the public.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Ever.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I think these big brands, these sort of known quantities,
are teams that we actually want to watch. And so
I think people just dislike the Patriots. They're picking the Seahawks.
But the number show that you guys want to watch
these these known quantities play.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
The only thing is I don't think the Patriots have sex.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Appeal, not without talking, not not now what they used
to of course.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Right, And I look at this team like if the
Bills were in it. I figure you're I think there
would be a greater buzz.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
The two weeks to your point, though, does kill the
buzz of the game like that, It really does. And
you know, again, the San Francisco was great. I enjoyed it,
but it's it's a it's just a tougher city to
have a game because it's such a big city, right,
Like New Orleans is awesome because the entire city, like
you're just all together down by the Superdome, right, and

(04:59):
and you can in downtown and Bourbon Street, like everyone's
just sort of there, and it does feel like a
big event is there. Sometime doesn't feel that way, right.
You could walk you know, three blocksmen front of the
Convention Center where they had NFL Experience and NFL Shop
and obviously the media, and you wouldn't even notice the
super Bowl was happening. Like I walked twenty minutes for
dinner one night, and you just like everyone's living their life.

(05:22):
Like there's not even one banner for the super Bowl.
It's not even one pop up shop. It's not even
one person wearing a Seahawks or Patriots jersey, So that
that is different for super Bowl ex there just go
and then they.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Do the games in Santa Claire too, so.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
I know it's an hour away, correct, Yeah, And so
that that I think makes it a little bit different
than maybe other Super Bowls. But look, we're all gonna
watch Sunday. Hype will be there, everyone will be back watching,
and so should be a good game.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean obviously everybody's gonna watch. But
you don't think that if the Bills were in it
it'd be more exciting, because I of course.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Still would be, but the Bills, the Bills, I haven't
been in it, so like there's no but I mean great,
and I'm just.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Gonna have the story.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
This year would have been the year for them, but
they chose to not not.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Be good to choose. They chose right, this.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Is this is this is the year to do it.
We all said it, this was the year, right. I
mean no, they didn't expect the Chiefs to not be
as good, and they expect Joe Burrow and the the
Bengals to not be good. I mean you know that
those were expected, but this ended up being the year.
That's why you never know when you have to be
ready to go, right. You got to prepare every year
you can win a Super Bowl. Yeah yeah, Now, now.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
I do think the game is closer than everybody else does.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I uh, what's that?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Oh yeah, I know you feel that way.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I don't. But we weren't off the side. It could
have been sides. Yeah yeah. And and and I guess
here's why. I I still think that the Patriots front
is going to rattle.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Donald is going to get to Arnold.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
And so you know, my theory is vaybel and the
Patriot defense, And that's the only way the Patriots stay
in the game is through their defense, because they're not
gonna be able to go toe to toe and stay
in it unless they're you know, keeping Seattle limited. And

(07:21):
I'm gonna I would bet on their defense.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah. That the only way for them to keep this
game relatively close, I think is for defense to make
enforced turnovers. And so you know, we'll get into some
of our best bets. I think this is the first quarter.
Under is a great great way during this game. I
think both teams realize that they have to play a
sort of a defensive field position game, right, Like, there's

(07:46):
just let's limit mistakes, especially early in the game, right,
and let's make sure that we don't lose the game
early on. And you look at a team like you know, now,
they're gonna have a great opening script. Khu guys have
a great script for them, but they know, like, let's look,
let's ease Donald into this, let's run the football, let's
not let him make mistakes early, right, you would get

(08:07):
him confident. And for New England, their office just hasn't
been that good in the postseason. I don't expect it
to pick up against a great like so I think
I think it's a situation where you're gonna see, you know,
fairly early on, a lot of just you know, mindfulness
on offense, right, kind of just see what's going you
know what's crazy? Tom Brady, I believe it ends up

(08:28):
being eight Super Bowls started with New England, right, one
six loss too. He didn't score one touchdown in the
first quarter in any of those games. Like they just
New England has just started slow in the Super Bowls, right,
the Chiefs have started slow in Super Bowls. It's it's
just it's natural, right, It's the nerves. And and I
was thinking with this, and I didn't go to the

(08:50):
rosters completely, but I was thinking about this the other day.
I probably maybe should. I don't think one starter on
your team has played super Bowl before? Wow? Right, like
think about the rosters. Who's playing super Bowl before? I'm
going through my head real quick. No, no, oh sorry,

(09:10):
Cooper Cup has one? What MVP? So one one has
Cooper Cup and he was obviously the MVP of that
super Bowl. That's it is, you know, he's not he's like, uh,
you know, you know, maybe he plays what maybe he does,
it's not, you know, I don't think he's a key
to this game. That's it.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
One Hooper excellent, Brianna gives us Austin Hooper.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
She's right, do you play super Bowl with efforting?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
That super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
The thirty one, not thirty one? That that that's that's seventeen. Yeah.
He was on the Patriots. Oh no, he was on
the Falcons. The Falcon Yeah yeah. Okay, So to two guys,
I mean like, that's it's just like, it's not it's
not three. These guys are just not you know, they
played a long too. But I think early on it's

(10:01):
going to be you know, you know, just a little
tighterly on.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah. I could totally see it. I could totally say
it totally see.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
And then it becomes again to your point, like who
makes less errors? Do we trust? Sam? Donald? I feel
the one thing I feel most strongly about is New
England's not going to score a lot of points in
this game unless they forced a ton of turvor in
certainly possible. I don't think. I don't think Donald.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
You know, it's funny. We don't see it that differently,
you know. I I just see Seattle.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
You see seventeen thirteen, I see twenty four to thirteen.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, the difference, right, yeah, exactly, yeah, it's exactly right.
The Edmund Waie you were there? Is he what's his status?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I thought it was someone close to the he practice
foiler to day. Obviously practice is not really like much
right now. They expect him to be fine, all right,
and they expect Darnold to be fine and drank made
to be fine. Now.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Edmond Warr is the one I was working, correct.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Because he's he's he's so important to them than what
they do defensively, because they so multiple, you know, finished
second and in defensive rookie the year buddy, I oh,
I have I cart some sweaching. You're forty to one, okay,
I to win Defensive Rookie of the Year. Wow, they
didn't that. He was like the second to last award
announced on the NFL Awards the other night, and I

(11:17):
was like, oh boy, come on. I was like, oh no,
here we go. They're not going to give it to me.
And he ended up winning pretty pretty easily quick quickly.
I don't I didn't watch NFL Awards. I'm I'm It's
not like jam. I don't really care. I just want
my guys to cast my tickets well and got okay,
crable and then and then Drew Ski, who I like,

(11:38):
chose the wrong moment to be a comedian. The NFL
has got to fix this, right. You can't have and
I know Rabel's name was it was it was just
an error. It wasn't on purpose, you know, Drewsky made
it on purpose to to miss to miss say Jayson's name.
That's disrespectful and like, you can't have a NFL Honors

(11:59):
program them where two of the winner's names are mispronounced
like that. That gotta be fixed next. Yeah, I don't watch.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
I just think that's ridiculous. I'll watch you, but still
like that's that's a pretty bad look for the NFL.
I hate award shows. I think their pretentious and ridiculous watches.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I mean, I don't think anyone in our age group
watches award shows anymore. And well, I don't know, Yeah,
I don't watch what does like?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, my wife is all about the Oscars, like she
likes to watch that stuff. The Grammys were just I
don't know. I'm aggressively disinterested in that, Like I don't care.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
What's the outfits? That's what she cares about.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah, the same thing with my wife, But I don't
care about it. And I definitely don't care about the
NFL honor. I really don't care about the things that
I don't care about our NFL honors, uh, NFL, the
Pro Bowl, flag football format.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I got zero interest in anybody what I.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Do, what I did watch on the internet. I mean,
when after came out with was I do like the
Hall of Fame announcement? That was fun?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
I don't watch it, but i'll i'll uh, I'm acxious
to see you know who gets what and you know
that sort of thing. But all the other fluff around it,
like the next fluff I'm interested in. I do like
the combine because I like to talk and it's more

(13:27):
about the prospects and kind of you know, we're diving
into all the draft and we've seen some tape and
we're kind of looking at it and talking about it.
It's less about watching them, you know, you know, do
to twenty five and run and run a forty, But
it's more about the idea of the draft and talking

(13:50):
about the players. I like that piece of it. And
then I do love the draft. The draft is awesome
about this year.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's fairly interesting because it's not a draft that is
going to be sexy at all, right, and there's not
even a lot of guys that have first round grades
in this draft. But yeah, the combine is fun for
me because you know, mostly off it's a lineman. But
you know, I'm watching film right and throughout the year,

(14:22):
and you know, I just I like to see if
the film matches the physical testing, right, That's what the
combine's for, and so you'll be able to watch that
is to me enjoyable. So yeah, I mean the combine's fine.
But then you know, of course wouldn't get into fre agency,
which we're gonna have a couple of weeks start talking
about building your team for twenty twenty six, and then
the segment for twenty twenty six begins immediately.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. I I love it. You
know it'll be good.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
It'll be a good draft for you because that you know,
mid to late round there's so many offensive linemen.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, it's gonna be one of those.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
It's a it's a it's a cool, it's a it's
a good draft that way.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
But back to the game, it's gonna be really interesting
because I just believe in both defenses.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I do and I listen.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Donald's been fantastic, and if you're the Vikings every day
of this season, you've rude the fact that you got
rid of Donald. You just did like and handed the
keys to McCarthy. Just a terrible mistake.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I think the revision history of that it's quite fascinating
to me because at the time, I think that most
of us would have said, yeah, I can't why you
get rid of Donald? Right, he's in a one year contract,
he's a bridge quarterback, and a two most important game
season he did not play very well.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Right, Yeah, you judge them all two games, you know,
you look at the rest, right, But the body of
work should have counted. Now, sure, but I think when
you're on a one year contract like that and you
have this young kid that's ready to play that you
get judged very harsh on those two games, right, and
it just didn't work out, So they went to the

(16:03):
other kid, which I can't make sense in a vacuum.
The problem is McCarthy's just not good. Well that's a
bigger problem. Well, that's the issue, is that you have
a kid that's not ready, that's not good, and where's your.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
But they didn't know that. You have to play him
to know that. That's partly why they got rid of
Darnold was to play the guy that they drafted to
figure out IF's good or not.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Well, yeah, but yeah, but you have to have some
sort of feeling about the kid, like to go and
naked with it was just a mistake, Like, all right,
if you want to move off from Donald, at least
have Rogers, have Rogers there and let the kid watch
another year.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Which you should just fetch.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Well that's what I would have done, a two year deal.
A year, Yes, you can't. You just couldn't give the
kid the keys without adding any kind of idea about
who he is.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I I thought the moment it was fine. I still
believe it was fine. It didn't work out for for
them like this obviously that they'll cost people jobs. I mean,
that's what happens when you don't you know, your quarterback's
not not good enough. But in the moment, I thought
it was perfectly fine what they did. It didn't work
out for them, and you know they're they're OC. I
mean they're they're GM paid the price. He is no
longer their general manager. Yeah. Yeah, wow. Anyway, I did

(17:24):
think I did.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
And the whole point of bringing this up is to
talk about Donald because I think Donald has Listen, we
all saw those two games and they were bad, right, Like,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I can't sugarcoat it.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
They were bad Turno and he has these meltdown type
of games, but that's just who he is. He also
does a ton of good Like, yeah, he's gonna have
those moments. He's a gunslinger and he's gonna have bad games,
but he's he's gonna give you way more good games
than these imploding games.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
So as a thought experiment the other day about this game, right,
because look, when you have all these weeks to think
about two weeks to think about the game, and you know,
you think you change your opinion on a lot of things.
You overthink things. Right If I if I told you,
if I just gave you a blank quarterback name, right,

(18:20):
so Joe Smith and put Sam Darnold's season right and
Joe Smith's name, I think you would be like, man,
it's a good season for that quarterback, and you would
trust him in this moment. Now, of course, there's you know,
you can't just do that because there's history, right, You
can't just decide to just use one season with a
blank name. Is the reason why you're a quarterback, aren't
a quarterback. But the fact is, like there's a lot

(18:42):
of good from Darnald and and I think that we
overlook that because his name and the hiss of past
history with him, and to your point, like there, you know,
do you ignore all of that because he's played really
well this season and for the most part, Look, the
first Rams game was not good right for USUS. The
second Rams game in the first half wasn't very good.

(19:03):
Two interceptions, but they played well in the fourth quarter
overtime wins the game. And then he's played well in
the postseason so far. He's played really well. So what
what Donald do you get? You know, New England you're
able to to protect inside. Their left guard's really good,
their centers good, Seattle, and then the right guards an issue.
So you'll barrymore Williams get after the right guard. Right.
This the thing that I think that people are dismissing

(19:28):
a little bit is this idea that you know that
Jaysn is gonna like be shut down by newt He's not.
He's not gonna be shut down by New England.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah, but what he said he's gonna get shut down. Well,
at least I'm on hearing that. I think a lot
of people think, think, Thinkngland front it's to win this game.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, it does nothing to do with Donald as much
as there wasn't.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
The fronts could They're gonna pressure him up the middle
like there's gonna be there's gonna be pressure.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I mean, so Donald threw a touchdown past the Jasn
with the defensive linement in his face the other day.
It was beautiful. I mean, he's showing the ability to
play well.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
But again we got to take a quick t o
before bree flog.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
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He's in my ear right now. And then this was
the third break. The first break is break time, breakdown,
break time break.

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You will go to break.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Because I don't want an angry bree Where the fellas.
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(24:46):
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Speaker 2 (25:03):
I was it you know, you're right, so.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Non his non coach.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Right, So it was like somewhere to hang out, you know,
when you know he wanted to go grab a beer.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
It was like, I'm here, coach.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
That's true though, right, I mean all these guys, their
friends tend to just be the guys they are with
all twenty four to seven.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, it makes perfect sense. How we you know again,
how we operate. Right, you're spending your whole life in
the facility. That's where your friends are going to be,
and you're an everyday life is is I'll never forget.
And I don't think Steve care about this, but it
was funny he he You know again he spent years
and year decades coaching and then he had there was something.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Like when the script he had to go to the
drug store or whatever.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
And you know, and you know this, but anybody like
at the facility at stuff take it, you go to
see the trainer.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
You're sick.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
So now all of a sudden you got to do
like this everyday life stuff like wait, where do I
go for this stuff like pharmacy?

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Right, wall queens, it is It is true though, I mean, look,
we're very spoiled, right, I mean a lot of you know,
a lot of stuff is taking care for us when
when you're playing, when you're not, it's a lot different
sometimes when you get some of those services and goods,
uh for so many years a certain way and then
having to do it like in civilian life, it's it's

(26:31):
a it's a I know people in listening feel very
sorry for us, but it is it is quite different
when you leave the NFL and things are not quite
handled for you the same way.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, I mean.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Listen, when you're spending that kind of time, you know,
it's a part of it, and especially when it comes
to health, right, your health has to be optimum, So
of course you would get that kind of care. You know,
there's any shame in that, you.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Know, there's not, but it's just it's just when you
get your point, like when you go, when you're done,
and you know, things revert back to like how most
people live their life exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
You know what's funny.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
I was talking to Sean McDermott and you know, I
think he's gonna come back to into the area, my area,
and we were talking about because he was talking to Steve.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
They were they're all from.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
The same from Andy Reach Tree, right, like it's it's
you know, Andy's Tree. It's so amazing the accomplished coaches
that has come from the tree. So so Sean is
taking a year off and he'll you know, to assess,
he'll he'll look at next year and assess what job
he wants because he'll he'll have a little lot of Yeah, yeah,

(27:43):
so he's gonna look at you know what, what a
good spot and and uh so he'snna spend the year,
uh you know, evaluating grinding and and he'll do the
same kind of thing like NFL films and grinding tape
and everything else. And uh, I go, dude, I'm around
if you need a beer. Yeah, I told this back.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
It's it's true, though, Man, there's a it's a it's
a The amount of film being watched is uh. I
think people you know have an idea of what it is,
and it dude, it's even more than you think. I would.
I say some people like, do you want to coach?
I'm like, am I like a coach from nine to five? Yeah?
Signing up for that.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
But the problem is every player has the same reaction,
like I don't want to work that hard.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's not nine to five. It's it's not the work,
it's it's the it's the family life thing. Like I like,
it's tough. I've just gotten so into now, you know,
my kids' sports and whatnot that going. If you decide
to coach immediately out of playing, I think it's a
much easier transition, right because you just go from coach.

(28:50):
I mean from player to coach, like you're still in
it to right, your family is still sort of in
that life. What did you become you know when you're
done about ten years and longer than that, like when
you and it's just it's I think it's almost impossible
to go back. I got a buddy Jordan Gross play
over the Panthers for.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, over.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
He just became a coach at Utah and like that
from that he was coaching in his local high school.
But that it's a big jump man to go from
from at that age, having not been in the building
for that many years, to go from. I give him
credit for it. To go from you know, being a
high school off of the line coach essentially to being
now a Utah off of the line coach when you

(29:29):
haven't done that. I mean, this your life is completely
different now. Yeah, you don't talk about you know that
kind of grind. It's it's recruited, yeah Gross, Yeah, yeah,
it is. It is you.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
You know, you talk to those coach you know those
coaches and you're just constantly on the on the move.
They're just it's just it's a lot. You brought it up.
We were talking about you know, we were talking about Kingsbury.
Interesting because Kingsbury goes to Los Angeles to join that staff.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
He is an all star staff.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
And I brought up the points to you that you know,
maybe college he goes back to college because you know,
he could have such great success there and you get
big jobs.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
But you brought up the point, man, it is tough,
Like if you're.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Gonna go run a program, you better be ready for
the grind.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, I was surprised Kingsbury did not get a job
in this cycle. You know, it's he's doing something that
actually happens far more like the college side, where it
feels like a lot of you know, Nick Sabans sort
of had this forever, this like yeah rehab program where yeah,
you know, former coaches that were former head coaches college
NFL would come to him and just basically be an

(30:40):
analysts for a year. That's what he's doing with Los Angeles.
I was just doing it in the pros. He's an
analyst for a year essentially, and he'll you know, and
maybe he wants to learn from the Sean McVay tree
a little bit right to help grow his game, and
then he'll be able to be a head coach or
at oc again. You know, I mean this is much
Sean mcvays offense, much different than than when he's ever run.
This is a I think, just a career smart changing

(31:04):
sort of decision by him, right to to basically learn
a different offense.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
It's smart, I mean smart.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
You know that add that you know that will be
impressive when you your next time you're gonna interview, it'll
be impressive that you'll be able to put that on
your resume and and build out your vision.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
So I give a credit for doing that. Yeah, yeah,
I do too.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
And we've seen that tree, right, we've seen the McVeigh tree.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Oh it's a big tree, buddy.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
He's all over the place man, right, he's.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
A very young coach. And I mean, and there's you know,
there's still two two or three coach on his staff
that are gonna get a job fairly soon too. Because
you get a job, sheiel helps to get a job.
Like he's gonna have a giant tree. And it looked
that you know. Part of the reason why is you
know that that offense, man, it's just it is it
is ready made for young quarterbacks, you know, Like it's

(31:58):
it's it's an offense that allows a lot of easy yards.
And yeah, when I made the case, when I made
the case for the Chiefs to go, look at Mike
McDaniel right and is an offensive coordinator. You know, part
of that was I just was excited about how different
that would be than what they've had. But also that offense.

(32:19):
But Daniel's offer, who everything about it, dude, there are
some free yards, buddy in that office. Yeah, and giving
that homes some free yards. Man, that offense, it's just
it just it's the way it's built. There's there's the
ability to get things rolling pretty quickly. And it's just
our quarterback for everything. Look, the m v P of

(32:40):
the NFL has been in that offense now how many years,
and like you know, all the years Rogers won, obviously
Stafford won this past season. It produces m vps. Man,
It's just it's an offense that does it all the time.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, and you know, we're going to get back to
the uh you know, I'll get we'll get back to
the game itself, and I'm going to go through uh,
you know, prop bets with you next hour. We'll take
a look at all that stuff. But I got a
question off of that offense and the line coach. It's interesting,
the best o line coach I think in football is

(33:16):
Jeff Staltlin.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
And there's no thinking about it. He's the best office
line coach. Yeah, I'm glad you said that. You're a
big nice but I mean there there are other good
offensive line coaches.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I mean, but yeah, and he's a great coach.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
And you know, Leadford or the Ravens just hired and Frayley, like,
there's some good, real good offense line coaches. But Stotlin
has done this now with like four different offenses and
and multiple head coaches, and and he's gonna have at
least two Hall of Famers. I mean, that's a pretty
good run for him.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
So I got to ask you a question about stole
out in Philadelphia, and one of the reasons why, Uh,
it's multi faceted. But one of the reasons also is
the system which now is gonna M and eight from
in Sean Manny, which all goes all the way back
to McVeigh. So we'll discuss that coming up. Back to

(34:07):
the games. We got the props coming up, all kinds
of things to have fun with. He is Jeff Schwartz.
I'm Anthony Gargano right now, right here the Fellas on
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on the iHeartRadio app. So, Jeff Statlin abruptly resigned from

(34:51):
the Eagles and he was upset. So his agent talked
about the fact that he they replaced him a to
run game coordinator. They wanted to integrate some different philosophies
last year and replaced him.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
As run game quarter. They didn't listened to him.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
He felt like he wasn't being heard, which is mind
boggling to me when you have a first time OC
was a disaster and an offensive coach that apparently can't
coach offense. And they now hire a new young OC
and Sean mannion and because of philosophy, you don't listen

(35:32):
to Stout. I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
As the young kids would say, a generational fumble the
bag here by the Eagles. Jeff Stotlin is an incredible
offensive line coach. He has been now through I believe
this is his what his third head coach, right, he
was with Chip Kelly.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
First then yep, he's been here thirteen years yep, and.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Then and then Sirianni and to revolters years what Doug
Peterson in between yea, yeah, I said Peters any I'm
try for and all those for all those years, the
Eagles have been one of the better offensive lines of
the NFL. They have proven the ability to do maybe
if things up front has been it has been their
calling card for all those years, all those coaches, I

(36:17):
mean even look even the Chip to offense that they
ran the ball well for the first two years it
was it was not, you know. And he's kept his
job right because he's that good of a coach and
a to take away his run game duties last year
because the offense was struggling a little bit with injuries
and and just not a good play caller to me
is absolute ludicrous. Now I will say this too, might

(36:38):
understand this. So the way it works major college football, really,
I think any football at that level is the offensive
coordinator is most often in charge of the passing game
and the offensive line coach in charge of the run game.
So they've now tagged this run game coordinator onto the
offensive line position because our office line coach position just

(36:59):
for more essentially, you know, but like they've done it forever, right,
so that that doesn't change depending on the team, Like
that's what it is in the NFL. So Stalin's always
done this, So will the next offensive line coach to
take him off those duties last year is disrespectful. I get,
while he's pretty upset about that, he's earned the right
to figure it out, right. Uh Now, as far as

(37:21):
the idea he can't learn this, Shanahan McVeigh, he could
figure out, like what are we doing right? Figure? Of
course you can figure out what right? Can't He can't
figure out how to run, how to teach outside zone
because zone for years in Philly, what are we talking about?

(37:41):
You can't figure out how to protect I d them
the will linebacker and that protection completely ludicrous thing. The
Philly has made up as a reason to get rid
of Stalin. Yes, the fact is, I do wonder how much.
I don't know any information on this, but like, was
Sirianni a little bit threatened by the power that Stalin had?

(38:05):
And does Sewn Manyon not want a guy like that
in the building who sort of might have some power
over him as a veteran coach, and Shawn Manyon is
his third year as a coach. She's man, I think
I would want Jeff Stallin.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yes, yes, And by the way, Sirianni's not that guy. Correct,
Like he's already shown you he's not that guy. In fact,
I wouldn't be surprised if after next season, Syrian he's out,
Manyumi is in in some sort of stays. Maybe there's
a defensive head coach and something else, but for sure, uh,

(38:41):
Syrianny's on a hot seat.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah, I think it's just a mistake. And then also
if it cost you Lane Johnson, it's gonna it's also
not great. I'm surprised Lane didn't retire after last season,
to be to be honest, so I'm him announcing that
are not announcing the rumors that he might be gone
are not surprising to me this year as well. But
you know, if Lady Johnson retires because Stoutlan's Stout's gone,

(39:04):
I mean, that feels like another mistake with Eagles.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
So here's what I think's gonna happen. I think they talk,
they talk Lane into one more year, make it worth
his while, and they're going to take a take a shot.
Go hey, listen, let's try to win one more year here,
Let's see what we could do. Let's see if we
could turn this thing around.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
With the first time play call Well.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
That's the you know again, that's the that's the thought process.
Because you remember Dank Dana talk Fangio out of retirement.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I just think it feels like a first time play caller.
It was kelling More first time play caller when you
guys when he signed with you guys too.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
No, no, he called plays in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, you're right, man. It's a it's a tough ask
for first time play caller to win a Super Bowl,
to beat.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
The other well, I mean like at least catch you
back into contention.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
And because seron doesn't help at all, that's part of
it too. At exactly, coaches, not the head coach is
not helping with this at all, So it feels like
a pretty tough task. I mean, but again, I was
surprised Lane did not retire after last season. So I
figured that he would know right off at the sunset
when the super he was making thirty million dollars a year.
But I thought he ran off for the sunset, and

(40:20):
he did, so I just I think he goes mismanaged
the Stalin thing. I would not have let Stalin leave
the building. But you know, maybe I'm biased to best
off of like coach in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yeah, I don't know how you can be, you know,
biased to that. Like you know, it just goes into
the show and it's part of the whole. We've seen
ten openings this year. It's been wild. But the idea
of the veteran coach, I think you need to if
you have one, and you need to cherish those guys
and lean into them. Fellas, perhaps coming up next Fox

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Speaker 2 (41:06):
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top of your screen. All right, Yeah, we getting ready
for tomorrow. Let's try to look at game scripts. How's

(41:31):
this game gonna go? How does it play out? One
of the issues I think for both both offenses is
you're not gonna you're gonna have trouble running the football.
And let's look at it. I mean, the Patriots defense
pretty stout against the run. I mean through the first
eight games they didn't allow fifty yard rusher. Now it

(41:53):
opened up a little bit, but there's no sharbon A again.
Halani is in for sharbon Ay and as great as
terrific as Walker is both catching the ball out of
the backfield, which I figured have to leave more into.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
It's hard.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
It's gonna be hard to establish a run game against
that defense.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Absolutely, And Seattle doesn't run the ball great. They've been better,
as you know of late, right, and you know we've
seen you know, last week, the first half of that game. Uh,
they were very good on the ground and it made
a difference, I guess two weeks ago. Now it's not
their strong suit, right, they've gotten better tough's they're young,

(42:33):
by the way, they're young in offensive line in left
guarden center, So it makes sense that it might take
a little bit of time to get into a groove there.
But what worries me is is that Kenneth Walker. You know,
he's not a bell cow type guy, right, he averages
about you know when Charbonay is out. He's like nineteen
carries a game. You know, he's not a twenty five,
twenty seven carry a guy, a night type of type

(42:54):
of guy. So he will have to up his production
I think for them to establish a real or again,
their quarterback is not part of the run yeah, which
just fine. Not everycuod has to be part of the
run game. But he's just not part of the run games.
It's just not what they do, and so they have
to find something else. And then is that Shahi getting
the ball right out of the backfield. Is that a
screen game that sort of acts as a little bit

(43:15):
of a of a run game. Is it a you know,
is it? Is it is it a bubble screen? Like?

Speaker 6 (43:19):
What?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
What's is it? Quick?

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Like?

Speaker 3 (43:21):
How what are you doing to sort of create some
more of a run game if you're not able to
do so traditionally? And that's what I I'm curious what
Seattle does uh to to sort of allow that to
be part of their game plan.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Yeah, so you know I'm thinking, And really it works
the same on the other side too, because Seattle is
tough against the run.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah, but the difference, I mean for me that one
of the difference is is that Sales offensive line is
just much better than New England's and are and and
that is a concern. Now Will Campbell the pictures left tackle.
You know, he has played well at times this year.
He just needs to play better, right he came back
from injuries. Hasn't been quite as good since he came
back from injury. And if he plays better, then it

(44:08):
sort of changes what the Patriots I think he'd be offensively.
And they've gone away from Henderson a little bit as
a running back. I think in this game they need
his explosive play capabilities a little more than maybe other games.
I do wonder if Henderson gets a little more carries.
He's a different runner than Stevenson. Right, He's not going
to give you the I think the down and down

(44:30):
out ability between the tackles to create to create yards.
But we've seen this season, if you give him a
little bit of crease and you can get him a
straight line, he's gone, right. And so I do wonder
if they give a few opportunities to get the ball
on the edge, you know, maybe some outside zones, maybe
some other stuff, just to sort of get him on
the move a little bit and hope to pierce the
Seattle defense with a little bit of that speed.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, it's it's that That's a that's smart plan.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
I think ultimately, like you said, you're gonna wind up
having both teams are gonna have to get the ball
to their running back. Stevenson's good out of the backfield
and catching them catching the football. You're gonna have to
You're gonna have to do that sort of thing just
to just to give you something out of it.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Absolutely, And so I'm you know, I think what the
reason why I think it's low scoring, especially early, is
I think both offenses are gonna try to figure out
what's best for them in this game. I I do
think that Seattle's oh Secret Kobi Act will have a
better plan early. They've scored more often the season, they've

(45:39):
been better at it, you know more more recently, New
England has just struggled again. They struggled the postseason, just
just just have And so that to me, all those
reasons why I think it's it's probably a pretty low
scoring game early on, and you know they're gonna there
will be a way, you know, someone's gotta find sort
of a sneak, you know, kind of a way to

(46:00):
get to get to get by. And you know that
leads me to like, okay, we are we going with
you know, trick plays? Is that going to be a
part of this game. Yeah, they're gonna be not not
not even trick plays, you know, is especially trick plays
someone else, I have a buddy of mine likes, uh
over two and a half players to attempt to pass

(46:23):
in this game, which makes so interesting. I did last year.
I took under two and a half players to attempt
to pass. Okay, it was I was. It was a bit.
It was like minus two hundred, all right, and can
you pick an attempted to pass a fourth and seven
on the final drive of the game and I lost
my bet and I was not very happy.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Oh god, no, yeah, horrible.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
You were last year for four fourth.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I remember last year it was one of our batter
years that we vote.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
You know again, we're going fourth. We've only won two
of them, so yeah, fourth and seven. Yeah. Oh that's brutal. Yeah,
it's brutal.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Like who thinks like who thinks the backup is going
to come in? Oh god, that's a tough way to lose, man,
it really is. It should be written that does a
non quarterback throw a pass?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
I think you can. I mean, dude, there's two thousands
of these props. I'm sure you can find that somewhere.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
But that's the way it should be written, you know,
to be honest with you, and you're gonna do it fairly.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
It's funny how all this information works. I just saw
a tweet from someone who runs and a book that
allows wagering on the anthem, and people gets hit the
other yesterday on the anthem because it dropped a lot.
You can find stuff to bet on then if you
want to. That's crazy. That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
A little bit later on the next segment, I know
you want to tell about Calshi and.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
You're honest. Yeah, now if you want to it's here. Okay,
these look, there are plenty of ways to wager on
these games, right. I was just in a state, right
in a state in California, and it doesn't have legal
sports wagering, like you. There's prediction markets, there's offshores obviously, right,
there's legal ways to wager in games. And these prediction

(48:26):
markets are becoming a big factor in how people are
able to get money down these games. And you can
call it prediction markets, it's it's sports wagering. It is
what it is. But you're technically wagering against someone else,
right because you're buying contracts. And uh, you know, the
NFL this week did not allow any prediction markets to
have people at radio row that are not allowing them

(48:48):
to sponsor anything during the Super Bowl, Right, there's no
ads being allowed. Oh yeah, their NFL is like totally
out on it. And you know, one of the ways
you can get down on a picture market. You can't
do this traditionally. You bet on on outcomes in real life, right,
and one of them is is trade debt, is trades,
is there's political things you could bet on.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
There's so much insider trading with that stuff, correct that
when you see that stuff effect the scary thing. Someone
put a lot of money on a war.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Uh yeah. So basically this before before the US went
to Venezuela, someone put like four hundred grand on it,
and you know, yeah, I mean that's yeah right, So
you know Yannis was, you know, for the Bucks obviously
for weeks was rumored to want to get out of

(49:44):
Milwaukee in the trade deadline which is just passed last week,
and and you can wager on it. I put some
money on a team ended up being I think twenty
three million dollars was wager on Calshi. One of the
prediction markets for Yannis to be traded to different teams, right,
twenty three million. Yeah. One of the market. You know,

(50:04):
the market was basically who will be his next thing?
Now the wager's still up, Like I bet on the Calves.
The buddy of mine was like just a tiny bit
of money. I think I was ended up being thirty
dollars on the Calves. So I'm not part of that
twenty three million. I'm a little bit. I know, only
thirty bucks out to my account on the Calves. Someone
told me the Calves we interested, it got like seven
percent it is, what is but twenty three million I
believe I saw was wagered on You're not wagered swap

(50:27):
contracts essentially right on Calshie. And again the rumors of
him being traded came from his side, right He told people,
his people told people, I want to be traded, And
in fact it ended up seeming like he actually, in
the end did not want to be traded. Right now,
maybe there wasn't the right package for him and whatnot,
But in the end he wasn't traded. It wasn't even
like a close to being traded at all. And it

(50:48):
comes out that now he is a partner in Calshi. Now,
on the surface, it's fine, it's a partnership, right, like
you know, the guys are partnering with with sportsbooks all
the time. The problem, of course, is that it's you know,
it's a pretty bad look to essentially manipulate a market
like he did and then announced he's an investor in

(51:10):
the market. Yeah, this world is so shady, Like do
I think it's trading happening there? Probably not. Do I
think he's nefarious, Like he's purposely maniplating in the market. No,
I don't think he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
I don't believe it. I believe anything. There's nothing off
out of bounds.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
But I think that it's just a very very bad
look he saw the market yesterday. I mean it's to
have the market is disconnected from reality sometimes, which is crazy.
But nonetheless, I I I think it's a bad look
for a professional athlete to put out basically rumors of

(51:49):
him being traded, which he did and maybe he wanted
to and just didn't work out. People then buy into
a market of him being traded. He decides he doesn't
want to be traded, and then announced he's now an
investor in the market that made money off his rumors
that he put out. It's not great. It's not great again.
I don't think he's fixing the market. I don't think.

(52:11):
I don't think anything's inherently wrong with him being an
investor in the market in Calshi, right in that company.
I just think it's a really bad look for basketball.
You know, if if you know niam An NFL, Jalen Hurts,
you're a guy Jalen Hurts right, if he said for

(52:33):
months I want to be traded there was a market
put up for him to be traded, and then the
end he is that I don't want to be traded,
and now I'm investing in this company. I don't think
the NFL would allow it. I think they not going
to happen. And again, there are NBA players who are sponsored,
who have deals with FanDuel and DraftKings, and those are again,
but they're not they're not essentially making the market, right

(52:56):
like Lebron's not making the market for his props. He's
you know, It's just I said, it's a really bad
look for Giannis and for the NBA for this to
happen right after he decided not they didn't want to
be traded, and people wagered on it.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Yes, you're you're right, like you know, I mean, his
band looks everywhere.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
I mean, you say it, you see. I mean how
about the class A stuff that came out of that.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Yeah, that's a whole yeah. Yeah. So for those who
missed the story, originally, the Cleveland Cleveland Guardians had two
pitchers that had been basically suspended and put on leave
because they were accused of intentionally throwing pitches that were balls.

(53:45):
Because I actually didn't know there was a market you
could bet on. You could bet on whether the next
pitch is a ball strike. And these two pitchers on
the Guardians were intentionally throwing a ball instead of a
strike on the first pitch of the third inning, right
like whenever it was And it was so obvious when
you can go back and watch the video they were
doing this right, and it comes out it was like

(54:07):
what like like insane number of pitches. How many pitches
did he throw? That were that he that he that
he spiked and for what for what?

Speaker 6 (54:18):
For what?

Speaker 4 (54:19):
And again, you know what's crazy about that stuff too,
is there's just so much you can get down on
a bet correct about a pitch, right, So everybody's all
they're all tied, all these sports books are tied together, right,
so correct.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
If you're gonna if you're gonna be like, all right.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
So pitch one and pitch three when I come into game,
er gonna be balls. So okay, Well, there's a limit.
It's not like you could throw ten thousand dollars on it,
like there's gonna be red flags everywhere if there is
an inordinate amount of money that will go on a pitch,
because if there was normally flights were up, so I

(54:58):
got caught, which is the dumbest thing of the work.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Well, so I I that that is just again we
don't know their financial situation. Maybe they were this was
tied in with a bookie, or they owed money somewhere
and they need to make it up. I mean, certainly
those are things are possible right in the class A situation.
But again, the honest, I don't think the young I
don't think Janns investing in this company is in that

(55:22):
A loan is wrong. You're allowed to invest in whatever
you want. And I don't think he's using how she
to wager on himself or wager against himself. I don't
think again, it's not wagering per se. I don't think
he's doing any of those things. Thefariously, I just think
that the look of him announcing this after essentially not
being traded when he said he wanted to be traded,
it's just a bad look. It's a it's a miss

(55:43):
by his team to do this, and I think, I
just you know, it's not good.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah, well, yes, I'll pueague at his own issues.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
You see that.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
No, what was we doing other one that about getting
involved in betting, and apparently he racked up more than
two or eighty thousand dollars in losses while wagering on tennis, football,
and basketball through a third party was.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
The word when he's playing or now, yeah, when he
was playing those an't legal sports, the old school fashion
bookie through the bookie. Yeah, yeah, that's how I get
you right as you start having these losses and they
asked you to throw games, right, that's how it happens.
I mean, that's all the models to tell you that, right, Like,
we just kind of get you, you know, we get
you to a certain point where you start losing enough

(56:35):
money and all of a sudden we ask you to
manipulate the outcome of games. Uh not good? Not good? Yeah,
no good.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
All right, let's get back to football bag because because
I'm fascinating, so we both we covered the both offenses
running the football and how it's going to be ture
for both offenses.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Now, the one area where Seattle is going to.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Have a huge advantage is gonna be pushing the ball
down the field.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Obviously because of Smith and Jigba.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
The Patriots receivers are sneaky, but the Seahawks defense is
just too good in the back end.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
How look, how is new Eland gonna get move all
down the field in this game? I have I have
no idea. They don't have any.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
So I think you're gonna go to a lot to Henry, right,
you go to your tight end, you go to Stevenson.
So you're gonna try to dink and dunk kind of
down the field, and then you're gonna take a shot
to uh Booty and you'll take a couple of shots there.
You'll take a shot to mccollins just to try to

(57:44):
kind of open things up to Uh.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I think that's your only way.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
And then Hope and it's digs underneath and try to
get him free. I mean that's kind of where you're
gonna have to live.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Yeah, over receptions as a as a worth looking at,
I think it just has to. He just has to
the way it also to you, It's so funny, man.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
You get to this time of year and obviously everyone has,
you know, their favorite wagers, and they just say things
right like I like Hunter Henry because Seattle allows a
lot of catchers to tight ends and without giving the
reason why that is, and I frustrate the defense. It's
just it's just people go into their AI bots or
AI tools and just be like.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Give me the best bet of this game.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Yes, the reason why Seattle allows a lot of catches
to tight end is because they are a zone coverage team, right,
and in zone coverage you can find weaknesses sort of
over the ball to you know, to the to the
numbers hashes sort of in that area, right, that's where
the tight ends live, right, And the you know, a

(58:49):
team like Seattle will allow a seven yard carry, a
seven eight yard catch to a tight end.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Well, the offense is built that, I mean the defense
is built that way too.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Of that it's instead of allowing a deep completion. And
I just I can't stand when people talk about these things.
It just sort of spit out the numbers out giving
an actual reason. That's the reason why.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
The reason why is that it's the same reason because
they play zone that you know, people are looking at
Drake May's under rushing yard.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Well, that's my favorite bet of the That's my favorite
wager of the game because.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
You just can't get loose, like when you're playing man
the quarterback gets loose, correct.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
And well, that's funny. Is the number the number two bet?
Most bet prop of this game is directly over rushing
like public over really wow, people are hammering the over
like look the public it went from Dude, it was
twenty nine and a half, it's thirty seven and a half.
Now are you serious?

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Wow, I haven't wager on it yet. I made this point.
I put it.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Why wow, I've given it while.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I've given this out at thirty eight and a half,
and I'm waiting to see I'm waiting to see where
it nets out at and actually is coming down now
now it's about so now it's about the thirty six
and a half, thirty seven. It's kind of some people
want to hit it right now. So I think this
number is way too high first of all, and people
are going to continue to look at it and it

(01:00:10):
decided to I think he's just going under it. I
thirty and a half was a high watermark so far.
I gave it out of my podcast thirty eight and
a half. I think that's what ends up. You know,
I think he was under Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
I mean again, he's not going to get free like
you if you watch him, you know he has gotten free.
But it's been against defenses that play man and that's
where you can and he's a good athlete and he
gets free and next thing you know, you're able to
run them, and you know he'll break loose for sixteen
and or twelve and that's what that's how you get

(01:00:46):
to the over.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
But that's not going to happen against Seattle. So I'm
with you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
That's that's I didn't realize that number was as high
as it is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
I mean, Kenneth Walker, Kenneth Walker opened eighty four and
a half for rushing and it's now at seventy two.
Holy moly, what it is?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Four?

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Oh man, that's crazy. I haven't looked I have not,
to be fair, I've not looked at these in a
few days. Let me see what it's at now, rushing
number seventy and a half. I see seventy and a
half out there. I got seventy nine. I got under
seventy nine and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
A half or great play many Yeah, I was telling
the brain. I'm like I would be on the unders
every across the board I have I have.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
I have the way over as I have right now,
I have two. I have the Hunter Henry over three
and a half perceptions. I think I'm gonna take Shaheed
over rushing and receiving. You know, the Patriots play Christians
Alas a lot in the boundary in man coverage. Lock
them in man coverage, I think, and he's susceptible to
the game. Beat deep a couple. I think Shaheed's the

(01:01:50):
guy that that is the sort of exposive play guy
for Seattle. A jay I said, people look at Cooper,
Cup and Barner, and man, I think it's Shaheed. So
those are two I like other that I like under
under under under under under, Give me all the unders.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yeah, I'm with you. All right, we gonna take quick too.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
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let me hit you with a couple of props. You
know what I like to look at is the cross

(01:03:55):
sports props.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Yeah. I'm not good at those, but they're funny. I
look at them to their fun market.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Yeah it's just sad. I don't know, it's just it's
just funny.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
It's well, let me hit you with a little novelty
props first, all right, do you play the Head's Tail
coin Dolls?

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
I want to play tails if I did.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
All right, how about the gatorade color?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
No, but I have a good theory on it. By
the way, what is it? Okay? I mean it's not
a theory. It's correct. Okay, you know, I know, I
know it's correct. Okay. So here's the deal. If if
you have a team, if you if you think a
team with a white jersey is gonna win the game,
they're not gonna have orange gatorade or red gatorade. They're
gonna have yellow, purple. That's probably it, right, or clear,

(01:04:46):
because if you wear a white jersey, you don't want
this jersey, you don't want it stained by the red
or orange gatorade. So that's just a it's a genius.
They don't give teams that have white uniform. It was
very rarely drink red or orange gatorade on the sidelines
in the end season two, Like, they don't don't give

(01:05:06):
it to them. So a lot of times, it's the purple,
it's the it's the clear, it's the yellow. Right. It's
also sometimes true that they just match up the whole
uniform with the gatorade too, like the Eagles, that they
have yellow and have had yellow both times. They went
Super Bowl for years, Like Tom Brady always liked purple

(01:05:29):
now that they can sunted with the Patriots always wearing
white jerseys too, by the way, so that's like the
pages were purple a bunch of times those So that's
sort of the vibe, right, So if you like the Seahawks,
think of darker colored potentially, if you like the Patriots
are all white, they're not gonna have red, not gonna

(01:05:50):
have orange, maybe not even yellow. They're gonna go with
purple and clear as your options.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Well, that's great gatorade, notch. Yeah, that's insider trading.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Now. I'd rather just better the Patriots to win the
game than I would better getter in color. So that's
just my philosophy on that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Jersey number of the fur of the first touchdown score
over ten and a half a big favorite minus one
sixty versus under ten and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
So that would that would be like you know, Kenneth
Walker scored right like number nine. Essentially, Stefan Diggs would
be under under as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Correct, Yeah, Cooper Cup is under is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Under as well. Yeah, I don't. I don't if you
think I think we think Sala's going to score first
I think we believe that I do at least, which
leads me to believe that. You know, you have Kenneth
Walker or Cooper Cupp or JSN who's number eleven? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Or Barner who's over Barner? JSN Shaheed over Walker?

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Uh? What the juice on this?

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Overs minus one sixty?

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
I just I mean, I'd rather just just take the
under and with the I'm not laying minus one sixty
on a prop like that sports supposed to get you.
Man with these, with the juice of these on these props, man,
it's insane. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Uh, here's your total? Players to throw a pass over
two and a half? Is plus one sixty?

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Was the today? This is another hour? This man, I
got crushed by this way here last year. I think
it's still I think I think it's it's still gonna
be just two.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Well the Seahawks attempt to pass from the one inside
from the one yard line or closer.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Inside the one or closer yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Well from on or inside the one? I think no? Okay,
so yes?

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Is plus five point fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Do you want to know one of these props that
sharp guys love? Can I tell you one of them? Yeah?
Over longest yardage for first field goal thirty seven and
a half. Oh, that's a good one. So I have
I have I tal on that one. So we read

(01:08:23):
you the exact wager. We find it for you here
over thirty seven and a half distance of first successful
field goal.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
I love it because the way they go now is
if you're if you're closer, they're gonna, they're gonna you
tend to go for it. And I think this is
a game where there's gonna be a plenty of field goal.
I think it's a kickers game. I think there's gonna
be a lot of field goals in his game. And
I love that play. I actually like the longest field

(01:08:56):
goal over fifteen and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
It's a big number, though, a big number. But I
think you'll get attempts. Yeah, I think you're I don't
think you're wrong. I think you're gonna. I think you're
gonna get it. You're gonna get some attempts. Yes, all right,
here's some more stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
Any well, the quarterback catch your pass plus eleven hundred,
Now I don't think so. The score Gomi plus twenty
five hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
I'm too dumb to figure out score Gomy for this one.
I'd probably say pass for.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
People listening that don't know the score, GOMI is basically
a score that's never happened before.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Any non quarterback, any non quarterback to throw a pass
plus fourteen hundred a touchdown?

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Pass?

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
No, Actually, I think if you think, if you think
there's gonna be a pass thrown by a non quarterback,
do not bet the over two and a half players
to attempt pass. Bet this one instead. Yeah. Yeah, dude,
the coin tosses. You still have to lay juice on
the coin toss you to a three cents minus one
of three. That's crazy to me about a fifty pure

(01:10:12):
fifty to fifty outcome, Well, it would be a kickoff
return for a touchdown. It's only twenty two hundred. See,
I think I see this? Would it get you? My
buddy Sandy p put out a tweet yesterday about how
these books make it difficult for under dog better so
that number should be much higher than that. There's only
been one. It's a history. Yeah, and it's only twenty

(01:10:32):
two to one. It's crazy. Well, no too, because Percy
Harvard did Harvard score a punter kickoff return too. It
was a punt, but there's a punk kickoff return for
the Seattle. I thought it was a punt, but I
could be. I mean, so we know Hester Hester did
right for the Banks. That's one Harvard might have been
a punt return. You might be right. Like an offensive lineman.

(01:10:52):
A score to TV is twenty two to one, that
should be fifty to one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
Into an offensive lineman to score its touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Insane, dude, where are the cross sport part? Where the
cross sport one's at all?

Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
I don't seem I don't see him on here?

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Hold on, let me look, hold on, it's down there now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Oh no, here's rare, here's rare, NBA. What will be
greater Drake May's rushing yards or Anthey Edwards points versus Clippers.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
I love the point, I love ant Man, I love
the ant Man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
I think that's great value. Do great value there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
I'm trying to think of anyone any like, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Bridge It and Boppy one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Let me see here. Uh yeah, so yeah, they have
they have soccer ones, they have golf ones. It's man
Drake Ma and sarm Donald to each record fifteen plus
passing out to each quarters plus one. Oh five. I
bet that's tough to do to every quarter. Yeah, super Bowl,

(01:12:11):
Yeah you better been to me. These are these are
sucker bets if you let the wager on them. I'm
not gonna tell you to spend your money, just do
it responsibly. I just not better on these. Here you
go MVP anything there. Yeah. So I played JSN at

(01:12:31):
six at six and a half to one, and also
I played Shaheit at fifty to one earlier this week
on a tip for my buddy. The idea was Shahiita
get complete long shot is that if we think it's
gonna be a defensive game, Shahet doesn't have a small
teams score that that could put him in the in

(01:12:51):
the in the MVP watch.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Yeah, how about I'll give you one. It's a complete
long shot, but I think there's a path to it.
And this is Milton Williams at plus twenty thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
If if Sweat didn't get it last year, I mean,
I mean, I mean, was a Sweat last year who
had a great game? Yes, I mean von Miller went
MVP in a defensive game with with a strip sack,
with two strip sacks, right, I think it was Yeah,
in a touchdown he scored a touchdown?

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Did he Yeah, one of them. I'm not sure. I
don't know if he scor touchdown, but I just got
a lot of votes. It was close last year. I'll
tell you it was very, very close.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
I took sweat, like in the middle of the game
for like fifty to one, some insane number.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, it was close. You probably should have won.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
I can't advise you to take a defensive player. I mean,
von Miller is a Hall of Famer like that. That
made a little more sense. I can't. I can't, and
I would. I mean, you could do whatever you want.
I just I couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
Well again, it's just because of the number, right, the
numbers crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, it's right.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
It's a it's a pizza bet, right, so you know
five bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Pays one thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Yeahs go bet.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
And the year's the pathway because he's going to get
lined up, I think over the right card, yeap, and yeah,
and he's he's had a really good postseason. And if
it's a defensive game and he gets to Donald and
causes a couple of sacks, maybe a fumble, you know,

(01:14:46):
I think there's a pathway there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
I mean, it's not likely, but one sack is plus
one ninety five. I actually kind of liked that one. Yeah,
I like that a lot. Yeah, it's two sacks. It's
built two sacks almost ten to one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
I think that's where the pizza bet right there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
So here's the deal. Last year I made too many wagers.
Too many wagers, all right, hold the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Thought, all right, and then it hit me on the
other side.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
All right, because this is good advice, We've got to
go over at menu too, like, because your food's men.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
We have figured that out.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
We have a menu. We've got a menu. Rocking buddy,
Oh good, I'm dying here. Uh, we'll discuss that next.
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(01:16:06):
You're a fabulous chef. Is on the menu for Jeff
Schwartz family.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Okay, so last week my wife goes, Hey, I want
oysters and crab legs to be part of the menu.
So I said, okay, and she goes and she goes,
how about we build a pit outside for the oysters.

(01:16:33):
I'll get center blocks and we'll get like a great
And I was like, how about No, I live in
the middle of the city and I'm not building a
barbecue in my backyard. On then where how about no,
I have two grills, like I can use either of
the two grills to do this. So we have the whit.
We have one bushel of oysters. It's quannestly, it's it's stupid.

(01:16:55):
I don't know why we have oysters, but we have them.
And instead of ordering king crab legs, you ordered snow
crab legs. So we have the wrong crab and the
back of oysters. I'm also going to make some actual meat.
So that's a real quick the oyster thing. It's dumb,
I don't it's so you're basically doing a raw bar. No,

(01:17:18):
I'm gonna I'm gonna grow the oysters with probably like
a garlic butter, so I'll put them on the grill.
But I don't know how to I don't know how
to shock oysters. There's not enough to make it worth it.
We have just one sort of bushel of them, one,
you know, Yeah, I don't know, man, And then I'll
find we'll have dips. We're gonna do with the snow
the snow crabs just I guess just serve them and

(01:17:40):
people can eat them. Yeah, I'd rather have the king
crab legs would have been better, but they ordered the
wrong thing, so we don't have king krab legs. Uh,
we have little snow crab legs. And uh, I'll make
some sort of meat, and I've figured that part out.
My daughter is allergic to shellfish. You know, I gotta

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make something else for everyone else. So I thought about
making like Slider's pretty easy thing to make.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Right, Yeah, everyone loves the slider.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
The other day I made cheeseburger egg rolls that were
to dive. Wow, that's you know, you know, easy than
it is. You just you just make basically you just
you know, ground beef, cheese, onions, whatever you want to
do you fry it? And so I'll probably do that.

(01:18:28):
Maybe I'll make some some sliders. I mean, we got
all day to figure it out. Why he make some
cheese steaks. I bet you, I bet you could make
a mean cheese steak. Probably. I don't know why I couldn't.
It's not it's not a terribly difficult hard thing to make.
But there's a there's the key. The key is the bread.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Yeah, we're not gonna have I couldn't. It's too late
to make bread. I couldn't make bread if I just
don't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
You'd have to go get a like, uh you don't
have the good bread down there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
You probably have to get like a French bag act
to do the cheese steak.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Yeah, so that will probably pass on that, but yeah,
that's my man. What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
So my Uh So we're gonna go over my buddy's house,
and I think we're gonna bring Italian wedding soup. My
wife does a great Italian wedding soup.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Okay, so we'll bring she'll make that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
And then my buddy's wife, Debbie, she makes a great stromboli. Okay,
So the like a homemade pepper pepperoni bread which is strim, yeah,
which is really good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
I do it too, but I'm not I'm not super bawl.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
I'm not cooking anything.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
So I'll they're gonna handle all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
And she'll make cheese steaks too, So the cheese steaks
stromboli and then uh we'll do the wedding soup.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Nice. Yeah, I gotta figure out, well, a ton of
my wife his favorite food is like dip, so we'll
have a ton of light dips like there's you also
make this dip with like ground beef, velveda, onions, rotel
like it's it's pretty good. You know. We have a
loo can make a buffo chicken dip potentially. I mean
there's there's plenty of ways to make dips. It's a
matter of finding. Like the meat course, I gotta make

(01:20:17):
some meat. Yeah, you need to meet. I'm not the
biggest dips dip guy. I'm not either, but yeah I
like the meat. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I could see
you doing the ribs. That would be a nice item.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
All right, we uh big al were coming up next
to brain everything else Fellas on.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Fox listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
That's a Super Bowl Saturday, getnot wait tomorrow, the Great
American Holiday Super Bowl. Jeff Schwartze and the gun on
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Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
And the game.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
Jeff like Seattle, we both like a low scoring game.
I think New England has a shot. I think it's
a very tight, low scoring game, not a lot of yards,
probably not going to be exciting at least from the
point standpoint in the yard at standpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
But if you like defense, which I do, I think
you can enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
There's a difference between, by the way, a defensive game
that's well played and then just an ugly offensive game. Right,
those are two different things. Yes, and this feels like
a game where the defense is that you know, might dominate,
but it's not gonna be an ugly off as the

(01:22:07):
game that makes sense. Like, do you know I think
it's not gonna be those We're like, oh geez, both
this quarterbacks absolutely stink today. It'll be like the defense
are playing well. I think that's I have either underscore.
I think you have an underscore. It does feel like
a much lower scoring game. It would surprise me if
it was an over game, it really would.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Yeah, I don't see the pathway there because and it's funny,
this is where you and I really agree, because I
don't see a pathway to the over because I don't
see New England pointing up a ton of points.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
You know, I can think they win. I think they
have a chance to win. But if they win, it's
got to be you know, twenty to thirteen and Donald
gets picked off twice, and you know there's a key
fumble and the front, you know, Rabel's front is rigging
had Let me let's play a.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Little game, little Super Bowl game.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Okay, So I'm going to read you the Super Bowls
and I want you to tell me what you remember
from that game. Okay, all right, what stands out? So
we'll start with last year. Of course, the Eagles all
over the Chiefs forty to twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Just the domination of the trenches by the Eagles. Yeah,
both sides of the ball. People talk so much about
the Eagles defensive line, their offensive, the Chiefs didn't touch
it on. It hurts the whole game like there was.
It was domination of both sides the ball. Unbelievable, it was.

(01:23:49):
I still think the defense won that game for him.
They did, but yeah, but I'm saying that the Chiefs
they played so bad on offense that no one will
recognized about the passwatch was right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Plus, remember last year was the year of the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
Run game, right, it was the home run hitting sa
Kwon run game.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
I remember Spags.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
We brought him up earlier because he was listening to
the show Coach Steve's Pangolo. You know, he spent a
lot of time trying to stop Barkley and the Eagles
run game, and he did it actually fairly a good
job against it. But they had no field position. They
couldn't get any first downs, and so the field position
was all Eagles. And then you had the big Cooper
Dejen the dagger with the pick six.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
How about Chiefs Niners twenty five twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
I mean, I just remember you know the the overtime.
I mean the Niners took the ball first, right, yeah,
recall and kicked the field goal and the Chiefs just
went to call me down. The fields got touchdown and
McCole harmon daven know they won the game.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
Yeah, Chiefs in the first of the back to back
Chiefs thirty eight Eagles thirty five, and a thriller that
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Actually a holding on Bradbury. I mean, I don't know
why I did. Just don't understand why this is such
a It was a holding, like that's just is what
it is, and just a really really good offensive game.
You know, Mahomes getting through the ankle injury in that game.
That was the first game I think we saw a
Jalen Hurts in a big game like that be in
charge of an of the offense in a really productive way.
I mean, for a lot of time it was talked

(01:25:28):
about that he was sort of a you know, a
one B to the offense, a two option, right, it
was always sort of the offensive line of run. Game
that was sort of a even a loss. It was
like the first time we saw him really, yeah, come come.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
Probably his best game he ever played is an Eagle. Yes, yeah,
he was awesome in that game. Mahomes was crazy. Eagles
had a big lead and Mahomes does it with his
legs in the second and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Mahomes is always faster than the guy chasing him. That's
not like it's crazy. He's not gonna win any forty contests,
not gonna eat, but every time he has got to
run the ball, he's faster than the guy chasing him. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
Yeah, twenty twenty two, so Fie Rams home team beat
the Bengals and Joe Cool twenty three twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
I mean, just Aaron Donald's this is incredible, h you know,
darn And then also you know, I remember just how
well Dell played early in that game. Remember how he
was probably his way to MVP like he was playing incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Tampa thirty one Kids City nine. If you remember how
the no tackles.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
The past, the Chief's been a four off, it's alignment
in that game. Yeah, so yeah, it was not great.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
Kansas City the first it what begins the dynasty beating
San Francisco thirty one to twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
I remember a couple of things. One is how well
the Chiefs right tackle played. He played really well in
that game. And uh Mitchell Schwartz, by the way, played
really well that Ah, yeah, I remember how well he played. Yeah,
he played. I think I think PFF had him down
for one hundred and forty four pass blocking snaps in
that postseason. He had one pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Wow, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
He played really well. I think we think we all
remember the you know the play right, the three jet
chen wasp and you know, Mahomes bought time on that play.
He backed up purposely to buy some of time held
made the play, and the Niners just you know, you
go back to that game, like, and this is the thing
about the Niners and Chiefs, and both those games there
were opportunities for the Niners and it just didn't make them.

(01:27:40):
Jimmy g had guys open on third down. He threw
the wrong guy one time. You know, go back to
brock Purty there was guys open and the right guard
missed the block, right, Like, Yes, they've had opportunities in
these games, and the Chiefs have just made better plays.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Before that was maybe the worst Super Bowl in Super
Bowl history. Patriots thirteen rams three from Mercedes.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Benz I had five hours of postgame radio after this game.
That's all I remember the most. Oh my god, it'd
be five hours. Yeah, we're out of war. For whom
ESPN Radio? Oh wow, I don't know how you did
that one man. That's a rough one.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
Thirteen to three before that was one that I'll never forget.
This was Dateline Minnesota, Eagles forty one, Patriots thirty three,
the Eagles first Super Bowl ever. We all wondered if
they would ever win, and they won that day. Nick

(01:28:48):
Foles out the out, dueling the goat, and we had
an amazing time. It was like a one of those
moments I'll never forget.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
I think I remember most, you know, just it's so funny.
Nick Foles. He is he There's almost no explanation for
the way he played that game and answer Jason game,
because those are those games. And then I think the
next thre you through, like one game or four hundred yards,
there's just there's no explaining it. Like the outlier performance

(01:29:19):
he had in that game is one of the best
in sports history. In that moment, there's no.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Night on the Philly Special, and it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Was I saw Jason Kelsey, not that I don't think
that thirty third say like they didn't even it wasn't
even up for the week, and they just they just
ran it because it was like when you practice to
play that many times you can just put it in
and it feels odd to say, but that that can work.
And Jason's like, I'm not sure head up that week.
I'm sure they did. I don't think they did.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
But you know what's interesting is that Doug, Doug didn't
really have it. Doug was trying to figure out what
the run and Nick falls correct, he's the one saying
bad about Philly Philly and Doug way, yeah, hey, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
So here's the thing about some of those trick plays
is there's a section on the on the play sheet
like titled specials essentia called specials, right, and a lot
of times those are up. They're on the playsheet all year,
even if they're not practicing a given a week, because
you don't have a ton of them, believe it or not,

(01:30:27):
I thank people just like you just don't and so
they just stay on the play sheet even though you
might not ever call them. So if you put in
Philly Special week one, you practice at week one, week two, three, four,
and you sort of forget about it. It just sort
of lives on the play sheet, if that makes sense.
Like even though it's not gonna be realistically going to
be up in that given a week. And so, like

(01:30:49):
Jason said the clip I listened to him, I don't
think it was on the third or for thirty. They
just sad it in the podcast like He's like, yeah
it was up, Like it wasn't up per se, but
like we knew what to do, practiced a bunch. It
just was it maybe up quote uquote up that week.
So I loved it, man, I mean, what what a
what a ballsy call, man, unbelievable call, perfectly executed obviously,

(01:31:10):
just really really well done.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Yeah, it was the year of the Blue Snow. It
was meant to be. It was the all those all
those losses.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
Uh you know, we people were being bringing ashes to
the parade of their deceased loved ones.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
It was pretty wild.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
I might have been on Broad Street with the Battle
of Tequila and my friends and a bunch of beers.

Speaker 6 (01:31:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
The year before.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
Brady and the amazing comeback somehow, despite the deathficit comes
all the way back to Sting Shanahan and the Falcons.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
So what do I heard things about this up this game.
My buddy Chris Long always brings up that he they
called a holding on him like he was rushing the passer.
I think it was Jake Matthews still the time kind
of holding and it took him out of field goal
range with that final possession. And he always points to
that being the best play of the game. So that
that we joke about that a lot. That's always like

(01:32:19):
it's it's great, it's a great lineman thing, right, like, yeah,
you know, like he didn't get the sack, but but
he obviously he made it, that's true. Not on a
field goal range, right, they got l Jones had to
catch right, the holding call knocked him back out of
a field goal range. I mean, look for me, obviously
the James Wade should have won MVP, as we know
that he got robbed of that one. I just think
that that that that that you know, high Tower, I

(01:32:41):
think Foreman was the one who missed High Tower, right,
just like a complete brain fart from the running back there.
If you just you just get a piece of High Tower, right,
a piece ball goes incomplete, he just gets sacked. Whatever
that you probably win the game. But he missed him, sack, fumble,
recovered touchdown. I mean, what that's the that's football, man.
You make the players when they're there. Yeah. But if

(01:33:04):
you if you just run the play clock down, you're
gonna win probably, Yeah, I mean the Falcons really I
read it. I read it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
I mean surely there after they did a whole thing
about if you just take if you don't you run
the play clock down below ten, not even like to
the to three, below ten, you're gonna win the game.
They're not gonna be enough time for Brady to come back.
Thirty four to twenty eight. The goat is the goat.
I mean, he was incredible Denver twenty four, Caroline of ten.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
What do you remember from that one?

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Just von Miller completely doah, he was unbelievable. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
And how about the ball sitting there and Cam Yeah,
look just.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Eyeballing it, not going for it. Not a great look.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
But I a lot of quarterbacks are taught not to
dive in piles. I'm not that concerned about that play. Well,
I get it, but if he dives in a pile
and his shoulder gets mangled, what's the point of diving
the pile? Right? I mean, at that point doesn't matter, right,
I don't know. I'm less caught up on that play
than our people are.

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
Patriots twenty eight, Seattle twenty four and this game.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
Okay, so this game, yeah, the obsession over the final play,
so let's talk about this, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Yes, which is why that prop.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
Remember we add they throw a pass from the one
yard line, so.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
It was the right decision to pass the ball. They
ran the wrong play. So here's what happened on that play.

Speaker 6 (01:34:45):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Newingly came in with a pretty unique defense. They came
in with a goal line front, so it's six defensive
linemen in the game. Right, Seattle was a nickel they
were an eleven personnel, so they have basically six blockers
for the six big defensive linemen that are on the field.
And then, of course the Patriots had had linebackers and
then they put a nickel defensive backfield in the game.

(01:35:09):
So typically when you do goal line, you have big
people in the game, right, Right, they didn't do that,
so kind of get fused Seattle. They to me they
throwing the ball was the right decision. There was no
path run the football. There was they were out leverage.
They're a bad situation to run the football. But Bali
chick the knock call time out, which I thought that
was genius. Saddle scrambled and they ran a very in
that at that time period, a very popular play on

(01:35:30):
the goal line. I pick play right, yeah, And I
thought there was a wrong past concept called I thought
it was fine to pass the football.

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
I listen, I agree with you. Yeah, I fig you're right.
But judging by that defense, but they could have did
different things and move them a little bit. You know,
that's that was the problem. Uh all right, Seattle forty three,
Denver hate whoa remember that one.

Speaker 3 (01:35:55):
The first nap of the game, buddy, Like, I was like, oh, boys.

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
Yeah, one of the great super Bowls, the hardball super Bowl,
Baltimore thirty four, sang Leo thirty one.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
The lights go out?

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, way way do we have
brain today?

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
Yes we do, Yes, I love it. Yes, yes we
have that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Giants twenty one, Patriots seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
I mean from Lucas Oil. Just a pass rush man
ever tied super Bowls? Your boys spacks right, pass rush?

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, one of the great ones. On
February six, twenty eleven, Green Bay thirty one, Steelers twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
That was a great song.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
I don't remember much other than Aaron Rodgers, like just
in crowdble.

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
Yeah, and I still can't believe that that was it
for him.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
Yeah, that's the only one I ever played it. First
time starter. You're waiting for him.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
He takes head the Winds super Bowl the following year,
if you remember where they go fifteen to one or
fourteen to two. The next year, lose the they get
the buye, they get the one seed the NFC, they
have a bye.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
They're playing the Giants.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
Giants beat them.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
The Giants complete a hail Mary at right before halftime
for seven points.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
Yeah, amazing, man, amazing. All right, let me keep going
here and keep giving you good stuff. Saints thirty one,
Indianapolis seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
The on side kicking the interception, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Peyton.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
And this one this Pittsburgh twenty seven, Arizona twenty three,
which was an Austome Hindes.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Ward, James Harrison and Centennial Holmes.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
Yeah, man, Giants seventeen and Patriots fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
That was an amazing run pass rush right again and
then the David Tan playing and then and the pump
and go right, the the Slam.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
Go from to burse. Yeah, but they were just that
was awesome. Oh yeah, they were.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
That was the year. I remember Spac saying he went.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
They played Patriots were unbeaten, and they played that Saturday
night and they played there the last.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Weekend of the season.

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
Yeah, and then they deployed the NASCAR package all of that,
and uh, I never forget that run. The Giants had
to play at Tampa, which was tough, at Dallas at
Green Bay in a snowstorm, yep, and then I remember

(01:38:54):
Farv's nose running and it was like it was wild
that they went in that were in the Green Bay
and the snowstorm and won, and and then beating the
unbeaten Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
What have Ron died?

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
Unbelievable?

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
Colts twenty nine, Bear seventeen, Peyton wins his first.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Yeah, I don't remember much but at the hester opening play.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
Yeah, Steelers twenty one ten.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
Now we're getting a Super Bowls that I don't think Ben,
I don't remember a ton of I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
New England twenty four to twenty one over over the Eagles.
That was the from Jacksonville. If you remember that game,
not very much. No, in New England thirty twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
Remember the Panthers game. Sure that was against Jake delloone,
the long touchdown by Moose that game close, you have
min Terran field goal Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
Now, I hate bringing this up because of my buddy
Lincoln Kennedy forty eight to twenty one, Tampa Over.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
I don't remember a single play from that game.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
Well, the whole story was the part Callahan Gruden went
to Tampa Bay. Callahan never changed anything. Bruden knew everything
that the Raiders were running. Yeah, they were calling out
the place. Yeah. Patriot twenty seventeen against The Grady Show
on Turf.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
I remember there's a video John Madden, obviously incredible NFL mind,
and he said before that final drive of the game
that he would not have Tom Brady attempt to go
down the field to game with a field going. Then
Brady did the exact thing that he said he wasn't
gonna do. It was very funny. He's mad and obviously
so good, and he said something like, if I trust
this young kid right now, I just I would just

(01:40:42):
go to overtime. I go overtime, Pat and then Brady
just bing banging, boom, right down the field. Check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
That's wild.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
And then the Ravens thirty four to seven, the great
Ray Lewis lead defense and read and that monster Raven
defense just snuffs out to jicks.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
I remember much from that one either.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
Yeah, all right, we're gonna take quick t o come back.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
We'll call talk to the Brain.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
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Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
All right, welcome back, Fellas and Jeff. We take a
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(01:42:15):
Happy super Bowl Saturday.

Speaker 6 (01:42:19):
Hello, good to hear your voice.

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
Well you just made Jeff's day because Jeff said to me,
do we have brain? I go yeah, he goes, yes,
let's be Yeah, you guys were You guys are are
like completely simpotico.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
It's it's a cool thing.

Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
I always liked the see if you guys appreciate this
where you you know, you might have a group of
friends and you bring somebody else around and then they
like it and then like there's like harmony among the friends.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
It's a cool thing.

Speaker 6 (01:42:55):
Yes, that's a very very tap in to this world,
which I respect and like. And he knows, he knows
what he's talking for everyone listening. He's extremely intelligent and
he knows. He's very very, very very good.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
I wish I won as many wagers as you. I appreciate.
I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
Yeah, Well, you guys are too sharpiets too sharpiece a brain.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Let's examine this game.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
Let's dive back because now just for everybody listening, the
brain dives in like he's already all all in and
with all his with all his stuff. Maybe something catches
his eyes time goes on. He sees value as the
lines jump up and down and move.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
Where are your positions? So far?

Speaker 6 (01:43:43):
My biggest one, anth I know I said it to
you a few times. It's the under team total for
the Seattle Seahawks get both the first half and the
game first half under thirteen and a half game twenty
five and a half. Look for me, and I will
say even where I mean, I'm a Philly guy, but
even more than the Eagles or any other team I
followed this year, it's been these two teams because I

(01:44:05):
was kind of on these two teams maybe week five,
week six. These were kind of my two horses that
I took to go to the Super Bowl. So I
watched and followed these two teams religiously, and I really
believe fiercely so by the way, I was just getting
too much respect, or Newly is just not getting enough.

(01:44:26):
I don't know which one of the two it is.
Maybe it's both. And I think this is far and
away the best defense that Seattle and Sam Donner are
going to have faced in a long time. And I
just feel very comfortable. And Seattle may win the game
and they may cover the game, but I don't think
they're scoring their twenty six plus points and I feel
very good about it. Very big bet for me. Seattle's

(01:44:46):
team total under twenty five and a half in the
game under thirteen and a half first tep.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
I do think it's under game. I just I can't
see both offensive scoring a ton. I know it's been
a popular bet. Now I got eight and a half,
it's now seven and a half under first quarter. Yeah,
I just think I think it might be zero zero
after the first that's by way, that's fifty if you
want to do zero zero three nothing, three to three.
I just newly has started slow A bunch of the

(01:45:12):
postseasons that has been a little bit faster. They've played
mores defenses. Obviously, as you mentioned, I just in first
quarter under is also a wager that I've made him uncomfortable.

Speaker 6 (01:45:20):
I agree with it one hundred percent. I may add
to that on I think, but I agree with it
one hundred percent. One bet anty which I just added
yesterday some more. I was looking at it and I
just got to read this. I really I started thinking about,
you know, matchups, how things are going to play out,
and Drake may Okay, I understand he's for some people

(01:45:42):
he lost by one vote, friend DP, I think people
are forgetting that a little bit because he's had not
the best postseason. I'm not even to count that Denver
game because of the weather. But if last thirteen regular
season games he went over two hundred and nineteen and
a half yards eagon, there's even a two thirteen and
a half out there. He went over twelve of the
last thirteen games. He won over one of the two
playoff games. It wasn't the weather game in Denver. I

(01:46:04):
just believe against the team that is very hard to
run the ball against Hills, that he's going to get
his two n twenty yards. By the way, Seattle when
they played a team that I said to be a
passing team Baker Mayfield three seventy nine, Trevor Lawrence two
fifty eight, Jacob Ribrissett two fifty eight, Stafford one point
thirty four fifty seven three seventy four. So let's not
pretend here that this team has been shutting everyone down

(01:46:26):
on holding the less than two hundred yards, because that's
not the case.

Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
Well, you know what, it's great that too, because if
Seattle be in a favorite, if Seattle's leading it's going
to force May to throw the football, so I think
it's a great part.

Speaker 6 (01:46:42):
Cent true, I think to nineteen and a half again,
I just think it's too short. I think it's too short.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
Drake May's rushing number opened twenty nine and a half.
I got up to thirty eight and a half. I
got thirty and a half under thirty eight and a half.
I think it's an under rushing game for him. Him.
I think the number is coming back down out realize
how crazy that and how high that number got sat
I went a ton of zone. I just don't think
he's gonna run the ball. Maybe it showed us a
little beat up. What do you think about my my

(01:47:10):
under rushing for day?

Speaker 6 (01:47:12):
Yeah, I have that, and I also have under six
and a half rushing attempts getting juice, I bet both.
I really like Jeff what you I guess this is
why I really do enjoy talking to you a lot.
You offer perspectives that people like me can't, right. I mean,
you actually played the game at the highest of high levels.
You were in the locker rooms with the best of
the best coaches, so you truly again for Vale, this

(01:47:35):
this is a man that actually really has been in
the trenches and the fire and understands how things go.
And then what different coverages mean and what different matchups mean.
And when you talked about Jeff the zone coverage thing,
I really started thinking about that. I'm like, Man, like
a light bulb went off my head. I'm like, yeah,
I guess it can be harder for him to get
those big twenty five yard runs. Yes, when there's no

(01:47:57):
when there's man coverage for everyone, let's say that that
means you're only your guy everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
Funny, we had this exact conversation like about forty five
minutes ago your spot on Brain.

Speaker 6 (01:48:08):
Yeah, And I really like with Jeff's perspective on that,
it really kind of opened my eyes to Yeah, I mean, damn,
that's this guy's freaking right. And again I always say
I'm always looking to learn, always looking to get good
information from people, And and to me, that was a
great That was a great point by Jeff. And I'm
just gladly going to tell it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
So we we both like and you and I discussed
this on another show last week, but we both like
the tight ends over and the backs out of the
backfield over and receiving yards.

Speaker 6 (01:48:44):
Yeah, I took rimondre Stevenson. I really like his I've
been over two and a half receptions. I think Stevenson
has a not not so much in the running game
at all, but I think receiving wise, they're going to
use him. And again we talked about the tight ends Anthony.
I think this is gonna be one of the worst.
I mean, now, he's been so good this year JSN,

(01:49:04):
but I think that they're going to have a little
less success for him than in the past. And the
next best receiver on the team this year the yards wise,
has been a J. Barner. I think Barner gets three catches.

Speaker 3 (01:49:15):
As we go through these, I do have a kind
of a question just philosophy wise, Like so last year
I bet too many Zerol props. I don't know I
had too many. There's just there's just no way to
win money if you have like fifty wagers, it's just
it's impossible. This year, I think I bet on like seven.
I think there's one more I might make a wager.
How do you sort of limit yourself because again, like

(01:49:37):
if you make too many wagers, just mathematically you're not
gonna you're not gonna win money.

Speaker 6 (01:49:42):
Well, well, Jeff, I listen, I respectfully disagree with that.
What I would answer to what I would say to
that is if you're going to make too many wagers
and stuff that doesn't have an expected value an advantage,
you're absolutely not gonna make money. But let me ask
you a question. If I if I said to you
that you could be the casino and you can get
ten million spins of roulette and you get the two

(01:50:03):
greens and black and the player gots red and it's
ten million spins, I'd say I'm going to win because
the advantage is always on my side over the long run.
I would say, if you can find enough bets Jeff,
that there is value, then you could still win. But
if you're just forcing bets because you're like, oh my god,
super Bowl, I just want to have the action, then
I'll agree with you. You can get pinched. But it

(01:50:23):
really just comes down to how many bets that you
can find that are off. As the years have gone on,
these things have gotten tighter it used to be. When
these things are opened up, especially like back in the
Westgate in Las Vegas, there'd be a lot more mistakes
on these opening lines through years and years and years
of them realizing what stuff they've been priced incorrectly. Those

(01:50:44):
free lunches, so to speak, have been taken away.

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
I think part of it too, though, is that I
wager on these games based off of how I think
the game's going to go game stripped and last years
are so wrong. And that is like, if you think
the game is going to be I think it's gonna
be under a game. I think we both agree on that.
I have a ton of unders and if it goes over,
I'm just gonna be screwed.

Speaker 6 (01:51:05):
Essentially, I want to say something, Jeffy, you just said
something very interesting and for a good listening for everyone
out there, is jeff you said, last year I gets
Chief's Eagles. You thought the Chiefs were going to win.
What I always tell people and removes all biased because
when you bet a game, Jeff, it's interesting if you
say you bet the let's say you bet the Chiefs
before they put the Eagles, or you bet the Eagles
for the Chiefs, you have an inherent bias without of

(01:51:27):
be knowing it. You're going to think the referees wrapped
to get you. You're going to think you're just going
to be well, maybe not you but you do thing
like people are going to think that. I shouldn't say you.
I'm just talking about like person. But if you don't
go in there and you don't have anything that before,
and you're just looking at it objectively. The Eagles game
last year against the Chiefs is one of my all
time favorite live back games. It was one of my

(01:51:48):
probably five biggest of my life because it was very
evident early on and you, as a person who actually
played the position. The Chiefs offensive line had no chance
of blocking the Eagles, and it was evident. Patrick Mahomes
I knew right away, right away. I said, this is
going to be a four or five touchdown win. Like
forget winning a win. I just I think they can't.

(01:52:10):
It's this Tampa Bay part too. They can't protect him.
And so I always love live betting if there is
a situation doesn't happen often, but like last year's Eagles
Chiefs me as a perfect example.

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
Yeah, clear as.

Speaker 6 (01:52:22):
Day, they had no chance to stop in Eagles defense,
and Mahomes and the Chiefs were dead.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
I don't know what that could be this year.

Speaker 6 (01:52:29):
Yeah, Well, you never know when it's going to come up.
I mean, that's the thing. If you don't know, I mean,
we don't think it was gonna be last year, right, Yes,
about the Eagles going won by five touchdowns? Right, Not
only anyone thought that so, but then you saw as
the game went on, and when Tampa Bay played the Chiefs,
people didn't think that, but as the game happened, you
just saw in that game that day, they're off the
f line couldn't protect and when you can't protect a quarterback,

(01:52:49):
I don't care how good the quarterback is. We had
hardably the top three quarterback of all time Mahomes twice
in that situation he faltered because he had no chance.
Maybe I don't know, maybe the Seattle's defensive line cracks
New England's or New England's crack Seattle and Arnold or
may can't get anything done because of it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:08):
Yeah, yeah, all right, let's do this take quick to you.
We'll come back. We'll run through from more of the
props that you like, the whole thing. Anything for today
as well, Big Day college basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
This is the Fellas.

Speaker 4 (01:53:23):
And Jeff and the Brain right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
Welcome back Fellas. A Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:53:31):
Saturday, Jeff and the Brain wrap it up don't forget
for the best pregame show coming up next after US
Countdown to Kickoff, presented by Bet MGM. All right, boys,
hey brain Brook fast anything in college basketball the NBA

(01:53:52):
today he.

Speaker 6 (01:53:54):
Has the college basketball I usually I'm leary of taking
the rude teams, but uh buy us playing Houston day.
I just think Houston's flat out legit better than by U.
I think Houston's gonna win this game. They're one point favorite.
I bet Houston. I really think they're gonna win. And
I do actually like North Carolina at home getting six

(01:54:18):
against Duke. Look, I know how good Duke is, I
get it, but I think North Carolina is actually pretty
good as well. I thought the plant closed three and
a half such a good rivalry game. I think this
game will be tight. I actually think North Carolina road
the champions. Yeah, so I took the points.

Speaker 3 (01:54:36):
I want to back today, but twenty and a half
is to the point.

Speaker 6 (01:54:41):
By the way, Jess Colin, I asked you last week.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Well, no, thank you. Oregon is just so bad. They
are like atrociously bad. Bet might be back to who knows.
I like Illinois to cover at Michigan State. I'm like
crazy There're not crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:54:53):
It's interesting. We talk about the spots all the time, Jeff.
And to me, Illinois, I'm sorry Michigan State lose this
tough game at home in Michigan get the upset by Minnesota.
I just know I'm going to get like all guns
of blazing with his own company, and it's gonna be
like one of those, like just one of those games.
I've just seen this story so many times where okay,

(01:55:16):
it only seems clearly the better team, but it's still
and on always playing great, playing great. But actually I
would lean Michigan State just now. Maybe I'm just going
too much in the past, Jeff, but I just seen
is too. It's like Mike Tomlin. I've seen it too
many times where these games he just comes up big.
So for me lean Michigan State. But I'm passing. I'm

(01:55:38):
not actually gonna bet it because I agree you always clearly.

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
Better anything in the association. And the deadline. Did it
change your futures outlook?

Speaker 6 (01:55:52):
Not really sure changed my futures outlook? Again, I thought
it was an interesting deadline for sure, but I don't
know if it really move the needle. Again. I know
I said and before I thought certain teams could have
traded for Anthony Davis for free and maybe that could
have moved an evil needle. But people chose just to
not do anything with him, which I thought was interesting.

(01:56:14):
His value is so low. Look in the Association tonight.
I really like the way Charlotte is playing right now.
I told you Anthony, I took them at seventeen to
one to win the division like three days ago. They're
right there. There's like one of the hottest teams in
basketball right now. They're laying one and a half at Atlanta.
I think Charlotte keeps it rolling and they win.

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
The Hornets. Thing is so fascinating because I'm very curious
what happens then after the week off for the break.
It feels like with such a young team, everyone's on
talk about them all All Star break right like, and
then I'm just tearing me. I live in Charlotte. I've
seen this story many times of them like sort of
have a good moment then getting crushed at certain points.

(01:56:58):
But they're they're they're playing, and they went from sellers
two months ago, two weeks ago to nothing at the
All Star break. I mean they've really gone And you
look at the balls in front of them, who basically
had decided to take even though they can't really with
the record, they're going to be a playing team at
the minimum, and you have a chance to step with
a three and a half back of division I.

Speaker 6 (01:57:17):
Think right now, yeah, I thinkause three or three, and
I think the three back Jeff in Miami lost again yesterday.
And here's the thing. The best team in the division.
So that that that, I mean, here's something as well too.
And you know what's interesting is I had no clue.
I don't know about you, Jeff, no clue. And I
think you did like him fire call correctly. But I
thought he was good. But I didn't think kan Kan

(01:57:38):
n Eppele was going to be like a superstar cup player.
I really misread that hat. And he's he's like Klay Thompson.
I mean, he.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
Does everything, he's the floor, he's a good ball What
I like the bad him was he's just a good
overall basketball player.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Like he's not just a shooter. Everybody funny was just
a shooter. He's a good ball player.

Speaker 6 (01:58:00):
He is he's arguably the second best player in the class.
I mean, you know, I probably would have to say
at this point, he is and he's just he's phenomenal
and he's changed that team. And obviously young guys like Miller,
you know, and good Bridges is you know, is a
solid player, and obviously ball when he plays seem it's
a lot of good young talent. I mean, this is

(01:58:21):
not to me like like a fluke. I think these
guys are good and I don't think it's going to stop.
I actually think they're going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
Any thoughts on an NBA champion I have liked. I
took the Nuggets before you know, injury a couple couple
of months, so I think the Nuggets can still win
the West.

Speaker 6 (01:58:39):
Well that's funny my big bet and that with the odds,
I don't, I mean, it's such a good bet, but
I had I bet Stantoni would play okay see in
the Western Conference finals at forty to one, like that
is like my I just want them to be on
separate parts to bracket to give that a chance to happen.
And look, it's I think the West and the NBA

(01:59:01):
is a little more open than people think. It seems
to me, like, okay see, I thought they had a
chance to have one of the onest historic like seventy
win seasons. Obviously that didn't happen. Devik absolutely can do it.
Jeff Murray's playing at the highest level of his career.
Joe Gets just still top three player, maybe the best
player in the world. The one thing that hurt them

(01:59:21):
to me, Jeff was they made that trade too with
the Nets to get a Cam Johnson and everyone loved him,
and he's just been nothing. I mean, he's been a blank.
So I think that their depth isn't quite as good
as before. If I was them, I'd actually consider going
for a little another guy off the bench at Cam
Tom for example, Cam Thomas just got waived. I think

(01:59:44):
he'd be a good fit there to give them a
little offense off the bench, because he's a guy that
could score twenty five and any night he actually averaged
twenty five last year.

Speaker 4 (01:59:51):
Yeah, I actually I feel you. I agree with you.
I do think Oka see when SGA gets back. I
think okay, c Yeah, favorite gets and I do think
they're much better than everybody else. But last thoughts on
the Super Bowl any other ones that we gotta look out. Boys,
give me a prediction of your score, brain.

Speaker 6 (02:00:13):
I'm gonna go twenty sixteen, UH, New England twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
Walker mac collells, this will do it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
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