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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Living the dream once again here on a fully loaded
sports Saturday. This is Fox Sports Saturday and for Jonas
Knox today as once again we are broadcasting from the
Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Nikki, it is great to see again, how you do?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
These are my favorite kind of Saturdays where we just
get to yap, just hang out, Yeah, just hang out.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
You know, well it's back.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
How many times have you said that?

Speaker 4 (00:25):
You know?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I was reminded, you know, when the preseason games begin. Look,
I don't read anything in the preseason games. I keep
trying to harp on people, and this again through my
own experience working with an NFL team that preseason games.
I mean, there are obviously exceptions to every rule, right,
but it's very rare because as teams come into training

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camp at most, there may be three or four spots
up for grabs. All the other I mean, obviously inies
can change things, but as far as jobs available three
or four and the decisions on who will fill those jobs,

(01:10):
ninety nine percent of it's based on what they see
day in and day out in practice. That's what they're
going to base it on. And so the games themselves
have no meaning from that sense. The only thing I
take away from preseason games is it's a reminder that
we're getting close. And to be honest with you, some
of the preseason games, the Hall of Fame game, obviously

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was a very entertaining game.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
What an anomaly.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
And I was watching because you know, I spend half
my time in the Phoenix areas watching Thursday night Cardinals
second game because they were in the Hall of Fame
game taking on the Raiders in Vegas. And obviously I
wanted to watch this game because I wanted to see
f Nana Mendoza.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
He looked good.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
You know, I've been one of those guys you when
you talk about the number one overall pick, and he
has an amazing resume. I know you were a superstar student,
and so was Mendoza. I mean, this guy graduated Berkeley
in three years. I mean he was accepted to Ivy
League schools hoping to somehow get an invite to any

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kind of Division one school. Cal reached out to him.
He redshirted a year. He graduated Cal in three years.
He was a grad student last year in Indiana when
he transfers to win the Heisman Trophy. So we know
he's a super smart guy. But what I wanted to
see was does this guy have the tools, like can
he make throws? And he made a couple of throws

(02:38):
in that game against the Cardinals that were yeah, a
plus like velocity. I mean, you know, right between defenders
where the only way that pass is going to get
to the receiver.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's got to be on the money.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Because I've always said to the two quarterbacks, if you
are going to be a successful quarterback, I mean top
level quarterback in the NFL, well, you have to have
two things. One, you have to throw the ball accurately
and Jay you know, again accurately sometimes it's accurate in
the move, so that a pass that is a ten
yard pass can become a twenty five yard game if

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you put it in the right spot. The second thing
is to be able to make instantaneous decisions on the field.
You have to be able to process information instantaneously. Where
do I throw it?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
When do I check down?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
When do I throw it away? When do I eat it?
When do I run? All of these are split second decisions.
If you do those two at an elite level, you
will be an elite quarterback. And at least for so far,
I mean the problem for Mendoza is.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's a bad team. The Raiders aren't good yet.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
They have a lot of pieces they got to fill
in around him, but they're focused on that offense.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Kubiak is the new coach. He's an offensive guy.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
So you know that those are the type of things
that I'm looking for, especially with young quarterbacks. Do you
look like you belong like are you on the field
and you look like the moment isn't too big for you?
Am I takeaway a Mendoza was, Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
He belongs to or are we going to have a
Sugar Sanders moment? Now, let's say for the Rams today
you talk about positions up up for grabs, So the Rams,
it's now Stafford's I would be he shouldn't play a
snap of preseason fo I mean maybe a couple of
drives in game what three? But are we going to

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learn anything from seeing Stetson Bennett versus Ty Simpson.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, let's I'm glad you brought this up. Okay, Okay,
So Aaron Donald's still not a Ram right right? I
mean at some point if Aaron Donald's going to join
the Rams, wouldn't we know like soon?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Gosh, stee, we both work in TV news as well.
I'm just kind of waiting for that news drop to happen,
you know, because it's like, let's just get the release
out there, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
But that's not the problem for the Rams right now.
The problem you have is a year ago, at this time,
we were questioning whether Matthew Stafford was even going to
start to SA season. He had the back situation sing.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
On like a glass magic table, right.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I remember Eagles coming off the Super Bowl win and
we're doing our preseason shows and I'm talking about who
do we like in the NFC, and I said, well,
I'll put it this way. The Eagles are the favorites.
This is before last season. But the team that I
think is the team that can challenge him is the Rams.

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But only if only if Matthew Stafford can stay on
the field. Well, he stays on the field, and he's
the MVP. So you have two quarterbacks that are going
to see action. Stet's and Bennett has played three years
of the Rams. He has yet to play a single
snap in the NFL, not one in the regular season,
not what. He hadn't even taken a knee in a
regular season game.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Zero games, which is such a credit to the health
of Stafford.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, I mean they've had one, right exactly. But you know,
you have a Jimmy Garoppolo and they've had backups, right
so stets and Ben has never actually taken a snap
in a regular season NFL game. He's your backup quarterback
right now. And they have Ty Simpson, who was a
one year starter at Alabama. You know, the guy talks.
I was running some soundbites on my TV last night

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here in La TV work and Simpson's yeah, yeah, you know,
but I'm gonna play within myself. I'm not gonna ask
myself to do things I can't too. I'm looking at
the guy like, I don't know what you can do
right now, to be honest with.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
You, But you mean play within yourself.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, come on. But if you're the Rams right now,
you're gonna roll the dice.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You're gonna roll the dice. So you you are the
overwhelming favorites to win the Super Bowl this year. You
add Miles Garrett, you add McDuffie, I have all these
new players and everything else. But if Matthew Stafford goes down,
where are you? I would I would seriously be honey
right now for a veteran backup quarterback.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Not to mention they don't have depth in the O line.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
No, no, they don't.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
And I look at the rams and it just seems
it all seems so good to be true, too good
to be true, right Like, there's, like you said, overwhelming
favorites the path for them to win another Super Bowl
at home. It feels inevitable with the foundation ten years
in LA ten years. You know, it just seems like

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it's it's meant to be. But we know we were
sitting here a year ago talking about Green Bay and
their season went in a flames.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Every single year in the NFL, without exception, there's going
to be at least four teams that way overachieve preseason expectations,
and there are gonna be four teams that way underachieve
preseason expectations every year. It happens, yep, without fail. Anybody
have New England in the Super Bowl preseason last year?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Not a chance. So you know, that's one of the things.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I love to look at right now, Okay, which teams
out there based on what we're expecting. And again, all
these expectations are based on last year, well last year
has zero impact on this year. There's new schedules, and
remember schedules are created in the NFL based on where
you finished the year before. That's how they create the schedules. So,

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for instance, New England last year had not only the
easiest schedule in the league, they had the easiest schedule
any team had had since nineteen ninety nine. And they
took full advantage of it. They won the games that
they had the opportunity to win. They didn't blow many
of those games. On the flip side, obviously, is teams

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that come in with a lot of hype. In fact,
what's interesting to me right now is we talk about
preseason odds. I'm getting curious about this with you, Nikki.
So right now, the Rams are the overall favorite to
win the Super Bowl. But according to Vaga so odds,
the team that is favored and it's a pretty wide

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margin to win. The AFC team that's going to be
in the Super Bowl are the Buffalo Bills, who just
fired their coach.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
They hired from within.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
So they didn't even go to an outside source as
far as their new coach is concerned. Do you buy
that Buffalo is the team to beat in the AFC
this year.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
No, I just think we've seen and it's interesting to
me too. In the bigger picture of sports, if you're
looking to shake things up, right, firing the head coach
is hiring them within the way to truly shift.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, that's how Josh Allen wanted it. I'm sure Josh
Allen had a bit saying.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
It absolutely, but I just don't know. I feel for
Buffalo and their fans, but it feels like this is
the last year, felt like the window for them. They
didn't achieve it. I don't This year it's as good
a window as any of the windows. Now wide o
open with mahomes out.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
All right, close your eyes right now. I want to
see if you have a vision.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Can you envision Josh Allen ever running onto the field
for a Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
No?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Okay, can you?

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I'm closing my eyes tight and my thinking is Buffalo
today is not as good as they were three years ago.
They don't seem to be. The last time I checked
the defending champions of the afcast of the New England Patriots. Yeah,
not the Buffalo Bills. And by the way, another team
that had a lot of people the number two team
is the Ravens. I was listening to guys this morning.

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They were talking about Lamar Jackson and the difference between
Lamar Jackson and a Josh Allen. Josh Allen is a
huge individual, big physically, big guy, Ben Roethlisberger type guy. Right,
he doesn't miss games, no matter how hurt he is.
Lamar Jackson, if he's not one hundred percent healthy.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
He's not playing.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
He doesn't play. He doesn't play. Do you think Lamar
Jackson is going to hold it for seventeen games this year?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
And I kind of and another team, by the way.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
With a new coach, I do want to retract. I
do think Buffalo has a shot. I want them to
have a shot. I would love to see the city
of Buffalo. They deserve a Super Bowl as good as
any team in this league. But and Josh A. Hahn's
such a likable, rootable character, right, But I don't know,

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like you mentioned, they don't seem to be trending year
by year in the direction where they feel like they're
getting closer and closer.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I agree with you. I think that last year we
had the New England Patriots, I mean, everything just fell
their way right to get to the Super Bowl including
you know, the Broncos end up losing bow Nicks and
they had no quarterback for that AFC Championship game, so
literally everything worked out in New England's favor. I think
we could have a very similar situation in the AFC

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again this year. It could be a team that right
now is not one hundred percent on our radar. All right,
we got a lot to cover in a short amount
of time. I want to get to a couple of
interesting stories today. One of them has to do with
a number, A number, a number. And you know, Nikki,
I'm a big numbers.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Guy, yes, but honest some might call you a quant
Steve right.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
You know I'm a little rainman ished when a number one. Yes,
but you know what I'm not into. Number two are
uniform numbers.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Number three?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Honestly, I don't even pay attention to uniform numbers. Some
of the people are obsessed by uniform numbers. That is
the one number that, honestly, you asked me, like somebody's
uniform numbers NUMBERT Frankly, I'm a little lost. So why
is this such a big deal for an individual? We'll
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Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and subscribe. Well, anyone that
has listened to me over the years is fully aware
of my obsession with numbers. Numbers are the reason that
I even got interested in sports to begin with my
very first pack of baseball cards when I was in
first grade. I bought really only because it said baseball

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bubble gum. I thought it was a big square piece
of bubble.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm a bubblegum person.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
I love bubble.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I love bubble gum.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
And so I was in line at the little Corner
market with my mom and they have the candy lay
and I see baseball bubble gum. I said, Mom, can
I have a b It was five cents five cents,
so she said sure. So I opened up and there's
a stick of gum. It was like this rectangular and

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was hard as a rock, like it was not even edible,
which was obviously a big disappointment. Inside were five cards.
I can actually remember the five cards. Wow, and this.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Is sixty one years ago.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
So those five cards were Camille Pasqual, Don Zimmer, Pete, Rickard,
Ray Sadeki and and say Ra Sideki command Oh and
Dick Stewart. Obviously, I have no idea who these players are.
I don't know. And if you'd asked me at that
age in the first grade, can you name any baseball players?

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And I you know, I was in LA so I
could say, yeah, Sandy Cofax and Don Drysdale. I probably
knew Willie May's or Mickey Mount and stuff like that.
The players meant nothing to me. I flipped the card
over and I see these columns of numbers, all their stats.
I was just love at first.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Sight, and I said, I want more of these, and
then I would arrange the cards.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I didn't even follow the games. I didn't listen to Ray,
I didn't do any all. I was with these cards.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
And then I would get the cards and arrange by
the numbers like you had the mind.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
And this is that was how myraing still works obviously.
So anyway, but the one thing that I've never gotten
into for whatever reason. Are uniform numbers A lot of
people are they're, you know, like the uniform number matters,
you know, and I'm there's certain guys.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I in what way does it matter?

Speaker 7 (16:59):
Though?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well, that is a great question, Nikki, because let me
give you an example here. Two of the most famous
college football programs of all time. I don't think anyone
would argue with this are Notre Dame in Alabama. Combined,
they have retired zero jersey numbers. Combined, they have eleven

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Heisman Trophy winners. In fact, let's talk about Notre Dame
for a second. One of the all time greatest names
in Notre Dame football history is Paul Horning, who, of
course became a legend with the Green Bay Packers during
the Lombardi era. He famously wore number five his entire
football life. He was a quarterback at Notre Dame, and
then when he came to the NFL, he still wore

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number five, even though he had become a running back.
But he was number five. They thought so little of
Paul Horning's number five. In twenty twelve, the year Manti
Tail almost won the Heisman Trophy at Notre Dame, lost
to Johnny Football. He wore number five as a linebacker,
but he wasn't the only number five on the team.

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The starting quarterback Everett Golson also wore number five. You're like,
how's that possible? Well, one guy was on what the offense,
one was on defense. So the idea of this Jaden
Daniels story, he is so upset that they have reissued
his number five. Do we have the sound on this? Guys?

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All right? So Lane Kiffin now is the new coach
at LSU, and they brought in a player a year
ago named DJ Pickett, and last year as a freshman,
he wore number three, which was the year after Jaden
Daniels obviously had left LSU and won the Heisman Trophy

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warring number five. But now JD.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Pickett said, actually, I've wore number five my entire life.
I want number five. Here's Lane kiffen on.

Speaker 8 (18:59):
That PJ is in five.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
And that was.

Speaker 8 (19:04):
A situation that was promised to him in recruiting here
for him to sign here. And I've done a lot
of research on that with the family and the representatives
and the people, and so really out of that, I
didn't have a decision to make it was promised to
the kid wasn't done for whatever. I'm not going to
get into that. I'm not going to judge something I
wasn't here of. But when the kids promised something to

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come to school, he should wear it. And so at
that point I don't really think that's my decision. You know,
you should be honored what he was told.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
And so that's where now, okay, And remember he didn't
obviously recruiting. Brian Kelly did and so they bring him
in and he wore number three, not number five. So
here is DJ picking now talking about the fact that
number five happened to be the number of Jadeen Daniels
when he won the Heisman a couple of years.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
Ago, about the number of situation, what a number of
my whole life since I was four years old as
a numberle has promised. Yeah, and I wish Jaden abyss
good player and he did real good here, So that's
all okay.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Now, Jadon Daniels is so upset by this development that
he has told LSU to pull his jersey, his name,
image and likeness off the shelves forever. Pull my stuff
out because again he gets paid for this stuff nowadays.
But He won the Hestood Trophy a few years ago
for LSU, and now he is telling LSU cease and desist,

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pull all of my merchandise out of your stores. You
are finished as far as I concerned. How dare you
even think about giving my number to somebody else?

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Here's the thing, though, do we think this is Jaden
Daniels or his mom? Do we think this is Jaden
Daniels camp. It's well known his mother, Regina Jackson, is
actively involved in his business affairs, and I think Danils
on Instagram kind of hinted that he doesn't really want

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this smoke, like this drama around his number or whatever
she's perceiving or trying to protect about his legacy at
his alma mater. I think he Here's what he said
on Instagram. He wrote, I've been locked in on training camp.
That's been my number one focus. I have a lot
of gratitude for my time at LSU, and I'm proud
of what my teammates and I accomplished there. Obviously, there
are a lot of issues to be worked out between

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my team and LSU, and my hope is that it
will get done privately. My sole personal focus is on
commander's football. So do you think he's like, hey, mom,
cut it out.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Well, he's getting crucified on social media. It is mocking him.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
There.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
There was one team that scored four runs.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
They said, we did not score five runs tonight because
it's contained Daniels getting permission to get five.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
He should, I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Columbia University had a picture of their football field and
the five yard line a marker was eliminated because they
didn't get permission. People are mocking this guy on social
media for the not allowing number five. Now, there are
schools that do retied numbers, USC being an example here
in LA. They've only retired eight numbers. The eight numbers

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of the eight Heisman Trophy winners they have, they do
retire them. However, USC did have a player, a high
school player that made a request directly to Mike Garrett.
The very first Heisman Trophy winner at USC were number twenty.
His number was retired at that time. Mike was the
athletic director at USC, and he asked permission to wear

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the number, and Mike Garrett said, fine, you can wear
my number.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
What do you think? And did you There was a
situation with Matt Liner too at number eleven. Yes, yes,
I think they were going to unretire his number unretired
because a new recruit wanted.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well, they're never going to unretire, but I mean you
would have I remember saying I think linerd did not
give the guy.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Permission I have, So that's interesting to me too. Yeah,
I think it's they were going to do it regardless
of right.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Matt Liner did not want to have his number used.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, unlike Mike Garrett, who did get permission for a
player to use his number. Look, why do you have
to retire numbers? I don't give that retiring in numbers.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
So and it's interesting because I yeah, I think the
retiring the numbers is absurd. And I love that you
brought up the two established programs that don't retire numbers never,
because I think philosophically, as a program, you should carry
yourself with the mindset. We crank out so much good
talent that if we retired numbers, there would be no
numbers left.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I work for an organization of the Raiders that has
never retired a number, and I mentioned this soft air
HOWI long retired after thirteen years, Hall of Famer, eight
time pro Bowler were number seventy five with the Raiders.
The year after he retired, they issued his number to
a camp guy who.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Also played defensive line.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
A camp guy.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
They just handed him the number. There you go, seventy five.
No one else is using it, so there you go.
I don't get the number.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Lenova has two number ones retired, Jalen Brunson and Kyle Lowry. Right,
great talent, but it's just kind of funny. Two number
ones retired. That doesn't even make a sense. And there's
a player currently wearing number one in the program.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Look, there are numbers that are retired by sports.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Obviously, Baseball has retired the number forty two for Jackie Robinson,
the last guy to wear it. Remember they grandfathered it
in Marianna Rovert was number forty two. I believe he
was the last player once he retired.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
No one has ever worn forty two.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I think that's an appropriate retirement. I think Kobe Bryant
numbers in Lakers uniforms, both of.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
The twenty three and forty five, he wore two numbers.
You know, Yeah, but oh, no eight, I'm.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Sorry, twenty four and eight. You said twenty three and forty.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Kill Jordan in my head? Ye, yes, see how off
I am with uniform.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I'm thinking of the Michael Jordan numbers instead of Kobe's
rain Man.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
He's rain Man. I don't I couldn't tell if you
were pulling my leg there for him, I was like, wait,
what yes, No, I mean with Kobe, I think, yeah,
you retire both numbers. But that's a very exceptional, like
that's an exception to the rule.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
But I don't think about Jerry West.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Now. That was my greatest hero growing. That's the one
number I was into is number forty four, and I
wore it when I was a kid. If I had
a choice of a number, I wore number forty four.
That's the only way that he has.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
And then I think, organizationally, if you have a player
come in who's like, I want forty four because I
grew up watching film of Jerry West, or you know,
I think that's a great way to honor the legacy.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Also, well, there's otherways.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
You have rings of honor, right, or you have a
team hall of Fame, or you have statues or whatever
you want to do. I mean, by the way, the
statues are piling up at the crypt now aren't they
I have a new one going up with a copatar.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
It's kind of excessive. Wait another one.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
The very first one they put up was the Magic one.
And I'll never forget this.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I was on the Lakers station at the time we
went out for the unveiling and I looked up. I go,
that looks like Danny Glover. That doesn't look anything like
Magic Johnson.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
The one that's really cool is Shackah, the hanging shack Right,
that's awesome?

Speaker 1 (26:21):
You like that one?

Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Now it's just getting crowded.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
You know who will get a statue in Oklahoma City?
Russell Westbrook?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Should he get one as a Laker.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
And as a Sacramento King?

Speaker 7 (26:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Maybe as a Denver nugget.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I'll share a story about him.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, so I got a lot of Russell stories.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Oh I want to hear you. But first let's find
out what's trending right now.

Speaker 9 (26:43):
His number was retired at his alma mater, the University
of Southern California.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
First, sanitary purposes.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Are you a numbers guy, Isaac?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Like?

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Do uniform numbers matter?

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I mean, you are one of the most legendary play
by playmen in the history of the industry, and do
you lean on uniform numbers or how do they work
for you?

Speaker 10 (27:06):
Yes, because unlike you, and I feel that Nicky is
in the same boat here. I view sports in warm
and human terms, unlike the cold, statistical, factual.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Way that you do. That's how I identify every single
by the way, I would like to start NICKI with
a Steve Hartman update.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
And I'm honestly not making this up. Are you aware?

Speaker 10 (27:33):
And I'm not even exaggerating that Steve Hartman is literally
faster than AI. True, we did do a test on this.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
You asked a question that I had no idea what
the question was, and then you clicked on AI.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
To get the answer. It was a verbal thing, and yes,
the answer came out of my mouth.

Speaker 10 (27:56):
We use clat, we used whatever yes with AI, so
I typed it into well, I.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Learned so much when I'm sitting alongside Steve Hartman here.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Want to do double or nothing?

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Stand?

Speaker 7 (28:11):
Let's do it?

Speaker 4 (28:11):
All right?

Speaker 10 (28:12):
All right, I'm going to type in a question, yeah,
all right, and I'm gonna hit return, And just before
I hit return, I'm going to.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Ask the question we should just make this the whole show?

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
No, I do not want to do.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
This is the whole show, all right, here we go.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I'm just amusing him, Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
In the nineteen sixty four Heisman Trophy voting, who finished third,
Dick Pockus, you won again? Yep. You are literally faster
than AI, are you?

Speaker 10 (28:40):
And guys, we did not rehearse this beforehand, all right,
speaking of rehearsing things beforehand, I'm just going to get
up and.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Leave, like Steve.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Steve can just chat chat with chat.

Speaker 10 (28:54):
We all want to get up and dance. Dan, we all,
we all want to get up and leave after a
certain point listening. Yes, anyway, speaking of rehearsals, though, three
rehearsals going on right now for the NFL and the
regular season preseason action at Soldier Field. The Cleveland Browns
at Chicago Bears tied to ten at the half. Deshaun
Watson eleven of fifteen for one hundred and twenty six

(29:15):
yards in the opening stands of the Buffalo Bills with
a thirteen to seven a half time lead over Carolina
in their unveiling of new high Mark Stadium. Josh Allen
six of eight for what eleven of nine yard touchdown
pass to Keyon coleman See. In September, Josh and the
New York Giants up ten to three at halftime over
the Middoesota Vikings, who started Kyler Murray at quarterback two

(29:35):
out of three for ten yards. JJ McCarthy completed four
of seven for thirty four yards. Jackson Dart started the
game for the Giants and overcame an early visit to
the medical ted to throw a fifteen yard touchdown pass
to Malachi Fields. Jamis Winston has succeeded him at quarterback
and done a good job six out of seven for
eighty one yards.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm praying for the Lord to deliver me from peak sixes.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
And so far he has.

Speaker 10 (29:58):
Meanwhile, off the field'll be out of Seattle Seahawks cornerback
Devin Witherspoon according to a four year, one hundred and
thirty two million dollar extension with over one hundred and
one million guaranteed that makes him the highest paid cornerback
in at FL history. Arizona Cardinals head coach Mike Lafleora
telling reporters today that Rickie running.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Back Jeremiah Love will be out this week due.

Speaker 10 (30:18):
To a sore ankle, and in Major League Baseball, the
Saint Louis Cardinals a three to nothing lead over the
Cubs at Wrigley Field.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
In the bottom of the first inning.

Speaker 10 (30:26):
How about this, The Cardinals called up a prospect named
Joshua Baiez. Today, the first pitch he saw in the
major leagues, he hit for a two run home run.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Back to you guys, well, by the way, you want
me to rattle off the top ten and sixty four?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Do you want me to be Do you want me
to be honest? Yes, all right, I'll do it if
you want me to. You want to look at the
list here. I hope you won't be offended.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
But no, okay, all right?

Speaker 9 (30:50):
John Huart, Jerry Rob dick Is, Bob Timberlake, Jack Snow,
Tucker Fredrickson, Craig Morton, Steve DeLong, Cosmo Yakabatzi, and Brian Piccolo.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yes that Bryance Cosmo. Who Jakabatzi from Princeton? Come on,
all right? Anyway?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Was he an astronomy major at Princeton?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Oh? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Russell Westbrook announcing his retirement after eighteen years in the
NBA quick story and then I want to hear all
your stories about russ So when my when Russell Westbrook
story at UCLA was interesting because in two thousand and six,
UCLA makes an incredible run to the championship game, got

(31:32):
blown out by Florida in the championship game, and Jordan
Farmar decided to leave after his sophomore year. I don't
think UCLA was prepared for that, so they had a
sudden roster opening. Ben Hellen was the coach of the team,
and he's looking at his assistants like, we need to
fill that slot. One of his assistants said, there's a
kid that we've been looking at. He literally has zero

(31:55):
offensive skills, like zero, but he's an insane athlete. I
think he has a verbal to Pepperdine is what they
told him. They said, well, let's take a look at
this kid. Well, that kid turned out to be Russell Westbrook.
So his freshman year at UCLA barely played it all, barely,
But I did take my boys to a game. I
knew Ben Hallen well, So we're waiting after the game

(32:17):
to say hi to Coach Hallen. My youngest who's the
big basketball.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Fanatic at that time, he's like eight years old, and.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
So we're standing outside of the locker room waiting for
Hallen to come out, and I looked at him. I said, Garrett,
who do you like on this UCLA team? And they
had Aaron Aflala was on the team. They had Darren
Collis and they had a really good team. And he goes,
I like number zero, speaking of numbers, and I'm like zero.
I didn't even again, I'm not a uniform number guy.

(32:47):
He goes there he is, and I go Westbrook. The
guy even had to turn around before I even knew
what it was. He actually had come into the game
in garbage time and I guess not found a dunk.
Pretty impressive, I said, really, that's the guy you like
Russell Westbrook. A year later, he made such a run
during the tournament he turned out to be the fourth
pig in the draft. And now, obviously it's had one

(33:08):
of the most legendary careers in history eighteen years, three
straight years, averaging a triple double, former MVP seventy fifth
Anniversary team, but he never won a championship. All right,
that's my Russell Westbrook. I want to hear your russ.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Russell Westbrook is one of those conundrums of a human
right because his play can be both magnificent for his
size and athleticism. It can also be incredibly infuriating, right
for what he does on the court. He almost loses
himself in the moment. And you can love a competitor
like that, and you can also be really aggravated by

(33:46):
how that affects a team dynamic.

Speaker 11 (33:48):
His motor runs one hundred percent every time and exactly
and exhausting. It's been such a really fun journey. I'd
say to watch what he does.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
On the court. He is a difficult human to deal with.
And I learned that because my first sports local TV
stop was Oklahoma City, and that first professional team I
covered was the twenty sixteen Thunder that took the Golden
State Warriors to a three to one series lead and

(34:20):
then lost it, and then Kevin Durant infamously left for
Golden State. But learning how to cover a professional team
led by Russell Westbrook and then the terror he went
on the following season. It's with him, even in the wins,
even in the triple double glory, that MVP campaign. He's

(34:41):
really prickly and really scary for a young aspiring you know,
to figure out how to ask questions to and you
don't know what version you're gonna get. But I've seen
him rip off the heads of local beat reporters and
they all learned how to deal with it with grace.
But he is he is definitely enigma. But I celebrate

(35:02):
everything he's done.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Well.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I agree, although obviously his arrival in LA with the Lakers,
which was engineered by Lebron, was a disaster.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
The tail end of his career has just been not great.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
But I will say this final note on this.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
He did what I would do if I were an
athlete again, if I had the athletic ability to play
at the highest level of any sport, I'm going to
milk it to the very end. The fact that he
was still hanging out with the Kings last year was like, no,
I'm not chasing a championship. He basically played until the
phone stopped ringing, and the phone stopped ringing, and it's
over well.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
And I think part of that is how he affects
locker room dynamics correct.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
So it's but eighteen years unbelievable. No one could have
possibly imagined when my eight year old son said, I
like number zero, that that guy would somehow have some
legendary NBA career. That Russell weisbroing.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I want to see him drop in on some local
w REC games and just demolish people.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Here in La Nikki, as long as you're here, I
have got to get to some w NBA news. I've
got to get an update from you on where this
league is going. This is Fox Sports Saturday. You're listening
to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Steve Harmin, Nikki k Fox
Sports Saturday once again here in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
All right, so we have a little time here filling
in today for.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Jonas and Nikki. I want to I want to, I
want to separate a little bit. I've said this about
the w NBA and this see I'm I'm I go.
I'm old school when it comes to women's sports. Title nine.
It was new when I pretty much went to u
c l A. And when I went to u c

(36:42):
l A, the women's athletic department consisted of a trailer. Okay,
we didn't have the offices there. Now, Ann Myers.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Drysdale, I was with her earlier this week at a
Sparks game.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Well, Annie and I have been friends forever, I mean
almost fifty years.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
We've been friends. She looks incredible, she looks incredible, she
is incredible, She's an incredible person.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Sorry, I didn't mean to comment, but just seeing her
in person and I.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Was like Wow. After her husband, Don Drysdale, who was
one of the most humble superstar players I had ever
met in my life, of course, he was a Dodgers announcer,
passed away at a very young age. I remember it
was I guess a month afterwards and I was on
the phone with Annie for hours, you know, I mean,
she was dealing, she had three little kids. I mean,

(37:33):
it was devastating. I love her, I love everything about her,
and I love women's sports in general. Do I prefer
watching over men's sports. It depends. I mean, you know,
I can be in the moment, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I mean I'm the same way about men's sports. I mean,
I don't just watch sports because it's men or women.
There's got to be something compelling for me to actually
sit down and watch any game.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
You know.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
People say, well, sometimes you have to do it for
your job, obviously, but I mean as far as just
sitting down and watching game, there's got to be some
reason why I'm watching.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
I agree with you, especially working in the industry. There's
a lot to go to watch all the time.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
There's you know, when am I going to sit down
and watch nine in ings of baseball or what I'm
going to watch a full game? You know, I can
tune in the second half, you know, NBA game, fourth
quarter of that type of thing.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
So women's sports is no different to me.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
If there's a compelling reason to watch a game, I'm
going to watch a game. And Caitlyn Clark became a
compelling reason to watch a game, and I was watching
games that I normally don't watch. W has many great stars,
and by the way, they have reaped the full benefits
of all the attention that Caitlyn Kark has given to
this league. It's not just her. They're getting national endorsement deals.
They're all over the place. Sophie Cunningham had all these.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Mark negotiation CBA negotiations.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Correct, so she's doing commercial work. So they're all reaping
the benefits.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Very similar to what happened with Tiger Woods and the golf,
where his fame raised the level for everybody. Tide lift
all but because there are people that weren't diehard golf
fans and suddenly we're watching golf simply because of the
presidence of Tiger Woods. And ultimately the players accepted that,
and you know, they may have been a little resistant
that one guy was getting all the attention, but after
a while they realized, Wow, this is to our benefit

(39:16):
as well, and all of a sudden they celebrated Tiger
instead of trying to fight him. But we're still not
celebrating apparently, the Caitlin Clark situation. I want to get
your thoughts just on, you know, the Indiana Fever coach
and some of the comments that she's made. Obviously, the
commissioner of the WNBA, remember this is still a league
that's totally bankrolled by the NBA and the NBA owners.

(39:37):
They probably thought, finally we got something that is going
to turn this league around in our favor, and they
seem to be fighting against it.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
What has been your whole thought process through this entire thing.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Well, there's this thing, right, anypr is is good pure,
and I would argue that right now, at this moment
in time, the WNBA is like the fourth most talked
about professional sport in the United State States, right, But
a lot of times the discourse around the game is
created this little funnel of people who have never watched

(40:10):
one WNBA game. It's attracting all these people for various reasons.
It could be discussions about racism, transgender athletes, just headlines
that are really distracting, right, And so I go back
and forth, like, it's really great to see the WNBA
headlining major news outlets, but the reason we're talking about it,

(40:34):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Like it, right, instead of talking about the game itself.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I mean, I've always said this, let the women perform
if you want to watch their watch, right, as simple
as that. You don't need this outside pace, and they
seem to be exasperating it right now, right, all right,
So I want to get a little more into this
at the top of the r because obviously there's a
couple of people that want to become WNBA players and

(40:59):
we understand, and the reason to try to get the
publicity out of it that plus.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
We got a lot more NFL news with the preseason
rolling along.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Keep it right here.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
This is Fox Sports Saturday. Here's a short time ago.

Speaker 10 (41:16):
On the Chicago Bears telecast of their preseason game against
the Cleveland Browns, Bears owner George McCaskey reiterated that the
team will be moving to a new stadium in Hammond, Indiana, saying, quote,
the clarity is we're moving forward in Hammond unquote. The
telecast even showed video of one of the potential sites

(41:38):
in Hammond, as McCaskey pointed out that the Chicago skyline
was still visible off in the distance. On the field,
the Bears lead the Browns seventeen to ten. Midway through
the third quarter. Deshaun Watson started a quarterback for Cleveland
eleven to fifteen for one to twenty six in the
first half. Shador Sanders three to four for sixty three yards.
In the second half, Bill is a thirteen to seven

(42:01):
lead over Carolina. Late in the third quarter, the New
York Giants up ten to six over the Minnesota Items
with four to go in the third quarter. I'm Isaac
loh and cron.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
All right, rolling along here, another busy sports Saturday, Fox
Sports Saturday.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Bye Sports Saturday.

Speaker 7 (42:19):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Well, we're in for Jonas today and hanging out here
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(42:41):
full show posted right after we get off the air.
By the way, that story that just broke there about
the owner of the Bears, McCaskey, going on and on
about moving into a new stadium and hamming Indy.

Speaker 7 (42:53):
And Indiana Bears, Well, we have the Kansas City Chiefs
leaving to move to Kansas in Kansas City, Kansas as
a pagain city. There's nothing about any of this that
I like.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Okay, so I want to break it down with you again.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
We have seen the NFL put pressure on these franchises
to essentially update their stadiums no less than every twenty years.
Think about Atlanta. When I mean again, I always date myself,
but I mean the reality is, working in the eighties
with the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
You should be proud of your history.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Well I am proud of it. But a lot of
people say, don't talk about the past. I will because
that's the way I operate. But when I work for
the Raider organization, almost every single stadium that I went
to in those four and a half years that I
work with the Raiders does not exist anymore.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
I mean whether it's the Kingdome or Mile High Stadium
or the old original Patriots Stadium.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I mean I could go up in the Orange Bowl
in Miami.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
I want there many times.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Maybe the only one Lambo is the only one I went.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
To that's still around. I mean Arrowhead obviously I went
too many times. That's going to be gone now. The
Candlestick Park in San Francisco gone. The Astrodome still exists,
they just don't use it anymore. I went there in
Houston any many times. I mean I can go down
the list. RFK Stadium gone for Washington d C. Some

(44:25):
of the other stadiums that went to the Metrodome, how
about the Silver Dome, I went to both those places
don't exist anymore. So it is a constant change. So
where I told you told you I don't really care
all that much for uniform numbers. There are history. I
went to Municipal Stadium in Cleveland, the old mistake by
the Lake. I mean, these old stadiums were bad. I

(44:48):
went to Soldier Field before they had the lunar modules
sort of land in it with the upgrade. I mean
when I went to Soldier Field, originally it was like
the old Soldier Field there in Chicago. But this idea
of building these new stadiums constantly really is coming out
of a threat from the NFL that if you want

(45:08):
to keep your franchise, you will build new stadiums. I mean,
the idea of remembered this. The city of San Francisco
voted to build a downtown stadium and.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
They never delivered on it.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
And next thing you know, they got a stadium in
Santa Clara, which is an hour drive away from San Francisco,
that is the home of the San Francisco forty nine ers.
All Right, so I've said my piece, why are you
so bothered by this? Nikki?

Speaker 7 (45:35):
Well?

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Also, aren't all these stadiums evolving to be domes now?

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Too? Sure?

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I don't like that football is an outside sport. Make
it outside like there's certain aura and elements that you
think of with each team. Right, I want to see
people freezing in Arrowhead in January. I don't want to
see sterile spaceship environments. That's what SOFI Stadium feels like. Granted,

(46:01):
fantastic venue to watch World Cup matches and it's it
is beautiful, but it just doesn't have the character in
the history. And I know some Kansas City fans who
are so bummed and so upparel.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
That is such a great state, right and has been
for over fifty years.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Soldier Field. Why are you taking the Bears out of Chicago.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Because they won't do the upgrades necessary to keep that stadium.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
It's absurd, it's so it's it's an injustice to the
fans of the sport. But you know it's the cash cow.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
You think that Chicago fans won't go to ham in
Indiana to watch a game, course they will.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Yeah, what do you feel about it?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Well, I mean, look, I'm a history buff, so when
I would go to a lot of these stadiums, there
was a lot of history involved in these stadiums that
I appreciate. But people don't care about that stuff anymore.
They just don't. But there are there are people that
do care, but they overwhelming majority of the people that
hang on to me, I always hear about this.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
It's like when USC ended their rivalry of Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I guess they're gonna pick it up for four years
starting in twenty thirty but only for four years, you know,
and they're like the new set will say, well, I'm like,
rivalries is what makes sports. I mean there's history there.
And their response is, well, you make new rivalries.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
That No, I just yeah, I think about it in
the context. Let's say the Dodgers decided I would I
would be so upset. That's a ballpark that you walk in.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Well, you have Wrigley Field in the fmly Dodger Statium.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
By the way, there is the third oldest ballpark in
Major League eighty two nineteen sixty two. They open it up.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Look, I got some histories, teeth, look at that.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
You know that, But I mean, can you imagine the
if they took a wrecking ball to Wrigley Field or
Famiway Park.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I might just quit on sports in general?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (48:00):
We've lost the plot. I just think the Yeah, I
think football and the elements.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Oh we got Yes.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I love Nicky and Steve.

Speaker 10 (48:08):
NICKI, since you brought up this thing about the Dodgers
hypothetically leaving for a new stadium, leaving at least the
downtown LA area, Steve, can you briefly because there are
parallels here with the Dodgers in LA, the bear situation
at Hamlet. Do you remember the Los Angeles Raiders flirtation

(48:29):
with Irwin Dale?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
All right, so I was obviously working with the Raiders
at the time. Here's what happened there. So when the
Raiders moved from Oakland to Los Angeles into the Coliseum
which had been vacated by the Rams because the Rams
moved Anaheim. Okay, and p Roseau was a commissioner of
the NFL at the time. He really he had roots
with the Rams organization. He had roots in LA went

(48:51):
to Compton High School, as a matter of fact, and
he wanted to sort of take control of that LA market.
And Al Davis think about this. Al moves the Raiders.
You know, I'd have to get approval of the owners.
The owners unanimously voted against them to move, and he said,
screw you, I'm moving into the coliseum. Coliseum is excited.
We're going to not just get an NFL team, We're

(49:12):
going to get the Raiders. And their second year they
win the Super Bowl. So things were really looking good
at that point, though. All the promises about upgrades with
the coliseum, which by the way, had been hosted the
nineteen eighty four Olympic Games, and there was still a
track at that time and everything else, but they werenegged
on all their promises. So at that point al Davis

(49:33):
was thinking, all right, well, let's find an option. And
there was a guy named zaev Hermasilio. He was the voice.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
The guy met him many times.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
And out in Irwindale, out near Standan need out there
there was this open area and they proposed a stadium
out there and they even handed non refundable ten million
dollars to the Raiders. By the way, that money was
used to sign Bo Jackson. That's how boja with the
Raiders with that money. And I remember they we did

(50:04):
a whole thing that they were going to build a stadium.
They actually dug a sort of a hole for the foundation.
That hole sat there for many many years. It never
went away. Then they were trying to negotiate with Hollywood
Park at that time. In fact, the place where Sofi
Stadium now sits used to be the racetrack Hollywood Park,
and they were negotiating with that. When all those deals

(50:26):
fell apart, that's when the Raiders ended up leaving LA
and moving back back to Oakland. And now they're in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
But think about that.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
I never thought we'd be talking about Erwindale on.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
National Wndale was that close to be in the home
of the LUSS And if they had built that stadium,
the Raiders would never have left La.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
For Erwindale Raiders.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
What about the Cowboys? Where do they play? Do they
play in Dallas? No? Is it Arlington?

Speaker 3 (50:56):
The Arlington Cowboys?

Speaker 1 (50:58):
The Arlington Cowboys. Do the New York Giants or the
New York Jets play in New York? No?

Speaker 3 (51:05):
You wanna know my favorite one is the Los Angeles
Angels of Anaheim.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
No place.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
That was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
So the reality is that most of these teams do
not actually play in the cities that bear their name,
of course, but there's only one team that plays in
the state of New York, and that is the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
But how cool is it to have the Soldier Field?

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I know that see what you see, you feel a
connection to the history of that stadium. I get the
I certainly get that, Nikki, but a lot of people don't.
They're just like, hey, shiny new toy, a new place.
But I mean, you can you imagine, seriously, if they
took a wrecking ball to Wrigley Field or Family Park.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Like no, No, that would be no. I might actually
quit sports. Maybe I'll pick up weather traffic. Could I
do traffic?

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Steve, Look anyone that's into sports. And if you're listening
right now, you're a sports person. You would not be
listening to us if you're not a sports person. Okay,
we get it. And history, it's history plays a big
bearing on us becoming sports fans. It's passed down by
you know, people that are our parents or you know,

(52:23):
relatives or friends or some reason that you get hooked
into sports. And for those of us who are sports
fans fortunate enough to actually make a living doing this.
I don't know about you, Nikki. I know you you're
a reporter that you've done a lot of different things,
and you're still new career compared to mine. But I

(52:46):
never cease to be a fan. I make it very
clear that there are teams. I like their teams. I
don't like that. I'm never going to like. And to me,
sometimes I look at the term sports journalists almost as
an oxymoron, and I'm like, if you wanted to be
a journalist, I don't know if there are any journalists
these days. Everyone just has opinions and that's fine, but

(53:07):
don't label yourself something or not. If you chose sports
as where you want to go, that's because well you'll
have sports period. I like the stories, well that's part
of it, absolutely, and I know you like to the
great thing. It can be It can be a curse.
I don't know about you as far as this getting

(53:30):
to know people in this industry, Athletes, anybody you know,
were you well, you grew up knowing them and all
of a sudden, you're they know you now and they're humanized.
How has that worked for you over the years where
you have humanized people that you didn't you almost thought
of them? Is you know, you know these warriors whatever

(53:53):
they are, these athletes, and then when you actually work
with them and get to know them on a human basis,
how does that change the dynamic or does it for you?

Speaker 7 (54:02):
Well?

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I used to be Let's say I'm going live in
an interview and you have anywhere between ninety to forty
seconds of dead air before you're standing right beside this person,
right before they toss to you. And it could be anyone.
I could be doing a court side interview with a
celebrity at the gay game, or I could be waiting
to do a walk off and you're standing right there.

(54:23):
And I used to treat it so professionally and you know,
don't say anything, don't you know, wait till they toss
to you. Then conduct the interview. And I learned that
the magic and the humanity of the moments and the
rapport you can build is in those seconds before you're
actually on camera and you just talk to the person
like they're an actual, real person. And that to me

(54:45):
has been the new evolution of understanding. You know, they're
just everyone's just a person too, and they want connection,
they want to feel comfortable, and when they do feel
that everything sounds better, it comes a cross more genuine.
And I think that that relatability, and like you said,

(55:06):
the humanity in it is why we do what we do,
and when it's on display, it's the magic.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah. I think the greatest compliment I've gotten over the
years from some athletes that I've known for a long time.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Is a certain trust factor. And again I would treat
it like anybody else.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
I mean I trust well, yeah, I mean if somebody
is a friend of mine and I have shared things
both ways, that we're sharing this because we're friends and
it's not to be used outside of that.

Speaker 7 (55:44):
You know.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
That's I had an athlete drop an F bomb at
me on live TV for no fault of my own.
They were just it was a kind of a Kobe moment, right,
and I just you know, ended the interview and my
boss to me, you know, as a you know, in
that position, you did everything you possibly could. But they
did feel that the athlete owed me an apology for

(56:07):
putting me in that position because they were just athletes.
They apologize, came around and apologized, and I just said, hey,
you know, listen, I understand how you were feeling, and
I want to put you in the best light possible
always I'm part of your broadcast. I'm not here, you know,
ever to pick apart. It was after a win too.

(56:29):
That was I think the most shocking thing, and they
you know, that was what I related. I just I
want you to know that you can trust me at
all costs, and I think our relationship was stronger because
of that. But you just got to keep reminding that
you are a trustworthy component of their story.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
With that being said, I'm going to betray a trust
on the other side, Okay, the Lakers are sold again.
What exact what exactly happened here? I've been digging a
little bit. I've been poking around a little bit.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Steve Hartman investigative journalists.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
I don't know about that. I know a couple people.
I'm gonna share what I think I know.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Spill the t Steve, spill the tea.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
On the other side, this is Fox Sports Saturday, Hartman
and k Yeah, Fox Quan.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Hartman, spill the teaste.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I have been right. Before we get to that, I
have to mention we're watching the Bears Browns preseason game.
Chador Sanders, please, I mean, by the way, I Deshaun
Watson was something like nine out of ten out of
the box. Today they just showed I just watched two plays.
The first play on Shador Sanders was knocked down at

(57:53):
the line of scrimmage. His second pass was overthrown by
I don't know five yards right into the arms of
a Bears defender.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
And you were just telling me the Bears don't have
a defense.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Well, I'll tell you what. Everyone's got a defense when
Shardor Sanders is on the field. Wow, Burn Boom roasted
you know this is not a personal thing. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
He made a Pro Bowl last year.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
That's my favorite. Yeah, you realize he had the fourth
lowest QBR of any quarterback with enough attempts to qualify
over the last twenty years, fourth lowest QBR.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Are we cool with Deshaun Watson just playing again?

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I don't know if it's cool, but they're paying him,
so you might as well get something out of it.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
No one's going to pick up that contract.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Although, although think about this, if you're the Browns and
the course, no one expects the Browns to do anything
this year. You gutted the team.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
He got rid of Miles Garrett and everything else, and
you played to Shan Watson.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
He plays okay, and that team like the Rams, let's
say Matthew Stafford goes down.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
I have a problem as a sports fan.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
With the person.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Yes, I'm a little more callous about you.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Yeah you're a man. Well thank you. Yeah, I'm not
forgiving him for anything. It's just the fact that but
you're forgetting it. But he can still play the game.
You're forgetting. It's not a matter of forgetting. I just
like if I have a hole to phill and the

(59:40):
guy can still play. I'm gonna throw him out there.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
You're forgetting convenient, all right, you want to hear convenience,
I'll tell you the Lakers. This is what I've been
waiting for you. I don't really want to talk about
the Deshaun Watson thing. I don't know why I brought
it up.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
That's okay. Well I brought it up because I was
watching Shudor Sanders look awful. Okay, So this literally comes
out of nowhere, right, folks. The Guggenheim Group, led by
Mark Walter, by the Lakers, and by the way, paid
ten billion dollars for a franchise not even worth.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Half that ten billion.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
I mean, it was like, where do you come up
with that number?

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Ten billion? For the Lakers?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Money's fake?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Okay. You see, you're already a step ahead. Nicky knows
this business really well. Okay, you're right about that. The
ten billion was fake money to begin with. Mark Walter
doesn't have ten billion dollars. I mean, theoretically, on paper,
the Gugenheim Group is worth three hundred and fifty billion dollars.
But this is not real money that we're talking.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
About here, because he already had shares that were already
that he bought in at what five billion or two billion?
When he whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I know, it's not like he's got ten billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Okay, he's the he's the front guy of the Google hanger.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
And then they can always the question is, okay, well,
if it's not his money, where's this money coming from.
Well we just doubled down on that with this sale
of twelve billion dollars. So the Ameina reaction was, wait
a second, you just bought the team fourteen months ago,
and actually it's been less than a year since the

(01:01:23):
league actually approved this. It's been ten months, and so
people are like, he just flipped the team for two
billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Well, I said I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Would sell my dignity for two billion dollars? Is that
too callous of meat to say?

Speaker 10 (01:01:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
You can. You can say anything to want. I'm not
going to stop you. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
So you're like, well, that's a hell of a business deal, right.

Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
Right, but.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Twenty five percent?

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
But in ten months, is Mark Walter pocketing two billion dollars?

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
No, No, he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Also, when I got that alert this week, I like,
I put my I had to double check ago, what
do you mean the Lakers are being sold.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Okay, let's let's let's back up a little bit here.
So when and I look at I bought into the
idea of this is a good sale. I knew that
the Lakers are going to go nowhere. And I love Genie.
I've known Genie Bus a long time. I'm a Genie
Bus fan. I have nothing against the Bus family.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Her father, visionary I changed the landscape of professionals.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Changed everything everything. And doctor Buss was a character to
the core, but was the probably the most single important
person in the history of the NBA. He changed everything everything,
And so I had a lot of admiration for doctor Buss,
even if he was a poor man's Hugh Hefner. He

(01:02:46):
played that game, and there's there was a lot of
behind scenes stuff then I will never divulge, But anyway,
so uh, and Jeanie was very as very much her
dad's daughter and so, but there was no way the
dynamic of the Bus family in the vision of their
father was going to coexist like that. It just was
never going to happen. So she ends up selling And

(01:03:08):
why wouldn't you sell ten billion dollars? You're gonna give
me ten billion dollars ten billion.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Dollars, really sure, and the Lakers were being outrun in
terms of they were there a family owned mom and
pop shop.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
One hundred percent exactly run his a mom and pops.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
They couldn't keep up with the Steve Bahmers of the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Correct. So I'm thinking to myself, well, this is a
good thing for the Lakers, and I was really trumpeting
this is a positive because we know what the Guggenheim
group can do, and we've seen it with the Dodgers,
but the dynamics of Major League Baseball and the dynamics
of the NBA are completely different because you have a
salary cap in the NBA. So from a business standpoint,

(01:03:49):
one of the reasons this deal was made is I
think that Mark Walter and his group were realizing there
were limitations on exactly what they could do beyond what
they expected. The luxury tax in the NBA is step,
it is steep, and so I think they were a
little bit frustrated in trying to put this together around

(01:04:13):
Luka Doncic in exactly what their vision was and what
was actually the dynamic of what they could actually do.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Meaning you can't come in and operate like it's a
Major League Baseball correct.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
And I think that they're thinking was where there's always
a way around it. In other words, there's always ways
to figure out to work around. I mean, obviously when
you think about how they would the Dodgers, and they
just started getting deferred payments all these players, right, I mean,
next year, supposedly Kyle Tucker is going to be making
eighty one million dollars. Well, he's not making eighty one

(01:04:51):
million dollars. He's got deferred payments are going to go
on forever and ever. Same thing with Edwin Diaz. Obviously
the sho Heyo Tani deal. Do that in the NBA
doesn't work that way.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Yes, So, Steve, I'm not buying this angle from you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Well, that's not the only reason.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Okay, this is part of the part of the fracture,
part of the fracture, the crack that was beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
All right. So let's let's talk about who ponied up
twelve billion dollars fake money again, whether it's Bob Eiger
or Kushner, this is fake money. These people don't have
that kind of mine.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
I only say his last name because I never want
to say the brother by accident.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yes, you know this is Josh Kushner, the younger brother Jered.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Yes, and their father obviously is the ambassador hired by
the president of two countries. Actly, But no, they don't
have that money either. So this gets back to a
much bigger dynamic of the NBA itself.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Where the league's going right now with.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
The weird does all this money come in for the NBA? Well,
we know China is banking a lot of the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
It has for years.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
China money is really financing the NBA for those that
go to China.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
The NBA is everywhere everywhere, So the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Idea of infusing more fake money into the league. And
by the way, when you put a price tag on
a team, it raises the value of every other team.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
When Steve Bomber paid four times market value, it paid
two billion dollars for a Clippers team that would have
a market value of a half a billion at.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
The time five hundred million dollars. Then he bought it
from Donald Stirling. Raised the bar for everybody. Right now,
you think, wow, two billion dollars, right, twelve billion dollars yep.
So to me, this is and everyone's talking about all
this legal stuff that you know, Googling, High Group and
everything else is involved with again, and this is why

(01:06:59):
Dodger fans will Is he going to have to sell
the Dodgers?

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Do you think so?

Speaker 7 (01:07:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
No, again, Mark Walter is a face representing a company.
This is not a guy sitting there with three hundred
billion dollars in his pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
He is a face of a corporation that is making
business deals for their own benefit that involves professional sports teams.
And now the Lakers have gotten caught up in this.
Now I want to do a full investigation on exactly

(01:07:37):
where this twelve billion dollars is coming from.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Where is this I don't see Goggenheim Group, what is this?

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Is this Disney? Is this ESPN?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I mean where where is this on the Bob Eiger side?

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
And is the Kusher side? Is there a connection to
I don't know the President of the United States, because
there obviously is a connection, but being the Kushner family
and the Trump family. So the NBA to me has
a lot of explaining to do on exactly the dynamic
of this business deal before. By the way, it hasn't
been approved yet. I mean, we still have to get

(01:08:10):
the approval of the owners. But I want a more
detailed dynamic of the total actual finances of the NBA
and where exactly this money is.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
This is accountant Steve Hartman reporting for duty. I thought
you were going to give us some salacious.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Tea, Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
The bottom line is is that this was purely a
business deal.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Yeah, but I do believe that there was frustration on
the part of Mark Walter and his group of Dodgers.
I mean, they were all the Dodger executives that they
can't pull off what they are hoping to do based
on the restrictions of the NBA. I'm I'm but how
did this twelve billion dollars come out of nowhere?

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Well, they had been pooling their resources to buy the
Vegas team. They were they were in the running for
the Vegas bid, and then they I think, I think,
I don't. I don't think Walter bought the Laker, bought
into the Lakers, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Right, hang on, I want to hear you on the
other side of this. I've said what I had to say.
You were thoroughly unimpressed. Now let's find out what's trending
right now. Now, another guy that has deep connections with
the Laker organization, that, of course is Isaac long cron
By the way, you used to broadcast their gains from
the rafters.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Kobe's, including Kobe's eighty one point game.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Now you do.

Speaker 10 (01:09:35):
Actually I was actually up in the rafters just to
avoid you. But what's the point in what's the point
of going back and only state? In fact, wasn't it
you who once said, and I quote, I think the
Lakers can take it unquote.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Yes, Sonya steer the show. I think the Lakers can
win it, win it, win it.

Speaker 10 (01:09:51):
Yes, Sorry, Nikki, I just can't resist agitate a hameo on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
The TV show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Yet I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Keep poking the bear doesn't take much to wind well.

Speaker 10 (01:10:00):
Speaking of the Bears, a short time ago, on the
Chicago Bears telecast or their preseason game against the Cleveland Browns,
Bears owner George McCaskey reiterated the team's plans to build
a new stadium in Hammond, Indiana, saying, quote, the clarity
is we're moving forward in Hammond unquote. The telecast even
showed video of one of the potential stadium sites in Hammond,

(01:10:23):
as McCaskey pointed out that the Chicago skyline was still
visible off in the distance well Steven Nicky. Some Bears
fans on social media, however, felt the video did not
exactly make Hammond look like the French Riviera at light
Kojak commenting, quote that was so unconvincing. What's appealing about

(01:10:45):
moving to where a bunch of refinery vats are unquote?

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
And then there was at.

Speaker 10 (01:10:50):
Suburban Jesus who added quote a month ago, I was
in Hammond in the area is as dreadful as everyone says.
For the game, Speaking of dreadful, the Bears lead the
Cleveland Browns twenty four to ten with about nine minutes
left on the fourth quarter. Now, Deshaun Watson started eleven
to fifteen for one to twenty six played the first half.

(01:11:12):
Shador Sanders then came in six out of eleven for
seventy nine yards. He was intercepted by Beanie Bishop and
Chicago scored a touchdown. Two players later, Dylan Gabriel then
came in and he was intercepted by Beanie Bishop. So
two interceptions for Beanie Bishop of the Bears. Talk about
a literation anyway. The Minnesota Vikings up thirteen to ten

(01:11:34):
over the New York Giants. Four minutes into the fourth quarter,
Vikings started. Kyler Murray quarterback completed two of three for
ten yards. JJ McCarthy then came in. He went four
out of seven for thirty four yards the Buffalo Bills,
leaving the Carolina Panthers twenty two to seven six minutes
left to play in the fourth quarter. Josh Allen started
the game six of eight for one to eleven, including

(01:11:55):
a nine yard touchdown pass to Keon Coleman. Seattle Seahawks
cornerback Devin with A Spoons agreed to we all four year,
one hundred and thirty two million dollar extension and makes
him the highest paid cornerback in NFL history. Finally, Steve
and Nikki, remember earlier we told you about this Saint
Louis Cardinals prospect named Joshua Biaz The first pitch he

(01:12:16):
sees in the major leagues today at Wrigley Field against
the Cubs, he hits for a home run. Here's what
happened when he came to the plate for the second
time in his major league career in the fourth inning
with Chip carry On Cardinals TV Swell get.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
A trumph down the line.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Did he do it again? That ball is gone.

Speaker 10 (01:12:34):
He's got two homers, Joshua Biaz remember the name. Two
major league at bats, two home runs at Wrigley for
the Cardinals, will lead the Cubs four to three on
the top of the fifth.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Back to you, guys, homered in his first two major
league at bats?

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Is that what you're telling me?

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
That's what I told you, babe.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (01:12:54):
Now, now you're supposed to be with your computer like mine.
You're supposed to say that happened back in nineteen thirty four.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
I do know burg cabanieras ad two home runs in
his first major league game. There we go, all right,
Thank you, Isaac as always. By the way, with the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever you are.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Catch us in all of our Fox Sports Radio shows
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Just search Fox Sports Ready and the app to stream
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your screen. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeart app to listen live. All right, So I want
to hear from you Nikki, your theory exactly why this

(01:13:35):
deal went down, what happened to Googenhein's vision of the future,
and who'd exactly did they sell it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Well, I just think you look at the way things
went down over the past ten months. There was integration
happening between the Dodgers and Lakers, and that was the
intention to have to have these two franchises kind of
operate as one unit. The movement, the hirings, the integration
that was being done. It didn't feel like this was

(01:14:05):
this move, this purchase by the Walt by Walter and
the Guggenhein group. It had no inclinations of being a flip, right,
which is ultimately what it ended up being. Uh, you know,
flip And I feel that maybe and who knows. You

(01:14:25):
look at Agar and Kushner, who were well in the
queue for a bid at the Vegas expansion team, that's
hypothetical as of right now. They might have gotten word
of and uh, you know that Walter could be looking,
could be in distress, and they this this all happened

(01:14:50):
so quickly, so I think they pivoted and made a
very aggressive bid towards Walter, a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Bid that doesn't make any sense twelve billion dollars for
the Lakers. Really have they checked that down?

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
But why did Walter went out?

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Well, if you believe it, if you believe what they're
just trying to sell you, it's the idea that he's
got legal problems right now and he needed the cash.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Well, I think you're believing what they're trying to sell you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I'm not believing it. That's what they're trying to sell,
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
You've told you what I believe, but that you're going
to tell me they bought an NBA franchise without knowing
the limitations of owning an.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
NBA I don't think they thought they had any limitations,
to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
That's so that's too NICI.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
There's what there isn't a level of arrogance when you
get to that. There is a level of arrogance that everybody.
We just show the world what we could do with
the Dodgers, we can certainly do the same thing with
the Lakers. No, well, I know, I know, no, I
knew no when they bought it. That you're barking up
the wrong tree. If you think that you can pull
off what you did with the Dodgers with the Lakers.

(01:16:02):
It's a completely different set of rules, all right. On
the other side, we'll continue on here, coming down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Nikky, we're just getting started.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
You keep it here. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harman,
Nikki Kay here in the Fox Sports radio studios having
fun today, filling in for Jonas.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
He's been doing a.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Lot of Little league stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
Fun.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah, I remember those days of my kids. That's all consumed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
I have three of them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
You know, the balls are equal, that is true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
So all sounded really inappropriate. Well it was.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
I'm not hitting the balls at least a dozen times
by six year olds.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
M I'm done with balls period. I will say this
as a parent when you have kids, young kids, sports
and you always tell you so, I'm not gonna be
one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
The problem for me is my voice is really loud.
It just carries, it just carries.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
It just cares.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
How many fights and umps did you get in?

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
I didn't have too on the side they could hear
me from any I remember a game my younger son, Garrett,
he's left handed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
As am I, and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
He was pitching and here his team has a one
run lead final inning. And he's a very low key kid.
He was never even very demonstrative. And he's throwing pitches
to a hitter that's just sitting there with the bat

(01:17:48):
on his shoulder. He's not swinging at anything. And this
umpire is squeezing this strike zone something fierce and he
ends up calling ball four on a pitch that was
like down the middle, and I am just ballistic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Gary's just stand on the man, throw me the ball.
Next batter hits.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
The hits a ground ball, routine ground ball to our
all star shortstop who was the son of the coach
of the team, who promptly threw it away to run
score when we lose the game. I went after that umpire.
I think I knew the guy. Also, I don't know.

(01:18:29):
It's hard to contain myself on that kind of situation.
I'm glad those days are over. So we were just
discussing again on this whole Laker thing. My concern is
about this, about the whole Laker dynamic. If I'm Luka Doncic,

(01:18:49):
I sort of wonder what's going on here.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
You know, he's had five ownership groups in the past
two years.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
That's right, Yeah, so yeah, the MAVs are sold yep,
And rumors are they were leaving Dallasmimmer they were, Yeah,
so yeah, that would be my first question is I'm like, okay,
and I love this. Both Kushner and Iger came out

(01:19:15):
with a joint statement saying, oh, we've we've been NBA
fans our.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Whole life, likes at Lakers games. I've seen him there before.
Now apparently Chris Paul might be in the mix.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
I heard that name mentioned in what respect?

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Igre's a big Chris Paul guy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
And Chris Paul is not a good guy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
And you know that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
I actually don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Oh I get along with Chris Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
No, I haven't. I've never gotten to cover him. No,
I've never I've never gotten.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
To cover him. He's one of those guys that created
an on off air persani. Remember the commercials he used
to do and everything with a twin and everything yemcials?
Listen him?

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Or was his brother who went in to the uh
that one the suicide forest and desecrated it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Oh wow, I didn't know about that when we go
in there.

Speaker 12 (01:20:07):
But they are they are basically banned from Japan for
a reason. Yeah, great player, I mean obviously, I'm I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. Chris Paul Garrett looked over at me like weirdly,
and I'm just like, not Logan Paul or Jake Paul
completely crossed.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
I thought you were talking about Cliff Paul from the commercials.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
I was like, okay, where are you right now?

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Where I am as hungry right now? And I saw
you bring in foods to eat the food and someone.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Who thought the uh, the Russell Westbrook retirement was a
Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Entire, like in the forest, like Chris Paul is in
a forest? Wow, like Cliff from is that story?

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
I want to know more?

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Okay, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
And on that note, congratation.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
That would be my only concern for the the actual
team because you made all these changes, you moved on
from Lebron James and everything else. Everything seems to be said,
you've hired your new staff. I don't know what Lon
Rosen's going to do. We may have the shortest run
of any president in the history of the NBA, because
well he's had new bosses. Now, I doubt that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
What do you think, yeah, what do you think is
going to happen with Pelinka magic.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Well, I mean essentially all the Dodger people are removed now, Yeah,
so all the people that Polinka was having to go
through to make any deal have been taken off the table.
So now who's going to answer Chris Paul? Not Logan, Yeah,
Chris Paul, He's gonna have to answer to him. Now,
is Genie still around? These are just the kind of

(01:21:39):
crazy stories, But this is a dynamic of the sports
we're working with. Right now, you have an answer for
the Lakers. I only have questions, only questions. Well, we
can't answer any more questions because our times

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