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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We have boots on the ground all over the United
States of America, in La at the Wooden Award, in
Miami with Israel Goodie Eras, and in Baltimore me boots
on the ground. I wanted to make sure that Lamar
Jackson did indeed show up to the voluntary workout, and
I had to see it with my own eyes and
his he I am here to report that he did.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Wow with your size. I was actually doing some watching
of things going on in Maryland as well, because I
saw Maryland versus Northwestern lacrosse game was on some sort
of CBS network and I said.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Let me see. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I was like, let me see if I can find
I was going to say a wiener, but let me
see if I can find Steve Gotts in the crowd
and the crowd wasn't that let's say, impressive, but I
still couldn't find it because they didn't zoom in.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, that's on Maryland.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I mean, you bring that game to Northwestern and there'll
be ten thousand fans out there cheering on the Northwestern Wildcat.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So if anything, that's on, Uh, that's on Maryland.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Who claims they love lacrosse so much, yet when a
big game appears right in their backyard, no one shows
up to it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Go ahead, Mikey Taylor.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
The yesterday's show much better, right, Jess the start of
the show, like, yeah, already, I miss sal.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yah, yeah, listen, you volunteered to talk. I didn't go
to you. You volunteered to talk. I know with Sally,
you didn't talk for the first six or seven minutes
of the show. I'm getting tired of Sally. I gotta
be honest with you right now. And by the way,
I'm so tired of him. He joined us on the
podcast today.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I got a debrief.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, listen. I spoke to Mikey a this morning.
Had a very important conversation. Things to discuss with my
friend because I trust him and because he cares about me,
and he started that conversation knowing it was an important conversation, saying, listen,
I think me sal A Taylor, we've got a podcast.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Going to do.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
What are we going to do?
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What am I going to do?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
The Masters is going on right now. We're gonna have
mel kiper Junior joining us as well. But Israel Goodi
Eires was the judge at a poetry con contest recently.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Who'd you do it for? Is he? Who was it for?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's a program called Louder Than a Bomb and it's
you know, poetry, it's high school and middle school kids
reading original poetry. Yeah, it's it's a lot of fun.
In fact, I'm doing another one, judging another one on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
All right, you're gonna judge another one right now, because
we decided here on this show that it would be
a good idea for all of us to write poems
and for Israel Goudieirez, who was an expert in poetry,
for him to judge these.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Are you good with that?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I'm so great with this, But I did not notice
this was coming. I'm very excited about this. I will
say that I hope in tone that your poems are
just a little happier than some of these kids poems
because his high school in middle school. Man, are they
sad about stuff?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So listen yesterday with Salikata, he came out hot, you know,
throwing some heat six or seven minutes on dexter Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I think I can't do six or seven minutes on anything.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, And so I'm back here and here we are
doing poetry.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean, I'm sorry, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Let's go to mikey A first of putting him in
a bad spot here, but he put me in a
bad spot by bailing on me and being, you know,
falling in love with Sal. So, mikey A, you're gonna
go first. Everyone's gonna read their poems, is he? And
then you have to rank them. Okay, that's what you
have to do. Before we get to melkiper junior.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You can snap.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
That's what I was getting you there.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And there could be a college basketball player popping up
at any time. I have no idea. That's what we do.
That's how we roll what you got. Sal Let's go,
mikey A. Mikey A, you are up first, Go ahead,
so confused.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
My poem is entitled the Worst team. Ever, uh huh.
I root for a team.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That I wish I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I wasn't smart, a bad student. They cause me hurt,
they cause me pain, but I keep coming back like
I'm insane. My lofty goals are more simpler than they sound.
Just one time, I would love to be playoff bound.
I see players come, I see players go, yet I
remain taking each painful blow. They win in Seattle, they
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win in the Bay of Green, But a championship is
something I've never seen.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I cry tears.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
They fill this space.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I hate Woody Johnson. I hate his stupid face.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I could blame my brother, blame Tom Brady, I could
even blame Stu Gotts. You know that guy is shady.
But in the end, I should accept my fate. Let
the losing cover me as I begin to suffocate. For
it is foretold that the only Jets that will win
a chip and tap that victory keg will come from
Canada and the little town of Winnipeg.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Snap, Snap, Snap? Is that what you do for poetry? Snap?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
If it's a good line in it, you can snap
during the good line A little long. However, my favorite
part of it, and this speeds to the length is
I could feel your pain. I could definitely feel the
emotions coming out. I don't know how legal the music is,
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but I think for the audience I like the music,
that's fine. A little sing song y, you know, little
sing song y, a little kind of Doctor seussish, but
over my only you'll complaint. So far, the scoring system
is somewhere between like one and ten. Obviously, nobody's gonna
score like below a five or six. So I give
that a solid eight point one.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Okay, but you're supposed to just rank him towards the end.
I didn't know you were gonna, you know, turn into
Simon Cowell on us. I mean, this is this is
a judge eight snaps.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Golf claps kind of like snaps. So it counts.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
All right, Let's go to bardot Ricardo. This is gonna
be great. He's gonna pry his eyes away from watching
baseball for a moment.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And read us a poem.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Though impressed with Lucas seventy three and seventy one points
by Dame still not second place all time like bam
ade Bio's eighty three point game. It wasn't disrespectful like
the Kobe Stans claim bam ade Bio's eighty three point game.
The national media called forty three free throws Corney and
said he should be ashamed and bam ade Bio's eighty
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three point game. But as a Heathan in the playing game,
I wish to go back to the glory and the
fame of bam out of Bio's eighty three point game.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I mean, I'm gonna snap forever.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I was really good talk about.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
A guy who knew how to go after the judge's heart.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Right, I'm still snapping.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Very thankful that that was the topic, and normally the
topic itself really hits the judges. That one, to me,
couldn't have done any better. I wish maybe we could
have rhymed out of Bio with something. I feel like
that's a nice challenge. But overall, I love the tone,
I love the voice, I love the it was great.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
The music was even better.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Give that a solid eight point three?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Whoa, whoa wow Wow ahead of Mikey, I mean, too
tense of a point.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Let's go out for ninety five. I might have given
him nine five.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Let's go out to ep Jason in Sherman Oaks.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
He has a poem here for Israel good areas, and
I understand why the guys wants outback.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
This poem is called not as lengthy as mikey A.
Take that whoever you want. How to build a farm.
There once was a farm in Iowa purchased by the NFL.
Roger Goodell was tasked to make owners lots of money,
something he does very well. One day, he asks, how
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do we quickly make lots of children to tend to
these chickens and pigs? Won't? Owner replied, Tyreek Hill is unavailable.
Let's get Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, it's exac no one.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I mean no, no, in large part because I had
no idea what the subject of that poem was.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I really don't know what.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You're yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
My interpretation was, I don't know what that was about.
So I'm going to get that one a seven point nine.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Wow, I mean I understood it. I would have given
it a nine point two. But that's you know, it's
easy's the judge.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
No swaying the judges.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
After you're done, let's go to update anchor Ike.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
This is very exciting, I am told Update Anchor Ike,
does indeed have a poem. I don't know if I
was Sam does, but someone will have to convey that
to me, and if he doesn't, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Uh, go ahead, update anchor.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Ike this one.
Speaker 9 (09:23):
Also on the shorter side, there was once a coach
named Vrabel to beat the Seahawks in the Super Bowl.
He was unable. He retreated to Sedona, where he was
allegedly not alone. But it's still better than if the
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Pats had hired Brian Dable.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Jesus throw a dead fish on my lap?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Why don't you, I mean, my god, bars, bars, I'm
not going to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
The score six point.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Nine, all right, let's go.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I am told that I always send now tailors in
a pickle because you know, I haven't spoken about Diana
Versiti yet shaken them.
Speaker 10 (10:14):
Yeah, we probably should have checked everybody's topics.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You should have for a friend them.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Listen, I'll tell you this on the front end of
any Diana Versini discussion I'm going to have. If the
athletic gets rid of her, she'll be sitting right next
to me. And is he doing the show? How does
that sound?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Okay? I support my friends.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I don't bail on my friends, especially at their worst
professional time in their history.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I don't do that to them.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Okay, I'm going to upgrade that to a seven point
zero because I'm just remembering rhyming Sedona with a loono. Yeah,
it's a seven point Oh yes, a great.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Do we have? I Sam, Yes, you do? We do?
He has a short one. He told me to better
be short short one.
Speaker 11 (10:53):
Here.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Okay, guys, here go, let's get the music going again.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Roses are red, violets are blue.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I forgot to do a poem. I had another show
to do.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Ah, Okay, the Stu Gods is strong in you.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Conflict of interest, Diana Russidi.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I mean this entire industry is littered with conflicts of interest.
Every single take that anyone makes is littered in conflict
of interest.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I don't want to hear about it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I spoke to her, Okay, she's going through a very
difficult time. She's going to survive this and again, anyone
who wants to get rid of her, I will hire
her in two seconds.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Let's go to Taylor Tailor. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
You are up here for poetry, Dight, Yes, a poem?
Oh yeah, where's my score?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I'm a little conflicted as it is, because that is
not I don't know how snapworthy it was. But I
also I'm kind of a fan of the roses a
red vehicle, so that one's going to get a seven
point one?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
All right, we'll go.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I'll take it because I made it up in about
five scards thirty lines, and he tried. I said, yeah,
that's exactly right, Mikey.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'll go ahead, Taylor.
Speaker 10 (12:00):
I once saw a woman so striking and round, with
a bounce in her step and a sway so profound.
She walked through the park with a confident glide, turning
each head as she strolled side to side. My brain said,
just keep walking. My feet said no chance, as I
fumbled my way into an awkward advance. So I stood
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there beside her, a bundle of sweat, and somehow just asked,
how do you fit everything in those pants?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Missus mett.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
My initial thought was it better be relevant that this
woman was round, because nobody is gonna be I could
see that as a compliment. But once I realized who
you were speaking of, and it was about halfway through
when I heard whatever rhymes with met, I thought it
was stellar. I'm gonna go ahead. And say based on
subject matter, based on delivery and length. M that's gonna
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go eight point five.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Wow, leader in the clubhouse, I believe right, Yes it
is that leaves me Yes, yep, all right. Mine is
short and sweet. Roses are red, violets are blue. I
love Salakata.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Don't you.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Missing?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I do?
Speaker 8 (13:24):
Miss it.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
By far the best subject matter of all Thank you,
because Sally is my man. Yeah, but it falls just
below Tailor's only because we already heard the roses are red.
Vehicle that gets an eight point four? Then said you
like the most I did.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I did quiz ten pages.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You could have said violets are slightly different colored rhyming
something else than blue, you know, but hey, no shame.
Eight point four is a good score.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
All right. I get eye for doing that. I appreciate it.
Thank you to all of you.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
That was my favorite portion of the show since it's exception.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yes, wow, we finally cater to you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
We did something that you wanted to do, which is
amazing because usually we.
Speaker 11 (14:12):
Don't be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson
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Speaker 1 (14:26):
The great Mel Kuiper is with us. We are getting
close to the draft. Mel is laughing already. I haven't
even said anything. I'm right by his house. He doesn't
know that, but I'm coming to visit in tonight.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Mel, I am coming for you.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
I have no room at the end for you.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
At the Kuiper in.
Speaker 12 (14:44):
Mel's diner is full.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
How is Mel Kuiper? You know, like a week and
a half out from the draft?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Are you like?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Are you even more racketed up than you normally? Are?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
I'm still talking which is a big thing at the
stage of the game.
Speaker 12 (14:58):
The boys hasn't gone quite yet. The day before the
draft last year and.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
I was able to recover somehow and got it back
in time for draft day. But no, I'm trying to
finalize the mock draft rounds one and two, which is
out Wednesday, then the ratings, which is the most important thing,
get my top one fifty in order, while my positional
rankings in order, and then basically finish up.
Speaker 12 (15:17):
With that next weekend. So I'm a week away from that.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I'm only a few days away from finalizing mock draft.
Mock round one and also two which makes it really interesting.
We're trying to connect the dots with the first and
second round. But that'll all be put to bed for
me Sunday night. It goes up Wednesday, barring any late changes,
I'll get to them Monday and Tuesday, and that's it.
I don't do any morning of the draft mocks, news
and notes that morning, but not no more mock draft.
Speaker 12 (15:41):
It ends on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's the final draft. That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Now's final draft. Yes, who's the player? Like, what's the
thing that's changed the most from.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
The last mock draft to this mock draft? Now?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I think Caden Proctor is such a wild card. I mean,
the offensive tackle from Alabama. Yeah, you put him at
six to Cleveland? Do you drop him down in the twenties.
Nobody really has a handle on a kid who has
he has a talent to be Orlando Pace. But he
didn't play like that, you know he has. That's some inconsistencies.
Go back to the Florida State game that began the
year was tough. He figured he recovered from that and
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he looked great at his protag So it makes you think, boy,
how many guys are six seven three point fifty two
they can move like him when it's light on his
feet as caton Proctor is, so he can be as
good as he you know, as good a cat and
Proctor wants to be focus, maximize, don't be an underachiever
in the NFL because the talent is there for him
to be a Pro Bowl caliber left tackle.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Mel You know, you know the draft starts with my
Jets at two. But Jesus, the Jets have have four
of the top forty four picks, and I'm just not
excited about it this year because I'm looking at this
I'm looking at this.
Speaker 12 (16:45):
Group of players and I'm going.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, they're they're good, but there's there's nobody that's getting
me excited.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Now change my mind, please, Well you want now to
make you feel better?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 6 (16:56):
He sees a scout, you know, they see nose more
than everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Whatever.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Thing that right, You're out there, right and off this
drafts as a D minus draft and there's nobody out there.
Sometimes the draft that you think are really good, sometimes
they fizzle once they're in the league and we say,
why don't you overhype that guy? You know, he didn't
live up to the to the all the potential he showed.
So I think it's this draft. You just got an
every draft, Mikey and so I got. You got to
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pick the right players. And you're back and say there
was a seventh round or a couple seventh rounders that
made in every draft, we cherry pick.
Speaker 12 (17:30):
We act like would have taken them. That's a tough
part of being a general manager.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
It's easy to sit back in the cheap seats and say,
how did you miss that guy? Why don't you take him?
You only have one pick in each round, Say if
you just go seventy, then sometimes you have extra picks.
Let's say one pick in each round. You're debating three
or four guys. You pick one you might have loved.
You liked the other three just as much, but you
had to make a call. So if you're in the
cheap seats, you pick the one out of the four
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and you talk about that guy, say I'm a genius.
But when you're a general manager, you can only pick one.
If that guy doesn't get Three of those guys that
you didn't take might have been stars, but the one
you did take might have been a bust. And you're
considered an idiot. So that's the difference between being in
that GM chair and being where we are on the
outside looking in thinking we have all the answers when
we don't.
Speaker 12 (18:14):
And you know, to me, that's that's why.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Until you're in there and know the pressure and know
the debates, you know, and then the one man it
has to make that final call, whether it's a head coach,
general manager, sometimes an owner, whoever it is, that's that's
that's got to be brutal because you're never just one guy.
It's always three or four guys just there right in
the mix.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Mel You could tell them it's the greatest draft in
the history of drafts.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
He just lacks faith in the Jets.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
That's all.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
That's what it is.
Speaker 12 (18:44):
Understandably, Let's face it.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
There are at two, they're at sixteen, and they're at
thirty three. You know what this does fast become If
that last year was the Shadora Draft, this is the
ty Simpson Draft.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know, is Ty.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Simpson after thirty three picks are made going to be
a New York Jet. That's what everybody has wants to know,
is somebody going to trade up ahead of the Jets
are just gonna wait till he falls in their lap?
Speaker 12 (19:11):
Is he going to be available for the other second
round pick? Who Ty Simpson right now is the guy.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
When you ask the question about who's the guy tough
to project, I mentioned Kayden Proctor. It's his teammate ty Simpson.
Because if he's not going to the Jets, which everybody
seems to think he's not at sixteen, and he doesn't
look like he's going to Pittsburgh at twenty one, if
nobody trades back into the latter portion of round one.
Speaker 12 (19:32):
To get him, no, you're gonna have to give up picks.
Then is he's there at thirty three and get to
the Jets?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
And I asked Rich Semena, who covers the Jets does
their phenomenal job of knowing Rich forever. He said, it
would be interesting at thirty three. Interesting, I mean it's
a slam dunk. It's just interesting. So we'll see where
ty Simpson ends up, because, like I say, other teams
like Arizona, everybody talks about the Rams. Rams if they
had the late first round pick, maybe they would not say.
I don't think at thirteen you're taking ty Simpson When
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you're built for now, you want to win now, Yes,
with Matthew Stafford. You don't want to take Matthew Stafford's
air apparent. When you get a whole filler at pick
number thirteen or where I'm telling about wide receiver like
Mackay Lemon or Jordan Tyson somebody like that, you don't
take the quarterback that's maybe going to be good and
maybe be the air parent of Matthew Stafford at thirteen.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, if I put you at the draft right now,
and I wish I could do that, But if I
put you there and the Jets did take Simpson at sixteen,
your reaction would be what.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
I thought that could happen a while ago. I don't
think it's gonna happen. You know, if it did happen
like you just suggested, I wouldn't say it's an awful pick.
I know Mikey would slant like it's horrible. I''ll take
Ty Simpson at sixteen. I said that, And you know
when you say stuff sometimes you have to kind of rethink.
Speaker 12 (20:42):
I said, you really want to love that guy at sixteen.
I think you gotta love Ty Simpson. I really do.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Now, you get into it at thirty three if you
like them but just say there's still something missing. There's
gonna be something missing at sixteen and something missing at
thirty three. It's to say what you didn't like at sixteen,
you're still not going to like.
Speaker 12 (20:59):
At thirty three, right, I say it, thirty three, I
take a shot.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I'll take a shot and it doesn't work out, and
I don't see enough this year.
Speaker 12 (21:07):
I'll go get the quarterback next year. I get that.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
But at sixteen, you gotta love him. It's like the
Boomer I bring up for a Boomer probably hates me
more than he ever has. I mean, we got a
lot great Boomer. I don't like me anymore, I don't
think because I talk about him every year about this.
He went in the second round after they took three
players in the first round. They love Boomer. If you
love Boomer, these three picks weren't in the top fifteen guys.
Speaker 12 (21:27):
They were.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
One was a top ten pick, one was around twenty
and one was around twenty eight. And they didn't take Boomer.
They took him in the second round. Helped that turn out.
A couple of the guys went in the first robus,
but they took Bomer. To say they liked them they
didn't love them. You know, everybody loved Steve Young. They
didn't love Boomer. I did. I had Boomer on the
front on the front page of my caver. He was
the nineteen eighty four draft report.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
We talked to Boomer that year. I was telling him
about Johnny and Nightis and Dan fous Do. Don't worried Boomer.
You'll prove him wrong. Boomer didn't want to hear any
of that nonsense. I shut the hell up, Typer. I
don't want to hear that up. I'm not happy right now.
So he came into a little ship, and look what happened.
So the love and like thing I think matters in
the first round. From that, from the second round one,
it probably doesn't matter. Like and probably is good enough
at that point.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
Now on draft night, what do you think the floor
is for Jeremiah Love.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Jeremiah Love is, in my opinion, either one or two.
I put him at two because I really love Mendoza.
But you can put him at one and put Mendoza too.
He's arguably the best player in the draft. People say, well,
we don't take a running back. I said that thirty
years ago. When people don't me I was an idiot.
So now I'm saying, Okay, I think you're idiots. You
don't think because you idiots, because running backs are done.
(22:39):
The last bust in the top ten, I think was
Trent Richardson a while ago to Cleveland. It picked number three.
All those other running backs that have gone have been really,
really good, and people say, well, they're second team.
Speaker 12 (22:48):
Some are. Some aren't thinking about the Super Bowl last
couple of years.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Right. You know who keyed these teams? A running back?
Speaker 12 (22:53):
Did?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Kenneth Walker? Did Saquon So to me and I get it,
Pacheco was a seventh round pick.
Speaker 12 (22:59):
Jeremiah was just a running back.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
He would not be viewed that high, and I wouldn't
be advocating for him. He's a wide receiver, he's a
slot receiver. He didn't fumble. He's a game breaker, he's
a weapon. I always say weapon equals what, guys, Weapons
equal winning. You got enough weapons, you win, right, and anything?
Weapons equal winning. I want Jeremiah Love on my team.
If I'm Tennessee at For, I don't know how you
(23:24):
pass him up.
Speaker 12 (23:24):
If he gets down to seven to Washington.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Now, I didn't want to Tennessee at For an Adam
schefter who knows that a lot more about inside the
NFL than I do.
Speaker 12 (23:32):
Sure, he said I was wrong.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Tennessee is not taking Jeremiah Love at four. I got
another mock coming at him. I gonna I'll go back
to Adams. Do you still think that Adam? I'm calling
Adham this weekend that okay tomorrow or Sunday Because he
said no one Tennessee mean said, well, if it's not
Jeremia Love, who would it be? Probably Sonny Styles, linebacker
from Ohio State, who Robert Salah will see Fred Warner.
Speaker 12 (23:56):
Who's the comp And I hate comps.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
I like the Fred Warner comp to to Sonny Styles.
Speaker 12 (24:01):
If he sees that, he said, I could put him
next to Cedria Gray.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
By the way, Taylor, you know Cedriac Gray, right linebacker
North Carolina held butt doing a really good job with Tennessee.
Put him next to Cedric Gray, and all of a sudden,
Robert Sallas has now I got a defense that can
complement cam Ward and all the things we got going there.
So there's a debate if you're Tennessee. Three years from now,
we're saying where's Jeremiah Love and where is Sonny styles
(24:24):
because Tennessee a lot's going to hinge on that pick
to see where Tennessee is a couple of years from
now in terms, so we are you able to jump
into that playoff contention?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I'm not certain I've ever seen Taylor so happy. He
hasn't been this happy since Sally was hosting the show yesterday.
I mean, it's but Mel just having a conversation, although
it was a one way conversation.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I remember he.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Went to Carolina, although there's a Carolina heldt.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Behind him, drag braid by me.
Speaker 12 (24:48):
I might have been wrong, but I gave him a
draftable grade. I said it'd be successful.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
I didn't know it was going to be as next
to you guys. I thought it might be one football.
So I was successful. Hey, as long as he's got
was making it broadcasting and I missed on them. I'm
still okay. There's a broadcaster. I gave my high grade. Hey,
they might have been a disappointment in terms of the NFL,
and I had a few like that guys that didn't
develop in the NFL but became great broadcasters.
Speaker 12 (25:13):
I'm okay. I said to be successful. I didn't tell
you what it was going to be in Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yes, Taylor sent them the highlight reel from your Flag Football.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
I thought, break it down.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Yeah, and Mikey, Mikey saw it, and Mikey told me
he gave him an undrafted grade. The right part of
them don't even don't even come to my camp what
Mikey said. I thought Taylor had a shot.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Right, Yes he did. You believed that them, no one
else did. Mel.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I believe me and you, Mel. But your original point
about the running back is such a good one, because yes,
the Seahawks were led by a running back. Yes, the
running back won Super Bowl MVP. But Mel, they got
rid of him in the off season. He's with the
Kansas City Chiefs. They didn't think highly enough of Kenneth
Walker to pay him the big.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Dollars they needed to.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Keep Kenneth Walker. So I think you're right about the
running back of it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It has to be a special type of player who
could do multiple things for you.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
And Kenneth Walker was the second round pick, so you know,
you think about you think about the year where Kansas
City took Clyde Edwards Hilaire in the first round and
last pick in the first round.
Speaker 12 (26:15):
This is where you can attack it different ways. Guys,
they took him last picking. You know who they passed
up when they took him, and he always you talk
about Super Bowl. He was there, so he did his
good job.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
But they passed up DeAndre Swift and Jonathan Taylor and
he went in the second round. So two really good
backs went in the second round. Jonathan Taylor, remember I had
the funneling issue at Wisconsin, dropped in the second round.
Then they come back, they get they get Pachecko from Rutgers.
He's a Super Bowl run. So you had a first,
a thirty second pick, seventh round pick.
Speaker 12 (26:38):
They don't.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
But you got Patrick Mahomes. You can win with anybody, right,
They running us right if you got Patrick Mahomes healthy.
So Kansas City's kind of an outlier in that regard,
but that was always my fuck. You know. The running
back that got that whole philosophy going way back in
the day was Thurman Thomas. Thurmer Thomas was a second
round pick out of Oklahoma State. Well, talent should have
been a first, but he has some injury issues, right,
concerns about durability, dropped it second round. What are we
(27:01):
talking about? Jordan Tyson and Arizona saying durability. I don't care.
You see, it's football. You can get hurt, then you
can get hurt in another year, you're gonna get hurt.
That's football, right, it's durability. You think once they're in
the NFL they don't have durab they're gonna hurt. So unfortunately,
that's the nature of the game. So when you look
at that, Thurman Thomas, when I looked at it, I said, Okay,
let's see how many running backs starting in the NFL
(27:22):
went from the second round on at.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
That point, I believe it was twenty out of thirty two.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
There were key guys at running backs, starters that went
in the second round on. If you can find guys
like that, I'm thinking that I read it every year
and I did that. Analytics. I call it analytics because
it lies, but it doesn't lie about.
Speaker 12 (27:37):
That, right, been a funny story.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
I'm mentioned on one of these shows analytics and now
it's called analytics.
Speaker 12 (27:44):
No crap, what you mean. I know what it's called.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I'm trying to say a little play on words is analytis.
Guy's corrected me like I didn't know how to pronounce analytics.
I mean, come on, it's analytics in some cases.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Right.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
Yeah, running backs, I've written that, I've been said, the bandwagon.
Speaker 12 (28:05):
Whatever you want to call it, is full, and now
people are there's no room.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I already jumped off because now I'm kind of back
on this running back thing.
Speaker 12 (28:14):
But they got to be one word.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
They got to be versatile, they got to be multi talented.
And Love's teammate jeddari and Price, who I really like,
is a running back boy.
Speaker 12 (28:21):
He had acts that line of scrimmage.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
He goes, He's got game breaking ability returns kicks, but
he had some fumbles, crucial fumbles both years.
Speaker 12 (28:28):
He also had limited opportunities catching the ball.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
So he's probably a second round pick or he's great
grated for me, is the second for that reason if
he was back at Notre Dame catching all his balls
and then you got him up there. But for right now,
Jadarian Price excellent running back. Can he be more more
multi dimensional in the NFL as a receiver and also
take care of the ball security issues like Jonathan Taylor did.
Speaker 12 (28:49):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Uh you mentioned guys who look the part. Is there
a guy you can recall from all the years you've
been doing this. Who most looked the part that ended
up not playing the part very well?
Speaker 12 (28:58):
It's a great question.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Oh God, that's a good one.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Well, yeah, I think I think to him, but I
think in terms of looking the part, i'd say probably
if you go.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
To JaMarcus Russell, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Yeah, he definitely you know he had the best pro
day ever for a Now, who I always ask you, guys,
I'm gonna give you a quick quiz if the worst
pro day, If the best prote ever was Tom Marcus Russell,
who had the worst? I told you, I've told you
guys this time. You can't my class.
Speaker 12 (29:31):
Guys, you gotta get.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Right in my class. I'm gonna be the teacher here.
I'm the professor. I've mentioned this a hundred times. Who
had the worst Pro day ever?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Peyton man I mean it, Peyton Manning wild believe.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
I got a call from it, wil believe balls not
get it done and say, and that's when I heard
the comment if his name was Peyton Jones would be
a third round pick.
Speaker 12 (29:54):
That was Peyton the day JaMarcus Russell had the best
Pro day ever. I look back, the guy I thought
was going to be great.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
It was Tony Manderridge back in the day, and Tony
yeahs illustrated.
Speaker 12 (30:08):
Yeah, And to Tony's credit, what happened.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
He ended up moving to guard with the Colts and
ended up having some good years right, so he was.
It was a bust to left Tackleyboding grated ahead of
Troy Eightman that year in eighty nine all that stuff.
Speaker 12 (30:21):
Tony Mandrich say, recovered and became.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
A heck of a guard and it wasn't a bust
as a guard looked. I remember people on the league
I said, Tony Mandress is the perfect perfect left tackle
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Uh. Taylor put it on the poll.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
If Peyton Manning's last name was Jones, would he have
been a third round pick? Such Greaty mikey A texted
me during this saying he could listen to you all day.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I said, all day, every day.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It never gets all day.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
I gotta I gotta read some of those articles, and
people say, can you just eliminate him from your podcast forever? Okay,
in the retirement That's what I'm send him in.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
The retirement US. I'd rather lose my entire adio.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Don't care. Mel I don't care. Mel, All right, get
out of here.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
We look forward to you watching you on the NFL
Drake two weeks from now.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yes, Mel, thank you for the time. We appreciate it,
but we know you're busy.
Speaker 12 (31:18):
Appreciate your mouth. Thanks guys.
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Speaker 1 (31:54):
Our thanks to Mel Kuiper Junior for joining us, ad
Nan Verker to join us in about fifteen minutes. Joins
us every Friday. Looking forward to that the Master's second
round going on right now. We will get to that
in just a second.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Rory is well.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I heard Ike say that he's running away with it.
He's there's two and a half rounds to go in Augusta,
but he is two up right now, and it's interesting
what's going on with him.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
But we'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I am at a legendary sports radio station here in
Baltimore wb A L Yes, speaking of legendary ease, legendary
things in sports radio.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
A legendary host.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Is he has passed away a guy that I knew
very well, a host out of Atlanta. You will know
who I'm talking about once we play this sound for you.
But this is a tribute to and may he rest
in peace. He is a good man. But a tribute
to the one and only bobach Tims and Stone Mountain Tim.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
How are you are we going.
Speaker 13 (32:54):
To spend the whole preseason listening to you guys trying
to be dishonest and ill doc Qui Rodgers and Harry
Douglass and great Jeri, or we're gonna finally be honest
and said, if you're a facon fey and you're really
you know what I'm saying. I've been a facony fey
in my whole life. I've been in the city for No,
you haven't No, you haven't.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
No, you haven't.
Speaker 14 (33:13):
If you've been a Falcon fan your whole life in
real life, they were on the birds of something special
in this.
Speaker 13 (33:18):
City for forty three years.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Sir, you have not been paying attention.
Speaker 14 (33:22):
Harry Dudley is coming up an injury a year before last.
Last year was his rehab year. He's going to be
a dynamic receiver. If not, come up here, and I'll
give you one hundred dollars, Harry.
Speaker 13 (33:35):
I mean, you don't know anything.
Speaker 14 (33:37):
About what you're talking about. And you have to roll
up here, I say, you say to me that we're
trying to upsell the Falcons to you. Sorry, you're not
a Veil fan. You haven't been, and if you have been,
you don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
What you're looking at.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Being a homer broke.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
It was a homer. Don't you ever call me a homer?
Speaker 14 (33:56):
The hell your thinker's been training the truth since nineteen
seventy three?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Radio?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
What year was that? Do we know when that call was?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Well, it doesn't matter. That's what sports radio is all about.
You're a homer. I'm not a homer. Let's talk over
each other.
Speaker 10 (34:15):
I love it so that is He was the twenty
eleven preseason. To Bo's credit, the Falcons went ten and
six that season, and Harry Douglas was fourth on the
team in receiving yards four hundred and ninety eight yards.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, I mean, okay, he wasn't on the verge of
something special.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But no, he did on a.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Two thousand yard season a couple of years later, and
the Falcons, you know, they.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Were better, right, I mean, the man passed away. Do
you have to criticize every word that comes out of
his mouth?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Just pick it apart?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I mean, what are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I'm literally giving him credit for what he said.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
It doesn't feel like you're giving him credit.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
They wanted to hear me right, Well, Bullbox said they
were on the verge of something. You said they weren't
really on the verge of something. And when Bobox says
you're on the verge of something, you're on the verge
of something.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
All right.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I was talking about Harry Douglas. But that's okay. We
can move on. And the reason I asked for what
year it was is because I'm not gonna lie. I
didn't know how much longer he had after listening to that, Yes,
I'm surprised twenty six, very impressive. Sad to hear, sad
to hear?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I want to hear this soundum one more time? Maybe
is he's right? Now I'm wrong? One more time?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Tims and Stone Mountain. Tim, how are you are we going.
Speaker 13 (35:29):
To spend the whole preseason listening to you guys trying
to be dishonest and upsel Doc Quiz Rodgers and Harry
Douglass and Paray Jerry, or we're gonna finally be honest
and say, if you're a Falcon fan, you really.
Speaker 12 (35:42):
You know what?
Speaker 13 (35:43):
I've been a Falcon fan in my whole life. I've
been in this city for No, you haven't.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
No, you haven't, No, you haven't.
Speaker 14 (35:48):
If you're been a Falcon fan your whole life in
real life, they were on the verge of something special.
Speaker 13 (35:52):
In this city for forty three years.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You have not been paying attention.
Speaker 14 (35:58):
It's coming up and in a year before last last
year was his rehab year. He's going to be a
dynamic receiver. If not, come up here and I'll give.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
You one hundred dollars.
Speaker 14 (36:10):
I mean, you don't know anything about what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You have to pull up here say to me that
we're trying to upsell the Falcons to you. Sorry, you're
not a val fan.
Speaker 14 (36:21):
You haven't been, and if you have been, you don't
know what you're looking at. Was a Homer.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Don't you ever call me a Homer?
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Who the hell you?
Speaker 14 (36:31):
Thing has been training the truth since nineteen seventy three,
Hunt Atlanta Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Who boy, that takes me off?
Speaker 10 (36:42):
Stu Sticking to our connections to the NFC South, our
good friend t Bob A Bear was hosting Wake Up
Barstool and he was kind of wearing some short shorts.
The sun must be out in Chicago because he was
kind of letting his leg show off. And then maybe
the most surprising tweet I've ever seen, really, Lil Wayne
(37:05):
tweeted why Bob? Little Wayne tweeted, T Bob, put your
laid down MANE can't sit like that in them nasty
Daisy Dukes king what we doing? Shout out Bobby A Bear,
New Orleans legend.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Oh my goodness, I love that so much. I think
Lil Wayne should be like sports, television, fashion or media
whatever judge of all time because it's so true. I
don't mind the shorts. You can't be crossing your legs
(37:41):
with the shorts that short, then it gives a little
too much away.
Speaker 10 (37:44):
How surprised do you think t Bob was when he
looked down at his phone and was like, is this
the real Little Wayne tweeting at me?
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Shocked? How surprised were you?
Speaker 10 (37:52):
Is he?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
How well Taylor read the tweet from Little Wayne?
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I mean, I'm sure he's been studying that tweet. That
is also around the Horn alumna by the way, So
that's why we feel that connection talking about Lil Wayne
that way.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
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