April 7, 2026 • 37 mins
Stugotz & Company recaps Michigan's win over UConn in last night's tournament final, former UNC men's basketball player & NCAA champion Justin Jackson joins the show, Think About It Thursday (on Tuesday), and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
A few poll questions to get the show started today. Taylor,
please put it on the pole at Stegot seven ninety
one X when Luca puld A Hammy was Nico smiling
on the inside. Also, are you a bench below the
court guy? Yes? Or no? Hm? I don't like it. It
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scares me. Also put this on the pole, tailor. Is
Lloy Vaught sitting around going, hey, what about us? Oh? Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
In the other Michigan here double double machine?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, yeah, what do you mean? What about us?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Is nobody mentioning Lloyd Vaught or that team in particular?
I feel like that team has been mentioned, just the.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Fab five getting all the you know, praise. They didn't
win anything, Lloyd Vaught, Terry Mills, Rameil Robinson, Glenn Rice.
They won a national championship. No one talks about it.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It was the first question on that pole.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
When Luca pulled a hammy. Was Nico smiling on the inside?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Does anybody know what Nico's doing anymore?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I smiling on the inside.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I just told you I saw a video of him
at an airport and he's got a fly commercial these days,
and so that's not the greatest. I'm pretty sure he's
just trying to be in hiding as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Last poll here Justin Jackson going to join us, but
Monti Jones going to join us an hour number two.
You could spend a day with one group, the Fab
five or the starting five from last night's National Championship game.
Who you got Fab five?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Currently?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm sorry for the follow up. So this is the
currently this?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Then this is the modern day Fab five? What happened
last night? Those are five guys all came through the
transfer portal playing their first season together. It's the modern
day equivalent of the Fab five. We're never going to
see five freshmen come in at the same time and
make a run to the championship game and then lose.
We're never going to see that again. But you had
five guys come together through the portal from different schools,
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playing in their first season together, and they went on
to win a national championship.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Instead of the Fab Five, since they're transfers, can we
call them the trans five?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I don't think we can do that.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I don't know, can we I don't think we can.
Dangerous Gape eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That
is eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox again.
Justin Jackson going to join us because Taylor's producing the show.
He's producing his show tomorrow. Willie Randolph, Wow, I would
love Willy Randolph. I know you.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Anybody got a number for him? I do Willy Randolph.
I graduated with his daughter. He was the commencement speaker
at my graduation.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I wish you hadn't told them. Let me seriously, so
Willie Randolph, I was joking seriously going to be on
the show tomorrow. Is it your thoughts last night? Dan
Hurley going for three national championships over the last four years.
He still has two. It's pretty good. Made it to
the final game three times in four years. I'm not
certain how many people like him. But the alternative is,
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you know, is a coach that people for Michigan that
people find to be very boring.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I mean, so Yukon has done so much winning overall,
but also lately under Hurley. Yeah that I forgot that
they won back to back championship when they.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Were going for three out of four because I said this.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
And thank you guys for not noticing and you know,
picking up my my mistakes. But I said at some
point about the Gators not repeating. I think I said
the last team to repeat won't be the next team
to repeat. Yeah, completely forgetting that Yukon just repeated a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And so my bad that retroactively.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know what's crazy is last night felt like a
game that Yukon was gonna steal, yes and forever be
that championship team, right, the team that had the grit
that found away.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But Michigan was ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Like when I said this yesterday, I regret sounding ridiculously
surprised when Seth Davis picked Michigan into it all the
level of you know that my voice got when I said,
really he picked them.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
To be fair to us, we were fresh off the
Arizona Sweet sixteen victory. We thought they were the best
team in the country. And we learned that they weren't.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We were drunk off of Arizona. Let's be real.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And then then you start realizing, oh, no, Michigan has
been the best team in this tournament the entire time.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And I remember back in two thousand and was it
six or seven, which everyone was the first one of
the Gators back to back championships and Jason Williams White
Chocolate Jason Williams was on the Miami Heat at the time,
and as a former Gator we used to chat about
all the time. And after the second round of that tournament,
and this is the Gators that weren't supposed to win
it that year. They played George Washington et cetera second
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game of that tournament, we both looked at each other
and said, they're the best team in the tournament. Yeah,
And that's because I was watching intently, right, If I
was watching intently as closely as I was that tournament,
for this tournament, Michigan was so obvious.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
It was so obvious. They're huge.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
They can't like, it doesn't matter what your bigs are,
you can't really get great shots around that size.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And then they have enough.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Guard play, enough shooting and enough talent around them where
it's just like it's.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
A better version of last year's Gators.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Marrow looked like he was eight foot five out there.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah so big.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yes, you mentioned the elevated courts or whatever, the benches
that are a little bit lower.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Vanderbilt has that right at their at their home arena.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah. I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, well, I hate it at Vanderbilt because the benches
are on the baseline and it's just like I gotta
yell all the way over there to talk.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
To my coach.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
But that somehow, some way makes the players look like
well obviously reasons, I guess now that you think about it,
that they're on a stage and then you throw in
their height and they look even taller.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Somehow.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I was terrified for Tracy Wolfson. I was anyone else
put it on the pole tailor where you're terrified for
Tracy Well Wolfson.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Doesn't she do the thing every year where she takes
a picture next to the tallest player that she interviewed,
And it's.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Just laugh out loud funny. The discrepancy.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
So Stu, you know who I feel bad for today.
I feel bad for Reid On Yukon. Yeah, because he
transferred from Michigan to Yukon, and now he's been at
Michigan and Yukon now and in his four years, those
teams have won three titles.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
He has zero. Just can't get it right, I mean,
he just can't reach the problem wherever he goes.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
He was great on the board, so I don't know
if he was the problem.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
He was so nice about his situation and he was
like whenever he talks about he's like Noel Will to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Love those guys. He had a great chance that Yukon
looked amazing, was huge, and the Duke comeback win only
to come up short.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But that seems impossible that he would be on both
those teams. They won three national championships in four years
and he hasn't won one.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Just flip his time with both teams and he'd have
three championships right now.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And if I'm reading mikeyy correctly, he is the problem.
Mikeyye doesn't care how well he played last night, doesn't
care how hard he hit the boards last night. He's
the problem. If he's on your team, you lose.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
There you go future, Nick.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Jet, I mean whatever.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
To further your point, Michigan was the best team all tournament.
But to a lot of people that watch college basketball,
Michigan was the best team all year. And in a
sport like March Madness, a sport like college basketball, it
does feel kind of rare to get to the end
of the season and be like, oh, the unquestioning best
team won the tournament. With how random it is to
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a point where it does feel like an extra reason
to celebrate this Michigan team.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Say, like, just dating back to last year, for example,
there's no way anybody in the first three months of
the season would have said Florida was your national champion, right,
and then they just got hot at the right time.
This was absolutely one of those years from start to finish,
the three losses where almost nothing, you know, just the
difference that the point differential in these games in the
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tournament just goes to show you when they're locked in,
doesn't matter the opponent, this team has like a fifteen
to twenty point advantage.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Stu, I have a ridiculous stat here. Okay, Michigan last
night became the first team since two thousand and nine
right to beat Yukon in the sweet sixteen or later.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Wow, I mean, listen to your point about who wins
these tournaments. Dan Hurley said, it it's a one game scenario.
Once you get to the NCAA tournament, you have to
win six one game scenarios. If we were playing Michigan
in a best of seven, of course you would take Michigan.
But in a one game scenario, anything could happen, and rarely,
and Hurley said this, does the best team in college
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basketball win the national championship. You can go back to
you know, NC State winning it, Villanova beating Georgetown. Georgetown
was the best team in the country that year, but
in a one game scenario, Villanova could slow it down,
play four corners on offense, and milk the clock and
win that game. And that's what happened. And so you
rarely get the best team winning the NCAA tournament. It's odd.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
And that's why I feel like coaching a little bit
more important in college basketball in terms of winning the championship, yes,
than it is in NBA basketball, because over a seven
game series, you put you know, eight talented NBA, smart
NBA players out there, they can figure it out from
one game to the next. In a one game setting,
your coach has to have you absolutely ready, and Taylor
(09:52):
not to go off on a side tangent here. But
the more I think about the Michael Malone hire, the
more I like it. For you see, because he's just
established as somebody you have to listen to. And when
you do listen to him, he hammers home defensive principles
and wants you to play that hard all the time.
And frankly, if you're a college kid with any sort
of skill and you play that hard and listen to him,
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you're gonna do well.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I think I think Taylor is starting to come around
Michael Malone.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, warming up. I wish you would go by Mike
Malone sometimes, just because it's a little it's a lot
easier to just say Mike Malone when you're talking as
much as we are.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I don't have to call him Michael, do I Because
I'm not going to call him Michael. I mean, he's
Mike Malone.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
I call him coach.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I call him Mike Maloney.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, what all the time?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
When did we stop saying coach something and start calling
them by their full names? Because I remember back in
the day, like even in college, we were encouraged to say, hey,
coach Spurrier or coach Meyer.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I think if you're a coach or a coach for life,
I mean that's it. Yeah, you do you think that?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, But I'm just wondering when we started using full
names on coaches, because it used to be understood it
it's cool if we just call him coach or coach
and his last name.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
I think that's some point these big jay journalists started
pushing back on that, being like, hey, I went to
journalism school. I'm not calling anybody coach. And then somebody
said it disrespectful. Somebody said it to me.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Are you looking at is hey?
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Somebody said it to Dion Sanders, and Dion was like,
call me coach. Yeah, and then it's right, yep, exactly,
coach Prime.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I'm with him.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Well, he was specifically wanted you to call him coach Prime,
which to me.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Is a little bit of an issue.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
But in terms of calling somebody coach versus their first name,
I kind of understand that. Like, I don't think that
you're demeaning the journalist by saying, hey, call me coach.
It's just what you're used to. It's just what you
want to hear. And I'm totally fine with it. It's
not disrespectful of the person calling you coach.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I sent a text to Phil Martelli Junior, who joined
us a couple of weeks ago, and he's going to
do more sports radio. Well, I sent them a text.
I sent it as coach Martelli. He said, call me Phil.
I said, I will not do that, and he said, okay,
because I respect the coaches. I do. Once you're a coach,
you're always a coach. I mean, listen the bartender and cheers.
(12:02):
We called him coach. Well after he was done coaching
and he was bartending Jonathan coachman coach, how about that.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'm not gonna lie. Until this moment, I did not
know he was a coach.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
But I think if you're a coach, you have earned it.
You've earned that. They all want to be called coach.
They do, don't they. I think, well, you think Bobby
Knight wanted to be called Bobby? Get out of here.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I think college coaches, in particular, because they're you know,
they're athletes, their pupils will call them coach more often
than not. It just feels right. And when you're moving
from your players to the journalists, I don't mind. Just
requesting it, like, if it's an ego thing, fine, it's
not gonna hurt my ego to call you coach, just
answer my questions.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Is he One of the other things I've seen what
Michael Malone is that one of the biggest complaints of
him in the NBA was it was kind of his
way or the highway correct, and some people do think
that will translate well to the college basketball world, where
you're not really having to deal You're having to deal
with the nil and recruiting, but you're not really having
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to deal with the egos so much once they're on campus.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
You pretty much only have to deal with in terms
of any sort of egos colliding is your own assistance.
And if you hire people, maybe the you know, the ad,
but he's not gonna come tell you basketball in denounced.
He's just gonna, you know, deal with the whole program.
So yeah, I think if you can hire assistance that
you can communicate properly with This is exactly the arena
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for him because it is his way or the highway.
As it is with most college coaches. They don't take
a lot of anything from anybody and it's just their way,
and frankly, the second it shows to work, then they're
just going to dig in and do it even more
and it's going to double down, et cetera, et cetera.
So you almost have to establish that if you're a
college coach.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
The most impressive thing about Michigan, if you asked Dan
Hurley before the game, where do you want this game played,
meaning in terms of numbers score, he would tell you
in the sixties, that's the best chance I have at
beating Michigan. And it was sixty nine sixty three, and
he still lost. Michigan defends very well and Michigan's best
player was hurt, and they still got it done and
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they still won the national championship.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
So is nobody saying what I think I'm about to
say because they like to be very nice to these
college players.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Hey, Alex Cara Ben hit a shot man.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That dude was.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I think he was zero for five before that one
that he hit to get the Duke rally going. So
he was what one for six maybe one for five
in that game, and this when he ends up three
for ten. Two of those who are pretty late and
they kind of nothing situation, My guy, if you're the
senior that everybody loves give me some moments.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
In the last game.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I am so proud of you. I really, I've never
been more attracted to you.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
He is he When when I have Michigan in the
bracket pool to win and I didn't hedge before, I'm
going into that game and I'm counting, I'm counting the money.
When Michigan's up double digits, then they cut it to four,
Yukon starts pressing. Caraban puts up a three to cut
it to one. Yep, and my heart dropped to the floor.
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And then I saw it clang off the rim, and
I was.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Like, that's God.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Even the one where the fast break where they could
have cut it back to four again, and they blew
that one because they kind of rushed the shot a
little bit when the defense was coming. They could have
slowed it down. I was like, Man, Yukon has had
so many opportunities, and that's why I said they're so
well coached. They were so ready to steal this one,
but it just.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Wasn't meant to be.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Taylor. The sea in Caravan stands for clank. He's been
to three final fours in four it it's also a
cab oh I don't care that was the joke.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I mean, Jesus, I was just gonna ask you if
the news, But I can't believe where passing that kid today.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I mean he went to three title games in four
years and won two of them. Well, they're gonna have
to replace him. Yes, Justin Jackson coming up Willie Randolph tomorrow.
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He's a twenty seventeen National Champion ACC Player of the Year,
CONSETTSUS First Team All American played at Carolina. Taylor loves him.
He loves Taylor, and he's doing media work for Phil MBA.
He hasn't an NBA champion as well. I love that app.
And he's doing media stuff for the Field of sixty eight.
What are you doing with Field of sixty eight?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Man, I'm just filling in whenever they need me.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
And then I guess at the start of January, I
started with the ACC Network too, So we're just kind
of seeing where this goes.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Mane. I see your jersey from college hanging right behind
you on the wall. Do you have a jersey hanging
anywhere in Chapel Hill.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
It's somewhere up there. Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you
walk in the gym you can find it somewhere, but
I'm not totally sure where it might be.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
When you say somewhere, you mean in the rafters of
the Dean Dome, right, I mean yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
I'm pretty sure it's up there with some with some
other other jerseys that they decided to hang up.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
So I'm definitely blessed for that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Okay, Taylor, would you like to tell Justin where your
jersey is hanging in Chapel Hill?
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Go ahead, So I've won at Pantanna Bob's and then
one at the Pizzaia hYP three be.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
More specific, Yes, right next to the bathroom Pantanna Bob at.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
That It's a legend, so I can see it. I
can definitely see it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I want to start with the National Championship Game, but
I feel like that would be a waste of time.
I know Taylor wants me to ask you about Mike Maloney.
Mike Maloney, Michael Malone becoming the next head coach at
North Carolina. It's a totally on North Carolina thing to do,
to go outside of the family. What were your thoughts.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
I mean, I was shocked at first, but then whenever
you start to you start to break down the fact
that his daughter is at school when he was fired.
If I'm not mistaken, he did a lot of He
spent a good amount of time around the program, whether
that was at practices with the coaches, things like that.
So once I thought about that and added that up,
I wasn't too shocked. Now I am shocked because in
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my opinion, I didn't think he should have been fired
from the NBA. So I was a little more shocked
from the standpoint of if he's getting back into coaching.
I'm sure there's NBA jobs available, but look, we'll take them.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
We'll definitely take them.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
I think a lot of people are excited to kind
of see what his name brings. Obviously his coaching speaks
for itself, being an NBA champion, but kind of what
he brings and kind of what the new look of
the Tar Hills will look like.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Justin I kind of want to circle back to the
previous coach. And obviously you won a championship with Roy.
What was the problem then with Hubert? What wasn't the
same from one coach to the next.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
I mean, it's tough.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
Coach Williams, in my opinion, is, if not the best,
one of the best college basketball coaches of all time. Right,
So to have somebody come in right after that, it's
going to be some really massive shoes to fill. When
you look at Coach Davis's, you know, five years, most
people would say it was a pretty successful five years
of coaching, right. And I think that's what's so difficult
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for the coaches that come through North Carolina is when
you talk about the standard, standard's pretty high, right, and
that standard was set from not just coach Williams, coach Smith,
all the coaches that have come through and the players
that have come through. And so I think the difficult
part was people had this image of what, you know,
that standard of North Carolina basketball is, and I think
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at times didn't take until count the changing landscape of
college basketball as well, right, And I think that's kind
of where you saw it. And then obviously that loss
to VCU is a tough one. And I think when
that happened, I mean I've said this multiple times. If
they win, and they even go on to lose by
thirty to Illinois, I don't think we're having the discussion
of Mike Malone being the head coach, right, I think
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we're talking about what transfers are we going to get in,
what recruits are coming in, that whole sort of thing.
And so I think that's the difficult part of it was.
I think the VCU game for a lot of people,
especially in the decision making process, kind of saw that
as you know, do we make the decision to go
in a different route or do we bring them back?
And obviously you know they decided to go in a
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different route.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Justin when they're talking about candidates for the North Carolina job.
One of the things that always comes up is they
have to understand what it means to be a part
of the Carolina family, even if they're not a part
of that Carolina family directly. What does that Carolina family
look like to you and kind of mean to you?
Speaker 9 (20:59):
I mean, it looks different for me and probably the
majority of former players, right it looks like going back
in the summer and playing pickup. It looks like going
back for camp, playing in the camp game versus the
current players coming back for games throughout the season and
kind of feeling the love and walking through that tunnel
and feeling that that, to me, is what Carolina family
is about. But it also goes deeper than that, right,
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Like I'll never forget my first time playing against Marvin
Williams in the NBA.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
And I had really met.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Marvin probably once or twice before playing against him, and
you know, we met up at half court during warm ups,
and it was as if we had interacted a ton before, right,
And so it just goes deeper than that, And so
I think that's something that can translate. Obviously, he doesn't
have a connection other than his daughter playing volleyball, but
I think it can go, it can stay the same
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even with somebody new at the head.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Justin you had really high praise there for Roy Williams. Obviously,
I don't think anybody would argue with you. I'm curious
from what you've learned or what you've figured out or
knew from Michael Malone, what things that Roy did especially
well that translated to the college students at the time.
Can Michael sort of try to replicate or do you
think he has in his coaching bag if.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
You will, well, I mean you talk about I mean,
he's a genius when it comes to x's and o's, right,
like you talk about those Denver Nuggets teams that he coached.
Obviously he got lucky having a guy like Jokic and
then a guy like Jamal Murray kind of being the
two guys at the top.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
But that also goes back to coaching as well.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
He was there from the beginning with those guys, right,
he put things around around them, a system and things
like that.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Finding how good Yolkic is, right, that's a huge.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
Part of it, exactly.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
And nowadays if you talk about talent scouting or being
able to find good talent in the transfer portal and
things like that. You've got to have an eye for that, right.
You don't have guys that are just staying three four
years like Coach Williams was obviously blessed to have and
guy stayed because it was coach Williams in North Carolina.
But you don't have that necessarily now and so you
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got to be able to in you know, a few
weeks really nowadays, you got to be able to say, Okay,
you know what, that fits what I'm trying to do.
This fits what I'm trying to do. And I think
Mike Malone did that great with Denver, and it's funny.
You know, people have talked about how he's like an
old school coach, right and how he holds everybody accountable.
That was one of the things that coach Williams always
(23:22):
did right. It didn't matter if it was me the
ACC Player of the Year my junior year, or if
it was a walk on in practice right that didn't
do something correct. He was going to hold whoever it
was accountable because it was a bigger goal.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
I think that's.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
Something that obviously, you know, you got to kind of
taper back a little bit. You're not dealing with grow men,
you're dealing with kids and people trying to figure it out.
But I think that's something that can translate well to
to you know, kind of coming into this program of Hey,
we've got a certain standard and a system that we're
running and there's no letdowns from that, and that kind
of falls into the Carolina way or the family that
you want to talk about.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Justin you mentioned how he's trying to find people that
what he wants to do. How much of it is
bringing in the right people to do what you want
to do versus adapting what you do to what you have.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
I think it's a good mix.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
Honestly, and that's kind of why I think when you
look at the people that he's going to bring it
around him, I think it's important to have people that
have been around the college space for a while right,
have seen the differences and the changes and the transitions
that we've seen through college basketball.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Well.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Also, I wouldn't mind seeing an NBA guy come in
as far as player development or things like that. I
think that's really key as well. And so I think
you know, when you talk about him as a coach,
it's going to be just as important the staff and
the people that come in around him. And it also
goes as far as you know, who are we bringing
in from the transfer portal, right like now with the
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freshman and transfer portal, what fits what he's looking for,
but also what maybe we still have there when he
comes in or things like that. So it's I think
that's going to be the big thing to see, is
that transition for him, but also the help that he
has with him through that transition.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Justin any Carolina fans that are skeptical about the hire,
how much of that skepticism do you think comes from
what they just saw with Bill Belichick in football all
of it.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I was waiting for Bill Belichick question.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
I mean, the tough part about where college sports is
in general, right is you have to have the money,
period like that.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
That's just the way it is.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
And I don't know. Once again, I'm not in any
decision making rooms. I'm not any really any conversations when
it comes to decision making for any athletics at North Carolina.
But if you don't have the money, and you don't
have the money to pay players, then you could have
a Bill Belichick in the seat and it just might
not translate, right, and so I think that's another aspect
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of not only the staff that you know, Mike Malone
brings in, but also making sure that we have the
money to be able to divvy out to these players
that maybe they're wanting to go after to now bring
in the talent. Now, the coaching takes over once you
have the talent sitting in the locker room. And so
I think that's a big part. I mean, somebody asked me,
(26:10):
I think it was this morning, actually, they asked me
about kind of the whole brand conversation, right, and when
you talk about the brand of these different teams North Carolina,
Duke Kansas, everybody's.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Taking a hit, right.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
The brands aren't the same anymore, because the number one
conversation that you're having is the money aspect. How much
can I get? You know, like where can I sign
on the dot line for this? And then we'll talk
about okay, you know what, I like that interlocking and
see right, like that's that's just the reality of college
sports now. And so I think if we have that
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in place and we have good people around coach Malone,
I think his ability to coach and his ability to
hold people accountable and have a certain standard.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
I think we could. I think we could be right
back to where we need to be.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Who would have thought Bill Belichick would have staying on
the university. Rewind a year and a half, he'd be like, Wow, yes,
Now it's just like.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So justin if I told you you could hand pick
any coach you wanted to be the next head coach
at North Carolina, anyone, and it's your decision and yours alone,
who you're going with, who's doing it better than everyone else?
Right now? Oh?
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Man, See, that's a tough that's a tough question because
now that I'm in the media space, I have to
try to be as unbiased as possible.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It depends on.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
The guy.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
The guy down the road at Duke is doing an
unbelievable job, right I would never say, hey, we need
to go, we need to go grab him.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Be careful, soul.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
It's a dangerous it's a dangerous game.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It is.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
But but when I like when when the conversations were
happening with coaches, A guy that I loved is t
j Alsburg Iowa State, Like, I love what he does there.
Obviously you talk about Dusty Mayheck, he just won I
see the Michigan hat.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
He just won a national championship. Right, He's a.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
Really really good coach. Tommy Lloyd, I love Tommy Lloyd.
So there was good options and all the names that
were thrown around. And I also see from their perspective
of hey, I'm getting paid, I'm having the nil come
in where I'm at. I can build a program up
exactly how I want it to be, and I'm not
having to come in kind of with the circumstances that
(28:22):
North Carolina has been in. So I can see it
from both sides. But those coaches, I mean, I don't
think you could have went wrong with any of them.
And I think, you know, the Mike Malone higher, I
don't think it's a panic or a settle by any means.
So I think it's it's exciting to have him in.
But those are some of the coaches I liked.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Has Michigan entered the all time best team conversation?
Speaker 9 (28:44):
Who team construction? I think it has to be in
the conversation. I will say that, wow. I mean the
tough thing about the game against Yukon, Michigan really didn't
even play well and they still want a national championship, right,
And so I think that you know, when you talk
about it. For me, the best team ever assembled is
(29:06):
and in my mind is that Kentucky team that we
played against, that Platoon team. They didn't even win a
national championship, but that team was loaded from one to ten.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
But I mean you have.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
To you look at some of these I mean they
went on a streak where they beat teamed by forty,
like five or six games in a row and things
like that, So I mean they got to be I
guess you got to put them in a conversation, but man,
they were a gauntlet. I loved Arizona and what they
did to Arizona I think kind of solidified that they
(29:38):
were the best team in college basketball at that point.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Stu.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
What you might not be aware of is that me
and Justin used to play video games together and I
would use Justin as a sounding board for some of
my takes. So, Justin, I have an unpopular opinion when
it comes to March Madness that I want to run
by you one shining moment, the most overrated tradition in
all in all of sports blasphemy.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
I mean, it's probably the most overrated thing for the
teams that don't win it. I will say that for
the teams, the teams that don't win it, I don't
want to hear none of that. The year that we
lost in the championship, turn it off, please.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
There were no shining moments for you, right, I'm with you.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Yeah, But the team that won it, it is something
that you've always seen and you know, you kind of
fall into that aspect and it's it's pretty special once
they show you at the end of it. But I mean,
it's not a bad it's not a bad take when
it comes to the teams that you know, when it
comes to Yukon walking off the floor, that's not a
terrible take.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Can I go back real quick? What was that best
team ever that you said? Which Kentucky team?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
What was that?
Speaker 9 (30:46):
I think that was my freshman year twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.
I think they lost to Wisconsin. Yeah, Booker played deep,
book played like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
I mean they had guys everywhere.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
They had the Harrison Twins, they had Cat, they had
Willie cally Stein, they and everybody.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, but you're in the media game now, like you
got you understand what they're doing with one shining moment right,
it's just to keep you around till midnight. You get it, right,
I mean it's.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
You got to keep you got to keep people locked
in as as best as you can.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
So I definitely understand from that perspective too.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
But there are no shoting moments. Only one team as
a shining moment, is what you're saying.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
Yeah, I mean even the teams maybe that like had
crazy buzzer beaters or crazy moments in the tournament that
are at home watching.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
It like doesn't have It's not the same.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
It's not the same feeling as you being up there
on the stage watching it.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Like.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
It's just not you know, it doesn't connect the same.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You play, Taylor and video games. Who wins more you? Taylor?
Speaker 9 (31:43):
You know what's crazy. We talked about it. I've got
two kids now and me and Vip have not played.
I mean it's been a it's been a minute at
this point, Like this was during.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
My kids will do that so a lot.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Yeah, my playing career when I would have you know,
road trips and stuff like that, and I was free,
but VIP it depended on what game. Majority of the time,
video games was kind of my that was my spot.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
He's being very humble right now. He's being very humble
right now. Whenever we would play a shooter video game,
he would have to carry me and I was just
his backpack.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
Gladly. He was a great He was a guy. You know,
you need your back you know what I'm saying. You
just have the visuals. They might not ever do anything really,
but they're at least gonna have great call outs and
they're gonna have great communication that everywhere.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Most of the pros have hand eye coordination that the
rest of us don't know about.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
So it helps with video games too.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Does he still wear you at with sports stakes or what? Uh?
Speaker 8 (32:40):
You know?
Speaker 9 (32:40):
He there for a while, he would, he would come
in pretty hot with him.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
He hasn't. He hasn't come with anything really here lately.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
I'm sure now that you're saying that, I'm sure I'll
start getting you know, I.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Mean, And I'm always.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Down for him because I love a little back and forth.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
So all right, and we appreciate the time. I'd like
to do this more often if possible. So Taylor is
going to continue to bother you. Check out his work
Thank you for having me, Yeah, man, check out his
work Field of sixty eight We appreciate it, man, and
we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
Yes, sir, thank you.
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Speaker 1 (33:41):
We only have a couple of minutes here. It is Tuesday,
so of course we're going to do a think about
It Thursday? Why not? I think we're off Thursday, and
so that's why we're doing it today. Yes, well, I
mean I am so Taylor wants to do it today.
So we need the image of I you.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
Know that segment talk about a Tuesday on Hot Men
Crowder in Soleiro. This is like that, but bigger, big
and better, and forty eight hours later, they seems think
about it Thursday on.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
A Tuesday welcome in. Do you think about it Thursday
on a Tuesday? Yes, so Stu gotts. The Islanders fired
Patrick Waugh yep as their head coach. They replaced him
with Peter de Boor.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
And when you hear the name Debor, you think Kaylan
de Boer at Alabama. So the think about it Thursday
is who would do better coaching the other person's sports?
Peter Deboor coaching Alabama football, right, or Kaylen de Boor
now coaching the Islanders.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Put it on the poll first. When you think Peter
de Boor, do you, of course think of Kaylan de Boor. No,
So you're asking, would Kaylin de Boor be a better
hockey coach than Peter Debor would be a college football coach? Yep? Wow,
I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'm trying to get all my Peter de Boor knowledge.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yes, now that's not really taking that lot and I
usually save all my thinking for Thursday. This is this
is a difficult one. It's Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I'm only thinking half as hard on Thursday. Yes, so
you know, oh no, we're off never mind, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Know this feels like a very clear answer here where
Kaylan de bor is struggling with the Alabama expectations. You
give him a different sport. I'm worried about him crumbling. Yeah,
I think a hockey guy translates to coaching football.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, but a lower bar if he were coaching the Islanders,
not nearly as much pressure. He's not. You know, he's
not replacing Nick Saban. It is listen, You're not replacing
al Arbor, who in the eighties won four straight Stanley
Cup with the Islanders, went to a fifth, lost to Edmonton,
and then Gretzky went on a run. Okay, he's replacing nobody.
I mean, I think Kaylen de Boor would be a
great hockey coach.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I say this having lived in the New York market
for pretty much my whole life. There is nothing like
that Alabama job when it comes to pressure to win.
I would if I'm Kaylin d Boor. I'm trying to
make this happen.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, yes, right, as opposed to being the eye onder coach.
No one cares. I mean, geez mah, no, we cares, right,
I mean, you know whatever, Mike and Garden City, Billion
Ocean Side, you know, Jimmy and Long Beach, They're the
only people that care. If the Islanders are good, you know. So,
has Taylor de Boor actually won anything? No? No, I
(36:36):
mean no.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Peter de Boor has gotten closed and never actually won
anything either. But I think Kaylen's been further away from
real winning than Peter.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Has.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
He lost in the championship to Michigan.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Outside of that, he's got a lot of Coach of
the Years in his resume, but not a lot of championships.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Has he ever won anything? He was sixteen minutes away
from winning the whole damn thing.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
So the answer is no, because he didn't win that
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
A few poll questions to get the show started today. Taylor,
please put it on the pole at Stegot seven ninety
one X when Luca puld A Hammy was Nico smiling
on the inside. Also, are you a bench below the
court guy? Yes? Or no? Hm? I don't like it. It
(00:49):
scares me. Also put this on the pole, tailor. Is
Lloy Vaught sitting around going, hey, what about us? Oh? Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
In the other Michigan here double double machine?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, yeah, what do you mean? What about us?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Is nobody mentioning Lloyd Vaught or that team in particular?
I feel like that team has been mentioned, just the.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Fab five getting all the you know, praise. They didn't
win anything, Lloyd Vaught, Terry Mills, Rameil Robinson, Glenn Rice.
They won a national championship. No one talks about it.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It was the first question on that pole.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
When Luca pulled a hammy. Was Nico smiling on the inside?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Does anybody know what Nico's doing anymore?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I smiling on the inside.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I just told you I saw a video of him
at an airport and he's got a fly commercial these days,
and so that's not the greatest. I'm pretty sure he's
just trying to be in hiding as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Last poll here Justin Jackson going to join us, but
Monti Jones going to join us an hour number two.
You could spend a day with one group, the Fab
five or the starting five from last night's National Championship game.
Who you got Fab five?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Currently?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm sorry for the follow up. So this is the
currently this?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Then this is the modern day Fab five? What happened
last night? Those are five guys all came through the
transfer portal playing their first season together. It's the modern
day equivalent of the Fab five. We're never going to
see five freshmen come in at the same time and
make a run to the championship game and then lose.
We're never going to see that again. But you had
five guys come together through the portal from different schools,
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playing in their first season together, and they went on
to win a national championship.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Instead of the Fab Five, since they're transfers, can we
call them the trans five?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I don't think we can do that.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I don't know, can we I don't think we can.
Dangerous Gape eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That
is eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox again.
Justin Jackson going to join us because Taylor's producing the show.
He's producing his show tomorrow. Willie Randolph, Wow, I would
love Willy Randolph. I know you.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Anybody got a number for him? I do Willy Randolph.
I graduated with his daughter. He was the commencement speaker
at my graduation.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I wish you hadn't told them. Let me seriously, so
Willie Randolph, I was joking seriously going to be on
the show tomorrow. Is it your thoughts last night? Dan
Hurley going for three national championships over the last four years.
He still has two. It's pretty good. Made it to
the final game three times in four years. I'm not
certain how many people like him. But the alternative is,
(03:22):
you know, is a coach that people for Michigan that
people find to be very boring.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I mean, so Yukon has done so much winning overall,
but also lately under Hurley. Yeah that I forgot that
they won back to back championship when they.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Were going for three out of four because I said this.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
And thank you guys for not noticing and you know,
picking up my my mistakes. But I said at some
point about the Gators not repeating. I think I said
the last team to repeat won't be the next team
to repeat. Yeah, completely forgetting that Yukon just repeated a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And so my bad that retroactively.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know what's crazy is last night felt like a
game that Yukon was gonna steal, yes and forever be
that championship team, right, the team that had the grit
that found away.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But Michigan was ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Like when I said this yesterday, I regret sounding ridiculously
surprised when Seth Davis picked Michigan into it all the
level of you know that my voice got when I said,
really he picked them.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
To be fair to us, we were fresh off the
Arizona Sweet sixteen victory. We thought they were the best
team in the country. And we learned that they weren't.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We were drunk off of Arizona. Let's be real.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And then then you start realizing, oh, no, Michigan has
been the best team in this tournament the entire time.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And I remember back in two thousand and was it
six or seven, which everyone was the first one of
the Gators back to back championships and Jason Williams White
Chocolate Jason Williams was on the Miami Heat at the time,
and as a former Gator we used to chat about
all the time. And after the second round of that tournament,
and this is the Gators that weren't supposed to win
it that year. They played George Washington et cetera second
(05:09):
game of that tournament, we both looked at each other
and said, they're the best team in the tournament. Yeah,
And that's because I was watching intently, right, If I
was watching intently as closely as I was that tournament,
for this tournament, Michigan was so obvious.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
It was so obvious. They're huge.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
They can't like, it doesn't matter what your bigs are,
you can't really get great shots around that size.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And then they have enough.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Guard play, enough shooting and enough talent around them where
it's just like it's.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
A better version of last year's Gators.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Marrow looked like he was eight foot five out there.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah so big.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yes, you mentioned the elevated courts or whatever, the benches
that are a little bit lower.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Vanderbilt has that right at their at their home arena.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah. I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, well, I hate it at Vanderbilt because the benches
are on the baseline and it's just like I gotta
yell all the way over there to talk.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
To my coach.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
But that somehow, some way makes the players look like
well obviously reasons, I guess now that you think about it,
that they're on a stage and then you throw in
their height and they look even taller.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Somehow.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I was terrified for Tracy Wolfson. I was anyone else
put it on the pole tailor where you're terrified for
Tracy Well Wolfson.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Doesn't she do the thing every year where she takes
a picture next to the tallest player that she interviewed,
And it's.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Just laugh out loud funny. The discrepancy.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
So Stu, you know who I feel bad for today.
I feel bad for Reid On Yukon. Yeah, because he
transferred from Michigan to Yukon, and now he's been at
Michigan and Yukon now and in his four years, those
teams have won three titles.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
He has zero. Just can't get it right, I mean,
he just can't reach the problem wherever he goes.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
He was great on the board, so I don't know
if he was the problem.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
He was so nice about his situation and he was
like whenever he talks about he's like Noel Will to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Love those guys. He had a great chance that Yukon
looked amazing, was huge, and the Duke comeback win only
to come up short.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But that seems impossible that he would be on both
those teams. They won three national championships in four years
and he hasn't won one.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Just flip his time with both teams and he'd have
three championships right now.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And if I'm reading mikeyy correctly, he is the problem.
Mikeyye doesn't care how well he played last night, doesn't
care how hard he hit the boards last night. He's
the problem. If he's on your team, you lose.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
There you go future, Nick.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Jet, I mean whatever.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
To further your point, Michigan was the best team all tournament.
But to a lot of people that watch college basketball,
Michigan was the best team all year. And in a
sport like March Madness, a sport like college basketball, it
does feel kind of rare to get to the end
of the season and be like, oh, the unquestioning best
team won the tournament. With how random it is to
(08:01):
a point where it does feel like an extra reason
to celebrate this Michigan team.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Say, like, just dating back to last year, for example,
there's no way anybody in the first three months of
the season would have said Florida was your national champion, right,
and then they just got hot at the right time.
This was absolutely one of those years from start to finish,
the three losses where almost nothing, you know, just the
difference that the point differential in these games in the
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tournament just goes to show you when they're locked in,
doesn't matter the opponent, this team has like a fifteen
to twenty point advantage.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Stu, I have a ridiculous stat here. Okay, Michigan last
night became the first team since two thousand and nine
right to beat Yukon in the sweet sixteen or later.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Wow, I mean, listen to your point about who wins
these tournaments. Dan Hurley said, it it's a one game scenario.
Once you get to the NCAA tournament, you have to
win six one game scenarios. If we were playing Michigan
in a best of seven, of course you would take Michigan.
But in a one game scenario, anything could happen, and rarely,
and Hurley said this, does the best team in college
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basketball win the national championship. You can go back to
you know, NC State winning it, Villanova beating Georgetown. Georgetown
was the best team in the country that year, but
in a one game scenario, Villanova could slow it down,
play four corners on offense, and milk the clock and
win that game. And that's what happened. And so you
rarely get the best team winning the NCAA tournament. It's odd.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
And that's why I feel like coaching a little bit
more important in college basketball in terms of winning the championship, yes,
than it is in NBA basketball, because over a seven
game series, you put you know, eight talented NBA, smart
NBA players out there, they can figure it out from
one game to the next. In a one game setting,
your coach has to have you absolutely ready, and Taylor
(09:52):
not to go off on a side tangent here. But
the more I think about the Michael Malone hire, the
more I like it. For you see, because he's just
established as somebody you have to listen to. And when
you do listen to him, he hammers home defensive principles
and wants you to play that hard all the time.
And frankly, if you're a college kid with any sort
of skill and you play that hard and listen to him,
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you're gonna do well.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I think I think Taylor is starting to come around
Michael Malone.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, warming up. I wish you would go by Mike
Malone sometimes, just because it's a little it's a lot
easier to just say Mike Malone when you're talking as
much as we are.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I don't have to call him Michael, do I Because
I'm not going to call him Michael. I mean, he's
Mike Malone.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
I call him coach.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I call him Mike Maloney.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, what all the time?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
When did we stop saying coach something and start calling
them by their full names? Because I remember back in
the day, like even in college, we were encouraged to say, hey,
coach Spurrier or coach Meyer.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I think if you're a coach or a coach for life,
I mean that's it. Yeah, you do you think that?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, But I'm just wondering when we started using full
names on coaches, because it used to be understood it
it's cool if we just call him coach or coach
and his last name.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
I think that's some point these big jay journalists started
pushing back on that, being like, hey, I went to
journalism school. I'm not calling anybody coach. And then somebody
said it disrespectful. Somebody said it to me.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Are you looking at is hey?
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Somebody said it to Dion Sanders, and Dion was like,
call me coach. Yeah, and then it's right, yep, exactly,
coach Prime.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I'm with him.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Well, he was specifically wanted you to call him coach Prime,
which to me.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Is a little bit of an issue.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
But in terms of calling somebody coach versus their first name,
I kind of understand that. Like, I don't think that
you're demeaning the journalist by saying, hey, call me coach.
It's just what you're used to. It's just what you
want to hear. And I'm totally fine with it. It's
not disrespectful of the person calling you coach.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I sent a text to Phil Martelli Junior, who joined
us a couple of weeks ago, and he's going to
do more sports radio. Well, I sent them a text.
I sent it as coach Martelli. He said, call me Phil.
I said, I will not do that, and he said, okay,
because I respect the coaches. I do. Once you're a coach,
you're always a coach. I mean, listen the bartender and cheers.
(12:02):
We called him coach. Well after he was done coaching
and he was bartending Jonathan coachman coach, how about that.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'm not gonna lie. Until this moment, I did not
know he was a coach.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
But I think if you're a coach, you have earned it.
You've earned that. They all want to be called coach.
They do, don't they. I think, well, you think Bobby
Knight wanted to be called Bobby? Get out of here.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I think college coaches, in particular, because they're you know,
they're athletes, their pupils will call them coach more often
than not. It just feels right. And when you're moving
from your players to the journalists, I don't mind. Just
requesting it, like, if it's an ego thing, fine, it's
not gonna hurt my ego to call you coach, just
answer my questions.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Is he One of the other things I've seen what
Michael Malone is that one of the biggest complaints of
him in the NBA was it was kind of his
way or the highway correct, and some people do think
that will translate well to the college basketball world, where
you're not really having to deal You're having to deal
with the nil and recruiting, but you're not really having
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to deal with the egos so much once they're on campus.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
You pretty much only have to deal with in terms
of any sort of egos colliding is your own assistance.
And if you hire people, maybe the you know, the ad,
but he's not gonna come tell you basketball in denounced.
He's just gonna, you know, deal with the whole program.
So yeah, I think if you can hire assistance that
you can communicate properly with This is exactly the arena
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for him because it is his way or the highway.
As it is with most college coaches. They don't take
a lot of anything from anybody and it's just their way,
and frankly, the second it shows to work, then they're
just going to dig in and do it even more
and it's going to double down, et cetera, et cetera.
So you almost have to establish that if you're a
college coach.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
The most impressive thing about Michigan, if you asked Dan
Hurley before the game, where do you want this game played,
meaning in terms of numbers score, he would tell you
in the sixties, that's the best chance I have at
beating Michigan. And it was sixty nine sixty three, and
he still lost. Michigan defends very well and Michigan's best
player was hurt, and they still got it done and
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they still won the national championship.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
So is nobody saying what I think I'm about to
say because they like to be very nice to these
college players.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Hey, Alex Cara Ben hit a shot man.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That dude was.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I think he was zero for five before that one
that he hit to get the Duke rally going. So
he was what one for six maybe one for five
in that game, and this when he ends up three
for ten. Two of those who are pretty late and
they kind of nothing situation, My guy, if you're the
senior that everybody loves give me some moments.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
In the last game.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I am so proud of you. I really, I've never
been more attracted to you.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
He is he When when I have Michigan in the
bracket pool to win and I didn't hedge before, I'm
going into that game and I'm counting, I'm counting the money.
When Michigan's up double digits, then they cut it to four,
Yukon starts pressing. Caraban puts up a three to cut
it to one. Yep, and my heart dropped to the floor.
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And then I saw it clang off the rim, and
I was.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Like, that's God.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Even the one where the fast break where they could
have cut it back to four again, and they blew
that one because they kind of rushed the shot a
little bit when the defense was coming. They could have
slowed it down. I was like, Man, Yukon has had
so many opportunities, and that's why I said they're so
well coached. They were so ready to steal this one,
but it just.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Wasn't meant to be.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Taylor. The sea in Caravan stands for clank. He's been
to three final fours in four it it's also a
cab oh I don't care that was the joke.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I mean, Jesus, I was just gonna ask you if
the news, But I can't believe where passing that kid today.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I mean he went to three title games in four
years and won two of them. Well, they're gonna have
to replace him. Yes, Justin Jackson coming up Willie Randolph tomorrow.
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He's a twenty seventeen National Champion ACC Player of the Year,
CONSETTSUS First Team All American played at Carolina. Taylor loves him.
He loves Taylor, and he's doing media work for Phil MBA.
He hasn't an NBA champion as well. I love that app.
And he's doing media stuff for the Field of sixty eight.
What are you doing with Field of sixty eight?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Man, I'm just filling in whenever they need me.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
And then I guess at the start of January, I
started with the ACC Network too, So we're just kind
of seeing where this goes.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Mane. I see your jersey from college hanging right behind
you on the wall. Do you have a jersey hanging
anywhere in Chapel Hill.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
It's somewhere up there. Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you
walk in the gym you can find it somewhere, but
I'm not totally sure where it might be.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
When you say somewhere, you mean in the rafters of
the Dean Dome, right, I mean yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
I'm pretty sure it's up there with some with some
other other jerseys that they decided to hang up.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
So I'm definitely blessed for that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Okay, Taylor, would you like to tell Justin where your
jersey is hanging in Chapel Hill?
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Go ahead, So I've won at Pantanna Bob's and then
one at the Pizzaia hYP three be.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
More specific, Yes, right next to the bathroom Pantanna Bob at.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
That It's a legend, so I can see it. I
can definitely see it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I want to start with the National Championship Game, but
I feel like that would be a waste of time.
I know Taylor wants me to ask you about Mike Maloney.
Mike Maloney, Michael Malone becoming the next head coach at
North Carolina. It's a totally on North Carolina thing to do,
to go outside of the family. What were your thoughts.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
I mean, I was shocked at first, but then whenever
you start to you start to break down the fact
that his daughter is at school when he was fired.
If I'm not mistaken, he did a lot of He
spent a good amount of time around the program, whether
that was at practices with the coaches, things like that.
So once I thought about that and added that up,
I wasn't too shocked. Now I am shocked because in
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my opinion, I didn't think he should have been fired
from the NBA. So I was a little more shocked
from the standpoint of if he's getting back into coaching.
I'm sure there's NBA jobs available, but look, we'll take them.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
We'll definitely take them.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
I think a lot of people are excited to kind
of see what his name brings. Obviously his coaching speaks
for itself, being an NBA champion, but kind of what
he brings and kind of what the new look of
the Tar Hills will look like.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Justin I kind of want to circle back to the
previous coach. And obviously you won a championship with Roy.
What was the problem then with Hubert? What wasn't the
same from one coach to the next.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
I mean, it's tough.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
Coach Williams, in my opinion, is, if not the best,
one of the best college basketball coaches of all time. Right,
So to have somebody come in right after that, it's
going to be some really massive shoes to fill. When
you look at Coach Davis's, you know, five years, most
people would say it was a pretty successful five years
of coaching, right. And I think that's what's so difficult
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for the coaches that come through North Carolina is when
you talk about the standard, standard's pretty high, right, and
that standard was set from not just coach Williams, coach Smith,
all the coaches that have come through and the players
that have come through. And so I think the difficult
part was people had this image of what, you know,
that standard of North Carolina basketball is, and I think
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at times didn't take until count the changing landscape of
college basketball as well, right, And I think that's kind
of where you saw it. And then obviously that loss
to VCU is a tough one. And I think when
that happened, I mean I've said this multiple times. If
they win, and they even go on to lose by
thirty to Illinois, I don't think we're having the discussion
of Mike Malone being the head coach, right, I think
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we're talking about what transfers are we going to get in,
what recruits are coming in, that whole sort of thing.
And so I think that's the difficult part of it was.
I think the VCU game for a lot of people,
especially in the decision making process, kind of saw that
as you know, do we make the decision to go
in a different route or do we bring them back?
And obviously you know they decided to go in a
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different route.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Justin when they're talking about candidates for the North Carolina job.
One of the things that always comes up is they
have to understand what it means to be a part
of the Carolina family, even if they're not a part
of that Carolina family directly. What does that Carolina family
look like to you and kind of mean to you?
Speaker 9 (20:59):
I mean, it looks different for me and probably the
majority of former players, right it looks like going back
in the summer and playing pickup. It looks like going
back for camp, playing in the camp game versus the
current players coming back for games throughout the season and
kind of feeling the love and walking through that tunnel
and feeling that that, to me, is what Carolina family
is about. But it also goes deeper than that, right,
(21:21):
Like I'll never forget my first time playing against Marvin
Williams in the NBA.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
And I had really met.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Marvin probably once or twice before playing against him, and
you know, we met up at half court during warm ups,
and it was as if we had interacted a ton before, right,
And so it just goes deeper than that, And so
I think that's something that can translate. Obviously, he doesn't
have a connection other than his daughter playing volleyball, but
I think it can go, it can stay the same
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even with somebody new at the head.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Justin you had really high praise there for Roy Williams. Obviously,
I don't think anybody would argue with you. I'm curious
from what you've learned or what you've figured out or
knew from Michael Malone, what things that Roy did especially
well that translated to the college students at the time.
Can Michael sort of try to replicate or do you
think he has in his coaching bag if.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
You will, well, I mean you talk about I mean,
he's a genius when it comes to x's and o's, right,
like you talk about those Denver Nuggets teams that he coached.
Obviously he got lucky having a guy like Jokic and
then a guy like Jamal Murray kind of being the
two guys at the top.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
But that also goes back to coaching as well.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
He was there from the beginning with those guys, right,
he put things around around them, a system and things
like that.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Finding how good Yolkic is, right, that's a huge.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
Part of it, exactly.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
And nowadays if you talk about talent scouting or being
able to find good talent in the transfer portal and
things like that. You've got to have an eye for that, right.
You don't have guys that are just staying three four
years like Coach Williams was obviously blessed to have and
guy stayed because it was coach Williams in North Carolina.
But you don't have that necessarily now and so you
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got to be able to in you know, a few
weeks really nowadays, you got to be able to say, Okay,
you know what, that fits what I'm trying to do.
This fits what I'm trying to do. And I think
Mike Malone did that great with Denver, and it's funny.
You know, people have talked about how he's like an
old school coach, right and how he holds everybody accountable.
That was one of the things that coach Williams always
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did right. It didn't matter if it was me the
ACC Player of the Year my junior year, or if
it was a walk on in practice right that didn't
do something correct. He was going to hold whoever it
was accountable because it was a bigger goal.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
I think that's.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
Something that obviously, you know, you got to kind of
taper back a little bit. You're not dealing with grow men,
you're dealing with kids and people trying to figure it out.
But I think that's something that can translate well to
to you know, kind of coming into this program of Hey,
we've got a certain standard and a system that we're
running and there's no letdowns from that, and that kind
of falls into the Carolina way or the family that
you want to talk about.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Justin you mentioned how he's trying to find people that
what he wants to do. How much of it is
bringing in the right people to do what you want
to do versus adapting what you do to what you have.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
I think it's a good mix.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
Honestly, and that's kind of why I think when you
look at the people that he's going to bring it
around him, I think it's important to have people that
have been around the college space for a while right,
have seen the differences and the changes and the transitions
that we've seen through college basketball.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Well.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Also, I wouldn't mind seeing an NBA guy come in
as far as player development or things like that. I
think that's really key as well. And so I think
you know, when you talk about him as a coach,
it's going to be just as important the staff and
the people that come in around him. And it also
goes as far as you know, who are we bringing
in from the transfer portal, right like now with the
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freshman and transfer portal, what fits what he's looking for,
but also what maybe we still have there when he
comes in or things like that. So it's I think
that's going to be the big thing to see, is
that transition for him, but also the help that he
has with him through that transition.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Justin any Carolina fans that are skeptical about the hire,
how much of that skepticism do you think comes from
what they just saw with Bill Belichick in football all
of it.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I was waiting for Bill Belichick question.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
I mean, the tough part about where college sports is
in general, right is you have to have the money,
period like that.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
That's just the way it is.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
And I don't know. Once again, I'm not in any
decision making rooms. I'm not any really any conversations when
it comes to decision making for any athletics at North Carolina.
But if you don't have the money, and you don't
have the money to pay players, then you could have
a Bill Belichick in the seat and it just might
not translate, right, and so I think that's another aspect
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of not only the staff that you know, Mike Malone
brings in, but also making sure that we have the
money to be able to divvy out to these players
that maybe they're wanting to go after to now bring
in the talent. Now, the coaching takes over once you
have the talent sitting in the locker room. And so
I think that's a big part. I mean, somebody asked me,
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I think it was this morning, actually, they asked me
about kind of the whole brand conversation, right, and when
you talk about the brand of these different teams North Carolina,
Duke Kansas, everybody's.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Taking a hit, right.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
The brands aren't the same anymore, because the number one
conversation that you're having is the money aspect. How much
can I get? You know, like where can I sign
on the dot line for this? And then we'll talk
about okay, you know what, I like that interlocking and
see right, like that's that's just the reality of college
sports now. And so I think if we have that
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in place and we have good people around coach Malone,
I think his ability to coach and his ability to
hold people accountable and have a certain standard.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
I think we could. I think we could be right
back to where we need to be.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Who would have thought Bill Belichick would have staying on
the university. Rewind a year and a half, he'd be like, Wow, yes,
Now it's just like.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So justin if I told you you could hand pick
any coach you wanted to be the next head coach
at North Carolina, anyone, and it's your decision and yours alone,
who you're going with, who's doing it better than everyone else?
Right now? Oh?
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Man, See, that's a tough that's a tough question because
now that I'm in the media space, I have to
try to be as unbiased as possible.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It depends on.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
The guy.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
The guy down the road at Duke is doing an
unbelievable job, right I would never say, hey, we need
to go, we need to go grab him.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Be careful, soul.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
It's a dangerous it's a dangerous game.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It is.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
But but when I like when when the conversations were
happening with coaches, A guy that I loved is t
j Alsburg Iowa State, Like, I love what he does there.
Obviously you talk about Dusty Mayheck, he just won I
see the Michigan hat.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
He just won a national championship. Right, He's a.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
Really really good coach. Tommy Lloyd, I love Tommy Lloyd.
So there was good options and all the names that
were thrown around. And I also see from their perspective
of hey, I'm getting paid, I'm having the nil come
in where I'm at. I can build a program up
exactly how I want it to be, and I'm not
having to come in kind of with the circumstances that
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North Carolina has been in. So I can see it
from both sides. But those coaches, I mean, I don't
think you could have went wrong with any of them.
And I think, you know, the Mike Malone higher, I
don't think it's a panic or a settle by any means.
So I think it's it's exciting to have him in.
But those are some of the coaches I liked.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Has Michigan entered the all time best team conversation?
Speaker 9 (28:44):
Who team construction? I think it has to be in
the conversation. I will say that, wow. I mean the
tough thing about the game against Yukon, Michigan really didn't
even play well and they still want a national championship, right,
And so I think that you know, when you talk
about it. For me, the best team ever assembled is
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and in my mind is that Kentucky team that we
played against, that Platoon team. They didn't even win a
national championship, but that team was loaded from one to ten.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
But I mean you have.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
To you look at some of these I mean they
went on a streak where they beat teamed by forty,
like five or six games in a row and things
like that, So I mean they got to be I
guess you got to put them in a conversation, but man,
they were a gauntlet. I loved Arizona and what they
did to Arizona I think kind of solidified that they
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were the best team in college basketball at that point.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Stu.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
What you might not be aware of is that me
and Justin used to play video games together and I
would use Justin as a sounding board for some of
my takes. So, Justin, I have an unpopular opinion when
it comes to March Madness that I want to run
by you one shining moment, the most overrated tradition in
all in all of sports blasphemy.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
I mean, it's probably the most overrated thing for the
teams that don't win it. I will say that for
the teams, the teams that don't win it, I don't
want to hear none of that. The year that we
lost in the championship, turn it off, please.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
There were no shining moments for you, right, I'm with you.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Yeah, But the team that won it, it is something
that you've always seen and you know, you kind of
fall into that aspect and it's it's pretty special once
they show you at the end of it. But I mean,
it's not a bad it's not a bad take when
it comes to the teams that you know, when it
comes to Yukon walking off the floor, that's not a
terrible take.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Can I go back real quick? What was that best
team ever that you said? Which Kentucky team?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
What was that?
Speaker 9 (30:46):
I think that was my freshman year twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.
I think they lost to Wisconsin. Yeah, Booker played deep,
book played like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
I mean they had guys everywhere.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
They had the Harrison Twins, they had Cat, they had
Willie cally Stein, they and everybody.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, but you're in the media game now, like you
got you understand what they're doing with one shining moment right,
it's just to keep you around till midnight. You get it, right,
I mean it's.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
You got to keep you got to keep people locked
in as as best as you can.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
So I definitely understand from that perspective too.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
But there are no shoting moments. Only one team as
a shining moment, is what you're saying.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
Yeah, I mean even the teams maybe that like had
crazy buzzer beaters or crazy moments in the tournament that
are at home watching.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
It like doesn't have It's not the same.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
It's not the same feeling as you being up there
on the stage watching it.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Like.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
It's just not you know, it doesn't connect the same.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You play, Taylor and video games. Who wins more you? Taylor?
Speaker 9 (31:43):
You know what's crazy. We talked about it. I've got
two kids now and me and Vip have not played.
I mean it's been a it's been a minute at
this point, Like this was during.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
My kids will do that so a lot.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Yeah, my playing career when I would have you know,
road trips and stuff like that, and I was free,
but VIP it depended on what game. Majority of the time,
video games was kind of my that was my spot.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
He's being very humble right now. He's being very humble
right now. Whenever we would play a shooter video game,
he would have to carry me and I was just
his backpack.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
Gladly. He was a great He was a guy. You know,
you need your back you know what I'm saying. You
just have the visuals. They might not ever do anything really,
but they're at least gonna have great call outs and
they're gonna have great communication that everywhere.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Most of the pros have hand eye coordination that the
rest of us don't know about.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
So it helps with video games too.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Does he still wear you at with sports stakes or what? Uh?
Speaker 8 (32:40):
You know?
Speaker 9 (32:40):
He there for a while, he would, he would come
in pretty hot with him.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
He hasn't. He hasn't come with anything really here lately.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
I'm sure now that you're saying that, I'm sure I'll
start getting you know, I.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Mean, And I'm always.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Down for him because I love a little back and forth.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
So all right, and we appreciate the time. I'd like
to do this more often if possible. So Taylor is
going to continue to bother you. Check out his work
Thank you for having me, Yeah, man, check out his
work Field of sixty eight We appreciate it, man, and
we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
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Speaker 1 (33:41):
We only have a couple of minutes here. It is Tuesday,
so of course we're going to do a think about
It Thursday? Why not? I think we're off Thursday, and
so that's why we're doing it today. Yes, well, I
mean I am so Taylor wants to do it today.
So we need the image of I you.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
Know that segment talk about a Tuesday on Hot Men
Crowder in Soleiro. This is like that, but bigger, big
and better, and forty eight hours later, they seems think
about it Thursday on.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
A Tuesday welcome in. Do you think about it Thursday
on a Tuesday? Yes, so Stu gotts. The Islanders fired
Patrick Waugh yep as their head coach. They replaced him
with Peter de Boor.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
And when you hear the name Debor, you think Kaylan
de Boer at Alabama. So the think about it Thursday
is who would do better coaching the other person's sports?
Peter Deboor coaching Alabama football, right, or Kaylen de Boor
now coaching the Islanders.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Put it on the poll first. When you think Peter
de Boor, do you, of course think of Kaylan de Boor. No,
So you're asking, would Kaylin de Boor be a better
hockey coach than Peter Debor would be a college football coach? Yep? Wow,
I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'm trying to get all my Peter de Boor knowledge.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yes, now that's not really taking that lot and I
usually save all my thinking for Thursday. This is this
is a difficult one. It's Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I'm only thinking half as hard on Thursday. Yes, so
you know, oh no, we're off never mind, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Know this feels like a very clear answer here where
Kaylan de bor is struggling with the Alabama expectations. You
give him a different sport. I'm worried about him crumbling. Yeah,
I think a hockey guy translates to coaching football.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, but a lower bar if he were coaching the Islanders,
not nearly as much pressure. He's not. You know, he's
not replacing Nick Saban. It is listen, You're not replacing
al Arbor, who in the eighties won four straight Stanley
Cup with the Islanders, went to a fifth, lost to Edmonton,
and then Gretzky went on a run. Okay, he's replacing nobody.
I mean, I think Kaylen de Boor would be a
great hockey coach.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I say this having lived in the New York market
for pretty much my whole life. There is nothing like
that Alabama job when it comes to pressure to win.
I would if I'm Kaylin d Boor. I'm trying to
make this happen.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, yes, right, as opposed to being the eye onder coach.
No one cares. I mean, geez mah, no, we cares, right,
I mean, you know whatever, Mike and Garden City, Billion
Ocean Side, you know, Jimmy and Long Beach, They're the
only people that care. If the Islanders are good, you know. So,
has Taylor de Boor actually won anything? No? No, I
(36:36):
mean no.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Peter de Boor has gotten closed and never actually won
anything either. But I think Kaylen's been further away from
real winning than Peter.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Has.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
He lost in the championship to Michigan.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Outside of that, he's got a lot of Coach of
the Years in his resume, but not a lot of championships.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Has he ever won anything? He was sixteen minutes away
from winning the whole damn thing.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
So the answer is no, because he didn't win that
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