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June 3, 2026 37 mins

Stugotz and company preview game one of the NBA Finals as Taylor offers up his latest Knicks song. Stu and the fellas welcome MMA reporter and commentator Ariel Helwani onto the show to talk about his Knicks and what the latest is in the fight world. Stugotz and company play a round of "Hand Up!".

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Let's give. If you're listening to Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Radio, we have a loaded show for you today. We
apologize for all the guests over the last two days.
But I ain't saying no to Ariel Holwani when the
Knicks are playing in the NBA Finals. I pause there
because people might say, well, why wouldn't you say no
to him today?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
That's the exact guy you should say no to.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
It.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
No.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
I think Ariel represents exactly what Nick fans are thinking
and going through, as well as anyone that I have
spoken to, and so I want the audience to get
a piece of that.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I want to share that with him because he is
going insane, He's emotional, and I want to talk to
him about being a nick fit and what this means
to him, what a big night is he.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
I'm not gonna lie. I'm kind of overwhelmed by Knicks fans.
I might sit out this one with Ario.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
We have Lucy Rodin as well.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Welcome back to Lucy and Michelle Beadle, the most famous
San Antonio Spurs fan we've had on since Chay Serrado.
She will join us coming up. I'm finding them in
hour number two. I want to try to get a
bet together with Taylor and Beatle.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Go ahead, Taylor.

Speaker 7 (01:25):
The more people keep saying the words the Knicks and
the NBA Finals together, and the closer we get to
tip off, I feel like I'm getting sick, really, and
my nerves are buildings saying I've got people texting me
that I haven't talked to in years, and they're texting
me wishing me good luck tonight, Like I'm starting at
shooting guard and I'm playing forty plus minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
You know what's great about this, Taylor? Because I thought
about this too. I was like, Man, what would I
feel like if I was a Knicks fan. I'm just
thankful this first two games are not at MSG, like
they need this time to acclimate themselves to the.

Speaker 8 (02:02):
Big lights, the pressure of it all.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
It's like I was saying yesterday Karl Anthony Towns is
probably gonna show you some old Karl Anthony town stuff,
Like he's maybe a little nervous early on, maybe just
might pick up three fouls just so he can recover
and center himself on the bench.

Speaker 8 (02:16):
But yeah, I think it's helpful because MSG.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Right, imagine Taylor game one, Like, it's one thing if
they come in two oh, if they win to in
San Antonio, it's gonna be the craziest building ever.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's gonna be a party.

Speaker 8 (02:29):
Yes, if they go down oh two, yeah, they'll be
a little calmer.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, you're gonna be nervous because you're down oh two.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
Yes, but imagine if you were just kicking off at MSG.
It would be wild.

Speaker 8 (02:38):
So I think right now it's good sort of get
used to the finals, get used to San Antonio, which
is not too intimidating of a venue, yes, and then
come home.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I like the take.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
It's odd you're saying so, just so we're clear on this,
the Nicks are going to be more relaxed playing on
the road than they would be playing in front of
their home fans.

Speaker 8 (02:55):
It's not a terrible take.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
It's the most pressure packed place, as you know you're
the home team, and all these celebrities and these ridiculous
fans and all this history is yelling at you the
entire time.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Go ahead, Mikey. It's walking into the pool instead of jumping.

Speaker 9 (03:10):
Yes, correct, going in San Antonio, You walk in, you
get used to it.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yes, step, yes, as opposed to jumping in.

Speaker 8 (03:16):
I'm freezing and I'm gonna walk into the pool.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Guy, Right, it's dipping your toe in the water essentially,
is what it is. Yes, are you will walk into
the pool?

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I'm not a jump in gay. I have Mike as
a cannon ball every time he goes into the pool.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
No, uh, after the first one, and then I'll get
out and jump in a bunch. Is he for this
next team? I'm thinking about it tonight. San Antonio is
not the building that that Knicks fans can take over
where they have in the past in these past couple
of series. You're looking at the Atlanta series, You're looking
at the Cleveland series, You're looking at the Philadelphia series.

(03:48):
I can't remember the last time the Knicks played a
game that was actually a true road atmosphere.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
There are very few NBA cities where a New Yorker
would not want to relocate right like San Antonio does
not feel like a playle list where the New Yorkers
I'd be like, Yeah, I'm just gonna go live in
San Antonio. Miami great, you know some of the Atlanta great.
San Antonio not so much. So they can't take it.
And now imagine, like imagine a few Knicks do infiltrate

(04:15):
whatever the Spurs arenas called these days, and then they
don't put on the T shirts and then you just
got like a smattering of Knicks orange and blue, like
just an eye sore in the middle of that, you know, artwork.
That is the San Antonio crowd. That would be.

Speaker 8 (04:28):
Great for Nicks.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
They didn't take over, you know, the Spurs building, but
they made it obvious that they were there.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Do you think anyone inside the Knicks organization is thinking
along the lines the way is he is thinking in
terms of, hey, happy to be on the road for
the first two. Let's dip our toe in the water.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
They don't have home court advantage. If there's a Game seven,
it's on San Antonio's own court.

Speaker 7 (04:51):
I do agree that you want game seven in your building,
you want Game seven in Madison Square Garden. But I
do think there is something there to what is he saying?
Where if the Knicks just steal one of the first
two games, the series shifts back to them, where the
opposite all the pressures on you to protect your home court.
I don't think this is the worst spot for the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
To be in.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
I don't either, And I think game even though game
game one is sort of normally the most anomaly type
of game of a series, but I think this is
going to be.

Speaker 8 (05:20):
Sorry, Taylor, I think this is a Spurs game tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I think if we already saw what was I mean,
technically it is a Spurs game tonight, it's a Knicks game.

Speaker 8 (05:29):
Is I think the Spurs will win the game tonight?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yes, Steve.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
If you remember the previous series, the Cavs series, what
was the closest game, Game one, and it was after
a ton of rest. Yes, And so I feel like
you might be able to might sort of recreate that, right.
The Knicks may be sort of figuring things out, the
Spurs riding a little bit of that momentum and being
at home, and they take game one. But Game two

(05:52):
for me, steals feels imminently stealable.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yes, this feels like rest versus slightly less rest right,
And I got news for you, san Antonio.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Is he better be right? You better get tonight's Gabe.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
If you let the Knicks get out to like an
eighteen to two lead and they just steamroll you on
your home court, series is a rap. It's over. And
if they don't do that, the Knicks will still win
in five. But don't let us get started. Do not
let us get started?

Speaker 9 (06:21):
Go ahead, Mikey, this is sleep versus nap?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
All right?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Taylor who has written five Jalen Brunson songs because four
wasn't enough. Yes, and I'm certain there'll be more if
they win the NBA Championship. Here he has a message
album like Drake. Listen, this is a big night for Taylor.
I mean this guy changes life JA the biggest night
of his life. Yes, what happens is they lose here?
What are you gonna do? Like if they lose not

(06:48):
Game one, just the series in general?

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Like how was that?

Speaker 7 (06:51):
There's no coming back?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
You're trying not to think.

Speaker 8 (06:53):
About it really.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Like to the show like forever.

Speaker 7 (06:58):
I don't want to take it into a dark place.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Quick update, though you said you were thinking about leaving
Wednesday you're obviously still here in South Florida. It's not
obvious to everybody, obvious to me. What is the plans
are you traveling?

Speaker 7 (07:10):
My plan is to be in New York in time
for Game two, even though the game is in San Antonio, right.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But it's the biggest game of the series, as you know.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
So that's why, yes, exactly, Well, I ran into some hiccups.
You know, I've got a dog if the series go seven,
god forbid, and then I have to stay for the parade?
Is he I'm just trying to I was just trying
to gain any sort of favor I could with my
girlfriend in time for game two. So that's why I
kind of sacrificed Game one.

Speaker 8 (07:38):
I'm not going to tell her that. I'm not gonna
say that's saying spending time with her. It's called the sacrifice.
I'll keep that between us.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'll spend time with it.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Clip this Elipp send me the audio so I can
send it to her. He is such a big nick
fan that he named his dog Oakley, and so he
also has a message here and I'm very excited to
hear this message to Wenby in the form of a song.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Let's play it.

Speaker 10 (08:12):
Hey, wem bin Yama, Welcome into New York City. There's
a finals to be played, and I bet you will
play Soshi, Yes you will. Brunson will shine brighter than you.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
New York is dude.

Speaker 10 (08:31):
Hey wen bin Yama, you should worry about the Garden.
It's the mecca for a reason. You can go in
as James Harden.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
What a bump.

Speaker 10 (08:42):
Brunson and the boys will be the ones to end
your run. Oh first Titus in seventy three. Oh, first
titles since seventy three.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Oh, first Titusance seventy.

Speaker 10 (09:00):
Three, Yoh, first titles in seventy three titles in seventy three.

Speaker 8 (09:10):
All right, I'm just gonna say it's his best one day.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I got emotional.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
It moved me.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
It used to be where Taylor's singing was so bad
that I was just like, wow, this is hilarious because
it's bad.

Speaker 8 (09:22):
Yes, he puts some effort into that.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
He hit a couple of notes, not all of them, right,
not all of them, but he hit a couple of
notes that was nice.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
You know, I'm gonna ask for that again.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
The most miraculous thing about that is how he wove
webbin Yama into an actual song.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I'm like, how did he do this?

Speaker 8 (09:38):
Almost as hard as sent it to Koopa.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
One more time? I was it?

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Oh song choice, He's actually playing guitar, by the way
he is.

Speaker 10 (09:52):
Hey, wembin Yama, Welcome into New York City. There's a
finals to be played, and I bet you will play
soci Yes you will. Brunson will shine brighter than you.
New York is dude. Hey, when Bin Yama, you should

(10:12):
worry about the garden. It's the mecca for a reason.
You can go in as James Harden.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
What a bum.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
That's straight.

Speaker 10 (10:21):
Brunson and the boys will be the ones two end
You're run.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
Oh first titles.

Speaker 10 (10:30):
In seventy three, see you all lights, I have, Oh,
first titles since seventy three.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Got put one hand on your ear?

Speaker 10 (10:37):
Oh, first titles in seventy three. Oh, first title since
seventy three. Titles in seventy three.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
God, that makes me so sad.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
I was four years before I was born and you
guys haven't enjoyed anything.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
It makes me so proud.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
Beats though, I think I still have a hard time
keeping up with you.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, no, it's tough.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, So Taylor As we get closer to tonight's game,
you find yourself getting more and more emotional scared, for
lack of better term, because you don't want the Knicks
to embarrass themselves in the NBA Finals and get you know,
swept in four or lose this thing in five.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Right.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Yeah, so the Eastern Conference playoffs, I was confident. I
was confident that the Knicks could get here to this point. Yeah,
now it feels like all bets are off and it's
kind of like a Jesus take the wheel. You just
have to hope you're the better team for just four games.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
It's interesting too with with Wen ben Yama on the
way he thinks, right, so it was clear he thought
that OKC bad for the league, at least on top.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Of the league.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
Right, you got to shay the unethical hoops, you got
all the hacking, you got all the chat. I mean,
come on, I don't think Wen ben Yama can even
say anything negative or think anything super negative about the
Knicks potentially winning Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 8 (11:54):
Maybe he throws his head back, maybe.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
He flops a little bit, but comparison to SGA, not really,
and they've hadn't had it since seventy three has noted
by song and it's just hey, maybe it's their time.
The Garden's great. So I don't think Victor Wenbinyama has
that deep rooted hatred as much as he just really
wants to finish the deal.

Speaker 7 (12:13):
I think Wemby has that showman in him too, to
realize the spectacle of the Garden.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Like that's true.

Speaker 7 (12:18):
The Christmas Game, he put on an absolute show. But
there's also there was a clip going around of Spike
Lee and Victor wen Binyama at an All Star game
where Spike Lee goes up to Victor wen Binyama. They're
talking and Spike Lee's like, I hope to see you
in a finals, like we really want to see you
in the finals, and Victor wen Binyama to Spike Lee says,

(12:39):
I want to see you in the finals.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Two.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, why did Spike say that?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Why is he inserting himself into a series before the
series even starts. Well it worked, I mean he holds
onto this stuff in existence. I know, but I really
want to see you in the finals. And he saying, Oh,
he thinks I'm gonna be easy when I'm made to
the NBA Finals. If I play the Necks, and no
he's not. Because he embraces all of this stuff. He's
going to walk into the Mecca the first time playing
in an NBA Finals game thinking that's his building before

(13:04):
he's even played a game in the NPA Finals that matters.
Is stopping him up. No, this guy scares me. I
am so terrified of him.

Speaker 8 (13:12):
The word that you use there, he's not a guy.
He's an alien.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I don't know what he is, but he just like
he holds on to this stuff. Spike, leave it alone,
you know.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I am so terrify MSWMB.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
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Speaker 1 (13:37):
I am pleased to be joined by my friend Ariel
Halwani and Nick fan the Ariel Hawane Show live on.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
On Crowned and YouTube one pm Eastern.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
And Ariel is a big Knick fan, so we're not
here to talk to the fight game, although he is
the go to guy for the fight game. He is
here to talk about the New York Knicks and Ariel,
I gotta tell you, man, I am so excited. I
am going home tonight to do something I haven't done
since nineteen ninety nine. I'm gonna watch a Knick's Finals game.
How about That's?

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Uh, it's unbelievable, it really is. I'm actually going to
do my show right now, and it is about fighting,
and I gotta be honest with you. I can't concentrate.
I can't muster up the emotion, the passion. Yes, I
have such a stomach ache right now, Like I am
just perpetually nervous, and I can't get enough of all
the content. Last night, I was just sitting in bed

(14:28):
watching every single press conference, the open workout, looking at
them in front of that finals logo. We've been waiting
for this. It felt at one point like it was
never going to happen again in our lifetime, like they
dropped the video with Clyde narrating it. I woke up
this morning and I was showing my son that video
and he looked at me and he's like, are you crying?

(14:50):
And I'm like, yes, I'm crying. You don't realize you're
twelve years old. You don't realize how much we've suffered
and what this means to us. I want this sew
bad to you, guys. I can't even describe how badly
I want this, And to think that we are just
four wins away from as I've said a million times
over the past week to friends and family, a lifetime
of pain will be erased and a lifetime of angst

(15:11):
will be relieved if they can pull this off.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
Well said, and I really you didn't even mention the
image of Patrick Ewing wearing the twenty twenty six finals hat.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Oh God, Jesus, that broke me, man, that broke me.
There was a moment there at the end of Green
Patrick Ewings my favorite accid of all time. I became
a Ewing fan in nineteen ninety when I walk into
a shoe store as an eight year old, and my
older brothers playing a prank on me, say, don't buy
those Jordans, buy those shoes, those big, ugly, bulky shoes.

(15:39):
Buy the Ewings, and I'm like, all right, sure, guys, right,
And then I look him up in a magazine. I'm like,
all right, I guess this is my guy. And that's
how I fall in love with the Knicks back in
nineteen ninety and Patrick Ewing being my guy and So
when he was on the bench at the end of
Game four against the Cavs and they kind of zoomed
in on his face and then he puts the hat
on and it's Clyde to him to Brunson. It broke me.

(16:01):
I think every Nick fan wants this for themselves, but
I think they wanted for Patrick, they wanted for John,
they wanted for Charles, they wanted for Derek Harper, they
wanted for all those guys as well, and then of
course Houston and Spree and LJ and Chris Childs and
Charlie Ward. There's just so much that goes into this man.
And I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but
it's just mustering up a lot of emotion right now.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
How many times have you cried during this Finals run?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
I mean, oh my, I mean at this point, since
we've clinched, it's been on a daily basis, all the videos,
all the edits, the highlight reels. I saw a couple
of people who I respect, say Nixon seven, and I'm
just thinking to myself, I am so nervous before Game one.
I don't think I'll be able to survive seven games, Like,

(16:45):
could you imagine what that seventh game will feel like
game day. I don't know if my body can handle it.
I'm being one hundred percent honest. When they played the
Rockets in ninety four, like I was twelve years old
and I sat in a hotel room in Boston. I'll
never forget crying wearing my ewing jersey. But I was
twelve years old, like to me, time was infinite. Now
I'm staring at at us like I'm not gonna have

(17:07):
to wait another twenty seven years to see them again.
Why'd even be alive? Like is this my last chance?
And so it feels so much more daunting, it feels
so much more heavy at this time, Like that's why
I'm praying for a sweep. I know there's no chance
for a sweep, but I just kind of want to
fast forward, get this over with, and then relive it
all knowing how it all ends up.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
Harry All, I was making the argument to the guys
earlier this postseason that Jalen Brunson has changed my life,
and they laughed at me. They said it was an overreaction.
Do you agree or disagree with that sentiment? For diehard
Knicks fans that Jalen Brunson has changed their lives.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
He has to agree.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I mean, one million percent. I tweeted on the day
they signed them, this is the steal of the century.
And every so often after you know it is back
in twenty twenty two, every so often after he does
something amazing, I go back to that tweet and I
just look at the replies. Idiot, you'll regret this classic Nick.

(18:04):
What an awful deal, I mean, And honestly, like, did
I expect this so soon? Man? Maybe not, but I
knew he was going to be that guy that was
just some He's a winner and we saw it in
Villanova and the way he conducts himself, the way he
conducted himself after Game four against the Cavs. There's just
so much to like about him, and you know, the
connection with his dad and his connection to the Knicks

(18:25):
and all that, like, it just felt like there was
something magical and so yes, of course, I feel so lucky.
I have two boys who are fourteen and twelve, and
my two favorite teams are the Knicks and the Bills.
And the fact that I've been able to give them
Jalen Brudson and Josh Allen as their guys. I feel
like it's like the greatest things that I've ever been
able to do as a parent.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yes, I mean these spoiled kids. They haven't been through
the difficult times for either organization, Jesus. I mean, you know,
I mean lucky, very lucky Ariel, they missed it.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Like they just started to care about sports once Jalen
arrived and when Josh gets drafted, and I'm like you
the kaid, you have no idea. I mean, like for
those two teams, think about this for those two days.
Like the Knicks started to get really bad as of one, yeah,
and then oh one to thirteen, they're a laughing stock.
They win one playoff game, they finally win a playoff

(19:15):
series in thirteen. The Bills don't make the playoffs. Between
ninety nine and seventeen, I mean, it was awful. And oh,
by the way, in the midst of all that, my
favorite baseball team leaves town, the Montreal exposing for the
Montreal they leave town. That seventeen year stretch was absolutely miserable.
My kids waltz in here and they're getting generational run
after generational run, and I'm so happy. I don't want

(19:36):
them to suffer because let's be honest, if they were
born in like three, they probably would be thunder fans
right now or something like that. And that's the last thing.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I want bleep at David Sampson. Go ahead, Taylor.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Oh yeah, it started on them. I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I just I said it. You don't have decigny to
go ahead, Taylor.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
They your kids didn't have to go through the Antonio
mcdicce trade, the Stefan Marbury vast Selene, the Nate Robinson era,
the all the bad days. They didn't have to watch
Lou Munson. But do you think any part of you
looks back at those years and was like, you know what,
it's gonna make this finals run even better?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yes it hardened you?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Yes, yes, and no, man, because those were some awful years.
I mean it was awful. Like I would have gladly
taken a ring in two thousand and like I said,
be way less anxious here because I've said this to
my kids, like, if they pull this off, I don't
know if I will care as much. In fact, I
think I won't care as much, and I welcome that.
I don't want to feel that feeling after every playoff loss,

(20:37):
after every series loss, after a random, gut wrenching loss
in March, I don't want to care as much, to
be honest, I don't want it to dictate my mood
as much as it does. And I feel like, and
I ask my friends who have seen their teams win
a championship, like it changes, right, Like you care a
little bit less. Yeah, you care a little bit less,
and then you get lost in it if they go
for a repeat, et cetera, et cetera. And so those

(20:58):
years were all they were depressing. We were a joke,
We were a laughing stock. I didn't really I was there.
I watched it. I went to games. I moved to
New York. I tried to go as much as I can.
I got excited when you know, Porzingis came, when RJ.
Barrett came. You know, the lottery was our finals. That's
all we had to care about. But I mean, do
I wish that we were the Spurs winning you know,

(21:20):
five out of six? Yeah? Absolutely, that would have been
way cooler.

Speaker 7 (21:23):
Ariol We have a great research department here and they
came back with that. Your first Knicks game you ever
went to Madison Square Garden March of nineteen ninety five,
Patrick Ewing scored thirty four in a loss to the SuperSonics.
Is that kid going to be in the garden for
Game three?

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
First of all, thank you to your research department. Well
done to your research department. That's incredible.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Nineteen ninety five, well done. Yes. March eleventh, nineteen ninety five,
was my first time entering Madison Square Garden. I went
to Crosby's, bought my Charles Oakley jersey. I begged my
parents for years to take me to a game again.
I grew up in Montreal, and some people like are
are confused by that. I was never a real big

(22:08):
hockey fan. I was a kid who wanted to live
in New York because of the Knicks. I was obsessed
with all things New York because of the Knicks. And
they finally took me to a game. We were sitting
fourth to last row up at four hundreds, and Youveing
had a great game, but then got injured in the
fourth quarter and they ended up losing to the SuperSonics.
And so I've been lucky enough to go. I was

(22:29):
at Game three and nineteen ninety nine against the Hawks
and everyone's chanting. Jeff bang Gundy, Chris Dudley has a
great game. I've been to some playoff games this year
and previous years as well, and I'm doing everything in
my power to be there for Game three. In game six,
my daughter has a school play Game four. I'm not
going to miss it, but it would just be too

(22:49):
hard to go from where we live to the gardens,
so I think that's the right thing to do. But
I'm doing everything in my power to secure tickets for
three and six, not freebies. I'm not a celebrity, I'm
not Shalom, and I'm not still there. I just need
to be in the building. I don't have those tickets
as of now, but I'm going to do everything in
my power to be there. And I can't imagine what
it's going to be like. And I think you guys
can attest to this. It's fun being a fan. It's

(23:12):
a hell of a lot more fun when you're able
to raise fans to like the team that you grew
up liking as well. And so this morning, my twelve
year old son, who's in sixth grade, which is the
grade that I was in in nineteen ninety four, which
is the age that I was in nineteen ninety four
comes downstairs wearing his Ewing jersey, and again I cried.
I started to get emotional because that was me in

(23:35):
the ninety ninety four run. I had two jerseys at
the time, Ewing and Start, and I wore those same
two jerseys every single day for the entire run, rotating
one other one other. And so for him to pick
that one, He's got a town to brunts and a
heart and anenobe, but he picked my guy, number thirty
three of the captain. And I'm getting emotional now, guys

(23:55):
again talking about this, but it meant so much to me.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
No, I'm going to cry with you. I mean, this
is what it's all about. Yes, we have waited our
entire lifetime. It's the only thing that unifies that place
is this particular basketball team, the New York Knicks, and
they've been so lousy for so long. So I understand
you getting emotional when your kid comes down weary Patrick,
you wings jersey. As crazy as it sounds, I would
be weeping just like you.

Speaker 8 (24:20):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Man.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I'm so happy for you.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
I'm happy for all of us, but we all recognize
this is on it, and I'm terrified of what it
will feel like if it doesn't go our way.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Well, think about it, I just stop, No, not today,
don't think about it today.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Okay today listen.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Today we are four games, four wins away from winning
an NBA championship.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Don't think about what will happen if we don't win
those four games. Okay, let's just be positive, all right.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Can I ask you a question, as someone who lives
in Miami and you got to see all those great teams,
how much did that hurt you? Because I'm sure you're
covering it, You're in the midst of it. We suck
in that period, but there's probably an elements of jealousy
where you're like, am I ever going to experience this?
As like is the fan and me ever going to
experience what these people are experiencing right now while the
Heat are winning.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Extremely jealous during that entire rum with Lebron, with Wade
and Bosh.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
But also keep in mind, I am, listen, I'm used
to this.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
It can't get any worse than the Jets, So I
am I'm kind of numb to it at this point,
you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yeah, and then it all gets relieved, it all gets released.
I'm not sure. I can't. I can't speak on the Jets.
I would invite you to root for New York's only
football team, as a team that resides in Western New York.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm just checking off sports boxes right now before I
get out of here, you know what I'm saying. And
so like the Mets one one, the Islanders, they won four.
For me, the Knicks have a shot this year. And
I have already just said, hey, you know what, I'm
going to go my entire life without the Jets winning
a Super Bowl. I'm okay with that, as long as
the Knicks winning NBA title. And so that's why I'm
begging you to remain positive. Okay, I know, I know,

(25:57):
I know I have to.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I have to. I'm just I'm I'm a pessimistic person.
I'm perpetually negative, and I fear the word. I mean,
come on, when when all of a sudden, we're riding
high and you get the tweet, it's like Mitchell Robinson
has a broken pinky, and but what what did he do?
Is this how it happens? Is it some yesterday I watched?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yes, but fortunately it happened to the guy who doesn't
need his hands to play basketball.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I mean, so that's what I'm saying, good things play.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Will you play, though? Will he actually be clear to play?
I don't know. Can he catch a lob? Can he
get rebounds? I mean, we need that stuff from him, right,
We need him to be somewhat healthy. We can't have
someone banging into him and all of a sudden he's out.
These are the things I worry about, you know, I
worry about about all Please God bless you know o
Gannanobi's hamstrings and groins and all those things. Every time

(26:49):
he goes up for a layup, I'm praying to the
man upstairs to please bless him with the best health
in the world. It's just it means so much. I
try to tell my kids how much is means. My wife,
she's been with me since nineteen ninety nine. She was
sitting right next to me when they lost. And I know,
you guys get it. And that's why I'm so happy
to be talking to you, because it feels like a
therapy session here. People roll their eyes and make comments,

(27:12):
but like, this means so freaking much. And yeah, I
just I just think of the happiness that these fifteen
men twelve who are playing vast majority nine can bring
us in the next you know, how about how about
the fat guys? How about the fact that it was
exactly a year ago today that they fired TIBs. Exactly

(27:32):
a year ago today they fire TIBs and we become
the laughing stock again. Jason Kidd won't come, Billy Donovan
won't come. No one wants to come. The Nicks did
it again. They screwed it up again, and now look
at us. Can you hear in New York City? Can
you hear it? Do you hear the cops? Hopefully so?
For me?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
You are a perfect representation of what everyone, all Nick
fans are going through right now. We're all over the
place where emotional you're praying Amen by the way to everything,
and you said you're praying.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I want to have you on.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I want emotional avery Helwana on after every game. If possible,
we work that out, if you have time for us.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, I mean, it's our it's our therapy session, and
I'd be happy to. I withhold the right if they
are losing crushing loss after crushing loss, I've propold to
right to upstain from talking. So I'm going to take
something stupid, but I believe can we get what? What
do you in your heart of hearts? What are you saying?
What are you saying? What's the official prediction Listen?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I had the Knicks in four last series, I said,
sweet before the series started, I have the Knicks in five.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
I'm I'm uber confident about this next team. I have
the Nicks in five.

Speaker 11 (28:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yes, yeah, I'm going on six.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
No.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
And here's the thing. He probably hates us hearing that,
because he doesn't want us to be so cocky and confident, right, yes.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
No, no, no, I want it. I want it. I
want it. I saw that stupid dog yesterday picking against them,
and I was like, I hate this freaking dog. Like
every pig that I see in our favor. It's like,
just a little bit more confident. Five would be a dream.
Six would be amazing at home. Steal one here, steal
one here on the road, and I'll feel a million

(29:08):
times better. Just steal one of these here. And how
about the symbolism, guys, how about the symbolism of the
stars of that ninety nineteen. They're going to be sitting
there at MSG LJ. Spree S Houston Ewings. They're going
to be sitting there watching our guys hopefully right the
wrong of twenty seven years ago. And let's be honest,
we had no chance in nineteen ninety nine. It was

(29:28):
great just getting there. Ewing'sinjer at Chris Douveley's our starting center.
We had no shot. Duncan with generational just starting his run, Robinson,
it was destiny for him. This feels much different. This
feels much more like ninety four where it's a toss
up and I just pray to God that God, I
pray to God that the basketball basketball gods will smile
down upon us.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Amen the Ariel Hawa Show. Check it out live on
on ground and YouTube at one pm Eastern. He'll be
there today. He'll be there, but he'll be thinking about
the next Ariel. We appreciate it, buddy, thank you. Calm down,
we laugh. We're gonna get it done. I promise you.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Thank you guys, so Nick, talk to you later.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
We appreciate it.

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How'd you feel about how crazy Ario was stuve?

Speaker 8 (30:39):
I am so glad I sat that one out.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
Not only it was just look, I understand, Hey, these
fans got to get this out of their system, right,
like we said, like we learned in the song from Taylor.

Speaker 8 (30:51):
It's been since seventy three. Yeah, but most of us
we've already been through this. Have your moment. I'm good.
I do not appreciate him saying that's stupid dog about Corky.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Corky is the course about that dog. I'm glad you.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
Didn't say it publicly, but I love dogs and I
will not share. I will not talk down about that dog.
That dog picks spurs and seven. Therefore I'm picking spurs
and seven.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
All right.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
We have Michelle Beadle, a big Spurs fan, coming up
an hour number two. Lucy Rodein is going to join
us as well. We'll talk some college football with her.
Welcome back, Lucy, But first we need to get to
a game of hand up. It's been a while since
we played a game of hand up around here, and
so I was saying, oh, esays he had it ready.

(31:39):
I don't get to sound surprised.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
How about that.

Speaker 8 (31:43):
Wow with the drop too amazing, perfectly timed.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
He is on his game, he really is. All right,
who's going first here? Taylor? You want to take it
away here?

Speaker 7 (31:54):
I can go all right, hand up. I'm falling for
the banana and the tailpipe.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'm buying this.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
You soccer team?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Oh no, I knew this was Kevin. What's the matter
with you?

Speaker 7 (32:03):
I mean, seriously, so polistic looked like the star that
USA needs them to be. They They're gonna have plenty
of defensive mistakes, but USA and their match against Senegal
showed that they could trade punches with one of the
world's you know, most athletic teams. I Texa Chris Whittingham
Champions League commentator. He said, if they look good against
Germany on Saturday, then I think you could get excited.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Oh wow, okay, but you're excited before that.

Speaker 8 (32:28):
So excited for what?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
What do you expect?

Speaker 8 (32:30):
What's a good result for the US soccer team for
Taylor Vivolis?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Got it?

Speaker 7 (32:34):
You gotta win the group.

Speaker 8 (32:35):
I think win the group, not just get out, okay, right,
and then you have to.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
Get past the round of sixteen okay. And then once
your past round of sixteen, you guys know, all bets
are off.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yes, anyone can win it from there, You're right, I mean, yeah,
who was in their group just out of curiosity?

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I don't know, got a fly in there?

Speaker 7 (32:56):
But you like them gotta win it.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
You're starting to get behind them.

Speaker 8 (32:59):
Okay, I can go here if you want, Please do
hand up. I don't think you guys really know how
much I hate being out there for softball.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
I don't feel it. I do.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
I feel like I do. Actually hang me up.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
I do, okay, because I mean I did you know
back when Taylor asked to play, if I was like,
you know, of course I'm going to participate. Of course
I'm going to try to get as many people to
participate so that Taylor gonna have a softball team to play.
And if you know, if I'm lucky, I get to
sit out, yes, And it just so happened that I
hadn't been able to sit out too many of the games.

Speaker 8 (33:33):
And it's just like, imagine you Stu.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Just being told, hey, go play a game of cricket,
all right, because you've never played it in your life,
and everybody out there, half the people out there are
going to be looking at you and say, hey, this
guy sucks like it's just nat exactly. I just hate
every second of it. And I just wanted to be going.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
We didn't need a hand up for it. We all
knew it.

Speaker 8 (33:56):
And yeah, no, I don't think you really know the
depths of how much I hated it.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Dan Bayer barely knows you, Dan, did you know it
before he put his hand up and said it, Yeah, absolutely, yes.

Speaker 8 (34:06):
Okay, so I'll keep my hand down then and let
the game continue.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
All right, let's go to Dan Bayer. He has his
hand up, hand up.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
I wait all year for summer, and then when summer comes,
they go, man, I can't wait for fall.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
It's hot out there, man, yes, it is like two
days in. I'm like, all right, let's turn the leaves,
let's turn them orange, let's turn them yellow red. Yeah,
all right, let's go to Mikey egg, mikeyeg go ahead?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Is he kind of threw me off because that really
wasn't a hand up?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
No, it was hand He's confirming something we already knew.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I mean, I know, hand up.

Speaker 9 (34:40):
I am lying and selling through my teeth to get
unload these World Cup tickets.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
What's that guy? Someone?

Speaker 9 (34:47):
I've got someone on the hook and I'm I'm reeling
them in so slowly.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yes, but I am lying through my.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Teeth about how good these tickets are.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, So it has to be a slow reel because
you want to give the impression that you do.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Know my going to the gate.

Speaker 9 (35:00):
You know, I don't mind going, Listen, I want to go,
I just am not sure that I might be able to.
And I know you care a lot about one of
the teams that's playing, so.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
I would rather give them to you.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
For this amount of Mikey, how mad are you that
you don't have USA tickets? Because Taylor would be your
Ryan Fish and Sinker.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
If I had USA tickets, I'd be.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
Going, Okay, you wouldn't even try to sell them to
Taylor because I think you can get bookoop.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
He's big.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
I know Taylor doesn't have the money to pay what
I'm going to charge for.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I ain't paying for board, Opricardo. He's got his hand up,
Go ahead, hand up. I haven't been paying attention to
this show. Today we got Afternoon Baseball. Yeah, again confirming
what we already knew. That's not the name of the gate.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I mean, let's go to uh, let's go to Iowa
Sam out in Sherman Oaks.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
He has his hand up.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I'm told, go ahead, Iowa Sam hand up.

Speaker 11 (35:55):
As a former Corky owner, I cannot stand for Corky criticism.
They are smart, funny dogs. They are fox bear pigs
combined into a dog. It's not just dog's faulted. It
got picked whoever it picked the spurs, so lay off
the corgies. They're amazing.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
What was your corgi's name?

Speaker 11 (36:11):
We had one named Maki Sushi roll, and another way
another one named Roquel Welsh, a little play on name
for each little wordy like Roquel Welsh.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
The first one, I was saying, the first one, what
was the name of the verse? Maki sushi roll? Because
you shaped like a sushi roll, like a mocki roll.
If you say that to a dog in public, people
are going to think you're just really hungry. We just
called him Maki, or sometimes we called him Tubby Winslow. Okay, uh,
you're a strange guy.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
I was saying, no, no, I used to have a
dog named Hunk, and I would call him the boat
John a bunch of names.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Let's go to EP. I love you, I was saying,
e P. Jason's got his hand up.

Speaker 7 (36:48):
Go ahead, hand up, guys, we've got twenty seconds left
in the segment. Wow, good here, guys, hand up. I'm
rooting for the next side.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Oh yeah, yuh, hand up. I hate long dog names.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
Yeah that's a good one. Actually, roll give me your
mucky ass.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Roll Sylvie's hand up stunk I hate so.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Much.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
We know, hand up, hard out
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