September 10, 2026 • 37 mins
Stugotz and company welcome friend of the show Sal Licata to the show to talk about the Seahawks win over the Patriots in Wednesday night's opener. Stu and the guys partake in a round of "Think About It Thursday". Stu and the fellas discuss the Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Now let's get this party started.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Did Seattle win that
game or did the Patriots lose it? 877-99 on Fox.
I am looking right now on our Zoom here for
the radio audience at a very frustrated Sal Licata, who's
our co-host for today and tomorrow, for that matter. But
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he is very frustrated. I am hesitant to go to
Sal because I know why he's frustrated, but we have
to test this out. So, Sal, explain to the audience
and to me what is going on where you are
in New York right now. Why are you so angry?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, okay. First of all, I apologize if this is bad.
It drives me nuts.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Stu, we've talked about this before with radio.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You're like, ah, it doesn't matter. Nobody cares how clean
it sounds or not.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
So I come in two hours early to get to
SMY because I have my TV show, so I can't
miss that.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We talked about this just yesterday. I was like, yeah,
I'd love the opportunity to do the show. I love
doing the show with you guys. I miss it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Let's do it. I bring in a Comrex.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I get SMY to set me up in a studio.
I get the hardline internet. And it's just, oh, no,
we're hearing like it's cutting out. Then I connect to
the laptop. That speed says it's good. It doesn't sound good.
It's driving me up.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
A brick wall. Let's go to Iowa Sam in Sherman Oaks.
How bad does it sound, Iowa Sam? Can we use
them or no?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You know, it's a little tricky here because you'll get
like seven or eight good seconds out of Sal, and
then you'll hear like a little blip. One of his
words will drop out.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I think it needs a little remedying.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But we're almost there.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
We're almost there. Sal, we're almost there.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
What the remedy?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
These damn computers and internet.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I can't stand it. Good God.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
The Zoom, the laptops, the internet.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The focus, right?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
The mics.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Right. Yes. Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Whatever happened to the days you just show up, someone
turns it on for you, and you just speak into
the mic, and you're done two hours later. You know?
I know.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's why I was praying. I was like, you know what?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I'll deal with the stress of being late for my
TV show even. Set me up at the iHeart Studios
in Midtown, and I'll do it. They don't have anything there.
It's like the Drew Locke of setups here.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean, this is absurd. Midtown is what he was saying.
Town was the word you didn't hear, but you did
hear the mid. What did you make of the game
last night, Tom? I'm going to play some sound for you.
I think you sound good enough. We'll see if we
can improve on it as we move on here. What'd
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you make of the game? I'm going to play sound
for you from a Patriots postgame show on the radio.
But first, before we get to that, what were your
thoughts last night on that game? Drake May, to me,
very concerning. You cannot even attempt that pass to Mack
Hollins when you're in field goal range and you have
a chance to tie the game and take it to overtime.
I know.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I know.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
But I'm going to try to talk slowly here.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So maybe, maybe like the cutouts during the pauses. Okay. I,
I am not ready to say Drake may stinks or
the Patriots aren't any good.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I like being aggressive. I think that that was a
horrible decision. Clearly not going for a touchdown. There is right.
The throw that made in that particular play wasn't any good,
but like now we're going to overreact to one game,
which is essentially a preseason game because they don't play preseason.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Slow down, I know.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
But then they go out there, they play. I mean,
I thought they played a game the majority of the game.
They got beat by the Super Bowl champs again.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Drake, maybe.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
How about Dubs with that drop? That was a killer play.
We'll be talking about Drake if Dubs caught the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yes, I am so upset because he is fired up.
He is ready to do sports radio. His connection is lousy.
Dan Beyer, you're a radio guy. How bad is the connection?
Just like, would you be using Sal right now on
the air?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
It's like Romeo Dobbs catching a football. That's what it is.
There's just a lot of drops. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Can you set up an IR studios? Come on, Scotty.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Good God, I'm willing to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Sal should wear a guardian cap.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Zoom here. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Somebody give me a Comrex for good sake. I need
internet and a Comrex.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm ready to go. I hate missing this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I know you do. I don't know what to do
with him, Taylor. What do you think? You're the EP
around here, and I am not certain. I am not
getting good vibes here from Sherman Oaks. That's what I
can tell you. He just compared him to Romeo Dobbs,
and it was a fair comparison that Dan Myers just made.
You were sitting on that one. You were hoping I
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was going to ask you, Dan, right?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
I was calling the connection Romeo Dobbs. I was not
calling Sal Romeo Dobbs.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It was a good joke nonetheless. And Taylor has given
me nothing in terms of what we're supposed to do here.
So let's play the sound from the postgame show because
this will make you smile, Sal, because this is sports
radio at its core. Drake May is a quarterback that
took the Patriots to the Super Bowl a year ago.
They lost to the Seattle Seahawks. This is a good team.
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Drake May is a good quarterback, although you have precious
little evidence based on what he did last night, especially
in that fourth quarter. But It's what have you done
for me lately in sports radio world? Taylor's going to
set this up for us. This is postgame from the
Patriots Seattle game last night.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, this is Mark Dondero, host of the Patriots postgame
on 98.5 The Sports Hub.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
They tried to hide him all night long with high
school plays, with the Zavarian playbook, high school, swing pass.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Little runs roll out.
Speaker 8 (05:58):
To nowhere high school football the second he had to
make NFL.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Plays or throws he was screwed he couldn't do he.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Made one NFL throw all night that was to Hollins
on one of the third downs that was a little
bit deep on an in cut nice timing He made
high school plays all night long. That's what happened. And
he could not step up. And that throw to end
the game was disgusting. That was incomprehensible and disgusting. To
even put the ball with that much air under it
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in that situation.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It was befuddling.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That was a joke.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
You cannot do that. He blew this game and he
was bad all night. I thought the only thing he
produced all night was high school level place, high school,
science class, chemistry.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It was awful. That's how you do it, Sal. I mean,
that's how you treat your quarterback who just got you
to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, I think it's ridiculous. The Drake May slander after
one game is absurd.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I'm afraid to talk. I don't know if you guys
can hear me or not.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Do you feel like everyone's staring at you? Like, is
that is that? Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Is it any better to be air? I said, like,
I don't want to ruin the show.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I like obviously I appreciate you even asking.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, I don't want to ruin the show.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Of course. Take me out.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
OK.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And we say give it a go.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So I apologize.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean, come on.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You're going to rip. Still, this is exactly what we
talked about, about sports.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Like now it's, Oh, how could you make that throw? Hey,
all the Patriots, they staying, blah, blah, blah. It's one
game getting warmed up here. I'll still take Drake may
on my team.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Any day of the week.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
No, for sure. But I do think, As sports media,
we might have crowned Drake May a little bit too
early because the confidence is part of what makes him
really special. But also you see in a game like that,
the confidence is also the thing that gets him beat
where the second Sam Darnold goes out. Drake May's focus
should have been, let's be a game manager. Let's get
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this game across the finish line. Let's go into this
road environment in Seattle against that defense and come out
of the game 1-0. And Drake May, he is not
capable of just taking what defenses give him. He mentioned
it after the game that it was unacceptable that he
kind of lost his patience there, where... If you just
have Drake May go out there and just try to
be a boring quarterback, not need to go out there
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and be a Superman-level quarterback, the Patriots win that game
pretty easily.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The Patriots should have won that game pretty easily. Drake
May was dreadful, especially in the third quarter. He needs
to be better. It's his second season. He's not a
rookie anymore. I realize he just took him to the
Super Bowl. I realize he had a good season. He
exceeded expectations. You cannot have three interceptions opening game of
the season in your second year as a starter in
the fourth quarter. You just can't do that if you're
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Drake May.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And going back, these problems for Drake May go back
to his UNC days. He always plays like he believes
every play is there for him to make. He trusts
his arm. He trusts his leg. He believes he can
get out of any situation. That's why when you see
him on a third down where you have overtime already secured,
throw off his back foot. That's a throw no quarterback
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in the NFL has ever been taught to make in
that situation.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
What is so great is Sal wants to respond to
all of this. He just has no confidence in his connection.
And so he doesn't know what to do. He has
no idea. Should I speak? Should I not speak? I
have no idea what to do here. But there is
one happy man on this show today, and that is
Dan Byer. I'm happy because Boston is miserable, and I
can't stand Boston. Dan Byer is happy because the Seahawks
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raised a banner last night. How about that?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Yes, that was quite the night. And while it was
like a root canal for the first three quarters, the
fourth quarter finally provided something, kind of like the Super
Bowl played out. But I would argue that it isn't
just one game for Drake May. If you're a Patriots fan,
think of the last three games that you've played, two
against Seattle and one against Denver. Arguably, the best defense
is that you're going to have in the National Football League.
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But when you're accustomed to 20 years of Tom Brady
picking apart any single defense that was thrown at him,
if Drake May has stinker after stinker after stinker, it
starts to add up a little bit and even the
game they beat the Texans and we talk about CJ
Stroud and the four interceptions it wasn't like May was
throwing for 350 yards and running all over the field
again against another good defense but I think this is
(10:13):
probably why the Patriots fan base is a little you
know head over heels not in a good way because.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Of this Dan, it's a fair point. Last five games
for Drake May, seven touchdowns, 11 turnovers, 24 sacks taken.
The problem is one of those games was the Super Bowl. Anyway, Taylor,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Drake May is going to torch bad defenses. No, no
Patriot fan today is worried about that, but that's not
what this season is about for Drake May. If we're
going to talk about him, like he's one of the
best quarterbacks in the NFL, he has to show that
he could beat good teams when plan a isn't working. When,
when a defense like Mike McDonald gets after him, show
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that you can stay disciplined, show that you understand when
the game is, asking you to not be a star,
just get the game across the finish line. And yesterday
was his first real test of that since the Super Bowl.
And I don't think there's anybody who could sit here
today and say that he didn't fail with flying colors.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Sam Darnold went down. I started thinking to myself, if
he's out for a prolonged period of time, who are
the Seahawks going to get as their quarterback? Because there's
no way they're going to go at it with Drew
Locke for 17 games. And my mind went to Russell Wilson.
I hate to admit this. Pass, pass, pass.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The second Sam Darnold went down, my first thought was
to open a sportsbook and just see what the price was.
And I saw the Patriots were minus 350 and Drew
Locke's warming up. And I'm like, how the heck are
the Seahawks going to win this game with Drew Locke? Thankfully,
I did not get that bet in.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Imagine there's a crack addict and there is crack so
close to him, but he just can't find the lighter.
That is what's going on with Sal right now. He
wants to chime in so badly. He's addicted to a microphone,
yet his microphone has a terrible connection and he can't talk.
It's a sports radio addict. who can't talk sports radio.
I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Want to go home and cry.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Did you get that?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I want to go home and cry.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, he said he wants to go home and cry.
If you miss the home on the radio, we didn't
get that.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Sounds kind of like Sam. Donald was here for the
first couple of plays and then gone the rest of
the way. Maybe that's the more apropos comparison.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's a very good one. The show's a mess. It's
just the way I like it. 877-99 on Fox. Sal
is so upset. 877-99 on Fox. We'll take a quick timeout.
Come back. Take some of your phone calls if we
have any. And if we don't, I don't blame you.
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Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yes, congratulations. No one's paying attention. Football season has started.
We have let an angry Sal Licata go. His microphone
just wasn't working. He is so upset. He's going to
take it all home with him. He's going to be
angry for 24 hours, and hopefully we'll get him reconnected
and we'll do the show tomorrow. But man, is Sal upset. Yes,
he is so mad. Dan, an emotional night for you
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last night. You're Seahawks, you know, raising a banner. Big
win over the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
I'll tell you how last night ended up feeling because
I felt that New England had a lot of momentum.
It was nice to see Taylor's boy, Mac Hollins, for
Taylor's benefit, still get the run that he deserves when
everybody's being out. But it felt like a game of
cutthroat kitchen. Did you ever watch that show on Food
Network where they have to throw different obstacles? Maybe they'll
take away like your blender, but it was like, guess what? Seahawks.
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Now you're not going to play with Sam Darnold Patriots.
Now you're not going to have AJ Brown. You already
don't have Travion Henderson. It felt like a bit of
a watered down game when all of the pieces ended
up settling at the end, exciting and crazy, but it
was just weird on how inefficient it ended up being
offensively because of all of the offensive players that were out.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yep. AJ Brown, high ankle sprain. He'll be out. It
looks like maybe a couple of weeks here. Those are tricky.
Did you laugh? Because I did.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
A.J.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Brown, wide open, first half. But Drake May didn't have
a big enough arm to get him the ball. He
left Jalen Hurts to go to a quarterback who can
get him that ball, and Drake May underthrew him. They
got a pass interference penalty, but I was laughing because
Drake May felt so badly that he could not connect
with a wide open A.J. Brown who came to the
Patriots so a quarterback could connect with him on a
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deep ball. How about that?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
And it was their best play of the game, arguably. Like,
it truly was.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Ha ha!
Speaker 6 (15:09):
And then they score a touchdown, and no one's heard
of the guy. So everybody who's been waiting seven, eight
months for fantasy football are waiting for A.J.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
They're like, hey, I'm playing Ramondre Stevenson. There's no Travion Henderson.
And they throw it to someone that no one has
heard of.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yes, I was feeling really good when Darnold went out.
I was feeling great about my Seahawks not making the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
You even retweeted the tweet.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Do you think 10 years from now, if a Seattle
starting quarterback goes down, that Drew Locke is still going
to be coming in?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
The Drew Locke slander was so much that NFL insiders
were saying Jalen Milrow can't play unless Drew Locke gets hurt. Like,
I don't know who people were thinking, but people were
obviously thinking in their mind, boy, Drew Locke isn't going
to work out. Who could the Seahawks turn to instead?
That was the Drew Locke slander before he pulled off
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another Houdini act. He did this a couple of years ago,
filling in for Gino Smith against the Eagles on Monday
Night Football. I don't know why people are questioning the
greatness that is Drew Locke.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I don't think they questioned him in spurts in a
moment like that, like last night. They questioned him if
he has to start 16 more games, you know?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Fair enough. I thought Mike Tomlin made a really good
point in the postgame. He said, Drew Locke got most
of the reps in the preseason games. So if this
was an opportunity, he said this would have been maybe
different in week 10 or 11 where he'd been removed
from game action and wasn't getting a lot of reps
in practice. But his point was that Locke was probably
in step because of all of the preseason action. that
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he had. He played a majority of the two games,
didn't end up playing the last game for them, but yeah,
he had a lot of work in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So I know Drew Locke wasn't part of the Seahawks'
original game plan, but if you looked at the Patriots'
game plan before the game and you told somebody from
the Patriots that Mack Hollins would have more receiving yards
than A.J. Brown, Pop Douglas... and Romeo Dobbs combined, they
wouldn't like their chance to win that game, right?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
No. You would say, yeah, we're losing.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And yet, it came down to a Drake May interception
where the Patriots could have driven for the score to
win the game or at the very least kick a
very manageable field goal to have a chance to win
in overtime.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
That's what I thought was so interesting because Mike Vrabel
said afterwards, he's like, we want to be aggressive, I think,
and not reckless or whatever the phrase was. But if
you're new England on that time, do you want to
play for overtime? And I think most of us are like, yeah,
because they have drew lock on the other side. And again,
it's no disrespect for him, but you would think normally
on the road, let's go for the win. Let's close
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this out. You know, if there would be a chance
you needed to go for two, we're going to go
for two, the whole deal, but they were in field
goal range. And I felt at that point that that's
what made the interception. The third interception so bad was
that new England could play for overtime and still be
in a pretty good spot to win the game. And,
But it was thrown away by the underthrow.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Listen, I understand going for the victory. They had time.
They had timeouts. So I understand going for the victory.
Your safety net there is three points. It's the field goal.
So what you can't do is exactly what Drake May did,
which is force a pass he never should have made.
Patrick McEnroe and Brock, you are going to join us
in hour number two. It is a Think About It
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Thursday here. Give me the imaging and let's do it.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You know that segment, Talk About It Tuesday on Hockman, Crowder,
and Solero?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
This is like that, but bigger and better.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And 48 hours.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Later, this is Think About It Thursday. Think About It Thursday.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
This is Taylor's attempt to counter-program a local radio show
down here in Miami. Hockman, Solero, and Crowder. What do
you have for us today, Taylor?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So tonight's game, Niners versus Rams in Australia. Two different
styles of preparing. San Francisco arrived more than a week
early to acclimate. The Rams trained in California and arrived
in Melbourne only about a day before kickoff, trying to
keep their players closer to Pacific time. Which Australia strategy
would you guys rather have? Arrive a week early like
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San Francisco or basically get off the plane and play
like Los Angeles?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Wow, that's a good question. 877-99 on Fox. 877-99 on Fox.
So I've been to Australia, and I can tell you,
having been there for two weeks, after a week, I
still wasn't properly adjusted. There is no adjusting to that.
Raheem Morris missed his birthday on the flight to Australia.
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It's a long trip. I would rather just get off
the bird, play football, get back on the bird and
go home. That's just me. I think that's the right strategy. Dan,
what do you think?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Give me a week. I'd love to see the sights
and sounds, get the body clock adjusted. I'm on the
49ers plan, opposite of you, Stu Gatz. I've never been
to Australia. It's a long flight I've seen.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
As someone who's been to Australia, what I'm telling you
is a week is not enough. You're not adjusted after
a week. You might think you're adjusted, but you're not adjusted.
I think too many bad things can happen when you
go a week in advance, you know? And you're not
there to see the sights, Dan. You're there to win
a football game. I mean, what do you think? Vacation?
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Promote the game. Isn't that what Kevin Demoff or whatever
was fighting one of the fans or one of the
49er reporters about the Rams did not do their part
to spread the game, spread the love of the game
while the 49ers have been doing all of the goodwill
in Australia this past week?
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah. Taylor, what do you think? Because I didn't have
to think about that for long. I'm just like, yeah,
let's let's hop off the bird, play football and go home.
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, I think that sounds good. But if tonight we
turn on this game and Matthew Stafford gets off to
a sluggish start and the Rams look look pretty bad
early on. How quickly are we going to blame Sean
McVay for this travel strategy?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
They sent people to Australia. multiple times to test out.
That's the Rams excuse that they have. This is not
just something they came up with, that they have been
sending people over the last year back and forth to
see what their biometrics or whatever say.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Right. And it came back is just hop off the
bird and play football.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
The result said Stugatz theory. That's what it said. Stugatz
theory is the best theory.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
So, Dan, I saw that report that they sent staffers.
No offense to the Rams, because I'm sure the Rams
know more about how to do this than me. Well,
what is sending your analytics guy supposed to do to
help prepare, play a football game?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
It's all about body adjustment. That's it. Like, how long
did it take you to adjust to the time in Australia, right?
It doesn't matter who you are.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Todd feels fine. Todd's great.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Look at Todd right now. He looks great.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Look at Todd punching numbers into his calculator in our
apartment whatsoever. Our accounting department is a lot different than
how miles Garrett's body adjusts coming off the edge against
Trent Williams.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
But what about if Neil was okay as well, you know,
or Donna, like any of those, like if they're all
still at the top of their level, I think the
numbers will show that the Rams are making the right decision.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It seems excessive to send stampers out there just to
see how their body is reacting to being in Australia.
Stampers who aren't playing football.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Would you volunteer? That's the question. Like they tell you,
you got to go on a flight and you got
to immediately come back after a day. Is that a
perk or not?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
How am I flying? I mean, that's.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
I would think you would have to fly first class
because the Rams are flying first class.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Right.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You want to recreate it. Exactly.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yes. A charter jet for time.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
What a ridiculous premise.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Melissa.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Melissa got on this 16 hour flight and was able
to do her social media job. That's the same thing
as Matthew Stafford having to play a football game.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
The Rams said that they slept. And again, it's like
16 or 17 hours. But there's still like five or
six hours after you sleep. That you would probably wake up.
I think I probably would volunteer at least once to see.
But I don't know if you have to make like
a three trip commitment, because I think that's really how
you would also get the data as well.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yes. And Taylor, to answer your question, if the Rams
lose the game. Yes, of course. We'll blame McVay for
taking him too late. And if the 49ers lose the game.
We will blame Shanahan for taking them too early.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Also, I know this was going to be too quick
of a turnaround for Aaron Donald to play in this game.
You can't make the trip with the team. They're paying
you all this money. You can't go out there and
get your pom-poms and support your teammates.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I would say if you're Aaron Donald, you can have
it any way you want to have it. And if
he said, hey, I'll sign this contract, I ain't going
to Australia. The Rams are OK with that, you know,
and why shouldn't they be? Aaron Donald is back playing football.
And if they only get it for 16 games, who cares?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He's like Roger Clemens when he came back and Roger
Clemens was like, I'm not going on any road trips.
And the Yankees were like, well, we need this guy
to pitch. So I guess he's not going on any
road trips that he doesn't have to pitch in.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Oh, my gosh. Aaron Donald is in Georgia's box. That's
my Susan Waldman. That was a good one.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I've never done it before. It wasn't that good.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
I know it was awful, but that's okay. Great job.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I'll take it.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Thank you. Great job. I appreciate that.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'd like to recreate that if we could. Can we
get Susan Walman actually saying that Derek cheater?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Sam's too busy playing drops of me right now.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
That's great. I wanted to do a side by side
comparison of the real one and the fake one because
the fake one was dreadful. It was a good attempt though.
Let's take a call here.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
877-99.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Oh, the caller dropped. 877-99 on Fox. That is 877-99
on Fox. How do you feel about a game on
a neutral field? I can't stand these games. I really can't.
Rams 49ers is a game I should be excited for,
and yet it's hard to get excited for it, A,
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after last night's game, and B, when it's being played
across the country in Australia. I mean, what kind of
ridiculousness is this? There's going to be no atmosphere. There's
going to be nothing there. It's going to be a
bunch of people just happy to be in an NFL game.
I don't like it. I mean, can we start playing
enough with college football starting the season in Dublin, Ireland,
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and enough with the NFL starting the season, although it
started last night in Seattle, but enough with them having
one of their first two games in Melbourne, Australia. Nobody cares.
And nobody, and I mean nobody, not a single player,
not a single staffer, not a single coach on either
of those teams wants to be in Australia right now.
They don't.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So just a quick correction. You said across the country
in Australia. It would be across the globe.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
That's what I meant.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Other side of the world. You know, listen, we lost
the caller. We lost Sal. I'm very upset. Mikey is
not here. I have no idea what's going on. And
Dan Beyer has been forced into a co-hosting role that,
quite frankly, he wasn't expecting when he stepped in today.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
I love it. I even love my Waldman.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Let's hear the– Do we have Susan Waldman? Yes, you're
going to have to do it again, though, okay? So
you're going to have to– All right, you got it.
All right, so let's hear the real one first. This
is the real– this is what Dan was just attempting
to do. This is the real Susan Waldman making a
call here. Roger Clemens is in Georgia's box, and Roger
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Clemens is coming back. Oh, my goodness gracious. All right, Dan.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Aaron Donald is in George's box. Goodness gracious.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Thank you very much. Why are you giving him applause?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I look over before Dan starts and he's like stretching
his face out.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
He's getting ready for the Northeast accent, you know?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You have to.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Great job.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
That Yankee season, Stu, I got tickets before the season
started to two games. One of them was to that
game against the Mariners where Roger Clemens announced his comeback
from George Steinbrenner's box. And the second game that I
randomly had tickets to was against the Pirates where Roger
Clemens made his debut back at Yankee Stadium. And when
I went to Tahoe, I told Roger Clemens that story.
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He could, Stu, when I tell you, he couldn't have
cared less.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I told him that story, and he looked right through
me because his wife had just asked me to take
a picture of him and his wife together with Lake
Tahoe in the background. I was like, hey, Roger, big
Yankee fan. Back in 2007, this is what happened. And
he just looked at me and goes, just take the picture.
I've taken that picture. I know exactly the hotel you're
speaking of. I've been in that restaurant. They eat breakfast
there every single morning. I have taken that picture of
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Roger and his wife. with the lake in the background.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I have. I've taken that same exact picture, and he
wasn't listening to me either. And I was trying to
small talk him. Did it ever dawn on you when
you're talking to Roger Clemens to ask him to come
on the show? Or did you just say, hey, Yanks,
go Yanks, rock it?
Speaker 9 (28:11):
No, he.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Stu, when I tell you he looked right through me
when I said that, like the 12-year-old in me was
very excited about to tell Roger Clemens how big of
a Yankee fan I was. And he couldn't even give him–
if I asked Roger Clemens the time of day at
that moment, he would have spit on me.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's an amazing quality he has where he could be
in Lake Tahoe for five days and nobody sees him.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
It's also a heck of a lot easier to not
say anything than to say, just take the picture. Like
that is another level as well.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
He might as well have snarled that.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
He gave you high heat.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
He was actively dismissing you. He could have passively done
it and just ignored it and fake that he didn't
hear it. But that is a next level jerk.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I think he misremembers. No, definitely not. After I handed
him the phone back, in my head I said, I'm
glad he's not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Really?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
You started insulting him. Just to yourself. Just to myself.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I said I think the Hall of Fame made a
good decision.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Internally, yes. Is Drew Locke on the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks?
Put it on the poll, Taylor. I think he is. Mr. Reliable, right?
Drew Locke. I think he is on the Mount Rushmore
of backup quarterbacks. Backup quarterback has become such an important
position in the NFL because the quarterback position is the
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most important position in sports. They get hit a lot.
They go down occasionally and they get hurt occasionally. And
I'm telling if you remember, Dan, Patrick Mahomes went down
for a drive or two. And I think it was
Damon Eward and Brock Eward's going to come on an
hour number two. But I think it was Damon Eward
who led them on a 98-yard drive. It was not.
It was somebody else.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
It was Chad Henney.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Chad Henney is on the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks. That's
who I was thinking of, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So Mount Rushmore has four spots.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Nick Foles has to be on there.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well, Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. Jeff Hostetler probably
has to be on there.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Hostetler's the second spot. And if you have Chad Henney,
now you're looking for a fourth spot.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think it's Drew Locke.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
I feel like Gardner Minshew is our generation's backup. Like
right now, like the key is the backup quarterback. Like
Jacoby Brissett is good enough to now start for Arizona
where Minshew's, you know, backing up. I feel like Minshew
is our guy right now. But if Locke could have
this just for a couple more weeks, he could be
the guy. I mean, there is Minshew mania and all.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Drew Locke has to be careful because, you know, you
get exposed when you start multiple games in the NFL.
Just take your quick stints, get in, get out. It's
kind of like the L.A.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Rams.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Hop off the bird, play football, hop back on the
bird and go home. Drew Locke doesn't want to start
16 games.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
No, you don't want to hire him full time. Just
give him a part time job on the weekends.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
That's right. What is Ricardo muttering back there? I keep
hearing Ricardo in the background. He is upset that we
have left someone off the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, he keeps saying Earl Morrell.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh, he's right.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Morrell. Yes.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I don't know the 1972 Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
The only undefeated team in the history of the NFL.
Bob Greasy went down. Earl Morrell came in. Preach. And
took him all the way to the Super Bowl. I
think Greasy came back for that Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
But I don't think Earl Morrill should be on the
Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks. I'm not even certain Hostetler should.
I'm just thinking of guys who come in. They go out.
They do their job. They keep you afloat. They get
you a W. Davis Mills is the perfect example. That
is the guy. He's a great backup.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I think part of it, too, is you have to
have a good backup quarterback name, like Bubby Brister.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That's a great backup quarterback name.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Chris Sims has told us that backup quarterback is the
best position, best job in sports. You get paid seven figures,
you hold a clipboard, and nobody hits you.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
I mean, it's... It's hard to argue.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
877-99 on Fox. We have a ton of calls here. Again,
Patrick McEnroe, I finally get to talk some tennis. He's
going to join us in hour number two. Brock Ewart.
is going to join us in hour number two as well.
Does a local show, the biggest show in Seattle. Looking
forward to speaking to him about what transpired last night
and the status of Sam Darnold. Let's go out to John,
who's in Iowa today. John, go ahead. You're on Fox
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Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
How are you guys doing this afternoon?
Speaker 7 (33:05):
Good.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
How are you, John? Good.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Good. say, you know, the whole, the, the, the Mount
Rushmore backup quarterbacks, you know, this guy didn't, didn't win
a championship, but I'm wondering if Frank Reich is worth
throwing into that conversation that he authored one of the biggest, well,
at the time it was the biggest comeback in NFL history.
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And actually I think it was only recently eclipsed by
my Minnesota Vikings, maybe two or three seasons ago when
they came back massively against, I think it was the
Indianapolis Colts. But that game that Frank Wright.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Came in, masterful. Yes, yes. Automatically puts them on the
Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks just for that game and that
game alone. I believe it was a wild card game.
They were down big to the Oilers going into the
second half. He came in, he brought him back. That
team went back to the Super Bowl and, of course, lost.
But Frank Wright is deserving, Dan, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Absolutely. And I also think that his quarterbacking career has
followed his coaching career better as an offensive coordinator than
as a head coach. You know what? Frank Reich is
your normal starter. He's good as the backup. Maybe you
don't want him as the head coach, but sure. Have
him run an offense and he'll put that to test
this year with the Jets. So if the Jets have
any success, the theory ends up handing out. All right.
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It is locked in concrete in ink.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Done.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
A movable object versus the unstoppable force.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Something has to give. Ricardo, we'll get back to the
calls in a second. He has not stopped during the
break with Earl Morrill. And perhaps we should reconsider this.
He did help the Dolphins to an undefeated season in
the Super Bowl. What else do you have for us, Ricardo,
as his biggest fan?
Speaker 9 (34:52):
Well, just looking him up on footballreference.com, in 1968, he
went 13-1 as the backup quarterback at Baltimore for Johnny Unitas.
And then he actually played in the Super Bowl that
Namath beat you guys.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
So he's lost one game, essentially, as a starter. Yeah. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
As a starter, he went 63 and 36 in his career.
And these are backup quarterback stats right here. 161 touchdowns
and 148 interceptions.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
No, but what I'm saying is he came in for
Johnny Unitas. They lost a single game. He came in
for Bob Greasy. They didn't lose any games. That's right.
So if you don't start him, that's the key. And
our moral might have to be in consideration. Mount Rushmore
backup quarterbacks. How about that?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
And Kurt Warner is someone who was a backup quarterback.
He was just disguised as one. He was a Hall
of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But he just ended up.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So, like, even though he started as a backup quarterback,
some of these guys do, but they're just not in
that backup realm. Like, it's a special sort of group.
You either have it or you don't.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah. Let's go to Kurt, who's in Nevada today. Kurt,
go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Hey, one of the greats who's also a field goal
kicker and had a single-bar face mask, George Blanda.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh, yes, Blanda. Back when football was football, right?
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
All right, thank you for the call, George Blanda. Listen,
you never know what's going to get the phones ringing,
and I had no idea that Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks,
and we should be playing the sound of Taylor saying
black up quarterback on Martin Luther King Day, but somehow
we haven't gotten to it yet. Black backup quarterback. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Black backup quarterback. Black backup quarterback. No disrespect to George Blanda.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, what about it?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Black backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
When you say that, you're about to disrespect someone, just
so you know. All right.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't respect anybody whose helmet looks like something they
bought from Toys R Us. Looks like such a cheap helmet.
That's what they were wearing back in the day?
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
A one-step evolution from the leather helmet, what George Blanda
was wearing.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I wouldn't even say back in the day. Joe Theismann
wore that helmet in the 80s. He did. Single board.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I'm looking at a picture of George Blanda playing quarterback.
I'm assuming he's like 29 in this photo. He looks
like he's 45. Oh, wow. He played until he was 48.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
He did. It was a different time.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That's a testament to how bad football was back then.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
How old was Brady? Brady technically a backup Brady, by
the way, to Drew Bledsoe.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Fair enough.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yes, only quarterback on both Mount Rushmore's. We'll continue taking
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Now let's get this party started.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Did Seattle win that
game or did the Patriots lose it? 877-99 on Fox.
I am looking right now on our Zoom here for
the radio audience at a very frustrated Sal Licata, who's
our co-host for today and tomorrow, for that matter. But
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he is very frustrated. I am hesitant to go to
Sal because I know why he's frustrated, but we have
to test this out. So, Sal, explain to the audience
and to me what is going on where you are
in New York right now. Why are you so angry?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, okay. First of all, I apologize if this is bad.
It drives me nuts.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Stu, we've talked about this before with radio.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You're like, ah, it doesn't matter. Nobody cares how clean
it sounds or not.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
So I come in two hours early to get to
SMY because I have my TV show, so I can't
miss that.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We talked about this just yesterday. I was like, yeah,
I'd love the opportunity to do the show. I love
doing the show with you guys. I miss it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Let's do it. I bring in a Comrex.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I get SMY to set me up in a studio.
I get the hardline internet. And it's just, oh, no,
we're hearing like it's cutting out. Then I connect to
the laptop. That speed says it's good. It doesn't sound good.
It's driving me up.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
A brick wall. Let's go to Iowa Sam in Sherman Oaks.
How bad does it sound, Iowa Sam? Can we use
them or no?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You know, it's a little tricky here because you'll get
like seven or eight good seconds out of Sal, and
then you'll hear like a little blip. One of his
words will drop out.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I think it needs a little remedying.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But we're almost there.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
We're almost there. Sal, we're almost there.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
What the remedy?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
These damn computers and internet.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I can't stand it. Good God.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
The Zoom, the laptops, the internet.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The focus, right?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
The mics.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Right. Yes. Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Whatever happened to the days you just show up, someone
turns it on for you, and you just speak into
the mic, and you're done two hours later. You know?
I know.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's why I was praying. I was like, you know what?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I'll deal with the stress of being late for my
TV show even. Set me up at the iHeart Studios
in Midtown, and I'll do it. They don't have anything there.
It's like the Drew Locke of setups here.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean, this is absurd. Midtown is what he was saying.
Town was the word you didn't hear, but you did
hear the mid. What did you make of the game
last night, Tom? I'm going to play some sound for you.
I think you sound good enough. We'll see if we
can improve on it as we move on here. What'd
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you make of the game? I'm going to play sound
for you from a Patriots postgame show on the radio.
But first, before we get to that, what were your
thoughts last night on that game? Drake May, to me,
very concerning. You cannot even attempt that pass to Mack
Hollins when you're in field goal range and you have
a chance to tie the game and take it to overtime.
I know.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I know.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
But I'm going to try to talk slowly here.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So maybe, maybe like the cutouts during the pauses. Okay. I,
I am not ready to say Drake may stinks or
the Patriots aren't any good.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I like being aggressive. I think that that was a
horrible decision. Clearly not going for a touchdown. There is right.
The throw that made in that particular play wasn't any good,
but like now we're going to overreact to one game,
which is essentially a preseason game because they don't play preseason.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Slow down, I know.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
But then they go out there, they play. I mean,
I thought they played a game the majority of the game.
They got beat by the Super Bowl champs again.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Drake, maybe.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
How about Dubs with that drop? That was a killer play.
We'll be talking about Drake if Dubs caught the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yes, I am so upset because he is fired up.
He is ready to do sports radio. His connection is lousy.
Dan Beyer, you're a radio guy. How bad is the connection?
Just like, would you be using Sal right now on
the air?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
It's like Romeo Dobbs catching a football. That's what it is.
There's just a lot of drops. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Can you set up an IR studios? Come on, Scotty.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Good God, I'm willing to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Sal should wear a guardian cap.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Zoom here. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Somebody give me a Comrex for good sake. I need
internet and a Comrex.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm ready to go. I hate missing this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I know you do. I don't know what to do
with him, Taylor. What do you think? You're the EP
around here, and I am not certain. I am not
getting good vibes here from Sherman Oaks. That's what I
can tell you. He just compared him to Romeo Dobbs,
and it was a fair comparison that Dan Myers just made.
You were sitting on that one. You were hoping I
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was going to ask you, Dan, right?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
I was calling the connection Romeo Dobbs. I was not
calling Sal Romeo Dobbs.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It was a good joke nonetheless. And Taylor has given
me nothing in terms of what we're supposed to do here.
So let's play the sound from the postgame show because
this will make you smile, Sal, because this is sports
radio at its core. Drake May is a quarterback that
took the Patriots to the Super Bowl a year ago.
They lost to the Seattle Seahawks. This is a good team.
(05:26):
Drake May is a good quarterback, although you have precious
little evidence based on what he did last night, especially
in that fourth quarter. But It's what have you done
for me lately in sports radio world? Taylor's going to
set this up for us. This is postgame from the
Patriots Seattle game last night.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, this is Mark Dondero, host of the Patriots postgame
on 98.5 The Sports Hub.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
They tried to hide him all night long with high
school plays, with the Zavarian playbook, high school, swing pass.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Little runs roll out.
Speaker 8 (05:58):
To nowhere high school football the second he had to
make NFL.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Plays or throws he was screwed he couldn't do he.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Made one NFL throw all night that was to Hollins
on one of the third downs that was a little
bit deep on an in cut nice timing He made
high school plays all night long. That's what happened. And
he could not step up. And that throw to end
the game was disgusting. That was incomprehensible and disgusting. To
even put the ball with that much air under it
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in that situation.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It was befuddling.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That was a joke.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
You cannot do that. He blew this game and he
was bad all night. I thought the only thing he
produced all night was high school level place, high school,
science class, chemistry.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It was awful. That's how you do it, Sal. I mean,
that's how you treat your quarterback who just got you
to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, I think it's ridiculous. The Drake May slander after
one game is absurd.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I'm afraid to talk. I don't know if you guys
can hear me or not.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Do you feel like everyone's staring at you? Like, is
that is that? Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Is it any better to be air? I said, like,
I don't want to ruin the show.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I like obviously I appreciate you even asking.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, I don't want to ruin the show.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Of course. Take me out.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
OK.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And we say give it a go.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So I apologize.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean, come on.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You're going to rip. Still, this is exactly what we
talked about, about sports.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Like now it's, Oh, how could you make that throw? Hey,
all the Patriots, they staying, blah, blah, blah. It's one
game getting warmed up here. I'll still take Drake may
on my team.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Any day of the week.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
No, for sure. But I do think, As sports media,
we might have crowned Drake May a little bit too
early because the confidence is part of what makes him
really special. But also you see in a game like that,
the confidence is also the thing that gets him beat
where the second Sam Darnold goes out. Drake May's focus
should have been, let's be a game manager. Let's get
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this game across the finish line. Let's go into this
road environment in Seattle against that defense and come out
of the game 1-0. And Drake May, he is not
capable of just taking what defenses give him. He mentioned
it after the game that it was unacceptable that he
kind of lost his patience there, where... If you just
have Drake May go out there and just try to
be a boring quarterback, not need to go out there
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and be a Superman-level quarterback, the Patriots win that game
pretty easily.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The Patriots should have won that game pretty easily. Drake
May was dreadful, especially in the third quarter. He needs
to be better. It's his second season. He's not a
rookie anymore. I realize he just took him to the
Super Bowl. I realize he had a good season. He
exceeded expectations. You cannot have three interceptions opening game of
the season in your second year as a starter in
the fourth quarter. You just can't do that if you're
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Drake May.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And going back, these problems for Drake May go back
to his UNC days. He always plays like he believes
every play is there for him to make. He trusts
his arm. He trusts his leg. He believes he can
get out of any situation. That's why when you see
him on a third down where you have overtime already secured,
throw off his back foot. That's a throw no quarterback
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in the NFL has ever been taught to make in
that situation.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
What is so great is Sal wants to respond to
all of this. He just has no confidence in his connection.
And so he doesn't know what to do. He has
no idea. Should I speak? Should I not speak? I
have no idea what to do here. But there is
one happy man on this show today, and that is
Dan Byer. I'm happy because Boston is miserable, and I
can't stand Boston. Dan Byer is happy because the Seahawks
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raised a banner last night. How about that?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Yes, that was quite the night. And while it was
like a root canal for the first three quarters, the
fourth quarter finally provided something, kind of like the Super
Bowl played out. But I would argue that it isn't
just one game for Drake May. If you're a Patriots fan,
think of the last three games that you've played, two
against Seattle and one against Denver. Arguably, the best defense
is that you're going to have in the National Football League.
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But when you're accustomed to 20 years of Tom Brady
picking apart any single defense that was thrown at him,
if Drake May has stinker after stinker after stinker, it
starts to add up a little bit and even the
game they beat the Texans and we talk about CJ
Stroud and the four interceptions it wasn't like May was
throwing for 350 yards and running all over the field
again against another good defense but I think this is
(10:13):
probably why the Patriots fan base is a little you
know head over heels not in a good way because.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Of this Dan, it's a fair point. Last five games
for Drake May, seven touchdowns, 11 turnovers, 24 sacks taken.
The problem is one of those games was the Super Bowl. Anyway, Taylor,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Drake May is going to torch bad defenses. No, no
Patriot fan today is worried about that, but that's not
what this season is about for Drake May. If we're
going to talk about him, like he's one of the
best quarterbacks in the NFL, he has to show that
he could beat good teams when plan a isn't working. When,
when a defense like Mike McDonald gets after him, show
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that you can stay disciplined, show that you understand when
the game is, asking you to not be a star,
just get the game across the finish line. And yesterday
was his first real test of that since the Super Bowl.
And I don't think there's anybody who could sit here
today and say that he didn't fail with flying colors.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Sam Darnold went down. I started thinking to myself, if
he's out for a prolonged period of time, who are
the Seahawks going to get as their quarterback? Because there's
no way they're going to go at it with Drew
Locke for 17 games. And my mind went to Russell Wilson.
I hate to admit this. Pass, pass, pass.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The second Sam Darnold went down, my first thought was
to open a sportsbook and just see what the price was.
And I saw the Patriots were minus 350 and Drew
Locke's warming up. And I'm like, how the heck are
the Seahawks going to win this game with Drew Locke? Thankfully,
I did not get that bet in.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Imagine there's a crack addict and there is crack so
close to him, but he just can't find the lighter.
That is what's going on with Sal right now. He
wants to chime in so badly. He's addicted to a microphone,
yet his microphone has a terrible connection and he can't talk.
It's a sports radio addict. who can't talk sports radio.
I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Want to go home and cry.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Did you get that?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I want to go home and cry.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, he said he wants to go home and cry.
If you miss the home on the radio, we didn't
get that.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Sounds kind of like Sam. Donald was here for the
first couple of plays and then gone the rest of
the way. Maybe that's the more apropos comparison.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's a very good one. The show's a mess. It's
just the way I like it. 877-99 on Fox. Sal
is so upset. 877-99 on Fox. We'll take a quick timeout.
Come back. Take some of your phone calls if we
have any. And if we don't, I don't blame you.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gatz and
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Speaker 2 (12:48):
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Speaker 1 (12:49):
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Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yes, congratulations. No one's paying attention. Football season has started.
We have let an angry Sal Licata go. His microphone
just wasn't working. He is so upset. He's going to
take it all home with him. He's going to be
angry for 24 hours, and hopefully we'll get him reconnected
and we'll do the show tomorrow. But man, is Sal upset. Yes,
he is so mad. Dan, an emotional night for you
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last night. You're Seahawks, you know, raising a banner. Big
win over the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
I'll tell you how last night ended up feeling because
I felt that New England had a lot of momentum.
It was nice to see Taylor's boy, Mac Hollins, for
Taylor's benefit, still get the run that he deserves when
everybody's being out. But it felt like a game of
cutthroat kitchen. Did you ever watch that show on Food
Network where they have to throw different obstacles? Maybe they'll
take away like your blender, but it was like, guess what? Seahawks.
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Now you're not going to play with Sam Darnold Patriots.
Now you're not going to have AJ Brown. You already
don't have Travion Henderson. It felt like a bit of
a watered down game when all of the pieces ended
up settling at the end, exciting and crazy, but it
was just weird on how inefficient it ended up being
offensively because of all of the offensive players that were out.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yep. AJ Brown, high ankle sprain. He'll be out. It
looks like maybe a couple of weeks here. Those are tricky.
Did you laugh? Because I did.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
A.J.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Brown, wide open, first half. But Drake May didn't have
a big enough arm to get him the ball. He
left Jalen Hurts to go to a quarterback who can
get him that ball, and Drake May underthrew him. They
got a pass interference penalty, but I was laughing because
Drake May felt so badly that he could not connect
with a wide open A.J. Brown who came to the
Patriots so a quarterback could connect with him on a
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deep ball. How about that?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
And it was their best play of the game, arguably. Like,
it truly was.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Ha ha!
Speaker 6 (15:09):
And then they score a touchdown, and no one's heard
of the guy. So everybody who's been waiting seven, eight
months for fantasy football are waiting for A.J.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
They're like, hey, I'm playing Ramondre Stevenson. There's no Travion Henderson.
And they throw it to someone that no one has
heard of.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yes, I was feeling really good when Darnold went out.
I was feeling great about my Seahawks not making the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
You even retweeted the tweet.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Do you think 10 years from now, if a Seattle
starting quarterback goes down, that Drew Locke is still going
to be coming in?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
The Drew Locke slander was so much that NFL insiders
were saying Jalen Milrow can't play unless Drew Locke gets hurt. Like,
I don't know who people were thinking, but people were
obviously thinking in their mind, boy, Drew Locke isn't going
to work out. Who could the Seahawks turn to instead?
That was the Drew Locke slander before he pulled off
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another Houdini act. He did this a couple of years ago,
filling in for Gino Smith against the Eagles on Monday
Night Football. I don't know why people are questioning the
greatness that is Drew Locke.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I don't think they questioned him in spurts in a
moment like that, like last night. They questioned him if
he has to start 16 more games, you know?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Fair enough. I thought Mike Tomlin made a really good
point in the postgame. He said, Drew Locke got most
of the reps in the preseason games. So if this
was an opportunity, he said this would have been maybe
different in week 10 or 11 where he'd been removed
from game action and wasn't getting a lot of reps
in practice. But his point was that Locke was probably
in step because of all of the preseason action. that
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he had. He played a majority of the two games,
didn't end up playing the last game for them, but yeah,
he had a lot of work in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So I know Drew Locke wasn't part of the Seahawks'
original game plan, but if you looked at the Patriots'
game plan before the game and you told somebody from
the Patriots that Mack Hollins would have more receiving yards
than A.J. Brown, Pop Douglas... and Romeo Dobbs combined, they
wouldn't like their chance to win that game, right?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
No. You would say, yeah, we're losing.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And yet, it came down to a Drake May interception
where the Patriots could have driven for the score to
win the game or at the very least kick a
very manageable field goal to have a chance to win
in overtime.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
That's what I thought was so interesting because Mike Vrabel
said afterwards, he's like, we want to be aggressive, I think,
and not reckless or whatever the phrase was. But if
you're new England on that time, do you want to
play for overtime? And I think most of us are like, yeah,
because they have drew lock on the other side. And again,
it's no disrespect for him, but you would think normally
on the road, let's go for the win. Let's close
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this out. You know, if there would be a chance
you needed to go for two, we're going to go
for two, the whole deal, but they were in field
goal range. And I felt at that point that that's
what made the interception. The third interception so bad was
that new England could play for overtime and still be
in a pretty good spot to win the game. And,
But it was thrown away by the underthrow.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Listen, I understand going for the victory. They had time.
They had timeouts. So I understand going for the victory.
Your safety net there is three points. It's the field goal.
So what you can't do is exactly what Drake May did,
which is force a pass he never should have made.
Patrick McEnroe and Brock, you are going to join us
in hour number two. It is a Think About It
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Thursday here. Give me the imaging and let's do it.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You know that segment, Talk About It Tuesday on Hockman, Crowder,
and Solero?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
This is like that, but bigger and better.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And 48 hours.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Later, this is Think About It Thursday. Think About It Thursday.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
This is Taylor's attempt to counter-program a local radio show
down here in Miami. Hockman, Solero, and Crowder. What do
you have for us today, Taylor?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So tonight's game, Niners versus Rams in Australia. Two different
styles of preparing. San Francisco arrived more than a week
early to acclimate. The Rams trained in California and arrived
in Melbourne only about a day before kickoff, trying to
keep their players closer to Pacific time. Which Australia strategy
would you guys rather have? Arrive a week early like
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San Francisco or basically get off the plane and play
like Los Angeles?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Wow, that's a good question. 877-99 on Fox. 877-99 on Fox.
So I've been to Australia, and I can tell you,
having been there for two weeks, after a week, I
still wasn't properly adjusted. There is no adjusting to that.
Raheem Morris missed his birthday on the flight to Australia.
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It's a long trip. I would rather just get off
the bird, play football, get back on the bird and
go home. That's just me. I think that's the right strategy. Dan,
what do you think?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Give me a week. I'd love to see the sights
and sounds, get the body clock adjusted. I'm on the
49ers plan, opposite of you, Stu Gatz. I've never been
to Australia. It's a long flight I've seen.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
As someone who's been to Australia, what I'm telling you
is a week is not enough. You're not adjusted after
a week. You might think you're adjusted, but you're not adjusted.
I think too many bad things can happen when you
go a week in advance, you know? And you're not
there to see the sights, Dan. You're there to win
a football game. I mean, what do you think? Vacation?
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Promote the game. Isn't that what Kevin Demoff or whatever
was fighting one of the fans or one of the
49er reporters about the Rams did not do their part
to spread the game, spread the love of the game
while the 49ers have been doing all of the goodwill
in Australia this past week?
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah. Taylor, what do you think? Because I didn't have
to think about that for long. I'm just like, yeah,
let's let's hop off the bird, play football and go home.
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, I think that sounds good. But if tonight we
turn on this game and Matthew Stafford gets off to
a sluggish start and the Rams look look pretty bad
early on. How quickly are we going to blame Sean
McVay for this travel strategy?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
They sent people to Australia. multiple times to test out.
That's the Rams excuse that they have. This is not
just something they came up with, that they have been
sending people over the last year back and forth to
see what their biometrics or whatever say.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Right. And it came back is just hop off the
bird and play football.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
The result said Stugatz theory. That's what it said. Stugatz
theory is the best theory.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
So, Dan, I saw that report that they sent staffers.
No offense to the Rams, because I'm sure the Rams
know more about how to do this than me. Well,
what is sending your analytics guy supposed to do to
help prepare, play a football game?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
It's all about body adjustment. That's it. Like, how long
did it take you to adjust to the time in Australia, right?
It doesn't matter who you are.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Todd feels fine. Todd's great.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Look at Todd right now. He looks great.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Look at Todd punching numbers into his calculator in our
apartment whatsoever. Our accounting department is a lot different than
how miles Garrett's body adjusts coming off the edge against
Trent Williams.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
But what about if Neil was okay as well, you know,
or Donna, like any of those, like if they're all
still at the top of their level, I think the
numbers will show that the Rams are making the right decision.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It seems excessive to send stampers out there just to
see how their body is reacting to being in Australia.
Stampers who aren't playing football.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Would you volunteer? That's the question. Like they tell you,
you got to go on a flight and you got
to immediately come back after a day. Is that a
perk or not?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
How am I flying? I mean, that's.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
I would think you would have to fly first class
because the Rams are flying first class.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Right.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You want to recreate it. Exactly.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yes. A charter jet for time.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
What a ridiculous premise.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Melissa.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Melissa got on this 16 hour flight and was able
to do her social media job. That's the same thing
as Matthew Stafford having to play a football game.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
The Rams said that they slept. And again, it's like
16 or 17 hours. But there's still like five or
six hours after you sleep. That you would probably wake up.
I think I probably would volunteer at least once to see.
But I don't know if you have to make like
a three trip commitment, because I think that's really how
you would also get the data as well.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yes. And Taylor, to answer your question, if the Rams
lose the game. Yes, of course. We'll blame McVay for
taking him too late. And if the 49ers lose the game.
We will blame Shanahan for taking them too early.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Also, I know this was going to be too quick
of a turnaround for Aaron Donald to play in this game.
You can't make the trip with the team. They're paying
you all this money. You can't go out there and
get your pom-poms and support your teammates.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I would say if you're Aaron Donald, you can have
it any way you want to have it. And if
he said, hey, I'll sign this contract, I ain't going
to Australia. The Rams are OK with that, you know,
and why shouldn't they be? Aaron Donald is back playing football.
And if they only get it for 16 games, who cares?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He's like Roger Clemens when he came back and Roger
Clemens was like, I'm not going on any road trips.
And the Yankees were like, well, we need this guy
to pitch. So I guess he's not going on any
road trips that he doesn't have to pitch in.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Oh, my gosh. Aaron Donald is in Georgia's box. That's
my Susan Waldman. That was a good one.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I've never done it before. It wasn't that good.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
I know it was awful, but that's okay. Great job.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I'll take it.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Thank you. Great job. I appreciate that.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'd like to recreate that if we could. Can we
get Susan Walman actually saying that Derek cheater?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Sam's too busy playing drops of me right now.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
That's great. I wanted to do a side by side
comparison of the real one and the fake one because
the fake one was dreadful. It was a good attempt though.
Let's take a call here.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
877-99.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Oh, the caller dropped. 877-99 on Fox. That is 877-99
on Fox. How do you feel about a game on
a neutral field? I can't stand these games. I really can't.
Rams 49ers is a game I should be excited for,
and yet it's hard to get excited for it, A,
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after last night's game, and B, when it's being played
across the country in Australia. I mean, what kind of
ridiculousness is this? There's going to be no atmosphere. There's
going to be nothing there. It's going to be a
bunch of people just happy to be in an NFL game.
I don't like it. I mean, can we start playing
enough with college football starting the season in Dublin, Ireland,
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and enough with the NFL starting the season, although it
started last night in Seattle, but enough with them having
one of their first two games in Melbourne, Australia. Nobody cares.
And nobody, and I mean nobody, not a single player,
not a single staffer, not a single coach on either
of those teams wants to be in Australia right now.
They don't.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So just a quick correction. You said across the country
in Australia. It would be across the globe.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
That's what I meant.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Other side of the world. You know, listen, we lost
the caller. We lost Sal. I'm very upset. Mikey is
not here. I have no idea what's going on. And
Dan Beyer has been forced into a co-hosting role that,
quite frankly, he wasn't expecting when he stepped in today.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
I love it. I even love my Waldman.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Let's hear the– Do we have Susan Waldman? Yes, you're
going to have to do it again, though, okay? So
you're going to have to– All right, you got it.
All right, so let's hear the real one first. This
is the real– this is what Dan was just attempting
to do. This is the real Susan Waldman making a
call here. Roger Clemens is in Georgia's box, and Roger
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Clemens is coming back. Oh, my goodness gracious. All right, Dan.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Aaron Donald is in George's box. Goodness gracious.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Thank you very much. Why are you giving him applause?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I look over before Dan starts and he's like stretching
his face out.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
He's getting ready for the Northeast accent, you know?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You have to.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Great job.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
That Yankee season, Stu, I got tickets before the season
started to two games. One of them was to that
game against the Mariners where Roger Clemens announced his comeback
from George Steinbrenner's box. And the second game that I
randomly had tickets to was against the Pirates where Roger
Clemens made his debut back at Yankee Stadium. And when
I went to Tahoe, I told Roger Clemens that story.
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He could, Stu, when I tell you, he couldn't have
cared less.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I told him that story, and he looked right through
me because his wife had just asked me to take
a picture of him and his wife together with Lake
Tahoe in the background. I was like, hey, Roger, big
Yankee fan. Back in 2007, this is what happened. And
he just looked at me and goes, just take the picture.
I've taken that picture. I know exactly the hotel you're
speaking of. I've been in that restaurant. They eat breakfast
there every single morning. I have taken that picture of
(27:56):
Roger and his wife. with the lake in the background.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I have. I've taken that same exact picture, and he
wasn't listening to me either. And I was trying to
small talk him. Did it ever dawn on you when
you're talking to Roger Clemens to ask him to come
on the show? Or did you just say, hey, Yanks,
go Yanks, rock it?
Speaker 9 (28:11):
No, he.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Stu, when I tell you he looked right through me
when I said that, like the 12-year-old in me was
very excited about to tell Roger Clemens how big of
a Yankee fan I was. And he couldn't even give him–
if I asked Roger Clemens the time of day at
that moment, he would have spit on me.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's an amazing quality he has where he could be
in Lake Tahoe for five days and nobody sees him.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
It's also a heck of a lot easier to not
say anything than to say, just take the picture. Like
that is another level as well.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
He might as well have snarled that.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
He gave you high heat.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
He was actively dismissing you. He could have passively done
it and just ignored it and fake that he didn't
hear it. But that is a next level jerk.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I think he misremembers. No, definitely not. After I handed
him the phone back, in my head I said, I'm
glad he's not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Really?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
You started insulting him. Just to yourself. Just to myself.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I said I think the Hall of Fame made a
good decision.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Internally, yes. Is Drew Locke on the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks?
Put it on the poll, Taylor. I think he is. Mr. Reliable, right?
Drew Locke. I think he is on the Mount Rushmore
of backup quarterbacks. Backup quarterback has become such an important
position in the NFL because the quarterback position is the
(29:36):
most important position in sports. They get hit a lot.
They go down occasionally and they get hurt occasionally. And
I'm telling if you remember, Dan, Patrick Mahomes went down
for a drive or two. And I think it was
Damon Eward and Brock Eward's going to come on an
hour number two. But I think it was Damon Eward
who led them on a 98-yard drive. It was not.
It was somebody else.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
It was Chad Henney.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Chad Henney is on the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks. That's
who I was thinking of, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So Mount Rushmore has four spots.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Nick Foles has to be on there.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well, Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. Jeff Hostetler probably
has to be on there.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Hostetler's the second spot. And if you have Chad Henney,
now you're looking for a fourth spot.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think it's Drew Locke.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
I feel like Gardner Minshew is our generation's backup. Like
right now, like the key is the backup quarterback. Like
Jacoby Brissett is good enough to now start for Arizona
where Minshew's, you know, backing up. I feel like Minshew
is our guy right now. But if Locke could have
this just for a couple more weeks, he could be
the guy. I mean, there is Minshew mania and all.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Drew Locke has to be careful because, you know, you
get exposed when you start multiple games in the NFL.
Just take your quick stints, get in, get out. It's
kind of like the L.A.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Rams.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Hop off the bird, play football, hop back on the
bird and go home. Drew Locke doesn't want to start
16 games.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
No, you don't want to hire him full time. Just
give him a part time job on the weekends.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
That's right. What is Ricardo muttering back there? I keep
hearing Ricardo in the background. He is upset that we
have left someone off the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, he keeps saying Earl Morrell.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh, he's right.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Morrell. Yes.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I don't know the 1972 Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
The only undefeated team in the history of the NFL.
Bob Greasy went down. Earl Morrell came in. Preach. And
took him all the way to the Super Bowl. I
think Greasy came back for that Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
But I don't think Earl Morrill should be on the
Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks. I'm not even certain Hostetler should.
I'm just thinking of guys who come in. They go out.
They do their job. They keep you afloat. They get
you a W. Davis Mills is the perfect example. That
is the guy. He's a great backup.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I think part of it, too, is you have to
have a good backup quarterback name, like Bubby Brister.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That's a great backup quarterback name.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Chris Sims has told us that backup quarterback is the
best position, best job in sports. You get paid seven figures,
you hold a clipboard, and nobody hits you.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
I mean, it's... It's hard to argue.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
877-99 on Fox. We have a ton of calls here. Again,
Patrick McEnroe, I finally get to talk some tennis. He's
going to join us in hour number two. Brock Ewart.
is going to join us in hour number two as well.
Does a local show, the biggest show in Seattle. Looking
forward to speaking to him about what transpired last night
and the status of Sam Darnold. Let's go out to John,
who's in Iowa today. John, go ahead. You're on Fox
(33:02):
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
How are you guys doing this afternoon?
Speaker 7 (33:05):
Good.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
How are you, John? Good.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Good. say, you know, the whole, the, the, the Mount
Rushmore backup quarterbacks, you know, this guy didn't, didn't win
a championship, but I'm wondering if Frank Reich is worth
throwing into that conversation that he authored one of the biggest, well,
at the time it was the biggest comeback in NFL history.
(33:29):
And actually I think it was only recently eclipsed by
my Minnesota Vikings, maybe two or three seasons ago when
they came back massively against, I think it was the
Indianapolis Colts. But that game that Frank Wright.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Came in, masterful. Yes, yes. Automatically puts them on the
Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks just for that game and that
game alone. I believe it was a wild card game.
They were down big to the Oilers going into the
second half. He came in, he brought him back. That
team went back to the Super Bowl and, of course, lost.
But Frank Wright is deserving, Dan, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Absolutely. And I also think that his quarterbacking career has
followed his coaching career better as an offensive coordinator than
as a head coach. You know what? Frank Reich is
your normal starter. He's good as the backup. Maybe you
don't want him as the head coach, but sure. Have
him run an offense and he'll put that to test
this year with the Jets. So if the Jets have
any success, the theory ends up handing out. All right.
(34:27):
It is locked in concrete in ink.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Done.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
A movable object versus the unstoppable force.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Something has to give. Ricardo, we'll get back to the
calls in a second. He has not stopped during the
break with Earl Morrill. And perhaps we should reconsider this.
He did help the Dolphins to an undefeated season in
the Super Bowl. What else do you have for us, Ricardo,
as his biggest fan?
Speaker 9 (34:52):
Well, just looking him up on footballreference.com, in 1968, he
went 13-1 as the backup quarterback at Baltimore for Johnny Unitas.
And then he actually played in the Super Bowl that
Namath beat you guys.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
So he's lost one game, essentially, as a starter. Yeah. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
As a starter, he went 63 and 36 in his career.
And these are backup quarterback stats right here. 161 touchdowns
and 148 interceptions.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
No, but what I'm saying is he came in for
Johnny Unitas. They lost a single game. He came in
for Bob Greasy. They didn't lose any games. That's right.
So if you don't start him, that's the key. And
our moral might have to be in consideration. Mount Rushmore
backup quarterbacks. How about that?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
And Kurt Warner is someone who was a backup quarterback.
He was just disguised as one. He was a Hall
of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But he just ended up.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So, like, even though he started as a backup quarterback,
some of these guys do, but they're just not in
that backup realm. Like, it's a special sort of group.
You either have it or you don't.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah. Let's go to Kurt, who's in Nevada today. Kurt,
go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Hey, one of the greats who's also a field goal
kicker and had a single-bar face mask, George Blanda.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh, yes, Blanda. Back when football was football, right?
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
All right, thank you for the call, George Blanda. Listen,
you never know what's going to get the phones ringing,
and I had no idea that Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks,
and we should be playing the sound of Taylor saying
black up quarterback on Martin Luther King Day, but somehow
we haven't gotten to it yet. Black backup quarterback. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Black backup quarterback. Black backup quarterback. No disrespect to George Blanda.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, what about it?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Black backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
When you say that, you're about to disrespect someone, just
so you know. All right.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't respect anybody whose helmet looks like something they
bought from Toys R Us. Looks like such a cheap helmet.
That's what they were wearing back in the day?
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
A one-step evolution from the leather helmet, what George Blanda
was wearing.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I wouldn't even say back in the day. Joe Theismann
wore that helmet in the 80s. He did. Single board.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I'm looking at a picture of George Blanda playing quarterback.
I'm assuming he's like 29 in this photo. He looks
like he's 45. Oh, wow. He played until he was 48.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
He did. It was a different time.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That's a testament to how bad football was back then.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
How old was Brady? Brady technically a backup Brady, by
the way, to Drew Bledsoe.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Fair enough.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yes, only quarterback on both Mount Rushmore's. We'll continue taking
your calls. 877-99 on Fox next.
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