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How cold? Is it going to be? Single digits?
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Yeah, it's not.
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Exactly? It is a big deal.
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Speaker 4 (02:10):
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Speaker 7 (02:11):
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Byer on Fox. Earlier this week in Arizona, a record
was shattered. I don't want to I want to make
this clear. I am not going to sit here for
the next fifteen to twenty minutes and criticize a seventeen
year old or eighteen year old athlete in high school.
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It's everything that goes around what happened in this high
school basketball game in Arizona. Guard by the name of
Adrian Stubbs, playing for Phoenix Maryvale High School, set an
Arizona record earlier this week by scoring one hundred points. Wow,
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in a game. The Wilt Chamberlain of high school basketball
scored one hundred points in a game, and I was
curious to read the details. Seventy points in the first half,
he had thirty more in the third quarter, and Monzi
didn't even play in the fourth quarter. Wow. So that's
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it's awesome stuff, and I don't want to take away
from the kid. Final score one oh nine to twenty.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Five, and that's problem.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Number one, the record that was broken. Nicomannon, you know
from Arizona Wildcat Fame, had the record for Class six
A scoring fifty seven points in a game. The all
time Arizona record in all class basketball was seventy five
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that was held since nineteen sixty six. Was when the
seventy five points were scored in a game, and on Tuesday,
the Nicomannon record it was not only shattered, it was
obliterated in a game where a team won by eighty
four points. And this is I'm not criticizing the kid, no,
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I just am trying to find the the goodness for
everyone involved, because I just don't know if having a
kid score one hundred points in an eighty four point
blowout is good for anybody involved in that game.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I don't disagree with you, Dan.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
When I first heard the headline, I was like, Oh,
let's look into this, because records are meant to be broken.
I feel that way. I would love to break a record.
But then when you get into the details of how
this happened, You're like, why did you even play in
the third quarter?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Why, what is the point of this?
Speaker 7 (05:01):
You scored one hundred out of the one hundred and
nine points for your team. I was hoping it was
gonna be like a guy scored one hundred points in
a close game where they won one thirty to one
twenty five.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
And then I would be like, oh my god, how awesome.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Yes, And instead I'm over here just like better, why
why did you play in the second half at all?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And this is where I like, I think the if
the teammates around him. By the way, if you just
do the math, no one on the winning team scored
in double digits. You had one guy in triple digits,
and then you had the rest of the team scoring
nine points. So there's not only that, there's a concerted
effort to have. By the way, it is not uncommon.
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It is actually more of the norm where you have
one amazing player on a team and they get a
lot of the action, they score a lot of the points,
and the other players fill in their spots. Sometimes they
benefit from its scoring higher games, but it's usually not.
Someone scores one hundred and then the next highest score
score six. But the players had to be in on
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it as well. If no one is taking shots, and that,
to me then is coaching, because it's obviously coming from
the coaches in saying let's get this guy the record.
They admitted that the the player, Adrian Stubbs, had scored
fifty six in a previous game this season or last season,
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so it was one shy of the record. So getting
the record of the Class six A in Arizona was
a goal of theirs, and it probably should be to
help their teammate get that goal. I just you can't
do it in a game where you win by eighty
four points. And that's that's my problem with it is
somebody there has to be an adult. Somebody has to say, okay,
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this is a little too much, because it takes active
thinking to say he's going to get one hundred. Right,
he didn't play in the fourth quarter. That was the
decision that was made. Your point, Monty is spot on.
The decision was made to play in the third quarter
when he had already broken the record. So now then
you continue with what you're going for. If you want
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to break the record, and he came close last time,
and maybe there was a bad call or whatever, that's fine.
Break the record. You don't have to obliterate the record
and obliterate the other team while doing so. I just
this to me is I know high school hoops is
a different game, but this, to me is just not
good at any level of play whatsoever.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Nobody reads that story and is impressed by the end
of it. People are just questioning, why did you do that?
How did you walk away from that patting yourself on
the back because there was no competition and you broke
the personal record that you were trying to get.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Before the third quarter.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
So I agree with you, Dan, where is the coaching
in this, because again, this isn't impressive. Nobody's going to
look at this and reach out to this coach and
have them on a show to discuss how amazing this,
this you know, record break breaking was.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
It is not. It's not impressive. I'm not impressed at all.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
The teammates didn't score until the second half. He scored
all the points in the first half, and the Adrian
stubs the player. I don't want to, I just I
I have a tough time being critical of a teenager.
I just have I'm just very critical of this whole situation.
He admitted. He's like, my guy's just passed me the
ball all the time. The guys got the steals and
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they would pass me the ball. But I don't know
why there isn't an adult anywhere that says, all right,
this is cool and all, but let's let's be respectful
of what this is because it sure feels like it's
gaming the system. Absolutely, Jason Stewart, our executive producer.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
So we said, this coach's name yet, Jeremy Smith, Jeremy Smith,
Merriville's head coach, Jeremy Smith, You're an a hole, That's
what I would say. Anybody who's played competitive sports knows
that there's a certain decorum. There's a word called sportsmanship,
and I I just wanted to look up the definition
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so that maybe Derek Smith never looked it up, or
Jeremy Smith's yeah, and no no, his brother Dick Smith. Yeah.
Fair and generous behavior or treatment of others, especially in
a sports contest. Fair. What was fair and or generous
about this behavior by the coach that leaves his kid
in the game to pile on another team that's already
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getting their ass kicked. To me, this is like a
fireable offense if you're saying's where are the adults of
the room. Whatever the school's athletic director is or head
of boosters or the PTA president, whoever is the adult,
should should move to fire this person. This is setting
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the worst possible example for future men.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I can't I just can't wrap my head around to
Manzie's point of coming out of halftime and being like,
let's have him get one one hundred, right, so he doesn't? Right? Yeah,
so what you did in the fourth quarter, because your
simple math would tell us if you don't play in
the fourth quarter and you have one hundred points, then
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their team scored less than nine points or less in
the fourth quarter. So you can turn it off. You
can't turn it off. You can turn it down, you
can let other guys do whatever. But if this guy
scores one hundred, I'm guessing unless they're you know, maybe
the team around him isn't the strongest. And that that
happens in high school. I'm not gonna blame them. But
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did they turn it off because they were winning by
so much? Or did they turn it off because their
team couldn't make baskets? And I don't think that they
couldn't make baskets. I think that they turned it off consciously,
which makes everything that happened in the whole game that
much worse. I also just can't stand the fact if
you have now obliterated a record, that is going to
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take someone else doing this to be able to break it.
Manzi's point of him scoring one hundred points in a
high school game where it's one thirty to one eighteen
was probably a long shot, but we had hopes that
maybe that was the case. Now that's the type of
game that's gonna happen unless you're gonna beat someone one
hundred and eighteen to four and have your star players
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score one hundred and five points. So you've had this
record that has stood since nineteen sixty six of seventy
five points and said, hold on, not only are we
going to break that one, and we're going to break
the record that we wanted to break earlier this year
of fifty seven, we are going to put it so
far out of reach that no one else can even
have the glory or honor of trying to win this
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break this record. And that part is even uglier. On
top of doing what they did to this team that
lost by eighty four points.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
You're taking away the fun of it of chasing a
record that seems attainable, and also someone is going to
drop in the future let's say seventy five points in
a game, right, it's going to be a close game,
and that game is going to be remembered because this
is going to become something that's not taken seriously.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Like it's just not we can't take this seriously.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
This is a joke, and you made a joke of
the game, like Jason Stewart is saying, I agree with you,
how this is a joke of the game, of competition,
of the records, and I just don't I don't get
what you walked away from that feeling good.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Of all the things that Barry Bonds may not be
liked for, the seventy three home runs in a season
is the part that makes me the most mad. It's
not the all time mark. You can say whatever you want.
It's the point of what we had. Aaron Judge hit
sixty two, and now everybody's hitting homers in Major League
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Baseball and we're still eleven away from tying the record. Right,
so Judge hits sixty two, we phrase it in the
AL record, Well, no one's gonna get the NL slash
MLB record because it's so far out there. And so
for all the things of what Balco and Barry Bonds represented,
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and I may not be as passionate against them as
others are. The thing that does make me mad is
we will not have an opportunity to see someone break
the single season home run record unless something like a
Barry Bond sort of situation happens again, which is the
same thing would happen in Arizona in a high school
gym this week.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
And when you even look at it like that, I
know it's very hard, but there is a chance we
may see someone hit seventy three. There is a chance
eleven eleven home runs over the course of the season.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
The way the way you know, maybe the balls are
changing and offense is going, it can happen. This other
record it legit.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
I don't know if it can be broken like legit
can a high schooler score one hundred and one points
unless you literally do the same thing again. It's gonna
be this guy again. Games system, Yeah, he's gonna it's
gonna be the same guy.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
He's gonna play the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
What what? What's it's such it's such a bad example, uh,
to everyone involved. Don't if there are parents that were
watching the game that were behind it. And I think
that the kid is sitting there saying, my teammates want this.
I want to do it for my team. We see
this in the NFL. I want to get the rushing
record for my five guys who block for me. That's fine,
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that's I understand that portion of it. And I think
probably in their eyes they're saying he gave credit to
his teammates. The teammates are like, yeah, right, our guy
got this. We got a part of this. But there's
another team. There's other teams in the future that you
that will have to deal with. None of that was
taken into consideration. And I don't put that on the
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shoulders of the fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen year olds. I
put it on the shoulders of Jeremy Smith and the
adults in the room, or the adults in the gymnasium,
and and heck you mas I hadn't play the fourth
quarter part right, Yeah, I mean, it seems like it's
almost even just pity. Otherwise, considering that you felt like
this was the need that let's get them a hundred.
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I understand the fascination with the number. It's just it's
just such an awful look. And honestly, the article that
I read about it was lifting it up.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
It seemed I felt like.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It was up an uplifting story, and I just didn't
find a lot uplifting from it. And I think when
you look back and the kids look back when they're older,
they're going to kind of understand what actually transpired and
maybe why the adults in the room failed them on
that night.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
The opposing team, I don't even I can't even imagine
being the parents of the opposing team in that situation
and seeing your kids be embarrassed like that. Like I
would I would have just been like, why are we playing?
You know what I'm saying, Like, this is why I'm
not having kids.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Guys, because I will be fighting on the court that situation.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, there would be some teams that maybe someone would
take offense for a hard follow up.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Absolutely no, it's ugly. It's ugly, and it makes no sense.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
It's ugly and and I don't disagree with you guys.
You know about a lot of this stuff, especially a
sportsmanship angle. But this is not without presidents. Iowa's own
women's basketball coach Jan Jensen. In nineteen eighty, Guests seven
scored one hundred and five points, in a game that
was six on six girls basketball. And then our very
own Jack Taylor out of Grenell College, Division three.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
He scored let's see, uh, he scored one hundred and
thirty eight points in a game.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Yeah, but Grinell would score two hundred points. I know,
but it's like, yeah, but this was. I mean he
had fifty eight at half time. I mean, just like there,
this happens. It's just for different reasons. People have different
motivations behind this.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Grinnell was a story for a while in sports because
of how they played, because of those huge numbers. But
what were the final scores of their games? It was
like two eleven to like one to fifty three or
something in this particular game.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Different In this particular game they won by seventy five,
so it was one one seventy nine to one oh four.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
So I mean you can say what different. That's still
way different, No, I know.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
But like, yeah, back in the day, people didn't care
about this stuff. You're gonna jan Jensen goes out and
scores one hundred and five points. I don't know many
people were licking their wounds afterward.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I just I think that and I don't know what
the score of the Jan Jensen game was I was
looking for it. They won probably by one hundred and ten.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
Probably, And that's that's probably with women's and girls basketball
as it gets really even in college at Division one level,
it can get really out of hand.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I also, Jan Jensen was a top player, and this
is the point that we made earlier of a lot
of schools have one player where they're just better than everybody.
She's probably taller than everyone. And the scoring that wasn't
even a three point there's different rules. And yeah, there
was this half court I get. I don't know even
that she didn't have to play defense. It was six
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on six. Yeah, like Grinell, they're chucking up threes. It's
part of the pace of the game. This was one
of the thing that was pointing out that he scored
one hundred by only having six threes. You know, so
like this is a so this is you know, a
part of the competition. But scoring one hundred and four
points in a game that you lose by seventy is
a lot different than scoring twenty four points in a
game that you lose by eighty four. And it's also
the pace of the play and you're probably not conditioned
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enough to keep up, and I would assume that the
score just continues to get larger and larger as it
goes on. This game was probably forty eight to scored
thirty five in the first quarter. It was thirty five
to two probably at the night the first quarter.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
I think if I was in the crowd and watching this,
I'd start to feel sick after a while, like, yeah,
I didn't I said, I didn't disagree with you guys.
The sportsmanship aspect is the rough part of all of this,
and just start of you're watching something unfold and at
some point, yeah, when do you do step forward and
be like, hey, maybe you just need to like it.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
It's in this opportunity, is what it is. Like, this
was the opportunity to actually show the players what sportsmanship is.
If he was to get pushback from those players like man, coach,
let's let's get them to one hundred, then you could
pull them aside and be like, this is why we're
not going to do this tonight. In this game, We're
kicking their ass. I'm pulling off the dogs. I'm just
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pulling it off. That's what you're supposed to do. And
by the way, I think the listeners are probably wondering
how many points did the Warriors score the night or
the Sixers the Warriors the night that Well, Chamberlain scored
one hundred. It was one hundred and sixty nine points. Okay,
would you believe this? The top three scoring games of
all times Wilt at one hundred, Kobe at eighty one,
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and then Wilt at seventy eight. Two of those three
were done in losses. I didn't know that interesting, Yeah,
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I had no idea. When you see, like in the NFL,
you have like a five hundred yard passing game, most
of those are done the losses because the team's behind,
you're throwing the football and maybe you make a comeback
and you're still throwing the football. But that that's interesting.
And so those were competitive basketball games where correct where
players were actually at their best. Tell you another thing,
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where if if the player would have broken the record
at fifty eight, maybe the next game he tries to
break it at sixty right, right, then there's more of
a feeling of accomplishment here. Yes, it feels like it's
a very empty record to just try to rack it
up yourself, like there would have been competition. Maybe maybe
you do on your own in a competitive game break
the all time state mark of seventy five for whatever
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crazy you know reason that is. But it sure feels
like they try to take advantage of the school that
they were playing and do it to their own benefit,
and nobody won in this situation.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Empty. I like that you said that. You said that,
It's like, how satisfying is this? Really? You're gonna tell
people about this?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:17):
And then it's again not the kid, but like the coach.
You're you're gonna tell people about Yeah, my kid on
my team scored one hundred points and we crushed this
team one hundred and two whatever, twenty five, thirty five.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
It was like, how is this satisfying?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah? I have no idea at all. If I was
the other coach, I would have just I don't know
if they have a shot clock in Arizona. I assume
that they do, because otherwise at one point I would
have just held the ball at half court. Yeah, been
like all right.
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It's cold here. They're in LA and night. I would die,
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Speaker 4 (21:16):
Just don't get it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Temperatures being the single digits between the Rams and Bears
when they kick off in the final game of the
divisional playoff weekend in Chicago. It'll be a five to
thirty local time kickoff for the Bears, home to the
Los Angeles Rams. Weather today in southern California where we
are based, the home of the Rams, the Rams headquarters
not too far from where our network headquarters are, maybe
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about a ten to fifteen minute drive down the freeway. Tonight,
seventy seventy five degree day, slight, heavier breeze, maybe because
of some of the Santa Annas coming in, but they're
going to be going into Chicago and dealing with these
single digit temperatures that my he doesn't want anything to
do with. Sean McVay has no problem with.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
It, you know how the actual just cold in general
in terms of how the ball feels. But last year
was a great example of you know, we had two
really cold games. But fortunately, you know, Matthew's played in
these conditions and so doesn't change. There's a couple of
things you have to be mindful of. But now you
start talking about wind, rain and how that really affects
your footing, stuff like that. But we always kind of
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adjust and adapt to you know, they've got to be
able to play in those same sort of elements. They
obviously have had a little bit more experience, but we're
not going to allow that to be an excuse. And
so I think you do have to have a feel.
But I think the way that our guys play, I
think it suits us well in any sort of conditions.
And that's kind of what we've always said.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
He has to say that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So you think that he believes that there are issues.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
I think he hopes that there aren't, and but that's
what he has to say. He can't admit that it's
something that it's even being entertained of how cold it's
going to be.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
He can't admit that. But you know they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It, I'm sure, and they're gonna be bundled up. But
remember what they did last year against Philadelphia, And he
mentioned the two cold weather games they had last year.
So they're playing the game against the Eagles and all
of a sudden it starts to snow and all hell
breaks loose and they can't hold onto the football and
the Eagles take charge. But then the Rams kind of
find their footing and are driving against Philadelphia with an
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opportunity to maybe win that game and pull out the upset.
They aren't able to do it, but they adapted at
that point. And the one thing that I think is
sometimes misunderstood when it comes to weather is we talk
about this a lot when it's a warm weather team
going to a cold weather spot. If this was Chicago
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and Green Bay last week, like it was on a
Saturday night, it wasn't as much of a discussion because
the both teams are playing. It's how is the warm
weather team going to do in the cold weather? But
the cold weather isn't like the Bears are living in
it and always practicing in it. They're not going to
practice this inn eight degree weather outside all week long. Now,
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maybe they'll do something outside, maybe they'll try to get
accustomed to it. That can happen, but it's people like,
can you how can you live in this weather? Well,
it's not like you're outside for twelve hours of the
day when it's three degrees You usually inside. And so
while it's cold outside Mountcat, nobody really loves the cold
unless you're going out ice fishing and snowmobiling. That's how
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you end up embracing it. But nobody's like, man, I'll
love it when it's freezing cold and I can't fill
the ends of my fingertips. Like no, you work inside,
you go, you bundle your coat, you run to your car,
you turn on the heater. It's nice and warm in
there after a little while. And so it's not like
the Bears are fully equipped just because they're from the
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team from Chicago. There's still some getting used to the cold.
So my point being is it's going to be cold
for the Bears too, and it's not going to be
as easy for them as it would be if temperatures
were nicer.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Matt Collins loves the cold. First of all.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
He's probably the only one Matt Collins always you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
But you're right.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I thought she said Matt Collins, and I'm like, who
is Matt Collins?
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Sorry, he loves the cold. I still think there's an
advantage to it. I mean this past season, Sam Darnold
didn't play that well in Carolina, where I think it
was one of the coldest games that he experienced this season.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
And it's gonna be even colder.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
I'm not saying it's going to the end all be
All is the weather, and it's in the favor of Chicago,
but I do think it matters.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
They live in Chicago. They experience it on a day
to day basis.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Here in LA it's like you're not used to that,
and just showing up and having to play. I think
that's it's gonna be tough, especially.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
You know, the Bears are hot. I know it's gonna
be coold, but they're hot right now.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah. I think the Rams would rather be playing in
Los Angeles, absolutely at home in there.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
I think they'd rather be playing in a lot of
different areas, not not against a team who's hot and
has just had these wins where you're like, how did
you do this?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
But you think they'd rather be playing in Seattle? I
do you think they'd rather face the Seahawks in better
conditions than playing I don't think it's I don't think
it's crazy. I don't agree with you, but I just
am surprised that you would think that.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
I just think that playing in Chicago and against the Bears,
there's a lot of unpredictability.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I feel like they play the seahawsd I were familiar
with this, were.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
Used to this, you know what I'm I feel like
it's just more familiar territory.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I feel if the Bears were a defensive team, it
would be a little different. But the Bears that relied
just as much in their offense, if not more than
the Rams do. So that's why I think it could
be a Bears factor. Jason Stewart native Southern Californian.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Yeah, I care more about how sports are covered than
the actual sports themselves. So when I see a headline
on this at Pro Football Talk and I see that
reporters are asking McVeigh this question, I always just kind
of get disappointed in journalism because I guess it's one
of those things where we just run out of things
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ways to cover these teams. This is like the low
hanging fruit of narratives. Warm weather team, cold weather team.
Let's ask the coach of the warm weather team how
it impacts our team. It just seems to be so
lazy to me, and the fact that like a pro
football talk even makes it a story to me is lazy.
And by the way, Sam, who loves his bump music,
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came back with a great one.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Right.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
It was a was it Maybe It's Cold Outside? That
was canceled ten years ago because it's kind of but
it's cold outside. Why don't you check for yourself, maybe
it's cold out? Yeah, So I did my own thing
as we as we can bind the Rams head coach
and the bump song, and it's like mcvaby, it's cold outside, mcvaby,
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it's cold outside.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I love it. I want to bring Chris purfet in.
You covered the Lions for years. They're oh, yeah, cold
weather city, but they play indoors mm hmm. Any history
with the Lions having issues with the cold weather I.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Do know they do have. So it's funny you say that,
but I know in Allen Park, where their practice facilities
are they are, they do have an outdoor field and
they pointedly make a point to go out and practice
in the cold. I was actually trying to look up
Stafford's record in cold weather games before the Rams, because
the one that always comes up is the one and
nine with the Rams. I couldn't dig it up, but
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I mean that would always still come up with him
when he was in Detroit was well, they play in
a dome, and it's like, yeah, but they can practice
outside too.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Here's what also happens is like teams don't have great
records because they're not great teams. Yeah, yeah, that's that's
the other part. Yeah, yeah, that's well, that's why you
didn't win. You weren't that good, Like it doesn't matter
that the temperature was below whatever. The Dolphins and just
their struggles in history are the reason why I think
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it's Jason Stewart. It's a story. And but like when
you go and play a frigid game in Kansas City
and you don't know if Tua has the arm strength
to throw the football or throw the rock because it
literally is a rock. For how cold it is out there,
that does become a storyline in the game. So I
think it's legitimate in those situations. But sometimes the team
just isn't good enough. And I remember the reason I
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brought up the Lions too, is we remember what happened
in the final week of the year when green Bay
need to get into the playoffs a couple of years ago.
The Lions come in the lines win that game in
cold weather. It was cold there, and they're the indoor team,
but they're kind of used to it. It didn't affect them.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Something that would always come up near the end of
the year too. First off, you're always playing that one
cold weather game in green Bay against you know, Aaron
Rodgers to your point, but also Stafford usually by the
end of the year with the Lions, because he didn't
have a lot of offensive line help, usually ended up banged
up as well. So suddenly you've got a cold weather
game on top of the fact that his hand is mangled,
or he's been smacked in the side, or that one
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year where his back was broken. And so instead of
talking about that, we talk about how he does in
a cold weather game on the top of it.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And I'll just I'll wrap it up by saying this.
Once you get maybe even through the first half of
the first quarter, you get through the first quarter, it's over.
Like you're just so focused on the game and you've
adapted to the conditions. It's not like in the fourth
quarter they're like, oh, he didn't catch the ball because
he lives, you know, in Calabasas, Like, that's not the
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reason why. It's not that he's from southern California, and
it's not that the Bears are making the plays because
they're in the cold weather. At first, it's a shock.
You try to get used to it. But once the
game goes on, and that's really in any conditions, you
end up altering. I don't think it becomes a factor
once the game. The game rolls on.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
What do you got god, I should say, And then
you go to halftime, and then you go inside, and
then you warm up, and then you have to go
back out again.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Let's start it all over.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Those things warm coats on the side, you got the heat,
the heat lamps and all the stuff too.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
That's things when you go to the mall. But in
the game, like you're you can adjust.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Sam forgive me if you brought this up already, but
I mean, our most recent example of this actually being
a thing anecdotally being like proven is Tua right.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Did you guys mention too?
Speaker 8 (30:55):
I'm sorry, but yeah, you notice the difference that that
that he pow he plays and how the Dolphins play
in general.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I just said, that's the reason why I think that
this is a story. I think the Rams last year
almost beating the Eagles would prove that they're able. They're
capable to what Sean McVay said. But I do think
like a situation like the Dolphins where I got you
yeah no, and they played that cold weather game against
the Chiefs, why it continues to be a story. She's
Monty Blagos. I'm Dan Bayer. John Harbaugh is the new
head coach of the New York Giants leaning that way
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and reports surface last night, but not everybody was reporting it,
and that's what stuck out like a sore thumb. She's
Moncey Blagos. I'm Dan Byer. Will tell you about the
drama involving the breaking news about the Giants new head
coach next year on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in
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Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
App Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Bayer. She's Moncey Belagno
singing out on a Thursday. Hella forty nine.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Eve, you're gonna be a forty nine er.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I know it's awful. Be worse timing as a Seahawks fan.
Turn to the Big four nine tomorrow. Jason Stewart is here,
Chris Prophet's at the news desk Iowa. Sam is our
technical producer. Last night, MONSI, you were sitting where Chris
Burfett was at the news desk, And what time locally
was it? Around ten o'clock local time one am?
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I would say a little bit maybe before that, maybe
like nine thirty Local time, nine o'clock.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Thirty on the East Coast Love and thirty Central time zone.
New started to trickle in. The Giants were finalizing a
deal to make John Harbaugh their next head coach. But
something interesting happened along the way last night. And if
you weren't on social media, or maybe you were in bed,
maybe you were asleep because you're on the East Coast,
it wasn't the normal breaking news we get for a
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story of this magnitude. I mean, this is the top
head coaching candidate we believe, with going to New York
in one of the in the biggest market there is
and one of the more popular teams in the NFL.
There was nothing from NFL insiders on this, Ian Rapaport, silent,
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nothing from Tom Pelasero. So Adam Schefter of ESPN and
Jordan Schultz have this enormous freeway to navigate whatever their
message is because they're not getting all clogged up by
the other NFL insiders. They're also reporting this, and I
knew that there were local reporters as well, but you
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couldn't just say the Giants and John Harbaugh are finalizing
a deal to make him the next head coach, especially Manci,
when no one else was tweeting about this. So then
Jordan Schultz and Adam Schefter had to be creative and
find different ways to say the exact same thing.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Over and over, over and over again.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
This is an example of Adam Schefter, So in breaking
the news with John Harbaugh, he then quote tweets his
own post on x saying John Harbaugh was with the
Eagles from nineteen ninety eight to two thousand and seven,
before taking the Ravens head coaching job in two thousand
and eight. He now returns to the NFC East to
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take over as the Giants head coach that was once
This is Adam Schefter again. The Giants believe they have
franchise cornerstones including Jackson Dart, Malik Neighbors, Andrew Thomas, Dexter, Lawrence,
Brian Burns, Abdul Carter, cam Skataboo, among others, and now
they're expected to land a new head coach to lead them,
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John Harbaugh. Same thing, da same thing. What Rappaport's sleeping?
So why not go again? This from Adam Schefter. The
Giants went from two thousand and four to twenty fifteen
with one head coach in Tom Coughlin. Since then they've
gone from Ben McAdoo to Pat Shermer, to Joe Judge
to Brian Dabole bringing in John Harbaugh's the hope of
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restoring the stability the organization once had. It's all word salad,
that's all it is. But guess what, Manzi, they have
all the lanes to them. And Jordan Schultz, who's newer
to this game and we know made headlines last year
with the running that he had at the Starbucks with
Ian Rappaport. He was also in on doing what Schefter was.
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They both tweeted a picture of Jackson Dart and made
reference to John Harbaugh and Jackson Dart now working together.
But Jordan Schultz's way of doing it was very dramatic.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Yes, okay, he took a cinematic approach, adding that extra
Moncey has got some acting chops.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I do not, But one of my favorite memes on
X was the Transformers Michael Bay ending Chris Popfett, Is
this correct?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
This is Lincoln Park, Lincoln What I've done? Yes, one
of the two Lincoln Park songs used for the end
of Transformers movies.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
So let's try to do Let's try to do the
dramatic Michael Bay Lincoln Park Transformer endings with some of
Jordan Schultz's tweets. Let's do it, all right, I'm gonna
go first, so first, Watzi's gonna go second. Hit it Sam.
Text from AFC exec just now Rable to New England
last year? Is Harbaugh to the Giants in twenty twenty six?
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Mark it down A plus higher.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Fuck no good, so dramatic, so good?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
A plus higher so good. What do you got?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
All right, let's go all right.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
The Giants are gonna strike a deal with John Harbaugh
that will pay him among the highest paid coaches in
NFL history.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Harbaugh will also get a significant budget for his staff.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
Giants were all in on making this happen, and now
it's happening.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
WHOA, I've gotta see this movie. I've gotta see Giants
twenty two twenty six, starring John Harbaugh. I have got
to see this. This is gonna be an amazing Yes,
I can't wait. Do you think Jordan Schultz was done?
Speaker 4 (37:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
No, No, three ways open. Yeah. You can take the exit.
You can take the exit ramp, and you just go
right back on the freeway if you want. No one's around.
It's just him and Schefter. So let's just keep on
saying the same stuff over and over. There's a lot
of credit going around the NFL tonight for the Giants
and their ownership going all out to fix the franchise
and get back to being a crown jewel organization. They've
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taken a beating over the last decade. John Harbaugh is
a big swing ownership wasn't afraid. They went all in.
Now they're getting him. Wow, so overly dramatic, so good
Transformers the Giants twenty twenty six. There's one more from
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Jordan Schultz. You want to do this, Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Let's do it right, all right now, all right?
Speaker 7 (37:58):
The Giants made a massive push tonight to land John Harball,
while competing teams have been informed.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Of his decision.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
Within the last hour, New York at Last has its
next head coach.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I've got chicken skin like I've got like I don't
know if you guys felt that going up your spine,
so dramatic, it really gets you. It does, Like, my goodness,
what is next?
Speaker 4 (38:28):
I think John Harball to the Giants.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Here's the other thing, the use of at Last at Last.
What They're going to hire a new coach in week twelve?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Right?
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Ten days? Ten days?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, the season has ended a week and a half ago.
They're the first one to make the higher It was
the problem, the most sensible pairing that we have gotten
or that were made during this coaching cycle. But within
the last hour, New York at Last.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, you would think it's like fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
And Alas Harbaugh's come along. But just so dramatic. Did
you hear this other one? This was a different NFL
insider which we expect Harbon Dart to be on the
same page as the Giants want to avoid the fiasco
that occurred when Brian Dable yelled at Torod Taylor at
the end of their game in Buffalo in twenty twenty four,
striking a chord with famous radio producer Jason Stewarts. So
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that was another one. Yeah, yeah, just another insider tweet.
She's Monsie, I'm Dan Byer, Sam Jason and Chris we
I'll be back tomorrow when I'm forty nine. We'll talk
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