April 15, 2026 • 38 mins
Stugotz and company welcome Emmy-award winning artist Zac Brown onto the show. NBA writer Tom Haberstroh joins the show to talk about the NBA's post-season. Plus, the guys wonder out loud which old NBA star can be a playoff breaker this year.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Zach Brown is a three time Granny winning singer, songwriter
and frontman of the multi platinum Zach Brown Band. He
has earned over ten awards with seventy seven over seventy
seven nominations throughout his career, including a Grammy for Best
New Artists in two thousand ten. And Zach Brown his band,
will headline the UFC Freedom two fifty Fan Fest on
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the Ellipse in Washington, d C on June thirteenth, the
day before the MMA promotion host It's Mega Events at
the White House.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
How'd you get involved with this?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Headlining the UFC Freedom to Fimpty fan fast and the
big MMA match at the White House?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How'd you get involved here? Man?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I heard this was happening and going down. I text
Dana and I said, man, I want to be a
part of this. Let me know what you need.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What can I do?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Can I be of service?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
He takes care of me anytime I want to go
to a fight. UFC is my favorite sport, all time
favorite sport. Avid MMA fan. I did judo in college
and then started understanding the mechanics of it, and then
thirty years of watching from early evening before UFC one,
you know, watching MMA, you know, from the beginning from
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King of the Cage too, and then following through Pride,
following through everything and watching the empire that you know,
Dana and everybody built with UFC and Rogan, which is
such an integral part of you know, engaging the fans
and explaining what's happening and what's going on. So it's
my favorite sport. I'm a huge patriot. I love this country.
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I love all the people. We have an incredible facility
we build here in Georgia called Camps Southern Ground. We
do thirty four weeks to sleep away programs for our veterans.
There my alignment. Every night that'll we play. We have
soldiers come up on.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Stage and do a salute during Chicken Fried.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
This is this is a chance to honor America and
the service people, to be able to be there and
to be able to be part of the UFC all
in one thing together for our Bosingtonians. So I am
super pumped to be a part of it. And I
told Dana I'll do whatever you need and whatever you want. However,
and so we're playing to show. They're gonna do the
weigh ins. They've got this incredible stage setup. I've seen
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the renderings of it, and then we're gonna play, and
then the next day we're going to do the anthem
you know, live and this this card is huge. I
think it's going to be streamed almost a billion homes internationally.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
It's a great flex there, Zach. Just being able to
text Dana and say, hey, could I be a part
of this? That's impressive there. But you said you had
such a long history of fandom with the UFC. Just
wondering who some of your favorites were in the past
and maybe some of your favorites currently still fighting. What
era I mean, well, I mean you can go back
to one UFC one, So whatever era you decide or
your favorites on conversation.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
The first fight that I remember was probably Keepatney against
Emmanuel Yarbro and it was like two and twenty five
pound like kin po karate guy against the six hundred
pounds sumo wrestlers. And this was back when it was
mainly single discipline, so you know, they were just bringing
you bring your best, you know, representative of martial arts
to the game.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
That was wild times.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
From that to watching all the you know, the Chemo
and and oys, Tracy and Dude early earlier days like that,
from guys like you know, Dan, Dan Severn and.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I've watched it all. I've seen it all.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I've followed it throughout eras you know, I mean watching
some of the great champions.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I always love seeing champion that can hold down a rain,
you know, multi year rainch as unpredictable in the sport
as it is. You know, from from Saint Pierre to Anderson.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Silva's probably in my mind one of the greatest champions
ever holding it down for seven years, you know, to
people like Mattthews, which was just the strength of that
dude super early on coming in, and then guys like
Carl Parisians early on was like a you know, the
first real Jodica that was really throwing people on their heads,
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you know, using that discipline, you know, I mean there's
so many eras of it too, you know, to Chuck
with Dell, to Randy Gature too.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I just think about the eras and the people, the
personalities that it had like coming along the way.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But I was there from the beginning, watching the evolution
of the athletes.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Watching the evolution of everyone training all the disciplines, watching
the UFC grow and form and continue to evolve, but
keep everything really pure U through they did such a
masterful job.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Of keeping the quality of the event.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
And then when other network started trying to compete and
bring things in and you see their commentators and you
see the way they talk about it or whatever, it
just reminded you of the bar the UFC. It said,
it was so hard to even get close to that.
So you know current fighters, I mean, man, there's something.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I mean. Gays he's one of my favorite all time explosive,
the way that he gets in. I mean he throws uppercuts.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
You don't even see him until they hit people, and
so choked. He's gonna be fighting. Bo Nichol is one
of my new favorite fighters. Getting to see Boat fight
on this car. You know, a lot of the dominance
of the incredible wrestlers, the people that come out of
wrestling world coming into UFC is is impressive to watch.
I'm really excited to watch Bo Nicchol, excited to see
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Seanmalley fight.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
There's I mean, I love it all. I watch every
early prelm. I watch all the free lambs. If I
go to an event, I'm sitting there, I'm there early.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I watch every single fight because I know there's people
I've been coming I haven't seen fight before, watching Peco
fight in this last I was there in Miami this
last Saturday.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I was there watching some of the I mean, they're
some of the memorial fights.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
That that hook it and blade fight is one I
will never forget. That's like one of the best ones
that I've ever seen live. That'd be such a character
and personality, and I think that kind of thing is
is is going to carry a lot away.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I feel like, honestly a star.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Was born that night with him, and I just I
love the evolution. Man.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
We talk to you for all the five minutes, we
can tell you're a certified die hard, like absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yes, yes, no doubt, go ahead, Tyler.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, let's a tough shot, man.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I love it, Zach.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
I'm also a massive baseball fan, and I love that
you got a part of the baseball season this year
with the the Sunday Night Song because yeah, well first
off a banger too. I appreciate the fact that NBC
is resting it up and making it feel like it's
just as big as Sunday Night Football. My question for
you as a Braves fan, what's your mount rushmore of
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your Braves favorite players, not the best players, but your
favorite players.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That is a great question.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yes, Al Murphy as a kid was one of my
favorites all time.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
That was back in like Dale Murphy, Bob Horner days,
Like I remember being.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
At a game where Bob Horner hit four home runs
in a game.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And then when when I was in high school, I
was a senior in high school when we had Glavin
and Maddox and Smolts and Avery and the domination in
the bullpen that we had that year.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And it was Bavy Justice and Terry Pendleton and all
of the people that I watched in different eras, same thing.
There's eras of it, right, I.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Mean going back to you know, Phil Nikro going back
to throwing the weirdest pitches ever thrown, Like it's it's
a it's a lifetime journey for me through through sports.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And then seeing them, you know, they gave me a
ring when when they won the same and I'm an honorary.
I have to be.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I have to be a Socks fan also just because
of Fenway, like Fenway is we owed all the records
for Fenway Park for selling it out. That's my city.
Also after Atlanta, So I got a ring when Boston
won the World Series, and I got a ring when
Atlanta won the World Series. And so I'm just like
I pinched myself at all the things that we get
to do and get to participate in because of the music.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
But I was a kid.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
When I was fourteen years old, I rode my bike
five miles five days a week to work at a
baseball car shop and the guy couldn't pay me in money,
so we had to pay me in cards.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So I've been collecting cards. And that was early days.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Like that was when Eric Davis and Don Mattingley and
Roger Clemens, and like those memories are forever seared because
because I'm I've held their faces in my hands on
baseball cards for you know, a decade that was back
like Jose Canseco. Yeah, and then you got like the
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fire eras, you got everything like.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Going all way through watching the evolution of baseball the
same way. It's kind of it's kind of similar to UFC.
But I love I love the sport man.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
There's nothing more American than baseball.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You have that damn Eric Davis Rookie card, don't you.
I'm wondering if any of the cards he paid you
in baseball cards did you save them?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Did any of them turn into something really valuable?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Eric Davis Rookie card. My brother conned me out.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
He was five years older than me, and I remember
my granddad bought it for me. Spent thirty bucks back
then to buy me the Eric Davis roockey card. And
he was bordering on the on the Alzheimer's spectrum, my granddad.
So I could take him out and he would buy
me cards. And my dad be like, you spend.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
One hundred dollars? What is this?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
And then my brother was five years older than me
and conned me out of all my good shit back then.
But these days, I you know, I'm able to get
the stuff that I that I want. And I've actually
I played I played Magic, like the card game. I
played that when I was in high school. I made
a living off of playing cards in high school and
I was balling in high school making money.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Playing that game.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
So that's translated into now like getting into one Piece lately,
Like there's a new game I'll cahol one Piece that
is crushing investment wise, but.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I'm still a collector man.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
And it's cool to be in this era right now
watching Otani doing what he's doing, I mean, the best
baseball player ever in the game. Being alive like being
able to watch that happen and go down the best pitcher,
the best hitter, Like it's cool to be alive in
moments like that when you see a generational you know,
talent like that and then things coming through.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I mean, there's isn't so many incredible players out there.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Speaking of cool moments to be alive, you probably had
some few pinch me moments in your career, like Chicken
Fried becoming such an anthem. How big of a deal
is it for you to have that song at the
begining of Sunday Night Baseball and just you know, it's
got to be one of those moments in your career,
just like That's pretty darn.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Cool, absolutely, man, and Major League Baseball has been such
a great.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Partner for us over the years, and we've played all there.
You know, a lot of the stadiums.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I love the baseball stadiums because they still feel intimate
even though it's a lot of people, and the sound
is good, the sounds coming kind of out of home
plate and out.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I love that that part of it.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I pinched myself every time that I get to go
out on stage. I never take that for granted. I
was just a kid playing in bars and hustling and
playing six hours a night for six nights a week
for ten years, trying to just.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Make it and let people know who I was.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
And then was able to be a people collector and
collect the right people to have around me to be
able to take it and to stay relevant. And I
got a lot of energy, and I put a lot
of hard work and discipline into my business, into my shows,
and into my family first. But it's incredible to have
the career that we've had and to be able to
just keep going. You know, want to be among I
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want to be like sprint seeing or like Willie. I
want to be somebody that's dedicated my life to doing this.
And in a world where we're in the middle of
you know, AI and a bunch of stuff like that,
people will always want to congregate and come together and
be reminded of our you know how, we're all the same,
and we're there to make memories.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
And to have fun and give me to give them
the best night possible.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
All my energy and times goes and to figure out
how to create that every time we come back.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
To your city in a different way.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
And my band is a testament the people around me
I've got. I've got one of the best bands in
the world. People are musicians that I have around me,
the crew, and everybody works hard, but they treat everybody
like gold.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And that's led by example.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
That's that's you can't you can't buy culture and momentum
and chemistry.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
You have to earn that. And we've done that and
we keep it going and we're hungry. Coort. You know,
I feel as good now as I've ever felt. I
take good care of myself. I try to I try
to stay fit, I try to stay active.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
And I try to stay dedicated to our fans, because
that's really the only people we owe anything to you
and have an opportunities like like make League Baseball or
getting able to being able to do they use our
song for the you know, Mark Madness for NCAA, get
to do the UFC event, getting to be on Survivors,
which I just did.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm on episode for the season fifty and Survivor.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Like these are all dreams come true for me, and
I've never taken for granted.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Zach, do you ever get nervous before a concert?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
No, I'm like interesting.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I'm like a fighter man, I'm like warmed up, I'm
ready to go. I get super excited. Like there's not
any part of me that that's like nerves or anything
like that. It doesn't, it doesn't affect me like that.
Like I'm I'm an athlete. I'm like ready to go, Like,
let's get on stage and get it done.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Zach, has anybody in the band ever tried to get
their name on the band.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Over Zach's dead body get out of here.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
But they trust me. You know, I've earned their trust
over a lot of years. We've been in a lot
of crossroads where we didn't know what we were gonna do.
But they trust me.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
They trust me to lead it, and then I trust
them to help me to be my orchestra to make
the exact thing that every song needs.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
To try to drive that emotion home on whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
And you know, the extraordinary people. I couldn't do anything
by myself. I'm pretty I'm pretty limited on it on
my own. But when my tribe around me is pretty
incredible what we're able to do. And that's just a
testament to the people that are around me.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You can only have one. Okay, you only have one
for the rest of time. Okay, you win another Grammy
or the Braves win the World Series.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Oh, I'd give it to the Braves.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You would, huh?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Okay, I take that Grammy, I would you know, I'm
assuming you're an Atlanta Hawks fan.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Correct, I'm assuming, yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
All right, So me and Taylor we are New York
Knicks fans, and I would like to make some sort
of bet with Zach Brown with the Knicks Hawks series
coming up here. Okay, you guys are gonna break our hearts,
but you might as well win something when you do it,
you know, right, Let's go.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
All right, So it's on us to come up with
the bet. Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I say, it's pretty easy. I say, if the Hawks win,
he comes back and brags on it for the show.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Okay, all right, So if the Hawks win, you come
back on the show and we'll listen. The floor is yours.
You just let me and Taylor have it for fifteen minutes. Okay,
whatever you want to say.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
How about that, you gotta wear that Hawks dirt.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, we do that, all right, we'll do that.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
We will wear listen, I will I'll wear Dominique Wilkins jersey.
I won't be embarrassed about it because he's one of
the greatest players I've ever seen. But that's a deal, right,
hawks win, you come back on, you make fun of
me and Taylor.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
We good, and I'll wear landing gear while you do it. Okay,
got it, You got it? All right?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
One more time, buddy, on the way out, when you
appreciet you're doing this. We have to run here. But
one more time on the way out, promote what it
is you're doing with Dana White with the UFC with
a big event at the White House.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, so we're playing FanFest for UFC for the Bars
Antennaial of America. It's the first sporting event that's been
held on the grounds of the White House.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
We're so excited to represent American represent all.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Of our service people to get out there and help
everybody have this an incredible night and being able to
be part of that historical event.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
This is American history at its finance and I love
the UFC and I love it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
It is a story of the American dream, but bringing
in every international you know, discipline and people and all
of that, and it's really a unifier around the world.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
This will be one of the.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Most highly broadcast events that's ever happened, and the only
event that's happened all along the White House. And we're
Zach brown Man. We're so honored to be part of this.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
All right, Zach, Well, yeah, we appreciate the time. Man.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
We really enjoyed this and we look forward to speaking
to you again once the Hawks beat the Knicks and four.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay, he's laughing at us. Thank you so much. Ben.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
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Speaker 6 (17:24):
We're joined now by one of my go tos for
NBA knowledge altogether. He is a Portland Trail Blazers Analytics
analytics insider at the moment. He also, more importantly to me,
hosts a podcast called Pack Your Knives, and he was
recently on an episode of Top Chef, which we're going
to get right to right at the top here with
Tom Haberstow. Tom, how you doing, Bud?
Speaker 8 (17:44):
I'm doing great. I can't wait to talk Top Chef.
I find it to be a sport, and that's why
we started this podcast. We cover it like it's the NBA.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
I don't know how anybody doesn't watch that show. I
absolutely love it. But I just want to start here.
Watching the s'mores off and the most an episode, it
just really hurt my teeth. Man, I felt terrible for
Tom Calichio.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
I think some'mores the most overrated dessert. It's it's tasteless.
It's dirty, like when you're out on a campfire and
your hands turned into glue because of the burnt marshmallow,
and then everything you touch is now dirty and sticky.
And the number one thing you need when you get
s'mores and you make smores is a wet towel and
how many people have a wet towel with him out
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on a campfire?
Speaker 9 (18:27):
It's I was, I was out.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
On that and Tom Klikio he must have I don't know,
he must have run like seventeen miles after that, trying
to burn off all that counts.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
You could tell he was putting on that fake smile.
He was like, man, this was a terrible idea because
it was painful to watch.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
A little bit.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
But I want to talk to you about the episode
you were on. You've been, you know, doing the pack
of your knives thing for a while now, but how
cool was that experience?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
What episode was that?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
And what'd you get to eat?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
All?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right?
Speaker 8 (18:52):
So this season is based in Charlotte, North Carolina, where
I live, and so it's been a huge passion project
of mine covering this show. And then a year ago
they asked me, Hey, would you like to be part
of Top Chef And we're trying to land Top Chef
to come to Charlotte as a hub city, and I
said absolutely. Wait a minute, hold on, Top Chef is
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coming to Charlotte.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
This is nuts.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
And so because they've been in South Carolina before, right,
they've done Charleston, South Carolina, but they hadn't done Charlotte,
and so they're splitting their time. Mostly is going to
be in Charlotte, and they're also going to do Greenville,
South Carolina, just south of here.
Speaker 9 (19:29):
But mostly in Charlotte.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
And so I got to go to the Southern Sides
episode where Tristan Epps, who won the last year's Top Chef,
was one of the guest judges. And I mean, this
is like a real pinch me moment, Like is he
You and I have covered NBA Finals games, We've covered
big time sports.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
This is totally different.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
Like I get more nervous and starstruck around Tom Colichio,
Gail Simmons, and Kristin Kish than I do around like
say Lebron or Steph So I was on that episode.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
I ate the food.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
And the funny thing is, and if you listen to
the podcast, you you've already heard this. The winning dish
I was inedible for us. So Seeger who won that
round had this pork belly that when he served the
judges was amazing. But the pork belly that he served
us at our table was not cooked. It was undercooked, inedible,
and I remember it I was like, man, that guy
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is gonna get roasted by the judges table. I can't
wait to see this because we want we attend it
in August and it doesn't air until March. So we're
sitting there waiting to see who wins the episode. And
I've never had this before where the winner of the
dish was my least favorite.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Dish, and so it is.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It was an amazing.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Wow Tom, between Top Chef, the Hornets and last season
of Love Is Blind, Charlotte's goind of have in a moment.
Charlotte's got a lot.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Yeah, Charlotte's got a lot and that is the tagline
of the city. So you've done your homework, Taylor. I wait,
and we're just gonna zip right past the Carolina Panthers.
We're just gonna the fact that they've come back into
the playoff field. Charlotte is having a moment, absolutely, And
I gotta say, Top Chef, we're halfway through the season
and I am not done being on the show.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Is he? Oh? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Wow? Radio Yeah, And you can't say anything about it.
I'm sure another thing. Crispy Pig ears not my thing.
I'm sorry, I don't I don't care how good you
tell me they are.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
Oh, so you've never had the ones that Michael Michael's Genuine, nop.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
Okay, Well, then your life hasn't been changed yet, So okay,
I'm sure you'd be out on Crispy Pigres too, unless
you have the ones at Michael's Genuine.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
If they call it something else, maybe, But all right,
let's talk about some sports that happened in Charlotte last night,
because you were there, curious what it was like in
the building, the response you know, amongst the reporters and
everything else after the game, to the Lamello tripping of
band Because Tom, I'm of the opinion, if you can
review it the next day and potentially punish LaMelo, why not.
(21:55):
Why can't you review it the next play?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Yeah, it's just all about the weird rules of the officiating.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
It's mind botteling.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
And Eric Spolster was very right to say that he
should have been ejected, that that was a dangerous play. Unfortunately,
the referees can't really do anything about it by the
letter of the law that unless a whistle is blown,
they can't go back and listen to.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
So Tom or if Eric s. Bolster sees that play
runs on the floor and gets a technical foul immediately,
can they then review it?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Yeah, approximately.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
As long as there's a the play hadn't progressed to
the point where they're at like a separate play, then
yes they could have reviewed that, which is something I
think the league is going to take a look at
because it it wasn't just any player. There's bam Autobio,
guy who scored eighty three points this season. I don't
know if you guys noticed that that really actually did happen.
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Wasn't a fever dream. And so when that guy is
ejected from the game, or not ejected, but I remember
looking over at pat Riley and a Lonzo Morning, who's
a god in Charlotte too. By the they were standing,
they look very concerned. And when I saw Alonza Morning
and pat Riley concerned seeing bam auDA by a writhing
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on the floor, I knew it was bad because if
that guy's hurt at you know that he's going to
try to keep playing place to every In fact, he
never emerged from the locker room.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
It was really sad.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Yeah, I want to let Taylor ask this, but because
I'm intrigued by your answer, on this Kobe White, but
it's his guys. I'm gonna let Taylor ask his Kobe
White question.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I don't know what my Kobe was.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
He basically wanted to know in terms of how many
teams could have gotten Kobe, Like, was it one of
those situations where nobody really knew what he was? What
is this situation where the Charlotte the Hornets were just
on top of it and really wanted him because he
seems like a piece that anybody could have utilized.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
Yeah, I think no one really sent in their offers
for him, or at least I can't imagine why the
Charlotte Hornets got him for basically nothing. And I had
this in my fantasy baseball league this past week, and
no one needs to hear about my fantasy baseball league.
But I made an offer and it got accepted. I
never thought it would get accepted. And when the league
was so mad, and the guy who took the deal said,
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no one else offered me. So if you're mad, then
you should have offered for that for that guy.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
And that's how I feel about Kobe White.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
The weird thing is about Kobe White is in the
Charlotte Arena last night, they were.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
Chanting Kobe Kobe.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
And in Charlotte that has a totally different meeting because
they drafted Kobe Bryant and then traded him famously for
Vlade Divats. And I actually saw a kid who did
one of those in the middle of the time out,
little games whatever. He was wearing a eight number eight
jersey Charlotte Hornets with the name on the back Bryant,
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and I was like, Wow, that kid, he's like eight
years old. That was that was a deep cut for
him to get that customize Kobe Bryant jersey. But it
was very odd hearing Hornets fans chant for Kobe. But
in that moment, man, I still can't believe that they
were able to get him for the low price that
they did in that trade. And I think Kobe White
is perfect for LaMelo ball, different different kind of game
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to him. But when he was off the floor against
the Boston Celtics lamel ball was a couple of weeks ago,
they couldn't score and the reason was because Kobe White
didn't play in that game. And so I kept telling people, Hey,
it's one game that the Hornets did not play well
against the Celtics On National TV. But I will tell
you this, it's not over Friday night against either the
Philadelphia seventy six ers or the Orlando Magic. Charlotte Hornets
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fans are so excited after that game last night, and
rightfully so, but this playing tournament, it's not over till
it's over. They gotta win on Friday in order for
them to punch their take into the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Tom, do you think Kobe White's on the mount rushmore
of the play in tournament?
Speaker 8 (25:36):
I think i'd be, he actually said last night. He
told Miles Bridges, He's like, I think I've lost the
Miami Heat four times in the play in tournament.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
You know, like think about that that.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Not only has he been in the play on tournament
so many times, but he's lost to one specific team.
So Kobe White's got to be in that tournament. Who
else would be in the Panta Davion Mitchell.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Davion Mitchell needs to be in the play because, I
mean's last two years alone, he's had spectacular games.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
Oh he's so good.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
He's such a perfect Miami Heat player. By the way,
think about the Sacramento Kings. They had Tyrese Haliburt and
Darren Fox and Davey on Mitchell and now look at
the Sacramento Kings.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
Go Pilfer from the Sacramento Kings. From henceforth.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Well, we're talking to Tom Haverstow here, and amongst the
many things that he does, he's Portland Trailblazers analytics insider.
It's always jarring when I see you come on to
the Portland broadcast. I'm like, wait a second, you don't
live out there. You're just popping up on my screen.
But it's really cool to see you there. I want
to talk to you about Denny Advia because my favorite
stat about him is he just wasted his four years
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with the Wizards. Like the first four years is a
complete waste. He played his third year with the Wizards,
or fourth year with the Wizards, played the exact same
number of minutes or average, exact same number of minutes
as Jordan Pool. Okay, but somehow Jordan Poole, a forty
one percent shooter, shot fifteen point two times a gay
and Advia, a fifty one percent shooter, only shot ten
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point seven times per game. And it's just like, what
were the Wizards doing with him? Why were they giving
Jordan Poole more responsibility, But give me the story of
Denny here, because he's emerging. He has emerged all year long.
It's a great player, and it still feels like nobody
knows him.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
Yeah, he's making fourteen million dollars this year, thirteen million
next year, and eleven next year. To put that in perspective,
those three years combined is less than half of what
some NBA players make. So Denny Abdi is playing at
an all NBA level with a descending contract.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
Which is very rare.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
And the Washington Wizards basically they didn't giveaway for free.
It was two first round picks. But Denny Abdia is
a revelation and he came to Portland last year kind
of had a rough start with the Blazers, and then
halfway through the season he took off and turned into
Luca doncs Lebron James, averaging twenty five, six and six,
and he's been that way this entire season. He leads
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the NBA in and ones, a category that usually means
you're a first team All NBA guy. He also leads
the league in drives drive assists. He's the full full
compliment of a player and he last night he had
thirty points, sorry, forty one points and then thirty assist points,
so meaning his twelve assists led to thirty points combined
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seventy one points from Danny Abdia's creation in that play
in game.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
So he's fantastic.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
He's a guy that they call turbo because he can't
he's so fast in the open court. And on the broadcast,
we've run out of things to say about him because
he's been that good for so long. It's it's we're
trying to let the audience know how rare it is
in the NBA to have a guy come out of
nowhere and become an all NBA talent.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
And that's the Danni Abdya story.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Well, I would say their first round opponent probably gonna
have a lot of eyes on them, right because they're
playing against the Spurs. What are we gonna Are we
gonna see him break out here? Does it seem like
they have any sort of a shot against Vic and
the Spurs.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Well, I just wrote a story for Yahoo Sports saying
that the Spurs might win this entire NBA playoffs, they
might win the championship this year, And I would I
would say it's a much better odds of them winning
it than what you're seeing on the sports books and
odds makers outside of Vegas, wherever you'd see these odds.
The Spurs are ready. The NBA playoff experience is overrated.
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And I don't know if Stu Gott's is listening on
his trip.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Up to Chicago. He's busy boots on the ground.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
We kind of like talk about playoff experience that you
have to like go through the NBA grind, the playoff grind,
in order to be considered seriously.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
We just watched a.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Team, basically a bunch of college kids win the NBA
Championship with the Oklahoma City Thunder and they beat a
young Indiana Pacers team that barely had a playoff run
the year before. And so when you look at the
San Antonio Spurs, it just seems like we should treat
this sixty two win team with a little bit more respect.
With Wemby and with all the injuries that happened in
the postseason, we're getting a lot of variants. Weird stuff
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is happening in the postseason, and I think the San
Antonio Spurs is a tough draw for the Blazers. They
haven't actually played Wemby this year. Wenby has missed all
three games against the Blazers this season. So the Denny
Avdya Wemby matchup is gonna be fascinating because Denny loves
getting downhill and drawing contact and finishing at the rim.
And that's exactly what Wemby does extremely well, is bottling
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up paint and protecting the rim. It's kind of like
rocks paper scissors, where you got Turbo. He's the rock,
he's the wrecking ball coming in and Wemby is the paper.
And I think like Wemby is just he's so big
out there. He's one of the best rum protectors we've
ever seen. And I'm worried that Denny Abdya's superpower is
just gonna be just it's gonna run up against the
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Wemby machine. And so it's a tough draw for anybody,
but especially someone who gets to the cup as much
as Danny does.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
That was so skillful. I have never heard somebody do
the paper beats rock analogy well, and that is absolutely
perfect with Victor Webbin Yama and Danny Advia. Congratulations Tom,
that was amazing. Since you said the Spurs are going
to win it, and we'll just get you out of
here on this. It feels like that fourteen to fifteen
the first Warriors championship, where you know, brand new coach,
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a bunch of new players and for the new players
and still won the championship even though they had some
playoff experience. If it's Spurs Nuggets in the Western Conference,
at some point, given what we've seen in the regular season,
you're still feeling that confident about the Spurs.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
I am, I am, that's how good the Spurs are.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
And Wemby, when he's on the floor, he makes the
largest impact.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
In the NBA.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
And he's a guy that played twenty eight minutes per
game in the regular season because I think they're just
saving him for the postseason. So imagine how good they
are sixty two win season when they're getting only twenty
eight minutes a game from Wemby. So if that goes
to thirty five minutes. With the permittent impact that you
see on both ends of the floor and the spacing,
the gravity, everything that he brings, he shrinks the floor
defensively and expands it offensively, You're going to see a
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guy that I think has a really good chance at
winning it all in his first playoff Ruim.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Tom, I'm going into this postseason as a Knicks fan,
a little nervous, and I count on you as the
analytics guy. What's the best thing you could tell me
about this Knicks team going into the playoffs to make
me feel a little bit better.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Well, I think the Pistons in the same way that
the Spurs are green. I don't feel like they're really proven,
so to speak. And so if you're the next I
think the best argument is who else is going to
be it? Who else is going to win the East?
And I think that's the best thing I can say
about the next Star. Sorry, Taylor, I know you wanted more,
but that's about id all I can do.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
You can read them on Yahoo's Sports. You can listen
to them, unpack your knives. You can watch him well
you could have watched him this season as Portland's analytics insider.
Tom Haberstrow, thanks so much for the inside man. You're
always great.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
You got anytime.
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Stu Gotts and Hawkman. A couple minutes left here with
Stu Gotts out trying to get to the bottom of
the Chicago Bulls situation with Billy Donovan. Taylor has a
baseball stat he wants to tell me, But first I
want to ask you a question. Taylor. We've got the
play in in the Western Conference, a nine to ten
matchup tonight. That's Steph Curry and the Warriors versus Kawhi
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Leonard and the Clippers. And I'm just curious what sort
of the opinion is from the outside looking in, maybe
the non you know, crazy basketball fans, Which one of
those two guys would you consider being able to still
sort of wreck a playoff bracket? Which one of those
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two guys, Steph Curry or Kawhi Leonard obviously current day,
would be able to either make some noise and potentially
even upset the Oklahoma City Thunder and then just put
the fear of God into everybody else that's in the playoffs.
We've seen them both do it individually with different teams.
But right now, which one of those two do you
think would be more ready to do.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
So my mind is saying Kawhi Leonard just because when
he's healthy, he's a top five basketball player, top five
basketball talent in the world. But my heart wants to
say Seph Curry just because it feels more attainable that
Steph could just get hot from three.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Well, it's so it's just a perfect way to look
at it, right like you're saying, because we've actually seen
Kawhi Leonard wreck a Steph Curry team. Now, granted it
was Game one of a playoff series, and then who
knows what would have happened after that if he didn't
turn his ankle and would have stayed in. Maybe the
Warriors recover, maybe they go still on to win that
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first championship with KD. But it was looking pretty Bleak
there he was absolutely tearing up the Warriors before you know,
famously ja Ja Paculia accidentally slid under his foot and
hurt him there and so, and then you've seen it
with Toronto, with the cast around him that you would
say easily is weaker than the cast that was around
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Steph Curry for his first three championships. Now that fourth one,
maybe twenty twenty two, maybe you could argue Steph had
a weaker supporting cast. But you also throw in the
fact that Kawhi could wreck a team defensively, right, So
if it's Okase, your first goal against them isn't necessarily
to outscore them, it's to shut down shake Gil just Alexander,
(35:32):
you cut off the head of the snake, you more
than likely have a pretty decent chance at beating them.
So I want to say Kawhi Leonard two, But man,
Steph Curry has done so much to just absolutely separate
his team from a game, and when he and Draymond
are in rhythm, it's it's scary to play against. And
so I don't know who to pick.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Both these two teams feel like me when I'm scrolling
on TikTok where I'm thirty two years old. In my mind,
I'm not that old. But when I get on TikTok,
everybody's like, oh, look at Unk over here, get on
Caddy here, I'm like, WHOA, what's going on? That's how
I kind of feel when I look at Kawhi Leonard
and Steph Curry, I'm like, let's let the young guys
take over.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Now.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
You both are gonna get out of the playoffs very soon,
so let's just get it over.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
But if there was an unk who could go ahead
and still provide some fun, Like, this is why I'm
gonna say Steph Curry is probably the guy who can
do it, but the guy that I would want to do,
it's just more fun to watch. Like when you're watching Kawhi,
it's just like that dude is an absolute killer, like
you just bowed down. There's nothing you can say about it.
But when you're watching Steph, like, it's an entirely different feeling.
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And when he himself is just absolutely just demoralizing an opponent,
it just it feels entirely different. But go ahead, give
you this baseball stat line before we get out of here.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
So Lehigh Baseball yesterday set a Division one record by
scoring twenty runs in the first inning of a thirty
eight to six win over Copen State. If I tell
you a team scores twenty runs, how many hits would
you assume they got in that first inning?
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Ooh, alright, so I mean you gotta get a fuple
of it. I would say at least double figures. Let's
just say comfortably, I'll say twelve.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Lehigh scored twenty runs in the top of the first
on just three hits, with eleven walks and six batters
hit by a pitch. Jesus, just a disaster.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Was there a pitching change in there or did they
let one wild pitcher just have a day?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
So the first three pitchers combined for one out and
nineteen earned runs. That's a five hundred and thirteen era
maybe the most preposterous stat line I've ever seen. Lehigh's
third baseman, senior Aiden Quinn. He finished zero for one
with seven walks in this article. So they go down
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twenty runs in the first inning. This article says Copingstate
did manage to trim a run back in the bottom
of the inning to trail twenty to one through the.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
First Taylor, this is the team we need to play
to get a win with our softball team, just let
them walk us all around the bases. We are just
stretch and win a game. This is absolutely perfect. Still
got to be back tomorrow, I think,
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Very excited for this.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Zach Brown is a three time Granny winning singer, songwriter
and frontman of the multi platinum Zach Brown Band. He
has earned over ten awards with seventy seven over seventy
seven nominations throughout his career, including a Grammy for Best
New Artists in two thousand ten. And Zach Brown his band,
will headline the UFC Freedom two fifty Fan Fest on
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the Ellipse in Washington, d C on June thirteenth, the
day before the MMA promotion host It's Mega Events at
the White House.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
How'd you get involved with this?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Headlining the UFC Freedom to Fimpty fan fast and the
big MMA match at the White House?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How'd you get involved here? Man?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I heard this was happening and going down. I text
Dana and I said, man, I want to be a
part of this. Let me know what you need.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What can I do?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Can I be of service?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
He takes care of me anytime I want to go
to a fight. UFC is my favorite sport, all time
favorite sport. Avid MMA fan. I did judo in college
and then started understanding the mechanics of it, and then
thirty years of watching from early evening before UFC one,
you know, watching MMA, you know, from the beginning from
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King of the Cage too, and then following through Pride,
following through everything and watching the empire that you know,
Dana and everybody built with UFC and Rogan, which is
such an integral part of you know, engaging the fans
and explaining what's happening and what's going on. So it's
my favorite sport. I'm a huge patriot. I love this country.
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I love all the people. We have an incredible facility
we build here in Georgia called Camps Southern Ground. We
do thirty four weeks to sleep away programs for our veterans.
There my alignment. Every night that'll we play. We have
soldiers come up on.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Stage and do a salute during Chicken Fried.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
This is this is a chance to honor America and
the service people, to be able to be there and
to be able to be part of the UFC all
in one thing together for our Bosingtonians. So I am
super pumped to be a part of it. And I
told Dana I'll do whatever you need and whatever you want. However,
and so we're playing to show. They're gonna do the
weigh ins. They've got this incredible stage setup. I've seen
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the renderings of it, and then we're gonna play, and
then the next day we're going to do the anthem
you know, live and this this card is huge. I
think it's going to be streamed almost a billion homes internationally.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
It's a great flex there, Zach. Just being able to
text Dana and say, hey, could I be a part
of this? That's impressive there. But you said you had
such a long history of fandom with the UFC. Just
wondering who some of your favorites were in the past
and maybe some of your favorites currently still fighting. What
era I mean, well, I mean you can go back
to one UFC one, So whatever era you decide or
your favorites on conversation.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
The first fight that I remember was probably Keepatney against
Emmanuel Yarbro and it was like two and twenty five
pound like kin po karate guy against the six hundred
pounds sumo wrestlers. And this was back when it was
mainly single discipline, so you know, they were just bringing
you bring your best, you know, representative of martial arts
to the game.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
That was wild times.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
From that to watching all the you know, the Chemo
and and oys, Tracy and Dude early earlier days like that,
from guys like you know, Dan, Dan Severn and.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I've watched it all. I've seen it all.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I've followed it throughout eras you know, I mean watching
some of the great champions.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I always love seeing champion that can hold down a rain,
you know, multi year rainch as unpredictable in the sport
as it is. You know, from from Saint Pierre to Anderson.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Silva's probably in my mind one of the greatest champions
ever holding it down for seven years, you know, to
people like Mattthews, which was just the strength of that
dude super early on coming in, and then guys like
Carl Parisians early on was like a you know, the
first real Jodica that was really throwing people on their heads,
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you know, using that discipline, you know, I mean there's
so many eras of it too, you know, to Chuck
with Dell, to Randy Gature too.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I just think about the eras and the people, the
personalities that it had like coming along the way.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But I was there from the beginning, watching the evolution
of the athletes.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Watching the evolution of everyone training all the disciplines, watching
the UFC grow and form and continue to evolve, but
keep everything really pure U through they did such a
masterful job.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Of keeping the quality of the event.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
And then when other network started trying to compete and
bring things in and you see their commentators and you
see the way they talk about it or whatever, it
just reminded you of the bar the UFC. It said,
it was so hard to even get close to that.
So you know current fighters, I mean, man, there's something.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I mean. Gays he's one of my favorite all time explosive,
the way that he gets in. I mean he throws uppercuts.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
You don't even see him until they hit people, and
so choked. He's gonna be fighting. Bo Nichol is one
of my new favorite fighters. Getting to see Boat fight
on this car. You know, a lot of the dominance
of the incredible wrestlers, the people that come out of
wrestling world coming into UFC is is impressive to watch.
I'm really excited to watch Bo Nicchol, excited to see
(05:50):
Seanmalley fight.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
There's I mean, I love it all. I watch every
early prelm. I watch all the free lambs. If I
go to an event, I'm sitting there, I'm there early.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I watch every single fight because I know there's people
I've been coming I haven't seen fight before, watching Peco
fight in this last I was there in Miami this
last Saturday.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I was there watching some of the I mean, they're
some of the memorial fights.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
That that hook it and blade fight is one I
will never forget. That's like one of the best ones
that I've ever seen live. That'd be such a character
and personality, and I think that kind of thing is
is is going to carry a lot away.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I feel like, honestly a star.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Was born that night with him, and I just I
love the evolution. Man.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
We talk to you for all the five minutes, we
can tell you're a certified die hard, like absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yes, yes, no doubt, go ahead, Tyler.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, let's a tough shot, man.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I love it, Zach.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
I'm also a massive baseball fan, and I love that
you got a part of the baseball season this year
with the the Sunday Night Song because yeah, well first
off a banger too. I appreciate the fact that NBC
is resting it up and making it feel like it's
just as big as Sunday Night Football. My question for
you as a Braves fan, what's your mount rushmore of
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your Braves favorite players, not the best players, but your
favorite players.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That is a great question.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yes, Al Murphy as a kid was one of my
favorites all time.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
That was back in like Dale Murphy, Bob Horner days,
Like I remember being.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
At a game where Bob Horner hit four home runs
in a game.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And then when when I was in high school, I
was a senior in high school when we had Glavin
and Maddox and Smolts and Avery and the domination in
the bullpen that we had that year.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And it was Bavy Justice and Terry Pendleton and all
of the people that I watched in different eras, same thing.
There's eras of it, right, I.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Mean going back to you know, Phil Nikro going back
to throwing the weirdest pitches ever thrown, Like it's it's
a it's a lifetime journey for me through through sports.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And then seeing them, you know, they gave me a
ring when when they won the same and I'm an honorary.
I have to be.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I have to be a Socks fan also just because
of Fenway, like Fenway is we owed all the records
for Fenway Park for selling it out. That's my city.
Also after Atlanta, So I got a ring when Boston
won the World Series, and I got a ring when
Atlanta won the World Series. And so I'm just like
I pinched myself at all the things that we get
to do and get to participate in because of the music.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
But I was a kid.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
When I was fourteen years old, I rode my bike
five miles five days a week to work at a
baseball car shop and the guy couldn't pay me in money,
so we had to pay me in cards.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So I've been collecting cards. And that was early days.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Like that was when Eric Davis and Don Mattingley and
Roger Clemens, and like those memories are forever seared because
because I'm I've held their faces in my hands on
baseball cards for you know, a decade that was back
like Jose Canseco. Yeah, and then you got like the
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fire eras, you got everything like.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Going all way through watching the evolution of baseball the
same way. It's kind of it's kind of similar to UFC.
But I love I love the sport man.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
There's nothing more American than baseball.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You have that damn Eric Davis Rookie card, don't you.
I'm wondering if any of the cards he paid you
in baseball cards did you save them?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Did any of them turn into something really valuable?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Eric Davis Rookie card. My brother conned me out.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
He was five years older than me, and I remember
my granddad bought it for me. Spent thirty bucks back
then to buy me the Eric Davis roockey card. And
he was bordering on the on the Alzheimer's spectrum, my granddad.
So I could take him out and he would buy
me cards. And my dad be like, you spend.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
One hundred dollars? What is this?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
And then my brother was five years older than me
and conned me out of all my good shit back then.
But these days, I you know, I'm able to get
the stuff that I that I want. And I've actually
I played I played Magic, like the card game. I
played that when I was in high school. I made
a living off of playing cards in high school and
I was balling in high school making money.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Playing that game.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
So that's translated into now like getting into one Piece lately,
Like there's a new game I'll cahol one Piece that
is crushing investment wise, but.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I'm still a collector man.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
And it's cool to be in this era right now
watching Otani doing what he's doing, I mean, the best
baseball player ever in the game. Being alive like being
able to watch that happen and go down the best pitcher,
the best hitter, Like it's cool to be alive in
moments like that when you see a generational you know,
talent like that and then things coming through.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I mean, there's isn't so many incredible players out there.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Speaking of cool moments to be alive, you probably had
some few pinch me moments in your career, like Chicken
Fried becoming such an anthem. How big of a deal
is it for you to have that song at the
begining of Sunday Night Baseball and just you know, it's
got to be one of those moments in your career,
just like That's pretty darn.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Cool, absolutely, man, and Major League Baseball has been such
a great.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Partner for us over the years, and we've played all there.
You know, a lot of the stadiums.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I love the baseball stadiums because they still feel intimate
even though it's a lot of people, and the sound
is good, the sounds coming kind of out of home
plate and out.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I love that that part of it.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I pinched myself every time that I get to go
out on stage. I never take that for granted. I
was just a kid playing in bars and hustling and
playing six hours a night for six nights a week
for ten years, trying to just.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Make it and let people know who I was.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
And then was able to be a people collector and
collect the right people to have around me to be
able to take it and to stay relevant. And I
got a lot of energy, and I put a lot
of hard work and discipline into my business, into my shows,
and into my family first. But it's incredible to have
the career that we've had and to be able to
just keep going. You know, want to be among I
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want to be like sprint seeing or like Willie. I
want to be somebody that's dedicated my life to doing this.
And in a world where we're in the middle of
you know, AI and a bunch of stuff like that,
people will always want to congregate and come together and
be reminded of our you know how, we're all the same,
and we're there to make memories.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
And to have fun and give me to give them
the best night possible.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
All my energy and times goes and to figure out
how to create that every time we come back.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
To your city in a different way.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
And my band is a testament the people around me
I've got. I've got one of the best bands in
the world. People are musicians that I have around me,
the crew, and everybody works hard, but they treat everybody
like gold.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And that's led by example.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
That's that's you can't you can't buy culture and momentum
and chemistry.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
You have to earn that. And we've done that and
we keep it going and we're hungry. Coort. You know,
I feel as good now as I've ever felt. I
take good care of myself. I try to I try
to stay fit, I try to stay active.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
And I try to stay dedicated to our fans, because
that's really the only people we owe anything to you
and have an opportunities like like make League Baseball or
getting able to being able to do they use our
song for the you know, Mark Madness for NCAA, get
to do the UFC event, getting to be on Survivors,
which I just did.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm on episode for the season fifty and Survivor.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Like these are all dreams come true for me, and
I've never taken for granted.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Zach, do you ever get nervous before a concert?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
No, I'm like interesting.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I'm like a fighter man, I'm like warmed up, I'm
ready to go. I get super excited. Like there's not
any part of me that that's like nerves or anything
like that. It doesn't, it doesn't affect me like that.
Like I'm I'm an athlete. I'm like ready to go, Like,
let's get on stage and get it done.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Zach, has anybody in the band ever tried to get
their name on the band.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Over Zach's dead body get out of here.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
But they trust me. You know, I've earned their trust
over a lot of years. We've been in a lot
of crossroads where we didn't know what we were gonna do.
But they trust me.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
They trust me to lead it, and then I trust
them to help me to be my orchestra to make
the exact thing that every song needs.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
To try to drive that emotion home on whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
And you know, the extraordinary people. I couldn't do anything
by myself. I'm pretty I'm pretty limited on it on
my own. But when my tribe around me is pretty
incredible what we're able to do. And that's just a
testament to the people that are around me.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You can only have one. Okay, you only have one
for the rest of time. Okay, you win another Grammy
or the Braves win the World Series.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Oh, I'd give it to the Braves.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You would, huh?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Okay, I take that Grammy, I would you know, I'm
assuming you're an Atlanta Hawks fan.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Correct, I'm assuming, yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
All right, So me and Taylor we are New York
Knicks fans, and I would like to make some sort
of bet with Zach Brown with the Knicks Hawks series
coming up here. Okay, you guys are gonna break our hearts,
but you might as well win something when you do it,
you know, right, Let's go.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
All right, So it's on us to come up with
the bet. Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I say, it's pretty easy. I say, if the Hawks win,
he comes back and brags on it for the show.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Okay, all right, So if the Hawks win, you come
back on the show and we'll listen. The floor is yours.
You just let me and Taylor have it for fifteen minutes. Okay,
whatever you want to say.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
How about that, you gotta wear that Hawks dirt.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, we do that, all right, we'll do that.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
We will wear listen, I will I'll wear Dominique Wilkins jersey.
I won't be embarrassed about it because he's one of
the greatest players I've ever seen. But that's a deal, right,
hawks win, you come back on, you make fun of
me and Taylor.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
We good, and I'll wear landing gear while you do it. Okay,
got it, You got it? All right?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
One more time, buddy, on the way out, when you
appreciet you're doing this. We have to run here. But
one more time on the way out, promote what it
is you're doing with Dana White with the UFC with
a big event at the White House.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, so we're playing FanFest for UFC for the Bars
Antennaial of America. It's the first sporting event that's been
held on the grounds of the White House.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
We're so excited to represent American represent all.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Of our service people to get out there and help
everybody have this an incredible night and being able to
be part of that historical event.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
This is American history at its finance and I love
the UFC and I love it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
It is a story of the American dream, but bringing
in every international you know, discipline and people and all
of that, and it's really a unifier around the world.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
This will be one of the.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Most highly broadcast events that's ever happened, and the only
event that's happened all along the White House. And we're
Zach brown Man. We're so honored to be part of this.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
All right, Zach, Well, yeah, we appreciate the time. Man.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
We really enjoyed this and we look forward to speaking
to you again once the Hawks beat the Knicks and four.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay, he's laughing at us. Thank you so much. Ben.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company
Live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
We're joined now by one of my go tos for
NBA knowledge altogether. He is a Portland Trail Blazers Analytics
analytics insider at the moment. He also, more importantly to me,
hosts a podcast called Pack Your Knives, and he was
recently on an episode of Top Chef, which we're going
to get right to right at the top here with
Tom Haberstow. Tom, how you doing, Bud?
Speaker 8 (17:44):
I'm doing great. I can't wait to talk Top Chef.
I find it to be a sport, and that's why
we started this podcast. We cover it like it's the NBA.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
I don't know how anybody doesn't watch that show. I
absolutely love it. But I just want to start here.
Watching the s'mores off and the most an episode, it
just really hurt my teeth. Man, I felt terrible for
Tom Calichio.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
I think some'mores the most overrated dessert. It's it's tasteless.
It's dirty, like when you're out on a campfire and
your hands turned into glue because of the burnt marshmallow,
and then everything you touch is now dirty and sticky.
And the number one thing you need when you get
s'mores and you make smores is a wet towel and
how many people have a wet towel with him out
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on a campfire?
Speaker 9 (18:27):
It's I was, I was out.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
On that and Tom Klikio he must have I don't know,
he must have run like seventeen miles after that, trying
to burn off all that counts.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
You could tell he was putting on that fake smile.
He was like, man, this was a terrible idea because
it was painful to watch.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
A little bit.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
But I want to talk to you about the episode
you were on. You've been, you know, doing the pack
of your knives thing for a while now, but how
cool was that experience?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
What episode was that?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
And what'd you get to eat?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
All?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right?
Speaker 8 (18:52):
So this season is based in Charlotte, North Carolina, where
I live, and so it's been a huge passion project
of mine covering this show. And then a year ago
they asked me, Hey, would you like to be part
of Top Chef And we're trying to land Top Chef
to come to Charlotte as a hub city, and I
said absolutely. Wait a minute, hold on, Top Chef is
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coming to Charlotte.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
This is nuts.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
And so because they've been in South Carolina before, right,
they've done Charleston, South Carolina, but they hadn't done Charlotte,
and so they're splitting their time. Mostly is going to
be in Charlotte, and they're also going to do Greenville,
South Carolina, just south of here.
Speaker 9 (19:29):
But mostly in Charlotte.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
And so I got to go to the Southern Sides
episode where Tristan Epps, who won the last year's Top Chef,
was one of the guest judges. And I mean, this
is like a real pinch me moment, Like is he
You and I have covered NBA Finals games, We've covered
big time sports.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
This is totally different.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
Like I get more nervous and starstruck around Tom Colichio,
Gail Simmons, and Kristin Kish than I do around like
say Lebron or Steph So I was on that episode.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
I ate the food.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
And the funny thing is, and if you listen to
the podcast, you you've already heard this. The winning dish
I was inedible for us. So Seeger who won that
round had this pork belly that when he served the
judges was amazing. But the pork belly that he served
us at our table was not cooked. It was undercooked, inedible,
and I remember it I was like, man, that guy
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is gonna get roasted by the judges table. I can't
wait to see this because we want we attend it
in August and it doesn't air until March. So we're
sitting there waiting to see who wins the episode. And
I've never had this before where the winner of the
dish was my least favorite.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Dish, and so it is.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It was an amazing.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Wow Tom, between Top Chef, the Hornets and last season
of Love Is Blind, Charlotte's goind of have in a moment.
Charlotte's got a lot.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Yeah, Charlotte's got a lot and that is the tagline
of the city. So you've done your homework, Taylor. I wait,
and we're just gonna zip right past the Carolina Panthers.
We're just gonna the fact that they've come back into
the playoff field. Charlotte is having a moment, absolutely, And
I gotta say, Top Chef, we're halfway through the season
and I am not done being on the show.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Is he? Oh? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Wow? Radio Yeah, And you can't say anything about it.
I'm sure another thing. Crispy Pig ears not my thing.
I'm sorry, I don't I don't care how good you
tell me they are.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
Oh, so you've never had the ones that Michael Michael's Genuine, nop.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
Okay, Well, then your life hasn't been changed yet, So okay,
I'm sure you'd be out on Crispy Pigres too, unless
you have the ones at Michael's Genuine.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
If they call it something else, maybe, But all right,
let's talk about some sports that happened in Charlotte last night,
because you were there, curious what it was like in
the building, the response you know, amongst the reporters and
everything else after the game, to the Lamello tripping of
band Because Tom, I'm of the opinion, if you can
review it the next day and potentially punish LaMelo, why not.
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Why can't you review it the next play?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Yeah, it's just all about the weird rules of the officiating.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
It's mind botteling.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
And Eric Spolster was very right to say that he
should have been ejected, that that was a dangerous play. Unfortunately,
the referees can't really do anything about it by the
letter of the law that unless a whistle is blown,
they can't go back and listen to.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
So Tom or if Eric s. Bolster sees that play
runs on the floor and gets a technical foul immediately,
can they then review it?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Yeah, approximately.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
As long as there's a the play hadn't progressed to
the point where they're at like a separate play, then
yes they could have reviewed that, which is something I
think the league is going to take a look at
because it it wasn't just any player. There's bam Autobio,
guy who scored eighty three points this season. I don't
know if you guys noticed that that really actually did happen.
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Wasn't a fever dream. And so when that guy is
ejected from the game, or not ejected, but I remember
looking over at pat Riley and a Lonzo Morning, who's
a god in Charlotte too. By the they were standing,
they look very concerned. And when I saw Alonza Morning
and pat Riley concerned seeing bam auDA by a writhing
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on the floor, I knew it was bad because if
that guy's hurt at you know that he's going to
try to keep playing place to every In fact, he
never emerged from the locker room.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
It was really sad.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Yeah, I want to let Taylor ask this, but because
I'm intrigued by your answer, on this Kobe White, but
it's his guys. I'm gonna let Taylor ask his Kobe
White question.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I don't know what my Kobe was.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
He basically wanted to know in terms of how many
teams could have gotten Kobe, Like, was it one of
those situations where nobody really knew what he was? What
is this situation where the Charlotte the Hornets were just
on top of it and really wanted him because he
seems like a piece that anybody could have utilized.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
Yeah, I think no one really sent in their offers
for him, or at least I can't imagine why the
Charlotte Hornets got him for basically nothing. And I had
this in my fantasy baseball league this past week, and
no one needs to hear about my fantasy baseball league.
But I made an offer and it got accepted. I
never thought it would get accepted. And when the league
was so mad, and the guy who took the deal said,
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no one else offered me. So if you're mad, then
you should have offered for that for that guy.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
And that's how I feel about Kobe White.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
The weird thing is about Kobe White is in the
Charlotte Arena last night, they were.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
Chanting Kobe Kobe.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
And in Charlotte that has a totally different meeting because
they drafted Kobe Bryant and then traded him famously for
Vlade Divats. And I actually saw a kid who did
one of those in the middle of the time out,
little games whatever. He was wearing a eight number eight
jersey Charlotte Hornets with the name on the back Bryant,
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and I was like, Wow, that kid, he's like eight
years old. That was that was a deep cut for
him to get that customize Kobe Bryant jersey. But it
was very odd hearing Hornets fans chant for Kobe. But
in that moment, man, I still can't believe that they
were able to get him for the low price that
they did in that trade. And I think Kobe White
is perfect for LaMelo ball, different different kind of game
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to him. But when he was off the floor against
the Boston Celtics lamel ball was a couple of weeks ago,
they couldn't score and the reason was because Kobe White
didn't play in that game. And so I kept telling people, Hey,
it's one game that the Hornets did not play well
against the Celtics On National TV. But I will tell
you this, it's not over Friday night against either the
Philadelphia seventy six ers or the Orlando Magic. Charlotte Hornets
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fans are so excited after that game last night, and
rightfully so, but this playing tournament, it's not over till
it's over. They gotta win on Friday in order for
them to punch their take into the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Tom, do you think Kobe White's on the mount rushmore
of the play in tournament?
Speaker 8 (25:36):
I think i'd be, he actually said last night. He
told Miles Bridges, He's like, I think I've lost the
Miami Heat four times in the play in tournament.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
You know, like think about that that.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Not only has he been in the play on tournament
so many times, but he's lost to one specific team.
So Kobe White's got to be in that tournament. Who
else would be in the Panta Davion Mitchell.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Davion Mitchell needs to be in the play because, I
mean's last two years alone, he's had spectacular games.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
Oh he's so good.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
He's such a perfect Miami Heat player. By the way,
think about the Sacramento Kings. They had Tyrese Haliburt and
Darren Fox and Davey on Mitchell and now look at
the Sacramento Kings.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
Go Pilfer from the Sacramento Kings. From henceforth.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Well, we're talking to Tom Haverstow here, and amongst the
many things that he does, he's Portland Trailblazers analytics insider.
It's always jarring when I see you come on to
the Portland broadcast. I'm like, wait a second, you don't
live out there. You're just popping up on my screen.
But it's really cool to see you there. I want
to talk to you about Denny Advia because my favorite
stat about him is he just wasted his four years
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with the Wizards. Like the first four years is a
complete waste. He played his third year with the Wizards,
or fourth year with the Wizards, played the exact same
number of minutes or average, exact same number of minutes
as Jordan Pool. Okay, but somehow Jordan Poole, a forty
one percent shooter, shot fifteen point two times a gay
and Advia, a fifty one percent shooter, only shot ten
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point seven times per game. And it's just like, what
were the Wizards doing with him? Why were they giving
Jordan Poole more responsibility, But give me the story of
Denny here, because he's emerging. He has emerged all year long.
It's a great player, and it still feels like nobody
knows him.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
Yeah, he's making fourteen million dollars this year, thirteen million
next year, and eleven next year. To put that in perspective,
those three years combined is less than half of what
some NBA players make. So Denny Abdi is playing at
an all NBA level with a descending contract.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
Which is very rare.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
And the Washington Wizards basically they didn't giveaway for free.
It was two first round picks. But Denny Abdia is
a revelation and he came to Portland last year kind
of had a rough start with the Blazers, and then
halfway through the season he took off and turned into
Luca doncs Lebron James, averaging twenty five, six and six,
and he's been that way this entire season. He leads
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the NBA in and ones, a category that usually means
you're a first team All NBA guy. He also leads
the league in drives drive assists. He's the full full
compliment of a player and he last night he had
thirty points, sorry, forty one points and then thirty assist points,
so meaning his twelve assists led to thirty points combined
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seventy one points from Danny Abdia's creation in that play
in game.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
So he's fantastic.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
He's a guy that they call turbo because he can't
he's so fast in the open court. And on the broadcast,
we've run out of things to say about him because
he's been that good for so long. It's it's we're
trying to let the audience know how rare it is
in the NBA to have a guy come out of
nowhere and become an all NBA talent.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
And that's the Danni Abdya story.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Well, I would say their first round opponent probably gonna
have a lot of eyes on them, right because they're
playing against the Spurs. What are we gonna Are we
gonna see him break out here? Does it seem like
they have any sort of a shot against Vic and
the Spurs.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Well, I just wrote a story for Yahoo Sports saying
that the Spurs might win this entire NBA playoffs, they
might win the championship this year, And I would I
would say it's a much better odds of them winning
it than what you're seeing on the sports books and
odds makers outside of Vegas, wherever you'd see these odds.
The Spurs are ready. The NBA playoff experience is overrated.
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And I don't know if Stu Gott's is listening on
his trip.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Up to Chicago. He's busy boots on the ground.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
We kind of like talk about playoff experience that you
have to like go through the NBA grind, the playoff grind,
in order to be considered seriously.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
We just watched a.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Team, basically a bunch of college kids win the NBA
Championship with the Oklahoma City Thunder and they beat a
young Indiana Pacers team that barely had a playoff run
the year before. And so when you look at the
San Antonio Spurs, it just seems like we should treat
this sixty two win team with a little bit more respect.
With Wemby and with all the injuries that happened in
the postseason, we're getting a lot of variants. Weird stuff
(29:50):
is happening in the postseason, and I think the San
Antonio Spurs is a tough draw for the Blazers. They
haven't actually played Wemby this year. Wenby has missed all
three games against the Blazers this season. So the Denny
Avdya Wemby matchup is gonna be fascinating because Denny loves
getting downhill and drawing contact and finishing at the rim.
And that's exactly what Wemby does extremely well, is bottling
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up paint and protecting the rim. It's kind of like
rocks paper scissors, where you got Turbo. He's the rock,
he's the wrecking ball coming in and Wemby is the paper.
And I think like Wemby is just he's so big
out there. He's one of the best rum protectors we've
ever seen. And I'm worried that Denny Abdya's superpower is
just gonna be just it's gonna run up against the
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Wemby machine. And so it's a tough draw for anybody,
but especially someone who gets to the cup as much
as Danny does.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
That was so skillful. I have never heard somebody do
the paper beats rock analogy well, and that is absolutely
perfect with Victor Webbin Yama and Danny Advia. Congratulations Tom,
that was amazing. Since you said the Spurs are going
to win it, and we'll just get you out of
here on this. It feels like that fourteen to fifteen
the first Warriors championship, where you know, brand new coach,
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a bunch of new players and for the new players
and still won the championship even though they had some
playoff experience. If it's Spurs Nuggets in the Western Conference,
at some point, given what we've seen in the regular season,
you're still feeling that confident about the Spurs.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
I am, I am, that's how good the Spurs are.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
And Wemby, when he's on the floor, he makes the
largest impact.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
In the NBA.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
And he's a guy that played twenty eight minutes per
game in the regular season because I think they're just
saving him for the postseason. So imagine how good they
are sixty two win season when they're getting only twenty
eight minutes a game from Wemby. So if that goes
to thirty five minutes. With the permittent impact that you
see on both ends of the floor and the spacing,
the gravity, everything that he brings, he shrinks the floor
defensively and expands it offensively, You're going to see a
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guy that I think has a really good chance at
winning it all in his first playoff Ruim.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Tom, I'm going into this postseason as a Knicks fan,
a little nervous, and I count on you as the
analytics guy. What's the best thing you could tell me
about this Knicks team going into the playoffs to make
me feel a little bit better.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Well, I think the Pistons in the same way that
the Spurs are green. I don't feel like they're really proven,
so to speak. And so if you're the next I
think the best argument is who else is going to
be it? Who else is going to win the East?
And I think that's the best thing I can say
about the next Star. Sorry, Taylor, I know you wanted more,
but that's about id all I can do.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
You can read them on Yahoo's Sports. You can listen
to them, unpack your knives. You can watch him well
you could have watched him this season as Portland's analytics insider.
Tom Haberstrow, thanks so much for the inside man. You're
always great.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
You got anytime.
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Stu Gotts and Hawkman. A couple minutes left here with
Stu Gotts out trying to get to the bottom of
the Chicago Bulls situation with Billy Donovan. Taylor has a
baseball stat he wants to tell me, But first I
want to ask you a question. Taylor. We've got the
play in in the Western Conference, a nine to ten
matchup tonight. That's Steph Curry and the Warriors versus Kawhi
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Leonard and the Clippers. And I'm just curious what sort
of the opinion is from the outside looking in, maybe
the non you know, crazy basketball fans, Which one of
those two guys would you consider being able to still
sort of wreck a playoff bracket? Which one of those
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two guys, Steph Curry or Kawhi Leonard obviously current day,
would be able to either make some noise and potentially
even upset the Oklahoma City Thunder and then just put
the fear of God into everybody else that's in the playoffs.
We've seen them both do it individually with different teams.
But right now, which one of those two do you
think would be more ready to do.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
So my mind is saying Kawhi Leonard just because when
he's healthy, he's a top five basketball player, top five
basketball talent in the world. But my heart wants to
say Seph Curry just because it feels more attainable that
Steph could just get hot from three.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Well, it's so it's just a perfect way to look
at it, right like you're saying, because we've actually seen
Kawhi Leonard wreck a Steph Curry team. Now, granted it
was Game one of a playoff series, and then who
knows what would have happened after that if he didn't
turn his ankle and would have stayed in. Maybe the
Warriors recover, maybe they go still on to win that
(34:48):
first championship with KD. But it was looking pretty Bleak
there he was absolutely tearing up the Warriors before you know,
famously ja Ja Paculia accidentally slid under his foot and
hurt him there and so, and then you've seen it
with Toronto, with the cast around him that you would
say easily is weaker than the cast that was around
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Steph Curry for his first three championships. Now that fourth one,
maybe twenty twenty two, maybe you could argue Steph had
a weaker supporting cast. But you also throw in the
fact that Kawhi could wreck a team defensively, right, So
if it's Okase, your first goal against them isn't necessarily
to outscore them, it's to shut down shake Gil just Alexander,
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you cut off the head of the snake, you more
than likely have a pretty decent chance at beating them.
So I want to say Kawhi Leonard two, But man,
Steph Curry has done so much to just absolutely separate
his team from a game, and when he and Draymond
are in rhythm, it's it's scary to play against. And
so I don't know who to pick.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Both these two teams feel like me when I'm scrolling
on TikTok where I'm thirty two years old. In my mind,
I'm not that old. But when I get on TikTok,
everybody's like, oh, look at Unk over here, get on
Caddy here, I'm like, WHOA, what's going on? That's how
I kind of feel when I look at Kawhi Leonard
and Steph Curry, I'm like, let's let the young guys
take over.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Now.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
You both are gonna get out of the playoffs very soon,
so let's just get it over.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
But if there was an unk who could go ahead
and still provide some fun, Like, this is why I'm
gonna say Steph Curry is probably the guy who can
do it, but the guy that I would want to do,
it's just more fun to watch. Like when you're watching Kawhi,
it's just like that dude is an absolute killer, like
you just bowed down. There's nothing you can say about it.
But when you're watching Steph, like, it's an entirely different feeling.
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And when he himself is just absolutely just demoralizing an opponent,
it just it feels entirely different. But go ahead, give
you this baseball stat line before we get out of here.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
So Lehigh Baseball yesterday set a Division one record by
scoring twenty runs in the first inning of a thirty
eight to six win over Copen State. If I tell
you a team scores twenty runs, how many hits would
you assume they got in that first inning?
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Ooh, alright, so I mean you gotta get a fuple
of it. I would say at least double figures. Let's
just say comfortably, I'll say twelve.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Lehigh scored twenty runs in the top of the first
on just three hits, with eleven walks and six batters
hit by a pitch. Jesus, just a disaster.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Was there a pitching change in there or did they
let one wild pitcher just have a day?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
So the first three pitchers combined for one out and
nineteen earned runs. That's a five hundred and thirteen era
maybe the most preposterous stat line I've ever seen. Lehigh's
third baseman, senior Aiden Quinn. He finished zero for one
with seven walks in this article. So they go down
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twenty runs in the first inning. This article says Copingstate
did manage to trim a run back in the bottom
of the inning to trail twenty to one through the.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
First Taylor, this is the team we need to play
to get a win with our softball team, just let
them walk us all around the bases. We are just
stretch and win a game. This is absolutely perfect. Still
got to be back tomorrow, I think,
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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