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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Let's give this. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Damon Stotdamier going to join us in about fifteen minutes.
Documentary comes out today on Netflix. Jail Blazers looking forward
to that. I remember me and Dan doing a segment
saying what teams deserve a thirty for thirty And we
took calls on it and everyone called it and said
(00:46):
the jail Blazers, the jail blazers, the jail blazers. Well,
somebody was listening and it was Netflix. And again that
movie comes out tonight. David Stottamaier going to join us
in just a minute before we get to just me
or Taylor.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
What's the score of the soccer game?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I mean it went to half nil nil. Boom cash
those tickets.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It always does.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Nils everywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yes, all right, it's a weekly segment here. I need
some music for it?
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Just me?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Or who is going to kick off the proceedings today?
I am told that Iowa Sam doesn't have one. I'm
not certain if Porto Ricardo has one. He's usually watching baseball.
I know, is he has one, I'm not certain if
Dan has one. We'll just go around the room. If you, oh,
thumbs up from Dan?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Let's start the feeling. Dan is annoyed by us. So
he hates us?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, the only question is is he hate us
more than he hates Iowa sick?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
That's impossible, bit.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
All right, here's kicking us off off with quiet. Let's
go to uh ord out Ricardo. Here he was prying
himself away from the soccer match just for a second
to deliver just.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Me or all right?
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Is it just me?
Speaker 8 (02:09):
Or the doc Rivers Rivers experiment in Milwaukee go exactly
as expected?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's not just you.
Speaker 8 (02:16):
So he's like an action here at walking away from
an explosion that he just helped cause yeah and saying
into the camera google.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Me, Yeah, he is right.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I love the jokes on doc Rivers. I understand all
the hate that he receives. I just remember every time
I went to talk to Doc Rivers. The guy would
give me great answers and it didn't even matter what
the subject was. Like i could be talking to him
on a Tuesday when he's playing against the Houston Rockets
and I'm asking him a Tyler Hero question the team
(02:46):
that he's not even playing. He'll give me a five
minute answer, well thought out, and I'm just like, you
know what, I like that guy.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I can't continue to poop on it.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
At least your opinions are not biased or anything.
Speaker 9 (02:55):
I mean, jeez, can I ask you, guys a Doc
Rivers question? Yeah, voice always been like that.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yes, it's been pretty bad for a long time. I
can't remember what a younger Doc Rivers said.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I mean, I didn't hear him speak as a child,
so I don't know, guys. Can I jump in here
real quick?
Speaker 10 (03:12):
I actually heard of saw a video of Doc Rivers
from the nineties when he was like a commentator.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
His voice is a lot less scratchy.
Speaker 10 (03:19):
I think the years of years of coaching, he did
actually at one point have a voice that was clear
and not scratchy. So if you look up some Doc
Rivers from the nineties, you'll hear his original voice.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Okay, all right, do I have to look that up?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I'm not gonna do that, but thank you for the option.
Speaker 11 (03:34):
So see if I can find it ten minutes later.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I don't think this thing will be found no dice
spoiler alert. Now he'll tell us.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Dan right in the middle of Damon STOTTAMAI like, I
got it, Taylor, You're up?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Is it just me?
Speaker 9 (03:54):
Or should our softball team not have a bye every
other week?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
A second bye?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Tea?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
What a league this is?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I love it?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Well, first off, tell the audience how many weeks you
guys have been participating in this in the soft ball league?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
So we started off, we signed up. There's five people
that know each other in this league. It's me, Taylor, Anthony,
a couple other people. And Week one we had a bye.
Sweet off to Week two. Yes, Week two they played.
I did not play. I had one at bat because
I showed up late, and I think we only played
what three innings?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Lost nineteen to three? Yeah, nineteen three mercy rule after
fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I love that. That's a quick night.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Week three unfortunately a rain out, or I'd call it
a dry rain out because it didn't actually Rain, you
were celebrating, right, Oh man, what a night. And then
last week I believe it was last week. I just
didn't show up. I wasn't feeling great and they showed up.
Speaker 9 (04:46):
They still lost, but moths closer we lost by five.
So this is technically week five. So for those people
keeping track at home, we've played two games and we've
had two bye weeks.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
But it was a rege. How many innings is a
reg the game?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
So it'sn't timed?
Speaker 9 (05:03):
Oh okay time When they get to five minutes left,
they say, okay, finish this inning.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Okay, that's weird. I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
So yeah, so we needed another break, so another buy
this week's.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Dude, impossible for our team to get into a rhythm.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Though, well yes, with all the boys right? And is
he not showing up and just generally beating bat weather? Delay?
Is all of it?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Mean?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I heard our catcher is terrible.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I'm surprised.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
You have to wait, my god, our cat are I
hope our catcher's not listening to this? And if he is,
shut shut your app right now. Our catcher is an aarp.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Okay, So Taylor, when when is he shows up? You
lose by sixteen and the night ends early. When he
doesn't show up, you lose by five.
Speaker 9 (05:40):
Yeah, yeah, but it wasn't Easy's fault. Why we why
we like? He had one at bat and he didn't
play in the field. Yes, you know he struck out
in only.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
He doesn't want to be there.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Now, if you're asking for trends with me and Taylor
as teammates, he didn't show up for our double header
in flag football this past Saturday, and we won both games.
So whenever Taylor and I are on the field together,
we don't win anything.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Let me tell you there apart, you do way better.
So you wouldn't care if the softball team won without you?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Oh no, okay, great, I would encourage it, right, the more,
the more better.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yes, But Taylor, I am telling you right now, he
takes sports seriously. And I am telling you there's been
a sleepless night or two. Yeah, over the fact that
your team flag football team won two games without them.
Speaker 9 (06:23):
Yes, Stu, you would love this from our softball game
the past one that we lost. We cut it to three,
we're down three, we're getting up in the in the lineup,
and I call this part of our lineup Murderers Row,
and not because they were great at hitting, but because
they were probably alive when Murderer's Row was playing in
the nineteen twenties. Yes, and they all struck out looking.
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They went down, They went down one, two, three.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
They should be ashamed of themselves.
Speaker 9 (06:50):
I'll take one of their spots on soffect one of
them was walking off the field, and he's our pitcher too.
He's actually a pretty good pitcher. But he's walking off
the field and he looks at the picture. You go,
pitch great pitcher, and one guy on our team, who
just had enough at this point, goes swing the bat next.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Time, right, it's not the picture if you not swinging.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Dan, you think I should let that one go Where
he said pitch great pitcher instead of pitcher great pitch.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I didn't let it go. You don't have to answer
the question.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
By asking him by extension you did not let it go?
Is he never lets things go?
Speaker 6 (07:25):
No at all?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, he holds on to learn from the best. Yes,
let's go to update anchor. Dan here, Dan, you're up.
Speaker 11 (07:34):
Yeah, quick side note before I get to the is
it just me? Doc Rivers nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Oh, it's been a tough year.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
It's been a good year of batue.
Speaker 12 (07:42):
I mean there's been points in the season where I
thought it didn't matter who we play, we would beat
and it was no doubt about it. Their court to
our core. Then there's been points where I thought anybody
who wanted to beat us could beat us. I don't
know why that happened, but if we get into playoffs.
Speaker 11 (07:57):
It is that's a different human being. That is River
ninety one. You can kind of still hear the Doc
Rivers today. Who know, Yeah, it was totally yeah, thirty seconds.
Actually you got it. Dan pulled it before. Hold on,
Dan pulled it before I. I had to send to
the editors be rolled in. Dan beat me to it,
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and that's exact same clip. Yeah, just Doc Rivers nineteen
ninety interview.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That's lawa. Then it popped up. First thing, Thanks Dan,
we send my thunder. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I was killing mine right, But Dan, we got a
text and he said it would be ready in two minutes.
You played it in fifteen seconds. Fifteen seconds after he
sent us that text.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I'm gonna go through the proper channels here, guys.
Speaker 11 (08:39):
He's got to send it through Cedar Falls and then
it was coming.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I send my carrier pigeon. All right, is it just me?
Speaker 11 (08:47):
Or is bunker cam completely worthless? And it dawned on
me Sunday when Rory was on the eighteenth holl and
he was hitting his shot from the bunker and CBS
has been grilled for their coverage. We grilled them on
Monday all of the things that went wrong. The one
thing that we need to know on Rory's third shot
from the bunker is where it lands. So I assume
(09:09):
that those guys in the truck were like, this is amazing,
he's in the bunker. Let's go to bunker cam. And
it gives us no information on what we really need
in this instance or any other instance when someone is
in the bunker. Even when it stays in the bunker,
you're not even focused on the ball. It's somewhere off
to the left and sand is flying in your face.
(09:30):
So to me, bunker cam completely useless in broadcasting golf.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Nobody has ever been more upset about a camera in
They're Live Yeah than Dan Byer is about bunker.
Speaker 11 (09:41):
The opposite of pylon cam, like pilon cam is amazing.
I love Pylon cam. H totally useful. This not so much, right,
sand cam. You could do with that though, right.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, Bunker cam a waste of.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Time, by the way, I always sam, I hope you
have the sound here of Jim Nantz. He was on
the Pat McAfee show. We did make fun of the
coverage yesterday. Why is it jim Nantz here? One second?
He tells me he's working on doc rivers from the
nineteen nineties. Sound that we already played. If you get it,
let me know if it's long.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Play a vision. We all make mistakes. I'm really proud
of our crew.
Speaker 13 (10:19):
You're making, as you said, so many decisions, split second decisions.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
The things that were shown.
Speaker 13 (10:27):
Produced by our crew, hundreds of people involved over the
course of four days, some thirty hours of television.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
You know.
Speaker 13 (10:34):
I can't speak to the difficulty and some of the
decision making, some of other things that people are responsible for.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
I just know that our crew is the best in
the business. Classic nance.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I would watch a streaming channel of Dan Byer and Iosa.
I'm just hanging out. He sent the camera following them everywhere.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
He keeps up ending me here. Yeah, well, he keeps
stealing my thunder right, your job better. I'm trying as
fast as I can.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Dan.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I mean, you're getting pipped.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I don't want Sam's job. Yeah, no, thanks, I was Sam.
Do you have a Is it just me?
Speaker 14 (11:12):
Or No?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I don't. That was my contributions. He's coming. I mean
after that, you want you want Dan.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
To do it for you?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Sure, he's got a second one.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Absolutely what this is what having a teenage son feels
like they're disappointed in because that's kind of the that's
washing over me right now.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I get it. Yeah, I love them.
Speaker 10 (11:31):
Two pieces of audio that I was going to give
you the Dan beat me too.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Already, absolutely miserable. Thank you, Dan, ep Jason? Does he
have one today? Guys? Is it just me?
Speaker 14 (11:43):
Or is drafting the girlfriend of your star player a
dicey proposition?
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Now?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Hear me out.
Speaker 14 (11:53):
Sports is a delicate ecosystem, it is, and to disrupt
that ecosystem and and way, shape or form is dicey dangerous.
And to put a ton of money and resources into
this if there is a breakup, if there is something
that breaks that delicate ecosystem, the Dallas Wings are going
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to be worse off because of it. Is it just
me or what guys.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I know, as somebody who has dated a teammates currently
dating a teammate, it is a dicey situation.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Who would have thought this is your wheelhouse?
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Man?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I know, yes, I will say in that scenario, I mean,
they could date after the draft, right if they didn't,
they could always just meet as teammates and then ended
up having a relationship there. So I don't really think
that not drafting somebody because they're dating your star player
is a reason not to draft that person. I think
it's crazy interesting, Like I think you're I mean you
talk about like the heated rivalry stuff with that getting
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so much attention. That was a fictional story based on
the number one and number two overall draft picks in
the NHL. This is back to back number one pick.
It's in the WNBA, and they're already on the same team.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Like, man, that is.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
That talk about reality shows?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I would watch, yes, But your situation is a little
bit different. You're the coach, no I play, I mean,
but you are the coach.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
He's kind of the offensive captain as a quarterback, and
so we kind of butt heads into the.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Way as well.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
There's a conflict of interest right, so many conflicts, so
many conflicts everywhere.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I have the brain of a quarterback. He has the
ability of a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Right, But are you coming down on Anthony as hard
as you would on somebody else?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5 (13:30):
No, no, Right, The things I say to him I
wouldn't say to other people's is crazy because it should
be the opposite.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think it's fascinating.
Speaker 11 (13:38):
I think it's so fascinating for a draft process as well,
when you're trying to when your career as a GM
would be on the line, like it's on the line
of their relationships, right, your career if it doesn't work
out as he said, you have two number one overall
picks back to back, and now you maybe have to
make a decision.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
But here's how I know it's not going to be
a problem with them just projecting forward. They have been
so slick about the relationship to begin with. It's not
like they've announced this, right. This has been a sort
of quiet thing that's been going on since college. And
so I think they know they're you know, grown women
know how to handle their situation. That's the way they
come across. That's the way Page has always come across.
I don't really know fun that well, but that's the
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way page has always come across. So not worried about
it at all. If anything, it would be something that
draws more eyes to my team. And if I'm worried
about a breakup ruining my team chemistry, I'm probably you know,
thinking too far ahead.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
And guys, they kind of had excuse. They kind of
had a draft her. I mean, it's not like she
was just some fringe second round pick. She was going
to be Yeah, you're so ready what happened there? That's
not a little fog in my throat. Dan has never
looked more disappointed. Oh, I was just going to say they,
I mean she was she would have gone number one.
Whoever was gonna draft like they had to take I
don't know about that, but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Right, And just to be clear, you don't have a
just me or right, I mean, I just want to
piggyback on your guys.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
You have everything else, some of it late, But I mean,
I also don't want to say that she wasn't like
a consensus number one pick. That was like two or
three players that were considered potential number one.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
This is what I'm saying world one and a lot
of a lot.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Stop talking where No, not you, Dan. I didn't say
that to you. Dan.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I apologize. I thought it was Iowa was in keep talking, Dan,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 11 (15:24):
I was just gonna say we saw our number one
because Dallas was picking number one. In terms of a
prospect ranking, she may not have been number one, and
in some rankings she wasn't, but in mock drafts she
was because likely because it was in need for Dallas,
but also that relationship.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And what I'm telling you is in a weird world
where is he is an NFL GM and Anthony is
eligible for the NFL draft and no one else has
him grated He's not going to be drafted at all?
Is he has a number one overall pick and he's
selecting Anthony? I mean because he's got to deal with
them at home. I mean, all right, let me wrap
up this game. All right, it's my turn?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Is it just may or should just exclude Iowa Sam
from all these games going forward?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Not just you.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
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Speaker 1 (16:24):
Damon Stottameier here to preview the playing game for the
Blazers today. I am TS and he is with us
because a new documentary is coming out today on Netflix.
I'm told Jail Blazers very excited to watch this documentary.
Very excited to talk to Damon Stotdameier about this documentary.
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Is He started by saying, you're the rare NBA player
that never ages. What is the key to not aging?
Speaker 15 (16:52):
I mean, Jesus, you know you gonna get gray. I
got a little gray, But just say stress free, you know,
try to keep life as simple as you can't. Let look,
keep life way simpler than what I did way back then.
When this documentary come out?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
How did this documentary come together?
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Sammon?
Speaker 15 (17:16):
It's been in the works for for years, you know,
and it finally came to And I think, like I
always say, like, you know, you know everybody, I should
say everybody, but you know, in talking with the fellas,
you know, they didn't. They didn't want to put everybody
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on the documentary that actually I felt like needed to
be on the documentary, but I was like, in order
for something to be seen from both sides. You got
to have an antagonist and protagonist, and that's just kind
of the way it is.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
So you know the people that were on.
Speaker 15 (17:51):
On the on the doc you know, uh, the John Conzano,
you know Colin Cowhard who was actually know most people
wouldn't notice he he was reporting in Portland before he
actually took off, took off and became who he became.
And so you know, then you have Bob witst Bob
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Witson is on there, and he's kind of talking.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
About you know, uh, his you know.
Speaker 15 (18:18):
His thoughts in this process of trying to put the
team together and how he built it, uh, from when
he took from when.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
He took the job. And he'll talk about those things.
Speaker 15 (18:26):
And it's funny because when you see the documentary, I
will I won't say who it is, but it's going
to be interesting that people when the when the documentary
first opens up, if people will understand the guy in
the frame because he does not have hair now and
so and and and he and he is a owner
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of an NBA team not named not named Paul Allen.
So it's gonna be interesting that people catch on to
that really didn't because if you catch on to it,
you're gonna be like, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Okay, now now this.
Speaker 15 (19:05):
Yeah, so no, it's so you know that that was
that was the thought process and everything, and so, you know,
I thought that it was I thought.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
That it was really well put together.
Speaker 15 (19:14):
I thought that it represented that moment, and I thought
they did a good job of keeping the main thing
the main thing, and not getting off track, but essentially
talking about, you know, some the issues, some of the
issues off the floor, but then framing the team within
that you know, four to five year window from ninety
nine to oh four, and you know, just talking about
that and how that window and you guys know you
(19:35):
keep up with sports obviously, you know, and you.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Know how that window closes.
Speaker 12 (19:39):
Man.
Speaker 15 (19:39):
People don't understand, I think the professional sports, how quickly
that window closes. You have a window two, three, four years. Man,
if it don't happen, you gotta you gotta do some
other things. And Bob talks about that as well.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
I'm excited to see it. Uh just comes out today.
I watched the lamar odin one and it was spectacular.
That was another untold one. There have been some sports
documentaries in the past that aren't the best. So you're
obviously saying this one seems pretty thorough and pretty fair.
Is there anything missing? Would you say, is there anything
that you would have liked to have been in there?
Speaker 6 (20:09):
No, I just know I think that it. I think
that it just it.
Speaker 15 (20:13):
The best thing to me is that again it's stuck
to the main, the main thing, you know, and and
and it and it, and I think that it really
will fill in the blanks for a lot of people
from from across the country that maybe wanted to know, man,
what was going on in Portland at that time, because
obviously there was there wasn't social media. Uh, We're we're
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a one we were a one paper town. Uh we
were a one you know, a one radio station town
at that time. And so from from people like yourselves
who are picking this up, you know, you're only seeing
it and hearing it from one perspective. But what happens is, right,
is a lot of times that even when guys had
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moved on, you know and went a different team teams,
you know, as you got to know those guys and
even myself and Rashid and bond to everybody else that
moved on, you know, you you you find out the
guys weren't what it was portrayed. And I just think
that the biggest thing about the documentary is just remember
the setting. You're talking twenty plus years ago, you're talking
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a different time. You're talking about even Portland itself. And
I'm from Portland, and I think that, like my perspective,
I've always tried to give a perspective of Portland. You know,
I think even my perspective is even different now because
the city has grown and it is different than you know,
obviously it was in the early two thousands.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
You know what's weird, David is I graduated high school
ninety five. You're nine similar age group, and so I
don't associate you with the quote unquote jail Blazers like
we're Rashid for that matter, because you know, once you separate,
like you separate the player from the activities that were
going on, it's just like, Okay, I know who these
people are, but I'm curious. I know all the issues
(21:59):
weren't Wanna related, But if you were to fast forward
and say the same team played in a when it
was legal recreationally, would it be would we have the
jail Blazers or would we have a couple.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Of incidents on a team. I'm just curious.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
No, it just would have been a couple of incidents
on the team.
Speaker 15 (22:16):
And that's that's the perspective that I think that we,
you know, we wanted to give off because I think
you've seen young guys twenty four to twenty five and
twenty six, you know, growing up, and now there's a
different perspective. I mean, I'm fifty two years old coaching
doing different things, but it's just there's a different, totally
different perspective.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
So yeah, I do believe that.
Speaker 15 (22:36):
And I mean even now in the evaluation of players,
you know, when you're trying to figure out what's what
about guys, you know, the talk of marijuana isn't the same,
you know, and I think that it's legal.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Well yeah, yeah, it isn't. It isn't the same.
Speaker 15 (22:58):
But I think that, you know, for a guy like myself,
it put me in such a pigeonhole at that time,
it kind of it kind of spooked me.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
So for me, it's like, you know.
Speaker 15 (23:10):
I'm telling you that last time, I put it down
and never looked back. Because for me, getting into the
troubles that I was getting into at that time and
the ridicule that I was taking. I was like, man,
it kind of it didn't kill my career, but what
I say it tarnished my reputation at that time. So
I think that you were viewed a little differently, and
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you know, for me, that wasn't how I wanted to
beat you.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So, Untold jail Blazers premieres tonight on Netflix. When you
were going through it, Damon, what was the most unfair
thing that was said? Reported talked about disgust as it
related to your team.
Speaker 15 (23:49):
Well, I thought the headline itself, you know, for me,
I thought it was disrespectful. I've said it a lot
because I never really talked about Honestly, I never talked
about my time with Portland because.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
I never wanted to disrespect, you know, the city.
Speaker 15 (24:05):
I never wanted to disrespect the organization, you know, in
terms of you know, how.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
I might have portrayed and how I might have felt.
But as I've gotten older.
Speaker 15 (24:15):
You get you get a more, you get more of
a perspective on what's really what it really is, right
and so uh and talking about what was going on.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I just thought the headline was unfair because we.
Speaker 15 (24:27):
Didn't if we're going to talk about that, and you know,
speaking for me, you know, we're going to talk about
my hiccups because I had them, and so I'm not
gonna hide from them. Let's talk about the positive that
I was also doing in the community where I grew
up in. And so that was for me hurt for
a bit. But then I felt like you lumped a
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group of guys in that that in certain cases didn't
do anything. So you can't just lump a group of
guys in and and and give a moniker to it
and they not you know, and and and and make
them portrayed them as the same as everyone else. And
so I just thought that that perspective, of that perspective
(25:09):
on it, you know, was disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Damn, I'm a Carolina guy. What was Rashid Wallace like
as a teammate?
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Awesome?
Speaker 15 (25:18):
Yes, he's one of my one of my favorite, one
of my favorite teammates ever, if not my my favorite.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
You know what's funny is is as I as I.
Speaker 15 (25:29):
Went through the NBA and even talking to people now,
Rashid Wallace was probably one of you think about this
and what I'm about to say, for most for most teams,
in the NBA during that time, he was the missing
piece for probably everybody's team to be in a championship contention, right,
And I think that I think that the thing about
(25:52):
Rashida made him such a great teammate was that, you know,
he he he fought for his for his guy, He
fought for his guys in the locker room. He never
felt like he never felt.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Like we needed more.
Speaker 15 (26:06):
You know, he always felt like we can get it
done with what's in the locker room. And as a
teammate and being the best player, you know, you need
that positivity. And I always say, you know, you know
when I look at when I look at him, when
I look at him, and I look when he went
to Detroit for instance, you know, and you've seen what
(26:26):
he brought to that team.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Again, he was the missing piece.
Speaker 15 (26:32):
But everything that he was, everything that he was ridiculed for,
it became the mantra when he went to Detroit. So
it was almost like he went to the perfect situation.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yes, damn it did Portland? Did the city? Did the
fans start to turn on your team? They embraced the
team early on.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
You guys were.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Very good and talented.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Team eventually did that city kind of turn on the team.
Speaker 15 (26:56):
Well, let's be honest, guys, Like we can say, we
can say that, but the reality is we didn't win, right,
and so when you when you win, sometimes it don't
matter how you win as long as you win. Yes,
So so we didn't so as we didn't win, you know,
that's just kind of what happens. That that that just happens, right,
(27:19):
you start to see pieces leave the team, and so
I'm not going to say that the fans, you know,
just necessarily turned on the team. But you know, what
you can say is that we weren't winning, so they
quit showing up because of what was happening with the team,
you know, And so you know, I think that that
that that was more more of it than anything. And
(27:40):
so I don't think that, you know, I think that
they became mad at the at the player.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
They were mad at the players, but then.
Speaker 15 (27:46):
I think after a while they became a little just
disenchanted with the with the people that were running the
organization as well.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
So, Devin, I want to ask you about your time
coaching before I get there. Uh, your first couple you're
in Toronto put up a good amount of threes for
the time, like I think it was maybe five or
six a game, and that not as much for the
rest of your career except for you know, one or
two seasons here there. If you were fifteen years younger,
you have what kind of numbers you're putting up in
the NBA today.
Speaker 15 (28:14):
With all this, you know, I always try to listen.
I always try to tell I always try to tell
myself I won't be a hater. So I'm not gonna
I'm not going to say without what I would have done.
But when I think about when I think about how
I played, it would have been tailor made for this
generation I do. And you know, being able to play
(28:36):
with the ball or without the ball, I think that,
you know, it just it would have fit in what
was going on in today's basketball. You know, they're so
they're so they're so big. We're so big now on
creating mismatches. We're so big on guys who can dribble,
pass and shoot, and so if you can do those things,
you can have a lot of success in this here.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
So, David, uh, this is half a joke. But why
why do coaches hate the a c C Now? The
a C C.
Speaker 15 (29:07):
Well, for me, I didn't win enough. So you know,
you know, listen, this is the crazy.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It all gets out to winning. That's what.
Speaker 15 (29:17):
Everything, everything comes down to winning, you know in college now, uh,
you've got to be able to win.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
You got to have uh, you got.
Speaker 15 (29:28):
To have support, and you got to have money. And
I think that that's what we're seeing now. And and
you know, guys are you know now now you know
that's people are talking.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
They've been making a big deal out of it.
Speaker 15 (29:42):
But if you think about the n c A tournament,
you know, everybody's saying that it's hard for people to
to to uh, to.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Majors, to upset teams. Now it's hard because.
Speaker 15 (29:56):
You know, the money aspect, you know, and you even
look at you know, Carolin Carolina lost in the first round,
but Carolina probably is not even a sixth seed if
Caleb Wilson isn't injured, right, and so him being injured,
you know, cost them seating and then they ended up
losing that game or whatnot. But you know, it's just,
(30:17):
you know, the dynamic of college is different, and so
I think that you you know, I honestly believe in
a lot of different ways, college is closer to the
NBA than ever, And I do believe that at some
point the guardrails and the rules need to be similar
(30:37):
to what to what the standards are in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
And you know, the one thing I would.
Speaker 15 (30:42):
Say is, you know, even when I look at my
situation this year, right, you know, because we spiraled and
we end up losing twelve games in a row, but
you know, the year before, you know, we won ten
conference games, we went to the n i T, so
the trajectory was fine.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
And now you talk about.
Speaker 15 (31:00):
I think, you know, when you look at the NBA,
for instance, right, and you're talking about the NBA, I've
seen a statistic that was staggering, and it was eight teams.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
This year I think lost fifty five plus games.
Speaker 15 (31:14):
And so the only the only reason I'm using that
as analogy compared to where I'm at for perspective for
the people is that there has to be a shared vision,
because there can be years of a one off regardless.
And so the only reason that people can withstand fifty
five lost seasons in the NBA is because it's a
(31:35):
shared vision. So in certain instances, you might be expected
to win lose fifty five games because the team isn't
ready to win. You say, you're trying to find out
who You're trying to figure out who you're going to keep,
and who's gonna beat up for the long haul who
is and how you make trades and how you don't
make trades, and so, you know, I think college is
a lot closer.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
To that than they want to believe.
Speaker 15 (31:57):
So I think that for any coach, any head coach,
it doesn't matter at him.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Uh.
Speaker 15 (32:01):
It always has to be a shared vision. So everybody's
on the same page. It's not the same way as
it used to be, you know. And and I think
that's the perspective that that I take from from this
year and and even looking at what you just said,
a lot of the coaches, you know, the ACC we
a lot of us were.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Let go and then uh uh will wait, you know,
he left.
Speaker 15 (32:23):
So you know, that's my perspective, that's my that's what
I feel, and I think that's what's coming.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
But we'll see.
Speaker 15 (32:30):
But I do I do believe that we're closer to
something of that then than we are anything else. Yeah,
that makes sense, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
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ever Coachella we're doing it this year. You're a coach
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feel free.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
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We're not sure. If we can have, we'll make.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You Master of Ceremonies if you like it, if you
want to all right, all right, all right, all right.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
We'll be in touch.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Thank you, Damon, We appreciate it. Good luck with the documentary.
I can't wait to see you man.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Thank you appreciating it.
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Speaker 1 (33:31):
Our thanks to Ian Rappaport and Damon Stodamaier for joining
us today. Before we get to this Ryan Day story here,
I would like to hear the audio of Iowa Sam
choking on his own words.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
And guys, they kind of had excuse. They kind of
had a drafter.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
I didn't realize it was that bad when it first
gave up.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Well, I'm also told by executive producer Jason there's a
backstory to this. Jason, please come to the microphone and
tell us the backstory to Iowa Sam eating his own words.
Speaker 14 (34:00):
Very interesting backstory, I must add if you're into radio stories,
So if you remember in that segment, Sam was having
a tough one, right, Dan Bayer had beat him to
two sound bites, and he was going through it a
little bit and Stu was giving him a little bit
of razzing, and then he came on the air and
he did that. And then in like thirty or forty seconds,
(34:21):
I had turned around that sound bite and I said, Sam,
I want to play this right now. He has the
ability to pot it up or not. And he denied me.
He allowed me to play it back in real time.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Wows.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, you're up against the break there, so it wasn't
going to make the executive decision. Yeah, just you're a
little late there. So I was like, you know, we
need to get to break, so let's hear it again.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Likes your muscle, Sam.
Speaker 10 (34:44):
And guys they kind of had excuse. They kind of
had a drafter. I mean, come on, hasn't that it
happened to anybody before?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Everyone? Yeah? Every day? Yes?
Speaker 7 (34:52):
All right?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Sam?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Do you have the doc riversafrom the eighties yet or
nineties or whatever?
Speaker 11 (34:58):
H Dan, do you have Edwin had shouldn't have been
back through the process?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
See here? Let me see he doesn't I do the.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Worst part about that experience is if you weren't talking
on a microphone, you would take your time, but maybe
you hit a trash can and spit that thing out instead.
You got to make the immediate decision of oh I
got a swallow this thing and keep going. It's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I get a list of stories and topics before the
show from Taylor. I have one that says Ryan Day says,
if you are not a first or second rounder, Ohio
State isn't for you.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
None of the other stories I have here on.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
The sheet, and there's like fifteen of them have any
sort of commentary in parentheses. This one does. That's from Taylor.
I will root against Ryan Day for as long as
I'm alive.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
He would think of the duke coach or something.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
What is that about? Taylor?
Speaker 9 (35:51):
I am so sick of Ryan Day. Jim Harbaugh said
it best. Where Ryan Day was born on third base.
He inherited one of the best rosters, if not the
best roster in college football at Ohio State. And all
he does is walk around, and he's so pretentious and smug,
thinking he's so good. You're two and four against Michigan,
(36:11):
and to beat Michigan this year, you had a distracted
Sharon More. Now Michigan has winning. Who's the coach at
Michigan Wittingham from Utah?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, weird high, Yeah, weird higher.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
I think I'm just so over Ryan Day, and just
his face annoys me every time I.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Wait a second, because Ryan Day is a very nice man.
I've had him on the show a couple of time.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Dan loves him.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Ryan Day is a guy. Yeah, of course, he walked
around terrified that he was going to lose his job
for years at Ohio State. And so he finally wins
a national championship. He beats Michigan once at least or twice,
two and four against Michigan, and now Ryan Day's feeling
pretty good about himself.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I'm good with that, right Dan, I mean.
Speaker 11 (36:53):
And they could have three guys going the top five picks.
I mean, yeah, gould happen.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
But that's exactly my point. Ryan Day had nothing to
do with that.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
You look at for like six or seven years.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, but the Ohio State brand just recruits itself.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
You look at that draft board, Ohio State two, Ohio
State three, Ohio State five, Ohio State eight.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
And what happened?
Speaker 9 (37:15):
They lost to a Miami team starting a twenty five
year old that quarterback.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
So the comment again from Taylor attached to the story
is I will not root against I'm not root I
will root against Ryan Day for as long as I'm alive.
So quick question for you on the way out, Ryan Day,
straight up for Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
You're doing it today?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah, I found myself