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May 7, 2026 39 mins

Stugotz and company discuss an incident involving Yankees' starter Gerrit Cole. Iconic broadcaster Mike Greenberg joins the show to talk Knicks and other major headlines around sports. Plus, Stu and the guys play "One Table".

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
Let's give this.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Mike Greenberg in about twenty five minutes, looking forward to
that Colin Coward at four forty five.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
I've got an update. What Colin Coward has to postpone.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Get out of here?

Speaker 6 (00:35):
You get ai or I mean busy too?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Does he know the hoops we jump through to a
fill in for him tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (00:42):
We're gonna mess up behavior.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I mean and B. I mean no.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
I don't even know if I'm allowed to say why
he's not allowed on because I just got the text
message and it sounds kind of serious. I hope everybody's
all right. It doesn't involve Colin. It involves Collins transportation
on the way home.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
What.

Speaker 6 (01:00):
I hope everybody's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yeah, you guys are all in the same text message.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
I am as a professional. My alerts are silenced. Let
me see this here.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Hold on, is he okay? For real?

Speaker 6 (01:11):
Is he okay? Is Colin okay? Colin is yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Transportation company might not be okay. Somebody involved in what
is happening here because we just like we turned around
the whole schedule.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
My head hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm exhausted.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I'm tired because we were trying to facilitate the Colin
Cowherd interview and now he's not coming on and we're
filling in for him tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
We're doing his job for him tomorrow. I might cancel.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
I believe the word is postponed.

Speaker 7 (01:43):
Yes, I think we need to do enough of a
bad job that he will never ask us back again.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I mean, I am flying on a bird early in
the morning to get up to Syracuse to host this show.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
Because it's based in Syracuse.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, no, because my daughter is graduating from Syracuse University
this weekend, which is why I'm negotiating with Mike to
Rico for a shorter speech.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
That's ridiculous, is negotiating this one.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
So it's interesting here again, Greenie get enjoined us at
in about twenty minutes here. I can't get away from
the Yankees. I mean, if it's not Taylor, it's mikey A.
If it's not mikey A, it's Taylor. And now it's
Israel gooudy eras of all people, he has been sucked
in to the New York Yankees. What is going on
with you? The Yankees at Garrett Cole.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
Well, it was just it's a little bit of a coincidence.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
Right, the other day, it was either yesterday of the
day before, I was in here, and I was just
sort of mocking Garrett Cole because physically he does not
look like a professional athlete these days, right, And so
you know, in my head, I felt a little guilty
about that. I was like, I probably shouldn't shame him.
But then I watched a clip from I believe yesterday
where he was doing a rehab start and he gave

(02:52):
up a home run. And again a minor league rehab start.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yes, just stop and think about that for a second. Though,
the Yankees are this good without Garrett Cole.

Speaker 7 (03:02):
My least favorite Yankees team ever. I'm just gonna say it.
It's a tailor quote.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, well me too, Yes, something in common.

Speaker 7 (03:08):
And then so he gives up a home run to
a prospect and then the next time up hits the dude,
and it's just like, what.

Speaker 8 (03:17):
Like, is your ego that frail?

Speaker 7 (03:19):
Like this is the whole point of coming and to
a rehab start is to shake off the rust, is
to see what you're doing wrong, you know, maybe correct
the mechanics a little bit, not to be a petulant
child and potentially injure a franchise's prospect. And you know,
you go back to like old Garrett Cole stuff when
he was asked about the what do they call that
spider attack or something like that, they were spider attack

(03:41):
that they weren't allowed to use for grip, and he
was asked about it, and he was just like, I
don't really know how to answer that question. It's like,
it's a pretty simple question, dude.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
It's a yes or a no.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
And by saying it this way, you've obviously already answered
the question.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
I'm just starting to wonder, is he a jerk?

Speaker 8 (03:53):
Do people not like him?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Because so far I do not, Taylor, you would know
best on this front. Do people not like Garret Cole?

Speaker 5 (04:01):
The only people that matter whether or not they like
Garrett Cole or not are Yankee fan Today. Garrett Cole
comes back, right now, what a luxury Garrett Cole would
be on this team where Garrett Cole comes back, most
teams he would be coming back. And it's like, this
guy needs to be an ace. Right, we got an ace.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
They would say their ace is coming back, but your
race is Cam right, Cam Schluttler. And then by the way,
you see what Skens did you have today?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Backs free right there?

Speaker 6 (04:23):
What did you? What did Skeens do?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
He was great?

Speaker 5 (04:25):
I mean, it's still not gonna nine cases.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
Well, I already found an article that confirms everything I
need to know from twenty twenty two. It's the headline,
is I really hate Garrett Cole? Okay, well yeah, the
lead is Garrett Cole is an a hole?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Who wrote it?

Speaker 6 (04:40):
I mean, Garth your gee, your gye?

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Wow?

Speaker 6 (04:45):
So he wrote it.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
So Skens had such a great start, he got his
er down to two point three six, which is still
a lot higher than Cam Schluttler's one point five.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
Two, and they get Garrett Cole back.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
So you're mad at Cole because he's supposed to be
shaking off the Russ and he's not supposed to be
throwing it guys, because he's upset.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 7 (05:06):
Yeah, right, I understand you're upset about giving up the
home run, but it wasn't even the very next batter. Yeah,
Like you can't even calm down enough after an eight
hitters in between that you want to hit him again.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
And it's like, do you want to have like an
internal dialogue where you can.

Speaker 8 (05:22):
Just talk yourself down a little bit?

Speaker 7 (05:24):
Like as a professional athlete, that's something you do every
once in a while, right.

Speaker 8 (05:27):
You get a little heated, calm yourself down.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Right.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
Apparently he's too big for that.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
He's doing a rehab assignment, which is essentially practice, And
if I'm not mistaken, you.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
Practice like you play.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, if you got to hit guys in the game,
you want to make sure you know how.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
To get them.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
He's a gamer. That's the kind of guy I want
on my team. He takes every start seriously. I mean,
he doesn't make many of them because he's injured all
the time, but when he starts, it doesn't matter if
it's a rehab start majors. He takes it seriously. And
you're talking about shaking off all the cobwebs, Okay, talking
about practice.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's practice. Right, Well, he has to practice beating people.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Kobe would have done it.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
I think the bigger problem for Garrett Cole is Garrett
Cole when he gives up this home run, he's having
to eat a little bit of humble pie. Where he's
supposed to be the ace of the Yankees, but instead
he's in single a ball for the Hudson Valley Renegades,
whose mascot is a raccoon.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Yeah, it's just a I love the.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Hudson Valley Renegades too, very close to where I grew up,
Like that was like most kids would go to Yankee games,
I would go to Hudson Valley Renegades games.

Speaker 7 (06:30):
I'll tell you Garrett's eating a lot. It's not humble
pie though other pies.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Why is he blown up?

Speaker 5 (06:41):
It's a very bad angle whatever. Whoever took that picture,
whoever took that picture had something to get after Garrett Cole.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
You're making excuses for a Yankee picture and he's he's
not saying it was a bad angle.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
So it's funny that this story about Garrett Cole is
talking about intentionally hitting somebody, because when we were doing
this segment, last last segment, the think about it Thursday
for Best Press Conferences. Ricardo said, what about the Tommy
Lasorda meltdown? And I said, I don't I'm not as familiar,
so Ricardo cut it up. But this is the padres
Kurt Evaqua accused Tomy Lasorda of telling his picture on

(07:20):
the Dodgers to hit players intentionally, and this was Tommy
Lasorda's response.

Speaker 9 (07:24):
Tell you what I think about it. I think that
was very, very bad for that man to make an
accusation like that.

Speaker 10 (07:32):
That is terrible.

Speaker 9 (07:35):
I have never, ever since i'd managed, ever told a
picture to throw at anybody, nor will I ever, and
if I ever did, I certainly wouldn't make him throw
at a one and thirty hitter like Lefe or Levaqua,
who could hit water if he fell out of a boat.

(07:58):
Had I guart to you this when I pitched and
I was going to pitch against a team that had
guys on it like Faqua, I said a limousine to
get them to make sure he was in the mother
lineup because I kicked that, because they had any day
in a week's mother big mouth.

Speaker 10 (08:17):
I'll tell you that, Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
We have a new winner. I mean the build up
was amazing.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
Yes, I've never heard that clip, but he confirms everything
I've ever heard about Tommylisoda.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
And that's when baseball was baseball. I mean, I gotta
tell you I had.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Hit a one thirty.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
It's a great name, it is a great name.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
He was a fine utility player for many, many years,
uh in Major League baseball. But that sound sounds as
old as Tommy Lasorda. It's unbelievable. I want to hear
it again, think about it.

Speaker 9 (08:53):
I think it was very, very bad for that man
to make an accusation like that.

Speaker 10 (08:57):
That is terrible.

Speaker 9 (09:00):
I have never, ever since I had managed, ever told
a pitcher to throw it anybody, nor will I ever,
and if I ever did, I certainly wouldn't make him
throw at a one and thirty hitter like Lefe Orvaqua,
who could hit water if he fell out of a boat.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
And I guarant to you this.

Speaker 9 (09:26):
When I pitched and I was going to pitch against
a team that had guys on it like the Baqua,
I sent a limousine to get there to make sure
he was in the mother lneup because I kicked that
because they had any day in a week. He's a
mother big mouth. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Shaking is at a discust, I mean, not discussed, and
it's just confirmation.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
Like I said, while you're saying right, no.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
For comedic timing. Though the name of Aqua, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Taylor, you nailed. You were nervous headed into that name.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
I could tell. It's like a speed bump.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
You slowed down a little bit when you when you
first pronouncequa.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, Well now you got it.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yes, But the first Notre Dame's athletic director's name is
Bavoqua too. I think I think Bavoqua one of the
best last names you could have.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Help was cutting it up.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
I was never seted into that name. Is He did
show me a picture of Garrett call.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
He is right. It's not humble pie.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
It's apple pie. It's so much pie. It's all just
right in the mid section too.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Camera adds ten pounds.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
How many cameras were.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
On It's my ace, my thirties.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Right, thirties right.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
The luxuries you have on that seam and the fact
that you did say this is your least yan favorite
Yankee team of all time is absurd. I'm not certain
we should allow him to root for the Yankees the
rest of the way.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Now, come on, I'm watching every game. We also have
Carlos Rodan coming back on on the IL two. But Stu, Actually,
the Yankees are plus eighty one in run differential this season, yes,
dominating The rest of the American League combined is minus
one sixty four.

Speaker 7 (11:05):
Jesus, he's gonna he's gonna find a way to love
this team by the end of the season.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
If they're holding a World Series that's about the only way.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Really, what if they make it to the World Series,
I mean they've been there before.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
This this team we need, we need some urgency. They
they have shown. I will give them credits. Since I
said this is my least favorite team, they have shown
more signs of urgency, the biggest one being Anthony Volpi
coming back from the IL list. And normally the Yankees
of the past would have just inserted Volpi back into
the lineup. Yeah, this Yankee said, hey, Volpi, you're staying

(11:38):
in the miners. Caballero is doing way too good of
a job at shortstop.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Right, we have we have too much talent here, go
to the miners, right.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
I honestly can't believe that our next guest was sitting
court side at a next playoff.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
He was the biggest story in sports last night. He was.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
There was two NBA games and two hockey playoff games
going on, and somehow Mike Greenberg was the biggest story
in sports, merely because he was sitting courtside, and everyone's like, huh.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
To catch live editions of Stu Godson Company Live weekdaycent
three pm Eastern, twelve pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Nicks are up two to nothing on Philadelphia. I thought
it was interesting last night. Is he a very desperate
team in San Antonio trying to prevent themselves from going
down two in that series? Big Game two, pivotal, Yes,
they get it back to one one. Wemby looked a
lot better that team. I think what's going to surprise
people is just how good the surrounding cast is for Wemby.

(12:31):
Like he has landed with a great organization, obviously, but
those ancillary players around him are really good players. And
the Spurs are now one to one, and the Spurs
are the only thing that could save us and the
Knicks from Oklahoma City in the finals.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
You know, there's some people who don't love the Spurs
as well, but you're so right about the people around them,
because you've got Daron Fox, who you remember how big
of a get that was at the deadline last year.
Almost feels like an afterthought, like you're like, oh, yeah,
he's that good.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Right.

Speaker 7 (13:00):
But there was a player on the team yesterday that
did something I don't think anybody has ever seen before.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
You've heard of a catch and shoot three.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Right well, Devin vill Vassel, Devin Vassel, Tomato, Tomato fsu legend.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
Okay, he hit a shooting catch three like he was
already in the air in his shooting motion when the
ball hit his hands and then it went to It's
basically like an alleyup jumper because he was already in position.
No dip on the shot, just absolutely catch it in
your in your shooting pocket, I suppose, and then just

(13:36):
get rid of it and goes and it's just like
you've got kids all guarantee you in YMCA's all over
the country today trying that no dip, shoot and catch three,
because it's the wildest shot I think I've seen since
some of the stuff that Steph Curry does.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Did he not realize how much time he actually had
because he didn't.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
Need to do that, did he?

Speaker 7 (13:54):
Because to be honest, I watched the replay without any sound,
so I thought I thought the shot clock was.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
Was going it was going to be very close.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
Okay it was, or he was just showing off because
I mean, if I had the ability to do that,
I know that wouldn't be the first time he's tried that, right,
So he's probably thinking, we've got this game in the bag.
Let me just try this alley oop jumper real quick
and then show it off. And that just goes to
show you there's the skill level in this league has
gotten out of control.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
But yes, there are a lot of good players around Wimby.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
So when the ball hits his hand, there's about zero
point seven on the shot clock, which it's going to be.
It's gonna be a bang bang player no matter what.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
It's going to be, right.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
And so if in his mind, you know, you're probably
assuming a little little less time than that, Yeah, I would.
I would think that getting up in that motion saved
him potentially about a half a second.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Why were so many people surprised that Mike Greenberg was
sitting courtside at Matson Square Garden last night? It's like
I got more text about that he's going to join
us here in a couple of minutes.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
But why were people so shocked by that? I mean
it's Greeny.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Oh well, I mean it's it's msg And if you
talk about the one percenters like at a sports event,
it's going to be the people touching wood at ms
like that is. And so you got you got to figure, okay,
cost would be through the roof. And I'm not saying Mikey,
Mike Greenberg wouldn't be able to afford that, But he
doesn't seem like the guy that's throwing away that type

(15:13):
of money on a singular game or.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
The person that the Knicks are dying to invite to
again correct.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
And so does he fit either of those categories?

Speaker 7 (15:20):
I think as a journalist, I don't think the Knicks
are dying to invite any journalists to the game.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
So you're saying Greene has the money, but he's not
willing to spend the money on something like that.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
I think I'm with you on that.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
I just know what we've seen historically. You know, it's
not like he's out there flaunting.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Right, But did you get more text about Mike Greenberg
being court side than you did about the actual NBA
games being played, because I did, Yeah, yeah, yeah, one
versus nothing. It's weird, but we care about Wait, Taylor,
how does it work court side at MSG? Because I
want to get there one day? How does it work
to they got killed? Listen if I go, you go okay, wow,

(15:58):
yeah they sold.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Who's gonna sit court side?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
No one's paying for those seats, no one has season
tickets court side?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
How does that work?

Speaker 5 (16:05):
I think there's some give and take where it's like,
we invite you to the game as our guests, but
then you appear on our social media, as you appear
on the jumbo tron. It's kind of you scratch our back,
We scratch your back. So what we need is why
the Knicks need to scratch your back?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Right?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, besides the two decades of terrible basketball, and.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
We got it.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
We got some kind of platform here where we could talk. Next,
I'm gonna talk Knicks no matter what, but we can
talk Knicks even more.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
You want to talk our way to courtside seats?

Speaker 6 (16:34):
I mean, is that? Who let's to do it?

Speaker 7 (16:36):
Whoever made Timothy Shalome's jacket from last night? Yeah, they
deserve to pay the Knicks because there's gonna be a
lot of people wondering who made.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
That jacket, because that was a dope jacket.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Listen, you guys want to talk Ariel huck Porty, I'm
ready to talk of it was more like hack Porty yesterday,
four thousand and six minutes.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I think we need to find the bigger celebrity to
kind of partner with to get ourselves. I don't think, listen,
the platform is great. I don't think there's anything we
could say Taylor, me and you. Well, we're sitting courtside
for a knixt playoff game. I just I can't. I
can't imagine it happened.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
I think what we have to do. I think we've
already missed the window on this playoffs, if we're being
completely honest, right, I think we have to look next
year and look at like a a midweek game against
like the Grizzlies preseason in November, and I think that's
the bar we gotta go for.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
So preseason Wednesday, Yes, Barlow, Yes, a joke made from
the podcast.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
I believe I'm gonna I'm just not learning who Ariel
hook Porty is because I did not have that game
on it.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I love that we're all so tired and exhausted, and
we do we do hope that Colin's okay, Okay, whatever happened,
we do hope that he's okay, But we're also tired
and exhausted because we're doing so much that the podcast
are starting to bleed into the radio show without any
explanation whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean, it's my dream.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Let's let's kick it over to Dan Byer, he has
an update, and then the man of the night, Mike
Greenberg couldna join us afterwards.

Speaker 11 (18:05):
Not to be a Debbie downer, but I will say
I went to a Knicks game between the lebron you know,
two stays in Cleveland during Super Bowl week and Phil
Collins was sitting courtside. And this was against the Knicks,
against that bad calvs.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Team guy.

Speaker 11 (18:19):
So I don't know if Phil Collins is going to
that game. That's a pretty high bar.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Anyway, Yes, there must have been something in the air.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It wasn't points for the Cavaliers, I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 9 (18:31):
Nick.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Did you have to look that song up? Did come on?

Speaker 6 (18:37):
The good thing with those court side guys?

Speaker 11 (18:39):
No jacket required, none, that would make go over some
people's heads.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
He is the host of Get Up the Great Mike
Greenberg is with us. He was court side at the
Knicks game last night. I was insanely jealous Greene court side.
I mean, just wait, listen. You know how much I
admire you, but last night and how jealous I am
if you're broadcasting skills, because you're excellent at this, But
last night was the most insanely jealous I've been of

(19:05):
the flicks ever in my entire life with anyone. So
how'd you land the court side seats?

Speaker 10 (19:11):
I will tell you exactly I was sitting. If you
want to know the gods on this truth. Yes, I
was getting a manicure the other day, as I do weekly,
which should come as no surprise. Yes, And I got
it text from my old boss, Mark Shapiro, who now
runs WMA and remains a friend. And he texts me

(19:34):
and he says that his son, so he raised his
family in the same town in Connecticut that I did.
So we've known each other socially outside of the work
piece of it for a very long time, and our
families know each other. And he told me that one
of their boys is graduating from college this weekend, and
it's just sort of too much going on, so he
can't go to the game Wednesday night. Do I want

(19:56):
two seats for the game Wednesday night? And so I
wrote him back, just so we're clear, do you mean
your seats? Because otherwise I would have been very happy
to watch it on my couch as I usually do. Right,
but those are seats. No one is turning down. And
I know where his seats are because I see him
sitting there at every game. We play a fun game

(20:17):
called who does Mark have with him at the game tonight?
Whenever we watch a Nick game. And so he said, yes,
that's what I mean. I said, well, ok, then I'm in.
So my daughter is I mean, my son is away
and my wife is away. So my daughter got the
invite and so she and I went and we had
a very very good time. It was one of the
great street cred Dad Knights and the history of Dad Knights.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
We're talking about Jayleen Brunston in the historical context here,
and I'm wondering, is he already not necessarily have a
better career than but at his peak, which is let's
say right now, is he better than Isaiah Thomas was no, no, right.

Speaker 10 (20:58):
And I'm going to say no based upon my own
fully acknowledged bias for the things that happened in my
life when I was younger. So I that person. So
I was one who would have argued, or did argue
in fact on the air many times, argued that of
all the little men, so of all the players you

(21:19):
would have considered the small guards. So whether that's Nate
Archibald and Isaiah and whoever is going to Mark Price
and Alan Iverson, would would usually was the one that
would get you the biggest argument, and everybody else the
guys that you just sort of think of as smaller
players that I would have always started with Steve Nash,

(21:41):
who won two MVPs, I always said I would take
Isaiah first.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I said.

Speaker 10 (21:47):
My standard line was, I'll start my team with Isaiah.
You take any of the other ones you want, and
my team will beat your team. Now that has been
amended now because Steph Curry has replaced him. Steph Curry
is if you're going to put him in that category,
he's surpassed Isaiah and almost everybody else who ever played.
Is Jalen Brunson a better all around player than Isaiah Thomas.

(22:07):
I'm going to say no, but a lot of that
is because I glorify things that happened in a different era.
The game was so different it's almost impossible to You
can't almost you almost can't compare the stuff that Jalen
Brunson does you could never have done in the NBA
in the mid eighties and the late eighties, in the

(22:29):
early nineties, when Isaiah Thomas was dominating the teams that
Isaiah Thomas played, the teams that he was trying to
get through, the Larry Bird Celtics, the Magic Johnson Lakers,
and then ultimately beating, beating, beating, and then losing to
the Michael Jordan Bulls. You're talking about three of maybe
the five greatest dynasties in the history of the NBA,
and Isaiah was by far the best player on a

(22:51):
team that stood toe to toe with all of them.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
I asked that in part because Isaiah's I feel like
he's underrated historically.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
Like even the year that he averaged twenty one and fourteen,
which would.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
Have gotten Steve Nash two MVPs, finished ninth in the
MVP race.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
That year Isaiah did the league.

Speaker 10 (23:06):
Was just different then. I mean, you know he was,
it was just in a different league. So I'm going
to say no, and I will fully acknowledge that may
have a lot. What's the opposite of recency bias? I
guess whatever, Whatever that bias is, I have.

Speaker 6 (23:20):
Mad dog Russo bias.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yes, exactly right.

Speaker 10 (23:23):
Greedy dog would not know, yes, but you could if
you then said Isaiah Thomas or Bob Cousy have a
sandwich because Chris is going to give you forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yes, of course, Greeny, So help me out with this.
I love what the Jets have done here, uh, with
the draft and in the off season because I love
it so much, Does that mean this is going to
be the worst off season the Jets have ever had?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I mean, what do you think?

Speaker 10 (23:50):
Well, I mean, here's the thing. April is our time.
You know, we've won a lot of April's.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
I actually had a debate with my afore mentioned son
about which draft we thought was better, this one or
the one four years ago when we were having the
same thought when the Jets drafted Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson,
Jermaine Johnson, and then at the beginning of the second round,
Breeze Hall, how much better can you do than that?
Like sass Gardner they traded is a good enough player.

(24:22):
We can debate just how good he is. He obviously
turns out to be a very good player, and good
enough that you were able to trade him for two
number ones. Garrett Wilson, if he had a human being
playing quarterback, would be considered among the best wide receivers
in the NFL. Jermaine Johnson unfortunately toy's achilles, but is
a terrific pass rusher and hopefully will continue to be.

(24:44):
And Breeze Hall is a genuinely great running back. If
he was in a competent franchise for the first four
years of his career, we'd be talking about him among
the best running backs in the NFL. And I still
can't believe Kansas City didn't trade for him last year.
So that was a great draft. And it amounted to
absolutely nothing. Whatever is less than nothing. If you were

(25:06):
to calculate what it amounted to, the answer would be
a negative number. So the Jets have been the worst
team in the NFL since they made that draft. So
is there any reason to think that this will be different?
I don't know. I think we in hope. I think
this Muji seems to know what he's doing. That I
like the way he has maneuvered. I think Geno Smith,

(25:29):
from everything I've heard from people, is that no quarterback
alive could have survived the abject dysfunction of the Raiders
last year. That the coaching was so bad, the situation
was so bad, the stories, the whispers slash not so
much whispers that you hear coming out of there, about
just how completely terrible everything was. I think it made

(25:52):
Geno Smith look as though he was completely washed, which
hopefully he isn't. Hopefully he is capable of being what
he has been brought there to be, which is a
legitimate NFL starting quarterback. No one is expecting him to
be a top ten quarterback, but someone who can actually
play the position well enough that a young and hopefully

(26:16):
growing offensive line and some new players, two good tight
ends that were high draft picks, a couple of receivers
that were very high draft picks, including Omar Cooper that
everyone's excited about in Brees Hall. That Geno can sort
of start to put together what this thing might eventually
look like, and you know, or Alowski said he thinks
that the Jets are building a team that is going

(26:38):
to be very attractive to whoever they draft next year.
And it's no secret they have three first round picks,
so they can maneuver around in a draft that at
least as of this moment, figures to have a bunch
of good quarterbacks in it. We've seen that not materialized before,
but let's assume or hope that it does. So if
you wanted me to write down on a piece of

(26:58):
paper a bunch of reasons why things couldn't turn around,
that's what they are. But the Jet fan is sort
of conditioned to expect none of those things to go right. Yes,
and maybe they won't, so it's the ultimate weight and see.
But they seem to have gotten a lot right as off.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
We've been waiting to see for so long. Go ahead, Mike.

Speaker 8 (27:20):
Greedy.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
To that end, one of my favorite debates to have
with all my family, all the Jet fans I know,
is what do you realistically want from this season for
the Jets? Because there are those that are going I
hope they don't win a game and we look at
a Manning or there are some that go no, I
would love to make the wild card with this team.
What is it you realistically want competence team?

Speaker 10 (27:42):
Yeah, I mean I would love the second of those
two things, but that's probably asking too much. But I
want them to be as good as they can be.
I'm sick to death of the well, let's get a
high draft. I mean, you're not the chances that were
they're going to wind up getting. There's only one Arch Manning,
and maybe Arch Manning turns out to be one of

(28:03):
his uncles. But it's infinitely premature to expect that the
Jets need to start to build a culture of something
besides being a laughing stock. And the Jets are a
joke sometimes it feels like, and Jet fams sometimes get
mad at me for saying this publicly, but I know
that in their own heart of hearts, they know it's true.

(28:24):
The Jets are like a punchline. Sometimes it feels like
there are thirty one teams and the Jets and they
need that to stop. So whatever stops that. I would
love Aaron Glenn to prove me wrong, which is that
in my head, I do not have high expectations for him.
I thought he was an absolute disaster last year, and
I am very, very concerned that he's not the right

(28:46):
person to lead them into whatever success we hope they're
soon to have. I hope to God I'm wrong. I
would love for him to prove me wrong. I would
love for this young cores of good young players to
start gelling into something that looks like a good team
and looks like they're a year away. Like someone said
to me last year, we're a year away from being

(29:06):
a year away. Well now maybe we could just be
a year away. Yeah, that would jet standards. That would
be an enormous improvement. So that's what I'm rooting. I've
seen enough of two and fifteen.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
There's no funding it an actual year away, because we've
been a year away my entire life.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Greeny, the show Get Up.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's amazing eight to ten am Eastern every day on ESPN.
When you started the show, I feel like, Greenie, tell
me if I'm wrong, and I'll let you go. On
this note, I feel like you have just arrived at
where you envision this show to be from the get go,
like it took a minute. Everything does. All these shows
take a little bit. But the show is so fantastic.
It is fast paced. You are surrounded with great guests
and great people who come in on a weekly basis,

(29:43):
And I feel like you were just hitting your stride
with that show. I know it sounds crazy, you've been
doing it for a while, but I think the way
you intended that show to be, we are now all
seeing what that vision was.

Speaker 10 (29:55):
Thank you. Yeah, I mean I think likesion.

Speaker 8 (29:59):
The vision.

Speaker 10 (30:01):
Adapts, you know, like since the time we launched that show,
our business has gone through the equivalent of the Industrial
Revolution like three times.

Speaker 9 (30:12):
Right.

Speaker 10 (30:13):
The Industrial Revolution itself took one hundred years. Nowadays we
go through the technological version of an industrial revolution like
every two years. So, like, what your audience wants, what
they expect, what they're demanding, how they're consuming, what you're doing,
where they're seeing you, how they're seeing you, when they're
seeing you, All that has changed. So I feel like

(30:37):
it has just been a never ending evolution of trying
to keep up. Like I think that's the trick of
it in our business now, in all elements of it,
and yours and mine and everything that all of us
are doing is making sure that wherever it goes next,
we're there and we're positioned for it. And I think
by and large, ESPN has done an extremely good job

(31:00):
of that in general, and then each individual, all of
the individual ones of us, have to figure out our
way to do our own pieces of it. But like
if you think about it, when I started out and
that you and I are almost the same age, Like
when we started out in radio, there was no Internet,
Like the Internet didn't exist, So I mean, stop and

(31:23):
think about that. I used to give out two phone
numbers when I was hosting talk shows in Chicago. One
of them was to tell the call in line. The
other was a fax number, and people fax us their
opinions and we'd have someone run in the other room
and rip off the faxes and we'd read them on
the air. Think about that during one person's career. I'm
not talking about Edward R. Murrow. This was me, for

(31:46):
crying out loud. I'm not that old, so when I'm
trying that's a long way of saying I appreciate the
nice thought. I think what's happened is what I initially
envisioned it to be. Probably wouldn't work in you know,
like you've had to get follow to keep up with
what's going. And I think we've done a very good

(32:07):
job of that, but I would guess if I'm still
doing the show, like the show right now is probably
very different, more than I realized because we do it
every day, but it's probably very different than it was
two years ago. And I would guess two years from
now it's going to be completely different in the ways.

Speaker 7 (32:21):
That I can't really It sounds like what you're saying
is you might want to change the show from get
up to keep up.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
I mean, but that's what you're doing, yes, trying to do.

Speaker 10 (32:29):
We're just trying to keep all of us right, Yes,
particularly at our age and our stage of our careers,
Like we're all going to get replaced eventually by these
kids that we have graduating from college. So we're just
going to hang on as long as we can.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
Yeap.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
By the way, I saw you with the Miz this
morning again, and let me tell you that's a guy greedy.
You never want a golf with that guy. I have
golf with that guy. No, I am telling you good
at that too. It was a five hour round of
golf at Lake Tahoe, and four of the hours was
spent watching Miz set up for every shot.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
I mean, it's.

Speaker 10 (33:03):
The human raindel.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Greedy we appreciate. We appreciate it. Don't play golf with them. Okay,
you didn't make a da jacob.

Speaker 10 (33:12):
To earlier this week threatened to throw me through a table. Right,
it's a really strange week.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
You were court side last. It's a great week, Greedy.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
We appreciate the time.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Check them out get up eight to ten am every
morning on ESPN. Hopefully the NIXT will pull this off, Greedy,
We do appreciate it. Thank you for being there for.

Speaker 10 (33:32):
Us to see you boys.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
Thanks all right, thank you.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
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Speaker 6 (34:08):
Hawkman, What happened there I had. I had a little
throat situation, frog of the throat, one of those Yeah, yeah,
I tried to be professional about it.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
We were supposed to have Colin Coward here. I'm sorry
for pointing it out, isn't it? Hopefully, but we all
noticed we were supposed to have Colin Coward here. He
has transportation issues. We hope that he's okay, I'm being serious.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
Fine, yes, but.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
We'll be filling in for him tomorrow, unfortunately for Colin,
so you could expect this tomorrow on Colin Cowhard show.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
A little game we like to call one table.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
There's one table left at the hottest spot in town,
and everybody wants it. Who's getting it and who's getting left? Outside?
Greatness gets seated, everyone else waits, This is one table.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
Did we tell him to sound like that?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I think with what a jackass?

Speaker 5 (35:07):
I think the requests that sound pretentious? Yes, and he
nailed it. They did nail it. Yes, they deserve a raise.
I means, whose voice is it?

Speaker 6 (35:19):
I have no no idea, the big voice, pot, big
voice pop. Sorry, I'm sorry for yelling at I'm teller. Anyway,
Go ahead, Taylor, set it up. Set the table.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
So for people who aren't familiar, there's one table at
the hottest restaurant. Two people walk in, we have to
decide who gets the table. Yes, Stu Gotts. This one
is in Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
Pat McAfee walks in. Wow, and the sheriff Peyton Manning
walks in. Who's getting that table?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
McAfee, man Manny, Peyton Manning.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
McAfee built his show in Indianapolis.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
He does have a lot of Indianapolis based guest Tyre's
Halliburton's there all the time.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, he played there.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I'm gonna say McAfee, I feel like I mean Manning
was a disappointment in Indianapolis. He was and they were
them a super Bowl, Yeah, but they were expecting six.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
They only got one. And then he won one in Denver.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
I mean, is he bringing his son Marshall because that
guy's a star. Have you guys seen Marshall Manning. No,
he's got all of his father's Mike Marshall man It's
amazing Marshall man I have to.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Be honest him now, I thought he was talking about
Marshall McAfee.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
No, Marshall Manning. He's got all of his dad's mannerisms.
He looks exactly like a high school version of Peyton Manning.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Stu gotts if I told you, in a weird world
the Jets could forego all three of their first round
draft picks next year to draft Marshall Manning.

Speaker 10 (36:43):
Yes, a decade from now, when he's.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Out done Deil yep, I would right right right the second.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
He's only fifteen right now. What's his name, Marshall Manning Marshall,
and it is a great name.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
The sheriff gave her Marshall.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, definitely, he did. Like he did it for that reason,
and he named them Marshall us Marshall.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
I think you named him after Eminem.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
We need to find out if he had the nickname
sheriff before or after he named that kid. You know,
it's a odd thing to want to find out.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
I think Peyton gets that table easily. Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
You tell Bob Blow to get on it.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
He said, anytime you say the word finds out now
it's just synonymous with paba. So we were kind of
split there. Let's try to find more consensus on this
next one. Yeah, this table's in Philadelphia. Brian Dawkins walks
in and then Alan Iverson walks in.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Wow, So I think the easy I think people are
thinking that's easy.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
It's Iverson.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
But Brian Dawkins, it's an Eagles town.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
It's an Eagles town, football town. They love the Eagles.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
There.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Dawkins is he represents everything that city loves from a
football standpoint, So it's not as easy, and Iversly never won.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
Everson also ended his his career with the Nuggets and Memphis.
I believe Brian Dawkins also ended his career in Denver,
but he spent more time in Philly.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
Yeah, I'm saying Iverson.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, I'm saying Iverson to I feel like it's.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Pretty because you walk into the restaurant, You're like, hey,
there's Iverson.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
You walk into the restaurant.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
You could guess for you know, till the end of time,
until you get the Brian Dawkins.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
You know.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Okay, so they just sat Iverson down, But what who's
that walking in?

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Jaws get the table?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yes, Iverson gets up.

Speaker 7 (38:32):
Out of respect, Roski or Brian Dawkins gets the other
available table.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
That's a difficult question.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
So let's say let's say Iverson gets up, Jaws sits down. Yes,
Oh my god, this restaurant. People just keep walking in
South Palatonio, just walking.

Speaker 8 (38:48):
Get the table.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
Wait, so get up.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Jaws is sitting and South Pals now walked in Ara.
This is amazing.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
So sath pallor Jaws Jaws gets up for South pal
he does.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yes, everybody gets up for sp Yes right, yes, yes.
If you don't, you might end up in a river.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
I mean, Salthpal doesn't even like look over his newspaper.
He walks in newspaper in front of him and just
walks straight to the table.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
And then Rocky Bobo walks in. He says, Salthpal's here.
You've got to find a new restaurant.
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