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Radio, Let's get to the weekend observations.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Is he is out today?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Mikey A, they're all yours? Sorry, Mikey, what'd you say?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I said?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I was a little nervous.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I was surprised to see him still on the same
team that drafted him. He was drafted because of potential,
because of that arm, because of the athleticism, because of
what he could be, not what he was. Then the
struggles came, the turnovers, the injuries, and of course the
(01:10):
time he had the audacity to tap himself out of
a game because he was too tired. He lost his
starting job and people started to say he was a bust.
And then just when everyone had moved on, he goes
eleven of fourteen for one hundred and forty five yards,
another fifty three yards on the ground and a Tuddy
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and Mikey just like that. Make no mistake about it.
Anthony Richardson is back.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Two turnovers?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Eh, I was gonna say, did he also throw a pick?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Doesn't help the argument ut fumbled inside the red zone?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, you can't put those things in there though their plummages.
He's back, He is back, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
There should be a stat for when a wide receiver
causes the interception.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
To be fair to Anthony Richardson, that interception was not
on him.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You like the idea of that kind of stat idea.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
I want Taylor to be the one that decides the
NFL college football. They just send him a bunch of
tape of interceptions.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Does go quarterback? Quarterback? Wide receiver? Quarterback? Quarterback?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Taylor put it on the poll.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Should there be a stat for what a wide receiver
causes the interception? It's a good idea. Jackson Dart lives
in the Blue Tent. If you want to send Jackson
Dart mail, just address it to the Blue Tent.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
No stamp necessary. The mailman will know.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I think it's stamp is still necessary.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I'm not certain John Harbaugh treats the preseason like it's
his super Bowl. Preseason football should have a champion and
name it the Horbor Trophy.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Horrball.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Oh wow, put it on the Paul Taylor. Should preseason
football have a champion? And should that champion receive something
called the Harbor Trophy?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Horrball? And I had Ty Simpson as the MVP of
the preseason so far.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Wow over Richardson, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
A good point.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
He's back.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It was unfortunately that Haines King sat out Week two
because he was the front runner for m V.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Thanks King, that guy looks good man preseason.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I woke up actually and I texted somebody Haines King
plays football today, and then they text me back, No,
he actually got hurt in that Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah. Why'd you have to put to his last name here?
I mean, I don't know how to pronounce it. No
one does perfect star for him though.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I mean, you tell yourself the entire offseason, just don't
fumble the first man.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Tua Michael Pennix.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No matter who wins that quarterback battle, the real loser
will be Atlanta Fans. True good team, bad quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Mikey. You know what they say about having two quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
If you have two, you don't have any.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
If you have tua, you have none.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I should have seen that coming.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
If you looked up having tua quarterbacks in the dictionary,
you'd see a picture of Tua and Michael Pennix, Mikey.
You know what the tea and tua stands for two
A quarterbacks? Too many quarterbacks. I should have went to
her there. You wanted me to sink into it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I do you know what the you know what? The
tea and Mitchell Trubisky stands for too many quarterbacks, Tennessee Titan.
He's a Tennessee Titan.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
No idea, no idea.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So is Wandelle Robinson?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
That one I knew.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Really wondy that what I do? M Drew Aller, Hm
fair that's it?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, here's something to ponder. If Lafleur says Love is
going to be out for a couple of weeks, do
you think Packers would Jordan Love or Cardinals with Jeremiah Love.
A couple of Lafleur's and a couple of loves cutting
it up. No need to discuss now, just stash it
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away for a rainy day. What a ridiculous thing to
discuss on any day. I don't care if it's sunny out.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You know what those Lafloors have, right, oh, lout of
love and no rings.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Love is all you need sometimes.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Though, put it on the pole. His love all you
need sometimes though.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
In Arizona's case, they probably need a lot more, but.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Probably probably need an offensive line to go with it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I've already accepted that the Cardinals will waste the first
four years of Jeremiah Love's career.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
That guy.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
The Cardinals' top four draft picks are all currently out
with injuries. Mikey, you know what the See and Cardinals
stands for. It stands for cursed, cursed. I'm sorry I
didn't let you finish because I didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Think you had it. Sorry I didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Tyrod Taylor, Green Bay Packer, Trey Lance Charger.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Second year there, Hey look good?
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yeah, but I mean he played.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
He did play well, Mike McDaniel, that's what he does.
Apparently what the D and.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Joshua Dobbs stands for, Mikey Dolphin Detroit Lion.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Dang. This is why I love the preseason. I find
out where everyone signed Panthers bills.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
A matchup between Buffalo and the city, all of its
fans moved to Charlotte, Buffalo of the South. Taylor put
it on the poll. Is Charlotte the Buffalo of the South?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
They do call that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
People.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I want that on the billboard.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
When you enter Charlotte's there's a sign that says, welcome
to Buffalo of the South.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Right, welcome to Charlotte, the Buffalo of the South. Rack.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yes, Panther starters six plays, fourteen yards, zero first downs,
working out the kinks.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's what the preseason is for.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, Bryce Young, now we're never year. I think it
is Sidney.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Didney kind of win his own Super Bowl last year
by by almost beating the Rams?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Put it on the pole.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Did Bryce Young win his own personal Super Bowl last
year by almost beating the Rams?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Von Miller to the Cowboys, not news. Von Miller still
in the NFL news sneaky nine sacks last season? VN,
I mean path around. Yeah, there's nobody. Uh, there's nobody's
music opinion. I don't know what happened there. Sorry about that.
There is nobody's music opinion. I care about less than
(08:51):
Dan Orlofsky's.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, come on. What are you doing there?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I didn't do anything. You did it?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Just snorted?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's how hard I was laughing.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
What did I do? I read it?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Do you have any more thoughts about.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
If I was a musician, I go out of my
way to make sure dan Orlovsky didn't endorse my music.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Why do you have me saying these things about dan Orlovsky?
Speaker 7 (09:23):
McAfee album doozyz.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Red Sox announcer Tom Karen saying, and I had to
pause here. Masataka Yoshida is going on the il but
accidentally calling him dice k.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I can't pronounce that name. How do you that's his
real name?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Taylor, try it, Matsuzaka, I nailed it, dangerous game, dice Cat.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The Hornets acquired Dennis Schroder this weekend.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Those are the kind of moves that get you from
playing in the play in to playing in the play in.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Aaron Donald, be the higher se Aaron Donald, we get it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You're coming back enough already.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You know Sam Howell Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Oh he's handsome.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Though.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I hope I saw this correctly. Zach Wilson, Saint, how
about that.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
You did see correctly? Because I saw a headline that said,
Zach Wilson will be happy to be the Saint's backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Davis Mills is still and always will be a Texan.
What a floating Last year, when Kyle Schwarber hit a
leadoff home run in the Field of Dreams game, I
turned to Abbey and I said, that's baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I'm still waiting for a response.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
There shouldn't be a fence in the Field of Dreams game,
just a cornfield.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
What are we doing with the fence?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Great?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I mean when Shoe was Joe walked out of the cornfield,
he didn't have to climb a fence to get onto
the field.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I mean that would have been funny. Though trying to
climb over the fence, he gets his leg caught.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
A bunch of roadblocks after he gets through the corn It.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Should be like the ivy at Wrigley, where if it
goes in the cornfield, you just put your hands up
ground world double.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I know, home runs no, No, if.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
It clears the the corn it's a home run. Yes,
if it clears the top ear yep.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Instead of saying the Dodgers ruined baseball for signing Kyle Tucker,
we should be thanking them for signing Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
He's terrible, He's been awful and it doesn't even matter, right,
it doesn't matter that they pay him sixty million a
year and he could be their eight hitter.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
What do they care? Tarrek Scooble, Did I say it right?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Do it on the Dodgers, then do it in the postseason.
Then do it on the Tigers. Dodgers overrated Scottie Scheffler.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Do it in a major?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
What Arsenal beating Manchester three to nothing in the FA
Community Shield? The match says it was played in Cardiff?
What it was really played behind the woodshed?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Tuck to what's an FA Community Shield? Yeah? What is that? Arsenal?
Do it in the Champions League?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Why are we letting a uniform and helmet getting between
my eyes?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And Sam Hartman?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Mikey, did you think Sam Hartman was Sam Howell before?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Maybe? Yes?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I was gonna say thought that, yeah, Sam Howe, Sam
Sam Howe.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Maybe Sam Howe's a good looking guy. I couldn't pick
him out of a lineup, Sam Hartman.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I know, is you don't really think Sam Howell traditionally beautiful?
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Sam Howell looks like he would be in a lineup
Sam Hartman would never.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Is that fair?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
You don't need a lineup for Sam Hartman. You say
Sam Hartman did it?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
No, you see Sam Hartman, You say that Sam Hartman period.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Anyway, Cardinals Joshua Biez hitting three home runs in his
first three Major league at bets.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Now that's a debut, really is.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Joshua Biez should have retired after that game.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's all downhill from there. Put it on the ball tailer.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Should Joshua Bayez have retired after his third at bat?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Probably goes right into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
The Orioles sold it the deadline and they're now closer
to the wild card than they were then. You know
what they're doing, Mikey. They're having a cake and they're
eating it too.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
How about that Adlee Rushman is batting oh fifty nine,
it's being traded to the Boston Red Sox, Mikey, You
know what the being Boston Red Sox stands for bad
at bats buyers remorse.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It just came to you.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You're like, oh, Yankees lead the league in games that
are zero zero going into the sixth inning.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
It's every game. It's just a disgusting brand of baseball
from their offense. Pitching is unbelievable, but their their offense,
it's yeahs as few competitive at bats as I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I mean, you don't want technically the bats to wake
up until the postseason, right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Don't worry, they don't plan on it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Hey, New York Yankees, a shortstop shouldn't be wearing number
ninety six.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Agree?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Totally defensive lineman only Andy Dalton Philadelphia Eagle. But that
red rifle.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, Marquez Valdez Scantling mvs. Dallas Cowboy still in the league. Okay,
tip of the cap to Tommy John, the rare athlete
whose surgery became more famous than he ever was. True,
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Tommy John first ballot Hall of pretty Good.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I think he was.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I mean he's very good.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Picture ballot Hall of Arm problems, I mean he passed away. Guys,
what kind of tribute is this?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
No haul pretty good?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I know, But you're saying his surgery is more famous
than he was, And you're right.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
That sounded that's some question. Yeah, nobody knows. Tommy John
almost won three hundred games, two hundred and eighty eight wins.
Everybody knows the surgery.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
If the surgery was laid to rest over the weekend
and we'd get more buzz, right.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I'm just saying, in a weird, strange world.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I think Tommy would want it. You can carry on.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Scottie Scheffler left no doubt.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Cristiano Ronaldo saying he'll probably retire after this season.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Christiano the Dan Patrick is strong in. You can make
up your minds. He's not retiring, by the way, Ronaldo.
I don't know about DP yet.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I believe we'll see. Reese Hall is already hurt.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I hate them. You know what the H and Hall
stands for. Mikey hurt, hate and Hell. Speaking of Hell,
arp Riles, Mikey.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Those are the we ken observations.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
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Speaker 1 (17:36):
Jason Hare is the director of a new film. I'm
excited about this. It's out on Prime The Wolf of Winter,
about Novak Djokovic. The Wolf of Winter will premiere August twentieth,
exclusively on Prime Video, and Jason here the director is
with us right now. Jason, let's start here. Why did
you choose Novak Djokovic as a subject of one of
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your movies here?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Well, they approached me. I'm not a tennis guy. I mean,
I know as much about tennis as any big sports fan.
I watched the Majors and the Grand Slams, but I'm
not really a tennis nerd like that. I knew of him.
I knew his reputation. I knew that he was a
polarizing figure and very opinionated. So from a character standpoint,
I was intrigued, and then the opportunity to actually follow
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a goat in real time. Most of the time, if
you do an athlete profile and it's one of the
greatest of their sport, you're doing it in retrospect, so
it's an archival documentary more than like a verite documentary.
This was a unique opportunity to follow someone who is
the greatest ever at their sport, who's still playing at
a dominant level. So I was interested to see what
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the push and pull was in his life between family
and on the court, and how he was making decisions
he was making at this point in his career.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
How cool is that for you, where people are seeking
you out to make their movie.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
That's pretty cool, right.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
Extremely, I've been extremely lucky and and work with really
great people. Nina Kurstych was a producer, was the producer
on this, and she was my producer for the Last
Dance as well. And Nina is Serbian, so she knew
all of Novak's backstory and she really was pivotal in
a getting me to do this, but be telling the
story itself. So but it's very cool to get those
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phone calls and those emails and that kind of outreach.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Can you talk about and explain to the audience and
to me for that matter, just what Novak had, like
his upbringing and what he had to overcome to become
the greatest tennis player that's ever lived.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Yeah, it's an unlikely story for a kid from Serbia
to be the greatest tennis player ever, because it's crazy.
Tennis has really seen as this kind of like first
world regal sport. It made sense that Federer and Nadal
are from Sweden and the south of Spain and they
look like, you know, they're movie stars and charismatic. Novak
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came from a war torn country which until recently. I
mean when I thought of sir, when I was younger,
I had mixed feelings about what this country was about.
Melosovich was their leader. He's a war criminal. I knew
that there were NATO bombings there, and he grew up
as a child during all of that, so he really
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didn't get a chance to have much of a childhood
at all. And then he was sent off when he
was twelve or thirteen years old to this school in
Germany by his dad to become a champion. His dad
put ten dollars on the table and said, this is
all we have left. So if you don't come home
a champion, then the family has nothing. He's got two
younger brothers, So an enormous amount of stress was placed
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on this kid, socially just growing up where he was
growing up during a war, but domestically as well, to
kind of be the breadwinner for his entire family. So
that informs a lot of what you see on and
off the court in Novak today as a grown man.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Jason, how collaborative was the process with Novak when it
came to deciding how his story was going to be told.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
He's really curious. He's one of the most intelligent guys
I've ever interviewed, and he's really really curious about the
process of filmmaking. So if he wanted to know, like
how do you do research, how do you decide who
you're going to talk to, how do you decide what
the first scene is? He really he just when he
when he goes for something, he dives full head into it.
I initially pitched him a doc that was titled The
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Two Novaks because I was really interested in the idea
that you cannot be the best dad in the world
and the best tennis player in the world at the
same time. And I wondered where the push and pull
was in his life and how he was grappling with
that at this point in his life because his kids
are now the age that he was when he was
dealing with all of that, the war and the bombings
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and all that. And he's got a fantastic relationship with
his kids. He's a great dad. He's got a great
relationship with his wife, Yelena, who was the MVP of
the documentary. She's extraordinary. So yeah, I forget the initial question,
but well, we're talking about how how involved he is. Yes,
he gave I mean, he gave a ton of notes.
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This was kind of the opposite of the Last Dance,
where Michael gave one note in two and a half years,
I think Novak gave a lot of notes. He had
a lot of feedback. He was very involved in the process.
But it wasn't a situation where and he respected this.
It wasn't a situation where he just got whatever he
wanted and he had, you know, final say on how
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were we going to tell his story. There was certain
places that we had to go in order to validate
the story and have some integrity. And he's smart enough
to understand that that if this There's was one hundred
percent positive portrayal of him, then then it would be
kind of a puff piece. But no one's one hundred
percent villain and no one's one hundred percent hero. So
he understood that we needed to tell both sides of
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that story, and he was accommodating with that.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Is there a person you didn't get on the documentary
that you wish you had gotten?
Speaker 8 (22:54):
There's not. I mean, we I really wanted to tell
a smaller story with with with with. I think there's
a propensity today with great athletes to immediately say, are like,
how many episodes is this going to be? And we
didn't do that any favors in doing ten episodes on
Jordan and the Bulls, But I really wanted this to
be kind of a smaller one. This was never meant
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to be a comprehensive, definitive story of his life. I
was really interested in this moment of his life. That's
why it's called the Wolf in Winter, which is a
nod to the Lion in Winter. Howard Bryant, who's a writer,
says in our doc that that's his favorite phase of
an athlete, is when they're kind of aging and they're
defending their crown against younger, younger challengers. So I really
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wanted to kind of tell the story of him at
a crossroads in his life in his late thirties, rather
than his entire life story. So we didn't cast a
very wide net for this and interviewed a lot less
people that I would normally interview in a documentary, but
we had really strong characters, so it worked out.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So you got all the people that you wanted. What
surprised you about Novak? Was there a personality trade that
surprised you the most? As you got to know him
through in this film.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
I think as a dad, I didn't expect him to
be a bad dad, but I had my own image
of him as kind of robotic and machine like on
the court. But immediately our first day of shooting his daughter,
who at that point I think was four, this dog,
by the way, took longer than the last dance took.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
That's how really how long we're working on this.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Ninety two minutes long and the last dance was ten hours,
and this took longer than that the last dance. But
his daughters showed up to the practice court and ran
over to him and sat in his lap, and she
put her little pink bucket hat on his head, And
those kind of moments are things that are earned and
you can't fake. So immediately I was thinking, like, all right,
this is I'm seeing something here that the public has
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not seen. And now we see his kids more and
more in the stands, and you can tell his affection
for them because he's always doing it for them. But
younger in his career and younger his life where he
didn't have kids, I think even he would be surprised
if he saw that piece of footage, maybe when he
was a young up and coming pro. But that was
immediately kind of disarmed me and made me think, all right,
there's more to this guy than just the robot on
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the tennis court.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Jason, I loved The Last Dance. My favorite person in
it was the security guard John Michael Wosniak. Yeah, when
you're making a documentary, is it not, Jordan? I mean
the shrug that Wosniak hit was just electric. I know,
when you're making a documentary, do you have a sense
in the moment of what's going to resonate with audiences
like that or does that sometimes surprise you not at all.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
That was one of the fun parts for us as
because we were still making that as The Last Dance
was airing, So we were making these episodes and to
see what went viral and see the memes and all that.
We had no concept. If he tried to do that,
you're putting the cart before the horse, and then you're
probably not going to make a very good film if
you're trying to make it go viral. That's something that
just kind of happens organically on its own. But yeah,
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John Michael is rest in peace to John Michael. But man,
is he a superstar after that thing.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Does Novak consider himself to be the greatest tennis player
of all time?
Speaker 8 (26:06):
We never discussed it. I don't he has to have
a healthy ego to perform the way that he performs.
He's not a cocky guy, and that never really came up.
I mean, he's if he felt he was the greatest
of all time and it was indisputable, I wonder if
that would be enough to make him stop. I don't
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know if he's trying to pad his resume for that argument,
but I think he just I know that he loves
the game so much that as long as he can
still play and play at on any given day the
highest level in the world. I mean, he could beat
Alcaraz and center on any given day. He's proven that
in the last couple of years. I don't think he
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sees any reason to stop playing, But deep down, I
think it would be hard for him to not consider
himself the best. Of course, when you hear everybody else,
including Rotha, recently, say that he is he's the greatest,
you know, but he doesn't drink his own kool aid,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Were you surprised by the amount of respect that Rafa
and Federer have for Novak.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Djokovic not surprised.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
It was nice to see, right, I wasn't surprised by it.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I mean, I guess you assume it's there, but until
you actually hear those guys talking about Novak, you don't
know if they actually do respect him.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
You know, it's fun. It's one of the fun parts
of you know, Novak's obviously still active and those guys
are retire but it's one of the fun parts about
watching these legends play and then when they retire you
actually get to hear a little bit of the truth. Yes,
because I don't think that either one of those guys
would ever give that up if they were still playing
against him, and they probably didn't believe it when they
were playing against him. But when the dust settles, it's
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nice to hear the affection these guys and respect these
guys have for each other.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
So cool, Jason, you mentioned that they pitched you on
this idea, and I have an idea that I've been
trying to get off the Gratify potentially pitch you as
a director. Right.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
It's good timing because I just finished the project.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I want to turn a miracle on ice into a
Broadway play.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh stop it ooh you like that idea? Or you're
just being nice? What's going on here?
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Are we talking like roller Blades? How would we?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I think on roller Blades by a lot of singing,
a lot of dancing. You have the conflict with the
USA and Russia. Feels like it's there for the taking.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Yeah, I mean eighty kind of like flamboyant costumes, you see,
like high kicks.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
We capitalize on this hockey craze right now?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:31):
Yeah, I mean, well, my friends at Words and Pictures
did the Miracle doc that came out on Netflix earlier
this year, which was phenomenal. So and obviously that story
has got endless legs. I mean, how many dots have
been done on that thing and people still eat it up?
So maybe, yeah, I think the Broadway could be the
next Frontier. You might be honest something, So I'd be
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honored to be involved.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
So that's not a no. I mean I am shocked.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
It's better than a no.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It's maybe.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
In fact, do you know what, Yes, we're doing it.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, yeah, we're going abroadway.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
You heard his terms though it was eighty twenty his
way the percentages you heard that.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
He'll cut you, dam Novak?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What do you want people here again?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
The Wolf in Winter will premiere August twentieth exclusively a
Prime video. Jason Hare, the director of the new film,
is with us. What do you want people to walk
away from this film thinking about Novak Djokovic?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
What do you think they'll walk away thinking about him?
Speaker 8 (29:29):
I want them to understand him more. I don't want
them necessarily to like him more, to love him if
they hated him, to love him now. But if they
don't like him, I want them to understand why he
acts the way he asks, why he makes the decisions
he makes, why he is the person he is, And
if they do like him, I want them to, you know,
still understand the guy more than they did when they
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came in, because he's a pretty private guy and there
hasn't been a real deep dive done on him yet.
That was another reason why this was an attractive project,
is that people really have haven't done a long form
doctor He's participated in fully, so just understanding and showing
the human side of this guy all the time. I
say that we try to de iconize these legends, these
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living legends, and the more human you can show them,
as I think, the more people respond and the more
it resonates with them. And there's nothing more human than
your daughter running up and sitting on your lap and
throwing a pink bucket hat on your head and you
laughing with her. So that's what I hope people come
away with is to understand not just Novak the tennis player,
but Novak the husband, the father, of the friend, the man.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Jason, we appreciate it. Your work is exceptional. I feel
like this is going to be a big time hit
for you. I think people are interested in this. The
US opens right around the corner. The Wolf in Winter
will premiere August twentieth, exclusively on Prime Video. Jason, thank
you so much for doing this.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Man.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
We appreciate it, and good luck with the film.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
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Speaker 1 (31:04):
We'll get to do me a favor here in just
a second hour. Thanks to Jason Hare for joining us
in that last segment. Mike Ye, what'd you make of
Taylor's pitch there to have Miracle on Ice be a
Broadway play.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
It's not ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
It is a moneymaker that I am surprised that we
haven't done. I mean, al Michaels singing, do you believe
in miracle?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Like that's your headliner right.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
There, right, yes, like do you believe inn Oh wow,
look at him. He's a performer, he's a party starter.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
And I also want a spot in the in the play, Mikey,
I'm lynn Manuel Marinshine.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I mean he took eighty twenty from the guy. He
didn't even hear it. I've snuck it in there.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
I want to play a Russian. I want to play
a Russian.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Taylor.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Never start negotiations with fifty to fifty, all right, let
him bring you to fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Don't start at fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Yeah, I got a little star truck because he directed
the last dance, and I just I've had this idea
that it would translate so well to Broadway that I
just wanted to try to get it to life. So
that's why I went in with fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
He was being nice though, right, I mean there's no
way he likes I don't know like you liked it, Mikey,
Hey loves it. Can I hear you sing that again?
Forget about how Michael.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Believe me, recalls me, recalls on us.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Let's get to do me a favor. Give me the music.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
God.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I want to recording him you singing that for the remaxer,
just on a loop.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
I'm gonna start writing this musical being Mikey shaky giggling.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yes, but now I want Mikey to actually voice it,
not out. Michael's get out of here.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Mikey's my star. I'm riding this cash count. I'm the
finish line.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Are all right? What do you got here? I'll do
me a favor, Hill.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Do me a favor.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Enough.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
With AP preseason polls, I am so over them. They
mean absolutely nothing. For AP preseason po comes out today.
Eighteen of the last nineteen polls have had at least
one preseason top ten team finish the season on rank.
Exactly half of AP preseason top twenty five teams the
past two years end of the season on rank. They
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mean absolutely nothing. You don't have to look any further
than last year, they said. Penn State and Clemson were
to top five teams in the AP preseason poll. Both stunk.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You need like a I understand what you're saying. But
if we all know they're nonsense and mean nothing, who cares.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
It's benign. It's an AP pole be starting point. That's all.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Nobody goes into it with them saying that it's nonsense
because last year everybody was like, man, here comes Kate
Clubnick and this Clemson team, and this is how you
could tell people don't watch college football, that only watch
the NFL. If you're trying to convince yourself today that
Drew Aller and Kate Clubnick are gonna be good NFL quarterbacks,
that's how I know you didn't watch them play at
Penn State in Clemson. Respect me.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
If you do, you're a Jet fan, Yeah, that's what
you are, right.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
But Aller was coached by James Frankly.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I mean, that's the one I'm willing to go back
on a little because Aler has always had the tools
to put it all together. Now, if you're giving him
Mike McCarthy and he's sitting behind Aaron Rodgers and learning, okay,
I'm a little more willing to forgive Drew Aller for
being an absolute disaster in Happy Valley.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
I'm sorry because Dabo Sweeney is just a plethora quarterback,
which high end quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Because I mean Trevor Lawrence, we're still asking if he's
any good.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yes, funny that you should mention that Mina Kimes has
Trevor Lawrence as her sneaky MVP pick.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Really she's wrong.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
I mean it's really sneaky. It's like too sneaky.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I mean, no one knows more football than Mina. I'm serious,
but he's wrong on this one. It's where I draw
the line.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Do me a favor, Mina pick somebody else.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I was gonna use that, all right, I'll go, all right,
what do you got?
Speaker 5 (34:55):
As Taylor did? One that happens every year.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
I will also bring one that happens every year at
this time, do me a favor. I don't care about
your fantasy team like I care about my fantasy team,
really care about my fantasy league. I don't care about yours.
This is draft season. Everybody's picking their guys. And I
got a friend who calls me. He's like, hey, hey, hey,
gets who I got in.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
The third round. Guess what? I don't care do me
a favor. Keep it to yourself interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I'm with you there. Really couldn't care less about your bets,
couldn't care less about your fantasy football team.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So why don't we share.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Your or your golf handicap or your poker hands.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
I don't care about any of them unless I am
directly involved.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
This is all I have, though. You take the hint
you don't care about me.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Yeah, the guy who walks in and like, look at
this parlay I hit for fifty dollars this weekend. Okay, buddy,
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Tell me about all how many did you miss to
get here?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Yeah, give me a favor.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Look at this parlay I won. I'm still down two
thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
In favor, and shove that ticket where the sun doesn't shine.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Buddy, you're thirty one years old. Man.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
I use buddy alarmingly high rate.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yes, what happened.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
I couldn't remember what the word rate was.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I mean I use buddy as well.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's because I can't remember anyone's name, and so everyone
is buddy to me. I mean you're up, pal, Do
me a favor. Everyone stop telling me that I can't
get excited about preseason football. We wait for football. We
talk about waiting for football, we talk about how much
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we miss football. I don't care that the games don't matter.
It's football, and it's being played on a football field,
and it's on my TV. And this is the way
I do preseason. I told Chris Simms this last week. Okay,
I have it on, so I feel good that football
is on. I peek over to one of the TVs
and Drew Aller standing there, and he looks the park
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and he passes the sniff test. And you know what,
I say to myself, maybe, And I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I enjoy the hell out of doing that. I really do.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I enjoy looking at a television screen, not knowing who
the guy is, not knowing that the Steelers drafted a
guy who was projected as a top five pick before
last year started. I look at him. I see him
a quarterback. I see him in the uniform. I see
him in the Steelers jersey.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
And I say to myself, stud, to your credit, Drew
Aller leads the league and looking the part, he does,
look the part. Really, that's part of Drew Hollur's downfall
at Penn Stand because everybody would look at him. Once
he puts on a jersey, It's like, my god, Wow,
that guy looks like he can sling it.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, Mikey, how do you feel about preseason? It's fun
doing that. I watch a quarterback, Haines King, and I say, huh.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I have not watched one snap, and I won't watch
one snap.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Because because the problem is, it is not at all football.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
It is it is a padded practice
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Padded When he watches the Jets lose, he wants to
watch them lose for real.