April 16, 2026 • 38 mins
On this edition of The Best of Stugotz and Company LIVE!: Stugotz and company discuss Steph Curry's game against the Clippers and how the play-in games have been so far. Taylor takes Stu and the guys through a round of "Think About It Thursday". Stugotz and company react to Stephen A Smith's take that he would not want Kawhi Leonard to be the leader of his NBA franchise.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is the best of Stu Gotson Company Live on
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Is he we have a problem?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Is it that you can't see because I'm looking at
your eyeglasses. They're over here in the studio and you're
in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Now I bought another pair. Okay, it's the best scam going,
these pharmacy glasses that you buy and then you lose
them a week later and have to go buy at
the three pack. It's unbelievable. Well, that finally is You're good. Yes,
now you have But that is not the problem. The
problem is I realized during the update there from Mike
that there is a Yankee game going on right now,
and that means Taylor is going to be distracted pretty much.
(00:51):
The Atire show Aaron Judge with his eighth homer of
the year, Aaron Judge, and.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
We got a big home run from John Carlos Stanton.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
He's playing Wow, Ye, Taylor, you can't have it both ways.
This is your least favorite Yankee team ever? Like, how
are you so locked in?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I'm not moving off that take. I watch every Yankee game,
one hundred and sixty two games. There are gonna be
times where my least favorite team is still playing and
I'm still gonna watch the games, and I'm still gonna
try to support them. My least favorite Yankee team is
still one of my favorite Yankee teams.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Taylor, you think, cause you mentioned how many games they were,
you think the Yankees could ever go undefeated.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
They would have to be a lot better.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I can't believe you watch every game. That's such a commitment,
Like I can't even watch. I still haven't seen episode
one of season three of Euphouria yet because it's like
I got other things.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
To do, right, Well, the E and Euphouria stands for
every couple of years. I mean, it's all Willy Nelly hazard.
The way they released these new seasons, it's unbelievable. Who knows.
I mean, you better watch it now, is he? The
next season is going to be five years from now?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well that's why I'm thinking, you know what, let the
episodes pile up.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
I got plenty of time to watch them, right, But.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I'm laughing because the Aaron Judge World Baseball Classic takes
are not aging well. I mean, he's having a season, Taylor,
he is, and you were.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Worried about me. My only complaint with Aaron Judge right
now is they're playing the Angels in this series, and
every time Mike Trout hits a home run, they cut
to Aaron Judge, and Aaron Judge is having a chuckle
fest in the outfield every time Mike Trout hits a
home run like that, right, because they're they're doing this
thing where they're appreciating each other's greatness because they're just
(02:32):
alternating who's turn it is to hit a home run
seemingly every at bat. But Aaron Judge, I don't need
you looking like you're having the time of your life.
Every time Mike Trout hits one four hundred feet.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
He's supposed to look upset. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yes, you know what when you said Mike Trout, I
thought the same exact thing when you said gian Carlos Stanton,
he's playing and not say like Mike Trout has heard
all the time. You just never hear from him because
he's in that, you know, waste land of Anaheim.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yes, Roger mcdabbell is going to join us. At about
fifteen minutes. Many people in the audience are saying, who
the hell is Roger McDowell. He was a relief pitcher
mid eighties for the New York Mets and other teams.
But this is a personal one for me, as he
was a member of my favorite team, the nineteen eighty
six New York Mets. The last time I was happy
being a sports fan the mid eighties pretty much. So
(03:20):
I'm looking forward to that. Sean Merrimana to join us
in our number two? Is he ice? Yeah? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That sounds so personal with you and McDowell, I'll probably
just say that one out if you're good, You.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Guys could just have at it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Thank you. I need him all to myself. I want
him all to myself, I do. But is he the
play in tournament which I said is a waste of time?
And here's what happened. Since I said it's a waste
of time, we have had the greatest playing game in
the history of playing games with the Hornet and Heat
and we had Steph Curry with a performance for the
Ages last night. I mean, I don't believe man.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Yeah, so good that guy.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
It's becoming like almost an expectation for Steph, Like if
there's a big game, a big moment, no matter what
his physical stature is, he's going to do something spectacular.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
And yesterday you could see the effort. You could see it.
It's a little harder than.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It used to be for Steve.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
It's a little bit more difficult. You can see some
of that effort. Really am putting it in there. But
when he hit that one to three and then fell
into the stands and asked the fan did it go in?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Good?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And then turned around and celebrated. I mean, that guy,
he's just a gift to basketball. He's so much fun
to watch. When you get a performance like that, you
say to yourself, I need that guy in the rest
of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Also, he has well play better during the regular season.
About that, well, he.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Was heard, so he couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's a question. When he asked the fan that question,
he knew the answer correct, of.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Course, Yeah, you know, he knew the answer. It was
this classic Steph Currage. Just the best probably celebrator in
the history of basketball.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Stu I am shocked that this was the angle you
took from this Warriors game. Ye, I'm logged into your
Twitter account so I could post poll questions faster.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And yesterday I'm watching the I'm watching a baseball game.
I have the Warriors game on and a smaller TV,
but I'm not really paying too much attention to it.
But all of a sudden, I start getting notifications left
and right, and I'm like, what is happening right now?
And then I look to the Warriors game and Al
(05:27):
Horford is turning back the clocks. He goes four for
four in the fourth quarter from three, and it feels
like whenever Al Horford does something, that's a chance for
a Stu Gott's victory lap.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yes, listen, I have said Al Horford should be a
first ballot Hall of Famer. He has multiple championships. He's
one of the best power forwards to ever play the game.
He can shoot threes, he can defend, he can grab rebounds,
he does the little things. Whatever you need Al Horford
to do, he does them for you. And I am
telling you the so Celtics do not win that NBA
(06:01):
championship if not for one Al Horford.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
How about that is huh yeah, no, I mean that
was his only Well.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
You don't say three? Well, I just.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Could hung up on you saying he got multiple championships,
were you including college?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Well, I just whatever, he's Al Horford, I mean, yeah, no, no,
just making sure.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I just didn't want to mislead the people because I
know in your brand you're thinking he's a three time champion.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeh ok two of them were in college. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Listen, one for alcouts is three. Okay. That's the way
I look at he's that important to a team.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
He is and Al Horford. What Al Horford brings to
the table for a team Steve Gotts is kind of
right in Al Horford's prime, if you could get five
Al Horfords, I like that team's chance to win a
time Taylor.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
I don't even think it has to be in his prime.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Horford has somehow gotten like, not necessarily better, but more
useful the older he gets, because that three point shots
so much more reliable. And I don't know what it is,
whether it's reputation or what, but his on ball defense
continues to be great. How I have no idea I
think he might get away with a few things, but
(07:07):
at his age, he should not be able to stop
guards at his size, but somehow he does.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Everyone makes it into that Basketball Hall of Fame. It's
why I hate that Hall of Fame is Al Horford
Does he have a chance to get it? And he'd
be first ballot for me if it were my decisions.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So yeah, because it's the Basketball Hall of Fame, the
Naysmith Hall of Fame, and you can include his back
to back championships in college.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's a possibility, but I think it's a
real long shot. Like how many All Star Games has
he made? Too? Maybe so Stu.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I'm on Basketball Reference right now and they have their
Hall of Fame probability. Yeah, Al Horford is at twenty
six point five percent, so really it's not looking too well.
But maybe he has a opposite of Russell Wilson, where
if the Warriors could go on a run and they
win a title, he could.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Get himself into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And Al Horford he is aging like a fine wine.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Oh he really is. He's got ten years left at least. Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I've kind of I think I changed my mind on
that he's made five All Star Games. Yeah, and historically,
at least in my mind, ever since I believe it
was Mitch Richmond made the Hall of Fame with five
All Star Games. I was like, Okay, that's the minimum.
You get five your Hall of Fame potential.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
He's got his five.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
He got five, he's got two national championships, he's got
an NBA championship. Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown they've never
won one without him. I mean, how about that? The
same about Drew Holliday.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
The reason why.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I want Al Horford to get in is because you're
looking at some of the numbers Al Horford's put up
in his career. He's a twelve point seven points per
game career scorer, seven point seven rebounds, three point two assists.
If Al Horford gets in, we have the new answer
for who is the worst Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
We watch your tongue, young man numbers. He's about little things, okay.
It's about what he says in a time out. It's
about a pregame speech, a little halftime motivation. It's how
he takes the rookies under his wing and he teaches
them the ropes of the NBA. That's what Al Horford
is all about. Anything he gives you in the way
in numbers is just a bonus, Taylor.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
He was an All Star in twenty eighteen, which seems
way too recent for him to have been an All Star.
Average for the season twelve point nine points, seven point
four rebound, Yeah, fit somehow in defensive Player of the
Year ranking.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I'm telling you, man, everybody loves them, Sam al.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Horford, who doesn't Draymond Green's gonna get into the Hall
of Fame right easily? Correct?
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Obviously he might already be there, really somehow.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
He was so good last night. You loved Draymond Green's
game last night, didn't you.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
So it's it's.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Crazy because Steve Kur said after the game, and he's not.
This isn't the first time he said this, suggesting that
he might be the best defensive player of all time.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Who you think of when you think greatest defensive player
in NBA history. Maybe Bill Russell. But if you're thinking
Bill Russell, you need to update that. I think Jordan
might be.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You think Jordan, I mean Jordan pip In. You know
those two goes pretty much, well, that's two people.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
He almost only thinks Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
What it's really about it. I mean, that's what makes
him so great. He was just as good defensively as
he was offensively anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Okay, and you don't think that Draymond Green. Maybe, look,
take a deep breath, think about this. Okay, maybe it's
possible that Draymond Green is a better defensive player than
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Let's do it this way. Okay, you take a deep breath. Right,
Imagine Draymond guarding Michael and Michael guarding Draymon. Huh. It's
a good point, thank you. Michael would light Draymond up
for fifty.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Fifty every night, But how does that make him at.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Out? We'll go from one of tech. Thank you, Taylor,
go ahead.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
So I believe that's what we in the business call
a checkmate.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
If that's the case, I don't know how to play chess.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I don't know how this game is played, Taylor, putting
on the polls that you control my Twitter account? Is
that what we in the business call it? Checkmate?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
The only way?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So if Michael Jordan was playing one on one against
Draymond Green, and then playing a second one on one
game against himself, then we would know who the better
defender is I gut they're both defending Michael Jordan. But
I'm pretty sure I'll take this back after I say it,
but I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I can defend Draymond Green for about a point.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Okay, you don't need to be the greatest defender of
all time to defend Draymond Green. So I don't really
know if I buy that, but hey, i've been checkmated.
I'm not gonna do about it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I am now looking up Michael Jordan. How many times
he made the NBA All Defensive First Team.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Oh, it was not all of them, all of them,
he made all of them.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
All right, we'll take a quick time out here eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox. I don't know why
I'm giving out that phone number since we have Roder
McDowell coming up next, but I wanted to ask the question,
Jordan or Draymond who's the better defender? Eight seven seven nine.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You know that's going to come back MJ like you
know that is he? I'm sorry, it's good to me this. Yes, no,
I don't hate this. It just depends on who the
audience is, right. If it's a bunch of people over
thirty five they're all going to say, Jordan, if it's
a bunch of under thirties, they're gonna actually think about it.
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think about It Thursday. As Taylor continues to counter program
a local show down in Miami. So Chris give me
the imaging please?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
You know that segment talk about a Tuesday on Howks
Crowder and soamiro. This is like that, but bigger, bigger
and better, better, better, and forty eight hours later, this
is think about It Thursday.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Imaging so formal. It is great imaging, Chris, you don't
want to know how much we spent on that imaging.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I don't have dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
By the way, the Yankee trailing now six to four daily.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
My least favorite team. You're gonna you have kids, one
of your kids is your least favorite kid. This just
happens to be my least favorite Yankee team. Doesn't mean
I don't love them, just my least favorite.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I understand, Yes, So today's.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Think about It Thursday. The White Sox are honoring their
super fan, Pope Leo with a Pope hat giveaway in August.
It was initially announced as a special ticket giveaway, but
it was so popular amongst their fans that they've decided
now everybody in attendance will get said hat. So my
question for you guys, what are the best and worst
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promotional giveaways at a sporting event?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Well, that's the worst.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I can't imagine an entire crowd of people in Pope
hats is gonna look good, nor are you do you
can you imagine what they're going to do with it afterward?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Like when are you going to sport this pope hat?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Right? And it's August, I mean a little hot for uh, you.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Know, someone's gonna throw off in that pope hat from.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Two put it on the ball tailer is so I'm
gonna throw up in the po pat from Too much beer.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Does kind of make you look like a Game of
Thrones character.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Though, so for me, my favorite giveaway growing up as
a kid going to Yankee games was bat Day. I
can remember being seven years old and walking out a
Yankee stadium with a full sized bat, which was awesome swinging.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
That little sized really yep, full size. They can't still
be doing that.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
No, I highly doubt it, but full sized bat just
swinging it in the parking lot. Bibblehead Nights kind of
hit or miss for me. The Yankees do a George
Costanza bibblehead night, which is popular. Sometimes they get a
little too cute with the bobbleheads, like Max Fried has
a Mandalorian bobblehead Night where he's dressed up as the
Mandalorian's that's a.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Little too cute.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
For me, I think babbleheads always land as a promotional
item in terms of getting excited, and then if it
lets you down, it lets you down. That's part of
the thing, right, I think bibbleheads are pretty much number
one kind of gold standard giveaway.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I've got two Aaron Eck Blad bobbleheads in my house.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I have no idea why. I'm not a huge Blad fan.
Just got happened to go to that game, and you
can't throw those away.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
A couple of bobbleheads cutting it up. Huh.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
One of them is still in the box just in
case Aaron neck really in mid condition.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So Stu.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Actually, after this show today, I'm getting on a flight
and going back to New York for the week, and
I'm thinking about going to the Yankee game tomorrow just
because of the giveaway they're doing. It's a hockey jersey giveaway,
but the hockey jersey is a Yankee jersey.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That one's interesting that the shirt or close giveaway is
always tough because the sizes are not they don't ary, right,
They're just gonna give you a large size and hope
you can deal with it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
What are you thinking here? Is he do you have one.
I'm thinking about it. That's what I'm doing. It's not good.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
This is just a think about It Thursdays, so you're
supposed to think about it, so it's.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Not like we're waiting for a final, firm answer.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I do think you mentioned that day. I think mini
bats or mini anything like. If you give me a
mini basketball, I'm all about it.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Now.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You can't really give those away in a basketball game
because it probably have three hundred of them end up
on the court somehow.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
But you give me a mini item of some sort,
I'm down.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, I am. I'm looking at some promotions right now.
In nineteen forty two, the Giants had scrap Metal Night.
I mean it's terrible. Free admission for bringing scrap metal
resulted in ten thousand children causing a field invasion and
a forfeitted game. I mean that you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Said nineteen forty two. Yeah, probably probably for the war.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, yeah, scrap metal was big back then. You're right,
I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yes, Stu, I have a guest that wants to contribute
on Today's Think About It Thursday. Really it's it's Ai
Colin Coward.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well, this is exciting. We haven't heard from Ai Colin
Coward in quite some time. This is very very exciting.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Colin, Hey, Ai Colin Coward.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
What are the best and worst promotional giveaways at a
sporting event?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
The best giveaways are the ones you actually use or display. Bobbleheads,
replica jerseys, a good hat, even a seat cushion for
a long game. The worst ones are the why did
you even make this items? Bags of soil, tiny squares
of bubble wrap, weird novelty stuff that ends up in
the parking lot before the second quarter. A great promo
feels like a souvenir and a flex. A bad promo
(18:26):
feels like clutter with a.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Logo, what do you think about the White Sox while
honoring Pope Leo with the Pope hat giveaway?
Speaker 7 (18:35):
I love it. Sports is supposed to be fun and
a Pope hat shaped like a miter with the White
Sox logo is the kind of weird, memorable giveaway people
actually keep, and the move to give it to everybody
On August eleventh against Cincinnati, smart nothing kills a promo
like telling most of the stadium sorry, you don't qualify.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
And Colin, you didn't even mention that Pope Leo is
a White Sox fan, which kind of adds to the
entry of it.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Yeah, it's cool because it's real. He's a Chicago guy.
He's been a longtime White Sox fan, and he's not
hiding it. Even when somebody yells go Cubs and he
fires back. They lost. That's the whole charm. It makes
him feel like a normal fan with a global job.
That's not a gimmick, that's personality.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Do you think it's a bit dangerous for teams to
give away full sized baseball bats at games?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, that's that's playing with fire.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Handing out full sized baseball bats to a crowd is
just begging for one idiot to turn the concourse into
a problem. Teams already deal with foul balls and broken
bats flying into seats, so why add another hard object
that can become a weapon or a liability. If you
want the vibe, do a mini bat or a foam bat,
same fun, none of the chaos.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Wow is he he?
Speaker 4 (19:48):
You agree with your point?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I mean, hey, I don't know how is he feels
about that? I mean, but better than the actual college,
I mean, he's quicker, he's better.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yeah, better than any of us.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Too.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I'm worried about my job.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
Frankly, every time he played AI call and I'm like, Wow,
what would I be as a fast food worker or
something like that, because I don't think I can do
better than Ai Colin.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
We have any more. He's so good. I mean, listen
the third question. I forget what it was, but he
would fumble around for at least two minutes before he
gave an answer. Not Ai Collin. Ai Colin spits it
right back at you. So Taylor Man, he should be
hosted a show this What did he say? You useless
giveaway like a bag of soil. Yeah, yes, they've done
(20:35):
that before.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Bag of soil night.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
That was the real thing.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, if I.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Had a guess, it's like, you just get some outfield dirt.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Because in terms of practicality, hey, throw this in your
garden something like that. You know, maybe not the worst
thing in the world, but in terms of carrying it
around practically during a game, not the best.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So Stu. Actually, one time I took a tour of
Yankee Stadium when I was probably seven or eight, and
the only thing I got on the tour I went
with a ziploc bag and I went to the warning track,
and when I went to the warning track, I looked
to see if anybody was looking. I bent down. I
scooped as much of the warning track into said bag,
(21:16):
and then I put it on my wall with tape
and my mom was looking at it, like, you gotta
take that down.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
That is dirt.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
My mom's an interior decorator, and she was like, we
are not putting dirt up on your wall.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, but did you tell her mom, this is not
just any sort of dirt here, Okay, this is dirt
from the Yankee outfield. And did it change her minds?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I mean no, she didn't care. So I think where
she was mad is my dad would always take me
to these things. And my dad would never say no
to anything one because he's Italian and he doesn't really
understand the significant impact that some of these things had.
Like when I went to a Yankee red socket in
one time, I was like, Dad, can I buy the shirt?
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And it was one of those shirts that says Buck
Foston and he was like he was like, yeah, I
don't understand that. So I'm going back to the house
and I'm like all sly wearing it. And the second
my mom sees it. She took that shirt off me
as I was walking in and in one sweet motion,
threw it in the.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Trash I love, and then yelled me your dad.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah, this is Italian man raising this new found American
who's learning his way than this country.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
It's just like Buck Foston. What does that mean is
that one of the players. Is it Boston? Any good?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh? My god? Is he? How do we feel about
in twenty sixteen the Brewers did paint your own Bobblehead night?
About that?
Speaker 9 (22:42):
Man?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
That is lazy?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, dude, don't make me do the work. Brewers, seriously,
do me a favorite. Don't make me do the work.
Peyt No, damn bobblehead And when I get there, just
give it to me.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
But if you were in the front office, dude, you
would make the fans.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Do the work. Right.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
That's a stud God's front office.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I've ever seen one.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
For me, cat Nights the most overrated. I don't think
I've ever worn a hat giveaway.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Oh man, you scared me for a second. I thought
you said cat Night.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Could you imagine the chaos if they allow us a
bunch of cats in a stadium like they do the dogs.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Wow, that would be insane.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I'm certain they have. By the way, dog night, I mean,
do me a favor. I go to a baseball game
to watch baseball. I don't need to deal with a dog.
Leave him at home.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gotson Company
Live Weekday. Said three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I want to play some sound for Israel Goudyeirez from
one Stephen A. Smith, the greatest of all time, the
greatest ever do this. You're debating that.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Really it should be debated, right, every goat debate should
have especially with Steven A.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Wait, you guys don't view him as the goat of
sports media.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I mean all time is a long time sale is
up there.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
So I've viewed Steven A. Smith as the goat of
sports media. But Steven A. Smith himself would respect the
fact that we're even having this debate.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
You're right, I'm sorry, but Steven A. Smith, for me,
is the greatest to ever do this. I am the
commissioner of sports radio and he is on my all
time sports media team.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But I want to play some sound and get the
reaction from one Israel goody eras because we have spoken
you and I is he about Kawhi Leonard. What a
polarizing figure he is, and last night Steph Curry bounced
him out of the playoffs. Here is Steven A. Smith
talking about Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
He's supposed to be the face of the franchise.
Speaker 10 (24:39):
The last five years, the Clippers have missed the playoffs,
got bounced in the first round the next three years,
and now they've missed the playoffs again. So as far
as I'm concerned, if you're talking about how to view
his season individually, in terms of his numbers averaging nearly
twenty eight and six on the season, of course those
numbers are very, very impressive, But in the same break,
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the investment that has been made in him over the
years has not reached fruition his ability to carry a
team to something that isn't true because he's gone home
in the first round or they've missed the playoffs the
last five damn years, and it's solidified the fact that
he is not the person that you would want as
the leader of your franchise. His individual skills are what
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they are, but in terms of galvanizing the troops, in
terms of carrying a franchise and all the responsibilities that
come with it.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
That's not him, really, who was doing it in Toronto?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Who was that.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Who've galvanized troops in Toronto and led them and won
a championship with them over the arguably greatest team of
all time, although it was injured Warriors. Like, that's one
of the most ridiculous takes I've ever heard. If you
look at the last few years, if you just come
onto a microphone and say, I don't think Kawhi Leonard
should be the leader of your franchise because he's always hurt,
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I'm good with that. You can There's nothing I can
say about that. He played two playoff games in twenty three.
He played two playoff games in twenty four, Okay, so
it wasn't like he was there for all of that
first round even And so yeah, we have multiple examples
of if Kawhi Leonard was the leader of your team,
that he can win you a championship. Frankly, he probably
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should have three, if not for one big ray Allen shot.
So I just feel like Kawhi Leonard is misunderstood because
he likes his privacy, likes to be quiet, and when
it comes to a no nonsense basketball player. Listen, he
leads the league and no nonsense, Like, there is absolutely
zero nonsense in that dude.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Okay, So that's the type of player you want.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Like if Kawhi Leonard was on the Miami Heat and
you're gonna tell me he's.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Gonna stay healthy. What a perfect extension of the coach
on the floor.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And that guy even if you make him, you tell
him to run, he's probably not gonna run.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
But still he is a.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Perfect extension of the coach out there. And I just
I just don't buy it. It's just recency biases.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
What that is?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Taylor put it on the poll. Please, does Kawhi Leonard
lead the league in no nonsense?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Not a single ounce of nonsense, right buddy?
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And I understand what you're saying. I also understand kind
of what Steven A. Smith is saying. He's not consistent
enough in terms of playing where you want him to
lead your franchise, in terms of just being available. But
and I think that's part of the frustration with Kawhi
Leonard is he we all see the greatness every single
time he takes the court. We could see just how
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great that guy is as a basketball player and a competitor,
by the way, and he has won two NBA titles,
But I think there is a feeling amongst NBA fans
that if that guy were simply available, if he treated
his career slightly differently than he has, that's a guy
that should have four or five NBA championships. Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, when you say treated his career the way that
he has, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Just you know, all the games off, not being ready
for certain moments, just stuff like that, whatever happened after
he won the first title in San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
But that's all just it's actual injury issues that he's
dealing with. He's not just sitting out because maybe he'll
get hurt.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
He has.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
He's had a knee condition that he's had to navigate
his entire career. That's why it was so confusing when
he was leaving the Spurs and nobody could figure out
exactly what the issue was. So, you know, there are people,
lesser players who might have retired with that type of uh,
you know, knee situation that have enough money that you
know they never have to worry about money again. Instead,
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he found a way to win another championship, found a
way to build get himself on a Clippers team that
might actually be legitimate. So I don't think him missing
time is a knock on him on how he.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Approaches his career. That is strictly injury management.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So Kawhi Leinner, for you, is a guy that you
would want to lead your basketball team, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
But only if I knew he could actually be healthy.
So I don't think many people even predicted he would
stay healthy this year. And you saw when he was
healthy how good these Clippers were, And so I think
that's the problem. I think that's where the uncertainty comes,
even with James Harden. When James Harden's asking out, it's
not necessarily because he doesn't believe that Kawhi Leonard and
he can lead a team. It's because you might not
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believe Kawhi Leonard is going to be around, and especially
when you think of you know, the potential and obviously
didn't happen this year, But any sort of punishment he
gets from the Aspiration deal and potentially you know, circumventing
the salary cap, all that stuff was in people's minds too.
But if you tell me next year. Hey, if you
tell Kawhi, hey, you felt pretty good this year, you
think you can keep that up for whatever it is
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seventy of eighty two next year in the playoffs. Absolutely,
I'm taking that guy to lead my team.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Stuart the Clippers. With the Clippers missing the playoffs thanks
to the Paul George trade, Oklahoma City now has a
pick in this year's lottery. They currently have a seven
point one percent chance to move up in the top four.
Is he when you're when you're looking at this trade,
I'm first off shocked that this trade is still still
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seeing the effects.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Of it benefits for Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yes, right, when when you factor in just that a
one for one trade of SGA for Paul George would
have been a win for OKC. Then you add in
the fact that one of the picks they got back
turned into Jalen Williams. Now they have an additional lottery
pick coming up. Could you make the argument this is
one of the most lopsided trades in NBA history, Yeah,
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I think it was.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
It's already probably the most.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
You know, there are trades where somebody clearly overpaid, like
Michael Bridges and all the first rounders for the Knicks.
But that's you know, out of desperation. That's like a
finishing piece, if you will, for a team for a
trade like this to be two franchise type players, or
at least one. At the time, you didn't even know
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what Shay was going to be. So when Shay turns
out to be a better player than Paul George, it's
already lopsided, right because they obviously had to give up
so much more to get them.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
So you throw in all those It's just it seems
like the trade that never ends. It's like you mentioned Taylor.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
So there's a seven point one percent chance for OKC
to move up into the lottery or to move up
into the top four in the lottery. Stu, there's a
scenario where the Thunder are the NBA champs for back
to back years and then the lottery plays out, and
who do they add to their team? AJ Debontsa, Yeah,
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Darren Peterson, maybe Caleb Wilson from North Carolina, Cam Boozer
from from Duke. There's a chance that this Thunder team
is on the vert Well, it's we're already there, that this.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Is already there.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yes, we're in the middle on the verge of a dynasty.
They might just get more reinforcements added to said Dinastasy.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
And it's not even necessarily just reinforcements, right, it's replacements
for when the other guys get expensive. Hey, Chet Holdenman,
what have you done for me to you know, to
pay you max super max money? Okay, we're gonna stick
with cam Boozer maybe you know. I think it just
it gives them so many options to remain good and
you're not in salary cap hell, because you know they
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planned ahead and got a little lucky with SGA.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Hopefully they use that pick on someone who plays the
game in an exciting fashion because they lead the league
in ZZZ plus. I mean, how about that got someone
who could dunk? As that said. By the way, the
last time Kawhi Leonard played seventy plus games is he
twenty and sixty?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
I didn't think it was in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I got to go wow.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I mean, but I think that's what Steve and a
Steven as absolutely factoring that in that part of it.
In you don't want him leading your team because he's
never going to play seventy games unlike SGA.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Right, Listen, Toronto chose one year to man have that
guy lead that team. He's got the ultimate prize, so
name namely another guy who did that on a one
year loan when and.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Gave an entire country a championship, Like come on, like
we get what's happened lately.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
We've always known that his knee would be a problem,
but it was supposed to be a problem that year
in Toronto.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
They managed it.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
They you know, only had him play a certain number
of games, whatever, sixty games that year won a championship.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So yes, I mean he did win the Raptors a championship.
They kept going to the playoffs with Kyle Lowry who
you know, I think Teres Max. He told us was retiring,
but they kept getting there with DeRozan and Lowry and
Lowry and DeRozan and DeRozan and Lowry, and they kept
getting bounced out in the second round. And then incomes
Kawhi Leonard boom NBA title.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
If I was Kawhi Leonard, I'd be a little less
worried about that knee and more worried about Pablo Torre
sniffing around.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
It's crazy how nothing has come of that.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Like there it feels like this is just one of
those things where they're just gonna let Kawhi's career end
and it's like we never.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Got to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Oh well, yeah, put it on the pole, Taylor. What'sh
your Kawhi Leonard be more worried about his knee or
Pablo Torre? And I can answer the question. I love that,
I love Pablo, and I say this respectfully, but no
one cares. Stu.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
They asked him about that yesterday after they lost. Yeah,
the headline says, Kawhi mom on Clipper's future. Also, he's
not stressing the NBA's aspiration probe.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
He's always mom and he's never stressing.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I mean, now I've got Pablo Torre and like some Corduroys,
a white T shirt with like a little sweater over it,
just going to the floor, smacking the hardwood and just
standing right in front of Kawai Leonard and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I'm just saying, is he I have too many things
in my life to worry about that. That how Kawhi
gets his money, where he's getting it from is not
one of them. I mean, I like fans lit, they
got enough stress in their own life. They don't care
about that stuff. Just give me a game, give me Kawhi,
give me a big game. Let me turn it on
and entertain me. That's all I'm saying. All Right, No,
who cares. I'll tell you who cares?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
The old school players who are already mad that the
new school players get all this money to begin with,
and now they get secret money and we're supposed to
be okay with it. Where was that secret money when
I was playing in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Dang it, Sean Merriman is going, I'm looking forward to this.
Shawn Merriman was a menace when he played in the NFL,
an amazing athlete. I'm really looking forward to this. Tailor,
you had something.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, we have a caller actually, who wants to talk
Kawhi Leonard?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Really wow? No one calling in on Draymond or Jordan?
Who's the better defender? Huh? Eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox? That is eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
We'll take a call here. Let's go to Mark in Miami. Mark,
go ahead, you're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (35:37):
What's up, fellows? Yeah, as far as the pole questions,
Jordan's by a landslide. It's not even close. Draymond's great lee,
but he's not on He's not nowhere near. An MJ
was the best elite perimeter defender and I don't think
there's a close debate on that. As far as Kawhi goes. Guys,
I've never Everybody talks about the Luca trade being the
worst trade. To me, this is my father worst trade.
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When you look up all the assets the Clippers gave
up in that trade, you basically gave up an MVP
of the league. You set up a dynasty there in
Oklahoma City. The Clippers are still irrelevant, even though they
got the richest owner in all the sports and Bombers,
they probably got the nicest arena in all the sports,
and they still don't move the needle. There's a redhead
to steps out in their own city. And as great
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as Kwahi is, he's the most odd superstar I think
maybe in the history of sports. He doesn't talk, he's mute,
he has no brands. He's just an all around great player,
but nobody knows anything about him. The only thing we
know he has a bizarre laugh and he has a
new balance steel that we discovered because he's in that commercial.
But at least for the mass you could say they
got Cooper Flagg, who to me is gonna be a
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generational talent. So when you look at all those factors, guys,
to me, the Clippers making that trade and now they
have no assets left and they're pretty much gonna reboot,
and probably Kawhi is gonna is gonna bolt. And so
I'm just hoping that the Heat hand because I know
Miami's deperate. We haven't landed a whale. I think they're
gonna make a play for Kawahi. I really hope they don't.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
That's what I was gonna ask you, Mark.
Speaker 9 (37:02):
This is an anomaly. This is this year has been anomaly.
He's not gonna stay healthy. He's gonna play probably about
thirty games next year, and then he will be dumb
enough to the real aman and give him on a
big max deal to take him. So they better not
do it, guys, because I'm healing rumblings they're gonna be
that desperate to really go after him because of the
playing team that we become year after years. So I'm
just saying for Heat Nation, please don't do it, because
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I have a bad feeling, guys that they're gonna be
so desperate they're gonna bite and take it. So thanks
for the time, fellas.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Get that Man Break podcast.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, great, call rack them. I mean to Mark Show.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Oh, Mark in Miami, that's what we go back.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yes, yes, Mark, I'm gonna give him find me on
social media. I'm gonna give you the hotline number so
you can just buzz in whenever you.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Want the hot You don't give anyone the hotline number.
What are you're gonna give it the Mark?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Mark in Miami just earned it.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
He did make me.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
He did make me think about a timeline where that
trade doesn't happen and it's just Kawhi, Leonard and SGA
on the Clippers and we all have to be serious
about the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, how about his Jordan take?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Though?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Huh it was wrong?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
What I mean? He was a defensive Player of the Year,
nine time first Team All NBA Defense. What okay, we'll
see Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Sean barn he was a great perimeter defender as a
man said, so we'll see Draymond he one through five.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
He didn't say that he was great. He said he
was the greatest of all time. That's what he said.
He said market He said.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
It was the greatest perimeter defender. And I was like, okay,
so that Raymond does more?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Do you know the hotline number?
Speaker 9 (38:32):
I did?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
That I don't get for nothing, right, That's why Taylor
didn't give it to you. He gave it to Mark.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Okay, I mean you and Mark and Miami are going
to have a podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is the best of Stu Gotson Company Live on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Is he we have a problem?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Is it that you can't see because I'm looking at
your eyeglasses. They're over here in the studio and you're
in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Now I bought another pair. Okay, it's the best scam going,
these pharmacy glasses that you buy and then you lose
them a week later and have to go buy at
the three pack. It's unbelievable. Well, that finally is You're good. Yes,
now you have But that is not the problem. The
problem is I realized during the update there from Mike
that there is a Yankee game going on right now,
and that means Taylor is going to be distracted pretty much.
(00:51):
The Atire show Aaron Judge with his eighth homer of
the year, Aaron Judge, and.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
We got a big home run from John Carlos Stanton.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
He's playing Wow, Ye, Taylor, you can't have it both ways.
This is your least favorite Yankee team ever? Like, how
are you so locked in?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I'm not moving off that take. I watch every Yankee game,
one hundred and sixty two games. There are gonna be
times where my least favorite team is still playing and
I'm still gonna watch the games, and I'm still gonna
try to support them. My least favorite Yankee team is
still one of my favorite Yankee teams.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Taylor, you think, cause you mentioned how many games they were,
you think the Yankees could ever go undefeated.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
They would have to be a lot better.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I can't believe you watch every game. That's such a commitment,
Like I can't even watch. I still haven't seen episode
one of season three of Euphouria yet because it's like
I got other things.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
To do, right, Well, the E and Euphouria stands for
every couple of years. I mean, it's all Willy Nelly hazard.
The way they released these new seasons, it's unbelievable. Who knows.
I mean, you better watch it now, is he? The
next season is going to be five years from now?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well that's why I'm thinking, you know what, let the
episodes pile up.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
I got plenty of time to watch them, right, But.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I'm laughing because the Aaron Judge World Baseball Classic takes
are not aging well. I mean, he's having a season, Taylor,
he is, and you were.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Worried about me. My only complaint with Aaron Judge right
now is they're playing the Angels in this series, and
every time Mike Trout hits a home run, they cut
to Aaron Judge, and Aaron Judge is having a chuckle
fest in the outfield every time Mike Trout hits a
home run like that, right, because they're they're doing this
thing where they're appreciating each other's greatness because they're just
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alternating who's turn it is to hit a home run
seemingly every at bat. But Aaron Judge, I don't need
you looking like you're having the time of your life.
Every time Mike Trout hits one four hundred feet.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
He's supposed to look upset. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yes, you know what when you said Mike Trout, I
thought the same exact thing when you said gian Carlos Stanton,
he's playing and not say like Mike Trout has heard
all the time. You just never hear from him because
he's in that, you know, waste land of Anaheim.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yes, Roger mcdabbell is going to join us. At about
fifteen minutes. Many people in the audience are saying, who
the hell is Roger McDowell. He was a relief pitcher
mid eighties for the New York Mets and other teams.
But this is a personal one for me, as he
was a member of my favorite team, the nineteen eighty
six New York Mets. The last time I was happy
being a sports fan the mid eighties pretty much. So
(03:20):
I'm looking forward to that. Sean Merrimana to join us
in our number two? Is he ice? Yeah? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That sounds so personal with you and McDowell, I'll probably
just say that one out if you're good, You.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Guys could just have at it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Thank you. I need him all to myself. I want
him all to myself, I do. But is he the
play in tournament which I said is a waste of time?
And here's what happened. Since I said it's a waste
of time, we have had the greatest playing game in
the history of playing games with the Hornet and Heat
and we had Steph Curry with a performance for the
Ages last night. I mean, I don't believe man.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Yeah, so good that guy.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
It's becoming like almost an expectation for Steph, Like if
there's a big game, a big moment, no matter what
his physical stature is, he's going to do something spectacular.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
And yesterday you could see the effort. You could see it.
It's a little harder than.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It used to be for Steve.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
It's a little bit more difficult. You can see some
of that effort. Really am putting it in there. But
when he hit that one to three and then fell
into the stands and asked the fan did it go in?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Good?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And then turned around and celebrated. I mean, that guy,
he's just a gift to basketball. He's so much fun
to watch. When you get a performance like that, you
say to yourself, I need that guy in the rest
of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Also, he has well play better during the regular season.
About that, well, he.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Was heard, so he couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's a question. When he asked the fan that question,
he knew the answer correct, of.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Course, Yeah, you know, he knew the answer. It was
this classic Steph Currage. Just the best probably celebrator in
the history of basketball.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Stu I am shocked that this was the angle you
took from this Warriors game. Ye, I'm logged into your
Twitter account so I could post poll questions faster.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And yesterday I'm watching the I'm watching a baseball game.
I have the Warriors game on and a smaller TV,
but I'm not really paying too much attention to it.
But all of a sudden, I start getting notifications left
and right, and I'm like, what is happening right now?
And then I look to the Warriors game and Al
(05:27):
Horford is turning back the clocks. He goes four for
four in the fourth quarter from three, and it feels
like whenever Al Horford does something, that's a chance for
a Stu Gott's victory lap.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yes, listen, I have said Al Horford should be a
first ballot Hall of Famer. He has multiple championships. He's
one of the best power forwards to ever play the game.
He can shoot threes, he can defend, he can grab rebounds,
he does the little things. Whatever you need Al Horford
to do, he does them for you. And I am
telling you the so Celtics do not win that NBA
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championship if not for one Al Horford.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
How about that is huh yeah, no, I mean that
was his only Well.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
You don't say three? Well, I just.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Could hung up on you saying he got multiple championships,
were you including college?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Well, I just whatever, he's Al Horford, I mean, yeah, no, no,
just making sure.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I just didn't want to mislead the people because I
know in your brand you're thinking he's a three time champion.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeh ok two of them were in college. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Listen, one for alcouts is three. Okay. That's the way
I look at he's that important to a team.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
He is and Al Horford. What Al Horford brings to
the table for a team Steve Gotts is kind of
right in Al Horford's prime, if you could get five
Al Horfords, I like that team's chance to win a
time Taylor.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
I don't even think it has to be in his prime.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Horford has somehow gotten like, not necessarily better, but more
useful the older he gets, because that three point shots
so much more reliable. And I don't know what it is,
whether it's reputation or what, but his on ball defense
continues to be great. How I have no idea I
think he might get away with a few things, but
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at his age, he should not be able to stop
guards at his size, but somehow he does.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Everyone makes it into that Basketball Hall of Fame. It's
why I hate that Hall of Fame is Al Horford
Does he have a chance to get it? And he'd
be first ballot for me if it were my decisions.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So yeah, because it's the Basketball Hall of Fame, the
Naysmith Hall of Fame, and you can include his back
to back championships in college.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's a possibility, but I think it's a
real long shot. Like how many All Star Games has
he made? Too? Maybe so Stu.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I'm on Basketball Reference right now and they have their
Hall of Fame probability. Yeah, Al Horford is at twenty
six point five percent, so really it's not looking too well.
But maybe he has a opposite of Russell Wilson, where
if the Warriors could go on a run and they
win a title, he could.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Get himself into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And Al Horford he is aging like a fine wine.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Oh he really is. He's got ten years left at least. Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I've kind of I think I changed my mind on
that he's made five All Star Games. Yeah, and historically,
at least in my mind, ever since I believe it
was Mitch Richmond made the Hall of Fame with five
All Star Games. I was like, Okay, that's the minimum.
You get five your Hall of Fame potential.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
He's got his five.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
He got five, he's got two national championships, he's got
an NBA championship. Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown they've never
won one without him. I mean, how about that? The
same about Drew Holliday.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
The reason why.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I want Al Horford to get in is because you're
looking at some of the numbers Al Horford's put up
in his career. He's a twelve point seven points per
game career scorer, seven point seven rebounds, three point two assists.
If Al Horford gets in, we have the new answer
for who is the worst Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
We watch your tongue, young man numbers. He's about little things, okay.
It's about what he says in a time out. It's
about a pregame speech, a little halftime motivation. It's how
he takes the rookies under his wing and he teaches
them the ropes of the NBA. That's what Al Horford
is all about. Anything he gives you in the way
in numbers is just a bonus, Taylor.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
He was an All Star in twenty eighteen, which seems
way too recent for him to have been an All Star.
Average for the season twelve point nine points, seven point
four rebound, Yeah, fit somehow in defensive Player of the
Year ranking.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I'm telling you, man, everybody loves them, Sam al.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Horford, who doesn't Draymond Green's gonna get into the Hall
of Fame right easily? Correct?
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Obviously he might already be there, really somehow.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
He was so good last night. You loved Draymond Green's
game last night, didn't you.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
So it's it's.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Crazy because Steve Kur said after the game, and he's not.
This isn't the first time he said this, suggesting that
he might be the best defensive player of all time.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Who you think of when you think greatest defensive player
in NBA history. Maybe Bill Russell. But if you're thinking
Bill Russell, you need to update that. I think Jordan
might be.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You think Jordan, I mean Jordan pip In. You know
those two goes pretty much, well, that's two people.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
He almost only thinks Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
What it's really about it. I mean, that's what makes
him so great. He was just as good defensively as
he was offensively anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Okay, and you don't think that Draymond Green. Maybe, look,
take a deep breath, think about this. Okay, maybe it's
possible that Draymond Green is a better defensive player than
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Let's do it this way. Okay, you take a deep breath. Right,
Imagine Draymond guarding Michael and Michael guarding Draymon. Huh. It's
a good point, thank you. Michael would light Draymond up
for fifty.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Fifty every night, But how does that make him at.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Out? We'll go from one of tech. Thank you, Taylor,
go ahead.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
So I believe that's what we in the business call
a checkmate.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
If that's the case, I don't know how to play chess.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I don't know how this game is played, Taylor, putting
on the polls that you control my Twitter account? Is
that what we in the business call it? Checkmate?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
The only way?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So if Michael Jordan was playing one on one against
Draymond Green, and then playing a second one on one
game against himself, then we would know who the better
defender is I gut they're both defending Michael Jordan. But
I'm pretty sure I'll take this back after I say it,
but I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I can defend Draymond Green for about a point.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Okay, you don't need to be the greatest defender of
all time to defend Draymond Green. So I don't really
know if I buy that, but hey, i've been checkmated.
I'm not gonna do about it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I am now looking up Michael Jordan. How many times
he made the NBA All Defensive First Team.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Oh, it was not all of them, all of them,
he made all of them.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
All right, we'll take a quick time out here eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox. I don't know why
I'm giving out that phone number since we have Roder
McDowell coming up next, but I wanted to ask the question,
Jordan or Draymond who's the better defender? Eight seven seven nine.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You know that's going to come back MJ like you
know that is he? I'm sorry, it's good to me this. Yes, no,
I don't hate this. It just depends on who the
audience is, right. If it's a bunch of people over
thirty five they're all going to say, Jordan, if it's
a bunch of under thirties, they're gonna actually think about it.
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think about It Thursday. As Taylor continues to counter program
a local show down in Miami. So Chris give me
the imaging please?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
You know that segment talk about a Tuesday on Howks
Crowder and soamiro. This is like that, but bigger, bigger
and better, better, better, and forty eight hours later, this
is think about It Thursday.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Imaging so formal. It is great imaging, Chris, you don't
want to know how much we spent on that imaging.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I don't have dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
By the way, the Yankee trailing now six to four daily.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
My least favorite team. You're gonna you have kids, one
of your kids is your least favorite kid. This just
happens to be my least favorite Yankee team. Doesn't mean
I don't love them, just my least favorite.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I understand, Yes, So today's.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Think about It Thursday. The White Sox are honoring their
super fan, Pope Leo with a Pope hat giveaway in August.
It was initially announced as a special ticket giveaway, but
it was so popular amongst their fans that they've decided
now everybody in attendance will get said hat. So my
question for you guys, what are the best and worst
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promotional giveaways at a sporting event?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Well, that's the worst.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I can't imagine an entire crowd of people in Pope
hats is gonna look good, nor are you do you
can you imagine what they're going to do with it afterward?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Like when are you going to sport this pope hat?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Right? And it's August, I mean a little hot for uh, you.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Know, someone's gonna throw off in that pope hat from.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Two put it on the ball tailer is so I'm
gonna throw up in the po pat from Too much beer.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Does kind of make you look like a Game of
Thrones character.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Though, so for me, my favorite giveaway growing up as
a kid going to Yankee games was bat Day. I
can remember being seven years old and walking out a
Yankee stadium with a full sized bat, which was awesome swinging.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
That little sized really yep, full size. They can't still
be doing that.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
No, I highly doubt it, but full sized bat just
swinging it in the parking lot. Bibblehead Nights kind of
hit or miss for me. The Yankees do a George
Costanza bibblehead night, which is popular. Sometimes they get a
little too cute with the bobbleheads, like Max Fried has
a Mandalorian bobblehead Night where he's dressed up as the
Mandalorian's that's a.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Little too cute.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
For me, I think babbleheads always land as a promotional
item in terms of getting excited, and then if it
lets you down, it lets you down. That's part of
the thing, right, I think bibbleheads are pretty much number
one kind of gold standard giveaway.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I've got two Aaron Eck Blad bobbleheads in my house.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I have no idea why. I'm not a huge Blad fan.
Just got happened to go to that game, and you
can't throw those away.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
A couple of bobbleheads cutting it up. Huh.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
One of them is still in the box just in
case Aaron neck really in mid condition.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So Stu.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Actually, after this show today, I'm getting on a flight
and going back to New York for the week, and
I'm thinking about going to the Yankee game tomorrow just
because of the giveaway they're doing. It's a hockey jersey giveaway,
but the hockey jersey is a Yankee jersey.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That one's interesting that the shirt or close giveaway is
always tough because the sizes are not they don't ary, right,
They're just gonna give you a large size and hope
you can deal with it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
What are you thinking here? Is he do you have one.
I'm thinking about it. That's what I'm doing. It's not good.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
This is just a think about It Thursdays, so you're
supposed to think about it, so it's.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Not like we're waiting for a final, firm answer.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I do think you mentioned that day. I think mini
bats or mini anything like. If you give me a
mini basketball, I'm all about it.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Now.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You can't really give those away in a basketball game
because it probably have three hundred of them end up
on the court somehow.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
But you give me a mini item of some sort,
I'm down.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, I am. I'm looking at some promotions right now.
In nineteen forty two, the Giants had scrap Metal Night.
I mean it's terrible. Free admission for bringing scrap metal
resulted in ten thousand children causing a field invasion and
a forfeitted game. I mean that you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Said nineteen forty two. Yeah, probably probably for the war.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, yeah, scrap metal was big back then. You're right,
I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yes, Stu, I have a guest that wants to contribute
on Today's Think About It Thursday. Really it's it's Ai
Colin Coward.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well, this is exciting. We haven't heard from Ai Colin
Coward in quite some time. This is very very exciting.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Colin, Hey, Ai Colin Coward.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
What are the best and worst promotional giveaways at a
sporting event?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
The best giveaways are the ones you actually use or display. Bobbleheads,
replica jerseys, a good hat, even a seat cushion for
a long game. The worst ones are the why did
you even make this items? Bags of soil, tiny squares
of bubble wrap, weird novelty stuff that ends up in
the parking lot before the second quarter. A great promo
feels like a souvenir and a flex. A bad promo
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feels like clutter with a.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Logo, what do you think about the White Sox while
honoring Pope Leo with the Pope hat giveaway?
Speaker 7 (18:35):
I love it. Sports is supposed to be fun and
a Pope hat shaped like a miter with the White
Sox logo is the kind of weird, memorable giveaway people
actually keep, and the move to give it to everybody
On August eleventh against Cincinnati, smart nothing kills a promo
like telling most of the stadium sorry, you don't qualify.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
And Colin, you didn't even mention that Pope Leo is
a White Sox fan, which kind of adds to the
entry of it.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Yeah, it's cool because it's real. He's a Chicago guy.
He's been a longtime White Sox fan, and he's not
hiding it. Even when somebody yells go Cubs and he
fires back. They lost. That's the whole charm. It makes
him feel like a normal fan with a global job.
That's not a gimmick, that's personality.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Do you think it's a bit dangerous for teams to
give away full sized baseball bats at games?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, that's that's playing with fire.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Handing out full sized baseball bats to a crowd is
just begging for one idiot to turn the concourse into
a problem. Teams already deal with foul balls and broken
bats flying into seats, so why add another hard object
that can become a weapon or a liability. If you
want the vibe, do a mini bat or a foam bat,
same fun, none of the chaos.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Wow is he he?
Speaker 4 (19:48):
You agree with your point?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I mean, hey, I don't know how is he feels
about that? I mean, but better than the actual college,
I mean, he's quicker, he's better.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yeah, better than any of us.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Too.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I'm worried about my job.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
Frankly, every time he played AI call and I'm like, Wow,
what would I be as a fast food worker or
something like that, because I don't think I can do
better than Ai Colin.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
We have any more. He's so good. I mean, listen
the third question. I forget what it was, but he
would fumble around for at least two minutes before he
gave an answer. Not Ai Collin. Ai Colin spits it
right back at you. So Taylor Man, he should be
hosted a show this What did he say? You useless
giveaway like a bag of soil. Yeah, yes, they've done
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that before.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Bag of soil night.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
That was the real thing.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, if I.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Had a guess, it's like, you just get some outfield dirt.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Because in terms of practicality, hey, throw this in your
garden something like that. You know, maybe not the worst
thing in the world, but in terms of carrying it
around practically during a game, not the best.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So Stu. Actually, one time I took a tour of
Yankee Stadium when I was probably seven or eight, and
the only thing I got on the tour I went
with a ziploc bag and I went to the warning track,
and when I went to the warning track, I looked
to see if anybody was looking. I bent down. I
scooped as much of the warning track into said bag,
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and then I put it on my wall with tape
and my mom was looking at it, like, you gotta
take that down.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
That is dirt.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
My mom's an interior decorator, and she was like, we
are not putting dirt up on your wall.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, but did you tell her mom, this is not
just any sort of dirt here, Okay, this is dirt
from the Yankee outfield. And did it change her minds?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I mean no, she didn't care. So I think where
she was mad is my dad would always take me
to these things. And my dad would never say no
to anything one because he's Italian and he doesn't really
understand the significant impact that some of these things had.
Like when I went to a Yankee red socket in
one time, I was like, Dad, can I buy the shirt?
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And it was one of those shirts that says Buck
Foston and he was like he was like, yeah, I
don't understand that. So I'm going back to the house
and I'm like all sly wearing it. And the second
my mom sees it. She took that shirt off me
as I was walking in and in one sweet motion,
threw it in the.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Trash I love, and then yelled me your dad.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah, this is Italian man raising this new found American
who's learning his way than this country.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
It's just like Buck Foston. What does that mean is
that one of the players. Is it Boston? Any good?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh? My god? Is he? How do we feel about
in twenty sixteen the Brewers did paint your own Bobblehead night?
About that?
Speaker 9 (22:42):
Man?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
That is lazy?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, dude, don't make me do the work. Brewers, seriously,
do me a favorite. Don't make me do the work.
Peyt No, damn bobblehead And when I get there, just
give it to me.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
But if you were in the front office, dude, you
would make the fans.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Do the work. Right.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
That's a stud God's front office.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I've ever seen one.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
For me, cat Nights the most overrated. I don't think
I've ever worn a hat giveaway.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Oh man, you scared me for a second. I thought
you said cat Night.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Could you imagine the chaos if they allow us a
bunch of cats in a stadium like they do the dogs.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Wow, that would be insane.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I'm certain they have. By the way, dog night, I mean,
do me a favor. I go to a baseball game
to watch baseball. I don't need to deal with a dog.
Leave him at home.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gotson Company
Live Weekday. Said three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I want to play some sound for Israel Goudyeirez from
one Stephen A. Smith, the greatest of all time, the
greatest ever do this. You're debating that.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Really it should be debated, right, every goat debate should
have especially with Steven A.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Wait, you guys don't view him as the goat of
sports media.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I mean all time is a long time sale is
up there.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
So I've viewed Steven A. Smith as the goat of
sports media. But Steven A. Smith himself would respect the
fact that we're even having this debate.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
You're right, I'm sorry, but Steven A. Smith, for me,
is the greatest to ever do this. I am the
commissioner of sports radio and he is on my all
time sports media team.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But I want to play some sound and get the
reaction from one Israel goody eras because we have spoken
you and I is he about Kawhi Leonard. What a
polarizing figure he is, and last night Steph Curry bounced
him out of the playoffs. Here is Steven A. Smith
talking about Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
He's supposed to be the face of the franchise.
Speaker 10 (24:39):
The last five years, the Clippers have missed the playoffs,
got bounced in the first round the next three years,
and now they've missed the playoffs again. So as far
as I'm concerned, if you're talking about how to view
his season individually, in terms of his numbers averaging nearly
twenty eight and six on the season, of course those
numbers are very, very impressive, But in the same break,
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the investment that has been made in him over the
years has not reached fruition his ability to carry a
team to something that isn't true because he's gone home
in the first round or they've missed the playoffs the
last five damn years, and it's solidified the fact that
he is not the person that you would want as
the leader of your franchise. His individual skills are what
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they are, but in terms of galvanizing the troops, in
terms of carrying a franchise and all the responsibilities that
come with it.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
That's not him, really, who was doing it in Toronto?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Who was that.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Who've galvanized troops in Toronto and led them and won
a championship with them over the arguably greatest team of
all time, although it was injured Warriors. Like, that's one
of the most ridiculous takes I've ever heard. If you
look at the last few years, if you just come
onto a microphone and say, I don't think Kawhi Leonard
should be the leader of your franchise because he's always hurt,
(26:01):
I'm good with that. You can There's nothing I can
say about that. He played two playoff games in twenty three.
He played two playoff games in twenty four, Okay, so
it wasn't like he was there for all of that
first round even And so yeah, we have multiple examples
of if Kawhi Leonard was the leader of your team,
that he can win you a championship. Frankly, he probably
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should have three, if not for one big ray Allen shot.
So I just feel like Kawhi Leonard is misunderstood because
he likes his privacy, likes to be quiet, and when
it comes to a no nonsense basketball player. Listen, he
leads the league and no nonsense, Like, there is absolutely
zero nonsense in that dude.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Okay, So that's the type of player you want.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Like if Kawhi Leonard was on the Miami Heat and
you're gonna tell me he's.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Gonna stay healthy. What a perfect extension of the coach
on the floor.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And that guy even if you make him, you tell
him to run, he's probably not gonna run.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
But still he is a.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Perfect extension of the coach out there. And I just
I just don't buy it. It's just recency biases.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
What that is?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Taylor put it on the poll. Please, does Kawhi Leonard
lead the league in no nonsense?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Not a single ounce of nonsense, right buddy?
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And I understand what you're saying. I also understand kind
of what Steven A. Smith is saying. He's not consistent
enough in terms of playing where you want him to
lead your franchise, in terms of just being available. But
and I think that's part of the frustration with Kawhi
Leonard is he we all see the greatness every single
time he takes the court. We could see just how
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great that guy is as a basketball player and a competitor,
by the way, and he has won two NBA titles,
But I think there is a feeling amongst NBA fans
that if that guy were simply available, if he treated
his career slightly differently than he has, that's a guy
that should have four or five NBA championships. Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, when you say treated his career the way that
he has, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Just you know, all the games off, not being ready
for certain moments, just stuff like that, whatever happened after
he won the first title in San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
But that's all just it's actual injury issues that he's
dealing with. He's not just sitting out because maybe he'll
get hurt.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
He has.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
He's had a knee condition that he's had to navigate
his entire career. That's why it was so confusing when
he was leaving the Spurs and nobody could figure out
exactly what the issue was. So, you know, there are people,
lesser players who might have retired with that type of uh,
you know, knee situation that have enough money that you
know they never have to worry about money again. Instead,
(28:35):
he found a way to win another championship, found a
way to build get himself on a Clippers team that
might actually be legitimate. So I don't think him missing
time is a knock on him on how he.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Approaches his career. That is strictly injury management.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So Kawhi Leinner, for you, is a guy that you
would want to lead your basketball team, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
But only if I knew he could actually be healthy.
So I don't think many people even predicted he would
stay healthy this year. And you saw when he was
healthy how good these Clippers were, And so I think
that's the problem. I think that's where the uncertainty comes,
even with James Harden. When James Harden's asking out, it's
not necessarily because he doesn't believe that Kawhi Leonard and
he can lead a team. It's because you might not
(29:13):
believe Kawhi Leonard is going to be around, and especially
when you think of you know, the potential and obviously
didn't happen this year, But any sort of punishment he
gets from the Aspiration deal and potentially you know, circumventing
the salary cap, all that stuff was in people's minds too.
But if you tell me next year. Hey, if you
tell Kawhi, hey, you felt pretty good this year, you
think you can keep that up for whatever it is
(29:33):
seventy of eighty two next year in the playoffs. Absolutely,
I'm taking that guy to lead my team.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Stuart the Clippers. With the Clippers missing the playoffs thanks
to the Paul George trade, Oklahoma City now has a
pick in this year's lottery. They currently have a seven
point one percent chance to move up in the top four.
Is he when you're when you're looking at this trade,
I'm first off shocked that this trade is still still
(30:01):
seeing the effects.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Of it benefits for Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yes, right, when when you factor in just that a
one for one trade of SGA for Paul George would
have been a win for OKC. Then you add in
the fact that one of the picks they got back
turned into Jalen Williams. Now they have an additional lottery
pick coming up. Could you make the argument this is
one of the most lopsided trades in NBA history, Yeah,
(30:26):
I think it was.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
It's already probably the most.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
You know, there are trades where somebody clearly overpaid, like
Michael Bridges and all the first rounders for the Knicks.
But that's you know, out of desperation. That's like a
finishing piece, if you will, for a team for a
trade like this to be two franchise type players, or
at least one. At the time, you didn't even know
(30:51):
what Shay was going to be. So when Shay turns
out to be a better player than Paul George, it's
already lopsided, right because they obviously had to give up
so much more to get them.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
So you throw in all those It's just it seems
like the trade that never ends. It's like you mentioned Taylor.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
So there's a seven point one percent chance for OKC
to move up into the lottery or to move up
into the top four in the lottery. Stu, there's a
scenario where the Thunder are the NBA champs for back
to back years and then the lottery plays out, and
who do they add to their team? AJ Debontsa, Yeah,
(31:30):
Darren Peterson, maybe Caleb Wilson from North Carolina, Cam Boozer
from from Duke. There's a chance that this Thunder team
is on the vert Well, it's we're already there, that this.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Is already there.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yes, we're in the middle on the verge of a dynasty.
They might just get more reinforcements added to said Dinastasy.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
And it's not even necessarily just reinforcements, right, it's replacements
for when the other guys get expensive. Hey, Chet Holdenman,
what have you done for me to you know, to
pay you max super max money? Okay, we're gonna stick
with cam Boozer maybe you know. I think it just
it gives them so many options to remain good and
you're not in salary cap hell, because you know they
(32:08):
planned ahead and got a little lucky with SGA.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Hopefully they use that pick on someone who plays the
game in an exciting fashion because they lead the league
in ZZZ plus. I mean, how about that got someone
who could dunk? As that said. By the way, the
last time Kawhi Leonard played seventy plus games is he
twenty and sixty?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
I didn't think it was in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I got to go wow.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I mean, but I think that's what Steve and a
Steven as absolutely factoring that in that part of it.
In you don't want him leading your team because he's
never going to play seventy games unlike SGA.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Right, Listen, Toronto chose one year to man have that
guy lead that team. He's got the ultimate prize, so
name namely another guy who did that on a one
year loan when and.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Gave an entire country a championship, Like come on, like
we get what's happened lately.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
We've always known that his knee would be a problem,
but it was supposed to be a problem that year
in Toronto.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
They managed it.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
They you know, only had him play a certain number
of games, whatever, sixty games that year won a championship.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So yes, I mean he did win the Raptors a championship.
They kept going to the playoffs with Kyle Lowry who
you know, I think Teres Max. He told us was retiring,
but they kept getting there with DeRozan and Lowry and
Lowry and DeRozan and DeRozan and Lowry, and they kept
getting bounced out in the second round. And then incomes
Kawhi Leonard boom NBA title.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
If I was Kawhi Leonard, I'd be a little less
worried about that knee and more worried about Pablo Torre
sniffing around.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
It's crazy how nothing has come of that.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Like there it feels like this is just one of
those things where they're just gonna let Kawhi's career end
and it's like we never.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Got to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Oh well, yeah, put it on the pole, Taylor. What'sh
your Kawhi Leonard be more worried about his knee or
Pablo Torre? And I can answer the question. I love that,
I love Pablo, and I say this respectfully, but no
one cares. Stu.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
They asked him about that yesterday after they lost. Yeah,
the headline says, Kawhi mom on Clipper's future. Also, he's
not stressing the NBA's aspiration probe.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
He's always mom and he's never stressing.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I mean, now I've got Pablo Torre and like some Corduroys,
a white T shirt with like a little sweater over it,
just going to the floor, smacking the hardwood and just
standing right in front of Kawai Leonard and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I'm just saying, is he I have too many things
in my life to worry about that. That how Kawhi
gets his money, where he's getting it from is not
one of them. I mean, I like fans lit, they
got enough stress in their own life. They don't care
about that stuff. Just give me a game, give me Kawhi,
give me a big game. Let me turn it on
and entertain me. That's all I'm saying. All Right, No,
who cares. I'll tell you who cares?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
The old school players who are already mad that the
new school players get all this money to begin with,
and now they get secret money and we're supposed to
be okay with it. Where was that secret money when
I was playing in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Dang it, Sean Merriman is going, I'm looking forward to this.
Shawn Merriman was a menace when he played in the NFL,
an amazing athlete. I'm really looking forward to this. Tailor,
you had something.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, we have a caller actually, who wants to talk
Kawhi Leonard?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Really wow? No one calling in on Draymond or Jordan?
Who's the better defender? Huh? Eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox? That is eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
We'll take a call here. Let's go to Mark in Miami. Mark,
go ahead, you're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (35:37):
What's up, fellows? Yeah, as far as the pole questions,
Jordan's by a landslide. It's not even close. Draymond's great lee,
but he's not on He's not nowhere near. An MJ
was the best elite perimeter defender and I don't think
there's a close debate on that. As far as Kawhi goes. Guys,
I've never Everybody talks about the Luca trade being the
worst trade. To me, this is my father worst trade.
(35:59):
When you look up all the assets the Clippers gave
up in that trade, you basically gave up an MVP
of the league. You set up a dynasty there in
Oklahoma City. The Clippers are still irrelevant, even though they
got the richest owner in all the sports and Bombers,
they probably got the nicest arena in all the sports,
and they still don't move the needle. There's a redhead
to steps out in their own city. And as great
(36:19):
as Kwahi is, he's the most odd superstar I think
maybe in the history of sports. He doesn't talk, he's mute,
he has no brands. He's just an all around great player,
but nobody knows anything about him. The only thing we
know he has a bizarre laugh and he has a
new balance steel that we discovered because he's in that commercial.
But at least for the mass you could say they
got Cooper Flagg, who to me is gonna be a
(36:41):
generational talent. So when you look at all those factors, guys,
to me, the Clippers making that trade and now they
have no assets left and they're pretty much gonna reboot,
and probably Kawhi is gonna is gonna bolt. And so
I'm just hoping that the Heat hand because I know
Miami's deperate. We haven't landed a whale. I think they're
gonna make a play for Kawahi. I really hope they don't.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
That's what I was gonna ask you, Mark.
Speaker 9 (37:02):
This is an anomaly. This is this year has been anomaly.
He's not gonna stay healthy. He's gonna play probably about
thirty games next year, and then he will be dumb
enough to the real aman and give him on a
big max deal to take him. So they better not
do it, guys, because I'm healing rumblings they're gonna be
that desperate to really go after him because of the
playing team that we become year after years. So I'm
just saying for Heat Nation, please don't do it, because
(37:24):
I have a bad feeling, guys that they're gonna be
so desperate they're gonna bite and take it. So thanks
for the time, fellas.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Get that Man Break podcast.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, great, call rack them. I mean to Mark Show.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Oh, Mark in Miami, that's what we go back.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yes, yes, Mark, I'm gonna give him find me on
social media. I'm gonna give you the hotline number so
you can just buzz in whenever you.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Want the hot You don't give anyone the hotline number.
What are you're gonna give it the Mark?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Mark in Miami just earned it.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
He did make me.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
He did make me think about a timeline where that
trade doesn't happen and it's just Kawhi, Leonard and SGA
on the Clippers and we all have to be serious
about the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, how about his Jordan take?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Though?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Huh it was wrong?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
What I mean? He was a defensive Player of the Year,
nine time first Team All NBA Defense. What okay, we'll
see Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Sean barn he was a great perimeter defender as a
man said, so we'll see Draymond he one through five.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
He didn't say that he was great. He said he
was the greatest of all time. That's what he said.
He said market He said.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
It was the greatest perimeter defender. And I was like, okay,
so that Raymond does more?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Do you know the hotline number?
Speaker 9 (38:32):
I did?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
That I don't get for nothing, right, That's why Taylor
didn't give it to you. He gave it to Mark.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Okay, I mean you and Mark and Miami are going
to have a podcast
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