May 4, 2026 • 49 mins
On this edition of the Best of Stugotz and Company LIVE!: Stu and the guys welcome Giants' great and long-time NFL analyst Phil Simms onto the show to talk about the NFL draft and all of the headlines around the league. Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos in for Stu and the guys as they discuss the Celtics' collapse against the Sixers as Boston's post-season ends much sooner than expected. Dan and Monse discuss the question of whether or not Joel Embiid is now a feel-good story in the NBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is the best of Stu Gotson Company Live on
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
Oh do we love this man?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I am not certain anyone puts a bigger smile on
our faces collectively than Phil Simms. Great quarterback, great media
career after he was a quarterback. His son is a
good friend of ours and joins us every week. He's
been texting me from Europe. He's crazy, Chris Simms, but
Phil Simms is not. And I listen, we had a
(00:43):
conversation right before we started here. I'm gonna let mikey
A ask the first question. It's a great question, So
mikey A, the floor is yours.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I didn't hear any great questions.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know it's coming right now.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well we'll get a great answer, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
But you said that you don't give it, You don't
give a And I was just curious, how do you
get to I don't give a crap?
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Is it age?
Speaker 7 (01:04):
Is it money?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
What is it that I can do to get to
I don't give a crap. How do you arrive there?
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Phil?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Hey, the first thing is it sure's a hell. Ain't
about money, because I didn't make any anywhere. So you
played fifteen years?
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, my starting salary was sixty thousand, and we progressed
a little bit every year.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I mean, so that's one thing.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
And ages definitely is I'm hired the crap that I
read and see, and I turn the TV on every
morning and my kids make fun of me. Why are
you watching all those shows? All you do is get mad?
I said, yeah, nobody gives me. It just makes me
want to fight more. And so I was watching the film.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
No you weren't.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
You couldn't have been watching because your take is absolutely
wrong and stupid. But you're telling a big audience out there,
you know what I mean, Yes, all the people to
listen to. Oh yeah, he's smart, he must be right. No, No,
it's every day. So I do let it pass. And
of course my young son met who's in the business too.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
He goes, you know, a big guy, just let it go.
You know, you can't, you know, And I said, yeah,
I know, I know.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Really what I what would love to do is have
a show and just go Today, here are the top
five stupidest things said by people on teav.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I say stupid things too every once in a while,
get it wrong.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
But I'm gonna tell you I never talk about something
unless I really know right, So you know, oh you mean,
I got.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
To do a little homework, could tell the truth.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Think of it this way, guys, Hey, mom's, dad's wife, kids, whatever,
are listening to some of these shows, and when what
else are they? You know, even the fans, what did
they go by? What they read and what they hear.
So I think that's a big responsibility for the press
to try to do the right thing.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Phil, I am all in for a daily show, and
would you give us the top five dumbest thing said everything? Yeah,
well listen about every single to say, you know, featured,
I got enough.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I got enough people that don't like me, so I'm
gonna try to keep it a level g ra ra ra.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
As Bill Parcell said to me sometimes during my career,
it was kind of getting late and he was he goes,
he sims, don't worry when you quit, the fans.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Are going to like you. And I went, is that
a is that a compliment.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Quit.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
The fans are going to like you. Well, Bill when
you retire.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Uh maybe, well whatever, think about I'm gonna write a
book and I'm going to have two chapters on Lawrence Taylor,
and then I don't know how many chapters I'm gonna
have on Parcels. But damn to get even with him,
I'd have to write the whole book about him, because man,
he listen, we want and I tell people all the time,
(03:54):
I love him, will do anything for him.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And I'm here on this show today just because because
of him.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
He's a big reason. He helped us win two Super Bowls.
So you know, can't can't hate a guy for that?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Was he? Yes, did he ever have a day where
he came out and he was nice? No? He had
the great ability to every day to drive.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You you know it was you know, look, thinking back,
I go, you know, he could have gone out one
day and go, okay, guys, just take it in.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
We had a great workout, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, never, Phil, Phil, do you remember Taylor? You were
at the barn for the draft. Chris was doing a
show there. Do you remember Taylor just kind of hanging
around the barn there?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
What was going on.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know, I don't remember much about it. A lot
of people. I wasn't drinking.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
I don't really drink, right, I was trying to watch,
you know, Christopher and his his sidekick do this thing.
And I'm just going, gone, I'm glad you're doing it,
because I sure as the hell wouldn't want to do
what you're doing there.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Oh, we're surprised about the pick and you know whatever.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I know, Sorry, I didn't I wasn't zooming on and
zooming in.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And a lot of people. Man, there were a lot
of people there too.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Too many people, right, I mean for a draft.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I mean it's not that complicated, right. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
They were doing the social post I guess and all that.
So everybody I did notice, everybody was working.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So my executive producer who's on the zoom with us
right now, Taylor, he was in the barn. What a
great night, a special night for him to be able
to take in the draft with the Simms family.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
He did.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
He did take a video of you at one point
drinking a diet coke and eating baby carrots. I believe,
and I got to tell you Phil that it was shocking.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
But that is what draft night is all about.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I mean, hey, man, let me just tell you something.
This ageing. Yeah, it's real, Okay.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I don't have what you do, so I try to
watch what I eat a little bit, because I am
the one great thing that I can do in life.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I can eat with anybody. I'm serious. I eat two
bread I've already had two breakfasts today.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
We'll get out of here here, come on, I mean,
Phil with Tapa. This at nine thirty in the morning.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I mean, oh, well, well, you know some of us
get up early, right, And that's the other thing with age,
you know. I look at the clock and I say
five thirty. I go, let me try to sleep another
twenty minutes. But usually I just got I walk to
hell and I get up. So I get up early,
have an early breakfast, and then you know, a two
hours later, I'm ready to eat again. Of course, all
(06:32):
you got to do is ask my sons. They laughed
their ass off about me. God Almighty, you can eat.
I said, yeah, you know why, because I starved the
whole life, growing up in the house with eight kids.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And that's right, yeah, so I was all the sacrifices
you made, right, you spent all the money on them,
that's right.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, well, yeah, so whatever. At one time this off season,
I was up to two sixty three.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah, no, wow, and you know, damn, you know my
clothes didn't fit. But it just felt good. But I
realized I had to dropped back down. Now I'm at
two forty five, so man, so I have to cut down.
I'm eating my one joy and I'm pretty good cooked too.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
Yeah, we know.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Better be a decent cook too.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Did you cook yourself breakfast this morning? Or what? Twice?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Of course yes. What was the first one, if you
don't mind me asking the early one?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, I had a big bowl of yogurt with blueberry
strawberries crushed.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Not almonds. Well, I do have those two walnuts.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, you know, pour a little something on top of it,
smash it, watch a little TV, drink one cup of
coffee or tea.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And then I had four eggs.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Fried and I put them on toast and put all
this other stuff on it, which is man, I eat it.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
So it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Go ahead tell So.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
The reason why I'm such a great guess at things
like this watch party is because I'm wallpaper there.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
I'm not there to interact with.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You don't even know he's there, right, Yeah, yeah, I'm
not gonna.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
We didn't even talk, did we.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
We talked for a little, but people people were stut
Gott's and Mikey were like, what's Phil doing? What's Phil doing?
I'm here to report. Nobody ate more fruit that night
than feel sense.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Oh wow, yeah, yeah, I was caught.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
You know, I probably had dinner before we went up there.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
But what's with the carrots? What are you doing there?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I mean, hey, just trying to fill up. But I
don't like it until I feel like.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
God, damn, I'm full.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, yes, great feeling for me.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So you love the full feeling and you love feeling
you loved like two sixty five was a good wait
for you. You're saying that's odd.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Oh I loved it. I love it?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, Like, man, you know, I'm just gon boy. I
wish i'd waited like this when I was younger. I
really would have taken some people down.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
He would have played linebacker.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
No you know, oh yes, Phil, what did you make
of the Uh?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Well, it's hard because no one knows so you're right.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So Phil, like Chris is sitting there doing his thing,
but no one really knows how good these draft picks
are going to be. But what did you make of
John Harbaugh's first draft as as the Giants head coach.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, it went great, it really did.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
You know, I didn't study all the guys they drafted,
but I know getting rvel Rees that was a great start.
Getting the lineman from Miami is another one. So you
got two big dudes on a team. Now, that makes
the team bigger, better, physically, all that stuff. And that's
John Harball's way, and the Giants I think got away
from that for years. I mean, Bill Parcells always had
(09:47):
a thing, well, if we can't make our decision up,
just take the bigger guy, you know, and it's you know,
the other thing is too just about you know, why
do they draft rvil Rees?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
A lot of people complained about that.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
They got this and you know, and I learned this
from George Young and Coach Parcels, don't be afraid of adding.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
On to one of the strengths of your team.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Stinking We did that, and you know, we had an
unbelievable lineback in court, and we draft this guy, Carl Banks.
I went, oh my god, how many linebackers do we need?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
He's a Hall of famer.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, I know, he should be a Hall of Famer.
I mean Carl Banks.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
You know, as time went on, and it was pretty early,
maybe about the second year, I went, oh my god,
he's not good.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
He was.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Carl was great.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yes, And you know, if.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Anybody wants to argue that with me, you can almost
look at any game, but look at the playoffs in
nineteen eighty six by our football team. He was phenomenal
in every game in the Super Bowl. Listen, there should
be a defensive MVP in the Super Bowls, you know,
because it's just it seems like it's just totally.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Always going to go to an offensive player, right Carl.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
When you watch the game, it was, it's unbelievable. Yes,
every series against Denver he made a play, made a
play and they were outstanding too. Plays that he would make.
It wasn't just like oh here he comes, I'll make
a tackle.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
But when you play with.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, you know we had Pepper Johnson
mere like god, yeah, Harry, reasons.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Just on and on.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You know, people don't pay enough attention to you, so
I'm always hey, I know Carl, but I'm not. I
don't like, we're not super super close because we don't
see each other that much. But one day he's going
to I think he's gonna get into the Hall of
Fame because he deserves it.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
What did you make of the Rams?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It was weird, the whole story. Trying to protect Matthew Stafford.
They made it clear he's the quarterback for now, when
Stafford's a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But they drafted for the future.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And I thought it was smart, and I thought it
was ridiculous the great lengths they went to to kind
of keep that secret.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, well, everything was just about I think it was
two things. I feel pretty confident in say this.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
It was two things.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
One, they wanted to make sure Matthew Stafford was understanding there.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Right, But you appreciate of course, right, yes? Sure?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
And you know the Giants strapped Dave Brown one year
in the first round. Yes, they actually called me and
told me. I said, hey, well, I said, wow, Dave
Brown do right?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah? Okay, But and.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
You were okay with it. You understood what they were doing, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
What what? How did you ask the question? At first?
That's well, well, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
So they went to great length. There was a secret
meeting with Tyle Simpson. They didn't want the news to
get out there. They wanted to make sure Stafford they
did all the right things. It just seemed it seemed
like they really went out of their way to announce Hey,
it's still Matthew Stafford's team.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
We know it's still Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
R right, And Matthew Stafford went to Los Angeles. I
had arguments all the time during the week. Well you
know he's never won a big game, you know, I said, yeah,
you know, you're right, You're right. Yeah, because many years
before the season started, I said, wow, Detroit, I think
they're a super Bowl team and then would go okay, okay,
point yeah, no kidding, no good, how are they gonna wait.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
If they want a game?
Speaker 5 (13:05):
It was a miracle, right, But I'll say this, I felt,
I said it many times. You can look it up
on podcasts whatever not that you want to or will
I will. I said, ty Simpson fits the Rams offense perfectly.
He's everything that you would want for that offense. And
Sean McVay Sean McVay had to look at him and go,
(13:29):
really good arm, very mobile, always too small. Well that
you know what, you don't have to really worry about
it as much because they do all those play actions
one way, they roll the other way, and they got
space all around them and just wait for somebody to
come open deep and rip it and that'll be Ty Simpson.
So Matthew Stafford, if I had to guess, it's going
(13:50):
to be one or two years. But you know, think
about this also, he plays hurt all the time every year.
And now if you get hitting Ty Simpson up to speed,
let's just give matt Stafford just one game off here
to recuperate and whatever. I think that's a big deal too,
because man, he played a couple of games this year.
(14:12):
It was unbelievable. He played, uh with the injurys he
was dealing with. But he's tough as hell and got
one of the greatest arms we've ever seen in the NFL.
I'm not saying Ty Simpson's arm is Matthew Stafford's, but
it's not far behind, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Right, And you like to fit in la with Pickay.
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, Phil, we're very friendly with h with Mike Golick
and his entire family. Did Mike Golick ever sack you?
Do you remember playing against Mike Golick Senior?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh? Yeah, sure, sure, yeah. I mean I don't remember
him hitting me because guys hitting me.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Because Jerome Brown, you know, I mean, my god, their
front seven was like.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And Golic, well, Golic does tell us that Reggie White
would look over to him before the ball was snapped
and he would say, hey, Mike, do me a favor.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Don't move or move backwards. And Mike would be like why,
and He's like, you get in my way?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Oh, I tell you.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I was working out one off season and right before
the draft, where a bunch of us and parcels comes
in and he looks and we start talking about the
draft just a little. He goes, ah, sims, our life
is about ready to change. And I go why, well,
why would what are you talking about? He goes this
this I think it was Detroit. Detroit is going to
screw us in the draft and the Eagles are going
(15:42):
to get Jerome Brown. And I went, oh, is he
is really as good as everybody says? He goes, hell,
he might be better than Reggie yellows. This is going to
be two ass weapons. I'm gonna take this year. I
won't even tell you the stories about my interactions with
with with Reggie White. They were I would say things,
(16:03):
you know, he was a minister that I should never
say to a minister, but I did right.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, it's football, so.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Of course we love you.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
We love you, we love your family. And it made
my day that you had no idea.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Taylor was in the same room with you the entire
evening watching the dress.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
True, I didn't want to get in.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
We were hanging out, all right, Phil, We'll talk to
you to Thanks for doing this.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
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Speaker 7 (16:40):
It absolutely is on a Monday, and not only will
you get us for the next two hours, you get
us for double that. That's what we get, Monty, double
us on a Monday, and on.
Speaker 10 (16:52):
The Force is with us.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
I don't know about everybody else, but the Force is
definitely with us.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
There will be some Star Wars talk coming up at
some point today of all the sounds Iowa Sam had
ready for today. Of course you knew it was going
to be. He actually criticized us. I think it was
a criticism that we did not wear Star Wars related
items today.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
He definitely was talking smack, but he did.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Iowa Sam, would you like to tell everyone your Star
Wars related apparel today?
Speaker 11 (17:27):
This might be the only thing that like Star Wars
related I own. It's kind of in their galaxy, far
far away. It says the power of the Clark side,
Caitlin Clark, Star Wars shaking hands?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
All right, may the fourth be with you? Can you
see that because we are streaming live on YouTube right now,
so you can see the shirt that Iowa Sam is
wearing as we speak. Jason Stewart's here. Isaac Lohnkron at
the news desk. We are down to an elite eight
in the NBA Playoffs. Mansey and the Boston Celtics looked
(18:02):
anything but elite in their Game seven loss on Saturday
to the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Yeah, what was that starting lineup? Can we start there?
Speaker 9 (18:10):
Can we start with the starting lineup for the Boston Celtics.
Absolutely in a Game seven, like not like a game
where you can test it things out, you know what
I'm saying, Like, this is it?
Speaker 10 (18:22):
And the starting lineup was a I had to do
a double take. I was like, am I tripping?
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (18:27):
So Peyton Pritchard and Sam Howser are coming off the bench, Okay, okay.
I just thought Joe Miszula in his head was you
know what, everyone's playing checkers, I'm gonna play chess.
Speaker 10 (18:38):
If we're over here questioning the lineup.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
Maybe he thought that would be as effective for Philadelphia.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, where.
Speaker 10 (18:45):
They wouldn't know how to handle it, but they did.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
He wasn't playing chess, he was playing Sorry he because
that was a sorry lineup. Sorry, that's good. It was
the green pieces because it was sorry. Derek White, Jalen Brown,
Baylor Shireman, who Ron Harper Junior?
Speaker 10 (19:08):
That's right, that one.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
And Luca Garza, Ladies and gentlemen. Luca garzas someone that
Sam had had, I don't know, campaigned for would that
be the way? Earlier in a couple of weeks ago
with Stut Gotts and is he is you were campaigning
for the Celtics to get more Luca.
Speaker 11 (19:28):
And he started Yeah, nine saw fault nine minutes, zero points.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Nine minutes, zero points plus minus negative fifteen.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
The three you just mentioned had zero points.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
The three you just the three three people in your
starting lineup had zero.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Not good at all. No, yet you had the Boston
Celtics still had an opportunity to knock off the Philadelphia
seventy six ers. But in the end, it wasn't Joe
Mizula's fault, Monci, it wasn't the fault of Baylor shireman
or of Luca Garza. Thank you for Ron Harper Jr.
Or anybody else who wore a Celtics jersey that I
(20:07):
had no idea. I said they'd played guys with fractions
and decimal points on jersey numbers because I had never
seen those sort of numbers on jerseys that we saw
in Game seven. It was it was a break from
the norm. Nicola Vusovich didn't even play in the game
for Boston, was a zero minute contributor, a DMP coach's decision.
(20:31):
Didn't play in Game seven. But that's that's not the problem.
The problem was the agenda, the agenda of the officials,
not my words, Jalen Brown's words. Jalen Brown saying that
he felt that there was an agenda of the officials
to tilt Game seven in a certain way that wasn't
(20:52):
in Boston's favor.
Speaker 10 (20:53):
Lemira, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Jalen Brown did say that he had been He said
that they were calling the offensive fouls on him a
little bit more than others.
Speaker 10 (21:04):
And I think we have sound of Jalen literally saying this,
what are.
Speaker 12 (21:07):
Y'all talking about? They clearly had an agenda. They clearly
had on a red board. If Jalen does this move,
call the offensive foul line every time, I don't know
it's because I pissed the reps off. I've been critical
about him, and I called him out a bunch of times.
They were like, you know what I got you in
the playoffs? Watch this, and that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
And when were in the.
Speaker 12 (21:32):
Middle of this series, you know, I got time to
say none because that's a distraction.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I'm trying to focus.
Speaker 12 (21:36):
But now that's over. I've been doing that all regular season.
Everybody's been doing it all regular season. You gonna call
it on me every time?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You don't.
Speaker 12 (21:44):
Y'all don't see it like it's an agenda. It's clearly
an agenda. Look at the same move.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
I appreciated the music, yeah, to go along with it.
That was that was nice. And at first I actually
thought he was joking, like like the tongue in cheek,
like there's an agenda, right, you kind of give that
sly smile. You know, You're like it was an agenda.
You know what I'm talking about, right, And then he
kept on talking, and then he kept on going more
and more, and Jaylen Brown feels slighted. I have I
have a different soundtrack with music, and I think that
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would be that would be better. Maybe this is instead
of the agenda. Maybe this is why the Celtics ended
up losing.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Five on four. The on the.
Speaker 13 (22:28):
Way round the prime put three and the rebound of George.
Speaker 14 (22:40):
Three point k House it wakes up and he couldn't
claim it cleanly, saves it for Kada Brown on.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
The outside undertoo to play.
Speaker 13 (22:47):
In Game seven, Brown with thirty three points and eight
rebounds as a.
Speaker 14 (22:56):
Badge of you wants with MAXI here Porter shoot on
the fend off.
Speaker 13 (23:01):
He went right into them, bid and beat his herd
as he gets the rebound.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Boston Padley needs a bucket. Got his score here. Falsey
has to be the fast white into La one minute
to play a TV guard.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
How's a top three rebound a gray?
Speaker 10 (23:27):
Everybody missed, everybody quick.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Crown, We'll pull way off, rebound back to pound right
on the outside. No good, and the rebound on Max.
Speaker 13 (23:38):
He with twenty seconds to play, he's fould in the back.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Guard the quarters. More is more false. He's gonna have
to work fast hiding for Howser over.
Speaker 14 (23:51):
Blow comes up short next with him on the rebound
and and that'll do it on a five sec getting
to Prichers three off, the Mark rebound goes to ty
Race Maaxi and for.
Speaker 13 (24:05):
The first time in franchise history, the philadelph You have
seventy six sers have come back from.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Three to one down. They take out the number two.
Speaker 13 (24:14):
See to the east and the processes moving on to
the second round.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Hold No. Nine, one hundred yard final.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Situated Noah Egos, NBC Universal Peacock. All of those calls,
Phil Collins I missed again. One of the great songs.
We had to do the extended remix Monzie because there
were so many misses by the Boston Celtics late in
that game on Saturday, up ninety nine to ninety six,
Derek White misses with under four and a half to go,
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three point fifty three left. Derek White misses a three.
He missed again, ninety nine to ninety six. After a
couple of free throws, Boston's within one. Jalen Brown miss
thirty seconds later, Jalen Brown miss. You heard the Peyton
Pritchard miss. Jalen Brown another miss under a minute, Sam
how Gin. They didn't make any shots. This was a
one point game, So one point game with three minutes
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to go in Boston's best players on the court, whether
it's Baylor Shireman, Luca Garza, Jalen Brown, whoever, couldn't make
the shots. And so that's what annoys me when we're
talking about an agenda, and throughout this series, you had
it in your hands, Boston, you had an opportunity. We
just played four minutes of Phil Collins and could have
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played more misses from what Boston did on Saturday night.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
I don't know how many times.
Speaker 9 (25:31):
I don't care who won that game, but in the
fourth quarter I must have veiled five seven times.
Speaker 10 (25:37):
Stop shooting threes. Please stop shooting a three.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
And I said, if I'm Joe Mizula, i am saying
to Derek White, you take one more three, I'm pulling
you from this game. As a coach, how do you
not say that? Or I would have said, hey, you
know what I want, get me a layup. I want
to let let's see the ball go through the basket
before you take another three.
Speaker 10 (26:00):
How about that.
Speaker 9 (26:01):
Joe Mizzoula, to me, has been such a coach that
actually is involved and in this situation, Like you just said,
the agenda, let's say the officials had an agenda. I
don't think so, Jaylen Brown, But the agenda that your
coach had didn't make sense from the starting lineup to
the way it ended. We know that Boston lives and
dies with the three, but the games that they lost
in the series is because they shot under thirty percent
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from the three, and that is how this game was trending.
So you got to change the agenda, especially especially I know,
like any team that plays the Dodgers, I they circle
it because they want to go. They want to play the.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
Best against the Dodgers. Right, I think Boston maybe a
team that.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
People circle, but Philadelphia circles that until the paper rips dan.
Speaker 10 (26:43):
They are so ready for that game.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
So how did you not have plan CD E FG
for a game seven?
Speaker 7 (26:53):
I think they only had plans A, B, and C
is saying yes like that like that was. They may
not have had DE and FG. But to your point,
zero of nine from three point range in the last
five minutes ended up being one of twelve from the
floor in that span, but nine of those misses, again,
all misses were from three point range. Boston lived by
the three, die by the three sort of team. And
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to go along with that, my bigger issue is what
we did afterwards. And it's not Jalen Brown saying that
this is an agenda. My problem is is Boston trying
to have it both ways? Why did you rush Jason
Tatum back? Why did Jason Tatum rush back to try
to make a push in the playoffs?
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Right, of course, but not just I think you and
I sat here, maybe you were with Carrie and we
all talked about it. Carrie Rhodes, former NFL safety that
you host with on Sundays. Maybe we were all talking
about it together. But it was like, imagine him saying
he wants to come back because he's your star. How
do you tell him no? Because it was it was
a we had a conversation why are you coming back?
But watching his team have success without him, that was
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probably hard for Jason Tatum.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
Yes, and so he probably pushed it.
Speaker 9 (27:57):
It wasn't even just that the Celtics wanted him for
the playoff push. It was maybe Jason Tatum mean, I'm
coming back, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
This is what I think happened, and I think that
you're onto something. I think Jason Tatum probably wanted to
be a part of the party. He had Fomo. He
felt like he was missing out. You're gonna attack your
rehab in a certain way. But there's really no reason
why he should have come back at this part of
the season. Damian Lillard in Portland, you know, ruptured at
Achilles last year with Milwaukee. He mentioned after Portland was
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eliminated that there was maybe talk of maybe he could
come out and play, and it didn't even dawn on him.
So Damian Lillard, who sees Portland now actually be a
playoff contender, never even dawned on Dame to be able
to go and make a comeback. Jason Tatum tries to
do the Superman thing, and I get it. You're you're
an athlete, there's only so much time. But you can't
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tell me what happened in Game seven, And meaning Jason
Tatum not being there wasn't connected to him trying to
be fully healthy. Like I know it's been a while
since he's been back with the team, but I think
that's all part of the equation. So now Tatum rushes
back to your point of wanting to be a part
of the team and having Fomo. Boston's like, you know what,
this isn't a wasted year if we could get Jason
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Tatum back. Now we are contenders in the East, and
when you look at the East, you're only looking up
at the Pistons who hadn't been there before. So that
makes sense for Boston to go for it. So now
you get into a Game seven, we were starting three
players that shouldn't be starting. I know Baylor Shireman played
better at the second half of the season, but wasn't
the Celtics lineup that we necessarily thought that they would
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put out there. When you go for it like Boston
did and fail, you can't say, guess what, it was
a lost season anyway. You know, this is like there
were so many things that were lost because of it.
You can't just brush this aside. And that's where I
felt like Boston was like, well, we really want to
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go for it, and then now we're like, well, we
weren't supposed to be this far anyway, so we'll just
move on and get ready for next year. I think
there's so many things with the Celtics that happened this
year that will hurt them in the long run, even
more so than just losing the seven game series. But
you just have to take the L on the series.
This isn't we get We were got further in the
regular season in a higher seed than we ever thought.
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So we're just gonna live with that. Uh, you got
to take this L and you gotta wear it.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Oh. Absolutely, the minute that Jason Tatum came back and
they decided we're going to go for it. As you
just said, our initial or my initial opinion of what
the Celtics would do this season went out the windows, Like, okay,
you went for it to your point. Now I'm gonna
judge you based on that, not on oh you brought
Tatum back in a year where we weren't expecting it.
Speaker 10 (30:38):
Good for you. No, you went for it and you
were up three to one.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
So even even with that, you had the opportunity and
then in a Game seven to come out with what
I felt was no desperation and a team maybe like
the Celtics doesn't show desperation. They have been there, done that,
live and die by the three and has worked for them,
So it's like maybe they didn't feel the need to
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show desperation. But it seemed like you could have used
it a little bit. You could have acted like this
was a win or go home situation, and it definitely
seemed like you thought you would have a game today.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
You say three to one, I just look up, You're
within one point with five minutes to go, and we
can't have anybody make a shot. So let's just to
recap Celtics as we look at them as a team.
Is their stock up or down after this series?
Speaker 9 (31:32):
Down?
Speaker 7 (31:32):
It's down? Jason Tatum now not available for a game seven?
Where is his stock down? Jaylen Brown unable to hit
shots in the clutch when he's the man he had
an opportunity to show. Listen, I understand that Jason Tatum
stole everybody's lines and winning an NBA title, I can
show that this is my team and I'm the one
that can lead it. What's his stock down?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Down?
Speaker 7 (31:55):
And then with the agenda in the stream, it goes
down even further. Completely lost weekend for the Boston Celtics,
whose stock as an entire organization is going down after
that tobacco on.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
Saturday, Joe mizzula stock went down for me in his
the lack of making adjustments. We emphasize how in the postseason,
in the playoffs, it's all about adjustments from game to games.
Sometimes it's from play to play, quarter to quarter. Where
were the adjustments in this one? It just seemed I
couldn't believe what I was watching it.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
I just was like, do they not know?
Speaker 9 (32:29):
This? As a game seven against against the Philadelphia seventy
six ers. Once again, all they want to do is
crush you and step on your throat. They just want
to beat you, They want to humiliate you.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
There's a bigger picture when you look at this series
as a whole. For Missoula, I would agree with that
You're harder on him than I am, because I still
think that they're there with five minutes left. Again, it's
just up to your players to make shots something that
they couldn't do. And I think your point is valid.
I I have more of an issue with what went
down and how that game was still competitive and it
was Philadelphia, and Philadelphia had everything going for him right,
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and I mean Joel, I mean except Joel Embiid getting
hurt twice in the game, a knee and a hip issue,
which is something we'll talk a little bit about later.
But I just go more to the players that actually
had the opportunities, Peyton Pritchard and an opportunity, why open
three in the corner? You know, bricked it? So it
was so bad it was and there is no agenda.
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There is no agenda, Not when you go oer of
nine from three point range in one of twelve in
the final five minutes of a game seven at home
against a rival that you have always beaten. She's wont Belanios,
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Speaker 2 (33:44):
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Speaker 7 (33:56):
Things just got interesting. You heard the news Anthonyards back
for the Timberwolves playing in Game one tonight against the
San Antonio Spurs. I think it's I think it's a
mountain to climb for San Antonio. I may sound cliche, Monci,
but winning and winning against a good team in the
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NBA playoffs when you haven't done it before, Minnesota has
done it before. I think it's a tough task for
the San Antonio Spurs. And now getting Anthony Edwards back
from Minnesota, I think makes things even tougher for San Antonio.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
They it's just unknown territory right for the Spurs in
this situation going into it, so I understand, but I
do think the Spurs are more prepared. Maybe then I
would have another team that is entering the second round
of the playoffs semi finals after not being in the
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playoffs last couple of seasons.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
Like, I don't know. I think I think the Spurs
can win it. But having Anthony Edwards is awesome. That's
that's how you want to see the series.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
They should win it.
Speaker 10 (35:05):
They should.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Timberwolves took two of three from the Spurs this past season.
But if we even just go back to last year
with Oklahoma City, right, Oklahoma City was the best team
in the NBA. They were the number one overall seed.
But yet every time along the way we wondered if
they were able to get it done because they hadn't
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been there before, they hadn't done it before, and they
had to prove their way. And they ended up doing
it and now like we look at their series with
the Lakers and be like, oh, yeah, thunder a gonna win.
So they got past that that mark you you talk
about sometimes having some difficulties sleeping. So my mom got
me this Nintendo nes thing where it's you know, it's
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got just a bunch of games. Yeah, yeah, it's got
a bunch of little yeah yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
A little replica.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
I think it's got like a maybe a Contra game.
It's got regular Super Mario Brothers. It's got some of
the games that I have no idea, but it has
Super Mario Brothers and Super Mario Brothers three.
Speaker 10 (36:05):
That's all you need. And Mario three is that the
one where he flies yeah the tail?
Speaker 7 (36:09):
Yes, oh so good. So I have been playing that
and I got stuck playing the sun was sick last
night and went to bed early. My wife went to
bed I'm like, I'm gonna play some Super Mario Brothers
and love it. I was up till two. I was
up till two o'clock. But I can't get past this
certain world or the certain stage. I just get it
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doesn't matter if I have twelve lives, I cannot get
past it.
Speaker 10 (36:35):
Which one is it?
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Can you do?
Speaker 10 (36:36):
You remember?
Speaker 7 (36:37):
It's embarrassing because I'm a fifty almost a.
Speaker 10 (36:42):
Fifty year old.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
Because now I'm going into it, that's even more embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
It's only World.
Speaker 9 (36:48):
Two, the desert one, yes, yes, And you can't get
past the sun.
Speaker 10 (36:54):
Is it the sun that's chasing you?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
That's tricky, But I was I can do it every now,
and but I lost five lives on it last night.
That's what I feel. It's like for an NBA team,
You just you try and try and try, and then
we finally can break through. The next time you do
it again, it's it's easier, you understand, but until you
actually do it, you're stuck. And I'm stuck in World
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two right now, in that in that Super Mario Brothers game.
And was up until two o'clock last night. At one point,
I I at one point I had like thirteen lives
and I could not get past it. That is why
I think it is a tough task for San Antonio
now with Anthony Edwards, who's playing with two bad knees.
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Let's be real, if he's coming back from this one,
he had the runners knee on the other knee, so
it's not Anthony Edwards at one hundred percent. But we've
seen now other Timberwolves players have stepped up in his absence.
There's still with Dante DiVincenzo because of his Achilles injury.
He's not gonna be back at all until next season
maybe with the injury, so there's not everything is going
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for Minnesota. But I still just think a win against
Portland in a playoff series is not the same as
beating a team that's been to the Western Conference Finals
the previous two years. And it sounds very general and
it sounds very cliche, but I do believe it, and
I do believe that there's something there, and I do
believe Minnesota has shown that they can win games that
they need to win now they haven't made it to
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the NBA Finals. Maybe the Mavericks were better in Oklahoma
City was better last year, but in other previous series.
They have shown that they can win the games that
they need to win, and I think that that is
going to be something that the Spurs are going to
have to figure out. They may be better, but Minnesota's
beating them twice during the season, and now they'll have
an opportunity to do it again.
Speaker 9 (38:41):
I love the comparison because you hit it right on
the money. Once you get through a level that you can't,
all of a sudden, you can get through it much easier.
And so here are the Spurs, a very young team.
Just in general, right, I think Stefan Castle might be
not Stefan Castle, Darren Fox, thank you. I was like
Darren Fox the one that has had the most experience
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when it comes to the NBA for how long he's
been in the league. But I've never and maybe this
is his I have never looked at Minnesota in the
last couple of years and been like.
Speaker 10 (39:14):
I am scared of Minnesota.
Speaker 9 (39:16):
Minnesota has never made me feel scared them, And it's
not about not liking them.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
I just don't. I don't know. Like they're good.
Speaker 9 (39:24):
They're good, they've been to the Western Conference Finals, but.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
Like I have not been scared of them.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
I feel like with a gimpy Anthony Edwards, gangster and
major pain because of his knees, they're probably like, Okay,
he's coming out. That's gonna make a difference. But I
don't know if san Antonio looks at them and is scared.
I do feel that people look at Victor Winn Banyama
and maybe are not scared, but definitely know that he's
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gonna bring it. We've seen it from Victor WI when
Banyama doesn't have the attitude.
Speaker 10 (39:54):
He has an attitude that we're all asking and craving for.
Speaker 9 (39:57):
So I feel like they know that he's gonna come
out already ready to play the first second of Game one.
You don't have to tell him. It's you know, he's
not gonna warm up in the second quarter. He's gonna
come out ready to play. And so I just I
don't know. I think the Spurs are going to be
more prepared than a typical fresh team with you.
Speaker 7 (40:17):
Remember, this isn't a Spurs team with Greg Popovich either,
so Rich Johnson's also never been here before.
Speaker 10 (40:23):
Absolutely absolutely, but there is you.
Speaker 9 (40:26):
I got to give some credit to the to the
culture and the history that has been the Spurs, right,
there's I I just am giving them maybe too much credit,
but I definitely have never been.
Speaker 10 (40:34):
I'm scared of the Timberwolves. I've never felt that. What
about the timber Wolves.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
I don't know about the wolves.
Speaker 10 (40:43):
I don't hear it. I don't hear it.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
What do you guys?
Speaker 10 (40:45):
From now on, it'll be Minnesota, do you guys? The
rest of the way.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
Sam, you're picking a night Spurs or Timberwolves.
Speaker 10 (40:52):
Save Minnesota Timberwolves. I don't.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
I mean, I hear are timberwolves.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
For timber Wolves because there's more of an f there
isn't there say it Manty Minnesota.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
No, I'm not saying it the rest of the day.
The rest of the day.
Speaker 11 (41:09):
Everyone gives Monty guff for this, and I'm just like,
I let it.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
I let it be a long time ago. I'm just like,
thank you.
Speaker 9 (41:14):
I don't even hear it, though, so I can't adjust
it because I don't even hear it happens.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
Okay, Okay, I love it. I think it's the first
time that I've I don't.
Speaker 9 (41:24):
Think so, you mean, like on a Monday, maybe maybe
on a Monday.
Speaker 10 (41:29):
You is the first time.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
You brought it up, really started on the Cardinals.
Speaker 10 (41:33):
The Cardinals.
Speaker 7 (41:34):
Oh wow, Cardinals. Yeah, see that, she's got it. It's
it's for me. It's only timber Wolves and Cardinals, car.
Speaker 10 (41:42):
Cardinals, Cardinals, Cardinals, Cardinals, Cardinals.
Speaker 7 (41:45):
Yeah, there you go. You got it, You got it.
Speaker 10 (41:46):
So what am I saying?
Speaker 7 (41:47):
When you say seventy six you don't say anything wrong.
You don't say anything wrong. Listen, I come from the
Upper Midwest, so when I say grocery bags, like, what's
a bag? Yeah? Beg so don it's all connected. Yeah,
it's all connected. Well, Anthony Edwards back tonight for the Spurs,
Joelnesota or Minnesota tonight as they faced the Minnesota I
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was as soon as he's trying to make my cool
transition to Joel Embiid, because Joel Embiid is back the
process and yet he is injured as well. That's that
is nothing new, but a healthy version of Joel Embiid,
who had this to deal with a hip issue, had
Tyrese Maxey fall into his knee late in that game
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against the Celtics. But by and large, Joel Embiid is
healthy and the seventy six ers behind a rejuvenated Joel
Embiid have advanced to the Eastern Conference semi finals. So
I ask you the question, Manzi Blanos, is Joel Embiid
now someone to root for?
Speaker 10 (42:48):
I think?
Speaker 9 (42:49):
So I think the seventy six Ers is that I
am rooting for the demise of Paul George for the
rest of time because of his way out of the Clippers.
So I'm not rooting for him. But I don't dislike
the seventy six Ers. I've been a fan, I guess
from afar of the seventy six Ers since I was
a little girl because of Alan Iverson. I think Joel
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Embiid is a likable player and we have not been
able to see him get this far.
Speaker 10 (43:16):
And so I think this is like I feel like
a lot of people are like, Okay, now I'm gonna
root for the seventy six ers, all right, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (43:23):
Like, I feel like you said that you don't think
the Knicks are liked, right, or like a couple of yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:30):
Yeah, I don't think that the rest of the country
falls in love with.
Speaker 9 (43:32):
The Knicks, correct, And I told you, I was like,
I don't think people hate the Knicks, but I think
this matchup, I think what's happening now.
Speaker 10 (43:40):
Seventy six Ers are.
Speaker 9 (43:42):
The team that maybe most people are jumping on the
bandwagon at this point.
Speaker 7 (43:47):
To root for. So I don't think people were behind
Joel Embiid because of his injury history. Maybe that may
be unfair to Joel Embiid, but I don't think that
he was in by fans as a whole because it
was more about his unavailability or his inability to be
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to play as opposed to being on the court like
someone like Giannis. I think in the Bucks runs that
they made, he was enduring to a lot of basketball
fans out there. I think Jalen Brunton actually with the
Knicks also can have a similar sort of feel. But
I think when you looked at Joel Embiid, you just
thought high draft pick, all the talent always hurt their
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not I think that people weren't warming up to him.
Now after missing half of the season and then missing
the first part of this playoff series and the end
of the regular season because of an appendectomy, now he
comes back and he actually looks refreshed, when he looks
like a different player. I think that there was a
point that we wondered does Joel Embid have anything else left.
The seventy six Ers already missed the timeline if they
wanted to trade him, because now you have a player
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that gives you diminishing returns. And in the games that
he played against Boston, which by the way, sure seems
to be the difference in that series if we really
get down to it, the Sixers seem like a different team.
But now they seem different because he's healthy, and it
seems different because maybe there is seven seed and maybe
it is a little bit of Paul George also coming back.
But I think something turned with Embiid. I think people
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are warming up to them. Of the Celtics, Nicks and
seventy six Ers, I think the Celtics are disliked by
the most people. I think the Knicks are next, and
then I think it would be the seventy six Ers.
But I don't even know if people dislike the seventy
six Ers right anymore. There hasn't been anything too dislike
about them except Joel Embiid not being available for his
team's games, and now he is. Now they're an underdog.
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Now they're facing the Knicks, a team that people may
not like, and I think that Joel Embiid now has
this feel good story behind him, and the Sixers do
as well. That could carry them even further in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (45:45):
I'm scared of the seventy six Ers. If I'm on
the East, I I am scared of.
Speaker 10 (45:50):
The seventy six Ers. Not only as you just hit it.
Speaker 9 (45:53):
Joelle Embiid looks better than I think we all anticipated
because of the history.
Speaker 10 (45:58):
Of him just not being available, which has been the
front straighting part.
Speaker 9 (46:00):
And if you're a Sixers fan this entire time, you've
watched your front office make move after move after move
to try and make this process work. And it's taken
a while, right, It's taken I don't know how many years.
At this point, the process has been in it process
and processing is processing.
Speaker 10 (46:16):
The process been processing.
Speaker 9 (46:18):
But this team, like, aside from Joel Embiid, Tyree Smaxy
has been carrying that team whenever Joel Embiid was down.
Speaker 10 (46:27):
And he is one of the fastest players in the league.
Speaker 9 (46:29):
Paul George not having to play because he was suspended,
not because he.
Speaker 10 (46:35):
Was injured and had to rehab.
Speaker 9 (46:38):
This dude was just chilling at home, probably working on
his game, but not doing anything too much to his body.
Speaker 10 (46:44):
He's fully refreshed.
Speaker 9 (46:45):
Both of these players, Joel Embid and Paul George, played
under forty games this year, and here they are seeming
like they're in mid season form, not postseason where everyone
else is dragging and tired.
Speaker 10 (46:57):
They both look really good. The Sixers look scary. They
look like they can absolutely come out of the East.
Speaker 9 (47:05):
And if we would have been having this conversation ten
days ago, I wouldn't have said that to that point.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
And I know you can't do it with every player,
but I also think that this is bad news for
the NBA, and it's bad news for the NBA because
you see the Sixers and their key components in Paul George.
To your point about the suspension, well put. But with Embeed,
I think you who played thirty eight regular season game.
Speaker 10 (47:26):
It was something again, Yeah, you're thirty for both, yeah.
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Correct. So now you're telling me that you can have
their best players older in age. George is in the
sixteenth season, older in age, miss half of the season
and now look like the most dangerous team in the East.
That's not good. And you look out to the West
and you have Anthony Edwards. Now is two bad knees.
You have a Lakers team that doesn't have Luka Doncic
and Austin Reeves trying to come back from his injury.
(47:50):
So what we are seeing with the seventy six ers
is not good for Adam Silver and the NBA to say,
like your strongest team, fifty percent of what makes them
good is that their players missed half the season. It's
right because if Embiid played sixty five games and maybe
he's second team All NBA, but guess what, he's probably
not fully healthy for the Eastern Conference semifinals.
Speaker 9 (48:11):
Yeah, it's something I've never understood because in baseball, when
you get suspended, it's like you're suspended and the postseason
like you can maybe you're suspended only X amount of games,
but you can't play in the postseason. That's typically tied
into when you get in trouble. This, as you said,
it's going to be something if the Sixers get far,
if they make it to the finals, let's say they
win this, it has to be something that is discussed
(48:33):
because to your point, look at all the stars that
are hurt because they tried and played the whole season,
and they have two that did it.
Speaker 7 (48:41):
Yeah, right, and this has made them stronger. And I
think that people would say I would rather have this
than have them play sixty five games between mid October
and mid April. Like this is another I don't want.
I hate to use the word indictment on the NBA's
regular season, But if this is what is happening, if
this is what we are we are playing, guess what.
Maybe guys shouldn't be playing seventeen and eighteen years. I
(49:03):
don't know. I actually think that it could be a
problem in the NBA because we can't move on from
older stars because they're still hanging around in some way
or another. So we're talking about Lebron James, We're talking
about Kevin Durant in the Rocket kind of.
Speaker 10 (49:16):
Put a cap on the amount of years you playing.
Speaker 7 (49:18):
The essay, I'm just saying, if guys are if they're
that good and they're that valuable, and you see Joel
Embiid and again, and I'm saying, relatively healthy appendect to me,
there's nothing that you could do about that. And he
got banged up, he had his hip working on and
I mentioned the knee thing with Maxie, that video of.
Speaker 10 (49:36):
Him stretching on the sideline so funny.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
Yeah, I just I think that it's an indictment on
the NBA. It really is, But anyway, Joel Embiid is
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Oh do we love this man?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I am not certain anyone puts a bigger smile on
our faces collectively than Phil Simms. Great quarterback, great media
career after he was a quarterback. His son is a
good friend of ours and joins us every week. He's
been texting me from Europe. He's crazy, Chris Simms, but
Phil Simms is not. And I listen, we had a
(00:43):
conversation right before we started here. I'm gonna let mikey
A ask the first question. It's a great question, So
mikey A, the floor is yours.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I didn't hear any great questions.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know it's coming right now.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well we'll get a great answer, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
But you said that you don't give it, You don't
give a And I was just curious, how do you
get to I don't give a crap?
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Is it age?
Speaker 7 (01:04):
Is it money?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
What is it that I can do to get to
I don't give a crap. How do you arrive there?
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Phil?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Hey, the first thing is it sure's a hell. Ain't
about money, because I didn't make any anywhere. So you
played fifteen years?
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, my starting salary was sixty thousand, and we progressed
a little bit every year.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I mean, so that's one thing.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
And ages definitely is I'm hired the crap that I
read and see, and I turn the TV on every
morning and my kids make fun of me. Why are
you watching all those shows? All you do is get mad?
I said, yeah, nobody gives me. It just makes me
want to fight more. And so I was watching the film.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
No you weren't.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
You couldn't have been watching because your take is absolutely
wrong and stupid. But you're telling a big audience out there,
you know what I mean, Yes, all the people to
listen to. Oh yeah, he's smart, he must be right. No, No,
it's every day. So I do let it pass. And
of course my young son met who's in the business too.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
He goes, you know, a big guy, just let it go.
You know, you can't, you know, And I said, yeah,
I know, I know.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Really what I what would love to do is have
a show and just go Today, here are the top
five stupidest things said by people on teav.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I say stupid things too every once in a while,
get it wrong.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
But I'm gonna tell you I never talk about something
unless I really know right, So you know, oh you mean,
I got.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
To do a little homework, could tell the truth.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Think of it this way, guys, Hey, mom's, dad's wife, kids, whatever,
are listening to some of these shows, and when what
else are they? You know, even the fans, what did
they go by? What they read and what they hear.
So I think that's a big responsibility for the press
to try to do the right thing.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Phil, I am all in for a daily show, and
would you give us the top five dumbest thing said everything? Yeah,
well listen about every single to say, you know, featured,
I got enough.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I got enough people that don't like me, so I'm
gonna try to keep it a level g ra ra ra.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
As Bill Parcell said to me sometimes during my career,
it was kind of getting late and he was he goes,
he sims, don't worry when you quit, the fans.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Are going to like you. And I went, is that
a is that a compliment.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Quit.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
The fans are going to like you. Well, Bill when
you retire.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Uh maybe, well whatever, think about I'm gonna write a
book and I'm going to have two chapters on Lawrence Taylor,
and then I don't know how many chapters I'm gonna
have on Parcels. But damn to get even with him,
I'd have to write the whole book about him, because man,
he listen, we want and I tell people all the time,
(03:54):
I love him, will do anything for him.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And I'm here on this show today just because because
of him.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
He's a big reason. He helped us win two Super Bowls.
So you know, can't can't hate a guy for that?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Was he? Yes, did he ever have a day where
he came out and he was nice? No? He had
the great ability to every day to drive.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You you know it was you know, look, thinking back,
I go, you know, he could have gone out one
day and go, okay, guys, just take it in.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
We had a great workout, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, never, Phil, Phil, do you remember Taylor? You were
at the barn for the draft. Chris was doing a
show there. Do you remember Taylor just kind of hanging
around the barn there?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
What was going on.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know, I don't remember much about it. A lot
of people. I wasn't drinking.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
I don't really drink, right, I was trying to watch,
you know, Christopher and his his sidekick do this thing.
And I'm just going, gone, I'm glad you're doing it,
because I sure as the hell wouldn't want to do
what you're doing there.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Oh, we're surprised about the pick and you know whatever.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I know, Sorry, I didn't I wasn't zooming on and
zooming in.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And a lot of people. Man, there were a lot
of people there too.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Too many people, right, I mean for a draft.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I mean it's not that complicated, right. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
They were doing the social post I guess and all that.
So everybody I did notice, everybody was working.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So my executive producer who's on the zoom with us
right now, Taylor, he was in the barn. What a
great night, a special night for him to be able
to take in the draft with the Simms family.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
He did.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
He did take a video of you at one point
drinking a diet coke and eating baby carrots. I believe,
and I got to tell you Phil that it was shocking.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
But that is what draft night is all about.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I mean, hey, man, let me just tell you something.
This ageing. Yeah, it's real, Okay.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I don't have what you do, so I try to
watch what I eat a little bit, because I am
the one great thing that I can do in life.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I can eat with anybody. I'm serious. I eat two
bread I've already had two breakfasts today.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
We'll get out of here here, come on, I mean,
Phil with Tapa. This at nine thirty in the morning.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I mean, oh, well, well, you know some of us
get up early, right, And that's the other thing with age,
you know. I look at the clock and I say
five thirty. I go, let me try to sleep another
twenty minutes. But usually I just got I walk to
hell and I get up. So I get up early,
have an early breakfast, and then you know, a two
hours later, I'm ready to eat again. Of course, all
(06:32):
you got to do is ask my sons. They laughed
their ass off about me. God Almighty, you can eat.
I said, yeah, you know why, because I starved the
whole life, growing up in the house with eight kids.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And that's right, yeah, so I was all the sacrifices
you made, right, you spent all the money on them,
that's right.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, well, yeah, so whatever. At one time this off season,
I was up to two sixty three.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah, no, wow, and you know, damn, you know my
clothes didn't fit. But it just felt good. But I
realized I had to dropped back down. Now I'm at
two forty five, so man, so I have to cut down.
I'm eating my one joy and I'm pretty good cooked too.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
Yeah, we know.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Better be a decent cook too.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Did you cook yourself breakfast this morning? Or what? Twice?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Of course yes. What was the first one, if you
don't mind me asking the early one?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, I had a big bowl of yogurt with blueberry
strawberries crushed.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Not almonds. Well, I do have those two walnuts.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, you know, pour a little something on top of it,
smash it, watch a little TV, drink one cup of
coffee or tea.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And then I had four eggs.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Fried and I put them on toast and put all
this other stuff on it, which is man, I eat it.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
So it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Go ahead tell So.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
The reason why I'm such a great guess at things
like this watch party is because I'm wallpaper there.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
I'm not there to interact with.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You don't even know he's there, right, Yeah, yeah, I'm
not gonna.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
We didn't even talk, did we.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
We talked for a little, but people people were stut
Gott's and Mikey were like, what's Phil doing? What's Phil doing?
I'm here to report. Nobody ate more fruit that night
than feel sense.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Oh wow, yeah, yeah, I was caught.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
You know, I probably had dinner before we went up there.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
But what's with the carrots? What are you doing there?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I mean, hey, just trying to fill up. But I
don't like it until I feel like.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
God, damn, I'm full.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, yes, great feeling for me.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So you love the full feeling and you love feeling
you loved like two sixty five was a good wait
for you. You're saying that's odd.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Oh I loved it. I love it?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, Like, man, you know, I'm just gon boy. I
wish i'd waited like this when I was younger. I
really would have taken some people down.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
He would have played linebacker.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
No you know, oh yes, Phil, what did you make
of the Uh?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Well, it's hard because no one knows so you're right.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So Phil, like Chris is sitting there doing his thing,
but no one really knows how good these draft picks
are going to be. But what did you make of
John Harbaugh's first draft as as the Giants head coach.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, it went great, it really did.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
You know, I didn't study all the guys they drafted,
but I know getting rvel Rees that was a great start.
Getting the lineman from Miami is another one. So you
got two big dudes on a team. Now, that makes
the team bigger, better, physically, all that stuff. And that's
John Harball's way, and the Giants I think got away
from that for years. I mean, Bill Parcells always had
(09:47):
a thing, well, if we can't make our decision up,
just take the bigger guy, you know, and it's you know,
the other thing is too just about you know, why
do they draft rvil Rees?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
A lot of people complained about that.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
They got this and you know, and I learned this
from George Young and Coach Parcels, don't be afraid of adding.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
On to one of the strengths of your team.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Stinking We did that, and you know, we had an
unbelievable lineback in court, and we draft this guy, Carl Banks.
I went, oh my god, how many linebackers do we need?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
He's a Hall of famer.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, I know, he should be a Hall of Famer.
I mean Carl Banks.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
You know, as time went on, and it was pretty early,
maybe about the second year, I went, oh my god,
he's not good.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
He was.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Carl was great.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yes, And you know, if.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Anybody wants to argue that with me, you can almost
look at any game, but look at the playoffs in
nineteen eighty six by our football team. He was phenomenal
in every game in the Super Bowl. Listen, there should
be a defensive MVP in the Super Bowls, you know,
because it's just it seems like it's just totally.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Always going to go to an offensive player, right Carl.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
When you watch the game, it was, it's unbelievable. Yes,
every series against Denver he made a play, made a
play and they were outstanding too. Plays that he would make.
It wasn't just like oh here he comes, I'll make
a tackle.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
But when you play with.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, you know we had Pepper Johnson
mere like god, yeah, Harry, reasons.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Just on and on.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You know, people don't pay enough attention to you, so
I'm always hey, I know Carl, but I'm not. I
don't like, we're not super super close because we don't
see each other that much. But one day he's going
to I think he's gonna get into the Hall of
Fame because he deserves it.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
What did you make of the Rams?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It was weird, the whole story. Trying to protect Matthew Stafford.
They made it clear he's the quarterback for now, when
Stafford's a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But they drafted for the future.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And I thought it was smart, and I thought it
was ridiculous the great lengths they went to to kind
of keep that secret.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, well, everything was just about I think it was
two things. I feel pretty confident in say this.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
It was two things.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
One, they wanted to make sure Matthew Stafford was understanding there.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Right, But you appreciate of course, right, yes? Sure?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
And you know the Giants strapped Dave Brown one year
in the first round. Yes, they actually called me and
told me. I said, hey, well, I said, wow, Dave
Brown do right?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah? Okay, But and.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
You were okay with it. You understood what they were doing, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
What what? How did you ask the question? At first?
That's well, well, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
So they went to great length. There was a secret
meeting with Tyle Simpson. They didn't want the news to
get out there. They wanted to make sure Stafford they
did all the right things. It just seemed it seemed
like they really went out of their way to announce Hey,
it's still Matthew Stafford's team.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
We know it's still Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
R right, And Matthew Stafford went to Los Angeles. I
had arguments all the time during the week. Well you
know he's never won a big game, you know, I said, yeah,
you know, you're right, You're right. Yeah, because many years
before the season started, I said, wow, Detroit, I think
they're a super Bowl team and then would go okay, okay,
point yeah, no kidding, no good, how are they gonna wait.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
If they want a game?
Speaker 5 (13:05):
It was a miracle, right, But I'll say this, I felt,
I said it many times. You can look it up
on podcasts whatever not that you want to or will
I will. I said, ty Simpson fits the Rams offense perfectly.
He's everything that you would want for that offense. And
Sean McVay Sean McVay had to look at him and go,
(13:29):
really good arm, very mobile, always too small. Well that
you know what, you don't have to really worry about
it as much because they do all those play actions
one way, they roll the other way, and they got
space all around them and just wait for somebody to
come open deep and rip it and that'll be Ty Simpson.
So Matthew Stafford, if I had to guess, it's going
(13:50):
to be one or two years. But you know, think
about this also, he plays hurt all the time every year.
And now if you get hitting Ty Simpson up to speed,
let's just give matt Stafford just one game off here
to recuperate and whatever. I think that's a big deal too,
because man, he played a couple of games this year.
(14:12):
It was unbelievable. He played, uh with the injurys he
was dealing with. But he's tough as hell and got
one of the greatest arms we've ever seen in the NFL.
I'm not saying Ty Simpson's arm is Matthew Stafford's, but
it's not far behind, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Right, And you like to fit in la with Pickay.
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, Phil, we're very friendly with h with Mike Golick
and his entire family. Did Mike Golick ever sack you?
Do you remember playing against Mike Golick Senior?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh? Yeah, sure, sure, yeah. I mean I don't remember
him hitting me because guys hitting me.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Because Jerome Brown, you know, I mean, my god, their
front seven was like.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And Golic, well, Golic does tell us that Reggie White
would look over to him before the ball was snapped
and he would say, hey, Mike, do me a favor.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Don't move or move backwards. And Mike would be like why,
and He's like, you get in my way?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Oh, I tell you.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I was working out one off season and right before
the draft, where a bunch of us and parcels comes
in and he looks and we start talking about the
draft just a little. He goes, ah, sims, our life
is about ready to change. And I go why, well,
why would what are you talking about? He goes this
this I think it was Detroit. Detroit is going to
screw us in the draft and the Eagles are going
(15:42):
to get Jerome Brown. And I went, oh, is he
is really as good as everybody says? He goes, hell,
he might be better than Reggie yellows. This is going to
be two ass weapons. I'm gonna take this year. I
won't even tell you the stories about my interactions with
with with Reggie White. They were I would say things,
(16:03):
you know, he was a minister that I should never
say to a minister, but I did right.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, it's football, so.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Of course we love you.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
We love you, we love your family. And it made
my day that you had no idea.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Taylor was in the same room with you the entire
evening watching the dress.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
True, I didn't want to get in.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
We were hanging out, all right, Phil, We'll talk to
you to Thanks for doing this.
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Speaker 10 (16:52):
The Force is with us.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
I don't know about everybody else, but the Force is
definitely with us.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
There will be some Star Wars talk coming up at
some point today of all the sounds Iowa Sam had
ready for today. Of course you knew it was going
to be. He actually criticized us. I think it was
a criticism that we did not wear Star Wars related
items today.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
He definitely was talking smack, but he did.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Iowa Sam, would you like to tell everyone your Star
Wars related apparel today?
Speaker 11 (17:27):
This might be the only thing that like Star Wars
related I own. It's kind of in their galaxy, far
far away. It says the power of the Clark side,
Caitlin Clark, Star Wars shaking hands?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
All right, may the fourth be with you? Can you
see that because we are streaming live on YouTube right now,
so you can see the shirt that Iowa Sam is
wearing as we speak. Jason Stewart's here. Isaac Lohnkron at
the news desk. We are down to an elite eight
in the NBA Playoffs. Mansey and the Boston Celtics looked
(18:02):
anything but elite in their Game seven loss on Saturday
to the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Yeah, what was that starting lineup? Can we start there?
Speaker 9 (18:10):
Can we start with the starting lineup for the Boston Celtics.
Absolutely in a Game seven, like not like a game
where you can test it things out, you know what
I'm saying, Like, this is it?
Speaker 10 (18:22):
And the starting lineup was a I had to do
a double take. I was like, am I tripping?
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (18:27):
So Peyton Pritchard and Sam Howser are coming off the bench, Okay, okay.
I just thought Joe Miszula in his head was you
know what, everyone's playing checkers, I'm gonna play chess.
Speaker 10 (18:38):
If we're over here questioning the lineup.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
Maybe he thought that would be as effective for Philadelphia.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, where.
Speaker 10 (18:45):
They wouldn't know how to handle it, but they did.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
He wasn't playing chess, he was playing Sorry he because
that was a sorry lineup. Sorry, that's good. It was
the green pieces because it was sorry. Derek White, Jalen Brown,
Baylor Shireman, who Ron Harper Junior?
Speaker 10 (19:08):
That's right, that one.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
And Luca Garza, Ladies and gentlemen. Luca garzas someone that
Sam had had, I don't know, campaigned for would that
be the way? Earlier in a couple of weeks ago
with Stut Gotts and is he is you were campaigning
for the Celtics to get more Luca.
Speaker 11 (19:28):
And he started Yeah, nine saw fault nine minutes, zero points.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Nine minutes, zero points plus minus negative fifteen.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
The three you just mentioned had zero points.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
The three you just the three three people in your
starting lineup had zero.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Not good at all. No, yet you had the Boston
Celtics still had an opportunity to knock off the Philadelphia
seventy six ers. But in the end, it wasn't Joe
Mizula's fault, Monci, it wasn't the fault of Baylor shireman
or of Luca Garza. Thank you for Ron Harper Jr.
Or anybody else who wore a Celtics jersey that I
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had no idea. I said they'd played guys with fractions
and decimal points on jersey numbers because I had never
seen those sort of numbers on jerseys that we saw
in Game seven. It was it was a break from
the norm. Nicola Vusovich didn't even play in the game
for Boston, was a zero minute contributor, a DMP coach's decision.
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Didn't play in Game seven. But that's that's not the problem.
The problem was the agenda, the agenda of the officials,
not my words, Jalen Brown's words. Jalen Brown saying that
he felt that there was an agenda of the officials
to tilt Game seven in a certain way that wasn't
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in Boston's favor.
Speaker 10 (20:53):
Lemira, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Jalen Brown did say that he had been He said
that they were calling the offensive fouls on him a
little bit more than others.
Speaker 10 (21:04):
And I think we have sound of Jalen literally saying this,
what are.
Speaker 12 (21:07):
Y'all talking about? They clearly had an agenda. They clearly
had on a red board. If Jalen does this move,
call the offensive foul line every time, I don't know
it's because I pissed the reps off. I've been critical
about him, and I called him out a bunch of times.
They were like, you know what I got you in
the playoffs? Watch this, and that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
And when were in the.
Speaker 12 (21:32):
Middle of this series, you know, I got time to
say none because that's a distraction.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I'm trying to focus.
Speaker 12 (21:36):
But now that's over. I've been doing that all regular season.
Everybody's been doing it all regular season. You gonna call
it on me every time?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You don't.
Speaker 12 (21:44):
Y'all don't see it like it's an agenda. It's clearly
an agenda. Look at the same move.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
I appreciated the music, yeah, to go along with it.
That was that was nice. And at first I actually
thought he was joking, like like the tongue in cheek,
like there's an agenda, right, you kind of give that
sly smile. You know, You're like it was an agenda.
You know what I'm talking about, right, And then he
kept on talking, and then he kept on going more
and more, and Jaylen Brown feels slighted. I have I
have a different soundtrack with music, and I think that
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would be that would be better. Maybe this is instead
of the agenda. Maybe this is why the Celtics ended
up losing.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Five on four. The on the.
Speaker 13 (22:28):
Way round the prime put three and the rebound of George.
Speaker 14 (22:40):
Three point k House it wakes up and he couldn't
claim it cleanly, saves it for Kada Brown on.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
The outside undertoo to play.
Speaker 13 (22:47):
In Game seven, Brown with thirty three points and eight
rebounds as a.
Speaker 14 (22:56):
Badge of you wants with MAXI here Porter shoot on
the fend off.
Speaker 13 (23:01):
He went right into them, bid and beat his herd
as he gets the rebound.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Boston Padley needs a bucket. Got his score here. Falsey
has to be the fast white into La one minute
to play a TV guard.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
How's a top three rebound a gray?
Speaker 10 (23:27):
Everybody missed, everybody quick.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Crown, We'll pull way off, rebound back to pound right
on the outside. No good, and the rebound on Max.
Speaker 13 (23:38):
He with twenty seconds to play, he's fould in the back.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Guard the quarters. More is more false. He's gonna have
to work fast hiding for Howser over.
Speaker 14 (23:51):
Blow comes up short next with him on the rebound
and and that'll do it on a five sec getting
to Prichers three off, the Mark rebound goes to ty
Race Maaxi and for.
Speaker 13 (24:05):
The first time in franchise history, the philadelph You have
seventy six sers have come back from.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Three to one down. They take out the number two.
Speaker 13 (24:14):
See to the east and the processes moving on to
the second round.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Hold No. Nine, one hundred yard final.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Situated Noah Egos, NBC Universal Peacock. All of those calls,
Phil Collins I missed again. One of the great songs.
We had to do the extended remix Monzie because there
were so many misses by the Boston Celtics late in
that game on Saturday, up ninety nine to ninety six,
Derek White misses with under four and a half to go,
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three point fifty three left. Derek White misses a three.
He missed again, ninety nine to ninety six. After a
couple of free throws, Boston's within one. Jalen Brown miss
thirty seconds later, Jalen Brown miss. You heard the Peyton
Pritchard miss. Jalen Brown another miss under a minute, Sam
how Gin. They didn't make any shots. This was a
one point game, So one point game with three minutes
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to go in Boston's best players on the court, whether
it's Baylor Shireman, Luca Garza, Jalen Brown, whoever, couldn't make
the shots. And so that's what annoys me when we're
talking about an agenda, and throughout this series, you had
it in your hands, Boston, you had an opportunity. We
just played four minutes of Phil Collins and could have
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played more misses from what Boston did on Saturday night.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
I don't know how many times.
Speaker 9 (25:31):
I don't care who won that game, but in the
fourth quarter I must have veiled five seven times.
Speaker 10 (25:37):
Stop shooting threes. Please stop shooting a three.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
And I said, if I'm Joe Mizula, i am saying
to Derek White, you take one more three, I'm pulling
you from this game. As a coach, how do you
not say that? Or I would have said, hey, you
know what I want, get me a layup. I want
to let let's see the ball go through the basket
before you take another three.
Speaker 10 (26:00):
How about that.
Speaker 9 (26:01):
Joe Mizzoula, to me, has been such a coach that
actually is involved and in this situation, Like you just said,
the agenda, let's say the officials had an agenda. I
don't think so, Jaylen Brown, But the agenda that your
coach had didn't make sense from the starting lineup to
the way it ended. We know that Boston lives and
dies with the three, but the games that they lost
in the series is because they shot under thirty percent
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from the three, and that is how this game was trending.
So you got to change the agenda, especially especially I know,
like any team that plays the Dodgers, I they circle
it because they want to go. They want to play the.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
Best against the Dodgers. Right, I think Boston maybe a
team that.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
People circle, but Philadelphia circles that until the paper rips dan.
Speaker 10 (26:43):
They are so ready for that game.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
So how did you not have plan CD E FG
for a game seven?
Speaker 7 (26:53):
I think they only had plans A, B, and C
is saying yes like that like that was. They may
not have had DE and FG. But to your point,
zero of nine from three point range in the last
five minutes ended up being one of twelve from the
floor in that span, but nine of those misses, again,
all misses were from three point range. Boston lived by
the three, die by the three sort of team. And
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to go along with that, my bigger issue is what
we did afterwards. And it's not Jalen Brown saying that
this is an agenda. My problem is is Boston trying
to have it both ways? Why did you rush Jason
Tatum back? Why did Jason Tatum rush back to try
to make a push in the playoffs?
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Right, of course, but not just I think you and
I sat here, maybe you were with Carrie and we
all talked about it. Carrie Rhodes, former NFL safety that
you host with on Sundays. Maybe we were all talking
about it together. But it was like, imagine him saying
he wants to come back because he's your star. How
do you tell him no? Because it was it was
a we had a conversation why are you coming back?
But watching his team have success without him, that was
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probably hard for Jason Tatum.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
Yes, and so he probably pushed it.
Speaker 9 (27:57):
It wasn't even just that the Celtics wanted him for
the playoff push. It was maybe Jason Tatum mean, I'm
coming back, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
This is what I think happened, and I think that
you're onto something. I think Jason Tatum probably wanted to
be a part of the party. He had Fomo. He
felt like he was missing out. You're gonna attack your
rehab in a certain way. But there's really no reason
why he should have come back at this part of
the season. Damian Lillard in Portland, you know, ruptured at
Achilles last year with Milwaukee. He mentioned after Portland was
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eliminated that there was maybe talk of maybe he could
come out and play, and it didn't even dawn on him.
So Damian Lillard, who sees Portland now actually be a
playoff contender, never even dawned on Dame to be able
to go and make a comeback. Jason Tatum tries to
do the Superman thing, and I get it. You're you're
an athlete, there's only so much time. But you can't
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tell me what happened in Game seven, And meaning Jason
Tatum not being there wasn't connected to him trying to
be fully healthy. Like I know it's been a while
since he's been back with the team, but I think
that's all part of the equation. So now Tatum rushes
back to your point of wanting to be a part
of the team and having Fomo. Boston's like, you know what,
this isn't a wasted year if we could get Jason
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Tatum back. Now we are contenders in the East, and
when you look at the East, you're only looking up
at the Pistons who hadn't been there before. So that
makes sense for Boston to go for it. So now
you get into a Game seven, we were starting three
players that shouldn't be starting. I know Baylor Shireman played
better at the second half of the season, but wasn't
the Celtics lineup that we necessarily thought that they would
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put out there. When you go for it like Boston
did and fail, you can't say, guess what, it was
a lost season anyway. You know, this is like there
were so many things that were lost because of it.
You can't just brush this aside. And that's where I
felt like Boston was like, well, we really want to
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go for it, and then now we're like, well, we
weren't supposed to be this far anyway, so we'll just
move on and get ready for next year. I think
there's so many things with the Celtics that happened this
year that will hurt them in the long run, even
more so than just losing the seven game series. But
you just have to take the L on the series.
This isn't we get We were got further in the
regular season in a higher seed than we ever thought.
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So we're just gonna live with that. Uh, you got
to take this L and you gotta wear it.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Oh. Absolutely, the minute that Jason Tatum came back and
they decided we're going to go for it. As you
just said, our initial or my initial opinion of what
the Celtics would do this season went out the windows, Like, okay,
you went for it to your point. Now I'm gonna
judge you based on that, not on oh you brought
Tatum back in a year where we weren't expecting it.
Speaker 10 (30:38):
Good for you. No, you went for it and you
were up three to one.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
So even even with that, you had the opportunity and
then in a Game seven to come out with what
I felt was no desperation and a team maybe like
the Celtics doesn't show desperation. They have been there, done that,
live and die by the three and has worked for them,
So it's like maybe they didn't feel the need to
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show desperation. But it seemed like you could have used
it a little bit. You could have acted like this
was a win or go home situation, and it definitely
seemed like you thought you would have a game today.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
You say three to one, I just look up, You're
within one point with five minutes to go, and we
can't have anybody make a shot. So let's just to
recap Celtics as we look at them as a team.
Is their stock up or down after this series?
Speaker 9 (31:32):
Down?
Speaker 7 (31:32):
It's down? Jason Tatum now not available for a game seven?
Where is his stock down? Jaylen Brown unable to hit
shots in the clutch when he's the man he had
an opportunity to show. Listen, I understand that Jason Tatum
stole everybody's lines and winning an NBA title, I can
show that this is my team and I'm the one
that can lead it. What's his stock down?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Down?
Speaker 7 (31:55):
And then with the agenda in the stream, it goes
down even further. Completely lost weekend for the Boston Celtics,
whose stock as an entire organization is going down after
that tobacco on.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
Saturday, Joe mizzula stock went down for me in his
the lack of making adjustments. We emphasize how in the postseason,
in the playoffs, it's all about adjustments from game to games.
Sometimes it's from play to play, quarter to quarter. Where
were the adjustments in this one? It just seemed I
couldn't believe what I was watching it.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
I just was like, do they not know?
Speaker 9 (32:29):
This? As a game seven against against the Philadelphia seventy
six ers. Once again, all they want to do is
crush you and step on your throat. They just want
to beat you, They want to humiliate you.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
There's a bigger picture when you look at this series
as a whole. For Missoula, I would agree with that
You're harder on him than I am, because I still
think that they're there with five minutes left. Again, it's
just up to your players to make shots something that
they couldn't do. And I think your point is valid.
I I have more of an issue with what went
down and how that game was still competitive and it
was Philadelphia, and Philadelphia had everything going for him right,
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and I mean Joel, I mean except Joel Embiid getting
hurt twice in the game, a knee and a hip issue,
which is something we'll talk a little bit about later.
But I just go more to the players that actually
had the opportunities, Peyton Pritchard and an opportunity, why open
three in the corner? You know, bricked it? So it
was so bad it was and there is no agenda.
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There is no agenda, Not when you go oer of
nine from three point range in one of twelve in
the final five minutes of a game seven at home
against a rival that you have always beaten. She's wont Belanios,
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Speaker 2 (33:44):
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Speaker 7 (33:56):
Things just got interesting. You heard the news Anthonyards back
for the Timberwolves playing in Game one tonight against the
San Antonio Spurs. I think it's I think it's a
mountain to climb for San Antonio. I may sound cliche, Monci,
but winning and winning against a good team in the
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NBA playoffs when you haven't done it before, Minnesota has
done it before. I think it's a tough task for
the San Antonio Spurs. And now getting Anthony Edwards back
from Minnesota, I think makes things even tougher for San Antonio.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
They it's just unknown territory right for the Spurs in
this situation going into it, so I understand, but I
do think the Spurs are more prepared. Maybe then I
would have another team that is entering the second round
of the playoffs semi finals after not being in the
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playoffs last couple of seasons.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
Like, I don't know. I think I think the Spurs
can win it. But having Anthony Edwards is awesome. That's
that's how you want to see the series.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
They should win it.
Speaker 10 (35:05):
They should.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Timberwolves took two of three from the Spurs this past season.
But if we even just go back to last year
with Oklahoma City, right, Oklahoma City was the best team
in the NBA. They were the number one overall seed.
But yet every time along the way we wondered if
they were able to get it done because they hadn't
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been there before, they hadn't done it before, and they
had to prove their way. And they ended up doing
it and now like we look at their series with
the Lakers and be like, oh, yeah, thunder a gonna win.
So they got past that that mark you you talk
about sometimes having some difficulties sleeping. So my mom got
me this Nintendo nes thing where it's you know, it's
(35:51):
got just a bunch of games. Yeah, yeah, it's got
a bunch of little yeah yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
A little replica.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
I think it's got like a maybe a Contra game.
It's got regular Super Mario Brothers. It's got some of
the games that I have no idea, but it has
Super Mario Brothers and Super Mario Brothers three.
Speaker 10 (36:05):
That's all you need. And Mario three is that the
one where he flies yeah the tail?
Speaker 7 (36:09):
Yes, oh so good. So I have been playing that
and I got stuck playing the sun was sick last
night and went to bed early. My wife went to
bed I'm like, I'm gonna play some Super Mario Brothers
and love it. I was up till two. I was
up till two o'clock. But I can't get past this
certain world or the certain stage. I just get it
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doesn't matter if I have twelve lives, I cannot get
past it.
Speaker 10 (36:35):
Which one is it?
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Can you do?
Speaker 10 (36:36):
You remember?
Speaker 7 (36:37):
It's embarrassing because I'm a fifty almost a.
Speaker 10 (36:42):
Fifty year old.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
Because now I'm going into it, that's even more embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
It's only World.
Speaker 9 (36:48):
Two, the desert one, yes, yes, And you can't get
past the sun.
Speaker 10 (36:54):
Is it the sun that's chasing you?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
That's tricky, But I was I can do it every now,
and but I lost five lives on it last night.
That's what I feel. It's like for an NBA team,
You just you try and try and try, and then
we finally can break through. The next time you do
it again, it's it's easier, you understand, but until you
actually do it, you're stuck. And I'm stuck in World
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two right now, in that in that Super Mario Brothers game.
And was up until two o'clock last night. At one point,
I I at one point I had like thirteen lives
and I could not get past it. That is why
I think it is a tough task for San Antonio
now with Anthony Edwards, who's playing with two bad knees.
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Let's be real, if he's coming back from this one,
he had the runners knee on the other knee, so
it's not Anthony Edwards at one hundred percent. But we've
seen now other Timberwolves players have stepped up in his absence.
There's still with Dante DiVincenzo because of his Achilles injury.
He's not gonna be back at all until next season
maybe with the injury, so there's not everything is going
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for Minnesota. But I still just think a win against
Portland in a playoff series is not the same as
beating a team that's been to the Western Conference Finals
the previous two years. And it sounds very general and
it sounds very cliche, but I do believe it, and
I do believe that there's something there, and I do
believe Minnesota has shown that they can win games that
they need to win now they haven't made it to
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the NBA Finals. Maybe the Mavericks were better in Oklahoma
City was better last year, but in other previous series.
They have shown that they can win the games that
they need to win, and I think that that is
going to be something that the Spurs are going to
have to figure out. They may be better, but Minnesota's
beating them twice during the season, and now they'll have
an opportunity to do it again.
Speaker 9 (38:41):
I love the comparison because you hit it right on
the money. Once you get through a level that you can't,
all of a sudden, you can get through it much easier.
And so here are the Spurs, a very young team.
Just in general, right, I think Stefan Castle might be
not Stefan Castle, Darren Fox, thank you. I was like
Darren Fox the one that has had the most experience
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when it comes to the NBA for how long he's
been in the league. But I've never and maybe this
is his I have never looked at Minnesota in the
last couple of years and been like.
Speaker 10 (39:14):
I am scared of Minnesota.
Speaker 9 (39:16):
Minnesota has never made me feel scared them, And it's
not about not liking them.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
I just don't. I don't know. Like they're good.
Speaker 9 (39:24):
They're good, they've been to the Western Conference Finals, but.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
Like I have not been scared of them.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
I feel like with a gimpy Anthony Edwards, gangster and
major pain because of his knees, they're probably like, Okay,
he's coming out. That's gonna make a difference. But I
don't know if san Antonio looks at them and is scared.
I do feel that people look at Victor Winn Banyama
and maybe are not scared, but definitely know that he's
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gonna bring it. We've seen it from Victor WI when
Banyama doesn't have the attitude.
Speaker 10 (39:54):
He has an attitude that we're all asking and craving for.
Speaker 9 (39:57):
So I feel like they know that he's gonna come
out already ready to play the first second of Game one.
You don't have to tell him. It's you know, he's
not gonna warm up in the second quarter. He's gonna
come out ready to play. And so I just I
don't know. I think the Spurs are going to be
more prepared than a typical fresh team with you.
Speaker 7 (40:17):
Remember, this isn't a Spurs team with Greg Popovich either,
so Rich Johnson's also never been here before.
Speaker 10 (40:23):
Absolutely absolutely, but there is you.
Speaker 9 (40:26):
I got to give some credit to the to the
culture and the history that has been the Spurs, right,
there's I I just am giving them maybe too much credit,
but I definitely have never been.
Speaker 10 (40:34):
I'm scared of the Timberwolves. I've never felt that. What
about the timber Wolves.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
I don't know about the wolves.
Speaker 10 (40:43):
I don't hear it. I don't hear it.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
What do you guys?
Speaker 10 (40:45):
From now on, it'll be Minnesota, do you guys? The
rest of the way.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
Sam, you're picking a night Spurs or Timberwolves.
Speaker 10 (40:52):
Save Minnesota Timberwolves. I don't.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
I mean, I hear are timberwolves.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
For timber Wolves because there's more of an f there
isn't there say it Manty Minnesota.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
No, I'm not saying it the rest of the day.
The rest of the day.
Speaker 11 (41:09):
Everyone gives Monty guff for this, and I'm just like,
I let it.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
I let it be a long time ago. I'm just like,
thank you.
Speaker 9 (41:14):
I don't even hear it, though, so I can't adjust
it because I don't even hear it happens.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
Okay, Okay, I love it. I think it's the first
time that I've I don't.
Speaker 9 (41:24):
Think so, you mean, like on a Monday, maybe maybe
on a Monday.
Speaker 10 (41:29):
You is the first time.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
You brought it up, really started on the Cardinals.
Speaker 10 (41:33):
The Cardinals.
Speaker 7 (41:34):
Oh wow, Cardinals. Yeah, see that, she's got it. It's
it's for me. It's only timber Wolves and Cardinals, car.
Speaker 10 (41:42):
Cardinals, Cardinals, Cardinals, Cardinals, Cardinals.
Speaker 7 (41:45):
Yeah, there you go. You got it, You got it.
Speaker 10 (41:46):
So what am I saying?
Speaker 7 (41:47):
When you say seventy six you don't say anything wrong.
You don't say anything wrong. Listen, I come from the
Upper Midwest, so when I say grocery bags, like, what's
a bag? Yeah? Beg so don it's all connected. Yeah,
it's all connected. Well, Anthony Edwards back tonight for the Spurs,
Joelnesota or Minnesota tonight as they faced the Minnesota I
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was as soon as he's trying to make my cool
transition to Joel Embiid, because Joel Embiid is back the
process and yet he is injured as well. That's that
is nothing new, but a healthy version of Joel Embiid,
who had this to deal with a hip issue, had
Tyrese Maxey fall into his knee late in that game
(42:30):
against the Celtics. But by and large, Joel Embiid is
healthy and the seventy six ers behind a rejuvenated Joel
Embiid have advanced to the Eastern Conference semi finals. So
I ask you the question, Manzi Blanos, is Joel Embiid
now someone to root for?
Speaker 10 (42:48):
I think?
Speaker 9 (42:49):
So I think the seventy six Ers is that I
am rooting for the demise of Paul George for the
rest of time because of his way out of the Clippers.
So I'm not rooting for him. But I don't dislike
the seventy six Ers. I've been a fan, I guess
from afar of the seventy six Ers since I was
a little girl because of Alan Iverson. I think Joel
(43:10):
Embiid is a likable player and we have not been
able to see him get this far.
Speaker 10 (43:16):
And so I think this is like I feel like
a lot of people are like, Okay, now I'm gonna
root for the seventy six ers, all right, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (43:23):
Like, I feel like you said that you don't think
the Knicks are liked, right, or like a couple of yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:30):
Yeah, I don't think that the rest of the country
falls in love with.
Speaker 9 (43:32):
The Knicks, correct, And I told you, I was like,
I don't think people hate the Knicks, but I think
this matchup, I think what's happening now.
Speaker 10 (43:40):
Seventy six Ers are.
Speaker 9 (43:42):
The team that maybe most people are jumping on the
bandwagon at this point.
Speaker 7 (43:47):
To root for. So I don't think people were behind
Joel Embiid because of his injury history. Maybe that may
be unfair to Joel Embiid, but I don't think that
he was in by fans as a whole because it
was more about his unavailability or his inability to be
(44:07):
to play as opposed to being on the court like
someone like Giannis. I think in the Bucks runs that
they made, he was enduring to a lot of basketball
fans out there. I think Jalen Brunton actually with the
Knicks also can have a similar sort of feel. But
I think when you looked at Joel Embiid, you just
thought high draft pick, all the talent always hurt their
(44:29):
not I think that people weren't warming up to him.
Now after missing half of the season and then missing
the first part of this playoff series and the end
of the regular season because of an appendectomy, now he
comes back and he actually looks refreshed, when he looks
like a different player. I think that there was a
point that we wondered does Joel Embid have anything else left.
The seventy six Ers already missed the timeline if they
wanted to trade him, because now you have a player
(44:52):
that gives you diminishing returns. And in the games that
he played against Boston, which by the way, sure seems
to be the difference in that series if we really
get down to it, the Sixers seem like a different team.
But now they seem different because he's healthy, and it
seems different because maybe there is seven seed and maybe
it is a little bit of Paul George also coming back.
But I think something turned with Embiid. I think people
(45:14):
are warming up to them. Of the Celtics, Nicks and
seventy six Ers, I think the Celtics are disliked by
the most people. I think the Knicks are next, and
then I think it would be the seventy six Ers.
But I don't even know if people dislike the seventy
six Ers right anymore. There hasn't been anything too dislike
about them except Joel Embiid not being available for his
team's games, and now he is. Now they're an underdog.
(45:34):
Now they're facing the Knicks, a team that people may
not like, and I think that Joel Embiid now has
this feel good story behind him, and the Sixers do
as well. That could carry them even further in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (45:45):
I'm scared of the seventy six Ers. If I'm on
the East, I I am scared of.
Speaker 10 (45:50):
The seventy six Ers. Not only as you just hit it.
Speaker 9 (45:53):
Joelle Embiid looks better than I think we all anticipated
because of the history.
Speaker 10 (45:58):
Of him just not being available, which has been the
front straighting part.
Speaker 9 (46:00):
And if you're a Sixers fan this entire time, you've
watched your front office make move after move after move
to try and make this process work. And it's taken
a while, right, It's taken I don't know how many years.
At this point, the process has been in it process
and processing is processing.
Speaker 10 (46:16):
The process been processing.
Speaker 9 (46:18):
But this team, like, aside from Joel Embiid, Tyree Smaxy
has been carrying that team whenever Joel Embiid was down.
Speaker 10 (46:27):
And he is one of the fastest players in the league.
Speaker 9 (46:29):
Paul George not having to play because he was suspended,
not because he.
Speaker 10 (46:35):
Was injured and had to rehab.
Speaker 9 (46:38):
This dude was just chilling at home, probably working on
his game, but not doing anything too much to his body.
Speaker 10 (46:44):
He's fully refreshed.
Speaker 9 (46:45):
Both of these players, Joel Embid and Paul George, played
under forty games this year, and here they are seeming
like they're in mid season form, not postseason where everyone
else is dragging and tired.
Speaker 10 (46:57):
They both look really good. The Sixers look scary. They
look like they can absolutely come out of the East.
Speaker 9 (47:05):
And if we would have been having this conversation ten
days ago, I wouldn't have said that to that point.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
And I know you can't do it with every player,
but I also think that this is bad news for
the NBA, and it's bad news for the NBA because
you see the Sixers and their key components in Paul George.
To your point about the suspension, well put. But with Embeed,
I think you who played thirty eight regular season game.
Speaker 10 (47:26):
It was something again, Yeah, you're thirty for both, yeah.
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Correct. So now you're telling me that you can have
their best players older in age. George is in the
sixteenth season, older in age, miss half of the season
and now look like the most dangerous team in the East.
That's not good. And you look out to the West
and you have Anthony Edwards. Now is two bad knees.
You have a Lakers team that doesn't have Luka Doncic
and Austin Reeves trying to come back from his injury.
(47:50):
So what we are seeing with the seventy six ers
is not good for Adam Silver and the NBA to say,
like your strongest team, fifty percent of what makes them
good is that their players missed half the season. It's
right because if Embiid played sixty five games and maybe
he's second team All NBA, but guess what, he's probably
not fully healthy for the Eastern Conference semifinals.
Speaker 9 (48:11):
Yeah, it's something I've never understood because in baseball, when
you get suspended, it's like you're suspended and the postseason
like you can maybe you're suspended only X amount of games,
but you can't play in the postseason. That's typically tied
into when you get in trouble. This, as you said,
it's going to be something if the Sixers get far,
if they make it to the finals, let's say they
win this, it has to be something that is discussed
(48:33):
because to your point, look at all the stars that
are hurt because they tried and played the whole season,
and they have two that did it.
Speaker 7 (48:41):
Yeah, right, and this has made them stronger. And I
think that people would say I would rather have this
than have them play sixty five games between mid October
and mid April. Like this is another I don't want.
I hate to use the word indictment on the NBA's
regular season, But if this is what is happening, if
this is what we are we are playing, guess what.
Maybe guys shouldn't be playing seventeen and eighteen years. I
(49:03):
don't know. I actually think that it could be a
problem in the NBA because we can't move on from
older stars because they're still hanging around in some way
or another. So we're talking about Lebron James, We're talking
about Kevin Durant in the Rocket kind of.
Speaker 10 (49:16):
Put a cap on the amount of years you playing.
Speaker 7 (49:18):
The essay, I'm just saying, if guys are if they're
that good and they're that valuable, and you see Joel
Embiid and again, and I'm saying, relatively healthy appendect to me,
there's nothing that you could do about that. And he
got banged up, he had his hip working on and
I mentioned the knee thing with Maxie, that video of.
Speaker 10 (49:36):
Him stretching on the sideline so funny.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
Yeah, I just I think that it's an indictment on
the NBA. It really is, But anyway, Joel Embiid is
now a feel good story
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