July 13, 2026 • 53 mins
On this edition of The Best of Stugotz and Company LIVE!: Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos filling in for Stu and the guys as they discuss the controversial VAR decision from the Argentina - Switzerland quarterfinal game that resulted in a Swiss player getting a red card. Dan and Monse disagree about how things went down between Bam Adebayo and his former teammate Tyler Herro over the weekend. Dan and Monse react to an Instagram post by Steelers' QB Aaron Rodgers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
And then there were four we're talking about four left
in the World Cup, which resumes again tomorrow. Plus it's
a very very special week. Moncy Belanos, you want to
know why.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Why is it your half birthday?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes, birthday, birthday, half birthday?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Quick? In my head, I was like, is it already
the halfway for I.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Thought you were gonna say Open Championship week, final major
of the year at Royal Birkdale. But it's Thursday.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It's the half birthday. Oh, getting closer to the Big five.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You know, it's dangerous.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It is dangerous. You're so excited. That's not normal.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm not excited. The smile masks, the tears that are inside.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
It's all right.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
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Speaker 3 (01:22):
So the final four is set tomorrow it's France against Spain, Yes,
and then on Wednesday it's England. Why are we applauding, Sam?
Were you applauding because both of those teams we wanted
both of those countries or it was just good play
by France in Spain to get there. You just excited
and go England, Go.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
England, Go England. Is that who we're rooting for? That's
who I'm rooting for the rest of the way. Yeah, okay,
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
This is the this There's one thing that I am
not applauding about this. I hate it when all number
one seeds make it to the final four in the
NCAA tournament, and I hate it when the top four
seeds in the world in the FIFA rankings end up
making it to the World Cup semi finals. I wanted
some drama. I wanted something new, I wanted something different.
(02:11):
Doesn't mean that we aren't going to get spectacular matches,
which we are on Tuesday and Wednesday, but I like
the drama of it. I like Moroccuo making it far,
Croatia making it all the way to the to the
final match like they did eight years ago. I liked
those things. This is chalk in a way, but it's
(02:34):
the conversation that we have coming out of this weekend
has nothing to do Manzi with France holding serves Spain
doing the same against Belgium. By the way, Belgium's pretty
quiet now, pretty pretty quiet, pretty big, pretty big quiet.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
We can go to Belgium now.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Silence. Our notifications are pretty quiet from Belgium.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They have been pretty quiet.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, Spain held serve England in that crazy victory against Norway,
which was an entertaining watch, and then the exact opposite
happened on Saturday night, and there were a lot of
different ways and a lot of different angles on Argentina
against Switzerland. But let's be real, for about forty minutes
of that match, it was boring, and it was boring
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because it was a one sided affair. But how we
got to the one side of affair is anything butt boring.
The red card that was handed out to Mbolo from
Switzerland ended up forcing the Swiss to play with ten
men for the final thirty minutes of regulation time and
then playing with ten men in extra time as the
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score was knotted up at one apiece, Argentina was finally
able to break through and then they added another goal
late to end up winning the match three to one.
But it's how we got from eleven to ten that
seems to be the conversation Manzi on should the yellow card,
the second yellow card have been given to real Mbolo
for the simulation on the tackle or the non tackle
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by the Argentine player. Do you believe that the correct
call was made in that situation to diminish Switzerland's lineup
from eleven to ten.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yes, it was the correct call, but it was very
in the moment, I just was like, oh.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
How convenient for Argentina. How convenient that you In all of.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
These matches that we've seen, Argentina has been tested in
ways that I think the other top three teams necessarily
haven't been. Like Argentina has I escaped some matches, you
know what I'm saying. Like, especially even go back to
Cape verdie Go, back to Egypt, Egypt looked like the
better team.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
They should have won that game. So in this situation,
even though it was the right call.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I couldn't help but just think, oh, how convenient for Argentina.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And I think that there is a conversation Mancy that
isn't happening from the match that happened prior because of
the call of the soccer ball that did or didn't
hit the cable wire from the camera in the Norway
England match. The technology used by FIFA that they wanted
to tweet out showed that the ball did not alter
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The chip in the ball was not altered by any means,
so they're saying it didn't hit the cable. This ended
up allowing England to score and ended up having Norway
in a situation where they felt that they were quite wronged,
that they were wrong, they were on the wrong side
of a call. But no one's talking about that. We
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are only talking about what happened was with Switzerland and Argentina.
And it's the point that you make. You made, is
that if there's any rigging going on, people feel that
it is for Argentina.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
It seems a lot of a lot of calls, a
lot of moments, a lot of situations have gone in
Argentina's favor throughout this entire tournament.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
And that was just another one.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
And it's just kind of like, I feel like I've
seen this happen with other in the NFL, when the
Chiefs were just winning and every call went their way,
and some of the calls were the right calls, but
you were just like, Okay, another.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Call in their favor, And here they are playing an Arrowhead.
How funny that I bring them up.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
The connection there Chiefs Argentina, they're the same one at Arrowhead.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
They get all the calls.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
So it's just hard to not think of that, to
not believe that they really do want Argentina to be there.
Because of Leon d Messi's final run, it's impossible for
me to not think that there's some rigging going on
this time.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I think that there are people who are emotional, but
I think that there are also people who may may
be more level headed, that maybe don't have a dog
in the fight, that have a different perspective, like our
executive producer Jason Stewart. You see the yellow card coming
down on the Argentina Switzerland match, you see Switzerland go
from eleven down to ten, and your emotions were what.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
My emotions were? Good. I'm glad that the flopping was
penalized on that stage at that moment. So the counterpoint
to just let the players decide the game. Why would
you make that call at that juncture of the game.
It's too important, And I would argue that is a
great way to enforce a deterrent on this stage, in
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front of everybody, you are not allowed to flop. It's
been a point of emphasis from the referees. I guess
all World Cup I've been told and then so I'm
guessing for the semi finals, in the final, maybe players
will think twice, maybe they'll have that hesitation before doing
this complete farcical flopping thing that I think most people
(07:55):
are in agreement with me, most Americans anyways. Flopping works
again soccer's popularity in this country. I think it's something
that's off putting. It's something that's it's unseemly. It shouldn't
be a part of any sport. It's overly dramatic and
it takes away from I think, this competition. So I'm
(08:15):
glad to see it enforced in that moment, telling players
and coaches we're gonna enforce this.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
This is the This is where I look at it
from Monty. Have you ever been pulled over by an
officer and only been given a warning. Maybe okay, of
course he did. Okay, There's never been a time that
the officer maybe maybe one time in my life they said,
all right, we're just gonna let you slide on this. Otherwise,
(08:43):
every time it's like ticket. Guess what ticket? Ticket? Ticket?
Why you get warnings and I don't. I have no idea. However,
they are the same. They are one and the same,
and the reason being when I pull away from the ticket,
I don't go eight on the freeway again, right, I
don't immediately crank it up and pass all the other
(09:05):
cars that just passed me while I was getting a ticket.
When you get a warning on a traffic ticket, what
do you do? And I need two and ten? Right,
this seatbelt is buckled up. We are keeping you know what.
I'm gonna just turn on the blinker now. I know
I don't turn for another half mile, but let's just
be safe, so everybody's aware. In that immediate moment.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You adjust, you are, yes, you adjust.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You play it safe. Huh, you play it safe. You
were given a warning. I was given a ticket if
I got a speeding ticket and then burned out of
the lane as I was leaving and then the cop
pulls me over again. Probably not gonna just get a ticket. Yeah,
probably going to be more severe penalty. So with all
that being said, it goes to what happened to Mbolo
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on Saturday. To Jason's point, Jason is happy that it
ends up being a call that costs Switzerland severely because
of how it happened. This could have been the reversal.
This could have been an embellishment at first, a simulation
at first, and then a tackle on a red card.
(10:14):
I'll tell you what, though, if you don't have the tackle,
or if there is no red card, maybe you're still
going full bore. It is all on Ambolo who had
the yellow card, for playing it safe and for understanding
the moment. So while Jason wants to crack down on
the flopping in soccer, I just want to crack down
(10:35):
on the idiots who think they can still do all
the same things that they did when they're on a
very very thin line. And that's my issue with it
is it's not a Does this put a bigger spotlight
on flopping? Absolutely it does, no doubt about it. Do
I think it's gonna curtail it or stop it. No,
not in the least do I think it's going to happen.
(10:57):
And that's why when I look at what happened with Imbolo,
I'm just like, man, you gotta be smarter, Like that's
where I end up falling on this. And I think
that var in this case. As much as I wanted
to be Vargentina and say this thing is rigged and
blame it on Argentina getting all the calls, in this case,
Viar was used properly in Switzerland had to pay the
(11:19):
ultimate price because one of their players wasn't smart enough
to realize that he was already on thin ice.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
You guys are not wrong, You're not wrong. There was
one person to blame and it's him. You already had
a yellow card. Why would you flop? Because I feel
like that's what is where we're scratching our head in
the sense. It wasn't that you got a second yellow
card because of a late tackle like you got the
first one. This was straight up you embellishing something you
(11:46):
didn't need to do. This, It wasn't This wasn't a
tough play where you went to try and tackle and
get the ball. This was you one hundred percent trying
to get something that wasn't right? You were trying to
steal that moment that player from Argentina they probably could
have got they were they were given a yellow card
right in the moment, yes, and then they in the moment,
So it's just like, why did you? Why did you
(12:09):
do this? There's nobody else to blame but you. You
guys are not wrong in all of that. But I
will say my opinion of flopping with soccer has changed
from being somebody watching soccer from Afar to now somebody
who's been watching it intently like I care for the
last month.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I The flopping to me is different.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It doesn't bother me the way I thought I would
be bothered by it from Afar. It's actually it makes
me laugh when it happens. And then play continues and
the ress like I don't care, and the person's like
on the floor and then gets up. I realize those
flopping happens, not like the one that we're talking about
specifically from us the Switzerland player, but the flopping happens
because man, soccer is a lot more physical than I thought,
(12:49):
and those guys just need a reason to catch a break,
They're like, I just need a second.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
On the ground, yo, Like, I am so tired. Though,
this is so physical.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
When I see them dry being on the sideline driving dribbling,
they used dribbling for this and it throws me off
a little bit. But when I see them going down
the sideline and they're just pushing the guy, trying to
get him off balance to get out, and like, we
could just push each other like this. It is so
much more physical than I thought. So flopping really like
(13:19):
does not bother me the way I thought. And I
also agree with Jason's point of like, you know what, Yeah,
this is this. This is gonna be a message to
the rest of the teams for the rest of the tournament.
Now will be interesting to see if this does happen
again in an Argentina match, how it's handled the.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
The case of Embolo in that situation as well as
the as you mentioned that the yellow card would have
gone on to the player from Argentina, and then you're
hoping because that player maybe has a yellow card, that
some sort of change has to be made, maybe the
person has pulled from the match, Maybe there's there's advantages
obviously obviously, Yeah, yeah, for Embolo doing what he's doing.
(14:00):
Also maybe just not being as aggressive, which is what
Embolo should have been doing or should have been, you know,
in his mind. Why is my chair so loud? Ye,
there's just there's so many different levels to it on
why the penalty shouldn't have happened. And I think more
people settled on Jason's side as the dust settled in
the moment you're saying, oh, of course here's Argentina in
(14:22):
your free pass to the semi final. But ultimately I
think that people came around to the point in we're
so maybe immediate at that point of yeah, get the
guy out of there, but also just understanding the ramifications
of if this is the biggest problem that some feel
in soccer and there's an actual rule to deal with it,
just like flopping was in the NBA, then good on
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the official to do it, and including Alexi Lallis who
had this to say on the Herd.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
It does affect outcomes, and you are punishing this player
in the biggest moment of his career, and not just
punishing the player, but I'll be punishing the team. And
you know, there's an argument to be made that Argentina
was on the ropes at that moment, and so the
may have come and beaten Argentina.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Having said all of that, you broke the law. You
broke the law.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
And by the way, this is something that for years,
especially here in the United States, people have criticized and
lamented when it comes to the game relative to the
diving and the flopping and the embellishment. So in this moment,
the letter of the law was applied.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
If he didn't have the other red card, he just
gets a yellow card. And then maybe, as I muttered,
the rest of them, there's no difference. We had this
conversation and as Sue, when you talk about the Balligan situation,
I don't know how you could like the Baligan situation.
To me, was var was not used correctly in this situation.
I think it was used perfectly. And that is the
(15:51):
difference between the two. So I don't think that you
could be on the side of Mbolo and ball Again.
I think that there are two opposite sides of the argument.
But when you what I said here and talked about
the Balligan situation. We also brought up Draymond Green in
the twenty sixteen NBA Finals in knowing his flagrant foul
number was up to a certain point and that one
(16:11):
more would have had him miss a game. I think
Draymond thought that they had room because it was a
Game five and they could have won Game six. In
Game seven, they were going to be up three to
one in that series. So what's the big deal if
he misses a game and it ended up coming back
to bite them. I also think Manzi, it's an argument
that I know that you made here of Luka Doncic
in terms of all NBA and missing games and with
(16:33):
your technicals and then the NBA giving him a pass
like when you think of when you think of that
and Luca missing a game because the amount of technical
fouls that he had, when he can affect his all
NBA standing right, like you know what's going on, you
know what's happening. Don't get the other technical fouls. You
shouldn't have to have somebody come in and save you.
(16:55):
And I applaud FIFA up more so than what the
NBA do in the Lucas situation for at least standing
their ground and doing what was right. That's the issue
that I have Isambolo nuie at a yellow card. So
would you do it? It is ultimately on his shoulders.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
So so true and so right, especially again when you're
playing Argentina. When you're playing Argentina, why why give any
ammo to the belief that maybe if there is a
gray area, that call is going to go in favor
of Argentina. So why would you put yourself in that position?
There is no excuse, and you're right. As the dust settled,
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even though in the moment I was like, there it
goes there, there is a clear way for Argentina to
get into the next round. Now that the dust is settled,
it's like there's no one else to blame but him.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Isaac glowing kron Is at the news desk. I knew
by the look on his face. Did FIFA and the
officials get it right on Saturday?
Speaker 8 (17:55):
It depends on what your definition of getting it right.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
WHOA, I love this.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 8 (18:05):
We used to have this same conversation about the NBA
and a supposed bias to get the major markets and
the superstars into the NBA finals and to play devil's advocate.
If those conspiracy theories are true, there's still gonna be
(18:25):
another World Cup in four years millions and millions of
people are gonna watch, They're gonna.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Make their money.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
I will say this just from my unique perspective from
the women's soccer standpoint, there is a ton less diving
in women's soccer. There is exaggeration, but it's not as
blatant where you get jostled and it looks like you've
been taken out by a sniper, which I think is
an interesting distinction between both sports. Now, it's definitely an
(18:56):
issue that we are now, especially with the whole card deal,
suspicious of FIFA's motives and it seems very nefarious, but
they're a monopoly. It's not like it's going to cost
viewership and most importantly, from their standpoint money.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't think that the referee had any other angle
to go to. And what's interesting is the point of
the Argentina in the red card of so many people
again saying like this is for FIFA to move Argentina along.
That match stunk for the final forty minutes unless you
were cheering for like Argentina. I didn't have it. I didn't,
I wasn't cheering for anyone. But it's one to one
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and then all of a sudden now one team just
completely dominates possession because the other team can't even take
an opportunity to go and try to score because they
fear it's going to hurt them on the back end.
It was an awful It was a bad watch for
the final forty minutes of that match, and I would
have to think that FIFA would not want that. But again,
I don't think anything fishy went on. I think it
was to Jason's point, it was the right call. I
(19:58):
think that va R was used correctly and ultimately it's
on the responsibility of the player here. It's not a
var argument. I think VAAR has worked great throughout the
World Cup. This is a player issue.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Yeah, for all of us who want to maybe believe
the conspiracy theories of Argentina being the favorite child when
it comes to FIVA and wanting them to.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Win, that moment didn't help my conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
She's Monzi Blanos, I'm Dan Bayer. The conspiracy theories will
not stop through this week or through Sunday of the
championship match, depending on what the outcomes of these matches are.
Hit her up at Monzi Bolanos. You can find me
at Dan Byer on Fox, Jason Stewart's Here as is
Iowa Sam and Isaac Lowencron.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
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Speaker 3 (20:51):
Happy Monday to you if there is such a thing.
Welcome in and his Open Championship Week Getting set for
the action Royal Birkdale. One of the perks that we
have in living on the West coast Monsei. NFL football
starts for us at ten o'clock in the morning, which
is nice in the early season, regular season games, it's
still light out when the Sunday Night football, it may
(21:12):
be dusk, but it's not pitch black. And the other
thing is is the Open Championship actually starts Wednesday night
for us like about ten thirty because they everybody goes
off on the first tee at Royal Birkdale. There's no
split teas they need the whole day. They got a
lot of sunlight in England and in Scotland where the
event is played, or last year in Northern Ireland. So
(21:35):
there's the opportunity on a Wednesday night before I go
to bed, I take in some open championship.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Golf, and then how late are you going to stay up?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Probably for about an hour or two. I'll stay up
till actually a couple of hours. I've stayed up till
one or one thirty. The problem is, then the better
players end up teeing off check at around that time,
and then at the time I wake up, they're all
done done. So I may see like a bogie or
a already early on, and then the I go to
bed and next thing you know, the player's done.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
You also just said if there is anything as a
happy Monday, I like Mondays. There's less traffic, there's less
people in the streets and in the stores.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I could go grocery shopping.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I have argued that Tuesday's the worst day, and the
reason being because you've already accomplished something, but you're not
even halfway through the week and you're still not on
a slog like you know, maybe off the weekend high. Sure, yeah,
but Tuesday is actually the worst day. During football season,
you come off of a weekend where you've had football Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
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and then you're like, oh, it's Tuesday, Tuesday, I put
my waiver Wire claims in I gotta wait for a
game until Thursday. I gotta wait forty eight hours for
a stupid game.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Exactly. But I'm more for that.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Tuesdays are the bluer days over Monday.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I just like that there's no traffic on Monday, and
again I could go to the store.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
It's not that there's not that many people out in
them out because it's Monday, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3 (23:16):
Now, Friday wasn't a great day for Tyler Hero of
the Milwaukee Bucks formerly of the Miami Heat. The news
that ended up breaking Friday afternoon, I look, we know
bam at a bio threw a punch or slap. Tyler
Hero did something struck him because he was unhappy with
a couple of things that happened with Tyler Hero having
(23:38):
an Instagram post about mid range field goal percentage, also
a text exchange, a private text exchange that became public
and bam at A Bio ends up striking Tyler Hero,
and honestly, Manzi and I think that this is completely unfair.
I understand that Tyler Hill the hero, is a guy
that people like to hate, that he can play the
(24:00):
villain role, but here he is the victim. And I
feel that maybe initially people were like, ah, he had
a coming, But the real problem in all of this
is Bamana Bio and I think that the bigger picture
is heat culture. And so as we've now kind of
simmered on what has happened over the last seventy two hours,
(24:22):
and no one's really talking except Tyler Herroll spoke with
ESPN at Summer League. Didn't appear to have really any
physical injury. I know some people were saying that there
was a mark under his eye. Whatever the case may be,
Tyler Hero is not the villain in this. He is
the victim of this. And I think that the biggest
culprit of it is not only it's Bamana bio, but
(24:44):
it's heat culture. It's a phrase that I can't stand
and it's annoyed me because it's tried to separate itself
from the rest of the NBA. But in a way.
It's almost bullying tactics, and I feel it's a bit
of a cop out for this to be the opportunity
for Bamanda Bio to do something with Tyler Hero when
he saw him every day of the week for four
(25:06):
or five seasons and nothing happened at that time, And
this is what's going to break the straw that broke
the camel's back. To me, it's crazy and baman of
Bio is completely in the wrong in this situation, and
Tyler Hero is not a villain in this spot. He's
a victim.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
I agree with some of what you said, and on
all of it, I do think that Bamada Bio, to
me is.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
The one that I'm looking at, like, why did you
do this? You are the.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Veteran player in this situation. You were not moved and traded.
You are still whatever you got annoyed about. Whether it's
the graph that Tyler Hero posted about the mid range
percentage of shooting with players, because it also had Janna
Santa to Cumbo on it, who is a new Miami
Heat player. Who was that a dig I'm not internally sure.
(25:53):
I just don't agree that necessarily this Heat culture is
to blame. In fact, you're saying, the first opportunity to
do this, you did it.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Why didn't you do it? You know while you guys
were teammates in Miami.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Well, it's because he knew that he was not gonna
that was not gonna fly around Eric Spolstra or pat Riley.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
It was not going to fly. He had to keep
it together.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
The first opportunity he gets away from mom and dad,
he does something that he's not supposed to. And I
think that's why I'm just I'm with you that it's
like this is all bam, Like what were you thinking
in doing this? But I'm not blaming heat culture because
I do think heat culture is a real thing in
the sense that those guys, if you play for the
Miami Heat, you are playing for each other.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I believe that.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I don't know if they play me basketball like in
other teams where there's one star, they play a team sport.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
And I think that's what I like about heat culture.
But it is crazy that there's no video.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah it's in a hotel gym, right that there's.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
A video every There's videos everywhere, So it's just like
goes more to show that video of Jordan Pohlan, Draymond Green,
that's impressive.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
How is there no video of this?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Jason remembers me saying it. I said it this past weekend.
The problem with the Warriors thing, they were more mad
about the video being leaked and it's not being leaked
because of heat culture, right, And that's not a good
thing like that. It's not like this is heat culture
of being a bully in doing those sort of things,
or if you're not on my side, you're going to
pay for it. Is absurd. You Donna's Haslam and Draymond
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Green are now having a bit of war of words.
I'm not sure if we do have the audio at
least on what Draymond had to say. But the point
is is not everybody loves heat culture, and it could
have been a reason on maybe why Jimmy Butler was
done with with heat culture. I think people thought that
he thrived because he led them to an NBA finals.
But if you have your Donna's Haslam on the bench
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to keep that culture in when he never plays, They've
had other players. I used the example of Juwan Howard.
Juwan Howard said on the bench for the my heat
never played. Juwan Howard Goes gets a college basketball coaching
job and slaps an assistant coach from Wisconsin during a
handshake line like, I know he's not wearing the Heat colors,
but there does seem to be some sort of heat
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culture sort of thing with it. You know what culture
I want is a winning in classy culture and having
bam Adebio go up because he doesn't like that Tyler
Hero said that you shouldn't make sixty million dollars for
being a good defender. I'm sorry, that's not what breaks
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the camel's back. That shouldn't be what makes the house
of cards fall, That shouldn't have been. That's it. That's
the last straw. I put up with it for so long,
and Monzi, that's it. That's what's going to bring me
to it. And I know that you're saying that now
that they're former teammates, that he had been waiting to
do it. Then I think that that is even more
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of an indictment on heat culture that you couldn't have
it out, and maybe more reflective of why the Heat
didn't have the success that they've had over the last
couple of years.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
But the Heat, I mean, what is success like the
Heat have what have been to at least the plan,
and they have fought.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
They have never they have never tanked. So I would
never say that they were bullies.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Like I hear what you're I hear what you're saying,
but I don't know if I necessarily agree with that.
And yet you're not allowed to act like a fool
when you're here, you want to act like a fool
outside of that?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
How is it? How are you blaming the heat culture?
You can't clearly while they were together.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I can assume that being part of the Miami Heat
the last couple of years may have been a frustrating
experience because they were there but it was never enough
and they were good, but again never enough.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
So I can see the frustration.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
In the being part of the Miami Heat when the
expectations are high and you're having success, but it's not
the success that you want.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
And so I you're here, you're not allowed to act
a fool. You get out, you're and you're allowed to
act a fool. And I don't I don't know if
I'm relating it to heat culture.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Heat culture. James Johnson, who is the guy that when
they do those player surveys. James Johnson's like the guy
who's a black belt in a bunch of different different
forms in jiu jitsu, and and James Johnson's their enforcer,
like nobody wants to fight him. Like the anonymous pool
is ninety eight percent of the league would not want
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to fight James Johnson. He's on the heat bench. He
donnas has them on the heat bench. You have these
enforcers there, and I feel that that that there is
this it's it. Whether it's a bullying sort of deal.
I know it's a grind. That's what it's supposed to be,
and it's about winning and hard work. But I also
think that in this situation, Heat Culture should have sorted
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out whatever differences bam Adebayo and Tyler Herro had had
over the last four years, that this shouldn't have been
the final piece of it. Heat Culture, if it's as
as great as it was, should have worked out whatever
differences were going on between the two because your culture
is so strong. If your culture is a way where
one player is upset that another player had a secret
DM released and then goes and pops someone, that's not
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a culture like that's that's awful. And so what happened
to Tyler Hero is awful. No matter if people wanted
to punch Tyler Hero time and time again, you have
an eighty two game season, the Heat and Bucks play
three four times a year. Take your opportunity. Then, at
that point, take your opportunity when you were teammates sort
it out. Then it almost feels like the Warriors, for
as critical as it was about the video going out,
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would however it was handled, at least had a somewhat
better culture. And I know that there were waves within
the organization, but to me, this is just the Miami
Heat being bullies.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
But see, like I agree, I agree with what you're
saying that to me again again Bam out of bio,
you look the worst in all of this, and I
feel like it's unfair that because he did this outside
of Miami, completely outside of the Heat culture, you want
to tie it into that. To me, it's like it's
clear as day that like he's taken advantage of a
situation because he's scared of what happens back in Miami
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like that, and.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Again, all of this just makes him look bad.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
There's no Tyler Hero, like you said, like you can
you can want a bunche of all you want. In
this situation, it seems like Bam is out of line
and it's disappointing.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Bam, you are You're still in Miami heat. You are
still very you. You are in a spotlight still.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But that's my point is is if the culture was
so good, you wouldn't have to wait till he left.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
But it was good.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
While the point is the culture, while it's there, you're
not gonna mess thiss up.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
It's not. But they aren't messing anything up. They they
Jimmy Butler carries them as an eight seed to a
final again again an eight seed. So it's not like
they're winning sixty five games, right right, So like they're
they're winning forty eight games or in or in the
playing tournament. So this culture that we talk about, not
only is it like winning basketball games and bringing championships,
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it's obviously suppressing all of the anger and frustrating, affecting
the chemistry. There were worst things said to Bam at
of Bio when he scored eighty three points, right, there
were worst things said about him. Then you can't hit
a mid range jumper, and why are we paying a
guy sixty million dollars to be a good defender.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
There's got to be something we don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Dan, there's stuff about this relationship between them two on
the Heat that we don't know about that why was
this that broke the camel's back?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
And the Heat culture, if it was as good of
a culture, would have cleaned it up. It would have
taken care of the issue while they were teammates. So
like when they have the alternate uniforms that say Heat Culture,
I just laugh. It's it's ridiculous because it's not as
good and it's not as cool as people want to
think that it is. And Draymond Green even says that, Jason,
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you want to give us the idea of what the
summary I guess of what Draymond Green was saying to you.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Donnis Haslam, and you talk about two people having an
history obviously coming into this, I guess Donnas has almost
real critical of Draymond Green and the wake of that
whole Jordan Poole thing. Uh But Draymond Green on his
podcast paraphrasing her, Uh So when I first saw this,
I was like, Damn, this is two young guys. Donna's
has them raised If you raise this young guy in
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the light of what you say about me, and now
he punches this other guy that y'all kind of co raised.
Are you going to have the same energy towards them?
And Owdonnas has responded on Twitter it's a long post.
I won't get into it, basically saying you were on
sucker bleep four years ago when you swung on your
teammate and you're on sucker bleep.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Now Dreamond Green what what like he is?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Is he crazy?
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Well?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
No, he is, he is. I just he does things every.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Single time like you called out Eudonnas has them in
this situation, like with everything that you have done, like
are are.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
They grown men? Or are they not?
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Like we're gonna really put this on Udonna's haslam, especially
coming from a guy that has swung on his own
teammate who was a younger teammate where he should have
been the leader, where he should have been the one
guiding them. This is just like, are we are we
we're really gonna call this guy out you out of
all people, Draymond Green.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
But his point is if you're gonna call me out
in our culture out when the same thing happens with
your culture? Are you going to remain silent? That's what
Draymond is saying.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
But like Draymond is in every headline and it's never
a good one. But does Dodonnas has Them have a
history that of being some somebody like Draymond Green. No,
So I just don't know how Draymond Green finds the
audacity to call this man out when he has done
so many wrong things in his career and is still
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doing wrong things.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
We're talking about bullies, that is Draymond Green.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Sorry, No, that's okay. Raymond Green was just saying that
Eudonnas Haslam had something to say about the Draymond Green
and the Warriors culture if you will, yes, during the
Jordan Pool fight.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yes, huh.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
So now this is on Eudonna's Haslm's watch that.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
He's not even a part of this.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
So Eudonis Hasm had a comment on Draymond Green punching
his teammate Dramon Green, Then you, who are not even
in Las Vegas right now, I'm gonna blame you.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
The only part that I think Draymond went wrong is
that he did it too soon. He didn't allow Eudonnas
Haslm to have an opportunity to talk about this because
it just happened on Friday. If Eudonnais Haslm would have
been silent for a week and never said anything about this,
because again he is the face of heat culture, He's
the face of it. I mean he never played in
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his final seasons there, he's the face of it. If
Eudonnas Haslm would have stayed silent for a week, then
I think Draymond would have been one hundred percent in
the right. The only problem is is Draymond cashed his
chips in too soon and didn't allow Eudonna's has them
ample time to actually respond to it. So now instead
of responding to the situation, Eudonas has Them gets to
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respond to Draymond Green, and now the point is lost.
That's the point where Draymond Green made an air. But
I don't think he made an air in calling out
Eudonnas Haslam, who again is the face of the Three
faces of heat culture are pat Riley, Eric Spolstra, and
Eudonis Haslam. So that's who it is. And if you
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have two players who spent all that time together and
I know you and I now disagree on what should
have happened during that time. But I think it's a
fair point. If eudonnas has Them was going to speak
on what happened with the Warriors, then he sures SEC
should be able to speak on what happened in the
Miami Heat, an organization that he knows a heck of
a lot more about than the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
I feel like we are comparing apples and oranges here.
I don't see how Draymond calling out somebody who's no
longer on the team, who was not at even set
event or location, relates to Eudonna's haslm making comments on
Draymond Green, who is a bully who has had multiple
incidences in his NBA career, calling him out for punching
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his own teammate, a younger teammate.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I don't, I don't. I don't see the connection here.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
I do I he's the Draymond's Draymond would be the
face of the Warriors culture in a good or negative way,
and I think that Eudonna's Haslam is the face of
Heat culture. I don't. I think that there's they're much
more comparable than than what you than what you see,
And I feel I'm not saying Edonna's Haslam should take
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all the blame. I'm more putting the blame on what
is heat culture, and and the blame ultimately goes on
Bam at a bio. But I think it's a bigger
picture with heat culture, and therefore I think that Eudonis
Haslam is a part of that.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Draymond Green is saying that this was Eudonnas Haslam's you know, teammates,
that he should have whatever taken care of them better.
I just can I can see Draymond Green if somebody
said to him or someone said, well, Steve Kerr should
have taught you better, he would have. I can see
Draymond Green saying, like, I'm a girl and ass man,
I make my own decision. Steve Carr has nothing to
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do with what I do. But now here he's saying
that Eudonnas Haslam does have something to do with the
raising of these NBA players inside heat culture.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Like I just I have a I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
He just wants if you Donnas Haslam had something to
say about Draymond, which Draymond obviously remembers what happened with
the Warriors. This is the comeback to that. You had
something to say about us. Now let's hear what you
have to say about Yeah, just happening in your own backyard.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Yeah, I had something to say about you punching someone.
Now you want to bring me in on a situation
that I wasn't even a part of.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Well, I think I in an indirect way, I think
he's a part of it because I think it's heat
culture and how absurd that is. This was this was
bought it by some heat culture and that's ultimately what
this I think is all about. You may not think
it has anything to do with heat culture, and I
think it has everything to do with heat culture. You're
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I'm going to be the British reporter and put words
in your mouth, but I think you're just like Bam
got ticked, realized that now he's not on my team.
Now I can finally do something. I wish you would.
That's what Bam had been waiting for since the trade happened.
I wish you would, Tyler Herroll. I wish you would
say something. And something was said and it gave him
the excuse.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
I feel like Draymond Green should have came after, should
have come after Bam out of Bio if he had
comment like, you should be critiquing Bam out of Bio
for what he did, not pulling this guy because you're
mad that he called you out.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I find it that Draymond probably had respect for you,
Donnis Haslam and then was surprised that he got called
out by Eudonis Haslam.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Everyone I know.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
But I also don't think that Draymond thinks that BAM's
probably on his level.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Oh right, well he doesn't. He doesn't. He probably thinks
Bam is below him, beneath him.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
And in a weird way, I think that he feels
that Eudonis Hashm is on his level, and.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Then eudonnas has Them is like, are you kidding me?
You're beneath me.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Sure. A lot of dynamics, a lot of dynamics within it.
But the only thing that Draymond did wrong was that
he spoke too soon. He didn't say anything wrong, He
just spoke to me, all right, she's Monty Blagos. I'm
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Speaker 4 (42:18):
Game's over.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
The Raiders have walked off the Astros on a sharp
ground ball single up the middle by Brendon Limo.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Yeah that's right. Final score was six to five. This
was on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Since you know, baseball took a break raised one Sunday night,
Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
When was the break? What days? Today?
Speaker 3 (42:38):
They just didn't play Sunday night base.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
They didn't play Sunday Night Baseball. That's what it was.
It was like as a break of the All Star Game.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
And what I love about Rangers Astros is they play
for a trophy. They play for the Silver Boot. Yes,
and I think that more. I think this should be something.
This seems like a very college thing to do.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
Isaac looked at me like you're crazy too, So we
both didn't know about this.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Is this every year? Is this every series? Is this?
Do they fill it up with beer after? Tell me
all the details?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yes? So they this started years back when inter league
play started because they were obviously natural rivals, one of
the nl N and one of the AL. But it
has continued through I believe when the Astros ended up
moving to the American League. They're calling it the the
Lone Star Series, the Silver Boot Series, and the winner
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of the series wins the Silver Boot. Yes, this is
this is a Usually we have stuff like this in
a in college sports. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that is
uh that's not the case.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
But it's it's only I do like this. Why why
don't like so?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
So like the Dodgers and Angels in the Freeway Series,
should play for a piece of blacktop is what a
piece of concrete pavement and then whoever wins the season
series gets to hold that movable trophy just like you would.
I was got what five of them? I was sa
so many? How about like a pothole, just like you know,
it's just cement with a depression.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
About some ozembic are that the needles needles?
Speaker 6 (44:20):
I would play for the silver homely shed in the
backyard of a girlfriend's house.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
They play for that too. I just I thought it
was I I believe that they still they still do this,
so it's my understanding.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
I really hope they do. That's awesome. I did not
know that.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Well, here's a picture of the boot on it. There's
the silver boot that you can so that's so good.
They obviously put the logos on there. But I think
that it's great. Rivalry wise in sports, the Steelers have
many rivals. They do. They do Ravens at one point
is the best rivalry in the NFL. I think if
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at rivalries with the Raiders from back in the day.
The Pittsburgh Steelers are in the news, but not for
rivalry reasons. Dallas seemed to get so much more of
the of the love from the World Cup, and maybe
it was because of the likes of Earling Holland, but
Dallas was a hot spot. It was the most popular
spot as well.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
And the food.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
It wasn't just early in Holland, but I feel like
the food was a big part of the attention early
on when the World Cup started.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
I need to see this raccoon. It's a stuffed animal.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Sorry, I was gonna say ranch barbecue and taxidermy. That's
what I want to know.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Is it a a raccoon that was alive at one
point and they stuffed it and he was.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Walking around.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
One the one that always used to go through my
garbage cans in my backyard has been missing for the
last several days.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
You don't like taxidermy, You're not you're not down with
stuffing the animal.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
No, I'm good. I'm not down for that.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
It's such a normal part of my life growing up
that if you didn't have a deer head in your eye,
now we didn't like if you shot a buck or
whatever like.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
That to me is a little bit more normal.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
But when it's like not something you've hunted that you're
put like some people want to do this with like
their pets when they pass Like.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
I just don't get that. I don't get that at all.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
I don't have stuff foxing your living room, Monty, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
I you know, Dexter's not still around, you know, in
my room.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Definitely not this raccoon. No, guys, I can't with this picture.
I that Okay.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Well, Texas is known for rodeos and there's one last
rodeo going on in the National Football What aeg By
the way, Aaron Rodgers is saying goodbye to the NFL.
Something that he let it be known when he signed
back with the Steelers and was asked not not straight
off of a press conference, but basically it was I
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don't want to say it was a throwaway question, but
it wasn't. But he confirmed that, yeah, this was going
to be his last season. He's also made a caption
on Instagram showing himself Michael Pittman, Junior, Roman Wilson, Mason Rudolph,
DK Metcalf, Pat Fryarmouth calling this the last rodeo and
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using the hashtag Bonding week. And I know this is
going to surprise you because I've been anti Aaron Rodgers
because it sometimes just I think he's absurd. I understand
this portion of it. We may want Aaron Rodgers to
win another Super Bowl, but Aaron Rodgers understands that this
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is it, that they're probably not going to win a
super Bowl. They may try and something maybe magical happening,
but the reason he is coming back isn't to try
to win a Super Bowl and it isn't for the
seventeen games that they're going to play. I think he
revels in this stuff. This is stuff that I heard
that he would do with his teammates in Green Bay
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even when he was a rookie. A lot of the
younger guys would get together that this is why Aaron
Rodgers comes back. And I can't hate on that. I
can't hate on I don't think it's going to be
a farewell tour. You don't play in every NFL stadium.
Half your games are at home anyway in the National
Football League, so you maybe going to eight or nine
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different spots. Three of those are in a division you've
only been in for about a year, so there's not
a lot of connection to it. It's different if Aaron
Rodgers and the Steelers are going to Green Bay and
even going to Chicago or Minnesota or Detroit, places where
he played a lot in his career when he was
a member of the Packers. But it's not about that.
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I think it's truly about stuff like this, and I
can't hate on it. I find football of when I
was young, I loved every sport Manzie, and the most
shocking sport that I realized that I hated to play
was football. The practice is the Oklahoma now. The drills
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that we would have a long time ago were a
lot different than nowadays. But I said, you had to
love football, You really had to love football. It made
you a special sort of person. And I think Aaron
Rodgers loves football. And I think Aaron Rodgers loves his
guys in those guys and he loves doing stuff like that,
and I can't hate on that.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
He loves the brotherhood, love football right like. It's not
just what's going on on the field, it's everything that
leads up to preparing for the battle that is each week.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
And I also think that I think for a minute
Aaron Rodgers was probably considering it, calling it a career.
And I think the Steelers were just kind of like
you could actually help us this year, just get us
to the next year. Like I think you you already,
you're very familiar with what's happening, a new coach that
you like, Like, you can actually help us just get
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through this in a division that has a lot of
question marks, a division that's no longer the division that it.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Used to be, a division that you won. Yes, gosh,
cheer like you did what you were supposed to do.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
So I feel like there was a moment where maybe
he was going to walk away from the game and
to agree with you and to add that I think
you're right. It was a little bit of like, hey,
you can help us out. Who doesn't want to be wanted?
Everybody wants to be wanted, and the brotherhood of it,
it's like letting go of that. It's not even letting
go of the game itself, because I think he knows
he's aging out of the game, but the brotherhood of
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it that's.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
Not going anywhere. But once he officially retires, that's going
to be gone.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Yeah. Aaron Rodgers, Jason Stewart, you've been a fan of his,
even at interactions with Aaron Rodgers, I believe so are
you good with last Rodeo?
Speaker 6 (50:37):
What I liked about is your point is that I
think that Aaron Rodgers appreciates the process too.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Right.
Speaker 6 (50:44):
You and I both read Slash listen to the book
that was written about him, and one thing that's pretty
clear is that he's really into the process. He's into
the math, he's in the prep, the training, like he
embraces this stuff and is a part of that is
his wide receiving crew and his offensive line. And I
think this the picture that kind of stuck out to
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me was like he's acknowledging this as his final year,
and it's almost like a litmus test to see, now,
how is the NFL going to react to this is
a This is a guy that's going to walk in
and put on a yellow jacket. But there's so much
like strangeness and controversy that comes with this guy. I
wonder if if the sendoff is going to be a celebratory,
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and how it's covered, how the other teams react to him.
But I think that when I saw this picture, that
was the first thing that came to my mind. It's
almost like Aaron Rodgers saying, all right, this is the
beginning of the end. How are you guys going to
react to this?
Speaker 3 (51:44):
I think that it's funny because I almost look at
it from the perspective of a DK Metcalf or a
Pat Fryarmuth or a Mason Rudolph, because it's also about
those guys, because in that book we saw how Aaron
Rodgers is finicky with friends, and I'll well, you gonna
be a very close friend, and then pretty soon you
could be on the outside. I don't think any of
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these guys are looking to be best friends with Aaron Rodgers,
but I do think it's a unique experience to have
a week with one of the greatest players to ever
play the position and some who actually think play the
position at its best in the history of the game,
and to be able to have that week. And that
goes along with the Rogers mindset of the team and
the players, what he does off the field, who he
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boxes out, who he freezes out, the different story, whether
it be family, whether it be whether it be friends.
For at least those guys that are involved in this,
I think it's pretty cool for them. And again, I
think it's easy to pile on Aaron Rodgers for sure,
and I think sometimes he lends he wants people to
pile on. He wants to be different in that sense.
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But I think there's something real and organic with what
this is and him coming back again isn't to get
that farewell when they leave Baltimore or from the Steelers fans.
It's honestly to hang out with his boys for a reason.
He could do this next year, but he's not playing.
It's not the same thing like this is for a reason,
and and I kind of like it.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
Yeah, I feel like it shows that even though, like
you said, it's low hanging fruit to hate on Aaron
Rodgers because he's so he does some things that are questionable,
He sayes some things, he has like an attitude all
of that. But to see him do this, I feel
like it just shows he knows the responsibility that he
has on his shoulders.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
And then there were four we're talking about four left
in the World Cup, which resumes again tomorrow. Plus it's
a very very special week. Moncy Belanos, you want to
know why.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Why is it your half birthday?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes, birthday, birthday, half birthday?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Quick? In my head, I was like, is it already
the halfway for I.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Thought you were gonna say Open Championship week, final major
of the year at Royal Birkdale. But it's Thursday.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It's the half birthday. Oh, getting closer to the Big five.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You know, it's dangerous.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It is dangerous. You're so excited. That's not normal.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm not excited. The smile masks, the tears that are inside.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
It's all right.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
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Speaker 3 (01:22):
So the final four is set tomorrow it's France against Spain, Yes,
and then on Wednesday it's England. Why are we applauding, Sam?
Were you applauding because both of those teams we wanted
both of those countries or it was just good play
by France in Spain to get there. You just excited
and go England, Go.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
England, Go England. Is that who we're rooting for? That's
who I'm rooting for the rest of the way. Yeah, okay,
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
This is the this There's one thing that I am
not applauding about this. I hate it when all number
one seeds make it to the final four in the
NCAA tournament, and I hate it when the top four
seeds in the world in the FIFA rankings end up
making it to the World Cup semi finals. I wanted
some drama. I wanted something new, I wanted something different.
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Doesn't mean that we aren't going to get spectacular matches,
which we are on Tuesday and Wednesday, but I like
the drama of it. I like Moroccuo making it far,
Croatia making it all the way to the to the
final match like they did eight years ago. I liked
those things. This is chalk in a way, but it's
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the conversation that we have coming out of this weekend
has nothing to do Manzi with France holding serves Spain
doing the same against Belgium. By the way, Belgium's pretty
quiet now, pretty pretty quiet, pretty big, pretty big quiet.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
We can go to Belgium now.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Silence. Our notifications are pretty quiet from Belgium.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They have been pretty quiet.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, Spain held serve England in that crazy victory against Norway,
which was an entertaining watch, and then the exact opposite
happened on Saturday night, and there were a lot of
different ways and a lot of different angles on Argentina
against Switzerland. But let's be real, for about forty minutes
of that match, it was boring, and it was boring
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because it was a one sided affair. But how we
got to the one side of affair is anything butt boring.
The red card that was handed out to Mbolo from
Switzerland ended up forcing the Swiss to play with ten
men for the final thirty minutes of regulation time and
then playing with ten men in extra time as the
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score was knotted up at one apiece, Argentina was finally
able to break through and then they added another goal
late to end up winning the match three to one.
But it's how we got from eleven to ten that
seems to be the conversation Manzi on should the yellow card,
the second yellow card have been given to real Mbolo
for the simulation on the tackle or the non tackle
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by the Argentine player. Do you believe that the correct
call was made in that situation to diminish Switzerland's lineup
from eleven to ten.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yes, it was the correct call, but it was very
in the moment, I just was like, oh.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
How convenient for Argentina. How convenient that you In all of.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
These matches that we've seen, Argentina has been tested in
ways that I think the other top three teams necessarily
haven't been. Like Argentina has I escaped some matches, you
know what I'm saying. Like, especially even go back to
Cape verdie Go, back to Egypt, Egypt looked like the
better team.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
They should have won that game. So in this situation,
even though it was the right call.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I couldn't help but just think, oh, how convenient for Argentina.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And I think that there is a conversation Mancy that
isn't happening from the match that happened prior because of
the call of the soccer ball that did or didn't
hit the cable wire from the camera in the Norway
England match. The technology used by FIFA that they wanted
to tweet out showed that the ball did not alter
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The chip in the ball was not altered by any means,
so they're saying it didn't hit the cable. This ended
up allowing England to score and ended up having Norway
in a situation where they felt that they were quite wronged,
that they were wrong, they were on the wrong side
of a call. But no one's talking about that. We
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are only talking about what happened was with Switzerland and Argentina.
And it's the point that you make. You made, is
that if there's any rigging going on, people feel that
it is for Argentina.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
It seems a lot of a lot of calls, a
lot of moments, a lot of situations have gone in
Argentina's favor throughout this entire tournament.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
And that was just another one.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
And it's just kind of like, I feel like I've
seen this happen with other in the NFL, when the
Chiefs were just winning and every call went their way,
and some of the calls were the right calls, but
you were just like, Okay, another.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Call in their favor, And here they are playing an Arrowhead.
How funny that I bring them up.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
The connection there Chiefs Argentina, they're the same one at Arrowhead.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
They get all the calls.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
So it's just hard to not think of that, to
not believe that they really do want Argentina to be there.
Because of Leon d Messi's final run, it's impossible for
me to not think that there's some rigging going on
this time.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I think that there are people who are emotional, but
I think that there are also people who may may
be more level headed, that maybe don't have a dog
in the fight, that have a different perspective, like our
executive producer Jason Stewart. You see the yellow card coming
down on the Argentina Switzerland match, you see Switzerland go
from eleven down to ten, and your emotions were what.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
My emotions were? Good. I'm glad that the flopping was
penalized on that stage at that moment. So the counterpoint
to just let the players decide the game. Why would
you make that call at that juncture of the game.
It's too important, And I would argue that is a
great way to enforce a deterrent on this stage, in
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front of everybody, you are not allowed to flop. It's
been a point of emphasis from the referees. I guess
all World Cup I've been told and then so I'm
guessing for the semi finals, in the final, maybe players
will think twice, maybe they'll have that hesitation before doing
this complete farcical flopping thing that I think most people
(07:55):
are in agreement with me, most Americans anyways. Flopping works
again soccer's popularity in this country. I think it's something
that's off putting. It's something that's it's unseemly. It shouldn't
be a part of any sport. It's overly dramatic and
it takes away from I think, this competition. So I'm
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glad to see it enforced in that moment, telling players
and coaches we're gonna enforce this.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
This is the This is where I look at it
from Monty. Have you ever been pulled over by an
officer and only been given a warning. Maybe okay, of
course he did. Okay, There's never been a time that
the officer maybe maybe one time in my life they said,
all right, we're just gonna let you slide on this. Otherwise,
(08:43):
every time it's like ticket. Guess what ticket? Ticket? Ticket?
Why you get warnings and I don't. I have no idea. However,
they are the same. They are one and the same,
and the reason being when I pull away from the ticket,
I don't go eight on the freeway again, right, I
don't immediately crank it up and pass all the other
(09:05):
cars that just passed me while I was getting a ticket.
When you get a warning on a traffic ticket, what
do you do? And I need two and ten? Right,
this seatbelt is buckled up. We are keeping you know what.
I'm gonna just turn on the blinker now. I know
I don't turn for another half mile, but let's just
be safe, so everybody's aware. In that immediate moment.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You adjust, you are, yes, you adjust.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You play it safe. Huh, you play it safe. You
were given a warning. I was given a ticket if
I got a speeding ticket and then burned out of
the lane as I was leaving and then the cop
pulls me over again. Probably not gonna just get a ticket. Yeah,
probably going to be more severe penalty. So with all
that being said, it goes to what happened to Mbolo
(09:52):
on Saturday. To Jason's point, Jason is happy that it
ends up being a call that costs Switzerland severely because
of how it happened. This could have been the reversal.
This could have been an embellishment at first, a simulation
at first, and then a tackle on a red card.
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I'll tell you what, though, if you don't have the tackle,
or if there is no red card, maybe you're still
going full bore. It is all on Ambolo who had
the yellow card, for playing it safe and for understanding
the moment. So while Jason wants to crack down on
the flopping in soccer, I just want to crack down
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on the idiots who think they can still do all
the same things that they did when they're on a
very very thin line. And that's my issue with it
is it's not a Does this put a bigger spotlight
on flopping? Absolutely it does, no doubt about it. Do
I think it's gonna curtail it or stop it. No,
not in the least do I think it's going to happen.
(10:57):
And that's why when I look at what happened with Imbolo,
I'm just like, man, you gotta be smarter, Like that's
where I end up falling on this. And I think
that var in this case. As much as I wanted
to be Vargentina and say this thing is rigged and
blame it on Argentina getting all the calls, in this case,
Viar was used properly in Switzerland had to pay the
(11:19):
ultimate price because one of their players wasn't smart enough
to realize that he was already on thin ice.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
You guys are not wrong, You're not wrong. There was
one person to blame and it's him. You already had
a yellow card. Why would you flop? Because I feel
like that's what is where we're scratching our head in
the sense. It wasn't that you got a second yellow
card because of a late tackle like you got the
first one. This was straight up you embellishing something you
(11:46):
didn't need to do. This, It wasn't This wasn't a
tough play where you went to try and tackle and
get the ball. This was you one hundred percent trying
to get something that wasn't right? You were trying to
steal that moment that player from Argentina they probably could
have got they were they were given a yellow card
right in the moment, yes, and then they in the moment,
So it's just like, why did you? Why did you
(12:09):
do this? There's nobody else to blame but you. You
guys are not wrong in all of that. But I
will say my opinion of flopping with soccer has changed
from being somebody watching soccer from Afar to now somebody
who's been watching it intently like I care for the
last month.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I The flopping to me is different.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It doesn't bother me the way I thought I would
be bothered by it from Afar. It's actually it makes
me laugh when it happens. And then play continues and
the ress like I don't care, and the person's like
on the floor and then gets up. I realize those
flopping happens, not like the one that we're talking about
specifically from us the Switzerland player, but the flopping happens
because man, soccer is a lot more physical than I thought,
(12:49):
and those guys just need a reason to catch a break,
They're like, I just need a second.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
On the ground, yo, Like, I am so tired. Though,
this is so physical.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
When I see them dry being on the sideline driving dribbling,
they used dribbling for this and it throws me off
a little bit. But when I see them going down
the sideline and they're just pushing the guy, trying to
get him off balance to get out, and like, we
could just push each other like this. It is so
much more physical than I thought. So flopping really like
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does not bother me the way I thought. And I
also agree with Jason's point of like, you know what, Yeah,
this is this. This is gonna be a message to
the rest of the teams for the rest of the tournament.
Now will be interesting to see if this does happen
again in an Argentina match, how it's handled the.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
The case of Embolo in that situation as well as
the as you mentioned that the yellow card would have
gone on to the player from Argentina, and then you're
hoping because that player maybe has a yellow card, that
some sort of change has to be made, maybe the
person has pulled from the match, Maybe there's there's advantages
obviously obviously, Yeah, yeah, for Embolo doing what he's doing.
(14:00):
Also maybe just not being as aggressive, which is what
Embolo should have been doing or should have been, you know,
in his mind. Why is my chair so loud? Ye,
there's just there's so many different levels to it on
why the penalty shouldn't have happened. And I think more
people settled on Jason's side as the dust settled in
the moment you're saying, oh, of course here's Argentina in
(14:22):
your free pass to the semi final. But ultimately I
think that people came around to the point in we're
so maybe immediate at that point of yeah, get the
guy out of there, but also just understanding the ramifications
of if this is the biggest problem that some feel
in soccer and there's an actual rule to deal with it,
just like flopping was in the NBA, then good on
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the official to do it, and including Alexi Lallis who
had this to say on the Herd.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
It does affect outcomes, and you are punishing this player
in the biggest moment of his career, and not just
punishing the player, but I'll be punishing the team. And
you know, there's an argument to be made that Argentina
was on the ropes at that moment, and so the
may have come and beaten Argentina.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Having said all of that, you broke the law. You
broke the law.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
And by the way, this is something that for years,
especially here in the United States, people have criticized and
lamented when it comes to the game relative to the
diving and the flopping and the embellishment. So in this moment,
the letter of the law was applied.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
If he didn't have the other red card, he just
gets a yellow card. And then maybe, as I muttered,
the rest of them, there's no difference. We had this
conversation and as Sue, when you talk about the Balligan situation,
I don't know how you could like the Baligan situation.
To me, was var was not used correctly in this situation.
I think it was used perfectly. And that is the
(15:51):
difference between the two. So I don't think that you
could be on the side of Mbolo and ball Again.
I think that there are two opposite sides of the argument.
But when you what I said here and talked about
the Balligan situation. We also brought up Draymond Green in
the twenty sixteen NBA Finals in knowing his flagrant foul
number was up to a certain point and that one
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more would have had him miss a game. I think
Draymond thought that they had room because it was a
Game five and they could have won Game six. In
Game seven, they were going to be up three to
one in that series. So what's the big deal if
he misses a game and it ended up coming back
to bite them. I also think Manzi, it's an argument
that I know that you made here of Luka Doncic
in terms of all NBA and missing games and with
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your technicals and then the NBA giving him a pass
like when you think of when you think of that
and Luca missing a game because the amount of technical
fouls that he had, when he can affect his all
NBA standing right, like you know what's going on, you
know what's happening. Don't get the other technical fouls. You
shouldn't have to have somebody come in and save you.
(16:55):
And I applaud FIFA up more so than what the
NBA do in the Lucas situation for at least standing
their ground and doing what was right. That's the issue
that I have Isambolo nuie at a yellow card. So
would you do it? It is ultimately on his shoulders.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
So so true and so right, especially again when you're
playing Argentina. When you're playing Argentina, why why give any
ammo to the belief that maybe if there is a
gray area, that call is going to go in favor
of Argentina. So why would you put yourself in that position?
There is no excuse, and you're right. As the dust settled,
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even though in the moment I was like, there it
goes there, there is a clear way for Argentina to
get into the next round. Now that the dust is settled,
it's like there's no one else to blame but him.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Isaac glowing kron Is at the news desk. I knew
by the look on his face. Did FIFA and the
officials get it right on Saturday?
Speaker 8 (17:55):
It depends on what your definition of getting it right.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
WHOA, I love this.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 8 (18:05):
We used to have this same conversation about the NBA
and a supposed bias to get the major markets and
the superstars into the NBA finals and to play devil's advocate.
If those conspiracy theories are true, there's still gonna be
(18:25):
another World Cup in four years millions and millions of
people are gonna watch, They're gonna.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Make their money.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
I will say this just from my unique perspective from
the women's soccer standpoint, there is a ton less diving
in women's soccer. There is exaggeration, but it's not as
blatant where you get jostled and it looks like you've
been taken out by a sniper, which I think is
an interesting distinction between both sports. Now, it's definitely an
(18:56):
issue that we are now, especially with the whole card deal,
suspicious of FIFA's motives and it seems very nefarious, but
they're a monopoly. It's not like it's going to cost
viewership and most importantly, from their standpoint money.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't think that the referee had any other angle
to go to. And what's interesting is the point of
the Argentina in the red card of so many people
again saying like this is for FIFA to move Argentina along.
That match stunk for the final forty minutes unless you
were cheering for like Argentina. I didn't have it. I didn't,
I wasn't cheering for anyone. But it's one to one
(19:37):
and then all of a sudden now one team just
completely dominates possession because the other team can't even take
an opportunity to go and try to score because they
fear it's going to hurt them on the back end.
It was an awful It was a bad watch for
the final forty minutes of that match, and I would
have to think that FIFA would not want that. But again,
I don't think anything fishy went on. I think it
was to Jason's point, it was the right call. I
(19:58):
think that va R was used correctly and ultimately it's
on the responsibility of the player here. It's not a
var argument. I think VAAR has worked great throughout the
World Cup. This is a player issue.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Yeah, for all of us who want to maybe believe
the conspiracy theories of Argentina being the favorite child when
it comes to FIVA and wanting them to.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Win, that moment didn't help my conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
She's Monzi Blanos, I'm Dan Bayer. The conspiracy theories will
not stop through this week or through Sunday of the
championship match, depending on what the outcomes of these matches are.
Hit her up at Monzi Bolanos. You can find me
at Dan Byer on Fox, Jason Stewart's Here as is
Iowa Sam and Isaac Lowencron.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
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Speaker 3 (20:51):
Happy Monday to you if there is such a thing.
Welcome in and his Open Championship Week Getting set for
the action Royal Birkdale. One of the perks that we
have in living on the West coast Monsei. NFL football
starts for us at ten o'clock in the morning, which
is nice in the early season, regular season games, it's
still light out when the Sunday Night football, it may
(21:12):
be dusk, but it's not pitch black. And the other
thing is is the Open Championship actually starts Wednesday night
for us like about ten thirty because they everybody goes
off on the first tee at Royal Birkdale. There's no
split teas they need the whole day. They got a
lot of sunlight in England and in Scotland where the
event is played, or last year in Northern Ireland. So
(21:35):
there's the opportunity on a Wednesday night before I go
to bed, I take in some open championship.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Golf, and then how late are you going to stay up?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Probably for about an hour or two. I'll stay up
till actually a couple of hours. I've stayed up till
one or one thirty. The problem is, then the better
players end up teeing off check at around that time,
and then at the time I wake up, they're all
done done. So I may see like a bogie or
a already early on, and then the I go to
bed and next thing you know, the player's done.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
You also just said if there is anything as a
happy Monday, I like Mondays. There's less traffic, there's less
people in the streets and in the stores.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I could go grocery shopping.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I have argued that Tuesday's the worst day, and the
reason being because you've already accomplished something, but you're not
even halfway through the week and you're still not on
a slog like you know, maybe off the weekend high. Sure, yeah,
but Tuesday is actually the worst day. During football season,
you come off of a weekend where you've had football Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
(22:38):
and then you're like, oh, it's Tuesday, Tuesday, I put
my waiver Wire claims in I gotta wait for a
game until Thursday. I gotta wait forty eight hours for
a stupid game.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Exactly. But I'm more for that.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Tuesdays are the bluer days over Monday.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I just like that there's no traffic on Monday, and
again I could go to the store.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
It's not that there's not that many people out in
them out because it's Monday, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3 (23:16):
Now, Friday wasn't a great day for Tyler Hero of
the Milwaukee Bucks formerly of the Miami Heat. The news
that ended up breaking Friday afternoon, I look, we know
bam at a bio threw a punch or slap. Tyler
Hero did something struck him because he was unhappy with
a couple of things that happened with Tyler Hero having
(23:38):
an Instagram post about mid range field goal percentage, also
a text exchange, a private text exchange that became public
and bam at A Bio ends up striking Tyler Hero,
and honestly, Manzi and I think that this is completely unfair.
I understand that Tyler Hill the hero, is a guy
that people like to hate, that he can play the
(24:00):
villain role, but here he is the victim. And I
feel that maybe initially people were like, ah, he had
a coming, But the real problem in all of this
is Bamana Bio and I think that the bigger picture
is heat culture. And so as we've now kind of
simmered on what has happened over the last seventy two hours,
(24:22):
and no one's really talking except Tyler Herroll spoke with
ESPN at Summer League. Didn't appear to have really any
physical injury. I know some people were saying that there
was a mark under his eye. Whatever the case may be,
Tyler Hero is not the villain in this. He is
the victim of this. And I think that the biggest
culprit of it is not only it's Bamana bio, but
(24:44):
it's heat culture. It's a phrase that I can't stand
and it's annoyed me because it's tried to separate itself
from the rest of the NBA. But in a way.
It's almost bullying tactics, and I feel it's a bit
of a cop out for this to be the opportunity
for Bamanda Bio to do something with Tyler Hero when
he saw him every day of the week for four
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or five seasons and nothing happened at that time, And
this is what's going to break the straw that broke
the camel's back. To me, it's crazy and baman of
Bio is completely in the wrong in this situation, and
Tyler Hero is not a villain in this spot. He's
a victim.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
I agree with some of what you said, and on
all of it, I do think that Bamada Bio, to
me is.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
The one that I'm looking at, like, why did you
do this? You are the.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Veteran player in this situation. You were not moved and traded.
You are still whatever you got annoyed about. Whether it's
the graph that Tyler Hero posted about the mid range
percentage of shooting with players, because it also had Janna
Santa to Cumbo on it, who is a new Miami
Heat player. Who was that a dig I'm not internally sure.
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I just don't agree that necessarily this Heat culture is
to blame. In fact, you're saying, the first opportunity to
do this, you did it.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Why didn't you do it? You know while you guys
were teammates in Miami.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Well, it's because he knew that he was not gonna
that was not gonna fly around Eric Spolstra or pat Riley.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
It was not going to fly. He had to keep
it together.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
The first opportunity he gets away from mom and dad,
he does something that he's not supposed to. And I
think that's why I'm just I'm with you that it's
like this is all bam, Like what were you thinking
in doing this? But I'm not blaming heat culture because
I do think heat culture is a real thing in
the sense that those guys, if you play for the
Miami Heat, you are playing for each other.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I believe that.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I don't know if they play me basketball like in
other teams where there's one star, they play a team sport.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
And I think that's what I like about heat culture.
But it is crazy that there's no video.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah it's in a hotel gym, right that there's.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
A video every There's videos everywhere, So it's just like
goes more to show that video of Jordan Pohlan, Draymond Green,
that's impressive.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
How is there no video of this?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Jason remembers me saying it. I said it this past weekend.
The problem with the Warriors thing, they were more mad
about the video being leaked and it's not being leaked
because of heat culture, right, And that's not a good
thing like that. It's not like this is heat culture
of being a bully in doing those sort of things,
or if you're not on my side, you're going to
pay for it. Is absurd. You Donna's Haslam and Draymond
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Green are now having a bit of war of words.
I'm not sure if we do have the audio at
least on what Draymond had to say. But the point
is is not everybody loves heat culture, and it could
have been a reason on maybe why Jimmy Butler was
done with with heat culture. I think people thought that
he thrived because he led them to an NBA finals.
But if you have your Donna's Haslam on the bench
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to keep that culture in when he never plays, They've
had other players. I used the example of Juwan Howard.
Juwan Howard said on the bench for the my heat
never played. Juwan Howard Goes gets a college basketball coaching
job and slaps an assistant coach from Wisconsin during a
handshake line like, I know he's not wearing the Heat colors,
but there does seem to be some sort of heat
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culture sort of thing with it. You know what culture
I want is a winning in classy culture and having
bam Adebio go up because he doesn't like that Tyler
Hero said that you shouldn't make sixty million dollars for
being a good defender. I'm sorry, that's not what breaks
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the camel's back. That shouldn't be what makes the house
of cards fall, That shouldn't have been. That's it. That's
the last straw. I put up with it for so long,
and Monzi, that's it. That's what's going to bring me
to it. And I know that you're saying that now
that they're former teammates, that he had been waiting to
do it. Then I think that that is even more
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of an indictment on heat culture that you couldn't have
it out, and maybe more reflective of why the Heat
didn't have the success that they've had over the last
couple of years.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
But the Heat, I mean, what is success like the
Heat have what have been to at least the plan,
and they have fought.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
They have never they have never tanked. So I would
never say that they were bullies.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Like I hear what you're I hear what you're saying,
but I don't know if I necessarily agree with that.
And yet you're not allowed to act like a fool
when you're here, you want to act like a fool
outside of that?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
How is it? How are you blaming the heat culture?
You can't clearly while they were together.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I can assume that being part of the Miami Heat
the last couple of years may have been a frustrating
experience because they were there but it was never enough
and they were good, but again never enough.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
So I can see the frustration.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
In the being part of the Miami Heat when the
expectations are high and you're having success, but it's not
the success that you want.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
And so I you're here, you're not allowed to act
a fool. You get out, you're and you're allowed to
act a fool. And I don't I don't know if
I'm relating it to heat culture.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Heat culture. James Johnson, who is the guy that when
they do those player surveys. James Johnson's like the guy
who's a black belt in a bunch of different different
forms in jiu jitsu, and and James Johnson's their enforcer,
like nobody wants to fight him. Like the anonymous pool
is ninety eight percent of the league would not want
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to fight James Johnson. He's on the heat bench. He
donnas has them on the heat bench. You have these
enforcers there, and I feel that that that there is
this it's it. Whether it's a bullying sort of deal.
I know it's a grind. That's what it's supposed to be,
and it's about winning and hard work. But I also
think that in this situation, Heat Culture should have sorted
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out whatever differences bam Adebayo and Tyler Herro had had
over the last four years, that this shouldn't have been
the final piece of it. Heat Culture, if it's as
as great as it was, should have worked out whatever
differences were going on between the two because your culture
is so strong. If your culture is a way where
one player is upset that another player had a secret
DM released and then goes and pops someone, that's not
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a culture like that's that's awful. And so what happened
to Tyler Hero is awful. No matter if people wanted
to punch Tyler Hero time and time again, you have
an eighty two game season, the Heat and Bucks play
three four times a year. Take your opportunity. Then, at
that point, take your opportunity when you were teammates sort
it out. Then it almost feels like the Warriors, for
as critical as it was about the video going out,
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would however it was handled, at least had a somewhat
better culture. And I know that there were waves within
the organization, but to me, this is just the Miami
Heat being bullies.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
But see, like I agree, I agree with what you're
saying that to me again again Bam out of bio,
you look the worst in all of this, and I
feel like it's unfair that because he did this outside
of Miami, completely outside of the Heat culture, you want
to tie it into that. To me, it's like it's
clear as day that like he's taken advantage of a
situation because he's scared of what happens back in Miami
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like that, and.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Again, all of this just makes him look bad.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
There's no Tyler Hero, like you said, like you can
you can want a bunche of all you want. In
this situation, it seems like Bam is out of line
and it's disappointing.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Bam, you are You're still in Miami heat. You are
still very you. You are in a spotlight still.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But that's my point is is if the culture was
so good, you wouldn't have to wait till he left.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
But it was good.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
While the point is the culture, while it's there, you're
not gonna mess thiss up.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
It's not. But they aren't messing anything up. They they
Jimmy Butler carries them as an eight seed to a
final again again an eight seed. So it's not like
they're winning sixty five games, right right, So like they're
they're winning forty eight games or in or in the
playing tournament. So this culture that we talk about, not
only is it like winning basketball games and bringing championships,
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it's obviously suppressing all of the anger and frustrating, affecting
the chemistry. There were worst things said to Bam at
of Bio when he scored eighty three points, right, there
were worst things said about him. Then you can't hit
a mid range jumper, and why are we paying a
guy sixty million dollars to be a good defender.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
There's got to be something we don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Dan, there's stuff about this relationship between them two on
the Heat that we don't know about that why was
this that broke the camel's back?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
And the Heat culture, if it was as good of
a culture, would have cleaned it up. It would have
taken care of the issue while they were teammates. So
like when they have the alternate uniforms that say Heat Culture,
I just laugh. It's it's ridiculous because it's not as
good and it's not as cool as people want to
think that it is. And Draymond Green even says that, Jason,
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you want to give us the idea of what the
summary I guess of what Draymond Green was saying to you.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Donnis Haslam, and you talk about two people having an
history obviously coming into this, I guess Donnas has almost
real critical of Draymond Green and the wake of that
whole Jordan Poole thing. Uh But Draymond Green on his
podcast paraphrasing her, Uh So when I first saw this,
I was like, Damn, this is two young guys. Donna's
has them raised If you raise this young guy in
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the light of what you say about me, and now
he punches this other guy that y'all kind of co raised.
Are you going to have the same energy towards them?
And Owdonnas has responded on Twitter it's a long post.
I won't get into it, basically saying you were on
sucker bleep four years ago when you swung on your
teammate and you're on sucker bleep.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Now Dreamond Green what what like he is?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Is he crazy?
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Well?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
No, he is, he is. I just he does things every.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Single time like you called out Eudonnas has them in
this situation, like with everything that you have done, like
are are.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
They grown men? Or are they not?
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Like we're gonna really put this on Udonna's haslam, especially
coming from a guy that has swung on his own
teammate who was a younger teammate where he should have
been the leader, where he should have been the one
guiding them. This is just like, are we are we
we're really gonna call this guy out you out of
all people, Draymond Green.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
But his point is if you're gonna call me out
in our culture out when the same thing happens with
your culture? Are you going to remain silent? That's what
Draymond is saying.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
But like Draymond is in every headline and it's never
a good one. But does Dodonnas has Them have a
history that of being some somebody like Draymond Green. No,
So I just don't know how Draymond Green finds the
audacity to call this man out when he has done
so many wrong things in his career and is still
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doing wrong things.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
We're talking about bullies, that is Draymond Green.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Sorry, No, that's okay. Raymond Green was just saying that
Eudonnas Haslam had something to say about the Draymond Green
and the Warriors culture if you will, yes, during the
Jordan Pool fight.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yes, huh.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
So now this is on Eudonna's Haslm's watch that.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
He's not even a part of this.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
So Eudonis Hasm had a comment on Draymond Green punching
his teammate Dramon Green, Then you, who are not even
in Las Vegas right now, I'm gonna blame you.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
The only part that I think Draymond went wrong is
that he did it too soon. He didn't allow Eudonnas
Haslm to have an opportunity to talk about this because
it just happened on Friday. If Eudonnais Haslm would have
been silent for a week and never said anything about this,
because again he is the face of heat culture, He's
the face of it. I mean he never played in
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his final seasons there, he's the face of it. If
Eudonnas Haslm would have stayed silent for a week, then
I think Draymond would have been one hundred percent in
the right. The only problem is is Draymond cashed his
chips in too soon and didn't allow Eudonna's has them
ample time to actually respond to it. So now instead
of responding to the situation, Eudonas has Them gets to
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respond to Draymond Green, and now the point is lost.
That's the point where Draymond Green made an air. But
I don't think he made an air in calling out
Eudonnas Haslam, who again is the face of the Three
faces of heat culture are pat Riley, Eric Spolstra, and
Eudonis Haslam. So that's who it is. And if you
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have two players who spent all that time together and
I know you and I now disagree on what should
have happened during that time. But I think it's a
fair point. If eudonnas has Them was going to speak
on what happened with the Warriors, then he sures SEC
should be able to speak on what happened in the
Miami Heat, an organization that he knows a heck of
a lot more about than the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
I feel like we are comparing apples and oranges here.
I don't see how Draymond calling out somebody who's no
longer on the team, who was not at even set
event or location, relates to Eudonna's haslm making comments on
Draymond Green, who is a bully who has had multiple
incidences in his NBA career, calling him out for punching
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his own teammate, a younger teammate.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I don't, I don't. I don't see the connection here.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
I do I he's the Draymond's Draymond would be the
face of the Warriors culture in a good or negative way,
and I think that Eudonna's Haslam is the face of
Heat culture. I don't. I think that there's they're much
more comparable than than what you than what you see,
And I feel I'm not saying Edonna's Haslam should take
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all the blame. I'm more putting the blame on what
is heat culture, and and the blame ultimately goes on
Bam at a bio. But I think it's a bigger
picture with heat culture, and therefore I think that Eudonis
Haslam is a part of that.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Draymond Green is saying that this was Eudonnas Haslam's you know, teammates,
that he should have whatever taken care of them better.
I just can I can see Draymond Green if somebody
said to him or someone said, well, Steve Kerr should
have taught you better, he would have. I can see
Draymond Green saying, like, I'm a girl and ass man,
I make my own decision. Steve Carr has nothing to
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do with what I do. But now here he's saying
that Eudonnas Haslam does have something to do with the
raising of these NBA players inside heat culture.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Like I just I have a I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
He just wants if you Donnas Haslam had something to
say about Draymond, which Draymond obviously remembers what happened with
the Warriors. This is the comeback to that. You had
something to say about us. Now let's hear what you
have to say about Yeah, just happening in your own backyard.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Yeah, I had something to say about you punching someone.
Now you want to bring me in on a situation
that I wasn't even a part of.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Well, I think I in an indirect way, I think
he's a part of it because I think it's heat
culture and how absurd that is. This was this was
bought it by some heat culture and that's ultimately what
this I think is all about. You may not think
it has anything to do with heat culture, and I
think it has everything to do with heat culture. You're
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I'm going to be the British reporter and put words
in your mouth, but I think you're just like Bam
got ticked, realized that now he's not on my team.
Now I can finally do something. I wish you would.
That's what Bam had been waiting for since the trade happened.
I wish you would, Tyler Herroll. I wish you would
say something. And something was said and it gave him
the excuse.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
I feel like Draymond Green should have came after, should
have come after Bam out of Bio if he had
comment like, you should be critiquing Bam out of Bio
for what he did, not pulling this guy because you're
mad that he called you out.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I find it that Draymond probably had respect for you,
Donnis Haslam and then was surprised that he got called
out by Eudonis Haslam.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Everyone I know.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
But I also don't think that Draymond thinks that BAM's
probably on his level.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Oh right, well he doesn't. He doesn't. He probably thinks
Bam is below him, beneath him.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
And in a weird way, I think that he feels
that Eudonis Hashm is on his level, and.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Then eudonnas has Them is like, are you kidding me?
You're beneath me.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Sure. A lot of dynamics, a lot of dynamics within it.
But the only thing that Draymond did wrong was that
he spoke too soon. He didn't say anything wrong, He
just spoke to me, all right, she's Monty Blagos. I'm
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Speaker 4 (42:18):
Game's over.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
The Raiders have walked off the Astros on a sharp
ground ball single up the middle by Brendon Limo.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Yeah that's right. Final score was six to five. This
was on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Since you know, baseball took a break raised one Sunday night,
Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
When was the break? What days? Today?
Speaker 3 (42:38):
They just didn't play Sunday night base.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
They didn't play Sunday Night Baseball. That's what it was.
It was like as a break of the All Star Game.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
And what I love about Rangers Astros is they play
for a trophy. They play for the Silver Boot. Yes,
and I think that more. I think this should be something.
This seems like a very college thing to do.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
Isaac looked at me like you're crazy too, So we
both didn't know about this.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Is this every year? Is this every series? Is this?
Do they fill it up with beer after? Tell me
all the details?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yes? So they this started years back when inter league
play started because they were obviously natural rivals, one of
the nl N and one of the AL. But it
has continued through I believe when the Astros ended up
moving to the American League. They're calling it the the
Lone Star Series, the Silver Boot Series, and the winner
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of the series wins the Silver Boot. Yes, this is
this is a Usually we have stuff like this in
a in college sports. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that is
uh that's not the case.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
But it's it's only I do like this. Why why
don't like so?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
So like the Dodgers and Angels in the Freeway Series,
should play for a piece of blacktop is what a
piece of concrete pavement and then whoever wins the season
series gets to hold that movable trophy just like you would.
I was got what five of them? I was sa
so many? How about like a pothole, just like you know,
it's just cement with a depression.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
About some ozembic are that the needles needles?
Speaker 6 (44:20):
I would play for the silver homely shed in the
backyard of a girlfriend's house.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
They play for that too. I just I thought it
was I I believe that they still they still do this,
so it's my understanding.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
I really hope they do. That's awesome. I did not
know that.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Well, here's a picture of the boot on it. There's
the silver boot that you can so that's so good.
They obviously put the logos on there. But I think
that it's great. Rivalry wise in sports, the Steelers have
many rivals. They do. They do Ravens at one point
is the best rivalry in the NFL. I think if
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at rivalries with the Raiders from back in the day.
The Pittsburgh Steelers are in the news, but not for
rivalry reasons. Dallas seemed to get so much more of
the of the love from the World Cup, and maybe
it was because of the likes of Earling Holland, but
Dallas was a hot spot. It was the most popular
spot as well.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
And the food.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
It wasn't just early in Holland, but I feel like
the food was a big part of the attention early
on when the World Cup started.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
I need to see this raccoon. It's a stuffed animal.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Sorry, I was gonna say ranch barbecue and taxidermy. That's
what I want to know.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Is it a a raccoon that was alive at one
point and they stuffed it and he was.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Walking around.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
One the one that always used to go through my
garbage cans in my backyard has been missing for the
last several days.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
You don't like taxidermy, You're not you're not down with
stuffing the animal.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
No, I'm good. I'm not down for that.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
It's such a normal part of my life growing up
that if you didn't have a deer head in your eye,
now we didn't like if you shot a buck or
whatever like.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
That to me is a little bit more normal.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
But when it's like not something you've hunted that you're
put like some people want to do this with like
their pets when they pass Like.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
I just don't get that. I don't get that at all.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
I don't have stuff foxing your living room, Monty, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
I you know, Dexter's not still around, you know, in
my room.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Definitely not this raccoon. No, guys, I can't with this picture.
I that Okay.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Well, Texas is known for rodeos and there's one last
rodeo going on in the National Football What aeg By
the way, Aaron Rodgers is saying goodbye to the NFL.
Something that he let it be known when he signed
back with the Steelers and was asked not not straight
off of a press conference, but basically it was I
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don't want to say it was a throwaway question, but
it wasn't. But he confirmed that, yeah, this was going
to be his last season. He's also made a caption
on Instagram showing himself Michael Pittman, Junior, Roman Wilson, Mason Rudolph,
DK Metcalf, Pat Fryarmouth calling this the last rodeo and
(47:14):
using the hashtag Bonding week. And I know this is
going to surprise you because I've been anti Aaron Rodgers
because it sometimes just I think he's absurd. I understand
this portion of it. We may want Aaron Rodgers to
win another Super Bowl, but Aaron Rodgers understands that this
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is it, that they're probably not going to win a
super Bowl. They may try and something maybe magical happening,
but the reason he is coming back isn't to try
to win a Super Bowl and it isn't for the
seventeen games that they're going to play. I think he
revels in this stuff. This is stuff that I heard
that he would do with his teammates in Green Bay
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even when he was a rookie. A lot of the
younger guys would get together that this is why Aaron
Rodgers comes back. And I can't hate on that. I
can't hate on I don't think it's going to be
a farewell tour. You don't play in every NFL stadium.
Half your games are at home anyway in the National
Football League, so you maybe going to eight or nine
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different spots. Three of those are in a division you've
only been in for about a year, so there's not
a lot of connection to it. It's different if Aaron
Rodgers and the Steelers are going to Green Bay and
even going to Chicago or Minnesota or Detroit, places where
he played a lot in his career when he was
a member of the Packers. But it's not about that.
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I think it's truly about stuff like this, and I
can't hate on it. I find football of when I
was young, I loved every sport Manzie, and the most
shocking sport that I realized that I hated to play
was football. The practice is the Oklahoma now. The drills
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that we would have a long time ago were a
lot different than nowadays. But I said, you had to
love football, You really had to love football. It made
you a special sort of person. And I think Aaron
Rodgers loves football. And I think Aaron Rodgers loves his
guys in those guys and he loves doing stuff like that,
and I can't hate on that.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
He loves the brotherhood, love football right like. It's not
just what's going on on the field, it's everything that
leads up to preparing for the battle that is each week.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
And I also think that I think for a minute
Aaron Rodgers was probably considering it, calling it a career.
And I think the Steelers were just kind of like
you could actually help us this year, just get us
to the next year. Like I think you you already,
you're very familiar with what's happening, a new coach that
you like, Like, you can actually help us just get
(49:50):
through this in a division that has a lot of
question marks, a division that's no longer the division that it.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Used to be, a division that you won. Yes, gosh,
cheer like you did what you were supposed to do.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
So I feel like there was a moment where maybe
he was going to walk away from the game and
to agree with you and to add that I think
you're right. It was a little bit of like, hey,
you can help us out. Who doesn't want to be wanted?
Everybody wants to be wanted, and the brotherhood of it,
it's like letting go of that. It's not even letting
go of the game itself, because I think he knows
he's aging out of the game, but the brotherhood of
(50:20):
it that's.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
Not going anywhere. But once he officially retires, that's going
to be gone.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Yeah. Aaron Rodgers, Jason Stewart, you've been a fan of his,
even at interactions with Aaron Rodgers, I believe so are
you good with last Rodeo?
Speaker 6 (50:37):
What I liked about is your point is that I
think that Aaron Rodgers appreciates the process too.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Right.
Speaker 6 (50:44):
You and I both read Slash listen to the book
that was written about him, and one thing that's pretty
clear is that he's really into the process. He's into
the math, he's in the prep, the training, like he
embraces this stuff and is a part of that is
his wide receiving crew and his offensive line. And I
think this the picture that kind of stuck out to
(51:07):
me was like he's acknowledging this as his final year,
and it's almost like a litmus test to see, now,
how is the NFL going to react to this is
a This is a guy that's going to walk in
and put on a yellow jacket. But there's so much
like strangeness and controversy that comes with this guy. I
wonder if if the sendoff is going to be a celebratory,
(51:29):
and how it's covered, how the other teams react to him.
But I think that when I saw this picture, that
was the first thing that came to my mind. It's
almost like Aaron Rodgers saying, all right, this is the
beginning of the end. How are you guys going to
react to this?
Speaker 3 (51:44):
I think that it's funny because I almost look at
it from the perspective of a DK Metcalf or a
Pat Fryarmuth or a Mason Rudolph, because it's also about
those guys, because in that book we saw how Aaron
Rodgers is finicky with friends, and I'll well, you gonna
be a very close friend, and then pretty soon you
could be on the outside. I don't think any of
(52:05):
these guys are looking to be best friends with Aaron Rodgers,
but I do think it's a unique experience to have
a week with one of the greatest players to ever
play the position and some who actually think play the
position at its best in the history of the game,
and to be able to have that week. And that
goes along with the Rogers mindset of the team and
the players, what he does off the field, who he
(52:27):
boxes out, who he freezes out, the different story, whether
it be family, whether it be whether it be friends.
For at least those guys that are involved in this,
I think it's pretty cool for them. And again, I
think it's easy to pile on Aaron Rodgers for sure,
and I think sometimes he lends he wants people to
pile on. He wants to be different in that sense.
(52:48):
But I think there's something real and organic with what
this is and him coming back again isn't to get
that farewell when they leave Baltimore or from the Steelers fans.
It's honestly to hang out with his boys for a reason.
He could do this next year, but he's not playing.
It's not the same thing like this is for a reason,
and and I kind of like it.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
Yeah, I feel like it shows that even though, like
you said, it's low hanging fruit to hate on Aaron
Rodgers because he's so he does some things that are questionable,
He sayes some things, he has like an attitude all
of that. But to see him do this, I feel
like it just shows he knows the responsibility that he
has on his shoulders.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
To do it the right way. On his final rodeo,
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