July 14, 2026 • 54 mins
On this edition of the Best of Stugotz and Company LIVE!: Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos filling in for Stu and the guys as they discuss the drama of the HomeRun Derby and how Phillies fans added to the night. Dan and Monse feature a recent viral tweet by Jason Stewart. Dan and Monse discuss the careers of Mike Trout and Bryce Harper.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
All Right, the World Cup semi final is here. We'll
keep you updated throughout the afternoon. Monzi France in Spain,
the Collision Course hit in Dallas. I'm excited for this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I'm very excited for this afternoon. I've told you I've
been so into this World Cup and I don't.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Think I can do it full time because I stress
out and I don't even care who wins, will choke.
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We'll tell you who the real winners of this World
Cup will be in about twenty minutes or so. But
there was a winner last night at the home run
derby in Philadelphia. And listen to the crowd not cheer.
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That was courtesy of Netflix last night. Isaac Glow, a crowd,
Jason Stewart, Iowa, Sam are here. That is what made
last night so awesome, Manci Belanios, is the fact that
the Philadelphia fans did what they are known to do,
and that's cheer against the opponent, and so when Jordan
Walker beat their own Kyle Schwarber last night, there was
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no reason to celebrate.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
It was really fun to watch and witness it go
down the way it did. I was at the stadium
working late, so I didn't get to watch it live,
and I was kind of keeping track, and so when
I went back to watch it, it was still as
awesome as everybody made it seem. Everybody was so into it,
you know, and I was like, man, I'm missing now.
When I went back, I still even though I knew one,
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I was like, this is actually pretty awesome. And the
Philly fan base where the big reason. I think it
was a huge success.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It was from the get go, and I don't think
that they're the only ones, but I think they need
to take most of the most of the kudos in
all of this, because I think Manti even started at
the introductions. Now, there was about an hour pregame show
and then things kind of started at about eight o'clock
Eastern time, and they had a ring where the players
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the home run derby entrance would go into. I'm guessing
Jason Stewart Rocky theme again, the fake boxer. The Philadelphia
loves to embrace in Rocky, so they had a ring.
So Ben Rerice walks out, for example, and just gets booed. Yep,
he's a Yankee. But when Bryce Harper, who was the
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last one to be announced, and Kyle Schwarber was also
a part of that as a member of the Phillies,
Bryce Harper walks in, goes to the turnbuckle and stands
up and tries to get the crowd on their feet.
And from that point I felt it was just going
to be a different night. Whether it was timed home runs,
whether it was how many swings, whether it was the
Magenta ball, or whatever the case was. Bryce Harper was
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someone who was embracing the moment, and the Philadelphia fans
seemed to respond to it. And on days like this,
and I say this in our realm, when the All
Star Game is happening and there aren't other events going on,
the NBA offseason is pretty much wrapped up. Sands a
couple of big decisions by the NBA and from Lebron James,
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there usually becomes a conversation of what do you do
to fix the major League Baseball All Star Game or
what do you do to fix the home run Derby?
And I think that we found out the biggest solution
when it comes to home run derby. Just get guys
from the hometown team to participate. That's as simple as that,
and then you got the home team on your side.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
There is something exciting about that.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I was lucky enough to go to the home run
Derby when it was here in LA in twenty twenty two,
and Mookie Betts, who is not a big hitter, was
the representative for the Dodgers, and it does make it
a little bit better. But I will tell you, Dan,
I wonder if this Philly fan base is actually the
exception to the rule. I don't know, if we go
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to another stadium and put someone that is one of
the home one of the.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Home stars, if the reaction is like the reaction.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I heard last night on Netflix, Like I don't know
the extreme of what stream.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Of what they were.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
The fandom was in full force, like you said, from
beginning in the introductions to the very end, and it
was almost a scripted fairy tale, and almost for Kyle Schwarber,
who's having a great year, has had several great years
as a in Philadelphia. I was gonna say, as a
Philly fanatic, but that's all right, that's their mascot. But
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he has had so many great seasons that like, it
is awesome to see it, and it almost seems scripted,
like there's no way even the magenta ball, the first
one to hit the magenta ball, like everything seemed to
be going Schwarber's way.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You're saying that the fan base of say Kansas City,
if they had, you know, their their own or Detroit
or Milwaukee or whoever Jackson Churio's in Milwaukee, you don't
think the Brewers fan base would turn on the rest
of the competition. So Jackson Churio could win. Only the
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Phillies fans are the ones that are able to do it.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I don't know if other fan bases can do it
the way Philadelphia just did it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I'm not saying they're not booing. It was just very
clear that you were not welcome there. If you were
not Bryce Harper or Cokl Schwarber.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
You were not welcome there. It was so clear, and
it made it awesome. It made it awesome.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I really don't know if any if any other stadium
can do that.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I thought, I thought it's funny when you texted me
last week about the Price Is Right, and now the
woman won with twenty cents on the wheel rigged. My
wife is always saying, like, you you need to go
on this game show, and she knows how much I
love The Price Is Right. And I'm like, I'm never
going to go on The Prices Right because I don't
want to have my experience ruin the forty five years
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that I've watched The Prices Right. I don't want me
messing up on contestants row or me messing up in
some sort of way to ruin what the experience would be.
I get the wrong number. Yeah, now I'm like, oh, geez,
I didn't win on one away. You know crazy sound effects? Lady?
Do I have four numbers right? And I don't and
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I changed the wrong ones. I also thought about this today.
You know how there are fan favorites on the Prices Right.
It's usually like an old Lady okay, And I feel
like the crowd, as much as they want to cheer
for the other two contestants, are really cheering for the
old lady, and I would hate for the crowd to
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be against me if I'm spinning the big wheel. And
I felt that is probably how Jordan Walker felt last night.
It's probably how Wilson Contreras felt last night. Like Jordan
Walker won, so he has the last laugh. And granted
it was his family, about five or six of them
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against the whole entire stadium. Like Wilson Contreras had his
brother on the other side, and it's his brother's on
the national league team, so it's like he's going up
against Kyle Swarbert. Wilson Contreras had nobody on his side,
no one, not a zilch except his brother who was
with the teammates from the other team. And I'm like,
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is that a great I didn't think that Wilson Contreras
loved being there. Seem like it yeah, And it was like,
here's my all star opportunity I've sacrificed. Now these fans
don't want me there. That would be the flip side
of this argument of being like, oh my goodness, I'm
not being loved, which is like going to the price
is right and having the whole crowdchhare against me because
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an eighty year old woman is about to spin the
wheel and beat me. To go to the showcase showdown, Like,
I think those are the the even things where I'm like,
I don't want it ruined. Was Wilson Contrera's is not ruined?
Was Jordan Walker's not going to be ruined if he
didn't win. I wondered about those emotions as well.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
But you're right, But I feel like for Contrera's, I mean,
I think Jordan Walker, by the end of it, looked
like he thought it was funny.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
By the end of it, you know he's in it,
He's like, what else am I gonna do? You're getting booed,
like there's nothing you could do. He can't hear his
four or five family members that are cheering, he can't
hear them at all.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
But I think it he must have looked at it like,
it's not it's not that necessarily, like it's anybody who's
not in Philadelphia. It's anyone who's not wearing this uniform.
It's not you, Jordan Walker, it's not you Contreras. It's
not you, well, maybe you Ben Rice because you're a Yankee,
but everyone else's like, it's just you're not wearing the
right uniform. And so I feel like you couldn't have
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taken it personal. You on the price is right because
the old lady you could take it personal because as
the old ladies just no, it's you dance standing next with.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Like no, one thousand fan favorites everywhere. There are fan
favorites everywhere one.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I look at, there are certain I've been able to
attend a few home run derbyes as well. I was
there the night that Josh Hamilton didn't win a Yankee
Stadium Oh no, and he had like thirty home runs
in the first round and was so tired that Justin
Morneau ended up winning the derby. Because of the way
that the format was. That was a reason why you
like you also like underwent some changes because Josh Hamilton
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was the story that night and all the home runs
that he hit, And at that point, the entire Yankee
Stadium crowd is just rallied behind Texas ranger Josh Hamilton.
But that doesn't happen every single time. You want to
know what the other moment of home run derby that
I remember, Todd Fraser, Cincinnati twenty fifteen. When I look
at Todd Fraser, the entire adjacent Stewart and your baseball historian.
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I don't know if you remember that night, but all
of Cincinnati was behind Todd Fraser and it became like
the Todd Fraser Weekend. And I felt last night was
the closest to that that I had experienced in an
All Star game. And it tells me if there are
two events that are giving me the same sort of
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feels and the same reason is the same reason is
happening on why I'm getting those feels, then that's something
major League Baseball has to check into it now should
be a responsibility. If you're hosting the home run Derby,
you have to have at least a player or two
in the derby. I don't care if Shoeo Tani doesn't
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want to ruin his swing and it would come back
to Dodger Stadium, that's fine. Make Mookie Bets and Maxis
Munty do it again or whoever. But like that is
what we have found as gold because you do have
a fan base. Now they may not boo the opponent,
but they're certainly going to get behind.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
One of their own, right right. I was, so I'm
mixed up my ears. There was no Dodger in the
home run derby in twenty twenty two. Moki Bets did
the next year okay, and so I got confused. I was,
but I remember the time we were upset that there
wasn't a Dodger. Corey Seger did it not as a Dodger,
And I feel like everyone went behind Corey Seger a
little bit in LA because he was the closest thing.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
But it's still it doesn't hit like I'm telling you.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Maybe maybe Yankee Stadium with Aaron Judge for a home
run derby, maybe they can get the way we just
saw it happen in phil ad All.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I think I Bed Rice, if this was at Yankee Stadium, Ben,
they may not have booed.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
That's what That's what That's what was impressive though.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It was the constant booing, The booing when you did
hit a home run.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
What have you ever heard that? The booing when you
did hit a home run.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It sounded like a library don some of those home
runs that were hit, I.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Could see people not booing and not cheering, which is
I think more of what would happen if Ben Rice
a Yankee Stadium is having a good home run derby.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Maybe there's no cheering for.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
The other players, but there's no booing the way we
heard it last night like it was.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
It made it made a great show. And I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Not only should you have a person representing your team
at home and a home run derby, but if you
have a a Bryce Harper who has won in the
past because of his personality can be there, that's who
you got to get. Also, you know what I'm saying,
like a Kiky Hernandez if we're talking about the Dodgers,
like who's your hype guy, who's the hype guy for
your fans, for the TV, for the cameras, you gotta
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find that.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Like Bryce Harper allowed the moment at the beginning when
he went on the turnbuckle, and it was exciting, it
was great, but ultimately it's Swarber who then ends up
competing and the fans still get behind him. So I
and I'm not saying throw nobody's up there, but like,
if you're all Star caliber at least in that in
that realm and you're hosting, you need that. I will listen.
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We've tried to change formats in different stuff, hmm. And
I'm not saying that another format change needs to be made.
But to figure out a way to allow the crowd
to get into it in a way where they have
a rooting interest instead of just watching home run after
home run is something that I think Major League Baseball
needs to look into. Jason Stewart, you took in parts
of the OLM run derby last night.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
And I think that the dynamic that plays out here.
Think about it. What do we hate most about Philly
fans is what we loved most about the event last night.
I think Philly fans are the only ones obnoxious enough
and arrogant enough to not cheer someone else's success and
to boo other people's success. New York has a little
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bit of that, but I think the cities that you
named and Todd Frazier, Cincinnati, and you mentioned Kansas City,
Midwest nice people. They really want their guy to win,
but they're going to also cheer everybody because you know,
that's just kind of a Midwest sentimentality. I think Philadelphia
is a unique venue and that's what made it the best,
and it also I think showed you just how much
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brass gumption Jordan Walker has. Imagine the just the amount
of pressure last night and how calm and collected. He
was that showed me something. And I know that the
rule is, don't tell me about your fantasy team. Nobody cares.
I do want to. I want to tell a little story, Dan,
because you'll appreciate this. I'm the guy that was in
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early on Jordan Walker on my fantasy team. I had
him during the early years when he was the prospect
that was supposed to be the big thing, and this
was the one year I didn't grab him. So somebody
else's enjoying the fruits of me taking their guy. Yes, yes,
So I have a personal grudge against Jordan Walker, so
I wasn't necessarily rooting for him, But watching him last night,
you cannot be anything but impressed by the way he
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delivered against Schwarber, against that crowd.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That was amazing. It was, and Walker, I think was
fueled by the booze.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
And then there was a point too that I wondered,
I'm like Kyle Schwarber. They kept on panning over to him,
and you could tell it meant something to me, And
I felt like Jordan Walker had a tough time looking
Schwarber in the eye because he knew that he just
took away that moment, but also as a competitor, you
have to love it to shove it in the fans
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of forty thousand and I agree with you what you're saying, Jason,
And it's to the point that Manzi's saying is there
is just that Philly fan base that these other places
can't do it. However, what made half of last night
great was them cheering for schwarbur And that's what I
think you got in Cincinnati in twenty fifteen, where I
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just remember the site and how it just became Todd
Frazier's weekend and how great the home run derby. I
don't remember other home run derbys since then that happened
with those moments, even the ones that I've attended. I
was at the one the next year in San Diego.
I don't even know what happened. I forgot what happened
at that point. It's just the excitement of how the
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crowd gets into it. The Midwest nice sort of thing.
I also think is a part of all the ballparks,
as everybody's there and they want to see home runs.
But if you actually have a rooting interest in you
who are rooting for something in that event, it can
only make it better. And that's in a year where
Jeff Passon said beforehand, I think these new rules are
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gonna stink. I don't know if he said it because
he was on Netflix and not on ESPN, but then
he said, Passon's an idiot when he ended up tweeting
it after the event and how great it was. We
can try all these things, but you need the fans
to be involved, and you know what, you need your
star players to be involved. Bryce Harper really had no
reason to compete, none whatsoever, but he did it because
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it was Philadelphia and it was in his own ballpark
and the ovation and what he got in coming out.
That should be a message to other players when the
All Star Game, hopefully we have one next season, but
even in future years, like there's you got to get
these players out there. It just can't be like, hey,
let's get some of the young stars out there because
none of the Vets want to do it. It's more
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of an event and if you can have those sort
of nights, even better.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Okay, so here's wrap it up. I feel like if
we would have had Aaron.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Judge yesterday participating and he hits a bomb of a
home run. I feel like the booze would have gone
higher in Philadelphia. Right if we're in La, if we're
at Dodger Stadium home run derby and it is Max
Munsey or let's just say show Heyo TONI show Hey
O Tani and Aaron Judge, and Aaron Judge hits a
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bomb of a home run, there would be people clapping.
There will not be the booze because especially I think
coming to an All Star game, you want to see
all the stars. Like, yes, obviously you may have a
rooting interest, but the cool thing about this is you
could see all these stars and I don't see any
other stadium going extra hard or show Heyo Tani hitting
a home run in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
The booze would have gone harder.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I feel like you put show Hey O Tani and
Aaron Judge in other stadiums, away stadiums on you know,
enemy territory, and they hit a home run, people will
stand up and do a slow clap for them.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
They will not overcheer. But Philadelphia is I'm gonna boot harder.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yes, I agree with that. What's more realistic though, Aaron
Judge competing in a home run derby again, or maybe
having someone of like a hometown team being able to compete.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I was just using them as an example. But you're right,
he's not. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I just feel like everywhere else you would see the
baseball just the baseball fan appreciate a great do something.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I think so. I also think that it shows the
responsibility though of players who are and are competing. Not
judge obviously injured.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
But but he's already won. He did it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yes, he's did it in one check he has, he
has done it. But Bryce Harper being able to do
it next year it's at Wrigley Field in Chicago. If
there is an All Star Game next season, yeah, maybe
some peak Crow.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Armstrong, it's got to be him.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
That's a perfect example, Dan, that's a great example. Sorry
to cut you off, but that I think that the
Cubs fans are going to come out and they want
their Armstrong. And he's a bit of a personality and
he's an obnoxious kind of kid that you can get behind.
But the I think that the Wrigley Field fans are
not going to turn on Crow Armstrong's opponent right like
Philly fans would. But they're geting to cheer the hell
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out of Crow Armstrong. That's a great example.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, and I'm not saying that they would either. But
what I'm saying is, if you don't have anybody from
the hometown team, no one's gonna care for sure. And
so in twenty fifteen when it was Todd Frasier in Cincinnati,
it was magnificent because how they all rallied around him.
The Philly fans last night were great for two reasons.
They were great number one because they were cheering so
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hard for Schwarber, and number two, they were cheering so
hard for him that they rooted against his opponent. And
so what you guys said at the beginning, yeah, there's
other markets aren't going to do that. However, other markets
can easily all twenty nine. Other teams can easily cheer
for their own players. And so when you have the
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responsibility of hosting an All Star Game, I would hope
the cities and the teams that have and in the
future and their star players take the responsibility on like
Kyle Schwarber and Bryce Harper did last night, because that's
the real recipe to success. Just ask the dunk contest, right, yes, right,
I mean it's the Dunk Contest is a one hundred
times worse. We have players that aren't even in the
league that we need to compete in the Dunk Contest
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to make it interesting and to get a fan base
behind like they did last night. It's truly unique.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You're right, it was a lot of things that just
went perfectly last night for this for how fun it
was to watch, I will say I think I missed
a timer.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I felt like there was no sense of urgency. But
I don't know if that was just me because I
watched it after the fact, but I thought.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
There was no sense of urgency from these guys. Well, yeah,
you have an amount of swings, not a timer, and
I kind of missed the timer.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I didn't even care. No, just yeah, as long as
the brewing and stuff happen, because I think we can
always tweak. Like I don't care how they win. The
night's long anyway. It's like when you end up attending
those events, it's neat to see the home runs at first.
But yeah, I think you can do all the things
that you need to do, but if you can get
the fans involved, that's all you need.
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Speaker 7 (21:17):
Rory McElroy was asked the following question today at a
pre tournament news conference.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Listen, Rory, how concerned are you with your legacy past
when you'll be on this earth? How considered you with
how you'll be viewed in one hundred years? Do you
think about that kind of thing? Does it matter to
you since you won't be here? I mean, what how
does that go?
Speaker 9 (21:35):
You know? I would like to think that the people
that love and care about me think a certain way
of me. But yeah, I'll be I'll be long gone.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
I'll be dead.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I don't think.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
I'll be seeing what people say about me. I'll be
six feet under. I don't think he'll be a ghost.
I don't think he'll be you know, like I am. Yeah,
I don't care.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
On that note, Dan and Matty back to you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Now, do I think we're going to be talking about
Tiger Woods one hundred years from now? Yes, I don't
know if we'll be talking about Rory mcclroy, Which is
I think is what the reporter wanted to ask, but
he just asked it in a.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Very very weird way.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Correct, So I'm not mad at how Rory McElroy answered it.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
An hundred years would be done. I don't care. I
don't care. Yeah, the way it was the way it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Was at twenty six Jason Stewart.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Dan, how do how does Rory McElroy fit into the
conversation we just had because he was one of those phenoms.
I remember Sports Illustrated did quite the ride up on
him when he was young, before he hit the circuit.
Has he lived up to the hype now compared to
Tiger Woods, And that's a very unfair comparison. He probably hasn't,
but he has lived up to what was what we
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were told about him.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yes, I also think that it's a I think that
things are different in individual sports versus team sports.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
M M.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I think that when it's all about Rory May, I
actually think that there are less places to fail. However,
there are cautionary tales. Michelle Wee someone that we thought
was going to be You know, there are tennis players
Naomi Osaka is talked about some of her mental battles.
You know, some of these players are playing at the
highest level when they're teenagers. So like the Bryce Harper
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thing is, he was put in the spotlight as a teenager,
but wasn't playing a saying an adult sport if you will,
So I think there's some differences there. But I think
that Rory has done a good job and living up
to his expectations the problem that you pose, and I
think it's ultimately fair. There will never be another Tiger Woods,
h for the for the the racial implications, the social implications,
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and just the type of player that he was in
the sport that it was in the sports history, there
will just never be another Tiger Woods. So it will
always be impossible to have anybody compared to what Tiger
went through.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, no, I don't know if we're ever going to
see at Tiger Woods anywhere any sport, you know what
I'm saying, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I don't think that I don't think that you will
ever again. And it also shows on how much the
world has changed in thirty years or forty years in
considering where there were still changes in the eighties and nineties,
and Tiger's talked about that. I think we're in a
better spot than we are, so I don't think that
those difficulties were there twenty and thirty and forty years ago.
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But that's why no one, just no one can ever
compare to what Jackie Robinson went through, you know. I mean,
it's just it's not going to happen, and there are
some sort of parallels there. Speaking of controversy, Jason Stewart
was the one who made controversy on social media this
weekend in a tweet that I'm seeing has had three
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hundred and twenty two thousand impressions. Jason, this was dropped
down on July tenth. This was Saturday. Great graphic, by
the way, but you've got almost fifteen hundred comments on
your social media post. Can you please explain.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
First and foremost, Isaac, I didn't see you share or
like this this post, so you obviously didn't see it. Moncey,
you didn't share or like it either. I mean it,
I don't think I know Dan saw it because I
brought it to his attention, but he hasn't shared or
liked it. So I'll try not to hold it against
any of you for that. I decided because it's kind
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of one of those times the years middle of summer
let me do a list, a baseball movie list. Baseball
is my sport I think I have. I have a
very good taste in movies, and only the five of
you understand my sense of humor. Most of Twitter doesn't
because a lot of the crap that I got about
this is how how definitive I was in my language.
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This was the caption, I have considerably good taste in movies,
so those there shouldn't be any arguments about this list.
So that's that's the sarcasm, right. So I listed my
movies Bull Durham number one, Major League number two, Field
of Dreams number three, The Natural number four, and Moneyball
number five. And the different ways this was reacted to
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was fascinating because Dan, you've had one of these tweets
all of us have, Like your post creates conversations between
other people and then theirs side conversations, and it just
it just became a life of its own. If you
look at some of the responses here. Richard Roper tops
the list. He was the one that would like fill
in for Ciskel or Ebert when they were out back
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in the nineties.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
He commented on yours.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
He said, all star lineup? Oh really, yeah, and then
he went in and he made a couple of substitutions.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
My favorite is that the people that I know and
a friend of mine was the first comment that pops up.
He said, any list of baseball movies that doesn't have
bad news bears first is not a good list. So
my friend Simon, who you have no idea who he
is living in Iowa, completely completely disregarded your list. This
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is what I love about the fourteen hundred comments plus
on it. Were the people who would say, I'd remove
this and put this one otherwise good list, or the
ones who felt like we needed to know their list.
And I don't know if they felt like it was
an open invitation like here's where everybody puts their top
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five baseball movies of all time. But the different the
different ways people took this tweet and decided to respond.
Some were agreeing with you, but still wanted to disagree
by saying you had one wrong. Others just wanted to
give their own list. Others completely discredited it. It was
It was quite an interesting exercise on the psychology of
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people who love baseball.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
And by the way, the loudest of that group was
sant Sandlot. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I don't know, you don't have sound.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Any list is invalid. In fact, I got I got
some scuds within my own household. My super hot girlfriend
Christina looked at me and she said, hey, you forgot
sand Loot on the list, as if it wasn't me,
You purposefully leaving it off because I think it's not
my top five. She just thought I forgot about it.
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That's how definitive she was, so much so that she
forced me to watch it again on Friday night Saturday night.
And I still hold my opinion that's not in my
top ten.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
And I'll see Richard Roper's comment seems like he's flexing, flexing.
Everybody wants some never heard of it, never heard of
it at all. Do you know, Sam, have you seen
everybody want some? No? I haven't either. Maybe everybody wants
some eight, but not this one. Like there's there's there's
none of that, like there's I've never ever heard of
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that movie before Manzi at all.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
No no idea.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So I think he was trying to flex some of
the movie that nobody ever heard of.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
That was the thing, like something they would start with
a compliment and then they would throw you some information
that made them look smart. That's a very common tactic
on this tweek.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
He did give you two thumbs up in five baseballs, though,
Richard Roper, take those Sandlot more Sandlot and then sir,
I don't even know this is real name. He may
be the only person out there who didn't care for
Bull Durham. Interesting, how did you make the graphics so good?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
I don't think I watched Bull Durham.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I didn't see the natural on you. You haven't watched
Bull Durham.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Oh, please do.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
I don't know if I am.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
I beg you to do it. I want, I want
your review, but I don't know. It's like my entire
fifty three years of watching movies and I have a
favorite movie and there's someone on the show that hasn't
seen it once. You have to watch it, just at
the very least, so I get your review. But Dan,
you bring up a good point. So the graphic that
I made was made AI and that that was a
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separate tangent to this reaction of people call me a
bad guy for wasting the water to do the AI graphic.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I think they think it's more a fa if you
would have just put up this tweet on your own,
I don't think it would have gotten nearly the response
catches the eye, yes, but because it was a graphic,
it makes it seem like this is an authoritative list.
And then you put the the years that were next
to it, which I don't know if that was you
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or AI, and I think that that added it. Eighties
late eighties were quite the uh, quite the time for
baseball movies.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, everybody loves the lists, but you're right, making it
into a graphic is more eye catching. If you would
have just written it out, people probably would have just
scrolled right by it, like without even paying attention. They
were just scrolled right. In fact, that probably would have
liked it without really knowing what it was, just been like, oh, like.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Jason Stewart whatever. And I did not see this though
I did not see this tweet.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Yeah, I noticed.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I noticed.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
You didn't say it, you didn't like or share it.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
I just liked it. I'm gonna comment, by.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
The way, the by the way that Bull Durham. The
most commented criticism of Bull Durham is that it's a
chick flick, So, if anything, you should watch it because
you're a chick Manci because there's a great love story,
great writing, and baseball is about.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
As a background, is it, Kevin Costner, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
I'm looking forward to you saying that. I would love
to say it for the first time.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
A young Glenn Powell start in Everybody Wants Something twenty sixteen.
You look that up as well, Sam, I was looking
at it. I've never heard of this movie. Yeah, I
came out in twenty sixteen. I was just going to
be seven percent on Rotten Tokay, Well, he is a roper,
is a movie guy, so maybe that's a hidden gem
we're missing out on. But Jason, so The Sandlot came
out when you were seventeen, so this was thirty three
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years ago.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I'm a little older than the crew there.
Speaker 11 (31:34):
So you're reasoning for it watching, Yeah, your reasoning was
like this was more for like ten to twelve year
old kids, like younger kids, because it's.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
About kids that age.
Speaker 11 (31:42):
I think I missed it and maybe you were just
a little too old for it to really ring you
in and rain you in with the magic and because
like when I saw it, I was I was seven
years old. Oh your wheelhouse, yeah, oh yeah, and then
all the stuff with like getting the ball back from
the dog and all the contraptions they make to try
to get the ball back, and just like it's a
fourth it's sort of a Fourth of July movie.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
It's a summer movie. Like there's a lot of reasons
I like the Sandlot and Sandlot with this generation now
making a lot of waves on social media, Yes, coming
back that way as well. What's the you've seen Sandlot? Yes, okay,
but you haven't seen Everybody Want Some? And you haven't
seen Bull Durham. What are you most likely to watch
this week? Bull Durham? Or Everybody Wants Some?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Boul Duram. Okay, there, everybody Wants Some? Is this a
baseball movie?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah? This is the one though with Glenn Powell College
freshman which basement. Yes, an unruly group of disco dancing,
skirt chasing partiers as they navigate there through the freedom
and responsibilities of unsupervised adulthood.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
There it is twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah, Jason Stewart got everybody on their toes this past weekend.
I love it when friends of mine are responding and
they don't necessarily know the connection. Maybe I'll give you
Simon's number and you guys can go ahead to head
about bad news bearers.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Oh good, just give it out right now.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
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Speaker 3 (33:14):
We're talking all stars, that we're talking superstars here on
Stu Gotson Company Live. We're also at the half of
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in that match, we will let you know. Isaac Lowinkron
is at the news desk. Jason Stewart is our executive producer,
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Speaker 5 (33:33):
And Mansei dying over here.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
The Stars come out tonight. The Stars come out tonight
in Philadelphia, the National League taking on the American League
in the All Star Game. There is no show Heyo Tani,
there is no Aaron judge. But there are two players
that we focus on, and one we talked a little
bit about earlier in the show. That was Bryce Harper,
who I felt took the home run derby last night
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to another level just by his introduction. He didn't last
past the opening round of the event, but to have
Bryce Harper at you know, in his mid thirties competing
in this event in the home in front of the
hometown fans. I thought was very good for baseball and
I hope other players, especially those that have their teams
since cities hosting All Star Games in the future, will
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remember what Bryce Harper did and trying to elevate that
event last night, which I think was elevated, and Kyle
Schwarber making it to the finals elevated that event. I
think that Bryce Harper deserves kudos for that. Bryce Harper
also a legends, the legend in the game. We've had
legends picks in the games before. He'll be a member
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of the All Star team tonight, but so will Mike Trout.
And Mike Trout was peppered with questions yesterday about his
ties to Philadelphia and the possibility of maybe him being
dealt by the Angels, something that team has not wanted
to do, not wanted to let him go. But Mike
Trout is seemingly said all of the right things. But
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I'll also said that ultimately it's his decision. I'm not
sure if that's necessarily true. But here we are at
this All Star break where Mike Trout is getting the
love that he needs and maybe the love that he deserves.
From the Philly fans and those in Major League Baseball
playing for a team that once again is nowhere near
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contention in the American League.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, I look at Mike Trout and I wonder did
he miss a different opportunity? Did he miss the chance
to actually do something with his career because being an
Angel has done nothing for him, nothing, nothing, nothing. And
I always like to look at Mike Trout and where
we if fifty years from now, how we're going to
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look at Mike Trout because I feel like Mike Trout
and Bryce Harper were trying to They were kind of
the faces of baseball, or at least they were trying
to be as in the league trying to push them,
and for various reasons, they didn't.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
They didn't make it.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Mike Trout didn't make it because of the organization I
think holding him back when he was a three time
MVP for like years. Mike Trout was the best player
and there was no question about it. Bryce Harper was
a star early on and delivered by by being by
having the it factor. He has the it factor. Bryce
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Harper has the it factor, but it didn't He didn't
hit the way we see now with like Shoeo Tani
and Aaron Judge being the faces.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I look at Bryce Harper and like Mike Trout and
Bryce Harper like the dream scenario of them finally playing together.
Even when Harper came over from the Nationals and signed
this free agent deal with the Phillies, then there was talko,
how about YouTube teaming up? And this is you know what,
seven years ago that hasn't come to fruition, but there's
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still there's still the whole. But now you're in this
scenario where these worlds collide in Philadelphia and you're saying, Okay,
now could be the time. Because it's also of how
long does Bryce Harper have left to play in Major
League Baseball? And you say that Bryce Harper maybe hasn't
risen to the level of face of the game.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
And yeah, I think it's a little short of maybe
what they hoped.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I think that I think that it's difficult to do
it when you're a Washington National. Sure, I think that
sho Hey Otani is just impossible to compare yourself to,
and Aaron Judge, being the Yankee being who he is,
is also tough to compete with. There was a time
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before Otani became Otani and Judge became Judge that major
League Baseball was looking for a face, and I think
that Bryce Harper may not have been the face to
the level of what Shohy and Aaron Judge were, but
was one of those faces. And well, you may not
think that Bryce Harper reached the level of what we
see now in Major League Baseball, and that's fine that
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you're a pinion. I think that Bryce Harper is in
a mode that Mike Trout is, and Mike Trout's been
great from the get go, but Bryce Harper has had
to deal with trying to be the next mega superstar
in his sport and is one of those athletes that
maybe you can name on one hand that actually fulfilled
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almost what he was expected to do. When you're on
the cover of Sports Illustrated as a teenager, there's a
lot of responsibility that comes with that. I think that
that Bryce Harper has has fulfilled what we had hoped
he would become. I think Lebron James has the expectations
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on Lebron James, I think that has been fulfilled. Like
in a way you could say Tiger Woods, considering Tiger
was so young and he is, you know, chipping golf
balls on Network TV when he's two and three years old,
doing it on the Tonight Show. To live up to
that and become the player that he had, I would
say Peyton Manning lived up to the expectations that were
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bestowed upon him in becoming the player that he was.
But when you look through out sports and you look
at all the team phenoms, whether it be in high
school football, basketball, the ones that didn't take, I give
Bryce Harper a lot of credit for the success that
he's had and the player that he's become, considering the
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expectations that we had for him when he was a
teenager growing up in Las Vegas. So like I look
at Bryce Harper and some people may maybe you say,
what could have been? You know, in looking last night,
Oh this is how it could have been. And I
look at Bryce Harper and I say, that's a pretty
darn impressive career that not many people can say that
they have in their lives.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I guess the reason I think it felt a little
bit sure, in my opinion, is because baseball was not
thriving when they were trying to push him as the
face and Mike Trout and I think that you see
that now. I feel it's a example of what you
said bringing up even Sho Heo Tani, because Shoeo Tani
with what he did with the Angels, it was he drove,
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you know, twenty five miles down and we're acting like
he's brand new to La and it's a very different
experience him being a Dodger versus Angel. So I thought
that was a perfect example in relation to Bryce Harper
and being a National But then he left and the
Nationals won World Series after he left, and he goes
to Philly, which is a perfect team for him. But
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I feel like even though he had the it factor,
some people didn't like him, and so I think he
was held back.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Whether it was because.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
He was a Philly or it was his own antics,
I don't know what it was, but I feel like
he did not reach what could have been reached, could
have what he could have done, and baseball wasn't thriving
with him and Mike Trowell, And then there was like
pushes of other faces that never like. I feel like
Ronald Acunya Junior was another face that maybe they were
trying to push a couple of years ago, never hit
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some just never hit it and then you see how
it did hit and that's why maybe it's unfair, but
I just don't think Bryce Harper lived up to the
expectation that they I.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Don't think I don't think that Akunya Junior or any
of those other players. And maybe some of it was
brought on by Bryce Harper. Maybe the face paints, you know,
the the image that he portrayed, but he lived up
to it. And I think he's actually been good for baseball.
And I'm not holding the World Series won by the
Nationals against him because I don't think one player is
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the difference in baseball when it comes to the World Series.
And I would say that him leading the Phillies to
a World Series a few years ago or being a
part of that, is comparable to what the Nationals ended
up doing in winning. And now granted that didn't beat
the Astros ended up losing in six games, but he
got them to a World Series, got him to an
NLCS where they lost in seven games. It hasn't been
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failure in that point. The Phillies have been winning. But
I'm not going to say that the Nationals winning the
year after he left was Oh, thank goodness, we got
rid of Bryce Harper, because Bryce Harper then has shown
what he's been able to do, you know, with the Phillies,
and I just Bryce Harper as I just I just
think of the Brian Taylors of the world, of former
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number one picks in Major League Baseball who never lived
up to the expectations. Jason Stewart in our pre show
meeting Sebastian Telfair, I believe, was on the cover of
a Sports Illustrated. There's a lot that comes with that,
and when you're a teenager, I think it's an easy
way to go awry. And Bryce Harper is felt like
he's been on the steady and straight path and didn't
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get caught up into it and is a two time MVP,
has played in World Series, so I would think, like,
I'm not going to hold it against him for maybe
not reaching the highest of the highest and winning a
World Series, because I think he's done about as much
as he can do with someone who had the microscope
on him that very very few players have now. Mike
Trout came into the league as a young player as well.
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His conversation is complete different than Bryce Harper's in terms
of how we look at their their legacy. I just
I just hold Bryce Harper in a special class because
I think he had to endure what a lot of
people didn't endure.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
And that's that's fair. Maybe I guess said, maybe I'm
being harsh.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
I just do feel that base you weren't necessarily turning
on a game to watch Bryce Harper because I feel
like some he rubbed people the wrong way, and so
I just don't know if he brought in as many
eyes as other players did. But we definitely I can
appreciate everything he's done, and I think his his name,
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his legacy may outlast what Mike Trout did, even though.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
Mike Drout has more MVPs. Like it's just we I'm
gonna I'm gonna remember Bryce Harper.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
I hope we've all we don't forget Mike Trout, but
I feel like Mike Trout because of how this is all.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Ending for him, It's gonna be like a footnote.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Trout is a better player. There's no I's argument this
is targeting. Again. Bryce Harper is two MVPs, But I
don't think that you would you could say that Bryce
Harper's was better than Mike Trout's on the individual level.
But it is funny to me on how I do
feel like Bryce Harper and just even look at last night.
Bryce Harper won the home run Derby by the way,
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one of three players with Todd Frazier and Ryan the
late Ryan Samberg who won the home run Derby in
Chicago in nineteen ninety when it wasn't the home run
Derby that we all know and love the three players
to win home run Derbys in their their own ballparks,
but you have when you have Mike Trout and just
the level of success that he has had had early
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in his career. I love looking just at his Baseball
Reference page, Manci to sit there and just look at
all the highlighted this is what he led the league
in like it's it's it's absurd, but it's also been
seven years and at what point does it just become
all right again? All right, here we go again? And
I'm almost like, in a way, it was rejuvenating to
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see Bryce Harper last night. To me, it's a bit
draining to hear about Mike trust trade talk again because
it just isn't it hasn't happened, It isn't happening. Maybe
maybe that a trade that would happen would rejuvenize and
electrify things. But I'm almost just tired of the Mike
Trout trade talk because I just don't think that it's happening.
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And I'm not sure if anybody else who truly cares
about the Mike Trout trade talk outside of Philadelphia right now?
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Also, why now? Why at this point.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
If it hadn't if you know, previous years.
Speaker 5 (45:29):
Look, if I'm Mike Trout at this point, I'm like,
why now?
Speaker 4 (45:32):
At least Angel fans can say I've had Mike Trout
on my team forever, he might as well finish it out.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Like I totally can relate to that, because it's like, guys,
it's not happening. And if he does, why now? Why now?
Speaker 4 (45:46):
I mean, if you're going to join a team to win,
you might as well come to the Dodgers. You might
as well just come down the street. And that's not
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
It's what makes the Eagels look so bad is they
had Otani and Trout and they still can't figure out
a way to win exactly, which tells you which why
you shouldn't hold it against Bryce Harper for not winning
because they had two all time greats on their team
and couldn't win. Jason Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
So I do I fully agree with you that he's
one of the He's one on a short list of
people that came in with so much hype. You were like,
there's no way anyone could live up to this, And
I think he has lived up to it. He's the one.
I think we used to play this game with Gottlieb right,
and you would do these games and you'd be like,
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I think one of the topics once was what's a
person that you would like walk out of the beer
line to make sure you caught it home plater, or
or if he's on TV, you're going to make sure
you watch you about Bryce Harper is on a very
short list of people that qualify for that for me.
So I think he has lived up to the expectation.
And I want to kind of bring Isaac into this.
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Can we also think of those like we have been
in this space for so long and we have seen
people hyped, and the reason why it's like hype is
because we are told by people that cover these people
in youth sports and high school, so we just kind
of have to take your word for it. Sebastian Telfair
was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Do you remember
(47:09):
a guy named Freddie I do? Oh, yes, whatever happened
to Freddy? I do?
Speaker 10 (47:13):
Apparently it was much add to you about nothing.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
I could say, we bit ad We have seen so
many of these though, that we were told Freddie Adu
was going to be the face of American soccer, he
was going to lift the sport, and he disappeared. And
Christian Pulisic, Pulisic, whatever his name is. I thought we
were told a couple of years ago he was the
same guy, and he then I was just told the
other day that he's not even in the same like
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upper couple tiers of soccer. That's a great point. I
don't necessarily blame polistic. I don't necessarily blame.
Speaker 7 (47:44):
Freddy ado for that matter, in a different way, which
we can talk about later. I don't blame Tim Tebow
or Caitlin Clark. I blame what I call the sports
media industrial complex, to be honest with you, and.
Speaker 10 (47:54):
You guys are not a part of it, but others are.
Speaker 6 (47:57):
But Bryce Harper super seded that that James.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Yeah, and there are very few people that have players
and athletes that have been under it from that long
and didn't. This is there. There are guys who were
stars in college that came up and made a name
for themselves, Like you can name a bunch of players.
But to be that young and then to fulfill it
and be like, oh he ended up coming through and
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doing it, I think is special to Bryce Harper. What
I also look at and I use Peyton Manning as
an example, and I know I've said this on this
network a bunch. The thing that surprises me so much
about Peyton Manning's career is how much run the Denver
Broncos get for having him as the quarterback when he
was there four seasons. I mean, think about the time
if you were to rewind Monsei when Peyton Manning was
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dueling Tom Brady in the Patriots as a member of
the Colts, to see Peyton Manning in any other uniform
outside of the blue and white and the horseshoe and
the helmet would be blasphemy. And now because of Manning
going to the two Super Bowls, of having the career
year with Denver, the way things kind of fell out
with the Colts in the neck injury and then being like,
(49:10):
well Andrew Lux the quarterback, we kind of got a
Payton's like, Okay, I'm gonna go play. Like I feel
like in some part that the Colt's tenure is overshadowed.
Peyton Mannix still lives in the Denver area by what
he did in Denver. So to bring up Mike Trout,
I wonder if it's not too late, where if Mike Trout,
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let's say we're to go to the Phillies and somehow
trade in a deal and let's say he played four
more seasons, played into his late thirties, then they won
a World Series. How that would overshadow his complete career
of the Angels. So I still think, while I well,
I find the topic of Trout just sometimes because it's
just been over and over in the same thing and
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the same thing, and this weekend it comes up again
because he's in Philadelphia. I'm not ready to say and
I'm cashing all of my chips, because I do think
if you were to go to a different team, specifically
if it was the Phillies, it could rejuvenate him and
almost take over a part of his career and eclipse
all of the decade plus years that he did with
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the Angels because of what he could do in this
next short window. I would not put them past that.
If he were to go to a contender, I think
that could be possible.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
I could see that, I could see that that's a
really great way to put it.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
I just if we're gonna do it now.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
But it's like you said, it's been years, so I
don't even honestly, the guys.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
I don't know if Mike Trout.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
Cares about winning a World Series. I truly don't know
if he does, because I think if he cared to
win a World Series, he would not stay an Angel.
There's no way you can be part of that organization
for how many years and realize that it's a dumpster
fire and you decided to stay there because why you
like la, you like to be there's things about it right,
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you make your.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
Decisions, And I, honestly, I don't know if he can hairs.
Speaker 6 (51:01):
I think there's a there's there's two things that play here,
and you need to tell me what you believe, because
the narrative is that he is so loyal to the
Angels that he doesn't want to leave. Sure, that's different
than I don't want to win a title. So which
is it? Because staying with the Angels, you're never going
to win a title.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
We all know that, Okay, So let me let me
rephrase it.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Then let's say that I'm that he does it his loyalty.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
He's he's okay with not winning and stain in age,
no doubt, that's let's plate that. Of course he wants
to everybody wants to win. But I'm saying like it
doesn't drive him.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
It's not enough for him to pack up and move
with other situations. I feel like we see it, they
quickly move on. He he has not because he's had
the opportunity.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
He saw sho.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
Hal Toddy literally do this three years ago, like he can.
He could have done it and he wasn't. I just
don't think it drives him.
Speaker 5 (51:53):
I think he's accepted, like, you know, I'm good, I'm good.
You know who's good? Spain's good?
Speaker 3 (51:59):
He did say, yeah, Spain is good. Spain is very good.
They just scored again two nil, Spain on top of
France in the fifty eighth minute.
Speaker 5 (52:11):
It wasn't sure how quickly I could mention it.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
It's very good. I looked up and they were celebrating.
The friends are being fried right now in Dallas. Nice
the spain of that two nil lead. What the fact.
I I think that Trout, if it was Philadelphia, would
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want to ultimately go. But I just don't think that
the Angels are to that point of I just think
that they're fine with whatever is going on because it's
been this status quo. They don't need to make a
big trade that would give them prospects to set up
for the future. And I think that's an indictment. I mean,
you know, they just fired their GM a couple of
(52:54):
weeks ago. So whoever comes in, you know, and now
is running the front office going to go in and
trade Mike Trout, you know, and a month on the
job and there's no real future plan. I think it's
I think it's going to be difficult. But I do
think that if it was the Phillies and it was
that opportunity, he would do so. I don't think he
would just go to any other team and win, So,
in a way kind of splitting the difference of I
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think that he's loyal to a point to the fans.
I think he's loyal to himself and the fact that
I'm comfortable here. Sure, right, I don't need to go
to New York and try to be a Yankee. But
if you were to send me back to Philadelphia, it
maybe a different story.
Speaker 4 (53:32):
I mean, And let's be real, the real person here
that doesn't care to win is Artie Marino.
Speaker 5 (53:36):
He doesn't care to win in any way, shape or
for him.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
So if he cared about his player ever, he would
move Mike Trout to do he would make a move,
But he won't.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Do you think Bryce Harper is a bigger star than
Mike Trout? Yes, yeah, I think so too, which is
kind of better player.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
But no, but yeah, but yes he is a star.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
The one baseball part that I I I remember remember
on the Marlins got Pudge Rodriguez.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
Yeah, and he.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Had been in Texas and he was just the normal.
He was gonna make an All Star game. Everybody knew
about Pud Rodriguez and how good he was, and then
he went to the Marlins and then it was like, oh,
this is how good Pudge Rodriguez is now because they
were in the playoffs, the Rangers were never making the
postseason during those times, and I wonder like if that
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would be the case. I don't know, Maybe Mike Trout
doesn't know, doesn't have it in him. Even if you
were to, maybe the bar is lower. I'm not suing
what Mike Trout would be able to do if he
was in a new uniform, but I would be interesting,
would be interested to see if it would have that
rebirth like Peyton Manning, if it would have a bit
of a different look, like a Pudg Rodriguez. I just
feel like we were having the same conversations the last
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seven or eight years, and the only reason it's popping
up now is because the All Star Games in Philadelphia
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All Right, the World Cup semi final is here. We'll
keep you updated throughout the afternoon. Monzi France in Spain,
the Collision Course hit in Dallas. I'm excited for this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I'm very excited for this afternoon. I've told you I've
been so into this World Cup and I don't.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Think I can do it full time because I stress
out and I don't even care who wins, will choke.
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We'll tell you who the real winners of this World
Cup will be in about twenty minutes or so. But
there was a winner last night at the home run
derby in Philadelphia. And listen to the crowd not cheer.
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That was courtesy of Netflix last night. Isaac Glow, a crowd,
Jason Stewart, Iowa, Sam are here. That is what made
last night so awesome, Manci Belanios, is the fact that
the Philadelphia fans did what they are known to do,
and that's cheer against the opponent, and so when Jordan
Walker beat their own Kyle Schwarber last night, there was
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no reason to celebrate.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
It was really fun to watch and witness it go
down the way it did. I was at the stadium
working late, so I didn't get to watch it live,
and I was kind of keeping track, and so when
I went back to watch it, it was still as
awesome as everybody made it seem. Everybody was so into it,
you know, and I was like, man, I'm missing now.
When I went back, I still even though I knew one,
(01:53):
I was like, this is actually pretty awesome. And the
Philly fan base where the big reason. I think it
was a huge success.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It was from the get go, and I don't think
that they're the only ones, but I think they need
to take most of the most of the kudos in
all of this, because I think Manti even started at
the introductions. Now, there was about an hour pregame show
and then things kind of started at about eight o'clock
Eastern time, and they had a ring where the players
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the home run derby entrance would go into. I'm guessing
Jason Stewart Rocky theme again, the fake boxer. The Philadelphia
loves to embrace in Rocky, so they had a ring.
So Ben Rerice walks out, for example, and just gets booed. Yep,
he's a Yankee. But when Bryce Harper, who was the
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last one to be announced, and Kyle Schwarber was also
a part of that as a member of the Phillies,
Bryce Harper walks in, goes to the turnbuckle and stands
up and tries to get the crowd on their feet.
And from that point I felt it was just going
to be a different night. Whether it was timed home runs,
whether it was how many swings, whether it was the
Magenta ball, or whatever the case was. Bryce Harper was
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someone who was embracing the moment, and the Philadelphia fans
seemed to respond to it. And on days like this,
and I say this in our realm, when the All
Star Game is happening and there aren't other events going on,
the NBA offseason is pretty much wrapped up. Sands a
couple of big decisions by the NBA and from Lebron James,
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there usually becomes a conversation of what do you do
to fix the major League Baseball All Star Game or
what do you do to fix the home run Derby?
And I think that we found out the biggest solution
when it comes to home run derby. Just get guys
from the hometown team to participate. That's as simple as that,
and then you got the home team on your side.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
There is something exciting about that.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I was lucky enough to go to the home run
Derby when it was here in LA in twenty twenty two,
and Mookie Betts, who is not a big hitter, was
the representative for the Dodgers, and it does make it
a little bit better. But I will tell you, Dan,
I wonder if this Philly fan base is actually the
exception to the rule. I don't know, if we go
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to another stadium and put someone that is one of
the home one of the.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Home stars, if the reaction is like the reaction.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I heard last night on Netflix, Like I don't know
the extreme of what stream.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Of what they were.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
The fandom was in full force, like you said, from
beginning in the introductions to the very end, and it
was almost a scripted fairy tale, and almost for Kyle Schwarber,
who's having a great year, has had several great years
as a in Philadelphia. I was gonna say, as a
Philly fanatic, but that's all right, that's their mascot. But
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he has had so many great seasons that like, it
is awesome to see it, and it almost seems scripted,
like there's no way even the magenta ball, the first
one to hit the magenta ball, like everything seemed to
be going Schwarber's way.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You're saying that the fan base of say Kansas City,
if they had, you know, their their own or Detroit
or Milwaukee or whoever Jackson Churio's in Milwaukee, you don't
think the Brewers fan base would turn on the rest
of the competition. So Jackson Churio could win. Only the
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Phillies fans are the ones that are able to do it.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I don't know if other fan bases can do it
the way Philadelphia just did it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I'm not saying they're not booing. It was just very
clear that you were not welcome there. If you were
not Bryce Harper or Cokl Schwarber.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
You were not welcome there. It was so clear, and
it made it awesome. It made it awesome.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I really don't know if any if any other stadium
can do that.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I thought, I thought it's funny when you texted me
last week about the Price Is Right, and now the
woman won with twenty cents on the wheel rigged. My
wife is always saying, like, you you need to go
on this game show, and she knows how much I
love The Price Is Right. And I'm like, I'm never
going to go on The Prices Right because I don't
want to have my experience ruin the forty five years
(06:11):
that I've watched The Prices Right. I don't want me
messing up on contestants row or me messing up in
some sort of way to ruin what the experience would be.
I get the wrong number. Yeah, now I'm like, oh, geez,
I didn't win on one away. You know crazy sound effects? Lady?
Do I have four numbers right? And I don't and
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I changed the wrong ones. I also thought about this today.
You know how there are fan favorites on the Prices Right.
It's usually like an old Lady okay, And I feel
like the crowd, as much as they want to cheer
for the other two contestants, are really cheering for the
old lady, and I would hate for the crowd to
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be against me if I'm spinning the big wheel. And
I felt that is probably how Jordan Walker felt last night.
It's probably how Wilson Contreras felt last night. Like Jordan
Walker won, so he has the last laugh. And granted
it was his family, about five or six of them
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against the whole entire stadium. Like Wilson Contreras had his
brother on the other side, and it's his brother's on
the national league team, so it's like he's going up
against Kyle Swarbert. Wilson Contreras had nobody on his side,
no one, not a zilch except his brother who was
with the teammates from the other team. And I'm like,
(07:35):
is that a great I didn't think that Wilson Contreras
loved being there. Seem like it yeah, And it was like,
here's my all star opportunity I've sacrificed. Now these fans
don't want me there. That would be the flip side
of this argument of being like, oh my goodness, I'm
not being loved, which is like going to the price
is right and having the whole crowdchhare against me because
(07:58):
an eighty year old woman is about to spin the
wheel and beat me. To go to the showcase showdown, Like,
I think those are the the even things where I'm like,
I don't want it ruined. Was Wilson Contrera's is not ruined?
Was Jordan Walker's not going to be ruined if he
didn't win. I wondered about those emotions as well.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
But you're right, But I feel like for Contrera's, I mean,
I think Jordan Walker, by the end of it, looked
like he thought it was funny.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
By the end of it, you know he's in it,
He's like, what else am I gonna do? You're getting booed,
like there's nothing you could do. He can't hear his
four or five family members that are cheering, he can't
hear them at all.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
But I think it he must have looked at it like,
it's not it's not that necessarily, like it's anybody who's
not in Philadelphia. It's anyone who's not wearing this uniform.
It's not you, Jordan Walker, it's not you Contreras. It's
not you, well, maybe you Ben Rice because you're a Yankee,
but everyone else's like, it's just you're not wearing the
right uniform. And so I feel like you couldn't have
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taken it personal. You on the price is right because
the old lady you could take it personal because as
the old ladies just no, it's you dance standing next with.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Like no, one thousand fan favorites everywhere. There are fan
favorites everywhere one.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I look at, there are certain I've been able to
attend a few home run derbyes as well. I was
there the night that Josh Hamilton didn't win a Yankee
Stadium Oh no, and he had like thirty home runs
in the first round and was so tired that Justin
Morneau ended up winning the derby. Because of the way
that the format was. That was a reason why you
like you also like underwent some changes because Josh Hamilton
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was the story that night and all the home runs
that he hit, And at that point, the entire Yankee
Stadium crowd is just rallied behind Texas ranger Josh Hamilton.
But that doesn't happen every single time. You want to
know what the other moment of home run derby that
I remember, Todd Fraser, Cincinnati twenty fifteen. When I look
at Todd Fraser, the entire adjacent Stewart and your baseball historian.
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I don't know if you remember that night, but all
of Cincinnati was behind Todd Fraser and it became like
the Todd Fraser Weekend. And I felt last night was
the closest to that that I had experienced in an
All Star game. And it tells me if there are
two events that are giving me the same sort of
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feels and the same reason is the same reason is
happening on why I'm getting those feels, then that's something
major League Baseball has to check into it now should
be a responsibility. If you're hosting the home run Derby,
you have to have at least a player or two
in the derby. I don't care if Shoeo Tani doesn't
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want to ruin his swing and it would come back
to Dodger Stadium, that's fine. Make Mookie Bets and Maxis
Munty do it again or whoever. But like that is
what we have found as gold because you do have
a fan base. Now they may not boo the opponent,
but they're certainly going to get behind.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
One of their own, right right. I was, so I'm
mixed up my ears. There was no Dodger in the
home run derby in twenty twenty two. Moki Bets did
the next year okay, and so I got confused. I was,
but I remember the time we were upset that there
wasn't a Dodger. Corey Seger did it not as a Dodger,
And I feel like everyone went behind Corey Seger a
little bit in LA because he was the closest thing.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
But it's still it doesn't hit like I'm telling you.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Maybe maybe Yankee Stadium with Aaron Judge for a home
run derby, maybe they can get the way we just
saw it happen in phil ad All.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I think I Bed Rice, if this was at Yankee Stadium, Ben,
they may not have booed.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
That's what That's what That's what was impressive though.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It was the constant booing, The booing when you did
hit a home run.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
What have you ever heard that? The booing when you
did hit a home run.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It sounded like a library don some of those home
runs that were hit, I.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Could see people not booing and not cheering, which is
I think more of what would happen if Ben Rice
a Yankee Stadium is having a good home run derby.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Maybe there's no cheering for.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
The other players, but there's no booing the way we
heard it last night like it was.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
It made it made a great show. And I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Not only should you have a person representing your team
at home and a home run derby, but if you
have a a Bryce Harper who has won in the
past because of his personality can be there, that's who
you got to get. Also, you know what I'm saying,
like a Kiky Hernandez if we're talking about the Dodgers,
like who's your hype guy, who's the hype guy for
your fans, for the TV, for the cameras, you gotta
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find that.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Like Bryce Harper allowed the moment at the beginning when
he went on the turnbuckle, and it was exciting, it
was great, but ultimately it's Swarber who then ends up
competing and the fans still get behind him. So I
and I'm not saying throw nobody's up there, but like,
if you're all Star caliber at least in that in
that realm and you're hosting, you need that. I will listen.
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We've tried to change formats in different stuff, hmm. And
I'm not saying that another format change needs to be made.
But to figure out a way to allow the crowd
to get into it in a way where they have
a rooting interest instead of just watching home run after
home run is something that I think Major League Baseball
needs to look into. Jason Stewart, you took in parts
of the OLM run derby last night.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
And I think that the dynamic that plays out here.
Think about it. What do we hate most about Philly
fans is what we loved most about the event last night.
I think Philly fans are the only ones obnoxious enough
and arrogant enough to not cheer someone else's success and
to boo other people's success. New York has a little
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bit of that, but I think the cities that you
named and Todd Frazier, Cincinnati, and you mentioned Kansas City,
Midwest nice people. They really want their guy to win,
but they're going to also cheer everybody because you know,
that's just kind of a Midwest sentimentality. I think Philadelphia
is a unique venue and that's what made it the best,
and it also I think showed you just how much
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brass gumption Jordan Walker has. Imagine the just the amount
of pressure last night and how calm and collected. He
was that showed me something. And I know that the
rule is, don't tell me about your fantasy team. Nobody cares.
I do want to. I want to tell a little story, Dan,
because you'll appreciate this. I'm the guy that was in
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early on Jordan Walker on my fantasy team. I had
him during the early years when he was the prospect
that was supposed to be the big thing, and this
was the one year I didn't grab him. So somebody
else's enjoying the fruits of me taking their guy. Yes, yes,
So I have a personal grudge against Jordan Walker, so
I wasn't necessarily rooting for him, But watching him last night,
you cannot be anything but impressed by the way he
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delivered against Schwarber, against that crowd.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That was amazing. It was, and Walker, I think was
fueled by the booze.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
And then there was a point too that I wondered,
I'm like Kyle Schwarber. They kept on panning over to him,
and you could tell it meant something to me, And
I felt like Jordan Walker had a tough time looking
Schwarber in the eye because he knew that he just
took away that moment, but also as a competitor, you
have to love it to shove it in the fans
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of forty thousand and I agree with you what you're saying, Jason,
And it's to the point that Manzi's saying is there
is just that Philly fan base that these other places
can't do it. However, what made half of last night
great was them cheering for schwarbur And that's what I
think you got in Cincinnati in twenty fifteen, where I
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just remember the site and how it just became Todd
Frazier's weekend and how great the home run derby. I
don't remember other home run derbys since then that happened
with those moments, even the ones that I've attended. I
was at the one the next year in San Diego.
I don't even know what happened. I forgot what happened
at that point. It's just the excitement of how the
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crowd gets into it. The Midwest nice sort of thing.
I also think is a part of all the ballparks,
as everybody's there and they want to see home runs.
But if you actually have a rooting interest in you
who are rooting for something in that event, it can
only make it better. And that's in a year where
Jeff Passon said beforehand, I think these new rules are
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gonna stink. I don't know if he said it because
he was on Netflix and not on ESPN, but then
he said, Passon's an idiot when he ended up tweeting
it after the event and how great it was. We
can try all these things, but you need the fans
to be involved, and you know what, you need your
star players to be involved. Bryce Harper really had no
reason to compete, none whatsoever, but he did it because
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it was Philadelphia and it was in his own ballpark
and the ovation and what he got in coming out.
That should be a message to other players when the
All Star Game, hopefully we have one next season, but
even in future years, like there's you got to get
these players out there. It just can't be like, hey,
let's get some of the young stars out there because
none of the Vets want to do it. It's more
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of an event and if you can have those sort
of nights, even better.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Okay, so here's wrap it up. I feel like if
we would have had Aaron.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Judge yesterday participating and he hits a bomb of a
home run. I feel like the booze would have gone
higher in Philadelphia. Right if we're in La, if we're
at Dodger Stadium home run derby and it is Max
Munsey or let's just say show Heyo TONI show Hey
O Tani and Aaron Judge, and Aaron Judge hits a
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bomb of a home run, there would be people clapping.
There will not be the booze because especially I think
coming to an All Star game, you want to see
all the stars. Like, yes, obviously you may have a
rooting interest, but the cool thing about this is you
could see all these stars and I don't see any
other stadium going extra hard or show Heyo Tani hitting
a home run in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
The booze would have gone harder.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I feel like you put show Hey O Tani and
Aaron Judge in other stadiums, away stadiums on you know,
enemy territory, and they hit a home run, people will
stand up and do a slow clap for them.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
They will not overcheer. But Philadelphia is I'm gonna boot harder.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yes, I agree with that. What's more realistic though, Aaron
Judge competing in a home run derby again, or maybe
having someone of like a hometown team being able to compete.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I was just using them as an example. But you're right,
he's not. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I just feel like everywhere else you would see the
baseball just the baseball fan appreciate a great do something.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I think so. I also think that it shows the
responsibility though of players who are and are competing. Not
judge obviously injured.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
But but he's already won. He did it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yes, he's did it in one check he has, he
has done it. But Bryce Harper being able to do
it next year it's at Wrigley Field in Chicago. If
there is an All Star Game next season, yeah, maybe
some peak Crow.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Armstrong, it's got to be him.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
That's a perfect example, Dan, that's a great example. Sorry
to cut you off, but that I think that the
Cubs fans are going to come out and they want
their Armstrong. And he's a bit of a personality and
he's an obnoxious kind of kid that you can get behind.
But the I think that the Wrigley Field fans are
not going to turn on Crow Armstrong's opponent right like
Philly fans would. But they're geting to cheer the hell
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out of Crow Armstrong. That's a great example.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, and I'm not saying that they would either. But
what I'm saying is, if you don't have anybody from
the hometown team, no one's gonna care for sure. And
so in twenty fifteen when it was Todd Frasier in Cincinnati,
it was magnificent because how they all rallied around him.
The Philly fans last night were great for two reasons.
They were great number one because they were cheering so
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hard for Schwarber, and number two, they were cheering so
hard for him that they rooted against his opponent. And
so what you guys said at the beginning, yeah, there's
other markets aren't going to do that. However, other markets
can easily all twenty nine. Other teams can easily cheer
for their own players. And so when you have the
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responsibility of hosting an All Star Game, I would hope
the cities and the teams that have and in the
future and their star players take the responsibility on like
Kyle Schwarber and Bryce Harper did last night, because that's
the real recipe to success. Just ask the dunk contest, right, yes, right,
I mean it's the Dunk Contest is a one hundred
times worse. We have players that aren't even in the
league that we need to compete in the Dunk Contest
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to make it interesting and to get a fan base
behind like they did last night. It's truly unique.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You're right, it was a lot of things that just
went perfectly last night for this for how fun it
was to watch, I will say I think I missed
a timer.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I felt like there was no sense of urgency. But
I don't know if that was just me because I
watched it after the fact, but I thought.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
There was no sense of urgency from these guys. Well, yeah,
you have an amount of swings, not a timer, and
I kind of missed the timer.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I didn't even care. No, just yeah, as long as
the brewing and stuff happen, because I think we can
always tweak. Like I don't care how they win. The
night's long anyway. It's like when you end up attending
those events, it's neat to see the home runs at first.
But yeah, I think you can do all the things
that you need to do, but if you can get
the fans involved, that's all you need.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
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Speaker 7 (21:17):
Rory McElroy was asked the following question today at a
pre tournament news conference.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Listen, Rory, how concerned are you with your legacy past
when you'll be on this earth? How considered you with
how you'll be viewed in one hundred years? Do you
think about that kind of thing? Does it matter to
you since you won't be here? I mean, what how
does that go?
Speaker 9 (21:35):
You know? I would like to think that the people
that love and care about me think a certain way
of me. But yeah, I'll be I'll be long gone.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
I'll be dead.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I don't think.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
I'll be seeing what people say about me. I'll be
six feet under. I don't think he'll be a ghost.
I don't think he'll be you know, like I am. Yeah,
I don't care.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
On that note, Dan and Matty back to you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Now, do I think we're going to be talking about
Tiger Woods one hundred years from now? Yes, I don't
know if we'll be talking about Rory mcclroy, Which is
I think is what the reporter wanted to ask, but
he just asked it in a.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Very very weird way.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Correct, So I'm not mad at how Rory McElroy answered it.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
An hundred years would be done. I don't care. I
don't care. Yeah, the way it was the way it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Was at twenty six Jason Stewart.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Dan, how do how does Rory McElroy fit into the
conversation we just had because he was one of those phenoms.
I remember Sports Illustrated did quite the ride up on
him when he was young, before he hit the circuit.
Has he lived up to the hype now compared to
Tiger Woods, And that's a very unfair comparison. He probably hasn't,
but he has lived up to what was what we
(22:46):
were told about him.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yes, I also think that it's a I think that
things are different in individual sports versus team sports.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
M M.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I think that when it's all about Rory May, I
actually think that there are less places to fail. However,
there are cautionary tales. Michelle Wee someone that we thought
was going to be You know, there are tennis players
Naomi Osaka is talked about some of her mental battles.
You know, some of these players are playing at the
highest level when they're teenagers. So like the Bryce Harper
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thing is, he was put in the spotlight as a teenager,
but wasn't playing a saying an adult sport if you will,
So I think there's some differences there. But I think
that Rory has done a good job and living up
to his expectations the problem that you pose, and I
think it's ultimately fair. There will never be another Tiger Woods,
h for the for the the racial implications, the social implications,
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and just the type of player that he was in
the sport that it was in the sports history, there
will just never be another Tiger Woods. So it will
always be impossible to have anybody compared to what Tiger
went through.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, no, I don't know if we're ever going to
see at Tiger Woods anywhere any sport, you know what
I'm saying, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I don't think that I don't think that you will
ever again. And it also shows on how much the
world has changed in thirty years or forty years in
considering where there were still changes in the eighties and nineties,
and Tiger's talked about that. I think we're in a
better spot than we are, so I don't think that
those difficulties were there twenty and thirty and forty years ago.
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But that's why no one, just no one can ever
compare to what Jackie Robinson went through, you know. I mean,
it's just it's not going to happen, and there are
some sort of parallels there. Speaking of controversy, Jason Stewart
was the one who made controversy on social media this
weekend in a tweet that I'm seeing has had three
(24:47):
hundred and twenty two thousand impressions. Jason, this was dropped
down on July tenth. This was Saturday. Great graphic, by
the way, but you've got almost fifteen hundred comments on
your social media post. Can you please explain.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
First and foremost, Isaac, I didn't see you share or
like this this post, so you obviously didn't see it. Moncey,
you didn't share or like it either. I mean it,
I don't think I know Dan saw it because I
brought it to his attention, but he hasn't shared or
liked it. So I'll try not to hold it against
any of you for that. I decided because it's kind
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of one of those times the years middle of summer
let me do a list, a baseball movie list. Baseball
is my sport I think I have. I have a
very good taste in movies, and only the five of
you understand my sense of humor. Most of Twitter doesn't
because a lot of the crap that I got about
this is how how definitive I was in my language.
(25:47):
This was the caption, I have considerably good taste in movies,
so those there shouldn't be any arguments about this list.
So that's that's the sarcasm, right. So I listed my
movies Bull Durham number one, Major League number two, Field
of Dreams number three, The Natural number four, and Moneyball
number five. And the different ways this was reacted to
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was fascinating because Dan, you've had one of these tweets
all of us have, Like your post creates conversations between
other people and then theirs side conversations, and it just
it just became a life of its own. If you
look at some of the responses here. Richard Roper tops
the list. He was the one that would like fill
in for Ciskel or Ebert when they were out back
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in the nineties.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
He commented on yours.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
He said, all star lineup? Oh really, yeah, and then
he went in and he made a couple of substitutions.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
My favorite is that the people that I know and
a friend of mine was the first comment that pops up.
He said, any list of baseball movies that doesn't have
bad news bears first is not a good list. So
my friend Simon, who you have no idea who he
is living in Iowa, completely completely disregarded your list. This
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is what I love about the fourteen hundred comments plus
on it. Were the people who would say, I'd remove
this and put this one otherwise good list, or the
ones who felt like we needed to know their list.
And I don't know if they felt like it was
an open invitation like here's where everybody puts their top
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five baseball movies of all time. But the different the
different ways people took this tweet and decided to respond.
Some were agreeing with you, but still wanted to disagree
by saying you had one wrong. Others just wanted to
give their own list. Others completely discredited it. It was
It was quite an interesting exercise on the psychology of
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people who love baseball.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
And by the way, the loudest of that group was
sant Sandlot. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I don't know, you don't have sound.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Any list is invalid. In fact, I got I got
some scuds within my own household. My super hot girlfriend
Christina looked at me and she said, hey, you forgot
sand Loot on the list, as if it wasn't me,
You purposefully leaving it off because I think it's not
my top five. She just thought I forgot about it.
(28:14):
That's how definitive she was, so much so that she
forced me to watch it again on Friday night Saturday night.
And I still hold my opinion that's not in my
top ten.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
And I'll see Richard Roper's comment seems like he's flexing, flexing.
Everybody wants some never heard of it, never heard of
it at all. Do you know, Sam, have you seen
everybody want some? No? I haven't either. Maybe everybody wants
some eight, but not this one. Like there's there's there's
none of that, like there's I've never ever heard of
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that movie before Manzi at all.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
No no idea.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So I think he was trying to flex some of
the movie that nobody ever heard of.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
That was the thing, like something they would start with
a compliment and then they would throw you some information
that made them look smart. That's a very common tactic
on this tweek.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
He did give you two thumbs up in five baseballs, though,
Richard Roper, take those Sandlot more Sandlot and then sir,
I don't even know this is real name. He may
be the only person out there who didn't care for
Bull Durham. Interesting, how did you make the graphics so good?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
I don't think I watched Bull Durham.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I didn't see the natural on you. You haven't watched
Bull Durham.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Oh, please do.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
I don't know if I am.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
I beg you to do it. I want, I want
your review, but I don't know. It's like my entire
fifty three years of watching movies and I have a
favorite movie and there's someone on the show that hasn't
seen it once. You have to watch it, just at
the very least, so I get your review. But Dan,
you bring up a good point. So the graphic that
I made was made AI and that that was a
(29:50):
separate tangent to this reaction of people call me a
bad guy for wasting the water to do the AI graphic.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I think they think it's more a fa if you
would have just put up this tweet on your own,
I don't think it would have gotten nearly the response
catches the eye, yes, but because it was a graphic,
it makes it seem like this is an authoritative list.
And then you put the the years that were next
to it, which I don't know if that was you
(30:18):
or AI, and I think that that added it. Eighties
late eighties were quite the uh, quite the time for
baseball movies.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, everybody loves the lists, but you're right, making it
into a graphic is more eye catching. If you would
have just written it out, people probably would have just
scrolled right by it, like without even paying attention. They
were just scrolled right. In fact, that probably would have
liked it without really knowing what it was, just been like, oh, like.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Jason Stewart whatever. And I did not see this though
I did not see this tweet.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Yeah, I noticed.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I noticed.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
You didn't say it, you didn't like or share it.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
I just liked it. I'm gonna comment, by.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
The way, the by the way that Bull Durham. The
most commented criticism of Bull Durham is that it's a
chick flick, So, if anything, you should watch it because
you're a chick Manci because there's a great love story,
great writing, and baseball is about.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
As a background, is it, Kevin Costner, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
I'm looking forward to you saying that. I would love
to say it for the first time.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
A young Glenn Powell start in Everybody Wants Something twenty sixteen.
You look that up as well, Sam, I was looking
at it. I've never heard of this movie. Yeah, I
came out in twenty sixteen. I was just going to
be seven percent on Rotten Tokay, Well, he is a roper,
is a movie guy, so maybe that's a hidden gem
we're missing out on. But Jason, so The Sandlot came
out when you were seventeen, so this was thirty three
(31:31):
years ago.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I'm a little older than the crew there.
Speaker 11 (31:34):
So you're reasoning for it watching, Yeah, your reasoning was
like this was more for like ten to twelve year
old kids, like younger kids, because it's.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
About kids that age.
Speaker 11 (31:42):
I think I missed it and maybe you were just
a little too old for it to really ring you
in and rain you in with the magic and because
like when I saw it, I was I was seven
years old. Oh your wheelhouse, yeah, oh yeah, and then
all the stuff with like getting the ball back from
the dog and all the contraptions they make to try
to get the ball back, and just like it's a
fourth it's sort of a Fourth of July movie.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
It's a summer movie. Like there's a lot of reasons
I like the Sandlot and Sandlot with this generation now
making a lot of waves on social media, Yes, coming
back that way as well. What's the you've seen Sandlot? Yes, okay,
but you haven't seen Everybody Want Some? And you haven't
seen Bull Durham. What are you most likely to watch
this week? Bull Durham? Or Everybody Wants Some?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Boul Duram. Okay, there, everybody Wants Some? Is this a
baseball movie?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah? This is the one though with Glenn Powell College
freshman which basement. Yes, an unruly group of disco dancing,
skirt chasing partiers as they navigate there through the freedom
and responsibilities of unsupervised adulthood.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
There it is twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah, Jason Stewart got everybody on their toes this past weekend.
I love it when friends of mine are responding and
they don't necessarily know the connection. Maybe I'll give you
Simon's number and you guys can go ahead to head
about bad news bearers.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Oh good, just give it out right now.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
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Speaker 3 (33:14):
We're talking all stars, that we're talking superstars here on
Stu Gotson Company Live. We're also at the half of
the World Cup match between France and Spain. Anything happens
in that match, we will let you know. Isaac Lowinkron
is at the news desk. Jason Stewart is our executive producer,
Iowa Sammar technical producer.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
And Mansei dying over here.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
The Stars come out tonight. The Stars come out tonight
in Philadelphia, the National League taking on the American League
in the All Star Game. There is no show Heyo Tani,
there is no Aaron judge. But there are two players
that we focus on, and one we talked a little
bit about earlier in the show. That was Bryce Harper,
who I felt took the home run derby last night
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to another level just by his introduction. He didn't last
past the opening round of the event, but to have
Bryce Harper at you know, in his mid thirties competing
in this event in the home in front of the
hometown fans. I thought was very good for baseball and
I hope other players, especially those that have their teams
since cities hosting All Star Games in the future, will
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remember what Bryce Harper did and trying to elevate that
event last night, which I think was elevated, and Kyle
Schwarber making it to the finals elevated that event. I
think that Bryce Harper deserves kudos for that. Bryce Harper
also a legends, the legend in the game. We've had
legends picks in the games before. He'll be a member
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of the All Star team tonight, but so will Mike Trout.
And Mike Trout was peppered with questions yesterday about his
ties to Philadelphia and the possibility of maybe him being
dealt by the Angels, something that team has not wanted
to do, not wanted to let him go. But Mike
Trout is seemingly said all of the right things. But
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I'll also said that ultimately it's his decision. I'm not
sure if that's necessarily true. But here we are at
this All Star break where Mike Trout is getting the
love that he needs and maybe the love that he deserves.
From the Philly fans and those in Major League Baseball
playing for a team that once again is nowhere near
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contention in the American League.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, I look at Mike Trout and I wonder did
he miss a different opportunity? Did he miss the chance
to actually do something with his career because being an
Angel has done nothing for him, nothing, nothing, nothing. And
I always like to look at Mike Trout and where
we if fifty years from now, how we're going to
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look at Mike Trout because I feel like Mike Trout
and Bryce Harper were trying to They were kind of
the faces of baseball, or at least they were trying
to be as in the league trying to push them,
and for various reasons, they didn't.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
They didn't make it.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Mike Trout didn't make it because of the organization I
think holding him back when he was a three time
MVP for like years. Mike Trout was the best player
and there was no question about it. Bryce Harper was
a star early on and delivered by by being by
having the it factor. He has the it factor. Bryce
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Harper has the it factor, but it didn't He didn't
hit the way we see now with like Shoeo Tani
and Aaron Judge being the faces.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I look at Bryce Harper and like Mike Trout and
Bryce Harper like the dream scenario of them finally playing together.
Even when Harper came over from the Nationals and signed
this free agent deal with the Phillies, then there was talko,
how about YouTube teaming up? And this is you know what,
seven years ago that hasn't come to fruition, but there's
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still there's still the whole. But now you're in this
scenario where these worlds collide in Philadelphia and you're saying, Okay,
now could be the time. Because it's also of how
long does Bryce Harper have left to play in Major
League Baseball? And you say that Bryce Harper maybe hasn't
risen to the level of face of the game.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
And yeah, I think it's a little short of maybe
what they hoped.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I think that I think that it's difficult to do
it when you're a Washington National. Sure, I think that
sho Hey Otani is just impossible to compare yourself to,
and Aaron Judge, being the Yankee being who he is,
is also tough to compete with. There was a time
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before Otani became Otani and Judge became Judge that major
League Baseball was looking for a face, and I think
that Bryce Harper may not have been the face to
the level of what Shohy and Aaron Judge were, but
was one of those faces. And well, you may not
think that Bryce Harper reached the level of what we
see now in Major League Baseball, and that's fine that
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you're a pinion. I think that Bryce Harper is in
a mode that Mike Trout is, and Mike Trout's been
great from the get go, but Bryce Harper has had
to deal with trying to be the next mega superstar
in his sport and is one of those athletes that
maybe you can name on one hand that actually fulfilled
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almost what he was expected to do. When you're on
the cover of Sports Illustrated as a teenager, there's a
lot of responsibility that comes with that. I think that
that Bryce Harper has has fulfilled what we had hoped
he would become. I think Lebron James has the expectations
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on Lebron James, I think that has been fulfilled. Like
in a way you could say Tiger Woods, considering Tiger
was so young and he is, you know, chipping golf
balls on Network TV when he's two and three years old,
doing it on the Tonight Show. To live up to
that and become the player that he had, I would
say Peyton Manning lived up to the expectations that were
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bestowed upon him in becoming the player that he was.
But when you look through out sports and you look
at all the team phenoms, whether it be in high
school football, basketball, the ones that didn't take, I give
Bryce Harper a lot of credit for the success that
he's had and the player that he's become, considering the
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expectations that we had for him when he was a
teenager growing up in Las Vegas. So like I look
at Bryce Harper and some people may maybe you say,
what could have been? You know, in looking last night,
Oh this is how it could have been. And I
look at Bryce Harper and I say, that's a pretty
darn impressive career that not many people can say that
they have in their lives.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I guess the reason I think it felt a little
bit sure, in my opinion, is because baseball was not
thriving when they were trying to push him as the
face and Mike Trout and I think that you see
that now. I feel it's a example of what you
said bringing up even Sho Heo Tani, because Shoeo Tani
with what he did with the Angels, it was he drove,
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you know, twenty five miles down and we're acting like
he's brand new to La and it's a very different
experience him being a Dodger versus Angel. So I thought
that was a perfect example in relation to Bryce Harper
and being a National But then he left and the
Nationals won World Series after he left, and he goes
to Philly, which is a perfect team for him. But
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I feel like even though he had the it factor,
some people didn't like him, and so I think he
was held back.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Whether it was because.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
He was a Philly or it was his own antics,
I don't know what it was, but I feel like
he did not reach what could have been reached, could
have what he could have done, and baseball wasn't thriving
with him and Mike Trowell, And then there was like
pushes of other faces that never like. I feel like
Ronald Acunya Junior was another face that maybe they were
trying to push a couple of years ago, never hit
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some just never hit it and then you see how
it did hit and that's why maybe it's unfair, but
I just don't think Bryce Harper lived up to the
expectation that they I.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Don't think I don't think that Akunya Junior or any
of those other players. And maybe some of it was
brought on by Bryce Harper. Maybe the face paints, you know,
the the image that he portrayed, but he lived up
to it. And I think he's actually been good for baseball.
And I'm not holding the World Series won by the
Nationals against him because I don't think one player is
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the difference in baseball when it comes to the World Series.
And I would say that him leading the Phillies to
a World Series a few years ago or being a
part of that, is comparable to what the Nationals ended
up doing in winning. And now granted that didn't beat
the Astros ended up losing in six games, but he
got them to a World Series, got him to an
NLCS where they lost in seven games. It hasn't been
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failure in that point. The Phillies have been winning. But
I'm not going to say that the Nationals winning the
year after he left was Oh, thank goodness, we got
rid of Bryce Harper, because Bryce Harper then has shown
what he's been able to do, you know, with the Phillies,
and I just Bryce Harper as I just I just
think of the Brian Taylors of the world, of former
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number one picks in Major League Baseball who never lived
up to the expectations. Jason Stewart in our pre show
meeting Sebastian Telfair, I believe, was on the cover of
a Sports Illustrated. There's a lot that comes with that,
and when you're a teenager, I think it's an easy
way to go awry. And Bryce Harper is felt like
he's been on the steady and straight path and didn't
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get caught up into it and is a two time MVP,
has played in World Series, so I would think, like,
I'm not going to hold it against him for maybe
not reaching the highest of the highest and winning a
World Series, because I think he's done about as much
as he can do with someone who had the microscope
on him that very very few players have now. Mike
Trout came into the league as a young player as well.
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His conversation is complete different than Bryce Harper's in terms
of how we look at their their legacy. I just
I just hold Bryce Harper in a special class because
I think he had to endure what a lot of
people didn't endure.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
And that's that's fair. Maybe I guess said, maybe I'm
being harsh.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
I just do feel that base you weren't necessarily turning
on a game to watch Bryce Harper because I feel
like some he rubbed people the wrong way, and so
I just don't know if he brought in as many
eyes as other players did. But we definitely I can
appreciate everything he's done, and I think his his name,
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his legacy may outlast what Mike Trout did, even though.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
Mike Drout has more MVPs. Like it's just we I'm
gonna I'm gonna remember Bryce Harper.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
I hope we've all we don't forget Mike Trout, but
I feel like Mike Trout because of how this is all.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Ending for him, It's gonna be like a footnote.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Trout is a better player. There's no I's argument this
is targeting. Again. Bryce Harper is two MVPs, But I
don't think that you would you could say that Bryce
Harper's was better than Mike Trout's on the individual level.
But it is funny to me on how I do
feel like Bryce Harper and just even look at last night.
Bryce Harper won the home run Derby by the way,
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one of three players with Todd Frazier and Ryan the
late Ryan Samberg who won the home run Derby in
Chicago in nineteen ninety when it wasn't the home run
Derby that we all know and love the three players
to win home run Derbys in their their own ballparks,
but you have when you have Mike Trout and just
the level of success that he has had had early
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in his career. I love looking just at his Baseball
Reference page, Manci to sit there and just look at
all the highlighted this is what he led the league
in like it's it's it's absurd, but it's also been
seven years and at what point does it just become
all right again? All right, here we go again? And
I'm almost like, in a way, it was rejuvenating to
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see Bryce Harper last night. To me, it's a bit
draining to hear about Mike trust trade talk again because
it just isn't it hasn't happened, It isn't happening. Maybe
maybe that a trade that would happen would rejuvenize and
electrify things. But I'm almost just tired of the Mike
Trout trade talk because I just don't think that it's happening.
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And I'm not sure if anybody else who truly cares
about the Mike Trout trade talk outside of Philadelphia right now?
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Also, why now? Why at this point.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
If it hadn't if you know, previous years.
Speaker 5 (45:29):
Look, if I'm Mike Trout at this point, I'm like,
why now?
Speaker 4 (45:32):
At least Angel fans can say I've had Mike Trout
on my team forever, he might as well finish it out.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Like I totally can relate to that, because it's like, guys,
it's not happening. And if he does, why now? Why now?
Speaker 4 (45:46):
I mean, if you're going to join a team to win,
you might as well come to the Dodgers. You might
as well just come down the street. And that's not
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
It's what makes the Eagels look so bad is they
had Otani and Trout and they still can't figure out
a way to win exactly, which tells you which why
you shouldn't hold it against Bryce Harper for not winning
because they had two all time greats on their team
and couldn't win. Jason Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
So I do I fully agree with you that he's
one of the He's one on a short list of
people that came in with so much hype. You were like,
there's no way anyone could live up to this, And
I think he has lived up to it. He's the one.
I think we used to play this game with Gottlieb right,
and you would do these games and you'd be like,
(46:28):
I think one of the topics once was what's a
person that you would like walk out of the beer
line to make sure you caught it home plater, or
or if he's on TV, you're going to make sure
you watch you about Bryce Harper is on a very
short list of people that qualify for that for me.
So I think he has lived up to the expectation.
And I want to kind of bring Isaac into this.
(46:49):
Can we also think of those like we have been
in this space for so long and we have seen
people hyped, and the reason why it's like hype is
because we are told by people that cover these people
in youth sports and high school, so we just kind
of have to take your word for it. Sebastian Telfair
was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Do you remember
(47:09):
a guy named Freddie I do? Oh, yes, whatever happened
to Freddy? I do?
Speaker 10 (47:13):
Apparently it was much add to you about nothing.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
I could say, we bit ad We have seen so
many of these though, that we were told Freddie Adu
was going to be the face of American soccer, he
was going to lift the sport, and he disappeared. And
Christian Pulisic, Pulisic, whatever his name is. I thought we
were told a couple of years ago he was the
same guy, and he then I was just told the
other day that he's not even in the same like
(47:37):
upper couple tiers of soccer. That's a great point. I
don't necessarily blame polistic. I don't necessarily blame.
Speaker 7 (47:44):
Freddy ado for that matter, in a different way, which
we can talk about later. I don't blame Tim Tebow
or Caitlin Clark. I blame what I call the sports
media industrial complex, to be honest with you, and.
Speaker 10 (47:54):
You guys are not a part of it, but others are.
Speaker 6 (47:57):
But Bryce Harper super seded that that James.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Yeah, and there are very few people that have players
and athletes that have been under it from that long
and didn't. This is there. There are guys who were
stars in college that came up and made a name
for themselves, Like you can name a bunch of players.
But to be that young and then to fulfill it
and be like, oh he ended up coming through and
(48:23):
doing it, I think is special to Bryce Harper. What
I also look at and I use Peyton Manning as
an example, and I know I've said this on this
network a bunch. The thing that surprises me so much
about Peyton Manning's career is how much run the Denver
Broncos get for having him as the quarterback when he
was there four seasons. I mean, think about the time
if you were to rewind Monsei when Peyton Manning was
(48:47):
dueling Tom Brady in the Patriots as a member of
the Colts, to see Peyton Manning in any other uniform
outside of the blue and white and the horseshoe and
the helmet would be blasphemy. And now because of Manning
going to the two Super Bowls, of having the career
year with Denver, the way things kind of fell out
with the Colts in the neck injury and then being like,
(49:10):
well Andrew Lux the quarterback, we kind of got a
Payton's like, Okay, I'm gonna go play. Like I feel
like in some part that the Colt's tenure is overshadowed.
Peyton Mannix still lives in the Denver area by what
he did in Denver. So to bring up Mike Trout,
I wonder if it's not too late, where if Mike Trout,
(49:30):
let's say we're to go to the Phillies and somehow
trade in a deal and let's say he played four
more seasons, played into his late thirties, then they won
a World Series. How that would overshadow his complete career
of the Angels. So I still think, while I well,
I find the topic of Trout just sometimes because it's
just been over and over in the same thing and
(49:53):
the same thing, and this weekend it comes up again
because he's in Philadelphia. I'm not ready to say and
I'm cashing all of my chips, because I do think
if you were to go to a different team, specifically
if it was the Phillies, it could rejuvenate him and
almost take over a part of his career and eclipse
all of the decade plus years that he did with
(50:15):
the Angels because of what he could do in this
next short window. I would not put them past that.
If he were to go to a contender, I think
that could be possible.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
I could see that, I could see that that's a
really great way to put it.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
I just if we're gonna do it now.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
But it's like you said, it's been years, so I
don't even honestly, the guys.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
I don't know if Mike Trout.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
Cares about winning a World Series. I truly don't know
if he does, because I think if he cared to
win a World Series, he would not stay an Angel.
There's no way you can be part of that organization
for how many years and realize that it's a dumpster
fire and you decided to stay there because why you
like la, you like to be there's things about it right,
(50:56):
you make your.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
Decisions, And I, honestly, I don't know if he can hairs.
Speaker 6 (51:01):
I think there's a there's there's two things that play here,
and you need to tell me what you believe, because
the narrative is that he is so loyal to the
Angels that he doesn't want to leave. Sure, that's different
than I don't want to win a title. So which
is it? Because staying with the Angels, you're never going
to win a title.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
We all know that, Okay, So let me let me
rephrase it.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Then let's say that I'm that he does it his loyalty.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
He's he's okay with not winning and stain in age,
no doubt, that's let's plate that. Of course he wants
to everybody wants to win. But I'm saying like it
doesn't drive him.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
It's not enough for him to pack up and move
with other situations. I feel like we see it, they
quickly move on. He he has not because he's had
the opportunity.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
He saw sho.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
Hal Toddy literally do this three years ago, like he can.
He could have done it and he wasn't. I just
don't think it drives him.
Speaker 5 (51:53):
I think he's accepted, like, you know, I'm good, I'm good.
You know who's good? Spain's good?
Speaker 3 (51:59):
He did say, yeah, Spain is good. Spain is very good.
They just scored again two nil, Spain on top of
France in the fifty eighth minute.
Speaker 5 (52:11):
It wasn't sure how quickly I could mention it.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
It's very good. I looked up and they were celebrating.
The friends are being fried right now in Dallas. Nice
the spain of that two nil lead. What the fact.
I I think that Trout, if it was Philadelphia, would
(52:33):
want to ultimately go. But I just don't think that
the Angels are to that point of I just think
that they're fine with whatever is going on because it's
been this status quo. They don't need to make a
big trade that would give them prospects to set up
for the future. And I think that's an indictment. I mean,
you know, they just fired their GM a couple of
(52:54):
weeks ago. So whoever comes in, you know, and now
is running the front office going to go in and
trade Mike Trout, you know, and a month on the
job and there's no real future plan. I think it's
I think it's going to be difficult. But I do
think that if it was the Phillies and it was
that opportunity, he would do so. I don't think he
would just go to any other team and win, So,
in a way kind of splitting the difference of I
(53:16):
think that he's loyal to a point to the fans.
I think he's loyal to himself and the fact that
I'm comfortable here. Sure, right, I don't need to go
to New York and try to be a Yankee. But
if you were to send me back to Philadelphia, it
maybe a different story.
Speaker 4 (53:32):
I mean, And let's be real, the real person here
that doesn't care to win is Artie Marino.
Speaker 5 (53:36):
He doesn't care to win in any way, shape or
for him.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
So if he cared about his player ever, he would
move Mike Trout to do he would make a move,
But he won't.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Do you think Bryce Harper is a bigger star than
Mike Trout? Yes, yeah, I think so too, which is
kind of better player.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
But no, but yeah, but yes he is a star.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
The one baseball part that I I I remember remember
on the Marlins got Pudge Rodriguez.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
Yeah, and he.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Had been in Texas and he was just the normal.
He was gonna make an All Star game. Everybody knew
about Pud Rodriguez and how good he was, and then
he went to the Marlins and then it was like, oh,
this is how good Pudge Rodriguez is now because they
were in the playoffs, the Rangers were never making the
postseason during those times, and I wonder like if that
(54:27):
would be the case. I don't know, Maybe Mike Trout
doesn't know, doesn't have it in him. Even if you
were to, maybe the bar is lower. I'm not suing
what Mike Trout would be able to do if he
was in a new uniform, but I would be interesting,
would be interested to see if it would have that
rebirth like Peyton Manning, if it would have a bit
of a different look, like a Pudg Rodriguez. I just
feel like we were having the same conversations the last
(54:49):
seven or eight years, and the only reason it's popping
up now is because the All Star Games in Philadelphia
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