September 10, 2026 • 28 mins
On this edition of the Best of Stugotz and Company LIVE!: Stu and the guys partake in a round of "Think About It Thursday". Stu and the fellas discuss the Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks. Plus, Stugotz and Company take calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, congratulations. No one's paying attention. Football season has started.
We have let an angry Sal Licata go. His microphone
just wasn't working. He is so upset. He's going to
take it all home with him. He's going to be
angry for 24 hours, and hopefully we'll get him reconnected
and we'll do the show tomorrow. But man, is Sal upset. Yes,
he is so mad. Dan, an emotional night for you
(01:13):
last night. You're Seahawks, you know, raising a banner. Big
win over the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I'll tell you how last night ended up feeling because
I felt that New England had a lot of momentum.
It was nice to see Taylor's boy, Mac Hollins, for
Taylor's benefit, still get the run that he deserves when
everybody's being out. But it felt like a game of
cutthroat kitchen. Did you ever watch that show on Food
Network where they have to throw different obstacles? Maybe they'll
take away like your blender, but it was like, guess what?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Now you're not going to play with Sam Darnold Patriots.
Now you're not going to have AJ Brown. You already
don't have Travion Henderson. It felt like a bit of
a watered down game when all of the pieces ended
up settling at the end, exciting and crazy, but it
was just weird on how inefficient it ended up being
offensively because of all of the offensive players that were out.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
AJ Brown, high ankle sprain. He'll be out.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It looks like maybe a couple of weeks here. Those
are tricky. Did you laugh? Because I did.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
A.J.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Brown, wide open, first half. But Drake May didn't have
a big enough arm to get him the ball. He
left Jalen Hurts to go to a quarterback who can
get him that ball, and Drake May underthrew him. They
got a pass interference penalty, but I was laughing because
Drake May felt so badly that he could not connect
with a wide open A.J. Brown who came to the
Patriots so a quarterback could connect with him on a
(02:29):
deep ball.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
How about that? And it was their best play of
the game, arguably. Like, it truly was.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
And then they score a touchdown, and no one's heard
of the guy.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
So everybody who's been waiting seven, eight months for fantasy
football are waiting for A.J.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
They're like, hey, I'm playing Ramondre Stevenson. There's no Travion Henderson.
And they throw it to someone that no one has
heard of.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yes, I was feeling really good when Darnold went out.
I was feeling great about my Seahawks not making the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
You even retweeted the tweet. Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you think 10 years from now, if a Seattle
starting quarterback goes down, that Drew Locke is still going
to be coming in?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I mean....
Speaker 4 (03:08):
The Drew Locke slander was so much that NFL insiders
were saying... Jalen Milrow can't play unless Drew Locke gets hurt. Like,
I don't know who people like we're thinking, but people
were obviously thinking in their mind, boy, Drew Locke, is
it going to work out? Who could the Seahawks turn
to instead? That was the Drew Locke slander before he
pulled off another Houdini act. He did this a couple
(03:29):
of years ago, filling in for Gino Smith against the
Eagles on Monday Night Football. I don't know why people
are questioning the greatness that is Drew Locke.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't think they questioned him in spurts in a
moment like that, like last night. They questioned him if
he has to start 16 more games, you know?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Fair enough.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I thought Mike Tomlin made a really good point in
the postgame. He said, Drew Locke got most of the
reps in the preseason games. So if this was an opportunity,
he said this would have been maybe different in week
10 or 11 where he'd been removed from game action
and wasn't getting a lot of reps in practice. But
his point was that Locke was probably in step because
of all of the preseason action there. He played a
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majority of the two games, didn't end up playing the
last game for them. But yeah, he had a lot
of work in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So I know Drew Locke wasn't part of the Seahawks
original game plan. But if you looked at the Patriots
game plan before the game and you told somebody from
the Patriots. that Mack Hollins would have more receiving yards
than A.J. Brown, Pop Douglas, and Romeo Dobbs combined, they
wouldn't like their chance to win that game, right?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
No, you would say, yeah, we're losing.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And yet, it came down to a Drake May interception
where the Patriots could have driven for the score to
win the game, or at the very least, kick a
very manageable field goal to have a chance to win
in overtime.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
That's what I thought was so interesting because Mike Vrabel
said afterwards, he's like, we want to be aggressive, I think,
and not reckless or whatever the phrase was. But if
you're New England on that time, do you want to
play for overtime? And I think most of us are like, yeah,
because they have drew lock on the other side. And again,
it's no disrespect for him, but you would think normally
on the road, let's go for the win.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Let's close this out.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
You know, if there would be a chance you needed
to go for two, we're going to go for two,
the whole deal, but they were in field goal range.
And I felt at that point that that's what made
the interception. The third interception so bad was that new
England could play for overtime and still be in a
pretty good spot to win the game, but it was
thrown away by the, by the underthrow.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Listen, I understand going for the victory.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
They had time. They had time out. So I understand
going for the victory. Your safety net there is three points.
It's the field goal. So what you can't do is
exactly what Drake May did, which is force a pass
he never should have made. Patrick McEnroe and Brock, you
are going to join us in hour number two. It
is a Think About It Thursday here. Give me the
(05:48):
imaging and let's do it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know that segment, Talk About It Tuesday on Hockman, Crowder,
and Solero? This is like that, but bigger and better.
And 48 hours later, this is Think About It Thursday.
Think About It Thursday.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
This is Taylor's attempt to counter-program a local radio show
down here in Miami.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Hockman, Solero, and Crowder. What do you have for us today, Taylor?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
So tonight's game, Niners versus Rams in Australia. Two different
styles of preparing. San Francisco arrived more than a week
early to acclimate. The Rams trained in California and arrived
in Melbourne only about a day before kickoff, trying to
keep their players closer to Pacific time. Which Australia strategy
would you guys rather have? Arrive a week early like
(06:39):
San Francisco or basically get off the plane and play
like Los Angeles?
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Wow, that's a good question. 877-99 on Fox. 877-99 on Fox.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
So I've been to Australia, and I can tell you,
having been there for two weeks, after a week, I
still wasn't properly adjusted. There is no adjusting to that.
Raheem Morris missed his birthday on the flight to Australia.
It's a long trip. I would rather just get off
the bird, play football, get back on the bird and
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go home.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
That's just me. I think that's the right strategy. Dan,
what do you think? Give me a week.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I'd love to see the sights and sounds. Get the
body clock adjusted. I'm on the 49ers plan, opposite of you,
Stu Gatz. I've never been to Australia. It's a long
flight I've seen.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, you're telling you, as someone who's been to Australia,
what I'm telling you is a week is not enough.
You're not adjusted after a week. You might think you're adjusted,
but you're not adjusted. I think too many bad things
can happen when you go a week in advance, you know?
Speaker 5 (07:41):
And you're not there to see the sights, Dan. They're
going to win a football game. I mean, what do
you think? Vacation? Promote the game.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Isn't that what Kevin Demoff or whatever was fighting one
of the fans or one of the 49er reporters about
the Rams did not do their part to spread the game,
spread the love of the game while the 49ers have
been doing all of the goodwill in Australia this past week?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah. Taylor, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Because I didn't have to think about that for long.
I'm just like, yeah, let's hop off the bird, play football,
and go home, you know?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, I think that sounds good. But if tonight we
turn on this game and Matthew Stafford gets off to
a sluggish start and the Rams look pretty bad early on,
how quickly are we going to blame Sean McVay for
this travel strategy?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
They sent people to Australia. Multiple times to test out.
That's the Rams excuse that they have. This is not
just something they came up with, that they have been
sending people over the last year back and forth to
see what their biometrics or whatever say.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And it came back is just hop off the bird
and play football.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
The result said Stugatz theory. That's what it said. Stugatz
theory is the best theory.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
So, Dan, I saw that report that they sent staffers.
No offense to the Rams, because I'm sure the Rams
know more about how to do this than me. Well,
what is sending your analytics guy supposed to do to
help prepare, play a football game?
Speaker 5 (09:07):
It's all about body adjustment. That's it. Like, how long
did it take you to adjust to the time in Australia, right?
It doesn't matter who you are. Todd feels fine.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Todd's great.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Look at Todd right now. He looks great.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Look at Todd punching numbers into his calculator in our
apartment whatsoever. Our accounting department is a lot different than
how miles Garrett's body adjusts coming off the edge against
Trent Williams.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
But what about if Neil was okay as well, you know,
or Donna, like any of those, like if they're all
still at the top of their level, I think the
numbers will show that the Rams are making the right decision.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It seems excessive to send staffers out there just to
see how their body is reacting to being in Australia.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Staffers who aren't playing football. Would you volunteer? That's the question.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Like they tell you, you got to go on a
flight and you got to immediately come back after a day.
Is that a perk or not?
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
How am I flying?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I mean, that's... I would think you would have to
fly first class because the Rams are flying first class.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Right. Right.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
You want to recreate it. Exactly. Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
A charter jet for time.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
What a ridiculous premise.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Melissa.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Melissa got on this 16 hour flight and was able
to do her social media job. That's the same thing
as Matthew Stafford having to play a football game.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Give me a break.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
The Rams said that they slept. And again, it's like
16 or 17 hours. But there's still like five or
six hours after you sleep. That you would probably wake up.
I think I probably would volunteer at least once to see,
but I don't know if you have to make like
a three trip commitment because I think that's really how
you would also get the data as well.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And Taylor, to answer your question, if the Rams lose
the game, yes, of course, we'll blame McVay for taking
them too late. And if the 49ers lose the game.
We will blame Shanahan for taking them too early.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Also, I know this was going to be too quick
of a turnaround for Aaron Donald to play in this game.
You can't make the trip with the team. They're paying
you all this money. You can't go out there and
get your pom-poms and support your teammates.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I would say if you're Aaron Donald, you can have
it any way you want to have it. And if
he said, hey, I'll sign this contract, I ain't going
to Australia. The Rams are OK with that, you know,
and why shouldn't they be? Aaron Donald is back playing football.
And if they only get it for 16 games, who cares?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
He's like Roger Clemens when he came back and Roger
Clemens was like, I'm not going on any road trips.
And the Yankees were like, well, we need this guy
to pitch. So I guess he's not going on any
road trips that he doesn't have to pitch in.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Oh, my gosh. Aaron Donald is in Georgia's box. That's
my Susan Waldman. That was a good one.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I've never done it before.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
And it wasn't that good.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I know it was awful, but that's okay. Great job.
I'll take it. Thank you. Great job. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I'd like to recreate that if we could. Can we
get Susan Walman actually saying that, Derek Cheater?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Sam Stamisi playing Drops of Me right now. That's a
great job.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I wanted to do a side-by-side comparison of the real
one and the fake one.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Because the fake one was dreadful. It was a good attempt, though.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Let's take a call here. 877-99... Oh, the caller dropped.
877-99 on Fox. That is 877-99 on Fox. How do
you feel about a game on a neutral field? I
can't stand these games. I really can't.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I have, like.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Rams 49ers is a game I should be excited for,
and yet it's hard to get excited for it, A,
after last night's game, and B, when it's being played
across the country in Australia. I mean, what kind of
ridiculousness is this? There's going to be no atmosphere. There's
going to be nothing there. It's going to be a
bunch of people just happy to be in an NFL game.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I mean, can we start playing enough with college football
starting the season in Dublin, Ireland, and enough with the
NFL starting the season, although it started last night in Seattle,
but enough with them having one of their first two
games in Melbourne, Australia.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And nobody, and I mean nobody, not a single player,
not a single staffer, not a single coach on either
of those teams wants to be in Australia right now.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
They don't.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So just a quick correction. You said across the country
in Australia. It would be across the globe.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
That's what I meant. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Other side of the world. You know, listen, we lost
the caller. We lost Sal. I'm very upset. Mikey is
not here. I have no idea what's going on. And
Dan Beyer has been forced into a co-hosting role that,
quite frankly, he wasn't expecting when he stepped in today.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I love it. I even love my Waldman. Let's hear the–
Do we have Susan Waldman? Yes, you're going to have
to do it again, though, okay? So you're going to
have to– All right, you got it. All right, so
let's hear the real one first.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
This is the real– this is what Dan was just
attempting to do.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
This is the real Susan Waldman making a call here.
Roger Clemens is in Georgia's box, and Roger Clemens is
coming back. Oh, my goodness gracious. All right, Dan. Aaron
Donald is in George's box. Goodness gracious. Thank you very much.
(14:22):
Why are you giving him applause? I look over before
Dan starts and he's like stretching his face out.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
He's getting ready for the Northeast accent, you know?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Yes, you have to. Great job.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That Yankee season, Stu, I got tickets before the season
started to two games. One of them was to that
game against the Mariners where Roger Clemens announced his comeback
from George Steinbrenner's box. And the second game that I
randomly had tickets to was against the Pirates where Roger
Clemens made his debut back at Yankee Stadium. And when
I went to Tahoe, I told Roger Clemens that story.
(14:55):
He could still what I tell you, he couldn't care less.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I told him that story and he looked right through
me because his wife had just asked me to take
a picture of him and of him and his wife
together with Lake Tahoe in the background. I was like, hey, Roger,
big Yankee fan back in 2007. This is what happened.
And he just looked at me, goes, just take the picture.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I've taken that picture. I know exactly the hotel you're
speaking of. I've been in that restaurant. They eat breakfast
there every single morning. I have taken that picture of
Roger and his wife. with the lake in the background.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I have.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I've taken that same exact picture, and he wasn't listening
to me either. I was trying to small talk him.
Did it ever dawn on you when you're talking to
Roger Clemens to ask him to come on the show,
or did you just.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Say, hey, Yanks, go Yanks, rock it? No.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Stu, when I tell you he looked right through me
when I said that, the 12-year-old in me was very
excited about to tell Roger Clemens how big of a
Yankee fan I was. And he couldn't even give him–
if I asked Roger Clemens the time of day at
that moment, he would have spit on me.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
It's an amazing quality he has where he could be
in Lake Tahoe for five days and nobody sees him.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
It's also a heck of a lot easier to not
say anything than to say, just take the picture. Like
that is another level as well.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
He might as well have snarled that.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
He gave you high heat.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
He was actively dismissing you. He could have passively done
it and just ignored it and fake that he didn't
hear it. But that is a next level jerk.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I think he misremembers. No, definitely not. After I handed
him the phone back.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
In my head, I said, I'm glad he's not in
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Really?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
You started insulting him. Just to yourself. Just to myself.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I said, I think the Hall of Fame made a
good decision.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Internally, yes.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Is Drew Locke on the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks? Put
it on the poll, Taylor.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
I think he is. Mr. Reliable, right? Drew Locke. I
think he is on the Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Backup quarterback has become such an important position in the
NFL because the quarterback position is the most important position
in sports.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
They get hit a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
They go down occasionally and they get hurt occasionally. And
I'm telling if you remember, Dan, Patrick Mahomes went down
for a drive or two. And I think it was
Damon Eward and Brock Eward's going to come on an
hour number two. But I think it was Damon Eward
who led them on a 98-yard drive.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
It was not. It was somebody else.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It was Chad Henney.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Chad Henney is on the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks. That's
who I was thinking of, yes.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
So Mount Rushmore has four spots.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Nick Foles has to be on there.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Well, Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. Jeff Hostetler probably
has to be on there.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Hostetler's the second spot. And if you have Chad Henney,
now you're looking for a fourth spot.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I think it's Drew Locke.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I feel like Gardner Minshew is our generation's backup. Like
right now, like the key is the backup quarterback. Like
Jacoby Brissett is good enough to now start for Arizona
where Minshew's, you know, backing up. I feel like Minshew
is our guy right now. But if Locke could have
this just for a couple more weeks, he could be
the guy. I mean, there is Minshew mania and all.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Drew Locke has to be careful because, you know, you
get exposed when you start multiple games in the NFL.
Just take your quick stints, get in, get out. It's
kind of like the L.A.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Rams.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Hop off the bird, play football, hop back on the
bird and go home. Drew Locke doesn't want to start
16 games.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
No, you don't want to hire him full time. Just
give him a part time job on the weekends. That's right.
What is Ricardo muttering back there? I keep hearing Ricardo
in the background.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
He is upset that we have left someone off the
Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, he keeps saying Earl Morrell.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh, he's right.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Morrell.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Morrell.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Sorry. Sorry, I don't know the 1972 Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
The only undefeated team in the history of the NFL.
Bob Greasy went down. Earl Morrell came in. Preach. And
took him all the way to the Super Bowl. I
think Greasy came back for that Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But I don't think Earl Morrill should be on the
Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I'm not even certain Hostetler should.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm just thinking of guys who come in, they go out,
they do their job, they keep you afloat, they get
you a W.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Davis Mills is the perfect example. That is the guy.
He's a great backup.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I think part of it, too, is you have to
have a good backup quarterback name, like Bubby Brister. Yeah.
That's a great backup quarterback name.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Chris Sims has told us that backup quarterback is the
best position, best job in sports. You get paid seven figures,
you hold a clipboard and nobody hits you. I mean, it's,
it's hard to argue.
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Speaker 1 (20:05):
877-99 on Fox. We have a ton of calls here. Again,
Patrick McEnroe. I finally get to talk some tennis. He's
going to join us in hour number two. Brock Eward
is going to join us in hour number two as well.
Does a local show. The biggest show in Seattle. Looking
forward to speaking to him about what transpired last night
and the status of Sam Darnold.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Let's go out to John, who's in Iowa today. John,
go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
How are you guys doing this afternoon?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Good.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
How are you, John? Good.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Good. say, you know, the whole, the, the, the Mount
Rushmore backup quarterbacks, you know, this guy didn't, didn't win
a championship, but I'm wondering if Frank Reich is worth
throwing into that conversation that he authored one of the biggest, well,
at the time it was the biggest comeback in NFL history.
(20:54):
And actually I think it was only recently eclipsed by
my Minnesota Vikings, maybe two or three seasons ago when
they came back massively against, I think it was the
Indianapolis Colts. But that game that Frank Wright.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Came in, masterful.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yes, automatically puts them on the Mount Rushmore of backup
quarterbacks just for that game and that game alone. I
believe it was a wild card game. They were down
big to the Oilers going into the second half. He
came in, he brought them back. That team went back
to the Super Bowl and, of course, lost. But Frank
Wright is deserving, Dan, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
And I also think that his quarterbacking career has followed
his coaching career better as an offensive coordinator than as
a head coach.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Frank Reich is your normal starter. He's good as the backup.
Maybe you don't want him as the head coach, but sure.
Have him run an offense and he'll put that to
test this year with the Jets. So if the Jets
have any success, the theory ends up handing out.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
All right.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
It is locked in concrete in ink.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Done.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
A movable object versus the unstoppable force.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Something has to give. Ricardo, we'll get back to the
calls in a second. He has not stopped during the
break with Earl Morrill. And perhaps we should reconsider this.
He did help the Dolphins to an undefeated season in
the Super Bowl. What else do you have for us, Ricardo,
as his biggest fan?
Speaker 9 (22:18):
Well, just looking him up on FootballReference.com, in 1968, he
went 13-1 as the backup quarterback at Baltimore for Johnny Unitas.
And then he actually played in the Super Bowl that
Namath beat you guys.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
So he's lost one game essentially as a starter. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
As a starter, he went 63 and 36 in his career.
And these are backup quarterback stats right here. 161 touchdowns
and 148 interceptions.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, but what I'm saying is he came in for
Johnny Unitas. They lost a single game. He came in
for Bob Greasy. They didn't lose any games. That's right.
So if you don't start him, that's the key. And
our moral might have to be in consideration. Mount Rushmore
backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
And Kurt Warner is someone who was a backup quarterback,
but he was just disguised as one. He was a
Hall of Fame quarterback, but he just ended up. So
even though he started as a backup quarterback, some of
these guys do, but they're just not in that backup realm.
It's a special sort of group. You either have it
or you don't.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah. Let's go to Kurt, who's in Nevada today. Kurt,
go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Hey, one of the greats who's also a field goal
kicker and had a single-bar face mask, George Blanda.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Oh, yes, Blanda. Back when football was football, right?
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
All right, thank you for the call. George Blanda. Listen,
you never know what's going to get the phones ringing.
And I had no idea that Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks.
And we should be playing the sound of Taylor saying
black up quarterback on Martin Luther King Day.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
But somehow we haven't gotten to it yet. But this
is the thing. Backup quarterback.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Backup quarterback. Black backup quarterback. No disrespect to George Blanda.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
What about backup quarterback?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
When you say that, you're about to disrespect someone, just
so you know.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I don't respect anybody whose helmet looks like something they
bought from Toys R Us. It looks like such a
cheap helmet. That's what they were wearing back in the day?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
A one-step evolution from the leather helmet, what George Blanda
was wearing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I wouldn't even say back in the day. Joe Theismann
wore that helmet in the 80s.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
He did. Single bar.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I'm looking at a picture of George Blanda playing quarterback.
I'm assuming he's like 29 in this photo. He looks
like he's 45.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
He played until he was 48.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
He did. It was a different time.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
That's a testament to how bad football was back then.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
How old was Brady? Brady, technically a backup Brady, by
the way, to Drew Bledsoe.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Fair enough. Yes, the only quarterback on both Mount Rushmore's.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
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Speaker 1 (25:16):
Brock, you are going to join us in about 10
minutes or so. Patrick McEnroe, I finally get to talk
some tennis.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
U.S.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Open has been great. Taylor and Mikey A. will not
indulge me. So therefore, I had to go to my
friend Patrick McEnroe to talk some U.S.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Open tennis.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
We do have a call here, 877-99 on Fox. Again,
Brock Eward, Patrick McEnroe coming up later this hour. Taylor
just said to me in my headphones right before we
got started, if Cooper Rush starts for the Falcons... I
am not turning that game on.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
If my two options were watch tennis or watch Falcons
with Cooper Rush against the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Then I'm with you, Stu. I'm choosing tennis every time.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
The only reason you're tuning into the Falcons because they
have a talented team and good players at the skill position.
And Bijan Robinson was on with us earlier this week.
But you want to see if Tua could turn it around.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, I have no interest in watching Cooper Rush try
to keep them afloat.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
A rush to change the channel. That's what it would be.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
No, he's flatly saying it's never landing on his television.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Won't even get quad box consideration.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Let's go out to Michael, who's in Virginia today. Michael,
go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
Hey, Steve Dodge. First time caller. Just want to appreciate
you're doing a very good job. I love the show.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Thank you, buddy. Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
So, this backup... One of the reasons why he's in
the Hall of Fame, not the reason why, there's many
reasons why he was above it, but one of the
reasons why he's in the Hall of Fame was because,
and this guy is Steve Young, he was backing up
Joe Montana for like one or two seasons before he
became the starter. And he got a ring.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right, but I don't recall Young ever coming in as
a true backup. I feel like Young was just waiting
his turn until Montana left.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Is that fair?
Speaker 8 (27:05):
Yeah, but it was like one or two, maybe three seasons.
He was just there as backup. And he also, he
was the highest paid backup at the time when he
was backing up the, you know, the all-time great Joe Montana.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
If we count Steve Young, it feels like we would
almost have to count Aaron Rodgers backing up Brett Favre
for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Or Brady backing up Bledsoe for that first season, right?
It's got to be a true backup, a guy who's
just not good enough to start, but when he comes in,
he gets the job done.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
A backup quarterback's name has to make you laugh a little,
like Charlie Batch.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Perfect. Yes, yes, Charlie Batch. Jason Garrett.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I mean, who's benefited more from being a backup quarterback
with the Cowboys than Jason Garrett?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Nobody has.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
He parlayed it into head coaching jobs and a position
at NBC Sports.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Taylor feels like Jason Garrett is. Do you agree with this, Dan?
Why don't you give him your Jason Garrett take here?
It's laugh out loud funny.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Jason Garrett.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Jason Garrett reminds me of an alien who's dressed in
a human suit.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
And when he gets back to the hotel, he unzips
his skin. What a long day.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Really fooled the humans today.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Dan is a professional broadcaster and you are one, the
only one on this show. How'd you feel about Tomlin's
performance at.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
NBC last night? Solid. I think he's good. Really? Yep. Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I have him coaching the Jets by week five. Brock,
you are going to join us coming up next.
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, congratulations. No one's paying attention. Football season has started.
We have let an angry Sal Licata go. His microphone
just wasn't working. He is so upset. He's going to
take it all home with him. He's going to be
angry for 24 hours, and hopefully we'll get him reconnected
and we'll do the show tomorrow. But man, is Sal upset. Yes,
he is so mad. Dan, an emotional night for you
(01:13):
last night. You're Seahawks, you know, raising a banner. Big
win over the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I'll tell you how last night ended up feeling because
I felt that New England had a lot of momentum.
It was nice to see Taylor's boy, Mac Hollins, for
Taylor's benefit, still get the run that he deserves when
everybody's being out. But it felt like a game of
cutthroat kitchen. Did you ever watch that show on Food
Network where they have to throw different obstacles? Maybe they'll
take away like your blender, but it was like, guess what?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Now you're not going to play with Sam Darnold Patriots.
Now you're not going to have AJ Brown. You already
don't have Travion Henderson. It felt like a bit of
a watered down game when all of the pieces ended
up settling at the end, exciting and crazy, but it
was just weird on how inefficient it ended up being
offensively because of all of the offensive players that were out.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
AJ Brown, high ankle sprain. He'll be out.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It looks like maybe a couple of weeks here. Those
are tricky. Did you laugh? Because I did.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
A.J.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Brown, wide open, first half. But Drake May didn't have
a big enough arm to get him the ball. He
left Jalen Hurts to go to a quarterback who can
get him that ball, and Drake May underthrew him. They
got a pass interference penalty, but I was laughing because
Drake May felt so badly that he could not connect
with a wide open A.J. Brown who came to the
Patriots so a quarterback could connect with him on a
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deep ball.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
How about that? And it was their best play of
the game, arguably. Like, it truly was.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
And then they score a touchdown, and no one's heard
of the guy.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
So everybody who's been waiting seven, eight months for fantasy
football are waiting for A.J.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
They're like, hey, I'm playing Ramondre Stevenson. There's no Travion Henderson.
And they throw it to someone that no one has
heard of.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yes, I was feeling really good when Darnold went out.
I was feeling great about my Seahawks not making the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
You even retweeted the tweet. Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you think 10 years from now, if a Seattle
starting quarterback goes down, that Drew Locke is still going
to be coming in?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I mean....
Speaker 4 (03:08):
The Drew Locke slander was so much that NFL insiders
were saying... Jalen Milrow can't play unless Drew Locke gets hurt. Like,
I don't know who people like we're thinking, but people
were obviously thinking in their mind, boy, Drew Locke, is
it going to work out? Who could the Seahawks turn
to instead? That was the Drew Locke slander before he
pulled off another Houdini act. He did this a couple
(03:29):
of years ago, filling in for Gino Smith against the
Eagles on Monday Night Football. I don't know why people
are questioning the greatness that is Drew Locke.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't think they questioned him in spurts in a
moment like that, like last night. They questioned him if
he has to start 16 more games, you know?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Fair enough.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I thought Mike Tomlin made a really good point in
the postgame. He said, Drew Locke got most of the
reps in the preseason games. So if this was an opportunity,
he said this would have been maybe different in week
10 or 11 where he'd been removed from game action
and wasn't getting a lot of reps in practice. But
his point was that Locke was probably in step because
of all of the preseason action there. He played a
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majority of the two games, didn't end up playing the
last game for them. But yeah, he had a lot
of work in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So I know Drew Locke wasn't part of the Seahawks
original game plan. But if you looked at the Patriots
game plan before the game and you told somebody from
the Patriots. that Mack Hollins would have more receiving yards
than A.J. Brown, Pop Douglas, and Romeo Dobbs combined, they
wouldn't like their chance to win that game, right?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
No, you would say, yeah, we're losing.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And yet, it came down to a Drake May interception
where the Patriots could have driven for the score to
win the game, or at the very least, kick a
very manageable field goal to have a chance to win
in overtime.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
That's what I thought was so interesting because Mike Vrabel
said afterwards, he's like, we want to be aggressive, I think,
and not reckless or whatever the phrase was. But if
you're New England on that time, do you want to
play for overtime? And I think most of us are like, yeah,
because they have drew lock on the other side. And again,
it's no disrespect for him, but you would think normally
on the road, let's go for the win.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Let's close this out.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
You know, if there would be a chance you needed
to go for two, we're going to go for two,
the whole deal, but they were in field goal range.
And I felt at that point that that's what made
the interception. The third interception so bad was that new
England could play for overtime and still be in a
pretty good spot to win the game, but it was
thrown away by the, by the underthrow.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Listen, I understand going for the victory.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
They had time. They had time out. So I understand
going for the victory. Your safety net there is three points.
It's the field goal. So what you can't do is
exactly what Drake May did, which is force a pass
he never should have made. Patrick McEnroe and Brock, you
are going to join us in hour number two. It
is a Think About It Thursday here. Give me the
(05:48):
imaging and let's do it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know that segment, Talk About It Tuesday on Hockman, Crowder,
and Solero? This is like that, but bigger and better.
And 48 hours later, this is Think About It Thursday.
Think About It Thursday.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
This is Taylor's attempt to counter-program a local radio show
down here in Miami.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Hockman, Solero, and Crowder. What do you have for us today, Taylor?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
So tonight's game, Niners versus Rams in Australia. Two different
styles of preparing. San Francisco arrived more than a week
early to acclimate. The Rams trained in California and arrived
in Melbourne only about a day before kickoff, trying to
keep their players closer to Pacific time. Which Australia strategy
would you guys rather have? Arrive a week early like
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San Francisco or basically get off the plane and play
like Los Angeles?
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Wow, that's a good question. 877-99 on Fox. 877-99 on Fox.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
So I've been to Australia, and I can tell you,
having been there for two weeks, after a week, I
still wasn't properly adjusted. There is no adjusting to that.
Raheem Morris missed his birthday on the flight to Australia.
It's a long trip. I would rather just get off
the bird, play football, get back on the bird and
(07:12):
go home.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
That's just me. I think that's the right strategy. Dan,
what do you think? Give me a week.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I'd love to see the sights and sounds. Get the
body clock adjusted. I'm on the 49ers plan, opposite of you,
Stu Gatz. I've never been to Australia. It's a long
flight I've seen.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, you're telling you, as someone who's been to Australia,
what I'm telling you is a week is not enough.
You're not adjusted after a week. You might think you're adjusted,
but you're not adjusted. I think too many bad things
can happen when you go a week in advance, you know?
Speaker 5 (07:41):
And you're not there to see the sights, Dan. They're
going to win a football game. I mean, what do
you think? Vacation? Promote the game.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Isn't that what Kevin Demoff or whatever was fighting one
of the fans or one of the 49er reporters about
the Rams did not do their part to spread the game,
spread the love of the game while the 49ers have
been doing all of the goodwill in Australia this past week?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah. Taylor, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Because I didn't have to think about that for long.
I'm just like, yeah, let's hop off the bird, play football,
and go home, you know?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, I think that sounds good. But if tonight we
turn on this game and Matthew Stafford gets off to
a sluggish start and the Rams look pretty bad early on,
how quickly are we going to blame Sean McVay for
this travel strategy?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
They sent people to Australia. Multiple times to test out.
That's the Rams excuse that they have. This is not
just something they came up with, that they have been
sending people over the last year back and forth to
see what their biometrics or whatever say.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And it came back is just hop off the bird
and play football.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
The result said Stugatz theory. That's what it said. Stugatz
theory is the best theory.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
So, Dan, I saw that report that they sent staffers.
No offense to the Rams, because I'm sure the Rams
know more about how to do this than me. Well,
what is sending your analytics guy supposed to do to
help prepare, play a football game?
Speaker 5 (09:07):
It's all about body adjustment. That's it. Like, how long
did it take you to adjust to the time in Australia, right?
It doesn't matter who you are. Todd feels fine.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Todd's great.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Look at Todd right now. He looks great.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Look at Todd punching numbers into his calculator in our
apartment whatsoever. Our accounting department is a lot different than
how miles Garrett's body adjusts coming off the edge against
Trent Williams.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
But what about if Neil was okay as well, you know,
or Donna, like any of those, like if they're all
still at the top of their level, I think the
numbers will show that the Rams are making the right decision.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It seems excessive to send staffers out there just to
see how their body is reacting to being in Australia.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Staffers who aren't playing football. Would you volunteer? That's the question.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Like they tell you, you got to go on a
flight and you got to immediately come back after a day.
Is that a perk or not?
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
How am I flying?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I mean, that's... I would think you would have to
fly first class because the Rams are flying first class.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Right. Right.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
You want to recreate it. Exactly. Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
A charter jet for time.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
What a ridiculous premise.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Melissa.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Melissa got on this 16 hour flight and was able
to do her social media job. That's the same thing
as Matthew Stafford having to play a football game.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Give me a break.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
The Rams said that they slept. And again, it's like
16 or 17 hours. But there's still like five or
six hours after you sleep. That you would probably wake up.
I think I probably would volunteer at least once to see,
but I don't know if you have to make like
a three trip commitment because I think that's really how
you would also get the data as well.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And Taylor, to answer your question, if the Rams lose
the game, yes, of course, we'll blame McVay for taking
them too late. And if the 49ers lose the game.
We will blame Shanahan for taking them too early.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Also, I know this was going to be too quick
of a turnaround for Aaron Donald to play in this game.
You can't make the trip with the team. They're paying
you all this money. You can't go out there and
get your pom-poms and support your teammates.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I would say if you're Aaron Donald, you can have
it any way you want to have it. And if
he said, hey, I'll sign this contract, I ain't going
to Australia. The Rams are OK with that, you know,
and why shouldn't they be? Aaron Donald is back playing football.
And if they only get it for 16 games, who cares?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
He's like Roger Clemens when he came back and Roger
Clemens was like, I'm not going on any road trips.
And the Yankees were like, well, we need this guy
to pitch. So I guess he's not going on any
road trips that he doesn't have to pitch in.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Oh, my gosh. Aaron Donald is in Georgia's box. That's
my Susan Waldman. That was a good one.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I've never done it before.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
And it wasn't that good.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I know it was awful, but that's okay. Great job.
I'll take it. Thank you. Great job. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I'd like to recreate that if we could. Can we
get Susan Walman actually saying that, Derek Cheater?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Sam Stamisi playing Drops of Me right now. That's a
great job.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I wanted to do a side-by-side comparison of the real
one and the fake one.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Because the fake one was dreadful. It was a good attempt, though.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Let's take a call here. 877-99... Oh, the caller dropped.
877-99 on Fox. That is 877-99 on Fox. How do
you feel about a game on a neutral field? I
can't stand these games. I really can't.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I have, like.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Rams 49ers is a game I should be excited for,
and yet it's hard to get excited for it, A,
after last night's game, and B, when it's being played
across the country in Australia. I mean, what kind of
ridiculousness is this? There's going to be no atmosphere. There's
going to be nothing there. It's going to be a
bunch of people just happy to be in an NFL game.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I mean, can we start playing enough with college football
starting the season in Dublin, Ireland, and enough with the
NFL starting the season, although it started last night in Seattle,
but enough with them having one of their first two
games in Melbourne, Australia.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And nobody, and I mean nobody, not a single player,
not a single staffer, not a single coach on either
of those teams wants to be in Australia right now.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
They don't.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So just a quick correction. You said across the country
in Australia. It would be across the globe.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
That's what I meant. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Other side of the world. You know, listen, we lost
the caller. We lost Sal. I'm very upset. Mikey is
not here. I have no idea what's going on. And
Dan Beyer has been forced into a co-hosting role that,
quite frankly, he wasn't expecting when he stepped in today.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I love it. I even love my Waldman. Let's hear the–
Do we have Susan Waldman? Yes, you're going to have
to do it again, though, okay? So you're going to
have to– All right, you got it. All right, so
let's hear the real one first.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
This is the real– this is what Dan was just
attempting to do.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
This is the real Susan Waldman making a call here.
Roger Clemens is in Georgia's box, and Roger Clemens is
coming back. Oh, my goodness gracious. All right, Dan. Aaron
Donald is in George's box. Goodness gracious. Thank you very much.
(14:22):
Why are you giving him applause? I look over before
Dan starts and he's like stretching his face out.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
He's getting ready for the Northeast accent, you know?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Yes, you have to. Great job.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That Yankee season, Stu, I got tickets before the season
started to two games. One of them was to that
game against the Mariners where Roger Clemens announced his comeback
from George Steinbrenner's box. And the second game that I
randomly had tickets to was against the Pirates where Roger
Clemens made his debut back at Yankee Stadium. And when
I went to Tahoe, I told Roger Clemens that story.
(14:55):
He could still what I tell you, he couldn't care less.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I told him that story and he looked right through
me because his wife had just asked me to take
a picture of him and of him and his wife
together with Lake Tahoe in the background. I was like, hey, Roger,
big Yankee fan back in 2007. This is what happened.
And he just looked at me, goes, just take the picture.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I've taken that picture. I know exactly the hotel you're
speaking of. I've been in that restaurant. They eat breakfast
there every single morning. I have taken that picture of
Roger and his wife. with the lake in the background.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I have.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I've taken that same exact picture, and he wasn't listening
to me either. I was trying to small talk him.
Did it ever dawn on you when you're talking to
Roger Clemens to ask him to come on the show,
or did you just.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Say, hey, Yanks, go Yanks, rock it? No.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Stu, when I tell you he looked right through me
when I said that, the 12-year-old in me was very
excited about to tell Roger Clemens how big of a
Yankee fan I was. And he couldn't even give him–
if I asked Roger Clemens the time of day at
that moment, he would have spit on me.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
It's an amazing quality he has where he could be
in Lake Tahoe for five days and nobody sees him.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
It's also a heck of a lot easier to not
say anything than to say, just take the picture. Like
that is another level as well.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
He might as well have snarled that.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
He gave you high heat.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
He was actively dismissing you. He could have passively done
it and just ignored it and fake that he didn't
hear it. But that is a next level jerk.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I think he misremembers. No, definitely not. After I handed
him the phone back.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
In my head, I said, I'm glad he's not in
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Really?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
You started insulting him. Just to yourself. Just to myself.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I said, I think the Hall of Fame made a
good decision.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Internally, yes.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Is Drew Locke on the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks? Put
it on the poll, Taylor.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
I think he is. Mr. Reliable, right? Drew Locke. I
think he is on the Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Backup quarterback has become such an important position in the
NFL because the quarterback position is the most important position
in sports.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
They get hit a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
They go down occasionally and they get hurt occasionally. And
I'm telling if you remember, Dan, Patrick Mahomes went down
for a drive or two. And I think it was
Damon Eward and Brock Eward's going to come on an
hour number two. But I think it was Damon Eward
who led them on a 98-yard drive.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
It was not. It was somebody else.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It was Chad Henney.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Chad Henney is on the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks. That's
who I was thinking of, yes.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
So Mount Rushmore has four spots.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Nick Foles has to be on there.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Well, Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. Jeff Hostetler probably
has to be on there.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Hostetler's the second spot. And if you have Chad Henney,
now you're looking for a fourth spot.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I think it's Drew Locke.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I feel like Gardner Minshew is our generation's backup. Like
right now, like the key is the backup quarterback. Like
Jacoby Brissett is good enough to now start for Arizona
where Minshew's, you know, backing up. I feel like Minshew
is our guy right now. But if Locke could have
this just for a couple more weeks, he could be
the guy. I mean, there is Minshew mania and all.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Drew Locke has to be careful because, you know, you
get exposed when you start multiple games in the NFL.
Just take your quick stints, get in, get out. It's
kind of like the L.A.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Rams.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Hop off the bird, play football, hop back on the
bird and go home. Drew Locke doesn't want to start
16 games.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
No, you don't want to hire him full time. Just
give him a part time job on the weekends. That's right.
What is Ricardo muttering back there? I keep hearing Ricardo
in the background.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
He is upset that we have left someone off the
Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, he keeps saying Earl Morrell.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh, he's right.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Morrell.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Morrell.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Sorry. Sorry, I don't know the 1972 Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
The only undefeated team in the history of the NFL.
Bob Greasy went down. Earl Morrell came in. Preach. And
took him all the way to the Super Bowl. I
think Greasy came back for that Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But I don't think Earl Morrill should be on the
Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I'm not even certain Hostetler should.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm just thinking of guys who come in, they go out,
they do their job, they keep you afloat, they get
you a W.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Davis Mills is the perfect example. That is the guy.
He's a great backup.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I think part of it, too, is you have to
have a good backup quarterback name, like Bubby Brister. Yeah.
That's a great backup quarterback name.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Chris Sims has told us that backup quarterback is the
best position, best job in sports. You get paid seven figures,
you hold a clipboard and nobody hits you. I mean, it's,
it's hard to argue.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
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Speaker 1 (20:05):
877-99 on Fox. We have a ton of calls here. Again,
Patrick McEnroe. I finally get to talk some tennis. He's
going to join us in hour number two. Brock Eward
is going to join us in hour number two as well.
Does a local show. The biggest show in Seattle. Looking
forward to speaking to him about what transpired last night
and the status of Sam Darnold.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Let's go out to John, who's in Iowa today. John,
go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
How are you guys doing this afternoon?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Good.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
How are you, John? Good.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Good. say, you know, the whole, the, the, the Mount
Rushmore backup quarterbacks, you know, this guy didn't, didn't win
a championship, but I'm wondering if Frank Reich is worth
throwing into that conversation that he authored one of the biggest, well,
at the time it was the biggest comeback in NFL history.
(20:54):
And actually I think it was only recently eclipsed by
my Minnesota Vikings, maybe two or three seasons ago when
they came back massively against, I think it was the
Indianapolis Colts. But that game that Frank Wright.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Came in, masterful.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yes, automatically puts them on the Mount Rushmore of backup
quarterbacks just for that game and that game alone. I
believe it was a wild card game. They were down
big to the Oilers going into the second half. He
came in, he brought them back. That team went back
to the Super Bowl and, of course, lost. But Frank
Wright is deserving, Dan, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
And I also think that his quarterbacking career has followed
his coaching career better as an offensive coordinator than as
a head coach.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Frank Reich is your normal starter. He's good as the backup.
Maybe you don't want him as the head coach, but sure.
Have him run an offense and he'll put that to
test this year with the Jets. So if the Jets
have any success, the theory ends up handing out.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
All right.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
It is locked in concrete in ink.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Done.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
A movable object versus the unstoppable force.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Something has to give. Ricardo, we'll get back to the
calls in a second. He has not stopped during the
break with Earl Morrill. And perhaps we should reconsider this.
He did help the Dolphins to an undefeated season in
the Super Bowl. What else do you have for us, Ricardo,
as his biggest fan?
Speaker 9 (22:18):
Well, just looking him up on FootballReference.com, in 1968, he
went 13-1 as the backup quarterback at Baltimore for Johnny Unitas.
And then he actually played in the Super Bowl that
Namath beat you guys.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
So he's lost one game essentially as a starter. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
As a starter, he went 63 and 36 in his career.
And these are backup quarterback stats right here. 161 touchdowns
and 148 interceptions.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, but what I'm saying is he came in for
Johnny Unitas. They lost a single game. He came in
for Bob Greasy. They didn't lose any games. That's right.
So if you don't start him, that's the key. And
our moral might have to be in consideration. Mount Rushmore
backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
And Kurt Warner is someone who was a backup quarterback,
but he was just disguised as one. He was a
Hall of Fame quarterback, but he just ended up. So
even though he started as a backup quarterback, some of
these guys do, but they're just not in that backup realm.
It's a special sort of group. You either have it
or you don't.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah. Let's go to Kurt, who's in Nevada today. Kurt,
go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Hey, one of the greats who's also a field goal
kicker and had a single-bar face mask, George Blanda.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Oh, yes, Blanda. Back when football was football, right?
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
All right, thank you for the call. George Blanda. Listen,
you never know what's going to get the phones ringing.
And I had no idea that Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks.
And we should be playing the sound of Taylor saying
black up quarterback on Martin Luther King Day.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
But somehow we haven't gotten to it yet. But this
is the thing. Backup quarterback.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Backup quarterback. Black backup quarterback. No disrespect to George Blanda.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
What about backup quarterback?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
When you say that, you're about to disrespect someone, just
so you know.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I don't respect anybody whose helmet looks like something they
bought from Toys R Us. It looks like such a
cheap helmet. That's what they were wearing back in the day?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
A one-step evolution from the leather helmet, what George Blanda
was wearing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I wouldn't even say back in the day. Joe Theismann
wore that helmet in the 80s.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
He did. Single bar.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I'm looking at a picture of George Blanda playing quarterback.
I'm assuming he's like 29 in this photo. He looks
like he's 45.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
He played until he was 48.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
He did. It was a different time.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
That's a testament to how bad football was back then.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
How old was Brady? Brady, technically a backup Brady, by
the way, to Drew Bledsoe.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Fair enough. Yes, the only quarterback on both Mount Rushmore's.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
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Company live weekdays at 3 p.m. Eastern, 12 p.m. Pacific
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Speaker 1 (25:16):
Brock, you are going to join us in about 10
minutes or so. Patrick McEnroe, I finally get to talk
some tennis.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
U.S.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Open has been great. Taylor and Mikey A. will not
indulge me. So therefore, I had to go to my
friend Patrick McEnroe to talk some U.S.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Open tennis.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
We do have a call here, 877-99 on Fox. Again,
Brock Eward, Patrick McEnroe coming up later this hour. Taylor
just said to me in my headphones right before we
got started, if Cooper Rush starts for the Falcons... I
am not turning that game on.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
If my two options were watch tennis or watch Falcons
with Cooper Rush against the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Then I'm with you, Stu. I'm choosing tennis every time.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
The only reason you're tuning into the Falcons because they
have a talented team and good players at the skill position.
And Bijan Robinson was on with us earlier this week.
But you want to see if Tua could turn it around.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, I have no interest in watching Cooper Rush try
to keep them afloat.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
A rush to change the channel. That's what it would be.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
No, he's flatly saying it's never landing on his television.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Won't even get quad box consideration.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Let's go out to Michael, who's in Virginia today. Michael,
go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
Hey, Steve Dodge. First time caller. Just want to appreciate
you're doing a very good job. I love the show.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Thank you, buddy. Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
So, this backup... One of the reasons why he's in
the Hall of Fame, not the reason why, there's many
reasons why he was above it, but one of the
reasons why he's in the Hall of Fame was because,
and this guy is Steve Young, he was backing up
Joe Montana for like one or two seasons before he
became the starter. And he got a ring.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right, but I don't recall Young ever coming in as
a true backup. I feel like Young was just waiting
his turn until Montana left.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Is that fair?
Speaker 8 (27:05):
Yeah, but it was like one or two, maybe three seasons.
He was just there as backup. And he also, he
was the highest paid backup at the time when he
was backing up the, you know, the all-time great Joe Montana.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
If we count Steve Young, it feels like we would
almost have to count Aaron Rodgers backing up Brett Favre
for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Or Brady backing up Bledsoe for that first season, right?
It's got to be a true backup, a guy who's
just not good enough to start, but when he comes in,
he gets the job done.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
A backup quarterback's name has to make you laugh a little,
like Charlie Batch.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Perfect. Yes, yes, Charlie Batch. Jason Garrett.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I mean, who's benefited more from being a backup quarterback
with the Cowboys than Jason Garrett?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Nobody has.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
He parlayed it into head coaching jobs and a position
at NBC Sports.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Taylor feels like Jason Garrett is. Do you agree with this, Dan?
Why don't you give him your Jason Garrett take here?
It's laugh out loud funny.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Jason Garrett.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Jason Garrett reminds me of an alien who's dressed in
a human suit.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
And when he gets back to the hotel, he unzips
his skin. What a long day.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Really fooled the humans today.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Dan is a professional broadcaster and you are one, the
only one on this show. How'd you feel about Tomlin's
performance at.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
NBC last night? Solid. I think he's good. Really? Yep. Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I have him coaching the Jets by week five. Brock,
you are going to join us coming up next.
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