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January 19, 2026 47 mins

Stugotz and Company launch a brand new show on FOX Sports Radio as they discuss the Sean McDermott firing in Buffalo and other big news coming off of the NFL Division Round weekend.

Advan Virk joins for We Can Observations.

Stugotz and Company weigh in on the Patriots-Texans game and who the biggest loser of the NFL weekend was.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Taylor put it on the poll.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Please if Jared Stidham is playing in the Super Bowl,
will you be watching, Mikey A will you be watching?

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
But not intently?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, not intently. That's a very good answer right there.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
It is to Goatza Company, our first show. What a
day to start a national radio show, Huh is he?

Speaker 5 (00:31):
I mean on the holiday?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, at my daughter's birthday, both of them twins. I
was about to ask for It is to Gotz to Company.
I have never Mikey listen. I don't know what to
do here, because we should explain ourselves how we got here,
who we are, what we're doing, why we're here, and
all that. But there's so many stories going on in sports,

(00:55):
and I combine that with the fact that Taylor I
have never seen him this stressed out in my entire life. Now,
we've been doing this show for the most part, I
don't know, five or six months now, ste Gotts and Company.
This is to godtson Company Live. We've been doing it
from our dining rooms essentially from home. But here we

(01:15):
are in a radio studio, and I am glad to
be back in a radio studio, and I am glad
to do this before I get to Taylor eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox, I want to hear from you.
Oh felt so good. I can't wait to take a
phone call. But Taylor, what is going on here today?
I know it's live, I know it's a radio station.

(01:37):
I know engineers are kind of buzzing around here, but
you're usually very cool, calm and collected. I have never
seen you this stressed out in your life. Okay, to
his credit, he's still cool.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
Yeah, he's still kind of collected, definitely not com.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
His name is Wade Jones.

Speaker 7 (01:59):
I am so envious of how Stu Gotts just shows
up anywhere he goes, yeah, and just like, hey, I'm
just gonna figure it out last second. What he doesn't
realize is the I'm gonna figure out last second is
just Taylor filling in the gaps, being like Taylor's gonna
figure it all out, and then I'm just gonna show
up and be like, hey, just turn the mic on
and I can just talk about anything.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I gotta be honest. I've done too much work today.

Speaker 6 (02:21):
I mean I wunked in well before Stu Gotts, by
the way, Yes, and I see nervous tailor. He's running around,
He's got engineers everywhere. There's more fish on the TV
than there are Fox Sports logos. Okay, and then I
hear Stu Gotts come in. Yeah, just kind of assuming
it's it's like it's a workday that has happened for

(02:42):
three years straight. Yes, and says do we have a
sound sheet? I don't even know if we know where
the sound is coming from yet.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
I think it's coming from LA, but I'm not one
hundred percent certain. We will figure this out together the
entire show. By the way, and thank you to Fox
Sports Radio for having us an. iHeartMedia at Scott Shapiro
and all the great people who helped put this day
together for us, not for me, but for us. But
I do need a sound cheap because I want to

(03:13):
play Sean McDermott saying I'm doing this for Buffalo the
entire day because it's a laugh out loud funny. That
was the sound of a man who knew he was
about to get fired by the Buffalo Bills. So your
MIC's not on the topic cheap.

Speaker 7 (03:31):
I had a catch or not a catch in Buffalo
Bills game, right, because I think that's Sean McDermott was like,
I'm gonna go to bat for Buffalo right now because
I know my seats hot and they what are they
all revved up about right now? Whether or not Brandon
Cooks caught that ball.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I have no idea what's a catch or what's not.
In the NFL, I don't. I have no idea what's
the catch. I'm not certain the referees have any sort
of idea. But that game, to me, was not about
a catch. It wasn't even about Shaw McDermott. It was
about a guy that we call a generational quarterback in
Josh Allen, not getting it done. You cannot call yourself

(04:08):
a generational quarterback. And perhaps I'm being unfair to Josh
because to my knowledge, he's never called himself a generational quarterback.
But we do it all the time and have four
turnovers and then not be able to hit your tight
end who's wide open with a chance to win the game.
You can't do it.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
So true, let me just put the catch non catch
thing to bed, right, because I understand that, let's say
twenty years ago, thirty years ago, that'd be called the catch.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
We move on right, Since then, they have.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Made very specific rules for what it catches. If surviving
the ground on a catch is something we are just
all decided we're okay with.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Okay, that's the rule.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
It's a little bit harder to make a catch, but fine,
that's the rule. Then surviving the defensive player is easily
something that you have to be okay with. Right if
you are coming to the ground that you cannot reel
that in because the defensive player has rattled it out
of your hands before you survive the ground. It is
cut and dry, not a catch.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Don't show me the.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
Still frame with cooks down and the defender not touching
the ball yet or not having the ball yet, because
that is just a still frame and movement like that
is not the exact same thing.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
So that is nothing to cry about. It's just a picture.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
It is amazing to me that we had two amazing
games all time games first game, last game with two
I guess if you want to call those games the bread,
the meat wasn't very good inside the sandwich. The two
games in the middle were not great, but you have
those two games, you have referees botching calls, you have

(05:48):
Josh Allen with yet another season ending, sad, sad press conference.
What's a tired of those? I gotta be honest with you,
like someone blow them out in the first half so
we has time to process it.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
I don't be so upset, right, but I'm crying half.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
And we got a National championship game tonight, fifteen miles
from these studios. Well, check in with a bear from
the parking lot. He'll be out there. He's been there
for a couple of hours. And yet somehow the transaction
again overtakes the actual action on the field, where all
of that stuff I have notes, I'm ready to do
the show, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere,

(06:27):
Sean McDermott is fired by the Buffalo Bills. Whether or
not you think Sean McDermott should have been fired, and
I do, is besides the point. The larger point is
I cannot believe that story a coach being fired takes
over the headlines on a day like today. Is he

(06:47):
a daylight today?

Speaker 6 (06:48):
It's not a three time Super Bowl winning coach. It's
a coach who is largely underachieved since he's been with Buffalo,
and like you said, like the idea of him at
this being shocking, it's not really. I wouldn't be shocked
if I heard it two years ago, last year, or
this year. But now this is the interesting part to
me too, Guys. It's not so much whether Sean McDermott

(07:11):
is was a good coach. It's are we going to
find out that it was all his fault this whole
time and that Josh Allen has been held back?

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Or is it the other way rount?

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (07:23):
You know a Sean McDermott sort of.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
Elevated Josh and we maybe saw the best of Josh
Allen and that you cannot sort of coach these decision
making errors out of him, because, whether you like it
or not, the guy turns the ball over at horrendous
times still and just because we love the way he plays,

(07:44):
just because we love the rocket arm, the escapability, and
the fact that he has sort of overcome his poor
reputation at least when he was drafted and that first
year to now become the guy that everybody loves as
the MVP. But if Jalen Hurts, has that exact same
game and gets eliminated from the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
He's getting murdered publicly.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
And I think Josh Allen gets a little bit of
slack because we like the way he plays and we
feel bad for him for losing to Patrick Mahomes after
having a lead with thirteen seconds left in the fourth quarter.
And I think if we sort of fast forward a
little bit, is it going to be a Josh Allen
finally broke free from his coach and is now winning
rings or is it just same problem over and over

(08:24):
again with Josh Allen. He might get lucky and win one,
but it's not going to be this guy carrying a
team and us saying, oh okay, his coach was holding
us back.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
It's so interesting the fact that this is the only
true Super Bowl or bust I can ever remember, because
he won a playoff game. He got them into the
playoffs and won a playoff game, and it wasn't enough.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
They fired him.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
And now I'm looking at it and I go, why
when nine other teams have already fired their coach, are
you willing to get rid of somebody right who gets
you His won five AFCs titles, He's gotten you to
the playoffs, eight out of nine years. Why in this
market do you want to say, let's get rid of
our guy. I think it's always easy to say get

(09:08):
rid of the guy. Sometimes you have to ask yourself for.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
Who there was something Josh said going into this game
or into these playoffs, maybe, but talking about how the
Buffalo Bills winning the Super Bowl remains one of the
greatest stories in sports to happen. And it's true, right
they're just known as the consistent losers, you know, when
Jim Kelly and then we're there and now it just
can't really get past Patrick Mahomes now that Josh Allen

(09:33):
is there, and it had me sold as the best
possible storyline ending for these playoffs. But I think it
needs a little bit more. I think it needs to
be streaked out a little bit more. I think Josh
Allen needs to lose a little bit more for him
to finally be the best story in sports.

Speaker 7 (09:50):
That did feel like though, when Josh Allen loses to
the Broncos. It felt like a quarterback realizing this was
my moment because this is probably the worst Buffalo team
that he's had in the past five seasons, where any
other of those Buffalo teams probably walks their way to
the super Bowl, and then he's looking at the landscape
of the NFL. No Lamar Jackson, no Mahomes, And even

(10:12):
though this was his worst team, it hurts for Josh
Allen today because yes, he carried this team to the playoffs,
but the reason their home today is because of those
turnovers that he had.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Right and now we're left with Jared Stidham. I mean,
and no one wants that. The NFL, I am telling
you right now, of the potential matchups left for the
Super Bowl, they are praying that it's Patriots and Rams.
They want nothing to do with Sam Darnold versus Jared Stidham.

(10:44):
I'm not certain I want anything to do with that.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
I don't know if bon Nicks was healthy, if they'd
still wanted Denver Broncos to win that game.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Probably not.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
I think the Patriots and Drake may make for a
better story just because it's such a quick turnaround.

Speaker 7 (10:57):
Was it strange how fast that bon Nick's news happened.
Where Sean Payton leaves the press conference and you're like, okay,
getting ready for the next day of games, and then
he comes back and he goes and by the way guys,
uh Bonnicks out for the.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Season, Boken ankle Max, Yes, yes, you're frozen by the
way on my computer. Anyway, it's it's it truly is
amazing that Josh Allen so upset, so mad, the coach

(11:30):
gets fired. Josh Allen's fine. We continue to make excuses
for Josh Allen, and I feel like we're gonna do
it till the end of time. That game was on
Josh Allen, that game was in Josh Allen's hands, Josh
Allen had multiple opportunities to win that game and couldn't
get it done. And so I do wonder how we're

(11:52):
gonna view Josh Allen here moving forward, because you look
at all the other great quarterbacks kind of throughout time.
Is he Rick Mahomes with Andy Reid. They don't go
through it. Now Lamar Jackson is going through it. And boy,
I guarantee you John harbaught, which is he hadn't signed
that contract with the New York Giants. But you have
quarterbacks who are generational quarterbacks and normally their coach may

(12:15):
step down, but they don't get fired in the peak
of their careers. And now you have it with not
one but two quarterbacks in Lamar Jackson at Josh Allen,
it's not normal for the coach to be fired Normally
they've done enough winning where that coach is going to
stay with that quarterback forever.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
But those are the similarities, right like as a McDermott
didn't win a Super Bowl before Josh Allen the way
Harbad did before Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
However, it does feel.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Like for both of them that those relationships have just expired,
like it's just time to move on. And this is
something I don't know if it's Josh Allen's fault. I
don't know if it's Brandon Bean, who somehow got promoted
in this whole mess when he was you know, the
guy who orchestra built this not so great roster. But
there was a game, it was against the Dolphins this
year where I said to myself.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
This team's not winning a super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
It's impossible. And it was because of this statistic. Against
the Dolphins. He had three point five to three seconds
on average to throw the ball, which is the most
time he's had since twenty eighteen. And you know what,
he kept looking at covered receivers. He did not have
anybody to throw it to. So that's either the scheme,
which not every scheme in the NFL is built on

(13:28):
your receiver beating a corner. It could be just good,
you know, good scheme and you get guys open that way.
But you know it's either offensive line play, it's I
don't have any receivers. It's I'm turning the ball over
too much. You can place the blame in a million
different places. It seems like nobody really wants to put
it on Josh Allen's shoulders. And it feels like because
Brandon Bean just got promoted and it's now president of

(13:50):
Football Ops, that there's still yet another person they can
blame before they get to Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Going back to Taylor's point with McDermott, I have to
feel if you get rid of Sean McDermott, you know
who's replacing Sean McDermott. Don't you think like you have
an idea of who's good now. Maybe they thought it
would be Horrbob and Horba. I think the Giants probably
made John sign that deal before he knew the outcome
of the of the Bills game, like I would have

(14:17):
if I'm Joe Shane and Joe Shane's a friend of mine,
and perhaps he'll be on the show this week. If
I'm Joe Shane, I am like, hey, sign this contract.
I'm not going to allow you to see if the
Bills lose and then see if the Bills fire. Sean McDermott,
I have to think the Bills have somebody in mind.
I don't know who that somebody is. Mike Tomlin is
out there. There are a lot of guys out there. Uh,

(14:38):
but listen, you have a chance to coach this quarterback.
And I think that's a job where Kerrent head coaches
who have job security are probably calling their agent and saying, hey,
you think Buffalo would be interested in me?

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Maybe? Yeah, I mean he's that good yea.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
But he also, like I said, throws all these interceptions,
like I don't know if you're gonna have a coach
make coach that decision making out of him.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Our good friend Diana Rossini has a name. She's already said,
don't be surprised if we start hearing Brian da Ball,
former Giants head coach, because yes, Josh Allen and him
were best friends. I mean the knockout Josh Allen coming
out was oh he's in accurate. He's an accurate. Brian
da Ball said, I got that. Don't worry about it.

(15:24):
Now he's available.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Again, Taylor, why did you pump your fist when he said,
Brian Dayball, Brian Daball, come on down, and why are
you doing the price is right, I'm.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
Imagining in the crowd and now he's coming down and
he's kind of like waddling down.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Nobody has ever been that excited to hear.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
He got fired.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
If you're Brian Daball, you're sitting at home, you're embarrassed
that you got fired from the Giants. You're hearing everybody
say John Harball is going to make them a playoff team.
And then how do you get rewarded? Oh, you might
get the job with a significantly better quarterback and his
team that has a significantly higher ceiling than the team
that just fired you, the Giants.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Right, it seems like a it seems like day Ball.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
It seems like he's getting too much for the job
he did with the Giants, like he's getting, doesn't it?

Speaker 5 (16:11):
What was the job upwards? Like me?

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Right?

Speaker 7 (16:17):
But John Harball with Buffalo wouldn't really make that much
sense because John Harball's biggest complaint was that he didn't
get the most out of a quarterback that was an
MVP level quarterback. If you're Buffalo, you don't replace somebody
with almost a carbon copy of that guy.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Right.

Speaker 7 (16:35):
It feels like you do need somebody if you're Buffalo
that's gonna raise your ceiling. And I don't think John
Harball necessarily does that. And that's why he goes somewhere
like the Giants who just need their floor rais and
somebody like Harball coming in kind of does that.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
It's a job with lesser expectations, which some people would
say that's the better job. I would say, no, the
job that has Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen attached to it,
that's the better job.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
John Harbaugh stabilizes an organization. He gets everything organized, he
hires the right people, hopefully runs a smooth operation. He's
not going to be the innovator that turns Josh Allen
from MVP great to Super Bowl Champion great or repeat
super Bowl Champion great.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
He's a good guy to have.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
As for your organization, I'd rather if I'm the Buffalo
Bills look for somebody that has just a little bit
of a difference. Maybe offensively just has something that we
haven't seen before and we haven't talked about because John
Harbough feel like it's kind of spent.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Is it day ball?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Though?

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Is it Mike McDaniel?

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Like? Who would be that guy? And you can hire
a head coach to kind of be the CEO and
then just hire a guy like Mike McDaniel on offensive genius.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Now, that would be funny if the caarsel has gotten
to the point where Mike McDaniel would go from the
Dolphins to the Bills, and on top of that, hey,
why don't you just trade me Tyreek Hill as well?
Then I'd be a little scared of the Buffalo Bills yet.
But I don't know if Mike McDaniel's your answer.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
So if you're the Ravens, do you what do you
do with Sean McDermott That a guy you would consider
Because Taylor's point is a good point in the cases
of McDermott and John Harbaugh. So in Harba, if he
went to Buffalo, he couldn't win with his generational quarterback
in Baltimore, so he's gonna go to Buffalo, would try
to win with their generational quarterback and McDermott it would

(18:17):
be the same thing. You couldn't win with Josh Allen
and now we're gonna hire you to coach Lamar.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah, I think Lamar John McDermott.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
I don't think he gets looked at as this guy
who just brought the Buffalo Bills out of nowhere and
broke that eighteen year non playoff streak, because they're gonna
look at it at the end of Oh, you had
this amazing MVP level quarterback and couldn't do enough with him.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Of course you were.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Going to break that playoff drought. That was inevitable if
you have this guy. But how good of a coach
are you really? I don't think anybody's just hiring him
this first year out.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
If you're the Ravens, you can't hire another choker. You
have to just go go to Sean McVay. Ask him
what assistant does he like best? All right, that's our
guy there.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Just ask McVay what makes you think McVeigh wouldn't want
one of these jobs?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Some great games over the week. I'm serious with McVeigh.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
There are coaches who are like, wait a second, Matthew
Stafford is thirty eight years old. I have Stetton Bennett
as my backup, and I have a chance to go
coach Josh Allen Liltmore Jackson. I'm not saying McVay is
going to do that. Before we break here, Ad dan
Burk's going to join us, We'll have we CAN observations
coming up. I'll explain those before we get into them
in just a couple of minutes. Here, Frank Calliando, our

(19:27):
friend is going to join us at four o'clock and
we have a national championship game to get to tonight
Miami and Indiana. Kurtzignetti to Buffalo. How about that?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
He's staying right there. Really, he's a college.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Guy, Marcus Freeman, I'll take him. Yeah, No, would he
take the job?

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Though?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I know you would take them? Who wouldn't take it?

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Before we break here, though, I want to play the
sound of Sean McDermott again.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Remember this is after another terrible, terrible.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Playoff law and Sean McDermott has the feeling that Paul
is going to fire him, and so here is Sean
McDermott not sticking up for Buffalo. Here's Sean McDermott sticking
up for himself.

Speaker 8 (20:11):
I'm saying it because I'm standing up for Buffalo.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Dammit.

Speaker 8 (20:13):
I'm standing up for us because what went on is
not that is not how it should go down. In
my estimation, that that plays. These guys spend three hours
out there playing football, pouring their guts out to not
even say, hey, let's just slow this thing down.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
That's why I'm bothered standing up for Buffalo.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
Is he one of you against the officials?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Let's hear it again, please, just one more time.

Speaker 8 (20:39):
I'm saying it because I'm standing up for Buffalo, Damnit.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm standing up for us.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Taylor put it on the pall. Was McDermott standing up
for Buffalo or standing up for himself because he knew
he was about to get fired?

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Of course I'm locked in Hamnet one battle after another, sinners,
but you're gonna love Centophile.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
You're the best dude.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
All right, let's get to we can observations.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
How's that music? Wow?

Speaker 5 (23:49):
Did play a little faster? Can we do this at
two time speed?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I have to speak faster, man hard networkout fifty four
to twenty seven. I'm sweating an He got into this
industry because of his love of sports radio and to
speak to Jim on a car phone. After sixteen years

(24:16):
of creating and co hosting the biggest sports radio show
of all time, he stepped away. At his last live
national radio show was January fourth, twenty twenty one. He
spent five years missing the very thing that he left,

(24:36):
but Adnan just like that, make no mistake about it.
I am back. I was not going to miss the
debut episode.

Speaker 9 (24:49):
So welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Thank you, Bud. You got to pick this pace up.
I'm sweating. Did anybody else feel like it took forever
to get to the football at four thirty on Saturday?
I did? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I mean, can we started at one?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Please?

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Without question?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
YEP. To anybody saying you've got to feel bad for
Josh Allen, He's guaranteed two hundred and fifty million dollars
and is married to an A list celebrity, give me
a break. He's gonna be fined.

Speaker 9 (25:19):
You had met Haley Steinfeld, Yes, a lister, wen go
that far, but she's top shelf alright.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Broncos offensive lineman Frank Crumb scoring a touchdown a fix six.
Anytime a lineman sprints further than five yards, it automatically
goes from running.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
To chug it along. It does the announcer does that
he's chucking along?

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
It is the Bills led the league, or lead the
league in white guys with a little.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Bit of hair hanging out the back of their helmets.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
They do they and by the way, Knox can came
to the same person, right, thank you? Who did he miss?

Speaker 5 (26:02):
I think?

Speaker 3 (26:03):
But it could have been Tony Romo finding ways to
talk about Patrick Mahomes in a game that doesn't involve
Patrick Mahomes. Tony Romo, the Chris Collinsworth is strong in
you the weekends Doomes. Oh, it was fantastic, but no,

(26:25):
But here's here's a better moment, all of us talking
over each other for the first time in the show.
I love it, not add Dan. He knows who he was.
I love you, Michael. If the NBA took this past
weekend off, do you think anyone would have noticed?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Mean?

Speaker 4 (26:48):
But true?

Speaker 5 (26:49):
It's so true.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Buffalo Bill's death by moon Ball Bill's fans. The good
news is it wouldn't have counted. It's you did it
against Mahomes anyways. Good point Scott's personal record book.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Excellent point by that book.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
While you're other, Oh, you're so good. Can't wait to
see what rules the NFL changes this offseason. For Josh Allen,
you can't be a great tight end until an announcer
calls you a safety blanket.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
It's true. Yeah, good point.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
McCall. Hartman is a bill.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I was also stunned by that.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
That's a great one, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Do you think any part of Peyton Manning saw the
Bonnicks injury and said, if Philip Rivers can do it,
why can't if.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
You had ten kids, he'd do it.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
For the health insurance, the sheriff Broncos. The rare win
that feels like a loss. We all lost. Jared Stidham
started his career with the Patriots the ultimate revenge game.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Coming up on a two minute warning here stude.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yep, add Nan, you're the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Mike Tomlin calls, what do you do?

Speaker 9 (28:15):
Oh, I'm taking that job. Mike Tomlin's back, just like
Stuc Gotts.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah. Bo Baschett signing with the Mets. Yes, the New
York Baschetts.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
I'm not sure about that forty year. He could opt
after year one for one year.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
I like it. Kyle Shanahan has a Mike McDonald problem.
Seahawks forty nine Ers, the rare game that felt over
after the opening kickoff. Yep, yeah, you know where the
Seahawks took the forty nine ers?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Add in, where's that behind the woodshed.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
Come on, add Nan, you're no rooky.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
I should have known that one, is he?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, everybody on NFL Live picking the Texans to beat
the Patriots kiss.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Of death, Yes they all.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah. I have about a minute here, and I have
seventeen thousand more observations to go. Thank you. I just
heard it in my headset Duke football getting mad that
the quarterback they paid a ton of a ton of
money to leave to Tulane is now leaving Duke for
even more money. Duke football, the Stu Gotts is strong

(29:25):
in you. You know what they say, if you can't
win an ACC championship, pay ten million dollars for the
quarterback that did.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
How could they do that to their boy? That's so wrong.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
The Rams lead the league in white tight ends that
you can't tell the difference between.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Oh, I gotta go.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Caleb Williams leads the league. It throws that make you say,
Holy Hell speaking to Hell or Briles. Those are the
we can observation and yeah, you have three seconds. I'd
been great job, guys, By to the file.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
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Speaker 3 (30:21):
App our two s Togatza company. I have bumped Frank
Kelly Endo. I asked him to join us on Tuesday
or Wednesday, because I am not terribly confident in the
connections here, not with Fox Sports Radio, just our connection
and being able to get Frank on and allowing Frank
to do what it is he is so great at doing.

(30:42):
So I have asked him to join us on Tuesday
or Wednesday. And he laughed at me and hung up
and said, Okay, I mean, but whose voice did he
laugh at you? And it was Adam Schefters. Yes, we
got a lot to get to, man, we really do.
There's so many things that happened over the weekend, and
a lot of the shows aren't getting to many of

(31:03):
the big stories from over the weekend because Sean McDermott
was fired by the Buffalo Bills, and it's rare to
have that job come up, and that kind of job,
with that kind of quarterback, and now you have not one,
but two. I want to ask you, guys, though, the
biggest loser from the weekend, because I think a lot
of people would say Josh Allen, and I would tell

(31:27):
you that it was CJ. Strep that was one of
the worst performances. And I don't know how we arrived here,
but somehow, Mikey, we have arrived at the Houston Texans
seemingly being a quarterback away from winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
When you consider that CJ.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Straud was the talk of the NFL just two years
ago as a rookie, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
It's amazing to think of what he was able to
do two years ago, and the fact that we're looking
at this team now going man that textas team might
be a quarterback away, right if they have justin fields, Yes,
they might give the Patriots a game there.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yes, yes, I was telling the guys earlier. I think
I told you this earlier, Mikey and God bless football.
Please subscribe to that as well, download subscribe rate all
that good stuff. I was telling the guys that there
was a time where I thought houst did I was
gonna win that game. And the observation I wrote down
on the notes app of my iPhone was Stidham CJ.

(32:28):
Stroud clear advantage to the Denver Broncos. So CJ.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
Stroud finishes twenty to forty seven, four interceptions, five total turnovers.
Last week I got laughed out of the room when
I suggested Davis Mills to go into the game.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I thought about him. I did this weekend you thought
about Davis Mills?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I sent you a text.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
Yes, a lot of people had that same thought. Where
do you pull CJ. Shroud?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
And if you do pull CJ. Stroud?

Speaker 7 (33:00):
Does Davis Mills win that game for the Texans? And
I think the answer today probably yes.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
It just makes you wonder what it would have had
to take for him to pull CJ.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Stroud.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
When somebody else watching the game with that halftime, it
was like, wow, it's like trying to exaggerate, said, this
guy's like throwing like four interceptions already, and it was
actually four interceptions, Like you and you're just losing the
ball every time, and it feels like every time you
do get the ball off, it's like half an inch
away from another defender getting a finger on it. It
just felt like the worst possible game a quarterback could have.

(33:34):
And then you just start asking yourself, all right, did
we get fooled by his rookie year? Because normally you
know when a quarterback's first contract, this age of the
of the NFL, whether they're Super Bowl ready. Some teams
are dumb enough to pay a quarterback that isn't that guy.
And that's to a tongue of Ielo and the Dolphins
as an example. Some teams, you know, find another quarterback

(33:56):
and decide to move on.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
CJ.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Strouder's really got this team in a pickle after just
that one performance.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Davis Mills might have made himself a lot of money
by not getting in that game.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
The question of what Davis Mills could have done might
have made him some money right there.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
I'm curious Taylor, because Taylor is a Patriots fan. You
want to explain why you're a Patriots fan.

Speaker 7 (34:17):
Taylor mccollins was my roommate at Carolina. I just cheer
for whatever team mc collins is on.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Right, Taylor was a walk on wide receiver at the
University of North Carolina.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
Yeah, he's the second most athletic person on this radio show,
and it's you know.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Good, thanks him.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yes, And he's also hoping he's also, yeah, you're welcome, Mikey.
He's also hoping that Belichick, as a proud Carolina a
former football player, that Belichick gets hired by the Bills.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
So as a current Patriots slash mccollins fan, who mccollins
will come on the show with us, but only if
we go to Boston. Doesn't want to do this over zoom.
We're on the telephone. How do you feel about the
Patriots right now? Because they will, if they get there,
have the easiest path to the Super Bowl in history
because CJ. Stroud gave them a game, right the Chargers

(35:04):
just refuse to show up with an offensive line and
then you're gonna have the bo nixless Denver Broncos that
he would have gotten past to get to the super Bowl.
You're feeling good about the Pats right now? You think
they're a little bit of smoking marriage right now?

Speaker 7 (35:17):
Through two games. I think the most surprising thing that
I have a feeling wise towards this Patriots team. I
feel a lot better about their defense through two games
than I do about their offense. And that's not really
something you would expect to say when you have a
quarterback like Drake May who is either the MVP or
the second place for the MVP. He's taken ten sacks

(35:38):
six fumbles into playoff games. But this defense, I think,
if you're Mike Rabel, you want to have a team
that's built through your defense. And there's ben times this
year where the defense has kind of looks shaky, but
now it's a fully healthy defense. And when Milton Williams
is healthy on that defensive line, it's a completely different defense.
And Christian Gonzales at corner is probably one of the

(35:59):
most underrated players in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Mikey A, have you noticed, just quickly here as an aside,
how nice Taylor has been to Ben Johnson every time
we bash him. Have you noticed that at all?

Speaker 5 (36:10):
I have noticed it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
It's almost as if he's, you know, my god, trying
to get him on the line here.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yes, So it's like he's trying to smooch him. Yes,
So Taylor has his number. Ben Johnson was a walk
on quarterback at North Carolina. Taylor was a walk on
wide receiver at North Carolina. A couple of walk ons
cutting it up. And so Taylor is being overly nice
to Ben Johnson every time we criticize him, because he's
trying to get Ben Johnson on the show. Is that fair? Semantics?

(36:42):
What do you mean? Semantics? Semantics?

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Right?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Because one.

Speaker 7 (36:46):
I do want to defend Ben Johnson because that Bears
franchise has been a loser franchise and then he comes
in one year to the point where, yes, the Bears
lose today, but those fans, Bears fans aren't waking up
today feeling like losers. I think part of them is
feeling like they won that game and that that house
money aspect of that game. So, yes, I'm going to

(37:06):
defend I'm gonna I don't want to call him a friend.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yet, right, Well, he's not. I mean acquaintance perhaps, yes, yes.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
A guy whose phone number I have. I think that's.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Probably probably the way to go.

Speaker 7 (37:19):
Yes, but if if if I met Ben Johnson, yeah,
I have a thousand percent confidence that after that meeting
he would consider it.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
What's your play here? In terms of trying to get
him on the air, Like, what do you get? You
have to wait a couple of days, you know that? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (37:35):
Yeah, maybe maybe we asked him to phone in during
radio row super Bowl week.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
He's fond of doing things shirtless. We all do.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
We all take our shirts off and say hey, come
come do the show with us, take your shirt off.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
I think super Bowl Week is probably that's too long.
He'll be over it by then. I mean, because listen,
there are different types of losses in the NFL playoffs,
and the loss that he absorbed yesterday, while his fault
for not going for two is a loss that Chicago
can live with. And I'm not doing Taylor any favors
here trying to get Ben Johnson on because I'm bashing

(38:07):
him today. I'm just gonna I'm just saying, listen, if
you're the guy that's gonna go for two wall season
long and be from that Dan Campbell coaching treat, you
think Dan Campbell would have went for two in that spot,
I guarantee you he would have, and Ben Johnson didn't.
At home with that quarterback with a team on the ropes.
But I think you should text Ben this week. I do.
Don't bring up Dan Campbell's name right now.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
Dan Campbell might have been a Ben Johnson merchant because
you take Ben Johnson away from him, because we know
it wasn't taken away Aaron Glenn, because we saw what
the Jets did. You take Ben Johnson away from Dan Campbell,
and all of a sudden, Dan Campbell started.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Human.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
He did have as Chucher who started calling plays with
the big giant playbook and everything.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Against against the commander a little bit.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
But yeah, I think he's definitely been utilizing more of
Ben Johnson than I think we realized.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Taylor. You handed me the sheet here that has Houston
Texans observations on it because we couldn't get to all
the weekend we can observations with that, Nan Burk, are
you wanting me to read these? Is that what you're
asking me to do?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
No?

Speaker 7 (39:06):
So to break to break the fourth wall here? I
handed it to you so many slip in a couple
of those.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
CJ.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Stroud is the Tom Brady of Nathan Peterman's.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
You going, we got something good right now? I think
it says something about c J. Straud that Demiko Ryans
thinks of punt is their best offense. And he's right.
That was the saddest punt of all time, by the way,
it was. Yes, it was Demiko Riots great coach, bad quarterback.

(39:44):
Do you think Demiko Ryans has reached out to his
agent and said, hey, I think Buffalo would be interested.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
How many points did the Texans win that game by
if they had Josh Allen?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Oh my god, I mean how would the Patriots. The
Texans were in that game like they were in that
game in the second half. Playing that poorly was.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
The point in the game where I said to myself,
if the Texans somehow pulled this off with that performance
at quarterback, they're gonna win the Super Bowl because it
seemed like they had the most dominant unit in the
sport and so to you know, the same way people
feel in Chicago about Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson right now, I.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
Think they feel the exact opposite. In Houston.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
I think they feel like a complete blown opportunity because
they started off poorly, a little bit of a disappointment,
but then they figured it out, They saw their strengths.
They won with Davis Mills, they figure, of course we
can win with CJ. Stroud, and then that now you're
questioning your quarterback for the future, and it just feels like, oh,
are we going to be that, you know, team that
nobody wants to play because of this defense, But we're

(40:53):
never actually going to get anywhere because we don't have
the quarterback play. It'd be pretty frustrating to be a
Texans fan today.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
I think he's up for an extension CJ.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Stroud.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
You can't. There's no way based on that performance and
based on the last two seasons, you can give him
that kind of contract, can you.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
That's the question is which version of him are we
going to get? Are we maybe overstating Demico Ryans and
his value? Maybe you know, it could be another coach
or another offensive coordinator that really gets the best out
of CJ.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
I don't know, but I think if you've never.

Speaker 6 (41:25):
Watched football before and you watched him play that game,
you'd probably say to yourself, Yeah, I don't think this
guy's any good, right.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
CJ.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Stroud might be the Michael Jordan of Carson Wentz's taking
that one year and turning it into a career.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Taylor put that on the poll, by the way, what
Mikey just said, And also, if you watch football for
the first time yesterday, do you think CJ. Straud is
the worst quarterback to ever play?

Speaker 6 (41:49):
I think I think Carson Wentz is the Michael Jordan
of Carson Wentz.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Is I think c J. Stroud maybe like a Clyd Drexler.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Well, no, Stroud is a Tom Brady of Nathan Peterman.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
It feels like every off season with the Texans to
play Devil's advocate just on behalf of c J. Stroud,
because god knows nobody is coming to c J. Stroud's
defense today.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Well, why would you. I mean, every off.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
Season we say, hey, the Texans have to address their
offensive line, they have to give c J. Stroud a
better run game. And then we go into the season
and in last offseason's case, their offensive line got worse
trading Laramie Tunsel and you make your offensive line worse.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
And you're like, hey, c J.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
Shroud, not only did we make your line worse, but
we need you to be better now. So I'm not
ready to totally, you know, get rid of CJ. Stroud
or think he's.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
I'm not saying get rid of CJ. Stroud. I'm just
saying you can't pay him, but what he's probably gonna comme,
especially with how much he's regressed.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
Yeah, get rid of whoever played quarterback for the Texans
this weekend, because that wasn't didn't.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Look like CJ.

Speaker 6 (42:54):
Stroud whatever he was doing there, whatever, Like this decision
making was horrible. It's again, it's seemed like he had
no pocket presence because he couldn't see or feel the
guys that were about to make a play on the
football that I don't know. That doesn't seem like just regression.
It seems just like a.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Weird like a metal glitch. Maybe maybe it was he
seemed like he was scared to be out of the football.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Maybe it was the pressure of that level of the playoffs,
maybe it was the weather. Whatever it is, you gotta
find out what it was, because if he's going to
repeat that type of performance whenever he's under pressure, whenever
he's under poor conditions, you can't fly with that.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
How many teams would take c J Stroud right now?
If you if you let him walk, if you didn't
give him that contract. How many teams would take CJ
based on his first year? But based on his first year,
there's not a coach out there who doesn't think to himself,
if I got that guy, I could fix the problem.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Do you think Sean Payton would take CJ Stroud this weekend? Oh?

Speaker 5 (43:50):
Yeah, I think he'd take Philip Rivers.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Over Jared Stidham, is what I'm saying. You think he
take Philip Rivers? Do you?

Speaker 5 (43:58):
I'm still Peyton Manning. I think that's the best choice.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I mean, what are we supposed to do. Jared Stidham
is two games away from winning a Super Bowl. I
don't want to watch Jared Stidham with a super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
No, you don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
No, is he the nature of the NFL? This guy
has a home game? Okay, he is a home game.
Of what you can win a home game with your
backup quarterback.

Speaker 6 (44:20):
You could do that against the way the Patriots are playing,
at least offensively.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
You you probably can.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Well listen and the Patriots should have blown out the
Houston Texans and they didn't. And Drake May turns the
ball over a bit too. So the NFL is so funny,
it's so weird that no one should be surprised if
the Broncos find themselves in San Francisco with Jared Stidham
is their quarterbow?

Speaker 6 (44:40):
What I like where you're going with this. If the
NFL has a problem of people thinking they're scripted, watch
this right, Watch the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
When would have scripted Buffalo right into the Super Bowl?

Speaker 6 (44:51):
Yes, precisely. Nobody wanted Jared Stidham and the Seattle Seahawks
with their you know, Zach Zachary Sharbonay now going down
not probably the most exciting team, and you've got uh.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
I mean, the.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Rams would probably save the NFL by winning the Super
Bowl and making it seem pretty in these last couple
of games. But yeah, Denver winning it all would be
sort of the anti script that everybody would say. You
know what, I'm gonna shut up about the NFL being
scripted because that's just terrible.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
I'm telling you right now. If Jared Stidham ends his
career with one more ring than Dan Marino, I quit.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
Quit what.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Not the show? I just I quit. I quit.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
I quit just asking because I was like, do I
have to do the heavy lifting year?

Speaker 5 (45:34):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I quit football? That would be so unfair.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
It would be so unfair a guy Marino's caliber not
having a ring and Jared Stidham having a ring because
bow Nicks got hurt.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
You know what, you quit football? Me and you NBA podcast?

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Oh how about you should launch one of those. There's
real goody eras. How how about bow Knicks. Here's a conundrum.
He's not gonna feel fulfilled if the Broncos win the
Super Bowl without him, right, I.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
Mean, ask Carson Wentz, right, do we consider him a
Super Bowl champion or do we consider Nick Foles.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
I mean, Carson Wentz was the MVP before he got hurt.
Then Nick Foles came in, and then we had Jake
Tepper on the show. And I asked Jake Tepper, who
was a big Philadelphia fan, his Mount Rushmore of Philly
sports guys, and Nick Foles.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Was on it.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Carson Wentz was not.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
I think that's your answer.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
Okay, did you see on social media Nick Foles tweeted
the Broncos and he said, hey, guys, I know you
guys are going through it right now. But if there's
any team that struggles to beat recently placed back backup quarterbacks,
right Denver Broncos. Yes, I mean it's the New England Patriots.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yet tongue there, Yeah, a little bit a couple of them.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
I was only referencing the first one that was a disaster.
Oh my god, you okay, listen, he's rattled. He drove
all the way from New York to get down here.
He rented a car, He's living in an airbnb right
right now. This is his first live radio show. It's

(47:03):
like he's walked into a foreign country. He is so
used to doing this in his living room. And now
we're at a live radio station. And by the way,
radio has not changed, mikey Okay, I haven't walked into
a station in five There's no one here.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I mean, there's not a salesperson in sight.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
I mean, but I guess it's a holiday, it's a
tailor's credit. It's still pretty calm, Yeah, still pretty collected.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
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