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January 23, 2026 42 mins

On this edition of the Best of Stugotz & Company LIVE!: Stugotz and the guys discuss the Buffalo Bills and the news that Philip Rivers has been brought in for an interview as their head coach.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is the best of Stu Gotson Company Live on
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Stu Gotson Company Live on Fox Sports Radio Friday Edition.
I'm Dan Beyer, having some technical issues just with the
guys back in South Florida as I'm at our headquarters
in La. Huge weekend to say the least, when it
comes to football Championship weekend in the National Football League.

(00:44):
Patriots and Broncos getting after it in the first game,
Seahawks and Rams renew their rivalry in the NFC. Plus
the huge news of the day, Philip Rivers maybe back
in the NFL. No, not quarterbacking, but maybe as a
head coach. Interviewing with the Buffalo Bills. Today it is

(01:06):
Fox Sports Radio Stugatson Company Live here on FSR.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
So if we have the.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Technical issues with the guys sorted out, we'll just give
you a quick timeline and how this is all gone
in the week that is the Buffalo Bills. So last
Saturday they have a second half lead, aren't able to
hold on to it, force it overtime, questionable catch not

(01:38):
catch interception call, They end up losing. Their season comes
to an end. Monday, the Bills fire head coach Sean McDermott.
Then on Wednesday we hear from ownership Terry Pagoula and
the new president of football Operations with the Buffalo Bills,
the recently promoted general manager, Brandon Bean. And if you

(02:01):
forgot what happened Wednesday, here was here was a little taste,
and somehow Keon Coleman was catching a bunch of strays.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Yes, can I interrupt, I'll address the Keon situation. The
coaching staff pushed to draft Kon. I'm not saying Brandon
wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice.
That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice
of his coaching staff.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
That was Wednesday, and now today we have come to
find out that the Buffalo Bills, with Josh Allen having input,
are interviewing Philip Rivers for their head coaching vacancy. That's
the week that was in Buffalo. As we throw it
to the guys in South Florida, Stu take it away?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
All right, Dan, thank you. I was enjoying your show,
by the way.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I wanted to see where you were going to take
it outside of Philip Rivers of course.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Did you have any idea what we because you're.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
A pro, you're a pros pro, Dan, and I wanted
to listen to more of you because we're unprofessional around here.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
In two and a half minutes you were getting my
picks against the spread here on Stegatt's In Company Live.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
That's where you were going. Huh? Why not?

Speaker 6 (03:16):
Somebody pulled the fire alarm over here apparently?

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yes, thank you Dan for doing that. We appreciated.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is the telephone
number eight seven seven nine to nine on Fox. Mark
Dominic could to join us a former GM Tampa Bay
Buccaneers for twenty five We taped earlier on Stegattson Company
and God Bless Football with the Bear Chris Flika if
you want his picks for the championship games coming up

(03:42):
this Sunday, and Mike Gullick Junior as well.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
It is all right there we do.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I don't know, two to three hours before we get
in here, every single day since Dan brought up what's
going on in Buffalo and Philip Rivers Taylor, do me
a favor, please put this on the poll. If you
were hiring someone to help Josh Allen get over the hump,
would the last person you'd hire be Philip Rivers. He

(04:12):
is a guy who is notoriously known for not being
able to get over the hump. What do you mean
it's unfair to him as a quarterback, but you haven't
seen him do anything as a head coach. I have not,
No one has, because he's never been a head coach
in the NFL before, only in high school.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
I mean, so what gets you more excited?

Speaker 7 (04:30):
I Philip Rivers, who's been a quarterback for years and
years and years but not been a head coach or
a halflee.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
That's a great point, probably Philip. Yes, yes, the unknown
to me is better. Well, they're both unknown to answer
your question, but the unknown and the big name.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Of Philip Rivers.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I'd rather have that than like Kevin Stefanski, Right, Because.

Speaker 7 (04:55):
What in the end, like, if we've learned much from
you know, the John Harbaughs of the world, what do
the head coaches do their best at organizing.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Their best at keeping things together. They're best at.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
Making final decisions that is best for the organization, and
they're you know, doing the thing on game day. But
in terms of being a specialist on one side or
the other, they don't have to be that.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
You're right, I have to follow the faces of Mikeya here.
That's why he's on the zoom every single day. So
I can follow his face because when we say stuff
and he disagrees, he has no problem.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
But me know, what is going on with you, mikey A.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
Kevin Stefanski's a two time coach of the Year. Philip
Rivers couldn't do anything anywhere. He can't even win his
high school champion.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
But could Stanski play quarterback?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
That's a good question.

Speaker 8 (05:42):
Well, but that's that's Kevin Stefanski's problem. My question is,
how is Philip Rivers going to coach the Bills? Why
still play quarterback for the colt.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
And would he be the Bills back up if Josh
Allen went down? How about that? Think about it? Uh?

Speaker 6 (05:54):
Would you have to right? A?

Speaker 7 (05:57):
I can still play clause into Phillip rivers coaching contract,
like will he say hey, hey, if somebody needs me
could be you guys, could be somebody else. But if
somebody needs me, that's my top priority. I'm doing that first,
just not the Chiefs.

Speaker 8 (06:13):
It also depends on what the insurance is like as
a coach versus a player.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Right, it's so interesting, is he? How do you?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
And now the report was and I think Dan talked
about this as his update that they are consulting Josh
Allen on this. Josh Allen is well aware and he
has signed off on them. Speaking to Philip Rivers, who
again was a high school coach for his son's football team,
he was thirteen to one this year.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Not bad thirteen to one, honestly, if I'm being honest.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
But that is a guy whose job it would be,
if he got the job, okay, to get Josh Allen
over the hump. And I don't know how you coach that.
And go back to your experience as a player when
you were a guy like Josh Allen who was unable
to get past some of the great and get himself
to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (07:01):
So we're to believe that Josh Allen was not important
enough to the organist, to the organization to have a
say on whether they get rid of Sean McDermott. But
the next guy, Yeah, they are absolutely consulting him in
this situation.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
None of that makes sense to me.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I believe that Josh Allen knew that Sean McDermott was
going to be fired, signed off on Sean McDermott being fired.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I'm okay with him having a say in who the
next head coach is going to be for the Buffalo Bills,
because in all honesty, it's Josh Allen's head coach.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
It's not the Buffalo Bills head coach, it is his
head coach.

Speaker 9 (07:36):
Yes, Taylor Is, You're a Dolphins fan and the other
person interviewing for the job today is Mike McDaniel. As
a Dolphins fan, who would you rather see coaching that
Bills team next year? Philip Rivers or Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
You assume that as a Dolphins fan that I hate
every other organization As a Dolphins fan, I actually keep
other organizations as potential teams to root for because my
fandom with the Dolphin it is so shaky. But in
terms of Mike McDaniel, who I never thought should have
been fired. I thought he should have been given a
chance with another quarterback. I'm not entirely frightened by him

(08:13):
potentially running the Bills. I don't think the revenge factor
of being in the same division as the Miami Dolphins
is going to elevate his coaching ability.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
But I do think that he has got.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
More innovative offensive ideas than I've seen I think Josh
Allen ever play in and that's without you know, what
we've seen from Mike McDaniel is without having a mobile
quarterback because Tua was the opposite of that when he
was on the movie, could not make a play ever,
just to be clear, ever, And so I think having
Josh Allen to open up his playbook, I mean it

(08:49):
would probably would probably see.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
Things we've never seen before from Mike McDaniels.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
So would I be scared, No, because they're going to
beat the Dolphins anyway. But would I be intrigued by
how Josh Alla would look with a little bit more
innovation to his offensive coordinator.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, I would be.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
This is how good Josh Allen is and this is
how attractive Josh Allen makes that job. Mike McDaniel just
signed with the La Rams. He lives in Los Angeles,
Chargers are the Chargers. Excuse me, he lives He lives
in Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
I was thinking of Philip Rivers.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Philip Rivers played for the San Diego Chargers, still lives
in San Diego. These are very very nice places. Buffalo
is not. And these two guys are willing to drop
everything and move their families across the country from LA
and San Diego to Buffalo.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
If you are a Chargers quarterback, yeah, Justin Herbert and
UK all right, I've got Mike McDaniel, he's my offensive coordinator.
Oh wait, he's gonna go flirt with Josh Allen for
a second and then maybe back to me when obviously
he sees Josh Allen.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
As the better option here. I don't know if I'm
gonna like that.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
I don't know if I'm going to accept him with
big giant Justin Herbert arms when he comes back after
flirting with Josh Allen.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Stu.

Speaker 9 (10:13):
You mentioned that Philip Rivers was thirteen and one this
season at Saint Michael Catholic.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, the Cardinals.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
Ah, the Cardinal.

Speaker 9 (10:20):
Do you think the guy who beat him that one?
The Jackson Aggies who beat him in the state playoffs,
is like wait, why am I not getting an interview for.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
This, Jess?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I do think that, and I think he's thinking that,
and he should get an interview. If Philip Rivers is
gonna get one, why not the guy who beat him?

Speaker 4 (10:34):
I mean put that on the Paul Taylor should.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
The guy who beat Philip Rivers also get an interview
with Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. And I do
believe Josh Allen is conducting the interviews, is he?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
It is so crazy? What a crazy coaching carasel.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
You know, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
It just won't stop.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
It's crazy that Josh Allen cries and everybody's like, oh,
Josh Allen, he tries so hard.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
He should cry.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Caleb Williams cries in college and it's like what a child, Yes,
a baby that gets made.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Fun of, right, But he can cry as much as
he wants moving forward, because Caleb is proved, I don't.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
Think he can cry. He can paint his nails and cry.
I think he would be under too deep of an attack.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
The last person to be hired is a full time
NFL head coach without any prior college or pro coaching experience.
Norm Van Brocklin. The Dutchman nineteen sixty one. I mean,
how about that for sure?

Speaker 4 (11:30):
I am sure. Well, Jeff's Saturdayday, the Colts try all these.

Speaker 9 (11:36):
Full time, full time.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
That was the key tailor, Yes, full time.

Speaker 7 (11:41):
I'll actually asking if you're sure about the Dutchman part.
But whatever, I am sure about the Dutchman part.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I am. That's the only thing I was sure about
was the was the Dutchman part is he? It is?
Just where? What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
In what world does Josh Allen, who I believe signed
off on the firing of Sean McDermott, who's win percentage
six is fifteenth all time in NFL history among qualified coaches,
better than Belichick, Parcel's Walls, Tom Landry, better than all
those guys. And yet the guy that he's attracted to

(12:13):
they get rid of him, and the guy he's attracted
to was done none of that. And as a guy
who was playing quarterback for the Colts a couple of
weeks ago.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
I mean, let's be real, what's really exciting about an interview?
If I'm the Buffalop Bills, I want to interview.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
This quote?

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Who were talking about Philip Rivers?

Speaker 7 (12:32):
I want to interview Philip Rivers a lot. I just
went through three names in my head. I would interview
Philip Rivers. That sounds like a fun interview. I want
to talk to you about all of his kids and
why he came back, and that he can't even throw
the ball thirty yards but he's somehow in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
I would want to have that discussion, right.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I do have a top five athletes that canot a
body of water in honor of Philip Rivers that we
can get to here.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
It just a set in honor of Philip Rivers.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, you know what went in Rome, and it just
happened to be on my notes. And you know since
Philip Rivers is in the news today, well it's fitting.

Speaker 7 (13:04):
Because we started the week with Ponds from Indiana being
our big hero, right, Danzelo.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Putt, Yes, that's when Taylor wanted me to get to it.
We never got to it. We got sidetracked, as we
often do around here talking about Philip Rivers. I remember that, yes,
but now I have it and so we can go
to that here in just a second. Mike McDaniel, that
would be a great for me. If I'm Josh Allen
the Buffalo Bills, that would be the guy now that

(13:32):
I'm thinking about it, because of the offensive mind having
a quarterback like that. If I'm Mike McDaniel, or if
I'm Josh Allen and I see Mike McDaniel being able
to put up seventy points with Tua, okay.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I would that's the guy I would crave. That's the
guy I would want because if he.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Did that with Tua, imagine what Mike McDaniel could do
with a guy like Josh Allen.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
Well, I mean he also somehow head coached a team
that be you know, gave Josh Allen some trouble in
a couple of games. But I would argue that Mike
McDaniel did those things with Tyreek Hill right more than
he did to it. And so if Josh Allen says,
all right, I'll take Mike McDaniel as my head coach
if Tyreek comes with him that, I think he'd be
a lot more excited.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Taylor, do we have the sounder ready for a top
five before we get to Dan Byer's picks?

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Here? Do we have that double checking? All right?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
We're gonna talk it out on the fly, all of
us together with little organization, because when we started the
show today. We were talking into blank microphones that weren't
working because we had the local feed on w io
D sixteen.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Uh. We got a nice news update in the traffic
update as well. Mike.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, you hunkered down up there in Hartford, Connecticut right now.

Speaker 8 (14:46):
It's it's getting crazy. I had to I had to
go out to the stores today and man, I had
to push a little old lady down for a loaf
of bread.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
But oh, come on, you didn't do that, did you. Well,
I mean I didn't push her down.

Speaker 8 (14:59):
I put your out of the way.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
That's a strong screen.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Nothing gets between you and your bread. Set a pick.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
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nine on Fox. All right, here we go o l
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Speaker 4 (15:27):
Love a good brook Again.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
In honor of Philip Rivers, we are doing a top
five athletes that canoe a body of water. Number five
Christian Ponder, pretty good, Number four, Dave Canalis, number three.

(15:51):
See see Sabbathia. You said it too slow, cee Ce Sabathia.
It is number two. Carnal Lake, Thank you, Thank you, guys.
Card Outlake I should have said Athletes and Entertainers number one,
Billy Ocean.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
I left that Nile Diggs.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
Ola.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
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Speaker 1 (16:29):
Mark Dominic could have joined us here in just a second.
Let's go to Dan Byers here, who is still working
out his Denver pick.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Dan take it away with the update.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
All good, Stu. Do you want to quick go back
to what happened? Yeah, as I was sitting here at
the news desk, it was no lie that the line
cut as soon as you tried to talk football. Is
he tried to put you back on the main road.
This is how it sounded on our end.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Okay, thanks, What are.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
You excited about this Cup Championship weekend?

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Because I mean that trash tag had to get your
flowing a little bit right.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I'm trying to know, I'm trying to get there. I am.
It's a weird, weird final four weird Championship Sunday. Then
that was it.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Can you guys just isolate whatever that digital sound was?

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Can I hear that again? To your best efforts you
tried and that's all we can ask.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Thank you, buddy, all right, I gotta tell you, Dan,
you do a great job of making me feel better
about myself.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
That is well done.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Mark Dominic has spent over twenty years in NFL front
offices at Scouting, former general manager of the Tampa Bay
Box and a very handsome man.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
He's going to join us right now. Mark, thanks for
joining us.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
First question here, what are the keys to remaining as
good looking as you are? Because I think you're a
year older than me, and you look about ten years
younger than I did.

Speaker 10 (17:58):
Yeah, I don't know what to say. I don't feel
I feel older than I want to. You know, it's
kind of a crazy thing, right, you actually always still
younger than you actually really are. And you know, I
think it's my three kids and my wife and everything
keeps me moving.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Right, Just keep moving. That's that's good advice. Yes, have
you ever seen this is insane? Honestly, Mark, have you
ever seen a coaching ca hersel like this like the
one we're going through right now?

Speaker 11 (18:24):
No?

Speaker 10 (18:25):
I never, In thirty years being in and around the league,
I can't remember anything. And the weird thing was, right,
before we got to the you know, the final weekend,
I thought, you know, it might be four coaches you know,
and this might be the lowest one in forever because
next year will be really bad. And then it turned out, well,
this is ten and that's insane, and so yeah, I mean,

(18:45):
the nice thing is it's a really good pool of opportunities.
The hard thing is is it's a lot of work
for these clubs, and when new people get added to
the mix, you know, it kind of throws the shift off.
And you can also see when you have this many people,
you know, obviously you might think you're getting the head
coach and suddenly they signed somewhere else or they canceled
the visit. So it's it's just very tricky and it's

(19:06):
a lot of work front office wise, it's a lot
of work for gym right now. It's actually you know,
wanting to be focused on you know, the Senior Bowl
and East West Shrine Game and instead camp.

Speaker 9 (19:15):
Yeah, Mark, I think a lot of people were shocked
that the Bills are interviewing Philip Rivers. You were you
got to Tampa Bay in ninety five, you left in
twenty thirteen. Who's the strangest guy that you brought in
for an interview where it's like, maybe we shouldn't bring
this guy in, but let's just hear him out.

Speaker 10 (19:35):
You know, I bought in a couple other college coaches
back in twenty twelve that was, you know, wanting just
to hear them out, and so I thought that that
was interesting because they'd had some success and they were
just different character or different type of personality. So i'd
say that I can't really you know, I don't want
to really say because when we did it.

Speaker 9 (19:54):
Yeah, I put you in a bad spot.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah he did. You really did?

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, you say it, Mark, Mark, don't be so nice
around here. We're not professional. I just say, tailor put
you in a horrible spot.

Speaker 10 (20:02):
You're good, But yeah, there was I've done that. When
I did a coach in search, that was like, I know,
I'm not going to hire them, but I just want
to understand what this guy's thinking. The other thing that
a lot of these clubs can do, you know, right now,
is really hard because there's so many people trying to
secure stuff because don't forget, you hire the head coach
and now you got to probably put an entire staff together,
and you've got ten staffs of ten different coordinators and

(20:23):
offensive defense and positional coach.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
I mean it's.

Speaker 10 (20:25):
Convoluted right now in terms of the amount of like
who's going where and who's getting what job. But there
are also teams that will use this to find out
information about upcoming unrestrictive free agents. So you know, maybe
you're you know, you know that you like a player
from the whatever, the Los Angeles Rams, and so therefore
you're going to interview one of their coordinators to find

(20:46):
out more information about the free agent. You don't want
to miss and spend eighty million dollars. You want to
make sure you're getting right guy. So there's a lot
of stuff going on besides just the hiring of the
head coach.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
There's some retired coach in Iowa somewhere whose highlight of
his career was in interviewing for the Tampa Bay Bucks job.
And now he's listening to his AM radio saying, wait
a second, was that just a cursery?

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Thanks for that?

Speaker 6 (21:07):
Taylor Mark did want to ask what.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
The actual coaches interviews entail, like what are you looking
for in that timeframe? That says, Okay, this gentleman definitely
is the guy who's going to run my organization.

Speaker 10 (21:22):
You know, there's lots of situations you'll put them through.
You'll talk to them about situational football outside of the game.
You'll certainly talk to them a lot about you know,
their their their overall fundamentals of what they believe in,
what's their philosophy, who are the coaches that they know
they can get or think they can get, and what's
how much of the staff is can they put together?

Speaker 11 (21:41):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (21:42):
But a big, the big part of it is just
letting them. They don't have a ton of time to
actually evaluate your team, so you can't just sit there
and go, well, tell me about my team outlooks. So
these guys are running around too, and so it's more
about just the feeling you get. Does the person motivate you,
do you see what they stand for, what they believe in,

(22:02):
and do you have that same fundamental belief And then
you spend as much time in that coaches interview as
you do trying to be on the phone around that coach,
trying to understand the people that have been around that coach,
what's he been like from players, coordinators, assistants, and then
also the success of their program where they've been. You know,
are they developing maybe an NFL. Are they developing players

(22:22):
and keep growing as the offense or defensive coordinator or
the position of coach or same with college. What kind
of the success of they doing recruiting, bringing people through
the system and getting to the NFL. And so you're
looking at all those different things. We're in the middle
of an interview talking about the different players, especially maybe
players from their team that they know so that you
already know, so that way you can kind of get
a sense of where their evaluation tip tendencies are as well.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
Mark Fernando Mendoza just declared for the draft today. If
you were the Raiders' front office, what would your level
of confidence be when it comes to Mendoza as a
quarterback prospect?

Speaker 10 (22:56):
Well, I think, I mean, I think it's it's almost
to the point where regardless you're taking him, so it
doesn't you know, you want to spend some time with him.
I know he's a quieter guy, but he also seen
you know that he's fit the gamesman and and tries
to do the right thing after every game. Go find
me whether it's the you know, opposing head coach or

(23:17):
he's trying to do everything the right way. You can't underestimate,
you know, what he's been able to accomplish. I think
you're going to spend time with him, but I think
you know, he decided he wanted to be a Raider.
I mean, that's basically what it is. I mean, I
understand why it came out and certainly going number one overall,
but that's your team. You picked the team. There's no
way the Raiders aren't taking him, and so this is
just it's going to be more of pick number two.

(23:38):
But it's exciting to watch Mendoz and kind of get
to learn who he is a little bit more as
where you start to go through the process.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Mark, if you have a quarterback of Josh Allen's caliber,
do you bring him in? Because it's clear that they
have do you bring him in? Is that the norm
in the NFL to bring him in on the decision
making and in terms of who the next head coach
is going to be?

Speaker 10 (23:57):
You know, I don't think so. I don't think it's
the norm, and I don't you know, I think I
would have brought Josh in and set him down and
just talked about the coaches on our staff. I think that,
to me makes more sense than anything else is like,
you know, what do you think of our coaches on
our staff, like specifically obviously on the offensive side of
the ball. I think that, to me is more critical

(24:19):
than thinking that, you know, let's have him be part
of the interview process, that he fits the right guy
fits him or vice versa. I don't think that that's
I don't think that's the best way to handle that,
and so therefore I'm not as big as a fan
and that capacity. I think it's more of the guys
that are on staff. Yes, totally understand that. And if
you want to talk about you know, your offensive coordinator, Josh,

(24:40):
let's have a real honest discussion about that, because I
think that's a real possibility or potential higher for them
because it just makes sense. And so you know, we'll see.
But in terms of hey, once you be part of
the Philip Rivers interview, you know, I just don't I
don't think that I would do that. I think he
could certainly say hi to him, but I don't want
to put him in the room with it, because I
just think that's different just a quick.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Helloh, I love that, Yes, but if it's Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Let's just say, and you know, as the offensive minded
guy that he is, that he will be implementing as
much of his offense or trying to find an offensive
coordinator that he could you know, vibe with and toss
a lot of similar ideas that way.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Wouldn't you want your franchise quarterback.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
To at least know or at least discuss this so
he could say right off the bat, hey, I don't
think that really works with my skill set.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
I have a difference of opinion then you do.

Speaker 10 (25:27):
I think what I would do is to go through
the first round unless the guy's harball and you're like, Okay,
we've got to figure out whether we're hiring him or not. Right,
but the McDaniels of the world or things like that,
I think what you do is you do the first
club interview with ownership and whoever's a part of the
head coaching hiring, and then I think if you're like, Okay,
that was pretty good. You know, he checks our box,
then I think that's when you kind of get you

(25:47):
can bring the quarterback in, especially when you have an
elite quarterback and see how that vibe feels between them,
But I don't think it's round one. I think that
they can know about it or say hey, like I said,
but I think I wouldn't really spend a lot of
time making sure you know that, uh in the first level,
but the second level when I bring the candidate back in,
then I think it's critical that your your quarterback or

(26:09):
whoever is, you know, the big part of that team,
whether it's the defensive you know, linebacker three technique outside
Russier or whatever it is corner, that they would meet
him to kind of get a vibe of how that goes.
I mean I did that when you know, I drafted
my first quarterback I took when we brought him into town,
I brought my offensive line and I had them go
out to dinner with him and just tell me what
you guys think that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
So, how would you handle what is going on with
Howie Roseman right now? And I'm wondering in terms of
A J. Brown And I'm wondering Mark, how you would
handle that situation? And how do you think how wee
is handling that situation?

Speaker 10 (26:42):
Yeah, I think when you when you look at this
one and you you you see what the Eagles have
been or what they've been able to do. I think
you're you're trying to really more so look at your
entire roster figure out what can you handle in terms
of this off season, what's it going to be like?
And you know, where's where's our money and what kind
of money? What what do we actually have that we
can spend out there? And then you look at your

(27:02):
own team and you talk about like the fit. But
I think until they get the coordinator set, whether that's
Matt Maggie, whoever it might be for the Eagles, I
think you just play it low key right now and
you just just let days go on. And then I
think when you get if you and how he's probably
going to Singia Bowl, I know scouts will be there,
but certainly by the time you get to the combiner
before that, uh, you know, you find out whether his interest.

(27:24):
That's where you know what I did before I was GM,
I was director of pro and one of my jobs
was to call around to thirty one of the clubs
of the course of you know, especially right around now,
and say, hey, I'm just kind of curious, who are
the guys that are on the market for your team,
Like who's an so I can start watching them because
it's not just free agency, it's also those opportunities, and
I got to think how he's exploring that.

Speaker 9 (27:45):
Mark. If you could have one of these final four
rosters from from conference championship weekend, which team would you take?

Speaker 10 (27:54):
That's a fun question, I think, you know. The truth
for me would probably be the use of the RAMS
defense is very exciting. My scare is that I don't
know how much more I've got Matt Stafford left comparatively
to all the other rosters. So that's that's a really
that's a hard one for me to not take the
Rams because just there's so many pieces there that I
think are very exciting. I think probably Seattle's probably second

(28:21):
because it looks like Sam Darnold has done everything they
can ask. And I would shout out to John Schneider.
If there's a a GM that knows when to part
with quarterbacks better than John Schneider, I'm not sure who
it is, right, I mean, he obviously got Russell Wilson
and everybody's like, Eh, then he had Genal Smith he's like,
and now he finds Sam Darnold. He knows how to
figure out that quarterback room and boy, that's critical. But

(28:41):
I would say I would say Rams, Seahawks truthfully, Broncos
and Patriots, which is really exciting for Patriot fans because
I think there's still a lot of potential upside there.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Mark.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Did Taylor redeem himself or no? It seems like he did.

Speaker 10 (28:54):
Oh yes, much better, much better.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Spirit, he's learning, he's yes, yes, and he's so excited
that you answered with a fun question.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
I have another fun question.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
If you're an owner, I make you an NFL owner,
who are you hiring to be your general manager?

Speaker 10 (29:17):
You know, at this point I would probably go after
somebody that's had a shot but it didn't work out.
And I'm not saying that for any other reason, but like,
I think Joe Douglas is a good general manager. I
just don't think things went the right way for him.
But knowing Joe and how hardy works and what he's about,
he's a guy that he's a boy you know, maybe
just wasn't the cookie with I mean, you look at

(29:39):
Robert Soley, he's got another chance to be head coach.
But yet you know it's like we why wouldn't Joe
Douglas get another shot to be GM, so I would
really probably lean towards Joe first as as I see
he's interviewing, which makes logical sense. But Joe seems like
a guy that I think he just needs a different circumstance,
and I think it might have turned out differently for him.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
Before we get you out of here, Mark, you hear
a lot about Lamar Jackson and people getting excited about
him possibly moving. When you see that even as a possibility,
how realistic does it seem. I'm not talking about this
particular move, but I'm saying a quarterback in his you know,
twenty nine thirty year old prime, how realistic is one

(30:20):
of those guys changing teams?

Speaker 10 (30:22):
I just don't think it's very realistic at all. I
think when you go down that rabbit hole, you better
have a one hundred percent answer for what you're doing next.
And it's not Cooper Russian, it's not Tyler hunting right,
and it's just it's just not And so in this
draft class is not bringing with young quarterback talent. It's

(30:43):
got quite a few gaps as you go down, and
I think there's really interesting stuff in the third, fourth,
and fifth round, but first and second round it's actor Mendoza.
It's it's pretty quiet in my opinion, you know, so overall,
so I think for the Ravens, to me, it's let's
go another year, Let's get the new coach in here,
let's see how everything feels, and then make a decision,
like if you want to, you know, consider another avenue.

(31:05):
But I just don't think there's anything out there that
really makes sense other than staying with Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
Because teams don't punt, right, there's no scenario you could say, Okay,
I'll take that great offer, even if it means next
year is going to be just a wasted year. You
try to find the happy medium.

Speaker 10 (31:20):
There, right, Yeah, and the grass isn't always greener, as
we all know. And you know, it's so it's so
easy to say, well, just you'll just you know, you
get all these draft picks, you know, draft a quarterback
in twenty twenty seven or whatever. Okay, that sounds all good.
But if your team goes three and fourteen, I mean,
I didn't you know, we saw the head coaches that

(31:40):
got fired. You know, only a couple of GMS got fired.
I think gms are in a lot more trouble next
year than head coaches are just because at some point,
you know that's going to call in the other way,
it's gonna be like, what, let's look at the roster.
So my point in all that is, yeah, you can
have draft picks, but you might not get to use them,
or just because you draft a quarterback, as we see,
you know, not every everyone's going to work out. I
mean this time last year, I think people are all

(32:03):
you know, no one was very very excited about uh,
you know, Drake May, and everybody's like, like, I can't wait
to see more Michael Pennix. And now it's like, well,
now Drake May's got the lead, and so you know,
it's just just because it sounds good on paper and
it seems like, yeah, just draft a quarterback. Okay, he's
got to pan out, and that's that's such a hard
job to play.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
One more quick one. We'll get you out of here.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
We appreciate the time Mark Dominic with does Mark what
is uh what is getting rich? Can you explain to
the audience We're in South Florida, a lot of Dolphin
fans listening. Can you explain what cutting Tua would mean
to the Miami Dolphins in ways that we would understand.

Speaker 10 (32:40):
Well, I mean, I think the main thing when you
look at TUA is trying to, you know, really kind
of work through what that contract implication will be, right,
and how does that all come hitting your club of
financially and and and what's the burn And I think
when you look at what it could be if they
get rid of to A it's a massive hit. But
you know, but his base salary I'm trying to remember

(33:02):
in my mind, I know he's based out. He's almost
forty million dollars right in twenty twenty eighty six, and so, uh,
you know, it's it's a it's it's a heavy number.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (33:13):
And at the same point, I think it's not fully
guaranteed right now, I think it let me see if
I remember.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Right, I was by a dead yeah, a dead cap
hit of ninety nine million dollars of the year, right, and.

Speaker 10 (33:26):
Then in the cap the natural cap hit is fifty six.
I mean, it's it's it's to the point where it's
it's Deshaun Watson, you have to move. What you'd have
to do is handle this way that the Cleveland Browns
handled to Shawn Watson, meaning we're going to have to
you know, forward, think a lot of salary cap places
we're gonna have to create, you know, lower as many
players on our team base salaries, replace that with signing bonus.

(33:47):
And what that means is that ownership has to be
willing to write a lot of checks this offseason. And
so like a guy that's making let's say ten million
dollars in our team, you can take him down to
the minimum salary and give him a signing bonus and
parade his contract, you know a little bit longer, and
now suddenly his salar kept slower. You're gonna have to
do with a lot of players to be able to
absorb this. But that means mister Ross has to write
a lot of checks to a lot of veteran players

(34:09):
right now, which makes them a little more guaranteed money.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
All right, Mark, we appreciate the time. This was great.
Thank you for doing it. We hope to have you
on again if you're willing to deal with Taylor and
his bad questions.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Thank you so much, sir.

Speaker 10 (34:20):
I know why you guys put me on radio not TV.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I get it still, I mean, oh no, I want
to see you on TV, sir, Yes, okay, thank you.

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(35:03):
We do them before we get in here every day,
Stickatson Company and God Bless football is He.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
We have a ton of callers here.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I promised you a conversation about Joel EMBIID let's have
that conversation quickly, if you don't mind.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Before we get to the call.

Speaker 6 (35:19):
Now, I gotta rest this conversation.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
You don't have to well, I mean, it's just I'm
intrigued what you think of Joel Embi because the guy
won MVP, A guy who yesterday was a two year
anniversary of him scoring seventy points in a game.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Wow, and so yesterday.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
He had a triple double, a thirty point triple double,
and they beat the Sixers, did beat the Houston Rockets
in overtime, and needed to come back to do it.
He is saying he is almost back to his, you know,
MVP type of level. Nick Nurse is saying, they're getting
pretty close. That type of game against a good defensive

(35:54):
team like Houston is impressive, right, But I'm curious what
he would have to do for you to believe that
he is back to who he was and he is
somebody that we should even take seriously, because I'll tell you,
I watched every minute of that game yesterday and I
don't care what the final stat sheet said.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
He did not look like an MVP. He'd look like
a foul.

Speaker 7 (36:17):
Baiting, slow, defensively talented offensive player who happens to have
an MVP candidate next to him in Tyres MAXI. I'm
asking you because I believe you and I have similar
opinions on it.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Hasn't won a playoff series since twenty twenty threes, twenty
nine and thirty overall in the postseason.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Do it in the postseason, win a championship. He's a
generational talent.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
He is in a postseason a broken face or a
broken knee.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
I mean, all right, or do that?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I mean, but twenty nine and thirty in the postseason,
you know what they should do. They should hire Patrick
Ewing as their head coach to help him get over
the hump.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
About that, maybe, Kareem the funny, it's just you know,
I feel for Philly fans, right because here even yet
last night that granted it wasn't over, I mean they've
been just so just.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
The Sixers, right, just the six go ahead, They've been
stuck with him.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
And even yesterday he played forty six minutes and yes,
again it was a good win. Yes it was a
good performance by him to get that out of him
in the.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Regular season in January.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
But do you really believe that you're going to be
able to maintain he's going to be able to maintain
this level of minutes load, get to a postseason and
then be reliable for you in that postseason.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Why would you believe that you have no proof of
him being able to do so? So why would anyone
believe that?

Speaker 7 (37:43):
And so to me, I would throw I mean, the
Sixers wouldn't do this there in playoff position or what
have you. But if I were in positioned with the
Philadelphia seventies six ers, I would have been looking to
trade him the second he got healthy, the second.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
You can last.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
Yeah, all you need is a let's say, all star level.
You don't need an MVP level. You need a high
quality big to play with those guys. And can I
tell you what Paul George did last night, because this
is it's just a hilarious situation you have in Philadelphia.
Paul George, who was supposed to bring Joel Embat over
the top. He plays thirty seven minutes and has ten points,
only nine shot attempts, while Kelly Ubre is out there

(38:20):
going ten for fourteen and Kelly Ubra and giving you
twenty six. So it's just it feels like things have
turned in Philadelphia, where Joelle just give me something, right
because MAXI and now maybe Edgecombe are gonna take us
to where we want to go. And yeah, because if
you watch him play, he's just you know, he's gonna

(38:41):
let you down again because this version of him can
get you some numbers, but he's not going to be
a dominant force over any long stretch.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Paul George is a sixer.

Speaker 7 (38:50):
That's that's the type of buy in that I want
from you in these conversations.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
What let's just go to a collin, Let's go to al.
This is a tough one. I have to to say
very slowly, Al in Albuquerque. Go ahead, Al, it's a
real person.

Speaker 12 (39:04):
Yes, Al, I just wanted to let you know I'm
listening live on Fox Sports thirteen fifty AM in Albuquerque.
It's the first time I've listened to AM radio in
like twenty five years, so thank.

Speaker 11 (39:19):
You for that.

Speaker 12 (39:21):
The only AM radio I have is my emergency weather
radio in my car, which I haven't touched in like
five years, and it still works somehow. And yeah, I
also just just want to say, is he joel embiid
is a slightly better yao ming? How about that?

Speaker 6 (39:35):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Wow? Yeah, I would like every call to end with
how about that? Can we do that?

Speaker 6 (39:41):
How's my voice sound in the am? Little Crackley?

Speaker 9 (39:44):
Give it take?

Speaker 4 (39:44):
How about that? Yeah? See you later.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yes, makes Taylor, you're screening the calls back there in
the VIP room. Make sure they all end it with
how about that? Thank you for the call, Alan, Thank
you for dusting off the old AM radio for us.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
At eleven fifty out there in Albuquerque.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yes, very well done, is he. Let's go to a
Donovan in Arlington, Washington. Go ahead, Donovan, Hey.

Speaker 10 (40:05):
So I got top fire five athletes that connote bodies
of water.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Okay, so hey listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you
do all five. Just you know number one you have
to deliver a how about that afterwards?

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (40:16):
Oh absolutely, all right, all right, Number five Jason say,
well you can.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Get the sound too, look at you, you're special. Go ahead,
number go.

Speaker 13 (40:27):
Ahead, number four, Drew Lock.

Speaker 10 (40:33):
Number three, Brandon Marshall.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Oh nice, Number.

Speaker 10 (40:38):
Two, Wade Box number number one, screwy.

Speaker 13 (40:45):
Ruise exactly, it's Estuary, but it's pronounced ruie.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Yes, yes, I got it, but you forgot to deliver
a lie to the very end.

Speaker 13 (40:59):
They pay Happy New Year, Issy, how about that?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
That's say hi to ur Briles for us. Let's go
to Nathan in Lancaster, California.

Speaker 11 (41:13):
Go ahead, Nathan, you gots have nine copies of your
personal record book. How about that?

Speaker 4 (41:21):
How about that?

Speaker 6 (41:22):
Yes, how come you don't have to I'm going to say,
couldn't afford that?

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Take on?

Speaker 11 (41:27):
Maybe if you get this question right I want to
play a game with you. Can you name the title
to the first chapter of your book. It's about Kevin Durant.
Is it A? Michael would never be zero rings, B
no Guts, no glory. Which one is the correct title?

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (41:50):
What it?

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Stanzi? Title can't be a right.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
They never offer up A as the right option right
off the bat.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
I believe it's see is see the correct answer?

Speaker 11 (42:03):
He is the correct answer.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
No, Yeah, you know what I got for you, Nathan.
You know what I got for you, Nathan? How about that?
Thank you for the call. We'll take a quick time out.
Hour two coming up next
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