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July 2, 2025 • 46 mins

Ben Maller opens this 'Best of' edition of the show reacting to the Milwaukee Bucks signing Myles Turner and subsequently releasing Damian Lillard. Why is Lillard reportedly so happy to be on the way out of Milwaukee? Why weren't the Pacers willing to pay as much as the Bucks for Turner? Ben also reacts to reports that four different teams have reached out to Rich Paul for a potential LeBron James trade. Then, he gets into the news that Brook Lopez is choosing to sign with the Clippers over the Lakers. Plus, more fun with a new editions of 'Too Much or Not Enough?' and 'Maller to the 3rd Degree'!

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Speaker 3 (01:49):
And if you didn't see this.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Perhaps in a big shake up, oh my god, a
big shap although the guy was gonna play anyway next season.
If you didn't see it from Pro Bouncy Ball, Dame
time has ended. No more dam at least for the Bucks.
If you have not heard, and maybe you have missed
it here, the Milwaukee Bucks have said bye bye to

(02:11):
one of their star players. No, they did not trade Dame.
They did not trade Giannis, but they did leave many
around the NBA thunderstruck. As it is game over for
Dame Lillard there and see you later. They agreed to
a four year contract one hundred and seven million dollars

(02:32):
for former Indiana Pacers center Miles Turner. You might remember
he played for the Pacers for the longest amount of
time of anyone currently on the Pacers. They were in
the NBA Finals and he was the top free agent
on the market and he is no longer at market.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
He has come off the market.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Milwaukee did not have enough cap space to sign Miles Turner,
so they circumvented the salary cap, proving yet again the
cap is crap even in the NBA, and so they
created the necessary room to add Miles Turner by waving
Damian Lillard. He was fired by the Milwaukee Bucks. Out

(03:15):
of course, in the NBA, when you're an All Star
and you've got a decorated resume, they call it released.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
They don't say you're fired, they say it's released.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Milwaukee will pay him more than one hundred and ten million.
That's guaranteed money the final two years of the contract,
and it's essentially a dead cap hit. Something that happens
quite a bit in the NFL world is happening now
in basketball. So Damian Lillard, who dealt with the snap

(03:44):
Crackle Pop, goes the Achalles during the playoffs and the
story is he's elated. Reports say Dame Lillard elated, elated,
the Bucks decided to get rid of him. So let
us discuss the question why why is Damian Lillard so

(04:05):
happy that Milwaukee is firing him? So I've got Hallmark
telescope and alligator.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And we will combine all of.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
These things together, and we were gonna put the biscuit
in the basket, is what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
So a Dame Times.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
His reaction here is what we call a dead giveaway.
It is a dead giveaway. He never wanted to go
to the state of Wisconsin. Every man, woman and child
knew that to pay attention to right, we all knew
that you want to go there.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Now, you didn't make a big stick about it. But
deep down he had his heart set on Miami.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
He was eyeing Miami palm trees and cocktails and sunshine.
And he went to overcast, dreary skies, chili weather Milwaukee,
and the Trailblazers were use to accommodate Lillard's desires, his
wants and needs back in the day, and so he
went to Wisconsin there and he didn't want to go there,

(05:08):
And so he did his time with the Bucks. And
now he has been given a Milwaukee mulligan. He's got
the mulligan, Dame Lillard and one hundred and thirteen million.
That's not punishment. Your employer is paying you one hundred
and thirteen million. You don't have to work for them,

(05:29):
my god. And the reason he's so happy is he's
obviously not going to be playing for Milwaukee anymore. And
Lillard will end up getting another at least one hundred
million dollars on top of the one hundred thirteen million dollars.
And this is a microcosm, is it not, of the
modern NBA landscape In the year twenty twenty five, the

(05:53):
superstar player gets the divorce. It is so routine now,
it is so I'm in you do not even need
a lawyer at this point. Now, this is more extreme
than most. But Dame Time got his freedom and he
gets a big, giant, cartoon sized buyout check the Bucks
clear salary cap space, and everyone.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Just hugs it out. It's like they're in a Hallmark movie.
And Lillard moves on to his next team and then
that's that. In Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
On his way out, they say, all right, dam we
will give you a golden parachute, and it's cloth has
been weaved with gold, we melted it down, we weaved
it in there, and it allows him to handpick his
next team, whoever that might be the usual suspects. And
despite being on crutches because his Achilles is all messed

(06:44):
up and shredded. Damian Lillar will be doing the mating
dance with prospective employers. They'll play footsie and they'll flicker
their eyes and all that. He will not be able
to play until at the minimum February of next year.
So it's October, November, December.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
January, maybe even the whole year.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
But the early reports are he should be able to
play by some time in February of next year. So
where will he Well, you keep an eye in the heat.
They don't have anybody good. They suck the Miami heat,
so that's an obvious one. A team like the Denver
Nuggets could see them. They're shaking things up, moving some
things around. Could see that then, and who knows, go

(07:24):
back to the trail blass to try to win. So
could go back there. He obviously regretted when he laughed.
He's like, well, this life on the other side of
the grass is not always greener. If it is, maybe
I don't like that green. I like a different shade
of green. Meanwhile, so let's go out of the other
part of this. And that's the Milwaukee Bucks part of it.

(07:44):
Is it true or false? The Milwaukee Bucks were being reckless, reckless,
as some indicated by buying out Dame Lillard to get
their hands on Miles turn. This is being described the
word was used. That was the word that was used
on this. So it's sure or false. So on my
scorecard I wrote down false with a capital F. False

(08:09):
with a capital Now, the idea that the Bucks were
somehow reckless and going rogue and all that by buying
out Damian Lillard's contract and pivoting towards Milestroner, I find
that laughable with a capital L.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I do.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
This is about not about being reckless. It's about a
different R word, being realistic. That's the word I will
use here because in the NBA, you build around You
don't really build around a system or a culture. Everyone
loves to talk about those things, but you don't really
build around those things. You build around a superstar player

(08:47):
period stop. And when you've got a once in a
generation player Yannis identa cumba like the Milwaukee Bucks have
their hands on a generational town blah blah, one man
wrecking crew, etcetera, etcetera. The Greek God and high tops
all that stuff. You do whatever you have to do,

(09:08):
to pacify him. And so this is Yanis's franchise. Now
we all know that.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
And they go, they go to hell when he leaves.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
So if you look at this through a telescope, get
the old telescope out. I mean, you look at the telescope.
Yannis in this solar system and Milwaukee bucks hierarchy is
the sun. He is the moon, He is the cheese Kurds.
He is the cheese in Milwaukee basketball. And that's it.

(09:37):
And this is the cost of modern contention because once
Janice is done there, it's all over, right, it's all
it's all over. So you either pay now or you
pay later. So Yannis, when he walks out the door,
at some point you figure I'll play with somebody else
before he's done in Milwaukee. Then it's all over. So

(09:58):
this was the word is calculated. It's a calculated move
because you say it's desperate if you want, and you'll
call it whatever.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
But I would not use the word reckless. I would not.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
And the movie is about keeping Yannis engaged and you know,
smiling and all that stuff, and contending and competing and
but staying, staying, because you got to have about twenty
draft lottery appearances before you get another player like Yannis,
and the moment that he leaves and the door closes

(10:33):
behind him, Milwaukee becomes just another small market, go nowhere,
filler spam team in the NBA, and they'll have the
memories of Giannis and then wherever he goes, they can
watch him and the broken dreams of him playing for
somebody else, and then maybe their arena.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Will become haunted by the ghosts of what could have been.
So you whole lot of that.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
So if you have the price is you got to
pay one hundred and thirteen million dollars in money for
a guy it's not going to be on your team.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
You spread that out over a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
But you do that because you get a couple more
years out of Gianni's before he demands to be traded
to the.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Knicks or the Warriors or the Clippers or something like that.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
All right now, the last word here, So were the
Pacers being El Cheapo? We're the Pacers being El Cheapo
in letting Miles Turner leave for a team in their division,
the Milwaukee Bucks. Because the story out of Indiana Pacers
riding high. They were in the NBA finals year and

(11:32):
the whole thing and got all the way down to
the bitter end of the NBA Finals than that. So
does a dog get fleece? Is my response. We're the
Pacers being cheap. Let's hear. So let's do the arithmetic.
So Miles Turner is gone. He's not staying in Indiana.
Not because he wanted to leave, if you believe his

(11:54):
own words. Not because of that, Not because he didn't
fit playing alongside type Halliburton's got his own achilles injury
or not because he couldn't.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Get it done on the court anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Not because of that, Not because he was not a
productive member of the team that got to the bloody
NBA Finals the Pacers did, and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
When you break it all down, you add the numbers
up and you put them in the calculator. Miles Turner
is gone because the Pacers, the ownership group there, once
again refused to spend like they you have to spend
a certain amount, you get to a certain point and
everyone gets paid a lot of money there and you

(12:37):
have to pay to keep that talent together. And they
didn't want to do it. It's not the first time.
It's not the last.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Time, and this is it.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's no different than in baseball the Tampa Bay Rays,
whoever so often have a team that gets far in
the playoffs, and then they immediately.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Start dumping players.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I can't afford this guy for that guy, and you're gone,
and you're gone, and you're gone, and there you go.
So just whatever success the Pacers have, we know that
it will not last. It's just the latest example. And
I have no skin in the game because I'm not
I'm not there, I'm not a fan of the team.
I just know from the outside and looking down from

(13:20):
thirty thousand feet that this is a tradition. It is
an endearing tradition of the Pacers. When the check gets
really really big, the Pacers they pull back the pen
is what they do. They want to pay that. It's
kind of like when you go out to a nice
meal with some friends and the check comes and it's

(13:43):
time to pay the bill, and suddenly the Pacers they're
there and they had a great time. They enjoyed the
nice bread with the garlic olive dip there. They like that,
they like the fetichini alfredo, they like some of the
other dishes. And then when it was time to pay,
they become an alligator alligator arms. Suddenly they can't reach
the check. And that's the Indiana Pacers. They had success,

(14:05):
they tasted it. Everyone seemed happy. There was a fluke
run to the NBA Finals, and so how do they
handle that. They're like, yeah, you know, cheapness. Rick, Carlisle
and Halliburn, these guys were, oh yeah. Carlile said it
was a priority, that Miles Turner was a priority.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Said that back at April.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
They all said the right things, because this is why
you don't take what people say for more than just
face value. And it was their priority until it came
time to actually pay the money. And so keeping Miles Turner,
we are told here that keeping Miles Turner around, that
that would have meant going into the traded luxury tax.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Oh my god, horror of horrors. That is something the
Pacers have not done in a generation.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Twenty years. Having done it, haven't gone there, not going
to do it now. So the Pacers blinked and Miles
Turner said bye bye. He bolted out of there like
a horse running at the start of the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Got out of there.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
And you can't really blame him for doing that. Indiana
had a chance to keep him. They fetched around, They
left around, and they found out. They eft around, they
found out, and so they chose their favorite player.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
They love the almighty dollar.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Save a couple of shekels, and so the Pacers will
save some dollars and all that. And while they did that,
they watched the longest tenured player go out the door.
And not just go out the door and go out
somewhere in the Western Conference. No, no, no, no, he will
come back to be a poltergeist, Miles Turner, at least
for the next couple of years. He will hunt him
as he will be in the same division, any division

(15:49):
rival team that the Pacers had owned in recent years
in the playoffs. Well, now Myles Turner gone, and so
they'll have to get somebody else and figure that out
and throw it against the wall like spaghetti and see
it sticks against the wall. Yeah, it's a sad, sad
So it's not a sad story.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
It's just a rather pathetic.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
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a huge scandal. But now we're getting the as the
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Speaker 3 (17:32):
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Speaker 1 (17:39):
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Speaker 1 (18:17):
It is the Lebron Life. Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Get away from me.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Even when it shouldn't be about Lebron, it is about Lebron.
Welcome in the beginning of another hour of the Ben
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Show be So later this hour we will have a guest.
He's given me this he wants to I'm not going
to say what it is. That's that's a clue. He'll
be in It's like a clown.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
He'll be in here later this hour. But our lead
is from La La Land.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
In another day, Another wrinkle in the Lebron drama Orama
you've not been following. Perhaps not now I do get
paid to follow this. I don't know that I would
pay this close attention if I didn't have this job.
In fact, I would guarantee. But I have the job,
and I do find it interesting. So Lebron's agent, the

(20:07):
person that Lebron buddied years ago, that has been writing
Lebron James Cotails all these years, Rich Paul.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
So.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Rich Paul says that as many as not one, not two,
not three, but four four NBA teams have already inquired
about trading for Lebron from the Lakers. Of course they've
gone to Rich Paul, because you don't negotiate a trade
with Lebron unless unless Rich Paul says it's okay. So

(20:37):
that comes amid reports that Lebron has given a hostage
note to the Lakers, hostage note about if you don't
make the roster the way I want the roster, you're
out of here.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I'm gone. I'm gonna seek a trade. Now.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
He did pick up his fifty two million dollars player
option to return, possibly to the Lakers, but that has
not stopped the rumor orama from picking up steam here
that he's gonna change teams, he's gonna go somewhere else,
and all this stuff. So let us discuss the question,
how do you process all right? How do you process

(21:15):
supposedly four teams contacting.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Rich Paul for a Lebron James trade.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
So on this one, I've got flare Gun, Feather and
Applebee's and we will combine all of these things together
and we are gonna make some lucky charms, like a
leprechaun would have you a lucky trip. Now, number one,
I said, number one, Yeah, get out the old magnifying glass.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
I did.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I got the magnifying glass out on this one. So
this is what's known as vague headline harvesting. It is
vague headline harvesting, no names, no offers, no actual news.
It wasn't like the Knicks, the Timberwolves, the Warriors, the Rockets.

(22:05):
It was just four teams. And it's not four out
of thirty because it was twenty nine other teams other
than the Lakers. And you immediately eliminate the Charlotte Hornets,
the Brooklyn Nets, teams that aren't even trying to feel
the competitive team. But it's just enough, just enough bait

(22:26):
that it'll feed the content cycle for a day, and
you take the hook.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
On that and you kind of run with it.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
And it's not like it's the twenty ten We're not
going back fifteen years the decision by Lebron at a
boys and girls club in Connecticut.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
We're not doing that. And so this is not really
so much as a report, if.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
You will, It is more of like a flare gun
by Rich Paul. If you imagine Rich Paul shooting up
a flare from the top of Clutch Mountain, beautiful Clutch Mountain,
and signaling to the NBA world that Rich Paul is
still calling the shots, that Rich Paul is still in
charge both on and off the court, and if you

(23:13):
want a meeting with the King, you have to visit
Rich Paul. Now, I maintain my take. I have not
altered my take from the previous edition of the show.
Lebron is not going anywhere. He's not unless unless he
wants to go somewhere. All Lebron is doing right now
through Rich Paul is just keeping his.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Name talked about. That's it, right.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
If Lebron got to the point where he actually wanted
a trade, Rich Paul would have shams in one ear
and he'd have Adam Silver in the other before skinny jeans.
Rob Polinka could even boot up the trade machine on
the Internet and see what he could get for Lebron.
So forget about that, and you can bet the phrase

(24:00):
four teams. I saw that lot, Rich Paul. Four teams,
four teams picked very carefully, right, Not several, not multiple teams.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
It was four. That sounds surgical, an exact number, four.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Teams, not five, not six, not seven, right, strategic suggesting
what suggesting? Something simmering And again my position, Spider of Art,
nothing simmering. There's nothing on the back burner at all.
We're supposed to believe that contenders are lining up to
trade for a forty year old Lebron James with more

(24:38):
miles than a rental car and massive salary. I believe
his salary fifty three million is the g DP the
domestic product there of like Micronesia.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I believe I'd have to go check.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
But all because Rich Paul said, you said something to
a few NBA insiders and then they repeated it, and
that led to the Internet doing its thing, and we're
off to the races and all that. Because Lebron's not
just your run of the mill older player. Lebron's going
to control everything. Like one of the theories is the

(25:14):
reason Lebron's grumbling is because now he's no longer the
king of the team that Luca. It's like lucas the
center of the universe in Lakerland, and that's bothering Lebron.
Like Lebron's like, no, I'm no king, King Lebron, where
would he go?

Speaker 3 (25:33):
You're gonna go back to Cleveland. I don't think he's
going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I mean, this is the Lebron Show, and Rich Paul
is the executive producer of The Lebron Show. And I'll
believe it when Lebron goes somewhere else. I don't believe
these initial round of rumors. Although it is good engagement,
It's good engagement for me, all right. Meanwhile, turning the page,
So the Lakers had a very embarrassing week here we're
into early July, but the start of NBA free agency.

(25:57):
The Lakers wanted to add a center, and any believed
they had circled the wagons for Brook Lopez, who had
been a free agent from the Milwaukee Bucks played with
the Lakers in the past, then went back to Milwaukee,
and that was the guy they wanted. That was the centerpiece,
and he is bringing his towns to Los Angeles. But

(26:18):
brook Lopez will be a Clipper, not a Laker. So
why why would brook Lopez picked the Clippers over the Lakers?
Explain that to me like, I'm five years old, So
I'll explain it to you in forwards.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
You ready, here they are. It's hip. Two clip, boom,
drop the mic, hit the clip. Yep, that's right, thank you.
There you go. Yeah, it's hip the clip. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Another feather in the cap of the Clipper ship there
and a swing batter, a whiff for skinny jeans, Rob
Polenka another with They're also more on Dorian Finney Smith,
who the Lakers had and wanted to keep. He also
left to go play for the Roquets to hang out
with mister Irrigation in Houston. But the Lakers they cannot close.

(27:16):
It's been a problem. It's been an ongoing problem here.
And listen Lopez. Well, some people say, well he's old,
you know what you want a guy like that, He's
an older player. But make no mistake, brook Lopez still
is able to defend the rim and those three point
shots the moneyball from brook Lopez like a stretch four.

(27:39):
Pretty pretty good from Brook Lopez. And it's not a
minor move. It's not a major move. It's not a
minor move. It's in the middle, and it's a savvy
strategic addition by the people's team and a front office
the Clippers that unlike the Purple and Gold, where they
love to tell you how great they are, right they

(27:59):
go around, they leak every negotiation. Everything is out there,
you know, whether it's shams or somebody else, and they
scream about how great their culture is and you know,
the pride of the other bull crap with the Lakers
and all this stuff, and people buy into it. Low
information fans buy into it. It's a failure. The Clippers

(28:21):
saw a need and they filled it and Brook low
pezel player a fair amount of minutes until he gets
hurt because he's older and all that stuff. And meanwhile,
the Lakers, though they were in the mix.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
In the mix, and that's been a status they've had
for a lot of the players they've wanted to get
in recent years.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
In the mix. On the radar.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
They're on the radar, the finalist until they're not. And
what Rob Polenka needs skinny jeans Rob Blinka is he
needs another.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Assist from Nico Harrison.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Is there any way that Nico Harrison and Adam Silver
can just give some more good players to the Lakers,
because without help, without the push from the NBA and
Nico Harrison to bail him out on his own devices,
it has not gone well for Skinny G's and Brook
Lopez clearly has more confidence the Clippers will make a

(29:14):
further run than the Lakers. Otherwise the money be about
to say he would have gone to the Lakers. And
so we'd rather play with Kawhi Leonard and James Harden
than the Pillsbury dough boy hook Luka and Lebron who's
playing a foot seat with leaving even though we don't
think he actually will be all right now. Final point,
So new team, same old KD, Same old KD. Some

(29:37):
internet investigators had a field day because it turns.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Out that if you didn't see this.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
In a recent guest appearance on Lebron's podcast, Kevin Durant
spoke at length about a number of basketball related issues,
including shot selection and when to give up the ball
and when not to give up the ball and all
that stuff. So one of the things he said was
how Kevin Durant said he would rather the ball be

(30:06):
in the best player's hands than to pass it to
someone like Dorian Finney Smith with the clock winding down. Now,
the reason this is interesting is because not only did
Kevin Durant end up on the Rockets, but also his
new teammate is Dorian Finney Smith.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Ding ding ding ding ding.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, Durant didn't just say I prefer to take the
last shot. No, no, no, He went next level. So how awkward?
How awkward are things going to be for Kevin Durant
and Dorian Finney Smith now that they will be brothers
in arms, they will be comrades with the Houston Rockets.
So again, the fact that Durant didn't keep this vague,

(30:49):
and I'm happy he didn't. In his wildest dreams, he
clearly did not imagine a world where he would have
a teammate named Dorian Phinney Smith and they'd be playing together.
But here you are, right here you are, And so
the normal response is I just prefer to take the
last shot. He didn't say that, though. Again, he basically
said why in the world would I pass.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
To that guy who happens to be.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
His teammate now? And man, it's gonna be fun. I'm
not a big chemistry guy. You can't hate each other though.
You can't go into it hating each other. And you
got Durant already calling out teammates. No, he didn't didn't
work with the Rockets. He wasn't a rocket when he
recorded this. But the fact that he said it and

(31:34):
he named the name, he named him, he said the name,
he said it. How great is that first get together
going to be like they have the team meeting, they
have the first team then they go out to an Applebee's, Yeah,
and they're they're ordering And then do they sit Dorian
Finney Smith at the kiddie table? Does he sit at
the kids table? Is he allowed with the rest of

(31:55):
the team there. And it's not even about his skill set,
not only he's on average NBA player. I think Dorian
Phinney Smith is an average NBA player. He's like roster fillers.
Sometimes he'll be okay, most of the time, you don't
notice he's there. Sometimes he's terrible's he's just there, and.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
But very awkward, very very awkward and it's.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's an equivalent of like over the weekend, you come
into the office on a Monday. You show up to
work on a Monday, and you find out that the
boss was trying was just ripping your new one, trash
talking you at happy hour on a Saturday, and some
of your coworkers were there and like they heard stuff,
and it's we're not even close to this time where

(32:38):
they get together.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
The season starts really in October.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Training camp will begin and the season will begin at
the end of October, and all this stuff, and we've
got the drama. Who's got the drama. They've got the drama.
So maybe Dorian Phinney Smith comes in there and just
shrugs it off, and at least that's what we do publicly.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
It'll inspire him to play better. It all fuel, give
him some jet fuel.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Maybe he will knock down a bunch of three point
shots and they'll hang out. Durant and Finny Smith will
be buddy buddy, right, they'll sing Kumbaya and roast marshmallows
and all that stuff. But this is the NBA twenty
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(33:22):
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Speaker 1 (33:56):
Also, we are moments away from brick on logic and
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Speaker 2 (34:18):
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Speaker 1 (34:24):
We see, uh, let's just see this guy wants to
play Tree. You want to play the game Tree in Chicago?
Would you like to play the game Tree? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
You're down, all right?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Hold on, say here we hit that button there, Mary,
hit that button for the big game show here. We're
gonna have too much or not enough. We have a
big highly produced open here were and play this all right,
let's do it here we go too much or not enough,
and we have a man. If you get a package
delivered in Chicago, it likely was in the back of

(34:53):
the truck that Tree is driving around the Windy City.
And hello, Tree, you're gonna play the game. I know
you didn't call for this, but you're gonna play.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Youre gonna be good sport, right of course? How you doing?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
All right?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
But how's how's a lot of treating in Chicago? Everything good?

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Good man at old Hair Airport right now, just doing
what I.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Do, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I one time got stuck in a lightning storm at
O'Hare Airport. This is in the years before they changed
the rules, and I spent I think it was six hours.
They had left the gate and we were waiting to
take off, and then they said that the airport was
closed and it was close for like six hours and
we sat in that plane.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
It was a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Anyway, anytime I go to O'Hare, I think of that
for obvious reasons. Okay, well, let's play the game. Tree
is in Chicago picking up some deliveries.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
You're gonna get three right to win, three right to win.
Are you ready? All right, question number one. So number one. So,
the Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Bucks just signed Miles Turner coming off an NBA Finals appearance.
In the Finals, across the seven game series, Turner made
twenty five total baskets.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Is that too much or not enough? Tree in Chicago
Mouth didn't play too good.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
I'm gonna say not enough, all right, believe it or not,
The answer is too much. He made barely over the
barely under that he made twenty three shots, twenty three totals.
Under that's all right, you have more questions our.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Question number two.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
After adding DK Metcalf and Aaron Rogers this offseason, the
Pittsburgh Steelers have just recently traded for Jalen Ramsey. In
his entire career with Jacksonville and the Rams and the Dolphins,
Ramsey has twenty two interceptions. Is that too much or
not enough?

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Too much? You sure about that? Don't go with too much?
You're gonna go with too much? You sure? Let's find out.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
No, that's not enough. I tried to talk you into it.
Twenty four passes. He's intercepted twenty four passes his nine
year career. So again, it was close, but it's not enough.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
More than twenty two.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Question number three, Darren Waller is coming out of a
brief one year retirement. He was traded from the Giants
to the Dolphins. He'll be playing in Miami. Just before
this year off. Waller played one season for the Giants.
In that loan season, he caught just three total touchdown passes.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Is that too much or not enough?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Oh? Man?

Speaker 3 (37:36):
He was terrible that year. Yeah, he was pretty bad.
I'm gonna say I'm gonna say under three because I
remember the game. Do you think that's too much? All right,
let's see is that too much? Here you go? You
got one right? How about that? I got only one.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Touchdown in twelve games Darren Waller for the Giants.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
So you're on the board. He was so bad that
he was so bad that he's so bad he did retire.
He got suspended from the NFL. He was so bad,
but they said he was retired. But no, no, all right,
let's go to question number four. And you're listening to
the tree.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
He's at O'Hare Airport picking up some deliveries right now.
Question number four got to get this right to stay alive.
Jeremiah Smith spoke to the Athletic that's the wide receiver
from the Ohio State University and gave a money quote.
He says he promised he won't lose another game to

(38:28):
Michigan in the past. The season's lost to the world rains.
He had sixty receiving yards in the big game. There
is that too much or not enough?

Speaker 4 (38:41):
When they lost the game?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I think sixty yards was too much.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Okay, let's find out you're right, stay alive. If not,
you lose, let's find out here you got your role
about that way even up too much?

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I only had thirty five receiving yards in that game.
He did have a touchdown. So here he comes down
to question number on five. Will the tree get higher
in the sky or will we chop the tree down
right now? He say, well, we say timber or we
say you're gonna win our question five? This is Game
seven of the World Series. This is Game seven of

(39:15):
the Finals. NBA Finals is Super Bowl. Here we go,
it's all online.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Are you ready? Tree? Hi, let's go, Here we go.
The man sounds very confident, very calm.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
The New York Knicks are reportedly bringing back Mike Brown
for a second interview. He's definitely an experienced candidate. Having
been an NBA coach for ten seasons? Is that too
much or not enough for Mike Brown?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Man, NBA coach for ten seasons?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Think about it, King Laker, Yeah, that's right. You know
every team is coached. That's good.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Uh Man, I'm gonna go with ten seasons? Is too much?
You sure about that? You positive? You want to go
too much? You don't want to change that answer.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
I think you do a reverse psychology.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
So yes, I'm gonna stick with my asses.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
So you don't think I like you.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
You think I'm trying to tell you that to lose.
All right, let's find out your final answer is what
ten seasons too much?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Find out you lost?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
It's not a no.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
No, I actually liked you. I wanted you to win,
but no.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
So instead Tree, We're gonna give you you do not win,
but I'm gonna give you a lifetime supply nothing.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Tree.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
So whenever you want nothing, you know, your birthday holidays,
you think of the Ben Malor Show, the show that
gives you nothing, and we'll give you a way. Round
trip to nowhere. That's nowhere, Oklahoma until they get an airport.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Then that's void.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
So round trip to nowhere and a lifetime supply nothing
because we're the Ben Malor Show. We have no budget. Well,
thank you tree, safe travels around Chicago there. We thank
you for listening every night.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
We appreciate you. Thank you. Be good, my man.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
All right, there is a tree in chicag I tried
to help him.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Did I not try to help him?

Speaker 5 (41:04):
You?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Did?

Speaker 5 (41:04):
You even gave him the opportunity to go back and
switch it to the answer multiple times?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Right?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
They were literally multiple times. I was like, I want
this guy to win. It did not work out. You
thought you were trying to manipul if I was trying
to screw him over. I wasn't trying to screw him
over all, Right, trad a, we are gonna have We're
gonna time shift for ratings purposes.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
We are gonna have Mallor to the third degree, Malor
the thirty. We'll get to that and we will do
it next.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific, Bill
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Speaker 1 (41:40):
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(42:01):
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Speaker 3 (42:14):
It will always pop up at the top of your stream.
And here we go his third degree. Time.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
We've time shifted this for ratings purposes, so we passed
the mic over to producer of the night, Ian Roddy.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
All right, so first question here for you, Ben. Famed
YouTuber turn boxer Jake Paul defeated thirty nine year old
Julio Caesar Chavez Junior via unanimous decision a few days ago,
making yet another crazy victory over a long pastest prime
former boxing champion. So now the WBA, which is one
of the sports Big four governing bodies, They've added Paul

(42:49):
to its World Cruiserweight rankings, putting him at number fourteen.
So none of the other three big, big governing bodies
have done that yet they are the first ones. But Ben,
do you like the decision to add Paul to the
affair rankings or is he not really?

Speaker 1 (43:01):
No, No, it's ridiculous. Its in boxing. He's hanging out.
It's on fumes. I used to love boxing growing up.
It's the UFC is kicking their ass every single day
of the week. It's embarrassing for boxing. They still have
this alphabet soup, these four different things. They no one
has the balls to consolidate boxing the wa WBA. As
you say, you're talking about losing credibility. It's ridiculous. Number two,

(43:25):
Jake Paul is a grifter, He's a carpetbagger, He's a
side show.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
To give him any kind of credibility is embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
It's ridiculous. He's fighting tomato cans on a regular basis.
And you know there are many on the internet. I'm
not one of these people saying it. Don't sue me
that claim on these these are all scripted fights. I
don't know whether that's true or not. I just things
I've read on the internet, but it's it's embarrassing to
make this seem legitimate bad job by the WBA.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Next.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Yeah, so you alluded to it in the last segment there,
But the Athletics man in Navarro release Blair recent recently
released a feature on Ohio State by the paywall at
the Athletic Yeah yeah, yeah yeah so U and it's
Smith detailed his hate for Michigan, how crazy it was
losing to them last year, and in the article, he
also promised on the record that he will not lose

(44:14):
another game to them. That'd be the next two years
before he held the NFL at least. So, Ben, do
you buy Smith's guarantee that the Buckeyes won't lose the
next time?

Speaker 3 (44:23):
But what did he put on He's gonna cut a
toe off or a finger?

Speaker 1 (44:25):
If he did not specify whether he's got a real
betad And listen, what's he supposed to say? The most
amazing thing about Jeremiah Smith is he is making, if
the Internet is right, four point two million his his
salary at Ohio State four point two million in nil money.
Aren't you supposed to win every game when you were
When you're at four point two million dollars? He's third

(44:49):
in all of college football in nil money, which is amazing.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
That's wild to me. Uh, he's a great he's a
great talent.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
He's going to be drafted in the top two or
three of the NFL Draft, assuming he doesn't fall apart
before he can be drafted and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
But he has to say they're gonna beat Michi.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
If you're at Ohio State, it's like it's like being
at sc and saying, well, we're not gonna I think
we'll lose to Notre Dame this.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Year or UCLA. You can't say that, all right, I
know you're an old trojan next.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Yesterday, the Dolphins traded Jalen Ramsey and tight end John
new Smith to the Steelers for Minka Fitzpatrick and a
Day three pickswap so Ben, who do you think won
the trade?

Speaker 1 (45:28):
So I'm gonna discount John new Smith for a second,
just on the defensive back for the safety, I'm gonna
give that to Jalen Ramsey. I don't think he's even close.
Like Ramsey, he is tiptoeing towards the end of his
career because the age thing. He's still got a little
fuel left in the tank. If you look at Minka
Fitzpatrick in Pittsburgh last year he allowed a career high

(45:51):
opposing passer, rating the numbers across the board like he
was so much worse than he had been, like he
fell in an abyss there in Pittsburgh. And so it's
not surprising that they trade. And maybe you'll find the
Fountain of youth. As you know, the found of Youth
is in Florida. Ponce de Leon somewhere in Florida has
the found. I think it's in Tampa actually, but but no,

(46:12):
I'm gonna I'm gonna say the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Won the trade. I don't mean John O.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Smith is that great, but he's he's better and Jalen
Ramsey's better than this battery.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
All right there it is mallor to the third degree.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Ian, How did we do crunching the numbers here?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
And yeah, yeah, looks like he's a win.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Look at that Cunner on the lord.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Another win. I'm the all time wins king. No one
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