December 1, 2025 • 43 mins
Big Ben talks about Matthew Stafford and the Rams losing to the Carolina Panthers, Daniel Jones coming up short again with the Colts losing to the Texans, Maller to the Third Degree, Insta-Advice Line, and much more!
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So it's a it's a blessing and curse.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It's it's usually Sunday nights, like the most important game,
not this game.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It wasn't wasn't that big a game.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So we can go somewhere else and we're gonna start
our lead this hour to begin the week. We're going
to start in the Queen City, the Hornets Nest, the
banking capital of the South. We head to Charlotte, where
Matthew Stafford was leading the l R i Am into
a show up and win game.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
At least that was a theory going in. You show
up and you win.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
The Ram Bandwagon stopping in North Carolina, to play the
lowly Panthers and the inconsistent, often terrible Bryce Young at quarterback.
There that was the match. I don't know if you
watch this game or not. It was regional coverage. Most
people these days have access to different ways to watch games.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Some of them legal, some of them not so much.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
All right, so you didn't see this, perhaps not As
you missed this game, someone named Chris Jackson.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
That's kind of a generic name.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Chris Jackson returned in interception forty eight yards. He plays
for the team from North Carolina for a touchdown, and
the Panthers ended up forcing not one, not two, but
three Matthew Stafford turnovers and they get.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
One at the end.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
By the way, oh my god, the Rams were in
field goal range to tie the game late in the
game and numbnots Stafford fumbles the ball away thirty one
to twenty eight the final as the Panthers are and
get the upset when that is their Super Bowl congratulations.
Greatest moment in Carolina Panther history, that pathetic sad sack
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franchise beating the Rams a regular season win the biggest
moment I'm convinced, based on a quick look at my
email in the history of that pathetic franchise.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I'm honored.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'm honored that beating the Rams in a regular season
game is the greatest accomplishment the team's ever had. Somewhere,
Jake de Lolmes at a horse track.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Said, what about me?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Oh, come on, we were in the Super Bowl, okay,
but a better story is in the losing locker room.
Matthew Stafford, who entered the game with a league high
thirty touchdown passes, including eighteen in the past five games,
and he was facing a Carolina defense that did not
have their starting cornerback jac Horne. He was out with
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the injury. The starting safety got suspended for a little
shot to the nuts of a forty nine er player,
and you had.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
A short week.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
The Panthers got their ass kicked playing the Niners on
Monday night on the West Coast.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And that's why they play the games.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's also a good jumping off point, so let us
discuss the question who gets the blame? Who gets the
blame for Sean mcvay's Rams losing to Carolina in a
game where they gave that game. Carolina win the game
and the game was gifted by the Rams so I've
got financial advice, hot air balloon, and toys r us
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and we will combine all of these things together, and
we are going to create some marginal overnight talk radios.
What we're gonna do together, That's what we're gonna do.
And we'll also make some brisket on the side. We'll
cook some brisket in the smoker. We'll put it in
a smoker. We'll cook it for like two days. That'll
be the way we do it, all right, So a
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any way you slice it, literally, any way you slice it.
This was a clunker from the Rams. It was not
some kind of masterpiece by Carolina. We'll call it for
the Rams on the road. It was the Carolina clunker.
A game with so many unforced errors it should have
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had some kind of parental advisory on it. He's self
inflicted ruins. Sean Bavay's Rams were being celebrated all week
to toast of the NFL. The Rams a team to beat.
Oh my god, SLAA, Yes it was. Everyone went to
seven to eleven, ordered a Ram slurpye. They were slipping
all over the Rams. How great the Rams were. And
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then they had to go out and play game and
they did not did not rise to the occasion at
all in this game, as the Rams responded by playing
like a bunch of stumblebums in shoulder pads in this
particular matchup here now right in front of the line,
play the blame game right in front. Obviously, Matthew Stafford,
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he sucked at a time you cannot suck. Here he
played a game of whack a mole with the football,
which generally speaking not.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
A great idea. But what do you know, You're just
do the overnut show.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm just saying, I'm just saying three turnovers. There were misthrows,
the body language of a man who realized that his
GPS was broken and he was stuck on a dark
highway out in the country somewhere, and he's like, I
don't know what I'm doing here, Stafford. This was a
roller coaster performance by Stafford. It did have a few
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nice scenic views there where he found Devonte Adams for
touchdowns and then boom goes the dynamite for Matthew Stafford
upside down.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Losing your lunch.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
All of that, however, now the Simpleton way is just
to merely blame Matthew Stafford, and while he certainly gets
the in this case, Lions sharees Lion's share of the blame. However,
Chris Shula, who was also getting hyped up as a
future NFL head coach and likely will be a future
head coach because of nepotism. So Chris Sula's group the
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He's the defensive coordinator for the Rams. They lacked a
sense of urgency, like they looked like they were running
for stretchers in that game, like they were running an oatmeal,
which I don't know that you want to run through oatmeal.
I don't recommend it, and just heavy footed on defense
and messing up. I'm blundering and bumbling and all those things.
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A sloppy tackling. And though the weather wasn't perfect, well,
the weather's not always.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Going to be perfect.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And down the line right now the Chicago Bears, because
the Rams lost, the Bears of the number one seed
in the NFC, which I would think Soldier Field. I
know as a kid, I'm old, and so I did
see the Bears play home games in Soldier Field and
the weather sucked and that was part of the deal.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So you're gonna if.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You have to go there, or go to Philadelphia on
the road. You're gonna be playing in bad weather and
just sloppy. Tackling was damp and rainy and cold and
Charlotte and it's like they had covered their hands and
Carolina barbecue saw us and slipping through tackles and whatnot
there and not one forced turn up. You're playing one
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of the great stiffs of all time. Bryce youngk we
all agree, everyone agrees, everyone this guy sucks. And you
couldn't turn the ball over one time from Carolina, not
one forced fumble, not one interception playing Bryce Young. Bryce Young,
who if you look at the says, oh yeah, some
good stats in the game.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But if you watch the game, it's Bryce Young's not
the guy to beat the Rams.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He checked them into a nice hotel, went to a
nice hotel there, thanked them at checkout, got a nice
gift basket from the Rams of the Carolina team, got
turnovers and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
To me, though you.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Mentioned the defense being bad, Stafford was terrible. That fumble
game would have gone to overtime, would have kicked a
field goal there. Who knows what happens. Most likely after
that However, ifs and butts were candy nuts. The biggest
issue here, and this is something that you look, Stafford's
gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I'm not worried about Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
However, I am concerned about a Cinderella story. On defense,
the Rams picked up a player named Emmanuel Forbes Washington,
who was a first round pick who got released because
of incompetence with the team formerly known as the Redskins.
And they're using that financial advice from Emmanuel Forbes. And
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he had been fine. I wouldn't say great, he'd been
fine or good or whatever. But now this guy turned
into a human ATM machine. Guys were getting cash right
and left for Carolina in this game and burned for
a thirty three yard touchdown, roasted again for a forty
three yard touchdown.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's to Emmanuel Forbes, who goofed.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I've got to know and the Panthers you'll be a
running back combination Chuba Hubbard and Rico Dowdell. They were
not explosive in this game, but it was death by
a thousand paper cuts for Carolina. Mcveay's magic did not work. Clearly,
only works when the weather's okay, not in the rain
didn't really work there. So the Rams they gave that
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game away. You are crowing the crowd their ass, but
they gave that game away, is what they did now
turning the page, but not very far so the envy
The question on this one, does this stinker of a
performance by Matthew Stafford, the lack of performance in Carolina?
Does this now put the kibosh on the Matthew Stafford
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MVP campaign?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Is that it now the the MVP race.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I went up to a I went onto a plane
and I went like thirty thousand feet up. I looked down,
so I'm looking down from thirty thousand feet the MVP
race went from Stafford in the pole position to the
pothole position based on that performance there for Stafford. Here
the Rams who entered Carolina, as we said, think it
was a toast of the NFL when you was slurping
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all over them and Stafford was in the lead MVP
highlights all over the place, and suddenly he's in the
car there. The backup camera now turned on there and
the bandwagon is now reversing. So they're now going backwards
on the Stafford MVP bandwagon and they're going down a
one way street backwards. It's not recommended there, so it's
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not listen, it's not a kill shot. It's certainly not
a kill shot. If you think that you're just a
troll and a loser and a punk and a scumbag,
it's not a kill shot. However, think of it like
a hot air balloon, and the balloon's start and go
down a little bit. You might want to, you know,
get that fire cranked up because it's not going very well.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
If you look at Stafford, let's hit before I get
into more, let's hear from Matthew staff Here's Matthew Stafford,
who sucked at a time you cannot suck for the
Rams here and all those mistakes.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
What do you gotta say for yourself, Stafford?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I mean the first one, I'm playing that play the
exact same they did, and I shall get their hands
up tipball. I mean, that's you know, it's the name
of the game. It's you gotta you know, play aggressive.
And that's fine. Second one, obviously, I can't leave that
ball inside. Got in a nice plays, made a bunch
of good plays this year, but can't leave that one
inside and give them seven on that one, so that's tough,
and then find a way to hold onto that last
one because we're in.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Field goal range.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
You know, I'll give us a chance to tie that
thing up and play defense. So obviously we're not gonna
win a whole lot of games. I turned it over
three times and hasn't been an issue, and don't expect
it to be moving forward. Just continue to trust my fundamentals,
go out there and play, and you know know that
I'm doing all the stuff I can to make sure
that I played a high level and just didn't happen
for me today.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So that was a bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But here's the This is a throwback and a reminder
that that's still somewhere in there. There's still a lot
of that stuff. It's a throwback edition of Matthew Stafford.
Like someone dug up the old Lions NFL Films sizzle
reel from like twenty thirteen or something like that and
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just pressed play and there you Go's that's Stafford, the
pristine record, Gonzo. He did set the record, though, Stafford
before he started turning the ball over. He set the
NFL record twenty eight consecutive touchdown passes without an interception.
Bye bye, Tom Brady. Three hundred and seventeen throws, three
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hundred and seventeen throws over ten weeks without an interception,
and you can put that right in the shredder. The
first one was to Nick Scott, who I believe played
for the Rams in the past. So that was a
special FedEx delivery right there. Congratulations on that. Stafford signed
for it. Interception, Boom, there you go. And so again
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the campaign bus here, the campaign bus just blew a tire.
The Matthew Stafford MVP campaign bus blew a tire. It's
on the side of the interstate right now. But Stafford survives.
And the reason he's still very much alive for the
MVP is because there's nobody else, literally, I mean, who
else is there. There's no Mahomes meteor shower of touchdowns.
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Chiefs just lost to a Cowboys pathetic. There's no Lamar
laser show, Lamar not really getting or done. The Ravens
also took it on the chin to the Cincinnati ben Gals,
and all that talk about Aaron Rodgers revival tour, well
that's not happening. So Josh Allen Bill's won. He didn't
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play very well, so what do you got by the
process of elimination? Stafford is still very much in the
middle of this. And you know, you got to take
this game as an outlier. Nowf he starts throwing the interceptions
right and left, the Rams play another divisional game next
week on the road, then we'll see is the opening
credits of a decline documentary? And if not, if not,
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if this is just a one off, then you're fine.
Carolina is a middle of the pack team and that's it.
They're not a heavyweight. And you know that the way
they celebrated beating the Rams on the great wins in
franchise history, pathetic franchise, that is. Meanwhile, in Foxborough, you
talk about the MVP race. You look tonight Patriots quarterback
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Drake May He has a pedestal for himself there as
the Patsy's play Monday Night Island game, last game.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
The Giants and the patron Now, Jacks are not a
good team. The Jets are not a good team.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
We all know that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
However, everyone will be watching. There's nothing else you can't watch.
The NBA's unwatchable, there's nothing else to watch. We'll all
be watching we like sports, We're gonna be watching that game.
So Drake May's got a shot to jump up a
couple of rungs in the MVP race.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Here climb the ladder as.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Stafford stalls and kind of goes back down. There's a
flat tire there for Stafford. Now the MVP pole position
I believe still open. I was skeptical of Stafford, then
I came, I came around to him, and now I'm
skeptical again.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
But there's traffic ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
There's plenty of traffic ahead, and there's the home stretch
of the NFL season where this MVP will be won.
It's competitive, which is a nice way of saying there's
nobody really that great.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
That's the way we can say it now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Meanwhile, Sunday Night Football, normally we get super sexy matchups,
really hot matchups, real real, just tremendous game, primetime, most
important game of the weekend Sunday night. Not this weekend
Sunday Night football. You had a mismatch the Broncos, a
big road favorite, six point road favorites against the low
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the Commanders and a bunch of backups playing. This game
actually went the overtime, though, how embarrassing for the Broncos.
They had to go overtime against the Washington Commanders for
God's sakes, and Denver was The game came down to
a two point conversion in overtime with just little time
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left on the clock. The Washington Commanders matriculated the ball.
Denver scored first, they scored a touchdown, and then Commanders
came back, drove the ball down the field. They thought
they had scored a touchdown, there was a penalty. Then
they did score a touchdown, and then you make the call.
Dan Quinn's like, hey, we suck. Let's go for two.
That's what bad teams do. Go for two.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Why not, don't play for the tie? Go for two?
I liked it. Why not? It's fun in the game
right there, it's overtime. What do you got to lose?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And the Broncos the play of the day the linebacker
Nick Benito El Micho as he came in there, batted
down a Marcus Mariota pass on the receiver the running
back at the back.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Wide open for the Commanders. If the pass, if.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You throw it high like one of those those silly
shadow throws, like when I used to play basketball back
in the day, you try to put the arc way
up in there, and if Mariota had been able to
do that, the Commanders win the game by a point
because they went for two instead. Now the Broncos have
won nine straight as Benito, with the Nito play of
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the day, blocked the pass.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
By Mariota into the ground. That was it game over.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So question should Sean Payton's Broncos be feeling good with
the overtime victory or be concerned that they struggled to
beat a pathetic, ridiculously bad Washington team. So after a
minute long Mallard deliberation, we have determined that we don't
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want to confuse a pulse with a powerhouse. This Bronco
team has a record that would indicate they're a powerhouse.
They just don't pass the powerhouse test.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
They don't. And that wasn't any kind of a statement game.
You were favored on the road.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
If you had stopped the Commanders, you would have actually
covered the spread in overtime.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I had Washington.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
If you watched Benny versus the Penny this weekend on YouTube,
you know I took Watchum they're happy about that that
the game did come down to a two point conversion
at the end. But nonetheless, listen, this was an ant
acid alert for the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Here.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
The Broncos have zero fear factor and that might not
matter in the end and all that stuff, but I'm
just telling you where they are right now. There's no
fear factor playing the Denver Broncos. Washington coming in this
game was three and eight. Three and eight playing a
backup in Marcus Mariota, who was last good when he
played in Eugene, Oregon. Okay, the guy sucks, coming off
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six straight losses and they still went nose to nose
with the Broncos. Embarrassing, embarrassing and why is that two words?
Bo knicks bow knicks. He continues to be a.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Toys r Us quarterback.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He's a Yo yo, he's up and down right one
quarter he looks like Joe Montana and then he's Joe
Schmoe for the Broncos. There there's no consistency. I'll give
you a in the second half of this game, now
forget over him. Just a third and fourth quarter. He
was ten of seventeen for one hundred and four yards.
That's not good. Had a passer rating of fifty two
point one. Bow knicks in the third and fourth quarter,
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and the reason that Washington was able to get back
Denver's last four drives of the second half they resulted
in the first one was an interception.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
The following three.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Punt punt punt, and that allowed Washington to work their
way back into the game. And that's not winning. That's
not winning footballs obviously is not winning football. It's a
holiday trip in congratulations. You're on a nice holiday trip
on the vomit comet. They're on the vomit comet. The
Commanders had more yards than Denver, they had more first downs.
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The Broncos defense, which is they have good players that
look good to me, but yet they allowed Washington to
get more yards.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
There was a in I think it was in overtime,
might have been regulation.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I didn't write down whether it was regulation or not,
but it was like a third and twenty five for
the Commanders with their backup quarterback, and they converted it.
They ended up converting it and kept the game going there. So,
you know, you allowed the Commanders to get sixty scores
in the red zone, thirty first downs, they had more
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first downs, more yards, all that stuff. And so when
the bow show. Then it reappeared he I mentioned Joe Montana,
Joe Shmoo.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
He was Joe schmo in. The second name was Joe Montana.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
In overtime, four or four seventy one yards of the
seventy six on that drive, Marco's capped it off with
a touchdown and there you go.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
So it's like it's kind of like bo Bownix is
like finding a five dollar bill in a jacket that
you're planning on donating. Like it's great.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It's like, it doesn't really, it doesn't really change things
too much beause you play well in overtime.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
So the nine game winning streak is there more more
fools goal than a nine game winning streak. The Broncos
have played this season the Giants, Jets, Raiders, and Commanders,
four of the worst teams in pro football. They have
won those games, all of them by a combined seven points.
Four of the worst teams you can possibly find in
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the NFL. They've won by seven total points, not seven
points per game. Seven total points against the Commanders, Raiders, Jets,
and Giants.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's not that's not dominance. That's faked till you make
it now. There is a counter argument that you do
this and then eventually you start to believe you're actually
good and it can work out for you, but it
doesn't normally go that way.
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Speaker 1 (23:45):
This hour from Indy, we start there big AFC South matchup,
and well, we had a bunch of NFL games on Sunday.
There were only a few of them that really rose
to the level of interesting. There were some epic mismatches,
games that just had no juice, like Atlanta and the Jets.
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Who the hell cares just nothing there mismatches like Jacksonville
and Tennessee and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
So we're going to focus in on a game that
was decent. Yead.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
The Texans defense was now top three in the NFL
just about every category. Taking on Daniel Jones and the
Indianapolis Colts. I don't if you saw this or not,
maybe not. I had this game circle and if you
watched Benny versus the Penny over the weekend, you know
we told you about the Texans. We liked the Texas
in this game, and it turned out to be the
right side. Nico Collins ran seven yards for the tie
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breaking score that was early in the fourth quarter, and
Nick Chubble loublub added another touchdown run. Houston's defense making
some plays there late in the game to wrap it up,
and the Texans preserve a twenty to sixteen victory over
these in the Annapolis Colts. The better story is in
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the losing locker room. As the Colts go down, they
drop their second straight game. That does not sound good.
And for the first time this season, they have lost
three of four and they have fallen into a tie.
They have fallen into a tie with Jacksonville in the
AFC South and they play the Jaguars this coming Sunday.
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So that seems like kind of a big deal. It
seems like, hey, what's going on a lot of close games,
a lot of non performing late by the Indianapolis Colts.
It seems to be a theme here that they're in
the games and then they don't make plays late.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Here.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Shane Steichen, that's the head coach of the Indianapolis football team,
commenting on how the Colts keep screwing up these games.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
You lose these tight games. Sometimes you win the tight games,
but when you lose tight games, it's frustrating because you're like, shoot,
we can have that, we could add this, can add that.
You look back, it's three or four plays when you
lose tight ones, and so we got to find a
way to get those three or four plays when it
is a tight game like that.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
So Daniel Jones again he didn't want to say this,
because you can't rip your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
We loses our team, We wines our team. Not so much.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So Daniel Jones failed to deliver yet again. If you're
a New York Giants fan, you're saying, you're nodding your head, Yes,
I know that.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
You don't need to remind me. Yeah, so let us discuss.
That's a good jumping off point.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
So the question what do you make of quarterback Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And his performance here for the Colts soul.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I've got e rhythmics, airport parking garage, and foggy bathroom mirror,
and we will combine all of these things together and
we're going to put the biscuit in the basket, is
what we're going to do.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
So number.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
All right, enough, all right, So listen Daniel Jones, who
for a couple of weeks there was being hyped as
Indiana Jones, the iconic Indiana Jones we've seen as the
season has gone on. Here, Daniel Jones, he's Indiana Jones,
but he doesn't have the whip late in the game,
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doesn't have the right hat, doesn't have the right wardrobe,
and certainly without the heroics that case.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
And you want to know the truth, the word here,
the word is underwhelming with a capitol you. That's my
word for Daniel Jones. Here.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Both the box score and the eyeball test tell the
same story. Here Jones fourteen of twenty seven, so a
little over fifty percent of his passes just over two
hundred yards passing, did have a couple of touchdowns. It
sounds all right, it sounds okay, it sounds okay. He
actually watched the game though, You're like, okay, so he
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does okay early on in the first half, and then
as the game progresses on, it gets harder and harder
and harder. With this game was a litmus test. Can
we all agree on that?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Everyone agrees? So it was a litmus test for the
Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You're playing a top defensive team, you're at home, your
favor to win the game, all right, So that's all
important stuff. So this was a test and against the
Texans defense. And how did Daniel Jones do? He failed
the lab exam? He failed the lab exam unfortunately. And
the quarterback apologists, which drive me bonkers.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
You know who they are, the fat boys in the media.
Oh it's never. The players followed, never, even though they
were the ones that actually play the game.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So the quarterback apologists, the softies, the mister softies out there,
they're already rolling out the excuses, the red carpet of
excuses here. You know, he had that de fibular injury
he's not one hundred percent. Come on, give him a break,
give me back. No, he was medically cleared, Daniel Jones
to play in the game. And if you're medically cleared
to play, you're allowed to play. Not gonna let him
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go out there and play if he's going to injure
himself more, because that's a lie. And the NFL's been
sued up the wazoo in the last twenty years by
doing stuff like that. So Danie Jones was medically clear
to play. He's on the field. You are accountable for
your own actions.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Period. End of story.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Now, as for the Colts, the soundtrack for the Colts here,
it's starting to change as the season has gone on.
We've determined it, say you rhythmics classic. Here comes that
sink and feeling for Indianapolis. That sink and feeling. Bring
in some Annie Lennox here and get her singing there.
You could have called this one from the booth, all right,
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how you could have called it from your sofa. You
could have called this one. Let's go to the fourth quarter.
That's winning time in the fourth.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Quarter there, and I got that sink and feeling.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, you got that sink and feeling here a big
money quarterback. That's where you're earn your money, right, make
place down the stretch. Down the stretch we come. So
in the fourth quarter, Daniel Jones had a passer rating
of forty nine point three, which I don't think is good.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
You're being too mean, all right?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
How about this last week in Kansas City, last game
Colts play Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
There he was even worse.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Three of nine that's in overtime and regulation, three of
nine seventeen yards last week, late game situations. So this
is not some kind of one off. In fact, if
you look at it, there's patternicity. There's a trend with
Daniel Jones. And when the moment gets big, big big, big, big, big,
big big, this guy has a tendency to shrink. It's
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just the way it is. So he's in the Indiana
joneson for answers right now. The pattern is developing. Whether
you want to admit it or not, the pattern is there,
and it's not pretty. And the Colts have put themselves
into a corner. Now Sauce Gardner was hurting this game.
He's gonna be out. Looks like for a couple of weeks.
It's not a season aiding injury. The guy that Colts
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traded for. And I guess some people said a soldier.
You know, I love the I told you a guy.
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed the I
told you guy, I told you. Guy emailed me and say, well.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I told you. They shouldn't have done that. Another sauce
card resort. Did the Colts gave up all these draft picks?
I don't I don't care. I would have done it.
I liked the fact that Colts went for it. I
like that. That's good. I'm not gonna rip it for that.
Has it worked out yet? I don't have a problem
with that thought that this is our opportunity and they're
still in first place, although they're tied now with Jacksonville
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on the other side.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
We now go to the winning locker room question. The
quarterback returned, So the question is how did Texans quarterback
cee J. Stroud look in his first game in almost
a month? His first game in almost a month, so
how did he look?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Here?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So watching this while flipping around other games, Stroud stepped
back onto the grid iron. He looked like a guy
that was walking out of a four week nap. That
he he had literally been napping for four weeks, which
I don't think is good. And he was trying to
find his car at the airport parking garage and he
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didn't remember where he parked, and he was taking the
shuttle from garage to garage to garage to garage. He's like, hey, dude,
where's my car. That was an old movie, Dude, where's
my car? First quarter? That was not a lot of
polish in the first quarter.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
There that was oxidation, oxidation, no touchdowns, just hiccups and homework.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
That you didn't do, homework that you didn't do, and
then you're like, Okay, what's going on here? And didn't
look all that great. There's some mental mistakes. For example,
he threw the football beyond the line of scrimmage. That's
a no no. There was an overthrow if he saw
the game, got gift wrap for the Colts defense from CJ.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Stroud.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Two turnovers on downs by the Texans offense. And so
it's like leaving the restaurant without paying the bill, dining
in ditch.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
That's what that had. That's what that was. So a
couple of those here is Demico Ryans, the head coach
of the Houston Texans here and his comment on his car.
I'm sure he's gonna rip CJ. Strod right say it
was terrible. Let's see Le's find out.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
And I thought CJ did a really nice job coming back,
really missing a lot of time. I know some throws
he would like to have back, but overall thought he
managed the drives really well.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
We drove down.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Of course we want to score on some of those.
We get down, had to kick field goals. But overall,
for him coming back not having played in a few
weeks here, I thought he did a really nice job.
If this is where he's started.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
It's only up for him.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
So I'm excited to see how he continues to progress.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
You want to bet it's not only up for him,
because I'll bet I'll take that bet right now. You
want to bet he keeps getting better, I'll bet he
doesn't keep getting better.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
I'll take the other side on that. Now.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
The one thing I will concede, I'm not a total schmuck.
I will concede that TJ. Strodd did a very good
job the Texans offense. On third down, he was pretty good.
He was pretty good on third down. On third down,
he was Johnny Paycheck six of seven seventy nine yards
passing a one hundred and thirteen point seven passer rating,
which is pretty.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Good, which is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And when the house lights were dimmed, Dim dim dim
dim dim Stroud, it was like piano man. He was
third downs engineering some things for.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Houston in the second half on that touchdown they got,
so it's kind of like they tilted the pinball machine
a little bit as the game went on for him
on those third down plays.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
He was not great overall. You have to judge him
on the full body of work. He was not great.
So there was they won the game, and he did
get sacked a couple times, but it wasn't as bad
as it has been when CJ. Stroud was in there
before and Davis Mills took over, and just all he
did was get rid of the ball quickly and that
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was enough. Because of the defense is so good in Houston,
they were able to win those games all right. Now,
final point, we go to Cleveland, Ohio in the forty
Niners road show in northern Ohio, and you talk about
getting it done on third down. The Niners converted sixty
five percent of their third downs I'm told that's good.
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They get a twenty six to eight win without any
real gaudy offense from anybody. Brock Perdy, Christian McCaffrey, none
of those guys had big days against the Brownies defense
on a very chilly Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Kind of a day. But don't bury the lead, my man.
We're not gonna bear lead.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So this was all about the spawn of Dion, the
spawn of Dion. So question, give me a single word,
Give me a single word that describes Shader Sanders first
home start for the Browns.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
All right, So my word is dip. That's my word.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Dip, dip as in declining impact performance dip. That's all
I say. And it's exactly what Shadur Sanders delivered in
his first home start wearing those ugly Brown's uniforms. That
this was a chamber of commerce kind of a day
in northern high You don't need to talk to strip
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Club John or Ohioal or any other legends in the
greater Cleveland area. This was absolutely a chamber of commerce
kind of day. Right on the shores of Lake Erie.
They're thirty five degrees, damp and breezy, the type of
weather that historically West Coast teams go into Cleveland and
they start hibernating because of the weather, and so the
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forty nine ers they showed up and they didn't do that.
They didn't have Again, we say this all the time
without their two headliners on devas, Nick Bosa and Fred
Warner not participating this season.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
They're out with injuries. And Shadur Sanders.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Still look like he was reading the playbook through a
foggy bathroom mirror, looking through the the foggy bathroom mirror,
trying to make out what was going on there. Now,
Cleveland had nine offensive possessions.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
They only had nine in the game. They had four punts,
three turnovers on downs, one fumble, and one interception and
a partridge in a pear tree. That's what they had there.
That's not a stat line, by the way, that is
a confession. Okay, outside of a single broken play miscoveraged
by the forty nine ers for thirty four yards. On
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the other twenty four pass attempts by Shreder Sanders, he
averaged less than five yards per pass attempt and as
the game went on he fainted away there. So not
exactly the Mike Leech air raid offense from back in
the day. That's more like an air leak, is what
that was. Flatulence. The Browns were three of eleven on
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third down, which I'm told is not good, zero for
four on fourth down, which I know is not good.
I don't have to be told it's not good. And
that is not a conversion rate. That is a clearance sale,
and it is cyber. So please buy our takes. They're
on salf and yet he'll start again. The Browns already said, oh,
he's gonna start against Tennessee because Cleveland has decided, well,
they suck. They're treating the regular season like it's a
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pilot episode. They're just doing some testing, little beta testing here,
seeing what they got. And meanwhile, Deonz media buddies, we
know who they are. They're the ones licking the toes
of Shuder Sanders. They'll keep talking about Schaudur Canton Ohio,
that Hall of Fame performance, all that stuff. We're two
weeks in as a starter, two weeks in and we
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have an early verdict for Shudur Sanders. He doesn't just
doesn't look like the guy. Don't look like the guy
two weeks into this year, So again, do the dip
declining impact performance for Schudur Sanders and these two starts
he's made for the Browns, they're one in one overall.
Of course, the win has an asterisk. It was against
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the Raiders, the Old Raiders.
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deserve for their success?
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Well?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
A sizable amount of credit, Coop. The Bears have been
chronic underachievers for years. He's apparently simplified things here and
the Bears have surpassed where they normally have been.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
And he's the difference is the coach.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
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And it's not like Cabb Williams is playing great, because
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Speaker 8 (39:48):
Next, so the Chiefs are a five hundred team and
they might miss the playoffs playoffs. Over the weekend, Patrick
Mahomes said, our ceiling is playing in the super Bowl.
We can beat anybody, but we've shown that we can
lose to anybody.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Ben you agree with all that.
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you are this year and what you are this year.
There's been a constant monsoon that has taken over the
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be the week they turn things around, This is gonna
be the week.
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not that good.
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They're just not I don't see I don't see them
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Speaker 8 (40:19):
There was a report over the weekend that three teams
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Speaker 4 (40:25):
Do you think he's somebody that you want to go for?
Heils your team around.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Oh, he's a good player. You don't know if guys
like that because he's on a crappy team. And it's
easy to put stats on a crappy team. It's it's
hard when you're winning. They put up says, I'm skeptical.
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So it's a it's a blessing and curse.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It's it's usually Sunday nights, like the most important game,
not this game.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It wasn't wasn't that big a game.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So we can go somewhere else and we're gonna start
our lead this hour to begin the week. We're going
to start in the Queen City, the Hornets Nest, the
banking capital of the South. We head to Charlotte, where
Matthew Stafford was leading the l R i Am into
a show up and win game.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
At least that was a theory going in. You show
up and you win.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
The Ram Bandwagon stopping in North Carolina, to play the
lowly Panthers and the inconsistent, often terrible Bryce Young at quarterback.
There that was the match. I don't know if you
watch this game or not. It was regional coverage. Most
people these days have access to different ways to watch games.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Some of them legal, some of them not so much.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
All right, so you didn't see this, perhaps not As
you missed this game, someone named Chris Jackson.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
That's kind of a generic name.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Chris Jackson returned in interception forty eight yards. He plays
for the team from North Carolina for a touchdown, and
the Panthers ended up forcing not one, not two, but
three Matthew Stafford turnovers and they get.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
One at the end.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
By the way, oh my god, the Rams were in
field goal range to tie the game late in the
game and numbnots Stafford fumbles the ball away thirty one
to twenty eight the final as the Panthers are and
get the upset when that is their Super Bowl congratulations.
Greatest moment in Carolina Panther history, that pathetic sad sack
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franchise beating the Rams a regular season win the biggest
moment I'm convinced, based on a quick look at my
email in the history of that pathetic franchise.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I'm honored.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'm honored that beating the Rams in a regular season
game is the greatest accomplishment the team's ever had. Somewhere,
Jake de Lolmes at a horse track.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Said, what about me?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Oh, come on, we were in the Super Bowl, okay,
but a better story is in the losing locker room.
Matthew Stafford, who entered the game with a league high
thirty touchdown passes, including eighteen in the past five games,
and he was facing a Carolina defense that did not
have their starting cornerback jac Horne. He was out with
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the injury. The starting safety got suspended for a little
shot to the nuts of a forty nine er player,
and you had.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
A short week.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
The Panthers got their ass kicked playing the Niners on
Monday night on the West Coast.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And that's why they play the games.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's also a good jumping off point, so let us
discuss the question who gets the blame? Who gets the
blame for Sean mcvay's Rams losing to Carolina in a
game where they gave that game. Carolina win the game
and the game was gifted by the Rams so I've
got financial advice, hot air balloon, and toys r us
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and we will combine all of these things together, and
we are going to create some marginal overnight talk radios.
What we're gonna do together, That's what we're gonna do.
And we'll also make some brisket on the side. We'll
cook some brisket in the smoker. We'll put it in
a smoker. We'll cook it for like two days. That'll
be the way we do it, all right, So a
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any way you slice it, literally, any way you slice it.
This was a clunker from the Rams. It was not
some kind of masterpiece by Carolina. We'll call it for
the Rams on the road. It was the Carolina clunker.
A game with so many unforced errors it should have
(05:56):
had some kind of parental advisory on it. He's self
inflicted ruins. Sean Bavay's Rams were being celebrated all week
to toast of the NFL. The Rams a team to beat.
Oh my god, SLAA, Yes it was. Everyone went to
seven to eleven, ordered a Ram slurpye. They were slipping
all over the Rams. How great the Rams were. And
(06:17):
then they had to go out and play game and
they did not did not rise to the occasion at
all in this game, as the Rams responded by playing
like a bunch of stumblebums in shoulder pads in this
particular matchup here now right in front of the line,
play the blame game right in front. Obviously, Matthew Stafford,
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he sucked at a time you cannot suck. Here he
played a game of whack a mole with the football,
which generally speaking not.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
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do the overnut show.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm just saying, I'm just saying three turnovers. There were misthrows,
the body language of a man who realized that his
GPS was broken and he was stuck on a dark
highway out in the country somewhere, and he's like, I
don't know what I'm doing here, Stafford. This was a
roller coaster performance by Stafford. It did have a few
(07:14):
nice scenic views there where he found Devonte Adams for
touchdowns and then boom goes the dynamite for Matthew Stafford
upside down.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Losing your lunch.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
All of that, however, now the Simpleton way is just
to merely blame Matthew Stafford, and while he certainly gets
the in this case, Lions sharees Lion's share of the blame. However,
Chris Shula, who was also getting hyped up as a
future NFL head coach and likely will be a future
head coach because of nepotism. So Chris Sula's group the
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He's the defensive coordinator for the Rams. They lacked a
sense of urgency, like they looked like they were running
for stretchers in that game, like they were running an oatmeal,
which I don't know that you want to run through oatmeal.
I don't recommend it, and just heavy footed on defense
and messing up. I'm blundering and bumbling and all those things.
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A sloppy tackling. And though the weather wasn't perfect, well,
the weather's not always.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Going to be perfect.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And down the line right now the Chicago Bears, because
the Rams lost, the Bears of the number one seed
in the NFC, which I would think Soldier Field. I
know as a kid, I'm old, and so I did
see the Bears play home games in Soldier Field and
the weather sucked and that was part of the deal.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So you're gonna if.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You have to go there, or go to Philadelphia on
the road. You're gonna be playing in bad weather and
just sloppy. Tackling was damp and rainy and cold and
Charlotte and it's like they had covered their hands and
Carolina barbecue saw us and slipping through tackles and whatnot
there and not one forced turn up. You're playing one
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of the great stiffs of all time. Bryce youngk we
all agree, everyone agrees, everyone this guy sucks. And you
couldn't turn the ball over one time from Carolina, not
one forced fumble, not one interception playing Bryce Young. Bryce Young,
who if you look at the says, oh yeah, some
good stats in the game.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But if you watch the game, it's Bryce Young's not
the guy to beat the Rams.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He checked them into a nice hotel, went to a
nice hotel there, thanked them at checkout, got a nice
gift basket from the Rams of the Carolina team, got
turnovers and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
To me, though you.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Mentioned the defense being bad, Stafford was terrible. That fumble
game would have gone to overtime, would have kicked a
field goal there. Who knows what happens. Most likely after
that However, ifs and butts were candy nuts. The biggest
issue here, and this is something that you look, Stafford's
gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I'm not worried about Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
However, I am concerned about a Cinderella story. On defense,
the Rams picked up a player named Emmanuel Forbes Washington,
who was a first round pick who got released because
of incompetence with the team formerly known as the Redskins.
And they're using that financial advice from Emmanuel Forbes. And
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he had been fine. I wouldn't say great, he'd been
fine or good or whatever. But now this guy turned
into a human ATM machine. Guys were getting cash right
and left for Carolina in this game and burned for
a thirty three yard touchdown, roasted again for a forty
three yard touchdown.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's to Emmanuel Forbes, who goofed.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I've got to know and the Panthers you'll be a
running back combination Chuba Hubbard and Rico Dowdell. They were
not explosive in this game, but it was death by
a thousand paper cuts for Carolina. Mcveay's magic did not work. Clearly,
only works when the weather's okay, not in the rain
didn't really work there. So the Rams they gave that
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game away. You are crowing the crowd their ass, but
they gave that game away, is what they did now
turning the page, but not very far so the envy
The question on this one, does this stinker of a
performance by Matthew Stafford, the lack of performance in Carolina?
Does this now put the kibosh on the Matthew Stafford
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MVP campaign?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Is that it now the the MVP race.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I went up to a I went onto a plane
and I went like thirty thousand feet up. I looked down,
so I'm looking down from thirty thousand feet the MVP
race went from Stafford in the pole position to the
pothole position based on that performance there for Stafford. Here
the Rams who entered Carolina, as we said, think it
was a toast of the NFL when you was slurping
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all over them and Stafford was in the lead MVP
highlights all over the place, and suddenly he's in the
car there. The backup camera now turned on there and
the bandwagon is now reversing. So they're now going backwards
on the Stafford MVP bandwagon and they're going down a
one way street backwards. It's not recommended there, so it's
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not listen, it's not a kill shot. It's certainly not
a kill shot. If you think that you're just a
troll and a loser and a punk and a scumbag,
it's not a kill shot. However, think of it like
a hot air balloon, and the balloon's start and go
down a little bit. You might want to, you know,
get that fire cranked up because it's not going very well.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
If you look at Stafford, let's hit before I get
into more, let's hear from Matthew staff Here's Matthew Stafford,
who sucked at a time you cannot suck for the
Rams here and all those mistakes.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
What do you gotta say for yourself, Stafford?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I mean the first one, I'm playing that play the
exact same they did, and I shall get their hands
up tipball. I mean, that's you know, it's the name
of the game. It's you gotta you know, play aggressive.
And that's fine. Second one, obviously, I can't leave that
ball inside. Got in a nice plays, made a bunch
of good plays this year, but can't leave that one
inside and give them seven on that one, so that's tough,
and then find a way to hold onto that last
one because we're in.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Field goal range.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
You know, I'll give us a chance to tie that
thing up and play defense. So obviously we're not gonna
win a whole lot of games. I turned it over
three times and hasn't been an issue, and don't expect
it to be moving forward. Just continue to trust my fundamentals,
go out there and play, and you know know that
I'm doing all the stuff I can to make sure
that I played a high level and just didn't happen
for me today.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So that was a bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But here's the This is a throwback and a reminder
that that's still somewhere in there. There's still a lot
of that stuff. It's a throwback edition of Matthew Stafford.
Like someone dug up the old Lions NFL Films sizzle
reel from like twenty thirteen or something like that and
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just pressed play and there you Go's that's Stafford, the
pristine record, Gonzo. He did set the record, though, Stafford
before he started turning the ball over. He set the
NFL record twenty eight consecutive touchdown passes without an interception.
Bye bye, Tom Brady. Three hundred and seventeen throws, three
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hundred and seventeen throws over ten weeks without an interception,
and you can put that right in the shredder. The
first one was to Nick Scott, who I believe played
for the Rams in the past. So that was a
special FedEx delivery right there. Congratulations on that. Stafford signed
for it. Interception, Boom, there you go. And so again
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the campaign bus here, the campaign bus just blew a tire.
The Matthew Stafford MVP campaign bus blew a tire. It's
on the side of the interstate right now. But Stafford survives.
And the reason he's still very much alive for the
MVP is because there's nobody else, literally, I mean, who
else is there. There's no Mahomes meteor shower of touchdowns.
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Chiefs just lost to a Cowboys pathetic. There's no Lamar
laser show, Lamar not really getting or done. The Ravens
also took it on the chin to the Cincinnati ben Gals,
and all that talk about Aaron Rodgers revival tour, well
that's not happening. So Josh Allen Bill's won. He didn't
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play very well, so what do you got by the
process of elimination? Stafford is still very much in the
middle of this. And you know, you got to take
this game as an outlier. Nowf he starts throwing the interceptions
right and left, the Rams play another divisional game next
week on the road, then we'll see is the opening
credits of a decline documentary? And if not, if not,
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if this is just a one off, then you're fine.
Carolina is a middle of the pack team and that's it.
They're not a heavyweight. And you know that the way
they celebrated beating the Rams on the great wins in
franchise history, pathetic franchise, that is. Meanwhile, in Foxborough, you
talk about the MVP race. You look tonight Patriots quarterback
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Drake May He has a pedestal for himself there as
the Patsy's play Monday Night Island game, last game.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
The Giants and the patron Now, Jacks are not a
good team. The Jets are not a good team.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
We all know that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
However, everyone will be watching. There's nothing else you can't watch.
The NBA's unwatchable, there's nothing else to watch. We'll all
be watching we like sports, We're gonna be watching that game.
So Drake May's got a shot to jump up a
couple of rungs in the MVP race.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Here climb the ladder as.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Stafford stalls and kind of goes back down. There's a
flat tire there for Stafford. Now the MVP pole position
I believe still open. I was skeptical of Stafford, then
I came, I came around to him, and now I'm
skeptical again.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
But there's traffic ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
There's plenty of traffic ahead, and there's the home stretch
of the NFL season where this MVP will be won.
It's competitive, which is a nice way of saying there's
nobody really that great.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
That's the way we can say it now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Meanwhile, Sunday Night Football, normally we get super sexy matchups,
really hot matchups, real real, just tremendous game, primetime, most
important game of the weekend Sunday night. Not this weekend
Sunday Night football. You had a mismatch the Broncos, a
big road favorite, six point road favorites against the low
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the Commanders and a bunch of backups playing. This game
actually went the overtime, though, how embarrassing for the Broncos.
They had to go overtime against the Washington Commanders for
God's sakes, and Denver was The game came down to
a two point conversion in overtime with just little time
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left on the clock. The Washington Commanders matriculated the ball.
Denver scored first, they scored a touchdown, and then Commanders
came back, drove the ball down the field. They thought
they had scored a touchdown, there was a penalty. Then
they did score a touchdown, and then you make the call.
Dan Quinn's like, hey, we suck. Let's go for two.
That's what bad teams do. Go for two.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Why not, don't play for the tie? Go for two?
I liked it. Why not? It's fun in the game
right there, it's overtime. What do you got to lose?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And the Broncos the play of the day the linebacker
Nick Benito El Micho as he came in there, batted
down a Marcus Mariota pass on the receiver the running
back at the back.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Wide open for the Commanders. If the pass, if.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You throw it high like one of those those silly
shadow throws, like when I used to play basketball back
in the day, you try to put the arc way
up in there, and if Mariota had been able to
do that, the Commanders win the game by a point
because they went for two instead. Now the Broncos have
won nine straight as Benito, with the Nito play of
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the day, blocked the pass.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
By Mariota into the ground. That was it game over.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So question should Sean Payton's Broncos be feeling good with
the overtime victory or be concerned that they struggled to
beat a pathetic, ridiculously bad Washington team. So after a
minute long Mallard deliberation, we have determined that we don't
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want to confuse a pulse with a powerhouse. This Bronco
team has a record that would indicate they're a powerhouse.
They just don't pass the powerhouse test.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
They don't. And that wasn't any kind of a statement game.
You were favored on the road.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
If you had stopped the Commanders, you would have actually
covered the spread in overtime.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I had Washington.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
If you watched Benny versus the Penny this weekend on YouTube,
you know I took Watchum they're happy about that that
the game did come down to a two point conversion
at the end. But nonetheless, listen, this was an ant
acid alert for the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Here.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
The Broncos have zero fear factor and that might not
matter in the end and all that stuff, but I'm
just telling you where they are right now. There's no
fear factor playing the Denver Broncos. Washington coming in this
game was three and eight. Three and eight playing a
backup in Marcus Mariota, who was last good when he
played in Eugene, Oregon. Okay, the guy sucks, coming off
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six straight losses and they still went nose to nose
with the Broncos. Embarrassing, embarrassing and why is that two words?
Bo knicks bow knicks. He continues to be a.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Toys r Us quarterback.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He's a Yo yo, he's up and down right one
quarter he looks like Joe Montana and then he's Joe
Schmoe for the Broncos. There there's no consistency. I'll give
you a in the second half of this game, now
forget over him. Just a third and fourth quarter. He
was ten of seventeen for one hundred and four yards.
That's not good. Had a passer rating of fifty two
point one. Bow knicks in the third and fourth quarter,
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and the reason that Washington was able to get back
Denver's last four drives of the second half they resulted
in the first one was an interception.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
The following three.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Punt punt punt, and that allowed Washington to work their
way back into the game. And that's not winning. That's
not winning footballs obviously is not winning football. It's a
holiday trip in congratulations. You're on a nice holiday trip
on the vomit comet. They're on the vomit comet. The
Commanders had more yards than Denver, they had more first downs.
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The Broncos defense, which is they have good players that
look good to me, but yet they allowed Washington to
get more yards.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
There was a in I think it was in overtime,
might have been regulation.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I didn't write down whether it was regulation or not,
but it was like a third and twenty five for
the Commanders with their backup quarterback, and they converted it.
They ended up converting it and kept the game going there. So,
you know, you allowed the Commanders to get sixty scores
in the red zone, thirty first downs, they had more
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first downs, more yards, all that stuff. And so when
the bow show. Then it reappeared he I mentioned Joe Montana,
Joe Shmoo.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
He was Joe schmo in. The second name was Joe Montana.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
In overtime, four or four seventy one yards of the
seventy six on that drive, Marco's capped it off with
a touchdown and there you go.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
So it's like it's kind of like bo Bownix is
like finding a five dollar bill in a jacket that
you're planning on donating. Like it's great.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It's like, it doesn't really, it doesn't really change things
too much beause you play well in overtime.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
So the nine game winning streak is there more more
fools goal than a nine game winning streak. The Broncos
have played this season the Giants, Jets, Raiders, and Commanders,
four of the worst teams in pro football. They have
won those games, all of them by a combined seven points.
Four of the worst teams you can possibly find in
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the NFL. They've won by seven total points, not seven
points per game. Seven total points against the Commanders, Raiders, Jets,
and Giants.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's not that's not dominance. That's faked till you make
it now. There is a counter argument that you do
this and then eventually you start to believe you're actually
good and it can work out for you, but it
doesn't normally go that way.
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Speaker 4 (23:45):
To our lead.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
This hour from Indy, we start there big AFC South matchup,
and well, we had a bunch of NFL games on Sunday.
There were only a few of them that really rose
to the level of interesting. There were some epic mismatches,
games that just had no juice, like Atlanta and the Jets.
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Who the hell cares just nothing there mismatches like Jacksonville
and Tennessee and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
So we're going to focus in on a game that
was decent. Yead.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
The Texans defense was now top three in the NFL
just about every category. Taking on Daniel Jones and the
Indianapolis Colts. I don't if you saw this or not,
maybe not. I had this game circle and if you
watched Benny versus the Penny over the weekend, you know
we told you about the Texans. We liked the Texas
in this game, and it turned out to be the
right side. Nico Collins ran seven yards for the tie
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breaking score that was early in the fourth quarter, and
Nick Chubble loublub added another touchdown run. Houston's defense making
some plays there late in the game to wrap it up,
and the Texans preserve a twenty to sixteen victory over
these in the Annapolis Colts. The better story is in
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the losing locker room. As the Colts go down, they
drop their second straight game. That does not sound good.
And for the first time this season, they have lost
three of four and they have fallen into a tie.
They have fallen into a tie with Jacksonville in the
AFC South and they play the Jaguars this coming Sunday.
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So that seems like kind of a big deal. It
seems like, hey, what's going on a lot of close games,
a lot of non performing late by the Indianapolis Colts.
It seems to be a theme here that they're in
the games and then they don't make plays late.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Here.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Shane Steichen, that's the head coach of the Indianapolis football team,
commenting on how the Colts keep screwing up these games.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
You lose these tight games. Sometimes you win the tight games,
but when you lose tight games, it's frustrating because you're like, shoot,
we can have that, we could add this, can add that.
You look back, it's three or four plays when you
lose tight ones, and so we got to find a
way to get those three or four plays when it
is a tight game like that.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
So Daniel Jones again he didn't want to say this,
because you can't rip your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
We loses our team, We wines our team. Not so much.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So Daniel Jones failed to deliver yet again. If you're
a New York Giants fan, you're saying, you're nodding your head, Yes,
I know that.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
You don't need to remind me. Yeah, so let us discuss.
That's a good jumping off point.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
So the question what do you make of quarterback Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And his performance here for the Colts soul.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I've got e rhythmics, airport parking garage, and foggy bathroom mirror,
and we will combine all of these things together and
we're going to put the biscuit in the basket, is
what we're going to do.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
So number.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
All right, enough, all right, So listen Daniel Jones, who
for a couple of weeks there was being hyped as
Indiana Jones, the iconic Indiana Jones we've seen as the
season has gone on. Here, Daniel Jones, he's Indiana Jones,
but he doesn't have the whip late in the game,
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doesn't have the right hat, doesn't have the right wardrobe,
and certainly without the heroics that case.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
And you want to know the truth, the word here,
the word is underwhelming with a capitol you. That's my
word for Daniel Jones. Here.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Both the box score and the eyeball test tell the
same story. Here Jones fourteen of twenty seven, so a
little over fifty percent of his passes just over two
hundred yards passing, did have a couple of touchdowns. It
sounds all right, it sounds okay, it sounds okay. He
actually watched the game though, You're like, okay, so he
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does okay early on in the first half, and then
as the game progresses on, it gets harder and harder
and harder. With this game was a litmus test. Can
we all agree on that?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Everyone agrees? So it was a litmus test for the
Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You're playing a top defensive team, you're at home, your
favor to win the game, all right, So that's all
important stuff. So this was a test and against the
Texans defense. And how did Daniel Jones do? He failed
the lab exam? He failed the lab exam unfortunately. And
the quarterback apologists, which drive me bonkers.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
You know who they are, the fat boys in the media.
Oh it's never. The players followed, never, even though they
were the ones that actually play the game.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So the quarterback apologists, the softies, the mister softies out there,
they're already rolling out the excuses, the red carpet of
excuses here. You know, he had that de fibular injury
he's not one hundred percent. Come on, give him a break,
give me back. No, he was medically cleared, Daniel Jones
to play in the game. And if you're medically cleared
to play, you're allowed to play. Not gonna let him
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go out there and play if he's going to injure
himself more, because that's a lie. And the NFL's been
sued up the wazoo in the last twenty years by
doing stuff like that. So Danie Jones was medically clear
to play. He's on the field. You are accountable for
your own actions.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Period. End of story.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Now, as for the Colts, the soundtrack for the Colts here,
it's starting to change as the season has gone on.
We've determined it, say you rhythmics classic. Here comes that
sink and feeling for Indianapolis. That sink and feeling. Bring
in some Annie Lennox here and get her singing there.
You could have called this one from the booth, all right,
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how you could have called it from your sofa. You
could have called this one. Let's go to the fourth quarter.
That's winning time in the fourth.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Quarter there, and I got that sink and feeling.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, you got that sink and feeling here a big
money quarterback. That's where you're earn your money, right, make
place down the stretch. Down the stretch we come. So
in the fourth quarter, Daniel Jones had a passer rating
of forty nine point three, which I don't think is good.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
You're being too mean, all right?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
How about this last week in Kansas City, last game
Colts play Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
There he was even worse.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Three of nine that's in overtime and regulation, three of
nine seventeen yards last week, late game situations. So this
is not some kind of one off. In fact, if
you look at it, there's patternicity. There's a trend with
Daniel Jones. And when the moment gets big, big big, big, big, big,
big big, this guy has a tendency to shrink. It's
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just the way it is. So he's in the Indiana
joneson for answers right now. The pattern is developing. Whether
you want to admit it or not, the pattern is there,
and it's not pretty. And the Colts have put themselves
into a corner. Now Sauce Gardner was hurting this game.
He's gonna be out. Looks like for a couple of weeks.
It's not a season aiding injury. The guy that Colts
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traded for. And I guess some people said a soldier.
You know, I love the I told you a guy.
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed the I
told you guy, I told you. Guy emailed me and say, well.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I told you. They shouldn't have done that. Another sauce
card resort. Did the Colts gave up all these draft picks?
I don't I don't care. I would have done it.
I liked the fact that Colts went for it. I
like that. That's good. I'm not gonna rip it for that.
Has it worked out yet? I don't have a problem
with that thought that this is our opportunity and they're
still in first place, although they're tied now with Jacksonville
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on the other side.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
We now go to the winning locker room question. The
quarterback returned, So the question is how did Texans quarterback
cee J. Stroud look in his first game in almost
a month? His first game in almost a month, so
how did he look?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Here?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So watching this while flipping around other games, Stroud stepped
back onto the grid iron. He looked like a guy
that was walking out of a four week nap. That
he he had literally been napping for four weeks, which
I don't think is good. And he was trying to
find his car at the airport parking garage and he
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didn't remember where he parked, and he was taking the
shuttle from garage to garage to garage to garage. He's like, hey, dude,
where's my car. That was an old movie, Dude, where's
my car? First quarter? That was not a lot of
polish in the first quarter.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
There that was oxidation, oxidation, no touchdowns, just hiccups and homework.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
That you didn't do, homework that you didn't do, and
then you're like, Okay, what's going on here? And didn't
look all that great. There's some mental mistakes. For example,
he threw the football beyond the line of scrimmage. That's
a no no. There was an overthrow if he saw
the game, got gift wrap for the Colts defense from CJ.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Stroud.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Two turnovers on downs by the Texans offense. And so
it's like leaving the restaurant without paying the bill, dining
in ditch.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
That's what that had. That's what that was. So a
couple of those here is Demico Ryans, the head coach
of the Houston Texans here and his comment on his car.
I'm sure he's gonna rip CJ. Strod right say it
was terrible. Let's see Le's find out.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
And I thought CJ did a really nice job coming back,
really missing a lot of time. I know some throws
he would like to have back, but overall thought he
managed the drives really well.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
We drove down.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Of course we want to score on some of those.
We get down, had to kick field goals. But overall,
for him coming back not having played in a few
weeks here, I thought he did a really nice job.
If this is where he's started.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
It's only up for him.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
So I'm excited to see how he continues to progress.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
You want to bet it's not only up for him,
because I'll bet I'll take that bet right now. You
want to bet he keeps getting better, I'll bet he
doesn't keep getting better.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
I'll take the other side on that. Now.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
The one thing I will concede, I'm not a total schmuck.
I will concede that TJ. Strodd did a very good
job the Texans offense. On third down, he was pretty good.
He was pretty good on third down. On third down,
he was Johnny Paycheck six of seven seventy nine yards
passing a one hundred and thirteen point seven passer rating,
which is pretty.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Good, which is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And when the house lights were dimmed, Dim dim dim
dim dim Stroud, it was like piano man. He was
third downs engineering some things for.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Houston in the second half on that touchdown they got,
so it's kind of like they tilted the pinball machine
a little bit as the game went on for him
on those third down plays.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
He was not great overall. You have to judge him
on the full body of work. He was not great.
So there was they won the game, and he did
get sacked a couple times, but it wasn't as bad
as it has been when CJ. Stroud was in there
before and Davis Mills took over, and just all he
did was get rid of the ball quickly and that
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was enough. Because of the defense is so good in Houston,
they were able to win those games all right. Now,
final point, we go to Cleveland, Ohio in the forty
Niners road show in northern Ohio, and you talk about
getting it done on third down. The Niners converted sixty
five percent of their third downs I'm told that's good.
(35:15):
They get a twenty six to eight win without any
real gaudy offense from anybody. Brock Perdy, Christian McCaffrey, none
of those guys had big days against the Brownies defense
on a very chilly Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Kind of a day. But don't bury the lead, my man.
We're not gonna bear lead.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So this was all about the spawn of Dion, the
spawn of Dion. So question, give me a single word,
Give me a single word that describes Shader Sanders first
home start for the Browns.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
All right, So my word is dip. That's my word.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Dip, dip as in declining impact performance dip. That's all
I say. And it's exactly what Shadur Sanders delivered in
his first home start wearing those ugly Brown's uniforms. That
this was a chamber of commerce kind of a day
in northern high You don't need to talk to strip
(36:14):
Club John or Ohioal or any other legends in the
greater Cleveland area. This was absolutely a chamber of commerce
kind of day. Right on the shores of Lake Erie.
They're thirty five degrees, damp and breezy, the type of
weather that historically West Coast teams go into Cleveland and
they start hibernating because of the weather, and so the
(36:37):
forty nine ers they showed up and they didn't do that.
They didn't have Again, we say this all the time
without their two headliners on devas, Nick Bosa and Fred
Warner not participating this season.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
They're out with injuries. And Shadur Sanders.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Still look like he was reading the playbook through a
foggy bathroom mirror, looking through the the foggy bathroom mirror,
trying to make out what was going on there. Now,
Cleveland had nine offensive possessions.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
They only had nine in the game. They had four punts,
three turnovers on downs, one fumble, and one interception and
a partridge in a pear tree. That's what they had there.
That's not a stat line, by the way, that is
a confession. Okay, outside of a single broken play miscoveraged
by the forty nine ers for thirty four yards. On
(37:29):
the other twenty four pass attempts by Shreder Sanders, he
averaged less than five yards per pass attempt and as
the game went on he fainted away there. So not
exactly the Mike Leech air raid offense from back in
the day. That's more like an air leak, is what
that was. Flatulence. The Browns were three of eleven on
(37:50):
third down, which I'm told is not good, zero for
four on fourth down, which I know is not good.
I don't have to be told it's not good. And
that is not a conversion rate. That is a clearance sale,
and it is cyber. So please buy our takes. They're
on salf and yet he'll start again. The Browns already said, oh,
he's gonna start against Tennessee because Cleveland has decided, well,
they suck. They're treating the regular season like it's a
(38:12):
pilot episode. They're just doing some testing, little beta testing here,
seeing what they got. And meanwhile, Deonz media buddies, we
know who they are. They're the ones licking the toes
of Shuder Sanders. They'll keep talking about Schaudur Canton Ohio,
that Hall of Fame performance, all that stuff. We're two
weeks in as a starter, two weeks in and we
(38:34):
have an early verdict for Shudur Sanders. He doesn't just
doesn't look like the guy. Don't look like the guy
two weeks into this year, So again, do the dip
declining impact performance for Schudur Sanders and these two starts
he's made for the Browns, they're one in one overall.
Of course, the win has an asterisk. It was against
(38:56):
the Raiders, the Old Raiders.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
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Speaker 4 (39:06):
It's Mallard, Texans Coach to the third degree. Ryan, This
is one Yeah, I sure, Cooper Loop go ahead there? Cool? Please?
Speaker 8 (39:16):
Well, Ben, you just talked to Tree in Chicago about
his Chicago Bears. Yes, how much credit does Ben Johnson
deserve for their success?
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Well?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
A sizable amount of credit, Coop. The Bears have been
chronic underachievers for years. He's apparently simplified things here and
the Bears have surpassed where they normally have been.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
And he's the difference is the coach.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
So you guys say that this is actually helping out
And it's not like Cabb Williams is playing great, because
he's not. He's not playing all that well and the
Bears are still winning these games, So good job by him.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Next, so the Chiefs are a five hundred team and
they might miss the playoffs playoffs. Over the weekend, Patrick
Mahomes said, our ceiling is playing in the super Bowl.
We can beat anybody, but we've shown that we can
lose to anybody.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Ben you agree with all that.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
It sounds good, but you got to look at what
you are this year and what you are this year.
There's been a constant monsoon that has taken over the
Kansas City Chiefs. I kept saying, well, this is gonna
be the week they turn things around, This is gonna
be the week.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
And no, they're just this is who they are. They're
not that good.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
They're just not I don't see I don't see them
turning these around next.
Speaker 8 (40:19):
There was a report over the weekend that three teams
are being linked to a trade for LaMelo Ball.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Do you think he's somebody that you want to go for?
Heils your team around.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Oh, he's a good player. You don't know if guys
like that because he's on a crappy team. And it's
easy to put stats on a crappy team. It's it's
hard when you're winning. They put up says, I'm skeptical.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
How do we doubt how I passed Bugatti? Bugatti? I
passed the truck of Bugatti.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
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Speaker 4 (41:01):
Who here with you talking to son? Hear some intertent advice?
Hold that thought. No one's paid attention to me for
ten whole seconds. And if you don't like it, anyway,
we go.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
It's the insta advice line on screen. Rado Who needs
our advice?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Well?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Who else but the Raiders. They have been eliminated from
playoff contention. The Raiders playoff win drout will continue. They
have not won a postseason game since three. Tom Brady
has made this thing even worse than it has been.
He's a terrible executive slash owner and so any advice
to the Raiders At eight seven, seven ninety nine on
(41:37):
Fox you're live on the air.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
When you hear my voice, we'll start out with you
online Number one advice to the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Line one, Yip, kay, motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
All right, thank you for that line too. You're on
the air.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Hello, line too, we're giving advice. There's Lucky Tony making
his contribution. To the podcast. Line too, you're on the air.
We're giving advice to the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Hello, the Raiders were eliminated and they named Gino Smith
their starting quarterback. That's right. They traded for him and
then paid him. What a bunch of dumb dumbs. Oh
my god, this.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Is one of the cases the fans no more than
the idiots running the teams are yea. Line four, you're
on the airline fur.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Hello, don't accuse me of stealing your nickname. I've been
Ferg Dog before you're even born.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Dog.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
That's right, e Dog.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
We should have Ferg Dog versus E Dog in the octagon.
Would be a big event on the show. Boy, that
would be fun. We should set that up. Line five,
you're on the airline five.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Hello, Yeah, morning time.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
So it is true you can have your head above
water and still drowning.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Get there's the great, the one and only, our friend
Rick and Maryland. Line six, you're on the air. We're
giving advice. So the Raiders they have not won a
posts in game since out three. They have now been
eliminated from the playoffs this year and no playoffs for them.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
God Blet's of Fremno State School nursing.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Hey, there's our buddy in Missouri. It was at in
marine boot camp with the legend most famous drill sergeant
of them all there from Full Metal Jacket. Line two,
you're on the airline too.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Hello, I want some Raymond noodle?
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Okay, Raymond, Yeah, Raymond new that's uh.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I think that's from that old CBS show Everyone Loves Raymond.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
That Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Line number three, you're on
the air line three.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Hello.
Speaker 7 (43:18):
Yeah, champions in March.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Yes, well they do win the they win the offseason,
they do. Yeah. Line four, you're on the airline Force
the incident of ice. Line Hello.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Line four, Oh there he goes, all right, I hurry up.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
One last call. Who's it gonna be?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Cool?
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Bury up? Line five? Line five you're on the go
ahead line. Fuck, go go.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Oh man, we can take Panthers.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
What about you? You didn't call up after the Chiefs game.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
You didn't call you fraud, You didn't call up after
the Chiefs game.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Fraud.
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