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Ben Maller talks about Mike Tomlin meeting with the media and commenting on trade talks involving himself, how Tomlin treated the truancy by George Pickens, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go. Welcome, It's our nu or why our
number one of the original Recipe podcast. Now here in
our number one, it's all about the Yensers. In a
post mortem on the Pittsburgh Steelers season the news here,

(00:20):
Mike Tomlin had a lot to say. So does this
quote by Tomlin the Savior time comment close the door
to Mike Tomlin trade conversation which has been widespread over
the last couple of days. Why would Mike Tomlin fully
dismiss the trade chatter? And is it weird how Tomlin

(00:43):
treated or didn't do anything when George Pickens was guilty
of truancy prior to a Steelers game this year? Some
stories coming out about Pickens. We'll get to that and
a whole lot more right about now, Right about now,
as we plow forward, it's our number one, talking the talk.

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sent shortly, so you will have that. But in the meantime,
our lead this hour from the NFL play the Hits.
We're in the middle of the NFL playoffs, so we're
going to talk about a team that's not in the
NFL playoffs anymore. That's the way that we do business here,
and we start out in Western Pence, Yeah, the land

(03:01):
of the insurers. Following the steelers pathetic performance their fifth
consecutive one and done trip to the playoffs in Baltimore,
Mike Tomlin had his end of year eulogy, his end
of season news conference. It's always a good listen. It's
always a good listen. So I thought we'd enjoy some

(03:22):
of this and break it all down for you. If
you didn't hear any of what Tomlin had to say,
possibly not. Tomlin stood in front of a packed crowd
of eager, eager NFL media types. He was right there
at the podium, and he let it rip. Among the
topics discussed, Mike Tomlin mentioned that the situation the Steelers

(03:45):
anybo you talked about football justice, take a listen.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Certainly disappointing to be conducting this business today. But I
don't view it as misfortune, to be quite honest with you,
particularly at this level, in this business and game, there's
football justice. You get what you deserve, and so you
know we're here, and we're here for really tangible reasons.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Man.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
We didn't involved in the right ways. We didn't strike
the right chords at the right time, particularly down the stretch,
and so we've been eliminated from the single elimination tournament.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, so football justice. I always believed in truth, football
justice in the American way. Here's more for Mike Thomas.
No I got a kick out of this one. So
Tomlin was asked what fans should be optimistic about in Pittsburgh,
and let's just say he didn't take the bait tall
you Listen, you know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Know that I'm ready to be overly optimistic or sell
optimism to you either.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I'm acknowledging what.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Transpired and what has to happen and what is beginning
to happen, and acknowledging the complexity and the amount of
work that's ahead of us.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Certainly feel capable, but you.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Know, definitely doesn't feel in the mood for optimism or
the selling of optimism. I don't know that that's appropriate.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
All Right. See, there you go, no optimism. It's just
gonna keep going on and on and on. Now there
are groups of angry Pittsburghers who are demanding that Mike
Tomlin get out of there. Very angry Tomlin addressed the
vitriol from the base, take a.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Listen, certainly understand their frustrations, and probably more importantly than that,
I share it because that's how I'm wired.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
And so.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'm not a big time comfort seeker, and particularly in
circumstances such as this, I don't view myself as a
comfort provider because there's, you know, words a hollow. To
be quite honest with you, it's about what we do
and less about what we say. And so I've learned
to say very little when things are going good, and
I've learned to say less when they are.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
So Thomas says words are hollow, I would argue that
in my job, that's all we have is words. All
we have is words. They pay the bills, they keep
the lights on. They're very important, the words. The bird
is the word, and the word is the bird, and
the bird pays the bills. All right, So now let's
get to the money quote. All of that leading into this,

(06:18):
Jimmy Johnson started a firestorm on on Fox the pregame
festivities there over the weekend as he tossed out the
idea of Mike Tomlin trade. Of course, that was the
Cowboys for Mike McCarthy, which is impossible because Mike McCarthy
is no longer employed in the NFL, but here's Mike Tomlin.

(06:38):
He was asked if he has a message to teams
that are thinking about trading for him. Take a list.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I have no message, save your time.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Okay, all right, Mike, one more time. I'm not following up. Mike,
can you play any message for the teams that want
to trade for you?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I have no message, save your time?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Okay? All right. That's a great drop. That's a solid drop.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
All right.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
So that last clip is what we call the money quote.
We're gonna play off that. So let us discuss the question,
does that save your time? Commentary by Mike Tomlin close
the door for Mike Tomlin trade conversation. So I've got
farmer boys, Harvard Yard, and cup of Joe. All right,
Farmer boys, Harvard Yard, cup of Joe. We'll combine all

(07:25):
of these things together and we're gonna make some tofu.
Not that I like tofu, but we're gonna make tofu.
All right. So a to answer the question, absolutely not.
This has not close any kind of door. If anything,
it's a revolving door. Now Tomlin's not going anywhere, But
did you expect Mike Tomlin to say anything else. Okay,
he's in the stealer facility, he's on the payroll. You

(07:49):
have to understand time and place. Time and place. Now,
there are parallel dimensions in play here. You've got the
public and the private. That said, even if Tomlin is
absolutely thrilled, absolutely thrilled and really doesn't want to go
anywhere else, which is likely the case, but everyone's got
a job to do. If you're insider in quotes and

(08:14):
in signer, and your job is to get people to
click on things. You're eating many meals at Farmer Boys,
you're doing engagement farming. And there are a few things
that get more clickety clicks than hypothetical wild trade speculation
about Mike Tomlin going to this team, that team, or
the other team. So until every single seat is filled

(08:37):
in the game of musical chairs, there is a chance,
I'm saying, there's a chance, there's a possibility that Mike
Tomlin ends up being repackaged. Now, page two, the optics aside,
Why why would Mike Tomlin dismiss fully dismiss trade chatter? Well,
the answer that's very elementary. He's a made man. He's

(09:02):
got the greatest gig in the world. No matter how
black things go in Pittsburgh, win nine or ten games
every year and they'll make the playoffs, and that's about it.
Mike Tomlin at this point is sitting at a little diner,
little diner just outside Harvard Yard. He's a tenured faculty

(09:26):
member at this point. Now people have said that diamonds
are forever. So is this gig. Coaching the Steelers garantees
you lifetime employment unless you walk away like Bill Coward did.
If Mike Tomlin was traded to the Bears or whoever, right,
what would happen. He would get the standard three years

(09:48):
and then he would have to show tangible results, and
if he didn't show those results, his ass was grass.
If that doesn't happen, if they don't improve any of
those teams, he would be a talking head on television somewhere. Gonzo,
you don't have to worry about that at all. When
you're in Pittsburgh, they never get rid of you. Never

(10:11):
going back fifty six years. You gotta go back to
nineteen sixty nine and Woodstock was in the air everywhere.
Since then, they've had Chuck Noll, Bill Cower and Mike
Tomlin end of list period. Hard stop, that's all. And
Tomlin just completed his eighteenth season at the Helm. Eighteen

(10:36):
seasons at the Helm for Mike Tomlin. Now, the argument
for Tomlins, well, he's never had a losing record. The
argument against Tomlin is they haven't won a playoff game
since Barack Obama was the president. All right, last word here.
So the Steelers wide receiver George Pickens causing some heartache
for Mike Tomlin. Pickens was reportedly lady went to a

(10:58):
little sideways prior to that Christmas game against the Chiefs.
Some new reporting out over the last twenty four hours
that George Pickens showed up late. He had missed the
two previous games because of a hamstring injury. Somebody snitched
on him. Tomlin requires players to get to the game
at least two hours before kickoff. You gotta get there
at least two hours before kickoff. Pickens walked through the

(11:20):
media entrance an hour and twenty five minutes for kickoff,
which means he probably wasn't even in uniform until about
maybe an hour forty five minutes before kickoff, and that
was after the inactive players had already been announced. He
wasn't even there and the act inactive players were announced

(11:40):
by the time he showed up. So when asked about
Pickens George Pickens' tardiness, Mike Tomlin claimed that he said,
I can't answer that. Definitely, he said, because it's been
been a while since the Christmas game. It's been been
a few days or whatever. So so the coach essentially
claimed he doesn't know whether or not Pickens or at

(12:01):
the game. Wait, is it weird? Here's the question, is
it weird how Mike Tomlin is treating what is a
pretty obvious case of truancy by George Pickens. So the
answer is no, it's actually not that weird. People seem
to be outraged by this. I'm not surprised. Tomlin has

(12:22):
a reputation as what Mike Tomlin's reputation. Players coach, players coach,
So when in doubt, coddle the player, rock cup, bye baby. Yeah,
that's that's the coaching technique. But it's not new the
idea that Tomlin somehow does things differently. He is determined
on his big board, Mike Tomlins big boy, that George

(12:44):
Pickens is an essential player. And this has been going
on for fifty sixty seventy eighty.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Probably since the NFL started. It's called cupa Joe coaching,
Cup of Joe coaching. And I go back again to
jim Johnson. Jimmy Johnson famously told the story he was
coaching the Cowboys and a reporter asked if he would
treat his quarterback, Troy Aikman at the time, the same
way as some third string lineman if he caught both

(13:17):
of them dozing off in a team meeting. And Jimmy
Johnson paused for a second contemplated the situation. He said, listen,
if I found a third string lineman sleeping in a
team meeting, I would cut him immediately. Jimmy Johnson stated, Now,
if I found my quarterback Troy Aikman sleeping in a

(13:39):
team meeting, I would carefully and gently wake him up,
and I would ask him if I could bring him
a cup of coffee. So that tells you that Tom
thinks that Pickens is an essential player. He hasn't played
like that consistently. He has just been spur as he

(14:02):
scoots down the field, occasionally making big plays and often not.
In fact, you might remember a game recently where he
had not one, not two, not three, have about four
drops if I remember correctly, an elite late season loss
for the Pittsburg Steelers. But if you believe Tomlin, you're
not going anywhere, and save your time. I'm not going anywhere.

(14:24):
That's it, Okay, See keep an eye on this story.
I have a feeling it's not the end of it.
And now do I think Tomlin's going somewhere? No, I
do not, unless he chooses to go somewhere, because again,
that is in professional sports, the job that you have
until you don't want it anymore and you decide to retire,
or you decide to go do bad television like Bill

(14:45):
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trash is another Man's treasure. Og Art Puffin rides in

(17:39):
on the X machine and says, Yo Ben a savory
Mallard monologue once again on point one hundred, I value
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truly is a sportsvant. Remember you're calling the final score

(18:03):
to forty nine. You said it's gonna end twenty seven
to twenty four Patriots, he said back in the back,
and that you also spoke Flaherty into our beloved the Dodgers. Ben,
what's up with Tyreek Hill? Well, Art Puffin, I'm distracted
by the amazing spread of food looks like you have

(18:25):
in the picture you sent some sweet potato fries, looks
like chicken sandwiches or sliders, and possible cheese covered tater
tots in the in the photo.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Is that what you're eating?

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Ben?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
No, No, I'm not eating any of that. I'm fasting
through the overnight. But that og rt Puffin Loraina sent
a photo and had all those delicious foods in it.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
Well, it sounds like what me and Cooper eating.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Is that what you're eating right now? Really? Yeah? All right?
Did he just take a picture that you sent or
something like that? I mean, looks like a nice spread
you had all that fat.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
It's a psychic Maybe it's a co winnkeeping.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
All right, that's a nice spread. Late night drug tester
writes in from Parts Unknown, says, the Steelers know that
no coach in the world can overcome that quarterback room
or the Watt family curse of the injury bug. Better
off keeping a coach who provides great soundbites. Tomlin is
definitely that Ferg Doog no message, save your time, that's right,

(19:24):
Fir Puffin.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
Is the one that ordered us the food.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
By the way, thank you are Puffin. That makes sense,
all right, very kind of art. I appreciate that I
got none of it, but thanks for thinking to me Puffin.
Appreciate that Ferg Doog right, since says from the Winter
Wonderland that is Fullerton, he says, I checked the show
Rundown instead of asking, but since it hasn't been posted
yet at the time he said this, when can we

(19:47):
expect your daily Australian Open monologue our five or six? Well,
I think what I'm gonna do is that we have
news guys. We have updates all night here. It's a
twenty four hour operation, so I'll let our news guys
handle the Australian Open. I'm sure we'll have the latest
updates from the Aussie Open at the top and bottom.
But just the top of the air, just the top
of the hour overnight. Stevie Meatballs right said, says, please
let the Steelers trade Tomlin so they can achieve and

(20:09):
learn to appreciate a new level of suck in Pittsburgh.
But we have to call it, Stevie Meatballs like suck Berg.
Is that what we have to call it. They will
suck so bad the Rooneyes will finally have to agree
to put the logo on both sides of the helmet
to make them look more like a professional team. And

(20:29):
that's coming from a blind guy. You see, he's a
Stevie Meeballs is one of our blind listers, and even he,
as a blind guy, is upset that the Steelers' logo
is not on both sides of the helmet. Yeah, the understand, Yeah,

(20:51):
we don't need to give the story, right, it's it's
kind of fun. Well, I mean most people know it
by now, but maybe you don't. Oh, in nineteen sixty two,
they decided the Steelers to establish a logo and it's
the same logo, essentially, the same logo they have today.
And it was just an arbitrary decision by the equipment

(21:12):
manager to put it on one side of the helmet.
And that's it, and so some dude in nineteen sixty two,
probably because he was lazy and didn't want to put
the logo on both sides of the helmet, And so
here we are all these years later, and that's just
the way the Steelers do a business. That's it. You know,
we're just going to put that great story, Ben, Thank you.

(21:34):
How the tater tots, they're.

Speaker 8 (21:37):
Not tater tots. We actually got Brussels sprouts. Oh with
a thi chili sauce. Oh, everyone loves Brussels spott.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
No, it's incorrect, delicious.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
They're so good, they're so good.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
We all believe. I believe vegetable lives matter. You guys
are heathens killing vegetables. Those they need to live. Okay,
they need vegetables need to live, and you're taking the
life of vegetables and I will not stand.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Take it again and again.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Terrible.

Speaker 8 (22:02):
We also got sliders, and the sliders are really good.
We got a regular cheeseburger one, and then we got
a what was the one you liked?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
It was a try tip with Jimmy Churry.

Speaker 8 (22:14):
Oh, very very good. There's also one here that looks
like a chicken dinner. So it's got fried chicken mashed
potatoes Cole Slow.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
You know there used to be a talk show host
here your named David Steine, I believe was his name
back in the day, and his trademark catchphrase was Winter
Winter Chicken Dinner. That was his big one.

Speaker 8 (22:31):
I bet he'd liked this little sandwich slader right here,
probably would, and then the other one.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
More And I don't know what you.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Guys are a bunch of.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Cheese steak.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, that's right. I made garlic mashed potatoes the other
day and uh, just outstanding. I had a rip off.
One of my favorite restaurants is a place called The
Stinking Rose in San Francisco, and then they used to
have one in LA.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Didn't you talk about this yesterday?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Had gone? I talked about it off the I didn't
talk about it all. Yeah, yeah, I told you. I
was bragging to you that I I love the garlic.
It's a garlic restaurant, like everything's garlic confused at this
place called the Stink and Rose. And they used to
have one in LA and it was in Beverly Hills,
but they closed because of the pandemic. They never reopened it,
which I'm bummed about. But so I was like, I
kind of want some garlic mashed potatoes like that I

(23:20):
used to get at this stink and Rose. So obviously
I couldn't get to San Francisco in a minute. So
I just found a rip off recipe and put it
together and it was outstanding, and.

Speaker 8 (23:32):
Just you know what's great about cooking it yourself too.
You can add as much garlic as you want, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Like pepper, and you take out the stuff you don't want,
like the recipe have like nutmeg in it, and I'm.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Like, I don't need nutmeg.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
That's actually a nice lead into my next question here.
And I'm surprised that nobody has asked this on Ask
Ben before because it's it's the perfect ask Bend question.
How much garlic do you have on hand at any
given moment?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I have.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I make sure at all times I have a five
pound tag of garlic, five pound, five pounds of garlic,
and I usually you know, it lasts like you know,
a month or whatever, and then but it's five pounds.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
So do you so so you buy the full cloves
like that, like you're not you're not bougie and buying
like pre well, I.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Have I have both I have, I have, I have
both kinds. You can never be that far away from garlic.
It is nature's penicillin. It's just amazing. So I always
have a lot of a lot of garlic. So love it.
Spaccoli writes in He's in Chapel Hill, but his love
is in Pittsburgh. He loves the Steelers, he says, Mike

(24:42):
Tomlin has a long history of, as you would put it,
seeing no evil, hearing no evil, saying no evil. When
it comes to player conduct, normal people like you and
I would call it coaching malpractice. If you don't know
what your players are up to, well, I will guarantee
you Spahkohli, and you've been around the block a few times,

(25:04):
you know that. Mike Tomlin knows exactly when George Pickens
showed up. He's completely aware of the situation. But he
was just running interference and went in doubt play stupid.
I had a coach explain this to me years. He
goes basketball coach. He's like, after the game, we would
ask this coach, what what did you think of so
and so who we knew had a bad game, and

(25:24):
he knew had a bad game, and he would the
coach would always differ, and most coaches do this, so
I got to watch the tape. I haven't watched the
tape yet because they know normally there's no follow up,
and then if they do follow up and ask the
coach a question the day after, say what about so
and so, do you watch the tape? But yeah, I
watched the tape, but we're moving on. You know, that's
the default, so you never actually have to answer the question,

(25:45):
and it's your way to.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Get out of it.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Supermarket Steve rides in trying to touch up my work
because he's a schmuck. He says. The better coach showing
star preferential treatment is the story of LT with Bill Belichick.
He says, I also like Jim Mora saying that they
don't practice with the second string quarterback. That was not

(26:07):
Jim Moore, that was Tom Moore who said that Tom
Moore was the offensive coordinator for the Colts, and it
was I think it was a John Gruden was doing
television and asked Tom Moore why the backup didn't practice
and he said, because if number eighteen goes down, we're
f't and we don't practice being ft as. That was
the quote from Tom Moore, who, by the way, I

(26:28):
was going to have on my podcast. He wrote a
book and he blew me off at the last minute.
So screw you, Tom Moore, Chip and the cues will
be off. Yeah, Chip and the q's rights and says
hey plus on the monologue, these Steelers don't get rid
of coaches. So unless Tomlin pulls an OJ Simpson, he
will be the coach as long as he wants to be.

(26:50):
He's pretty good at this point. Does the job, likes football,
shows up on time, that whole thing, that whole thing,
Stevie Meatball says Ben. It was not an arbitrary to
in regard to these Steelers logo. They put the logo
on one side of the helmets because the owners didn't
want to spend the money to put it on both sides.
It was stayed. They stayed that way for mere tradition's sake. Well,

(27:11):
a lot of things like that started because of tradition.
There's like a whole bunch of examples of that in
the world of sports. That's kind of how that works.
Something gets started.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
You're on your way.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Let's go to the phones. Let's go to my former
legal analyst, and he used to be in Venice, but
now he's in the Koreatown neighborhood of Los Angeles. Our
friend Bill, Hello Bill, Bill, I know I just said
your name Bill Year. Bill. It's almost mid January here.

(27:51):
What are we doing?

Speaker 8 (27:52):
I thought you say that.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
The cut off the cutoff on Happy New Year is
about three days. Three days. That's it, three days before,
three days after, that's it. No more than that, three days,
six days total. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (28:08):
I just I just wanted to touch base and.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Say hello, well, hello, have you do you have your
mojo bag? What have you been up to? Bill?

Speaker 8 (28:17):
I got this farge.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
You're no longer a lawyer.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
I'm a doctor.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Now you're a doctor. What kind of doctor are you?

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Brain surgery?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well sounds sounds perfect. Look at this guy.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
He's already practiced on himself.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I know he's his own patient.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
I'm in treat man, I'm I'm doing brain surgery, man.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (28:52):
I want to ask you in regard.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
To the game on Monday, Yeah, or who you like,
Ohio State or the Irish.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Guys are gonna win that game and they'll won't even
be close by the time. It's all okay, that's all
I get isn't okay?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
What are you?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
And then?

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Are you a Notre Dame fan?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Who do you like?

Speaker 4 (29:22):
I trust your I trust your choice.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's right. I'm great on radio TV. I'm not good
at but radio picks something great. I have a bookie
that I'm oh great. Now you're gonna Now you're gonna
come chase me down, Bill, You're gonna come run and
kick my ball.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
I give you half?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Oh give me half? What is half of? Nothing? Is that?
Why do you call more often? But you're so compelling.
I want to talk to you every every week. I
need to talk to Bill and Venice. Hey, I moved
to Korea to right, I know, but to me, you're

(30:02):
still Bill in Venice. You know even I know you're
in Korea time. But you became a legend on this
show when you lived in Venice and you have the
sound of someone in Venice Beach and then you went
to you went to the Gray Bar Hotel. How long
were you in the Gray Bar Hotel? For you on
a long vacation? Right, it was a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
That I'm not talking about.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking Okay, Thank you, Bill?
All right? Bye?

Speaker 5 (30:34):
Bill seems so sweet.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, I guess you didn't get my reference. That's unfortunate.
Let's go to Big Daddy. From Bill the brain surgeon
to Big Daddy in Memphis, who would like to talk
to his constituents. Hello, big Daddy.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
What's going on? I would like to say hello to
all my fans and all my concisions with men. You
don't have to spend all that money, man, You could
have went to the store and got you a package
of boasted garnet master to taste.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, but I follow this recipe, so it tasted a
lot like the stuff that I remember from the restaurant.
I could have done that.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
It would have been a little cheaper to do what
you said there.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Sure, Yeah, Yeah, it's been a whole lot cheaper. Yeah, man,
I ain't doing working a little bit of public service announcement.
Dion is not going to the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
You guarantee that. I don't know, But Jerry Jones has
put himself in an interesting pickle, A little pickle here
for Jerry, because there's nobody else even in the running
at this point.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Now.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
People on his Instagram he already said all he wanted
to do was coach your son. You don't have time
for the Once the songs get out of there, he
probably won't finish that contract out and get on out
of there.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
The kids are done now, this is it. The kids
are done. Kids are going to the NFL now in Colorado.
So this is his chance to go coach in the
NFI deal.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
Yeah, so whatever that find.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
It doesn't matter. There's a buy out. You know that
these guys aren't lot. It's like ten million dollars. Jerry
Jones wipes his ass and there's ten million dollars when
he flushes the toilet, there's ten million dollars.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Hey man, y'all doing im file you got snow down.
He's not doing that one.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
You're very rude that you're you're keeping all the snow
there in Memphis. Big they send some snow out to California.
They need some snow and so caut here. Yeah, it's
still fires are still going on. People think the fires
are some people think the fires are out. The fires
are still going on. They're all over place, Big Daddy.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
They think nobody those fires, that's what they think.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Well one of them, yeah, the other one appears to
be electrical nature, some power leg caught on fire. But
one there is supposedly video in the Palisades fire that
that they think might have been arson.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
But yeah, get fired.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
He got fired.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
You're hitting it fired. He got laid off. You'd have
to go to management. That was a management decision. You'd
have to check the corporate people here. It was not right.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
Sometimes mansion lucky. They notified them something. They'll tell you nothing.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well five, I mean yeah, all right, thank you, big Daddy.
All right. There he goes about the great Big Daddy
and checking it just absolutely wonderful. So one man's trash
is another man's treasure. Dateline, Jacksonville, Florida. Is it true

(33:27):
that failed failed NFL head coach and motivational speaker Robert Sala,
late of the Jets moving on up the pecking order
in Jacksonville considered a legitimate candidate, a legitimate candidate to
be the head coach of the Jacksonville football team said

(33:50):
to be real buzz. That's what real buzz sounds like.
Just like that. So that's the chatter.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Bad's that, Lorraine?

Speaker 5 (34:07):
That was quality buzzing.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
That was good, right, that was solid. That's listen.

Speaker 8 (34:12):
You could be like a Bee in a B movie.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
That could also be an electric chair, right, somebody could
be electrocuted. See that broke the thing of a drig broke. Now,
Robert Salah was fired October eighth by the Jets. He
coached fifty six games three plus seasons coach the Jets
and was sixteen games under five one hundred. And not

(34:44):
only is he a candidate for the Jacksonville job, but
also the Raiders have interviewed Robert Salad and if he
doesn't get a head coaching job, which is most likely
the case, and the forty nine ers have chatted with
him about coming back to the Bay Area getting a
head coaching See. Sada is one of these guys, you know,
he reminds me of in basketball. There was this guy

(35:05):
who used to play for the Pistons back in the
day named Isaiah Thomas. And Isaiah Thomas was such a
sweet talker if he got you in a room, if
you're like an owner, he knew how to talk the
socks off these rich people. And Robert sala is such
a bull crap artist. I bet you he's the same way.
He's got all the gift of gab, and he knows

(35:25):
how to sweet talk people, and if he gets into
a room, I could totally see him ending up with
the job again that he does not deserve after he
failed as coach of the Jets. Time now for the
who am I? Game? And this is where we pretend
to be somebody else as we call it who am I? Game?
So Vikings coach Kevin O'Connell. Who that's Kevin O'Connell. He's

(35:49):
at coach in Minnesota. So Kevin O'Connell became the first
coach to win thirteen or more games in two regular
seasons and then lose their first playoff game. Again, Kevin O'Connell,
the first coach sends me to win thirteen plus games
in two regular seasons then lose their first playoff game?

(36:10):
First coach? Since me? Who am I? The answer? We'll
get to it. We'll do it next.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Bill Miller, that would be me reminding you that not
only during the live show do we use X, but
you can interact with the show on social media the
Facebook page Ben Mahler's Show. There's a whole community of
like minded individuals on Facebook. They're actually nice over there.

(36:43):
Also on Instagram, you can check out the Ben Maller
on Fox page on Instagram and also promote the show.
Let people know about the show, the podcast all that.
Thank you back, Yeah, thank God for the Internet. Out
back to big mouth Ben Well, Bill, it's not I

(37:04):
don't have a big mouth, Bill. I have a regular
sized mouth and I just talk talk talk talk, talk, talk,
talk talk all night, long time. Now for the who
am I? Game? A blatant attempt to get you to
listen a little bit longer. Thus we call it the
who am I? Games? So Viking coach Kevin O'Connell became

(37:25):
the first coach since me to win thirteen plus games
in two regular seasons and then lose their first playoff
game both of those times. Again, Viking head coach Kevin
O'Connell on a notorious list. He became the first coach
since me to win thirteen plus games in two regular

(37:46):
seasons and then lose the first playoff game. Who am I?
That is the question? What is the answer? Christopher in
Cans City, home of the Ben Mallard Chicken fingers at
the Landing in Liberty Missouri. I was just there a
few months ago. Love it. Good people there and great food,
he says. Andre Agassy is the answer. Romeo Cronell or

(38:12):
Cornell or whatever is he mispronounced Nick? That's Nick. Who
else do we have a page down? Harlan asfre from
Donkey Sausage. Let's see Greg de Hammer. Valentine from Robin Vegas.
Andy in Lionel Lakes in Minnesota says gotta be Minnesota
State's own coach. Hayden Fox Mallard prop guy says, Sir

(38:37):
scratch Off is the is the answer. That's actually pretty good.
That's a I think he's a little chubbier and the
beard's a little bigger Mallard prop guy, But you're not
far off on that, mister Wharf Guessed by King Rory.
Mike Shanahan from Milkman Mike in Colorado. That's his answer.

(39:00):
Buzz Schneider from ferg Dog og Yard Puffin says Coop's
favorite NFL coach, Dan Mile higher Reeves is the answer.
Caitlyn Clark Caitlin Clark Stocker Angry Bill guessed by Jay Dott.
I saw that some middle aged dude got busted for
stocking Caitlin Clark. Yeah, big deal, Like I was in

(39:24):
court and said I did it, guilty on all charges
and leat whack job alf the alien old piner going
with Bill James as the answer. Rod Marinelli from Larry
d our friend Stuck in Sacramento, says Tommy Lesorda, there
you go. Well, thank you, stuck in sacrament the y.
We'll have the unboxing tomorrow. Lorraine, do you have an answer?

(39:47):
Lorraine of Viking coach Kevin O'Connell became me, the first
coach since me to win thirteen plus games two regular seasons,
then lose in the playoff the first playoff game.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
My guess is Vince Lombardi Ben.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Oh, wonderful guess. No, how about Tony Dungee, Tony Dungee.
It's O'Connell, Dungeee Fisher, Jeff Fisher and Marty Schottenheimer did it?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Also?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Hi Mallor
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