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May 15, 2026 40 mins

In hour 2, Ben asks if the NBA is covering up for a bad no-call from the officials that hurt the Detroit Pistons in game 5, how do the Adam Silver's plan for "flat odds" in the draft lottery sound to fans around the league. In the NFL, Sean McVay was not upset with the Rams selecting QB Ty Simpson, but was annoyed for other reasons, is this accurate + Maller to The Third Degree! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Shaka Laca. It's our number two out number two, and
we are ready for you here in hour number two.
You make the call. Is the NBA covering up for
a bad no call at the end of that Cleveland
Detroit game call from the officials that hurt the Pistons

(00:22):
and helped Cleveland out before overtime. The NBA ruled that
the officials got it right. We have some other opinions
on that. Also. How do Adam Silver's plans for flat
odds and the draft lotteries sound to you? And we
move over to the NFL. Sean McVay was apparently not
upset with the rams Ty Simpsons pick the quarterback. Instead,

(00:43):
he was annoyed with the gm less snead over a
different issue. So how does that land on your end?
We'll talk about all that and more as we twist
in the wind. And we also have the third degree
with our friend Bree here in our number two. Do
not do not believe your lying eyes or ears for

(01:05):
that matter. Welcome in the beginning of another hour of
the Ben Malor Show.

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Speaker 3 (02:20):
Be.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
And we were back at it. So normally there's an
ebb and flow here this time of the year, the
NBA Playoffs going on. I was like, okay, so this's
got to be a game.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
But a tremendous job by lebron James and Bronnie James,
the first ever father son duo to be swept out
of the playoff. Congratulations boys, good job by you Lakers.
Another pathetic season of Laker basketball as they continue to
be incompetent. And now I'm not gonna go on a
rand here about that. I was actually planning on talking
about the hockey. Don't tell anybody. So I flipped on

(02:52):
the Ducks and that team from Vegas that should be
named like the slot Machines instead their name the Knights
or whatever. So I flipped that on, and I'm like,
all right, you know, listen, it's rare and appropriate. I
can probably squeeze in a hockey monologue. And it was
such a dog food game in terms of competition. It

(03:14):
was three nothing Vegas I think by the other one
five to one or whatever. So there's nothing really to
talk about. There's no good talk radio in that. We're
happy for our guy towards the Golden Knights. Did not
suck at a time you cannot suck, so we're happy
for that. And they advanced. But our lead this hour,
since there was no basketball, our lead from the way

(03:34):
back machine the end. I actually watched this game on
the plane on the way back. Sometimes. I've noticed flying
more recently that they often advertise hey, free Wi Fi,
free TV on the plane, and it's about a fifty
to fifty proposition depending on what airline that crap actually works.
But this flight actually did have the TV stuff on

(03:56):
this We were to watch the game, and I watched
the every second the NBA game the other night, and
so the story Stilles legs today. So the NBA said
that the officials were correct in not calling a clear
and obvious foul on Jared Allen in the closing seconds
of regulation of Game five the other night the Cavaliers

(04:18):
and Pistons in Motown, Cleveland, they're going to win the
game again went to overtime. The reason it went to
overtime there was a no call on Jared Allen, who
made contact with sar Thompson of the Pistons. The Pistons
guard was going for a loose ball and that led
to the drama o rama in the final seconds of

(04:39):
the fourth quarter. JB. Bickerstaff, the spawn of Bernie, ripped
the call. He said that allan obviously biased alan fouled
us are clearly, according to JB. Bickerstaff, he tripped him
when he was going for loose ball. So did you

(05:00):
see all the fallout on this baby? Now? So the league,
via the last two minute report, which is kind of
like the Holy Bible unless it's not. So they disagreed, shockingly,
saying that Allan Jared Allen and Asar Thompson that they
legally stepped on at the same spot while pursuing the

(05:21):
loose ball before either player had possession and both lose
their balance from the marginal contact. It read essentially nothing
to see here. So that is a good jumping off point.
Let us discuss the question you make the call. Is
the NBA covering up for a bad no call from

(05:43):
the officials that hurt the Pistons or were they right
to not make the call there? So I've got recall up,
brain rot and janitorial staff, and we will combine all
of these things together and we are going to be
armed and dangerous. Now we always start with number all right,

(06:12):
So just again hold your hand and I'll kind of
walk here. So it's a tie game at this point.
The clock's winding down. There's about less than two seconds left,
two seconds or left, and Asar Thompson is in prime
position to be the hero. He strips Spider Mitchell, who
played a lot like James Hard. James Hard actually played

(06:35):
okay the last couple of games, and we's due for
a couple of duds, so it's not over for the Pistons.
But the point is that the play was made by
Thompson to get the strip of Mitchell, and then the
situation sing happened. Jared Allen's right foot clearly took out
Assar Thompson's legs. There's no ifs, hands or butts about it.

(06:57):
Any reasonable human being would say that is a tech
book trip in real time. Now, instead of the bonus
and a trip to the line, we got situational blindness
from the Zebras. And then what happened after this was
a recall La moment. The NBA referee swallowed the whistle

(07:17):
so hard on this one that they're going to need
a throat lozenge and an X ray to examine what happened.
That you can't trip a guy in a tie game
and have the league pretend that it was just some
kind of weird yoga stretch. And watching Jared Allen's body language,
it looked like that wasn'n intentional, Like he knew he
could get away with it, and he did get away
with it. He did get away with it. The Cleveland player,

(07:39):
Jared Allen, he knew he was gonna get away. But
this is the NBA doing damage control because they hate
even though they have to do this for gayzy two
minute report, last two minutes of the game report. They
hate admitting the real obvious mistakes. They're tripping over their
own to protect the brand. Reflex kicked in the replay
showed a blatant trip. Even blind Emmett, who doesn't call

(08:02):
the show anymore, the old Seahawk fan. He's he's, she
could see it, blind Em. The league's official statement was
just a pathetic shrug, all right, just a shrug. Are
Jerry and Rhode Island songs. The Pistons got kicked in
the nuts by the NBA. They basically said, play on Fellas,
which is unbelievable that you could just allow in the

(08:25):
last two seconds, okay, where we've lost the ball, the
Pistons are about to get the ball, and the Pistons
are in the bonus, we're gonna allow Cleveland to kick,
to clearly kick the Detroit player. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Meanwhile, to Ping Pong City, where is that? Well, that
would be in New York. He commissioner Adam Silver, saying
recently the NBA's goal with the draft lottery is to
create a system of flat odds. According to Adam Silver
from somewhere far away outside the Milky Way galaxy, although
it's conceivable Silver is part of the group of aliens

(09:00):
that live in the waters Pacific Atlantic, you name it anyway.
The quote from Adam Silver, he said, there's even something
we're calling draft relegation. He said, well, I love that.
When I hear that, I get a little excited. Relegation.
That's the one thing they really get, right our friends
in Europe that we don't have here in American sport

(09:22):
is relegation. So he said, there there's even something we're
calling draft relegation. The commissioner said that if you're one
of the bottom three teams in the league, you're actually
having worse odds than teams that sort of our fourth
through up until the teams that make the playoffs. He ran,
so essentially anywhere from the fourth worst team to the

(09:44):
team that just missed the playoffs, that that'd be about
the same. They say they're still tweaking it, they're still
futzing around with it, and all that. The question, how
do Adam Silver's plans for the flat odds? I don't
say the lottery was the other day we were away,
But how well the Adam Silver plans for flat odds

(10:04):
in the NBA's draft lottery sound to you, all right?
So Adam Silver's plan here for the flat odds in
the lottery, it sounds great in theory. It's one of
these things that in theory sounds really good. Unfortunately, the
NBA lives in the land of unintended consequences. The analytical
crowd has optimized and monetized the draft lottery in terms

(10:29):
of losing like this is. They've just programmed each other,
the people that work in that business. You see this
race to the bottom, and it is a race. It
is a sprints like watching a marathon to the bottom,
and it isn't just a strategy in many ways anymore.
At this point, I am convinced that it has become

(10:50):
muscle memory. And I'd love for this to actually work.
I'm just a skeptic that it's actually going to work.
I'd love for the NBA to get back to a
case where you were shamed if you had the worst record,
instead of celebrated this loser mentality that has gone across
the sporting world. And I give the nerds credit. You're
very smart. They brainwashed a lot of dumb people to
believe that you should celebrate the bottom teams and the

(11:12):
Jazz and Wizards and Sacramento and all these teams that suck.
And the league continues to be shocked that the TV
partners and a growing number of fans have seen the
light and they're not on board with us. And we've
seen this movie before in terms of the changing of
the lottery. And they put guardrails up. Now this is

(11:32):
obviously not about the lottery, but the NBA put guardrails
up a couple of years back on load management and
what did the drivers do. They still swerved into the ditch.
Load management hasn't died, it just got rebranded. The truth
is the mind virus of openly sucking. Whether that's star

(11:53):
players who are so lazy they can't play and shout
out my man, Joel Embeid. That is it's still undefeated.
That is still undefeated. And you cannot legislate competitiveness when
half the league is addicted to the short cut. And
you can fix the lottery math, I get it, I
do malor math. You can fix the lottery math. You

(12:16):
cannot fix the brain rot that tells the star player
to rest that that is more valuable than getting reps.
And everybody, I get we all love shortcuts, right, It's
part of human It's baked into our DNA and all that,
the shortcut and whatnot. And the NBA is the only
league where losing is considered long term planning, Like Adam

(12:38):
Silver keeps talking about it. I go back to the
phrase I just used, But the incentive to be bad
is also baked in to the DNA. And so the
point of all this is until losing actually hurts and
you're shamed and your mock and your ridicule, which is
what it was like when I was growing up, like oh,
you're embarrassing. This is the worst the words. And I'm
talking about the way I would do it. And if

(12:59):
I become the commissioner, I really should become the commissioner.
With Adam Silver stune is, I would say, listen, if
you are if you're one of the worst teams in
the NBA for back to back years or any year
after that, I am going to give you a lower
share of TV revenue. You will be financially in hardship.
You will get less because you're putting out a bad product,

(13:20):
and that's what we're doing is a TV show, and
your product sucks, and so therefore we're not going to
give you as much TV money because you're unwatchable. And
so get out of here with that. Now, when that happens,
I'll believe it when I see it. The final point
to the NFL. We go to La and another story

(13:40):
popped up this week trying to explain why Rams coach
Sean McVay looked like he was attending a funeral at
the Rams first round draft news comes. You might remember
that we talked about it here. The latest reporting claiming
that Sean mcvay's rather sour puss, his sour mood at

(14:03):
the dais there had nothing to do with Alabama quarterback
Ty Simpson. The reporting recently said that the Rams head
coach had gotten into a heated argument with GM Less
Snead over another topic right before walking out to face reporters,
and McVeigh was still carrying, you know, carrying that emotion

(14:25):
when the cameras came on. So the question, Sean McVay,
if you believe this was not upset with the Rams
picking Ty Simpson instead he was annoyed with his GM
over a different issue. So how does that land on
your end? So keeping it real here, the rams are

(14:45):
doing more clean up right now than the janitorial staff
at Solfidus. This is a scrub a dub dub situation.
You got Sean McVay, you know, through his buddies in
the idiots usefully, it's in the media. His media buddies
who are they're planting the stories say well, no, I'm
not upset with Ty Simpson. I was just annoyed with

(15:07):
less sneed over some mystery issue. Okay, so that makes
it better. So how does all this land? I'm glad
you asked. So this lands like a carefully crafted pr
operation hiding state secrets. If you need weeks of anonymous
leaks to scream everything's fine, everything is definitely not fine.

(15:31):
It's kind of like when you're around a couple now,
I mean your buddy and his wife, and they really
go out of the way. A lot of posting on
social media about everything's wonderful. My experience is normally the
people that post everything's great on social media and relationships
are ready for divorce. That's typically how that goes. You
know what I'm saying. Not always, but typically it's not Mayberry.

(15:53):
Nothing's perfect, you know, there's bumps and whatnot. So this
is a classic over correction. That's the word I use.
Over correction. Sean McVay less need are essentially doing couples
therapy through the media to convince us that they're all aligned.
And it's been weeks. I see the play that they
flushed a first rounder. Whether this works out long term

(16:13):
or not, the Rams flushed a first round pick, which
all of you idiots tell me is the most important
thing in the world. First round pick on a quarterback who,
if everything goes right, won't see the field for at
least a year, possibly two years. And that there's a
large sticker on that quarterback that says some assembly required.
Ty Simpson is not a bridge quarterback. He's a drawbridge.

(16:35):
It's gonna take forever to lower that down unless something
goes terribly wrong. Now do I hope it works out? Absolutely?
Is it risky to me? The real story that they're
bearing is that Sean mvay having to explain to his
reigning MVP, Matthew Stafford, why the Rams organization decided they
no longer are trying to help him win this season,

(16:58):
and they are willing to flush a first round draft
pickaway that they almost never have anyway, and that they're
more likely and this is what they're doing. They're betting
on tomorrow with that first round pick while telling I
guess what did McVeigh say to Stafford that they're all in?
So that would be a lie. And the Rams have
a good team and obviously the most popular team in
the NFL based on seven primetime games. But you flushed

(17:21):
instant help, whether that's another star linebacker, a possible star linebacker,
or a wide receiver or somebody that can help you
right now for somebody who's going to get hemorrhoids sitting
on the bench, and you're a super Bowl contender, and
this is like a Kickstarter project. Seriously, what are we doing?
So I'm sure there'll be more on that, because why not.

(17:42):
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(21:45):
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(22:06):
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we press on here and on and on and on.
We began ranting and raving this hour a little about
pro Bouncy Ball and also the rams. The latest cover
up on the Sean McVay issue with less snead there
is that there's also a developing story here that's been

(22:28):
bouncing around regarding a well known MLB player and the
situation going on with him. But let's going out of
the phones. Impossible jail time being mentioned in all. Let's
go to the phones. We'll say hello to Eny Meenie
miney mo. Let's say hello to Gunner from northern Minnesota,
way past way past Lake Superior, and we say load

(22:52):
to Gunner, Hello, Gunner, welcome.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
Well how's it going, Ben? I can hear you had
a great time.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
It's watch.

Speaker 8 (23:01):
It's not watching. They've gotten through because every time gets
all my hour linch ends up and I can't get through.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yes, Gunner is calling us from the break room at
Walmart right now. He's hard at work. And what are
we having for? I don't want to turn this into
food picks with Marcel because you have a different stick, Gunner,
so I don't want to do that. I'm guessing you're
eating some mac and cheese. Anyone else I want money

(23:29):
in on this. We can go around the room here.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
I'm going to go with a bagel and cream cheese.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, bagel and cream cheese. Had a great bagel in
New York the other day. It was really good. What
about you, bree. Of course you want in on this, Bree.
You want to play the game. What is Gunner in
the break room in northern Minnesota eating right now.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
A peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
That's a classic pbn J solid as long as it
cuts diagonally, not down the middle. All right, real answers, Gunner.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
I'm having a hammon cheaf dandwich.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
A couple of those ham and cheese. That's your go to.
I feel like you eat that a lot to ham
and cheese, all.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
Right, and that that was the closest with the cheese.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well you this is the same which both you what
was saying, which is I want with the mac and
cheese which does have cheese on it? So there is
that you know, that element to it. Yeah, well this
is the part you dazzle, Gunner. This is the opportunity.
You're on the big stage here, Gunn. You're right in
the middle. It's Broadway. Here's your opportunity. You sound great
so far?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
All right?

Speaker 8 (24:33):
Well, Unla putting this game and was a take down
the Spurs night revenge game.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Revenge that I don't say. If that's poppies, they don't
say revenge games. Stop with that. It's a playoff series,
not a revenge game.

Speaker 8 (24:48):
Please, it is a revenge nas revenge on Wemby for
Donut Elbow. That show is suspension, but Wemby because he's
a big star.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
That is that is correct. People actually tune in to
watch Wemby. That's that's usually how that That's usually how
that goes. It's typically that. So you're and so just
for the record, that San Antonio is favored in that
I know that game is in your backyard, way away
from you because you're north northern Minnesota, but in in
the Twin Cities and the Spurs are a five point

(25:22):
favorite that game. How about that?

Speaker 8 (25:25):
Oh? I find was like an ten or something like that,
and now it's tuned down. Dang, that's good.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
There, you're you're optimistic. Look at you. You're all excited
about that.

Speaker 8 (25:37):
Well, I have a good thing. I'm telling John suspending
for a game. So we didn't the last game they
got men on him. I don't know how many people
don't know that one thing that I got you?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
All right, Well, listen, any other amazing, amazing conversation. Anything
else you have to add here? Going? Anything else?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Any want to say?

Speaker 8 (26:00):
Are you gonna be able to come up to the
Mannesota up here because I have an area all set
up if you want to come up. It's turned our
house celebration. There's the music and every day.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I think we're gonna send Hollering James up there to
hang out with you. How about that when you and
James have a promote the Hollering James event. Gunner and
Hollering James a couple of legends. How about Ferg Dog.
You could have Ferg Dog, your big fan, Ferg Dog
could go.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Out hang out to meet the crew.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I want you want to meet the crew?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
All right?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, you know it's these things are expensive, but we'll
see you never know. Not gonna happen anytime soon, but
you never I thank you, Gunner. I gotta go the
great Gunner there. You know what Gunner is? Cock eyed
optimist is what he is? All right? Where on Lorraina's
big board, where is going to Northern Minnesota? Lorena? On
your big board of things you'd like to see in
your life? Right below the Canadian board.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
Yeah, you have a meet and Green in Hawaii first.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, that'd be the thing. We'd have to hang out
with you. You know who Dorco. You know that would
be that'd be a little tough dorko comedian. There used
to be a guy that called me up from Hawaii.
He hadn't called in a couple of years, and he's
a big Raider fan, and he was always sloshed, always
completely slashed there and I don't I'm not sure what happened.

(27:18):
Then I can imagine what might have happened to him,
but he hadn't called in a while. So I've been
to I thought I was in northern Minnesota. I was
into luth when I went on a little tour of
Lake Superior. But there's like a whole another It's kind
of like California, Like when you drive to Sacramento in
California and think, well, I'm at the end of California. No,
it's another couple of hours drive up to get to

(27:39):
the Oregon border. But in Minnesota, like you get to
I was in Lake Superior, and it's like way up
there to get to Manitoba. Like there's a whole bunch
of real estate. You got to work your way through.
Good hunting if you're into hunting, like really good hunting.
Let's go to Joel in Seattle, what's going on, Joel?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Welcome, they uh opening nights against the Patriots. We're gonna
unveil the World Championship right across from there where they sit.
They're going to see it right in front of them.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Well, you say that it's possible that they just maybe
they'll put blinders up and stay in the locker room.
You know, how about that. It's conceivable they might not
even watch. That's usually what happens. They sit back and
maybe they'll have Diana Russini give him a pep talk
before they go out there and take the field.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
You know, that's what we're looking forward to. Yeah, so,
how was Beijing?

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Beijing? I don't know. It was fine, it was wonderful.
I didn't realize I was there. I might have flown
over Beijing on the way back or something like that.
I meant to took the long way. Yeah, okay, thank you.
That's it right there, Joel. Amazing. Unless it wasn't. Well,
this is an interesting story. So we go to Major

(28:57):
League Baseball. Is it true that an all star level
baseball player who got one of the largest contracts in
recent times in baseball has now been linked to illegal
cock fighting? Illegal cock fighting I just did say hello,

(29:22):
dateline Puerto Rico, which is not a U. Why did
we stop at fifty states? Why don't we have more
than that? I don't get it. We should have more
states anyway, Puerto Rico, which is a US territory and
also the home in the off season. Anyway of Edwin Diaz,
the guy from the Dodger and my aching loose bodies

(29:44):
in my elbow. So Edwin Diaz called out, according to
some reports here from the USA Today, which is apparently
still in business, that's rather shocking. And they claim they've got,
you know, photos, and they've searched out he was on
social media. They obtained photographs that show Edwin Diz pictured

(30:06):
in his Dodger uniform advertising cock fighting tournaments in not one,
not one, but two two separate Facebook posts. Now this
goes all the way back to February. So you're saying, well, well,
who cares may now who cares well? The leading newspaper
in Puerto Rico? Who knew there was a leading newspaper

(30:28):
in Puerto Rico, so hey, they published a story. This
actually goes back a little ways as well, with a
photo showing the now Dodger closer was hurt standing in
a pit of the cock fighting arena. And the story
also alleged I guess he quoted Diez as saying, quote,

(30:50):
it's a pastime I've followed since I was a child.
It's legal in Puerto Rico. Thank god, otherwise I wouldn't
be here. That's a translation. Now it turns out fun
fact here that I believe thanks to when was this
twenty nineteen? Cockfighting is not legal in Puerto Rico. There's

(31:14):
a federal ban on cockfighting that went into effect in
all fifty states and US territories, which Puerto Rico is
part of. This happened in twenty nineteen. But wait, there's more.
The maximum penalty for participating in a cockfight is five
years in jail and a fine of you know whatever.

(31:34):
And then also if you're just a spectator, which they're
claiming Diez, I don't know that. It just claims that
he was promoting it. So does that mean he's more
than just a spectator? One year in jail and a
fine just for attending a cockfight? So also a couple
of these, I guess, random dudes who are in Puerto Rico.

(31:57):
One's a horse jockey. I guess the other one is
two one of them very well known horse jockey and
took part I believe in the Kentucky Derby and their
name has been tied to this as well. So I'm
gonna go that this turns out to be nothing because

(32:18):
is that a high priority for the federal It's kind
of like like, isn't weed technically illegal under the federal government?
Are they really enforcing the weed laws? You know what
I'm saying?

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Like, Hey, Ben, yes, I have the theme song for
the cock fighting you do?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Can I play it?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah? Go ahead? Okay, Oh there you go.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Now enter the ring.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Well, I gotta be careful. I could I could do
some play by play here, but it sounds you guys
would take it out of context and I get in
trouble and so I could, you know, say, now coming
in the biggest and the baddest of them all, you know. Yeah.
There was a Fox Sports Radio update anchor years ago
who no longer works at the company, that went on

(33:05):
vacation to Mexico and obviously not Puerto Rico, but to
Mexico and came back and she had pamphlets from her
hotel or hotel you know how those. Uh, I guess
they still have them even on the internet. You know.
You go to on a vacation somewhere and they have
the lobby of the hotel, they have all those flyers,
you know, go do all the touristy things. And in

(33:27):
Mexico they had at the hotel interview pamphlets. Yeah, the pamphlets. Yeah, yeah,
that's at the pamp So they had pamphlets to go
watch a cockfight, and they had I guess they were
on TV. I don't know. Obviously that was a long
time ago.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
There was big cocks. If that's what they're advertising.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well, uh, somebody Michael Vick got in trouble for dog fighting.
If he had done cock fighting, would that have been better?

Speaker 7 (33:50):
No? No, like the cam maybe because people don't like
cocks as much as they like dogs.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, Like the cockfighting. Thing that I don't get is
it's just I mean, like we eat chickens, right like you.
I don't know. It's like I understand it's violent and
there's blood everywhere and.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
All that, and it's all bad any kind of fighting.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
It's just that I don't need dogs though, but I
don't the cock fighting. I feel like there's a gray
area with the you know, well I don't need dog.
Do you eat dog? No?

Speaker 5 (34:20):
No, But I'm just saying, like in the delicacy somewhere.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
There was when I was in high school, there was
a restaurant in town that they The rumor was in
high school that they were serving dog. You know that
was they got shut down by the health department, and
I don't think it was ever true. But I never
went there.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
That was Orange County though, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
It was ill, but I never went because I was like, oh,
they might serve you know dog, and I love dogs.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Anyway, I bet you they been to Porto Rico. I'd
have been to port I bet you there's cock fighting
all over Puerto Rico. It's just part of been part
of the car. How are you just gonna get rid
of that? It's been there forever whatever, twenty nineteen, it's
I guess that's been seven years. I can't believe it
been seven years, But that's seven years ago. That's not
that long in the big picture anyway. That's the Edwin
Diez story for you. So put that in your pipe.

(35:04):
We'll see if anything happens there. The Dodger closer where
the Dodgers have really been great at signing relief pitchers
who suck or have other issues. Anyway, time now, time
now for the we have Mallard of the third degree.
Here's the insta trivium. So Jung Hooley had the first
inside the park homer by a Giants player at Dodgers State.

(35:25):
How is that possible? It seems play each other gazillion
times every year. Jung Hooley had the first inside the
park homer by a Giant player at Dodger Stadium, the
first inside the park home run by a Giants player
versus the Dodgers in general. Since blank, all right, that's
the insta trivia. The answer, We'll get the Mallard of
the third degree, and we will do it next.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Bill Miller and you. It is the Ben Mallard Show.
A reminder, lame jokes of the week will be coming
up next hour. Back the comedy club will open, and
in a few minutes Mallor to the third degree in
the Insta trivia. A programming note which is very important
here the Ben Mahlor show has a spinoff called The

(36:18):
Fifth Hour Podcast, which, by the way, Bri she's not
made her debut on the mail Bag. At some point
we'll get her on there, but she's a big part
of that making sure this show sounds good. So she's
part of the Fifth Hour now and of course mostly
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(36:43):
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Podcast available wherever you get your podcast. It's a spinoff
of this the Ben Mallor Show. It's Maller how about that?

Speaker 4 (36:55):
To the third degree, this is one big gets quilled.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
But before we do that, let's pay off the Insta
trivia otherwise I'll have hell to pay and then we'll
do the official third degree. But I like the open
sounded good. Jung Hu Lee had the first inside the
park homer by a Giants player at Dodger Stadium and
the first inside the park home run by a Giants
player versus the Dodgers since blank, all right, that's the question.

(37:23):
What is the answer, And let's see does anyone know
the answer? We go down page down here, John Montgomery
Ward from The Great Jayscoop. Good job by Jay Scoop.
But we're proud of Jay Scoop. He had a big
moment in his life, passed a very difficult tests that
we're happy for Jay Scoop, proud of him doing well.

(37:46):
Upward and onward. Late Night Drug Tester says, you are
Ray Lewis, who is fifty one and alive. The white
coat is dead and buried though that where's the coat? Were?
Where's the white coat? Don King? Guessed by Health the
Alien Oldpier. That's a great al very good.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
At the the the.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Photoshop, whatever it is, I guess Ai Tom Goodwin from
Jason that's his answer. That's a funny name. Elliott Page
from Analog Al Madison Bumgardner from Eke and Roseville, Minnesota.
The Great Ike met him as well a couple years
back in The Sawman in Mississippi with Catfish Hunter is
his answer. Willie May's guest by Robbie the Mariner fan

(38:28):
Speedy Gonzalez from JT. The Wingman hop Sing from Johnny Q.
Jeff Kent guest by Ralph big Bird from Gunner on
break at Walmart. Chris Sabo guests by Preller Forever San Diego.
Padres suck up? What else do we have? Who's your?
Bill says it's himself. Do you have an answer, Lorena.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
I'm gonna go with since pizza was invented?

Speaker 1 (38:53):
All right? The interesting answer, it's actually since Larry Herndon
hit one off Fernandola in nineteen eighty one, when I
think neither of you were alive. All right, here we go,
here we go, Here we go, Here we go, here
we go, here we go here Bray, all right, what
do we got? Bret Brief already guys in the house
here all right?

Speaker 7 (39:12):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
Last weekend, Steve Kerr agreed to a new two year
contract with the Warriors. This week it was revealed that
Steve had all but decided to retire, but the Warriors
win over the Clippers change his mind. Ben, do you
think the Warriors can get back to championship contention?

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Here?

Speaker 7 (39:26):
You're still there?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
No, he's just ridiculous. The Warriors are going to be
back to the Donald Foyle Warriors. What are we doing here?
I don't understand. I don't understand this at all. Steve
Kerr like, what are you doing? He he did D
and T before he went to the Warriors. I used
to have him on I did Weekend Show. Steve Kerr like,
what are the team's gonna stink? Kurrs not get anybody.

(39:48):
They're gonna get rid of Draymond Green. They should get
rid of Draymond Green. No, they're not any work. What
else is he gonna say?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Though?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Right next?

Speaker 5 (39:54):
A feature on NFL dot com dropped on Wednesday naming
the most vulnerable division champs heading into next season. List
to the Steelers at number one. It seems pretty obvious,
since we don't even know who their quarterback is going
to be. Ben, Who would you have as the second
most vulnerable division?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
This is obvious. Also, the Seattle Seahawks that that was
a fluke run. They got the championship hangover in Seattle.
So for Sam Darnold, please the Patriots, they played a
bunch of cupcakes. You go down the board. The Broncos,
I can say that because Coop's not here. I don't
trust them. The Eagles are vulnerable, Caroline Jacksonville. But I'd

(40:28):
see Seattle and the Patriots at the top.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
Next, All right, Giants side receiver Molik Neighbors underwent a
second surgery for a clean up procedure and his knee
in New York is hopeful he'll be available for Week one.

Speaker 7 (40:38):
Ben, is this a red flag for you?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Well, it's not ideal because you got Harbaugh coming in.
You want to get off to the good start, get
rid of the bad mojo that's been with the Giants.
This is a setback, but it's stamp. We'll find it's
one wide receiver is not going to change it. You passed,
you passed, breaking me a back past
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