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January 24, 2025 • 39 mins

Ben Maller talks about Sean McVay saying he's hoping for a Matthew Stafford retirement decision "sooner than later," the level of concern that the Rams will be looking for a new QB, the Lions not expecting a drop off for Jared Goff without Ben Johnson, Maller to the Third Degree, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boom Shaka Laca. It's our number two original recipe podcast.
Sean McVay says he's hoping for a quick resolution on
whether or not Matthew Stafford is quarterback's going to retire.
How concerned is McVeigh The Rams will be looking for
a new QB. Also, the Lions do not expect any

(00:22):
drop from Jared Goff with Ben Johnson. How do you
see that working out? We'll talk about that some other
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Speaker 2 (01:37):
B.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
So I leave this hour. Keep it simple, keep it simple.
Why not not the playoffs? Layoffs? No, but our leaders
from Los Angeles, the Rams who won the NFC West.
They were better than that week Seattle team, the overrated
forty nine ers and Alligator arms Kyler Murray. So the
Rams made the playoffs yet again they normally do, Sean McVay.

(02:01):
They beat the Vikings, a team that had in one
of the great seasons in franchise history, and dominated that game.
They had a chance to beat the Eagles in the
final seconds on a snow game in Philadelphia. And now
they're hanging out pivoting to the offseason. And there's some
debate on what's going to happen with Matthew Stafford. We

(02:22):
mentioned this in a previous episode of this show, and
Matthew Stafford was rather vague after the loss to Philadelphia. So,
if you haven't been following along, Sean McVay has now
entered the chat on this and maybe maybe you missed it,
but Sean McVay hoping to get some clear now. Now,

(02:42):
last year Matthew Stafford was debating whether or not he
was going to play, and it came down to when
training camp started for the Rams. It was like right
either right before or a couple of days after training
camp started, Matthew Stafford agreed to a a contract with
the Rams. The deal was for just one year, forty million.

(03:06):
Good work if you can get it. And now they're
back at a fork in the road. Does Matthew Stafford
want to play football again? Does he want to play
for the Rams again? Do the Rams want Matthew Stafford back?
Do they want somebody else? And so Sean McVay was
asked about the situation with Matthew Stafford and the reworked
contract and will it come down to the very end

(03:28):
before training camp. Well, here's what McVeigh had to say,
take a list, that's not so.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
I don't think that's good for anybody. I think sooner
than later, being able to get that clarity, understand, clear,
open and honest communication. I think there's a lot of
love coming from our part. I think there's a lot
of appreciation coming from his part as well. You know,
I think a lot sooner than later. Jordan is an
ideal scenario, and I think the appropriate thing is is,

(03:54):
let's let the emotions settle. You know, Matthew and I
have obviously talked. He knows how important he is to
me and our football team.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I thought it was a great dialogue.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
And then I think the appropriate timeline for us is,
you know, we'll get a chance at the end of
next week to.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Really sit down.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
That'll be one of the first topics kind of on
your to do list to be able to talk about.
And then hopefully that'll give us the opportunity to be
able to, you know, move towards you know, clarity in
regards to how that affects his status and what we're doing,
you know, with what we know is an incredibly important
position for a football team moving forward.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
That was very long witted, but Sean McVay slobber chops
there a little hawktol action there for Sean McVay. When's
the last time your boss said I love you and
you mean a lot to me. What does that happen
regularly to you? I don't know. Maybe he does. Maybe
everyone has their boss say how much they love you
and mean to you and all that. I don't think
that's normally how it works. But let us discuss the question,

(04:51):
So Sean McVay, as you just heard, saying that he's
hoping for Matthew Stafford's decision whether he's going to retire
or not, sooner than later. So the question on the
big radio dial here is how concerned is Sean McVay
that the Rams will have to scramble to find a

(05:12):
new quarterback. So my observations, I've got Stone, Zebra, and Gatorade,
and we will combine all of these things together and
we are going to make gringo tacos, the crunchy taco,
my favorite kind of taco, the crunchy taco. We'll do that.

(05:34):
Tacos dorado they call them. Now number wa what number
is it?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
All?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Right? So the Rams, you got to go through the
backstory before you get to where we are right now.
So how concerned is Sean McVay. The Rams were ready
for a divorce from Matthew Stafford a couple of years ago.
They thought he was barbecue chicken, right, they thought he
was cooked and all that, And to his credit, Staffords
rebounded and he's had a bit of a renaissance back

(06:05):
to back playoff years now. That said Sean McVay, his
level of concern that on the Mallord scale of concern,
the Mallord scale of concern for Sean McVay one to ten,
McVeigh is at a two. He's at a two on

(06:27):
the Mallor scale of concern about whether or not Matthew
Stafford comes back, because eventually Stafford's going to retire, right,
and it'll provide another stone, a stepping stone for the
Rams coach. He can add to his legend. And he's
one of these guys. An obstacle is a stepping stone
for bigger and better things. And Sean McVay, who did

(06:50):
work for a team called the Redskins. I know that's taboo.
You're not supposed to say that name anymore, but that's
who McVeigh worked for. One of his first big jobs
in football was with the old Redskins. Jay Gruden hired him.
But McVeigh is chasing down another Redskin coach, Joe Gibbs.
He's already gotten to the Super Bowl twice with two

(07:11):
different quarterbacks, McVeigh with Jared Goff and Matthew Stafford. One
with Stafford lost with Golf because Goff puked all over
the field against the Patriots, but Joe Gibbs. As you know,
the only coach to have won three Super Bowls with
three different quarterbacks, Joe Thiseman, Doug Williams, and Mark Rippin.

(07:33):
And if McVeigh can go out and find another diamond
in the rough and get back to a Super Bowl,
he will tie Joe Gibbs, which, by many accounts is
the great accomplishment. Andy Reid got there with two. There
have been other coaches that have gotten there with two
like McVeigh, but three, now, that is that's next level.

(07:53):
That's next level. And Sean McVay is one of these guys.
Like most coaches, he's the leader of the pack, and
he's got all the answers to the test and all that,
and so he thinks of himself as a quarterback whisperer.
It's gonna be interesting to see who he picks next. Now,
with forty nine million, if Stafford leaves, they're gonna have
like forty nine million dollars in CAP. Now, I'm a

(08:15):
CAP truther, so I don't think that matters either way.
But the Rams will have plenty of room to go
out and make some kind of radical movement quarterback if
they want, or they can just sit back and draft
some wide eyed rookie and hope that they turn out
to be all right. Now, page two, we head to Motown,
where a former Rams quarterback is in the spotlight a

(08:40):
lot of concern. The Lions were Numero UNO in the
NFC this year and now they've lost their defensive coordinator
and their offensive coordinator. But the issue is behind the curtains,
what's going on in Detroit with that offense? Because most
people don't think that Jared Goff is all that good. Right,

(09:01):
So he played well during the regular season. So now
that Ben Johnson is gone, that changes the dynamic, right,
that changes the dynamic. So I bring this up Lions
General manager Brad Holmes. What up Holmes? Brad Holmes? Now,
he says he does not expect any drop off from

(09:24):
Jared Goff without Ben Johnson around to call the plays.
So status quo, smooth sailing, all that. So how do
you see all this working out in Detroit? So my
first thought is, did you really expect Brad Holmes, the
GM of the Lions, to come out and say, oh, yeah,
we think Jared Goff is going to play like a

(09:45):
kittie cat, and he's a he's a kitten, and that's
what he's gonna play like. Here, come on, Jared Goff,
I'll use a different animal analogy. Jared Goff is he's
wearing Lions clothing, but he's a zebra. Zebra in Lions clothing.
Can a zebra change its stripes? Well, we know the answer, right,

(10:06):
And he has set himself up Jared Goff. It's the
Peter principle. He has reached his highest level of incompetence
and he remains there. Now. He's not a bad quarterback.
He's just not that good in big games. He's a
solid regular season quarterback who plays very well against substandard opponents,
the short passing game, the checkdown passing game. In big games,

(10:31):
Jared Goff becomes a dukie, not a duke blue devil.
He becomes the duke of Puke is what he becomes.
In his playoff career. Jared Goff with the Rams and
the Lions has run the gauntlet. He has nine touchdown
passes and nine turnover plays, five interceptions and four fumbles

(10:52):
in Jared Goff's career. So not all that. Hey, He'll
be fine during the regular season. At some point he's
going to get old. It happens to everybody. But you'll
be all right during the regular season. The problem is
everything's got to be perfect around Jared Goff for him
to succeed. Rams got to a super Bowl with him,
but not because of him. All right, final point, We

(11:15):
squirm back to the NFL Playoffs Playoffs Championship Sunday in
the NFL this weekend, Washington coach Dan Quinn, now Dan
Quinn chimed in. He says that his team, the team
formerly known as the Redskins, the Commanders, feed off the dismissiveness.
That's the word he used, the dismissiveness of the doubters. Yeah,

(11:39):
So how does that one hit you? Dan Quinn, head
coach of the Washington football team, saying that the Commanders
feed off the dismissiveness of the doubters in the media.
So how does that hit you? So it hits me
like predictable right in the schnas right, right, You don't
don't open your eyes. The ball's coming after boone. Right. Oh,

(12:02):
And we talked about a lot about this on the show.
We've come to a determination that it's it's not gatorade.
It's like a spin off of Gatorade that is the
number one sports drink in the NFL and all of
professional sports. It's called hater rade. Is it in you? Right?

(12:22):
Is it in you? And I spent my entire time
here coming in and just telling you of athletes and
coaches who won something, accomplished something, and then had to
let you know the reason they did that is because
nobody thought we could do it, and we proved so

(12:43):
and so wrong. And you know, a lot of the
kool aid, like the low information fan, the Neanderthal fan,
that just is a total total drinker of the kool aid,
as we like to say, for their team. I can't
believe anyone like Bill Mafia is a great example, right,
they're very soft fans. Buffalo's a small you know, small

(13:05):
town operation, right, po donk Usa. The way they reacted
to my guy Sports with Coleman tells me that's a
minor league count right, The way they react, it's embarrassing. Right,
you're in a big city. You don't care what Jerry Coleman.
I love Jerry, but you don't care what Jerry Coleman says.
But they got so upset with Sports with Coleman, Right,
they should be thinking they should be thanking my friend

(13:29):
sports with Coleman because it provides extra fuel in the tank. Right,
And I will remind you this is a yet again
a teachable moment that the doubters are the spark of
life that lights the fire under athletes. And if everyone

(13:50):
said only nice things about professional sports teams and athletes,
I don't know what would happen. Nobody might show up
to play. They'd be like, I don't know what to do.
The only reason they try to win, it would seem
is because somebody didn't think they could do it. My oma,
What in the world? All Right? It is the Ben

(14:12):
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(14:35):
I just said. As far as the eight seven seven
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You all say mee ow mee ow mee lee.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Let's go birds, Let's go birds, Let's go that's my mayor.
I can't play that enough. That's my favorite sound. I
think we're gonna play that on the TV show this week.
We got to play that. That is so good? God?
Is that great? Hey, Dare you're representative of the city
of Philadelphia. You're at a rally supporting the hometown football team,

(15:12):
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All right? Is the Ben Malor Show, which you'll be
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(15:34):
see what truck can we get? The Menendez trial? What
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thousand who knows? Looking for a new trophy. I would
like to get my hands on a new trophy. What
is that all about? What is it all about? We'll
get to it and we will.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Do it.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Next.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
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back to the madness we go. Well, Bill, there's no
madness here, although there is madness in the building because
Loraina has been dealing with a ghost in the vending

(17:13):
machine at Fox Sports right now. I'm boycotting the vending
machine at Fox Sports Radio for multiple reasons. The main
reason is when they installed the vending machine years ago.
We've told this story before, but they had nineteen nineties
prices in the vending machine.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
Like ten cents for a cookie.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
It was really cheap. And then one of the one
of the engineers who no longer works at the company,
went to management and said, hey, these are the prices
are too cheap here. Who does that? Seriously? Who does?
And so they raised the prices and screwed up the

(17:54):
entire company. People that want to save a couple of
bucks on some m and ms or some snacks. And
but Lorena, you are a regular consumer of the vending machine.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
Yeah, thanks for calling me out, Ben, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well no, A coople loop is also I sit in that.
I'm fascinating. I sit in that back room. I get
get there early before the show and stuff, and I'll
i'll sit in the very back room. I have a
view of the vending machine, but I'm usually in the dark,
so I'm kind of like sitting there like like a
spot sees I am. I am amazed how many people

(18:26):
walk over to buy a little snack.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I know there are people from the fifth floor that
come down here to use that vending machine.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
It is wild. I'd like I thought when they put
that in. I thought, maybe they'll sell one or two
items a day. But and I'm there at night, right,
I'm not there. Imagine during the day what it must
be like. There must be high and the vending machines
out of a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
There was one guy that used to work here that
I don't believe so anymore. And I know that whoever
owns that vending machine has really bummed that he no
longer works here.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
He was a big consumer.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh yeah, he worked for Steve Harvey.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, I think I know, kind of
a shorter guy. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I know what
you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
He would go like three times a night.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Wow. So, Lorena, you went down there to try to
buy a nice snack the other day.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
I was actually trying to surprise Coop because the day
before he really wanted the Sour Patch kids, but they
only had the watermelons in front. So he took one
for the team and he got the watermelons. So yesterday
when he went to go get a water I was like,
you know what, I'm gonna go get the Sour Patch kids.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
And I'm not surprised. Wonderful, what a wonderful thing.

Speaker 8 (19:32):
To do.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
I'm a very thoughtful person. Anyways, so I go over there.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
That's a humble brag, thank you.

Speaker 7 (19:37):
So the day before there was two sour patch kids
in there, but yesterday there was only one left, so
we're down to the final sour patches.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's because nobody wanted the watermelon one. He was just
sitting there for days.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Why do people not like the watermelon?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's cause it's because they're not really they're not really
sour okay.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
And they're not the original. Everyone just likes the original.
So anyways, g yeah, I put in my money.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
The thing he starts to go, the bag falls and
it hits the glass and it's like stuck, like like
diagonally stuck.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
But it's not because it's wedged.

Speaker 7 (20:10):
No, no, no, that would be nice because that means
I could have unwedged it potentially, but no, the plastic
is actually stuck between the vending machine wall and the little.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Thingy that spins coil.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
Yeah, and since it's the last one, it'll just tell
me it's out, so I can't just buy another and
get two for one.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
Huh huh.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Now I have a couple of questions. The first question
is do you think the person that put that in
did it like that, Like they accidentally put it in
and it got pissed.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
I'm gonna go post this on Twitter for so here's
my thought.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I feel like it wasn't intentional, but it wasn't It
wasn't done properly because over it's it's the one closest
to the edge the wall, right, it's the first in
the row. And I feel like sour kids are a
heavier item than most of the other things in there,
so it's more likely to get stuff, you know what

(21:09):
I mean, I don't know get we in this see
you thing?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
It should have been like it was in C ten.
You think it should have been in like C seven
or C eight exactly. Now, if you're curious, the FSR
vending machine. C seven has Oreo cookies. C eight has
these are like peanut butter crackers, and then you've got
sweet and Salty in C nine, and then you had
the sour patch. All those items a dollar fifty A

(21:34):
dollar fifty that's how much they cost there.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
This is so frustrating to look at, Ben and I
just want everyone to see on the back side of
this bag that there is a little man waving.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Are you tweeting this?

Speaker 6 (21:44):
Yeah, I'm gona tweet.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
This is the kind of content that people need on
overnight talk radio. And the other thing too about it is.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Sour patch dilemma. What is this Grimlin's in the vending machine?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
What is there a number on the vending machine? Know,
sometimes the vending machine will have a number. If there's
a problem or something, you can call whatever.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
To have that all assist me for a dollar twenty five.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Now, let me tell you some When I did midday radio,
many many, I mean this is a long time ago.
The coolest listeners. We had the vending machine guy that
filled up the vending machine. I was doing middays and
these guys would show up to our remotes with boxes
of Doritos and the cookies and candy bars that were extra.

(22:26):
And as a fat man at that time, this was
like Santa Claus. This was amazing. Would bring all this
extra food and they just had it all the time
because they were I guess extra. I don't know how
it worked. Maybe they were embezzling the food, but they
always had the If you can be friends with the
vending machine person, you will be rich in snacks like Lorena.

(22:48):
You should find a nice vending machine man to date,
and then you can get all the sour patch, all
the Oreo cookies, the candy bars you could possibly want.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
That is a brilliant idea.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
Also, people who work for claw machines. I love the
little stuffies.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's one of the great scams claw machine.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
When I worked at Red Robin, I would be like,
give me that key. That one's cute.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
I'm going in.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Oh did you and were you able to? Yeah? You did? Yeah,
I watched uh went I went a couple of months ago.
Was it daven Busters That's is that a national thing? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (23:23):
That is a national thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
So they had a claw machine, but it was like
a high end claw machine where you had to pay
like extra for it, and there were people lined up.
It was like you were online to get tickets to
see Taylor Swift or something. It was insane. And I
stood there because I was fascinated, and nobody got anything.

(23:44):
But they were still trying. They were still going for it.
You know.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
Anyway, Hey, those vending machine places are really busy. Those
are like they have really good toys now, like no
doing quality products.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
You can win My younger brother, the one that in
Wisconsin very good at the claw machine, and we would go.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
Out with that is such a skill, it is right,
and he would aways press a girl.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well not girl. He impressed my nieces. You know, they
don't really count, but they would. We'd go out and
my uh, we'd all go out, and then he'd always
get them stuffed animals. And I'm like, I couldn't do that.
You know, I got nothing. I got no skill with
the claw machine. I just go to the phones cashing
a golden ticket. We say, hello, is he awake or
is he asleep? Hollering James is going to break down

(24:30):
that Viking playoff game this weekend. Hello, hollering James, ca hello, man, Yeah,
he's awake.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Squid lost.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
No, they didn't. They won. No, they went to they
went to the booth review an expedited review, and they
determined that the Range actually lost that game.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
No, I'm filling the challenge flag. I'm following the challenge
flag on you, Ben. They took a tough pa.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
No, no, no, you were sleeping. They actually the Vikings
won that game.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
You're right, I slept because I wanted them to win,
because I thought I.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Would bring him good luck by sleeping, you thought they
would have good luck.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
I needed luck to Win's not playing environment.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
It wasn't a hostile environment. There were Viking fans there
than RAM fans.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, but you know what that's because they feel sorry
for the RAM fans. And I hope you're safe. Then
I hope boy Right is safe. I hope you keep
Coop safe because I know Coop don't like me. I
don't even think wanted me to play too much or
not enough for and then the other games you can
win gold and take your time because I don't think

(25:54):
Coop thinks I know what I'm talking about. Now.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Do you think that's a you problem or that's a
Coop problem? What you think you think that's your perceiving
that that cool? Pats your Gutsop? Do you hate hollering
James side of.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
Me and an ass out of Coop?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I don't hate anybody.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
You don't hate anybody.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Is there a strong distaste?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Why are you asking me this?

Speaker 8 (26:14):
Then?

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the story.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Ben's a reporting mine and reporting minds want to know.
I just.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I just don't like how you seemingly purposely try to annoy.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
Me on purpose? Yes, just annoying.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well, I don't know. You hang up and call back
like fifteen times a day. Why don't you just call
once and stay on hold until Ben takes your call.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Because I got an o'bamble phone. I got the group
home house phone so that I was acceptably on charge
because I live with the house name calling in and
I have to share the phone with him. And if
there's not enough charge on.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
It, mister Ben, that would explain one hang up and
one callback. You do it fifteen times.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Because I'm a multiple choice?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
What is that your needs means? By the way, Cooper,
you have to learn the art group of the the
the answer non answer for the non answer answers. We
gotta learn, like I have nothing to say on that,
no comment, no comment, Yeah, next question the same.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
My friend can be better next year. And if Donald
decides to leave, we've still got McCarthy and let us
trade for Stafford. Why don't we make a deal with
the ramsay you have McConnell is a good for the
Sean mcvay's. We can make a deal with the Rams,
get and get out Stafford over here and trade Sam

(27:55):
Donald for Stafford Okay, you played for him before. Send
them back there.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Now I'm gonna hang up on you. You're gonna go.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Take a track.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I can't. I can't do that. But thank you.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
He's gone, Ben, He's gone.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Are you sure about that? He'll call back. He's probably
calling back right now. Hey, what's going on? Come on?
Put me on another good non answer? Coop is I
don't want to speculate on that. You know, my favorite
is coaches when I go out and do those interviews
after games and they'd be like, somebody would obviously f

(28:34):
up and cost their team the game, And I say,
what do you think of that? I gotta go back
and watch the tape. Doesn't really don't need to watch
the tape. Let's go to a man that watches a
lot of tape, professional talk radio caller. We go to
New York and we say hello to eat Dog. Hello,
e Dog, thank.

Speaker 8 (28:54):
You very much for the standing ovation.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
You're welcome.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
Okay, this is what I gotta say. I'm sorry if
I called you late tonight, but uh, I was on
the chat line for a little while.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
You run it. Why would you be on a chat line?
It's twenty twenty five.

Speaker 8 (29:13):
I don't know I have a golfer and her name
is Melissa, and I gave you a number, so she
should be checking in soon, maybe either today.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
No, Melissa's gonna call into the show.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
She is.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
She good on the radio.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
Oh, she could talk. She's a big Yankee fan, though.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
No, you're not a Yankee fany dog?

Speaker 8 (29:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
You're a Mets fan, aren't you.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Well? You know I go I go for the Mets
and I go for the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
You know, now, you can't be both. You can't be both.
You got to pick one be both. You aren't you
on Long Island? Aren't you? People on Long Island are
Mets fans. They're not Yankee fans, you think so? I
know my brother.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
I got the bills against the Chiefs on a hunt
and you know that showed my because of Vinnie.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Didn't you used that line yesterday? Didn't you? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Did they pay for the fish?

Speaker 8 (30:08):
So they forgot the pay for the tuna fish?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oh? Yeah? Are you breaking? Are you doing a review
of my cousin Vinnie? Is that what you're doing right now?

Speaker 6 (30:18):
I love that movie.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
That is one that is one of my favorite movies.

Speaker 8 (30:22):
That is one of the Mars was great on the winners.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
How about this one? He dialed, how about this one? Hedg,
what is a ute? What is a ute? Remember that one?
What is a ute? You don't remember that? You don't remember?
That was the judge that Herman Munster the judge.

Speaker 8 (30:43):
Yeah, that's what I said, Herman Monster.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
No, I said that. You didn't say that.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
You need do Also, you know what I did? I
went to Freehold Raceway, right, I'm the last the last day,
the last race they ever played there, Okay, okay? And
I bet every every race in the horse and I
saved the ticket because that's what happened with secretary. If

(31:10):
you save the ticket on the race, the last race
in Belmone and you hold on to it and the
one one they're gonna make, you can make any money
on it.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, but that was Secretary like, you're what are you doing?

Speaker 8 (31:23):
The last race, the last race in the game.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I know, But who's going to pay for this? Who's
going to pay for that? Though?

Speaker 8 (31:31):
I don't know?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I know, Hey, I gotta did you ever see that
you're a horse racing guy? Did you ever see zippy
Chippy race?

Speaker 5 (31:38):
No?

Speaker 8 (31:38):
But my favorite race, my my my uncle used to
like the horse called corporate report.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Zippy, do you know dog? Do you know who Zippy
Chippy is? You're weare Zippy Chippy.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
About?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
No, you have no idea. I'll give you this. So
Zippy Chippy from upstate New York. So not near you,
but upstate New York's finger Lakes. Yeah. Great, the great
great grandson of Bold Ruler who fathered Secretariat. So the
same same blood line as Secretariat, same family tree which
included included the famous horse War Admiral, a triple crown winner,

(32:17):
a man of war, A bunch of these great horses.
Right if you're how about the.

Speaker 8 (32:23):
Runner Walter, Get off my case.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
No, e, dog, I didn't give the punchline. Eat dog,
he didn't let me give the punchline. Let me give
the punch. Yeah, we're not a Chatlan who cares. No
one's listening look at the time. So so Zip, so
Zippy Chippy? Right? This horse again, same blood line as
Bold Ruler and Secretariat and a winner, the triple crown winner,
War Admiral. All these favorite, man, you're interrupting me again,

(32:50):
he dog, this is killing so let me pay it up.
So Zippy Chippy raised one hundred starts around New York
and in the Northeast and lost all one hundred races,
every did not win, did not win a single race.
The same bloodline as Secretariat and man O War. You

(33:15):
talk about being the ugly horse of the family. My god,
how great is that? That's I love that sight.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
Remember I told you I had ten jerseys from the uh,
from from my store that I used to work at.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, I remember that, yes, yesterday or two days ago, whatever.

Speaker 8 (33:29):
Yeah, you know what I had. Uh, I have a
Pete Rose jersey beyond Sandy Jersey.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Now a Halise time out which which Pete Pete Rose reds,
Pete Rose Phillies, Pete Rose expos Red Red.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
We worked to the store and we sold the Bo
Jackson jersey.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
And I had a friend. His name is Keith. He
was a great athlete back in the day, and he's
a Royals fan and he used to like George Brett
and he wore number five in Little League. So I
didn't want to brother them by the Bo Jackson jersey because.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Of am That's a great story. I gotta go. Thank you.
Make sure your girlfriend calls it. What's her name again?
Name is Bobby g al Right, Melissa and Bobby G.
So hopefully Melissa and Bobby G O cup. I gotta go,
but thank you you Jog. There you go. Listen Bobby G.
Wow great, I'm so glad He Dogg and Joe Dogg

(34:25):
found the show again. It's been many years. Time nowt
for the instant trivia of Mallard of the third degree.
Josh Allen of the Bills and Blank are the only
quarterbacks with multiple rushing touchdowns in multiple playoff games since
the merger. Again, Josh Allen and Bill of the Bills
and Blank the only quarterbacks with multiple rushing touchdowns in

(34:45):
multiple games since the merger. Fill in the blank the
answer next.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
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Allen of the Bills and Blank the only quarterbacks with
multiple rushing touchdowns in multiple playoff games since the merger.

(35:44):
That is the question. What is the answer? Ed Helms?
Who is fifty one today? Guess by Late Night drug
tester Rock Go bald Deli from mister nice guy. Who
else do we have? Page down? Can't read that? Bobby
Bow from Shane in Des Moines, Cam Newton. Guess by

(36:04):
Ike and Roseville, Minnesota.

Speaker 8 (36:06):
J P.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Lossman from Robin Minnesota, mister X. Unless it's not from
the iconic JT the Wingman Joe, name it from that
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(36:28):
Warren Moon Don Strock from James the Claw from Trucker
Joe gotta have a fall guy, Tony Sperano from Mark
in Santa Monica. Nick and Wisconsin got it right? What
say you, Lorreina? It is not Marilyn Manson. Guests by
listener Gil.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Great guest, Gil, I think it is Jake the Plumber, Ben.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Jake the Plumber? Is it Jake the Plumber?

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Wrong?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Now it is the late Great Air McNair. Steve McNair,
buy his mispit it's smeller. How about that?

Speaker 4 (37:06):
To the third degree?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
This is one big Ben gets grilled gool.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
There have apparently been a lot of Steelers fans suggesting
that the team should trade their best assets while they
still have high value. Former quarterback Ben Roethlisberger said on
a recent podcast that he thinks the team can trade
George Pickens, but that they should hold on to t. J.
Watt and Minka Fitzpatrick. Ben, do could you see any
of these three getting traded?

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Well, no, I take that back. George Pickens has caused
some problems there, so if it's as bad as the
Internet makes it out to be, and they do some
soul searching there in Pittsburgh, I could see Pickens being traded,
but the Steelers do not tear things down. It's a
bittersweet story in Pittsburgh. They want to be good. I
like that. They don't want to suck. Who wants to suck?

(37:53):
So I don't see them changing the franchise charter and
getting rid of all those Maybe George Pickens, but that's it.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Next, Notre Dame's d defensive coordinator Al Golden is heading
back to the NFL to be Cincinnati's new defensive coordinator.
Golden had previously been the Bengals linebacker coach in twenty
twenty twenty twenty one, Ben, do you think he can
turn around their atrocious defense?

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Well? Can he? Yes? Because the bar is low a right,
the bar is low. They were so bad, they were outplayed,
underachieved last year. If they go from terrible to average,
Al Golden scene is a mensa. So the bar is
not that high for Al gold So, but they're not
going to be a top ten defense, but they could

(38:33):
be a anywhere in like the middle part of the NFL.
They'll be in good shape next.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
A new report says that Luka Dohnsik is expected to
be back for the MAVs in mid February. They've gone
I think five and nine in his absence, Ben, do
you think they can still be in the hunt by
the time Luca comes back.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Well, yes, not the hunt to be like a top
team in the West.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
The playoffs.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Oh yeah, everyone gets in the play You realize how
hard because they have that Fugees playing thing. You realize
how hard it is to not make the playoffs in
the NBA. If you're trying, there are so many teams
that aren't trying. If you just put an honest effort in,
you'll end up getting at least in the playing So yeah,
they'll at least make the play in tournament. Not worried

(39:14):
about that. There it is mallet of a third degree.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
How did we do pass well?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I don't like your tone. I do not like your
tone too. That was bad tone. Bad tone.
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