July 10, 2017 • 37 mins
Doug argues that Rockets G James Harden's historic contract extension is why you get paid for your regular season performance, but legacies are made in the playoffs in the NBA. He talks about Mark Cuban's comments and why he needs to get realistic about the Mavericks and their ability to compete in the NBA Eastern Conference. Plus, Doug talks to Arizona Cardinals Head Coach Bruce Arians about being known as the NFL's "quarterback whisperer".
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This is the best of the Done Got Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio, Boom, What Up, Duck Got Leap Show,
Fox Sports Radio Live and Direct. Still in the Holy Land,
All Star Week is about to get underway as the
Home Run Derby, which is one of the most boring
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things I've ever been to in my life, and I've
been twice. I dig the long ball, you dig the
long ball. It is an incredibly, incredibly boring, boring display
of boorishness. Nonetheless, people are gonna watch Home Run Derby
is kind of like um and they keep changing it,
they keep evolving it. They try and speed along. It's
better on TV than it is in person. But even
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on TV it's like, how many ways can you possibly describe?
I mean, when Chris Berman did it, it it was annoying,
but I mean, how many ways can you possibly describe
a home run? Seriously? Still, I want to see Aaron
Judge now far and hard he hits a baseball? Who
doesn't uh. The starting pictures have been announced for the
All Star Game. Max Chaz who has the lowest whip
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who has lost whip in the National League. Of course,
He's won a cy Young Award in the National and
American League. Uh, so he narrowly beats out. You know,
Clayton Kershaw obviously could have been a starter. Kershaw with
a point eight eight whip shars with a point seven
eight whip Sherzer has a slightly lower e r A
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although he has fewer wins. And this of course means
a couple of things. One, it's about reputation, but also
it just it shows and the Clayton Kershaw has been great.
I'm not here to tell you Kershaw hasn't been great,
and that Kershaw wouldn't have a have a fighting chance
at a Cy Young Award UM if it was if
it were announced today. But it also shows that we
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don't solely pay attention to wins and losses. Is uh
Kershaw is fourteen and two and Erzer is ten and five.
Chris Sale also the lowest whip in the American League.
That helps his cause, whereas Jason Vargas actually has the
lowest e r a UM and Jason Vargas has also
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has more wins on the year, and he's playing with
an inferior team in the Kansas City Royals. And yet
Chris Sale gets to start second consecutive year, second consecutive
year that Chris Tale gets to start for the American
League with a this time with a different team. That's
you know, last year, White Sox, this year with the
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Red Sox. I continue to not understand why every team
needs an All Star. Don't get it, not every We
don't need participation trophies for twenty five year olds, we
just don't. We don't need participation trophies for cities that
already know they suck at baseball. Hey, we suck at baseball.
Thanks for pointing out the fact that we couldn't find
anybody good enough to be considered a real All Star,
so you added a middle relief pitcher. Nonetheless, it's in Miami,
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which uh is an organization that they had John Carlos Stanton,
and they have a cool stadium, and it's in Miami
in the summer indoors. It's just it's one of those
things where baseball times can't get out of its own way.
It just can't. And look baseball regionally very healthy on television,
Baseball attendants wise, pretty darnhealthy. Baseball is gonna have a
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spectacular spectacularly for them for them, I'm not saying it's
gonna be Super Bowl, and you're probably not gonna get
the same push from the Cubs Cubs fans, unless course
the Cubs go on a run. But like, look, if
the Cubs can turn this thing around, which I do
think at some point, talent, UH cream rises to top.
I mean, but they have a worse run differential than
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the St. Louis Cardinals, for example. It's crazy then the
Texas Rangers, and they have the Chicago Cubs have scored
the exact same number of runs as they have given up.
And we are eight eight games in the season. That
is bizarre how bad they've been. But there's tons of
in fighting, an ego and immaturity in that uh in
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that locker room, and that's the only possible explanation for
why they've been so very average, and it's subpar considering
their talent. But look, baseball is gonna have the Red Sox,
the Yankees, um the Astros, which the Astros don't have
a vibrant fan base. Union of the Astros are sixty
and a half games up, I mean sixty a half
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games up at at the All Star break. The Nationals,
probably the Cubs and the Dodgers, like all the major markets,
all big name teams, big name players are going to
be playing in postseason. It's going to be four baseball
a very well watched UM postseason. But like of the
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of the times that you want to be in Miami,
this is quite possibly the last outside of hurricane season.
There is no time you'd less want to be in
Miami and then right now, right then, right now. And
I get it. It's a reward for building a new
stadium that people still don't go to because the team
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is not any good, but Miami in the summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh.
Rob Manfred had this to say about the fact that
more home runs are being hit now than while ever
in baseball. I think the sport goes through cycles. You know,
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sometimes pitchings dominant, UM, sometimes hitters are more dominant. We
have seen a change in the way that the game
is taught at the youth level, UM, A change in
approach at the major league level. Way more analytics, way,
more tolerance of plays like strikeouts that people didn't you still,
less interest in the stolen base. You know, all these
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analytics and as a result, the games being played a
little different. UM. I will say, our research shows are
fans like home runs? Yeah? Which is why they change
the strike zone. Like our our players are players, UM
are many of them changing the trend of hitting on
the top half of the baseball and hitting middle or
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even lower half of the baseball. It's baseball players say
their money in the air, not in the ground. Yeah,
there's a little bit of that, but it also helps
home run hitters when they don't have nearly as big
as zone up or down to be called a strike.
Pitchers are throwing harder than they've ever thrown, so the
ball should if the contacts made go further. I do
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think that weight training UM, and offseason training and swing
development UM. I think all of these things are important.
But Rob Banfred could at least be honest, and it's
like it would be like if Adam Silver didn't at
least tip the cap to the fact that, hey, ten
years ago, we changed the way we called the game,
and because of it, now we have all these three
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point shots, which artificially increases some of the stats and
many of the final scores. It's the same thing in baseball.
It changed the way the strike zone is called. It
changed the way the strike zone is called. So if
the strike zone is smaller, you have to think there's
less to see, less spots to see, and you can
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sit back wait for your pitch. And if you don't
think that that's a reality, well then why did they
change the strike zone to begin with? And why has
there been such results? Right? The control group has been
the last ten years since they've taken steroids out of baseball,
to which home runs have been an all time low.
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They changed the strike zone and all of the sudden,
now it's the influx of the new hitting style in
Little League Baseball. Like stop it that was born at night,
not last night? All right, Bruce Arians going to join
the show upcoming in uh seven or eight minutes. I
want to ask him about the idea of having Larry
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Fitzgerald back, even though Larry Fitzgerald thought at least to
some level about retirement. And we gotta ask him at
Carson Palmer, how much does he have left in the tank?
How affected was he by the playoffs two years ago?
We'll ask Bruce Arians in a moment. I want to
get to this. Over the weekend, James Harden agreed to
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the largest extension in the history of the NBA, which
will pay him forty seven million dollars a year now.
On on one hand, this does help with the argument,
which is the opposite of many arguments people have made,
and it's accurate. You get paid for the regular season.
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Like people want to ask, well, why don't NFL players
strike they deserve more money. Well, there's more NFL players.
They play a sport to which they're more likely to
be injured, so there's a less likelihood that they'll play
every game or play for three, four or five year
guaranteed contracts. And oh yeah, by the way, they only
play sixteen games. Why do Major Ague baseball players why
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why is Bryce Hartberg Gonnas signed for four hundred million
dollars or somewhere in the neighborhood of because in addition
to inflation and addition to the market and what he
can do with the baseball and that he's an everyday player.
If Bryce Harper plays a hundred and fifty games, it's
the amount of appearances he makes. Like basketball players and
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football players and baseball players are no different than musicians
these days. Musicians don't make money. They can make a
little bit of money off downloads. They make money based
upon how many concerts they do, Like why do these
groups keep touring because that's where the money is. They
don't love you Cleveland. They love the fact that the
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more shows they do with the lower overhead, they have
more money they make. That's why they love you Cleveland.
Without your clevelood, you're in Columbus anyway. So look, you
get paid for the regular season. Your legacy is based
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upon the postseason, which tells you all you need to
know about James Harden. Sure he welcomed and Chris Paul.
They're trying to get Karmelo Anthony that team. It's all
seems like a short term not a long term solution.
Because while James Harden, based upon the salary cap, the
collective Barton Agreement and where he is in his contract,
is entitled to the largest increase in the history of
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the NBA by letter of the law, he is entitled
to it, but isn't. Didn't James Harden struggle in the playoffs?
Like look, he was bad in the playoffs in two
deciding games when the San Antonio Spurs didn't have Tony
Parker who blew is out his quadriceps tendon, and didn't
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have Kauahi Leonard. Remember then Quinler didn't even play and
they lost at home to the San Antonio Spurs. And
the argument we heard that James Hardney's help, Well, I
don't know if there's a salary cap which at some
point becomes a fixed number to which you can go over.
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But you you have you can spend within kind of
the confines of and you have one guy taking up
forty seven million dollars of that cap. And I know
they got Chris Paul, and I know they'll probably get
Carmelo Anthony on the chief that's their hope. But they'll
trade away or whatever. Isn't that prohibitive from Doesn't that
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prohibit you from getting the type of well rounded cast
it's gonna take to actually beat the Golden State Warriors,
the Cleveland Cavaliers or any of these other teams. The answer,
of course, is yes, which tells you that James Harden
cares not about his legacy. He cares about his regular season,
should have won the m v P one of the
past three years, and how much money he makes. But
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don't ever tell me it's about winning when you take
all that money. Be sure to catch live editions of
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Eastern noon to Ciffic on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Bruce arians joined us. The book
is the Quarterback Whisperer. Bruce, How are you? I'm doing great?
How you guys doing good? Man? Um, Let's let's let's
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start with the book. You've worked with some of the best,
obviously Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer, more recently Peyton Manning Andrew Luck.
What is it in your mind from somebody who works
with these men on a daily basis and helps mold them.
What is it that allows them to succeed? Because there's
other quarterbacks that have the tangible goods, have the arm, strength,
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have the feet, have some of the vision. What is
it that that separates the guys that make it, that
do it, from the guys that can't. Well, each one
of those guys is different, but there's one common thread,
and that's the great that uh that they refused to
lose type of any I don't care what sport they're playing,
if it's golf, tennis, ping pong, whatever, they're gonna will
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there on everybody on their team to win, and they
just hate losing. You mentioned they're all different, all right,
So I'll say I'll say one of their names. You
give me one kind of bullet point on what separates
them Big Ben, Oh, Superman, He's he's got a kate,
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you know, he's he never thinks there's a play that's dead,
and it never is because he bounces off people. He
does things that no one else can do. I mean,
that's Superman. He makes more touchdowns on broken plays. Uh,
he'll kill you on the on the regular design play,
but he really kills you on the broken place. Andrew
Luck all the all of the he's he's all, he's
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all the others and one um having had Manny Roethlisberger, Uh,
Tim Couch and those guys, but he's all of those
guys in one um. Brilliant, brilliant young man. What about
what about Peyton? I mean Peyton is so accomplished, and
yet there were the postseason feelings of the team. Um,
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what you when you're when you're sitting there and you're
watching tape and you're talking to Peyton Manning. What was
the one thing that was different about Peyton Manning from
anybody else? Well? His I called him the Piranha because
he could just eat up so much information and and
desire to have all this information. Uh, most guys that
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would have been paralysis. Through analysis, he got better with
more and more information, um than anybody else could handle.
All right, you're you're now working Obviously with Carson Palmer.
Big year for him is salary dips, so it feel
feels like either he stays and keeps playing or maybe
retires for for a second time. Uh. He had arguably
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his best season as a pro with you a couple
of years ago. Obviously had some really good years in
in Cincinnati previous to that. What about Carson Palmer is
different from the rest of the Star quarter actually work
with the work ethic. I mean he truly he works,
sometimes works too hard. I think he overworked last summer
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and came into camp with a little bit of a
sore arm. And then we we found out later that
a better work regimen for him. And then this spring
um holding him out a little bit. But um workaholic,
I mean weight room studying. Uh loves virtual reality now
and uses it tremendously. Bruce Arians joins us. The Quarterback
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Whisper is the book. You can pick it up. Stud
gotlip show Fox Sports Radio. I mentioned it's a big year,
yet a lot of turnover on the defensive side of
the ball, losing four starters. UM, Larry Fitzgerald at least
on some level, thought about walking away as a free
agent at the end of this season. How important do
you think success the playoffs is? Um, It's important every year,
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but how important is it specifically this year? To your team?
Every year? And we have when we have one goal,
let's to win the Super Bowl. We got to get
into the playoffs first and hopefully win our division. I
mean those are goals that we set every year and
then we put them the side and we start going
to work every day and accomplished the things that we
want to accomplish in that practice every day. But I
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love this football team. I thought the additions were much
better than the subtractions on defense and offensively we've got
everybody healthy and uh um John Brown looks to be
healthy again, which would be huge force. But defensively Carlos
Dansby and Antoine but they were great additions to our
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to our team. Uh. And the draft. Robert Candici is
healthy now after his rookie year. I had at High
Anchle spring a year, so I really like where defense
is all right. I want to get back to this
book really quickly. Um, the book is not just quarterbackwards,
but how to build an elite NFL quarterback. Bruce, I'm
a I'm a father of an eight year old boy, right.
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I got no idea how big he's gonna be, but
he's got a good arm. But the question that all
of us parents ask ourselves is when do we do
we specialize? And you're a guy who watches and molds
and coaches elite NFL quarterbacks. If you could advise a
father of a burgeoning quarterback, would you tell them to
focus on just being a quarterback? And if so, at
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what age? No, I would play all sports. I don't
like specialization. I think, uh, athletes, um have to be
I have to play two or three different sports to
become a real good athlete and train all the muscles
in your body to become a great athlete. I don't
think you can do that through weightlifting and things, especially
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at nine, ten, eleven, twelve years old. You gotta play
every sport and become a leader. I mean, your ship
is probably the number one thing, and playing quarterback throwing
the football is probably a second. So. Um, But to me,
I'm not one of these guys that, hey, ten ten
years old. Do you only play baseball? Are you only
play football? You go to these camps. To me, you're
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depriving that guy from becoming a truly rounded at late Um. Okay,
so leadership is number one, throwing a football is number
is number two. Um. Look, you have in southern California,
you have to elite quarterbacks. But they're both very young,
al right. You have Josh Rosen and Sam Donald. Donald
is just a red shirt freshman, did not start all
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of last year. What about the idea of of when
you come out of college and not you can't I
know you can't talk about these players specifically, But for
somebody who has helped so many achieved so much in
the NFL, how much how many games do they need
to play? How many years they need to play in
college as a starter before they have at least some
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sort of database and then step into a completely more
difficult uh sport in the National Football League. Well, yeah,
I'd like to see guys stay three years, but um,
each one so individually front um, their family situations, whatever
it is. As far as they're going to draft at
any position, but at quarterback, I think you need to
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play at least three years. And you know, if you're
twenty and you're stepping in a huddle a thirty two
year old lineman four kids, I don't know how good
a leader you're gonna be yet, you know you better
be damn sure you know everything you know about your offense.
Uh if one of these guys asked you a question. So, Uh,
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it's a little bit different from being the stud in
college and stepping into a huddle at the NFL with
guys ten and twelve years older than you who have
been doing it for a long time and their feeding
families and you're the guy that's gonna put bread on
their table? Do you know right away? Like, can you
watch a guy play even in his first year and
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saying he ain't got it or he's got it before
anybody if you watch him play in the NFL, can
you tell? Or can they evolve over time? Tell me
how your brain works. I think they can evolve. Yes,
So much of it depends on the team that they
get on and the culture of that locker room. Um,
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you know, if you're the number one pick, you're going
probably the worst team in the league unless somebody traded
up for you. Then you got really lucky. Uh So,
you know, I look back at Timmy Couch and David Carr,
two guys I thought were tremendous, got put on expansion
teams and just got broken up. I coached Tim Couch.
He was a hell of a player. No way, in
any way was he ever a bust. He had broken up.
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Last time the Browns went to the playoffs, Tim Couch
took him and then broke his leg in the last game.
But it's your, it's your. Football is the greatest game
because there's twenty two guys. You know, everybody says this
quarterback is not great. He doesn't have that many Super
Bowl wins, but he might not have a defense. Uh So,
there's so many romps, there's so many variables in the winning,
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not necessarily playing great quarterback. Well, it's a great, great
point about Tim Couch. Point about David Carr, of course,
was you know sact. It seemed like a thousand times
during that expansion year and they lost. Course, Tony Boselli
never played from the first pick of the expansion draft.
Could have protected him. Hey, Bruce, it's a great book.
You can get it on Amazon wherever books are are
are soul the quarterback whisper how to build an elite
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NFL quarterback from a guy who has done it and
continues to do it in the desert. He's Bruce Arians,
the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. B A, thanks
so much for joining us in the Doug Outlip Show.
Thank you all the best. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three
pm Easter noon Pacific. The Nixon David Griffin, Like David
Griffin comes from Cleveland where he did not have complete
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and autonomous power. Right he had the owner who was
who had power. You had Lebron James who had power,
and you had David Griffin, who has left to kind
of clean up the mess. And even in cleaning up
the mess, it's like, Okay, we want you to sign
Tristan Thompson. Great. I think he's worth X. They think
he's worth Why who's the rap by Rich Paul? Who's
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Rich Paul's best friend Lebron James. Lebron James wants him signed?
The boy right? I mean j R. Smith is a
free agent. Last year they overpaid. So the point is this,
like he didn't get them. Lebron, he didn't get them, Kyrie,
he did the best he could. But he carries the
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I'm gonna say bias. He carries the He has a
history of dealing with an owner who meddled and didn't
get along with the star who meddled, and an agent
who reps your star and reps several of the other players,
which puts use It in in a completely uncomfortable situation
of trying to kind of pacify the world's greatest player
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and satisfy the owner who's your boss, and try and
build a great team, right, Like that's really hard to do,
isn't it. They're like, oh, I never really thought of
it that way. And then you have the New York Knicks, who,
as much as you can say like, hey, look you're
in the York Kicks. You don't know what you're doing.
Just turn the thing over to David Griffin and be
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done with it. Well, what got the Knicks in this
in this predicament from their perspective to begin with, Phil
Jackson had complete and autonomous power, total power. And so
when you when you walk into a place to which
you're like, you know what, I really want to have
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final say on roster on salary cap. Those don't sound
like unreasonable expectations. But if you're the New York Knicks,
you're like, look, we just gave Phil Jackson, who want
eleven NBA championships, complete for him to hire who he wanted,
top down coach, general manager, vice president, scouts, do whatever
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the hell you want. Just take the Knicks and here's
the money, and go win. And it didn't work. And
so David Griffin's what what most most of American reacts like, Oh,
the next really screwed up a different and maybe they did,
maybe they did, or maybe they just um, maybe they
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just uh are trying to not make the same mistake twice,
And David Griffin is trying to not take the same
job twice. It's possible, right, I mean, look what happens
in coaching, right, All coaches are all coaching? Have you
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hire the opposite of the guy who was there before.
If you have an offensive guy, you are a defensive guy.
If you have a young coach, the next coach is
an old coach. If you have a disciplinarian, next guych
is like a But when you're successful, you find your types, right,
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You find your types. And I think David Griffin believes
he knows what his type is and the Nicks are
they're so bewildered by the fact that they've had from
Larry Brown and Isaiah Thomas and and Donnie Um, Donnie
Walsh and all these different people come in and not
able to turn the thing around. They're like, look, last
time we gave Footville Jackson total power, why would we
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give David Griffin total power? He didn't even have that
in Cleveland. It's not as crazy you would think. The
problem is if he doesn't have power, who does? Who does?
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I get compared with people all the time. I actually
think this is funny. So I've heard people they're like, well,
you know your your shell. You're like, you think, what
do you think you'd Kell and Calherd like, well, I
actually don't think I'm calling My style is different than Collins.
But if you're gonna compare me to somebody who I
think has probably the best national sports radio show in
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the country, then thank you very much, right, or like
you know, you think they're trying to be clever with
your interviews, like what do you think you're Dan Patrick? Like,
you know what if I could be Dan Patrick, that's
cool with me, and that's cool with me. I mean,
people compare me all the time music. You know, they're
like I was walking down street and drew something like
is that George Clooney? No, that's Doug God. There. It
happens quite often you couldn't pick someone at least remotely close,
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like you had to go George Clooney. Um, I've gotten well.
When Aaron Rodgers was drafted, Aaron Watcher was drafted, everybody
said we looked alike. Now Aaron Rodgers um has has
surpassed me. Money has been good, his hair is better
than mine as well. And we've hung out once or
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twice and nobody thought we'd looked alike. When we do,
we look like we could be maybe brothers from other
mothers that we could maybe be brothers, but more probably
more cousins than any just we're two white guys. He's
a little bit taller. Uh, you know, he has a
slightly better arm than I have. That's about it. Anyway,
I've heard Daron Rodgers when I was a kid who
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was a kid who played Josh Basking and uh Big,
you rather only Big rons Prime? Yes, okay, the kid
the kid in Big that was um, that was that
was what people said I look like. So anyway, I
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bring that up because you know, like comparing incomparables me
and George Clooney is a lot like what Damian Harrison
did on Good Morning Football. Take a listen. When you
look at Eli, it's kind of like when you look
at Lebron. I'm not saying that the same, but look
at Eli's numbers. Any other quarterback would have those numbers.
It would be an amazing year, but it would be
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a Eli. Nobody is respecting it as much as would
do Lebron, Lebron and every thirty assist and he didn't
do nothing. Yeah, So what he's saying is like, you're
gonna miss me when I'm gone, Right, You're gonna You're
gonna miss You're gonna miss old Eli when he's gone.
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You don't appreciate how good Eli Manning has been, which
I do think there's some there's there, there's something to that.
I also think that there's the truth about Eli is
he's good, has he's never been the best quarterback in
the National Football Lake. There's not anybody I know who
could make the argument of, you know, Eli Manning is
the best quarterback inn Like, nobody makes that argument. It
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does not actually exist. So that's kind of the first thing.
The second thing is, um, I think there is a
parallel there in some of the that He's had bad lines,
he's had bad schemes, he's had wide receivers to get hurt,
had drops, he's had bad defenses, He's had the things.
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But the difference is that that Lebron statistically has produced
at a greater level than Eli Manning has, and Lebron hasn't.
Remember you go back to to you a couple years
ago when Tom Coughlin got fired, it was Eli Manning,
who ah, who screwed up a couple of the games late,
especially the Dallas Cowboys game late, and that's why they lost.
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So I just I think it's too much of reach.
I understand what Damien Harrison saying. He's like, look, he's
really really good, and Lebron James is great, and Lebron
James gets taken for granted, Eli Mannings maybe not Lebron James,
but he's still a great player, and he gets taken
for granted. I think sometimes great players get taken for
vanned instead. There's the comparison there. Like you mentioned Lebron,
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I don't know. I don't know. I have never ever
won snore. Do I know anybody alive who has said,
you know who? You know who Eli Manning or finds
me of he reminds me of? You know, he reminds
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me of Lebron James, and then does never happen, not
one time, not a single solitary time. Be sure to
catch live editions of the Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays
at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Alex Rodriguez was on
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with Colin With with Colin Coward right and a Rod
live from the All Star Game, and Alex had this
to say about who Aaron Judge reminds him of. Here's
a guy, Colin that I'm so excited for. For the
first time in a long time, we have a Lebron
James type of personality and size that can transcend sports.
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Here's a guy who's six ft seven two and seventy
five pounds nine body fat, thirty two in vertical. The
guy bench presses four pounds, squats five pounds, and and
he's he's an amazing figure. Mean, and for the next
generation to say, well, there's a guy that could be
a tight end and an All Pro and he chose baseball,
Why can't I? And hopefully the kids are taking notes
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of Aaron Judge. I mean, I what this says to me,
This is one of it's one of the things that
says to me that I do think that dominant athletes
can dominate baseball. I've always thought that that one of
the reasons that steroids like Barry Bonds was a dominant
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athlete who took who took steroids, and that's why he
went from an m v P and a Hall of
Famer to the greatest home run here we had ever
seen late in his career. And and one of the
things that probably lad that people said lad Barry Bonds
to doing this was look what Sammy so said Mark mcguires,
especially Sammy Sosa, who was a middling player and became
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a great home run hitter. The point is that a
lot of baseball players are just baseball players and aren't
big enough, aren't strong enough, aren't let it annount. If
you put a legit dude out there, like Aaron Judge,
legit dude who could play at least two sports, look
at how he dominates. This also helps my argument about soccer, right,
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not that Aaron Judge could play soccer, but the argument
about baseball. Like if you're Microt's great athlete, Bryce Harper
is a great athlete, like those guys great athletes that
in other sports that are also really good that have
become great baseball players. It's the same thing about soccer.
We will as a country when our athletic aeron judges right,
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when our defensive backs wide receivers when they play soccer,
that's when we'll take that next step. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays
at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. Mark Mark Cuban was
on NBA TV broadcast and among the things he said, huh.
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Among the things he said, among the things he's said
were that if they were in the Eastern Conference, they
wouldn't be rebuilding, you know. Uh. Cuban also said about
Um that when they drafted Dennis Smith, he spoke to
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him about combing through an archive of Dennis Smith's tweets.
He said, quote, you know, one of the first things
after we drafted Dennis and I'm talking to him on
the phone, I'm like, dude, I went through your Twitter account.
It's time to get on their and delete. And so
he went through it, and to his credit, hey, there
they were gone. He had a lot of stupid stuff
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out there. Um, the most notable one was when he
was fourteen years old. It was pretty funny. It was
pretty funny. But the biggest part that he said was
that that the Warriors were the reason for the MAVs
to rebuild, and that if they were in the Eastern Conference,
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it would be completely different. And while there's some validity
to the fact that the Warriors are so good, so good,
we're rebuilding, right, he said, there's no question about it.
If we were in the East, we would not be rebuilding.
We'd be handling things completely different. I think I'm going
to kidnap at him silver and not let him out
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until he moves us to the Eastern Conference. Giving where
we are, given where the Warriors are, what's happening in
the Western Conference, it's kind of sealed what we have
to look The Dallas Mavericks are coming off a thirty
three and forty nine season, and he admitted to me
months ago. He admitted to Dan Patrick on his show
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that they wanted to lose games they played young players.
But let's not act like they were really really close
before they started having injuries and decided to dump the season.
Let's not act like last year they were close. Dirk
Novitski has taken less than they've tried to surround him
with more. But none of the pieces have ever worked out,
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and they haven't gotten out in the first round. They
haven't been players in this thing. They just haven't. And
they're not players in the Eastern Conference, they're not players
in the Western Conference. I love Dirk Navitzi. I love him.
Who doesn't like Dirk? Like he's one of the most
likable superstars in the history of the NBA, no question
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about um. But Dirk Navitski was born two years after me.
That makes him thirty nine years old. Like he's over
the hill. It takes him two hours of physical therapy
just to get him ready to play every night. And
I even play every night. You know, he's been doing
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a long long time. But like you ever four TDA
game last year playing twenty six minute it's um and
he played in fifty four games. So Cuban can just
can say all he wants. Hey, if we were in
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the Eastern Conference, we're If you're in the Eastern Conference,
you would suck in the Eastern Conference, just like you
suck in the Western Conference. Mark Cuban is a lot
of things, but because of how they've rebuilt, he took
a lot of chances. He got Wes Matthews, who was
straight off, and Achilles Tenant tear. They went and they
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tried to get Darren Williams. Oh, you know what Darren
wi is We can fix Darren Williams ankles. Well, guess
what Darren Williams is over the hill. Harrison Barnes is.
I think Harrison Barnes is one of those guys that
went from overpaid to probably maybe a little bit underrated.
He's a good player, But West Matthews often Achilles Dirk
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Navitsky who's thirty nine years old, and Harrison Oranges, who
on a great team is a really good fifth starter,
is considered probably their best player. Like, it doesn't matter
what division you're in, you weren't going to win
This is the best of the Done Got Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio, Boom, What Up, Duck Got Leap Show,
Fox Sports Radio Live and Direct. Still in the Holy Land,
All Star Week is about to get underway as the
Home Run Derby, which is one of the most boring
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things I've ever been to in my life, and I've
been twice. I dig the long ball, you dig the
long ball. It is an incredibly, incredibly boring, boring display
of boorishness. Nonetheless, people are gonna watch Home Run Derby
is kind of like um and they keep changing it,
they keep evolving it. They try and speed along. It's
better on TV than it is in person. But even
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on TV it's like, how many ways can you possibly describe?
I mean, when Chris Berman did it, it it was annoying,
but I mean, how many ways can you possibly describe
a home run? Seriously? Still, I want to see Aaron
Judge now far and hard he hits a baseball? Who
doesn't uh. The starting pictures have been announced for the
All Star Game. Max Chaz who has the lowest whip
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who has lost whip in the National League. Of course,
He's won a cy Young Award in the National and
American League. Uh, so he narrowly beats out. You know,
Clayton Kershaw obviously could have been a starter. Kershaw with
a point eight eight whip shars with a point seven
eight whip Sherzer has a slightly lower e r A
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although he has fewer wins. And this of course means
a couple of things. One, it's about reputation, but also
it just it shows and the Clayton Kershaw has been great.
I'm not here to tell you Kershaw hasn't been great,
and that Kershaw wouldn't have a have a fighting chance
at a Cy Young Award UM if it was if
it were announced today. But it also shows that we
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don't solely pay attention to wins and losses. Is uh
Kershaw is fourteen and two and Erzer is ten and five.
Chris Sale also the lowest whip in the American League.
That helps his cause, whereas Jason Vargas actually has the
lowest e r a UM and Jason Vargas has also
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has more wins on the year, and he's playing with
an inferior team in the Kansas City Royals. And yet
Chris Sale gets to start second consecutive year, second consecutive
year that Chris Tale gets to start for the American
League with a this time with a different team. That's
you know, last year, White Sox, this year with the
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Red Sox. I continue to not understand why every team
needs an All Star. Don't get it, not every We
don't need participation trophies for twenty five year olds, we
just don't. We don't need participation trophies for cities that
already know they suck at baseball. Hey, we suck at baseball.
Thanks for pointing out the fact that we couldn't find
anybody good enough to be considered a real All Star,
so you added a middle relief pitcher. Nonetheless, it's in Miami,
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which uh is an organization that they had John Carlos Stanton,
and they have a cool stadium, and it's in Miami
in the summer indoors. It's just it's one of those
things where baseball times can't get out of its own way.
It just can't. And look baseball regionally very healthy on television,
Baseball attendants wise, pretty darnhealthy. Baseball is gonna have a
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spectacular spectacularly for them for them, I'm not saying it's
gonna be Super Bowl, and you're probably not gonna get
the same push from the Cubs Cubs fans, unless course
the Cubs go on a run. But like, look, if
the Cubs can turn this thing around, which I do
think at some point, talent, UH cream rises to top.
I mean, but they have a worse run differential than
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the St. Louis Cardinals, for example. It's crazy then the
Texas Rangers, and they have the Chicago Cubs have scored
the exact same number of runs as they have given up.
And we are eight eight games in the season. That
is bizarre how bad they've been. But there's tons of
in fighting, an ego and immaturity in that uh in
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that locker room, and that's the only possible explanation for
why they've been so very average, and it's subpar considering
their talent. But look, baseball is gonna have the Red Sox,
the Yankees, um the Astros, which the Astros don't have
a vibrant fan base. Union of the Astros are sixty
and a half games up, I mean sixty a half
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games up at at the All Star break. The Nationals,
probably the Cubs and the Dodgers, like all the major markets,
all big name teams, big name players are going to
be playing in postseason. It's going to be four baseball
a very well watched UM postseason. But like of the
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of the times that you want to be in Miami,
this is quite possibly the last outside of hurricane season.
There is no time you'd less want to be in
Miami and then right now, right then, right now. And
I get it. It's a reward for building a new
stadium that people still don't go to because the team
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is not any good, but Miami in the summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh.
Rob Manfred had this to say about the fact that
more home runs are being hit now than while ever
in baseball. I think the sport goes through cycles. You know,
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sometimes pitchings dominant, UM, sometimes hitters are more dominant. We
have seen a change in the way that the game
is taught at the youth level, UM, A change in
approach at the major league level. Way more analytics, way,
more tolerance of plays like strikeouts that people didn't you still,
less interest in the stolen base. You know, all these
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analytics and as a result, the games being played a
little different. UM. I will say, our research shows are
fans like home runs? Yeah? Which is why they change
the strike zone. Like our our players are players, UM
are many of them changing the trend of hitting on
the top half of the baseball and hitting middle or
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even lower half of the baseball. It's baseball players say
their money in the air, not in the ground. Yeah,
there's a little bit of that, but it also helps
home run hitters when they don't have nearly as big
as zone up or down to be called a strike.
Pitchers are throwing harder than they've ever thrown, so the
ball should if the contacts made go further. I do
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think that weight training UM, and offseason training and swing
development UM. I think all of these things are important.
But Rob Banfred could at least be honest, and it's
like it would be like if Adam Silver didn't at
least tip the cap to the fact that, hey, ten
years ago, we changed the way we called the game,
and because of it, now we have all these three
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point shots, which artificially increases some of the stats and
many of the final scores. It's the same thing in baseball.
It changed the way the strike zone is called. It
changed the way the strike zone is called. So if
the strike zone is smaller, you have to think there's
less to see, less spots to see, and you can
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sit back wait for your pitch. And if you don't
think that that's a reality, well then why did they
change the strike zone to begin with? And why has
there been such results? Right? The control group has been
the last ten years since they've taken steroids out of baseball,
to which home runs have been an all time low.
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They changed the strike zone and all of the sudden,
now it's the influx of the new hitting style in
Little League Baseball. Like stop it that was born at night,
not last night? All right, Bruce Arians going to join
the show upcoming in uh seven or eight minutes. I
want to ask him about the idea of having Larry
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Fitzgerald back, even though Larry Fitzgerald thought at least to
some level about retirement. And we gotta ask him at
Carson Palmer, how much does he have left in the tank?
How affected was he by the playoffs two years ago?
We'll ask Bruce Arians in a moment. I want to
get to this. Over the weekend, James Harden agreed to
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the largest extension in the history of the NBA, which
will pay him forty seven million dollars a year now.
On on one hand, this does help with the argument,
which is the opposite of many arguments people have made,
and it's accurate. You get paid for the regular season.
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Like people want to ask, well, why don't NFL players
strike they deserve more money. Well, there's more NFL players.
They play a sport to which they're more likely to
be injured, so there's a less likelihood that they'll play
every game or play for three, four or five year
guaranteed contracts. And oh yeah, by the way, they only
play sixteen games. Why do Major Ague baseball players why
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why is Bryce Hartberg Gonnas signed for four hundred million
dollars or somewhere in the neighborhood of because in addition
to inflation and addition to the market and what he
can do with the baseball and that he's an everyday player.
If Bryce Harper plays a hundred and fifty games, it's
the amount of appearances he makes. Like basketball players and
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football players and baseball players are no different than musicians
these days. Musicians don't make money. They can make a
little bit of money off downloads. They make money based
upon how many concerts they do, Like why do these
groups keep touring because that's where the money is. They
don't love you Cleveland. They love the fact that the
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more shows they do with the lower overhead, they have
more money they make. That's why they love you Cleveland.
Without your clevelood, you're in Columbus anyway. So look, you
get paid for the regular season. Your legacy is based
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upon the postseason, which tells you all you need to
know about James Harden. Sure he welcomed and Chris Paul.
They're trying to get Karmelo Anthony that team. It's all
seems like a short term not a long term solution.
Because while James Harden, based upon the salary cap, the
collective Barton Agreement and where he is in his contract,
is entitled to the largest increase in the history of
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the NBA by letter of the law, he is entitled
to it, but isn't. Didn't James Harden struggle in the playoffs?
Like look, he was bad in the playoffs in two
deciding games when the San Antonio Spurs didn't have Tony
Parker who blew is out his quadriceps tendon, and didn't
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have Kauahi Leonard. Remember then Quinler didn't even play and
they lost at home to the San Antonio Spurs. And
the argument we heard that James Hardney's help, Well, I
don't know if there's a salary cap which at some
point becomes a fixed number to which you can go over.
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But you you have you can spend within kind of
the confines of and you have one guy taking up
forty seven million dollars of that cap. And I know
they got Chris Paul, and I know they'll probably get
Carmelo Anthony on the chief that's their hope. But they'll
trade away or whatever. Isn't that prohibitive from Doesn't that
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prohibit you from getting the type of well rounded cast
it's gonna take to actually beat the Golden State Warriors,
the Cleveland Cavaliers or any of these other teams. The answer,
of course, is yes, which tells you that James Harden
cares not about his legacy. He cares about his regular season,
should have won the m v P one of the
past three years, and how much money he makes. But
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don't ever tell me it's about winning when you take
all that money. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at three p m.
Eastern noon to Ciffic on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Bruce arians joined us. The book
is the Quarterback Whisperer. Bruce, How are you? I'm doing great?
How you guys doing good? Man? Um, Let's let's let's
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start with the book. You've worked with some of the best,
obviously Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer, more recently Peyton Manning Andrew Luck.
What is it in your mind from somebody who works
with these men on a daily basis and helps mold them.
What is it that allows them to succeed? Because there's
other quarterbacks that have the tangible goods, have the arm, strength,
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have the feet, have some of the vision. What is
it that that separates the guys that make it, that
do it, from the guys that can't. Well, each one
of those guys is different, but there's one common thread,
and that's the great that uh that they refused to
lose type of any I don't care what sport they're playing,
if it's golf, tennis, ping pong, whatever, they're gonna will
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there on everybody on their team to win, and they
just hate losing. You mentioned they're all different, all right,
So I'll say I'll say one of their names. You
give me one kind of bullet point on what separates
them Big Ben, Oh, Superman, He's he's got a kate,
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you know, he's he never thinks there's a play that's dead,
and it never is because he bounces off people. He
does things that no one else can do. I mean,
that's Superman. He makes more touchdowns on broken plays. Uh,
he'll kill you on the on the regular design play,
but he really kills you on the broken place. Andrew
Luck all the all of the he's he's all, he's
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all the others and one um having had Manny Roethlisberger, Uh,
Tim Couch and those guys, but he's all of those
guys in one um. Brilliant, brilliant young man. What about
what about Peyton? I mean Peyton is so accomplished, and
yet there were the postseason feelings of the team. Um,
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what you when you're when you're sitting there and you're
watching tape and you're talking to Peyton Manning. What was
the one thing that was different about Peyton Manning from
anybody else? Well? His I called him the Piranha because
he could just eat up so much information and and
desire to have all this information. Uh, most guys that
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would have been paralysis. Through analysis, he got better with
more and more information, um than anybody else could handle.
All right, you're you're now working Obviously with Carson Palmer.
Big year for him is salary dips, so it feel
feels like either he stays and keeps playing or maybe
retires for for a second time. Uh. He had arguably
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his best season as a pro with you a couple
of years ago. Obviously had some really good years in
in Cincinnati previous to that. What about Carson Palmer is
different from the rest of the Star quarter actually work
with the work ethic. I mean he truly he works,
sometimes works too hard. I think he overworked last summer
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and came into camp with a little bit of a
sore arm. And then we we found out later that
a better work regimen for him. And then this spring
um holding him out a little bit. But um workaholic,
I mean weight room studying. Uh loves virtual reality now
and uses it tremendously. Bruce Arians joins us. The Quarterback
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Whisper is the book. You can pick it up. Stud
gotlip show Fox Sports Radio. I mentioned it's a big year,
yet a lot of turnover on the defensive side of
the ball, losing four starters. UM, Larry Fitzgerald at least
on some level, thought about walking away as a free
agent at the end of this season. How important do
you think success the playoffs is? Um, It's important every year,
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but how important is it specifically this year? To your team?
Every year? And we have when we have one goal,
let's to win the Super Bowl. We got to get
into the playoffs first and hopefully win our division. I
mean those are goals that we set every year and
then we put them the side and we start going
to work every day and accomplished the things that we
want to accomplish in that practice every day. But I
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love this football team. I thought the additions were much
better than the subtractions on defense and offensively we've got
everybody healthy and uh um John Brown looks to be
healthy again, which would be huge force. But defensively Carlos
Dansby and Antoine but they were great additions to our
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to our team. Uh. And the draft. Robert Candici is
healthy now after his rookie year. I had at High
Anchle spring a year, so I really like where defense
is all right. I want to get back to this
book really quickly. Um, the book is not just quarterbackwards,
but how to build an elite NFL quarterback. Bruce, I'm
a I'm a father of an eight year old boy, right.
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I got no idea how big he's gonna be, but
he's got a good arm. But the question that all
of us parents ask ourselves is when do we do
we specialize? And you're a guy who watches and molds
and coaches elite NFL quarterbacks. If you could advise a
father of a burgeoning quarterback, would you tell them to
focus on just being a quarterback? And if so, at
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what age? No, I would play all sports. I don't
like specialization. I think, uh, athletes, um have to be
I have to play two or three different sports to
become a real good athlete and train all the muscles
in your body to become a great athlete. I don't
think you can do that through weightlifting and things, especially
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at nine, ten, eleven, twelve years old. You gotta play
every sport and become a leader. I mean, your ship
is probably the number one thing, and playing quarterback throwing
the football is probably a second. So. Um, But to me,
I'm not one of these guys that, hey, ten ten
years old. Do you only play baseball? Are you only
play football? You go to these camps. To me, you're
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depriving that guy from becoming a truly rounded at late Um. Okay,
so leadership is number one, throwing a football is number
is number two. Um. Look, you have in southern California,
you have to elite quarterbacks. But they're both very young,
al right. You have Josh Rosen and Sam Donald. Donald
is just a red shirt freshman, did not start all
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of last year. What about the idea of of when
you come out of college and not you can't I
know you can't talk about these players specifically, But for
somebody who has helped so many achieved so much in
the NFL, how much how many games do they need
to play? How many years they need to play in
college as a starter before they have at least some
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sort of database and then step into a completely more
difficult uh sport in the National Football League. Well, yeah,
I'd like to see guys stay three years, but um,
each one so individually front um, their family situations, whatever
it is. As far as they're going to draft at
any position, but at quarterback, I think you need to
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play at least three years. And you know, if you're
twenty and you're stepping in a huddle a thirty two
year old lineman four kids, I don't know how good
a leader you're gonna be yet, you know you better
be damn sure you know everything you know about your offense.
Uh if one of these guys asked you a question. So, Uh,
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it's a little bit different from being the stud in
college and stepping into a huddle at the NFL with
guys ten and twelve years older than you who have
been doing it for a long time and their feeding
families and you're the guy that's gonna put bread on
their table? Do you know right away? Like, can you
watch a guy play even in his first year and
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saying he ain't got it or he's got it before
anybody if you watch him play in the NFL, can
you tell? Or can they evolve over time? Tell me
how your brain works. I think they can evolve. Yes,
So much of it depends on the team that they
get on and the culture of that locker room. Um,
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you know, if you're the number one pick, you're going
probably the worst team in the league unless somebody traded
up for you. Then you got really lucky. Uh So,
you know, I look back at Timmy Couch and David Carr,
two guys I thought were tremendous, got put on expansion
teams and just got broken up. I coached Tim Couch.
He was a hell of a player. No way, in
any way was he ever a bust. He had broken up.
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Last time the Browns went to the playoffs, Tim Couch
took him and then broke his leg in the last game.
But it's your, it's your. Football is the greatest game
because there's twenty two guys. You know, everybody says this
quarterback is not great. He doesn't have that many Super
Bowl wins, but he might not have a defense. Uh So,
there's so many romps, there's so many variables in the winning,
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not necessarily playing great quarterback. Well, it's a great, great
point about Tim Couch. Point about David Carr, of course,
was you know sact. It seemed like a thousand times
during that expansion year and they lost. Course, Tony Boselli
never played from the first pick of the expansion draft.
Could have protected him. Hey, Bruce, it's a great book.
You can get it on Amazon wherever books are are
are soul the quarterback whisper how to build an elite
(21:16):
NFL quarterback from a guy who has done it and
continues to do it in the desert. He's Bruce Arians,
the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. B A, thanks
so much for joining us in the Doug Outlip Show.
Thank you all the best. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three
pm Easter noon Pacific. The Nixon David Griffin, Like David
Griffin comes from Cleveland where he did not have complete
(21:39):
and autonomous power. Right he had the owner who was
who had power. You had Lebron James who had power,
and you had David Griffin, who has left to kind
of clean up the mess. And even in cleaning up
the mess, it's like, Okay, we want you to sign
Tristan Thompson. Great. I think he's worth X. They think
he's worth Why who's the rap by Rich Paul? Who's
(22:02):
Rich Paul's best friend Lebron James. Lebron James wants him signed?
The boy right? I mean j R. Smith is a
free agent. Last year they overpaid. So the point is this,
like he didn't get them. Lebron, he didn't get them, Kyrie,
he did the best he could. But he carries the
(22:24):
I'm gonna say bias. He carries the He has a
history of dealing with an owner who meddled and didn't
get along with the star who meddled, and an agent
who reps your star and reps several of the other players,
which puts use It in in a completely uncomfortable situation
of trying to kind of pacify the world's greatest player
(22:49):
and satisfy the owner who's your boss, and try and
build a great team, right, Like that's really hard to do,
isn't it. They're like, oh, I never really thought of
it that way. And then you have the New York Knicks, who,
as much as you can say like, hey, look you're
in the York Kicks. You don't know what you're doing.
Just turn the thing over to David Griffin and be
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done with it. Well, what got the Knicks in this
in this predicament from their perspective to begin with, Phil
Jackson had complete and autonomous power, total power. And so
when you when you walk into a place to which
you're like, you know what, I really want to have
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final say on roster on salary cap. Those don't sound
like unreasonable expectations. But if you're the New York Knicks,
you're like, look, we just gave Phil Jackson, who want
eleven NBA championships, complete for him to hire who he wanted,
top down coach, general manager, vice president, scouts, do whatever
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the hell you want. Just take the Knicks and here's
the money, and go win. And it didn't work. And
so David Griffin's what what most most of American reacts like, Oh,
the next really screwed up a different and maybe they did,
maybe they did, or maybe they just um, maybe they
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just uh are trying to not make the same mistake twice,
And David Griffin is trying to not take the same
job twice. It's possible, right, I mean, look what happens
in coaching, right, All coaches are all coaching? Have you
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hire the opposite of the guy who was there before.
If you have an offensive guy, you are a defensive guy.
If you have a young coach, the next coach is
an old coach. If you have a disciplinarian, next guych
is like a But when you're successful, you find your types, right,
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You find your types. And I think David Griffin believes
he knows what his type is and the Nicks are
they're so bewildered by the fact that they've had from
Larry Brown and Isaiah Thomas and and Donnie Um, Donnie
Walsh and all these different people come in and not
able to turn the thing around. They're like, look, last
time we gave Footville Jackson total power, why would we
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give David Griffin total power? He didn't even have that
in Cleveland. It's not as crazy you would think. The
problem is if he doesn't have power, who does? Who does?
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I get compared with people all the time. I actually
think this is funny. So I've heard people they're like, well,
you know your your shell. You're like, you think, what
do you think you'd Kell and Calherd like, well, I
actually don't think I'm calling My style is different than Collins.
But if you're gonna compare me to somebody who I
think has probably the best national sports radio show in
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the country, then thank you very much, right, or like
you know, you think they're trying to be clever with
your interviews, like what do you think you're Dan Patrick? Like,
you know what if I could be Dan Patrick, that's
cool with me, and that's cool with me. I mean,
people compare me all the time music. You know, they're
like I was walking down street and drew something like
is that George Clooney? No, that's Doug God. There. It
happens quite often you couldn't pick someone at least remotely close,
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like you had to go George Clooney. Um, I've gotten well.
When Aaron Rodgers was drafted, Aaron Watcher was drafted, everybody
said we looked alike. Now Aaron Rodgers um has has
surpassed me. Money has been good, his hair is better
than mine as well. And we've hung out once or
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twice and nobody thought we'd looked alike. When we do,
we look like we could be maybe brothers from other
mothers that we could maybe be brothers, but more probably
more cousins than any just we're two white guys. He's
a little bit taller. Uh, you know, he has a
slightly better arm than I have. That's about it. Anyway,
I've heard Daron Rodgers when I was a kid who
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was a kid who played Josh Basking and uh Big,
you rather only Big rons Prime? Yes, okay, the kid
the kid in Big that was um, that was that
was what people said I look like. So anyway, I
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bring that up because you know, like comparing incomparables me
and George Clooney is a lot like what Damian Harrison
did on Good Morning Football. Take a listen. When you
look at Eli, it's kind of like when you look
at Lebron. I'm not saying that the same, but look
at Eli's numbers. Any other quarterback would have those numbers.
It would be an amazing year, but it would be
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a Eli. Nobody is respecting it as much as would
do Lebron, Lebron and every thirty assist and he didn't
do nothing. Yeah, So what he's saying is like, you're
gonna miss me when I'm gone, Right, You're gonna You're
gonna miss You're gonna miss old Eli when he's gone.
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You don't appreciate how good Eli Manning has been, which
I do think there's some there's there, there's something to that.
I also think that there's the truth about Eli is
he's good, has he's never been the best quarterback in
the National Football Lake. There's not anybody I know who
could make the argument of, you know, Eli Manning is
the best quarterback inn Like, nobody makes that argument. It
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does not actually exist. So that's kind of the first thing.
The second thing is, um, I think there is a
parallel there in some of the that He's had bad lines,
he's had bad schemes, he's had wide receivers to get hurt,
had drops, he's had bad defenses, He's had the things.
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But the difference is that that Lebron statistically has produced
at a greater level than Eli Manning has, and Lebron hasn't.
Remember you go back to to you a couple years
ago when Tom Coughlin got fired, it was Eli Manning,
who ah, who screwed up a couple of the games late,
especially the Dallas Cowboys game late, and that's why they lost.
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So I just I think it's too much of reach.
I understand what Damien Harrison saying. He's like, look, he's
really really good, and Lebron James is great, and Lebron
James gets taken for granted, Eli Mannings maybe not Lebron James,
but he's still a great player, and he gets taken
for granted. I think sometimes great players get taken for
vanned instead. There's the comparison there. Like you mentioned Lebron,
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I don't know. I don't know. I have never ever
won snore. Do I know anybody alive who has said,
you know who? You know who Eli Manning or finds
me of he reminds me of? You know, he reminds
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me of Lebron James, and then does never happen, not
one time, not a single solitary time. Be sure to
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and the I Heart Radio app. Alex Rodriguez was on
(30:26):
with Colin With with Colin Coward right and a Rod
live from the All Star Game, and Alex had this
to say about who Aaron Judge reminds him of. Here's
a guy, Colin that I'm so excited for. For the
first time in a long time, we have a Lebron
James type of personality and size that can transcend sports.
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Here's a guy who's six ft seven two and seventy
five pounds nine body fat, thirty two in vertical. The
guy bench presses four pounds, squats five pounds, and and
he's he's an amazing figure. Mean, and for the next
generation to say, well, there's a guy that could be
a tight end and an All Pro and he chose baseball,
Why can't I? And hopefully the kids are taking notes
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of Aaron Judge. I mean, I what this says to me,
This is one of it's one of the things that
says to me that I do think that dominant athletes
can dominate baseball. I've always thought that that one of
the reasons that steroids like Barry Bonds was a dominant
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athlete who took who took steroids, and that's why he
went from an m v P and a Hall of
Famer to the greatest home run here we had ever
seen late in his career. And and one of the
things that probably lad that people said lad Barry Bonds
to doing this was look what Sammy so said Mark mcguires,
especially Sammy Sosa, who was a middling player and became
(31:51):
a great home run hitter. The point is that a
lot of baseball players are just baseball players and aren't
big enough, aren't strong enough, aren't let it annount. If
you put a legit dude out there, like Aaron Judge,
legit dude who could play at least two sports, look
at how he dominates. This also helps my argument about soccer, right,
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not that Aaron Judge could play soccer, but the argument
about baseball. Like if you're Microt's great athlete, Bryce Harper
is a great athlete, like those guys great athletes that
in other sports that are also really good that have
become great baseball players. It's the same thing about soccer.
We will as a country when our athletic aeron judges right,
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when our defensive backs wide receivers when they play soccer,
that's when we'll take that next step. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays
at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. Mark Mark Cuban was
on NBA TV broadcast and among the things he said, huh.
(32:55):
Among the things he said, among the things he's said
were that if they were in the Eastern Conference, they
wouldn't be rebuilding, you know. Uh. Cuban also said about
Um that when they drafted Dennis Smith, he spoke to
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him about combing through an archive of Dennis Smith's tweets.
He said, quote, you know, one of the first things
after we drafted Dennis and I'm talking to him on
the phone, I'm like, dude, I went through your Twitter account.
It's time to get on their and delete. And so
he went through it, and to his credit, hey, there
they were gone. He had a lot of stupid stuff
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out there. Um, the most notable one was when he
was fourteen years old. It was pretty funny. It was
pretty funny. But the biggest part that he said was
that that the Warriors were the reason for the MAVs
to rebuild, and that if they were in the Eastern Conference,
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it would be completely different. And while there's some validity
to the fact that the Warriors are so good, so good,
we're rebuilding, right, he said, there's no question about it.
If we were in the East, we would not be rebuilding.
We'd be handling things completely different. I think I'm going
to kidnap at him silver and not let him out
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until he moves us to the Eastern Conference. Giving where
we are, given where the Warriors are, what's happening in
the Western Conference, it's kind of sealed what we have
to look The Dallas Mavericks are coming off a thirty
three and forty nine season, and he admitted to me
months ago. He admitted to Dan Patrick on his show
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that they wanted to lose games they played young players.
But let's not act like they were really really close
before they started having injuries and decided to dump the season.
Let's not act like last year they were close. Dirk
Novitski has taken less than they've tried to surround him
with more. But none of the pieces have ever worked out,
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and they haven't gotten out in the first round. They
haven't been players in this thing. They just haven't. And
they're not players in the Eastern Conference, they're not players
in the Western Conference. I love Dirk Navitzi. I love him.
Who doesn't like Dirk? Like he's one of the most
likable superstars in the history of the NBA, no question
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about um. But Dirk Navitski was born two years after me.
That makes him thirty nine years old. Like he's over
the hill. It takes him two hours of physical therapy
just to get him ready to play every night. And
I even play every night. You know, he's been doing
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a long long time. But like you ever four TDA
game last year playing twenty six minute it's um and
he played in fifty four games. So Cuban can just
can say all he wants. Hey, if we were in
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the Eastern Conference, we're If you're in the Eastern Conference,
you would suck in the Eastern Conference, just like you
suck in the Western Conference. Mark Cuban is a lot
of things, but because of how they've rebuilt, he took
a lot of chances. He got Wes Matthews, who was
straight off, and Achilles Tenant tear. They went and they
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tried to get Darren Williams. Oh, you know what Darren
wi is We can fix Darren Williams ankles. Well, guess
what Darren Williams is over the hill. Harrison Barnes is.
I think Harrison Barnes is one of those guys that
went from overpaid to probably maybe a little bit underrated.
He's a good player, But West Matthews often Achilles Dirk
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Navitsky who's thirty nine years old, and Harrison Oranges, who
on a great team is a really good fifth starter,
is considered probably their best player. Like, it doesn't matter
what division you're in, you weren't going to win
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