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live from Sonny windy Los Angeles, California, where we have
a super Bowl the Patriots, the Eagles like Eagles. The
Patriots and the Eagles to one seeds, play like one seeds.

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Homefit advantage proves to be just that, and we got
ourselves as suple in the Twin Cities. A week from
this upcoming Sunday, two weeks from yesterday will be no
home team super Bowl. Um, look we can get to
the falls. Uh. Incredible performance against the Minnesota Vikings, the

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battle of the backups in Philadelphia, Eagles fans are still
a bunch of schmucks, even though um, they get the win.
Just do you see enough video, you talk to enough
people who went to the game. We're treated poorly by
Eagles fans and congrats you one. Nobody likes you like no, No,
we're Philadelphia, We're like city. Everybody like no, you're a

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bunch of a holes the way you treat people. Okay,
you're not kidding anybody. Reputation earned over time, over time,
People fall back on the they threw snowballs at Santa Right,
what kind of a hole would throws snowball at Santa
an Eagle fan? Uh? But and which also proves the

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no one. Actually, people don't like fans don't actually get
what they deserve. Oh we get what we just say, like, hey,
you get what the team on the field does. That's
it you have. There is no connection between team on
the field and players on the team on the field
and people in the stands um anyway. But I do
think there is something too, the fact that Folds was

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able to produce and Um and his fellow former backup
case Keenum was not. All right. I'm gonna get to
the Patriots in one second, but let me just start
with this. We're getting ready for the NFL Draft, and
there will always be a discussion about intangibles and how

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quarterback is a neck up position, and it is, okay,
there's a lot of neck up. You gotta be able
to handle the media. You gotta be able to hand
the wide receivers. You gotta be able to handle the coaches,
the offensivecording to the quarterback coach, the offensive line. You
have to get those guys to compete for you. You
have to get everybody pulling in the same direction, even
when their agents, their wives, their common sense is telling

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them to pull in their own direction. You cannot. It
is a neck up position. But you know what else
it is, It's a neck down position. Right case, Keenum
is not a starter in this league. And it's not
because of anything neck up. It's because of shoulder out.
It just doesn't have He doesn't have the size and
doesn't have the arm strength and isn't a freak athlete

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to make up for not having the size and the
arm strength and doesn't have the arm strength to make
up for not having the size or as foals. A
lot of his issues were neck up, finding a system
that worked for him, finding the confidence in himself, and
having a coach that would call flee flickers and letting

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him throw the ball down the football field. Keenom didn't
throw it down the field because he couldn't Bulls wouldn't
throw the ball down the field because he was limited
by his own mind and by the play calling. And
the play calling is how we find a bridge to
the Patriots just being better. Here's the question I have
for you. Is there even one of you that, at

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any point in time in the fourth quarter thought the
Patriots are gonna lose that game? Nope, And he knew
who else thought the Patriots would not lose that game?
The New England Patriots. Right, there's no bad body language.
There was a three and out early in the fourth
quarter and they're downturn. You're like, wow, this doesn't look good.

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But then you're like, yeah, they're getting back. And the
telltale sign that they would get it back that the
Jaguars were not ready for this moment was at the
end of the first half. At the end of the
first half. Do you guys remember what happened at the
end of the first half. If not, I'll tell you, Okay,

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at the end of the one first half in the
second game, the Eagles got the ball and drove down
and kicked the field goal and added to their lead.
At the end of the other first half, the Jacksonville
Jaguars got the ball and chose to take a knee
rank because the Jaguars were they were fat girls at
the prompt. They were just happy to be there. Right,

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it's fourteen ten at the half fifty three seconds ago,
and you're like, yeah, we're good here, we're okay with
the three point lead, which signals to everybody in America,
we don't believe in our quarterback. The narrative of nobody
believes in Blake Bortles is in fact accurate, because the
guys in the sideline and in their own coaches box

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didn't believe in him, didn't trust him even though he
was dominating the game and playing a damn good football game.
Didn't trust him to make the right reads and the
right throws even against one of the worst statistically worst
defenses in the NFL. One they were in the second
quarter marching up and down the field against Whereas the

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Patriots they have confidence, they have arrogance. They did not
have Rob Gronkowski, and the last time we saw them
without Rob Gronkowski, they were awful looking, right, They're like,
what do you mean? They play the Miami Dolphins and
couldn't move the ball and couldn't protect Brady. But you
know what, they've been there before, and they acted like

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they've been there before. And look, we're going crazy over
Brady's throw to Mundola. I go, it was a catch,
catches it one ft down, going down lean left foot down,
but then moves the ball so that it doesn't hit
the ground first. Because we know at River run will
do the opposite of what people think, which is rule

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against the rule against the Patriots. What I say, our
River run. What I say, ed River run ed al
tato potato. But the the confidence that you have in
the Patriots is the same confidence they have in themselves,

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and it goes counter to how the game was being played.
The Jaguars looked younger, looked more athletic, rallied to the
football On defense, there was no reasonable explanation for their
ability to come from ten down in the a f
C Championship game against one of the best defenses in football,

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with the exception of the Patriots. Some of it is
neck up confidence. Everybody pulled in the same direction, understanding, Okay,
we don't have Rob Gronkowski, so what's our second best weapon,
right Brandon Cook's speedster. They're playing way off of him.
Let's just keep running hits routes to him. How many

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of those do we see? And Romo is up there
going like you might want to challenge him a little bit.
The only problem with Romo is saying that is that
sounds really good from the booth, but then you get
close to that dude and beet beep, He's gone a
j Boullier. The refs are against this other, not the
Patriots were against you. I've always thought this. I always

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thought this. They understand the rules, understand the game, understand
reading how somebody is reacting and playing, and read it
and and adjust. That game was a very loosely officiated game,
and they took advantage of it. When you have a

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quarterback playing very loosely on a wide receiver, they take
advantage of. When they sense that you don't have confidence
in your quarterback, they take advantage of. Whatever the Jacksonville
Jaguars game plan was, it was good, it was working.
Then they get tied at the end of the the first half,
and then the second half just too many wasted possessions
to which they couldn't figure out exactly what they want

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to do or how they wanted to do it. No,
Patriots defense is not that good, all right, But when
you get to uh, when you get to situations which
you have to throw the football now a sudden. They
got a little bit of pass rush, and what do
they do better than anybody else? Right, waiver wire James

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Harrison plays really, really well. A guy who could not
get on the field for the Steelers. Turns out they
didn't need him to break down the Steelers game plan.
They just needed him to get after the quarterback, and
he did it enough to get some happy defeat from
a quarterback who end up a kind of regressing towards
the mean in many ways. Here's Doug Morone in the game.

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You know, it was a hard fought game by both
teams in all three phases. Um. You know, we're able
to get I want to say momentum, but we're able
to get the lead. And you know then we we
didn't make enough place to keep the lead or we
had an opportunity to end of the game to win it,
we weren't able to do that. Yeah, I mean, like, look, dude,
you you can't drive with the parking break on r

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Excuse me, I said, fifty three fifty five seconds to go,
Patriot score a touchdown on a six play eighty five
yard drive, you get the ball back full boat of
touchdown for full boat of timeouts in the first half,
two kneel downs? Are you doing saying? You want to?
You You're right? You you you didn't you. All you

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were trying to do is hold on to lead. You
weren't trying to extend the lead, to expand the lead.
And that's not how you run a good business. And
that's definitely not how you run a good team. Um.
And you know, look they did get the ball to
start in the second half and march down, get a
field goal, up seventeen to ten, get another stop. But

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then you know they had no creativity in their play calling.
They they seem they seem to go, I cannot believe
we're leading this game. What do we do next? Well,
we just hold on to the the lead. That's exactly what
they did. They tried to hold on, try to hold on.
So I look, I use lots of horse riding analogies,
like my girls ride horses, right, you don't. You don't
hold on. You happen to hold on while you're riding.

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Just happens to be something you do. But I would
love to say that I was sitting here, I'm shocked.
I'm stunned. But like I've seen this movie. I know
how it ends, right, Tom Brady being interviewed and the
ah shucks, this one was really hard, and yeah, we
overcame adversity. I love this team. We're going to the
super Bowl. I know exactly how this one ended. Here's

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a here's a great line. Here's Bill Belichick on Brady's hand.
Sound did a great job and he's a tough guy.
We all know that, all right, But I'm not talking
about open heart surgery here. Yes, we're not talking about
open erge for surgery. That's amazing, right, Like Tom Brady
just wins him another a f C championship game. They're
going to another super Bowl, and like, look, God bless him.

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I think he's right. I think it is getting a
little bit overdone and it was a little bit crazy,
and it's not open heart surgery. But I mean he
had to go full Belichick then he Even the best
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part you don't need to stop by to day getting
the zone auto Zone. Dave Spielman seriously, Todd Gottlieb Show
just called all Eagles fans schmucks because a few were
mean to Vikings fans. Need I remind you a Cowboys
fan who murdered somebody outside the stadium or countless other
fan BA something I don't know that was there? What
what Cowboys fan murdered somebody wasn't aware of that? Yeah,

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there's actual video evidence of throwing full but beer cans
at Vikings fans, and there isn't video of evidence of
Eagles fans going like, hey guys, let's not do that.
That's not cool. The happiest moment of the night last
night is the video of the guy trying to get
the subway running into the poll. Amazing. I gotta love

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you social media, all right. Up Coming next, Chris Sims
will join the show. I'll ask him if he had
any doubts about the Patriots to come back and win
that game. Plus what the hell got into Nick Foles?
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his working Bleach Report and he joins us here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um, were you at at even
modestly surprised that without Rob Grenkowski downtown the fourth quarter
that the Patriots came back and won that game? No,
I was not surprised. I think the big thing that
I look at is I'm hearing myself back. Do you

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guys hear me twice? We'll make an adjustment here? We
were not but that okay, okay, good now, actually it
went away, so I think we're good. I think the
thing I was gonna say too, though, with Rob Gronkowski, No,
I'm not shocked. I mean, this is the New England
Patriots who came back from three down last year in
the Super Bowl without Rob Gronkowski, So I knew they
were capable of that. I honestly, what had happened to

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a degrease said, you know, this could be a semi
blessing in disguise because Brady at times can latch onto
Gronk too much. As the game goes on. This kind
of forced him to spread the wealth and beat the
Jaguars great defense with an array of different weapons and
different guys. Um, okay, let let's get to let's let's
let's backtrack a little bit. We're actually Gronk went out

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in the first half fifty five seconds ago in the
first half. Isn't that really telling when the Jaguars decided
to take a kneat, Bortles is playing good. Patriots defense
is not great. Pat's just score and I know the
Jacks are gonna get the ball. Uh, we're gonna get
the ball after halftime. But to not even attempt to
get a first down to see if they wanted to
take a knee In't that telling of the Jaguars trying

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to hold on the lead, not extend the lead. Yeah,
I mean, I think it's telling for a lot of things. Yes,
certainly they're going, hey, we're up fourteen to ten, it's
the New England Patriots. Let's just you know, let's go in,
make adjustments, come out and kind of play the same
way in the second half. The other thing it does,
is Doug it just says what we've already known. They
don't trust Blake Bortles in those situations. This is why

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they are a better team this year. You know, Gus
Bradley got fired at three and thirteen because he asked
Blake Bortles to do normal quarterback stuff, dropped back, throw
the ball thirty times a game, try to find open
receivers within the pocket, all those things. And Doug Moron,
Tom Coughlin, they're smart enough to go, no, we've seen
this guy burn us in these situations before, So you

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would have done the same thing. I would have. Yes,
I would have. I am not. I would have not
at that situation. Gone, Okay, here we go, Blake Bortles.
We're gonna drop back in a situation where we know
we're gonna throw the football and New England's gonna be
expecting us to throw the football. And he throws an
interception and New England goes down and gets the field,
go to our touchdown before the half, and now the

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whole momentum of the game has changed. So you would
done nothing differently if you're the if you're the Jaguars, No,
I really won't. I mean, and I know it's easy
to second guess them, but I also believe this is
the reason why they're in the playoffs this year, because
Marone and Coughin figured out how to manage Blake Bortles
and play the game differently, And this is what got
them there to this point, uh to where they were

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in the NFC Championship game, and there was no reason
to abandon that plan as of yesterday. How's Brady keep
doing it? Explain Explain it? Yeah, I mean he's first
of all, he's amazing. Let's just say that he's got
a great arm. He has an arm and emotion that
that lasts the test of time. It's not like Peyton
Manning where he gets his arm way up over his head.
Brady can still throw the hundred mile proud fastball. He

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can still paint the corners. And then let's not forget
it's one of the best offenses in football. The system,
the attention to detail, Belichick knowing how to attack other defenses,
all that together makes the greatness of Brady in the
New England Patriots. And then the MNDLA catch. I mean, like, look,
Julio jones Is catch in the Super Bowl when they
were up to three, uh is the best catch in

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a big game I can remember, Like that was a
but Ammendola's catches is at least in the conversation, he
was over his head. He catches it, gets his right
foot down, falling down on his right side, but then
taps the left foot and takes the football away so
it doesn't hit the ground first, you know, which, of course,
would have been ruled in complete even if you really
caught the football. Like the m and Dolar catch was.

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As much as the Brady throw was spectacular, the catch
was a better part of it. It was amazing. And
you're right, it was a great throw by Brady. And
and again you know everyone out there, all the Patriots
get lucky. You know what, The Patriots don't get lucky.
They just work harder and practice harder and pay attention
to details more than everybody else. And I could tell you,
having played for Josh McDaniels and having worked up in
New England, they practice those type of throws at the

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end of practice every day. The philosophy and the red
zone is throw it low in the front of the
end zone. Throw it high in the back of the
end zone. Why because if you throw it low in
the front of the end zone, the ball doesn't get
tipped up. It just goes in the ground. You throw
it high in the back of the end zone, it
gets tipped up, It goes into the stands, it goes
out of bounds, it takes away the risk factor um,
but just an amazing game because you saw it, Doug.

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The Jaguars were clearly the better football team on that field,
and New England and Brady Belichick overcame it once again. Amazing.
So they're gonna face the Philadelphia Eagles. How did the
Vikings defense looks so ordinary where it looks so extraordinary
most of the year. Yeah, I think I mean, first
of all, the Eagles defense getting that pick six. I

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don't think I can remember one play changing the momentum
of the game more than that, just at least in
recent history the Vikings. The Vikings defense, I think the
biggest issue is it's a really thin defense. If you
look at the numbers. They don't play a lot of guys,
especially on the front floor, and they've been worn out.
They haven't been as productive rushing the pastor towards the
second half of the season, and they ran into a

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team that's one of the biggest, most physical teams in
all in all of football with the Philadelphia Eagles, and
they had no answer for the run pass option. Uh,
they had no answer for the downhill run game. And
then Nick Foles got on fire and they just stomped
them out but this Eagles team, the real I mean,
this is the biggest, baddest team in football as far
as just size is concerned. And that's why they have

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a chance to go in there and hanging with New
England and maybe even beat him. I know that the
pick six wasn't necessarily his fault, right, I mean, like
Keenum could have stepped up in the pocket a little
bit more and so maybe his arm would But his
arm was hit as he's throwing the football that caused
to pick six. But very similar to to last week
really when there was was there's an interception and and

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he seemed to lose his confidence. They seemed to lose
their their confidence in him. It did have dramatic change
momentum um. But the the other part that was that
was obvious to me is like, look, he just doesn't
have the arm and and he doesn't have the one
He's not you have to be so spectacularly talented running
the football if you don't have the arm. But even

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then this is a tangible thing. Whereas Folds, his flaws
were never necessarily arm strength. A lot of it was
confidence and Keenum looked like a backup for the for
maybe the second time in two weeks. That is that
a fair assessment of why he was so limited yesterday?
You know, I mean to a degree, I mean, you're right.
I mean he's not the most physically gifted special ter
back and football certainly, But I do think he's starting

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quarterback caliber material. I do, even if it may be
low end. I still you know, he is capable. If
you put a team around him and weapons around him,
he can go out and win football games. And you
know yesterday, yes, he had three turnovers, but like you said,
the first interception, I'm not putting that on him. The fumble,
I'm definitely not putting on him. Did you see the
pass protection on that. I mean they had the tight

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end on the right side of the formation trying to
come across and block the first round pass rushing defense
end Barnett one on one, he gets hit from behind.
The game's fourteen to seven. They're still in it at
that point. That completely closed the door. So I listen.
I still think he's seen him as a good priyer,
and I think he deserves to be a starting quarterback
somewhere next year. Is he the guy that's gonna make

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you feel warm and cozy? That's gonna bring you back
from twenty one point deficits and things like that in
the fourth quarter. No, I don't think he's that type
of talent, but you can certainly win football games with him.
Would you have considered pulling him for Bradford when they
needed a spark? You know? Probably not. No, just away
the game unfolded. It just got out of hand in
such a hurry. I think that's the thing that's just amazing.

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I mean it was. It was a fourteen seven game.
He fumbles, Okay, they go down to the score to
make it twenty one to seven, They go three and out,
they get a field goal before the half to seven.
The Eagles get the ball to start the second half
of thirty one to seven. So the game was over
at that point and Case Kingdom got there, and I'm
glad that Zimmer kept him in. He earned it, He

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earned the right to maybe bring the team back, even
though it was it was far fetched. Okay, we have
folds against the Patriots, and that defense of the Eagles
is real and it will be fast on that surface.
The Patriots or five and a half point favorites. It
feels like a lot when you look at how dominant
the Eagles defense has been all season long, and how

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this Patriots team has not been nearly as dominant on
the defensive side. I know they haven't allowed a lot
of points, but they have allowed a ton of yards.
What your sense on how we should look at this
match up? Yeah, I think it's gonna be a great matchup.
I mean, Philadelphia is big and physical, just like Jacksonville,
but they're more creative on the offense and defensive side
of the ball. So I think they can stress New

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England schematically a little bit more, uh than maybe Jacksonville did.
Jacksonville just kind of lines up and says, hey, here
we are. This is what we do see if you
can beat us, and I love to watch that. But
this Eagles team with there, they have a huge offensive line.
They're gonna be able to run the football. I do
believe that. And like we said, with their defensive line,
their front four, they have a ton of depth on

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their defensive line. These are the kind of teams we
talk about, like Jacksonville last week, like the Giants that
upset them in the Super Bowl, where we go, they
can get to the quarterback with their front four, they
can make Brady and company uncomfortable. Yeah, it's five and
a half points. That seems a lot, But you know,
I certainly could see the Eagles up by one or
two points late in the game and then Brady goes

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down and throws a touchdown pass and they win by
six points and cover. So that that, you know, would
still be a good football game. That's closed. But it's
New England as Brady and I expect them to pull
it out some way. It's been really really amazing, right,
I mean, I just you can't a sport that's supposed
to give us new blood in the playoffs every year
has with the exception of the Patriots, and and in life,

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you know, we we hear, you know, the Rulers Father
Time is undefeated. And yet here Brady is in the
fourth quarter against a more athletic team without his top
two weapons entering the year, and yet he does it again.
It defies it defies logic, it really, it really does.
And you know, for all those people out there that
want to hate against the New England Patriots, I would
just say this, just embrace it. They're not going anywhere

(25:38):
anytime soon. This is special what we're seeing. It's one
of the greatest dynasties in the history of American sports.
And like you said, the rules are set up to
be even, and the one thing they haven't been is
even because New England is unbelievable. I tell people this
all the time, Doug. With my experience working in New England,
I always have coaches and people from over the organizations

(25:58):
ask me about New One and they usually don't like
my first answer because it's a little too detailed and
it means there was a lot of work done to
get there, and they don't ask a follow up question.
New England coaches they out compete you, Brady. I'll compete
to you seven three five, and that's why they're the
New England Patriots. Awesome stuff, Chris Hide to the family,
thanks so much for joining us. Man a good week.

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on Wednesday. Uh, Dan, at any point in time did
you think do Engyone's gonna lose that game. There was
a point to the first half where I thought, wow,
Jacksonville has their number. And then when they couldn't put
them away, couldn't put them away, the the graph started going, Okay,
in New England's gonna come back. It's not that Brady
is great every single time, but he just has his

(27:02):
margin for error is bigger. So you can shut them
down for three drives, but that fourth drive, it's just
it's not going to happen. When they couldn't get a
first down Jacksonville meaning to change field position, and I
knew it was over. Yeah, just a matter of time. Now.
All the other teams in the NFL, at least thirty
others trying to keep up with the Eagles and Patriots,
including the Arizona Cardinals. They've hired Panthers defensive coordinator Steve

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Wilkes to be their new head coach, gets a four
year deal with a fifth year option to replace Bruce Arians.
Titans made a higher over the weekend. They mean Mike
Vrabel was their new head coach and now the Tennessee
and says that Vrabel won't bring back defensive coordinator Dick Lebou, who,
at eight years old, is likely to consider retirement. Boston
Herald says the Patriots are optimistic that tendant Rob Gronkowski
will be cleared from his concussion and play in Super

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Bowl fifty two against the Eagles coming up in two weeks.
Timber Wolves card Jimmy Butler out tonight against the Clippers
because of a store need. Dug DeAndre Jordan's still up
for the Clippers. He won't play against the Wolves because
of his sprain dankle. A lot of speculation that he'll
be moved right, A ton of speculation that Jimmy that
DeAndre Jordan could be traded multiple teams. UH interested in

(28:06):
of course if like of the stories that we missed
on this weekend because of the NFL playoffs. The Cleveland
Cavaliers gave up a hundred and forty eight points to
the Oklahoma City Thunder on Saturday. It was so bad
that David Blatt, getting ready to coach an All Star
Game in Turkey, even laughed about it. Now coaching an

(28:28):
All Star game in Turkey, He's like, look, I hope
we don't give up as many points that the Calves
gave up earlier today, By the way, Black's team did
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UM I thought this on the Buried Church hit, so
burried Church. Whether he leaves with his shoulder and hits
with the helmet, I don't think anybody who saw that
hit didn't think it was the right call to be
unnecessary roughness, right, like you can't necessarily you can't judge.
Or tried to lead with his shoulder and he had

(29:11):
ended up being a helmet to helmet hit. And he
launched himself at Rob Gronkowski. Now they launched his shoulder
or launched his head. They want to cut down on
the launching and Grand got a concussion. So here is
the simple rules adjust Like some things are just simple,
here's a simple rules adjustment. I don't believe every time

(29:33):
there's a helmet to helmet collision and somebody gets concussion,
you should sit out. But or however, if the penalty
is for unnecessary roughness or launching yourself or a helmet
to helmet, if you get a penalty for it and
the player leaves the playing field, you have to leave

(29:54):
to the playing field until he returns. Now, obviously there's
the gray area and the of the well, what if
it's a backup. If he's not clear to play, you
can't be on the field. I mean, that was a scary,
scary hit. And I know here we are protecting Rob

(30:15):
Gronkowski's brain. What is there really to protect? I get it, okay,
but it's the idea in mind that if you're trying
to take that stuff out of football, the only way
to take it out of football is take the guy
at the football field who does it. And if he's
out for two weeks of the concussion, sorry, you're out
for two weeks of concussion. It doesn't seem fair. Okay, Okay,

(30:42):
what do you think Rama's that too too harsh? I
think that's a I don't know if he's just a
out the exact time the guy, Maybe he sit out
for the that game until for a couple of plays,
but taking him out for the same like two weeks.
If the guys out for two weeks, that's a little
bit to me, it's a little bit harsh for for that.
I mean, see, only way you're gonna get it out
out of the game. That's true. You gotta go extreme

(31:03):
to to stop something. You're right about that, So yeah,
I mean I wouldn't be totally against it, but it
just seems right now when you say it, a little
bit harsh on on that side. But music, what do
you think. I do think it's it's harsh. I would
go more a fixed number of suspension. So like, let's
say it has to be one full game plus whatever

(31:25):
the remainder of the game you're in the problem. The
problem is like Barry Church, like you feel bad at
fifty penalty you have they lost proble Gronkowski, So it's
like was it worth it? Hell, yeah, it was worth it,
Absolutely worth it. I do it again, right, That's that's
why it has to be the remainder of that game.
So if it happens in the first quarter, that's almost

(31:46):
an entire game in itself, plus one full game after.
So if in that case with Barry Church, she would
have missed the remainder of that game, and it would
have carried over to the Super Bowl. Uh No, because
the game either they're eliminated. I don't think you do that.
I'm saying, like, in a game, you lay a dude
out with a with an unsportsmanlike hit, shouldn't you have

(32:07):
to come out of the game? And I don't necessarily
mean injection, like I don't know. If he's not concussed
then like again, and some concussions are caused by when
you hit the ground. That was a concussion clearly caused
by the hit. And I know you're like, well, these
are really hard things to really hard things to rule,
because you know, some harder hits or even dirty hits

(32:28):
don't end up in concussion. I got it. I understand.
Buyer out way. Is there any way in which you
would you can create a rule so that buried Church
doesn't benefit from an unsportsmanlike hit, Josh, I think that
you're on the right track with it. You've got to
do something that's substantial, isn't. Isn't one of the arguments
we've heard. We've heard if you don't want hits like that,

(32:50):
don't have him wear face maks masks or don't wear helmets,
and we say, oh my gosh, and it's so absolutely absurd,
but it would, you know, curb the number. So what
you're saying is, yeah, is it worth it? I mean
I also look at with Gronkowski as well, because he's
such a mismatched nightmare Doug that he actually isn't even
able to use his size and strength to the true

(33:11):
advantage because of these hits that he ends up taking
and it's obviously you know, beating up his body, but
not specific instance. Yeah, I don't think that you're going
down the wrong road at all with this. I mean, like, look, um,
they've already they've already what they've done to protect the
quarterback is they know the quarterbacks are assets to the league.
They are more important in other positions. Why is there

(33:32):
different rules because they're more important? They just are? Okay.
At my place of business, I hosted three hour radio show.
Cowherd host the three hour radio show. He's more important
than he is than I am. Why because he just is.
He makes more money for the company, So the rules
that apply for me don't apply for him. It's in
any job, it's that way, And they do things here

(33:56):
to protect him that they don't even necessarily protect me.
And if you can't figure that, it's the same in
your job. And so the question is when do tight
ends wide receivers, when do they get they've they've gotten
some special uh special treatment, right, But I mean, like, look,
forget about the forget about the concussions and the brain injuries.

(34:19):
Just the game is better when they're on the field.
What's it? Game is better when they're on the field.
I love a good flee flicker. I didn't think i'd
see it. Two flee flickers in one game, in like
one quarter. I didn't didn't think that would happen. But
I do love a good flee flicker. I think about
the flee flicker, is you think the flee flicker might

(34:39):
ultimately go away because teams don't run the ball nearly
as much. And of course then you get two teams
that run the ball a lot, and you got a
good flee flicker. And how good was the Patriots double
pass that ends up getting broken up by clear uh
Miles Jack and clear MC and Miles Jack, I do
sometimes and Miles Jack, who who was the sixty nine
for the page. It was just running down the field,

(35:00):
is trotting out field? Do to do? Like the Patriots
had a convoy, they got three offensive lineman and Miles
jack comes in and strips the ball away and and
they were still blocking in front of like, I don't
even what happened, big there, you got hit and bubbled.
Had no idea, no idea, nothing, says dumb lineman more
than oh my god, I can't believe that just happened

(35:21):
on my watch, Miles Jackson monster. But how good was
the like Lawston, it was? How good that double pass
play was? I was telling Ryan, I said that I
have never seen a more precise like you take through
it across the entire field, back to the to the
running back, and holy that is a dangerous play. And
yet they did it to perfection. They did well, not

(35:42):
well except for the fumble, except for that little except
for losing the ball awesome. Well, that is part of
the play that goes until until the until the whistle blur.
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Gonna join us in studio next hour and we'll go
through everything from this past weekend. Uh, some decisions the
Vikings need to make now, right, Vikings have three quarterbacks?

(36:44):
Who are you gonna pick? Um? And I think some
decisions a decision that Jacksonville Jaguars have to make, all
at the same position, four quarterbacks. Nobody feels like they
know who's going to be the starter with either team
that lost this past weekend. And of course we'll preview
the Super Bowl first though, Let's get to a game.

(37:08):
This is game time side on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
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(37:29):
let's take a look back at the weekend and maybe
even look ahead. Big deal, little deal or no deal.
That the Boston Herald says the Patriots are and I'm quoting,
optimistic that Teddan Rob Gronkowski will be cleared from his
concussion and play in Super Bowl fifty two in two weeks.
That's a big deal. They that this is a Really
the Eagles are not a fluke. We got an entire
season to show you how good a team they are

(37:51):
on the defensive side of the football. And um, you
might be able to beat the Jaguars with two arms
time behind your back, no no Edelman and no Gronkowski.
But the idea that you're gonna beat the Eagles in
the Super Bowl on a fast surface don't see it. Uh,
they're off, mystic because they feel like look two weeks time.
But concussions are funny, man. You know they can those

(38:13):
symptoms can reoccur, and all it takes is a doctor
to say no, we're not going to clear him, but
cautiously out to make the mystic tells you you'll probably
play big deal, little deal or no deal. That even
though TV ratings for yesterday's AFC Championship game were slightly
down from a year ago, it was still TV's highest
overnight since last year's Super Bowl, So it was the

(38:34):
highest rated show since Super Bowl fifty one? Is that
a big deal, little deal or no deal? I still
think that's a big deal. Um. I don't know if
you've seen the trades, but uh, Fox has decided to bid.
They're actually been only one is bidding more money then
CBS and NBC for Thursday night football. So the four
million dollars combined apparently there bid was more. Of course, Fox,

(38:56):
our TV brethren. They sold like everything but the kitchen,
sing gribd, everything but the live TV. So they got
like eighty they sell for sixty billion dollars. You got
like sixty billion dollars. Like what's another five million dollars
among friends if you want to get Thursday And the
point is that NFL numbers are not as good but
there it's not growing like it was, but it's still

(39:17):
a very very big audience. And this is on a
year in which there is a bunch of reasons to
not watch, right, the star quarterbacks and star players were injured,
there's some all kinds of league stuff, the games on
all the time, Like, there's all kinds of reasons to
not watch. But people are still watching in droves, just

(39:38):
maybe not at a growing number like it had in
the past. Yeah, Turner on ABC apparently dropping out for
that Thursday night bid. So it could come down to Fox,
NBC and CBS. I gotta I gotta guess as to
what Fox said. But we'll get to that a little bit. Okay,
maybe we'll do in the press even this while if
we don't get to it whenever. Big deal, little deal
or no deal. That Kentucky dropped out of the AP
Top twenty five College You poll for the first time

(39:58):
since I think that's a big deal as well. Uh.
It also proves that in college basketball you need age
and experience, not just athleticism in order to win. Now,
do I think they're better than a lot of the
top twenty five teams? I do. I think they were
just beaten at home by a veteran Florida team that
that that that should that is finally playing like they

(40:20):
were thought they would play at the start of the year.
Big deal, Little Deal or No Deal Doug that an
ESPN report says that spurs forward Kawhi Leonards relationship with
the team is distant and disconnected. Of course, he had
to rehab from his quad injury, now dealing with a
shoulder issue as well. Um, I think that's uh that
that's a little deal. I thinks a little deal because

(40:44):
the teams still saying like, you can be frustrated, okay,
and he can you can feel like he's quiet, but
he's quiet and kind of removed anyway, and you can
be frustrated at the inability to rehab an injury doesn't
mean you're frustrated with the human beings. So sometimes it's
how the story is really aid more than U doesn't
mean it's inaccurate. It just may not be relating the

(41:04):
right context. Final one and maybe my favorite, Big deal,
Little deal or No Deal that the Wizards recently held
a team meeting to straighten things out, and some feel
the meeting actually made the team worse. John Walt told
The Washington Post that some players actually took the criticisms
personally and it set them back. Uh, that's a big deal.

(41:25):
That's a big problem when you're when you're when you're
having an airing of grievances, and people don't like the
grievances being aired when they're Of course, this reminds me
of in our industry. Everybody wants everybody says they want feedback.
They don't want feedback, they want somebody. They want something
important to go. Yeah, you know what, You're awesome. You
just keep being awesome. This is game time on the

(41:47):
Duck Godli Show. My guess is that Fox said, hey,
we'll pay more money, but we need to adjust this
schedule right and maybe lengthen the schedule. We need to
have more games, teams coming off of buys, we'll more money,
we want the product to be better. I think it's
a reasonable ask. Then be really smart business if they
could do it as such. There's one quarterback this weekend

(42:07):
that didn't get any playing time and should have. I'll
prove it to you next in the Doug Gotla Show, Boom,
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Los Angeles, California. Welcome in eight seven seven nine one one.
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(42:27):
Salam's gonna join us. Um. You hear him on weekends
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Uh in studio upcoming. That was meant to be funny anyway, Um,
e from's laughing. The guys aren't laughing because they have
no idea what that means. Anyway. Uh. Look, I I'm

(42:48):
a very pragmatic person. What I appreciate about Bill Belichick
is that he is the master pragmatist. Do the Patriots
run of three four? Yes? Do they run a four three? Yes?
How is that possible? Because it depends, right, Like when
you get to when you when you get players, you're like, well,
how are they going to use him? They just do

(43:09):
what's their game plan? It just depends. And college basketball,
the guy who's best at this is Bill Self, right.
Bill self is won thirteen straight Big twelve titles, probably
gonna win a fourteen. Bill Self is the ultimate pragmatist. Now,
you have to have the talent in order to be
a pragmatic coach, right, and you also have to have

(43:30):
intelligent players to be because and you have to have
intelligent coaching staff. Like, look, the old school coaching philosophy
is we do what we do well and make them adjust.
Like that sounds greass, that's great, that's that sounds great.
But here's the problem. Sometimes they do right, sometimes they
do and sometimes they match up to what you do well.

(43:50):
And sometimes they actually do what you do well better
than you do. Oh right, there seems to be a
reason that Belichick, there seems to be a reason that
Bill self, there seems to be a reason that that's
Saban right, that the Sabans of the world, that they

(44:10):
win so many, why do they win some any more
of these things? I mean, even Greg Popovich, I don't
know if you guys saw this. Did you guys see it?
There's an article out of San Antonio that over the
weekend the Spurs lost, but there's a passing of the torch.
Do you guys, guys know this. Tony Parker is gonna
come out the bench now. Jon Murray's officially the starting
point guard and Tony Parker like came after the games, like, yeah,

(44:31):
Pop came up to me thirty minutes for the game
and said it's time. But the true story of Gregg
Popovitch isn't just that all the players buy in like
they do with all these other places. I've said is
Gregg Popovich's system has evolved. When they first want a title,
they had David Robinson, who is a true center. They
had h Tim Duncan, who came in and played power forward.

(44:52):
Then David Robinson retired, Tim Duncan became the center, and
every time they want a title, they've run a different
dial of offense. They just have based upon the personnel.
He's a pragmatist, right. It's it's a lot like the
best presidents. The rest presidents aren't Republicans, are democrats. They're pragmatists.

(45:16):
They're just things that you have to do regardless of
party because it's best for country. Right. So I think
that Look, everybody likes Mike Zimmer, right, Mike Zimmer is
like an old time kind of grinder defensive coordinator lifer right.
And I mean I fell in love with Zimmer first

(45:37):
time I remember seeing was hard Knocks with the Cincinnati Bengals.
You're like, man, I like that guy. Why can't I
gotta be a head coach? But Mike Zimmer's old school
ties did not allow him to think in a new
school way, which is how do you win this damn game?
The Vikings were down seven really after the half and

(46:00):
after the first possession, and it was bad. And I
don't know if the Vikings would have come back and
win the game. But I do know that one of
the things the Vikings have that no one else has
currently in the NFL is not one, not two, but
three starting quarterbacks. They got three Teddy Bridge, what are

(46:21):
not active? Sam brad from the backup case, Keenum, the
former third stringer, became backup, became starter, right, And I'm
not blaming it all on Keenum. Wasn't all The first
interception wasn't his fault. Fumble probably wasn't his fault. But
you have Sam Bradford over there, why not use him?

(46:46):
Why not pull the nick saban? Why just thought we
had to throw the ball in a game, and I
thought he could do it better. Um, you know so,
and he did. He did a good job. He makes
some plays in the passing game. So it's it's a
great one. Man. I'm so happy for all Alabama fans, right,
for our players. Unbelievable, right, Remember remember he made have

(47:09):
made the call at halftime, He's like, you know what,
we gotta throw the ball better and I have a
backup quarter. And you're like, well that's college, Doug. You
can't do the the pros. Why not? And before you're
hesitant and you're like, well, say Bradford sucks. No, no, okay,
now Sam Bradford. Is he as good as the number
one overall pick? Maybe not? But why do you dislike
Sam Bradford because he got fifty one million guaranteed out
of college? Because when the Eagles drafted him, when the

(47:34):
Eagles drafted Carson went he was like, m hmm, I
went out. Okay, well, obviously he knew the handwriting was
on the wall. He made the right decision. Oh it's
because he always gets hurt. Okay, Like these are all
fair valid criticism. They have nothing to do with whether
or not he gives you a better opportunity to win
one half one game. Here's all you need to know. Right,

(47:59):
They will both be on the market this summer. Sam Bradford,
case Keenum, maybe Teddy Bridgewater. They all be on the market.
And the guy that people would if you said, hey,
I only need him for one game. It's not close.
It's not close. It would be Sam Bradford. It is
not even close. The Cowboys did the same thing last year. Okay,

(48:24):
they went down with Dak Prescott, and you know what
they're like, Oh, well we started him, so he's going
like Dak Prescott in five years. Might be better than
Tony Romo, might have better health than Tony Romo. Not
might not get hurt when the wind blows wrong like
Tony Romo. But to win the Super Bowl Tony Romo
last year gave you a better shot. You know why, guys,
they's got better quarterback. And Sam Bradford might not have

(48:48):
won the game, but in one game, you know, like, look,
he like the likely that he gets hurt doesn't matter.
If he gets hurt. You put case Kenam back in.
You were gonna win anyway. Case Keenum didn't have it.
Nobody thought he had it. He didn't have the arm
for that. Can't play outdoors. There's a reason he's up back.
And like, man, why is it that you see him
throw those lollipops? Even indoors in Minnesota? The one that

(49:12):
uh Stefan Diggs Cotton ran back, it was a miracle.
Why was the miracles, a miracle the ball even got there, Like, man,
that ball is hanging in the air a little bit
too long. You don't like Bradford because he got he
was the last signing boastpin it. That's fine. You don't
like Bradford because he wanted to Philadelphia, that's fine. You
don't want Bradford because he always gets hurt. Also fine,

(49:33):
But she actually had a shot to invigorate your team.
And oh yeah, by the way, it's the Eagles. Hey,
who was it? Who remind me? Whold on? Let me
think here. There was a team that signed Sam Bradford
to a contract, promised him that he was going to
be their quarterback and he was gonna have a home
and then like a month later, made a trade and

(49:56):
drafted Carson Wentz in the draft. Was that? Holy hell?
That was the Eagles. So you have a motivated, healthy
Sam Bradford will Yeah. By the way, best game Sam
Bradford has ever played in the NFL was Week one
of this season. It ain't like he's new to the team.
Nick Saban made the play, made the change because he's

(50:17):
got some nuts and zimmer. And just like the Cowboys
last year, they went down with Hey, he got us here. Great.
You want to win the game? You know, want win
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(50:42):
The Milwaukee Bucks every port of the fired head coach
Jason Kidd after three and a half seasons Bucks right
now dropping to the eight spot in the East. There
twenty three and twenty two on the season, one hundred
and thirty nine games in his three and a half
seasons in Milwaukee, but a winning percentage under five hundred,
despite leading the team to the playoffs twice during those
three and a half seasons. Jason Kidd out today is

(51:03):
the Bucks head coach? Uh will they go and get
that's fascinating. The guys that own the Bucks now used
to run Madison Square Guarden used to be there New
York or New York guys. They have a new arena
that's set to open I think next year, and they
have jiannas and too dakompo um m hmm. By the way,

(51:25):
they get Eric Bledsoe and they've gotten worse right, shock
of that happened? Not not not shocked at all anyway.
Fascinating stuff in the NBA tyron is now does Tyrone
Luke get fired? I mean, how bad has their effort been?
Oh my god, more on NBA stuff to come. We'll
get you more insight as to what it means who

(51:47):
replaces him. The Bucks are not interesting, um, if not
for the fact that they have Johannis into Dakopo, right,
if not for having one of the young burgeoning stars,
albeit one who can't shoot at all. And maybe it
was his success early in the season which ended up
kind of making the Bucks think they were better, because
if you actually look at the Bucks, guys, record's like, okay,

(52:08):
they're a little bit about five hundred, like a little
bit lower than I thought. I guess he couldn't throw
Lawrence Frank under the bus for this one right when
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(54:19):
Jeff Passing from Yahoo Sports has slow motion on his
Twitter feed of that Eagles fan getting wrecked by the
pole trying to China run and catch the subway, and like, look,
if you're not on social media, that's okay, what's wrong?
With you, but you should. This is what social media
should be used for, Okay, not for throwing out racist
slurs or homophobic stuff, or not even for trying to

(54:42):
fight every fight, uh for our democracy, Like I get it,
your pro or anti Trump got it. This is what
it should be used for some drunk, idiot Eagle fan
running after a subway that's not gonna stop and just
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called find the Poll twenty five dollars for what all
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other voice you hear is e from Salam of course,
thirteen year NFL VET and you can hear them on
weekends on Fox Sports Radio. Um, was there ever a point, ever,
a point to which you like, you know what, I

(55:22):
think the Jags are gonna pull it out? Not? No,
And I picked them. I picked him to win. I
picked him to win. So come on, come on, dude.
They were the in the first half. You're like, um,
they're better than the Patriots, absolutely, and then in the okay,
but they still the Patriots are down ten the fourth
quarter and had and you're like, it did kind of

(55:46):
because you know who the opposing quarterback was on the
other sideline. But I saw the Miami Dolphins when when
they didn't have Rob Gronkowski. I saw on my television
screen the Miami Dolphins completely dismantle this pat Its offense
when they didn't have Grounk, Like you know, they just no,
I'm just I'm just saying, like in my mind, I

(56:08):
was like, well, the Jaguars are much better than the Dolphins,
And I just I don't who is he going to
throw too? There's no there's there's there's there's no Gronkowski,
there's no Edelman. Like Amendola is like a bad version
of Welker who's like a I mean a bad version
of Edelman, who's like a not quite as good version
of Welker. Right, So you're like, it's like Multiplicity Murder

(56:31):
that movie. Uh, And Amendola is like a copy of
a copy of a copy. The more copies, the dumber
they are, right uh. And then you know you gotta
but and then you're like the defense can slow them
down but can't really stop, and they're not going to
give him a chance. Then I canna give Blake Burls
a chance to lose this game. He's not gonna throw
a pick. They're not gonna score off their defense. I

(56:53):
don't know. I just I didn't actually think it would happened,
But I was starting to doubt my conviction by which
I thought the Patriot to win. I knew for a
fact the end of the half Patriots going score touchdown, right,
I said, Oh, this game has changed. It's changed. It's different.
Now Jacksonville gets the ball, they elect to take a knee.

(57:15):
We're happy. Seconds, We're happy. We're gonna go on in right.
First of all, we won the first half the first half.
Ells Coat, by the way, would put up a banner
if they won the first half. But go ahead. But
those are the type of signs when I'm watching the
team play against jackson against New England, that oh, they

(57:37):
they're not gonna they can't pull us off. But you
have everything has to go right right. They were marred
on that scoring drive by by penalty after penalty, and
then I'm thinking, I'm like, okay, well it's starting to
fall apart. Spincters are getting a little tight. So they
come out Jacksonville comes out in the in the second half,

(58:00):
and it just to me it didn't look like the
same team New England. Belichick known for making tremendous adjustments,
especially on the defensive side of the ball. Tom Brady
is who he is. It. You could be out there
running routes and he'll make sure he got it to
you in the position the way you can catch it
and fall forward for some yards. Hey, I'm a six

(58:21):
ft guy. Actually, I could be out there receivers like
they do. Are c p a s right he has
He has a whole crew of CPAs out there scoring touchdowns. Um.
And so when I'm looking at that not having grunkowskyos
like they didn't they want a Super Bowl as you
without him. But okay, it was fine. Had two touchdowns

(58:44):
the fourth quarter, right, So when you need it, when
you talk about comparing quarterbacks and who's on the opposite sideline,
when you knew Jacksonville could not get a first down,
you knew what was gonna happen. It was no question
whatsoever that Tom Brady being down by three was going

(59:05):
to drive them down the field and not get a
field goal, but get a touchdown. You knew it in
your heart. We all knew it. Jacksonville knew it. New
England knew it, so it wasn't a surprise to me.
If you don't continue to score points, Yes, that that
is actually that did you know that you're not gonna
win the game? It's a great point and we saw
that from the Eagles. The Eagles. Eagles let their nuts

(59:27):
hang right, they kept kept We're gonna keep putting points
on the board, which is, by the way, is any
time you've seen teams with a big lead in basketball,
you know, if you don't everybody focus, you focus on
your defense. Yes, but you gotta you gotta score. You
gotta keep scoring because that also takes some pressure off
the defense because now the defense will take chances that
they wouldn't normally take because they don't think their offense

(59:48):
can score. Uh. You mentioned adjustments. I need football words.
I need words that we don't normally use in English
and in English language to tell me exactly what they did.
You're like they made adjustments. Got it explained to me
how they can How they shut down a running game
that seemed to be unshut downable in the first half.
First half, it was a lot of misdirection. Jacksonville had

(01:00:10):
an excellent game plan, came out misdirection. Uh, everybody was
focused in on for net. Next thing, you know, number
thirty gets the ball. Where did he come from? He's phenomenal.
Out of the back field, fake the draw, throw the screen,
pass back across. They were attacking New England on the outside,
outside of the numbers. The adjustment was, Okay, we're not

(01:00:31):
gonna let them get outside of us. If they're gonna
run the ball, they have to run it in the middle.
So instead of going to a three four, we're gonna
go to a four three. We're gonna push our our
defensive ends out and we're gonna contain that running game.
So now they have to attack us in the teeth
of the defense. They switch from a fourth, they go,

(01:00:51):
They go back and forth, depending on what they can exploit.
These are the type of adjustments that we're talking about.
And you see one sideline doing them, and then you
see the other sideline not responding to him. We saw
him in the last big game New England played in
the Super Bowl. It's the same thing. If you don't

(01:01:12):
continue to attack New England, make them uncomfortable, and you
sit back on your laurels. Okay, we got nine minutes left,
we're up by ten. All we have to do is
just hold on. Take a listen to this. Okay, this
is Doug Barone, head coach of the Jaguars, and he's
kind of explained to everybody what happened. But listen to

(01:01:32):
what he says about the lead that they had. And
I think the word he uses to describe what they
try to do with the lead is perfect. You know,
it's a hard fought game by both teams in all
three phases. Um, you know, we're able to get I
want to say momentum, but we're able to get the lead.
And you know then we we didn't make enough place
to keep the lead or we had an opportunity to

(01:01:54):
end of the game to win it, we weren't able
to do that. Uh yeah, yeah, I wanted to hold
onto the lead. He didn't say like we wanted to
grow the lead. We want to get momentum and then
we want to hold on the lead. You want to
go Dean Smith went four corners, right, But remember people
forget Dean Smith was I don't know if you remember. Okay,

(01:02:15):
so Dean Smith was famous for the four corners offense.
He's famous for a lot of things that coach Michael
Jordan He's also the only guy to hold Michael Jordan
below twenty points of game right, and he was his coach.
But Dean Smith only won two titles. God bless him.
He's a great coach and by all accounts, a great
human being. Okay, but part of the flaw in Dean
Smith was they would get a lead and go to
four corners. Do you know how many national championships they

(01:02:37):
one running four corners, not one, Not a single N's championship.
They won two championships because one they Jordan had a
shot and Freddie Brown threw it to James Worthy. Freddie
Brown played for Georgetown. He actually threw it to James Worthy,
threw it to the wrong team. Okay. The other one
they won because Chris Webber called the time out he
didn't have. That's how they won two titles. Because Dean

(01:02:58):
Smith would have the better team and they'd be better coach,
and then they get to lead, they're like, oh, let's
just hold on the lead. That doesn't work. Um, okay,
too great, too great plays that I need you to
I mean, other than saying they're great plays. Ammondola is
a guy who's always been hurt, right, like always hurt.
The catch he made in the end zone was maybe

(01:03:21):
next to Julio Jones last year or Super Bowl that
Julio catches the best catch I've ever seen in my
entire life. Um, but the catches high and then to
get the right foot and then the left foot down
as the right foot comes up and get the ball
away from hitting the ground like somehow because it's Brady,
I kind of think the catch itself is going to

(01:03:42):
get overshadowed. Uh, definitely, because number one Tom Brady foot
the ball where only it should have been. It couldn't
have been any other place. And before that play was called,
I called it on air live in the studio. I said,
it looks it's a run formation. Everybody thinks it's gonna
be running. I said, play action over the top, touchdown,

(01:04:05):
play action linebacker, step up. I don't know why you're
on the three yard four yard line. Why are you
stepping up a Mendola drag route across the back of
the end zone. Touchdown? Perfect? But Tom Brady didn't even
look anywhere else. It was just a fake straight up
and he just waited. He waited for it seemed like eternity.

(01:04:26):
It seemed like time. It literally seemed like it was
maybe three seconds. It seemed like it was forever, and
he just placed the ball exactly where it needed to
be an a Mendola for c p A a guy
who sells car insurance, are someone who works at tripping
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(01:04:48):
was so fitting. But they practiced this though, this is
this is this is not different. It wasn't special for them.
They practiced these situations every week a year. Um, how
does Stephan Gilmore look like the time he was they
threw to him before before he knocked down the pass
that kind of sealed the game. The play before when

(01:05:10):
they threwout him, he looked like he didn't know where
he was or who he was or where the ball was.
He was like looking up and the ball was there,
and he was just completely lost. And step Found Gilmore
had looked completely lost many times this season. Uh, but
then he makes a spectacular play to seal the game.
Bortles actually threw a pretty good ball. Um, how do

(01:05:31):
how does a guy go for It wasn't a pretty
good ball, it was number one in that situation. Bortles
was scrambling, But you know you have to put air
under the ball, right, Yeah, a little bit more air
to where only what you have. But guess who makes
that play? Thank you? That's what I'm talking about. Like
it wasn't a good pass. It was not because there's

(01:05:52):
a quarterback. I'm looking at that. I know exactly where
the ball has to go and if I don't do it, Hey,
you're right, you're I said something that wasn't correct and
you pointed out and you're right. E from Salam continues
to join us. Uh. We'll find out if anybody else
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the head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks, fired today after
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(01:06:35):
ESPN now, the Bucks right now sitting in the eight
spot on the East There twenty three and twenty two,
they faced the Sun's tonight. Assistant Joe Princey will be
the team's interim head coach now that kid is out.
No Janson teda kumpo by the way for Milwaukee tonight
against the Suns because of his sore knee too playoff
appearances in the three plus years that he was in Milwaukee,
Jason kidd out as the Bucks said coach there was

(01:06:59):
an Cardinals have hired Panthers defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes to
be their new head coach, while Titans defensive coordinator Dick
Lebo won't return to the team under new head coach
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Fox Sports Trade at thirteen year NFL VET, two time
pro bowler joins just Doug Gotlin show Fox Sports Traders
in studio because as he was wandering the street and
muttering to himself, I told you that they we're gonna
pull gonna play action. I told you they're gonna play

(01:08:04):
up play action. So he grabbed him before he could
get arrested by Sherman Oaks police and we put them in,
put him, put a microphone in front of him. What's
your reaction to Eagles vikings? Uh? It just I called
it early on having You know, you gotta look at
we're playing with backup quarterbacks. Okay, so when you look

(01:08:29):
at the situation, you take a third string quarterback, you
take him on the road against another backup quarterback. But
the deciding factor for me being in a situation where
you have to go on the road and you have
to play in it in a championship, get a NFC
championship game. Everything has to be perfect, all right, So

(01:08:51):
Nick Foles is at home, right, they don't have to travel.
Everything says the same. They're arrested, they're ready to go.
They know that elaments. You know Minnesota plays inside, everything
skewed towards and I know Minnesota's defense was was tremendous.
But the fact of the matter is it all boils

(01:09:12):
down to the two quarterbacks on the sideline. One has
everything going in his favor. Right, he's comfortable with the offense,
he's comfortable with the arrangements, no travel, everything stays the same.
The other has to go on the road do something special.
And it's what second start ever in in the in

(01:09:33):
the in the playoffs, huge game, a lot riding on it.
Minnesota will be the first home team ever to play
at home in the Super Bowl. All of those things
way in now. Of course, you get to the stadium,
you have to play the game. Right case, Kingdom came
out looks sharp boom boom, boom boom, right down the field, touchdown.

(01:09:54):
Mike Hill was in here going crazy, case Kingdom, case Keenom.
He's a hater because he's a Giants fan, New York
Giants fans. He would never give Philly any love. I
said about eight weeks ago when Carson Wentz wasn't hurt
if it boils down two Minnesota having going having to
go to Philadelphia for the NFC Championship game. And this

(01:10:16):
is when Carson Wentz was was healthy, Mike Hill still
was saying Eagles didn't have a chance. It was gonna
be a case Keenum And how did I mean? Like,
look they folds. They let Folds take a bunch of
shots down the field. They did. And he also because
they were like, look we're gonna roll it out there.

(01:10:37):
He feels in his mind right, he's a gunslinger. He
said it himself, let me throw the ball. So they
didn't change the game plan to be conservative. They said, look,
we're going to go after them, but they planned against
another backup quarterback, right, So they're like, look, I think
we're better. We're in the better position, we're at home,
we have our fans, we have a better skill positions

(01:10:58):
in terms of running backs, we'll be able to manage
the game. So Nick Foles, go out and do your thing, period,
do your thing. And that's exactly what happened. And they
just kept going. They kept their foot on the neck
of the Vikings and case Kingdom could not do anything
offensively after that first drive. UM so I look, I

(01:11:22):
agree with you, and I think I offered up and
you were sitting here listening intently. I offered up that,
you know what, I why not give Bradford a shot?
And um, A couple of my esteem colleagues texted me there, like,
the problem wasn't the offense. The problem with the defense.
Couldn't stop anybody, But there is a um and if
I'm using the wrong word, you're much smarter than me.

(01:11:43):
A symbiotic relationship between the offense and the defense go
hand in hand for the layman. When when the offense
has nothing right, when you got a quarterback and like
and got it now, all of a a sudden, the defense
is gonna try and take more chances than they normally
would like. Man, we gotta make a play, offense. We
gotta make a play. We gotta score points. And when
you take chances things like the long balls to That's

(01:12:06):
what happens when you see football is played, as we
all know, in three phases, right offense, defense, special teams.
When you have a dominant defense, when your defense is
out there and they're doing what they're supposed to do,
it takes pressure off the offense vice versa. If offense

(01:12:27):
is out there converting on third downs, putting points on
the board, it takes the pressure off the defense. That's
just how it goes. Now, when one of those systems
aren't clicking or aren't working that now, great defense runs
into a situation to where now, like you said, they
gotta try to do more. We gotta try to get

(01:12:47):
the ball. We gotta try to you know, attack balls
instead of playing coverage knocking balls down. Now guys are
looking to intercept to try to get some type of
life into their offense. When you put that much pressure
in that type of game on one side of the ball,
you can't do it, and not unless you have an
all time grade at quarterback, which they did not. They

(01:13:07):
had a third string guy and it was the mountain
had become too tall for him. And and I'm with you,
I would have liked to see Sam Bradford get in there,
and people and and people say, well, like Sam Bradford,
can't you know under that kind of pressure, that kind
of arrest from the Eagles defense. You're right, okay, but
one at this point or who? It didn't matter at
that point. Secondly, the guy led the league in completion

(01:13:30):
all time record completion percentage last season because he had
no offensive line. He does at least get rid of
it quickly, and you give yourself. You give Stefan Digs
a chance to make a play once he gets the football.
But whatever. Okay, So here's the big question. You're the Jaguars.
What do you do? We gotta go find a quarterback? Okay,
but so here are your options? Okay, your options are

(01:13:50):
you know, the Vets that are available. You could trade
for Eli? Okay, but does Eli is Eli washed right?
Or is he an easy washed to the extent where
he's never going to be the aim? You have the
Cousins of the world out there, potentially, go get um.
There's a couple others like that. Or do you draft one.
The problem with drafting one is you're you're ready to

(01:14:13):
win now team and you're drafting a quarterback like Josh
Rosen hasn't stayed healthy for an entire college season, let
alone sixteen NFL games. Like like, I don't know who
you're gonna draft if you have to trade up, or
you're gonna have to draft somebody that you're gonna really
gonna have to develop in order to get one of
the top guys in the draft. They definitely have to
trade up and you know, put some things together. Take

(01:14:33):
away from the team that they have uh assembled already,
so you have to go find a veteran president. I
like the Eli trade. If you put Eli, if you
put Eli Manning on that team right now, by the way,
I proposed week five, and we're having a different conversation today,
right we were having a different conversation. So you have

(01:14:55):
to look at it through those eyes if we would
have had anybody else. You gotta remember, this is the
same guy who had a couple of games this year
where he passed for eighty yards, eighty seven yards, eighty
six yards. They won the game because that defense was
was that great. But that's not that's not a long
term solution. I don't think anybody in Jacksonville, especially Tom Coughlin,

(01:15:15):
thinks that Blake Bortles is a long time solution. If
he would have won that game, he would have made
himself a lot of money. He did not win that game,
all right, so now he falls back into the category
is oh, yeah, he's okay, but we can't win with him.
We can't take it to that next that next level.
And I will tell you this, you heard it here first.
Jacksonville may not make the playoffs next year. They will

(01:15:37):
not even be close to the same team. What when
you have this type of success out of nowhere and
you build something and you feel like this is your
year and you fall short, and that affects you greater
than anything you I mean, plus, you have a you

(01:15:57):
have a first place schedule. They'll never be able. He
used to get j J back. Is Deshaun Watson back
the Colt? And it's not. It's it's this was the
year for you. This everything. You didn't have any starting
quarterbacks in your division period, nobody in your division team
had a starting quarterback. This was the year you had
the best defense, one at the top of the league.

(01:16:19):
This was your year. You fell short. It will never
be the same. Do you feel the same about Minnesota
now they have three quarterbacks, got to pick one or
maybe two. They get Dalvin cookback next year. But but
the the Green Bay Packers get a guy named Aaron
Rodgers back who was pretty good. Bears could be couldn't
be worse than they have been, So do you think
they'd be better? Detroit still solid, but doesn't look like

(01:16:41):
that biggest spike in comparison. But this was also their
year play at home. Look at all the NFC teams.
Odell Beckham is hurt? Uh, the Niners were you know,
the Seahawks raw. We're blown up to the team they
just lost to. Gets Carson Wentz back right like everybody
else is gonna get healthy. Do you say the same

(01:17:01):
thing about the Viking? I do say the same thing
about the Vikings, because number one, they have a serious
decision to make in terms of which quarterback is it
Teddy Bridgewater's team, Is it Sam Bradford's team? Or do
you hand the reins over the case Keendom. Now two
of those guys are backup quarterbacks. One has been a
starter in this league. Got hurt, shouted his leg at
an emotional return. What's the I don't know his state?

(01:17:22):
You don't they know because they practice with him, they
see him every day. Is he capable to bounce back
from that and continue to leave this Vikings team? That's
the decision they're gonna have to make. But we know
to at least two of those guys are gonna be
there because Sam Bradford's gonna want more money and in
Case Keenom is gonna want more money. So what do
you do you pay to our one backup quarterback a
bunch of money? Let ted Teddy Bridgewater uh step back

(01:17:46):
into a starting role? Or do you get rid of
Teddy Bridgewater and Case Keenom and hang on to Sam Bradford.
Either way, none of those quarterbacks moved me in a
sense to say we have our guy for the next
ten years. Mm hmm. And that's a decision that they're
gonna have to make. A from Salam check them out
on the weekend here on Fox Sports Trait. What time

(01:18:07):
are you and Mike Hill on? Two to five Pacific time? Okay, so,
uh five five to eight, you're going to Minnesota. No,
it's cool. I know it's like no one out there, man,
this is this is this is one of those trips
like you're staying for the game, like you gotta go. Yeah,
you go on Sunday, will be there all week, liittany

(01:18:27):
of gas would be great, and then I'll get the
hell out of there. Uh do Now, if you want
me to come with you and do your show with you,
then I'll go. You can do my show with me.
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let's uh, let's get after it. This was uh Colin
Cowherd earlier today on the Vikings. Remember they were thirteen
and three this year. They're gonna pull back now, Yeah,
Minnesota had their opportunity this year for a big good
portion of the year. There was no Aaron Rodgers, Carson Wentz,

(01:20:24):
m v P got hurt, Matt Ryan had a new
offensive coordinator kind of clunky. Seattle and Dallas imploded. You've
got a miracle touchdown at home with no time left
as a Saints defensive back suddenly tackled air. Plus the
Super Bowl was in Minnesota. Vikings, you blew it. Aaron
Rodgers returns next year, so does Carson Wentz. No super

(01:20:48):
Bowl in Minnesota. Jared Goff and Sean McVeigh. Year two,
Jimmy Garoppolo, Kyle Shanahan NFC a full season. Now instead
of a third place schedule, you have a first place schedule.
Let's also remember the Vikings lost their starting quarterback after
starting just a game and a half, right, Uh, They

(01:21:10):
lost Dalvin Cook for the year with a torn a
c l and so, yeah, a lot of things went
their way, but this wasn't the Jaguars where everything went
their way. It just wasn't. Um. I'm gonna disagree in
the idea that the Vikings this was a highly leveraged
year where they'll struggle it n What has made the
Vikings special is that they have they kind of have

(01:21:32):
a Seahawks type of field to them. If you remember
the Seahawks wasn't the first time they made the playoffs.
When they went and won the Super Bowl they had
to get it just right. The problem is that, you know,
what do you do with Potato Bridgewater, What do you
do with Sam Bradford, what do you do with case Keenum?
And if you choose incorrectly like that, one decision does
filter down. Dalvin Cook is special now. I would assume,

(01:21:56):
coming back from an A C L that he'll be
pretty close to the same because mos guys are now.
But that assumption can be dangerous. You put to Alvin
Cook back there. You still have Stefon Diggs, you still
have Adam Feeling, you still have Kyle Rudolph. This was
a rebuilt offensive line that they had to rebuild kind
of on the fly after last year's mass disasters. You
would think it will be better. I think they'll be okay.

(01:22:20):
I don't think this was a this is a flash
in the pan type of team because they saw a
bunch of adversity on their path the NFC champions. All right,
so we've all established that none of us thought the
Jaguar is gonna win. We're gonna win, none of us.
That's a weird feeling. My kids, so we used to

(01:22:41):
live in New England all but two years of their life,
and then this half year they've lived in New England,
and even they were like, are you kidding the Patriots again?
What's weird is I remember a completely different Patriots from
my my childhood. Like my only memory of the Patriots
being any good from when I was a kid, it
was when they took on the Bears and the Super

(01:23:02):
Bowl Shuffle team. Right. Steve Grogan was their quarterback who
played in the Super Dome, and they wore those hideous
old red jerseys with the Patriot and the three points
stands inside of their helmet, right, And the only controversy
from that game was William the Refrigerator. Perry got to
run in a touchdown where Walter Payton, one of the
all time great human beings to play football, never touched

(01:23:24):
the ball around, you know, never got to leap over
the pile into the end zone. That's the only thing
outside that was a complete asswhoppon Alright, coming up next,
Gillette Stadium has become a Yankee stadium. Wait what, I'll
explain it to you. That's up coming next to the
Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. What up s Doug

(01:23:46):
Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio? Man, we got a ton
of things to get to whether it's uh Yankee Stadium
or you're playing at Duke or you know, we used
to They have this thing at the University of Oklahoma.

(01:24:08):
They call it Sooner Magic, right, called Sooner Magic, and
it just always feels like in the fourth quarter, Oklahoma
plays Oklahoma State and somehow Sooner magic, something's gonna go
their way and they're gonna win. If you can kind
of clear your mind on the past couple of years,
and you remember when the Yankees had Mario and Rivera,

(01:24:30):
and to a certain extent, this happened. It didn't happen
with my Angels when I was an Angel fan, the
one that this happened when the Angels would play the
Red Sox. But a lot of times it would happen
to Yankee Stadium, to which you'd have a lead and
or be a tie game, and you should have all

(01:24:50):
the confidence in the world that you're gonna win the game.
And yet, for whatever reason, those last three ounce in
Yankee Stadium were so much harder to get than any
other three ounce. Do you ever notice that, man, we
can't get these guys out. It's it's one of the
things that makes the Red Sox red Sox didn't just
come back from three games to none down to beat

(01:25:11):
the Yankees. They came from three games to none down
to beat the Yankees with Mariano Rivera right, Like, that's
what makes it remarkable. There's something about these championship teams.
Rudy tom Jonovitch used to say, you never underestimate the
heart of a champion. Remember that when they went back
to back NBA titles. Never underestimate the heart of a champion.

(01:25:36):
But I don't even think that's it. I don't think
it's a heart. Um. We talked about a lot of
things when we cover sports we do. We talked about players,
and my least favorite type of analysis is they're really
stepped up up. You're gonna step up. Somebody's gonna have
to step up. He didn't step up. That guy stepped up,
the team stepped up. They won the game. Thanks, it's

(01:25:57):
great analysis, Joe, Okay, Dave back to you, they stepped up.
You're turning to step up because I talked about them
stepping up, right, You're like, hmm, that really told me something.
Now we can all assume we know what stepping up is,
but there's a lot more to it, right, there's adjustments,
there's schematics, there's matchups, there's health. Like, all of these

(01:26:18):
play a factor. Conditioning plays a factor, right, Culture places
a factor. Right, This is a culture of a listen
this game. Culture of toughness and confidence plays a factor.
And I'm telling you that wasn't a lack of confidence

(01:26:39):
at all on the sideline Newing and Patriots. Why because
they expected to win the game. They would they weren't
surprised that they were down, but they also had no
thought that they weren't gonna win. And uh, it's it
was like Yankee Stadium for so many years, the old

(01:27:00):
Yankee Stadium, especially right when the Yankees were great, or
even when they weren't that good. How many if you're
a Minnesota Twins fan, how many times you go and
play them in the playoffs. You're like, we're better team.
And then they hit the run in the bottom the
ninth inning because you couldn't in a tie game, or
you'd have a lead and um, all of a sudden,
you'd hit a guy to start to ninth you know,

(01:27:22):
guy gets on an air, two runners on, they get
down to two outs and they hit a two run
double and they beat you. Something about places like Yankee Statium.
There's something about a team like Duke to which you
think they're dead and buried and they're not. They just
they're not going away. Was Sooner magic or Yankee magic
or Duke magic or whatever. They just don't think they're

(01:27:44):
going to lose. And maybe it's their level of preperadus.
Maybe it's the amount of times they've been in big games. Right,
there's something too. When you're in New England, you're a
Patriot even though you haven't played you've only played one
postseason game this year, like Stefanio Moore, he came home
from the Bills. He hadn't played in big games. Right, Um,

(01:28:05):
But the fact is that all the rest of those guys,
any time you take the field as a Patriot, you're
the other team's biggest game. This happens with Duke, this
happens with the Yankees. You may not get their playoff
level of intensity, but you'll get a higher level of
competitiveness from the other team in the regular season than
anybody else will. Why, Because that's what that's what that's

(01:28:26):
what your name brings. Everybody brings their best effort because
the stands are full their family flies in town, taking
people fight over. People feed off of that. And just
like those last three outs were hardest to get against
the Yankees, the same can be said for getting the
Patriots out of the playoffs. Don't believe me. I give

(01:28:47):
you the Atlanta Falcons last year. I give you the
Jacksonville Jaguars this year. I mean even the Seahawks in
the Super Bowl. Right, Like I tend to believe that
the Patriots screwed up when Malcolm Butler picked off Russell

(01:29:12):
Wilson the Super Bowl, I think the Patriots screwed up.
If you remember the game, the Patriots just gone down
and score, taking the lead Russell Wilson. They started chopping
away at the clock, but the Patriots had time outs
left and they chose not to use any of them.
Now we can look back and go like Belichick knew
what he was doing. He knew that they didn't want
to leave themselves with a little time in the clock,

(01:29:32):
and because it was running, he knew they were gonna
throw it like that's too risky. He was trying to
save time outs in case they got the ball back,
where the smarter strategy probably would have been let the
Seahawks score, give it to Tom Brady with some time outs,
and then Tom Brady can figure it out right like
he's the he's the best at that. But they got
caught in between do we take time outs? Do we

(01:29:53):
not take time outs? We got caught there, and the
Seahawks did him a solid by choosing not just throw
the football, but throw the football in the middle of
the field, and he gets batted up and intercepted and
the rest, of course, is history. But the Seahawks learned,

(01:30:15):
what the Falcons learned, what the Jaguars learned. Those last
three outs are a bit. They just are like, man,
because these guys they just think they're it's and and
no one likes those Those teams are like that. Nobody,
nobody likes those teams like that. Kansas basketball is like
that right now in the Big Twelve right if you

(01:30:37):
haven't been following college basketball, Kansas there their best freshman recruit, UH,
Billy Preston. He never got to play. He got a
car accident on campus and they're like, who's the car
belong to? Uh? They did some investigating. He was held
out of competition and he didn't have an answer, So
he went and played in Slovenia. They're town is just okay.

(01:31:01):
The league is really good. They should have been beaten
at home by Iowa State. Didn't. Should have been eaten
beaten by at home by Cans State. Didn't. Should they
were dead to rights beaten by West Virginia on the
road last week. Didn't. Should have been beaten at home Baylor,
no call goes their way. Didn't. But you know what,
Kid's gonna win the damn Big twelve again, you know,
i because they just try and going to fag out

(01:31:21):
in field house and close out that game. Those last
four minutes seemed like they last like twenty. It seems
like it lasts until they have one more point than
you do, and then all of a sudden, the clock
starts moving at at double the normal rate. It's it's
the thing about sports um that is so incredible, so magical.

(01:31:43):
Winners win like does the dumbest statement ever, Okay, but
it's true. Winners just find a way to win. You
know the most impressive thing about Michael Jordan's is not
all the scoring titles. It's he went to the NBA
finals six times and he won six times, right, And

(01:32:07):
and they're like people like, oh, he never played a
game seven. You damn right, he didn't, you know, And
to anybody who's critical of it, like, okay, he beat
the Lakers with Magic Johnson Byron Scott James Worthy in
five like go back Portland's Trail Blazers. I think that

(01:32:29):
one might have been a sweeper for maybe in five
right Blazers, Sonics Jazz twice, Phoenix Suns closed the mount
in Phoenix, Utah Jazz closed them Ount in Utah twice.
Like they're just something about these the guys that win.
They're just like I'm winning. That's it. I'm winning and

(01:32:51):
and and and this is the and this is part
of the Mike Tyson thing that's ruined. Is we now
look at Mike Tyson has hangover, Mike Yson, rapist, Mike
Tyson um kind of walking punchline, bite Evander Holyfield's ear
off Mike Tyson before Mike Tyson went to jail for rape.
He won the fight before the fight ever began, Like

(01:33:13):
they go ding ding, like this thing is over and
it would have been you could cook an egg to it.
By the way, rama was, how do you how do
you how do you soft bull and egg? What's your
just drop it into some hot water. Five minutes. Uh,
five minutes sounds about good. Let that shell crack, just

(01:33:33):
the tad the shell cracks. Yeah, you put don't you
put it? You put it in with the show, right
and okay, just right? It cracks a little bit, and
then you take it out and then you break it open.
Wait wait, wait, the show cracks when it's cooked. I
didn't know that it does when it gets really hot,
and if it's been in there too long, it'll start
to crack. Now do you do soft boiled or hard boiled?

(01:33:54):
Which one was that? Sorry? I caught romas to the
tough moment? Mm hmm, yeah, yeah right. It's like Doug
Marone on why he didn't try to do anything risk
reward end of the first half to get the ball

(01:34:17):
fifty five seconds ago. I thought, for what they do
coverage wise and what we had to do. We had
the lead and they had just scored. I just didn't
want to put ourselves in position for something negative. I
wanted to get in leading at the half. I didn't
think it was a great situation that we have been
great at during the year. I thought the risk and

(01:34:38):
the reward for us at the moment time was let's
go in and make an adjustment. Let's get ourselves going,
let's take the lead in the half. That's exactly what
I thought, right or wrong? You're wrong? I mean they
last time I checked, they do not give out do
they give out trophies for first half wins? This is

(01:34:59):
not the CB. Do you guys remember the old cb
A Buyer Kentuck, Can I guarantee buyer knows this right?
That the old the old c b A I used
to have part of their points and to make the playoffs,
you gotta you get a point for winning each quarter,
like you trying to win a quarter. You get a
point for winning a quarter, not a point in the
scoreboard of pointing the standings. Right, It's almost like Doug

(01:35:22):
Maron's like, hey, we won the first half. Huh, guys, listen,
we get a first half championship banner. Do you remember
that buyer the the points standing in? Yes, yes, very
It's it's blurry, but not that you're talking more about it.
It rings a bell. You're lying, well, but all a
bunch of liars. Uh what's his name? Ramos had no

(01:35:43):
idea what I was talking about. When I was like
sucking an egg. He's like five minutes, sure, and then
the egg crash buyer, how do you? How do you
soft blown egg? What's your what's your routine? Gosh, I don't.
I've never soft boiled, really, I only eat them scrambled
or sunny side up. Well matches your stunning personality music,

(01:36:03):
How do you soft boiling egg? I would have to
do that for the first time in my life in
order to know how that's done. Yeah, I'm a dan.
I'm just a scrambled eggs guy, or sometimes hard boiled.
But even then I'm like, almost you soft boil egg?
Hard boiling egg? Yeah, I think it was hard boiled. Okay,
So here's a here's a soft bullet. The soft ball

(01:36:24):
is you when you cook it enough, you cook it
to just the right spot. Um, you open it up
and the white is stiff, okay, almost like hard boiled
level stiff, But the yoke is cooked but still very yoki. Right,
that's why it's called soft boiled. Pull a little salt
in their delicious. So you just have to have the timing. Actually,

(01:36:47):
it's it's a very it's a very hard thing to
time soft bo There's two ways to do it. So
five minutes was too long, then well, no, five minutes
is actually perfect. You either do you either put it
in before the water is boiling, and when the water
comes to will boil, you have to know it's for
a minute. A minute after it's boiling, you take it out,
or you put it in after the water is boiling,
and you do it for five minutes. Okay, and then

(01:37:10):
depending on if you want it, some people like it
runnier a little less than five minutes, some people like
it a little bit more cooked a little bit more
than five minutes. But five minutes is the overunder soft
ball and egg. But you guys have been music like
your single buyer was single forever. I don't know how
you guys don't know, like you never thought of other way.
I think it's also called poaching an egg, not just
soft balls, poaching an egg. I think that's how you

(01:37:32):
poach an egg. When I was single, I didn't get
up till eleven. But dude, you work in radio like
eggs are inexpensive, right, like eggs and beans like waves,
straincheros like eggs, beans cheese that didn't cost you very much? Right,
A thing of eggs is like if you go down
to CBS and get it. But you know what's also
great about eggs? But you just crack them and put

(01:37:55):
them in the pantics are cooking them and they're ready
in three minutes. Okay, do you like your soft? You
liked your scrambled eggs? Running or dry? A little bit
on the running side. What about you buy dry? What
about you? I'm with I'm with Ryan. I like him moist.
I like oh moist, moisty is moist is in an

(01:38:16):
innocuous word. We're talking about eggs. But I understand that's
my pegs Listen's point. Moist is such an innocuous word.
But if you say it, everybody laughs. Right, you just
say moist. I like it moist. He's right, I know exactly.
That's how I like my eggs moist. But moist the
kind of word where you say it around a home.

(01:38:37):
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(01:41:16):
Patriots beat writer for the Boston Globe. Ben, I I
actually like in closing out the Patriots in in Foxboro
to what it used to be to try and close
out the Yankees when they had Mario and Rivera in
Yankee Stadium. Uh, there's just as a I don't know
like and maybe it's because we're watching on TVs who
are disconnected from the feelings and the stands or on
the sideline, but just a sense of, man, the one

(01:41:38):
team is getting tight and the other team expects to win.
What did it feel like inside Jillette Stadium? Yeah, I'd
say there was definitely some fingernail chewing from Patriots fans
throughout most of the game. But at the same time,
like we've all seen this movie how many times from
the Patriots and and even trailing by ten in the
fourth quarter, you know, not to get too far ahead

(01:41:58):
of yourself. Plenty of game left. Blake Bartoles is on
the other sideline. He's still gonna have to kill the
clock and execute some long drives. Uh. And then once
the Patriots got on the board at twenty to seventeen,
you could just feel all the momentum in the stadium
shift towards the Patriots. Uh. If we hadn't just seen
them do it in February of the Falcons with such
dramatic with such a dramatic comeback, I think obviously it

(01:42:21):
would have been more harrowing for Patriots fans. But like
ten points in the fourth quarter, I mean, they did
that to the Seahawks, they did to the Falcons, that's
nothing for the Patriots. Okay. Um, Doug Marons come out
and said like, hey, look, we had the lead, want
to go in with the lead at halftime, and we
didn't want to put ourselves in a disadvantag advantageous situation.
But they were getting the ball back, Like why not

(01:42:42):
take a shot on first and second down to see
if you get a first down and then decide if
you want to take a knee on third down seconds
ago in the first half with a lead after the
Patriots score, felt like they were giving up momentum and
playing to not lose. Is that the feeling you had
as well? I got the feeling that they were playing
with Blake Bortles as their quarterback, and they're on their
own twenty five yard line. There's fifty something seconds left.

(01:43:05):
Maybe they could have gotten into field goal range, or
maybe they throw a couple in complete passes. They don't
take too much time off the clock, and they give
Brady and the Patriots one more chance at the last
gas field goal, which we've seen them do. They sneak
it in, you know, a fifty five yard right at
the gun when it looks like the games headed to halftime.
So obviously I think if you have a better quarterback,
you make that play there. But I don't mind what

(01:43:27):
Doug Marone did there, especially with the Jaguars getting the
ball back to start the third quarter. What really killed
them was taking that delay of game delay of game
penalty out of the time out late in the second quarter.
They're driving, it's it's fourteen to three. They could easily
tackle on another field goal. Instead, this delay of game
penalty takes them out of field goal range. They punt,

(01:43:48):
Then the Patriots go down and make it fourteen tense.
That was a big swing right there. It was it
was it was a big swing, um. And what was
what they do differently this time with Gronk out? Last
time Gronk was out, it was the Miami game. It
was a disaster. This time it didn't have nearly as
disastrous to feel offensively in the second half. What changed?

(01:44:09):
What changed was the um Jacksonville Jaguars decided not to
get up in the Patriots faces. Very strange if you
watch the Patriots this year, Uh, they do not have
the most physical receivers outside of Gronk, and when you
press man them, they haven't been able to fight off
the line of scrimmage. That Miami game was a prime
example that Daving Howard was just all up in Brandon
Cooks's business. Then you go back and watch yesterday's game,

(01:44:31):
a j Boyer and the Jaguars defense, they're giving him
eight to ten yards of cushion at the line of scrimmage,
giving them free releases and letting the receivers kind of
do whatever they want and getting position off the line
of scrimmage, and Brandon Cooks was just chewing them up underneath.
And then you know they they got favorable matchups against
his own matching up Danny of the Amundola against linebackers.

(01:44:52):
Both touchdowns were that way. Uh So the Jaguars, just
I was very baffled that they played so far back
and off the Patriots receivers and didn't get physical with them, Yeah,
which which we always thought that we were always you know,
told that's how you beat him, right, timing based offense
might be super physical, and then you got to get
to Brady, get him off his spot. And they did neither.

(01:45:12):
They they did neither. No, they didn't and and maybe
maybe a joy and maybe that's not his game, but
you think they had just a little bit, especially in
the AC Championship. Well also, here's just the thought, right,
like if one guy's killing boy A, then go put
put Jalen Ramsey on him, right, Like I don't I
don't really understand, like a j Boye was playing so
far off him that, Okay, maybe he can't keep up

(01:45:34):
with him. If you have the best cornerback in the
National Football League and most people think that Jalen Ramsey
is that guy. And he was previously gonna match up
with Gronk, and Gronk's not in like, here's the thought,
put him on the guy that's killing you, right, Yeah,
it almost makes too much sense sometimes, doug One, one
would think how bad was Brady's hand? Really by game time,

(01:45:55):
I don't think it was that bad. I think on
Wednesday they were really worried, and I'm see, when he's
missing a Thursday practice, that's that's a real injury. And
apparently he was gushing blood and had twelve stitches in
his thumb, but he avoided like a major um ligament damage,
which was key. Uh, the stitches are fine whatever, You
can kind of stitch them up and cover it up

(01:46:15):
with that black tape. But if if you don't have
a grip with your thumb, that's really an effect you're throwing.
And I didn't see any effect on him yesterday. He
was making the d throws, the sideline throws, great accuracy,
had some good zip, was taking snaps from under center.
So I think by Sunday the Patriots medical staff did
a nice job of taping it up and figuring out
a way to minimize that hand. The Patriots are known

(01:46:37):
the NFL has been the best waiver wire team in
the history of the league. Isn't that made even more
obvious with James Harrison's contribution yesterday. Harrison is a good player,
no doubt. I don't know what the Steelers were doing
this year that that defense. They could have used him
against the Jaguars. It seemed like a couple of weeks ago.
And you know, the Patriots don't asked Harrison to do
too much. But he played thirty two snaps the other day,

(01:46:58):
and um, he's not just rushing the past or he's
playing the run. He's dropping in his own coverage. He
still has some some football left at thirty nine, So
he'll be a fun story for us to follow. Uh
come Super Bowl Week and I can't believe that he's
still alive and playing in the Super Bowl while the
Steelers are watching from their couches. Ben boll And joined
us in the Boston Globe. Okay, a couple of things

(01:47:18):
kind of quickly. Gronkles with a concussion. Reports are that
they're they're they're hopeful, So that means it wasn't that
severe concussion or he doesn't have that that severe that
bigger brain to Concusso begin with well you said the
second part not me, Doug, but uh, I mean you
never know with these concussions. I remember Luke Keikley was
out like four or five games towards the end of

(01:47:39):
last season. But I would think with two weeks in
between games that Gronk should probably be ready to go.
How do you think they match up with the Eagles?
How do they think they match up with the Eagles?
Very similar to this Jacksonville game. I think you've got
a great defense that's gonna test the Patriots, and I
think they'll probably get a little more physical with the Patriots.
And you've got an offense, obviously with a limited quarterback,
but a talented play caller and some some good players

(01:48:02):
around the quarterback. And I think they're gonna keep the
Patriots up at night with some of the trickery and
misdirection and all the things that they do on offense.
So I think it's gonna be a similar game, and
I think it'll be a drag out, you know, very
close battle. We're gonna focus on the quarterbacks, Brady versus
Fold and that seems like a mismatch. But the Eagles
are a very complete team, and I think they'll give
the Patriots a good run. I do. I do as well.

(01:48:22):
Ben Bolton. We'll see him in the Twin Cities off
to the Super Bowl covering the Patriots. Yet again, it's
getting to be old hat, Ben, Thanks so much for
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(01:48:47):
firing today in the NBA. What do you Got? And
mat firing occurred in Milwaukee as the Bucks have fired
head and coach Jason Kidd after three and a half seasons.
Bucks right now in the eight spot on the East Conference.
That's just twenty three and twenty two high expectations in
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(01:49:08):
assistant coach Jill Printy, who has been named as the
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Kid lasted three and a half seasons, took him to
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(01:49:29):
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dates back to the Arizona Cardinals have hired Panthers defensive

(01:49:49):
coordinator Steve Wilkes to be their new head coach. Report
say Wilkes will get a four year deal with a
fifth year option to replace Bruce Arians. Titans defensive coordinator
Dick Lebo won't return to the team under new head coach.
Like vrabel Well, Cleveland dot Com says that Todd Haley
is close to being the new offensive coordinator for the
Cleveland Browns. And finally, Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater told reporters

(01:50:09):
today he wants to be a starting quarterback. In of course,
the Vikings have three quarterbacks whose contracts wrap up this
season Bridgewater, Case Keenum and Sam Brattford Doug, I don't
like it. What don't you like? I just I needed
I need a day, I need a couple of days.
I don't. I don't like it. Teddy Um, I don't.
I don't like it. And look, and I understand, I

(01:50:32):
totally understand Teddy bridge Water wants to be a starter.
What he probably should have said is, I want to
be a starter here. There's a there's a way in
which you can. Hey, look, I want to be a
starter here. This team drafted me, this team we took that,
we went to the playoffs two years ago. They stood
by me when I tore my knee. Would be really
it would be especially to be a starter, even more
special to be a starter here. But they just lost.

(01:50:55):
Take a breath, Like, I understand. There's the I'm a
too soon guy a lot of times on Twitter or
on radio, Like, I don't care. I don't have the
emotional ties to any of these teams, So I don't.
I have no problem blaming last week's loss on was
that Marcus Williams right, Like, yeah, everybody else said all

(01:51:18):
these nice things about Marcus Wain is not his fault.
I'm like, yeah, it was, but that's because I don't
play for the team. I don't represent the organization, I
don't live and work in the city. I can say
it really is. And Teddy Bridge was not wrong for
wanting to All these things are right. You can want
to be a starter. You don't say it today. You
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Why are you disagree with that? No, I think that
there's a time and place for everything, and I just
I think, yeah, I I mean the day after. And
it's one of those things done too. It's a no brainer.

(01:52:00):
Do you want to start? Yeah? Who doesn't? Like, Yeah,
we're gonna win this game? Who doesn't? But yeah, I'm
fine with that. Um And look, and I think Keena
wants to start, and they may both be else looking elsewhere.
And then there's the Bradford thing, and that the whole thing.
You know, it's only one guy can start. All three
want to start. Nobody really wants to leave because they

(01:52:21):
know they've got a good team. They know Theellen and
and Digs are two good wide receivers. Uh, we don't
know who the offensive coordinator is gonna Because Sherman's leaving
for the Giants. One would think that if the Giants
trade Eli Manning that one or all three, you know,
I would wouldn't stun me. By the way, if Sherman
goes to the Giants and Eli gets traded and they

(01:52:42):
draft a quarterback, if Bradford's brought in to be the
starter until he hands it up, because the problem with
Bradford is going to be finding a team that will
outside of Minnesota, that will start him and believe that
he can be healthy for seventeen games. Bradford's the best
of the three bridge Waters, one that people thought could
take the next step. But you know they he really

(01:53:06):
just managed the game when he was a starting quarterback
his first two years there. And you know, Keenum is
what he is, is what he is, so um, look,
it's it's it's what's called an embarrassment of riches. It's
what the the Patriots really had an embarrassment of riches
with Garoppolo and Brissette and Brady, but it's a little

(01:53:28):
bit of embarrassment of riches. You've got three guys that
can all play at some level, that will get it,
all will get a chance to they will all start
a game next year in the NFL. I don't think
they're all starters, but I think they'll probably all start
a game. Problem with Bridgewater is I wasn't sold on
him before he got hurt and he had this massive injury.
We haven't seen him since. His best chance of getting

(01:53:48):
another chance is in Minnesota. And you hurt your chance
of staying in Minnesota when you say something the day
after you lose. Just not that not the time. And
I'm bad at time and place. I just amn, I'll
admit it. I'm bad at time place. So what maybe? Yeah,
it's like the old takes one and no one. I
know when something's bad time and place. That one's bad
at time place from the best offense in the league

(01:54:10):
to possibly the worst that I'm coming um as conditions
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farmers all right? Just got an email from both Cindy
Katz and Ryan Music. Let's see hear Tyreek Evans, Yes,
Tyreek Kevans. Possibly Randall Cunningham, is it right? Maybe? Randal
Cunningham and Mark Layrath. So far those are those are
three that we're circling on. Possibly Chris Bruce hard On,

(01:55:13):
Jason Kidd getting and um the the Matta Doors, I
mean Cleveland Cavaliers. Did I say Matta Doors? I say
Cleveland Cavaliers. The press, do do do do do do
do do do damn buyer what you got in the press.
We've got something new today, Doug, that I'm instituting in

(01:55:35):
the press. It's called a press pass. Okay, and when
you hear this, that's the saved by the Bell transition.
I may take us off course. Okay, just just so
you know, I can only use it once during the
press But when you hear that, I may ask your
opinion on something, say from this past weekend, say in

(01:55:56):
college basketball, say maybe with your alma mater. Okay, let's
just let's just be aware. The Milwaukee Bucks today fired
head coach Jason Kidd after three and a half seasons.
Assistant Joe Prunty will now take over as the team's
interim head coach, and he did a lot of the
coaching otherwise. Look, I mean almost all the coaching, to
be completely honest. Look, Jason Kidd was was brought in

(01:56:18):
because they thought he could relate to the players, because
of the fact that they all grew up watching him play.
And he wasn't doing a good job of relating to
the players. Right. It's the old You had one job,
didn't do it well, you get fired. Didn't communicate with
Malcolm brog didn't win the trade for Eric Bloodsoe took
Broad in to the bench. Outside of johnas Janice into
the compo, didn't have a good relationship with most of

(01:56:38):
the guys get out, so you get fired. The press
pass already being used. How much of the blame should
Trey Young take for Oklahoma's loss at Oklahoma State this
past weekend? He took all the shots, so he takes
they lose because he did thirty nine shots. Thirty nine shots.

(01:57:01):
That's a lot of shots. That's in a ridiculous dever shots. Um,
a healthy percentage of it, look at all? Just should
be Oklahoma didn't foul up three when they kind of
tried to foul Yeah, it was him and it was him. Um,
so yeah, I would take a substantial, a healthy dose
of the blame for trade. Actually referenced your tweet of
the video clip that you posted on Twitter on our

(01:57:22):
show yesterday. You posted it on Saturday. Um, it may
have been a retweet, but of the senior versus freshman
diving on the floor Mitchell Solomon senior center for Oklahoma State. Uh,
tie game ball on the floor late Mitchell Solomon dives
on the floor. Those two a teammate were as Trey
Young who actually had the angle, Uh didn't dive in
the floor. And it's one of those deals were like,
look if you're gonna take thirty nine shots, and the

(01:57:44):
rest of the sophomores, juniors and seniors are gonna be like,
all right, it's your team. We'll just kind of react.
We get it will score. If not, you do your thing.
You gotta do all the little things it takes to
earn that right, and that that will not go overwell
in film. They play Kansas tomorrow at home. Let's we'll
see how he reacts. The Cleveland Browns will reportedly hire
former Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley to be their offensive coordinator.

(01:58:07):
Um good. That means whoever gets the job, whoever gets drafted,
will soon hate Todd Haley thought, but but you won't
be able to call a quarterback sneak. Only Tom Brady
can call it to a quarterback sneak. Ben Roethlisberger apparently
could not. Some breaking coaching news in the National Football League,
the New York Giants have just officially announced Pat Shermer

(01:58:28):
is their new head coach. There had been some question
Doug because of weather in Minneapolis, if he'd be able
to meet with the Giants for a second interview, with
the Giants making and official he is their guy. Me
with him be a skype can't you do you ready
to be there in person? Like just FaceTime? And like
what do you want to know? Why even go back
to Minnesota? So you just went from Philly to New York.
One would one would think, right, you gotta go back

(01:58:50):
with the team, right, You can't be like Wres coach.
I wanted to coach himber, thank you for a great season, Like, ah,
he's in New York already. I think I don't think
that's the way it does. The Arizona Cardinals today hired
Pather's defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes to be their new head coach.
Patrick Peterson says, I like it. Patrick Peterson's the biggest
name young defensive player. I guess not necessarily young vet

(01:59:10):
defensive player um on the Arizona Cardinal. So if he
likes it, everybody else should follow suit. I guess where
there's a Wilkes, there's a way. What do you know
about Steve Wilkes outside of the fact that he's a
football coach? Hi, I know this, Actually I said this
to John He coached somewhere like Johnson State was his

(01:59:31):
first like coach Johnson Smith. That was that it was
like twenty years ago, and you think about like that,
like it's a historically black college. John Johnson C. Smith
the Savannah State, Illinois State, app State. He played at
app State. But this is a grinder worked his way up.
I've been with the Carolina Panthers since I think two
thousand twelve, focused on their defensive backs. He's a really

(01:59:54):
he's a big time defensive backs guy. And of course
we saw um what's his name that went to the Redskins.
Um shoot Josh Norman right developed under his watch. So
I think that's part of it. Titans defensive coordinator Dick Lebow,
I'm not going to return to the team under head
coach Mike Rabel and the Tennessee and says the eighty

(02:00:14):
year old likely to retire from coaching. No, I mean
that you can't tell him to leave John Well, I
mean it's better how to retire him than have him die, right,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like it's a good thing,
Like you know, Dick, call you Dick anyway. Uh remember

(02:00:34):
he was fired from Pittsburgh or did you retire from Pittsburgh?
I can't remember. That was after the Tim Tebow game, right,
Tim Tebow beats you on the pass, you automatically lose
your jobs your different coordinators. That I believe is the
rule that's in then and in the NFL rulebook. John
can't find hit the Road Dick on Spotify. There's no version.
It's only Jack that we can find. We touched on

(02:00:56):
Teddy Bridgewater a little bit earlier, but in case you
missed that, he told reports today he wants to be
a starting quarterback in Yeah. I just think it's too soon.
I mean, look, and it's obvious. Yeah, we know you
want to be a starter, right, we got it understood,
But it wasn't even active yesterday because the Vikings obviously
didn't feel comfortable in his level of health or that

(02:01:17):
he's better than Teddy Bridgewater. I still think they should
have given I mean Sam Bradford. I think they should
have given Sam Bradford a look yesterday. How about this
because of a family matter of family issue that he's
dealing with. Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Baker Mayfield was late
arriving to the Senior Bowl, still hoping to practice with
the North squad today. But Senior Bowl week for Baker
Mayfield getting off to a unusual start. This is not

(02:01:40):
a joke. Yeah, I don't. I it's gotta be a
really big family thing, you know, like you you gotta
bring it like a death certificate. Really sorry, Like you're
Baker Mayfield and people are questioning your off field stuff
and show up late and you're like, I had a
family thing, Like Okay, you should have showed up last Thursday.

(02:02:03):
Okay you should have. Fox, NBC and CBS the only
networks to bid on Thursday Night Football, according to The
Sports Business Journal, with Turner and ABC reportedly dropping out
of the bidding process. Something well, Turner ABC have money issues.
Fox has all the money in the world from selling off,
you know, all the studio stuff. So um. You know.

(02:02:25):
The question is Fox bid a lot more money, bien
more money than than NBC and CBS paid previously, so
they must want all the games. And I would guess
they want to dictate terms in terms of programming if
I was running Fox, and I am not, nor do
I have any insight into it. If I were running Fox,
I would say, look, we want you to lengthen the

(02:02:47):
season by one week, and then we want all these
teams to have a buy before Thursday Night Football. So
the level of play is better. Um, and then I
don't know as far as the NFL network, if they're
gonna you know, they canna simulcast on NFL network as
they saw a cast on FS one. That's a big question.
What about this one? If CBS said, hey, Fox will
back out, but you have to take Young Sheldon. If

(02:03:09):
you're a Fox, would you still want to have that package? Sorry?
Young Sheldon just looks like the dumbest show I've ever
seen show on TV. And that a CBS show. Yes, yes,
but if they were like, we won't bid, but you
have to take Young Sheldon off of our hands, would
that be a good Fox business deal? Somebody I want

(02:03:32):
to know who who green light? Who greenlit Young Sheldon?
I actually he too wore at the bus. I think
the guys who did the Big Bang Theory actually right,
isn't it It's supposed to be It's supposed to be
a Big Bang Theory when Sheldon was younger without being funny.
Oh no, that's the press bing out there and pressed

(02:03:54):
that was the press is now is it a spring
replacement show or is it a fault that's gonna be
a fall show? It's it's already been one is anybody
watching h TBS picks up for full twenty two episodes?
How many CBS shows can you get your name not
named c S? I I only watched Survivor, What's Up

(02:04:17):
Two Broke Girls? I think the Two Broke Girls got canceled.
I thought, yeah, they are really they're two unemployed broke
girls too. I'm Network TV, right, I've said this Friends,
the show like Friends will never exist again because Friends
was in the you know, the target demo was like
eighteen to thirty, eighteen to forty, and everybody watching the Thursday.

(02:04:39):
Now nobody eighteen and thirty eighteen forty watches Network TV.
They know. Unless I'm on from the best offense in
the league of the best defensive league. We'll talk about
that tomorrow. Plus great guest in the Doug Oatlup Show,
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