Duke's luck finally runs out: Who's to blame?

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. And then there were four,
but there are no Duke or Kentucky. The Final four
is set Saturday night in Minneapolis. It'll be Texas Tech
going up against Michigan State, Virginia taking on Auburn. But yesterday, heck, Saturday,

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heck frodden the whole regional sites of what we've had
over the last four days, providing magnificent basketball that culminates
into a final four that doesn't have any of those
two blue bloods. Remember a week ago and everyone was like, oh,
this is the worst tournament ever. I just I just
invoke my ORNI span your voice there by the way,
worst tournament ever? Oh my god, there are no upsets?

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So boring? Yeah, I think you got Are you still bored? America?
Are you still bored the drama that we had not
only Saturday, but then they carried over into Sunday. You
had two games that end up going into overtime, one
game knocking off a top seed, and then you have
one that goes down to the wire to wrap it
all up with the top seed Duke of the East

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Region getting knocked off by number two Michigan State sixty seven.
And if people, if there's a group of people out
there that are having more fun than the Duke and
Kentucky haters, I have no idea who they are, because
I will say this, there are many many college basketball
fans that love to watch the loathing of those two programs,

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and specifically John Calipari and one coach, Mike Schowski. Well,
I also think it's the the fans of each respective
and base getting mad at each other. Now, this is
what the internet is great for, right, Like we always
talk about all the negative things that happen on social media,
and there are plenty, but watching one fan base just

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go after each other as they both loathe in their
own misery is also kind of entertaining. Because I think
Kentucky fans got kind of a sick little thrill out
of Duke losing. I think Kentucky fans are sitting here saying,
why does my coach always get criticized when coach k
gets a pass when he has three of the top
five picks. And then on the inverse side, Duke fans
are like, why are you worried about us? Worry about

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your own team. But it still makes for great entertainment.
I've heard a lot of criticism of Mike Sachowski over
these last twenty four hours, and and I've got to
be honest, I'm scratching my head trying to figure out
why some of this is Legit isn't this the nature
of the tournament. Isn't this what provides such drama? Is

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we use one and done in a term of players
entering college and then leaving for the NBA. But one
loss and you're done in the n C double A
turn him and is what makes it so great? And
I just I hear a lot of stuff. And yesterday
was on the air during the entirety of the Duke
Michigan State game. And you've got Michigan State making runs,
You've got Duke making runs, you have Duke turning the

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ball over quite a bit. But all of this, in
my mind, Aaron comes down to the fact of I
hear these themes, these narratives of Coach K got out coached,
Coach K couldn't do it with the three of the
top ten players in in all of college basketball in
the freshman class entering, And I look at that is
that's out of criticism for what happened yesterday during those

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forty minutes of game time between Michigan State. And are
we really going to take a coach and put him
over the coals after his team has lost by one
point when sure one of those players ms is a
free throw that would have tied the game at least.
I mean, it's not like Duke was run out of
the gym by Michigan State. If they played again tomorrow,

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Duke would have a pretty good chance of winning that game.
If they played seven times, you could uh for three split.
But it's the nature of the tournament. And so when
it doesn't fulfill the the the desires of of of
those fan bases out there, we sit there and we say, oh,
coach K got out coached. Coach K can't do this.
I just think I think he's getting a bad rap
today considering what transpired yesterday. Well, and I think a

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lot of it comes from the narrative after Kentucky loss.
I I think these two programs, whether their fans want
to admit it or not, are intertwined. And the immediate
reaction when Calipari loses the tournament game is, oh, there
he goes again. Another loss in the tournament best one
of the two or three best teams in the country.
And so look, I think in the broader spectrum of like,

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it's really hard to win national championships, right, like like
don't let Jay right doing it twice in three years
for you, Like Jim Beheim has one national championship, Tomazo
has one, Coach k Our coach Calipari has one, Bill
self has one. It's really hard to do. But I
think that, um, the thing is is that coach Calipari.

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John Calipari was criticized as soon as that game went final,
and so I think a lot of people in the
media were quick and we're ready to pull the trigger
on Calipari, like look at this guy, another loss with
one of the best teams in the country. And I
think Kentucky fans and I think other people in the
media kind of sat there and said the same thing
is like this is really hard. But if you're gonna
criticize John Calipari, you better also criticized coach k who

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has three of the top five picks in the Cup
coming in. Well, this is where where I think that
there's a difference in and I think that you would
agree with me on this is Duke and Kentucky weren't
the same this year. Like the Kentucky that we think
exists as as a as a general sports fan base,
those that maybe don't follow it until March Madness, we

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still think of Kentucky as the one and done school.
That's not the case anymore. And so the arguments that
we would use against Calipari early on in the one
and done era, if you will, going back to twelve
and those seasons and even twenty eleven, they made the
Final four and they had Brandon Night was I think

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the only the one and done that they had there.
But the point being is there was a narrative around
cal that they weren't getting it done with the one
and duns and they only had the one national championship. Like,
I don't look at Kentucky anymore as that one and
done program. But I guess what you're saying is that
if you're gonna criticize cal for that, even if it's

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true or not, right now, you sure has that better
criticized coach K. Yeah, and I and I think to
your point, And I think this is something a lot
of people miss when they just kind of casually lump
in John Caliperry. He doesn't have the players that he
used to like, and he still has really good players.
There's probably five six guys on this roster they'll play
in the NBA. But you look at the guys that
he had back in the day. I mean John Wall

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number one overall, pick, Derrick Rose number one overall, pick,
Anthony Davis number one overall, pick, Michael kid Gil Chris
number two overall, pick Carl Anthony Towns, on and on
and on and on and on. You look at this roster,
they might not have a top ten pick. For what
I believe, and I could be mistaken on this, I
believe it would be the first time in the Calipari
era that he would not have a top ten pick.

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And so, yeah, that that was kind of my only
broader point. And where I think the fan base is
getting mad at each other is Doug Evans sitting here
and saying, you know, you want to criticize our coach. Fine,
we think that we should be in the final four,
just like you do. But that other guy over there
has a lot of talent and a lot of people
are giving him a pass. I just look at Duke
and and to take it from the coach k angle

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of Coach K wasn't out coached yesterday by Tom is
as could say, it's a very good basketball team. Maybe
Coach K didn't recruit as well as we thought he did.
It sure may sound for the fact of this, and
it may sound ridiculous when you think of that he
bring in three of the top ten guys in in
high school hoops and heading and having the freshman class

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of this year. But there were holes on that Duke team.
We talked so much about the lack of three point shooting,
and Duke has had a history of great three point shooters,
whether it be dating back to Trajan Langdon and JJ Reddick.
You know, ten or twelve years ago, John Shire was
a guy that could shoot the ball. Kyle singular like,
there were guys who were threats from three that you

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had to guard, you had to defend, you had to
worry about in putting together this class in this specific team,
that's where he missed out. And if there was ever
a point, I think if we're looking at maybe where
Duke missed it was maybe in that guard area. I
know Zion Williams that had five turnovers in r J.
Barrett had seven yesterday, So like a lot of the
heat comes on them, but I think it's maybe more

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of the guard player bringing in those guys. I just
can't get on a guy for again on a coach
for putting his team in a position to go to
the free throw line and have two opportunities to tie
the game if you make or have an opportunity to
tie the game if you make both. It's just so
easy to pile on at a one game situation. I
don't I don't know what Duke would have done differently
except maybe try to bring in a little bit more

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in the backcourt to maybe turn down, you know, less
than the numbers. I think it's an unfair criticism for
Duke just because they didn't get it done with top talent. Yeah,
I mean, I guess you could make that point, but
I mean I think it's legit. You think like him,
not getting to the Final four is with this group
is a failure. And and and if you're at Duke,

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you're going for titles? Is that kind of what I mean?
I don't think it's quite that extreme. And I think
the nature of a one and done tournament, as you
alluded to, it's really hard to win these games. But
I also think, like you can make a legitimate case
that Zion Williamson and r J. Barrett are the two
best players in college basketball. And so I know it's
not an apples to apples comparison with professional sports situation

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where the Warriors you gotta beat them four out of
seven times. But it's like you know, in a game seven,
if the Warriors are in a game seven, they should
win because they have Stephen Kevin Durant as opposed to
whoever they're playing. Right, So to me, I don't like
I think Coach k even said it well, he said
I'm disappointed. I don't think this season itself is a disappointment.

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But I mean, come on, if if I just feel
like a lot of other guys would be taking a
lot more heat, I mean, Zion Williamson is once in
a lifetime at least the college level. We'll figure out
if if he's going to be once in a lifetime
at the NBA level. I've seen people argue that he's
the best player that coach k ever coached a duke. Now,
I don't know if I'd go that far. Grant Hill,
four year guy, whatever, Christian Laten or whatever. Zion was

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really good. And I think the frustration is not only
did they lose in this in the Elite eight, they
didn't look very good in the second round. They didn't
look they frankly didn't look very good in the first round,
but they didn't look good in the second round or
the sweet sixteen either. Something was missing and they're just
you thought that when he came back from his knee
injury that that that was the end of you know,

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they win the the a c C Tournament. They end
up getting the number one overall seed, but there may
still have been they weren't the same team. Yeah, it was.
It's just something that just wasn't right at injury is
to deal. I mean, Cam Reddish wasn't at a percent
even earlier on in the season, and Trey Jones was
dinged up. You saw when one of those pieces were
out when they weren't at one, they weren't the same team.

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All I know is this, You go to any park
here in Los Angeles or around the country and you're
running pick up games or anybody any kid who's playing
high school basketball, and you run an open jam, and
you get a couple of the old guys that come
in that maybe played high school hoops about twenty years ago.
The young guns aren't sitting on the court for two
hours holding court with winner stays like there are games
where the other team's gonna get you, and Duke got

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got last night. And I know that they had a
couple of other opportunities to get got but they were
still there in the end. And I know it's a
The final four is the goal in the National Championships
is the goal. I just think it's I think it's
so easy to sit there and say, coach k got
out coached. We'll tell me how. Yeah, I don't. I
don't know that he got out coached, but I think
you can say that it's a legitimately disappointing season for Duke.

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And by the way, this is one of the great
things about the n c A tournament is you have
a team like Michigan State a player like cash Is Winston,
who I'm a guy, you know, and I think you
watch more college basketball and you give yourself credit for
because you dropped little nuggets that I think you're a secret,
a closet watching basketball guy. So the what I was
gonna say was cash Is Winston. I don't know if

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that guy will ever This is the Michigan State point
guard for people, and see the game yesterday twenty points
tennis is I don't know if he will ever play
an NBA game, but at the college level, he is
so awesome and he completely controlled that game. And so
I'm with you in the sense that I don't know
if coach k got out coached. I think he ran
into another really good team that just doesn't have the
star power that his team did. But I also think

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I don't know, like I don't think if if you're like,
you have the best team in the country. And I'm
not saying the best team wins every year, because there's
a lot of years that they don't, but to be
to not even be one of the final four, I
get the frustration of fans that are sitting there saying, like,
come on, coach K I mean Zion, r J, Barrett, Cameron.
I mean, these are guys that we're gonna be looking

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We're gonna be looking up at this team in ten
years and be like, wait, was Cam reddish on he
was on the same team as Zion, that guy, that
guy that's averaging like twenty one this year for the
Wizards or whoever he's gonna play for. Like, I just
think it was a I'll say this maybe not a disappointment,
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College Basketball Talk. There is, uh, some other things. We
want a quick touch on a report from the Athletic

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that Kentucky has offered John Calipari a lifetime contract. Yeah,
he's got that damn buyer treatment over there. I was
gonna say, Seth Davis from the Athletic reporting that basically
Kentucky has offered a lifetime contract in response to U
c l A making a serious push. The report from
Seth was six years, forty eight million dollars. Uh, and

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it sounds like Kentucky is ready to pony up. Basically,
give him, let him coach as long as he wants
and give him an administrative role a after uh and well,
you know, we have plenty of time to talk about it.
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down here on the Doug Gottli Show. Hey Rob, Happy,

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Final four week? How you doing? I'm doing well, doing well? Guys.
What's going on? Let's let's let's dive into this the
latest story that I guess he's just breaking right now.
But report said John Caliparty is going to get a
lifetime contract. What cal ever leave Lexington if this lifetime
contract is there a better job or a greener pasture

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for him outside of like Sington. The only way that
I could see him leaving Kentucky is if, you know,
maybe if the NBA came along, But I don't even
know if that's necessarily something that he would want to
do if he's not going to get a raise to
take that job. I think the reason that U c
l A became something that kind of interested him far

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enough that he would actually like have the conversations is
that he, you know, the idea of maybe going and
living in Los Angeles is probably a little bit more
appealing than living in um Lexington in terms of just
LA is really really nice. It's really nice to live
on the coast and on the beach and all that
kind of stuff. But honestly, I don't think this was

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much more than you know, your typical offseason leverage play
from Caliperry. And I also don't think it is a
mistake or coincidence that this information got out from U
c l A. I think they want people to know
that they were willing to pony up. I think they
want people to know that they were willing to put
together a salary package that was big enough to at

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least have John Caliperry or his agent or whoever pick
up the phone. Um. You know, I also heard that
there was This would have included being able to have
private flights and charters and all that and stuff, because
I think that we all know that John Calipari hasn't
flown private for at least that has a flown coach
for at least a decade. So UM, I think that

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there was a lot of moving parts here and the
fact that this story got out is beneficial for both
sides because you know, U c l A still does
not have head coach right now, and what are we
like ninety three days into the search for the new
head coach, and one of the stumbling blocks keeps It
seems to keep being the fact they're not going to
pay or can't pay as much as some other programs,

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some mother schools, and maybe what you would expect a
program like u c l A to be able to
or willing to pay well. And that was kind of
my follow up for you, Rob is you know one
I had heard that U c l A, just because
of some political things, maybe couldn't pay this much. You know,
I like Seth, I have no reason to question his reporting.
So if this is accurate, like, does it change for

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you what the perspective of the kind of coach that
U c l A can get? Because I'm sitting here saying, look,
everyone's not going to get the Godfather offer like John
Calipari just did. But if they are willing to go
this high for John Calipari, well the next guy might
not be John Calipari. But if they're willing to pay
that much money, they're gonna get somebody good. Yeah, you know,
I mean that's definitely something that that changes the way

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that you look at it. When what Steve Alfred was
making at u c l A. And I have made
this point before, is that um was less than what,
for example, Mike Bray is making at Notre Dame. And
when you factor in cost of living and everything that
goes into being a resident of Los Angeles, like that
is a pretty significant pay cut in terms of take

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home money, your money to actually end up in your
bank account and spendable income versus what Mike Bray is
going to be making and banking and save and all
of that good stuff when he is uh, when when
he's in South Bend. So yes, I do think that
being able to pay, being able to pay a big
number is something that is uh really going to impact
who they're able to get. Now. The interesting thing here

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is is I just don't know who is going to
be ready and willing to kick that job. If you
look at some of the biggest names that are kind
of on the market this year, you know one of
them is Chris bear. I personally am of the opinion
that he is not the right fit at u c
l A if he's going to end up taking a
bigger jobs or I think that he can get his

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raid whatever Texas text is going to give him now
and wait for a job that ends up being a
better fit, like oh, I don't know, maybe the University
of Texas, something like that. I think that somebody like
Kelvin Sampson, you know, all the all the rumors, little
links have him going to Arkansas in part because of
the a D that is there, But I don't even
know if he's gonna end up leaving. So I just

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I think this was a bad year um in terms
of what the hich and carousel is going to provide
for U c l A to end up opening up.
And I don't know if who they end up getting
is going to be worth the money that they're going
to have to spend on Rob Dowstair of NBC Sports
stocky College Hoops. So they are and Tours and myself
Dan Buyer as we are in for Doug Gottlieb today
here on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Is the criticism that

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Mike Sachowski is getting after yesterday's lost to Michigan State.
Is that a warranted criticism considering this class did not
make it to a final four. I don't think that
you can criticize him for not making too a final four.
You know, they lost by one point to a team
with maybe the best point guard in all of college basketball,
with a coach that has made the name for himself

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being able to make runs in March, and the two
team that won the Big Ten regular season title and
that one the Big Ten Tournament title. Um So, I
don't think you can criticize them for losing a one
point game to that team. What I do think you
can criticize them for is the fact that this team
ever seemed to get better throughout the course of the season.

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You know, they peaked with the first game of the year.
They peaked when they beat Kentucky by thirty four points
at the Champions Classics, and from there, you know, Jack
White never really became the complimentary role player that everybody
thought he was going to end up being. I mean,
he would seven weeks without making a threat pointer seven
a week, and he's supposed to be the guy that's
Baker the four and creating room designed to make moves

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and then creates room for r j ar ticket to
the Lucky, and he didn't make it free for seven weeks.
Alec O'Connell never really fit into the location Joey Baker.
They pulled his red shirt and he played five games
like a total fourteen minutes or something like that. So
I think you can criticize Cave for the fact that
he wasn't able to get this team to be as

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good as they possibly could be given the amount of
talent on the roster. I don't think that you can
criticize in for not getting to a Final four. You know,
I hate the way that we rely on results in
a one game knockout tournament to determine everything, right if uh,
you know, it's the same thing with coach Cows. You know,
I've seen criticism about him not being able to get

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to a Final four with this group when they lost
in overtime to the hottest team in college basketball that
happened to in the sec turn of the title. Who
in the last month has beaten Tennessee twice, one of
those wins by twenty points. You know, it's not that
they beat North Carolina two days earlier by seven team
points and we're gonna sit here and um criticized coach

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caw for not being able to get to the Final
four when he took when that team, when that game
with the overtimes, took that team to overtime. It's it's
silly to base everything that we think about a team
in a program and in a season and the results
of somebody has based off of a one game uh
one game results against the team that is probably going
to be one of the top ten team in the country.

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I just I can't do that. I think you can
criticize them for the big picture stuff, and there's certainly
criticisms there for coach k I just don't think that
you can criticize them for not being able to win
a game of d lving One of the other narratives
is kind of come out of last day or two.
You know, we spend so much time talking about these
one and done kids, Zion Williamson, Trey Young last year, obviously,
all the guys that we spend so much time talking about.

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I saw a stat where I think it's like, none
of the top one hundred recruits from last year are
expected to be on the floor, uh, in this final four.
In other words, most of those guys aren't on teams
that are actually gonna be in the final four. The
ones that are might not even see the floor. And
so I bring this up, like, like, you love college
basketball like I do, But do we spend way too

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much time talking about these guys relative to the impact
that they actually have once they get on the floor.
More importantly, not not so much on the floor, but
in the overall scheme of winning championships. Well, I don't
think we spend so much time talking about like did Williamson.
I mean, you know, you guys watched him to say
the same amount of signs that I watched him. I mean,
he's unbelievable. He's a better player than I think we

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may ever end up seeing in the college rings. Again,
I think he was deserving of all the hype. Now
that's said, part of what happens with these super teams
is you don't really end up with the guys that
can can do role players things. Right, those are the veterans,
Those are the quote unquote glue guys, right, those are
you know we talked about Duke winning that two thousand
and fifteen national title ball they also had Quinn Cook

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who was like the quintessential leader, uh, playing off the ball,
secondary point guard McDonald's all American, that American. They kind
of sacrificed his minutes and his shots for them to
be able to win. You know, they the uh you
talk about Garius Miller on that two thousand and twelve
talking teams. So, um, I think that you need veterans
that can play a role to go alongside some of

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these great players. Like I was having the conversation about
it today. You know, it's not that the issue wasn't
with Zan Williamson. The issue wasn't with r. J. Barrett.
With the Duke team, the issue was coach k can
never figure out how to get the best out of
Cambratis right last year. The issue wasn't Marvin Back. Issue
wasn't Wendell Carter. The issue was Trayvon Duval didn't quite

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live up to the height, you know. So I think
that it's not the superstars the guys that end up
being the issue when it comes to situations like this.
It's when you build a program around four freshmen, but
two of those freshmen or guys that in an ideal
world probably need two or three years in college what

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they're not going to end up getting it. So I
think that's the biggest thing is that you might you
want to get the best freshman because they are going
to be the best players in college basketball. I think
that was pretty clear with r J and On this season.
But what Duke really needed was a veteran like a
Jack White to be able to do what we all thought,
Jack White We're going to do, and it didn't end
up working out that way. Rob Dowser, covering college basketball

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for NBC Sports. One more before we let you go?
Does de Paul have enough bench? Tonight? In Game one
of the CBI to the the Top South Florida, I uh,
Max Strue's best player on the floor. I was that
was actually an April Fool's joke. I didn't expect you
to answer at all. I even said the air and
I said, hey, can we pull some April those jokes
on guys, And I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna
just ask him about the c B. I and Rob

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Dowster came back with information to Paul South Florida to
night game one of the c B. I I know,
I know one guy on the Paul's Hey, hey you
sold it. Well, good job. There you go here. I
think they finished when they still finished in tenth and
the Big East, but they won more games in last
place than they usually do, so they were tied. They

(26:25):
were tied for last. Whoa last with three other teams?
Come on, put some respect on their name. So by
so then that means they've technically finished in seventh place.
Then yeah, there you go that. I do like the
heavy from Rob when you asked him, but he was
able to navigate it and play the Aprin fools show
pretty well. Thanks Rob, we appreciate it, Thank you, thank you.

(26:46):
Rob DOWSTERVC Sports College Basketball didn't. I'm surprised he had
an answer for the Paul's bench against USF tonight. I
didn't know there were still other tournaments going, although there
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Hello Steve, Hello, and that cb I is a best
of three final people Game one, Yeah, that's why, and
I looked it up. South Florida had to go overtime

(27:28):
first round just to beat Stony Brooks. So this is
quite a story developing, gentleman, the two most magical words
in sports. Game three of the CBS, by the way,
one of those n I T final four games tomorrow
night Lipskim against which to State. So set the DVR
in advance. Which as for the college hoops you were
talking about yesterday, Yes, Duke class by one to Michigan State,

(27:50):
seventeen turnovers for the Blue Devil, seven by R. J. Barrett.
Barrett had twenty one points, but in the final minute,
he missed a jumper, he missed a three point try,
he missed one of two free throws. Who five seconds
left and all the talks about the coach. Spartans will
be playing the late game at the Final Four this
Saturday against Texas Tech about eight fifty Eastern time. After
Auburn's overtime went against Kentucky yesterday, It's Auburn against Virginia

(28:12):
on Saturday, six pm Eastern time for Minneapolis. Auburn's beaten Kansas,
North Carolina and Kentucky in a row. Belmont basketball coach
Rick Byrd retired after thirty three years at the school.
His team's finished first in conference ten times since two
thousand six. Belmont just won an n c A Tournament
game for the first time, beating Temple. In the first
four nine NBA games tonight, including Detroit at Indiana, Pacers

(28:35):
have lost three in a row. Blake Griffin of the
Pistons is out with a sore knee. The Steelers officially
released safety Morgan Burnett. He had joined Pittsburgh from Green Bay.
Last year, Cleveland Waves safety Derrick Kindred saving two million
dollars against the Cap and Cleveland wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr.
Met the media today. He was college teammates at l
s U with Jarvis Landry. Now he pro teammates with him.

(28:57):
We spokeus into existence almost him and I dreamed of this.
You know, this is something we talked about as seventeen.
I'm gonna live right down the street from you. We're
gonna be on the same team, and it's it's like
oh b J. As for the NHL, there is a
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and good start from Chris Archer in Pittsburgh. He went
five scoreless against the Cardinals, eight strikeouts. It's now Pirates
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(29:41):
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(30:01):
The Browns having voluntary workouts and Freddie Kitchens met the
media earlier today and you heard that SoundBite from Odell
Beckham Jr. Who was sitting next to Jarvis Landry. And
then the other side of Odell Beckham Jr. Was Baker
Mayfield and on the other side of Jarvis Landry was
Myles Garrett. So the Browns bringing in their big studs
to hang out with their new big stud on the podium.

(30:21):
But for all of those people who are so excited
about the Browns, and here's a bit of a dark
cloud Vegas coming out. CG Technologies were the first win
totals of the nineteen NFL season for over unders Cleveland Browns.
Right now, nine wins would be the mark, which would
be up a couple of wins from the from what

(30:43):
it previously was. I believe three ways six wins was
the previous number, now up to nine. With the moves
that they've made this offseason, the New England Patriots would
have eleven wins. That would be the highest over underwin
total of the season. But Vegas saying right now, if
you want to pick the over under, that number is
going to be not for the Cleveland Browns. Yeah. I
I do find it interesting, um, because they went seven

(31:05):
eight in one last year, and so for all this
hype of the off season, oh b J Kareem Haunt,
new coaching staff, Vegas doesn't think they're gonna be that
much better. Um. And I think it's It's one of
those things, right, Vegas is reflective of reality. It's not
reflective of what fans think, what sports talk radio hosts think. Uh.

(31:26):
And I think they're I think the Browns will be
the most interesting story going into next year. But I
think that all the hype from the off season about
is this a super Bowl contender? Is this the favorite
in the a f C North. I think we need
to pump the brakes a little bit on that for
a team that won seven games last year, This would
be a game and a half uptick from that. But
what I find interesting is if Vegas wanted to put

(31:47):
this at ten, I think you would have Browns fans
betting the over because they are so excited about this
upcoming season and a good young quarterback will do that
to you. But then the question is, when you're sitting
are looking overall at how good this team is and
if you're making Super Bowl bets for the Cleveland Browns,
are they really better than New England Patriots even without

(32:08):
Rob Gronkowski? Are they better than the Kansas City Chiefs
who came within an overtime session of going to the
Super Bowl? Are they better than the Los Angeles Chargers
who had a heck of a run at the end
of the season. And those are just the teams that
I think we know are significantly better than the Cleveland Brownls.
That's what I was gonna say, Like, do are we sure? Like?
Are they better than the Steelers? Maybe? I mean the

(32:30):
Steelers still have Juju, they still have James Conner was
phenomenal in replacement of lebian Bell this year. I take
the Colts. I love what the cults are building in Indianapolis,
like I would take the Colts to have a better
chance for In fact, Indianapolis is win total number from
CG Technologies is nine and a half. So even Vegas

(32:50):
thinks that the Colts will be better than the Browns
next year. And these are the teams that feel like
on paper obvious. I mean, could you see a scenario
where the Texans are better than them? Absolutely? Really, the
Ravens absolutely. I don't know if it will happen, but
I don't know. I think it's fun, you know, it's
obviously always fun to talk football. And to see this
number come out, uh, certainly an uptick from where it's
been and from who the Browns are. And we do

(33:13):
have to remember that at this time last year, the
Browns were coming off and oh in sixteen seasons. So
it is incredible the strides they've made in a year.
But to go from where they did zero to seven
wins might be a much more significant jump than them
going from seven wins to be in a Super Bowl.
Content they have home games against the Rams and Seahawks
that they'll play in nineteen, which I'd rather play those

(33:36):
teams at home than they have the the travel but
then that means they're on the road to face the
forty Niners and Cardinals maybe a bit easier for them.
But you also have a road game against New England,
which I'm sure CBS and NBC are fighting overs for
who gets the right to to have that game to
start the season. So there's there's a few hiccups. And
plus you've got the division, as you talked about with Pittsburgh,
and you're gonna have a couple of games against those

(33:57):
Baltimore Ravens, and I didn't put the bank goes into
the equation, but that's the way that the schedule plays out.
Didn't get relegated. I was gonna say, how about who
would have ever thought Brown's Cardinals could potentially be a
little sexy matchup there? Number one overall, pick number one overall,
pick Kyler versus Baker the Lincoln Riley Bowl. I'm not saying.
I'm just saying that it's kind of interesting. You're not saying,

(34:18):
but he's saying, and he says it on Twitter at
Aaron Underscore Torres, I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox. I'm
not sure if I want to go to any Cardinal
games just yet. Yeah, I know you know a good
couch game. You can hear Aaron by the way Saturday
nights alongside Arnie Spanier at eleven o'clock Eastern time. You
can hear me Sunday afternoons at five o'clock Eastern time.

(34:40):
You're on Fox Sports Radio. Me and Nick Bob been
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Eli Manning could be under center for the Giants, not
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(35:02):
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(35:24):
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(35:51):
Doug Godlaib Show. One of the worst introductions I've ever
had of Steve de Sager. I have to admit, sorry, Steve,
those very anti Clementic my part. But it's just fine,
glad to have you here. And what game are we
playing today? Big deal? Little deal? All right, produce I
didn't even have to ask for Yeah, this is this
is where we say this. If this is a big deal.

(36:13):
If it's just a little deal or no deal, you
don't want anything to deal with, you know, it's kind
of a big deal. Is that pirates openery reference. There's
no snow. It's sunny in about forty so everybody's very
very happy. We'll start with a football item, also a
big deal. You mentioned the other college basketball tournaments. You
failed to mention the Wisconsin Green Bay Fighting Phoenix c

(36:33):
I t yeah tomorrow night. Yeah, I looked it up.
All four teams in their final four have at least
thirteen losses, some of them are close to five d
and that includes all the wins in this tournament. You
know Isaac Loencron, who's you'll hear on Fox Sports Radio
A bunch, Yeah, was the voice of cal State Bakersfield.
They lost to you w GB on Friday night. One

(36:55):
we'll be talking about And then one of us worked
for him on Saturday. Yeah, that was Steve. That would
be item number one. Is it a big deal, little deal,
or no deal that people within the Giants organization football
are open to extending Eli Mannings contract for the twenty season.
He's thirty eight and has had a losing record with

(37:16):
the Giants five of the last six years. I think
this is a big deal on multiple fronts. Number one,
I think it tells us that they wouldn't put them
out of the possibility of drafting a quarterback in but
it would in nineteen. So they have six, they have seventeen,
so Dwayne Haskins, Drew Lock, any of them would be
off the board. But what I think is even a

(37:38):
bigger deal, guys, is that you are now almost wasting
the years of se Kwon Barkley on a cheap contract,
trying to build your team, and if you're holding onto
Eli Manning in trying to extend him as much as
you can, you're gonna put a lot of tread on
the tires of Sa Kwon Barkley. I think it's a
big deal as well, for all the reasons you said,

(37:59):
Dan quick question, Who's gonna end up with a longer contract,
John Calipari or Eli manningwin Gosh, I'm gonna go with
cal just by and I will say what few wins
Eli has in recent years will not be forfeited deal,
a little deal or no deal. Julio Jones doesn't care

(38:20):
about being the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL.
He wants a new contract, but he told the ESPN
dot Com if we can do it in a way
to get all the other guys to stay on the
team too, So he does have that in mind. Remember
he skipped the offseason work last year, got the salary
bump just before reporting to camp. I think it is.
I think it's a big deal, but in a good way,

(38:41):
not in a bad way. In a good way because
if he's really willing to take less money for the
good of the team, I think history tells us more
often than not that is going to work out well
for both the player and the team. By the way,
it's interestingly they gave up half of their team to
get him in the first place, so I guess this
is now reciprocating giving him back. I yeah, I'm on
the same page ages as well, because the last thing

(39:01):
the Falcons need to do is overpay Julio Jones, who
did lead the league in receiving yards last year. But yeah,
we talked about so much du wide receivers translated into victories.
Smart move by Julio Jones, and Julio says he will
be back for mandatory mini mini camp in June summer,
having those offseason workouts not not mandatory. Item number three,
Big deal, little deal or no deal that Ben Roethlisberger

(39:24):
will likely not continue as weekly radio spot during the
regular season next season. It's fan sighted that he's expected
to give up the show. Remember he was making headlines
during these regadio segments. Am I speaking for myself for
Antonio Brown? Go ahead, you can go ahead. If I'm
Antonio Brown, I'm saying this is a huge deal. I'm

(39:44):
going on Instagram Live right now to talk about it,
because this is the reason that the relationship is over
between those two. Ben Ben Roethlisberger running his mouth. So
maybe as a vet, he's got to realize, like, I
gotta keep this stuff in house. This is a big
deal because this is another avenue where Ben Camp put
out fake retirement rumors. Yeah, so no, you like, I
don't know if I'm gonna play much longer, so he can.

(40:05):
He would only do that in the postgame scrubs, you know, scrum.
I think that's why, that's why it's a big deal
item for the Raiders will work out top quarterback prospects
Kyler Murray and Dwayne Haskins prior to the draft. Is
this a big deal? Little deal? No deal? Uh have
no deal? No deal for me. I don't think they're
drafting a quarterback. They have four of the first thirty

(40:26):
five picks this year at least, I don't think it's
gonna be one of those two guys. Kyler Murray is
gonna be gone, and I don't think they take Dwayne Haskins.
So I'm saying no deal. I'll say a very quick
no deal because um, as best I can tell, I
agree with everything. Dan says nothing. They're not gonna Kyler
Murray is not going to be there, and Dwayne Haskins,
I don't think he's the right guys, and quickly Brady
expected to skip out as big deal nod, Yeah, the

(40:49):
little deal, Yeah, the littlest of all deals. Yes, he
could skip week four. A few wants to. It's still
be all right. He's done it before, not by his
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(41:12):
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show, the one and done.
What have we learned and what have we got wrong?
We'll tell you coming up next. Fox Sports Radio has
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to listen live. Well, we know that there aren't really

(41:37):
true blue bloods. And when I say blue bloods, I
mean the color blue that they wear on their uniform.
Kentucky not there, Duke is not there. In fact, you've
got a final four with some navy blue and orange.
You've got yet navy blue and orange as well with
Virginia green with Michigan State and that red and black

(41:59):
of Texas. Act. There's also something else missing from the
final four, Aaron Torres. One and done players, Yes, the
one and done players. Not only have they been under
the microscope because it could be gone in a couple
of years, but they're also gone from the n C
Double A tournament. Duke was really the I guess, last
chance if you would, to have a host of one

(42:20):
and done players make it to the Final four, but
it didn't happen this year, and now it has us
all up in arms about the one and done and
how college teams shouldn't go by that recipe. Shouldn't go
by that method because look how far it gets you.
Is the one and done done in college basketball? Well
it might literally be done in a year or two here,

(42:41):
but figuratively it just hasn't resulted in success for these programs.
And we opened the show by talking about is it
fair to be critical of coach k um you know,
and and there's only gonna be one team that wins
the championship. But he also has you could legitimately argue
three of the top ten players in this board and
two of maybe the top two or three players in

(43:02):
the sport. But time and time again we find out.
And it's funny because you and I filled it on Friday,
and you brought up this point of if you go
down the checklist of successful college basketball programs in the tournament,
Duke had almost none of those variables. Didn't shoot the
three ball well, didn't shoot fall shots well, didn't have
veteran guards, and so maybe it's a little bit of

(43:25):
an anomaly to lose this quote unquote early with this
much talent. But yeah, you look at Duke's recent success.
You look at Kentucky's recent success that hasn't been there.
I look at this Duke team, and that's why it's
just so it's so difficult for me to be critical
of Mike Sazewski in this scenario. I think that there
are areas that he should be open to criticism for

(43:47):
things that have happened. In fact, now that he's kind
of taken over the one and done, I found it
interesting that he made comments at the regional this week
on how the n C Double A has got to
figure out. Well, the NBA may have their one and
done plan ready to go, and they're C B A
and now they're going to handle it, and it in
doing doing away with it. That college basketball in the
n C Double A hasn't hasn't been proactive. And I

(44:09):
thought to myself, you're really the only one that's doing
it right now. I mean like like they're there. There
aren't other teams, other programs that are bringing him three
players at a time like he's been able to do
on a couple of occasions. And and we mentioned him
taking over that torch kind of from Kentucky where it's like, hey,

(44:30):
if you can't beat him, join them. I give coach
k credit for realizing, you know what, not only are
those players coming to Duke, it means those players aren't
going to Kentucky, which gives us another chance to win.
So he changes his philosophy. Twenty years ago, it was
blasphemous for any player to leave school after his freshman
year when they go to Duke. When Elton Brand did it,

(44:51):
everybody was like, what, wait, what's going on here. This
is because it hadn't happened. We talked about the Grant
Hills and the Christian Latener's and the Bobby Hurleys, guys
who would stay aid and throughout those seasons and played
their their full careers in college basketball. So like Duke
has changed. But when I see the the the one
and done scenario that we've got in college basketball and

(45:12):
how it may be going away, it's brought up so
many more questions of all, right, look at Virginia's veteran backcourt,
look at or veteran team, I should say, look at
what you know. Yeah, Michigan State has done with you know,
and and at times you've got twenty two year old
men playing against eighteen year old boys. And I think
that's a difference as well when you're playing the one

(45:32):
and done to me and and we're gonna play a
bit from Rob Dowstern in a bit that is maybe
changed and maybe hasn't put the attention on, is the
development of players because maybe you aren't as invested, or
because your time frame is so crunched with that unit,
you're not able to develop. Well, that's exactly what it is.
And you know Coach K has even talked about himself,

(45:54):
you know, just having to speed up the process. By
the way, this is why I don't criticize either coach
K or John Calipari, because John Calipari has made it
to the elite eight seven out of ten years at Kentucky.
Like to have your team in the conversation every year
when you literally have a completely different team is unbelievable.
And so when I look at at the scenario as

(46:14):
far as um, you know what you just said, speeding
up the process, it's absolutely correct. It's why Coach K
last year had to go to a zone when he
had Marvin Bagley and Wendell Carter and all those guys,
because he said, like, you guys aren't playing man to
man and well enough at the highest level, and I
have no choice but to switch up what I've been doing.
So it's interesting, and I think the the lack of

(46:35):
one and done guys in the final four, with the
the great high school players that are now college freshman,
I think it's reflective on one that the programs that
recruit these guys are uh the guys that the programs
that don't recruit these guys. I should say are having
better success developing guys over two or three years. But
again to your point, it's tough to uh develop these

(46:55):
guys in a short amount of time. If you are
Duker Kentucky and then furthermore to find the right pieces
to fit around him, he's erraturs. I'm Dan Buyer and
for Doug Gottlieve. Today and earlier on the show, Rob
Dowstir of NBC Sports covering college basketball for them in
College Basketball Talk joined us to talk about the one
and done and teams coming up short in the n
C Double A Tournament. Part of what happens with these

(47:16):
super teams is you don't really end up with the
guys that can can do role player things, right. Those
are the veterans, those are the quote un glue guys. Right.
The issue wasn't with Zan Williamson. The issue wasn't with
r J. Barrett. With the Duke team, the issue was
coach k can never figure out how to get the
best out of came Rattis right. Last year, The issue
wasn't Marvin Back, issue wasn't Wendell Carter. The issue was

(47:39):
Trayvon Duval didn't quite live up to the hype it's
not the superstars, the guys that end up being the
issue when it comes to situations like this. It's when
you build a program around four freshmen, but two of
those freshmen are guys that in an ideal world probably
need two or three years in college. What they're not
going to end up getting it. You want to you

(48:00):
want to know why this bothers me of hearing that,
because I think he's got a really good point, and
the points that we've talked about, I think are legitimate
about guys developing and you don't have that that time frame.
What bothers me is the way that college basketball has
been a team like Duke brought people in this year
and now with with all of these negative ramifications that

(48:22):
we're seeing of not only could it be difficult for
the players themselves who are the one and done, but
those around those players of fitting in and adjusting. Is
that the one and done for a while has given
us great storylines and and ever since when Greg Oden
went to Ohio State, they had a bunch of the

(48:43):
Thad five of that great story lines. You talked about
the Kentucky teams year after year after year, and now
the Duke teams. Yeah, Lonzo Ball, you know, makes the
name for himself. So for these negatives that are there,
it has brought and I think attention to college basketball
that maybe wouldn't have been there as the NBA seems
to take over more and more of people's basketball interests

(49:04):
on a whole, not at a regional level, blood as
a whole. So hearing these negative things, these are real issues,
like not getting guys to develop, not getting guys to
move along. That to me is tough for me to
hear because they're legit and would be a reason why
the one and done should be done. Yeah, and it
is disappointing on a number of levels because I do think,
like you said, I will say I think it's a

(49:25):
net positive because it brings in exposure, but also because
you want to watch Zion, I think you learned about
a lot of other great stories. So, uh, you know,
we haven't gotten ratings for yesterday, but I would guess
that number was through the roof and now people know, hey,
like this Cascius Winston guy from Michigan State is pretty
good when nobody would have ever heard from him. And

(49:46):
I think, by the way, it doesn't it isn't just
the guys that aren't going to be future NBA stars,
Like I think a lot of people learned about Kobe
White from North Carolina by tuning into a Duke game
against North Carolina. So I think it's been a net positive.
And I do worry about in the grand scheme when
these guys do get to go straight to the pros,
what it's gonna do to college basketball, because I do
think the casual interest is going to be gone, but

(50:09):
hasn't been a net positive for the the overall sports.
And I think that on an individual basis is that's
where it's like, that's why we're being critical of Duke today,
maybe because like we're criticizing and I'm not trying to
take the the put the onus on r J. Barrett
who had seven turnovers or Zion who had five, order

(50:31):
to put it on these nineteen year old twenty you know,
twenty year old kids. But the point is is we're
sitting there pointing out the failures of Mike Saschowski and
it's all of you know of Mike Sachowski needed to
do this with Zion Williamson. He needed to do this
with our J Barrett. He needed to do this with
you know, all of the players that were surrounding him,

(50:52):
and sometimes it just doesn't work. Like look at what
a mess the one and Done was at l s
U with Ben Simmons. I mean he hated everybody. Everybody
seemed to hate him. I mean of the of the
players on that team. And sometimes you get dynamics and
sometimes maybe guys get along, but they don't grow in
their games. And I think those are all issues, and

(51:13):
that to me is like on a on a more
intense local level, the tough part about it, because I
do agree with you that it's brought more attention and
has made it exciting. And every time Duke played in
this n C Double A tournament, we were watching and
it wasn't just because of the bracket. And I think
that the final four does lose a lot of the
buzz because they're not there. But for for these intense
moments of teams and construction and what you've got for

(51:36):
reserves and other guys not stepping up, I think it's
a negative effect. Yeah I don't, I don't disagree. Um
And as far as just the Duke's stuff, um no,
I was just gonna say, like, but I will say, like,
I think it's fair to criticize coach K in terms
of um, yeah, I don't want to say not having
them ready, but like we were saying at the top

(51:56):
of the show, like you have a bunch of the
best players, and so I would rather see him take
the blame than like Zion, like I'm glad this isn't
like a Lebron where whatever, Lebron gets his team to
the finals but they don't win the championship. It's like, oh,
it's not good enough. I'm glad that we aren't sitting
here today saying, well, so I was really the best
player in college basketball, Uh, they would have won the

(52:17):
chap because that that would have been ridiculous. So I
would rather see the blame shift a little bit to
coach K more so than the play. And it probably
should be for for the overall if there were issues,
because you know, he's the one that I mean, it's
his ship. I mean, that's that's the one that that
he's directing. Like that's fair enough. I just I don't
like the criticism of him of being like see this

(52:37):
is you were outcoached or you didn't you know, it's like, no,
they had him there they were. There were maybe deficiencies
that should have been corrected that he didn't attend to
or they didn't address, and those are things that maybe
fall on coach k instead of a instead of a
different narrative. Quickly, you mentioned the TV ratings. Steve di
Seger at the anchor desk has the ratings from the weekend. Yeah,

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and what did we see? What was it? It was
in an uptick because of those Duke Blue Devils. Duke,
it's the biggest rating, yes, of the four regional finals.
It was Texas Tech got a five point oh overnight,
Virginia six point six, Auburn's win a seven point one overnight,
the Duke Michigan State ten point five overnight rating, which
is higher than the title game, which was TBS last year.

(53:22):
Villanova's wing got a ten point three a year ago
for the final. Do you have any idea how many
like viewers? That is no, I know that I know
that actual viewers the weekend before with the Central Florida
Duke game was almost thirteen millions for a second round game,
and that was double what the Gonzaga game had gotten
in Sweet sixteen action as far as millions. And that

(53:43):
was Gonzaga Prime time. By the way, I'll say this
according to some website called The Daily Caller, which I
believe is the foremost it's the first one that popped
up on the Google search. They they said about eighteen
million people yesterday, which would be a bananas number for
a lead eight k. Yeah, it's something that the NBA
Finals we've seen. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, and

(54:05):
I've said this to Aaron before. The tournament committee when
they make the Brackett, they come up with TV regions,
and the regions where the Midwest and the East this
year where you could have the Duke, Michigan State, the
Midwest in fact at North Carolina, Kansas and Kentucky all
in the same region. While only one of those teams
made it, you wanted to make sure that you had
at least enough of a draw to bring people in

(54:27):
for that Sunday. They had a big draw for a
regional final. One year ago it was Kansas Duke that
got a ten point one. This got a ten point five,
even bigger than that. Thank you very much, Steve, he's
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him today on Fox Sports One. Speak for yourself doing
all of that and so much more now that the
final four is set, Doug, so much conversation about what

(56:17):
happened last night in Washington, d C. With Duke falling
to Michigan State and a lot of the blame on
coach k shoulders. How much of the blame it should
be on Mike Sachowski? What did he specifically do wrong? Well, yeah,
that's that's that's my question as well. We hear outcoached,
We heard maybe didn't didn't have a team around him,

(56:39):
maybe didn't develop players. Is any of that fair for
Mike Sachowsky? Totally? That that part is fair. I mean, look, yeah,
and I probably should have gotten this more when I
hosted the Hurt, but you know, just my show obviously
is both a little different. Um. The issue is recruiting
one and Dunes or being at Duke now is that

(57:01):
it's really hard to establish a bench and get guys
to buy in him bold and Marcus Bolden is a
McDonald's All American. Obviously he's still there and he's improved.
They don't They just don't have any other guards that
they can They don't have a Queen Cook like they
had last time, who's a last and No. One National championship,
who's a veteran who can make shots, and so your

(57:22):
options are kind of limited, like you know, Cam Reddish,
whether it was his knee or whether it was chess
cavity or just competent, like he's running hot and cold
all year long. But you know, they're just limited in
terms of the places they can get scoring from. Trey
Jones shot the ball very very well at point guard
UM in the Sweet sixteen, but throughout the life of

(57:43):
the year he's been a poor shooter. And you know,
at some point it becomes about getting the ball R J. Barrett,
get the ball a Zi Williamson and hoping they make
the right read the right play, and I thought they
did a pretty good job considering and Michigan Stag's got
grown ups, they've got grown men, and they're really of
a coach um. I would say if I was going
to be critical of coach k would be two fold.

(58:05):
One is that I haven't felt like for a couple
of years they developed much of an offensive repertoire. They
spend half the year trying to figure out what's what,
and then they they're very very basic and simple and
the stuff they run, because it changes year to year,
it's not the greatest in the world, is not the greatest.
Spacing as opposed to put the players in an offense,

(58:26):
spacing them out, having them move the ball, and you know,
making sure even though they can take guys against weaker teams,
you know, make them, make them execute so that when
you need an offense, when you need spacing and creativity,
you have it. The second thing would be, you know, look,
they're a team that scores off of their defense, and
Michigan State only turned the ball over seven times, and

(58:49):
yet they never really changed their defensive attack. You know,
part of it is you have to score, make your
second free throw to press, but Michigan State has one
ball him or Cassius Winston, they never won, just ran
at him and double team and got the ball out
of his hands laden shot clock. Why not? Why not tried?
Especially when you're playing a small end it it's really athletic.
So I felt like they just kind of lined up
and tried to play Michigan State and play a little

(59:11):
bit in their hands. And that's that fashion. And because
they hadn't developed an offense, you're not able to get
two points here, two points there, get enough until you
know it's R. J. Barrett and Zion Williams some time.
Instead the entire time you're depending upon runouts and in
great plays, you know, to keep you scoring. Doug, You've
been all over this U c l A opening here

(59:34):
now for three plus months. Um set Davis reported today
that U c l A reportedly offered six years, forty
eight million to John Calipari, which he turned down. What
do you make of that offer, Doug? And then too,
do you believe that U c l A really has
that much in the coffers? Are they willing to go
that high? And if so, how does that change the
landscape of who they might be able to get well, um,

(59:57):
this is like the worst of all stereos for U
c l A. I think that that that probably Calipari's
people put it out there first. That's that's less than
he makes now, so I mean, it would be classic
U c l A to go like, hey, you want
to leave Kentucky for U c l Hey, here's an
offer of less money, which John Caliparis is Okay, I'll
just get a better contract where I am. The U

(01:00:18):
c l A has historically underpaid guys very arrogant. Now
that's not an arrogant, like you know, forty eight million
dollars years not an arrogant. But considering you every it's public,
it's public knowledge. What John Calipary makes is a very
use lay off. On the other hand, when this happened
to DePaul last time they had a job opening, when
they had higher day later, once you put out a

(01:00:41):
number that we got eight million dollars. Now, none of
these other agents for all these other big time coaches
are like, hey, if Calipari's were the eight and more
worth eight, do I think they have the money? I
know they do. You know the Wasserman you know, Um
Wasserman clearly wants to make this thing happen. Um, I
don't know how they they come up to eight million
dollars for anybody else. You know, if you call Bill self,

(01:01:03):
he might be able to get him, because I'm not
sure it's not time for restart there. I don't know
if Tony Bennt takes it. I mean, you know this,
whoever loses in the whoever loses in the national semifinals,
gets a call. But I mean, really, Aaron, you know,
as much as I did, they've done a great job
of keeping this quiet. The only thing I had heard
was they want to make a huge offer to John

(01:01:25):
Calipari and they wanted, you know, they want the always
touch hold was like twenty million dollars up front, you know,
to get him to make the move. Um. So maybe
that's how they did at twenty million up front and
the rest is paid out over over the life of
the sixtieth the last five years. But uh, and then
you know, I've heard names like Mick Cronin and you know,

(01:01:46):
Tony Bennett and all those other names with dream candidates, which, uh,
it feels like they're waiting for people to lose before
they make the offer. This is such a weird reset.
But Gottlieb joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug,
who's talking college hoops with us. One more on u
c l A. It would the style work of Tony Bennett,

(01:02:08):
because when Ben Howland was going to final fours, and
know they weren't winning titles, but you know, there was
questions about the style and maybe it wasn't about just
getting the final fours, it was about bringing on the
national championship. But does the style have to play at
U c l A. I guess, I mean that's people say, right,
But I've noticed that the Virginia they kind of like

(01:02:29):
the style of My favorite style is the one that
has more points than the other team at the end
of the game. That is a really really good style.
Um So you know, I mean, look Ben howand they
started losing, He lost l a A. All the AU
coaches kind of turned on him. You know, the Drew
Holiday thing didn't work out for him, and by the

(01:02:49):
time he won the Pac ten his last year as
coach ul A, they that die was already cast and
he had to do so with kids from out of
the area mayor. And obviously you know you get you
brought um Kyle Anderson from from New Jersey, and you
Tony Parker from Atlanta? And who else who is the
other wing from the south that they can Adams? Right? Yeah, yeah,

(01:03:12):
they get Jordan Adams as well. And he had to
he couldn't recruit l anymore. Dam that's why he lost
his job. Um. Not because the style of play and
and you know, actually Holland's last year at u c
l A, they led the lead the pack twelve in scoring.
The great part about it. But um, yeah, I think
that's some of it. But you know, look, if you
want style of play and you want to win, you

(01:03:33):
want some recruit Like why don't they offer brute the job?
I don't you know, Like all right, he's had NCA
stuff like okay, and John Caliperry hasn't. Um, but Tony
bettets beyond approach. He's done an amazing job. It's a
great coach who's about the right things. I I just
I wonder if a guy would leave Charlottesville and if

(01:03:54):
you can get to a Final four in Charlotsville and
maybe win national championship in Charlesville why do you have
to leave? So this final four is obviously set. Um
just your first impressions. I mean, we got these four teams,
kind of four unique stories all in and of itself.
What do you think, Well, I would say defense wins.
I mean all incredible defensive teams. Um. I think that

(01:04:18):
people if you if you take a breath and you
don't look at the numbers for what these coaches make,
you start to realize why the coaches are so valuable.
Right Bruce Parl literally everywhere he's been he's won. Tony
Bennett has been at the Washington State where nobody won.
He got to the Sweet six team. Um, Tom is though,
I mean, it's unbelievable what they've done. And then you

(01:04:39):
know Chris Beard won thirty games in Arkansas, a little
Rocke year there, and it took him two years to
get Texas tech on. He loses four starters and they're
better so to the defense coaching. And then I've been
around actually all four of these teams this year, and
all four of the teams when you go to their practices,
it's just different than everybody else. There's just a you know,

(01:05:02):
the working expression is disconnected. You know, It's a little
bit like relationships. You know that some relationships people are connected,
some relationships are not. And in college basketball, some teams
you walk in and there's just a focus and a
vibe and a connection between the kids and the coaches,
and sometimes there's not. And all four of these if
you've ever been I don't know not how much time

(01:05:23):
he's been around them, but I've been around all four
and all four of their locker rooms and prices, and
they're all like, man, there's something different about that group
than everybody else. I was just gonna say, yeah, No,
being around Texas Tech this past week in Anaheim, it
was you know, something that I've tried to harp on
on my Saturday show is like Texas Tech making the
Final Four is like I don't know, Oregon State in
the College Football Playoff or Vandy in the College Football Playoff,

(01:05:45):
but you spend time around that team specifically, and that's
the only one I could speak for this specific season.
But it was like a team that really believed they
belonged on this stage. I was just so impressed by
being around them. Oh he's unbelievable. I mean, he's just
such an and I did us a little on Twitter
and on on the Herd, where basically there's a lot
of similarities to his mentors Bob Knight, and obviously I

(01:06:10):
think the common and thinks Abob Knight the streamer, the
yeller or the weird kind of TV personality at the
end of his career. But um, he's an amazing coach.
And the defensive concepts, the you know, basketball is four
times as a mental something something that you want to
accomplishes four times more mental, and it's physical. That's why

(01:06:30):
they four to one. His h is there kind of
team expression if you will, um, and even the motion
offense they run, which is kind of unstaltable. I mean
it's there's nothing more miserable than guarding motion when you're
a basketball player. And and and there's a thirty second
shot clock. I remember my first two three weeks of
practice of Notre Dame, Like you know, when you get

(01:06:52):
to college, you think you've I was really well coached
with my dad and my high school coach who's like
a successful junior college coach now, and I thought I'd
been through hard axes. And then you're like guarding a
motion offense for two hours in practice and You're like, Wow,
I either really really suck or this is really hard
because you don't know where the screens are coming from,
you don't know where the reds are because you're just
kind of bauling them around and guessing, and they're reading

(01:07:15):
you and they're making you guess wrong. So I think
there's a little bit of that in Texas Tech. Look
if you want to, if you want to actually dive
even deeper, which is very interesting. I mean, Virginia doesn't
run their old motion block remoter offense. Michigan States changed
much of their offense this year. Um and and Auburn
plays kind of unique style, but they've they've evolved and

(01:07:36):
changed some, Like now on He's all these guys good
and all these teams are connected, but all the coaches
have have tried to adapt their personnel to what they're doing.
Doug Gottlib joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
Before We Let you go, Doug, does Texas Southern have
enough defense to stop you? W g B Tomorrow Night
and the c I T That's our job, That's all

(01:07:57):
it is. That's all it is, our April Fool's job.
We had some fun with Rob Dowster and the cb
I earlier. You got the c I T question. I
don't know if I don't know if thank you, thank you,
thank you, I appreciate, I appreciate great. Yeah. Thanks. You'll
be back on your own show soon enough, a couple
of days, right, yeah, What do you got? What you got?
You to speak for yourself? The heard today? What you
got tomorrow? In right now? I'm gonna give you my

(01:08:20):
picture this alright, looking forward to it. Doug Gottlie posted
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Go ahead, do your thing, Doug. We appreciate the time.
Thank you, Doug. You just laughed at they see I
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(01:09:23):
Let the sports fans know you mentioned Texas Tech. That's
the number one team a regular season in field goal defense.
Opponents shot thirty seven percent from the floor. Michigan State
opponents shot thirty eight percent from the floor. That's the
matchup in the Final four this Saturday night. As for
college basketball news today, Belmont coach Rickford retired after thirty
three years at the school. His teams finished first in

(01:09:44):
conference ten times since two thousand six. Nine NBA games Tonight,
Detroit's at Indiana at seven pm Eastern. Blake Griffin of
the Pistons out with a sore knee. Andre Drummond, Player
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Week in the Western Conference Portland guard Damian Lillard. Portland's
at Minnesota tonight. MAV's rookie Luca don switches Dalfo for
the Dallas home game against Philadelphia this evening. Bruce stay

(01:10:06):
the problem. Utah's won four in a row and nine
of its last ten. It'll be hosting a Charlotte team
that's actually not out of the playoff chase yet. Week
and half left in the regular season. The Hornets record
is thirty five and forty one, but they're only three
games out of the number eight spot in the East.
The Miami Heat, with the sterling thirty eight and thirty
eight mark, they have the eight spot in the Eastern Conference.
Miami's at Boston tonight. The Heat a half game ahead

(01:10:29):
of Orlando, which is won seven of eight, so they're
up to thirty eight and thirty nine and not out
of it yet. Orlando's at Toronto this evening, and those
Milwaukee Bucks can clinch the number one seed in the
East with a win. Tonight at Brooklyn and if Toronto
loses at home to Mighty Orlando, but Milwaukee's three games
up this late in the season. Jacksonville Jaguars signed running
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(01:10:52):
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The Pittsburgh Pirates headed early for nothing lead. It's now
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Indians are scoreless against the White Sox. Top of the second.
They shoveled all the snow off the field. It's sunny
in thirty seven in Cleveland, Ohio. The Yankees host Detroit
in a couple hours. The Yankees placed Giancarlo Stanton on

(01:11:13):
the injured list with his strained biceps. He was hurt
last night Colorado at Tampa Bay. This evening, the Rockies
officially placed infielder Daniel Murphy on il with a broken finger.
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for someone you didn't really care. You didn't think that
you you matter, didn't you know, the outcome really wasn't

(01:12:18):
important to you. But then as the game goes on,
you kind of just start to say, why am I
pulling for this team? Like I'm starting to like you're
somehow brought into that game. I am, and I think
I know where you're going with you, and I agree
with you on this one. It was Saturday night. Now,
I'm not gonna talk about brackets or anything. I had
an interest in Virginia and I had an interest in Purdue,

(01:12:40):
and it didn't matter. And in fact, when both of
those teams one on Thursday, I thought, you know what, good,
someone's gonna get the monkey off their back. They're not
gonna have the deal with the questions about going to
a Final four. It's gonna end a school drought for Virginia.
It would be a great story from the turnaround from
a year ago for Purdue having so many chances and

(01:13:02):
coming close, and even after last year with the injuries
to Isaac Coss and what they had to go through,
like there was an opportunity for both schools to really
shine and go to the Final four, so one of
them would not have the the drama and everything that
came with the Final four drought with them anymore. And
as I'm watching the game and I see how it unfolds,

(01:13:24):
I find myself pulling for Purdue. Such a big tent homer.
It's and and there's really there's really no reason to
but for the simple fact to sit there and I
see Virginia and I think, you know what, if Tony
Bennett stays, they're gonna have more opportunities. They've been a
number one seed before, They're probably gonna do it again.
I think it's a bit more difficult for Purdue and

(01:13:45):
Matt Painter for what they've done. I've done a great
job with the program, but they're not the elite eight.
And Purdue is in a sentence that you get a
lot of They've had opportunities and opportunities in the past
that have seemed like, Okay, this is the time in
two thousand they end up losing to a consin and
so to see perdue and not only to see them
falls short, but to see the miss free throw by

(01:14:07):
Ryan Klein, to see the non box out, and then
the game dying. Jot. It was yesterday that I was
still feeling bad for the boiler Makers. Not that I
wanted Virginia to lose, but there was just that game
stuck with me. To see how Purdue ended up losing
on Saturday night, Well, Matt Painter called it the longest
five seconds of his life. That tip out and something
you and I were talking about a little bit before
we went on air. Here is the number of things

(01:14:30):
that had to go wrong for Purdue to win that game.
And I'm with you is like I came in like, Okay,
either team wins. I kind of be happy for Tony Bennett,
saying with Purdue them into a final force in um.
But with the way that Perdue kept battling back, with
the way Carson Edwards, by the way, super random from
an interest standpoint, I think you can argue we got

(01:14:51):
like the worst possible final four just because everybody wants
to watch Duke Lover hate Kentucky. You want to see him,
and then everybody wanted to see Carson Edwards the final four.
So I hadn't really thought about it until this exact moment.
But back to your point, all the things that had
to go wrong, from the made first three free throw
from Virginia, the miss second one, the tip out, the

(01:15:12):
wherewithal from Key Clark, the guard from Virginia not to
dribble it, not to pick up the ball, not to
shoot it, but to pass it uh to that set
up the game tying shot which forced overtime. I did
feel like there was a little basketball karma after everything
that happened last year with Virginia. But to your point,
I listen, it's Monday. I still feel bad for producing. Yeah,
Like I look back and I know Tennessee fans don't

(01:15:33):
have an ounce of sorrow and was no. They they
don't feel bad at all, considering they felt they should
have been playing on Saturday. But just to see how
it was, and there was there was a shot even
in the produce crowd where everybody was hugging when you thought,
all right, you just make these two free throws and
that's it, you know, And I see Jeane Katie and
Gene Katie never got to coach in the final four,

(01:15:54):
and to see him in the stands, yeah, I started
up to I guess I audit it for Purdue. I
have Virginia in my brackets winning at all. But it
was something about that Purdue team and that story to
see what Carson Edwards was doing that just you know,
like Virginia, if they don't win a national championship, you know,

(01:16:14):
we think it's gonna be Michigan State Virginia. And Virginia
is the top seed. You could say that they're the
favorite just getting to the final four I think was
big for Purdue. Maybe Virginia's got other now bigger fish
to fry with winning at all, but just to get
there for Purdue would have been gravy enough. And I
feel bad for him. Feel bad for him in West
Lafayette really quick. It was funny because my Saturday radio partner,

(01:16:35):
Ernie Spanier, who some would say is a little Mr Negativity.
That was the first thing he brought up was the
crowd shots of the Produce fans. He's like, oh, you see,
they were celebrating and they were all and He's like,
I don't feel bad for them. The game wasn't over.
I'm like, come on, Arenie, you gotta you gotta go there.
They just lost twenty seconds ago. He's aerator as you
can hear him with Arnie. You'll love it o'clock Eastern
time Saturday nights on Fox Sports Radio. You can hear

(01:16:57):
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Wright on First Things First earlier today so that there's
a team in the NBA that can take down the
Golden State Warriors, and they don't reside in the Western Conference.
If Philly gets to the NBA Finals, meaning they have
beaten Toronto in the second round and then either Milwaukee
or Boston third round, it will mean that what we
saw rear it's ugly head in the playoffs last year

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then playing four on five offensively, that they have found
a way to solve it. That they are either coaching
around it or they have changed their rotation latent games
as such to where it's not an issue. It will
mean Joel and bead is playing the way we have
seen him play for stretches this year, where he has
been for weeks at a time, the most dominant player
in the league. If they get to the NBA Finals,

(01:18:52):
their ceiling is to win the championship. You think they
could beat Golden's Yes, that was earlier as Nick Wright
was talking with Chris Brusshard in that moment, heard Chris
Chris's voice there. The one point that I would say
is what the Sixers have and really Milwaukee has it
as well. There isn't anybody that Golden State in my
mind that can that they have that can match up

(01:19:13):
with Joel Embiid or match up with Janice and athletic
bigs have given the Warriors problems, So that would fit
some of the recipe of maybe taking down Golden State. Listen,
I'm all for anybody saying that Golden State isn't a
sure bet, because I don't think it's any fun for
us to be like, oh, who cares what happens? Golden
State is gonna win again? They might, they might, But

(01:19:35):
to sit there and think it's gonna be a cake
walk and there may not be you know, potholes and
pitfalls along the way, I think is I think you're mistaken.
So to next point, I think the seventies sixers would
be a better matchup in that case than that. I
have a tough time with them beat although I do
like the Warrior's head to head over Philadelphia. Yeah, I
do too. I mean, I still look back on that
Houston series from last year where the Rockets were Chris

(01:19:57):
Paul hamstring away from beating Golden State. War potentially they
were up three to two going into Game six. Uh,
and look, the Rockets have been white hot since the
you know, the last couple of weeks and they're currently
sitting in third place. I know they have some different
pieces from last year. Trevor Reaves is not there anymore
all that, but I don't think Golden State is unbeatable.

(01:20:18):
I'm just not sure that Philly, which has one playoff
win as a as a as this group of guys,
and not even really this group of guys because the
bias Harris Jimmy Butler weren't there last year. I'm just
not sure that team is it. But I will say
the next point is if they get to the finals,
it will mean that they went through a tough path
to get there. Yeah, that path. This is a whole
another story as well. And the Sixers didn't get a

(01:20:39):
good win about a week or two ago in Milwaukee
and in taking down the Bucks who are playing without
Malcolm Brogden. And the talent is there when you when
you when you put the talent up, And that's always
been my issue with the Sixers. And I know the
conversation of me hating Ben Simmons is probably going to
come out. It's not so much that I that I
dislike Ben Simmons. I just think that embat is so

(01:21:00):
head and shoulders above everyone else. And when you're talking
about threats that he's the most dangerous one. And then
you've got now Jimmy Butler, now Tobias Harris, and you
still have j. J. Reddick. That's pretty formidable. I don't
think it should be. Well, they've got em beating Simmons,
like I like those other names before here Ben Simmons name,
oh yeah no, and Ben Simmons is the well probably

(01:21:22):
the second biggest guy because of Joe l em beat
is such a personality. But I think people still look
at Ben Simmons that number one overall, picked the guy
that we've compared to like a magic Johnson. But we've
also learned in the last year or so that there
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A lot to go, uh yet, as the NBA playoffs

(01:22:05):
are gonna start in less than two weeks. He's eron Torres.
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the Duke Blue Devils were robbed. We'll tell you why
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robbed in just a little bit. But we've got news
about Johnny Mentel. What what's going on? Well, I don't know.
I mean, I don't wanna jump to too many conclusions here,
but he left his a F game with an injury.
He also recently his wife announced that they were split

(01:22:47):
up because in her own words, I believe her exact
quote was that vows were broken. Um, and it didn't
seem as though they were necessarily done on her end
of things. So anyway, um T m Z apparently has
video of Johnny walking out of a West Hollywood nightclub
a little after one am early Monday morning, So we're

(01:23:08):
not accusing him of anything, but he was there. Was
it a concussion? Is that what he did? He suffered?
I believe so. And I'll tell you the same thing
when when Urban Meyer had his retirement party at Live
nightclub in Miami. If you have head trauma, I don't
know that the nightclub is the place that you want
to hang out at if if your brain is allot
I will say this in Johnny's half, The Alliance of

(01:23:30):
American Football could fall tomorrow. So that's at that's out there.
Like when I say tomorrow, I don't mean it like
general know. The chairman said that Tuesday could be the
day where they end up pulling the plug on the league,
which by the way, has two weeks left of its
regular season and then the playoffs still to play. Can
I just say I never bought this notion, even when

(01:23:50):
they did that monster number the first week. I was like,
people don't like there's enough bad football in the NFL
When half the quarterbacks get hurt by the end of
the year. People don't want to now watch bad spring football.
I never bought that this was gonna be a real thing.
So far I've been proven correct. Yeah, I just I
don't too much of even the NBA, which is you know,

(01:24:11):
grown in the last ten years to crown a champion
that they do, and around mid June, have the draft
in late June, and now free agency takes you into July.
With training camps opening up in September. Because of the
early mid October start, there is one month that you
have of no basketball. And look, we all love basketball,

(01:24:32):
some people love it more than others. But at some
point you just need a little break. And it's the
same thing with football. Of like, I don't need more football.
One of the things that makes it so great is
that it's only in this four month window in the fall.
It's not that I'm I'm having with draws what I
like to see eighteen NFL regular season games. Sure, I'm

(01:24:52):
fine with that, but i don't need it in the
February and March. I'm I'm fine with it right well,
especially bad football. I mean, it's one thing if it's
an e T game schedule you get two more weeks
of Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady, but two more weeks,
there's six more weeks of Christian Hackenberg and Trent Richardson.
I mean, call me crazy, but uh, you know, it's
like it's like saying, hey, uh, you just had uh

(01:25:14):
you know, you're a kid, and you just had broccoli
and whatever for dinner. You don't want more broccoli for dessert, right,
so that you know, it's like it's like, you know,
I don't know. That was probably a terrible analogy, but
neither here nor there. I just I never bought that
this was gonna be a real thing. He's Aeron Torres.
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seems like I've taking up for Duke. I had coach
Ka's back. I'm i the one in Dunn's I I
think it's a it's a maybe a bigger problem. I'm

(01:25:58):
not ready to put as much on Duke and coach
k but Duke was robbed, and they weren't robbed in
their game against Michigan States, and it had nothing to
do with their close calls against UCF in Virginia Tech.
But the point comes to this, when we see a
final forward, we see how things have played out in
the bracket. A lot of times there's a conclusion that's
drawn that is completely incorrect here, and and that conclusion

(01:26:21):
is how the bracket turns out. Tell us tells us
if the committee got it right or wrong, and that
is such a misconception and I and I just I
don't agree with that at all. There's not one part
of that that I think is correct. And when I
see what happened to Michigan State on selection Sunday, and
now that we know Michigan State is in the final four,

(01:26:42):
that doesn't justify the committees move to put them in.
In fact, all of the reasons why I thought Michigan
State got robbed in the selection process are now the
same reasons why I think Duke got robbed in the process.
My argument was your you put me Chigan stayed in
a regular season champ and tournament champ in a region

(01:27:04):
just because that regional was closer for them to travel
and not had nothing to do with the opponent that
they played. Now, as we see it, with Michigan State
being the only two seed to advance to the final four,
we said it didn't matter. Michigan State didn't need it. Well,
the road that Duke had to travel, they shouldn't have
had to have played the best to see that. That
team shouldn't have been in their bracket. They shouldn't have

(01:27:24):
had to play a conference foe in Virginia Tech in
the sweet sixteen, which by the way is only about
a four or four and a half hour drive from
Blacksburg to Washington, d C. To get their fans there.
There were a lot of things that were against Duke
in this tournament, and their draw was not favorable. We
can point out all the different things that went wrong
with Duke on the court, but off the court, they
didn't seem to get any favors from the committee. Yeah,

(01:27:46):
and it was really interesting because after this game went
finally last night, I was I have a buddy on
the Michigan State staff, and I was texting him and listen.
My sense was that he's very grateful for everything that
that has happened, but he also was kind of like, yeah,
like we should have been a one seed, And is
he a little bit bias? Yeah, But when you sit
back and you think about it, Big Ten regular season champ.

(01:28:08):
By the way, the Big Ten has had a phenomenal
n c A tournament perdue, as we discussed, basically a
miracle away from being in the final four. Iowa almost
upset Tennessee, Minnesota, won a game against Louisville. Ohio State
won a game against Iowa State. So a really good
tournament for the Big Ten. Michigan State was the Big

(01:28:28):
Ten regular season champ, the Big Ten tournament champ, and
they did it in a twenty game conference schedule. And
so from Michigan States perspective, it's like, not only did
we get screwed by getting stuck with the number one
overall seed, we thought that we should have been in
consideration for a number one seed. We spent so much
time we being the media on selection Sunday. Does Gonzaga deserveone?

(01:28:49):
Does North Carolina deserve one? What about the SEC champ
that we kind of just glossed over the fact that
Michigan State was really awesome all season long, and looking
at how things played out, as they said earlier, I
don't think that that would that that's the argument for
the seating. But if you want to use that argument,
then you I don't know how in the world you
can tell me a Michigan team was better than Michigan

(01:29:10):
State when they lost to Michigan State three times and
failed miserably in their Sweet six team games. So even
if you want to use the see the bracket plays
everything out and tells you how strong a team is, No,
that shouldn't have happened. If the bracket was supposed to
play out the real way, it would have been one
two in every single regional and the ones would have
advanced to the final four. If that if that is

(01:29:31):
your argument, and that didn't happen, and I just I
look at what Michigan State had to go through. And
now you're Duke sitting there, you're being like, Okay, we
were the number one overall seed. What favors did we
get from the committee in our road to try to
get to Minneapolis? And they didn't have They didn't have
many favors. Tony Bennett even mentioned after the game of
them being put in the Louisville region with the original

(01:29:52):
with produming their tons of fans came from just across
the river from the state of Indiana and then came
down from West Lafiat to go to louis Over that game,
he said it was a true road game. He even mentioned,
I don't know how you know the number one seed
ends up in this regional, but there were misses by
the committee. Virginia was able to navigate. There's Duke wasn't.

(01:30:14):
But that doesn't excuse the committee for what went on.
Just they they missed on a bunch of stuff, and
it seems like they miss on a bunch of stuff
year after year. Yeah, and it's funny. I remember going
on with Clay Travis on the Morning Show right after
the bracket came out, and during the SEC tournament, John
Calipari called for let's just go back to the true
S curve. And for what people don't know what the

(01:30:34):
S curve is. It's literally, uh, the best number one
is put with the worst number two, regardless of region,
regardless of affiliation, geography, whatever. Obviously, the worst number one
seed would be paired with the best number two seed,
and so you know, I think that the committee spends
so much time trying to figure out, Okay, well, this
team won't have to get on a plane to go

(01:30:55):
to this site, and it's like just trying to make
the bracket as fair and balanced as possible. And I
think there were a lot of reasons that Duke lost
yesterday outside of the fact that they played a really
good team. But I think to your point, um, asking
the number one overall seed to play the Big Ten
tournament at the Big Ten regular season champ and tournament
champ ended up biting Duke in a way that if
they had maybe Tennessee or Michigan or somebody else in

(01:31:17):
the number two seed in the region at one, and
then they end up maybe playing a three or a
six seed or whatever it happens. But the point is
is the Yeah, the same conversation that we had two
weeks ago about Michigan State getting robbed as the same
conversation that you can have for Duke, And maybe we
should have had it for Duke at that time since
we were so focused on what happened to the Michigan
State spartans. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. This is

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Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyers sitting in for Doug Gottlieb
on this Monday, this April Fool's Day. I hope nobody
was harsh. You had one joke pulled on you where
they weren't letting you into the building. Yeah. Our buddy

(01:32:45):
Michael lying Guard, who just not a very nice guy,
just put it that way. He just he just sent
the poor in turn to the door and she wouldn't
let me in. And I was, you know, I wanted
to get to our show meeting. I wanted to be
prepared when I came on air, and she she slammed
the door in my face on michaeling Guard's suggestion. And
I didn't. I've never once in my life pulled the

(01:33:08):
do you know who I am? Card? But I felt
like I had to. I was like, I have to
do a show here coming up, like it's I'm on
air soon. Did you see the Bears once? By the way,
not not to interrupt your story, because he was finally
let inside, Bye bye, Mike Lingard. But the Bears they
released tweets that they were gonna wear jerseys like Mitchell

(01:33:28):
True Biscu is gonna wear. Yeah, I don't know. I
think given about a six you knew it was so
so out there that it couldn't have been true. It
had to happen on this Did you see Tom Brady
had yes his retirement tweet? So Tom Brady opened a
Twitter account in March. He had never retwired, never tweeted,

(01:33:51):
and on April first, the side to tweet, I'm retiring.
In my spare time, I'll be tweeting hashtag l f G,
which I think everyone could figure out. And then he
got crushed for it, and so he did do a
follow up tweet which said, was this a bad joke? Yeah?
It was Tom. Tom, by the way, stands for or

(01:34:12):
I should say, currently stands at one and seventy six
thousand followers. So which is he had LIKEWD when I
saw this this morning? Just open it today hundred and
seventy six thousand followers for Tom Brady. That is no
April fool's joke. He's skipping meals, maybe having a hard
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skipping meals, but he will be skipping games, missing the
final six games of this season. The Lakers are shutting
down Lebron James after his first season in Los Angeles,

(01:34:57):
putting an end to the first year of his four
year contract. And as I sit there and I see
what's happening with the Los Angeles Lakers and and big
picture wise, if you're a Lakers fan, you shouldn't be outraged,
and in fact you should. You should be more in
tune with what reality is. This is that this is
a team that was never going to compete for an

(01:35:18):
NBA title this season, not with Golden State, not with
Houston being at the place they are, not with the
rest of the the West, even even playing to their capabilities.
This was a team that was not gonna win an
NBA title. Just wasn't going to happen. And now with
Lebron James being in l A, with everything that has happened,
it is best for Lebron James not only miss these

(01:35:39):
next six games, but it's probably best of the Lakers
long term future. In my mind, Aaron, that Lebron James
doesn't play another seven game series in the playoffs, right,
another fourteen games during a playoff run where they wouldn't
win a title anyway, in my mind, it is almost
a blessing in disguise for Laker fans that Lebron James
is sitting out and missing the playoffs. I vehemently disagree. Um,

(01:36:03):
I think we can all sit here and say, look
us at the beginning of the season, realistic expectations weren't
a championship. But I also think that look, you and
I both live in l A and the Lakers coming
into this season hadn't been to the playoffs in five
straight years, and they've been through the rebuild. They first

(01:36:24):
they went through the Kobe retirement, then they've gone through
the rebuild. They've gotten excited for the young players. And
this was supposed to be the year while they were
not going to compete for a championship, that they were
gonna break through, Right, they were gonna get into the playoffs,
they were gonna get those young guys reps. They were
gonna figure out who's worthy of staying, who's worthy of going,
who's gonna be the number two guy behind Lebron? And

(01:36:46):
I feel like we're right back where we started on
opening day, only I think we're in the worst position
because Lebron got hurt this season, he missed time, He
clearly doesn't like the guys that he's playing with. He
doesn't like his coach, by the way, either, And so
I just sit here and say it's be on year
one being a waste. I think it was a step
in the wrong direction because there are so many questions

(01:37:07):
going into the off season. Are you gonna be able
to get another free agent? Are you gonna be able
to trade Francy Davis, who's going to be the coach,
who's actually gonna be here? I just think it was
a disaster of a year one. And I don't think
Lakers fans should sit back and say, well, you know, well,
he's not playing the playoffs, so it's good and long. Well,
the Lakers, though they don't. They don't play to play
in playoff series. They play to win titles. And in

(01:37:30):
the Lebron scenario, whether whether Paul George was gonna come
to l A or not come to l A. The
point is is he makes up his mind to go
to Oklahoma City and not join the Lakers. It was
one of the first decisions we had a free agency.
So when Lebron goes and joins the Lakers and makes
the announcement in the press release that he has signed
a four year deal, and was asked in the training

(01:37:51):
camp about what he was going to do and if
there was if he was going to make a commitment
to l A. He even joked and saying, well, I
did sign a four year deal. I don't think what
people saw Lebron's on a four year deal. They thought
he was gonna bring in four championships. I'm not even
sure if Lebron wants to win one championship. But I
can tell you this, if he does win one championship,
but sure he wasn't gonna happen this year. So if

(01:38:11):
you're talking big picture and if you're worried about the
workload that Lebron has on his shoulders and what has
happened right now with the Lakers, it's best for him
not to play these six games. It's best for them
to not get out into the Western Conference semifinals because
all of those games, whould just add more tread to
the tires of Lebron. You've got to maximize when he's
got those three, but it would have added tread to

(01:38:33):
the tires of Kyle Kuzma and Josh Hart and Lonzo Ball. Hypothetically,
you can't win a championship with one player. And you
look at when he went to Miami. It was the
second year that they won the championship, but they had
been to the finals year before. When he was with Cleveland,
he went to they won the championship in year two,
but he went to the finals the year before. Like,
Lebron can't do it himself. And yeah, you need other

(01:38:55):
guys around him, but you need guys that have playoff reps,
even if they trade for Anthony Davis. By the way,
what's he played in three playoff series his entire career.
He's won one playoff series. And so to me, yes,
it's about preserving Lebron. But guess what, he had a
month off in the middle of the season. And so
now you're talking about next year, we have to hope
that they wont get another guy that too. There isn't

(01:39:17):
out of the quip. For as much as you people
want to say, oh, it's not gonna happen. There's still
if you had to pick any team for Anthony Davis
to go to when it becomes a free agent or
possibly gets dealt this offseason, what's the most likely team?
It is the Lakers. But again, to expect them in
year one to make this monumental leap year one of
the Anthony Davis Lebron era or whatever, to expect him

(01:39:39):
to make this monumental leap from not even in the
playoffs where half the roster as it's currently constructed, who
knows who's gonna be here and who's not has never
played in a playoff game. Two, Now you're magically gonna
win the championship next year? Or is it probably gonna
take another year? So now you're talking about year three
of Lebron, So this year was a waste in my union.

(01:40:00):
Next year, okay, you get the second guy, you make
a little run in the playoffs, but you don't win
a title. Now you're asking year three when Lebron that
will be the two season Lebron's gonna be thirty six
in the middle of that year, Like I just think
at a certain point, like it's it's wonderful that this
is a four year contract, but Lebron's also in his

(01:40:22):
mid thirties right now. He doesn't have that second piece.
The younger guys didn't improve. I just don't know where
this team is after one year. What would have been
the perfect scenario then. And listen, there's two different there's
two different things that that we're saying. Here's I'm sitting
here looking at the Lakers and their decision't decision to
shut him down in the end, I think it's better

(01:40:44):
for the Lakers, And that's my point. I'm not saying
what happened with New Orleans and the trade situation that
fell through because of the pressure they put on the Pelicans.
I'm not saying all that was gonna and I'm not
saying that this season was a success. But if you
really look and you're a Lakers fan, Lakers fans don't
care about playoff births. They want championships. And the way

(01:41:05):
to get a championship with Lebron James is to make
sure that when you've got the pieces, that everything is
in order. And that's where I think when you look
at what has happened with Lebron, sure things could have
gone a lot better. But I just don't know how
much things have necessarily changed in the season where the
championship wasn't the expectation. I just look, I think it's

(01:41:27):
so funny, right, because we have this deal in sports,
and it's kind of like the It's kind of like
the Duke conversation we've had all day. If I had
told you the beginning of the year, the first game,
before the first game, Duke has four freshmen, like, what's
a realistic expectation. Well, you know, they'll probably they'll get
to the tournament, they'll probably, you know, they'll they'll be good.
They got four freshmen that are all Americans, but you

(01:41:49):
know they get the Sweet six team whatever. But then
the season plays out and you're like, okay, well this
is completely different. And the end result with Duke was
about what we expected in the preseason, which was, yeah,
they're a good team, they'll get they'll make a little
run in the tournament, but they're not really a national
championship contender. Well, I think it's the same thing with
the Lakers. I think it's easy to sit here today

(01:42:10):
and say, on whatever it is April first, like, well,
you know, we we knew they weren't gonna win the
championship anyway, So it all worked out fine. It's like, no,
it didn't work out fine. First, what I'm saying at
I never said it worked out fine. But I'm saying
is you look back at the scenario of what is happening.
You could have tried to put all your chips in,
and all of a sudden, now you've warned up trying
to put all their chips in, not for not for,

(01:42:31):
not for the the playing of Lebron. You just said
that if even if Anthony Davis came over in mid season,
you weren't sure of what was going to happen, Well,
Luke's gonna be gone, you're not sure about the Alonzo
ended up not being healthy. The pieces that that you'll
have in the future, whether it be a new coach
and whether it be a healthy Alonzo or whoever comes in,

(01:42:52):
are going to be better than what you had in
this past season. And there's no point in resting or
no point in playing Lebron right now during this time
when it's when it's meaningless, and if you step back,
it's just they weren't going to beat the Wars even
if everything went right. For them this season. They weren't
going to beat the Warriors anyway. So would you rather
cash in Lebron and year one of the four year deal?

(01:43:14):
Would you rather make sure that things are better? Just
like Boston waited out Lebron. That was the whole thing
in the East. Let's wait for the Celtics to make
their move. Let's wait till he leaves, and then we're
going to capture the Eastern Conference. Well, maybe the Lakers
are saying, hey, all right, we'll wait till this. Kevin
Durant ends up going to the Knicks and the Warriors
kind of fall apart in Clay Thompson's got a decision.

(01:43:34):
That really was the plan. Why did they try to
trade half their team for Kevin for Anthony Davis? Well,
because he became available at that time. He forced it.
He didn't become available. He demanded a trade with only
one team in mind that he was gettable. He could
have been gettable. I just think I just think it's
so preposterous to sit here and say that year one
was not a complete waste, because one we're gonna have

(01:43:57):
to start over next year with a new coach too.
If you really go back to say the day after
last season ended, when we kind of knew that Lebron
was coming, but we didn't. We thought there was gonna
be a second guy here with him, first of all,
probably Paul George. That never happened, And so I don't
know how much further along we are other than that
Lebron is now a year older. Do you think do
you think with less games that could have been played,

(01:44:19):
and that's part of the argument, do you think that
this drama of the a D trade, if all of
these pieces are here on the court with the players
next year, do you think that can carries over into
next year. I think eventually guys get over it. But
I also think again, I think it's stunted their growth
as players. I think it's stunted the growth of a team.

(01:44:40):
And now next year, again, Lebron is gonna be a
year older now with some injury history on them, those
guys really didn't develop. I mean, Kuzma is a little
bit better. Whatever. Um, they're gonna have a new coach
and a new system. So I just I just feel like, yes,
it's okay to say year one. I don't want to,
you know, I don't think anybody would call it a
quote unquote row Away. But I think year one was Okay,

(01:45:02):
we're not gonna win a championship, but you wanted to
see steps so that in year two it could get done.
I think to your point, there's no reason to think
that those steps can't happen between now an opening night
next year. My point is we have no proof, no
no data to prove that those steps will be taken. Well,
that's that I would rather though, if there is no proof,

(01:45:23):
I would rather make sure that I've got a guy
with not as much on his on on his wheels,
if you will, I keep on using the tread on
the tires reference, but I would rather be in that
situation than where down Lebron another year of him playing
nine straight months of competitive basketball. Yeah, and look, I
mean look, if the question is should he be playing

(01:45:44):
in the Lakers have been already eliminated, of course not.
But I guess to my point is, um, I don't know.
I just I just think that I just think it's
been such a disaster, it's been so disappointing, and now
you can sit here and say, yeah, let's rest him
up for next year. But it's also like, well, what
was the point of this year. If you're taking the
Sacramento Kings for an example of a younger team that

(01:46:06):
hasn't had the culture of winning, and I'm not using
them in the Lakers of being a drought because the
Kings and Lakers are two completely different franchises. I can
understand the Sacramento Kings and wanting those guys to get
a taste of all right, let's let's try to make
a push for the plaoffs. They're gonna fall short, they're
not in the postseason. But the point being is, I
don't know how much you need that for the Lakers

(01:46:28):
because you have Lebron and you've got other pieces and
who knows what other pieces are gonna be there. Plus
Lonzo Ball would have been hurt anyway. Yeah, I mean
brand Ningra I'm a guy. I know that you're not
huge for being superstar in the NBA. I mean, how
much can you necessarily count on him? Maybe there's a
movement made with that. I'm just saying, as you step
back and you think of the season, it's like in

(01:46:48):
the NFL, would you rather be eight and eight missed
the ploffs? Would you rather be three and thirteen? You
know that's why. That's why teams end up if they're
not going to make the the NBA playoffs, So like
we might as well tank because otherwise we're gonna get
stuck at nine or ten in the lottery. I find
the Lakers, and not that they're they're tanking for a
better draft pick, but why make the ultimate push to
try to you know, to try to use up everything

(01:47:09):
that you've got for a year where you're not going
to get much out of that, you know, out of
that orange that you're trying to squeeze for juice. That's
what that's the point of it. I got a lot more,
but I know we gotta get That's all right. We'll
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(01:47:54):
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(01:48:16):
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(01:48:38):
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By the way, Steve, he's heeron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer
as someone who follows the Lakers and as a Laker fan, expectations, desires.

(01:49:41):
Are you a championship or bust guy? What were you
expecting from the nineteen Lakers? See, it's not it's not
so much that they didn't win the championship, but to
say you canna hime in here too. It's about the
process and write like a championship team. And we've talked
about it the n C Tournament. There is a process

(01:50:02):
to getting there, and I feel like that process has
been stuck in neutral. If not, it's the car at
the top of the hill rolling back down the hill
right now. That's where they are in this process. I
was talking with long time l a fan Steve Hartman
over the weekend, who co hosts Mr Stats. He said,
in forty of the first forty six years and the
Laker or something like that, they only missed the playoffs

(01:50:23):
six times, and now they missed six in a row.
It was something like that, but you know, at the
six bad years, which are almost the six worst years
the Lakers have ever had, and they're all in a row.
This is actually the best of the six years, by far,
the most wins they've had in these I mean, they
have the best player in the world. I would hope
it's been better than when Alonzo ball and Smush Parker

(01:50:43):
and whoever, hells I know, Smush not there. I just
want to throw out that name. But I would hope
it's better than did you see the lineup a week ago?
Is there? The Bucks played their JV team, by the
way last night against Atlanta, and yeah, still every time, Yeah,
you're still getting these limbs. Here's right point. I'm not
I'm not saying that this has been a great season
for the Lakers. It's not. It's that's not my argument

(01:51:04):
at all. But when you're looking at what is the
most valuable piece of that organization right now in the
time being, when you're seeing Lebron, to have him not
play these games and to shut it down, and I
don't care about the fans tickets in the final six games, whatever, No,
I don't, you know, whatever, Guys get injured. If Lebron
tweaks his ankle and misses three games, you're supposed to

(01:51:27):
give all the fans their money back. So you're saying,
because it's a legitimate injury, that's why you don't have it. No,
I'm just saying that as a fan, you have when
you buy a ticket to a game, there is there
are times when you get a great pitching matchup, and
then there are times when you get to number five
is going against each other in baseball, it happens. You're
not a lot of times you're not saying, hey, guess what,

(01:51:50):
we're gonna go see Verlander and sale down at that
at Minute Made Park, you're like, all right, I'm gonna
go see Astro's Red Sox. That's awesome and then even better. No.
But the point what I'm saying is this is that
you when you buy a ticket for a fan. That's
why I don't feel bad for fans, is that there's
always a risk that comes in it. Like if Lebron
sprains his ankle and doesn't play, are you going to

(01:52:11):
go back to the Lakers and say I want my
money back from my tickets. No, you're not gonna do
that's right, because it's a legitimate injury, which is difference
than some of the other conversation during an NBA season,
so called load management, where guys are just sitting but
still the NBA's collecting the eight two games a year
money and and and that's more of a TV issue
as well. I think with what happened with the prime

(01:52:32):
time we're getting off base here of of the conversation.
So we're saying Lebron sitting out because of a legitimate
injury late season, Yes, well, just there's there's no there's
no point in We're going in three different areas. Aaron
wants to say something, and I was gonna say to
get back to your point. You you bring up a
valid point of yes, in the long run of the

(01:52:56):
four year window that you have that you know you
have with Lebron, if you missed the playoffs and you
get some rest on him, that it could be beneficial
in year two, year three, year four. I don't disagree
with that. That makes perfect sense. But my point is
why are we at the point that Lebron can take

(01:53:17):
time off because the team isn't going to make the playoffs.
It's because of not only the fact that he got injured,
which he never had before he came to l a
the fact that, oh, by the way, the team crashed
and burn. That's my point is, if you just want
to say, in the grand scheme of this four years,
it might not matter, that's fine, But you know, Lebron
could decide to retire tomorrow. I can only go on

(01:53:38):
the data that I have right now, and my point
is is that in the grand scheme, it probably isn't
that big of a deal. But how did we get
to the point where Lebron is where the Lakers are
choosing to shut them down. It's because they were so
disappointing through the first sixty five or seventy games of
the season. They were disappointing. After he came back from
his ground injury, it was from mid January to mid

(01:53:59):
February where it really win the trade because they were
still First of all, there was a one point in
the season where the Lakers thought that they had one
of the top two or three teams in the NBA.
That he misses the month from Christmas Day until the
mid to late January, and then leading up to the
trade deadline, you've got the Anthony Davis stuff where it
all falls apart. All while the Lakers were hovering around

(01:54:19):
that eight spot. That's where seven or eight spot, even
with him and Rondo missing a month, then Lonzo Ball
also gets hurted. So it wasn't a whole season, it
was that that fraction there. But if you were from
the beginning again, it's just the point of with everything known,
now you know what you're gonna do in the offseason.
Maybe I'll get some shooters in there, guys who can
actually shoot the basketball, and see what you can put

(01:54:42):
Ron Lebron and see how that can can be better
than it was this past year without having the issues
that maybe you're having right now. Yeah, And like my
point is like you can sit there and be like, oh,
you know, me and my wife got in a fight
last night, and uh, you know, twenty years down the road,
this is gonna help us because we solve this issue
in the moment. It's not great that you're in the

(01:55:02):
middle of a fight, like and that's my that's my
only point with Lebron is maybe in three in three
years from now, four years of the Lebron he or
they have three titles and we can all wash this away.
But what I'm saying is based on the information we
have now, I don't think there's a reason to think
that this is going to get better. And so, like
I said, I can only go based on the data
that we have at this moment. I just I look

(01:55:24):
at it and I say, all right, even if Lebron
doesn't have any intention of actually wanting to win a championship,
you know, like, even if it's Lebron, I still think
that the fans have that expectation. And it's funny. We
were talking with Doug Gottlieb earlier about Ben Howland and U. C.
L A. And the mention. I mean, I remember when
they got to the third final four and went to
each one of them the third one, are like, alright,

(01:55:45):
we're gonna go and lose again. And then they did
in San Antonio and lost in another final four, and
you're like, alright, like you see it, it was all
about championships. And that's what I look at the Lakers,
even even with the bad string, I still think it's
about titles. And when Lebron came the Lakers, it's not
like we're gonna get back to the playoffs. It's like,
all right, we're gonna get back to title time. But again,
it doesn't go from we missed the playoffs and we're

(01:56:07):
a total disaster of a team that hates each other too. Oh,
we're champions, let's have a parade down Sepulvida. Like it
doesn't go from A to B. There's a process along
the way and right now, like like, okay, if the
beginning point is the day Lebron signs and he's got
a bunch of young guys and all that stuff, blah
blah blah blah, and the end point is a championship.
Are they closer today to the beginning point or the

(01:56:29):
end point? I think they're like one step away from
the beginning point and nowhere near championship. Well, look what
happened in Cleveland, and it took them just one off
season to do so it Maybe you'll take the Lakers
a couple, but they went from nothing when Lebron showed
up and Kyrie came into his own and then you
get Kevin Love and the rest is history. He's eron Taures,
I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show on
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He's aeron Torres. I'm Dan buy are glad to have
you with us hanging out this afternoon? Is the final
four is set. I was curious on how the games
we're gonna break down schedule wise, schedule wise of the

(01:57:37):
day because they like to put the marquee game late,
and I wondered what they thought would be the marquee game,
like would it be the top seed Virginia or would
it be the number two seed Michigan State And ends
up being Michigan State in Texas Tech playing the late game.
So Virginia and Auburn go in game one on Saturday. Yeah,
I was telling you, I think that Michigan State it's listen,

(01:57:57):
all these big ten schools are the same. Their ma massive.
They have massive enrollments, massive undergrad massive alumni bases. Uh,
Penn State is like that, Wisconsin is like that, Ohio
State is like that. In Michigan State is one of
the biggest public schools in the country. You'd be amazed. Actually,
when I was down at the West Regional last week,
the number of Michigan fans that that are in the

(01:58:18):
area is incredible, And so I think on a national
brand perspective, Michigan is Actually Michigan State is probably a
little bit bigger than I think most people realize. Magan
just fly over like Michigan, over the great state of
Wisconsin and landed in Minneapolis for a nice short hour flight.
An say, do we know how far the drive is?
And it's what you gotta go with depending because you
gotta go around the Lake and then through Chicago and

(01:58:38):
up to Minneapolis. I was just curious because I think
they're gonna bring about a million fans. That's why I
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(01:59:01):
to get us caught up to date of all the news.
That's fits a print in the press, or fit to
say as well, Steve, you bet you if you go
for me? Slanting by the way to Minneapolis. Apparently it's
an over six hundred mile drive there Chicago. Yeah, you
gotta go through Gary and then through You could cut

(01:59:22):
some time and just drive through the lakes. See how
that works? Well, you can you. I don't think the
ferries open though to mant Walk or Shaboygan yet, so
I don't think that's the case. I'm tapped out on that.
When you beat me on that seth David's reporting that
u c l A did ask Kentucky for permission to
speak to coach John Calipari and it was granted. In
The Athletic, he writes Kentucky has offered Calipari what's essentially

(01:59:44):
a lifetime contract extension in response to the lucrative offer
that U c l A offered Caliparia deal worth about
forty eight mill over six years. The contacts quote between
Calipari and U c l A had been more extensive
than previously reported. Interesting. But as as we spoke with Doug,
and I think you said, if you put this out

(02:00:05):
there and now Cal's value will go up, I don't
think that there. I don't see any reason to leave
Kentucky by your own choice. Let me just put it
that way. And I did disagree with Doug a little bit.
I know he said, now all these coaches are going
to think that if U c l A has forty
eight million to spend on Caliperry, they have forty eight
million to spend on me. I think you C l
A wanted people to know, hey, we're willing to spend

(02:00:28):
top dollar. So maybe Caliperry says no, But maybe Tony
Bennett loses on Saturday and says, you know what, five
million a year to live in l A doesn't sound bad. Yeah,
it's like I haven't it going to rent. I just
by the way, I just don't see the fit at
all of Tony Bennet, just like it doesn't it doesn't fit.
I know that there are certain schools around the Midwest
that would love to see Tony Bennett you go there.

(02:00:50):
But you know who else doesn't fit in l A
And I would love to see him? Here is Chris Beard.
Chris Beard is is Cowboy Boots and Michelobultra and like
that's who he is. I mean to say, are you
spend a bunch of time around on him this week?
It's it's the city like he's a great coach, but
wouldn't fit at U c L. I don't think you know,
as soon as you said somebody that wouldn't fit in
l A. I thought you were going to say Arnie
span here. I honestly did. He doesn't fit anywhere. He

(02:01:10):
doesn't fit on Earth, planet Earth. He think he keeps moving,
that's true. Still on Fox Sports Radio though from anywhere
on the planet. He's still on Fox Sports Radio. Well.
Our next item on this April the first World Team
Tennis run by Billy jen King Still tweeted out that
Lebron James we'll be playing mixed doubles for one of
their teams in the summer season. April fools, right, I assume,

(02:01:34):
So that's fun. However, it comes on the same day
that World Team Tennis actually released their schedule, you know,
like Venus Williams is going to play here on this date.
Their season goes July four. You're shutting down Lebron, so
he's fresh for the mixed doubles, which brings us to
our next item that Lebron James spoke with the athlete.
Hold on a second, Aaron had something to say. Oh no,

(02:01:55):
I was gonna say two things. One to say, are
you're about to get to to fun fact for job
in sports internship with World Team Tennis, just saying Hartford
Fox Force suwhere of like O five. I don't know
so much the team name, the Fox Force. I don't
know what that meant. But that's I don't want to
talk about it anymore. Okay, too much. If he was
in charge of media, which was singular, yeah, it was
not plural. Lebron is gonna be in production on Space

(02:02:20):
jam To this summer. According to The Athletic, the set
will feature a full length basketball court so he can
train during production. Of course, he has no playoff games upcoming.
The film is produced by Lebron's production company, not going
to be released into theaters for another couple of years,
but because quote it's not a good summer for me.
He's busy. He's not gonna play for Team USA during

(02:02:41):
the Feeble World Cup in China this year. Here's the
other thing. It's not gonna be It's not gonna be
watched by me. So I'm not jam By the way,
Mark Stein New York Times says USA Basketball intending to
at least gauge the interest of Zion Williamson for the
twelve man roster. This, yeah, it's pretty cool. This is
like the qualifying turn for the Olympics. I believe and

(02:03:01):
be cool to have him on the roster. Mexico is
three teams in the tournament, right, coming out with a
Fox News joke. Come on there, that's all right. We
can wrap it up. Thanks Steve to hanging out there
and press. That was the press. He's Aaron Torres, I'm
Dan Buyer. Nobody got that one. Come on, it's April fools. Hey,
there you go. They all got it finding Aaron on
Twitter at Aaron underscore Toras, I'm at Dan Buyer on

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