August 3, 2023 • 38 mins
The Doug Gottlieb Show is live from Rams Training Camp in Irvine, CA! Doug reacts to the big news of the day regarding the Big Ten possibly expanding even more to include Oregon and Washington. Rams GM Les Snead joins Doug to discuss the team's shift in mentality regarding draft picks, Cooper Kupp's health status, and expectations for Matthew Stafford coming in to the season. Plus, the guys draft their favorite all-time Rams!
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(01:19):
I think in Thousand Oaks, where the Rams normally trade
changed train, it is still very much active. We get
the Big ten news of the day and then I
want to talk some Rams.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Let me just kind of give you.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Every business is different, and I think it's really interesting
that the news is that the commissioner Tony Battiti. And
if you know Tony, if you know our business, I
don't know if you guys know this. He used to
run CBS Sports and then he ran the MLB network.
So a guy who now in the commissioner side has
(01:53):
a working knowledge of all of the TV people and
what they want, but he had to be granted permission.
And this is one of the I got a chance
to know the previous commissioner of the Big Ten, Chrishioner Warren,
who just left for the Chicago Bears, and one of
his things he said that was different about working for
a conference as opposed to used to work for the Vikings.
(02:13):
Now the Bears is like when you work for the Vikings,
your boss is the owner. When you work for the bears.
Your boss is the owner. When you work for a conference,
you got fourteen bosses, you know, and some bosses matter some,
some presidents matter more. All the presidents are new, but
him being new, it's like he actually has to ask
(02:34):
can I have permissions?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Can think about that now?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Like your commissioner of the Big ten, like, hey, can
I go talk to Can I am I allowed to
talk to them about?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's a weird existence.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
But the exploring adding Oregon in Washington, it's really simple, right,
It's really simple. They're just trying to lay and wait
and see if the PAC twelve collapses. Is it smart
to have four schools on the West coast so that
UCLA and USC have somebody to compete against that they
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don't have to go and fly across, you know, across
into the plains and the northern Plains and the Midwest
in order to compete. And it is just that cost
benefit analysis to it. And you're waiting on the se
on the acc which yesterday the big news was a
bunch of Florida.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
State trustees are like, we're out.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Just tell us when somebody wants us, because we this
thing is in a poop show. And I believe the
destruction of all things we know in college sports will
be complete once the conference reshuffling goes around. Now there's
a chance to kind of save it. But here's the thing, like,
this is what not enough people ask themselves. I understand
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that the Big ten the SEC are going to survive
because of the gigantic TV numbers money that they're getting.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I believe the Big twelve will also survive.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
They're getting a handsome amount, and then there'll be a
fourth conference.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I don't think there's just gonna be three. There's gonna
be something.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Else out there, whether you combine what the remnants of
the ACC and the remnants of the PAC twelve, or
the PAC twelve becomes this power West conference and think
at them, and you know, maybe there's two big ones
and then three smaller ones. I don't know, but college athletics,
I always thought, why do you go think of the
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teams you went to, the teams you cheered for as
a kid. Now sometimes it's because well that team was awesome.
Like how many Miami University of Miami football fans are
there because they were awesome?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I mean, look, I grew up. I grew up literally
fifteen minutes from here in city of Orange. I was
an Oklahoma football fan. Why because I used to flip
it on and they were awesome, and they would then
they would lose in the Orange Bowl, and then you
had dudes walking around with AK forty sevens and that
thing didn't go well. But they were cool, and I
became an Oklahoma fan. Remarkably end up going to Oklahoma State.
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But for the most part, the school I went to
see the most was UCLA. My sister went to UCLA,
she was a cheerleader. My brother went to UCLA. We
went to UCLA basketball, UCLA football fans even though we
have no My mom's in Syracuse, Salum, my dad's inn.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Ohio Statelum, we have no ties to it.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's regionality, right and your rivals are USC your rivals
are Cow, your rivals are you know. They used to
have a great when Don James was at Washington. Used
to be a really good rivalry with UCLA, super high
talented teams. Was just never great in terms of consecutive
bids towards a Rose Bowl, Ucla Arizona basketball again all
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in the same region. Well, we've destroyed all that with
all the conference shifting all the one hundred year rivalries.
It's like, yeah, we've been playing you for one hundred
years and our conference are schools aligned, but we're gonna
go get a check. And then the other thing that's damaged.
And this has nothing to do with it, But it
really is all about greed. And I on some level
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I don't blame athletes now because the schools have become
so incredibly greedy towards it. And some is it's just
out of survival mode. They don't get any money from
the state anymore. This is the way you create revenue.
But schools aren't loyal to conferences, so athletes aren't loyal
to the schools. And the other reason I always thought,
(06:16):
you watched a school player, you fell in love with
the players you saw him.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You remember when he signed, he kept an eye on him.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Maybe he played a red shirt as a freshman, he
worked his way up, and by his junior year he's,
you know, an All conference player by a senior or
maybe he's an All American. Right, well, those days are
they're not completely gone, but mostly gone. Because if you
don't play as a freshman, you're like I'm out, you know,
And if you don't play as a sophomore, you're definitely
out and you just kind of bounce around school school
(06:43):
or sometimes you play and another school that maybe has
deeper pockets says like they're not supposed to, but you
get word through intermediaries because the players are allowed to
have agents.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Hey, if you move, you're gonna get twice the money.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So there is absolutely no loyalty, and college sports is
one percent about loyalty. When I was on the first
ever espn U show, it was actually from Stillwater, Oklahoma,
and I only know three oh four oh five, right,
that was It was cool.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That was a launch date O three oh four.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh five, And the initial ad campaign, which was a
really good one for ESPNU was never graduate. It was
the idea that no matter where you go, no matter
what you do, your school is you cut me open
and an orange blood comes out. And there is zero
loyalty to conference, zero loyalty to coaches, and of course
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coaches because of that loyalty of like I'm I'm gonna
bounce to the next thing as well, and the players
have acted in kind. The number one thing about college athletics,
by my estimation, is you know, like loyalty and love
of school and university above all else, which builds the
rivalries and then of course region Now all that's gone.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And I don't think we're the better because of it.
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I just don't.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
It's funny because Oregon and Washington potentially going to the
pack or the Big Ten is not what USC would
want for them. And that's it's because USC wants to
be so even of everything that you've just talked about,
of all the changing and how everything is different, that
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is different like that, that is you know, Penn State
joins the Big Ten, and I know it's thirty years ago,
but it fit like it may have been the school
that was the farthest east at.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
The time, but it fit.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
It fit with the Ohio State, it fit with the
Michigan and the Michigan states, and honestly, even Nebraska fit
like it. It worked for Nebraska may be better off
in the Big twelve or in the Big Eight, but
it wasn't craziness to put Nebraska into the Big Ten
and to hear the Oregon and Washington thing and then
hear the schools that maybe know them the best not
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wanting them there.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Everything's up said.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Well, that's again out agreed, because hey, we want to say,
you know, in recruiting in southern California or in all
of California, we're the only school that's in the Big
ten outside of UCLA. And you know, at USC they
feel like we recruit a different level than than UCLA does. Right,
So that the it's fascinating and the only thing that
you can count on is change, right, and we And
(09:34):
the crazy part about the sport is in many ways,
it's better than it's ever been because, yeah, because now
we're gonna have a playoff, like a real playoff.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It's better than it's ever been.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Because because of the real playoff and because of the
twelve teams, teams are gonna have to up their schedules
in order if if it gets close, you're gonna have
to have played somebody. It's better than it's ever been
because the TV coverage is just phenomenal. And you know,
you go back back in the day, and you know,
Notre Dame was NBC and every we'd have it just
a couple of games. Now there's not a game you
can't watch. But despite the fact that so much of
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it's better, it's a lot worse because I mean I
just you're an Ohio State fan. How many of their
starters can you name today?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It'd be you know, it'd be difficult, but it'd be.
You know, get in.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Twelve you can gain twelve starters.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I mean, it wouldn't be. It wouldn't be. The twenty
two is my my point?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So I like as I I know, I could probably
do three at Oka mistake sure three right, three? And
that's my school. I couldn't do like any other school.
There's a couple of everybody knows Kaylea Williams. Can anyone
name anybody else who plays at USC?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
This is USC?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, because everything changes, Like I don't even think guys
at Colorado know who the guy is sitting next to
them at the Lion in the locker room?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Hey man, what's your name?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Steve? Where are you from? Then? Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
How long you have been here? A couple of codays,
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Speaker 3 (11:15):
So this is year six of coming here. I think
it's year six.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You're six of coming to UC Irvine to watch the
Rams practice, and every year is different and distinct until itself,
right like when they drafted Jared Goff, it was, oh,
you know, like what now, a sudden change is here,
and then he was supposed to redshirt his first year.
Then he ended up playing, and then by year two
you're like, okay, Goff, girly, this is a good club.
(11:45):
And they end up going to a super Bowl that year,
the Super Bowl. The first Super Bowl year, you walked
in and you knew they were.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Going to be good.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You knew they were going to be good.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Then they lost most of their offensive line after that
year and it was a down year. Right then they
recovered and when they got Stafford, you felt like that
year it's going to be special. Last year you had
the sense of man, they went all in and it
was a short off season and everybody got a new deal,
(12:17):
like Cooper Cup got a new deal. What's the name
of the defensive learned Aaron Donald got a new deal.
Lesnie got a new deal. Remember there was talk of
Sean McVay leaving. He got a new do.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Everybody got paid. But that doesn't always.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It felt like there was a there was a cliff
they were walking off of, and then injuries and there,
and of course they're losing Stafford and it became a cliff.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
This year.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
You walk in, You're like, I have no idea. I
have no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
There's some pieces you like, but the the.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Their whole thing was draft picks don't matter.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
F them picks, and now everything is you know, we
could be really good if these draft picks of the
past two years are good. It's just a completely different
way of looking at your team and building expectations, and
there's just so much unknown, so much unknown.
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was I was a little surprised, right. Darnelle Mooney is
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a wide receiver with the Chicago Bears. He said this
about his quarterback, Justin Fields.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
I would say within the playbook, there's no confusion there
at all. He's just I know where I want to
go with the ball. I know where this play is
designed for. I know the covers that I want to
get this done in. And even like during walkthroughs, he's
will do like like two minute drill and he's calling
the plays itself. So it's something like he wasn't able
to like do last year for sure, just because he's
(14:51):
learning this year, he's doing that. He's taking control of everything.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So it's it's honest, but maybe a little bit honest
to a fault, right, Like he just now knows the
two minute drill. That's kind of alarming, right, especially considering
and I'm just using my rams knowledge. Do you guys
remember when Baker Mayfield beat the Raiders last year and
he was there for like two days, and what was
he able to do? Learn the two minute drill in
(15:17):
a in like a half hour? You know, So this
is not me saying it right, This is remember, this
is not me going, hey man, I took out a
whole year when learned two minute drill. This is his
wide receiver going well, now he knows two minute trill
to Baker Mayfield like fifteen minutes ago, Like oh yeah,
this is this and this is and it's again, and
(15:39):
let's be honest. For Baker, he had played a lot
more college football than Justin Fields. And one of the
things that I was always told when he was drafted
was he's a whiz at the whiteboard. But that's a
little alarming, a little alarming. Let's let's get an update
from Dan.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
If it was big deal, a little deal, no deal,
This would be a little deal. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yes, yeah, I mean second year of the Mattiberflus era,
third year for Fields in the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Give him some leeway. Baker had a lot of turnover
in his time.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
But Freddy Kitchens did get the job because of his
relationship with Baker, So there is the tied end. So
I'll give Justin Field some slack. Hey better no, no, no,
what now than never?
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Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Do you guys know anybody who watched the USFL or
the the XFL.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I did not take an interest.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I know we didn't. Do you know anybody who was like,
hey man, you see that game?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
No? A few. Our buddy R. J.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Young, who covers college football doesn't for Fox, but that's
about it.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
He's not one for me.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know anybody who who watches it. So football
has been like on your television set a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
But you're like, what is that? Who are these teams? Now?
You get two teams to teams names, you know?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So uh, I'm quietly kind of I just I mean, like, look,
you're watching for like the first series, it's the Jets,
so you'll have an interview with with with Aaron Rodgers,
it's the Browns. Do we still here's a question, do
we still talk about the Deshaun Watson story or is
that no longer a story?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
I think we've moved on from it, but there's this
dark cloud that hangs over the organization.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
It's it's the complete it's the situation, it's the contract,
it's all of it. The Browns don't have that underdog
feel anymore, and I don't I think that the story
is over with. I think now the conversation, honestly will
come if the Browns don't have success and what that
(18:19):
means about the money that they gave Watson and where
they are as an organization because all of it was guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Okay, that's a I mean, the dark cloud is the
perfect example, right. They just can't they don't feel like
they can just go out and play and see how
good they are, you know, And that's amazing that here
they have. They were a feel good story. Was like
(18:46):
four years ago they were a feel good story.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, when they were losing all those games, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
In one game in two combined years. Yes, Then they
quasi turned around with Baker his first year, second year,
made the playoff and then it is has gone to
pot since. So it's a it's a fascinating deal and
I just I can't tell like it's a weird team
to where you're like, okay, it's not really still a story,
(19:13):
but it's still kind of his lingering story.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah. They it's it's always going to be there.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
It's like that maybe the chance of rain in Florida
or Seattle, it's always going to be there.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Let's welcome in less need. He's the general manager of
the La Rams. Two years ago won a Super Bowl,
and we were sitting here last year and we thought
you would get a new contract.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Then you got it.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Like literally, I'm driving home and my phone blows up
and as like, oh, let's need agree. You know, it
was announced your new contract, but what's fast?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Was done?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
While was doing you? Ready?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
No, it was, and it was done probably a long
time ago, and you just waited to announce it.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I forget that timeline.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So, okay, this is every year we've come here.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's been different, right, Like I remember when you got
golf and all of a sudden it felt like, okay,
they got it, they got their next quarterback. And then
by year two he felt like he belonged. And by
year three now the sudden contender felt like for a while.
And then obviously when you brought in Matt there were expectations.
You guys lived up those expectations, won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Everybody kind of got new contracts, but there was so
much change, especially in the lines, and then you had
the injuries. You couldn't play up to the level that
you wanted. This year feels like an unknown to most people.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
What are your expectations?
Speaker 6 (20:26):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
The great point expectations is to take it step by
step a little bit like when we started this thing,
and even in all of those years, and I'll go
back to what year was at the twenty one season
that we won the Super Bowl. When you're at training
camp and when you start, you can't say, hey, let's
go win a super Bowl. You still have to get
(20:48):
through training camp, get through preseason, get through the season.
In that year, we had to weather a three game
losing streak with a buye so over thirty days without
a lot in that process, losing Robert Woods but on
board and Odell Beckham Junior. So there's a lot of
change to point being it Like we always say, let's
(21:09):
keep the main thing the main thing. Let's try to
do something good for Rams football today. That usually leads
to playing quality football on Sundays, which usually leads to wins,
which you lose usually leads to chances, you know, to
compete for championships and tournaments. But it's still one step
(21:30):
at a time.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Lesnie joining us general manager of the La Rams, Doug
Gottlieb show here live at the RAMS training practice. We
got walked through about to getting away. Then of course
they can have a practice a little bit later on.
We appreciate you taking so much time.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Do you need go no cliche? Huh, just to say
you just probably were thinking he just gave you the
most cliche answer. But I can tell you a little
bit cliche if you knew the intensity that Sean has
during a lot through and the standards for what you
would realize. Okay, one step at a time like that
walk through, Oh if these guys aren't dialed in and
(22:06):
there's mental errors, oh that the next two hours for
seaness So just I knew you were thinking, oh, what
a cliche answer.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
No it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
There was there was some cliche, but part of cliche
answers are accurate because you know they've been repeated time
and again for a for a reason. Matt Stafford and
obviously injury, tough injuries season last year, talk of him retiring,
talk of him being traded. Now he's back and he's healthy.
How would you characterize matt Stafford with your franchise.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
You know what's really neat is the part on the
health part, because you could see in OTA's. Wow, That's
why Matthew Stafford probably was a five star if they
had stars back then, while it was one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I after his na they had stars back then.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
By the way, when he signed at Georgia, I was
working in the ESPN radio Melchiper Junior. He's like that
guy's men number one overall pick like he had that
Lord Tortu. But he they were, they were stars, But yes,
go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
So watching him in OTA's and then this year I
was able to I was down at the Manning Academy
and was able to see some of the better college
Q beats throw the ball around. And however, many years
into the league, Matthew Stafford is compared to that, You're like, okay,
wait a minute, that's a that's a six star. They
may be five stars, but his arm't. So to see
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him healthy the neat, I would say, the rose of
last year's thorn was in Matthew's case, probably in Cooper's
case and Aaron Donald's cases. When those guys so many
years in their league actually have to sit out more
than half the season, there is an element where, wow,
you you take time to reflect the I actually miss
playing this game. So there is some roses to last
(23:42):
year's thorns. But the health is the number one.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Well, I know, and we always already had Cooper granted,
just a hamstring, okay, but you know you missed, you
missed all the time last year. And of course he's
had you know, previous injury going back a couple of
years ago. What's that like, as you said, to watch
him and he, thankfully just the hamstring the other day.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Thankfully just a hamstring and a minor hamstring. Because if
you've ever if you've ever probably had a let's call
it a kid in high school and you, oh, it's
a hamstring, and most people think it's a year, a
week away and you're back. That's usually not the case.
With hamcreens, springs. It's usually is a four to six
week process, this depending on the string, this one being minor.
The neat thing with Cooper is seasons not till thirty
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nine plus days away. There's plenty of time to get
that hamstring ready. He's a veteran, he'll be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
What about Sean? You know there there was taka Sean
going and doing something else. Signs a big contract last year.
Obviously now he's married, kind of is it has? What's
he like from your perspective in terms of how he
goes about his daily business?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I think that was one he would tell you this.
He's articulated in many ways that the let's call it
the the rows of last year's storm for him, distress
and drudgery had had caught up to him. It's I
mentioned the people all the time before. However long he's
been our head coach, probably the moment he got the
play calling job in Washington, probably two years before we
hired him. He had been running an eight hundred meter
(25:06):
competitive eight hundred meter every day. Wasn't going to be
able to sustain that, But like anyone, there was this
element that he had to age into it realize, okay,
wait a minute, I got to do some things differently
to be able to sustain this pace. And the pace
is not being okay, we're going to run an eight
hundred meter every single day. It's gonna be we're gonna
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run some eight hundred meters, but we're going to be really, really,
really fresh when we do it, and there's a way
to do that, and I think that's what he was
able to intentionally set his mind to this offseason.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
What's it like for you, Lesnie joining us here in
the Doug Gottlieb Show live at La RAMS training camp.
For you, you know, two years ago it was we
don't need the picks, We're going for it now. So now,
as you said, it's kind of going back to the
past where you need these young players, first and second
year players to develop.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Me.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
He had a litany of fifth and six round picks
this year and they're you know, fighting for right their
survival right now. What's that like for you to evaluate
and put your ultimate fifty three roster together?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
The neat thing is, even in the past we have
had to rely on players in their rookie contracts and
key roles, we might have had a few more veteran
core players to mix in with them. So this year
being different is instead of Jalen with let's call it
players on their rookie contracts. It may be all players
(26:33):
on their rookie contracts in the in the defensive back end,
so that's we've been through that before. We're used to
relying on players on rookie contracts important roles. This year
we're gonna have to rely on more of them. And
interestingly through it all and I get all the reasons
why that's the narrative, but probably in the last six
years we're probably I know we're either number two, three, four,
(26:55):
but I think we may have climbed the two after
this year with fourteen picks that over that time span,
we've basically had the second to third most draft picks
in the draft, so we've definitely valued draft picks. We
have used some of our early draft picks differently than
let's just saying drafting.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Sure, And I would also it also changes though your
preseason plan for the games, right because Sean has always
play with my starters, but there's so many young guys
fighting for spots.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Doesn't that change who you're playing?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
When you play, it will not be like years past,
but it will be like years past. And I know
he had some names, you know, because we do have
players like Rob haven't seen Tyler Higbee, some players that
have been here since our first Super Bowl into the
second Super Bowl. So the player the team does have
some core veterans that will get the let's call it
(27:46):
non preseason play treatment, but there is an element of
trying to engineer as as competent a collective as possible.
And because we mentioned we're gonna let's talk the defensive
side of the ball, there's a lot of players on
their rookie contrac on that side of the ball other
than Aaron Donald, and so we're gonna need those guys
to jail during the preseason.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Of the things you've seen in your time in the NFL.
And I know he's not part of this team now,
he's fighting for his spot in Tampa. Baker coming in
with almost no prep, running a two minute and winning
you a game that I mean, there's one a lot
of highlights last year because all the injuries, right, that
strikes me as as remarkable a win as you can think.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
We mentioned roses to last year Thorns. I think I
had mentioned this to Baker that somewhere along the way
twenty years later, when we're all sitting around talking about
football and there's gonna be some really neat moments on
the timeline. But in the midst of that very bad
season for us, that's gonna be a moment we're gonna
talk about. You're gonna that story is gonna get told.
(28:46):
That is that is I mean, what did he get
here on Thursday? Yes, yeah, that's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yes, they played on Sunday and Sunday.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Night Vegas had to lose a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yes, yes, I'm not sure why they're impressed man coverage
that play either, but hey, you'll you'll take it. I mean,
but to run a two minute when you I mean,
we just played a cut with Justin Fields. He just
now a year in learning the two minute Baggers, they're
like fifteen minutes, like I got it, learn about it.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
It almost interesting looking back in at it telling about
two minutes. I've heard quarterbacks, the young quarterbacks say that
when you do get in the two minutes, sometimes there's
an element you're going fast. It's not you don't have
a lot of time to think. Yeah, so there's just
an element not necessarily easier, but they're just reacting. They're
playing QB like they used to, where sometimes as you
start a game and you get normal down in distances
(29:36):
and you're listening to coaches and you're trying to strategize
and you're overthinking it when you get in two minutes like, okay, wait,
this is backyard, this is high school. I've done this before.
Give him credit. He has that, he's got kind of
that that's in his DNA. He's Baker Mayfield's made for
that moment.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yes, and it was, it was, It was something to watch.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Last thing, we mentioned all the young players, and you're
saying we think we're probably second most young guys. There's
no hard knocks out here, right, So the beauty to
hard knocks is you find like a young guy and
you follow him.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
You have so many is give me a young.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Guy who has really impressed you, maybe more so than
even when you dress.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Would be a tough It'd be like the Bachelor, whatever
Bachelor show there would be. We'd give fifty roses.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
You could give who would get your first impression?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Rows, Oh, watch this rookie long snapper, rookie punter, rookie kicker.
And we only have those three on the roster, those
three and they got a lot of responsibility. Yeah, are
they gonna win the job? Are they gonna actually be
useful to us.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I thought you only have those three in the roster.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah, only though, so, but technically there's a cuts and
things like that. But I give those three. The reason
I say them is to non answer kind of keep
some guys.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Rookie long snapper is a lot like the baggage handling people.
You can only talk about him when something goes wrong.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
And the punter is like about six foot five if
you if you YouTube, he's dead lifting and cleaning and
he's never held before because he was punter and kicker
at win Gate College. Have you ever heard of win Gate?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I actually have heard of wind Gate, which state North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
There you go. So, point being, we had to teach
him the hold. There, come on, now, I love that
good pull, great pull anyway basketball it's at the basketball bit, yes,
But point being, you had to teach him the hold. Yeah,
and now you've got a whole rookie operation. So I
give those guys, and they're actually doing a really, really,
really nice job.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
All right, Uh, unless I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Obviously, it's tough sledding out here in Irvine with the
with the breeze coming off the ocean, the eucalypsus trees,
but continued health to your team, keep Cooper and bubble
Wrap and we can't wait.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
To see you a week one of the season.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Thanks for having me all.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Right, that's a less need.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
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Speaker 9 (33:18):
This is Game Time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
All right, Dan by, what's the game today?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Doug? The game today is.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
I feel a draft that is actually the breeze coming
from the ocean that you hear. Two round drafts, eight
picks in all, John Ramos, Jason Stewart, myself and Doug
Gottlieb today drafting our all time favorite Rams, our all
time favorite Rams. John Ramos, you have the first overall pick, Doug,
you will pick second. Jason is third, and then I
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go fourth, and then we snake it back in reverse order.
John Ramos, your face favorite all time Ram is.
Speaker 10 (34:02):
Well, my favorite all time Ram played in super Bowl
fourteen on a broken Legwell, no, he did play in
super Bowl four That would be Jack young.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Jack young Blood.
Speaker 10 (34:13):
Yeah, number eighty five.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Here the jersey I had the jersey.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
That's right, Yep, that's Joel's.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Brother, right, Joel young Blud's brother.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
No, but he did have a brother, right. There was
another young Blood on the team. But I don't think
they were brothers.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Oh okay, there were two young Bloods on the same team,
but they weren't related. Yes, wow, I got it because
Jack was actually on the jersey.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
It wasn't like Jay young Blood.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
It said Jack above young Blood in like eight font
and then young Blood was.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
In like fourteen size font. All right, Jack young Blood's
off the board.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I know who he's gonna go with, Marshall fulk whoa
that is not who I thought he was going to
go with.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Marshall is my I mean, I think he's, if not
the greatest running back of all time. He's in any
any conversation, passy, catch it running. He was awesome, awesome
in college. Awesome is a pro. I'm Marshall, Folk's my guy.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
All Right, Jays Show Enter Jason Stewart, you pick third,
drafting our all time favorite Rams.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
I can't believe this guy fell into my lab because
when I think all time RAM, I think Los Angeles Rams,
Douglent was Saint Louis, which is fine, but I grew
up ten minutes dougle dispute this ten minutes from Anaheim Stadium,
and I watched this guy's entire RAMS career in the eighties. Uh,
and I got the pleasure of working with him in
(35:39):
recent years. Eric Dickerson, my all time favorite RAM at
third is a steal.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Wow, it's a really good pick. A lot of good
names coming up here. I'm gonna ride Shotgun with Doug
in Saint Louis and I'm going Orlando Pace all time
great former buck Ey, Yes, hall of that's an upset.
Orlando Pace goes number four and number five. This is
(36:05):
actually going to be a real upset, and I know
he was out here recently. Todd Light cool. And the
reason being is Todd Light used to work at Fox
Sports Radio. He and I together went to the one
versus two Ohio State Michigan game in two thousand and
six at Ohio Stadium in the seats that were owned
(36:29):
by Orlando Pace. There it all ties in together. Todd
Light goes number five.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Todd Light goes number five.
Speaker 11 (36:37):
All right, Jase Doo, you're saying that, you're saying that
I get to the fifth pick or sixth pick, and
there's not been one quarterback ticket.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
We have not taken a quarterback in the all time RAMS.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I thought Doug was going to take a quarterback at two,
but I was surprised.
Speaker 11 (36:53):
I'm going to stick to the kind of the same
era a little bit before. But I grew up ten
minutes from Mannheim Stadiums and I watched the Sky go
to the Super Bowl in nineteen eighty, the same super
Bowl that Jack Gungbud played in. Vince Farragamo is my
all time favorite RAM quarterback.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Vince Farragama.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Now, what was the story.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Did he have an affair with Georgia frontier or did
she just didn't be infatuated with him?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
What was the what was the story?
Speaker 6 (37:18):
I didn't know about the affair part.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Again, maybe i'm you know, there's John John.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
I can't comment on.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
That discretion as John's greatest valor.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You talk about the difference in that and like the
stories nowadays? Right, female owner? Anyway, I gotta go Kurt Warner.
Is there a better story in the history of American
sport than Kurt Warner?
Speaker 9 (37:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Okay, I should do a movie about it, A bad
one with Shazam.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
All right, John? Your last pick, well, Chris Chandler. No,
I'm joking.
Speaker 10 (37:56):
It's gonna be Jackie Slater.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yep.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
Jackie's later another offensive lineman who's one of the Rams,
best besides Orlando Pace in the history.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
No current Rams, not one. That's game time.
Speaker 9 (38:10):
Oh no, you're right, this is game time on the
Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I mean, if I had another pick, I would take
Cooper Cup. I think he's incredible.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Weird interaction between Trayvon Diggs and Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
What's it mean? I'll play psychologists next in The Doug
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(01:19):
I think in Thousand Oaks, where the Rams normally trade
changed train, it is still very much active. We get
the Big ten news of the day and then I
want to talk some Rams.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Let me just kind of give you.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Every business is different, and I think it's really interesting
that the news is that the commissioner Tony Battiti. And
if you know Tony, if you know our business, I
don't know if you guys know this. He used to
run CBS Sports and then he ran the MLB network.
So a guy who now in the commissioner side has
(01:53):
a working knowledge of all of the TV people and
what they want, but he had to be granted permission.
And this is one of the I got a chance
to know the previous commissioner of the Big Ten, Chrishioner Warren,
who just left for the Chicago Bears, and one of
his things he said that was different about working for
a conference as opposed to used to work for the Vikings.
(02:13):
Now the Bears is like when you work for the Vikings,
your boss is the owner. When you work for the bears.
Your boss is the owner. When you work for a conference,
you got fourteen bosses, you know, and some bosses matter some,
some presidents matter more. All the presidents are new, but
him being new, it's like he actually has to ask
(02:34):
can I have permissions?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Can think about that now?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Like your commissioner of the Big ten, like, hey, can
I go talk to Can I am I allowed to
talk to them about?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's a weird existence.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
But the exploring adding Oregon in Washington, it's really simple, right,
It's really simple. They're just trying to lay and wait
and see if the PAC twelve collapses. Is it smart
to have four schools on the West coast so that
UCLA and USC have somebody to compete against that they
(03:05):
don't have to go and fly across, you know, across
into the plains and the northern Plains and the Midwest
in order to compete. And it is just that cost
benefit analysis to it. And you're waiting on the se
on the acc which yesterday the big news was a
bunch of Florida.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
State trustees are like, we're out.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Just tell us when somebody wants us, because we this
thing is in a poop show. And I believe the
destruction of all things we know in college sports will
be complete once the conference reshuffling goes around. Now there's
a chance to kind of save it. But here's the thing, like,
this is what not enough people ask themselves. I understand
(03:47):
that the Big ten the SEC are going to survive
because of the gigantic TV numbers money that they're getting.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I believe the Big twelve will also survive.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
They're getting a handsome amount, and then there'll be a
fourth conference.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I don't think there's just gonna be three. There's gonna
be something.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Else out there, whether you combine what the remnants of
the ACC and the remnants of the PAC twelve, or
the PAC twelve becomes this power West conference and think
at them, and you know, maybe there's two big ones
and then three smaller ones. I don't know, but college athletics,
I always thought, why do you go think of the
(04:24):
teams you went to, the teams you cheered for as
a kid. Now sometimes it's because well that team was awesome.
Like how many Miami University of Miami football fans are
there because they were awesome?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I mean, look, I grew up. I grew up literally
fifteen minutes from here in city of Orange. I was
an Oklahoma football fan. Why because I used to flip
it on and they were awesome, and they would then
they would lose in the Orange Bowl, and then you
had dudes walking around with AK forty sevens and that
thing didn't go well. But they were cool, and I
became an Oklahoma fan. Remarkably end up going to Oklahoma State.
(04:59):
But for the most part, the school I went to
see the most was UCLA. My sister went to UCLA,
she was a cheerleader. My brother went to UCLA. We
went to UCLA basketball, UCLA football fans even though we
have no My mom's in Syracuse, Salum, my dad's inn.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Ohio Statelum, we have no ties to it.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's regionality, right and your rivals are USC your rivals
are Cow, your rivals are you know. They used to
have a great when Don James was at Washington. Used
to be a really good rivalry with UCLA, super high
talented teams. Was just never great in terms of consecutive
bids towards a Rose Bowl, Ucla Arizona basketball again all
(05:35):
in the same region. Well, we've destroyed all that with
all the conference shifting all the one hundred year rivalries.
It's like, yeah, we've been playing you for one hundred
years and our conference are schools aligned, but we're gonna
go get a check. And then the other thing that's damaged.
And this has nothing to do with it, But it
really is all about greed. And I on some level
(05:55):
I don't blame athletes now because the schools have become
so incredibly greedy towards it. And some is it's just
out of survival mode. They don't get any money from
the state anymore. This is the way you create revenue.
But schools aren't loyal to conferences, so athletes aren't loyal
to the schools. And the other reason I always thought,
(06:16):
you watched a school player, you fell in love with
the players you saw him.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You remember when he signed, he kept an eye on him.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Maybe he played a red shirt as a freshman, he
worked his way up, and by his junior year he's,
you know, an All conference player by a senior or
maybe he's an All American. Right, well, those days are
they're not completely gone, but mostly gone. Because if you
don't play as a freshman, you're like I'm out, you know,
And if you don't play as a sophomore, you're definitely
out and you just kind of bounce around school school
(06:43):
or sometimes you play and another school that maybe has
deeper pockets says like they're not supposed to, but you
get word through intermediaries because the players are allowed to
have agents.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Hey, if you move, you're gonna get twice the money.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So there is absolutely no loyalty, and college sports is
one percent about loyalty. When I was on the first
ever espn U show, it was actually from Stillwater, Oklahoma,
and I only know three oh four oh five, right,
that was It was cool.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That was a launch date O three oh four.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh five, And the initial ad campaign, which was a
really good one for ESPNU was never graduate. It was
the idea that no matter where you go, no matter
what you do, your school is you cut me open
and an orange blood comes out. And there is zero
loyalty to conference, zero loyalty to coaches, and of course
(07:42):
coaches because of that loyalty of like I'm I'm gonna
bounce to the next thing as well, and the players
have acted in kind. The number one thing about college athletics,
by my estimation, is you know, like loyalty and love
of school and university above all else, which builds the
rivalries and then of course region Now all that's gone.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And I don't think we're the better because of it.
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I just don't.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
It's funny because Oregon and Washington potentially going to the
pack or the Big Ten is not what USC would
want for them. And that's it's because USC wants to
be so even of everything that you've just talked about,
of all the changing and how everything is different, that
(08:32):
is different like that, that is you know, Penn State
joins the Big Ten, and I know it's thirty years ago,
but it fit like it may have been the school
that was the farthest east at.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
The time, but it fit.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
It fit with the Ohio State, it fit with the
Michigan and the Michigan states, and honestly, even Nebraska fit
like it. It worked for Nebraska may be better off
in the Big twelve or in the Big Eight, but
it wasn't craziness to put Nebraska into the Big Ten
and to hear the Oregon and Washington thing and then
hear the schools that maybe know them the best not
(09:08):
wanting them there.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Everything's up said.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Well, that's again out agreed, because hey, we want to say,
you know, in recruiting in southern California or in all
of California, we're the only school that's in the Big
ten outside of UCLA. And you know, at USC they
feel like we recruit a different level than than UCLA does. Right,
So that the it's fascinating and the only thing that
you can count on is change, right, and we And
(09:34):
the crazy part about the sport is in many ways,
it's better than it's ever been because, yeah, because now
we're gonna have a playoff, like a real playoff.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It's better than it's ever been.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Because because of the real playoff and because of the
twelve teams, teams are gonna have to up their schedules
in order if if it gets close, you're gonna have
to have played somebody. It's better than it's ever been
because the TV coverage is just phenomenal. And you know,
you go back back in the day, and you know,
Notre Dame was NBC and every we'd have it just
a couple of games. Now there's not a game you
can't watch. But despite the fact that so much of
(10:08):
it's better, it's a lot worse because I mean I
just you're an Ohio State fan. How many of their
starters can you name today?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It'd be you know, it'd be difficult, but it'd be.
You know, get in.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Twelve you can gain twelve starters.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I mean, it wouldn't be. It wouldn't be. The twenty
two is my my point?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So I like as I I know, I could probably
do three at Oka mistake sure three right, three? And
that's my school. I couldn't do like any other school.
There's a couple of everybody knows Kaylea Williams. Can anyone
name anybody else who plays at USC?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
This is USC?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, because everything changes, Like I don't even think guys
at Colorado know who the guy is sitting next to
them at the Lion in the locker room?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Hey man, what's your name?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Steve? Where are you from? Then? Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
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Speaker 3 (11:15):
So this is year six of coming here. I think
it's year six.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You're six of coming to UC Irvine to watch the
Rams practice, and every year is different and distinct until itself,
right like when they drafted Jared Goff, it was, oh,
you know, like what now, a sudden change is here,
and then he was supposed to redshirt his first year.
Then he ended up playing, and then by year two
you're like, okay, Goff, girly, this is a good club.
(11:45):
And they end up going to a super Bowl that year,
the Super Bowl. The first Super Bowl year, you walked
in and you knew they were.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Going to be good.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You knew they were going to be good.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Then they lost most of their offensive line after that
year and it was a down year. Right then they
recovered and when they got Stafford, you felt like that
year it's going to be special. Last year you had
the sense of man, they went all in and it
was a short off season and everybody got a new deal,
(12:17):
like Cooper Cup got a new deal. What's the name
of the defensive learned Aaron Donald got a new deal.
Lesnie got a new deal. Remember there was talk of
Sean McVay leaving. He got a new do.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Everybody got paid. But that doesn't always.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It felt like there was a there was a cliff
they were walking off of, and then injuries and there,
and of course they're losing Stafford and it became a cliff.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
This year.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
You walk in, You're like, I have no idea. I
have no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
There's some pieces you like, but the the.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Their whole thing was draft picks don't matter.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
F them picks, and now everything is you know, we
could be really good if these draft picks of the
past two years are good. It's just a completely different
way of looking at your team and building expectations, and
there's just so much unknown, so much unknown.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
All right?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
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was I was a little surprised, right. Darnelle Mooney is
(14:22):
a wide receiver with the Chicago Bears. He said this
about his quarterback, Justin Fields.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
I would say within the playbook, there's no confusion there
at all. He's just I know where I want to
go with the ball. I know where this play is
designed for. I know the covers that I want to
get this done in. And even like during walkthroughs, he's
will do like like two minute drill and he's calling
the plays itself. So it's something like he wasn't able
to like do last year for sure, just because he's
(14:51):
learning this year, he's doing that. He's taking control of everything.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So it's it's honest, but maybe a little bit honest
to a fault, right, Like he just now knows the
two minute drill. That's kind of alarming, right, especially considering
and I'm just using my rams knowledge. Do you guys
remember when Baker Mayfield beat the Raiders last year and
he was there for like two days, and what was
he able to do? Learn the two minute drill in
(15:17):
a in like a half hour? You know, So this
is not me saying it right, This is remember, this
is not me going, hey man, I took out a
whole year when learned two minute drill. This is his
wide receiver going well, now he knows two minute trill
to Baker Mayfield like fifteen minutes ago, Like oh yeah,
this is this and this is and it's again, and
(15:39):
let's be honest. For Baker, he had played a lot
more college football than Justin Fields. And one of the
things that I was always told when he was drafted
was he's a whiz at the whiteboard. But that's a
little alarming, a little alarming. Let's let's get an update
from Dan.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
If it was big deal, a little deal, no deal,
This would be a little deal. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yes, yeah, I mean second year of the Mattiberflus era,
third year for Fields in the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Give him some leeway. Baker had a lot of turnover
in his time.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
But Freddy Kitchens did get the job because of his
relationship with Baker, So there is the tied end. So
I'll give Justin Field some slack. Hey better no, no, no,
what now than never?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
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Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Do you guys know anybody who watched the USFL or
the the XFL.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I did not take an interest.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I know we didn't. Do you know anybody who was like,
hey man, you see that game?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
No? A few. Our buddy R. J.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Young, who covers college football doesn't for Fox, but that's
about it.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
He's not one for me.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know anybody who who watches it. So football
has been like on your television set a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
But you're like, what is that? Who are these teams? Now?
You get two teams to teams names, you know?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So uh, I'm quietly kind of I just I mean, like, look,
you're watching for like the first series, it's the Jets,
so you'll have an interview with with with Aaron Rodgers,
it's the Browns. Do we still here's a question, do
we still talk about the Deshaun Watson story or is
that no longer a story?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
I think we've moved on from it, but there's this
dark cloud that hangs over the organization.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
It's it's the complete it's the situation, it's the contract,
it's all of it. The Browns don't have that underdog
feel anymore, and I don't I think that the story
is over with. I think now the conversation, honestly will
come if the Browns don't have success and what that
(18:19):
means about the money that they gave Watson and where
they are as an organization because all of it was guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Okay, that's a I mean, the dark cloud is the
perfect example, right. They just can't they don't feel like
they can just go out and play and see how
good they are, you know, And that's amazing that here
they have. They were a feel good story. Was like
(18:46):
four years ago they were a feel good story.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, when they were losing all those games, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
In one game in two combined years. Yes, Then they
quasi turned around with Baker his first year, second year,
made the playoff and then it is has gone to
pot since. So it's a it's a fascinating deal and
I just I can't tell like it's a weird team
to where you're like, okay, it's not really still a story,
(19:13):
but it's still kind of his lingering story.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah. They it's it's always going to be there.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
It's like that maybe the chance of rain in Florida
or Seattle, it's always going to be there.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Let's welcome in less need. He's the general manager of
the La Rams. Two years ago won a Super Bowl,
and we were sitting here last year and we thought
you would get a new contract.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Then you got it.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Like literally, I'm driving home and my phone blows up
and as like, oh, let's need agree. You know, it
was announced your new contract, but what's fast?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Was done?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
While was doing you? Ready?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
No, it was, and it was done probably a long
time ago, and you just waited to announce it.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I forget that timeline.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So, okay, this is every year we've come here.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's been different, right, Like I remember when you got
golf and all of a sudden it felt like, okay,
they got it, they got their next quarterback. And then
by year two he felt like he belonged. And by
year three now the sudden contender felt like for a while.
And then obviously when you brought in Matt there were expectations.
You guys lived up those expectations, won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Everybody kind of got new contracts, but there was so
much change, especially in the lines, and then you had
the injuries. You couldn't play up to the level that
you wanted. This year feels like an unknown to most people.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
What are your expectations?
Speaker 6 (20:26):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
The great point expectations is to take it step by
step a little bit like when we started this thing,
and even in all of those years, and I'll go
back to what year was at the twenty one season
that we won the Super Bowl. When you're at training
camp and when you start, you can't say, hey, let's
go win a super Bowl. You still have to get
(20:48):
through training camp, get through preseason, get through the season.
In that year, we had to weather a three game
losing streak with a buye so over thirty days without
a lot in that process, losing Robert Woods but on
board and Odell Beckham Junior. So there's a lot of
change to point being it Like we always say, let's
(21:09):
keep the main thing the main thing. Let's try to
do something good for Rams football today. That usually leads
to playing quality football on Sundays, which usually leads to wins,
which you lose usually leads to chances, you know, to
compete for championships and tournaments. But it's still one step
(21:30):
at a time.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Lesnie joining us general manager of the La Rams, Doug
Gottlieb show here live at the RAMS training practice. We
got walked through about to getting away. Then of course
they can have a practice a little bit later on.
We appreciate you taking so much time.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Do you need go no cliche? Huh, just to say
you just probably were thinking he just gave you the
most cliche answer. But I can tell you a little
bit cliche if you knew the intensity that Sean has
during a lot through and the standards for what you
would realize. Okay, one step at a time like that
walk through, Oh if these guys aren't dialed in and
(22:06):
there's mental errors, oh that the next two hours for
seaness So just I knew you were thinking, oh, what
a cliche answer.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
No it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
There was there was some cliche, but part of cliche
answers are accurate because you know they've been repeated time
and again for a for a reason. Matt Stafford and
obviously injury, tough injuries season last year, talk of him retiring,
talk of him being traded. Now he's back and he's healthy.
How would you characterize matt Stafford with your franchise.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
You know what's really neat is the part on the
health part, because you could see in OTA's. Wow, That's
why Matthew Stafford probably was a five star if they
had stars back then, while it was one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I after his na they had stars back then.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
By the way, when he signed at Georgia, I was
working in the ESPN radio Melchiper Junior. He's like that
guy's men number one overall pick like he had that
Lord Tortu. But he they were, they were stars, But yes,
go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
So watching him in OTA's and then this year I
was able to I was down at the Manning Academy
and was able to see some of the better college
Q beats throw the ball around. And however, many years
into the league, Matthew Stafford is compared to that, You're like, okay,
wait a minute, that's a that's a six star. They
may be five stars, but his arm't. So to see
(23:20):
him healthy the neat, I would say, the rose of
last year's thorn was in Matthew's case, probably in Cooper's
case and Aaron Donald's cases. When those guys so many
years in their league actually have to sit out more
than half the season, there is an element where, wow,
you you take time to reflect the I actually miss
playing this game. So there is some roses to last
(23:42):
year's thorns. But the health is the number one.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Well, I know, and we always already had Cooper granted,
just a hamstring, okay, but you know you missed, you
missed all the time last year. And of course he's
had you know, previous injury going back a couple of
years ago. What's that like, as you said, to watch
him and he, thankfully just the hamstring the other day.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Thankfully just a hamstring and a minor hamstring. Because if
you've ever if you've ever probably had a let's call
it a kid in high school and you, oh, it's
a hamstring, and most people think it's a year, a
week away and you're back. That's usually not the case.
With hamcreens, springs. It's usually is a four to six
week process, this depending on the string, this one being minor.
The neat thing with Cooper is seasons not till thirty
(24:24):
nine plus days away. There's plenty of time to get
that hamstring ready. He's a veteran, he'll be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
What about Sean? You know there there was taka Sean
going and doing something else. Signs a big contract last year.
Obviously now he's married, kind of is it has? What's
he like from your perspective in terms of how he
goes about his daily business?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I think that was one he would tell you this.
He's articulated in many ways that the let's call it
the the rows of last year's storm for him, distress
and drudgery had had caught up to him. It's I
mentioned the people all the time before. However long he's
been our head coach, probably the moment he got the
play calling job in Washington, probably two years before we
hired him. He had been running an eight hundred meter
(25:06):
competitive eight hundred meter every day. Wasn't going to be
able to sustain that, But like anyone, there was this
element that he had to age into it realize, okay,
wait a minute, I got to do some things differently
to be able to sustain this pace. And the pace
is not being okay, we're going to run an eight
hundred meter every single day. It's gonna be we're gonna
(25:28):
run some eight hundred meters, but we're going to be really, really,
really fresh when we do it, and there's a way
to do that, and I think that's what he was
able to intentionally set his mind to this offseason.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
What's it like for you, Lesnie joining us here in
the Doug Gottlieb Show live at La RAMS training camp.
For you, you know, two years ago it was we
don't need the picks, We're going for it now. So now,
as you said, it's kind of going back to the
past where you need these young players, first and second
year players to develop.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Me.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
He had a litany of fifth and six round picks
this year and they're you know, fighting for right their
survival right now. What's that like for you to evaluate
and put your ultimate fifty three roster together?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
The neat thing is, even in the past we have
had to rely on players in their rookie contracts and
key roles, we might have had a few more veteran
core players to mix in with them. So this year
being different is instead of Jalen with let's call it
players on their rookie contracts. It may be all players
(26:33):
on their rookie contracts in the in the defensive back end,
so that's we've been through that before. We're used to
relying on players on rookie contracts important roles. This year
we're gonna have to rely on more of them. And
interestingly through it all and I get all the reasons
why that's the narrative, but probably in the last six
years we're probably I know we're either number two, three, four,
(26:55):
but I think we may have climbed the two after
this year with fourteen picks that over that time span,
we've basically had the second to third most draft picks
in the draft, so we've definitely valued draft picks. We
have used some of our early draft picks differently than
let's just saying drafting.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Sure, And I would also it also changes though your
preseason plan for the games, right because Sean has always
play with my starters, but there's so many young guys
fighting for spots.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Doesn't that change who you're playing?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
When you play, it will not be like years past,
but it will be like years past. And I know
he had some names, you know, because we do have
players like Rob haven't seen Tyler Higbee, some players that
have been here since our first Super Bowl into the
second Super Bowl. So the player the team does have
some core veterans that will get the let's call it
(27:46):
non preseason play treatment, but there is an element of
trying to engineer as as competent a collective as possible.
And because we mentioned we're gonna let's talk the defensive
side of the ball, there's a lot of players on
their rookie contrac on that side of the ball other
than Aaron Donald, and so we're gonna need those guys
to jail during the preseason.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Of the things you've seen in your time in the NFL.
And I know he's not part of this team now,
he's fighting for his spot in Tampa. Baker coming in
with almost no prep, running a two minute and winning
you a game that I mean, there's one a lot
of highlights last year because all the injuries, right, that
strikes me as as remarkable a win as you can think.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
We mentioned roses to last year Thorns. I think I
had mentioned this to Baker that somewhere along the way
twenty years later, when we're all sitting around talking about
football and there's gonna be some really neat moments on
the timeline. But in the midst of that very bad
season for us, that's gonna be a moment we're gonna
talk about. You're gonna that story is gonna get told.
(28:46):
That is that is I mean, what did he get
here on Thursday? Yes, yeah, that's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yes, they played on Sunday and Sunday.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Night Vegas had to lose a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yes, yes, I'm not sure why they're impressed man coverage
that play either, but hey, you'll you'll take it. I mean,
but to run a two minute when you I mean,
we just played a cut with Justin Fields. He just
now a year in learning the two minute Baggers, they're
like fifteen minutes, like I got it, learn about it.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
It almost interesting looking back in at it telling about
two minutes. I've heard quarterbacks, the young quarterbacks say that
when you do get in the two minutes, sometimes there's
an element you're going fast. It's not you don't have
a lot of time to think. Yeah, so there's just
an element not necessarily easier, but they're just reacting. They're
playing QB like they used to, where sometimes as you
start a game and you get normal down in distances
(29:36):
and you're listening to coaches and you're trying to strategize
and you're overthinking it when you get in two minutes like, okay, wait,
this is backyard, this is high school. I've done this before.
Give him credit. He has that, he's got kind of
that that's in his DNA. He's Baker Mayfield's made for
that moment.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yes, and it was, it was, It was something to watch.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Last thing, we mentioned all the young players, and you're
saying we think we're probably second most young guys. There's
no hard knocks out here, right, So the beauty to
hard knocks is you find like a young guy and
you follow him.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
You have so many is give me a young.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Guy who has really impressed you, maybe more so than
even when you dress.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Would be a tough It'd be like the Bachelor, whatever
Bachelor show there would be. We'd give fifty roses.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
You could give who would get your first impression?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Rows, Oh, watch this rookie long snapper, rookie punter, rookie kicker.
And we only have those three on the roster, those
three and they got a lot of responsibility. Yeah, are
they gonna win the job? Are they gonna actually be
useful to us.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I thought you only have those three in the roster.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah, only though, so, but technically there's a cuts and
things like that. But I give those three. The reason
I say them is to non answer kind of keep
some guys.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Rookie long snapper is a lot like the baggage handling people.
You can only talk about him when something goes wrong.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
And the punter is like about six foot five if
you if you YouTube, he's dead lifting and cleaning and
he's never held before because he was punter and kicker
at win Gate College. Have you ever heard of win Gate?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I actually have heard of wind Gate, which state North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
There you go. So, point being, we had to teach
him the hold. There, come on, now, I love that
good pull, great pull anyway basketball it's at the basketball bit, yes,
But point being, you had to teach him the hold. Yeah,
and now you've got a whole rookie operation. So I
give those guys, and they're actually doing a really, really,
really nice job.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
All right, Uh, unless I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Obviously, it's tough sledding out here in Irvine with the
with the breeze coming off the ocean, the eucalypsus trees,
but continued health to your team, keep Cooper and bubble
Wrap and we can't wait.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
To see you a week one of the season.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Thanks for having me all.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Right, that's a less need.
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Speaker 9 (33:18):
This is Game Time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
All right, Dan by, what's the game today?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Doug? The game today is.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
I feel a draft that is actually the breeze coming
from the ocean that you hear. Two round drafts, eight
picks in all, John Ramos, Jason Stewart, myself and Doug
Gottlieb today drafting our all time favorite Rams, our all
time favorite Rams. John Ramos, you have the first overall pick, Doug,
you will pick second. Jason is third, and then I
(33:54):
go fourth, and then we snake it back in reverse order.
John Ramos, your face favorite all time Ram is.
Speaker 10 (34:02):
Well, my favorite all time Ram played in super Bowl
fourteen on a broken Legwell, no, he did play in
super Bowl four That would be Jack young.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Jack young Blood.
Speaker 10 (34:13):
Yeah, number eighty five.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Here the jersey I had the jersey.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
That's right, Yep, that's Joel's.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Brother, right, Joel young Blud's brother.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
No, but he did have a brother, right. There was
another young Blood on the team. But I don't think
they were brothers.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Oh okay, there were two young Bloods on the same team,
but they weren't related. Yes, wow, I got it because
Jack was actually on the jersey.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
It wasn't like Jay young Blood.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
It said Jack above young Blood in like eight font
and then young Blood was.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
In like fourteen size font. All right, Jack young Blood's
off the board.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I know who he's gonna go with, Marshall fulk whoa
that is not who I thought he was going to
go with.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Marshall is my I mean, I think he's, if not
the greatest running back of all time. He's in any
any conversation, passy, catch it running. He was awesome, awesome
in college. Awesome is a pro. I'm Marshall, Folk's my guy.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
All Right, Jays Show Enter Jason Stewart, you pick third,
drafting our all time favorite Rams.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
I can't believe this guy fell into my lab because
when I think all time RAM, I think Los Angeles Rams,
Douglent was Saint Louis, which is fine, but I grew
up ten minutes dougle dispute this ten minutes from Anaheim Stadium,
and I watched this guy's entire RAMS career in the eighties. Uh,
and I got the pleasure of working with him in
(35:39):
recent years. Eric Dickerson, my all time favorite RAM at
third is a steal.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Wow, it's a really good pick. A lot of good
names coming up here. I'm gonna ride Shotgun with Doug
in Saint Louis and I'm going Orlando Pace all time
great former buck Ey, Yes, hall of that's an upset.
Orlando Pace goes number four and number five. This is
(36:05):
actually going to be a real upset, and I know
he was out here recently. Todd Light cool. And the
reason being is Todd Light used to work at Fox
Sports Radio. He and I together went to the one
versus two Ohio State Michigan game in two thousand and
six at Ohio Stadium in the seats that were owned
(36:29):
by Orlando Pace. There it all ties in together. Todd
Light goes number five.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Todd Light goes number five.
Speaker 11 (36:37):
All right, Jase Doo, you're saying that, you're saying that
I get to the fifth pick or sixth pick, and
there's not been one quarterback ticket.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
We have not taken a quarterback in the all time RAMS.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I thought Doug was going to take a quarterback at two,
but I was surprised.
Speaker 11 (36:53):
I'm going to stick to the kind of the same
era a little bit before. But I grew up ten
minutes from Mannheim Stadiums and I watched the Sky go
to the Super Bowl in nineteen eighty, the same super
Bowl that Jack Gungbud played in. Vince Farragamo is my
all time favorite RAM quarterback.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Vince Farragama.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Now, what was the story.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Did he have an affair with Georgia frontier or did
she just didn't be infatuated with him?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
What was the what was the story?
Speaker 6 (37:18):
I didn't know about the affair part.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Again, maybe i'm you know, there's John John.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
I can't comment on.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
That discretion as John's greatest valor.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You talk about the difference in that and like the
stories nowadays? Right, female owner? Anyway, I gotta go Kurt Warner.
Is there a better story in the history of American
sport than Kurt Warner?
Speaker 9 (37:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Okay, I should do a movie about it, A bad
one with Shazam.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
All right, John? Your last pick, well, Chris Chandler. No,
I'm joking.
Speaker 10 (37:56):
It's gonna be Jackie Slater.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yep.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
Jackie's later another offensive lineman who's one of the Rams,
best besides Orlando Pace in the history.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
No current Rams, not one. That's game time.
Speaker 9 (38:10):
Oh no, you're right, this is game time on the
Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I mean, if I had another pick, I would take
Cooper Cup. I think he's incredible.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Weird interaction between Trayvon Diggs and Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
What's it mean? I'll play psychologists next in The Doug
Gottlieb Show.
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