May 19, 2022 • 38 mins
Doug talks about the PGA Championship this week in Tulsa. Doug gives his main takeaways from the Heat's game one win over the Celtics in the Eastern Conference Finals matchup. Doug and the crew talk about sports city destinations in this week's edition of "The Midway". Longtime golf writer and the author of the new book "Tiger & Phil" Bob Harig joins Doug from the site of the PGA Championship this week to talk about Tiger, Phil Mickelson and the season's second major. Plus, Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take on the US Women's National Team gaining equal pay as the Men's national team.
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t Town as they call it in the Sooner State,
gets you ready for the p G eight Championship which
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begins tomorrow, and Tiger Woods gets gets the tea off tomorrow.
We talk about that one man, Dan Buyer in a second.
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I don't want to say conspiracy theory, but like of um,
what's the word I'm looking for? Shoot of uh? Would
you say politics or buy or how would you describe
the thought that Tiger gets beneficial but beneficial treatment, he
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gets the preferential treatment. That's a preferential treatment because well
he's he's Eldrick Tiger Woods. And the early start time
it's it's better to start early Thursday, obviously when when
you have a banged up body, it started easy to
start early Thursday one because the course is only going
to speed up now late Friday obviously, barring a thunderstorm
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Thursday night or Friday, it's gonna be on fire fast,
which is hard because het u out of the length.
But it does allow him to do his rest his
body longer, whereas if you got the late start Friday
Thursday and the early start Thursday, that's a hard turnaround
for any older golf or little one who's been through
the number of surgeries. Right, That is correct, Yes, it did.
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Do people not like it in the world of golf,
Like is there like a pushback against it? There's some
guys and you'd probably have to ask them if they
go out late on Thursday and maybe they have momentum,
maybe they want to get right back out there Friday.
The softening of the course kind of even itself out
because if conditions are the same, which they never ever are,
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but if they happen to be the same, you don't
get a rain shower at a certain point. You know
you're gonna have maybe a certain course on you know, Thursday,
and then maybe one on Friday if they decide to
put water. But to your point, yeah, if you can
get out Thursday morning, maybe uh and have a little
do on the on the ground, it helps. It's the
rest is the biggest thing that you mentioned, and for Tiger,
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because how long it takes him to prep and get
ready for around to go and play and then end
at I don't know, six o'clock, seven o'clock local time
in Tulsa, and then I have to turn around and
tee it up at you know, eight or nine in
the morning when he's getting up at four in the morning. Anyway,
to get his body ready. Yeah, that would be a
tough task. That's a tough, tough, tough task. I'm excited
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to see this course because it was redone in eighteen.
It was already a spectacular course. But what you're you're
hearing from people is my experience. All the stuff that
they've ready done is fine. But but like, look, it's
it's really a US Open course. That's the real thing
about this. It's a US Open course in that um,
the greens are crazy fast. But but the it's the
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rough is so thick and it's not it's not it's not.
We'll go ahead, Yeah, that's all right, Dave. Under the renovation,
the rough is kind of gone away. It's just the
with what guilt. It's like master style a little bit. Yeah,
Like there's you're not gonna get in in the US
Open has had their own, you know, changes to make,
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but you're not gonna see like hey, on the side,
what you're gonna see is a lot of fast, uh,
you know, gathering areas around the greens. What's really interesting
about this is is they tried to extend the length
of certain holes. One of the storylines and leading up
to this is the cross traffic that you're getting. For example,
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if you're teeing off on the seventh hole, which is
right behind the sixth green, your tea shot technically could
be going over the back side of the sixth hole
because there's only so much room. You know the area
much better than I do, Dug. I don't think they
can buy a parking lot across the street like Augusta
National does and then just expand their course. They had
to find ways to find length within and so now
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it's very tight between tea boxes and greens. There's one
point between the third and six holes where I kid
you not, um, you're teeing off on a hole. Um,
I believe it's on the sixth hole, while the part
three third is where uh, you would be hitting over.
So you're gonna have to wait and see on who
was we're hitting because something is gonna be teeing off
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maybe a hundred yards from you as you're playing at
two hundred yard hole. It's very yeah, under the renovations surrounded. Yeah,
there's just there's there's no room. It's um, you know,
Tulsa being a and and Tulsa is a city that
Tulsa it feel is like it feels more like St.
Louis and a Midwestern city or as Oklahoma city feels
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more like Dallas in a southwestern city. And it too.
It's hard to explain that to somebody who hasn't lived
or spent a lot of time in both. But but
Tulsa and and Southern Hills is it's a traditional like
country club in the southern part of the city. And
to answer your question, like, no, you can't expand because
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people's homes around around the course. Right, there's there's a
couple of streets Louis Lewis Avenue and sixty one, and
then there there are other parts which you know, there's
there's sixty goes below it, but there's just no room
because you have to got people's homes and there. It's
not like um Augusta Nashal, where some of those homes
are tying little homes that you know they blow to
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the price six there's one guy right who has and
sold like these are really nice homes on a really
nice course. Like there's nowhere to go to go. You
gotta you gotta do the best with whatever you got.
In terms of that, Augusta literally like rerouted an entire
street like where you used to you know some people
maybe you would park is actually where now the fifth
he is. It's crazy because it's right across the Street.
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Now they've you know, purchased so much of the land
around it. But I mean there's only you know, that's
only something that Augusta National can do. But yeah, that's
the the pace of play is actually going to be
a question because you're just wondering do you hit and
it's the par three sixth hole that's gonna be hitting
over the te box on the par four third but
you have to wait for them to hit before you
can hit. And now you're alterna, you know, alternating, and
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if play is coming up behind you, that can make
things slow on Thursday and Friday. That that's not fun.
Oh and and the good thing is that's like it's
not like it's hot, right right, better it would be right,
you said, like if it's July and August when the
p GA used to be there, or June, like when
they have the US Open there in two thousand one,
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different story. But yeah, it's still supposed to be like
ninety degrees, yeah, ninety tomorrow eight on Friday, humidity, so hot, humid,
and then it's supposed to get some rain Saturday and
uh and cool Sunday, so it's gonna be a beautiful weekend.
We'll see how much they get in on Saturday. But yeah,
that's a lot on your body, I do think. And
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this is I had this discussion with somebody we're talking
about the heat. I was talking to some buddies, uh,
some some dads in my basketballractice that we're talking about
the course, and I said, you know, playing early in
the morning is not bad because especially when you're older, like,
it's way easier to loosen up when it's warm and humid,
as long as you're not out there when it's hot
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at four in the afternoon, right peak heat humidity, that's
the time. Now he has that on Friday, but it's
supposed to be a little cooler on Friday, so the
weather gods may may help him out. And we'll see
how it affects everything else. So I we'll get more
to that. I was actually gonna ask you the question
because I've never been on the grounds. But if you
even watch, if somebody watches golf channel, you'll see there
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is some there are some hills, there are some elevated greens,
and and I think that was one of the things
with Tiger of while it's not Augusta National, that was
a question when he was at Augusta National. How could
he handle walking for four days? You've been there? Do
you think is there is there? It's it's not it's
not like Augusta National, but there is. You know there's
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there's sections of it which it does, you know, go
up and down and uh it's I mean, like, look,
it's as traditional and American country club golf course as
you're ever gonna find, right, Like, I think one is
elevated right, you can kind of oversee the whole course,
and it's that that that kind of classic on a Saturday.
You go out there with a breakfast ball and you
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hit one and it feels like you hit it a
mile because you're elevated, right, and then he plays the ball.
So yeah, there's some up and down. I don't think
it's the same as like, and I've never been to Augusta.
I've only heard like august is way way more hilly
then TV will ever do it justice, like it's a
hard long walk. I don't remember that. And I've only
played Southern Hills twice, So I'm not gonna sit here
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and tell you I'm an expert at it, and I
have not played it or seen it since it's been redone.
I'm curious if if Tiger. Obviously last month it was
in question whether he was going to play. He said
he was going to play in St. Andrews. But the
PG in U s open, we're up in the air.
But yeah, it tells us a little bit how he's feeling.
And he said as much that the you know, feel
stronger this week. Yeah, five weeks of five weeks of
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training for it. He knows what to expect. I think
you'll play well. I think you'll make the cut. I
just you know, it's really hard to to guess that
he'll be super competitive at the top. I mean this
is I mean we're still are we a year out
where like a year out from from his surgeries, right,
I mean like it doesn't feel like I mean, it's
crazy that he's playing golf at majors just in Sans
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and it was late February. He had multiple surgeries on
that like amazing, that's dampire will get to him in
the second. Bob Herrick's gonna join us later on in
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want to get into the Eastern Conference Finals Game one.
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Jimmy Butler scored forty. Here's Butler on his on his
on his play. I speak for my teammates and the
Miami he organization, And whenever I say I know what
I'm capable of, UM and I don't. I don't do
this to score forty points. I play the way that
I played and win. UM by all I means necessary
And it just so happened that I scored forty. But uh,
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if I score forty and lose, I'm gonna be really
piste off. UM. I mean that team came out as
a completely different team out of locker room, but they were.
It wasn't non competitive, but it's the first half of
like man, the Celtics are just better. They just have
more scoring options. They have more they spent and uh,
and the Heat came out and it was a completely
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different band out of bio the leadership of Butler, and
I thought the point that he made and I don't
know people understood it. It was like Jimmy Butler is
not a big time scorer, but it does feel like
he has what he wanted to call the competitive greatness
or just the ability at the right time to crank
up that Listen, you know what, you need me to score.
I'll carry this team if everybody else isn't ready. This
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is Jimmy Butler saying what happened at halftime. It's crazy
because he didn't have to say too much. We already
knew what we were doing wrong, turning the ball over,
not getting back, and so we talked about it and
we came out and I was like, you know what,
we're at home. We gotta play better basketball. We gotta
play better as a team. And it should be pointed
out that the Celtics, you know, didn't have Marcus Smart
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and obviously, um, you know, he's the defensive play or
the year in the league. Where you think he's the
best defender in the league or not doesn't really matter.
And then you combine that with the fact that you
know you don't have you're starting big guy who's kind
of been uh not only a revelation, but when you
don't have Al Horford, it limits your ability to play
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to open up the lane right. Robert Williams was great
in the first half dunking, blocking shots. But when he's
in the game, it allows bam a Tobio to be
a rim protector when he's If Al Horford is in
the game, because he's become a viable weapon from three
now a sudden, it becomes a lot harder for bam
Adebio to protect the rim. That's obviously your Hopefully he
comes back in game two. Whenever you have him three
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and beyond, uh, it'll be a different series. But that
was like two different games. That was That was nuts.
That was nuts. Um. Coming up next, we got The
Midway and if you haven't heard The Midway, I think
you'll enjoy it, including this question what city do you
most want to go to and what sport and game
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the middle of the show, the middle of the way.
It's time for in the middle of the way, the midway. Okay,
so here's what we do. Okay, we don't we We
love sports, who love talking about sports, but we're also
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four dudes and sitting around and talk about stuff that
we want you to kind of relate to. So uh,
I chased too. I think you came up with this
one right. Yeah, you know what? I saw Charles Barkley
say something on T and T about San Francisco. Do
we have that? Sound John? I think the apps are
gonna be better at small ball because of Luca No
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bucking hell of that dude. One on one Hell, I
mean San Francisco. We will hate Seco City. I hate see.
I just don't like it. I gotta like a thing
because you all like it. No, I'm just asking why
I've never had stunt on Train's not backwards I'm gonna
going to the trail ship after going are we going
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to visit going family union? All right? So it kind
of made me think, by the way, I love San Francisco,
I hate what's been done to it. But anyways, I
thought to myself, like, what would be a place that
I want to go to, not only to go to
as a city I really haven't been to, but to
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see an actual sporting event. They're a game, a team,
and I just assumed that we could all kind of
relate to this one. Now, Doug, you're well traveled, You've
been everywhere, overseas, everywhere, but you know, Ramos and I
were common folk. We haven't been around the world like you.
I want to go to Chicago. I've been, I've passed
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through there through the airport and stuff. But I want
to go to Chicago and I want to see a
day game at Wrigley against the Cardinals. That's that's number
one on my drink beer out in the right. You
gotta do the entire experience. You have to. You got
to soak it up with the locals. I need to.
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If want to cash in on this one, I need
to do it soon because it's not going to be
there for much longer. I want to go to a
game in Buffalo and to see the Bills play, And
to me, it's not even about Monday night. It actually
maybe better if it was a one Eastern time kickoff
to see how Bill's Mafia gets down at eight am
on a Sunday morning. But with their new stadium in
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and because it's unlike so like any other NFL stadium,
I want to go to Buffalo and see a Buffalo
Bills game, and the temperature needs to be all around freezing.
It doesn't. I've done enough of those in my life.
I'm fine with a September twenty game, that is, I
am good with that promos. Well, as you know, I'm
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a big, gigantic, humongous baseball fan, and so I enjoyed
the stadiums, so I would think Fenway Park for me
would be someplace I would love to go watch a
baseball game against the Yankees, a Yankee heated rivalry game
between the Yankees and the Boston Red Sox. And from
what I understand, the Fenway brook is very small, so
it's very tight fine when you sit in the stand,
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so that would be kind of interesting to be on
top of somebody, that's my number two. Have you been
dug to a Red Sox game? But but I do. Um, My,
My Hayes is going to he goes to summer camp
in Maine and he's got to be the twenty second
I believe. So I just check last night because I'm
gonna fly him out there and the twenty one they
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play the Tigers. So I want to take him to that.
I want to will take him to a game. So
I haven't taken him. He hasn't been to a game,
but I've been to a game at Fenway. I've been
to Wrigley. That's great. So um, I love this whole
idea of the whole day experience. Okay, but I'm having
trouble with aering it down to one. But I would
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say the first thing that I want to do, I've
talked about doing and I'm meant to do it and
I haven't done it. I want to go to a
Green Bay Packer football game. I want to go to
Green Bay Packer football game. And I don't want I
don't I don't necessarily need it to be freezing cold.
I actually I mean falls. No, I'd love like a
a fall Crisp Fall Day, Crisp Fall Day, you know,
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and then like the but again the whole thing tailgate
with some dudes outside, maybe Aaron Nagler from uh Cheese
Cheese Head TV. Right, drink some beer, eat some brods,
go in, uh gold Peck, go right, watch the game.
I mean that That's that's one. Now, Look, that's not
the only one I would do. That's probably the only.
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I got a buddy. Pittsburgh Steelers would be probably second,
but Packers of the NFL one. College football, I've done Alabama.
I've been to Tennessee. UM, I'd like to do the
Grove at Old Miss. I'd like to do l s U.
Uh Texas sounds pretty awesome against Alabama this year, but
I think I think LSU would probably be the next one.
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The one in college football, I'd like to do. UM
college basketball, did Duke this here. I've been to Carolina.
I think I've kind of been everywhere. College Basco eyes,
baseball eyes, try to think baseball. What's the next? Oh,
I I'd always I've never been in Camden yards. I've
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been in Camden. I've heard great things. Plus, I love
bald I like Baltimore, not just from the wire. But
the food in Bald in Bald, Baltimore, Right, I dig
as well? I don't know. Um, oh I know, I
got one. I want to go to Bristol Motor Speedway
lit Hiver Racing. Yeah, there you go, A little short track,
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a little little titled Dalladega Superspeedway Indoor on my list
that I would I would like to go to as well.
An very cool. Any places outside of America that we
would like to go to. I mean, you want to
go to one of those one of the big soccer stadiums, right,
I want to go to what's it? What's uh? Is
it called the camp? What? What's My brother has been there?
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Um it's in Spain? Was that is that real Madrid's place?
You guys know what what I'm talking about? I wish I did.
I wish I was a little bit more versed. I mean,
I'd like to go to a Premiership game. Um you know,
like I don't know. Yeah, that's what I thought you
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would do. St Andrew's, Uh, buyer is that he's something
that's on your list? Um, here's the thing I would
want to play St Andrew's more so than just going
there and seeing an event, and sometimes when you see
the events with golf, it really makes you want to
play the course even more. In St Andrew's you can
play it's public. But that would be that would be
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my only drawback. I'd actually rather see Wimbledon than see
an Open Championship at St Andrews. But I'd rather play
St Andrews above all of it. Yeah, something about center court,
something about the grass, I mean, like the first day
of Wimbledon, just to see the not you know, like
how it's just so perfect and it looks so intimate,
you know, because it's so close, and then you have
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the Royal Box like that is that sounds like a day? Right?
You could do St Andrews in the morning and then
go to wimbled in the afternoon. I don't think. I
don't think the ones in Scotland. Ones in England so
am I want to buy a map? No, they have
like bullet trains and stuff. And then you could go
over to Wembley Stadium. And so Wembley Stadium is like
Wembley Stadium. Okay, Uh, there's there's uh, what's the one,
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There's the one in the well, there's the baron Byron
Munich Stadium in Germany, which is like, yeah, maons, yeah,
that's what it is. Right, there's old Tratford, there's old
Trafford Camp, Camp, New whatever, that's where. That's where Barcelona plays.
That's the one I was talking about in Spain. I
do think you need to know the name of it
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if you want to go to it. That's that. That
would be the thing. Although high Mark Stadium just does
not ring well with Buffalo doing. I don't like doing
the stadiums when they're empty. Oh just a tour, yeah, yeah,
no thanks, no thanks. I've been fortunate enough to see
a lot of the ballparks you guys mentioned, so it's good.
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We can we can do it. I'll give you an
underrated city I'd like to go to in a second,
and you'll you'll really appreciate this one in a second.
Nobody said Miller Park. Have been there many a time.
That's what I want to do. Milwaukee on a No, seriously,
Milwaukee in the summer fest stuck out the show. Fox
sport trader Bob Harrick joins, This Golf Writer is a
new book out, Okay, I dropped today. Actually we've discussed
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this previously. Uh, Tiger and Phil. Golf's most fascinating rivalry
book is now out on Amazon, and make sure you
you read or you do the audio book as well. Bob,
thanks so much for joining us. I mentioned this and
Dan Buyer, who is our golf and Fishionadoe. He actually
I actually made a good point in terms of golf,
which I never do. But if I were to tell you, okay,
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I don't know, um, if I would tell you a
couple of years ago that Tiger Woods would be seen
as some sort of heroic beloved figure at the p
g A Championship and and Phil would be persona non grata,
what would you say? I would I would further that,
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I'd say you could have said that to me February first,
and I thought that would have been crazy. You know,
I realized Tiger has been has has had a sense
of of of of a comeback and and and you know,
being beloved here the last couple of years, especially after
he won the Masters and then all that he's been
through physically with his back and then obviously had a
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horrific car crash. But Phil was never in any kind
of public dismay whatsoever. He was the people's champion. You know,
twenty years ago he won the he uh, he didn't
win the US Open at Best Page and tied or
did and still was the more popular guy for the
For the roles to be reversed is really shocking. And uh,
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for you know, for Tiger to be so beloved and he's,
as you said, he's sort of the heroic figure and
still did not even be part of the scene is
really remarkable. Yeah. I mean, live long enough, you he'll you'll,
you'll see it all. Um, what about Tiger? What? What
is what? What's the real story behind his physical shape
as of now in comparison to where he was at Augusta. Well,
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I think it's probably incrementally better than it was that Augusta. Um,
I'm not sure that we should expect, you know, a
huge change in five weeks. Uh, you know, he's had
time to arrest and recover and then the build back up.
I think the big differences are going to be that
he's not playing, um, you know, a course that's his
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strenuous of a walk. You know, Augusta National was the
worst place to come back for him in terms of
that great place to come back for his game, the
place as well as any buddy, horrible place to come back. Physically,
This will be not as much of a physical challenge,
but he's he's not as familiar with it. Of course,
none of these guys really are. I mean, Southern Hills
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hasn't been used at this level for a long time.
Uh So that part of it. He's not really giving
up much ground, even though he did win here and
oh seven fifteen years ago. Um, but the physical part
is I think what we're all looking for. He admitted
yesterday that now he was just lacking the stamina, and
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that that he was a little upset with himself that
he didn't have more uh that that you know, he
was sort of running out of gas at the end
of rounds. Certainly on the weekend he didn't look good
finishing those rounds. His leg appeared to really be bothering him.
Now he can't will his leg to get better, you know.
But I'm guessing there's probably things he can do for
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first stamina that would help him. And his game looks solid,
you know, just standing over a ball and watching him
to hit the shots. If if we didn't know what
we know, you wouldn't know anything was really wrong, you know.
I mean, he still was a world class iron player,
chips it great, still has a great short game, gets
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it out there plenty far off the tea, and then
you know, the next question is is during competition can
he put it together, make a few putts and then
withstand the physical rigors that he's got to deal with
in walking So far, Bob Harricks our guests on The
dog Ally Show, Scotty Scheffler has been amazing so far
this year. How does this course set up to his game?
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I'm not sure any courts is bad for Scottie Scheffler really. Um,
you know, the four wins this year completely different circumstances.
He wanted Phoenix, which is a ice warm weather not
a terribly difficult golf course. He wanted bay Hill, the
Arnod Palmer Invitational, which was brutally difficult. The winning score
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was only four under play, very very tough on the weekend,
very hard greens, very deep rough. Then he won the
match play to a completely different format, you know, it's
not stroke play like they play every week. And then
of course Augusta Nationals unlike any other place. So that's
sleep good range of courses that he performed well on.
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And this is probably a course that's more suited to
where he grew up in Texas, you know, and then
than anything else. So it's it's it's one that he
said he really liked when he played here in college,
when he played at the University of Texas, they played
here a few times and he really liked it. Came
here for a practice around a few weeks ago and
said the same thing. So I don't think the golf
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course is going to be any detriment to him, you know,
if he's if he's still got the same game he's
had he was the last couple of months, then he
ought to then he ought to be a factor in
some way. When will we see Phil again? Question? I
think the big thing we look for now is the
show up to that live golf event outside of London
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next month. It's the week before the US Open. It's
their first event. Five million dollar perse twenty million to
the individual portions four million to the winner. If Phil
goes there, that to me signals he's ready to move
on from the PGA Tour, because I don't see how
they would have him back, you know, he he's caused
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such a disruption as it is. Um they don't like
the idea of him sort of helping them get off
the ground, and so I think that would then be
a nonstarter for PGA Tour events. Then the next question is,
is the US Open let him play the next week? Um?
I think that's dicey territory to get into. For the
US Open, Frankly, Um, they're you know, they're all about
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who qualifies. You know, if you qualify, you're in. And
then the most open of the tournaments, it's the US Open. Uh.
You and I could try to qualify if our handicapped
low enough, and if we shot the scores, we get in,
we'll fill. Then he has he has a five year
exemption for winning last year's p g A And are
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they going to deny him because they don't like what
he said or what he did? You know? So I
think it's gonna be pretty interesting here coming up. Does
he go to the London event? Does he then play
the US Open? Um? I did want to ask you
about a couple of the guys. Rory shot at sixty
four in the final round at Augusta, and I know
that's a while ago, and heck, he hadn't one since
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I think was Vegas in October right right, Um, But
it does feel like, are we to that point where
Roy's gonna win one of these majors? Get back in
the back in the discussion of the elite golfers? Is
that is that? Is that fair? Absolutely fair? Um? And
you know I keep saying it's going to happen and
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and maybe one of these days at will. But you know,
we're going on eight years. You know, he his last
major was the p g A played in August then
and shoot, was in the fourteen. It's crazy, crazy, I
think it's been that long. He won four. He won
four so fast and then he stopped. And you know,
obviously you've had a lot of great success. He's still
a top ten player in the world. It really hasn't
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contended in a lot of majors in that time. He
had a lot of back door top fives, a lot
of you know, just like you said, sixty four Augusta,
now sixty four on Sunday does you a lot of
good if you're two or three back. You know, he
was pretty far back, and that's unfore fortunate for him.
He keeps kind of getting behind, and uh, it will
be it would be nice for him to get off
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to a good start. You know, he's playing with Tiger
and Jordan's speed first two rounds and gonna be a
lot of attention on that group. You know that can
be good or bad. Um. You know, it gets you,
it gets you focused. But it's also a lot of commotion.
So it's gonna be interesting to see. I mean, he
plays some all morning and you know there it is.
I mean, if he shoots a good score, if he
breaks part, he's right there again. If he's overpalled with
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back to this here he is trying to catch up
again like he's been doing for all these majors. Should
be should be a fun watch. You got you know,
I mean you mentioned Speat. I mean he wanted Hilton
Head a couple weeks ago, obviously, you know John Rams,
the guy that always in contention. Should be a great
week at uh IN in Tulsa. Enjoy and Bob, thanks
so much for joining us. Look forward to reading the book. Thanks.
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Do I appreciate you having me all right that that book,
remember is uh Tiger and Phil Golf's most fascinating rivalry.
It's now out in Amazon and in the first chapter,
the book deals with Tiger and Phil pairing at the
Ryder Cup and the height of disdain for each other.
How Sutton's attempt to pair them backfired to the point
where it hurt his own career. They didn't beat Anybody's
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a great qute, they didn't beat anybody. It couldn't be
their fault. It had to be my fault. It had
to be Two best players in America are supposed to
win most of the time. It should have worked, but
they will never have another chance. Yeah, that's a that's
a that's a that's a If you're any sort of
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paid equal as them in the Olympics, in the World Cup.
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Are a different business. Not only are they a showcase
of our global talent, but they've got big corporations called
the i o C, the International Olympic Committee or in
soccer FIFA. UM. Money's never an issue. UM. What is
an issue though, was with all that money they make,
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how do you spend it? They're not only we're not
only representing our country, but we're representing to me ideals.
Our women have been globally dominant as long as I
can remember. Our men have been as long as I remember.
How do I put this nicely? Globally challenged if our
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World Cup teams are a representation US collective, US as men,
us as women equally. I don't want to hear about revenue.
Revenue is not the issue for the Soccer Federation. Okay,
they're not discount shopping. Nobody's at Walmart here, right, It's
(34:12):
how you spend the huge revenue you have. It's the
right thing to do and the right time to do it.
I mean it's it's it's contradictory to everything Colin has
ever said, right when it has nothing to do with
the revenue. Because it's the right thing to do. I'm
not disputing whether or not it's the right thing to do.
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But you can on one hand say this is a
business and go like, look, I know that this doesn't
make any sense in business, but let's come massively overpay
the women who, by the way, used to be dominant
in the sport. It used to be right that this
is a very important thing. Like one of the things
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that our country has done rightfully for since Title nine
win effect in right is we support collegiate women's athletics,
which has been the well spring for so many of
these super talented female soccer players. The freedoms that women
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had to compete in. The support that they've had, by
the way on the backs of college football and college
basketball has allowed them to be previously dominant in the
world should be pointed out hadn't won the World Cup,
hadn't won a gold medal since two thousand twelve. If anything,
we're dealing with dated data as the rest of the
world has caught up and in some levels passed the
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US women in soccer. But my point is it actually
has nothing to do with their level of success. Nothing
because the men haven't been successful either. This is this
actually is purely a revenue play. This is purely about
what you bring to the table, right, women's tennis for
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a long time one to be paid the same as
the men. And the argument was for the men is
that they're playing five set matches and at Wimbledon, remember
there didn't used to be a tie break and those
things would go forever when we were playing three set matches.
So just in terms of the amount of time now,
there was a time when the women's sport was more
popular than the men's sport, and those tables should have
(36:19):
been even kay for for the women. For for Colin
to say, hey, this is the right thing to do.
That's fine. Just don't tell me that there's any sort
of business parallel to it or this is it is
the wrong decision in regards to the bottom line. They're
not US soccer federations not swimming in money. They don't
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have untapped sons of money. Has nothing to do with
the IOC. This simply has to do with the compensation
for the most talented women in the United States playing
soccer in comparison to the men. The men aren't as good,
but they're far more popular. This is just like in
college athletics, okay, alge athletics, where people talk about the
television revenue generated by a school and they think it
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has to do with how good that school is. It
does not. It has to do with how many people
watch that school and people. While people should watch Villanova
more than they watched other programs because Villanova has been
dominant in the New Big East, the fact is that
Villanova does not rate the way that Syracuse rates or
Kansas or Kentucky rates. That's the reality of it. That's
(37:27):
how business works. We're doing encounter to it, which oh yeah,
by the way, is not actually evening the playing field
the way we're being told, it's evening the playing field. Um,
all right, I'll get to what Dan Patrick had to say,
uh next hour about about Jimmy Butler, but come up
next Look, we got the Western Conference Finals starting tonight.
(37:50):
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I don't want to say conspiracy theory, but like of um,
what's the word I'm looking for? Shoot of uh? Would
you say politics or buy or how would you describe
the thought that Tiger gets beneficial but beneficial treatment, he
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gets the preferential treatment. That's a preferential treatment because well
he's he's Eldrick Tiger Woods. And the early start time
it's it's better to start early Thursday, obviously when when
you have a banged up body, it started easy to
start early Thursday one because the course is only going
to speed up now late Friday obviously, barring a thunderstorm
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Thursday night or Friday, it's gonna be on fire fast,
which is hard because het u out of the length.
But it does allow him to do his rest his
body longer, whereas if you got the late start Friday
Thursday and the early start Thursday, that's a hard turnaround
for any older golf or little one who's been through
the number of surgeries. Right, That is correct, Yes, it did.
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Do people not like it in the world of golf,
Like is there like a pushback against it? There's some
guys and you'd probably have to ask them if they
go out late on Thursday and maybe they have momentum,
maybe they want to get right back out there Friday.
The softening of the course kind of even itself out
because if conditions are the same, which they never ever are,
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but if they happen to be the same, you don't
get a rain shower at a certain point. You know
you're gonna have maybe a certain course on you know, Thursday,
and then maybe one on Friday if they decide to
put water. But to your point, yeah, if you can
get out Thursday morning, maybe uh and have a little
do on the on the ground, it helps. It's the
rest is the biggest thing that you mentioned, and for Tiger,
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because how long it takes him to prep and get
ready for around to go and play and then end
at I don't know, six o'clock, seven o'clock local time
in Tulsa, and then I have to turn around and
tee it up at you know, eight or nine in
the morning when he's getting up at four in the morning. Anyway,
to get his body ready. Yeah, that would be a
tough task. That's a tough, tough, tough task. I'm excited
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to see this course because it was redone in eighteen.
It was already a spectacular course. But what you're you're
hearing from people is my experience. All the stuff that
they've ready done is fine. But but like, look, it's
it's really a US Open course. That's the real thing
about this. It's a US Open course in that um,
the greens are crazy fast. But but the it's the
(03:39):
rough is so thick and it's not it's not it's not.
We'll go ahead, Yeah, that's all right, Dave. Under the renovation,
the rough is kind of gone away. It's just the
with what guilt. It's like master style a little bit. Yeah,
Like there's you're not gonna get in in the US
Open has had their own, you know, changes to make,
(04:00):
but you're not gonna see like hey, on the side,
what you're gonna see is a lot of fast, uh,
you know, gathering areas around the greens. What's really interesting
about this is is they tried to extend the length
of certain holes. One of the storylines and leading up
to this is the cross traffic that you're getting. For example,
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if you're teeing off on the seventh hole, which is
right behind the sixth green, your tea shot technically could
be going over the back side of the sixth hole
because there's only so much room. You know the area
much better than I do, Dug. I don't think they
can buy a parking lot across the street like Augusta
National does and then just expand their course. They had
to find ways to find length within and so now
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it's very tight between tea boxes and greens. There's one
point between the third and six holes where I kid
you not, um, you're teeing off on a hole. Um,
I believe it's on the sixth hole, while the part
three third is where uh, you would be hitting over.
So you're gonna have to wait and see on who
was we're hitting because something is gonna be teeing off
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maybe a hundred yards from you as you're playing at
two hundred yard hole. It's very yeah, under the renovations surrounded. Yeah,
there's just there's there's no room. It's um, you know,
Tulsa being a and and Tulsa is a city that
Tulsa it feel is like it feels more like St.
Louis and a Midwestern city or as Oklahoma city feels
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more like Dallas in a southwestern city. And it too.
It's hard to explain that to somebody who hasn't lived
or spent a lot of time in both. But but
Tulsa and and Southern Hills is it's a traditional like
country club in the southern part of the city. And
to answer your question, like, no, you can't expand because
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people's homes around around the course. Right, there's there's a
couple of streets Louis Lewis Avenue and sixty one, and
then there there are other parts which you know, there's
there's sixty goes below it, but there's just no room
because you have to got people's homes and there. It's
not like um Augusta Nashal, where some of those homes
are tying little homes that you know they blow to
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the price six there's one guy right who has and
sold like these are really nice homes on a really
nice course. Like there's nowhere to go to go. You
gotta you gotta do the best with whatever you got.
In terms of that, Augusta literally like rerouted an entire
street like where you used to you know some people
maybe you would park is actually where now the fifth
he is. It's crazy because it's right across the Street.
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Now they've you know, purchased so much of the land
around it. But I mean there's only you know, that's
only something that Augusta National can do. But yeah, that's
the the pace of play is actually going to be
a question because you're just wondering do you hit and
it's the par three sixth hole that's gonna be hitting
over the te box on the par four third but
you have to wait for them to hit before you
can hit. And now you're alterna, you know, alternating, and
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if play is coming up behind you, that can make
things slow on Thursday and Friday. That that's not fun.
Oh and and the good thing is that's like it's
not like it's hot, right right, better it would be right,
you said, like if it's July and August when the
p GA used to be there, or June, like when
they have the US Open there in two thousand one,
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different story. But yeah, it's still supposed to be like
ninety degrees, yeah, ninety tomorrow eight on Friday, humidity, so hot, humid,
and then it's supposed to get some rain Saturday and
uh and cool Sunday, so it's gonna be a beautiful weekend.
We'll see how much they get in on Saturday. But yeah,
that's a lot on your body, I do think. And
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this is I had this discussion with somebody we're talking
about the heat. I was talking to some buddies, uh,
some some dads in my basketballractice that we're talking about
the course, and I said, you know, playing early in
the morning is not bad because especially when you're older, like,
it's way easier to loosen up when it's warm and humid,
as long as you're not out there when it's hot
(07:54):
at four in the afternoon, right peak heat humidity, that's
the time. Now he has that on Friday, but it's
supposed to be a little cooler on Friday, so the
weather gods may may help him out. And we'll see
how it affects everything else. So I we'll get more
to that. I was actually gonna ask you the question
because I've never been on the grounds. But if you
even watch, if somebody watches golf channel, you'll see there
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is some there are some hills, there are some elevated greens,
and and I think that was one of the things
with Tiger of while it's not Augusta National, that was
a question when he was at Augusta National. How could
he handle walking for four days? You've been there? Do
you think is there is there? It's it's not it's
not like Augusta National, but there is. You know there's
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there's sections of it which it does, you know, go
up and down and uh it's I mean, like, look,
it's as traditional and American country club golf course as
you're ever gonna find, right, Like, I think one is
elevated right, you can kind of oversee the whole course,
and it's that that that kind of classic on a Saturday.
You go out there with a breakfast ball and you
(08:56):
hit one and it feels like you hit it a
mile because you're elevated, right, and then he plays the ball.
So yeah, there's some up and down. I don't think
it's the same as like, and I've never been to Augusta.
I've only heard like august is way way more hilly
then TV will ever do it justice, like it's a
hard long walk. I don't remember that. And I've only
played Southern Hills twice, So I'm not gonna sit here
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and tell you I'm an expert at it, and I
have not played it or seen it since it's been redone.
I'm curious if if Tiger. Obviously last month it was
in question whether he was going to play. He said
he was going to play in St. Andrews. But the
PG in U s open, we're up in the air.
But yeah, it tells us a little bit how he's feeling.
And he said as much that the you know, feel
stronger this week. Yeah, five weeks of five weeks of
(09:41):
training for it. He knows what to expect. I think
you'll play well. I think you'll make the cut. I
just you know, it's really hard to to guess that
he'll be super competitive at the top. I mean this
is I mean we're still are we a year out
where like a year out from from his surgeries, right,
I mean like it doesn't feel like I mean, it's
crazy that he's playing golf at majors just in Sans
(10:02):
and it was late February. He had multiple surgeries on
that like amazing, that's dampire will get to him in
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(10:26):
Jimmy Butler scored forty. Here's Butler on his on his
on his play. I speak for my teammates and the
Miami he organization, And whenever I say I know what
I'm capable of, UM and I don't. I don't do
this to score forty points. I play the way that
I played and win. UM by all I means necessary
And it just so happened that I scored forty. But uh,
(10:48):
if I score forty and lose, I'm gonna be really
piste off. UM. I mean that team came out as
a completely different team out of locker room, but they were.
It wasn't non competitive, but it's the first half of
like man, the Celtics are just better. They just have
more scoring options. They have more they spent and uh,
and the Heat came out and it was a completely
(11:10):
different band out of bio the leadership of Butler, and
I thought the point that he made and I don't
know people understood it. It was like Jimmy Butler is
not a big time scorer, but it does feel like
he has what he wanted to call the competitive greatness
or just the ability at the right time to crank
up that Listen, you know what, you need me to score.
I'll carry this team if everybody else isn't ready. This
(11:33):
is Jimmy Butler saying what happened at halftime. It's crazy
because he didn't have to say too much. We already
knew what we were doing wrong, turning the ball over,
not getting back, and so we talked about it and
we came out and I was like, you know what,
we're at home. We gotta play better basketball. We gotta
play better as a team. And it should be pointed
out that the Celtics, you know, didn't have Marcus Smart
(11:56):
and obviously, um, you know, he's the defensive play or
the year in the league. Where you think he's the
best defender in the league or not doesn't really matter.
And then you combine that with the fact that you
know you don't have you're starting big guy who's kind
of been uh not only a revelation, but when you
don't have Al Horford, it limits your ability to play
(12:20):
to open up the lane right. Robert Williams was great
in the first half dunking, blocking shots. But when he's
in the game, it allows bam a Tobio to be
a rim protector when he's If Al Horford is in
the game, because he's become a viable weapon from three
now a sudden, it becomes a lot harder for bam
Adebio to protect the rim. That's obviously your Hopefully he
comes back in game two. Whenever you have him three
(12:41):
and beyond, uh, it'll be a different series. But that
was like two different games. That was That was nuts.
That was nuts. Um. Coming up next, we got The
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(13:01):
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the middle of the show, the middle of the way.
It's time for in the middle of the way, the midway. Okay,
so here's what we do. Okay, we don't we We
love sports, who love talking about sports, but we're also
(14:12):
four dudes and sitting around and talk about stuff that
we want you to kind of relate to. So uh,
I chased too. I think you came up with this
one right. Yeah, you know what? I saw Charles Barkley
say something on T and T about San Francisco. Do
we have that? Sound John? I think the apps are
gonna be better at small ball because of Luca No
(14:34):
bucking hell of that dude. One on one Hell, I
mean San Francisco. We will hate Seco City. I hate see.
I just don't like it. I gotta like a thing
because you all like it. No, I'm just asking why
I've never had stunt on Train's not backwards I'm gonna
going to the trail ship after going are we going
(14:56):
to visit going family union? All right? So it kind
of made me think, by the way, I love San Francisco,
I hate what's been done to it. But anyways, I
thought to myself, like, what would be a place that
I want to go to, not only to go to
as a city I really haven't been to, but to
(15:16):
see an actual sporting event. They're a game, a team,
and I just assumed that we could all kind of
relate to this one. Now, Doug, you're well traveled, You've
been everywhere, overseas, everywhere, but you know, Ramos and I
were common folk. We haven't been around the world like you.
I want to go to Chicago. I've been, I've passed
(15:37):
through there through the airport and stuff. But I want
to go to Chicago and I want to see a
day game at Wrigley against the Cardinals. That's that's number
one on my drink beer out in the right. You
gotta do the entire experience. You have to. You got
to soak it up with the locals. I need to.
(15:59):
If want to cash in on this one, I need
to do it soon because it's not going to be
there for much longer. I want to go to a
game in Buffalo and to see the Bills play, And
to me, it's not even about Monday night. It actually
maybe better if it was a one Eastern time kickoff
to see how Bill's Mafia gets down at eight am
on a Sunday morning. But with their new stadium in
(16:20):
and because it's unlike so like any other NFL stadium,
I want to go to Buffalo and see a Buffalo
Bills game, and the temperature needs to be all around freezing.
It doesn't. I've done enough of those in my life.
I'm fine with a September twenty game, that is, I
am good with that promos. Well, as you know, I'm
(16:44):
a big, gigantic, humongous baseball fan, and so I enjoyed
the stadiums, so I would think Fenway Park for me
would be someplace I would love to go watch a
baseball game against the Yankees, a Yankee heated rivalry game
between the Yankees and the Boston Red Sox. And from
what I understand, the Fenway brook is very small, so
it's very tight fine when you sit in the stand,
(17:08):
so that would be kind of interesting to be on
top of somebody, that's my number two. Have you been
dug to a Red Sox game? But but I do. Um, My,
My Hayes is going to he goes to summer camp
in Maine and he's got to be the twenty second
I believe. So I just check last night because I'm
gonna fly him out there and the twenty one they
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play the Tigers. So I want to take him to that.
I want to will take him to a game. So
I haven't taken him. He hasn't been to a game,
but I've been to a game at Fenway. I've been
to Wrigley. That's great. So um, I love this whole
idea of the whole day experience. Okay, but I'm having
trouble with aering it down to one. But I would
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say the first thing that I want to do, I've
talked about doing and I'm meant to do it and
I haven't done it. I want to go to a
Green Bay Packer football game. I want to go to
Green Bay Packer football game. And I don't want I
don't I don't necessarily need it to be freezing cold.
I actually I mean falls. No, I'd love like a
a fall Crisp Fall Day, Crisp Fall Day, you know,
(18:12):
and then like the but again the whole thing tailgate
with some dudes outside, maybe Aaron Nagler from uh Cheese
Cheese Head TV. Right, drink some beer, eat some brods,
go in, uh gold Peck, go right, watch the game.
I mean that That's that's one. Now, Look, that's not
the only one I would do. That's probably the only.
(18:33):
I got a buddy. Pittsburgh Steelers would be probably second,
but Packers of the NFL one. College football, I've done Alabama.
I've been to Tennessee. UM, I'd like to do the
Grove at Old Miss. I'd like to do l s U.
Uh Texas sounds pretty awesome against Alabama this year, but
I think I think LSU would probably be the next one.
(18:54):
The one in college football, I'd like to do. UM
college basketball, did Duke this here. I've been to Carolina.
I think I've kind of been everywhere. College Basco eyes,
baseball eyes, try to think baseball. What's the next? Oh,
I I'd always I've never been in Camden yards. I've
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been in Camden. I've heard great things. Plus, I love
bald I like Baltimore, not just from the wire. But
the food in Bald in Bald, Baltimore, Right, I dig
as well? I don't know. Um, oh I know, I
got one. I want to go to Bristol Motor Speedway
lit Hiver Racing. Yeah, there you go, A little short track,
(19:40):
a little little titled Dalladega Superspeedway Indoor on my list
that I would I would like to go to as well.
An very cool. Any places outside of America that we
would like to go to. I mean, you want to
go to one of those one of the big soccer stadiums, right,
I want to go to what's it? What's uh? Is
it called the camp? What? What's My brother has been there?
(20:00):
Um it's in Spain? Was that is that real Madrid's place?
You guys know what what I'm talking about? I wish I did.
I wish I was a little bit more versed. I mean,
I'd like to go to a Premiership game. Um you know,
like I don't know. Yeah, that's what I thought you
(20:25):
would do. St Andrew's, Uh, buyer is that he's something
that's on your list? Um, here's the thing I would
want to play St Andrew's more so than just going
there and seeing an event, and sometimes when you see
the events with golf, it really makes you want to
play the course even more. In St Andrew's you can
play it's public. But that would be that would be
(20:46):
my only drawback. I'd actually rather see Wimbledon than see
an Open Championship at St Andrews. But I'd rather play
St Andrews above all of it. Yeah, something about center court,
something about the grass, I mean, like the first day
of Wimbledon, just to see the not you know, like
how it's just so perfect and it looks so intimate,
you know, because it's so close, and then you have
(21:06):
the Royal Box like that is that sounds like a day? Right?
You could do St Andrews in the morning and then
go to wimbled in the afternoon. I don't think. I
don't think the ones in Scotland. Ones in England so
am I want to buy a map? No, they have
like bullet trains and stuff. And then you could go
over to Wembley Stadium. And so Wembley Stadium is like
Wembley Stadium. Okay, Uh, there's there's uh, what's the one,
(21:32):
There's the one in the well, there's the baron Byron
Munich Stadium in Germany, which is like, yeah, maons, yeah,
that's what it is. Right, there's old Tratford, there's old
Trafford Camp, Camp, New whatever, that's where. That's where Barcelona plays.
That's the one I was talking about in Spain. I
do think you need to know the name of it
(21:52):
if you want to go to it. That's that. That
would be the thing. Although high Mark Stadium just does
not ring well with Buffalo doing. I don't like doing
the stadiums when they're empty. Oh just a tour, yeah, yeah,
no thanks, no thanks. I've been fortunate enough to see
a lot of the ballparks you guys mentioned, so it's good.
(22:14):
We can we can do it. I'll give you an
underrated city I'd like to go to in a second,
and you'll you'll really appreciate this one in a second.
Nobody said Miller Park. Have been there many a time.
That's what I want to do. Milwaukee on a No, seriously,
Milwaukee in the summer fest stuck out the show. Fox
sport trader Bob Harrick joins, This Golf Writer is a
new book out, Okay, I dropped today. Actually we've discussed
(22:35):
this previously. Uh, Tiger and Phil. Golf's most fascinating rivalry
book is now out on Amazon, and make sure you
you read or you do the audio book as well. Bob,
thanks so much for joining us. I mentioned this and
Dan Buyer, who is our golf and Fishionadoe. He actually
I actually made a good point in terms of golf,
which I never do. But if I were to tell you, okay,
(22:58):
I don't know, um, if I would tell you a
couple of years ago that Tiger Woods would be seen
as some sort of heroic beloved figure at the p
g A Championship and and Phil would be persona non grata,
what would you say? I would I would further that,
(23:21):
I'd say you could have said that to me February first,
and I thought that would have been crazy. You know,
I realized Tiger has been has has had a sense
of of of of a comeback and and and you know,
being beloved here the last couple of years, especially after
he won the Masters and then all that he's been
through physically with his back and then obviously had a
(23:44):
horrific car crash. But Phil was never in any kind
of public dismay whatsoever. He was the people's champion. You know,
twenty years ago he won the he uh, he didn't
win the US Open at Best Page and tied or
did and still was the more popular guy for the
For the roles to be reversed is really shocking. And uh,
(24:07):
for you know, for Tiger to be so beloved and he's,
as you said, he's sort of the heroic figure and
still did not even be part of the scene is
really remarkable. Yeah. I mean, live long enough, you he'll you'll,
you'll see it all. Um, what about Tiger? What? What
is what? What's the real story behind his physical shape
as of now in comparison to where he was at Augusta. Well,
(24:29):
I think it's probably incrementally better than it was that Augusta. Um,
I'm not sure that we should expect, you know, a
huge change in five weeks. Uh, you know, he's had
time to arrest and recover and then the build back up.
I think the big differences are going to be that
he's not playing, um, you know, a course that's his
(24:49):
strenuous of a walk. You know, Augusta National was the
worst place to come back for him in terms of
that great place to come back for his game, the
place as well as any buddy, horrible place to come back. Physically,
This will be not as much of a physical challenge,
but he's he's not as familiar with it. Of course,
none of these guys really are. I mean, Southern Hills
(25:10):
hasn't been used at this level for a long time.
Uh So that part of it. He's not really giving
up much ground, even though he did win here and
oh seven fifteen years ago. Um, but the physical part
is I think what we're all looking for. He admitted
yesterday that now he was just lacking the stamina, and
(25:32):
that that he was a little upset with himself that
he didn't have more uh that that you know, he
was sort of running out of gas at the end
of rounds. Certainly on the weekend he didn't look good
finishing those rounds. His leg appeared to really be bothering him.
Now he can't will his leg to get better, you know.
But I'm guessing there's probably things he can do for
(25:53):
first stamina that would help him. And his game looks solid,
you know, just standing over a ball and watching him
to hit the shots. If if we didn't know what
we know, you wouldn't know anything was really wrong, you know.
I mean, he still was a world class iron player,
chips it great, still has a great short game, gets
(26:14):
it out there plenty far off the tea, and then
you know, the next question is is during competition can
he put it together, make a few putts and then
withstand the physical rigors that he's got to deal with
in walking So far, Bob Harricks our guests on The
dog Ally Show, Scotty Scheffler has been amazing so far
this year. How does this course set up to his game?
(26:37):
I'm not sure any courts is bad for Scottie Scheffler really. Um,
you know, the four wins this year completely different circumstances.
He wanted Phoenix, which is a ice warm weather not
a terribly difficult golf course. He wanted bay Hill, the
Arnod Palmer Invitational, which was brutally difficult. The winning score
(26:58):
was only four under play, very very tough on the weekend,
very hard greens, very deep rough. Then he won the
match play to a completely different format, you know, it's
not stroke play like they play every week. And then
of course Augusta Nationals unlike any other place. So that's
sleep good range of courses that he performed well on.
(27:21):
And this is probably a course that's more suited to
where he grew up in Texas, you know, and then
than anything else. So it's it's it's one that he
said he really liked when he played here in college,
when he played at the University of Texas, they played
here a few times and he really liked it. Came
here for a practice around a few weeks ago and
said the same thing. So I don't think the golf
(27:42):
course is going to be any detriment to him, you know,
if he's if he's still got the same game he's
had he was the last couple of months, then he
ought to then he ought to be a factor in
some way. When will we see Phil again? Question? I
think the big thing we look for now is the
show up to that live golf event outside of London
(28:03):
next month. It's the week before the US Open. It's
their first event. Five million dollar perse twenty million to
the individual portions four million to the winner. If Phil
goes there, that to me signals he's ready to move
on from the PGA Tour, because I don't see how
they would have him back, you know, he he's caused
(28:24):
such a disruption as it is. Um they don't like
the idea of him sort of helping them get off
the ground, and so I think that would then be
a nonstarter for PGA Tour events. Then the next question is,
is the US Open let him play the next week? Um?
I think that's dicey territory to get into. For the
US Open, Frankly, Um, they're you know, they're all about
(28:48):
who qualifies. You know, if you qualify, you're in. And
then the most open of the tournaments, it's the US Open. Uh.
You and I could try to qualify if our handicapped
low enough, and if we shot the scores, we get in,
we'll fill. Then he has he has a five year
exemption for winning last year's p g A And are
(29:08):
they going to deny him because they don't like what
he said or what he did? You know? So I
think it's gonna be pretty interesting here coming up. Does
he go to the London event? Does he then play
the US Open? Um? I did want to ask you
about a couple of the guys. Rory shot at sixty
four in the final round at Augusta, and I know
that's a while ago, and heck, he hadn't one since
(29:29):
I think was Vegas in October right right, Um, But
it does feel like, are we to that point where
Roy's gonna win one of these majors? Get back in
the back in the discussion of the elite golfers? Is
that is that? Is that fair? Absolutely fair? Um? And
you know I keep saying it's going to happen and
(29:50):
and maybe one of these days at will. But you know,
we're going on eight years. You know, he his last
major was the p g A played in August then
and shoot, was in the fourteen. It's crazy, crazy, I
think it's been that long. He won four. He won
four so fast and then he stopped. And you know,
obviously you've had a lot of great success. He's still
a top ten player in the world. It really hasn't
(30:12):
contended in a lot of majors in that time. He
had a lot of back door top fives, a lot
of you know, just like you said, sixty four Augusta,
now sixty four on Sunday does you a lot of
good if you're two or three back. You know, he
was pretty far back, and that's unfore fortunate for him.
He keeps kind of getting behind, and uh, it will
be it would be nice for him to get off
(30:33):
to a good start. You know, he's playing with Tiger
and Jordan's speed first two rounds and gonna be a
lot of attention on that group. You know that can
be good or bad. Um. You know, it gets you,
it gets you focused. But it's also a lot of commotion.
So it's gonna be interesting to see. I mean, he
plays some all morning and you know there it is.
I mean, if he shoots a good score, if he
breaks part, he's right there again. If he's overpalled with
(30:55):
back to this here he is trying to catch up
again like he's been doing for all these majors. Should
be should be a fun watch. You got you know,
I mean you mentioned Speat. I mean he wanted Hilton
Head a couple weeks ago, obviously, you know John Rams,
the guy that always in contention. Should be a great
week at uh IN in Tulsa. Enjoy and Bob, thanks
so much for joining us. Look forward to reading the book. Thanks.
(31:17):
Do I appreciate you having me all right that that book,
remember is uh Tiger and Phil Golf's most fascinating rivalry.
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Ryder Cup and the height of disdain for each other.
How Sutton's attempt to pair them backfired to the point
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(31:40):
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Colin Cowherd talking about the US women's national team getting
paid equal as them in the Olympics, in the World Cup.
(33:03):
Are a different business. Not only are they a showcase
of our global talent, but they've got big corporations called
the i o C, the International Olympic Committee or in
soccer FIFA. UM. Money's never an issue. UM. What is
an issue though, was with all that money they make,
(33:25):
how do you spend it? They're not only we're not
only representing our country, but we're representing to me ideals.
Our women have been globally dominant as long as I
can remember. Our men have been as long as I remember.
How do I put this nicely? Globally challenged if our
(33:48):
World Cup teams are a representation US collective, US as men,
us as women equally. I don't want to hear about revenue.
Revenue is not the issue for the Soccer Federation. Okay,
they're not discount shopping. Nobody's at Walmart here, right, It's
(34:12):
how you spend the huge revenue you have. It's the
right thing to do and the right time to do it.
I mean it's it's it's contradictory to everything Colin has
ever said, right when it has nothing to do with
the revenue. Because it's the right thing to do. I'm
not disputing whether or not it's the right thing to do.
(34:34):
But you can on one hand say this is a
business and go like, look, I know that this doesn't
make any sense in business, but let's come massively overpay
the women who, by the way, used to be dominant
in the sport. It used to be right that this
is a very important thing. Like one of the things
(34:54):
that our country has done rightfully for since Title nine
win effect in right is we support collegiate women's athletics,
which has been the well spring for so many of
these super talented female soccer players. The freedoms that women
(35:14):
had to compete in. The support that they've had, by
the way on the backs of college football and college
basketball has allowed them to be previously dominant in the
world should be pointed out hadn't won the World Cup,
hadn't won a gold medal since two thousand twelve. If anything,
we're dealing with dated data as the rest of the
world has caught up and in some levels passed the
(35:37):
US women in soccer. But my point is it actually
has nothing to do with their level of success. Nothing
because the men haven't been successful either. This is this
actually is purely a revenue play. This is purely about
what you bring to the table, right, women's tennis for
(35:57):
a long time one to be paid the same as
the men. And the argument was for the men is
that they're playing five set matches and at Wimbledon, remember
there didn't used to be a tie break and those
things would go forever when we were playing three set matches.
So just in terms of the amount of time now,
there was a time when the women's sport was more
popular than the men's sport, and those tables should have
(36:19):
been even kay for for the women. For for Colin
to say, hey, this is the right thing to do.
That's fine. Just don't tell me that there's any sort
of business parallel to it or this is it is
the wrong decision in regards to the bottom line. They're
not US soccer federations not swimming in money. They don't
(36:42):
have untapped sons of money. Has nothing to do with
the IOC. This simply has to do with the compensation
for the most talented women in the United States playing
soccer in comparison to the men. The men aren't as good,
but they're far more popular. This is just like in
college athletics, okay, alge athletics, where people talk about the
television revenue generated by a school and they think it
(37:05):
has to do with how good that school is. It
does not. It has to do with how many people
watch that school and people. While people should watch Villanova
more than they watched other programs because Villanova has been
dominant in the New Big East, the fact is that
Villanova does not rate the way that Syracuse rates or
Kansas or Kentucky rates. That's the reality of it. That's
(37:27):
how business works. We're doing encounter to it, which oh yeah,
by the way, is not actually evening the playing field
the way we're being told, it's evening the playing field. Um,
all right, I'll get to what Dan Patrick had to say,
uh next hour about about Jimmy Butler, but come up
next Look, we got the Western Conference Finals starting tonight.
(37:50):
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