December 8, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug drills down on Notre Dame's schedule. In this week's installment of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most about the weekend. Doug talks about the Packers' win over the Bears and the implications that has. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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I got a lot of good stuff on the a
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rish Let me do this. Okay, we'll get to love
and hate in one second. I'm here's what I'm gonna do. Okay,
I'm going to tell you really quickly why there's a
narrative out there. And I heard Colin Cowherd. I heard
Colin Cowherd talk about Notre Dame and how all they
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had to do was beat A and M and Florida. Right, Remember,
freshman starting quarterback. First two games, lose to Miami in
a great game, lose to A and M and some
crazy crazy stuff at home by one point. They lost
by four points two games, first two games of the season.
And there's a lot of people like, hey, their schedule
wasn't good enough. Bull you're wrong. Okay, you're wrong. Let
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me tell you what their schedule is. SEC team on
the road, Big ten team at home. Excuse me, let's
go in order. Okay, Miami, who's an ACC team? Okay,
Remember they play I leave six ACC games a year.
So this whole idea that they need to join a conference.
They have a hybrid agreement with the ACC. They're in
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it for all the other sports and basically in it
except you don't count it and they can't play in
the championship game for the accre like, I didn't know that. No, Look,
it's brilliant from Notre Dame because it allows them to
play in Florida. That's when they played Miami. Usually they
play in Virginia. Right, They like to play on the
Eastern seaboard, so take a list in their schedule. They
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play Miami on the road hard game. Start the season.
They play A and M at home, who they played
and beat on the road last year. Okay, and A
and M is an elite college football team. They played
Purdue at home. That Purdue is not good, but they're
a Big ten team. That's that's power four, power four,
power four. Then they go play Arkansas. Now I know
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Arkansas fell apart, fired their head coach. Okay, and Arkansas
the the mantra of the Hogs is we always almost
we almost always almost win. Okay, but Arkansas was supposed
to be good this year. And you went on the
road to an SEC opponent. Feel free to point out
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for me the Big Ten or the SEC teams that
play the quality of schedule that Notre Dame plays. You're like, well,
these teams weren't good. It doesn't work that way. It
doesn't work. Youn go like, Hey, I got these long
contracts with these teams, and they're not gonna be good
this year. They played Miami, they played A and M.
They played Purdue, they played Arkansas the road. They played
Boise State this year. Hey, what how good is Boise State?
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Last year? Oh? That's right, they were in the College
Football Playoff. Then they played NC State. Okay. NC State's
one of those teams that you've forgotten is in a
major conference. They're in the ACC part of their ACC schedule.
Then they play USC again. Whether USC is great or
just good, it's a yearly thing and it's always a
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great game. Usc what nine games this year? Then they
played Navy who won nine games. They played Boston College
on the road, Pittsburgh who won I think Pittsburgh won
nine games, eight games, and then they played Syracuse who
started out the year like three to one and then
completely fell apart. And Stanford, who stinks now, but when
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the game has been scheduled, first it's for recruiting, and second,
Stanford hadn't all that they've stunk the last four years.
Before that, they were really good. The point is they
don't play any rummies, none zero. Everybody else does everybody else.
So when people talk about schedule.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
That's because they don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You can only do so much. They are assigned I
believe six ACC games a year. They played five five
ACC games a year. Okay, they play now Purdue instead
of Michigan in a Big ten. Okay. They did a
home and home with Arkansas, a home and home of
A and M. That's two SEC teams. They played Navy
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every year, they play sc every year, and they chose
to play Boise State granted at home. Okay, I'm guessing
Boise got paid on that deal. That's how putting a
schedule works. If their by game is Boise State, if
they're paying Boise State a million five to come in
and play, compare that to the bye games of anybody else.
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They played elite schedule. Remember Miami after playing Notre Dame,
they played Withthune Cookman. They had a game where they
could rest dudes and work in their younger dudes. Notre
Dame didn't do that. My problem with strength of schedule,
and look, it's really really hard, really hard to determine
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strength to schedule, really hard. But if you actually go
through it play a really good schedule, really good, you know.
And so while they lost to Miami, Miami lost to
Louisville and to SMU in overtime, which are better losses.
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They both beat Pittsburgh Miami one head to head. Notre
Dame's two losses at Miami by three points first game
of the year and home to A and m who's
freaking really good by a point. So you are in
fact splitting hairs. And again I wouldn't be critical of
Miami's schedule because they played Notre Dame, Bethune, South Florida, Florida,
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Florida State. That's an incredible four games, and they had
to have one game where to get right game play
your young guys, everybody gets rested. Notre Dame didn't have that,
and with the freshman quarterback, they played the toughest games
the first two games of the year. Let's get to
love and hate from the weekend.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
What did you love God, I love you? And what
did you hate?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Need these player hay Is.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Doug Ottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Love love, love, hate,
hate hate. Let's find out what our love boy Dan
Byer loved about the week I.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Would love to continue this discussion about Notre Dame with you.
I don't know if this show wants to do that,
but yeah, we do that. I just I are you
just throwing out the head to head game like.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I'm not, I'm not. I'm not. I'm saying it's really
really close, and I'm saying that I'm simply picking apart
the idea of a schedule. Okay, the gross mischaracterization of
a schedule could because people on the outside truly don't
know how it works. Like, you don't have the ability
to manipulate your schedule nearly as much as people want
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to want you to believe. Ohio State, on the other hand, Okay,
they play a big ten schedule. It's nine games. They
played Texas, who they didn't have to play. That's ten
really tough games. There are other two games they played
Grambling and Ohio. You right, So again, it's all different
ways to get to it. What you can control, what
you can't control. Notre Dame has control over like three
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of their games on a yearly basis. The rest the
sixth the ACC, right or five the ACC You have
Stanford Navy sc right, that's nine, that's their nine game.
That's essentially their nine conference games and the other games
they played. And maybe I don't know how how long
the Purdue contract is right, because they seem to play
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them every year. But the point is that the games
that they could control, everybody thinks they're independent, they're not.
They have games set and then you have to work
around those games and try and manipulate them and give
your dudes a break.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
They do. And but this is the problem, and this
is the problem with college football, is we look at
Texas A and M and say, yeah, look at Texas
A and M, and look at what they did this year.
Look at what Texas A and M did this year. Right, No,
they didn't. And part of the problem with that is
of these conferences being so big that now you're rehashing
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and you're trying to turn over opponents and you're getting
weaker schedules. In Notre Dame's case, they got a season
where the only really strong ACC team that could help
their case was Miami and they lost that game. So
the rest of the conference thinks. But even in Texas
A and M's case, like Vanderbilt played a tougher schedule,
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the game that Texas A and M ended up beating
Notre Dame. Doug, Honestly, that two point conversion could have
been the difference between the Aggies making it into the
postseason or not. And I don't think that that's talked
about enough about Notre Dame. And at least the chances
that they had where they could have beaten Miami, they
could have gotten the stop against Texas A and M
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and if you make a play on that conversion, I
think it's a completely different story. And so I get it.
People took shots at Penn State not being good, and
so Indiana and Ohio State strength of schedule wasn't good
after the James Franklin firing. Are those that win against
Penn State wasn't as strong as a victory. That's sometimes the
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way that the cookie crumbles. And I actually just blame
more of what's going on in college sports in terms
of now we're looking at resumes. It's like the point
between Texas and Vandy two schools that didn't make it,
was that Texas had five opportunities against high caliber competition.
Vandy had two, and part of the reason was because
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of how that SEC schedule ended up, you know, shaking out.
And so this is not going to be anything new,
and it's probably going to lead to expansion because some
of these conference schedules are so awful. That's my love.
I loved extending that conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Cool Jase Tuo.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
I love when karma works. You know, I'm not a
religious person, but I do believe Inara, and I know
Sam's going to get triggered by this because according to him,
anything that you can't physically prove doesn't exist. So you know, superstitions, God,
and I guess Karma all fall under this. You can't
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prove it, so it doesn't exist in your Rube and
or Trump supporter. If you feel that way, I will
say this the I love when karmel works. So the
tweet of the day yesterday happened during the Chiefs Texans game.
The game is ten to ten. A passes caught by
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Rashi Rice and he is absolutely destroyed by a Texan
defender that I'm not sure the name of NFL Memes
at NFL Underscore Memes Rights. Rashi Rice finally under finally
understands what it feels like to get unexpectedly hit at
a high rate of speed and have the man responsible
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leave the scene. This is the public shaming he deserves.
And when I talk about kar Moms, I loved hearing
stories about how OJ Simpson would be stopped on the
golf course, somebody walk up and shake his hand, as
I've always wanted to meet a double murderer. So he
was publicly shamed for many years up until his death.
He died a miserable human being, and that's good. He
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killed two people. Rashi Rice didn't kill anybody, thankfully, but
he thinks he got away with something. And when people
think they get away with things, that is when I
want Karma to kick in times ten. And I will
say this. He dropped a pass later on in the game,
a crucial pass on fourth down, and I want to
say it's because he was hearing footsteps. I want to
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say he was because he had alligator arms from this
hit that he received earlier in the game. Again, all
this is great. I love when good things happen to
good people, and I love when bad things happen to
bad people.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Stug Gottlief show Fox Sports Trade a little Love and Hate.
I was Sam.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I love the Packers went over the Bears. Last year,
the Packers struggled in the NFC North to win divisional
games this year they're four and oh a great battle
between the Bears and the Packers. It just looks, you know,
when it looked like the Packers were kind of pulling away,
the Bears made it a game, tied it up, and
it was a battle until the last you know, thirty
seconds or so. So as a Packer fan, love to
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see this very competitive division. Maybe not as stacked as
like the NFC West, but you have three teams with
winning records. It's tough. This will only make the Packers better.
Love that they pulled this out in the waning seconds.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Hmm, Okay, I'll get to get to my love. I
love the Big Ten Championship game. I did. I love
the Big Ten Championship game. I felt like both teams
played like they cared. And the fact that don't give
me that buyers buyers doing the total.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
They didn't. It was Indiana Super Bowl. I mean, it's
something the game, but they didn't care.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Hold on if a whiest they didn't care when they
have gone for a touchdown there instead of kicked the
field goal at the end of the game. Yeah, maybe
just get out of here, try to win.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah maybe?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Okay, Uh But the bigger part of that game that
I really liked was the fact that nothing is ever
a sure bet with college kickers, right, Like it's a cliche,
but it is absolutely cliche because it's been proven true overtime.
You like college kickers. Don't get me wrong, NFL kickers
will miss them too, But that one't seem because the
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same kicker byer, wasn't he making bank shots in warm
ups where he's kicking it yeah, Like he's so good,
so good that he can literally I'm gonna hit it
off the left, up right, and then knock it in
in warm ups like he's good, and then the pressure
of winning a Big ten champ or sending it to
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overtime Big Ten championship, and then he lines up and
just pulls it wide left, and it's just one of those.
At some point you understand why they're in college not
in the pros. It doesn't mean the pros don't miss them,
but they don't miss those ones. They just don't. I mean,
I mean unless you're the Minnesota Vikings against the Seahawks
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and the playoffs outdoors. That was like a decade ago,
maybe a little bit more, But for the most part,
they don't miss those, and college kickers live down sometimes
those reputations you do, and you do still even though
they're getting paid now, you still feel bad for the
kid like man, he's still a kid like well getting paid.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, he missed two field goes last year against Michigan,
And I think this is the issue, Like you want
to talk about an Achilles heel, it's what happens if
Ohio State has to go down and make a kick
and in that situation, I actually think that's what Ryan
Day wanted to see. All right, let's see what we've
got here, and he completely shanked it. It's nothing. I'm
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not trying to let anybody off of the hook. It's
a weird angle at that that point, but you got
to make that kick, like there is no doubt about that.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Can we talk about Brenana Mendoza for a one second.
He won the night with the SoundBite. I do have
a thought about this. So he's obviously more Kirk Cousins
than like Joe Montana. Like Joe Montana was a cool guy.
He was the guy in high school that all the
guys wanted to be, all the women wanted to be with.
Right the Tom Brady obviously Fernando Mendoza's and the Kirk
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cousins of Nerdery. He's a complete goober and he won
the night in the post game UH interview by doing
this right.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Oh, congratulations Indiana the Big ten champs.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
How does that sound?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
It sounds so beautiful.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
I want to give all the glory to God. We're
never supposed to be in the decision, but by glory God,
the great coach is great teams ever around us, we
were able to.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Pull this off. Whoever thought who should be here?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Banana?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Who is or flipping champs?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
I will say this. The last person that was is
this exuberant and guberish forever lost his place in the
pre presidential candidacy.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
We're going to California and Texas and New York, and.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
We're going to South Dakota and Oregon.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And Washington and Michigan, and then we're going to Washington,
d C.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
To take back in the White House.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I'll tell you what Kurt Signetti saying on the podium
that his biggest goal is to now to get this
team down from this high in the next three and
a half weeks. That is a true statement. That is
a one hundred percent true statement they get. Yeah, you
you have to because I'm telling you in all of
those sound bites and everything that we've heard, like that
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was the deal. Last year they lost at Ohio State.
It was a closer game than had actually the score
indicated Indiana had a couple of miscues on special teams
that cost them. But like for Indiana to show that
they're still unbeaten, that to your point that they're number
one and tobid o higher state in the Big Ten
Championship game is their ultimate goal now to try to
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reset and try to win a national championship. That will
not be easy, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Plus I mean either Bama or Ou in the Rose Bowl. Yeah,
and the difference here is now, look, these are new
Bama guys, these are new Ou guys, and Indiana has
They went and won the Big Ten Championship. They won
and won in Austin, and they spent a lot of money, Like,
let's not shut themselves. They probably have the second or
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third biggest budget of anybody playing. Like Mendoza was at
Col last year, he was good at Col. Now he's
on a loaded team. But Bama or Ou playing in
the Rose Bowl even though it's a weird Rose Bowl
usually Big ten. It feels like every game in the
SEC is like that. Again, I don't know coming off,
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and whoever they play is going to come off a
win as well, so they'll have their commonfidence coming in
off a win. They got a week, they got two
weeks off before they play. I'm with you, it's really
really hard to get him back, get him back right.
Good thing is you got a lot of time. Bad
thing is sometimes time is not actually your inter favor.
Did you guys?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Hear Kurt Signetti though, where he was like, and I
got my waist. He's like to humble and get the
guys hungry and humble again. He's like, we got to
get their head right. We gotta get him down from
this cloud. And I have my ways, and I'm just
wondering what those ways are. Like, we're talking what five
am kinda I don't know, drills and conditioning and.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Just get that joy out of you.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
We gotta get hungry again.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
I just I have my waists. It's caught that little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Anyway, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.
We'll start with the resident hater Jason Stewart.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
I hate the San Francisco Giants, and I hate any
player that gets into the Hall of Fame from the
Giants that did it on farcical numbers. It was it
was told to us that the something called the National
Baseball Hall of Fame contemporary era voters voted Jeff Can
into the Hall of Fame. Now, he was not voted
in the traditional way by the people that matter, the
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sports writers and the people that decide these things, So
he got in through the back door by this field
called contemporary era voters. If you take out the numbers
that he had with the Giants, he's not a Hall
of Famer, even if you include the numbers with the
Giants and the context that he batted behind a guy
that had a five hundred op on base percentage for
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his time there with the Giants because he was very
much on roids. I think that those things are the
underreported people in the Hall of Fame discussion, not the
actual people that were caught doing steroids or we know
very much that they did steroids, But how about the
players that were helped around them that their numbers are
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inflated because of them. Jeff Kent was the benefactor of
the worst cheater in the history of the game. He
should not be rewarded with the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Love it? Uh damn byer.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, just on the heels of that too as well.
Like everybody wants Dale Murphy in right, like, just put
him in. Guess what the Hall of Fame is for
the fans as well. It's not like he's unworthy. He
has a resume of it to back it up of
being in the Hall of Fame. Yes, I'll say this.
I hate the first round of the college football Playoff.
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I hate it. Oklahoma, great, they beat Alabama. Now they
gotta beat him again the first round. Yeah, I don't
like that. Yeah, it stinks. Hey, guess what we get
to see two Lane and Ole Miss again. Just the
reason that we were so excited for a college football
playoff in the first place, right, seeing all these schools
going to different parts and hosting games. Nobody ever said
I want to see too Lane and Ole Miss something else.
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No one ever said I want to see James Madison
at Oregon. Like, this first round of the playoff is
awful and it's you. Yeah, it's stinks. Figure out a
better way to do it, but because there's going to
be no momentum until New Year's Eve in January first,
for this playoff, the NFL is going to slaughter college
football on that opening weekend. That's what I hated.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Revived my memory here, Dan Tulane and Ole Miss played
already this earlier this year. Yes, oh my, yeah, that's
Rematches like that are not it's hard to get excited for. Listen,
nobody really cares about this game because it's a bowl
game and not in the playoff. But Iowa's draw for
the reliah Quest Bowl on December thirty first, at nine
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am Pacific time, twelve Eastern. They're taking on a team
that was snubbed, not snub but on the periphery of
the playoff in Vanderbilt. Not thrilled about this matchup, Diego
Pavia is playing. This is a really really good ten
and two Vanderbilt team that put up points and can't
say that I'm super thrilled about the Relia Quest Bowl
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at Raymond James Stadium and IOWA taking on a Vanderbilt
team that I guess has a fire under their but
I would assume maybe not, Maybe it's the other on
the opposite.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Who knows, who knows, but they're a really good team.
Dan there, did you guys see the video of Diego
Pavia taking his offensive lineman to the UFC fight in
Vegas every weekend? I saw, I saw a caption I
think I sent to you guys if Axe Body Spray.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Was a person.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's so good.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Listen, man, I'm a little worried that Axe Body Spray
personified is gonna run up and down on IOWA. So
see he was laughing then, but that was that was funny.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna give you my hate. I hate all
these idiots are like cut comb sheets. Got it in
for said school because he worked for ESPN and he's
an sec walk. I'm also gonna point out that we
have people who work for us on Fox Sports Trading
and Fox Sports that are like, oh, the ESPN guys
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are anti Notre Dame. That's what they are because Notre
Dame is on a different network.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Some of Notre Dame's games are on ESPN. And I
don't want to tell you this, but Notre Dame rates
way better than a lot of college football programs. They
would love to have Notre Dame in the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You sound like one of those basement dwelling U what
was called conspiracy theorists who don't believe anything is real. Hey,
don't believe anything is real? Do people bring in their
own inherent biases about their conference versus others? Of course,
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that's why when you have a committee, you gotta spread
out in terms of what conferences, what schools are represented.
But this idea that people on TV like a kirk okay,
now that when you're covering a game, most guys I
didn't do this, but most guys become like shills. It'll
happen in March. We know this, Dan, when you watch
the NCAA tournament, like everybody shills for the league, like
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all the Big twelve, second twenty five teams in Like, dude,
I get that the Big twelve wants you to do
their games, but you can't be that disingenuous. But again,
just the idea that networks, like a network like ESPN
doesn't want Notre Dame in is quite frankly, the stupidest
thing I've ever heard in my life. Everybody wants Notre
Dame on TV because people watch Notre Dame on TV,
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maybe not the same as they used to, but go
and look over the last ten years the highest rated
games in college football. Alabama's like one, Texas right there,
and then Notre Dame's right there in third along with
Ohio State, Like those are the big ones. So this
idea that networks have it out for your school is
just dumb. It's just dumb. It doesn't work that way,
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or it's never worked that way. What do I know.
I just did twenty years of television at three different
networks and never once was like, hey, guys, we got
to talk about the school because we have their conference
on our network more than anybody else. That's love an aight.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
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Speaker 2 (26:09):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. It is
always something lot to get to still that we haven't
because we've talked so much, so much about college football.
Let's so we talked some cheaps. I see why is
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what it? It does? Feel like it's over and when
your last interception is off of Travis Kelce's hand, granted
the ball was behind him, anyway. But it hits off
the superstar tight end who's been a focal point of
all of these runs. And your superstar quarterback throws three
interceptions and you just you don't have the horses. You
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don't look good. They even lost out of the buy,
which Andy read. It feels like, never does stat Let's
tell you he has more with the Chiefs than he
did with the Eagles. It does feel like this version
of the Chiefs is over. Here's Andy Reid talking about
those tough drops and his fourth down decisions.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
Yeah, listen, these are great players, so I mean, we
got to make sure we catch the ball. They know that,
and they're trying a flack effort there. You know, all
went through their hands and it happens, you know, but
those guys are great players. I put the guys offensively
in a tough position with the fourth downs. I'm trying
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to stay aggressive with it. I take full responsibility for that.
And there are opportunities that you've got to take advantage of.
You're playing a good football team in the Texans, and
you've got to make sure when you have opportunities to
make plays, you make plays. And we were short just
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
There, s Doug Gottlieb Show, You're on Fox Sports Radio. No,
I don't feel bad for the Chiefs. I don't I
love again. As a coach, I can learn from many
to read. Hey man, it's not like they're not trying.
They're great players, but between you know, the offensive line issues,
the lack of wide receiver talent, the aging of Travis Kelcey,
(28:15):
some of the injuries, the defense, which I think it
was kind of built around just being okay, but I
mean literally, they took what most people would deem as
the most fun, innovative, explosive offense we'd ever seen, and
now it's really really really limited, really limited. This is
not unlike most runs. They all kind of come to
(28:38):
an end. It's why the Patriots thing was so unique.
But remember the Patriots went a decade without winning a
Super Bowl. Of course, one of those years without the
winning a Super Bowl, they got to a super Bowl
at eighteen and oh right, so it's not like they
were bad all of those years. And then Tom Brady
tore his knee the next year. But usually this is
(28:59):
the way it works. You know, Oh, you you have
to get rid of a guy who wants more money,
Tyreek Hill. You have age of one of your stars,
Travis Kelce, you have some injuries running back, offensive line,
(29:20):
and even your star isn't as shining as bright because
he's surrounded by the same team, and people kind of
figure out, go ahead, pick out any run you want, right,
Like if you watch the last Dance, remember Horace Grant
left the Bulls to go to the Orlando Magic. Now,
(29:42):
part of it was and he wasn't gonna get paid,
but this is after I believe it was after Jordan
had retired that he went, and he left and played
in new Orlando Magic. Right, Steve Kerr was not the
point guard. Originally that was John Paxson. Then you know
bj Armstrong and Steve Kerr, and so in any of
these there's just there said you have to move on
(30:02):
at some point and get the next guy. And what's
probably most amazing about the Patriots, I continue to contend,
was their ability to keep it going, to be consistent
and the fact that Tom Brady didn't take top dollar.
And I know that Mahomes is not the absolute peak,
but he took a ton of money, which everybody said
was a team friendly deal. But they just don't have
(30:23):
the resources to go out and get anybody else. You know,
if you have a super highly paid defensive player and
a super high played offensive player, you're like, man, we're
getting thin on other places. And then when you're good
and as good as they've been this long, you're not
gonna draft high. So the further down the first round
you pick, the more risky the pick is, the lot lower.
(30:45):
The hit rate is. Same thing in the second, same
innion the third, same thing in the fourth, same thing
as the fifth. Really are do I feel bad?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Because they went from being a team that couldn't win
in the playoffs, lost at home in the playoffs, to
a team that you couldn't be in the playoffs. And
I still think that if some way they got in
the playoffs, I don't want to play the Chiefs because
they've been there so many times they just figure it out.
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dot com. This is the Doug gottlib Show. You're listening
to Fox Sports Radio. Well, let's get to Dan Byer
with the Press.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
The Press.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Pete Bavaqua was the athletic director for Notre Dame and
earlier today he was on The Dan Patrick Show and
said this about the ACC.
Speaker 9 (32:15):
I have tremendous respect for Miami, you know, great team,
great school, but we were mystified by the actions of
the Conference to attack you know, their biggest really business
partner in football and a member of their conference in
twenty four of our other sports. I wouldn't be honest
with you if I didn't say that they have certainly
done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference and
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Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Some harsh words with ACC Commissioner Jim Phillips responding in
a statement today, and while he says that the Conference
has tremendous respect and appreciation for Notre Dame, he said quote,
when it comes to football, we have a responsibility to
support and advocate for all seventeen of our football playing
member institutions, and I stand behind our conference efforts to
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do just that. Leading up to the College Football Playoff
Committee selections on Sunday, and no time was it suggested
by the ACC that Notre Dame was not a worthy
candidate for inclusion in the field end quote.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Sounds like Jim Phillips is trying to not back off,
but make sure he smooths it over. I'm just telling
you this right now. Notre Dame has the hand in
this relationship. Don't think otherwise. Notre Dame has hand in
this relationship. The ACC is grasping, grasping football wise until
Florida State, Virginia Tech, and Miami are all collectively, you know,
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top ten teams that league going to struggle, and they
need Notre Dame to play them and be a part
of it. Gonna be interesting.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Colts quarterback Daniel Jones is going to miss the rest
of the season with a torn achilles suffered in their
loss to the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Absolutely bummed. And the rash of Achilles injuries continues, right,
just continues. I mean, you know, your boy Jannis's is
out right now with the cap strain, and everyone everyone's like, don't, don't,
don't come back, don't come back. I cannot believe how
many achiox injuries.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Have been I was driving to work and I heard
that Jones was out and I just assumed it was
the leg that he had the fracture in it. Yeah,
me too, Yeah it was not.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Now, Now, what happens sometimes when you do have an
injury is you have an imbalance and you compensate for
it and it can cause a different injury, which maybe
is what happened here. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Bronze quarterback shouldor Sanders will be the team starter for
the rest of the season. According to the head coach,
Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I've told the people this before though I thought he
played pretty well. The touchdown pass the end zone, did
anybody realize that they were had a wide open guy
in the middle of the football field. Threw it to
the wrong guy anyway, But Shaduur can't be a backup,
at least in Cleveland. There's too much noise, he's too popular.
(34:57):
So that's really what Stefansy's got to figure out. Is
he gonna be my starter? Am I gonna roll with him?
Or we're gonna draft somebody else and then we're gonna
trade him. That's the reality there, because you can't have
Shador as your backup. His dad's showing up having all
this stuff, and then you draft a guy number one
and number two or number three overall and then you're like, no, no,
he's our guy. Like yeah, you got Schador there. It
(35:18):
doesn't work. Dylan Gabriel career backup, Perfect backup. Shador Sanders
got to be a starter.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Terry Rozier pled not guilty to federal charges of wire
fraud and money lawn during today and has been released
on three million dollars bond. Rosier accused of helping his
friends win bets on his performance at NBA Games in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Uh that wait, tell me that story one more time.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
So Terry Rosier, remember was busted as part of the
federal He just he pled not guilty to today was
released on three million dollars bond.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, he's also there's also a viral story about him
from a young woman, but you can go online to
check that one out. Whatever.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
The twenty twenty eight Open Championship is moving day now.
This is interesting to me as a golf fan because
of the Summer Olympics in twenty twenty eight in Los Angeles,
there was a conflict with the golf competitions, and not
only the Men's Open Championship, the Women's Open, Seniors Open
as well. Those are all going to be played in August.
The Open Championship will take place the first week of August.
(36:18):
When the PGA ended up moving their schedule doug and
moving to May from August, one of the reasons was
they felt that every four years there was going to
be a conflict because of golf being in the summer Games. Well,
with the LA Games being from mid July to the
end of July, it actually conflicted with the Open Championship.
So now the Open Championship is going to be a
few years later in twenty twenty eight. PGA wouldn't have
(36:42):
been affected at all if the schedule would have stayed
the same.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I know stories that twenty twenty eight, but it's also
an Olympic year too, there's there's some adjustment there with
the Olympic year in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Well, yeah, that's the whole reason for it. I just said, yeah,
that's why they had to change it. So and that's
the press they.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Get out there and press that was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, it's always one of those things at the Olympics
where you're like, how do they they get You've got
to plan ahead. And the changing of schedules in golf,
it's been really interesting. Some point, maybe podcast we got
to get into how you think the change of the
major schedules, how it's affected the sport as a whole.
In the meantime, we'll continue to react to the College
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I got a lot of good stuff on the a
(01:05):
rish Let me do this. Okay, we'll get to love
and hate in one second. I'm here's what I'm gonna do. Okay,
I'm going to tell you really quickly why there's a
narrative out there. And I heard Colin Cowherd. I heard
Colin Cowherd talk about Notre Dame and how all they
(01:26):
had to do was beat A and M and Florida. Right, Remember,
freshman starting quarterback. First two games, lose to Miami in
a great game, lose to A and M and some
crazy crazy stuff at home by one point. They lost
by four points two games, first two games of the season.
And there's a lot of people like, hey, their schedule
wasn't good enough. Bull you're wrong. Okay, you're wrong. Let
(01:50):
me tell you what their schedule is. SEC team on
the road, Big ten team at home. Excuse me, let's
go in order. Okay, Miami, who's an ACC team? Okay,
Remember they play I leave six ACC games a year.
So this whole idea that they need to join a conference.
They have a hybrid agreement with the ACC. They're in
(02:10):
it for all the other sports and basically in it
except you don't count it and they can't play in
the championship game for the accre like, I didn't know that. No, Look,
it's brilliant from Notre Dame because it allows them to
play in Florida. That's when they played Miami. Usually they
play in Virginia. Right, They like to play on the
Eastern seaboard, so take a list in their schedule. They
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play Miami on the road hard game. Start the season.
They play A and M at home, who they played
and beat on the road last year. Okay, and A
and M is an elite college football team. They played
Purdue at home. That Purdue is not good, but they're
a Big ten team. That's that's power four, power four,
power four. Then they go play Arkansas. Now I know
(02:56):
Arkansas fell apart, fired their head coach. Okay, and Arkansas
the the mantra of the Hogs is we always almost
we almost always almost win. Okay, but Arkansas was supposed
to be good this year. And you went on the
road to an SEC opponent. Feel free to point out
(03:17):
for me the Big Ten or the SEC teams that
play the quality of schedule that Notre Dame plays. You're like, well,
these teams weren't good. It doesn't work that way. It
doesn't work. Youn go like, Hey, I got these long
contracts with these teams, and they're not gonna be good
this year. They played Miami, they played A and M.
They played Purdue, they played Arkansas the road. They played
Boise State this year. Hey, what how good is Boise State?
(03:40):
Last year? Oh? That's right, they were in the College
Football Playoff. Then they played NC State. Okay. NC State's
one of those teams that you've forgotten is in a
major conference. They're in the ACC part of their ACC schedule.
Then they play USC again. Whether USC is great or
just good, it's a yearly thing and it's always a
(04:01):
great game. Usc what nine games this year? Then they
played Navy who won nine games. They played Boston College
on the road, Pittsburgh who won I think Pittsburgh won
nine games, eight games, and then they played Syracuse who
started out the year like three to one and then
completely fell apart. And Stanford, who stinks now, but when
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the game has been scheduled, first it's for recruiting, and second,
Stanford hadn't all that they've stunk the last four years.
Before that, they were really good. The point is they
don't play any rummies, none zero. Everybody else does everybody else.
So when people talk about schedule.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
That's because they don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You can only do so much. They are assigned I
believe six ACC games a year. They played five five
ACC games a year. Okay, they play now Purdue instead
of Michigan in a Big ten. Okay. They did a
home and home with Arkansas, a home and home of
A and M. That's two SEC teams. They played Navy
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every year, they play sc every year, and they chose
to play Boise State granted at home. Okay, I'm guessing
Boise got paid on that deal. That's how putting a
schedule works. If their by game is Boise State, if
they're paying Boise State a million five to come in
and play, compare that to the bye games of anybody else.
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They played elite schedule. Remember Miami after playing Notre Dame,
they played Withthune Cookman. They had a game where they
could rest dudes and work in their younger dudes. Notre
Dame didn't do that. My problem with strength of schedule,
and look, it's really really hard, really hard to determine
(05:59):
strength to schedule, really hard. But if you actually go
through it play a really good schedule, really good, you know.
And so while they lost to Miami, Miami lost to
Louisville and to SMU in overtime, which are better losses.
(06:20):
They both beat Pittsburgh Miami one head to head. Notre
Dame's two losses at Miami by three points first game
of the year and home to A and m who's
freaking really good by a point. So you are in
fact splitting hairs. And again I wouldn't be critical of
Miami's schedule because they played Notre Dame, Bethune, South Florida, Florida,
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Florida State. That's an incredible four games, and they had
to have one game where to get right game play
your young guys, everybody gets rested. Notre Dame didn't have that,
and with the freshman quarterback, they played the toughest games
the first two games of the year. Let's get to
love and hate from the weekend.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
What did you love God, I love you? And what
did you hate?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Need these player hay Is.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Doug Ottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Love love, love, hate,
hate hate. Let's find out what our love boy Dan
Byer loved about the week I.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Would love to continue this discussion about Notre Dame with you.
I don't know if this show wants to do that,
but yeah, we do that. I just I are you
just throwing out the head to head game like.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I'm not, I'm not. I'm not. I'm saying it's really
really close, and I'm saying that I'm simply picking apart
the idea of a schedule. Okay, the gross mischaracterization of
a schedule could because people on the outside truly don't
know how it works. Like, you don't have the ability
to manipulate your schedule nearly as much as people want
(07:51):
to want you to believe. Ohio State, on the other hand, Okay,
they play a big ten schedule. It's nine games. They
played Texas, who they didn't have to play. That's ten
really tough games. There are other two games they played
Grambling and Ohio. You right, So again, it's all different
ways to get to it. What you can control, what
you can't control. Notre Dame has control over like three
(08:13):
of their games on a yearly basis. The rest the
sixth the ACC, right or five the ACC You have
Stanford Navy sc right, that's nine, that's their nine game.
That's essentially their nine conference games and the other games
they played. And maybe I don't know how how long
the Purdue contract is right, because they seem to play
(08:33):
them every year. But the point is that the games
that they could control, everybody thinks they're independent, they're not.
They have games set and then you have to work
around those games and try and manipulate them and give
your dudes a break.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
They do. And but this is the problem, and this
is the problem with college football, is we look at
Texas A and M and say, yeah, look at Texas
A and M, and look at what they did this year.
Look at what Texas A and M did this year. Right, No,
they didn't. And part of the problem with that is
of these conferences being so big that now you're rehashing
(09:12):
and you're trying to turn over opponents and you're getting
weaker schedules. In Notre Dame's case, they got a season
where the only really strong ACC team that could help
their case was Miami and they lost that game. So
the rest of the conference thinks. But even in Texas
A and M's case, like Vanderbilt played a tougher schedule,
(09:32):
the game that Texas A and M ended up beating
Notre Dame. Doug, Honestly, that two point conversion could have
been the difference between the Aggies making it into the
postseason or not. And I don't think that that's talked
about enough about Notre Dame. And at least the chances
that they had where they could have beaten Miami, they
could have gotten the stop against Texas A and M
(09:52):
and if you make a play on that conversion, I
think it's a completely different story. And so I get it.
People took shots at Penn State not being good, and
so Indiana and Ohio State strength of schedule wasn't good
after the James Franklin firing. Are those that win against
Penn State wasn't as strong as a victory. That's sometimes the
(10:13):
way that the cookie crumbles. And I actually just blame
more of what's going on in college sports in terms
of now we're looking at resumes. It's like the point
between Texas and Vandy two schools that didn't make it,
was that Texas had five opportunities against high caliber competition.
Vandy had two, and part of the reason was because
(10:34):
of how that SEC schedule ended up, you know, shaking out.
And so this is not going to be anything new,
and it's probably going to lead to expansion because some
of these conference schedules are so awful. That's my love.
I loved extending that conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Cool Jase Tuo.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
I love when karma works. You know, I'm not a
religious person, but I do believe Inara, and I know
Sam's going to get triggered by this because according to him,
anything that you can't physically prove doesn't exist. So you know, superstitions, God,
and I guess Karma all fall under this. You can't
(11:13):
prove it, so it doesn't exist in your Rube and
or Trump supporter. If you feel that way, I will
say this the I love when karmel works. So the
tweet of the day yesterday happened during the Chiefs Texans game.
The game is ten to ten. A passes caught by
(11:35):
Rashi Rice and he is absolutely destroyed by a Texan
defender that I'm not sure the name of NFL Memes
at NFL Underscore Memes Rights. Rashi Rice finally under finally
understands what it feels like to get unexpectedly hit at
a high rate of speed and have the man responsible
(11:58):
leave the scene. This is the public shaming he deserves.
And when I talk about kar Moms, I loved hearing
stories about how OJ Simpson would be stopped on the
golf course, somebody walk up and shake his hand, as
I've always wanted to meet a double murderer. So he
was publicly shamed for many years up until his death.
He died a miserable human being, and that's good. He
(12:21):
killed two people. Rashi Rice didn't kill anybody, thankfully, but
he thinks he got away with something. And when people
think they get away with things, that is when I
want Karma to kick in times ten. And I will
say this. He dropped a pass later on in the game,
a crucial pass on fourth down, and I want to
say it's because he was hearing footsteps. I want to
(12:42):
say he was because he had alligator arms from this
hit that he received earlier in the game. Again, all
this is great. I love when good things happen to
good people, and I love when bad things happen to
bad people.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Stug Gottlief show Fox Sports Trade a little Love and Hate.
I was Sam.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I love the Packers went over the Bears. Last year,
the Packers struggled in the NFC North to win divisional
games this year they're four and oh a great battle
between the Bears and the Packers. It just looks, you know,
when it looked like the Packers were kind of pulling away,
the Bears made it a game, tied it up, and
it was a battle until the last you know, thirty
seconds or so. So as a Packer fan, love to
(13:22):
see this very competitive division. Maybe not as stacked as
like the NFC West, but you have three teams with
winning records. It's tough. This will only make the Packers better.
Love that they pulled this out in the waning seconds.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Hmm, Okay, I'll get to get to my love. I
love the Big Ten Championship game. I did. I love
the Big Ten Championship game. I felt like both teams
played like they cared. And the fact that don't give
me that buyers buyers doing the total.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
They didn't. It was Indiana Super Bowl. I mean, it's
something the game, but they didn't care.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Hold on if a whiest they didn't care when they
have gone for a touchdown there instead of kicked the
field goal at the end of the game. Yeah, maybe
just get out of here, try to win.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah maybe?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Okay, Uh But the bigger part of that game that
I really liked was the fact that nothing is ever
a sure bet with college kickers, right, Like it's a cliche,
but it is absolutely cliche because it's been proven true overtime.
You like college kickers. Don't get me wrong, NFL kickers
will miss them too, But that one't seem because the
(14:37):
same kicker byer, wasn't he making bank shots in warm
ups where he's kicking it yeah, Like he's so good,
so good that he can literally I'm gonna hit it
off the left, up right, and then knock it in
in warm ups like he's good, and then the pressure
of winning a Big ten champ or sending it to
(14:58):
overtime Big Ten championship, and then he lines up and
just pulls it wide left, and it's just one of those.
At some point you understand why they're in college not
in the pros. It doesn't mean the pros don't miss them,
but they don't miss those ones. They just don't. I mean,
I mean unless you're the Minnesota Vikings against the Seahawks
(15:18):
and the playoffs outdoors. That was like a decade ago,
maybe a little bit more, But for the most part,
they don't miss those, and college kickers live down sometimes
those reputations you do, and you do still even though
they're getting paid now, you still feel bad for the
kid like man, he's still a kid like well getting paid.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, he missed two field goes last year against Michigan,
And I think this is the issue, Like you want
to talk about an Achilles heel, it's what happens if
Ohio State has to go down and make a kick
and in that situation, I actually think that's what Ryan
Day wanted to see. All right, let's see what we've
got here, and he completely shanked it. It's nothing. I'm
(15:56):
not trying to let anybody off of the hook. It's
a weird angle at that that point, but you got
to make that kick, like there is no doubt about that.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Can we talk about Brenana Mendoza for a one second.
He won the night with the SoundBite. I do have
a thought about this. So he's obviously more Kirk Cousins
than like Joe Montana. Like Joe Montana was a cool guy.
He was the guy in high school that all the
guys wanted to be, all the women wanted to be with.
Right the Tom Brady obviously Fernando Mendoza's and the Kirk
(16:27):
cousins of Nerdery. He's a complete goober and he won
the night in the post game UH interview by doing
this right.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Oh, congratulations Indiana the Big ten champs.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
How does that sound?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
It sounds so beautiful.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
I want to give all the glory to God. We're
never supposed to be in the decision, but by glory God,
the great coach is great teams ever around us, we
were able to.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Pull this off. Whoever thought who should be here?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Banana?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Who is or flipping champs?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
I will say this. The last person that was is
this exuberant and guberish forever lost his place in the
pre presidential candidacy.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
We're going to California and Texas and New York, and.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
We're going to South Dakota and Oregon.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And Washington and Michigan, and then we're going to Washington,
d C.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
To take back in the White House.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I'll tell you what Kurt Signetti saying on the podium
that his biggest goal is to now to get this
team down from this high in the next three and
a half weeks. That is a true statement. That is
a one hundred percent true statement they get. Yeah, you
you have to because I'm telling you in all of
those sound bites and everything that we've heard, like that
(17:45):
was the deal. Last year they lost at Ohio State.
It was a closer game than had actually the score
indicated Indiana had a couple of miscues on special teams
that cost them. But like for Indiana to show that
they're still unbeaten, that to your point that they're number
one and tobid o higher state in the Big Ten
Championship game is their ultimate goal now to try to
(18:06):
reset and try to win a national championship. That will
not be easy, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Plus I mean either Bama or Ou in the Rose Bowl. Yeah,
and the difference here is now, look, these are new
Bama guys, these are new Ou guys, and Indiana has
They went and won the Big Ten Championship. They won
and won in Austin, and they spent a lot of money, Like,
let's not shut themselves. They probably have the second or
(18:34):
third biggest budget of anybody playing. Like Mendoza was at
Col last year, he was good at Col. Now he's
on a loaded team. But Bama or Ou playing in
the Rose Bowl even though it's a weird Rose Bowl
usually Big ten. It feels like every game in the
SEC is like that. Again, I don't know coming off,
(18:55):
and whoever they play is going to come off a
win as well, so they'll have their commonfidence coming in
off a win. They got a week, they got two
weeks off before they play. I'm with you, it's really
really hard to get him back, get him back right.
Good thing is you got a lot of time. Bad
thing is sometimes time is not actually your inter favor.
Did you guys?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Hear Kurt Signetti though, where he was like, and I
got my waist. He's like to humble and get the
guys hungry and humble again. He's like, we got to
get their head right. We gotta get him down from
this cloud. And I have my ways, and I'm just
wondering what those ways are. Like, we're talking what five
am kinda I don't know, drills and conditioning and.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Just get that joy out of you.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
We gotta get hungry again.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
I just I have my waists. It's caught that little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Anyway, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.
We'll start with the resident hater Jason Stewart.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
I hate the San Francisco Giants, and I hate any
player that gets into the Hall of Fame from the
Giants that did it on farcical numbers. It was it
was told to us that the something called the National
Baseball Hall of Fame contemporary era voters voted Jeff Can
into the Hall of Fame. Now, he was not voted
in the traditional way by the people that matter, the
(20:05):
sports writers and the people that decide these things, So
he got in through the back door by this field
called contemporary era voters. If you take out the numbers
that he had with the Giants, he's not a Hall
of Famer, even if you include the numbers with the
Giants and the context that he batted behind a guy
that had a five hundred op on base percentage for
(20:29):
his time there with the Giants because he was very
much on roids. I think that those things are the
underreported people in the Hall of Fame discussion, not the
actual people that were caught doing steroids or we know
very much that they did steroids, But how about the
players that were helped around them that their numbers are
(20:50):
inflated because of them. Jeff Kent was the benefactor of
the worst cheater in the history of the game. He
should not be rewarded with the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Love it? Uh damn byer.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, just on the heels of that too as well.
Like everybody wants Dale Murphy in right, like, just put
him in. Guess what the Hall of Fame is for
the fans as well. It's not like he's unworthy. He
has a resume of it to back it up of
being in the Hall of Fame. Yes, I'll say this.
I hate the first round of the college football Playoff.
(21:23):
I hate it. Oklahoma, great, they beat Alabama. Now they
gotta beat him again the first round. Yeah, I don't
like that. Yeah, it stinks. Hey, guess what we get
to see two Lane and Ole Miss again. Just the
reason that we were so excited for a college football
playoff in the first place, right, seeing all these schools
going to different parts and hosting games. Nobody ever said
I want to see too Lane and Ole Miss something else.
(21:45):
No one ever said I want to see James Madison
at Oregon. Like, this first round of the playoff is
awful and it's you. Yeah, it's stinks. Figure out a
better way to do it, but because there's going to
be no momentum until New Year's Eve in January first,
for this playoff, the NFL is going to slaughter college
football on that opening weekend. That's what I hated.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Revived my memory here, Dan Tulane and Ole Miss played
already this earlier this year. Yes, oh my, yeah, that's
Rematches like that are not it's hard to get excited for. Listen,
nobody really cares about this game because it's a bowl
game and not in the playoff. But Iowa's draw for
the reliah Quest Bowl on December thirty first, at nine
(22:32):
am Pacific time, twelve Eastern. They're taking on a team
that was snubbed, not snub but on the periphery of
the playoff in Vanderbilt. Not thrilled about this matchup, Diego
Pavia is playing. This is a really really good ten
and two Vanderbilt team that put up points and can't
say that I'm super thrilled about the Relia Quest Bowl
(22:54):
at Raymond James Stadium and IOWA taking on a Vanderbilt
team that I guess has a fire under their but
I would assume maybe not, Maybe it's the other on
the opposite.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Who knows, who knows, but they're a really good team.
Dan there, did you guys see the video of Diego
Pavia taking his offensive lineman to the UFC fight in
Vegas every weekend? I saw, I saw a caption I
think I sent to you guys if Axe Body Spray.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Was a person.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's so good.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Listen, man, I'm a little worried that Axe Body Spray
personified is gonna run up and down on IOWA. So
see he was laughing then, but that was that was funny.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna give you my hate. I hate all
these idiots are like cut comb sheets. Got it in
for said school because he worked for ESPN and he's
an sec walk. I'm also gonna point out that we
have people who work for us on Fox Sports Trading
and Fox Sports that are like, oh, the ESPN guys
(23:52):
are anti Notre Dame. That's what they are because Notre
Dame is on a different network.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Some of Notre Dame's games are on ESPN. And I
don't want to tell you this, but Notre Dame rates
way better than a lot of college football programs. They
would love to have Notre Dame in the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You sound like one of those basement dwelling U what
was called conspiracy theorists who don't believe anything is real. Hey,
don't believe anything is real? Do people bring in their
own inherent biases about their conference versus others? Of course,
(24:38):
that's why when you have a committee, you gotta spread
out in terms of what conferences, what schools are represented.
But this idea that people on TV like a kirk okay,
now that when you're covering a game, most guys I
didn't do this, but most guys become like shills. It'll
happen in March. We know this, Dan, when you watch
the NCAA tournament, like everybody shills for the league, like
(25:00):
all the Big twelve, second twenty five teams in Like, dude,
I get that the Big twelve wants you to do
their games, but you can't be that disingenuous. But again,
just the idea that networks, like a network like ESPN
doesn't want Notre Dame in is quite frankly, the stupidest
thing I've ever heard in my life. Everybody wants Notre
Dame on TV because people watch Notre Dame on TV,
(25:22):
maybe not the same as they used to, but go
and look over the last ten years the highest rated
games in college football. Alabama's like one, Texas right there,
and then Notre Dame's right there in third along with
Ohio State, Like those are the big ones. So this
idea that networks have it out for your school is
just dumb. It's just dumb. It doesn't work that way,
(25:45):
or it's never worked that way. What do I know.
I just did twenty years of television at three different
networks and never once was like, hey, guys, we got
to talk about the school because we have their conference
on our network more than anybody else. That's love an aight.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
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Speaker 2 (26:09):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. It is
always something lot to get to still that we haven't
because we've talked so much, so much about college football.
Let's so we talked some cheaps. I see why is
(26:31):
what it? It does? Feel like it's over and when
your last interception is off of Travis Kelce's hand, granted
the ball was behind him, anyway. But it hits off
the superstar tight end who's been a focal point of
all of these runs. And your superstar quarterback throws three
interceptions and you just you don't have the horses. You
(26:54):
don't look good. They even lost out of the buy,
which Andy read. It feels like, never does stat Let's
tell you he has more with the Chiefs than he
did with the Eagles. It does feel like this version
of the Chiefs is over. Here's Andy Reid talking about
those tough drops and his fourth down decisions.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
Yeah, listen, these are great players, so I mean, we
got to make sure we catch the ball. They know that,
and they're trying a flack effort there. You know, all
went through their hands and it happens, you know, but
those guys are great players. I put the guys offensively
in a tough position with the fourth downs. I'm trying
(27:34):
to stay aggressive with it. I take full responsibility for that.
And there are opportunities that you've got to take advantage of.
You're playing a good football team in the Texans, and
you've got to make sure when you have opportunities to
make plays, you make plays. And we were short just
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
There, s Doug Gottlieb Show, You're on Fox Sports Radio. No,
I don't feel bad for the Chiefs. I don't I
love again. As a coach, I can learn from many
to read. Hey man, it's not like they're not trying.
They're great players, but between you know, the offensive line issues,
the lack of wide receiver talent, the aging of Travis Kelcey,
(28:15):
some of the injuries, the defense, which I think it
was kind of built around just being okay, but I
mean literally, they took what most people would deem as
the most fun, innovative, explosive offense we'd ever seen, and
now it's really really really limited, really limited. This is
not unlike most runs. They all kind of come to
(28:38):
an end. It's why the Patriots thing was so unique.
But remember the Patriots went a decade without winning a
Super Bowl. Of course, one of those years without the
winning a Super Bowl, they got to a super Bowl
at eighteen and oh right, so it's not like they
were bad all of those years. And then Tom Brady
tore his knee the next year. But usually this is
(28:59):
the way it works. You know, Oh, you you have
to get rid of a guy who wants more money,
Tyreek Hill. You have age of one of your stars,
Travis Kelce, you have some injuries running back, offensive line,
(29:20):
and even your star isn't as shining as bright because
he's surrounded by the same team, and people kind of
figure out, go ahead, pick out any run you want, right,
Like if you watch the last Dance, remember Horace Grant
left the Bulls to go to the Orlando Magic. Now,
(29:42):
part of it was and he wasn't gonna get paid,
but this is after I believe it was after Jordan
had retired that he went, and he left and played
in new Orlando Magic. Right, Steve Kerr was not the
point guard. Originally that was John Paxson. Then you know
bj Armstrong and Steve Kerr, and so in any of
these there's just there said you have to move on
(30:02):
at some point and get the next guy. And what's
probably most amazing about the Patriots, I continue to contend,
was their ability to keep it going, to be consistent
and the fact that Tom Brady didn't take top dollar.
And I know that Mahomes is not the absolute peak,
but he took a ton of money, which everybody said
was a team friendly deal. But they just don't have
(30:23):
the resources to go out and get anybody else. You know,
if you have a super highly paid defensive player and
a super high played offensive player, you're like, man, we're
getting thin on other places. And then when you're good
and as good as they've been this long, you're not
gonna draft high. So the further down the first round
you pick, the more risky the pick is, the lot lower.
(30:45):
The hit rate is. Same thing in the second, same
innion the third, same thing in the fourth, same thing
as the fifth. Really are do I feel bad?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Because they went from being a team that couldn't win
in the playoffs, lost at home in the playoffs, to
a team that you couldn't be in the playoffs. And
I still think that if some way they got in
the playoffs, I don't want to play the Chiefs because
they've been there so many times they just figure it out.
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dot com. This is the Doug gottlib Show. You're listening
to Fox Sports Radio. Well, let's get to Dan Byer
with the Press.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
The Press.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Pete Bavaqua was the athletic director for Notre Dame and
earlier today he was on The Dan Patrick Show and
said this about the ACC.
Speaker 9 (32:15):
I have tremendous respect for Miami, you know, great team,
great school, but we were mystified by the actions of
the Conference to attack you know, their biggest really business
partner in football and a member of their conference in
twenty four of our other sports. I wouldn't be honest
with you if I didn't say that they have certainly
done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference and
(32:38):
Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Some harsh words with ACC Commissioner Jim Phillips responding in
a statement today, and while he says that the Conference
has tremendous respect and appreciation for Notre Dame, he said quote,
when it comes to football, we have a responsibility to
support and advocate for all seventeen of our football playing
member institutions, and I stand behind our conference efforts to
(32:59):
do just that. Leading up to the College Football Playoff
Committee selections on Sunday, and no time was it suggested
by the ACC that Notre Dame was not a worthy
candidate for inclusion in the field end quote.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Sounds like Jim Phillips is trying to not back off,
but make sure he smooths it over. I'm just telling
you this right now. Notre Dame has the hand in
this relationship. Don't think otherwise. Notre Dame has hand in
this relationship. The ACC is grasping, grasping football wise until
Florida State, Virginia Tech, and Miami are all collectively, you know,
(33:34):
top ten teams that league going to struggle, and they
need Notre Dame to play them and be a part
of it. Gonna be interesting.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Colts quarterback Daniel Jones is going to miss the rest
of the season with a torn achilles suffered in their
loss to the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Absolutely bummed. And the rash of Achilles injuries continues, right,
just continues. I mean, you know, your boy Jannis's is
out right now with the cap strain, and everyone everyone's like, don't, don't,
don't come back, don't come back. I cannot believe how
many achiox injuries.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Have been I was driving to work and I heard
that Jones was out and I just assumed it was
the leg that he had the fracture in it. Yeah,
me too, Yeah it was not.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Now, Now, what happens sometimes when you do have an
injury is you have an imbalance and you compensate for
it and it can cause a different injury, which maybe
is what happened here. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Bronze quarterback shouldor Sanders will be the team starter for
the rest of the season. According to the head coach,
Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I've told the people this before though I thought he
played pretty well. The touchdown pass the end zone, did
anybody realize that they were had a wide open guy
in the middle of the football field. Threw it to
the wrong guy anyway, But Shaduur can't be a backup,
at least in Cleveland. There's too much noise, he's too popular.
(34:57):
So that's really what Stefansy's got to figure out. Is
he gonna be my starter? Am I gonna roll with him?
Or we're gonna draft somebody else and then we're gonna
trade him. That's the reality there, because you can't have
Shador as your backup. His dad's showing up having all
this stuff, and then you draft a guy number one
and number two or number three overall and then you're like, no, no,
he's our guy. Like yeah, you got Schador there. It
(35:18):
doesn't work. Dylan Gabriel career backup, Perfect backup. Shador Sanders
got to be a starter.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Terry Rozier pled not guilty to federal charges of wire
fraud and money lawn during today and has been released
on three million dollars bond. Rosier accused of helping his
friends win bets on his performance at NBA Games in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Uh that wait, tell me that story one more time.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
So Terry Rosier, remember was busted as part of the
federal He just he pled not guilty to today was
released on three million dollars bond.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, he's also there's also a viral story about him
from a young woman, but you can go online to
check that one out. Whatever.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
The twenty twenty eight Open Championship is moving day now.
This is interesting to me as a golf fan because
of the Summer Olympics in twenty twenty eight in Los Angeles,
there was a conflict with the golf competitions, and not
only the Men's Open Championship, the Women's Open, Seniors Open
as well. Those are all going to be played in August.
The Open Championship will take place the first week of August.
(36:18):
When the PGA ended up moving their schedule doug and
moving to May from August, one of the reasons was
they felt that every four years there was going to
be a conflict because of golf being in the summer Games. Well,
with the LA Games being from mid July to the
end of July, it actually conflicted with the Open Championship.
So now the Open Championship is going to be a
few years later in twenty twenty eight. PGA wouldn't have
(36:42):
been affected at all if the schedule would have stayed
the same.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I know stories that twenty twenty eight, but it's also
an Olympic year too, there's there's some adjustment there with
the Olympic year in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Well, yeah, that's the whole reason for it. I just said, yeah,
that's why they had to change it. So and that's
the press they.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Get out there and press that was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, it's always one of those things at the Olympics
where you're like, how do they they get You've got
to plan ahead. And the changing of schedules in golf,
it's been really interesting. Some point, maybe podcast we got
to get into how you think the change of the
major schedules, how it's affected the sport as a whole.
In the meantime, we'll continue to react to the College
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