Paying College Athletes Doesn’t Make Sense

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complaining about officiating. It's because the leg shows red hot.
But the hot takes are a coming, and we are
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Lebron James complaining about foul calls. We got big deal,
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Matt Painter, head coach Perdue the boiler Makers the three

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seed at the Garden. Upcoming this week, Madison Square Garden
is home to the Big Ten Championship. I actually have
a thought on how to fix the Big Ten Tournament. Um.
That's because I don't know if you guys know, this
Big Ten Tournament is going to be early this year,
moving up a week. It's gonna be played at Madison
Square Garden. I'm gonna be broadcasting on the radio side,

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uh and get a chance to be there in person.
Still doing the show, I think all but one day
this week, but regardless of which Matt Painter is gonna
join us upcoming. I was in West Lafayette, was in
Lafayette and West Lafayette yesterday had myself a triple EX
Burger Triple X Burger ram must just so you know
they're there. Um, they're Dwayne Purvis. Burger is a cheeseburger

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with peanut butter on it. Have you ever had that before?
I just want to tell you that I do like
peanut butter, but I'm not on a cheeseburger. But wait,
have you had it? I am not? Maybe I don't know,
You're right? I do not know. I've not tried it,
so that is correct. I have used to be there
used to be a place in Nebraska that I think
it was Peo Pears, I think it was that what
was called I can't remember anyway, And they used to

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have a famous bacon cheeseburger with peanut butter on it,
which was fabulous, fabulous and um uh this is um
this is the the version in West Lafiat. All right,
we'll talk burgers and other stuff with with Matt Painter,
who of course played at Purdue coaches at Purdue. It
has them back as a top ten team, although they
did fall in some hard times before dominating Minnesota on

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Fox Sports one yesterday. But let's start with the discussion
that everybody seems to be having. No one knows if,
in fact, Sean Miller gave any money to DeAndre Atan
or directed money to be given to DeAndre. And what
we are told from an ESPN dot com report was
that the lawyer for Christian Dawkins, who was a runner

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for an agent Andy Miller, his lawyer said on the
wire taps that Sean Miller directed a hundred thousand dollars
to be paid to DeAndre and to make sure that
he came to Arizona. Now, if you've been following any
of this story and reading kind of the the small print,
there are some timeline issues with the ESPN dot com story.

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It went from being last summer two thousand seventeen, and
then they they did a correction to to two thousand
spring of two thousand sixteen. But there is no connection
between Dawkins and Eton, and that was long before any
of this was supposed to have occurred. Like it's a
really weird window. And so there's a chance that this

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is in fact hearsay or having not heard the tapes.
No one's heard the tapes except for the lawyer, and
of course Christian Dawkins was on it, and I would
guess the FBI we don't know exactly what was said.
So it's really important, I think, to not rush to
judgment as to what was said, what was done, and
I guess what can be proven. The problem is that
in the court of public opinion, Sean Miller's done, Sean

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Miller paid Deandret and Deandrean's on the take, and you
hear all kinds of hot takes. I've heard Jason wentlock
quite like a great deal, said good for DeAndre. Others
have said, now it's time to pay the players, and
of course the anti n c A rhetoric comes out.

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I'll give you my thoughts in a second. One of
the hottest takes comes from an NBA head coach who
has never been a Division one head coach, has spent
the greater part of his professional years coaching the NBA,
and for the record, for the record, I like stan
Van Getti. I do. I like many of the things
that he stands for as a coach and as a man,

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and I feel terrible that he got stabbed in the
back by pat Riley when pat Riley took over the
team and won an NBA championship with Miami heat Um.
Stan Van Gundy was for a very short period of
time one season the head coach of Wisconsin. He took
over for Stu Jackson. It was one year, it didn't

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end well and uh and and he left and Dick
Bennett took over. So for the greater part of his
professional career, that's, frankly, the last twenty five years he's
been in the NBA. Before that, he was in the
Northeast as a college coach. He had this to say
after the game. I believe yesterday I think a lot

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of it was racist. Quite honestly, I've never heard anybody
like go up in arms about, oh my god, they're
letting these kids come out and go play minor league baseball,
or they're letting these kids come out and go play
minor league hockey. Product. They're not making big money in
their white kids primarily, and nobody has a problem. But
all of a sudden, now you've got a black kid

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that wants to come out of high school and make millions.
That's a bad decision. Um. I guess my question to
stand Van Gundhi would be really, really simple, who's the racist?
Considering that's an NBA rule, that's one that was collectively
bargained by the owners and the players. The one and

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done rule is not a college rule. College basketball is
powerless to the NBA collective barn agreement, and anyone who
states otherwise is either obtuse or lying. So I I
understand from his time twenty five years ago he may
have issues with the n c A. I understand that

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some people don't don't like Mark Emmett. I understand that
there are people who believe everybody should get whatever they
can get as soon as they can get it. And yes,
the vast majority. Matter of fact, nearly all of the
players who came out straight at high school except expect
except for one, we're black. And a good portion of

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the players that come out of college after one or
two years are black. But this is a rule, the
one and done rule that was actually agreed to and
negotiated by the players Association and the owners. Oops. Oops.
He He also went on to say he thinks the

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n c A is the worst organization in sports. Were
most corrupt organizations? I can't remember exactly, he said, Um
has no one heard of FIFA? Do we not remember
the World Cup? Or that the World Cup is going
to cut her? And how it gets to cut her?
The US, not the U S, the UM, the IOC,

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the International Olympic Committee. Yeah, they got some issues there too.
The NFL, of course has some issues, the NBA has
some issues, and Major League Baseball has some issues. To
put the n c A as the most corrupt organis
of the worst organization all of sports when FIFA, FIBA,

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and the i o C are all sports organizations. In addition,
by the way, to Little League baseball, which profits greatly
off of little kids, like what are we doing? And
calling college athlete collegue, calling the n C a racist
for a rule that they have nothing to do with.
And that's the problem is that people have smart people

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collectively lost their mind. They've lost their mind, they've lost
all sense of reason and logic, and they want very simple,
easy solutions, easy solutions for are very complex problems. Who's
paying them? Is it income? Or do you want better stipends?

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Do you want interest free loans? Because the truth is,
if an athlete believes he can be a professional, you
know that they like any student, can go and apply
for a federal loan up to seventy and pay it
back once they declare to become a professional. You know
that right? Our agents paying them? Is it from TV revenue?
Is it from schools? And from all of the above,
Because if they're getting income, then by the way, they

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have to get taxed on that income, and they have
to get taxed on the benefits from a school. If
it's only agent money, when can they take it? Why
can they only take it once they get to college?
Why can't they take it at thirteen years of old age?
From how many agents. Can they take money from Are
they the employee of that agent? There's gotta be tax implications.
Can agents pay coaches as well? Can they get involved

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as to why someone transfers? If we're saying they can
take a loan from agents, who's regulating that? How are
we in suring that financially illiterate families aren't preyed upon?
How are we ensuring the risk of injury? If it's
a name and likeness, who's calculating that? Because the calculations
are completely off? Do they get paid by the school,

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by the TV revenue disbursement? How are they taxed? How's
a guard in the women's yukon's team and a center
on the Penn State volleyball team calculated differently than a
walk on and k use men's basketball team or a
backup quarterback for a football team that never actually plays.
Do you do local commercials? Can you do national commercials?
Who represents them in these deals agents? If we're gonna

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just compensate the Power five football and men's basketball, at
what point did they become those employees? And if their
employees those four year contracts that they have known as scholarships,
because those have been made to four years. Do they
have buyouts in them? Would they have to pay a
buy out in order to transfer? Is this an autonomy
five type decision? A conference decision? Is it from the

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department's operating budget or the conference's media revenue? Is it
tied to ticket sales, apparel avenue um annual giving, TV contracts,
all of it. It's just not that simple. We're on
the verge of a superficial moral panic that throws out
a really, really, really good system that most absolutely positively,

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including me, benefit from in the search of a perfect system,
and perfect doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfect.
So I I understand how people see or hear billions
of dollars generated and revenue. It's not really billions. That's
just a big number, much like uh NBA, NFL contracts.

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The reality of it is, you've got fourteen teams in
a contract. You got a twenty year deal. Yeah, there's
a B next to it. But when you break it down,
you're talking about each school bringing in fifty million dollars
at the very top, and you're talking about big ten
schools and maybe s excuse C schools making fifty billion
dollars fifty million dollars, But who's going to pay the

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debt service on facilities. You have to pay for all
of the travel. You also have to pay for the
scholarships and the training table and uh, the academic services,
and you're getting less money from the state. Like I
I completely get that you just want simple Olympic model.
But the Olympic model has nothing to do with schools.

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There is no Hey, we want you to go to class.
We don't just want you to represent You're not just
a representative of our student body. You're actually part of
our student body. This is much like in the House
or in the Senate, like we actually want you to
live and work in the district that you're representing, so
that you do in fact speak for us. A lot

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of people who are really smart saying this is a
simple solution. It ain't. It ain't. It just is not
and what you end up doing here's the easiest way
to look at it. I just like anybody else, there's
a lot of small n c A rules that don't
make a ton of sense. That's not what this is about, okay,

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but you you it builds up negative equity and you're like, man,
that rule sucks, and that rule sucks. Meanwhile, by the way,
many of those rules that stunk have been changed, but
those rules were put in place for two or three reasons,
one student welfare, student athlete welfare, to coaches welfare, or
three to even the playing field. And oftentimes they've done

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the opposite of the intended effect, which is probably what
would happen if you'd compensate players above that of a
scholarship and the cost of attendance. In your effort to
compensate kids, you would end up having less people on scholarship,
having less money to support the student athlete with having
lesser facilities. And yeah, they get a thousand dollars or

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five thousand dollars in their pocket, but that's not why
anybody went to school. You go to school to get
an education, to need people, to experience life, and to
set yourself up for your first job, and especially basketball,
which is a lot less valuable on a college campus.
In football, you only have to stay there nine months

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and you don't actually even have to go there's a
minor league system. You can go to the G League
right away. Why hasn't anybody gone there and gotten a
shoe deal in the g League because you need college
athletics in the branding of your school in order to
build up your own personal brand. This is just a
simple case of really smart people lying to you or
not understanding or carrying some sort of anger. Maybe stan

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Van Gundy Harvard some sort of anger the fact that
he was at Wisconsin's assistant coach, got the job, didn't
go well, got bounced after one year, and gets replaced
from Dick Bennett, gets a buy out, and maybe he's like,
you know, I just I hate college athletics. What's ironic
is most NBA guys the thing they hate most about
college athletics is the pandering over high school kids to

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recruit them. Is there any more pandering than offering players
money out of TV revenue that's generated based not upon
their skill or their value, but all the previous games
contradicting themselves, just like stamping. Gunny contradicted himself when he
said it's a racist rule set up by the n

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c A, when the rule is actually set up by
the NBA, the NBA owners, the NBA players, the collective
part agreement. Lebron James is wrong, He's absolutely wrong, But
the timing of his proclamation about officiating is right. I'll
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a very non scientific Steady Ramos, Ryan Music producer, Store
Dare of the show. Um, Dan Buyer, there's this is
a the very non scientific study, but a non sit
My non scientific research tells me that, um, no one

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ever gets I want you to listen very closely. No
one ever gets second opinion, a second opinion on a
good prognosis. No one ever. Mr Gottlieb, you are cancer free. Sorry, doc,
I need a second opinion that doesn't happen. Doesn't happen? Okay,
that's one. No team ever has meetings players only meetings

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during wind streaks. Hey, fellas, we've won ten a row.
Let's get together and kind of hash out our problems.
Huh now, it's not Actually neither of these would be
crazy ideas. You get a good prognosis to go and
get a second, but no one does. You win ten
games in a row, and in order to stay mentally healthy,
let's air have our airing of grievances. But no one does.

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No one does simply does not happen. Um. I've also
found that players never complain about officiating when they win.
Have you ever heard that? Have you ever heard a
winning team going man that officiating was terrible. I cannot

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believe the calls. I don't have no idea how we won.
We should have lost. The officiating was crap. It's never
happened before. Oh, there's other things that don't happen in sports.
No one ever comes doctor never comes out of surgery
in sports and saying, hey, I got no idea. You know, look,
I was hungover from last night. I've had five surgeries

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early today. I hope he makes recovery, but I got
I got a bad feeling about this. Right, guy goes
through surgery, doctor always comes out. He's expected to make
a full, complete recovery. The surgery went off without a snap.
Every sports surgery ever has gone off without a snap,
without without without a hitch. Do you ever notice that

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I do? Um? Ah, here's another one in sports that happens.
How is your summer? You know? He asked a college
football coach, Man, we had a great summer. These guys
dedicated themselves over the summer. The amount of work they
put in the weight room working on their own. You know,
the guys, the quarterbacks got up through the football. We
are faster, stronger, Everyone got better over the summer. Here's

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another thing. There's never been a defensive coordinator who's gotten
a job who says we're going to be less aggressive
than the previous guy. Has that ever happened? But most importantly,
there's never been a team, especially in the NBA, where
everybody complains about everything, especially deficiating. Never been somebody as
a player who complains like this about officiating when they win.

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Here's Lebron James after yesterday's game. I think we're at
a point in the shooter more than a driver. I mean,
there's no reason I should be going to the line
four times in the game. When I drive a hundred
times to the pain, I'm getting jambons slapped and grabbed
and whatever what not. So but we protect the shooter.
That's what that's what it's turned into. Um, you know,
chicks digged the long ball and that's what it's about. Yeah,

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nobody likes you dunking on people abroad, right, Um who
leads the NBA in free through attents? Ramas here you
wear Lebron James No, no, no, no, no, no, James
was James Harden was? What was James Harden? Um? And
so is Would you would you characterize James Harden as

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a as a jump shooter or a driver? I would
say a jump shooter. What would you say their music?
I'm sorry, Ryan Musics on the phone right now. He's
working on getting us Matt Painter in your moments. Um. Yeah,
now look for the record. He takes twenty shots again,

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half of his shots are three point shots. He leads
the world in free throws. He takes actually less free
throws this year than he has previously in his career. Um,
what I think has happened is in the NBA, for
a long time, we have rewarded the aggressor, the offensive
player who jumps into the defense, and offensive players have

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finally gotten smart and finally listened to officials about what's
called verticality. Verticality. Verticality means you can jump up, you
have you are you are, Um, it is your space
on the floor from your feet to your the top
of your fingertips or up all the way into infinity.

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If you're like in a cylinder. As long as you don't,
and you can come a little bit forward, you know,
your hands can come. I think it's like twenty degrees
towards you know, towards the other player. But basically, from
your feet to your tiptoes, from your tea beat to
the top of your head, all the way up to infinity,
that's your space. Your space. And what I think officials

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have done a better job of, and what players have
done a better job players of establishing their position using verticality,
and officials no longer give that benefit of the doubt
to the player who drives in and jumps in and
creates contact. So, um, do I think this is sour Graves? Yeah? Yeah,

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I mean look, j R. Smith was oh of six,
one of eight from the field, George Hill one of
seven from the field. They had combined four points from
their backcourt. Shetty Usman Ausman, who of course has been
their energy guy. Right now, he's kind of he's regressing
towards the mean, one of six, no rebounds, no steals,

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four fouls, and though they're getting some pop off the
bench with Jordan Clarkston, they're just they weren't be good
enough to beat the Spurs at home. And remember the
Spurs don't have Kauahi Leonard. I have never heard I've
never seen anybody get a second second opinion on a

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good prognat prognostication. I've never heard of players only meeting
after a win streak. And I've never heard a player
complain about the officiating when they won the game. And
so forgive me, Lebron. If you want to complain about
the officiating when you win a game or when you
get to the foul line fifteen times, that's great. But
instead it just it sounds like sour grapes when your

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team laid a massive egg and that that honeymoon phase
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A story from The New York Times says that NFL
commission to Roger Goodell is close to finding Cowboys owner
Jerry Jones a seven figure amount for conduct detrimental to
the league. Now, sources tell The Times that Jones will
be fine for his actions and trying to derail the
efforts to give Goodell a contract extension. The report says

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while Goodell was reluctant to find Jones because it involved him,
he was urged by NFL owners who were not happy
with Jerry Jones's conduct on pursuing the fine. So we
could be hearing about a fine for Cowboys owner Jerry
Jones for complaining about the you know, for trying to
take out there, trying to take apart the contract extension

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for Roger Goodell and then threatening to sue the league
and to sue the other owners. So now the owners
are urging Goodell to find Jones. So Goodell may end
up finding a finding Jones more than a million dollars
something to keep our eye on. NFL Network says the
Vikings will not place the franchise tag on quarterback case

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Keena Well. We finally know what the Chiefs are likely
to get in exchange for Marcus Peters as he was
traded to the Rams. It's a second rounder and a
fourth rounder. In multiple reports say the Dolphins are expecting
to trade wide receiver Jarvis Landry, who will receive the
franchise tag. College basketball no change at the top of
the AP Top twenty five rankings, as Virginia and Michigan

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State remain one two. It should be noted that Kentucky
comes in at number twenty three after a couple of
weeks absence from the rankings. Doug and I know you're
gonna talk some college hoops in the very near future. Yeah,
what's produce? What? Nineer? Alright? Seven and twenty seven and eight.
We'll get to Matt Painter in in one second. You
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coaches versus cancer, of course, I think many of you know.
I lost my dad to cancer about three years ago,
and there's so many coaches who do an amazing job
on their own campuses, using their voices their platform to

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raise money for the American Cancer Society in their fight
to eradicate cancer. There's a fabulous golf tournament. Actually, I
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It's awesome. The eleventh year. It's gonna take place this May.
We'll be promoting it and one of the guys who
plays in it does an incredible job on the campus

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of his alma mater is Matt Painter, the head coach
of those produced boy of the Makers. He joins us
on Fox Sports Radio, Painting, how are you doing good?
Doing good? Thanks for having me on. I got a
chance to be in West Lafayette yesterday. That was the game,
wasn't it was? It was never really in doubt. It's
kind of it was a great celebration for Senior Day.
But I think kind of it's it's really interesting how this, uh,

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this senior class turned things. Like you had two years
there where things weren't going well at your alma mater.
How did these these seniors in particular change things kind
of refocus the culture of your program. Yeah, where we had,
you know, we had a really good run. We went
to six straight tournaments and then we didn't go to
the tournament for two years. Now these guys have been

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the tournament for four straight years. But you know, it
was just one of those things after going through the
success that we had and then in terms of skill,
like we didn't have a skilled guy. And I think
that's the one thing, Like you want tough guys, You
want guys to understand how to play. You want guys
that are about winning, which also our skill level wasn't

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as high, and these guys were able to do that
that I think Isaac was the perfect compliment to all
those guys. And so that's something I really tried to
dive in, is like getting guys that you know, we're
about winning, but also just sticking a you know a
lot of three point shooters out there on the court.
And I think we've been able to do that. And
Vince Edwards is a guy that's really versatile, and Isaac

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has is um, you know, a tough matchup if you
haven't gardening before, it's just really hard to kind of
adjust to him. And then Carson Edwards has really developed
into a dynamic player. Um that gives us kind of
that that special player they can go make a play
for himself or make you know, make a play first teammates. Okay,
so but but but help me, like let's let's go

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back when you had Chris Kramery, when you had Robbie Hummel.
Of course he had each one more right, he has
rolling and Hummel got hurt and that really derailed you
in two different years. You know, one year you look
like a Final four team, but it fills Your story
is very similar to Jay's at Villain, Jay Wrights at Villanova,
where because you've had some sustained success and guys get
drafted in the NBA, now of a sudden you can

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get into more homes than you used to. But maybe
you didn't get the Purdue guys right, So how does
how does that? How does it happen? Because it is
like I've seen it happened Mile Monard. Happened in Oklahoma State.
They got to the Final four and oh four sixteen
o five. They had a great recruiting class. Half the
guys don't show up. Most the other guys that you're
transferred don't live up to it. They dip. Georgia Tech

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they played for national championship. Same thing happened there, happened.
It's seriously happens in a bunch of places. How does
that happened? Where you would think recruiting the quote unquote
higher caliber player is better for your program, but it
actually can set your program back a little bit. I think, Um,
and obviously we woud love to go to Final four
and love to have that problem. But I think the
one thing you get away with was that continued success.

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You know, the guys that you mentioned, UM, we're guys
about winning. We're very selfless guys. Jowan Johnson was one
of the most selfless guys we had. Chris Kramer played
a great role. Robby Hummel was an All American, but
he really played a role. Eta Moore was our was
our main guy in terms of scoring the basketball in
Juan really developed into that. I think what and this
is from what we did. When you have talent in

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your area, like Philadelphia, players in the Philly area along
the East Coast, players in Atlanta with Georgia Tech. You
talked about Oklahoma and going into Texas and recruiting Oklahoma
and recruiting that area, there's players, and so in Indiana
there's players also. And sometimes when you recruit the best
players in your area, UM, there might not be the

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best players for you. And I think you know, us
branching out and getting a couple of guys from Ohio.
Vince Edwards was great for US, Kota Matthias was great
for US. P J. Thompson's a guy we took in
the spring. But I had to go through it with
some guys that I was coaching to say, you know,
here's a guy that you know might not have this
guy's athleticism or this guy's speed, but man, this guy's
about winning and he makes shots, and he's gonna play hard,

(30:31):
and he's gonna he's just gonna help you win basketball game.
So I think that was really kind of the telltale
for us as we took us some guys that were
that were good enough to be here, like the guys
that you mentioned that they struggled with at those places,
they were good enough to be at those places. But
does that translate to winning? And the obviously did. Is
there a litmus test? Because look, I heardj question, well,

(30:52):
so so what is it? Is there something? Is there
a question you asked them? Is it being around your players?
How do you know if a kid is going to
be a good fit for you? Boy, that's an exact
science because you talk about because everybody's talking about culture,
you know, it's that. It's that, it's that words like,
you know, hey, they gotta fit our culture. It's got
to be our guy. But how do you get down
to where you can detect it? You know? How do

(31:13):
you know? UM? I think being in the know and
being around certain people and someone's in your area can
really help you. But sometimes when you branch out going
and finding out those type of things. We've done a
lot of different things that try to help us, UM
from personality testing UM to just you know, trying to
spend more time. But it's hard to spend more time

(31:33):
with somebody when they're not close to you because they're
not getting there. Each one more made eight to ten
on official visits here. I mean, we we knew, like, hey,
this is our guy and this is our you know,
and you barely missed, you know, get on the McDonald's
All American team and have bothered him and you know,
and when he got here said hey man, you're you're
our guy. But we we knew, um, what we had.
We knew we had a great guy and a great

(31:54):
great player. Matt Paynter joining us on the dug Out
Leaves show UM all one time in Isaaca US for
a second, because when he I think the the easy
parallel is he looks on a basketball floor, um like, um,
like Ivan Drago looked in the ring with Rocky right
that they kind of look alike. Like he's just and

(32:14):
he's an incredible personality. At him with a microphone yesterday
and senior night, like, he's amazing. He's amazing in front
of a room. But what was when his dad played
but football at Alabama? Right when you first and for
people having who don't know what I'm talking about, Isaac
has he's seven ft two, he is like sculpted. Uh.
You know, he's got kind of perfect Midwestern probably a

(32:34):
one and a half two on the side, perfect blonde hair, right,
and he's become a very very good low post score
and passer if you double team him. Um, how did
no one in the essay? How did how do you
get a kid out of the SEC in Alabama? And
he comes up to Purdue, Well, they recruiting and everybody
in that area recruiting. Um. He wanted engineering, he wanted

(32:54):
biomedical engineering, um, and he wanted to go somewhere that developed,
UM a center. And so you know he says, I
don't want to go somewhere to where you know, I'm
just a guy setting a screen and you know, on
the ball screen. And you know, we had had a
j Hammond's, We had had Carl Landry who had had
Jawan jobs, and it wasn't like you know, it was
North Carolina where they just you know, have two or

(33:15):
three guys at all times, and so we just kind
of talked about our niche. We were fortunate. It's kind
of the way things happened, you know. He he committed
to another school and then he d committed from that school,
and we were very fortunate to get him. So but
that was the reason. Now, that was whether you know,
he got down to the engineering piece. He didn't end
up staying in engineering, but it was really the development

(33:36):
of a five man like himself and his freshman sophomore
in junior year. We've had Hammonds and we've had Swan again,
but we've thrown the ball inside more than anybody in
the country. I don't know what our numbers are now.
Um I know at one time this year he had
the most low post points um in terms of playing
with his back to the basket. So it was just
a real good fit for us. Um Okay, obviously the
you don't play until Friday in the Big Ten tournament.

(33:58):
But the Big Ten Tournament has been moved up. Jim Delaney,
the commissioner, said, Man, we probably shouldn't have moved it
up just to play in Madison Square Garden. I have
a solution. You tell me if this makes any sense.
You know, the Big Ten back when you play that,
you didn't have a conference tournament, right, and I know
that you don't play everybody twice, and so you kind
of need a conference tournament to maybe settle some things,
and you can some of those teams on the on

(34:20):
the bubble can get a cup more wins. Why not
do away with the conference tournament and just play two
more game play at twenty two game, you know, a
twenty two game conference schedule. That way, everybody gets two
more games, one more home game, and I mean, I
think that every wood would make just as much money anyway.
It's not the worst idea. That's the one thing that

(34:40):
we really pushed to go into twenty games is because
now when you look at the teams on in our
conference that are on the bubble, if you take the
two worst games out of their non conference schedule and
had two more big ten games and go play in
the tournament. You've just increased your chances of having more
teams in the tournament. I think that's a that's not
like opinion. That's a fact. You go run the numbers.

(35:02):
That's a fact. So by you saying that play played
twenty games, make sure everybody gets an automatic two games,
and call that your tournament, even though you don't have
a winner, the only thing that's going to do is
help your help your conference, and help those teams on
the bubble increased the It's not nothing's guaranteed, but it
increases their chances of getting in the tournament. And the
team's at the bottom get to play two more games,
said like half. You know, there's me a bunch of

(35:23):
teams going home on Wednesday seasons over Wednesday Wednesday. It's
just this crazy um last thing, obviously we talked about
the Final four. You came close, you know as a player,
you know coach Katie came close. You guys have had
I mean, the injury obviously to Humble, I think is
the one that just devastated that group's chances of getting there.

(35:43):
Um how and of course you've had early exits in
the first weekend the past, these these past couple of years,
how much of that creates tension when there doesn't like
you've had a great season. These guys have had a
great run, they were celebrated. How much of that is
tension that you have to deal with over the next
week and a half, two weeks before you get to
the tournament. Yeah, I think when you go through a

(36:04):
lot like we we lost in the double overtime. Um,
their sophomore year, we lost in overtime. Their freshman year,
the last year we over the Sweet six team. UM.
You know, they've been through adversity, they've had some success,
they've been through a versus so they know, you know,
they've been in the finals of the Big Ten Tournament,
they've won a game with a Big Tin tournament, they've
lost in the first round the Big Tin Tournament. So
like they've had the ups and downs of everything. And

(36:26):
so hopefully having that experience, you know, really helps going
into the Big Tin tournament. And so now when you've
got to wait a little bit longer, even though it's different,
they've they've still been through a lot. You know, they've
been on an overseas trip, They've been in another overseas
trip represent the USA Basketball um last year in Taiwan,
so we we have a lot of experiences. He took

(36:46):
Carson Edwards in there. You know, he played with CAL
in Egypt last year long with playing with US in Taiwan,
and the summer before that he played in Spain. So
there's a lot of experiences and there, and that's what
we're hoping just through our experiences and being together, um,
it can definitely help us here coming into the Big
Ten tournament and obviously playing well in the n c
A Tournament. Well, the arena was amazing. Facilities are incredible.

(37:07):
More than anything, the team and the way the kids
purport themselves. I know you've heard it time and again,
but good group got a chance to when you were inside.
I was out in the court yesterday did the radio
broadcast of it. He had a good group of guys.
Wishing you nothing but success. We'll see you in New
York and then onto the n A Tournament. Thanks for
joining us, all right, Thanks Doug. All right, Matt Paynter
joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. That's gonna be

(37:28):
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(38:31):
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(38:51):
John Wooden was an Hall of Fame player before he
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Little deal. Alright, big deal? Little deal or no deal?
Doug that the cavaliers apparently had to tell Rodney Hood
he needs to shoot more. Um that's a little deal.
I mean, like, look, encouraging I got to shoot more

(39:32):
is not a big deal at all. Maybe just try
to get acclimated didn't know his role coming over from Utah,
so they just said, hey, Rodney, start shooting. I think look,
he had worn out his welcome in Utah, and I
I think he probably knew that and was just hey, man,
I don't want to shoot every time. I get it
when I first get on this team, like no, no, no,
we need you to come in here and score. Not

(39:53):
a big deal. It's when you have to go the
other way, like we want you to shoot less is
a bigger deal. All right, that's a tough car station
as well. Big deal, little deal or no deal That
billboards in Cleveland are popping up trying to entice Lebron
James to sign with the seventy sixers in the off season.
I've never seen it before. I think it's a great move,
but I think it's no deal. I just I can't
think of billboard makes him want to complete the process

(40:16):
as the billboards say, yeah, another one hashtag Philly wants Lebron.
How about this from college basketball? Big deal, little dealer,
no deal that Iowa's Jordan bohan And intentionally missed a
free throw yesterday so he wouldn't break the consecutive free
throw streaks set by the late Chris Street, who was
killed in a car accident at night. It's it's it's
a big deal. My brother's roommate, Bruce Overton is best

(40:36):
friends with Chris Street, and uh, this is a big
thing at the time. Is a great player at IOWA
more than anything, a great person. I do think it
is interesting. Jordan bohan and tied the record, then missed
the free throw. Why don't miss the free throw before
he tied the record? Yeah? I thought, yeah, interesting. Finally,
big deal, a little deal or no deal that the
Vikings won't place the franchise tag on quarterback Case Keenum. U.

(40:59):
That's a big you know. That means Case Keenum is
on the open market. That means he won't return to
Minnesota Vikings. They have three quarterbacks, so now that they
say have to to deal with this is game time.
On the Doug Gotlieb Show, I want to give you
more on the Case Keenum situation. Plus, I was watching
The Godfather on the way home last night and Godfather too.

(41:23):
I watched Godfather and Godfather too, and how I think
that relates to the Jerry Jones Jerry Jones versus Roger
Goodell situation. But case Keenum is a freeman and Blake
Borrel's extension. I think there's a direct correlation. Why would
you give Blake Barrels over twenty million dollars guaranteed over

(41:45):
the next two years when you don't love him? Answers
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Black Bulls Got paid. The World Reacts News eleven. So um, look,

(42:09):
I think there's one dominant story over the weekend. That
was the Sean Miller did he did he order the
code read right? Did he offer up the did you
say we're gonna pay um DeAndre Atan a hundred grand?
He didn't coach against Oregon Arizona loss in overtime to
the Ducks, and everything that's happened since apparently ESPN didn't

(42:33):
hasn't heard the wire tap recordings. They're taking the word
for it of the lawyer from Christian Dawkins. There's a
discrepancy between the originally reported date of the recordings and
even the date that now yes kamis saying occurred. Seems
went from a little bit late when he had already
signed to early before they're ever recruiting him, and Shamiler

(42:55):
wasn't involved, So there's a lot there's some ambiguity there
that I would I would hope like Mark Slayba is
a friend. I think he's a good journalist. I think
he's a good reporter. I don't know if you go
with the maybe it's in how we all jumped to
conclusions because in the original report, he did not say
that he hurt. He's simply reporting what was told to

(43:17):
him is in the recordings. But that's what we all
went with. Maybe it's not a trust for them. Um.
We know a little bit more now about the trade
that sent Marcus Peters to the RAMS and what Kansas
City got back in re term. We'll get to that.
But I I thought one of the most interesting stories
of the weekend and what maybe is the most interesting

(43:41):
NFL story of the weekend, far more interesting than the
vindictiveness of Roger Goodell. And I'm not sure I blame
Roger Goodell. Where where Jerry Jones. They're they're pushing Goodell
two uh to find Jerry Jones for trying to blow
up Goodell's extension deal. This news came out yesterday. The

(44:01):
Jaguars have resigned Blake Bortles to a three year contract
extension running through two thousand twenty. It's got fifty four
million dollars worth up um. The deals is four fifty four.
It could be worth sixty six point five million dollars
with incentives. It's got twenty six point five million dollars
in guaranteed money. He was supposed to make nineteen million

(44:22):
in two thousand eighteen. So Ryan Toldner's his agent told her,
by the way, just full disclosure. As a friend of mine,
we discussed this a little bit a couple of weeks ago.
He's saying like, look, they want to keep him, and
I think what happens is Tom Coffin said, Blake's growth
and development last season was the key to success to
our team we had. Blake has proven with toughness and

(44:44):
dependability that he can be a leader of this team
needs going forward. Along with this contract come high expectations
that he will continue to improve and help our team
accomplish their ultimate goal. But you see this money and
you're like, man, that's a lot of money for Blake Bortles.
Who I mean. There were times last year in which
she sucked. Now he completed six passes, first time he's

(45:07):
surpassed Mark yards, three touchdowns, thirteen in receptions. And the
Jaguars what they are saying is, Hey, if the Eagles
can win a Super Bowl with Nick Foles as quarterback,
if the Vikings can get to the NFC Championship with

(45:28):
Case Keeneman quarterback, if we can get to the a
f C Championship game with Blake Bortless quarterback, why change? Additionally,
this gives them cost certainty over the next two years.
It's really a two year deal. They bring down the

(45:48):
cap number four next year. It allows them to pay
other players, and um, it gives them cost certainty. In
addition to which, look at the money that's gonna be
thrown at Kirk Cousins. Look at the money that's gonna
be thrown a Case Keenum Now that he's not gonna
be franchise tagged, he's gonna be on the open market.
Look at the money that Jimmy Garoppolo just got. Now,

(46:09):
Jimmy Garoppolo is better than Blake Bortles, but better doesn't
always mean worth more money. Like the next guy up
usually gets more money, and so this deal is simply
about cost certainty. Is he great? No, And anybody who
says he's great, anybody says Jacksonville thinks he's great. I

(46:29):
give you fifty three seconds to go in the first
half against the New England Patriots, and they take a knee, right,
No one takes a knee with any of the elite
quarterbacks in the NFL, especially when your offense is playing
good and you've got a chance to go for the jugular.
Like that's the difference in the Eagles and the Jaguars.
Were they conservatives, sure, but they were smartly conservative, like, look,

(46:50):
we're not gonna put up a position where he can
kill us. But by my estimation, this is a way
in which they don't have to. The devil you know
is better than the devil you don't. And uh, this
is I mean, who else are you going to go

(47:13):
out and get. It's obviously the Giants aren't gonna part
with Eli Manning. And so if you're not gonna get
Eli Manning, a proven winner in the playoffs, who is
not a proven winner in the regular season, and Eli
Manning might be washed up, and you don't case Keenom
is not proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and you don't
want to overpay, and then you'd have to upset the
Apple car. Plus you already locked in a nineteen million

(47:33):
dollars for Blake Bortles because he had risk surgery. I
understand that this is classic of this is like in
coaching searches where people always ask why they hire him? Well,
who was actually available? Because we we have this ill
fated assumption that everyone is available and that's just not true.

(47:55):
Would I'd rather have Aaron Rodgers? Yeah? Would I rather
have twenty other quarterbacks in the NFL than Blake Bortles?
Sure do. I think there are ten other quarterbacks in
addition to those twenty who are as competent and possibly
more confident Blake Bortles. If given Leonard fo Net the
running game, and I'm sure they'll put even better skill

(48:17):
position guys around him. Absolutely, But what is the cost
of getting into that as opposed to you got cost certainty?
You already had to pay him nineteen million this year
because of the surgery and the guaranteed money. And I
actually think case keen is a perfect example. Case Kendom
is gonna be overpaid on the open market. Nobody knows
what he'd really look like if he's playing outside all

(48:39):
the time. He's really more backup than starter. So I
don't think the jack this is the Jaguar is going
all in. I think the Jaguars saying this is what
this is where we are, this is the best we
can do. We could potentially draft a guy and have
him back him up and developing that they'll probably do.

(49:01):
We got Blake Bortles, We've got Chad Henny. We'll get
some young guy who will try and develop, try, and
you know, find a guy who can do the things
that Blake can't do. In the meantime, well, pretty good.
We run the risk of screwing up our culture. We
run the risk of showing disloyalty. By the way, run
the risk of getting a guy who's less competent than Bortles.

(49:23):
Even though even though Blake bortles competency can be called
into question, I kind of get it. I don't think
he's particularly good. I think he's limited. I do think
that the a f C will be healthy, we better
and uh, they won't be able to win a super
Bowl because because of you know, first and ten fifty

(49:43):
three seconds to go, Let's take a knee, because that's
who Blake Portles is. But I also don't know if
I have a better, if I have a solution for
how to fix the quarterback issue. They should have done
it mid season before the trade deadline for trade Eli Manning.
It should have done it then, But since they didn't,

(50:04):
what are my better options? And that unfortunately, and that's
that kind of relates to um. That kind of relates
honestly to the n c A solution. Right, everyone wants
a solution to these n A problems. But with with

(50:31):
new ideas come all new problems. Oh yeah, pay the players, okay,
but then everything becomes taxable, and now you're just buying
kids and to go to school, which isn't really the
intent of it. And they can already basketball players can
already go straight at high school. There isn't really the
value there if you thought any individual player had value.

(50:53):
How come how come you know Turner Sports paid how
are hundreds of millions of dollars for twenty they cover
the term for twenty years. It's because of the bracket.
So you can say, hey, look, I don't understand why
they don't do this. The problem is that for fifty

(51:16):
sixty seventy years, hundred years, the n c A has
been doing it a different way. Do I think that
the Jacksonville Jaguars would like a better quarterback? Sure, none
of them are gonna be round in the draft. And
if you get a guy around in the draft late
in the first round, now you run the risk of
a rookie quarterback getting thrown into action far too early.

(51:37):
When that first round draft, it can be used for
a player that's gonna help you. You already had Blake
Portals under contract. You're not starting from zero. It's not
a blank. The world doesn't occur in a vacuum, and
not in a vacuum. This kind of makes sense. It's
most of the money that you're gonna pay up front,
a little bit more than you're gonna pay pay this year.

(51:58):
You pay this year anyway, and then next year. Yeah,
some of it's guaranteed, but you can get out of it,
or you can add another piece and maybe draft a
guy this year that you developed for next year. That's
the reality of it. NBA champion Thiago Splitter joins the
show up coming next I'm gonna ask him about the

(52:19):
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(53:52):
can't like, oh, the culture is great's something about but
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Like in order to find out about Apple, you have
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don't just not a lot of leaks into really successful
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(54:13):
every assistant coach has gone and got a head coaching
job hasn't been good, right, Most players that have left
haven't been good. What is it about the Patriots? Like,
I don't know, it's really hard. Well, they hold people accountable. Okay,
there's gotta be more to it than that. So that's
why it's always fascinating to have an ex patriot on
it's fascinating to have an ex spur on Um. He

(54:35):
played with the Spurs, the Hawks, the Sixers. He recently
announced his retirement from basketball. Of course, he was the
first Brazilian born player to win an NBA championship. He's
Thiago Splitter. He joined us in the Doug Outlip Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Thiago, how are you hi?
How you guys doing? I'm good man? Do you miss it? Yeah? Man?

(54:56):
So why retire? Like we see? We see big guys
running up and down the court. Is your your body
just quit on you? Yeah? I did uh make surgery
on my hip I have. I had a hit resurfacing. Basically,
it's a like a hip replacement but a little bit smaller,
so I could uh run and play basketball. And I

(55:17):
did it for ten games. But after that season with
the Sixers during the summer, you know, I was trying
to get in Shane, trying to get back at it,
and then my other hip, Uh talk to bug me again.
I went to the doctors. They say, well, just like
the other one, you need a you know, another surgery.

(55:39):
And I was like, no, man, I can't take this anymore.
It was like twelve months of recovering thirteen months and
you know, I got too much slower and playing this
NBA game. It's no way I could make it, you know. Yeah.
Is there any similarities in what you had done to
what Isaiah Thomas had down? Is that a different type

(56:00):
of hip surgery? I think it's different. I think it's different.
Mine is way more complicated. It's it's it's basically a
hip replacement. I had a metal hip. You know. He
didn't didn't do that. He I think he has like
something in the labor on and it's just, uh, it's different,
and it's I hope he reak over well and you

(56:22):
do good, you know, because hip is no joke. Man.
He is probably the worst thing to get injured. Yep.
I've I've heard, I've heard. I've heard NBA g ms
and scouts they always say your hip and your back
even more so than your knees and your ankles, because
you're hip in your back there's a lot more tricky.
It's a lot more tricky to fix um as opposed

(56:42):
to two knees. Although they can, you know, they're problematic,
But there's lots of guys who had structurally repaired knees
that still have long NBA careers. Yeah, the knee. You know,
he moves front and back, your hip moves all the way,
you know, all kinds of directions. So it's way more
complicated and the amount of time and care that you've

(57:05):
gotta put it's it's enormous. You know, every little twig
cool hid you know Tiago Splitter joining us on the
Gottlieb Show. I know, you just participate in the NBA's
basketball without borders. There's a ton of overseas talent which
has come in. I mean, actually, you look. I think
in the playoffs last year, every starter, every starting center
on the NBA playoff team last year was born in

(57:27):
the foreign country, not born in the United States. Why
is it that that there's so many more better big
guys internationally than there are born here in the States.
I don't know. I think, uh, you know, basketball is
going globally, so it's natural to have more international players
in the NBA. Um Why there is so many big guys, um,

(57:50):
I don't know. I think it's as a big guy
is a little bit easier to get to the NBA
just because of the size, uh international, and also maybe
they teach different basketball too. League guys around the world,
you know, they try to pitch a little bit of everything, passing, shooting,
driven the ball. So I think we have a little

(58:11):
bit more like a complete player, uh, you know outside
of the US, but then you cannot compete with the
guards and the wings in US is such different. You know,
there's such athletic and they had such a good competition
inside US when they grow up, and you don't have
that outside the US. So the competition here is very

(58:33):
bigger and it's very stronger. That's why you know you
have so many guards, wings and all the stuff. What
are your thoughts on what's going on with Kauai and
the Spurs? I mean, Kawhi Leonard was we thought a
perfect fit for the Spurs, right, A guy who plays
both ends, A guy who we don't see in front
of the cameras, right, he just there's a little tim
duncan to him to where he's he's quiet, but he

(58:54):
keeps getting better, keeps getting better. Many people regard him
as the third best player in the NBA. And now
that there's there's there's something between the Spurs and Spurs
doctors and Quiet where Papa saying they might not be
back this season, and yet he's been cleared by the team.
What's your sense of what's going on there? Well, I
wasn't there this season, and all I know is from

(59:18):
when I was there, And like I said, I think
you say everything is the really quiet guy. It's a
guy that we will not express himself much. And you know,
sometimes you have injuries like that that doesn't recover that
well and you just need to put more time and
you need more communication. And that's all I mean. There's

(59:41):
nothing wrong with the medical staff in the sent first,
there's nothing wrong with the coaches or the string guys.
They're the great professionals. They everybody tried to do the
do the big job, best job, and you know, some
situations it just happens like that and you don't know eyes.
Some people recover different, and you know, it's it's interesting

(01:00:03):
because the body sometimes it's not like two plus two
equal four. Sometimes it's different. Everybody is different. Everybody recovered different.
And during my career, I have pains in some places
that will do m R I M or I will
say nothing. But you have a pain. And sometimes it's

(01:00:24):
not just like you know, oh, you're gonna see something
in the MRA on the scan that I'm gonna say anything,
but you don't. You don't know, you don't know. And
that's the the hardest, you know, part of sports. And
it's manage all that you know, pains and the amount
of times you're gonna put in record, the amount of

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times have recovered the rest what you're eating. That's the
hardest part then. And it's sometimes it's not two plus
two equal four. I'm telling you it's not. No, No,
I got it. You are your own best doctor, right
and they're telling you you're fine. You're like, no, no,
I'm not fine. Like, well, we see nothing in the
m R. I you're you're good to go. You're like,
I'm not really good. I'm not I'm not good to go. Um,

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what is it about the culture of that place that
allows them to be successful. I know you helped try
and bring that to Atlanta, and then obviously Philadelphia was
when when you were banged out playing with the bad hip,
but you were there. You guys want a lot of games.
You guys want a lot you know, won a championship
should have won another one. Uh if not for the
ray Allen shot right, one more offensive rebound, one more
defensive rebound, you win, you in two. What is it

(01:01:29):
about the Spurs that's allowed them? I mean, we're all
reacting to Lebron and yet what we're not saying is, Hey,
the Spurs without Kauai went in and thumped the Calves.
What is it about the Spurs allows to be so
successful so consecutively. Well, I think there is a culture
in that team. You know, that's Teff that everything that

(01:01:50):
I have seen that everybody, um, you know, it's in
the same page, and everybody trying to win games. And um,
the from the top, let's say, from Marc and Pop
to the bottom to the kipman guy or the water boy.

(01:02:10):
Everybody feels like they have something to say or they
have something to do to being games. And you gotta,
you know, give all the the good words to Pop
because he's the master that he's the guy that is
um doing that seam work and in a very good

(01:02:33):
way of respect and family and having fun at the
same time. Even that sometimes you guys look at us
from outside and we are boring. We're just doing what
we have to do in the court and then pop
you give an interview and he sounds boring. And but
the the choice you're there are your win games. You

(01:02:55):
have fun. You have fun. There's nothing more fun than
win games. I'm telling you you got to team that
loses and they can party all they want, they could drink,
they can do whatever they want, but they're not gonna
have fun if they lose. Nothing is nothing is as
fun as winning. I would, I would, I would agree
with you. Um. Last thing, Lebron says, Hey, look, we've

(01:03:17):
gotten to the place where we're protecting jump shooters so
much that we're actually not protecting drivers. He thinks when
he drives in and creates contact, he's not getting the
calls he used to. You've seen kind of this league
evolved maybe a little bit to the Spurs style right
where you're you're you're driving, kicking out more European style,
driving and kicking out for three, constantly relocating. Um, and

(01:03:40):
you know, defensively, I think it's changed, not just with
the semi circle, but how the game's officiated. What are
your thoughts on how it's changed and if we're protecting
the shooters too much and not protecting the drivers. I
think he's right. I think is right. Um, we are
protecting the shooters. They seem you know, or more Finese

(01:04:02):
or or maybe a week there the shooters, so every
time we touch them it is a foul. And when
a big guy go there or or Lebron drives to
the basket, and there is a lot of comfort and
nothing is being called. But if the Spurs play like
that is Golden States places like that, it's for a reason.

(01:04:22):
They want to win games, so they adapt to what's
being called. The Spurs is not shooting trees because they
always been like that. No, they shouldn't treat because that's
how is the NBA is being played. Because if you
check the stats and if you see that the best

(01:04:44):
defensive team is gonna win. The team that doesn't um
make stupid fouls is gonna win, That don't send people
to the free throws gonna win. So they check all
those parts and they check also that if you have
a good three point shooters in the team, change to
win is also higher. So it's not like crazy, you know,

(01:05:06):
the way to play basketball. If it is the way
that people is winning, maybe if the next season we
have a like a Schklo new game. There's gonna go
to the basket and is going to score all the time.
Maybe we're gonna shift again back to the big guys
and you need six guys to fall and the beast
fall change. But Thiago, it's it's super interesting Thiago Splitter

(01:05:32):
joining us in the doug Outlip Show. He's recently retired
course one NBA Championship with San Antonio Spurs, lost another
finals with the Spurs. It's it's fascinating to me because
there are the there's this group of young centers who
can't call Anthony Towns, Joel embiid uh Yokich, who's I
think phenomenal, probably the best that no one talking people
outside the NBA don't talk enough about. Right, we got

(01:05:52):
this this group of prezingis when he gets it gets healthy.
But you mentioned how the game's officiated. Because it's so
physical in the low post, you're better off having your
big guys face up and handle the ball out in
the wing. Do they need to adjust the officiating so
that we re established post play because the old school
post is going, it's really dying the way the mid

(01:06:14):
range jump shot is dying. Well, the mid range just
think die because of it's really like, coming to stats
and people analyzing games, it's way better to shoot a
three point of a mid range because percentage. And that's
easy to say. But order to chain basketball and the

(01:06:34):
people playing the game, you have you need to have
a team with NC in the Davis and maybe the
Marcus Corsins win the title. And if you have those
guys they're winning the title, Oh, then you know the
GM is gonna start. Oh I need like four big
guys to guard those guys. Um feel that happened. The

(01:06:54):
game is gonna be a small ball game, you know.
And then maybe if you see like a couple of
seasons that big guys win the title, then the game's
gonna switch. That's how he's always been, you know. So
it's interesting because I was with basketball with four Borders
last week here during the All Star and I was

(01:07:15):
telling the big guys, they guys, I know it looks
good to shoot all those trees, and but man, we
gotta you know, go the airplane side, bring attention, you know,
drop calls, go to the street, throw and make this
a big man game again. I know this doesn't sound

(01:07:37):
sexy for basketball, but there's a lot of big guys
there that doesn't have now any attention because the game
is just a small ball and they gotta win. They
gotta win titles, they gotta win rings. Then we're gonna
start to think about big guys again. Thiago Splitter joining
us in the dug Outlie Show. Obviously you know the

(01:07:58):
first Brazilian born player to win nbachship. Uh you were
Spanish leagu m VP won two Spanish League championships. Um okay,
So here's my question. I want the most honest answer,
the most influential or most successful foreign player in during
your time. I I think it's Mano and my argument

(01:08:18):
is Manu won. Hell he wont a gard gold medal
with Argentina, right, he won obviously one when he's playing,
won the European Championship as well. And though he might
never have been the quote unquote best player leading score
for the Spurs, he was incredibly important. His versatility kind
of change things, maybe more so than Dirk. I know
that Dirk is a guy you can build around offensively,

(01:08:40):
but he didn't do all the little things that Mano
didn't do. And look, Dirk's teams got eliminated in the
first round time and again, you're a foreign born player.
Who who do you think has had the better run
or the more influential run in his career? Mano or
Dirk no doubt, no doubt, easy and is out. I
think Mono um plast of all. Uh, he doesn't get

(01:09:06):
the credit that issues. Uh, He's he's the brain, the
soul of the Spurs. I mean, you guys have no
clue what he does for that team. You know, he puts, effort,
he puts he's an example for everybody. He's, you know,
a great player. He's still playing with forty years old

(01:09:29):
at the wing. You guys know how hard is that.
I mean, it's him and Vince Carter. Vince Carter is
a beast. You know, it's probably one of the most
platic guys we've ever seen. Mice Carter and Mono He's not.
He just played because he's smart. He understands this game.
He knows how to read the game. He and of

(01:09:53):
course in a system that's allowed him to play the
way he is. But he definitely changed every team for
the fore names in the NBA, I mean claim that
many years we need I don't know. For rings Um,
he's really special and Uh, you know he's from Largent.
You know I'm Brazil and Argent. You know we have

(01:10:14):
some library. But he was like really in my friend
and the team. He helped me to adapt and uh whatever.
You know, he will be one day Hall of fame
or he deserved that because for me, he's the best
foreign players to play. Do have a great stuff. Man

(01:10:35):
Let's catch up again soon, and thanks so much for
joining us on Fox Sports Radio. Thank you guys. All right,
that's Thiago Splitter joining us on the Doug Gallip Show.
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(01:10:56):
that argument plenty of times. People shouted down, I'm an idiot.
How can I not think that Dirk Navitsky was the
better player because Dirk scores more points. Your reaction to
him saying, man Now, obviously he's a former teammate and
friend of Manu, but it's not like Dirk's our genemy.
Then sure, and you listed your the accomplishments of Mano
and what he's done with the Spurs and also then

(01:11:18):
with Argentina and the gold medal. And if you want
to maybe even take it a different way, Doug, what
about just Yao Ming's on a broader scale of what
they have done international players? I know, what doesn't compare
to what Manu and Dirk Navitsky have one, but you know,
impact on the game, you know, internationally, I think Yeao
Ming's is pretty big as well. I know it's a
different conversation, but yeah, his popularity in China. I mean,

(01:11:42):
he didn't he didn't he was never healthy, he never
did anything in the playoffs, didn't winning. Sure, that's why
I said a different conversation, But I think of just internet,
you know, I don't know. Just I'm not sure how
much you know, I don't know. Just go ahead, what
do you think? I just I think when you listed
the accomplishment accomplishments of Mono Genobli dead on two thousand four,
was that when they won the Olympic gold and then

(01:12:03):
they won the World Championship two on our soil, if
you have, yeah, and that was that was a low
time for USA hoops and Dirk as he said, most
accomplished individual player. But I don't know, you know, maybe
started the trend of guys you know, and and the
the appeal of the European you know, flex four or
you know, if you're stretched for if you will. But

(01:12:24):
like people compared to Larry Bird, like, no, he's not.
He never rebound like Larry Bird, didn't pass like Larry Bird.
He's not Larry Bird. And I'm not trying to disrespect
Dirk Dovitski, but like he is, he is a poor,
poor man's version of Larry Bird. He is a he's
a great player. Larry Bird is one of the ten
greatest players in the history of the sport. Dirks do
that conversation. My point is I think sometimes um and

(01:12:46):
and maybe people thinks it is unfair, But like look
after twenty years, if one guy, every team he's on,
wins way more than you ever thought possible, right, and
another guy sometimes he wins and sometimes he doesn't. End
both are considered, if not the best, among the best
players on that team. I think there's that's why do
we play. We don't play sports to score points. You

(01:13:07):
play sports that your team has more points the other
team when the buzzer sounds. At least that's why very fair,
very fair argument for sure, uh and a good one
for the side of Mondo Jenovli. By the way, one
other note in the NBA to pass along. Looks like
Ersnelio Silva is gonna get his release from the Hawks
and sound with the Sixers. That's according to the Vertical.
But the big news of the day doug really coming
from the NFL. The New York Times reports saying that

(01:13:28):
Jerry Jones could be fined a seven figure amount by
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell for conduct detrimental to the league.
The sources tell the Times, Jones will be fined for
his actions and trying to sabotage the contract extension for
Roger Goodell. And before you think that, oh, Roger Goodell
is getting back at Jerry Jones, that's not the case.
Goodell was actually reluctant to move forward with a fine,

(01:13:50):
but after the urging of other owners or from other
owners to go forward with it to find could be levied.
According to The Times, within the next couple of weeks.
The report said that owners help that Jerry Jones crossed
quotes an unspoken boundary by threatening colleagues end quote. So
we could be seeing a fine for Jerry Jones soon
Vikings aren't gonna take that's that's that's ill violating an

(01:14:11):
unwritten rule. Right. He threatened, he threatened to sue, He
tried to expose people, He tried to blackmail people. And
now they're like, wow, this is this is is fascinating.
Billionaires and their lawyers will be heard. That's for sure.
Case Keenum is a millionaire or at least a gonna
be getting paid some millions at some point. We just
don't know where not going to get the franchise tag

(01:14:33):
for the Minnesota Vikings. According to the NFL Network, Virginia
Michigan State remained one two in this week's Associated Press
Top twenty five College hoops ball and finally dug the
U s g A announcing today that they are going
to do away with the eighteen whole Monday playoff at
the US Open. Remember tiger Woods ten years ago defeated
rock A Mediate on Monday. Yes, they are no longer
going to do that. It's going to be a two

(01:14:54):
whole playoff. If there was a tie after seventy two
holes at the U S Open, let's wrap these things out.
That's come on, fellas, let's go to why a tool
play that seems like an arbitrary number. Well, there are
the PGA Championship does three in the Open Championship actually
has a four whole playoffs. So I think they just
didn't want to be the same as the other two,

(01:15:14):
so they said, let's do it. It's the lack of
lack of universe universal approach is just um and I
do understand not haveing. It's an aggregate to right, it's
not a yeah, it's not match play, it's yeah. If
you get a five and a four, then you're up
with you know, even par against That is weird. Now

(01:15:37):
they always do a part five and part four. And
that's the thing is each tournament beforehand they select what
the what the holes are, and to be honest, usually
when they do a sudden death they just play eighteen
over again. But depending on the courses routing, they will
likely want to end on eighteen. But so you could
play seventeen and eighteen on some courses, but there may

(01:15:59):
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(01:17:00):
Eight strokes back is what he finished. But let's just
be honest, it's great to have Tiger back competitively. I
continue to believe uh that he will challenge for and
maybe might well win the Masters. And you're like, whoa
wait a second, he had one yet. Justin Thomas is
the story. He is but tiger when he's right at Augusta,

(01:17:21):
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Clay Travis now kicked the coverage or first Things First
with Nick Wright and Chris Carter. Nick had this to
say about what the Cowboys should do regarding Dez Bryant.
He was bad last year. Dak was worth targeting him
than anybody else. He he has not lived up the
last few years to the contract that he did earn
by those extraordinary years three or four or five of

(01:18:48):
his career. But you're six seven, eight, As you talked about,
it's been a clear downward trajectory. But if right now,
let's say the Cowboys today cut Dez Bryant, you know
who the best free agent wide receiver and NFL would
be league wide des Bryant. So we talk about as
if the Cowboys have some great option, like by cutting him,

(01:19:08):
you'd save eight and a half million bucks. But who
are you gonna go get like Jarvis Landry, who is
I mean, he catches a ton of balls, but it's
seven yards to catch every time. Jarvis Landry has been franchised,
so they'd have to trade something for him and give
him a huge deal. Sammy Watkins is out there, but
he we don't know what Los Angeles is going to
try to do with Sammy after that troll prior who

(01:19:30):
had a terrible season. Mike Wallace, who is on the
wrong side of thirty, like, I don't see a better
option for the Cowboys. Well, look to me, it's not
whether or not you want to hang onto Dez you do,
but is DEAs worth the headache? Does des know that
he might have to move inside some he might have
to change be a better blocker, he might be thrown

(01:19:53):
to less and will he take less money? So you're like,
this is it's not different than the Blake Buetles deal.
Like Blake Boetles, Sure he signed a multi year extension,
but he's taking less money per year. Now he's helping
the team against the cap and Blake borders by the
way they think can get better. Whereas Des Bryant, you
feel like may have topped out the idea that you

(01:20:14):
can't go out and get a wide receiver. Well that's
not accurate. There are wide receivers that will be on
the market, and for the type of money that does
is supposed to make any think it's fifteen million dollars,
you can go get a couple of wide receivers. So
I I I disagree with Nick in terms of he's
not replaceable. The question is at what price. We all
have a price, we have a value. By the way,

(01:20:34):
does had this to say on a local Dallas radio
station in regards to people, Uh, people who are in
or out on des Bryant, I let a lot of
things get in the way that should have never got
in the way. I really made my mark. I don't
care about what nobody's talking about. I can care left.
You know everybody ain't with de Brian. I can kiss mine. Yeah,

(01:20:57):
I don't know if that's the way to way to
handle it, right. He was targeting a hundred and thirty
three times. It's not like they didn't throw him the football.
He caught seventy passes. Uh. Some of this is on
Some of this is on dec some of it is
on Zeke and suspended, but a lot of it is
on Dez. And Dez continuing to defend himself. When you

(01:21:18):
know you get you start to get defensive, and we
start to understand there's something really there and this idea
that you ain't with me. Like, look, I'm I was
a big des Bryant fan before others were. I was
on the des Bryant bandwagon as a superstar wide receiver
be where others were. But everyone has a price. Jarvis
Landry is not worth what he wants. That's why the

(01:21:38):
Dolphins are going to deal Jarvis Landry. And Jarvis Landry
isn't yet to the prime of his career. Des Bryant
isn't what what his contract says. So look, the Cowboys,
I'm sure want to keep him. I'm sure they want
to stretch that contract out over a couple of years
and make it far far less against the UH against
the salary cap. And if he takes that as well,

(01:21:58):
if you're either for me or against me, the world
is full of gray area, and des Brian doesn't seem
to be able to grasp the concept of gray area.
Be gone with you, then, does I want to get
There's another story coming out of Dallas, which I think
is fascinating fascinating. I wanted to get to that. I've
coming next, Plus maybe taking a couple of your phone calls,

(01:22:19):
all these let's play the players guys like they don't um.
It's always fascinating to me how people directly contradict themselves,
whether Stan Dan Gundy or just the entire idea of
college athletics, and that people who want college athletes, essentially
high school kids to be paid to play college athletics,

(01:22:41):
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(01:23:27):
from the beautiful sunny city of Angels, We've got a
great third hour for you if you missed Thiago Splitter,
who I thought was outstanding, former Spur, former Hawk, former sixer,
his thoughts on Kauai Leonard and the Spurs, his thoughts
on maneuversus Dirk, his thoughts on hip injuries, uh, and
officiate in the NBA. Kind of interesting. Thiago joined us

(01:23:49):
last hour. Matt Painter from Purdue joined us in the
first hour of the show. You missed that, download the
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We'll put it on our Facebook page after the show
as well. We got a lot to get to today,
not a lot of time uh to do. You know,
we got a lot to do, not a lot of
time to do it. But I will will point out
later on in the hour. Um later on the hour,

(01:24:13):
we're going to be joined by Trent Dilfer. Trent Dilfer,
NFL analyst. We're gonna just talk all quarterbacks. There's this
sense that people have and people have just called it
downright racism, right, Oh, it's it's racism. And I think
it's kind of interesting on how we're trying to discuss

(01:24:35):
who who are the top uh top quarterbacks in this
year's NFL draft and when one name comes up and
people are mixed in terms of their reviews. And maybe
it's because he won a Heisman Trophy, maybe it's because
of how he plays. I think most of it's because
he's you know, um, some people believe because he's black,

(01:24:56):
Lamar Jackson is polarizing and look, Trend's gonna join us
in a little bit. I'll get his thoughts on it.
I'll just give you mine. Isn't it okay for me
to just not think he's gonna be that good? Right? Like?
I mean, if if because he's black, I don't think
he's that good at a quarterback and he happens to
be a freak athlete, why is it so wrong for

(01:25:19):
me to think that? Now I can only support it
based upon what I think and what I've seen. I've
watched him play a ton at Louisville. He's been great
at times two years ago at Clemson, like he single
handedly brought them back in the game. But there's just
times in which he misses throws that an NFL quarterback
cannot miss. But there's some electrifying things he does, Like

(01:25:44):
it's one thing to be slippery in the pocket and
find a way. But he's I mean, he's a freak
athlete back there. He is the answer to the question,
what if you had a guy with the athleticism of
an elite wide receiver and put him at quarterback and
he could really throw a football. That's what he is.
The problem is, it's it's very difficult to be a
quarterback in the NFL when you at times lacks of

(01:26:04):
accuracy and weren't in such a highlight driven culture. All
you've seen is the highlights of Lamar Jackson. It's like, yeah,
he's awesome, Okay, but as I expect my eight year
old son, who's he's gonna play flag football here again
in the spring. I remember um his first season playing
flag football. He's five, and he gets a pitch and

(01:26:28):
people pull his flag and he gets the ball like
three or four times in the game. And part of
it was the coaches that year, those guys that just
played rugby, like they're really rugby players and they're basically
doing pitches and like student body left, student body right,
and I'm like, fellas, you can throw the ball a
little bit, even with five and six year olds, And
they just didn't understand they hadn't played football growing up,
they didn't understand football, and eventually your boy took over

(01:26:50):
the play calling. But I remember after the first game,
Ramos my son came over, crime like, why are you crying?
He's like, because I didn't make any spectacular plays. I
was like, hey, dude, what are you talking about? Like
you see on YouTube spectacular catches and I didn't make anyone.
Was like, look, a spectacular catch might happen once every
five games. This is kind of what football is. What

(01:27:13):
football is. First down, your run, second and your run.
Third down, you play, Actually you pass. That's kind of
what it becomes. Now, of course you pass a little
bit more. Can I just not like Lamar Jackson as
a starting quarterback right now and think he's really got
to develop some consistency if he's going to be a quarterback.
But I love him as a backup because he could
be if you have some you know one, if you
have like a Deshan Jackson who might get hurt again,

(01:27:35):
or if and you're gonna play in that kind of offense,
or if you have kind of your traditional quarterback as
a change of pace. Guy, I love it, love I
just don't like him as a first round pick. Or
maybe even a second round pick. That's that's me Trent
deal for joined the top of the hour, I mean
in the fifteen minutes. So this story out of Dallas
is super interesting, or maybe it's out of the NFL offices. Basically,

(01:28:00):
Roger Goodell now has one and I told you a
long time ago, like Rogerdale is not going anywhere. Jerry
Jones can be mad. Jerry Jones can point out the
league mishandling um things, you know, handled mishandling, the flag controversy.
He can point out the league mishandling domestic violence issues.

(01:28:22):
He could even point to the execu Elliott suspension said, look,
we've mismanaged these things, miss handle overfind oversuspended so many players,
and we've taken away from the product, takeaway from the ratings.
But Roger Goodell's works for all thirty two owners and
he got them through the concussion lawsuit right for less

(01:28:45):
than a billion dollars. Everybody thought it was gonna be two.
And to pay for it, he got not one, not
too but three teams to relocate Rams, Chargers and Raiders
all relocated and in combination, and all of those relocation
fees are going to be in the two billion dollar range.
Two billion. They created the Thursday Night package out of nothing,

(01:29:11):
then they split it to CBS and NBC, and now
with the new Fox package which starts this year, they
got more money. Even though both of both the CBS
and NBC didn't want to pay more. Fox did like
they got more money for a kind of floundering impact.
He has games in London, he has games in Mexico City.

(01:29:34):
Gets you into new markets, which means more revenue, more money.
He's made all of these guys far more money than
they thought, even the Carolina Panthers, who are gonna have
to sell their team, at least partly because their owner
Jerry Richardson just can't contain himself in what he says
and does around women and disgraceful. Do you know he's
gonna sell the team for over two and a half

(01:29:55):
billion dollars with a B. You're not hiring him and
I'm firing him. You're throwing a parade for him. And
what happens when you win? You settle all You settle
up all loose scores, right, set up all loose ends.
Have you guys seen Godfather too? What happens when he

(01:30:20):
wins him and Wroth dead, Frank pantaient Lee dead, even
his own brother Fredo, which that's who Jerry Jones essentially is.
Right next NFL owners meetings there together, Jerry Jones walks up,
sees Roger Goodell, Hey, rog, how are you doing? Roger

(01:30:41):
Goodell has to give give him the Sicilian death kiss,
doesn't he you broke my heart? Right? It's like, Jerry,
I know as you, Jerry, I know as you. All along,
Jerry Jones threatened to sue guys. That's like the guy

(01:31:03):
in the mafia is starting to rack people out. And
of course, the second Zekielli gets suspended ANALYS study, He's like, man,
I'm gonna hold up your contract extension like the mafia dude.
Settling those scores. Tie up all loose ends, tie up
all those ends. Um. And then we have, of course

(01:31:24):
the FBI investigation into college athletics, specifically college basketball. I
never think of myself as the smartest person in the room,
and I like to listen to smart ideas and I'm
open to solutions. But I found that any time somebody

(01:31:45):
takes a really complex problem says I got a simple
solution for you, boom, huh, what do you think? I
think sometimes it's smart people think they have all the answers.
It's are It's just that easy. And so when I
hear basketball analyst TV pundit so easy. We just compensate

(01:32:12):
the players with the Olympic model. Wait, what the Olympics
have no tie to to to a college, to studies,
to universities. Additionally, like you're already operating under a tax
free shield, and so if you pay players, they're no
longer going to be shielded from taxes even with their benefits. Additionally,

(01:32:37):
sometimes the interest I heard Mark Emerton, the president president
of the n c A, said, look, we want to
consider having them have agents. Look here's the thing with agents.
Think what you what you what you run into If
you have an agent for a kid, and look I
wouldn't do this, but you have an agent of a
kid and he drops thirty in the Big ten tournament
this weekend and in in New York City, and the

(01:33:00):
represent your interests for the future. He'll just tell a kid, hey, man,
you should sit so you're sick, say you're hurt, you
can't play, shut it down, because why would you run
the risk of having a terrible game or two. And
if you want to think that doesn't happen, well I'll

(01:33:20):
give you the NBA Draft combine or NBA workouts. Guy
has a good workout. They shut him down. Everybody talks
about shut him down. All these scholarships now are four
year contracts. So if you if you leave or if
you leave the agent, if you leave the agent that
you're with, who got you the side deal with Joe's Towing,

(01:33:42):
do you owe them money? Do you have to pay
back money um that you that you took. If you
you represented a car dealership locally, can you switch agents?
Do you have a buy out out of your contract
which doesn't currently exist? Like, I don't think people understand
the college landscape. It's more, it's harder to get into.

(01:34:03):
It's more expensive to get into than it's ever been.
And and sometimes when we say, well look at the
facilities and they're wasting money, Like all of these facilities
that are being redone, most of them hadn't have been redone.
And yes, they spend a ridiculous amount of money and
they make them super super nice. Why for student athlete welfare?
So you enjoy what you're doing, where you go, where

(01:34:23):
you work, by the way, have you have. I think
what happens is people have only been who who haven't
been to a college campus. They're like, man, those football
players in Texas, they got a really really nice locker room,
ridiculously nice locker room. I um music. You went to
cal State northwards. So I don't know if this is

(01:34:43):
occurring at Sea Sun, but I've been to Oklahoma State.
There's a brand new student union since I went there.
There's two or three brand new buildings, including the brand
new business building, which is obscenely nice, also obscenely expensive.
All of the dorms, every one of the dormitories has
been redone. They all live in beautiful apartments. Like it's

(01:35:04):
not just that we we there's no control group. Like
all athletes are being taken care of better than ever. Yes,
so are students. And all that money that's generated is
put back into the university. It's something everybody is running
around with millions of dollars falling out of their pockets.
It's not even it. Yes, coaches make a ton of money,

(01:35:28):
maybe too much, but part of the problem is you
cannot limit the amount of money that they make. You
can't they and say try in the past with an
assistant coach that used to have the restricted earnings assistant.
And once they said it's restricted earnings, you can only
earn so much, the coaches sued and you can't have
that position, so you can't restrict anybody's earnings. But here's

(01:35:50):
the big conflict. Some of the same people, especially NBA people,
they don't like college athletics. Do you know why because
of the pandering to high school athletes who haven't anything yet?
Why do I have to kiss this kid's ass when
he has yet to even play a college minute. These
kids are so entitled, they don't know how good they

(01:36:10):
have it. They don't work hard, and all we do
is suck up to them and AU in high school
and ESPN you ratings and once they before they even
come to college. And yet those are the same players
that some of these same NBA people like they should
be paid. It's a joke. It is a joke. It's
a joke to think that somebody who hasn't done anything,

(01:36:33):
who is capitalizing on the successes of teams in the past,
should be compensated above what is a ridiculously expensive scholarship
in a school that's ridiculously difficult to even get into.
All Right, I thought that worked out. Okay, we gave
you three different topics, three different takes. Here's what we're
gonna get to up coming next. Trent Dilfer is our guest.

(01:36:55):
I'll get his thoughts on Lamar Jackson. Is it okay
to just think, hey, maybe he's not that good? Were
missing something the Lamar Jackson discussion. And we'll get deeper
into quarterbacks like Blake Bortles, who signed a new contract
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He tryning deal for he joins us on the d
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(01:39:05):
in regards to Lamar Jackson, and UM, I want to
start a discussion or go ahead, guys, I'm sorry, I
thought I thought we had it right there. There's a
lot of discussion about Lamar Jackson and his viability as
an NFL quarterback. And uh, some of them you know,
called out Bill Polly and say you know when he said,
hey might be a little small, little thin, and um,
I might think about a position change. What are your

(01:39:28):
thoughts on Lamar at them and developed them. I think
he is a phenomenal talent. He's superior to Michael Vick
at this stage of their careers. Uh, not even close.
And Michael said that, So that's not just my interpretation
of his skill set, that's Michael's as well. Um. The

(01:39:50):
lean frame is a concern. I think it's always a
concern because if you look at all of fame, if
you look at guys with consecutive starts, you guys going
to pro bowls, they thickally have thicker joint structures. Um,
they typically have a little more muscle mass. But that
was also in an era where you could actually hit
the quarterback. You can't hit the quarterback anymore in the pocket. Now.

(01:40:12):
He is a he's a dynamic runner. He's a guy
that's gonna gonna take some shots in the run game.
He took some in college. I think he's also smart
with how he runs the football. Uh, he gets down,
he'll get out of bounds. He can do that even
um more judiciously when he gets to the NFL. But
as a passer, he's pretty darn good. Um, he's one

(01:40:34):
of the few guys in this trap that knows how
to get through a progression. Um. You know, he was
coached really really hard uh Louisville. Um. He had a
very complex middle of the field triangle mesh system that
he read out, didn't always do it great, made some
poor decisions, misread some balls, threw some bad balls. Absolutely,

(01:40:55):
I could see being consistency being a concern. Um. But
if we're going to talk about Josh Allen, who was
also wildly talented, being a top five pick, and we're
gonna talk about Lamar Jackson changing positions, then the whole
world is upside down. Because Lamar Jackson has a boat
load of talent and with the right coach, the right training,

(01:41:18):
the right nurturing. I can see being not just a
good NFL quarterback, but a very good NFL quarterback. But
but you would you would agree, well, first of all,
he the idea of switching positions because he can switch
positions as opposed to Josh Allen cannot. Josh Allen's a quarterback,
whether he makes it or not. And I would agree
with you on the accuracy thing. The thing with Lamar

(01:41:38):
is and you watched him even more than I've watched him,
but I've watched him enough to know they're just some
times in which he throws a football. You're like, where
are you? Where are you going with that? I get
to just air mails throws and I'm sure some of
that is fundamentals. And you talked about consistency. But aren't
we just allowed to not love a guy like we
love other guys. Absolutely, I'm not saying everybody should love him.

(01:42:00):
That you asked my opinion. When I think of I
love him. I love him as a developmental prospect. I
love him in the second third round. If I was
a GM of the team and I had a starting
quarterback and I had a you know, I had a
three to five year plan at the quarterback position. I
think I'd rather draft somebody like him than a corner
that may not pan out, or a defensive tackle that

(01:42:21):
might smoke hisself out of the league, or you know,
a guy's gonna get in trouble. Um, I think there's
a lot of value there. Um. I mean Bratt Hunley,
A lot of people fell in love with him later
on as the draft process wore on as developmental guy,
and I don't. I don't think it's even close in
terms of talent. So I'm not telling everybody should love
Lamar Jackson. I absolutely understand. Some of my best friends

(01:42:43):
are like, listen, just don't buy into and I mean
best friends in the league, like, just don't buy into
a guy that has that kind of um danger as
a runner and that lean of a frame. And I
respect their opinion, um, but I also come from a
homegren tree. Are you always draft when you always develop them?
And if they have talent and they have a thirst

(01:43:04):
to learn and they have a high ceiling that they're
either going to become big time players or you can
trade them. And if they become good players on your roster,
you can trade them for early picks later on. That's
the voice of a trend deal. First Super Bowl champion
quarterback and uh a a champion in terms of breaking
nobody breaks down the quarterback position better. All right, what
about the sudden infatuation with Josh Allen. We've seen the numbers.

(01:43:26):
He's inaccurate now, he's big, and I know he played
with a new group of wide receivers at Wyoming. Uh
But you see draft boards and like most of these
guys who do draft boards, they wouldn't do it unless
they got a tip from a guy in the league
that thinks, you know, he's got he could go one.
What's your evaluation of Josh Allen the prospect? All right,
so first of all, let's talk about that it might

(01:43:48):
be different. You know, the NFL has so many voices
now and there's so many personnel people call them scouts,
call them front office people, UM that have that love
dealing with the media and they leave this type of
stuff and it helps them because it justifies their grades
that they give to people when they're on the road scouting. UM.
Decision makers there's very few UM. I think the decision

(01:44:11):
makers see what I see in Josh Allen, which is
an absolute hoss. I mean this kid. I was out
there in southern California last week with all these guys
and uh spent a couple of days with them, and
I mean it's eye popping physicality. Uh. He is big,
he is athletic, he can bend, he can move. Uh,
he can absolutely rip fire. I get it. You put

(01:44:35):
him in shorts and you're gonna be somewhat in awe
of his physical skill set. Um. I think some of
you know when you look at completion percentage, that can
be deceiving. I'm not saying it's always deceiving. I think
there are reasons. Maybe I wouldn't call him excuses, their reasons.
Sometimes the guy's completion percentages down. My bigger concern is

(01:44:57):
that he grew up in a town people that he
went to school and Laramie, that he's lived a very
small town, small school feel. I think it's all about
fit with Josh Allen and time. I think the worst
thing that could happen to Josh Allen as he goes
somewhere where he's called the savior in a big market
and the pressure of that market becomes the pressure on

(01:45:19):
that organization and he ends up playing too soon. I
had very similar comments about Paxston Lynch. I saw the
talent Paxson Lynch, you got hi an idiot not to
see it, But I didn't see the player. I saw
him as a project. I think Josh Allen, for as
talented as he is, it's still a project. Now. Luckily,
I don't have to decide where to take a project.

(01:45:41):
Um if if you've got time and you can take
him in the top ten picks and you have time
to develop him, and more power to you. Um. But
I don't think we'll see Josh Allen as a superstar
quarterback in the NFL if he's put on the field
within eight you know, within a year and a half,
two years. I think he needs that type of exposure
to an n f old systems, to the culture. It's

(01:46:01):
the bigness. I think he just needs to grow up
as a player. And I'm not saying he's immature until
misunderstand what I'm saying. It's just a very um limited
exposure to big time sports, big time pressure, big time expectations.
But when when Philadelphia has got a guy that seems
to have come through a similar path and maybe even

(01:46:21):
a um you know, smaller or lesser school as a
was an FBS school, and that one worked out. What's
the difference there? It did, And I think he's an outlier.
I think Carson is an outlier for one. And I
think too, I also had time to spend time with
Carson Wentz a lot of time actually before the draft,
and I felt like he was my peer, not somebody

(01:46:43):
I was coaching, not somebody I was mentoring. UM. Mature
beyond his years for whatever reason. Uh, fifth year senior. UM,
incredible conviction in his life. UM, just just why is
beyond his years? And it stood out at I remember
talking to Frank Raik about him years ago when they're

(01:47:03):
evaluating before he went, before Frank was with the Eagles,
just saying that he had never been around a kid
that felt, even though he was twenty two. Just the
way he looked at the world, the way he looked
at football, the way he looked at leadership. UM. And
I think Josh Allen is probably like I was. He's
his age, you know what I mean. And and that's
not a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination,

(01:47:25):
but that that's who he is. It's a it's a
different cat than Carson went um the the Jacksonville Jaguars
have chosen and and look some of it. They had
to write. They got Blake, he's coming off his best year,
but he had the risk surgery. So they were on
the hook for nineteen million, and they restructured it. They
made a three year deal. Feels like a more of
a two year deal than a three year deal. Um My,

(01:47:48):
My thought is, look, they don't think he's great. Otherwise
they wouldn't have taken a knee with what fifty six
seconds to go against the Patriots at the end of
the first half. They they really really believed in him.
But the cost of trying to get somewhere is that
where my team's always took a knee with the minutes ago.
I don't know, you tell me, but that's that's a

(01:48:12):
fair assessment, right, Like you can like we were in
a we're in an actions not words like you can
tell us like, oh, we we believe in Blake. He's
gonna be great. He's great, but like, look, you're on
the road into England, you got him on the ropes
and you choose to take a knee when when your
offense is doing a good job in the first half,
not even take a look at and see if you
can get one first down, to see if you want
to try and push the ball downfield. Right. But but

(01:48:34):
I actually understand and agree with giving him a contract
extension because what are your options out there? Right? You
can't overpay to go getting the Kirk Cousins bidding war.
You know case Keenum. He's got limitations. You're gonna have
to overpay him, and so you get costs certainty, a
guy who you know what, you know his ceiling, you
know his floor. Maybe you you draft a guy you

(01:48:55):
can develop. I kind of understand this, even if they
know they don't have a top fifteen quarterback. Agree with you.
People think we're crazy. I think we're the minority in
this conversation. But I could not agree with you more.
You had to do it, uh the team alone, the
locker room alone. I will use myself as an example.
I don't think I was the best quarterback on free
agency after he won the Super Bowl is coming off

(01:49:17):
for a horrific injury. I didn't play well in the
playoffs stretch and didn't play well in the Super Bowl. Um,
but it would have been a better decision to sign
me than Alvi Skirback. I know you should ask that
as Rod Woodson and Ray Lewis and Shannon Sharp and
all my teammates that were basically revolted when they didn't
resign me. And I think that's kind of what that was,

(01:49:38):
the situation that jacksonvill was in. Blake's earned a lot
of respect for what he's endured. Athletes, as you know,
value grit as much as anything. Um, they can tolerate
a guy that's not as talented makes the mistakes, if
the guy is tough, if the guy has grit, if
the guy's a great locker room guy, if he's your buddy,
if he you know, goes out and buys your beers,

(01:49:58):
if he's wanting to do. Blake has all that. So
I think they had to do that. They got him
at a pretty affordable price, and I think they draft
a guy like Luke fall who from Washington State, who
is a really just a guy that knows how to
pass the It's gonna play the keenom with a little
more physicality and size. Um, he's just a really really

(01:50:23):
good football player that played in a weird spread system.
That's gonna take a couple of years to learn the
NFL game like it's a case a few years. I
think Luke Fawks a perfect pick for Jacksonville. It's not
threatening to Blake. They get him in the second third round. Um.
And now if Blake doesn't turn out, if his ceiling

(01:50:43):
is as low as many people think, and they can't
be consistent, uh, consistent playoff team, then you have a
guy that again you've drafted, you developed, and you fill
as the next quarterbacks for a franchise. And Luke Folk
is very similar to Eli Manning. Uh. And obviously we
know Tom Coflin's making the decisions there and had had
a great run with the Eli Manning. They're very very
similar skill sets. I was gonna ask for a guy

(01:51:05):
that people are talking about. You gave me one, all right,
last one? Baker Um. Some say Russell Wilson, some say
manzell Um. He played in the same system as Case,
you know, coming coming out, and maybe there's a little
bit of all of them in there. What's your take
on Baker to this point system? Fit Um, I I am.

(01:51:28):
I'm enamored like everybody else when you put on the tape,
But you have to understand the college football is in
pro football. They're almost different sports these days. The hash
marks the space seeing the top quality of the delusion
of athletes. I should say at certain positions, taking on
one UM guy in the second area, it was just
a very very different game. Very little was transferable. Um. However,

(01:51:51):
he does some things that you you gotta believe are
going to make in the NFL. I think he's a
guy that has to play in a in a quick
completion fenc He has to have the right quarterback coach
coordinator that gets him that values that. I think of
Drew Brees when he first went to New Orleans and
you know, they threw it forty five times a game.

(01:52:12):
They threw it, you know, fifteen to five to fifteen yards,
a lot of those old West Coast principles. UM, get
the ball out of your hand. I think the one
thing that scares him out Bakers. He's an average he
I don't say average athlete. He's not an exceptional acts yet, No,
but he tries to make exceptional plays extending the play. Uh.

(01:52:35):
That is That's where he could get in a lot
of trouble in the NFL. I think if he's managed,
if he gets the ball out, UM uses his mind
as much as his body. Now, you can overcome the
heights um deficiency. Um, He's got plenty of power. That's
the one thing he's checked the box for me is
he's got the power. He can get the ball over

(01:52:55):
the field. Uh, he can rip it, he can throw
off platform. He can do a lot of things that
the NFL forces you to have to do. Um. But
I don't think he's a guy who's going to extend
the play and make magic in the NFL. He's not
that type of athlete, and that would get him in trouble.
So that's why I'm getting into the system fit. He's

(01:53:15):
not gonna be a turn your back to line of scrimmage,
hard at run action guy, seventh step throwing deep dick.
He's gonna be a shotgun sixty five center center the game.
You got to build a shotgun run game around him.
You gotta change the launch point. You got the line
of scrim and screens, you got the option routes, short crossers,
and then get then take advantage of the second and

(01:53:36):
third levels. If he gets that type of coach, I
think he can right now, and again I'm still doing
the work, but right now I'm bullish on him if
it's the right system. I don't think he has the
man build stuff off the field. I personally love what
he is now. I don't. I think he did some
disrespectful things. I think he did some immature things. I
agree with all that. But I love the fire. I

(01:53:57):
love the juice. I love the energy. I love the offness.
I love the chip on the shoulder. I love the
contraying in him. Some of that again, go to the
whole thing and look at some of those personalities when
there were three years old, a lot of over Baker Mayfield,
Trent Dilford, trying great stuff. Man, love talking ball with you.
We gotta do it again. And by the way, next

(01:54:17):
time you're down in southern California, text your boy. I'll
come out and watch you throw with these guys. Right done.
I will be there a couple of weeks on the show.
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Are Let's welcome to Dan Buyer damn, what's going on? Well,

(01:54:40):
Doug you. New York Times reports yes, that NFL Commissioner
Roger Goodell is planning on finding Cowboys owner Jerry Jones
a seven figure amount for conduct detrimental to the league.
This on the urging of other owners who were not
happy when Jones threatened to sue the league, as Jones
wanted the league to hold off on a contract extension
for Godell. Now there are some report worts is saying

(01:55:00):
that the NFL, including Pro Football Talk dot Com or
Goodell wouldn't have the power to levy such a heavy fine,
but The New York Times says it could be a
seven figure fine headed for Cowboys owner Jerry Jones in
the next couple of weeks. Edward Edward reports, I believe
the NFL is not technically finding the Cowboys owner Jerry Jones,
but seeking repayment for the approximate two million dollars in

(01:55:21):
legal expenses relative to its threats to sue the league.
It's like, look, we're not finding you, but you're gonna
pay for the lawyers that it costs, so that you
because when you threaten to sue us. Yeah, Ian Rappaport
had something of that nature as well from the NFL
Network Rappaport Busy Today's he also broke the news of
the Chiefs are gonna get a second rompic in twenty
nineteen and a fourth rounder in eighteen from the Rams

(01:55:42):
in return for corner Marcus Peters. Multiple reports there the
Dolphins are expecting to trade wide receiver Jarvis Landry, who
will receive the franchise tag. Will no franchise tag for
case Keenum. NFL Network says the Vikings will not use
it on the quarterback, so he likely headed for free agency.
Washington Post reports there will be no finer punner been
for Warrior centers zas A Petulia for falling on Russell

(01:56:02):
Westbrook during Saturday's game in Oakland. Virginia and Michigan State
remained one two in this week's AP Top College Hoops
full Doug Xavier moving up to number three. I saw
the ja if you if you watched from behind the
other basket. Um, I can't remember whose foot it was
on his own team that got caught up on his
knee and pulled it down. Nick Yes, swaggy Pa, Yes, yeah,

(01:56:24):
I mean like, look this is I understand that if
you want to tell me that Ja has been dirty
in the past, or has has been physical to the
point of being during the past. That's fine, But in
this particular play, he wasn't right. And it's Russell Westbrook
massively overreacting and our desire to protect Russell Westbrook when
he's massively overreacting. The film doesn't lie. The film absolutely

(01:56:47):
doesn't lie. It just doesn't. By the way, jaj portulity
is not on the court unless he's suped. This is
like the Matthew del of Adova pushback. Oh he's dirty.
Diving on the floor is not a dirty play. Diving
on the floor is how basketball is taught. You want
to have being for sit you're asking the bench. That's
the only reason Matthew Delvidona makes the NBA. He's not
good enough or quick enough, or or blessed enough to

(01:57:12):
to not play anything other than one percent of his
his toughness and athletic ability. And Jos the same way,
Like I don't think Judge is particularly good, but he's
got to be a little bit tougher, a little bit meaner, screen,
a little bit harder, rebound, a little bit longer. Yeah,
he fouls you, it's hard to play against. Okay, like

(01:57:34):
you don't think Steven Adams fouls the hell out of dudes.
Steve Madams is the strongest dude in the NBA. He
falls on guys. I think we're grossly mischaracterizing this play.
It's embarrassing to people. When you have the footage in
front of you in which Dick Young's foot brings him down,
you're you're questioning it. It doesn't mean that he hasn't
had a dirty play in the past or a super physical,

(01:57:55):
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Porter Moser Barchist and some records aren't meant to be broken.
Chris Street's consecutive made free throws streak was tied by
Jordan Bohannan of the Iowa Hawkeyes. He chose to miss
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(01:59:04):
We'll ask him why well, and why not miss the
one before? So that Chris Street still held the record
by himself. Just questions I have. I will talk to
the Iowa Hawkeyes starting guard tomorrow, but first let's get
to the press. The press. Dan, by what you got, Dan?

(01:59:27):
This whole thing about Yeah, this whole thing, Colin, I know,
this whole thing about Twitter, this whole thing about Twitter.
How about this from Twitter? NFL head of Officiating Al
River n Now on Twitter? Yes, how do you think
that Twitter handle will be amazing? At? Al River? N H.
Did he clear this one of his bosses. Yes, seriously,

(01:59:48):
like like no one's gonna be like good good calling
that Jets game. Al that is never going to happen.
It's uh anyway, I just thought it was I thought
it was interesting. As long as he doesn't do a
Twitter chat that will definitely out no hashtag ask Al river.
N Let's get to some other NFL news. We just
talked about the Jerry Jones millions of dollars that he's

(02:00:11):
gonna likely have to hand over to the NFL after
threatened to sue the league. Well, there's other NFL news
to pass along. The Chiefs are going to get a
second round pick in and a fourth rounder eighteen from
the Rams in return for corner Marcus Peters, according to
the NFL Network. So now we know what Kansas City
is getting in return for the young cornerback. They get
a second rounder in one else and a fourth rounder

(02:00:33):
coming up in this year's draft, and then they they
send him in a sixth round pick. Yeah, something like that,
but a second rounder twenty nineteen. What I heard. The
interesting part was there only two other teams that were interested.
One was the Browns and the other was the Colts. Uh.
That tells you a lot about how the league views
Marcus Peters. The stats tell you he's a great ball

(02:00:55):
hawk corner, but the league sees him as a problem
and somebody who refuses to tell yeah, I also look
at it this way for those that want to criticize
the Chiefs. At some point, you're gonna have to pay
him and the Chiefs I believe we're bottom five and
past defense this past season, so I know it's great
to have a corner, but I I'm just not a
huge fan on a dog. I'd rather pay guys in

(02:01:16):
the front seven than to pay a guy on one
side of the field twenty yards away from Then, again,
all depends how much do you want to be paid
based upon how good you are and how big a
pain in the ass you are, And he's obviously a
pain in the ass. We touched on a little bit.
NBA is saying that the the Washington posting the NBA
won't find Zasaf Petulia for falling out Russell Westbrook of

(02:01:36):
the Thunder during Saturday's game. In fact, Machulia not going
to get any punishment for the act when it looked
like he may have been tripped by Nick Young. Yeah,
I mean I think that the eye and the sky
don't lie. This is a massive overreaction, you know, like
this is in many ways. It's it's like things we
see videos we've seen on Facebook. Once we see other videos,
thing changes. We're about to get underway and one of

(02:01:58):
the I don't know, this weekend one of the better
weeks that we've gotten college or in sports and championship week.
I love Championship Week. Gonna start with a Big ten
tournament and other attorneys going this week, but when the
WCC tournament always goes early. Gonzaga St. Mary's Part three likely. Yeah,
I remember, Doug when you used to call that tournament
down at the slim Gym in San Diego. Yeah, that

(02:02:20):
was when Jason Keep won it. That's a great memory
you have. Jason Keep was the star center the only
time San Diego won the conference tournament championship. That was
He's the only player Brad Holland ever had that didn't
graduate and he was a fifth year senior transfer from
Oklahoma State. By the way, he was most known at
Oaklahoma State for having Big Daddy tattooed in his arm,

(02:02:40):
only it was d a d y. That's awesome. And
that was the Jenny Craig Arena. It's called the Slim Jim. Yeah.
Did you see what happened to Lamont Smith their head coach,
Lamnas head coach of San Diego. He was arrested last
night the airport flying back with the team. Apparently there
was a domestic incident at the hotel involving him and

(02:03:02):
a woman. Um the police came to the hotel and investigate.
He was gone. They go and pick him up at
the airport. They arrest him with his team. They arrested
the head coach. Lamont played there a really good player
by all accounts, like I know him, so I thought
a good guy. Forty two, married, two kids. Woman was
not his wife, by the way. Sho hey O Tani

(02:03:23):
made his spring debut at the Play today for the Angels.
Went one for a one with an RBI and two
walks as he served as the team's designated hitter. Not
too bad. He wasn't great pitching. Maybe he's better as
a hitter because it was a relief pitcher through other
past weekend against Milwaukee and finally Doug. The numbers are
in Honda Classic Ratings up thirty eight percent from a

(02:03:43):
year ago, when the event did not include Tiger Woods,
was on NBC and had Ricky Fowler. Of course, all
those things changed this time around, but a ratings increase
of thirty eight percent for this week's PJA Tour stop
in golf. That is the Tiger effect, and that is
the press. Back it out there and pressed. That was
the press. I love Tiger being good at golf. I

(02:04:08):
really do. Have you missed any we missed Trendilfer, if
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Jordan Bohana tomorrow. Uh, Texas is all banged up last
time I checked. There are ten point dogs at Kansas.
Kansas won their fourteen consecutive Big twelve crown. They will
it will be a crowning achievement. They'll blow him out tonight.

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