Roger Goodell Is NOT Losing His Job

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Boom one Up America Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio Live and direct from the city of
Angels where you have not one but two NFL teams.
I went and saw one in person yesterday afternoon. Not
one but two potential playoff teams in Major League Baseball

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and uh, not one but two potential top five draft
picks at quarterback in the NFL playing in college this year.
We got a lot to offer here here here in
Los Angeles. Um, but one of the things that happened
yesterday in Los Angeles, I was actually attending the Chargers
Seahawks game. Gotta point out how impressed I am with

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the twelfth man showing up. Also will tell you part
of the twelfth man showing up is not just because
I do think that their uniforms are cool and the
football team has been one to which if you're a fan,
you're all in on. They have distinct, kind of vivid
per sonalities on that team. But let's be honest, they've
been among the most successful, the most dominant team in

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the Western United States the past half decade or so.
And that's where all you Seahawks fans with, Hey, this
is not a new jersey. Yeah, it's not like you
were Seahawks fans going back ten fifteen years ago. I
didn't see a lot of Matt hassleback jerseys in the crowd. Still,
I'm at the game, watching the Chargers play their first

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game not sold out, I understand in Carson, which just
the whole thing is just weird and kind of surreal.
There was no huge desire for the NFL to come
to l A to begin with, and then you put
together two teams in l A in two separate years,
and honestly, neither of the team that people kind of wanted, right.

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I mean, if the Raiders came to town tomorrow and
played in the in the middle of the desert, or
played somewhere off beaten Path, they would draw far, far
and wide more attention than the Rams and the Chargers combined.
That said, I'm at the game, and I didn't realize
that Michael Bennett was protesting. Michael Bennett, star defensive end

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for the Seattle Seahawks. I wasn't watching the Raiders preseason game,
but apparently Marshawn Lynch also did not stand up for
the national anthem, to which I learned that marsha Marshawn
Lynch didn't stand up for the Nashal anthem during most
of the last eleven years of his career, and so
when you couple that coming off of what was just

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an awful weekend in Charlottesville, awful, awful. Um, I understand
how anyone can make a I do in this case
if I don't know what each is political statement was,
or if there wasn't a statement, just they're in discussed

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with the progress or lack thereof, or in many ways
is it felt like regression in our country over the weekend.
I don't know why they chose to set him in
the h have said kind of why but whatever, Um okay,
But I think in totality it takes away from Colin

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Kaepernick's argument or the argument made by some as to
why Colin Kaepernicks not in the NFL. It's Doug Otlip
Show Fox Sports Radio really quickly because because others have
been unable to do so. Yes, I am anti Nazi
and anti Confederate flag. Having just returned from Israel about

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three weeks ago, three weeks ago, I can tell you
what the Nazis did to my real people, of my religion,
what they did too, even some of their own countrymen,
what they did to Gypsies, what they did to Gaze,
what they did to Muslims. If you actually crack a
history book, it's the most disgraceful era in the history

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in the in the modern history of war. Um. And
anyone who is foolish enough to flat to flash that
flag and think that it's not going to be a
great met with great energy, great resistance obviously thinks that
we are supposed to pretend we don't remember history. And
Confederate flag guy, Sorry, you're the same thing, Like, hey,

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take the l dude, you lost a long time ago.
We've moved on, and you can tell me it's about
your some southern heritage thing. That's there's that's fine. You
can try and make the same argument about the swastatia
being about some sort of German heritage, all right, when
it when it is a sign of oppression and frankly,

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a literally in the swastika. And I don't I don't
want to get in this discussion, but I don't know.
You're sitting at home, You're like, this is this is
our country, summer man, right, we're getting ready for football
I just want to talk about football, damn it. I
want to talk The Angels are my baseball team. I

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have no idea how they are right now tied to
go to the Wild Cards, like I have no idea zero,
I have zero clue, Like Mike Trout and a bunch
of other stuff, there's no possible logical reason that they
and they're playing great. I'd love to talk about the Dodgers.
Do they won this weekend? Have you seen what they've done?

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But instead, here we are kind of reacting to um
a disgraceful protest in Charlottesville and what happened after that,
And we're reacting to two football players who have had
very good careers, and I guess I'm supposed to say, well,
these guys, let's listen. First. Here's Michael Bennett after the

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game yesterday, when asked why he didn't stand for Nahville
where everything has been going on in the last couple
of months, and especially after the last couple of days,
sitting everything in Virginia and someone's going on out there
earlier today in Seattle. UM, I just wanted to be
able to use my platform to be able to continues
to speak on injustice. I love the military. I love

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my father was in the military. I love I love
hot dogs like any other American. I love football like
any other American. But I don't love segregation. I don't
love right, so I don't love um. I'm Christian, I
don't know love. I love gender slant on, and I
just I just want to see people who have the
equality that they that they deserved. Okay, I mean, like, look,

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we have to make sure we can textualize what happened
with Colin Kaepernick when he protested as opposed to Michael
Bennett was like, look, I haven't paying attention to all
the stuff going on, and I just want to use
my platform, which I've actually I always support. I've never
been a stick to whatever guy because if if it was,
I would only be allowed to talk about basketball because

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I was a basketball guy. Right, Like, don't get me wrong,
you still have your wheelhouse and things that you're an
expert in, and Michael Bennett knows and forgotten more about
playing defensive line in football than I'll ever know. But
I also think that if you can be a thoughtful
human being and bring your own perspective to a discussion,
you know why can't sports guy talk about non sports. Right,

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So wait, we leave politics to just the politicians, why
politicians having them shown themselves to be worthy of of
of being alone in that discussion to begin with. Right,
So we should allow any sort of other person on
the street is allowed to speak on something a topic
that they might not be educated on, as opposed to
an athlete. Now, look, the problem with Kaepernick was when

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he protested, what he said after he protested, and why
he was protesting, and I know it was a hot
button issue. I remember all the things that happened in
the summer before last year when he took a knee
at the national anthem, And just just so you know,
when you don't stand up for the national anthem, like Mike,
my son and I were there and national anthem, take
off your hat, it's respectful. Put it over your heart,

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you know, if you know the words, sing it. If
you don't pay attention to look at the flag, That's
how I teach my son I do. I having traveled
abroad even this summer, I can tell you there's flaws
in our country. Not close still the greatest cruntry ever,
nothing like to descend or nothing like walking off that
plane and seeing old goatlry. But we're not perfect. And
if your way to say we're not perfect is hey,

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I'm not going to stand from the national anthem. I
disagree with it, but I'd like to hear what you
have to say. Two things. One, Kaepernick, when he took
a knee, said that cops were murderers and they're walking
the street, and that language still rings, still resonates in
many police officers ears, resonates in my ears. And I remember,

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I know what he's talking about. Okay, he did, he
had the pig sucks. Okay, it was different. He offered
no discussion. He wanted no discussion about either of the
either the presidential candidates. Instead, I wanted to try and
stay kind of a political even though he was in

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the middle of a political debate. And even now as
he has done a lot of good works on the
back of his probably protest, he hasn't used that platform
to continue to push his costs. Instead, people don't know
like he's he said, if he signs with the team,
he's not gonna kneel for the national anthem, Like why
why are things so much better now? Why have things
changed so much? Tell us, lead us if you're going

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to start a movement, well then you have to see
it all the way through. But more than anything, the
reason that Bennett and that Marshawn Lynch, I think, whether
it's reality or perception, perception oftentimes becomes a reality. Why
they're protests hurt Kaepernick is they're not gonna lose their

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job over it. And look, Marshawn's a pain the ass.
Ask anybody there's a reason he was Buffalo and then
he's in Seattle, and Seattle he was just quirky enough
to work at that particular time. Ever, he dived into
the end zone and grab his nuts, which is like
it's funny, but it's because it's Marshawn right, Like he
can got to get away because like it's Marshawn and

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whether or not he sticks and it's the starting running
back for the Raiders as they're pushing for doesn't have
anything to do with the protests and it is the Raiders.
They're able to do things because but it's can he
play if he still has juice in the tank, he'll
be on the Raiders. He'll be getting the football on
the one yard line to win playoff games or win
a Super Bowl. Same thing with Michael Bennett can really play.

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And while I do think that there's a portion of
hesitation in signing Kaepernick because of the protest and the
Viscerer reaction to his language in discussing the protests and
the pig socks and things like in the castors, he
shut all that stuff. There's also major questions about whether
or not he can play, how much he wants to,

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how much he wants to make when playing, what type
of opportunity he needs in order to sign that contract.
And while Bennett and Marshawn may on some levels be
sewing solidarity towards Kaepernick, they're really hurting the argument that
Kaepernick's only not in the NFL because of the protest,

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Malcolm Jason still in the NFL and fascinating weekend. They'll
be studying in history books. Unfortunately, they'll be probably laughing
at at to how we've acted or feel sad for us.
Um Baylor football was the doormat of the Big Twelve.

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They were the laughing stock at the Big Twelve. They
were one win a year in football, two wins a
year in basketball, and all of that changed over the
last decade. Basketball Scott Drew has led it to being
cooming a dominant program. Women's basketball's a dominant program, and
up until last year, Baylor football was very close. I

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mean they hadn't broken through to a BCS Bowl game,
but they were close. We know what led to and
what continues to uh, what continues to be discussed about
Baylor football. Matt Rule came in after rebuilding Temple's football program.
He's their new coach. What was he left with? How
hard is it to recruit? How good can they actually be?

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What was it like rebuilding Baylor football? Will ask their
new head football coach. He joins us. Next in the
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You want to get in touch with us eight seven
seven six three six nine eight seven seven six three
six nine. Um. Look, I'm a big twelve guy. I
played at Oklahoma state. I've covered the league. I've been

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a fan of the league since going to still at Oklahoma,
so I I remember how bad Baylor football was. But
this is a different kind of build that Matt Rule
has to go through. And here's a guy who um
while he's you know, recruited players and has staff members

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from the state of text and a really good job
and loading up his staff from guys with ties to
Texas like he in a Texas you know, and his day.
He was at Temple from oh six until two thousand
and twelve. We spent a year with the Giants, then
returned to Temple as their head coach and did an
outstanding job. Chapter remember what Temple was before he took

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over Temple, Like Temple was so bad that they got
booted out of the Big East Football. Big East Football
used to have Virginia Tech, used to have UM Miami
in it, and uh, Temple football was was the level
of awful to which they weren't allowed in that league anymore.

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And then Rule, I don't, rebuilt them from scratch to
where they were kind of a dominant team in the
American which after the Big East broke up, caught some
of the cat caught some of the teams from the
old Big East Football Conference, So I'm gonna be interesting
what he does and how the assimilation to the state

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of Texas, to Waco, to Baylor's culture, establishing your own culture,
putting together a staff, and rebuilding a football program. How
long that day. What's weird though, is again like as
a Big twelve guy, I tell people all the time,
it ain't the best conference, no, no, no, no. I
the best conference in terms of the depth of athletic

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talent is still the SEC. But you got incredible skill
position players, quarterbacks, wide receivers, dvs and uh and oftentimes
running backs an occasionally alignment or two. Matt Roll joins
us in the Doug Gotlieb Show. He's the new head
coach at Baylor. I'm sure chomping at the bit to

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have his team hit somebody that isn't wearing about Baylor.
Helmet coach, how are you good? Uh? Well better than
the administrator? Who was the dude who who who beat
the tackling dummy then lost to the tackling dummy. Was
it Sean Patton? That was? That was my boys? Sean Padded.
Uh So, for people who haven't seen the viral video,
we'll tweet it out. Most people in sports have seen it,

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but described this what day of camp is this that
you decided to have one of your administrators race one
of those electronic tackling dumbies. Well this, you know, this
was last week and this was you know, we're about
ten or fifteen days and the kids are, you know,
trying to find some trying to find a little juice.
So at the end of walk through, we said, you know,
if the team had to pick if they thought Sean
could win or win or lose versus the robot, and

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if they picked correctly, you know that I would I
would make curfew later that Saturday night, and they voted
against Sean, So you know that was sort of a
slap in his face. So when he beat the dummy,
that's why he kind of stood up so proudly because
he you know, he answered the call, only the only
to get sucker punched by the by the dummies he did.
What's what's this been like? For you? Like, I know, um,

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when you when you take the job, you think you
know what you're getting. But now that you've been on
the job and you've gone through a training camp and
you're starting to assimilate to to Waco and with your
new staff. What's actually been like, you know, it's been fun. Um,
the kids are you know, the kids are competitive, they're tough.
They've done all the things we've asked them to do
off the field. So it's been fun. Now coming off

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the summer, coming off the spring, to get into training
camp and you sort of have sort of have some
on field time with them, and you know, this is
something that we all love football, so to to have
some time to try to help them get better and
try to build a team and try to get ready
for this first game. We're really having a good time
and we're getting used to our surroundings. I'm trying to
get used to a New York City guy like me,
trying to get used to this Texas heat. That's probably

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been the biggest transition for me. Well, the good thing
is that you don't need any any closer snow, right
unless you guys, uh, you know, need closest. Now, there
there could be some ice storms, um and uh and
I'm and I'm sure the cost of living doesn't doesn't
suck at all. Matt Rule joining us on The Doug
Gotland Show. How do you how do you give credit
to the previous regime, not Jim grown, but previous to

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Jim taking over his interim coach last year. How do
you give credit without linking into the stuff off the field,
Like that's because it was a really good football program
and they did kind of change the dynamic of college
football and how they played and build thing Baylor from scratch.
How do you do that without linking in some of
the stuff that led to the changes. Well, you know,

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I think you just you give credit were credits to do,
and you compartmentalize it and you find all the positive
things that happened. I mean for all these kids now,
you know, for our senior class, they've been a part of,
you know, a Big twelve championship. They've been part of
a really really successful program, and so um, you know,
we don't ever want to walk away from that. You know,
we don't want to shy away from that. We want
to you know, talk about all the good things these

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kids have done. You know, I I go back and
I study all of you know, all the old schedules
and practice plans and the way that they did things,
because at the end of the day, they found a
way to win at Baylor, and they found a way
to be really really successful at Baylor from a football perspective.
And so, you know, like any good coach, you know,
you you you study the people that have found a
way to do it and found a way to do
it at your school. And so, um, you know, I

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don't think one has to be exclusive of the other.
I don't think that we can talk about football and
that doesn't we don't have It doesn't mean that we're
talking about anything else. I mean, it's it's a it's
a it's a coach's job to figure that out. Okay,
So I'm the number one question when you walk around
Wake Goo, you get asked. I'm gonna ask you, where
are you with the quarterback? You know what? Um, I
don't even know. I mean because both kids, I mean,

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we have too senior and a returneing sophomore. They're both
playing so well right now and you know they're they're
battling out and I like the way they're doing it.
We have a freshman that's a really good player as well.
So the good news is we have I know we're
going to have a quarterback. I'm just not sure who
what's going to be and probably won't make that decision,
you know, just to be fair for about another week
or so. What's the process like in instituting your culture, Like,

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how do you go about? Hey, listen, I we instute.
You were at Temple for a long time, you went
related to the NFL, came back and built that program
into one not more than just a little bit competitive
in the American which anybody who knows anything about Temple,
that was a miraculous job that you guys were able
to do. So you you bring Hey, listen, I've seen
good culture in the NFL. I've seen it in college football.
I want to institute it and I want to evolve

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what we have here. How do you have you personally
done that? I think I think it goes back to
your first question. You never never, you know, demeaning or
or disrespecting anything that's happened previous because it's been successful.
But it's it's always talking about why, you know, And
so I say, hey, guys, we're gonna do it this
way and this is why. And sometimes I'll say it
might be wrong, I mean, but it's the only way
I know. It's the way I've learned and it's just

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my way of doing things. So I think when you
have that type of honesty, when you're when you're real,
when you explain to them this is what we're doing,
this is why we're doing it. We're always trying to
find examples of how it will benefit them personally and
as a team. Um, you know a lot of things
we talk about are you know, to make them the
best men and to make them you know, hopefully NFL
players as well, and so you know, there might be
something that we haven't done, they haven't done previously, and

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we're saying, listen, you need to do this because when
you're in training camp, it's you know, for what the
Atlanta Falcons is gonna benefit you this way. And so
I think when you understand the why and if if
you get it, then then you'll do basically anything that
someone asks you to do. I was told that one
of the reasons you got the job was that your
defensive system that you're uh that that some of the
things that you've employed defensively was you understand how to

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compete against these spread offenses. And that's it's one of
the things that you kind of get how how different
is it? And look You've been around this thing a
long time, right, Like you're going back almost twenty years
in this How different is defensive football now, especially when
you're in the Big twelve, when everybody is spreading you out.
I mean if night and day. You know, my defensive coordinator,

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Phil snow I was his g A and two thousand
at U C l A and we had like four
defenses and now you know we have to have close
to thirty. And it's you know, the rules have changed,
the athletes have you know, are just getting better and better.
The quarterbacks are unreal to the schemes, and you know,
they put you in a lot of conflicts and that
that that weren't even you know X and those wise

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that weren't even in existence just a few years ago. So, um,
you had better be really multiple. You had better have
kids that really understand not just what you're doing, but
why you're doing it. You better play a lot of
guys because of tempo, and so we've had to make
a lot of changes to sort of keep up with
offenses because offenses, especially in this league are prolific. Well,
you mentioned you got to play a lot of guys
when you take over a program. Him that's going through

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some nci A stuff and off the field stuff. That's
that's the biggest that's the biggest challenge. How do you
navigate that that you might have issues. When do those
issues with depth come up and become problematic for you? Well,
you know, I mean we're hoping, we're hopeful that they don't,
you know, but you never know. I mean, we're just
gonna have to be willing to play young players. And
I think that's one of the good things when you
you know, you go hire a guy that was in
the American Conference, you know, because when you're in that conference,

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I mean, you know what, you're gonna have to play
some freshmen and some sophomores. You know, you don't you
don't always have the luxury because you know, you're not
recruiting all four and five star kids. That when you
get a really good young player, you have to get
them ready to play. You know, you have to be
willing to you find a great walk on, you have
to you know, get something out of them and you
can be ready to play. And so you become very
solution oriented. And that's what we did at my time
at Temple. So you know, when we went out on

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the road to recruit, we said, listen, there's you know,
where some people might see adversity, we see a tremendous
opportunity for you to come in and have a chance
to play early and have a chance to compete. And
you know that's that's that's the way we practice. You know,
we practice a lot of guys so that when your
turns called, and they're it's gonna be called every game,
you know, we're gonna play just a lot a lot
of kids handle the tempo. You've mentioned you hadn't decided
on a quarterback. What and look you lost number one

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and number two wide receiver from last year, So what
about offense? You know, when when people think of Baylor,
they think of the tempo, they think of the offense
in the Big twelve, we know they were basically running
kind of like veer inside the tackles and then obviously
spreading you out and and going one on one outside
outside the tackles. How how similar or dissimilar is what
you're going to do be to what they've done there

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for the last decade. You know, I think in some
ways will be very similar, just because of the personnel.
You know, we have it's this the fastest collection of
receivers and running backs I've ever even when I was
in the NFL, that I've ever seen, and so to
to slow them down, you know, wouldn't wouldn't be good
coaching in my mind. So we'll we'll still be pretty
spread out though that we will have some pro style
elements and uh, you know, we will have a fullback

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that you know occasionally gets in and we'll have to
do some things that maybe they haven't done quite as much.
But you know, I think the biggest difference will be,
you know, the tempo, and I don't think we're gonna
be a true tempo team, and that to me goes
back to, you know, it's really hard to be great
on defense when when you're playing you know, ninety plays
a game on defense, and so you know, we want
to slow the game down a little bit and and
make make sure that our defense is on the field

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for less than seventy plays. That's sort of our goal.
And so that will be the major change. But in
terms of schematics and and what we look like, I
think they'll be more similarities than not. That's interesting because
there there's you know, it's it's like a you make
one of two decisions when you're playing in that league.
Either you try and not play tempo and play fewer stabs,
or you try and play the style of defense where
you take a bunch of chances and try and get turnovers.

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No wing, you're gonna give up points, but then your
offense is gonna be back in the field. Like that's
really kind of the two non Texas and Oklahoma where
they have greater depth kind of schools of thought. Matt
Rule joining us in the Doug Gottlieb show you mentioned
coming from the American there's the story Jerry DeNardo told
me he was at He was at Vanderbilt, which is
in the SEC, and they took the L. S U job,
And he told me, after like his first day touring
the facilities and talking to potential recruits, he called his

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wife at home and said, I have no idea how
we thought we could ever beat L. S U. When
I was at Vanderbilt. When you when you get to Baylor,
you two are the facilities, you start to see the
caliber of athletes that that you have left behind. Isn't
it kind of mind blowing being there? How different the
levels can be in terms of facilities and resources and athletes,
even though you're all both playing Division one football. Well,

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I think I think it really shows up for us,
you know, because we had a we had a bunch
of NFL kids at table. But I think that really
shows up, and you hit it right on the head.
Is just just the resources and the people. And you know,
there's there's so many people that come to work every
single day at Mailor University and the athletic department that
are there to help and that there to help our
student athletes, not just football, but all all sports and
all athletics. And so you know, sometimes when you're at

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lower levels and I've been Division three, I've been one
Double A and then eventually group of five. Um, you know,
as a coach, you're doing a lot of that. You know,
you're the guy that's making sure things are ready. You're
the guy that's making sure there's enough ice and the
gatorade machine. And and then all sudden you get somewhere
here and you have you know the best of the
vest in terms of facilities and people and and um,
you know, it lets you focus on the things that
are important, which is developing the student athletes and and

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sort of working together as a team. You know, I
just think coming to Texas, UM, just the level of
speed that you know, the track athletes that are here
and the athletes that are here in the level football
has been played for a long time. You know, I
just never thought I'd coached this fast of a team.
And that's in no way a shot. You know my
previous school, which we had great, great players, that's really
just a lot of credit to the kids that are
here in Texas. Baylor. Yeah, no, you had you know,

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three draft picks last year playing for by the way,
you had twenty and seven last two years dominating the
American you know, fourteen I think when we were fourteen
and two combined your conference record. Right, So, what's what's
reasonable if I if I was a reasonable Baylor football fan,
what's a reasonable expectation for your first year in wake up? Um?
You know what? Um? You know, I'm kind of one
of those coach safe and you know, I studied coach

(26:42):
Saban process oriented guys. You know, I, UM, I'm hopeful
that we just are become a good football team. You know,
I point out to our kids, you know, we were
three and six from the Big twelve last year, you know,
seven and six overall, and really a lot of that
came down to penalties and turnovers and just you know,
being a team that sometimes beat itself. And so you know,
my goal is just to be a really clean, disciplined,
good playing football team, and so I think if we

(27:04):
do that, we can win a lot of football games.
We have really good players. You know, we have some
depth issues. We have some really young offensive freshman offensive linemen.
We're gonna probably have to start well, that's not ideal.
I think it bowes well for the future. But you know,
if we can get through this first year setting a
standard for the brand of football that we play tough, physical,
hard nose, a team that doesn't beat itself, then I

(27:24):
think a lot of success lays ahead. The most important question,
will you raise the tackling dummy? You know, I'm gonna
tell you what, I don't know if I could beat
it so on once Sean be that I gave up
on it. There's you know, if I lose them, that
that could go viral, at least amongst our teams. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna let him be the star right now,
and I'm just gonna stick to my slow jog every
other afternoon. Well, listen, best of luck in the in

(27:45):
the job obviously, it's one that comes with a ton
of resources and a ton of people who want to
see you succeed. We really appreciate you spending some time
with this year on Fox Sports Radio. Appreciate all right.
That's Matt Rule, the new head coach at Baylor taking
on a mighty challenge une but one to which they
have one there before. Unfortunately, you know the story, who

(28:06):
goes because of what happened off the football field, and
it takes away from the turnaround that happened on the
football One of the biggest stories in the NFL right now,
But there's one part that's kind of getting blown out
of proportion. I'll share that with you after we find
out what's trending. This story comes to you from MMQB

(28:31):
dot com by Peter king uh. Peter King writes, this
story can go so many ways, but the first thing
I thought when I heard about the Zeke Elliott Band
was the future of Roger Goodell and his first eleven
years as commissioner, Goodell had has had in my estimation,
five major influential owners as cornerstones of his power base

(28:51):
Pittsburgh's Dan Rooney, Carolina's Jerry Richardson, Jerry Jones of Dallas,
Robert Craft of New England, and the Giants John Mara
Rune he died this year. Richard sin Adie one is
declining influence. Jones, as Adam Schefter reports, is furious with
the Commissioner for the Elliott suspension, as I believe he
thinks the commissioner is too suspension happy. Craft is still

(29:13):
wounded over the Bradys suspension and verdict. Mara steal in
Goodell's corner rock solid. I believe that's quite a change
from his power base. But is it so? The idea is,
like will Roger Well Roger Goodell lose his job over
the Jerry Jones thing? Like Jerry Jones is mad because
they may have they they suspended Zekei Elliott on Friday,

(29:37):
As I think most of you know, I hosted Colin
Cowhard show The Herd on Friday. Like, my my first
thing is when I hear domestic violence. I would just
like us all to take a breath and realize, Like, honestly,
I kind of think the Ray Rice video is a
good one too. Like, that's what it looks like. It's
not always that violent. Sometimes it's even it gets escal

(30:00):
leaks and gets even worse. But that's what it looks like.
It's disgraceful for a man to hit a woman. Um.
I also think that, Look, there's the offer up the
possibility that much like the Tom Brady case, the NFL
overstepped in. The NFL did not have the evidence that
they believe that they have. Like, I don't think tom

(30:24):
Brady did anything wrong. I don't do. I think they
inflated or reinflated the footballs probably. I also think they
did so because Tom Brady liked the football is a
certain way. Do I think he ordered the code read?
I don't. Um, there's text messages out there between this woman, uh,

(30:44):
the the victim, alleged victim and her friends. UM and
Ezekiel's dad has come out and said that there is evidence,
and of course a lawyers have come out come out whatever. Look,
I am not capable personally of hitting a woman. I'm
I'm not capable of doing I don't have that capability within.

(31:05):
And I would also like to think, like I'd like
to believe, goodness of heart, that somebody would not say
they were hit by somebody else, especially a woman saying
hit by a man, and make it up. I would
like to believe that all rape victims are in fact
grape victims, But sometimes people lie. It's not a high
percentage of times, and those people that lie do far

(31:28):
more damage to other women than they ever thought in
the moment to which they might have good reason to lie.
It might be a super toxic relationship and it's their
cry for help, and there may have been mental abuse, whatever.
But my first thing when there's domestic violence case, I

(31:51):
just I don't think we got we should immediately go
my fantasy football team is screwed, or throw up the
Cowboys schedule, Like, man, what are they gonna do this year?
Was the record gonna be right? Like? I just that's
the wrong tact, wrong tactic. Wrong. It doesn't mean you're
not going to have that discussion. Doesn't mean that your
mind can't go there. It eventually will. It's just like

(32:13):
I don't think the first time you hear it, you
should think she's lying. Not healthy. But as the evidence
starts to come out, if you read the NFL side,
fairly pretty damaging. If you start to hear some of
his side, you start to wonder, Wait a second, is
this legitimate. I think the conversation that you have between

(32:38):
Roger Goodell and UM and Jerry Jones is an honest one,
which is very simple. What do you want me to do?
You know, we suspended Ray Rice for two games, which
is the longest suspension the history of the league for
domestic violence. And people saw the video and wanted me fired,

(32:59):
wanted to live, burned to the ground. I spent a
guy two games or something that was handled by the
by the criminal courts with a deferred pre with a
pre trialed diversion, visionary hearing or something. Right, like, the
criminal justice system views this in a completely different way

(33:19):
than how we view it in our in our own
kind of you know, Twitter justice, Right, I suspended him,
but I guess I didn't suspend him long enough. Now,
we blackballed him, but then we had to come up
with a new policy and it's six games, and oh yeah,
by the way, like, look, this is what happens. For example,
we just had Matt Ulan right now. Matt Rule has

(33:40):
never been accused of any ethical misconduct ever. Ever, he
wouldn't have gotten that job had they not done their
due diligence and found any sort of Remember, he had
two assistant coaches that they had to early on had
to jettison. The point is that when you come in,
you follow the mess that was left behind at Baylor.

(34:02):
The most powerful people on campus, our compliance and basically
your HR people in this case Title nine on a
campus because of what the previous regime is it was
alleged to have done right. Well, that's what's happening in
the NFL, like there was such a visceral reaction towards
the great how the handling and Greg Hardy, the handling

(34:25):
of what's the kicker from the giants Josh Brown? And
and by the way, I I think I'm maybe alone.
I think Josh Brown was done wrong. I do because
we don't know what he meant in his journal, which
was supposed to remain private. But nonetheless, we chose to
punish somebody for something that we don't actually know what

(34:47):
actually happened. We wanted justice, and so now he's out
of the league. But um, what ends up happening is
if you Jerry Jones sits down, Roger Goodell and Jerry
Jones can be mad as you want, like, hey, Jerry,
I appointed somebody else. This is not I took it

(35:09):
away from my desk and gave the power to a
former prosecutor. She conducted the investigation. If I get her investigation,
and she thinks it's more probable than not that something happened,
that Ezekiel did something to this girl, and I bury
that I get fired. Okay, I am the laughing stock
of professionals, Like, I'm gone. You can't do that, Jerry.

(35:33):
Don't you remember what happened when we we try to
investigate ray Rice and we suspended ray Rice, and then
the video came out and we didn't do enough to
get the video. Now, we might have done too much,
We might have overstepped our purview. But okay, that's what
we risk. If you don't think bygones, become bygones. The

(35:57):
New England Patriots had their first preseason game at home
last week. Do you know who was there? Roger Goodell?
You know who'll be there when they kick off the season,
Roger Goodell. At the end of the day, he's making
them a lot of money, and he's doing his best
to try and keep all thirty two owners happy. And
even if five were more powerful than others. I think

(36:19):
he is out in the you're mad at me? Is
time heals all wounds. I'm still fill in your pockets.
And thirty one other owners agreed with my move to
suspend your player. Leonard Fournette could be missing time in
the preseason. Big deal, little deal, no deal. I'll tell
you next what True Car You can find out what

(36:40):
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(37:02):
Here's Isaac low and Crown as he looks inside my
last god lead sack. Alright, Isaac, I only gave you
about a minute and fifteen. Here, what do you got?
What game do we play today? Good afternoon, Doug. I
have been diligently digging around your sack. It is a
pleasure to be with you. And here is what I found.
A big deal, little deal, no deal? All right? Today

(37:25):
that Jacksonville Jaguars aounce that they'll be holding rookie running
back in number four overall Draffick Leonard four Nette out
of Thursday's game against Tampa Bay due to a sore foot.
Big deal, little deal or no deal. I it's a
big deal. I don't like sore feet, Okay, I don't.
Your dogs can be tired, but your dogs can't be hurting.
Remember you said the NFL was a little slower than

(37:45):
I thought it'd be. I thought it would be. He
had eight yards in that game, averaging as long as carry.
Excuse me, was eight yards. Um, but sore feet usually
mean foot problem. There's hundreds of bones in your hands
and feet. I don't want any problems with any of them.
That seems to be a big deal for this rookie
he was expected to produce right away. Today is Lakers

(38:06):
president of basketball Operations Magic Johnson's fifty eighth birthday. Now
among those sending birthday wishes Cleveland Cavaliers superstar Lebron James,
who tweeted, quote, happy birthday, Magic Johnson. One of the
few that's always showed love from day one to me.
Thank you unquote. Could be perceived as an innocent birthday greeting,

(38:28):
but could also be perceived as a subtle message with
an eye towards next summer. Big deal, little deal or
no deal. I'm gonna go a little deal little deal.
Probably popped up in his Facebook page reminding him of
his magic's birthday. That was Scott lead Sack, very condensed
version of the Sack. We'll get the Lowan loan crown

(38:49):
in uh later on in the Show with the Press.
David Shaw, head coach of Stanford, will join the show.
Up coming next. I'll get his his thoughts, his reaction
to Josh Rosen, another Pack twelve player, his comments about
school and football not mixing. Obviously that's one of the
big challenges at Stanford. Plus, I mean, we know what

(39:09):
we're gonna expect from Stanford, right, same thing, student by left,
student body right. But it seems like the pressure is
off Stanford to produce instead. Now is back on USC
We'll catch up with David Shaw. He'll join us next
in the Doug Gotlic Show Fox Sports Radio. What Up,
It's Stug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. Coming to you

(39:30):
from the City of Angels, getting you ready for football season.
And while you may think, hey, all we have is
preseason football, and then we got a couple of weeks
before h college football starts. Think about it. If you
were the Stanford Cardinal, they're gonna take on the Rice
Owls in Sydney, Australia. And what's called a week zero game, right,
week zero game, which means it doesn't is special rules

(39:52):
to it. There's a lot of other kind of new
rules in college football. No two days anymore. So let's
catch up with David Shaw, head coach at Stanford Cardinal. Uh,
they get to to head down I think next Saturday
to Sydney to take on the Owl's coach joins this
year on the Doug Galley Show. Next Saturday, you guys
head down? Correct? Yeah, a few days from now. Um? Okay,
So so how has this Yeum, let's let's let's let

(40:16):
me let me kind of rise my level of intelligence here.
What's your level of preparedness for the season this year
as opposed to previous years, no two days and earlier
game than in years in the past. Well, I think
the big thing for us is revamping our entire training
camp schedule to a comedy for having no two day practices,
and lots lustom has been said about two day practices.

(40:38):
I think there's a way to do them intelligently. To
keep your team healthy and safe, but at the same
time train them for what is a long and growing
football season. Um, but no two days this year, so
we had to be very smart about how we did it,
and I think our guys did really, really well. Um,
we still scrimmaged, we still did a lot of things
that were physical, and we gave him a day off
and we took care of him as well. So I

(40:59):
think we're we're pretty we're pretty well prepared to start
getting into game plans a lot of a lot of
a lot more full speed reps, is what I read
that you guys, you guys uh us, that is that accurate? Well,
we we were smart about it and that we we
tried to scrimage before the day off so that we
could recover the day off, and then the first day
after the day off, we you know, don't put the

(41:20):
full full gear on and we kind of want greased
him back up before we we get back to kind
of being physical again. So it's really about being smartest.
It's not just about you know, banging these guys together,
but at the same time, making sure that we get
enough physical we have enough meeting time, we have enough
walk throughs to make sure guys know what they're what
they're supposed to do. Um, okay, so David Shall joining

(41:41):
us in the Doug Gotlicia. What about Keller Chris last
time we saw him, he heard his knee Sun Bowl. Uh,
there was some talk in the off season that they
didn't know, you guys didn't know whether or not he'd
be ready. He's go and he he's he looks great,
he feels great. We anticipated maybe giving him a day
off or you during the course of training camp. Um,

(42:02):
he said, no swelling, he said, no setbacks. Um, he
looks and I can't wait to watch him game one.
That's that's really amazing. Now, of course you have to
replace Christian McCaffrey, who didn't play in that Sun Bowl,
and he showed kind of the supporting cast. What's that
gonna like? What what's the what's the kind of game
planning that's gonna massively change because you guys were able
to smartly use him in so many different facets. What's

(42:25):
that gonna be like for you getting ready for the
game against Rice. Well, the biggest thing is that it's
going to take about four different guys to do what
Christian did. By himself. Um, Bryce loves and now standing
running back. You know, Christian is two games last year
and Bryce rush for a hundred yards and both of
those games. Um, he's an explosive, quick, agile guy that
actually runs physical between the tackles as well. But at
the same time, I think you'll see the ball get

(42:46):
spread around a little bit more. Um. I think you'll
see our receivers make more plays and j j Arsaga
Whiteside and Trenton Irwin. Our tight ends will be more involved,
led by our senior captain, their Dalton Schultz. UM. So
I think we've got a good group of guys. I
think we can absorb of all of those uh touches
that Christian McAffrey is leaving for the rest of those guys. Now,
last year, remember you beat Kansas State, then you guys

(43:07):
had a week off and then you beat USC to ten.
There's some similarities here. Obviously. Now you're playing in Australia
and then you have the week off coming back, there
is some similarities in having that week off. Do you
I mean, I mean, I guess you have to like it,
but do you like that and get ready for your
first Pack twelve game against the team favorite, the favorite
to win their side of the pack twelve in USC. Uh. Yeah,

(43:31):
I think I'm excited about our players are excited about it.
I think the Sydney trip is going to be phenomenal.
We're gonna teach it and treated just like a bowl game.
You know. The first couple of days there, we're gonna
kind of we're gonna go to the zoo, We're gonna
go to the beach. We're gonna do some cultural exchange
things with the people Australia, and um, they're excited to
host us and have us and I can't wait. UM.
And after about the third day, we'll really kind of
batten down the hatches and get ready to play football

(43:52):
game and UM treat this game. We're gonna try to
go out there and win. UM. And then the good
thing is coming back with that bye week, uh, you know,
the first three days and let our let our guys
to be completely off, help them try to get back
on the proper sleepy sleep cycle of a West Coast
time zone. UM. And then we'll start our our USC
preparation and how about a week and a half to
get ready for a really good church and team. You

(44:13):
know what's interesting is you're talking about a smart way
to do two days, and there is there's a smart
way to to do the overseas trip and get guys
on the right sleep Cyclely, it's it's it's fascinating to me.
That's something that I think we do a bad job
in the media of talking enough about is that coaches
have to find like, you can't practice hard every day,
even the twenty hour rule in season, you can't go

(44:35):
every day full bore because your players have to have
their legs in order perform at their optimum level. How
much of your practice timing, practice time planning is set
around not just what you want to accomplish, but having
the guys play at optimal health once you get around
to playing in the game. It's everything. It means everything.

(44:56):
It's making sure that we're not overloading them mentally, overloaded
them physically, and make sure we're getting enough work but
not too much work and not too little work. So
managing it is so and I'm so glad you bring
that up because with all of the concustom research and
concussion studies and all things going on there, um, you know,
the coaches sometimes get thrown under the bus as as

(45:17):
guys that are chro magnum guys who just want to
go out there and smash these guys heads together. And
that's not even close because if you really think about it, Um,
we love these guys and care about these guys more
than anybody else. These are our guys. These are people
that we spend all these time with. We want them
to be healthy, want them to be safe, want them
to perform at an optimal level. So there are many
times we'll go through and say, hey, you know, today's
scheduled for a two hour practice. You know what, let's

(45:40):
take thirty minutes out. Our guys legs are tired. You
know hey, you know tomorrow is supposed to be a
padded day. Let's take the paths off tomorrow. We we
hit enough this past weekend. So coaches all over the
country make those decisions based on the health and welfare
of their players. Well, there's there's two parts to it. Um.
Let me ask you about the hitting, because I want
to get back back to the conditioning and the legs
in a second. You're the most physical team in the Pact,

(46:00):
Velve one of the most physical teams in the country.
So I guess just the football angle of it is,
how do you maintain kind of the cultural of the
culture of physicality, the style that you play both offensively
and different defensively with less hitting in practice. How's that done? So?
And it's probably less hitting than most people would think.
So for us, we rarely ever practice for two more

(46:22):
than two and a half hours. I mean that's like
the maximum, usually about two or and fifteen two or
twenty minutes. The first forty five minutes of our practice
is non contact. We are doing a special team's drills,
will go through individual drills, will go through group drills
where the offense work separately from the defense, and it's teaching.
It's technique work before we ever do anything competitive. So

(46:44):
the big chunk of a big chunk of our practice
every single day is non physical, it's mental, it's it's
technique work. And then we'll have typically two team periods
about twelve to fifteen plays each um, where it's guys
going going against guys physical when we get after it,
now we're gonna be physical, We're gonna we're gonna get

(47:05):
after it as well as anybody in college football. And
then we may go on to another period where it's
not as physical so we concentrate the physicality UM in
practice into certain periods, but it can't be the entire practice.
We're allowed to practice for four hours and for me
that's just too much. So well, practice is shorter, and
it will be very intense when it's time to be intense,
and it'll be a teaching temper when it's time to teach.

(47:27):
It's fascinating. So I coached the team David Shaw, our
guest seventh year head coach at the Stanford as they
get ready to take on Rice in Sydney, Australia a
week from Saturday. UM. I coached the team in Israel's
like the Jewish Olympics. Anyway, we had we had two
days and as a as a guy who had never
been a head coach but had had played forever, like,

(47:47):
I know how important is like the kind of the
balance of being sharp and get enough shots up UM
and knowing what you're doing and practicing with the level
of intensity. On the other hand, you want to have
want to have your legs, you know, you want to
feel really really good. And I found that that trying
kind of managing that was such an important part of
the job, so that players and you know this for

(48:08):
a big Saturday. Guys are at their that magic level
to which you don't have to say or do anything.
Their bodies are right, their minds are right, and they're sharp,
and they're not overburdened with what you did. On the
other hand, you didn't under teach them, under coach them,
so they're not prepared. I bring all that up because
I was really bothered by the Josh Rosen thing because
it it makes it seem like all guys do is

(48:29):
spend time around the facility. All they do is watch
film and practice and lift weights. And he he made it.
He made the statement obviouly school and football like you
can't really do them both at a high level. You're
at the highest level academically, your school plays at the
highest level in football and in the Pact, not just
in the Pact twelve but nationally. When you heard those remarks,

(48:51):
what did you think? Well, I I gave an interview
shortly after. I usually don't give interviews after someone else
that I know even she says anything, but I thought
it was important to frame the conversation the in the
way that is beneficial to everyone. UM. In my opinion, UM,
Young Young men and young women that play sports in

(49:12):
college have difficult schedules. Um. And to think that a
college football uh schedule is so much more difficult than
a women's soccer schedule or other others there're there. There
are young men and young women that are working while
they're going to college, and they have to work to
afford to go to college. What you learn at university

(49:32):
is time management. Do you learn how to make critical decisions? Hey,
I don't have time for this and I have time
for this. Um. So that's that's something that you you
you learned during the course of your college and and
I think it's very capable. It's very possible because so
many people. I have a lot of friends I went
to u c. L A, know people that have worked
their coach there, and I know people that teach school there.

(49:54):
And it's very doable there. Um. Is it easy? Absolutely not.
But if you want to be great in your sport
and you want to be a great student, and then no,
it's not going to be easy. And other people are
going to have time to do things that you don't
have to do. But you've made the choice, um, to
be to try to be elite at a at a university. So, UM,
the difficulties, Hey, you accept those, UM, accept the challenges,

(50:15):
and your accomplishments when you do accept something difficult UM
are even more fulfilling. So I would hate for the
argument to be, Hey, you know what we need to
um just have guys go to go to football and
not go to school. Well, then what message are we
sending because so many of these guys that play college sports,
young men and women, they're not going to do it professionally.

(50:36):
They need their education. They need that college degree to
move on and be successful in life. David Jah joining
us on the Doug Out Lip Show of his six seasons,
five of which have ended in double digit wins. You guys,
when your last six games of last season the great
finishing kick and you finish up this year your last
three or at home on the farm we mentioned you
start off, Um, you start off on the road or

(50:59):
in Sydney against Rice. Uh. Kind of an interesting set
your you know, your ranked fifteen, kind of right there
in the middle of the top. What's your what's what's
your level of expectation when you've had some great teams,
You've been around great teams previous to becoming head coach,
you get a sense kind of early on. Do you
have that what it takes if everybody stays healthy to
be special. What's your sense of this club as of

(51:21):
this day. I think we have a few things going
for us. UM. You know, a quarterback coming off an injury,
but a quarterback that had experience and and as as
undefeated as a starter and do some really good things
at the end of the year. UM. But you look
at us as a whole, you know, I think we've
got really good experience. We're more experienced on the offensive line.
We're experienced on the defense, the front seven and the secondary. UM.

(51:43):
I think we've got some talented young guys that are
coming and coming into their own. UM. Like any coach,
we want us to We need to stay healthy and
we need to find the best way to utilize the
the talents and abilities of our of our team. UM.
But I think we have a chance. I think we
have a chance to be very good. We have a
very competitive scale, as you alluded to. UM. UM starting
out early on what's going to Sydney, but then coming

(52:05):
back with USC San Diego State in the u c
l A UM and get into the bulk of our
of our conference, and then you throw in Washington at
the end of the year, and and and Cal and
Notre Dame. UM, it's a it's a tough schedule, and
I think if we can stay healthy and and continue
to improve, because we can't ever get to the point
where I think we're okay, you know, let's go play everybody.
You know, we gotta We're gonna have to improve throughout

(52:25):
the season, UM, in order to have a chance to
hopefully find a way to that PACTOL championship game. And
that's what you did last year. You improved throughout the
season last year. We'll coach, listen, We'll let you get
back after it. We really appreciate the discussion. Safe travels
to and from Sydney, and don't be afraid to bring
back a dub so we can see that match up
against USC at the College su And thanks for being
our guest on Fox Sports Radio. No problem, gonna talk
to you all right. It's a David Shaw, the head

(52:47):
coach is Stanford. He's the best part about was like
people just think like you just line up and smash people.
There's football practice. He's like niah Da kind of a
little more that goes into it, then just let's go
aheare's so buddy, all right? Um, the l A Chargers

(53:11):
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Simple fact when I want something and I don't want
to pay for red Okay. So I was one of
the twenty one fifty four at the stub Hub Center
in Carson, California yesterday for the Chargers maiden voyage in

(53:55):
DU pre season football against the Seattle Seahawks, and I
will point out continue to point out the place was
probably one third at least one third Seahawks fans. Twelve
man travels really really well. It just does. Now, you
might say to yourself, Lasabet's worst down right, That's what
That's what people always say, Like Ellen bed Moore Town Dodgers.

(54:17):
You four million people last year would draw over four
million people this year. Angels will go over three million
this year um and last year for preseason football. The
Rams preseason opener was the largest preseason football game in
the United States history. Official tenants was eighty nine thousand,
one forty nine forty that's for the Rams. Of course,

(54:41):
they did play the Dallas Cowboys, who are um arguably
the most popular team in America, and Cowboys have always
trained in southern California. Cowboys have some swag as opposed
to as much as the twelve man does travel. Well,
let's not act like Seahawks fans are. Steelers fans were
probably number two Cowboys fans one in terms of traveling

(55:03):
fans or fans that put the jerseys on. Yeah, Patriot
fans show up. It's like Red Sox fan when they
won the World Series. You're not really a Patriot fan.
You people like teams that win. That's what I found.
So look the Chargers, and they did get booed at home.
But part of the reason they got booed Kellen Clemmons
came in he's their backup quarterback. Through an eighty nine

(55:24):
yard touchdown pass to Kelvin Benjamin. He should have just
dropped the mic and be like, I'm good handed over
to Cardale Jones instead he kept playing and it just
god bad if you guys watching. And they had two interceptions,
both his fault and a fumble. Also his fault on
a missed fake handoff where he just dropped the football.

(55:46):
Kellen Clemmons bringing the Jets to the Chargers was not
a good thing. This wasn't uh And it should be
pointing out that it's I mean, like Carson's a random location.
It just is inside the stadium. It's great. They actually
have in the corners of the stadium they have little
kind of grassy areas where people can eat food. So

(56:07):
they allow food trucks to come in set up shop,
so they have plenty of vending. Like it's a really
cool little stuff. Is twenty seven thousand seats. It should
be thirty, but some of the seats aren't uncovered yet.
Because it's California, there's some sort of they have to
do some sort of seismic ecological review of seriously. And

(56:30):
Carson is Carson is the town if you look on
a map, literally just south of Compton. It's in between
Orange County and Los Angeles. It's on the campus of
cow State University of Domingus Hills. You're like, what is that?
Where is that? My point? Exactly, it's right next to
industrial areas, right next to Compton. There's strip malls across

(56:54):
the street. There's no There is set up parking on
the campus, but not a ton of it, and it's
just not a place whereuld go like, oh, an NFL
team plays there. Remember they are playing in this home
for two years before they moved to the palatial new
place where they're gonna share with the Rams. But what

(57:16):
this is just an arranged marriage? This what yesterday felt
like what it has to be? Like sorry, like arranged marriage.
First night you go home, like what do you do? Like, yeah,
I know we're married, and our parents said, we're supposed
to be married, but do we have to sleep in
the same bed? Like what do we have to do?
We have to consummate this marriage. It was so strange,

(57:38):
and the Chargers had a vibrant fan base in San Diego.
But like, at some point I actually understand the Charger's
point of view, which is like, hey, we offered the
possibility of a stadium that could get you Super Bowl,
get you in the College Football Playoff, could get you
a Final four it was supposed to be a dome stadium.
The l A one will be domed. Right. That's you're like,

(57:59):
why is it dome when the weather is good? So
you can get basketball in there, so you can have
presidential conventions in there, so you can have anything possible
in there. At San Diego built it, it all would
have at San Diego. It's a great vacation destination. You
would have had two or three bowl games in addition
to the Bowl games that they have, and they might
actually lose. And at some point in negotiations you have

(58:24):
to go like, hey, look, if you don't hit my number,
I'm walking out the door. Right. That's you go in
to buy a car and you're like, well, I'm not
paying sticker price, Like no, no, no, we placed everything
is sticker, Like I'm not paying sticker price. Here's the
invoice price, Like, come on, I'm not paying invoice. Invoice
isn't really invoice. We know there's hold back, like what
can you do for me? And if you don't like

(58:47):
the deal that's being proposed? The only power you really
have as a consumer is in a negotiation to walk away.
It's the same thing in any negotiation and the Chargers
somewhere like, you know, what, the hell with it, We're out.
But what a weird marriage it is between l A.
I mean because if they they built their own stadium

(59:07):
in like South Orange County, we can get some bleed
over from San Diego fans driving up right if you
put it close to a train station where some some
Charger fans are like, look, I'm not gonna with my
Charger jersey to the train, but once I get on
the train, I'm gonna go see my bolts right, drink
on the train the whole way off. But like, this
is literally in the middle of nothing. No disrespect to Carson,

(59:32):
but you, until this moment, you were more known for
having an Arco uh oil refinery, right, like, oh, the
area with the arcole refinery, Like yeah, that's it. Yeah,
it just kind of random. And they're gonna move into

(59:54):
their bigger home. But look, I think that whoever this
whole battle for l A thing, whoever wins first, is
it gonna be. That's l A likes a winner. And
it's not like the Rams have killed it, although the
Rams have won a Super Bowl in many people's lifetimes,
and the Rams were in Los Angeles more recently than

(01:00:15):
the Charges were in Los Angeles, but it was going
back to when I was in high school. So while
right now they appear to be the Clippers and the Rams,
the Lakers, they're the Jets, the Rams, the Giants, They're
the Mets, the Rams, the Yankees. The difference is like
to win a town, you just have to win. You

(01:00:40):
just have to win. But man, was it weird. And
here's the other truth that you need to know. The
Rams have been here for a year. This is heading
their second year. The Charge have been here for five minutes.
If the Raiders somehow were to come into l A
next week and go like, hey, we're gonna play our
games in l A over the next couple of years,

(01:01:00):
they would be more popular. We just are. It's one
of the weirdest things ever to happen to Los Angeles.
The team that they wanted, they wanted back, they could
never get. The team that moved the furthest Away did
come back, and the team that was just down the
road but was always kind of operating under the cover
of darkness because San Diego is lovely, but it is

(01:01:22):
not part of l A or Orange kind like not
part of the mindset of a southern California sports fan.
They came to town and they're playing in a soccer stadium,
which is actually a really cool place to go watch
a game. Like everything is a good seat, everything is
a good seat. But it's a it's a weird arranged marriage,

(01:01:47):
weird one. That's one of those ones where the NFL
signed off in the deal they're gonna make, you know,
six million dollars in the relocation fees. Meanwhile, now they're
gonna ever get long term return on finally getting teams
to l A. I don't think the answer is yes,
all right. Up coming next, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers made

(01:02:14):
a move which had to be inevitable, and it talks
about the power of the mind in sports. There's the
difference between being um, smart with your money and cheap, right, Like,
what's the ramas? Are you cheap? Are you smart with
your money? I think I'm cheap. I'll be okay, So

(01:02:37):
what is the cheapest thing that you do? I whenever
the kids are my wife always say let's go out
to dinner. I always say, we're not gonna sit down.
We're not gonna sit down restaurant. We're not gonna any
place where where you have to tip people and stuff
are just gonna quick fast food and they don't like that,
and I think that's a cheap part of me there, Yeah,
I don't know if that's that's cheap. You think you

(01:02:57):
don't think it's cheap. Um? No, I mean, I mean
there's this now. I like like people who buy two
ply toilet paper and peel off one pazor like that.
That's all right, here's here's here's something. Here's something that
that that I do. That that's you tell me if
this is smart your money or cheap? Um. I like
grocery shopping. One of my favorite things to do is

(01:03:19):
I truly enjoyed one because it's it's like I actually
want to know what's in my um like a cabinet,
you know what's in my refridgerator. I hate when people
I hate buying stuff, like my kids for the most part,
don't eat junk, and I just know, like I don't
want to even my kid food. I don't want to
be a snacky carbloaded just because when I'm hungry, like

(01:03:43):
you get super hungry, I want to be able to
grab something and feel relatively fulfilled, but also not feel like,
you know, it's bad for me, so I don't buy it,
then I can't eat it. But when I go to
the grocery store, I don't think I ever put anything
in the shopping cart which doesn't have some sort of
like bonus by, you know, like if I have choices.

(01:04:06):
Now again, it doesn't mean that I'm gonna buy you know,
wonder Red because it's on special. Right. But my point
is like if I go to buy like some fresh
press juice, right, and there's a company I've never heard
of before, and then there's a major company, but the
company I've never heard of before is two for five dollars,
I'm getting the two for five dollars. Right. I love

(01:04:29):
like raspberries, right, but I ain't buying raspberries unless they're
too up to a little package or blow like I will.
I'm only buying you if you're on special. Is that
cheap or is that smart with your money? I think
it's smart. I think you're looking for the best buy
for your for the income you have, and what's best
for everybody. I agree with you with the taking the

(01:04:52):
one ply that now that's that's that's that's cheap music.
Are you cheap? Are you smart your money? I would
say smart with the money. Okay, give me the cheapest
thing you do. Oh man, I can't even really think
of something like that. I mean I don't really. It's
more because I don't drink like soda or anything. But like,
I couldn't tell you the last time I even considered

(01:05:12):
paying for a drink at like a restaurant. You should
always do water, Yeah, always water? Yeah. Well, I mean, like, listen,
I will do like I'll do. I'll do like an
iced tea or like a tea and a little lemonade. Yeah,
like I couldn't. I couldn't even do that. I'll give you.
I'll give you one. Okay, you tell me. This is
my wife and I have this discussion. So I've I've
kind of evolved out of this Starbucks drink. But you
guys know what the dugger is? My drink at Starbucks

(01:05:33):
was always it's okay, it's a what is it? Is it?
The four shots of espresso over ice, two pumps chi
soy to the top, Yes, which technically is like a
super filthy dirty chi right, technically you could write it

(01:05:54):
up if you put it down. I was like, oh,
because what happened? Was my wife like Chi, it's too
sweet for me. I like coffee. I really like espress
some more than coffee, and so buddy, mine's like you're
at a dirty shot. Before I was like, whoa, why
is it dirty? Like no, no, no. If you put
a shot and it's called dirty, I go, what happens
to you? Two shots like filthy? All right? What if
his three shots? Like no one's ever done three shots

(01:06:14):
like getty up? And eventually we got to four shots
and it's like turbo power, but it has more an
espresso taste. And then to lessen the sugar in the chie,
I do two pumps or sometimes just one pump. And
then I like soy milk, which is also kind of
vanilla soy. It's Starbucks. It's a little bit sweetened, but
I like that more than I like regular milk. Anyway,

(01:06:35):
if you if it's brought up in the computer as
a filthy dirty schi four shots espresso to go along
with the child, it's like seven bucks. But if you
tell them and I want a quat espresso, it's four
shots over rice, two pumps of chi, and so it's
like three dollars and I have not gotten to drink

(01:06:55):
at a Starbucks before because they wanted to ring it
up as a dirty child. Like, no, no, no, no,
If you're gonna ring it up as a dirty chi,
I'm not having. It's the exact same drink. It's not
your money, Okay, this is I'm I'm not I'm not
fudging at all. It's still technically it's four shots. Put
in the four shots, two pumps and chi. Put that
in the computer. Put the soy. Even charge me for soy.
Somehow soy costs sixty cents instead of milk costs nothing.

(01:07:19):
Tell me how that makes any sense. It doesn't make
any sense at all. But I'll pay for the soy,
but I only pay for it if you ring it
up as such. Is that cheaper? Is that smart with
the money? That's cheap? Yeah? I think that's cheap. All right. Um.
I bring it up because Jason Um Jason Lte is
the general manager of the of the Tampay Buccaneers, and

(01:07:44):
I think the challenge, the challenge for general managers is
how do you make bold moves but also not make
crazy but not make crazier stupid moves? Right here is
what I mean. So they drafted Roberto uh Robert Aguayo.

(01:08:05):
Last year in the second round, they also traded up.
They traded into the second round to draft Aguayo, And
of course, last year he made just seventy of his kicks.
Who's twenty two or thirty one on field goal attempts.
He continued to struggle this year in training camp. The
final straw came Friday night, when he missed an extra

(01:08:25):
point and then missed on a forty seven yard field
goal attempt against the Cincinnati Bengals. Light vowed in his
interview with the MMQB dot Com that experience with a
guile would not make him quote afraid of making bold moves.
You can't make decisions and not make them based upon fear.
I will say that you have to learn from things
that didn't work out. Whatever is the case, will figure

(01:08:46):
it out. Now. Those three sentences are accurate. But he
didn't make a bold move right. He wasn't smart with
his money, he was cheap. He didn't make a bold move.
He made a stupid move. It's a lot like Doug Whaley,
who was fired as general manager of the Buffalo Bills.

(01:09:07):
Drafting Sammy Watkins wasn't the bold move. Trading up to
the fourth pick in the draft and drafting Sammy Watkins
in a wide receiver heavy draft where you could have
had Odell Beckham Jr. Among Kelvin Benjamin among others at
your original drafting spot. That that was the stupid thing, right,

(01:09:27):
Whereas like if you look at the Cincinnati UH, Cleveland Browns,
Cleveland Browns, Clear Browns get killed for uh. They drafted
Justin Gilbert with that pick in two thousand and fourteen. Right,
they traded with the Buffalo Bills. They had the fourth pick.
They traded with the Bills, they got the eighth pick,
and they got the next year's first round draft pick.

(01:09:47):
Remember that, like, just because the draft pick doesn't work out,
that was a smart trade. You get a second first
round off second first round draft pick, and all you
want to do is move up four spots. Now, they
could have drafted ob Beckham Jr. Would have been better.
But that was a bold move light drafting. Trading into
the second round was a bold move. Taking a kicker

(01:10:09):
who no one else was gonna take in the second round.
That was a dumb move. That was that that risk
was beyond any weight of any sort of return. It
wasn't needed. And while I like that, Jason Lights like,
hey man, we took a shot, didn't work, We cut him,
we moved on. You're right. And by the way, uh

(01:10:32):
Aguya was claimed by the Chicago Bears. I mean, this
is clear the power of your brain. He was an
excellent kicker. Excellent kicker in college. You're the best kicker
in college for a couple of years. And you don't
just lose it unless you you lose that mental edge.
And we'll have to see if he can get it back.
But the I'm not afraid of making bold moves. That's

(01:10:54):
where guys they don't want to be called cheap. They
want to be called smart with their money or frugal.
People don't want to be well. I don't want you
to say a man a stupid move. I mean a
bold move that didn't pan out. Bold move is drafting
a kicker. Dumb move is or unreasonably risky move is
trading into the second round to draft a kicker. My

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(01:12:03):
I allow the guys and allow it. I encourage them,
in fact, to find something interesting. Said in the last
twenty four hours on Fox Sports Radio, let's see what
they came up. Colin Cowherd announced that this is an
end of an era in college football. Take a listen.
Nothing lasts forever in sports. We know this. Even when

(01:12:24):
stars get together, the Big Three in Boston, you know
m J and Pippen, Shock and Kobe, even when it's Randy,
Moss and Brady, when you get these unbelievable warriors right now,
it never lasts forever. And that's not only true with
individuals and teams, it's also true with cultures in sports.

(01:12:45):
Don't count last year. We're on the heels of a
ten to twelve year run of Southern college football dominance.
The SEC dominated. It's over, and the South doesn't want
to admit it's over. It's not about the media. SEC
fan Vegas no longer sees you as the best conference.
And there's one reason why this is true. You still

(01:13:07):
have players everywhere. You are the worst coached major conference.
You have ten coordinators masquerading his head coaches. It's it's
a it's an interesting hypotheses more so than theory. I mean,
that's kind of really what it comes down to. We

(01:13:27):
would all agree Nick Saban his top notch correct. Brett
Bielomo was top notch when he was at Wisconsin as
a head coach, so why would he be considered a coordinator.
Maybe he's talking about Kevin Sumlin Texas and m who
has fallen on hard time since the Johnny Manzel era
opens up this year at u c l A. Old
miss obviously has become kind of a poop show with

(01:13:49):
the n c A investigations. Um, we've seen Mississippi State
achieved great stuff once until they lost Dak Prescott. They
may have found their quarterback in the future l s.
You would be more what he's taught talking about. We'll
see about Auburn, who's coached by a coordinator has become
a head coach. I don't know. Look, Tennessee suffered massive

(01:14:09):
injuries on their defense. Massive. I wasn't a big Josh
Dobbs guy. He was too inaccurate, he was too radic
at times. But Tennessee was a really good club, and
had they not suffered those massive injuries, they likely would
have played in an SEC championship game. Last year, Florida
did play an SEC championship game, but their season fell

(01:14:30):
apart because their quarterback tested positive for p E d
S and now they have seven players, including their best players,
suspended for their opener against Michigan. Jacob Eeson's a stud. Uh,
it's the sophomore quarterback at Georgia. I think they'll be
fine as they have a second year head coach. But
if you want to tell me that the SEC West

(01:14:50):
is down because Vegas has teams as a dog in
the opening game of the season, that's fine. But the
reality of it is you think anybody's gonna go undefeated
again going through Arkansas, Auburn, L s U Mississippi State,
A and M and Old miss I actually don't think so.
I think the SEC is still really good. It was

(01:15:11):
never as good as the perception of it was. It's
not as bad as some of the perception of it
is coming into this season. And the teams that have
unachieved have mostly done so because of massive injuries or
or UH putrid quarterback play see L s U and.
I think injuries you can't prevent, and quarterback play it

(01:15:35):
takes a level of investment, which I think you'll see
from Georgia. I think you'll see from from Mississippi State,
even from All miss And I think you're finally going
to start to get some stability at quarterback from Texas
A and M. And also I believe we have something.
Randy Couturs Randy Cortur, of course former UH, former UFC champion,

(01:16:01):
also a former All American in Oklahoma State, had this
to say on The Undisputed about the Maymeather Mayweather McGregor
fight and the video that has been leaked by Dana White.
Let's see the other eleven rounds that they sparred. Where
did those Where did that footage go? What did that
look like? We see the one time that Molonaji may
have been off balance, and Molonazi is treating it like sparring.

(01:16:24):
Sparring is different than fighting. McGregor is acting like he
was in the main event on Fighting Night. That wasn't
what it was twelve rounds still sparring in a practice gym.
And let's see the other footage. Your Monazi did some
other things back a couple of times. I'm sure there
were plenty arounds where I did the other way around

(01:16:44):
face at the end, it looked like I think they're
manipulating situation. Look, Grandy Cotur is no no spring chicken
in regards to big fights and info being leagued. He
also understands Dana and how Dana rates, and look, it's
in Dana's best interest to create hype for this fight,
to create legitimacy for this fight. That's all they're trying

(01:17:06):
to do is make this seem legitimate. And in a
week and a half we'll be there in Vegas. We'll
find out whether or it's a legitimate. You'll you'll know
really really early on if he has any idea what
he's doing, because otherwise it's gonna be bad. It's gonna
be bad. And if you don't think that they believe

(01:17:27):
they had a problem, why did Floyd Mayweather start last
week saying, Hey, I'm not what I used to be
and I'm gonna have to walk down. Connor McGregor and
the week ends with Dana White putting out video which
was supposed to be kept under under darkness, right like,
I'm just gonna just gonna tweet out these two little links.

(01:17:48):
And look, he did fall down, whether it was balance
or whatever. He wasn't pushed down as Monagi said he was.
He was not pushed down. But you're probably all going
to tune in and watch and we'll see whether it's legitimate.
And the problem is if it's not, it makes it
tough to ever think you're going to buy into anything

(01:18:10):
it's being legitimate. Again, Matthew Kleiner says, it's hard to
say the level of dominance UH Southern football is over
when Clemson just won the national title. He meant, look
what what what Professor Cowherd liked to say was he
meant the Southeastern Conference. The thing about the SEC is
Clemson essentially is of the SEC, just not in the SEC.

(01:18:31):
Right like they look like, smell like an SEC good
and baseball, small town, great campus, unbelievable stadium, unbelievable facilities,
desire to win. They're just not in the SEC. This
past weekend was good for the NFL and bad for
Colin Kaepernick. I'll tell you why next what up? But
she's not gotta leave show Fox Sports Radio. I guess

(01:18:57):
we're supposed to be freaking out that some of the
Seattle Seahawks took a knee during the national anthem. Supposed
to be freaking out at Marshall Lynch sat down during
the national anthem. Supposed to be supposed to be, but
we're not. I'm not going to. I'm not gonna freak

(01:19:18):
out here because I actually think it helps the NFL.
It really helps the NFL because for the last couple
of weeks, even if we had Michael Lombardion, who uh
works for The Ringer as his podcast with The Ringer
and has worked in many front offices and he reiterated
with several people around the NFL have have said to me,
which is like, hey, he hadn't been good in a

(01:19:39):
long time, in a while, like he was so good
last year they didn't win. And I think there's some
truth to that I've heard from. I talked to a
GM in the NFL last week who told me, like,
it's not bringing him into the problem. There'll be some
people that will be miffed and maybe some sponsors not
keen on it, whatever, but that's not a big problem
when you cut him. If you cut him and he's
a backup quarterback, now, could you lose your locker room?

(01:20:03):
You know? Did you cut him because of what he's
perceived to be? Because no one perceives Colin Kaepernick to
be a bad guy. I have not I have not
not heard that in any circles, even when Colin Kaepernick
lost his starting job previously. The issue that people have
with Kaepernick was wasn't really a leader, wasn't a dynamic
in the locker room in terms of guys wanting to

(01:20:24):
play for him, wanting to win and kill for him.
I didn't have whatever level of of in factor was
was needed. And so I think there's um and look
what's interesting about the NFL. I was watching Brett Hunley
play against the Eagles. I watched um, what's the man's name?

(01:20:48):
He played at UH he played at TCU and then
he got arrested before the Alamo Bowl. Uh boy can
um Trayvon Boykin played for the Seahawks. Like, what's crazy
about Kaepernick is you basically have two types of backup
quarterback in there, maybe maybe three. Two types of backup

(01:21:08):
quarterback in the UNFL. It's either McCown brother, right, And
I know that that Ryan Fitzpatrick is not a accown brother,
but he's really McCown brother. Right. The McCown brothers are
the perfect Like some average looking dude who he played,
I remember him kind of, and he's fine, he makes

(01:21:29):
very little money. He's totally in on helping the starters
succeed and um, and you know he's signaling in the place.
He's sitting there right next to the starter, whispering in
his ear, helping be part of the process. And if
you had to, Matt was wasn't more? What's the more

(01:21:50):
guy from the Dolphins, Matt Moore? Right, Matt Moore from
the Dolphins consummate backups. Right, Matt Moore is a m
accown brother without being McCown brother. Do you know just
what I'm saying? Or you get one of these super
athletic quarterbacks who runs around back there and just can
make plays with his feet. And you know, when things
go bad or when a guy gets hurt, he ain't great,

(01:22:13):
but he's fine and he can make people miss. And
even though he might not be um, he might not
be as good in terms of his accuracy that he
needs to be, or reading a defense and he needs
to be, he makes up with for it with grit, toughness,
like the role I thought Tibo could have been. Tibo
would have been a really good backup, total change of pace.

(01:22:36):
The rest of these guys are dropped back. That's your prayers.
Drop back. Now of a sudden, you bring in a
backup quarterback and he runs around you didn't prepare for it.
Sometimes you can steal a game late with that type
of player, You know what I'm saying. That's that's what
Jacobe Brissette is. The third string quarterback for the Patriots.
People forget. People liked it. Well, Jacoby Brisette could be
a backup like now, we can't. He stinks in terms

(01:22:57):
of accuracy. And for one game against the Texans, they
ran some beer, they ran some zone red um, they
ran some wildcats, they were in a little bit of everything.
They stood the kitchen sink at him and they beat
the Texans last last year, but that doesn't last for
a season. Nobody thinks it lacks for last for a season.

(01:23:18):
So there's two types of back. Kaepernick should absolutely be
a backup, but he's not now. Look, I think some
of it is how much he wants to get paid,
that he wants to start and he wants to play.
Some of it is reputation not necessarily be an alpha leader,
which is fine if you're a backup, more so than
if you're a starter. And I'm sure some of it

(01:23:40):
is the idea of the protest. I think the NFL.
I think the NFL really caught a break this weekend
because now like Marshawn Lynch comes back to the NFL,
he don't even play, which means he's gonna be on
the opening day roster with the Oakland Raiders. Right hometown
guy comes back to be the starting running back, or

(01:24:01):
to be their short yardage running back, whatever, and Marshawn
doesn't stand up. Marshawn's not getting cut. Michael Bennett, star
defensive end for the Seattle Seahawks, he takes a knee,
he's not getting cut. So the NFL, whether it's real
or whether that look, look, I don't know each individual situation.
How much are like you know, I like to bring in,

(01:24:21):
but the protests can't neither, do you Like these are
private conversations. But now the NFL can point to like, hey, look, Michael,
that is not getting cut Malcolm Jenkins from last year protests,
he's not getting cut. Uh, Marshaw Lynch not getting cut again.

(01:24:43):
Doesn't mean that's the reality or the same situation as Kaepernick.
And Kaepernick I thought his vitriol. I thought some of
his the words that he used was was wrong and
is more insightful. And he was kind of the the
face of this, uh, this protest, and it was also
tied into the Black Lives Matter, tied into what happened
in Ferguson, tied into what happened in New York. It's

(01:25:03):
tied into all these other deals. Take a listen to
what Michael Bennett said after the game yesterday. But everything
has been going on in the last couple of months,
and especially after the last couple of days sitting everything
in Virginia. Someone's going on out there and earlier today
in Seattle. Um, I just wanted to be able to

(01:25:24):
use my platform and to be able A continues who
speak on injustice. I love the military. I love my
father was in the military. I love I love hot
dogs like any other American. I love football like any
other American. But I don't love segregation. I don't love
right so I don't love um propression. I don't know love.
I love ginder slant, and I just I just want

(01:25:46):
to see people who have the equality that they that
they deserved. Okay, I'm not not offensive. I'm more offended
that hot dog. He thinks hot dog is Americana. Maybe
that's what's wrong with us. I want to hot dog,
but my son a hot dog at the Chargers game yesterday.
I might have put too much catchup on it, which
I did not know was humanly possible for an eight

(01:26:06):
year old. He's like, Dad, I think you put too
much catch upon it, Like we're really having this conversation, like, yeah,
you want to about the rest of it? Was like, no,
I don't eat hot dogs. I don't want to really
hot I'll eat it. I did eat it. Is fantastic,
it's amazing, bay incredible. But I put too much catch up.
I didn't know that was possible. Oh, that's the best

(01:26:27):
thing ever. To happened to the NFL, right, because now
the whether again it's not reality is perception, which a
lot of times becomes reality, and the perception is but
keeping him out of the NFL because he's gonna protest. Look,
Colin Kaeperick even said, I'm not gonna kneel for the
national anthem. I know whatever damage has already been done.

(01:26:49):
And I do think there's a reality to some sponsors
and owners and the conservative groups or whatever. You just
don't want that in your locker room, especially the potential
device in this if you cut him. I think there's
and I've told you guys time and again there's other
factors there. But when players that aren't getting cut taking knee,

(01:27:10):
any NFL owner that thought I could I might not
want him because of the protests can now point to
it and go, hey see, Marshall Lynch, we're not black
bawling him from the league. That guy grabs his nuts
when he goes in the end zone. That guy eat
skittles I got, retires and retires. We don't know what
he's doing. Wild Duark, golf cart driver back to when

(01:27:32):
he was at cow ice Cube, joins the show. Next,
I'll ask him about the Raiders, the Raiders going to
Vegas with a weird marriage between l A and the
San Diego Chargers now the l A Chargers, And I'll
ask him about the rumor that Lamar odom once in

(01:27:55):
the Big Three, how is he going to recruit Kobe
Bryant to the Big Three, and how he felt beating
LaVar Ball in a four point shootout yesterday at Staples
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Sports Radio tonight on Fox Sports one. The final regular
season games of UH the inaugural season of the Big

(01:28:41):
Three will be on FS one tonight. Was that seven
o'clock Eastern time? Seven o'clock close enough, seven o'clock, eight o'clock,
seven o'clock, eight o'clock. Don't stay on the sheet. I'm
supposed to know these things I have. I have a sheet.
It does not say one time. We're all looking around. UH.
It was it was like again, people are like, where

(01:29:02):
were all the people at the Charger game? They were
at Staples Center five pm Pacific, so that's eight pm
Eastern time, alright, so eight p m um. Oscar de
Lahoya was there, Dwyne Wade was there, chat Occho Sinko,
l O Cool, j Genie Bus, Jesse Williams, Snoop Dogg,

(01:29:24):
Chris Brown, lamar odom T Paine, Kenny Smith, Martin Lawrence,
Jeffrey Osborne Ken you woo, that's Jeffrey Osborne Rough. I
don't know who. Raffael Sadik, who's at No Idea is
on the list. Pooch Hall, Gilbert Arenas still Gilber Arenas
still listed the celebrity just want to point that one out.

(01:29:46):
Sam Cassell, LaVar Ball, LaMelo Ball and others were all
at the games yesterday. Of course, this is the way
they do. They film it. It's actually very very cool.
I'm like, I'm not gonna sit here and lie to
you guys thinking I thought it would be as big
a hit as it is. Nor did I know how
Fox Sports one was going to broadcast it. They've done
an outstanding job. You end up getting the sights and

(01:30:07):
the sounds of the game, of the bench, of what's
going on, and it's kind of become a thing. Where
was everybody in l A and not at the Charger
game in Carson, California. They were in downtown l A.
They were either the Dodger game Chevezravine, which was earlier
in the day when the Dodgers won again one o'clock start,
or they were at Stables Center watching, Uh what trilogy

(01:30:30):
remain undefeated trilogy? Still that's Kenyan Martin's team, and I
think it's yeah, this team's undefeated. So ice Cube is
gonna join us in your moments and it's become a thing.
Although letting Charles having Charles Oakley play, like you start
to get into the all right, now, we're gonna pick
a guy from the crowd to play, like, like, oh,

(01:30:53):
you two can play in the Big Three. All they
gotta do is show up with your sneakers. There was
a time in which you could check in and play
with the Clippers, you know, like Gilbert Rius, I'm sure
sitting there courtside Lamaroto apparently wants to play, but like,
is there who is who is the guy gonna tell

(01:31:13):
these guys like come on, man, you can't now, come on,
you don't want to do that. And there's been talk
of Kobe Bryant playing next year, you know, who know,
founder of the Big Three, which, of course you can
watch the final regular season event five Pacific, eight o'clock
Eastern time, Fox Sports One Championship comes from Las Vegas.

(01:31:35):
On August Ice Cube joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
All the people that were supposed to go to the
Chargers game end up going to the Big Three yesterday. Cube,
you're to blame for the Chargers being the laughing stock
in the NFL. You realize that, right, I'm not blamed.
It was already. Uh yeah, we had a great time out, man.

(01:31:58):
It was pretty It was pretty as to see so
many people, um, you know, just happy and enthusiastic about
Big Three basketball. And I know our players enjoyed it,
and I'm pretty sure of sayings. You know, they had
a great time. You obviously you've gone around the country

(01:32:18):
promoting this thing in all honesty, Okay, I remember we
had you on before it started. Was there ever level
any level of trepidation in that? Like, Man, some of
these guys they say they want to play, we get
game two, they won't show up. People say they're gonna come,
but they won't show up. Like, you know, like it's
become a success and it's become a really cool thing
in the summer. But when you were promoting it in

(01:32:41):
all honesty, was there any level of, hey, this might
not work well. I mean, you know you can't be
under decent sure, but you know, nobody was telling me
it was a bad idea. You know it was you know,
when you look at what we were trying to do.
Everybody that that I came across that this was a

(01:33:04):
great idea. Now was we sure that you know, people
would come out and support it like they are and
that it was like an event, um, and you know
kind of a place to be a kind of event.
We weren't sure. We was hoping. Uh And you know,
so we were pleasantly surprised. But of course, you know

(01:33:27):
throughout the throughout creating as moments where you say, you know,
certain things got to fall into place for the work,
and you know those things don't you could be hurt. Uh. So, um,
you know it it was really all about you know,

(01:33:49):
staying true to what we believe, getting the players to
buy in, trying to find players that we knew still
wanted the ball. That ball on the weekends anyway, know,
before the Big Three came along, our guys who were
playing overseas, we just wanted to find guys with the
right spirit because you know, we can put on the show,

(01:34:09):
but it's really all about the game on the court.
I scup joining us in the doug Otlip Show Founder
the Big Three. Of course, you can watch uh the
final regular season Big Three event tonight on Fox Sports
one eight o'clock eastern, five o'clock Pacific from Staple cent
Over ten thousand people watched it yesterday. He mentioned all
the people. D Wade was there, Ocho Cinco was there,
l O Cool j, Jesse Williams, Snoop, Chris Brown, lamar Odom.

(01:34:32):
Speaking of lamar Odom, you mentioned guys that still want
a ball. He apparently still wants the ball. How how
realistic is lamar Odom playing in the Big Three next
year for you? Well, you know, if he signs up,
then of course we will. We'll invite him to the combine.
I'm pretty sure people want to see what he got,

(01:34:52):
So you gotta be in shape. Every player that stepped
on to the Big three court for the first time,
realize that you gotta take this serious. That hadn't any
success on the court because guys are bringing it. So
now I was just telling to start working out and
getting shaped. You know. It's it's interesting because Charles Oakley

(01:35:15):
played yesterday, right, so then you got all right, so
and Oaks in good shape for his age, but it's
still his age. Take me through the decision to let Charles, Like,
I'm not I don't want to be the guy to
tell Charles Oakley can't play. But I don't know what
the decision was like to let Charles Oakley play. Um

(01:35:36):
coaches and you know, the good guys to sign up,
we really had to see what they wanted to do,
what part of the league they wanted to be a
part of them. So we we wanted him to be
a coach, and he was like, I want to play,
So Flaire coach say no, thank you, but you know

(01:36:02):
we love oh. We wanted him around. You know, we think,
you know, he's great for the league. So you know,
we said, yo, you can, you could be a player coach.
You know, we never really thought he was gonna play,
at least I didn't. Uh, but when he starts saying
he wanted to play, and everybody was like, okay, here

(01:36:24):
we go. This is what we said. And when an't
we doing it for him? And now in Irison, no
nobody really, no, no other coach really acts for that,
you know, kind of player slash coach, you know, uh pile.
So that's how he you know, he he checked himself in.

(01:36:44):
He did, he did check himself in ice Cube joining
us on the doug Otlip Show. Kobe's your white whale, right,
Kobe is the guy who, like, man, we gotta get you,
gotta get Kobe. Um, what's this? What's this? What's the
sale to Kobe Bryant to get him on that floor?
I guess putting on the great product? You know, it's
nothing I can really say to him to make him

(01:37:05):
I want to play the Big Three because it's a
summer long commitment and these guys have been you know,
for you know, at least him over twenty years, been
planning you know, vacations around the summer. So to get
people to give that up, you know, you got it
has to be a committee. So he has to feel

(01:37:26):
the itch. That's why we're here. That's what's great about
the Big Three. We're here. So he may feel the
itch next year, may take him another year or so.
You never know. And the thing is when he does
feel it, right here, I'm putting back on the big
stage where he can show people that he loves basketball

(01:37:48):
and he loves to perform. And you know, but it's
not just for him. I mean, I got my called Pierce,
he got my Ole Kevin Garnett, I got my eye
on rep handles saying you over to rings. Uh, you
know this countless Look guys on this that I know
still got a gang. And if they want to, you know,

(01:38:11):
played on the high stage. Yeah, they want to compete.
And that's that's really the big thing is like, hey,
it's the only place where you can go and get
legit competition. You can't get it going down and playing
an equinox or twenty four hour, right, Like, you want
to come compete against some of your contemporaries and you
don't have to run up and down for you two nights.
You just have to do it, uh during weekends in
the summer. This this is the place to do it.

(01:38:32):
Ice Cube, our guest on The doug Out Lip Show,
you beat LaVar Ball in a shoot shooting contest from
the four point logo. Um, but like, look, you're a
legitimate superstar right as a music star, as a producer,
as the as starting starting this league, as a movie star,
as a TV star, like you, all of these things

(01:38:52):
you have accomplished. There are many people who be like yo,
like LaVar is riding the wave of his son and
you're like li gitimizing him by putting him on the
same floor as you. How would you feel that? How
would you respond to that? I would say, Uh, he's
a relax a little bit because we had a lot
of fun. You know, his son place where the Lakers um.

(01:39:17):
You know, we're gonna see a lot of LaVar Ball.
He's from Los Angeles, so you know everybody you know
is crazy. But I'd like to I'd like to point
out you are not running from that ghetto bird. I
just want to point out that's how you've evolved. You're
not running. That's the helicopter, and you show no fear,
no sign of hiding out from the ghetto bird. No. Yeah,

(01:39:40):
that's uh. I think you know, I think there might
be an armed shopper. I don't know what it means.
But but yeah, I don't have to worry about that
got But you know, I'm just saying went it was
a bar. He's a good guy. He's just a promoment kid.
You know, he may be a little animated. You know,

(01:40:00):
I'm not saying he's the best coach in the world.
But for the most part, he's a father who's who's
trying to make sure it's sun to see. So, um,
I don't have a problem with that last thing. K
Championships in in Las Vegas, and obviously it's you know,
he got it's it's right there with with the Mayweather

(01:40:21):
McGregor fight. Give me your sense of who is the
who is the player that has surprised you the most?
As you said, like you've gone around, you've watched all
these guys. There's lots of guys with big, big reputations,
big names, but that's not necessarily the best player of
the big three. Who's the guys like, dude, that guy
can ball way better than I ever thought possible. Uh,

(01:40:42):
what's a few guys that I've seen that's impressive. Andre Owens.
I never really got a sense to see him play
with Sharon mccamp's Uh, I mean my movement. Abdu rave
I knew he can fall, but I don't think he's
still had it at forty eight years old. Rashard Lewis,
I didn't think he was that, you know, uh, that

(01:41:05):
insane on the block. I didn't know he had such
you know, uh, dominant inside gang. And Al Harrington is
the most dominant player in our league. So you know
these are these guys are are the stars of the
Big Three. Um, the Raiders are moving to Las Vegas

(01:41:26):
and Marshawn didn't stand for the national anthem, apparently hadn't
stand for national anthem at times for parts of eleven years.
Your Raider fear like the most known Raider fan, you
got any reaction to it? So America, you can do
what you want to do. You don't have to, you
don't want to. And it's just suck. Was that And

(01:41:48):
that's the duty of our being here. So people who
have who got a problem with it, that show right too.
They have a problem with it. But you know who cares?
You know what I'm saying, whom cares? Man? Play ball?
And you got to do anything and leave on the field,

(01:42:08):
off the field, give me more attention and attention. You
know splay ball the whole much a lot to do
about nothing? Man, Well put ice Cube joining us the
Big Three tonight Fox Sports one, eight Eastern five Pacific. Cube,
look forward to seeing you in Vegas, can congrats on
what's been a fantastic first year with the Big Three.

(01:42:30):
Really appreciate it. Thank you man, thanks for having us song.
Really appreciate it. All right, that's uh, ice Cube joining
us on the Doug Gottlip Show. Do anybody else think
get over when you heard heard it in the background? Man, Sorry,
I'm a long time ice Cube fan. Is quite letard
the superstar in the NBA, A former NBA All Star,
doesn't think so find out who after we find out

(01:42:53):
what's trending Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm I'm
run from the ghetto bird right, oh, Man, don't act
like you don't remember. Doo doo doo do do do do? Uh?
I didn't want to say anything, but Cube did have

(01:43:13):
us from the speaker phone. Did any should I have said, like, hey, man,
you pick up the phone? I usually say like can
you pick up the phone? Did I choke there a
little bit? Or should I like what music I want?
Your honest opinion. There should I have said, like you,
I couldn't. I didn't have the heart to tell him,
so I can't. I can't hold you to the same standard.

(01:43:33):
I should be held to a higher standard. I don't know.
I mean, what do you think, Ramos, what do you think?
That's Yeah, that's tough one. I mean he was He
was a good guy, and he was good about every
answered every question he would like, and he was like, man,
I'd tell you to relax when you talk about the
bar ball things like I tell people relax. That's one
thing though. He was like sharing his spotlight with like
it does legitimize the barball, Like, oh, he's out there

(01:43:54):
with ice Cube, Like, yeah, man, relax some place with Lakers.
We're all family here. Um. Yeah, that's a hard one.
I probably in years past, most other guys I would
have gone like, hey, could you take us off speaker phone?
What do you think? Yeah, there's a lot of there's
a lot of people where I wouldn't have any problem
doing that. But when I picked up the phone and

(01:44:17):
it was ice Cube and I could tell we were
probably on speaker I was just I couldn't. I could
do it couldn't bring myself to do it. Okay, in
the future, there has to be like a sentence you
got you like, is there a chance we could get
you on a handheld? Is there a chance? Is there
something or something going on with your bluetooth? That's what
you could say, like going on with your bluetooth? Right,

(01:44:39):
because you may pick up something. There has to be
a way to soft sell it. What do you what
do you think about? Is there something going on with
your bluetooth? I think that's good. It's not bad. How
you like that one? I agree with that. Yeah, that's
that's not that's not offensive. All right, let's let's get
to the let's get to the press. The press we
do just think ice Cube does have that him like, no, man,

(01:45:01):
I ain't picking up the handheld. I'm just a little busier.
I got him for seven eight minutes. What do you uh?
What do you got for me? We begin dug with
former NBA All Star Penny Hardaway. He told a satellite
radio show that Kawai Leonard of the San Antonio Spurs

(01:45:22):
is not a superstar, his rationale being quote, Kawhi Leonard
is not a superstar because he has no interest in
being the face of the league or starring in TV commercials.
He's a good player, but I wouldn't consider him a
superstar player. Unquote and related story, no word yet on
what Little Penny thinks of Leonnar Penny Hardaway season not

(01:45:45):
a superstar because he's not in TV commercials. How did
it becoming a superstar have to do with TV commercials?
Some somebody's gonna capitalize on this, by the way, right,
somebody's gonna capitalize on it. They're gonna have him in
TV com where he doesn't say anything, right, Like really
smart marketing people take what somebody's known for and then

(01:46:06):
make it into kind of a thing. Right. It's like, um,
remember pot roast? What's the guys know? What's I remember
Terrence Nighton? Right? Like Terrence Nighton was in that like
Michelin commercial that you know, and the only reason he's
in the Michelin commercials because his nicknames pot roast. But
even that Michelin screwed it up because he wasn't eating

(01:46:28):
pot roast or talking about pot roast in the commercial.
It was just Terrence Knighten football player like that didn't
really do it, you know. Um, so that is that
is interesting logic, which actually makes sense for Penny. And
and I'll say I like Penny Hardway. He's always been
He's a cool cat. He's always been super good to me.

(01:46:50):
But Benny Hardaway is more known for his commercials than
his playing career, right, and then a Penny Penny and
Little Penny, which, by the way, the truth is that
was all made by Chris Rock because Chris Rock is hilarious.
But but if we go based upon commercials, then Penny
Hardaway was a superstar. And yet Penny Hardway's production wasn't
that of a superstar That dude can Kawhi Leonard can

(01:47:12):
play at both ends period. By Penny's logic, perhaps someone
like Nick Young would have to be considered an NPA
superstar onto the NFL, and we touched on it during
the Update a moment ago. But Ian Rappaport of NFL
Media reporting that the Chargers are looking at an October
debut for number seven overall draft pick Mike Williams, the

(01:47:32):
wide receiver out of Clemson out since the spring with
a herniated disc in his back. Remember their first round
pick last year, Joey Bosa missed all the preseason and
the first four weeks of the regular season because that
contract hold out and a hamstring injury. So two years
in a row for the Charger's first round pick. Uh. Yeah, Look,
I watched the charge I will tell you of their
concern and I think Mike Williams is gonna be good

(01:47:54):
for what they have, really good. First of all, remember
um and the back does I don't like the back injury.
Remember two years ago he missed with the neck injury
when he ran into the goal post or he's hitting
to the when he's hitting to the goal post and
he's at Clemson, that's why he missed the whole season.
Um anyway, Um, Odell Beckham, it's a different engine. But
Odell Beckham Jr. Remember's first four games of his pro

(01:48:16):
career hasn't set him back at all. Calvin Benjamin's a
home run hitter. If Keenan Allen's healthy, Hunter Henry and
I thought Antonio Gates looked really good yesterday. Like their
problem is not weapons. That would be another weapon for
Philip Rivers. And I kind of think like the Chargers,
uh forced marriage, arranged marriage, could actually get off to

(01:48:37):
a really good start because they have they have such
a potentially prolific offense when he gets back healthy. Like, look,
I I don't think it's Mike Williams is going to
be a star. Not a star based home when he
does his first three years in the league, not what
he does the first month in the league. Anyway. I
know it's the college basketball off season, but I think

(01:48:57):
you might be interested in this little tidbit doug. Former
Yukon three time national championship winning head coach Jim Calhoun
says he's considering a return to coaching. The Hartford Courant
newspaper reports that Calhoun, currently corant I suppose, has had
serious discussions about becoming the head coach at the University

(01:49:18):
of St. Joseph, which is a Division three school in
West Hartford. Blue Jays. No word yet on whether St.
Joseph is planning on immediately petitioning to move up to
D one if Calhoun signs off. My wife is actually
a graduate of St. Joe's. Real St. Jose You went,
got a nursing degree there. It used to be in
all women's schools. You get a nursing degree there. It
isn't West Harvard. I used to play pick up ball

(01:49:39):
there every day at lunch for ESPN open their own
kind of Jim on campus or at the y m C.
A Um, yeah, I don't like you miss it that
bad dude. Well yeah, that's that's a why what are
you doing? What are you doing that? Go? At least
Raley Massamino when he missed he came back. He coached
at naa school in Florida. At least, like the weather's good.

(01:50:00):
And I like Hartford. I like West Harford a great deal,
but like, what why why? Why? Why why Calhoun now
seventy five years old at a twenty six year stint
at you call? The final round of yesterday's p G
A Championship on of Course by Justin Thomas generated a
TV rating that was down not just eight percent from

(01:50:21):
last year, but it also had the lowest TV ratings
since the final round of the two thousand eight p
G A Championship. I like Justin Thomas. I know he's
you know, he's boys with all the with all the
top young American golfer golfers, but nobody's South seems to
care right Like we have just decided we collectively don't

(01:50:42):
care about golf unless it's Tiger Woods. Maybe if all
those guys are a top the leaderboard. Um, and if
Lefty comes back or something, but we just don't like
the numbers prove that a bunch of really good young
American golfers don't do it for us. Back to the
NFL for this last one. Chicago Bears head coach John

(01:51:04):
Fox Doug says that the hype surrounding rookie quarterback Mitchell
Trubisky reminds him of you guessed it, tebow Mania, Yes,
busting it out. Quote the first time we threw Tim
Tebow out there in Denver, it was pretty similar. That
brought quite a bit of attention. There's a reason we
drafted him with the second pick in the draft. Unquote. Today,

(01:51:26):
by the way, it happens to be Tim Tebow's birthday,
making all of us feel old. Um, yeah, Tim Tebow's
thirty years old. I just I've said this like I
even during tebow Mania. I was on the air during
tebow Mania. I knew it long term would not last.
Not the style of quebe actually watched all those games
they wanted to get in the playoffs against non playoff teams.

(01:51:47):
There was some amazing things that happened. They were covered
on site. Kick against the against the Miami Dolphins. Um
who is a running back from the Bears that didn't
go out of bounds twice they could have won the
game for the Bears. And then of course Matt praytur
now with the Detroit Lions to their kicker, he was
the best kicker in football kicking in that altitude. Their
defense they're kicking and yeah, a little Tebow magic ended

(01:52:10):
up winning for them. But I mean, like, look, he's
actually having a decent year in baseball. It's been one
of the more fascinating careers to watch. Marryan Barber, that's
who was wouldn't get out of bound Marry and Barber
and uh yeah, he's forever the guy to which you
mentioned the name, and Tebow elicited some sort of energy

(01:52:31):
from you. Bag it out there and pressed that was
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(01:52:51):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Uh Peter King pointed
this out at MMQB dot com. It is like, look,
in his first eleven years his commission, Roger Grdal had
five major influential owners as cornerstones of his power base.
Right power base Pittsburgh's Dan Rooney, Carolineas, Jerry Richardson, Jerry

(01:53:15):
Jones of Dallas, Robert Craft, New England, and the Giants
John Marra. Rooney died this year. Richardson eighty one has
declining influence, although Richardson did just fired Dave Geentleman, so
he doesn't have that much declining influence, but decline influenced
maybe among owners. Uh Jones, as Adams Schafter reports, is
furious with the commissioner for the Elliott suspension, and Craft

(01:53:37):
is still wounded over the Bradys suspension and verdict. Mary
still in Goodell's corner rock solid. Peter King believes that's
quite a change for Cadell's power base. Now there's a
couple of different parts to it. First thing is, yeah,
anywhere you work, you gotta have you gotta have a
power base. If you're gonna run, You're gonna run organization
neck even in even what I do. You gotta know

(01:54:00):
who your champions are. You got to connect with those
important peoples that can build the foundation of whatever you're building,
and can when people take shots at you. They could
be like, no, no, no, he's good with me. But
let's also be honest and know that the there are
changing times in the NFL. The working with the Rams

(01:54:26):
and working with Spanos and getting them to l A
and eventually getting the stadium deal done, that's gonna help
line their pockets. They may the Rams were not previously
a owned by there was the power there, but now
one of the richest owners in the NFL owns the Rams.
They're in the second biggest market and oh yeah, by

(01:54:48):
the way, they're in l A, which is gonna be
the home and that stadium is gonna be home to
the NFL network, all tied in with the league. It's
really really smart, really smart, and so okay, maybe Jerry
Jones is mad, but all of a sudden, you've created
an ally with the owner of the l A Rams
and Stan Cronky, who also houses your TV network. It's brilliant, brilliant.

(01:55:17):
Um if you think that Robert Craft is still really
really mad, did you notice that Roger Goodell was at
the first preseason game for the Patriots and will be
at the home opener. You're mad, And the truth is,
for Roger Goodell, you simply go to Jerry Jones and say,
what what do you want me to do? I These
were not my findings. These are the findings of a

(01:55:37):
special prosecutor who we hired to investigate for the league
as our special investigator. And this is what they came
up with. And I can't bury her findings because if
I do, now the whole league is gonna pay, and
I'm That's how I'm gonna lose my job. Look, I
think Jerry Jones was mad, but I think Jerry Jones
on some level knew this was coming. That's why they

(01:55:59):
went out. And Alfred Morris he probably didn't know it
would be as bad as it is. And it may
end up being a two games suspension, three games suspension,
may not, mayna being nothing, or may nap being six.
But if you think that bygones aren't eventually bygones, just
remember this. By moving three teams, Goodell created over two
billion dollars in revenue for the rest of the owners,

(01:56:21):
including all these owners that were aforementioned. He created billions
of hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue, getting the
Thursday Night package launched with CBS for two years and
now CBS and NBC or last year and into the
coming years. He's got games in Mexico, games over games overseas.
All of that is newfounder revenue, all under Goodell. And

(01:56:44):
while they may be mad about losing a player here
or there, they're really really happy on the first and
the fifteen. And here's the thing I found about rich people.
And all these guys that owned teams are rich, really
like money. They really like money, like really really like money.

(01:57:05):
Many of them are cheap, more so than frugal men
of the merchant. Our thanks to Matt Royal, head coach
of Baylor, who joined us our thanks to David Shaw.
I thought a really interesting conversation with David Shaw about
practice time, practice intensity, and and I thought he made
a strong and sensible statement about school and athletics and

(01:57:29):
how it's hard to do him at the same time,
but it can be done. Plus, ice Cube joined us,
albeit from the speaker phone. The most l a thing
ever was ice Cue as its staples. He did join us,
and he joined us some speaker phone. If he joined
us from speaker phone like while getting botox. That would
have been the most l a thing ever. Right Ever,

(01:57:50):
he did not. It was not botox. He was at
a nail salot. It was not. Um the best thing
we got Tomorrow. Music Charlie Strong and Michael Lombardi and
Weal review Bachelor in Paradise, which starts tonight. This is
the Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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