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May 17, 2024 51 mins

On a Friday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Dan Beyer & Ryan Hollins filling in for Doug as they discuss the incident involving number one ranked golfer Scottie Scheffler and a traffic cop early Friday morning.  

Dan and Ryan go over the latest news with Scottie Scheffler and share they own traffic incidents. 

Dan and Ryan welcomed NBA Insider Marc Stein onto the show to break down what happened with the Denver Nuggets in game six, the Lakers head coaching search, and other major headlines around the NBA. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
A crazy Crazy Friday, to say the least, talking hoops,
talking golf, and yes, talking traffic. We are broadcasting live
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(00:41):
is Ryan Hollins. I'm Dan Byer in for Doug Gottlieb today.
I do want to start out first and foremost. I
am in our Tirec dot Com studios in southern California.
Ryanhollins is at our Tirec dot Com studios in Houston, Texans.
In Houston, Texas, I know there was a storm that
hit the area. Ryan, Everything is everything okay on your end,

(01:03):
Everybody safe and sound. Just want to check in because
there's some scary video coming from the city that you
live in over the past twenty four hours.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Now, I appreciate it. I'm still collecting information. We've got
power and everything here closer to the city. I know
a lot of the powers out. There is a lot
of damage downtown that I saw, and still figuring everything
else out. But I appreciate you for asking. But everything
on my end is good.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Dan good, good, good to hear, and our thoughts are
to those and Hughes. Those images were crazy with some
of the shots from downtown, so we hope that everyone
is okay. The big story of today kind of is
connected to weather. Has nothing to do with the Minnesota
Timberwolves storming over the Denver Nuggets last night and they're

(01:50):
winning the NBA playoffs to force a Game seven. It
has to do with the weather that occurred earlier today
in advance of the PGA Championship at Valhalla. It has
nothing to do with the actual storm or what happened.
Rain was in the area and there was an accident
that occurred where a pedestrian was killed, a fatal accident

(02:10):
when he was struck by I believe it may have
been a bus that was on site, causing a lot
of delays around Valhalla, and that's where Scottie Scheffler World
number one enters. This was the description of what happened
this morning by ESPN's Jeff Darlington, who was on the
scene as Scottie Scheffler got into more than just hot

(02:33):
water with officials as he was trying to navigate the
traffic situation around this accident earlier today, entering.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Valhalla Golf Club this morning, rewitnessed a car pull around
us that was Scottie Scheffler was in the car. To
be very clear about the details here, Scotti Scheffler has
been detained by police officers placed in the back of
a police vehicle in handcuffs after he tried to pull
around what he believed to be security ended up being

(03:02):
police officers.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
They told him to stop.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
When he didn't stop, the police officer attached himself to
the vehicle. Scheffer then traveled another ten yards before stopping
the car. The police officer then grabbed at his arm,
attempting to pull him out of the car before Scheffler
eventually opened the door, at which point the police officer
pulled Scheffler out of the car, pushed him up against

(03:27):
the car and immediately placed him in handcuffs. Scheffler was
then walked over to the police car, placed in the
back in handcuffs, very stunned about what was happening, looked
toward me as he was in those handcuffs and said
please help me. He very clearly did not know what

(03:50):
was happening in the situation. It moved very quickly, very rapidly,
very aggressively. He was detained in that police vehicle for
approximately twenty minutes. The police officers at that point did
not understand that Scotty Scheffler was a golfer in the tournament,
nor of course that he is a number one player

(04:12):
in the world.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
So that was the description from ESPN's Jeff Darlington again
who was on site, and Darlington actually even had some
video as they were putting Scheffler taking him to the
police car to end up taking him to jail, and
when asked what they were going to do with him,
he said, well, he's going to jail. In that situation,
I want to say something first and run your former
professional athlete. We've known stories of man. That guy seemed

(04:39):
like he was such a good guy. We guess we
just didn't know who he really was behind the scenes.
Scotty Scheffler is who Scotty Scheffler is. I think Scotty
Scheffler is a great guy, and I think that everybody
believes that Scotty Scheffler is a great guy. This has
nothing to do if Scotty Scheffler was a great guy
or not. This is everything to do with listening and
doing what you were told to do in a situation

(05:01):
that was already chaotic. And that's I think we can
all deal with this. Ryan. This isn't a professional athlete situation.
This is literally a traffic in safety situation. That's what's
surrounding Scotti Scheffler today.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
And you know, even though we're hearing you know, Jeff's
account there, I'm not saying that Jeff is wrong or anything.
You know, we don't know the exact details and we look,
I don't know police procedure, you know, if you're supposed
to hang on to a car and pull the guy out.
You know, it sounds like if there's a fatality, there
is a definitely some you know, level of urgency there.

(05:37):
And you know, I know, as an athlete sometimes we
feel entitled to, Oh, well, whatever's going on here, I
gotta get around because I gotta I gotta play today.
I have to compete, you know, and that sometimes is
a mindset. So hopefully things can work its way out.
Hopefully the officer, you know, wasn't injured. But it just

(05:58):
seems like a lot of confusion here in this matter.
And as just saying, I agree, it's sounds like it's
just these things escalated very quickly. You know, you never
want to see anything like that, and you know, hopefully
you can, you know, get back to the sport. But
I think it's it's important to reserve judgment here, but
also important, like you said, hey man, when you're told

(06:18):
to do something, there's a sensitive situation and as an athlete,
again I've been there before. Oh just let me around.
Oh oh it's okay, I'm supposed to be here. Man,
Sometimes those things don't go over well. And for the golfers,
you know, he probably never should have been driving himself.
He should have There should have been security there, updating
those guys to where they're never in that in that situation,

(06:42):
so there should have been a team around him. He
never should have been one on one addressing an officer.
There should have been some type of of of help there.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
What what is unique in that, just in that situation
is I've seen this more than a couple of times
where the player drives in the caddy ride shotgun and
to me for their relationship on the course, it is
so unique where I'm thinking to myself, hey, man, just
let the caddy drive. And I don't know if his caddy,
Ted Scott, was with him in the vehicle at the time,

(07:13):
but it's funny Ran that this conversation comes up because,
and I'm bringing in Jason Stewart, our show's executive producer,
I'm having deja vu from at least at some point
in the last month or two when we talked about
just driving and when someone goes flying past you on
the highway, how you just have your fingers crossed that
they're going to be pulled over on the side of

(07:35):
the road, like within a half mile by a police
car who's busted them speeding. That happened recently, didn't it,
I think?

Speaker 6 (07:43):
So it was a couple of weeks back, and you
and I battle the four or five every day on
the way home. For those around the country, the four
to five Freeway, probably the most impacted freeway in the world,
and there are just halts. You're stopped on the freeway,
and then you see that car make the decision to
go on the shoulder to get where they need to be,
and you know in that person's head that whatever he's

(08:06):
doing to break the law, it's justified because he really
needs to be somewhere. Like the hundreds of us other
cars could spend time wasted in traffic, but that one
guy really needs.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
To be somewhere.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
It's very important, and he's fully justified in his own mind.
And that's what this Scheffer thing kind of reminds me of.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
It totally reminds me to that. And it's not that
it's the the arrogant portion of it Ron and Jason
that Scotty Scheffler believes because he's a player. There obviously
was a point where Scotty Scheffler was told you need
to go to this point, and players and other officials
are being let in. But also when someone tells you

(08:43):
to stop, don't go anywhere, you know what you do,
You stop and you don't go anywhere, You don't try
to move around, especially in a scenario where there was
a fatality. When someone is hit by a shuttle bus
and loses their life, you don't know that, just like
the car that's flying past you on the freeway on

(09:04):
the median doesn't realize yet the accident that's actually holding
everybody up is on that median that they're may be
cruising fifty miles per hour down the road like It's
just it's simple to me. And I've listened to the broadcast.
I've read the tweets and the memes. By the way
for what is a serious situation off the chain like

(09:25):
crazy creative, but in what is a serious situation the
way that the broadcast has handled it, I don't know
necessarily how I would would would shape this because Scotty
Scheffler is playing some darn good golf right now, even
after all of this happening. But they're almost giving him
credit for being able to bounce back and be able

(09:46):
to be in the frame of mind right now where
he's five under on his round today and three shots
back of the lead. Where imagine going through what he's
gone through and being able to play and do that.
None of that matters. And I don't know if you
have to keep on addressing it, and I don't know
how you handle it in the broadcast, but the fact
of the matter is this, someone in the yellow coat,

(10:08):
whether you thought it was a cop or he didn't
know if it was a cop or not, was telling
you to stop because of a chaotic situation. And you
know what you did. You didn't stop. You didn't stop
at all. You didn't do what they asked. So there's
no way, no possibility at any point do I actually
feel bad for Scottie Scheffler If you're not listening to
what is happening at five in the morning, when nobody's

(10:30):
there's no lights except the flashing lights, and there's someone
who lost their life because of an accident, it's got
to be chaotic. It's got to be crazy. But I'm sorry,
like he was in the wrong. If he didn't, if
he didn't stop when they told him to stop, then
it's Scotty Scheffler's fault.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, And again he's got to be escorted by security.
He should have somebody driving him and somebody knowledgeable about
what's going on, so you know, from a security team
if there is ever an issue, or there would be
ethic or you know, obviously a different situation. Unfortunately, there's
a fatality, condolences to the family. You know, when I

(11:07):
played in LA with the Clippers, you'd have situations where
they would redo the floor or there would be a
quick changeover because the Kings were there, the Lakers were
there at the same time, and it would be known, Hey,
you can't get on the floor till this time. Hey
there's going to be traffic. You might want to leave
it a little early. So you know, those updates should
be immediately sent out. And again, like you said, he

(11:30):
should have been driving, you know, he shouldn't have been driving,
or there should have been communication, because it does it
seems like there's a lot of miscommunication. But nonetheless, you're right, Dan,
if somebody says, don't do something, it's really hard to
get you know, get over that. And you know, glad
that he's able to get back to golf.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
And Scheffler even released a statement saying, I never intended
to disregard any of the instructions. I thought I was
doing what I was being asked to do. And if
that's the case, if he didn't, if he didn't understand
what was going on, that's his side of the story.
But it's not a free pass. It's a it's not
an opportunity to say, okay, well, hey, we're all good here. Now.

(12:13):
He didn't understand what he was doing. I didn't mean
to hold on that passing play on third and fifteen.
You didn't. So that was my take away. The penalty, No,
it doesn't doesn't work like just because he didn't understand
the scenario or what was actually being said. If you violated,
if he did what was wrong. Now, the police reports
also come under fire because they wrote that the eighty

(12:35):
dollars uniform or the pants that the officer was wearing,
we're a complete loss. That seems to be adding on
just a little bit if you're the Louisville Police Department.
The officer did suffer injuries to his wrist and knee
in trying to get Scotty Scheffler out. There's some people
who are being critical of how they handled Scheffler in
that scenario. Again, it's not up to them to know

(12:55):
if it's the world number one or not. But if
you are having a situation where someone is not following
the rules that you are believed to trying to be enforcing,
I'm sorry you have to yet that chao, that situation
is already chaotic as it is, so you're doing what
you're doing. I don't fault the police officer in this

(13:17):
scenario for doing the actions that they had. It just
you You've already got one loss of life. You don't
want to have another situation where someone's actions because you
didn't stop them, caused another.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Is that smart though?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I mean, like I said, i I'm not you know,
adapt in that you know situation. But would it be
smart for an officer to hang onto a car and
pull somebody out? Is there you know, a better means?
You know, it's it seems risk in your your life
in itself.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
And yeah, it's a very fair point. It's a you know,
to to hold onto the car and the actions of
what Scottie Scheffler did after disobeying. And to the point
of if that you're saying, if that caused the injuries
to the to the officers unwarranted actions cause his own injuries?
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yes? Is that? I like I said, I don't know
police procedure.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
I don't know, but I don't think if someone is
really trying to get away from you, right, hanging onto
the car and pulling him out the car doesn't seem
like the you know, the smartest choice, right and that
that car just takes off.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
You're going for a ride.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
You're not gonna win that battle, you know. But again
I will say, I don't know police procedure. I'm just
speaking for my own ignorance.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, I know, it's a very fair point, Jason Stewart.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
Ryan, you have rolled with VIPs, you know, teammates, people
that make tens of millions of dollars and are expected
to be treated a certain way when they are out
and about, And I think that can't be lost in
this story. I think a lot of Scheffer's actions were
based in that entitlement. People don't don't say no to

(15:00):
this guy. People should know who he is, especially if
you're a cop in the city where a golf major is.
You should know who I am and you should allow
me to I just think that that should be the
takeaway here. I think there's a there's like a privilege
and an entitlement in the story that needs to be
at the very least mentioned, if not headlined, in this

(15:21):
It's to me that's the off putting.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Part of this.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
I mean you've been in those situations, Ryan, don't you
think there was some entitlement here?

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, no, one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
And sounds like there's entitlement, But you know, the real
question comes about of just why he didn't have a driver. So,
for instance, when I was with the Clippers, Chris, when
Chris would come to games, Chris had a driver.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Chris had security, he had a driver. There is not.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
A high profile player you play with her. You'd see
the NBA for the most part, that doesn't have a drier.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
The driver.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
You can say, you probably know this. Jon doesn't have
a guy. You'll see somebody. Oh that's his guy. You know,
that's that's you know, Hey, that's Lebron's guy. Right there,
that's someone's guy right there. You know that's Anthony Davis's guy. Okay,
so you'll know. And that person is supposed to mitigate
any type of confusion, any instances or you know, even hey,

(16:22):
drive you to the game, drive you to these situations.
And when you get to this level, your stepping is
the number one call for the world. You should not
be driving yourself to these events, you know, especially not
on game days. So you can do what and Dan,
you said it focus on what you need to do,
which is golf. They don't pay you to drive, They
pay you.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
To golf, and you're doing a darn good job of it.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
So any factor variable that can come in between that
you need to be paying so in a lot of
money so that you, who clearly was confused in this matter,
will never be in this situation where you can be
confused because he was an adept to understand what was
going on here.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
It's you know, we're getting We're getting responses as well
on social media. Hit Ryan up at the Ron Hollins.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. People
asking us that the cop was probably being pretty rude
to Scotty Scheffler. Again, we don't know that. Someone else
pointed out that the police report falls apart that the

(17:25):
officers attempt to give the instruction to Scotti Scheffler may
have failed at that point, and then at that point
it's off the I don't I don't believe that if
Scotty Scheffler is not getting the messages, he can't just
plead ignorance. It's just the way it is. I don't
know the procedure, but if a cop was injured Yeah,

(17:47):
then in whatever place it is, you can't just let
it fly. So the procedures that came through from what
I've seen, it all started with Scotty Scheffler's decision, whether
we knew it or not, not obey the rules that
were needed in that scenario, and that's how we got
to this point. I don't think that Scotty Scheffler is
a bad guy at all. His statement actually hit all

(18:08):
the points. And again, there was a life that was
lost today that caused all of this chaos. But to
you know, for a guy who's going to shoot sixty
seven and trying to go for back to back majors
and halfway through the Grand Slam, it's one heck of
a performance on the course, but it shouldn't overshadow what
actually happened earlier today, and that started with a bad

(18:30):
decision by Scotty Scheffler. He's Ryan holland Tom dan Byert's
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Speaker 2 (18:45):
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This morning, we're gonna hear from the world number one,
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Grand Slam in twenty twenty four. We are going to

(19:27):
hear from him in a bit. Also in twenty five
minutes or so, Ryan Hollins, we are going to put
you to the test and how well you know your career?
Are you ready for that?

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Oh? Gosh, yeah, really Dan?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yes? Yes? How well does Ryan Hollins know? Ryan Hollins?
It's a game we're gonna call is Ryan Lyon. That's
what we are going to do in about twenty five
minutes or so, and it may it's maybe more of
a memory game for you, but you can play along
at home. But that's gonna come up in about twenty
five minutes. It's gonna be fun. Trust me, there will

(20:04):
be nothing to worry about.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Ryann for you, fun for me.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I think it's gonna be fun for everyone. Jason Stewart
nodding in approval.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
I thought, you know, Jason's gonna have fun.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Isaac Lohin Crown, I know he's putting it all together.
His evil his evil master planned that. Again. Coming up
near the bottom of the hour, we do want to
dive into Caitlin Clark's nine point performance last night as
the fever fell to the New York Liberty and the WNBA,
and really, again, the Caitlin Clark conversation just never ends,

(20:34):
even once he only has nine points. We'll get to
that in a second, but we do have to start
out with the story of the day. You heard Isaac
Lohncron and if you didn't, Scottie Shuffler's nine under par
at the PGA Championship, currently in a tie for third
and currently two shots back of the lead. He shot
sixty six today that's a round of five under par.
His day started by getting booked in jail after he

(20:56):
was brought in for not following the commands of a
Pola police officer and allegedly dragging that police officer a
short distance in his car. After Scheffler didn't obey the
commands of an officer during a traffic backup after a
person was killed earlier today a pedestrian struck by shuttle bus,
so traffic was backed up at Valhalla, long lines of

(21:18):
traffic to get into the golf course. Scheffler, Well, I'll
tell you what. Let's hear from Scotty Scheffler and what
he went through this morning and how this all started.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
It's just a huge misunderstanding this morning that that'll get resolved,
I think fairly quickly. And yeah, I mean I came
here for a golf tournam and I was I was
driving in this morning, trying to get to my warm
up time.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
And get ready for the round of golf.

Speaker 8 (21:42):
You know, I didn't really have an understanding of what
had transpired this morning, and you know, my main focus
after you know, getting arrested, was you know, wondering if
I could be able to come back out here and play,
and you know, fortunately I was able to do that,
and yeah, it was nice to put together a solid
round today.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
So that was Scottie Scheffler. He did start out his
press conference mentioning the person who passed away and giving
his condolences to the family. Scheffler explaining, when you hear that,
Ryan Hollins, are you are you good with Scotty Scheffler?
Does that change anything with how you feel? I know
that you were skeptical on why a cop car may

(22:20):
need to put them sell or a police officer may
need to put themselves attached to the vehicle that Scotty
Scheffler was driving. Are you fine with what Scotty Scheffler
said on that piece?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
It's everything because if they're a moment where he says,
you know, my rights were violated, I was yanked out
of a He may have a case to say that,
but the fact that he realized the main point in
all of this and we weren't there, We're assuming. Let's

(22:51):
assume right now the urgency from the policeman is because
somebody passed away, and I hope that they were adult
enough to have that conversation. And it sounds like at
some point it was that's what this is about. There's
someone who didn't make it out today, and that's what's important.

(23:12):
That's what was addressed. And I love that he said,
we'll figure out the rest of this stuff later. We'll
figure it out later. So hats off. That's the way
you handle it. That's the mature way. And we have
seen people unfortunately handle situations like this wrong and point
of finger. Hey, I was violated. I was, and worry

(23:32):
about all of the wrong things. So hats off to him.
Emotions fly high, especially in his sport and you know,
day of competition. So I just I absolutely love the
way that he responded.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Here, let's hear more from Scotti Scheffler and talking about
what he went through this morning.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
I mean, they're really kind.

Speaker 8 (23:54):
I'm grateful to have I'm grateful that we have, you know,
such strong police and you know, they're our protectors out there,
and you know, like I said, we just got into
a chaotic situation this morning. That's really all it was.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Again playing it correctly. This doesn't move me off my
point of if an officer tells you to stop, you
have to stop. And if you didn't understand the officers commands.
That's on you and not on him or her. It's
on you as the person, and ignorance in being naive
is not an excuse in these situations. So for how

(24:27):
this all started in that scenario, I again, nothing that
Scotty Scheffler has said has made me change my thoughts
on how this could have been avoided. I do think
that Scotty Scheffler is handling this remarkably well. And here's
more of what he said this morning about just actually
what happened when he got to jail and so forth.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
I was just so confused at what was happening at
the time that you know, I didn't know what time
it was. I didn't know what was going on. But
when I was sitting in like the holding cell or whatever,
there was a TV there and I could see myself
on the TV on ESPN and it was Get Up
was on, and so in the corner it showed the
time and they said they were delayed, and I was
kind of thinking about my tea time. I was like, well,
maybe you know, I could be able to get out.

(25:08):
You know, the officers downstairs and you know, they were
they were discussing how long it was going to take
me to get released. You know, obviously you have to
go through all the due process and everything, and you know,
I was able to kind of see a bit of
the TV, and you know, then I laid down, and
then I started to stretch a little bit, once I
got my heart rate down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Good to know that the TVs and the Louisville Jail
are at least on the important stuff. Get up the
show on. Yes, maybe they're just I mean, sure, you
know the the tournaments in town. They're gonna be broadcasting
the tournament. I get that. But I'll tell you I
got I got a ticket about a decade ago, just
outside of of work here. Not trying to compare my

(25:46):
situation to Dan already, No, I'm just all I'm going
to say, is all. All I'm going to say is
this is I did not do anything wrong, but I
still got a ticket and there was nothing that I
could say to the officer to change his mind. It
bothered me for days. It bothered me for days. And
for him to have this perspective to be able to

(26:10):
move on from that. I've always I've always been enaborn
with guys who just have tons of speeding tickets because
it just doesn't bother them or they just pay the fine.
And I'm like, how does that work? How do you
how do you not care? Like, don't you have that
bit of anxiety in your stomach when you see the
lights behind your car? Like I mean, that's that's the part.
Ryan Hollin said. You know, Scotty Scheffler was just booked,

(26:33):
had his picture taken in an orange jumpsuit, by the way,
which is crazy enough just the visual of seeing that.
But for him to put this round together and then
put that into that perspective in that way something I
would not be able to do.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Maybe he felt like, and I'm assuming here it was
a misunderstanding. It's it's an important deal, but it's not
like a make or break deal in you know, hey,
I should be able to get out of here. But
I think you know, as a great athlete, those guys

(27:09):
know how to perform under pressure. And the reason I
love sports, especially like you know, for the kids, is
because you get put in high pressure situations, and in
those high pressure situations, you know how to react. It's
the reason why the Michael Jordan's are great, the Kobe Bryants,

(27:33):
the Tiger Woods, the Tom Brady's. When those guys get
under pressure, they perform, And we're seeing this from Scheffler.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
It's crazy, Chris profetso technical producer. You wanted to getting
in on the bubble guts on getting a ticket or what?

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Yeah, I ended up.

Speaker 9 (27:51):
I think I rolled through a stop sign one time,
and not only did I think about it for a while,
but like to your point about I don't understand people
who just keep getting tickets.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
But then my insurance went like way.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Up, and then every stop side you stop at is
for three seconds. Yeah, no, California, f what's way up?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
What's what's way up? Mean? Give me a number?

Speaker 9 (28:11):
What's way from about like here in California. Let's say
I think the monthly was like one hundred and seventy before.
Now I'm paying about three hundred a month.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Oh oh gosh for a rolling stop. Yeah, one ticket
on my record.

Speaker 9 (28:29):
That's enough for all the insurance companies to be like, no,
you're going up to the next team. I'm cleaned otherwise,
completely clean. Otherwise, Scotty, do.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
We need to find you better insurance?

Speaker 9 (28:38):
I mean there's I literally shopped around to like avoid this,
and everyone told me the same.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Scotty Scheffler has two things that we don't have though,
is we don't have the people that will be behind him.
And let's be frank, the money. Yeah, that's the like,
that's that. That is also the the other factor in
all of this, which is.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
So you're saying, and that's why he wasn't worried the money.
That's why he sat in jail in the jumpsuit.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I'm saying, that's why he can maybe talk a little
easier about it now than then because of that worry.
I'm sure as soon as Chris Purfett got that ticket,
he thought, my goodness, what is going to happen? What
are my insurance rates going to be? What kind of
fine am I going to have to pay? And those
are And that's why that's why I'm the I'm this,

(29:28):
I'm the same way. I'm the exact same way. So
I can never understand why there I got a bunchet
of speeding and barking tickets, Like, how in the world
does that not eat at you? Not only like having
them and maybe not even paying them or whatever people
have done, maybe they have paid them and just don't care.
But just the fact of being being pulled over. I
just I don't get it. Isaac long Crew.

Speaker 10 (29:48):
Well Dan on that point, we have a colleague in
our line of work whose name I won't mention, but
you know his name is so distinctive everybody would get
it immediately.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Is it Bob Marker?

Speaker 10 (30:03):
Unfortunately no, But he drives in the carpool lane by
himself all the time, and he plays the percentages and
if he gets a ticket, he's totally cool with it.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
So we got it, Mason myth don't.

Speaker 10 (30:16):
Believe it or not, And I better quit while I'm
while I'm ahead. But yeah, he is totally not bothered
by the time. Maybe it's you know what, maybe it's
two co workers in colleagues.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh gosh, oh great, Yeah, you know, my mom got
a ticket. My mom got a ticket speeding him in
our hometown. She just wasn't realizing in her the way
that she put it was I probably should have gotten
a ticket before. Uh you know, it was for all

(30:51):
the other times that I maybe should have, But at
the time she didn't feel that she was speeding. But
she got a ticket anyway, And she said, count that up.
Chalk that up to all the other time that I
probably was I thought that was a very positive way
of thinking about it.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Such a mom think you dude.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
But but there's no way that I can think like that.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Oh hold on, Dan, you could get away with nothing
growing up if that's how your mom thinks.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
I can hear the speeches you know what, Dan, No,
do you deserve this? You deserve a lot.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I thought, you know what, that actually could could ease
my worries, but it bothered me for days. So to
hear Scheffler talk about that, which had to be by
the way to be the world number one, to be
in handcuffs, and then going the other way of the
traffic that is backed up for miles. I don't know
if they they probably didn't know that Scotty Scheffler was
in the back seat of that car. But but yeah,

(31:42):
I mean to be able to handle. Did we play
the Scheffler in the back seat and what the cop
was saying? The point is is Scheffler also said that
the officer that took him in was great and kind
of help him calm down. He had a great sad
great guy didn't have pants on so he can drive
Shuffler in. Stop it. It's true, that's true. They they

(32:07):
a different officer.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Pants that they get caught in the door, that.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
They were ripped. There was an eighty dollars. It was
a total loss.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
When they were ripped or they came off.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
They were they were they were damaged beyond repair. I'll
give you an official I honestly does that mean you
can probably search eighty dollars pants in Twitter? Yes, here
it is. Yeah, I just searched it. There. It was
the uh this was This was from the police report
from the Louisville Police Department. Detective Gillis's uniform pants, valued

(32:43):
at approximately eighty dollars were damaged beyond repair. That is
that was that was put into the.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
You are you are a man of the people. You
are unbelievable. You know that right now.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
This is this is included in the police report. So
he would not have taken He also had a wrist
and knee injury because of the incident, and so another
I'm sure you know obviously that's.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Not you know, we're not laughing at we're laughing at
the pants.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yes, really, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
At least I'm like, now, Dan, I can't speak for you.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's well, just the you know, the eighty dollars pants.
It must be you know, pretty nice pair of pants, right,
I mean, geez yeah, yeah yeah, a nice pair of doctors.
And and and there were people who were pointing out
on social media that you're wearing a yellow a yellow
vest or you know, yellow jacket. How could you tell
if it was a police officer or not. Again, they're
wearing a yellow jacket to be seen but also to

(33:38):
direct you and tof.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Wa wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.
They weren't wearing like police outfits.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Well, it was rare. It was because it was dark,
so they were wearing I mean, his pants were navy,
but they were wearing a yellow vest jacket.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
So they didn't. They just looked like traffic guys. They
didn't look like cop.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
It doesn't matter, doesn't matter, this matters. Were the volunteer
that's trying to organize chaos in a concert parking lot
should not be listened to, Like that's what they're there for,
that's what you.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Well you know, I'm not saying you shouldn't be listened to,
but you don't think you're going to the slammer for
not listening.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Again, that's where the where ignorance is not an excuse
on Scottie Scheffler's part.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Dan, let's see you're listen. I see Mama Byer speaking
through you right now, and your your your diligence.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
You're not going to give the same respect to the.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
You know, the you know the if it's not a shop,
you should.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
You didn't think it was a cop, you should.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
You should give more respect to them because they're not
getting paid as much and they're there. That's that should
be the deal. They're they're probably working for, you know,
not even not even close to what what an officer gets, obviously,
and doing it on a part time work without the
security of a pension or insurance or anything else. But
we're gonna we're gonna just not care what they say

(35:06):
and do what we want to do.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
I'm not saying to do that.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I'm saying maybe because of that he didn't think it
was as serious, but clearly it was, Dan, And I'm
not I'm not challenging that, Dan.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I just I think, Hey, that doesn't matter. You gotta
gotta listen. And fortunately for Scotty Scheffler, he disobeyed a
police officer.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
What if this was a thing where Scotty was playing
the percentages. What he was he was just speeding by
the volunteers at every single event, and this time he
played the percentages wrong.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
And that who said played the percentages?

Speaker 5 (35:42):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Wait? That was that was Jason? That was that was him? Well,
then guess what came up? Snake eyes. It's gonna bite you.
It's gonna bite you for that. That was the that
was the that was the person or was that the Isaac?
Who was it Isaac or Jason? Who had the car
was at the carpool lane. Here's the Isaac that that.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
You're hanging right now?

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Everybody's doing work. Well, I'm glad we got to hear
from Scotty Scheffler. All right, the uh it'll this By
the way, this story in that mugshot will hang around
for for a long time. But man, was it chaotic
this morning with all of this, Like we heard the
Jeff Darlington report and again someone's life was lost, which
is so so unfortunate, and the chaos that ensued after that.

(36:30):
This story will will not go away. Whoever wins this
will obviously be the champion of this PGA Championship. This
will probably be the second thing that you remember from
it was remember what happened to Scotty Scheffler that Friday
morning before the second round. There's no doubt about that.
All right, he's Ryan allins. I'm sorry, go ahead, have
the last word.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
If Scotty wins this, are you going to be happy
for him?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yes? I I true believe he's a good guy. I
just think that he made a mistake, and everybody people
make mistakes, and and so he made him and there
should be a punishment for it. And that's that's how
I feel. I think he is a great guy. I
actually think at times when we say you don't know
the real person, I actually think we do know who
Scotty Scheffler is. You know, the golfers are like if

(37:14):
you're outside of Tiger Woods and maybe Rory McElroy, you
know they're they can go into grocery stores and it's
not a big deal. You're not like, hey, that's professional golfer,
so and so that doesn't happen. I think with other
sport baseball, football, basketball, hockey, I think you know, like,
all right, that guy's an athlete. But I think that
golfers blend in. They're pretty normal. I feel like we

(37:37):
kind of know who Scotty Scheffler is.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Dan, you're telling me you never rolled a stop.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Sign, maybe once or twice, and and hey, if I
do get busted, someday it'll be for all the time.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Someday it's a thing.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
There you go, Dad, He's Ryan Allens. I'm Dan Byer
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Pacers try to force a Game seven. They're at home
in Indianapolis taking on the New York Knicks in their
Game six. Last night's Game six saw the Timberwolves destroy

(38:33):
the Denver Nuggets, setting up for a Game seven coming
up on Sunday. Joining us now good friend of the
show that joins the Doug Gottlieb Show. Every week he
publishes a substack called the steinline and his co host
of the podcast This League Uncut with fellow insider Chris
Haynes Find It Where You podcast, Mark Stein joins the
program again. All right, Mark, explain how Denver can jump

(38:57):
out to a nine to lead Minnesota, call timeouts a
couple of minutes in, and then at the end it's
a forty five point win for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Just
what we all get believing in the Nuggets they lose
by forty five. How does this snowball effect occur with
a team that a lot of people feel are going
to repeat as NBA champions.

Speaker 11 (39:17):
I don't know that I have a better answer for
you beyond this has been a series of the inexplicable.
I mean, the whole thing has been a roller coaster
that you know, we look, a lot of us pick
this thing to go seven. I had Nuggets in seven
from the beginning, but certainly this was not my roadmap

(39:41):
to see how good Minnesota was in the first two games.
Just the epic rebound we got from Denver in the
next three. And you know, I was guiding myself after
two because I was definitely one of those people who
I wasn't saying that Denver was done, the series was over,

(40:02):
and it was going to be a sweep. But I
certainly didn't envision the Nuggets storming back to win the
next three, even though you know, it's only been five
times in NBA history that his team has lost the
first two at home and gone on to win a
best of seven series. But I've actually covered two of them.
I've seen two of them from very close range, and

(40:23):
I know Ryan certainly remembers the last one, you know,
Dallas Houston in five. So that was a wild one
where Dallas lost the first two and one in seven.
And then in twenty twenty one, we had that crazy
Mavericks Clippers first round series where the home team lost
the first six games, just bizarre. So it can be done,

(40:46):
and you know, those were teams that didn't have championship pedigree.
But for Denver to go up three to two and
just get completely blown off the floor and their starting lineup,
I think it's minus fifty for the series if I'm
reciting that that properly, which is just you know, we
have such you know, the questions about the Nuggets. We're

(41:08):
all about the death and you know, a big question
mark now going into Game seven, Jamal Murray's elbow? How
you know how serious is it? Will he look more
like Jamal Murray in Game seven?

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Do you feel like this last game and even just
a series and a hole? Has this told us more
about the Nuggets? Or has it told us more about Minnesota?
Because you know, that's the fun about playoff basketball is
you know, we want to jump off the ledge each
and every game. But who does it say more about?

(41:44):
Is this Anthony Edwards arrival? First, Yoka is just the
greatest thing since slight Spread, and then it's like, well,
you know, hey, he's he's not the MVP that you
should you know, we think he is. Who does this
say more about?

Speaker 11 (41:58):
You know what I'm going to say minutes and look on.
The one reason you might want to answer Denver is
because the last season the Nuggets were sixteen and four
in the playoffs, they were tied two to two with Phoenix,
They were tied one to one in the finals before
winning the last three games. But they were never in

(42:19):
serious oh my god adversity in the playoffs. They basically
played him from in front almost exclusively, whereas this time
they were at two down and you've lost to at home,
they're facing absolute dire circumstances. So I think the three
game rebound in Game three, four and five did tell
us a lot about Denver, But I would say it's

(42:40):
more a validation of this Wolves team that we saw
all season long, that led the league in defense all
season long, and we didn't want to believe in them
in the playoffs because we hadn't seen it. And this
is just this is the way it always is in
the NBA, fair or not. We don't believe in you

(43:02):
until we see you do the ultimate, and then when
we see you do the ultimate and win it all,
we probably believe in you too much. And I think
that does apply. It has applied in this series series
at various points. But really, to me, I think Minnesota,
no matter what happens in Game seven, for them to

(43:22):
win the first two what they did last night. And remember,
their coach can't even coach the way he properly should.
And I've covered Chris Binch for a long time. I
met him years before he ever got to the NBA.
I feel stick for him that he doesn't have this
opportunity to coach in this series against the Denver team

(43:43):
he previously worked for and so you know, the Wolves
have undeniably been impressive. This was you know, I think
this was a series a lot of people looked forward
to because these two have looked like the two best
teams in the West all seasons, and we've ended up
in the place where this became a seven game heavyweight battle.

(44:08):
But just we got here through a really really weird
set of circumstances.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Mark Stein joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. He's Ryan Hollins, the NBA Vet.
I'm Dan Byer in for Doug, hitting markup on X
at the steinline, as you just kind of broke down
how we view the Nuggets and how we view the Timberwolves.
Is that the same with the Mavericks thunder series? Or
is it a matter of Dallas, the more veteran team

(44:35):
Oklahoma City really getting their first taste of postseason basketball
this far? Is it as simple as that with this series?
Is it Dallas just better? How is Dallas up three
to two?

Speaker 11 (44:48):
Well? This has been another one. Yeah, where I say
we've seen quite a use, quite a few surprises because
the Mavericks they're so defense first now and I think
Ryan would back me up on this. You know, for
years and years and years, you never talked about the
Dallas defense. Now when they won it all in twenty eleven,

(45:11):
certainly Tyson Chandler brought a rim presence and a defensive
element that they hadn't had before, and Sean Marian could
guard you know, pretty much every position on the floor.
But you still thought of Naviski first. And this is
a high octane team that can you know, it's the
matchup problems that Navisky causes. That's what you thought of

(45:31):
first with the Mavericks. But this team, you know, Luka
Doncic and Kyrie Irvings, they have not been the every
night dominant duo that I was expecting in this series.
I mean, Kyrie Irving has been held below ten points twice.
Luka Doncic has obviously had well chronicled struggles until the

(45:52):
masterpiece he put together in Game five. So the Mavericks
are winning in a new way for them, and you know,
they just they change their team dramatically at the trade deadline,
and so they've just really settled into this new identity
really really quickly. And I don't think Jason Kidd has
gotten enough credit for how much he's gotten out of

(46:13):
this team. But the only thing that matters more than credit,
you got a contract extension, and a wholly deserved contract extension.
When I look at the thunderside, I do think it's
an experienced thing, and I do think that you know,
a lot of people will say Oklahoma City had all
the trade assets, why didn't they go out and get
more size at the deadline or do something more dramatic.

(46:34):
But I really believe that Sam Presty and the way
the thunder have looked at this is they wanted to
see these young guys on the playoff stage and factor
that into the evaluation as they figure out how to
go forward, to see how these guys adjust as they
move onto the big stag. Look, the series is not over.

(46:56):
I mean, Oklahoma City is very capable of winning tomorrow
night and taking it back home for a Game seven.
The way this whole second round has been, like you said,
I mean, momentum has been so fleeting. It seems to
really swing game to game to game to games. So
I'm not writing the Thunder off. I did think Dallas

(47:16):
was the better team, the more ready to win team
coming into the series, but another feather in the MAVs
cap here. If they can finish this off they're doing
without doing it without Maxi Kleiba, who really is He
would be their small ball five, and he's much better
equipped in a lot of situations to play against Oklahoma
City the way the Thunder play. So if Dallas could

(47:37):
win this series without one of their most important big men,
it is it is quite a quite a coup for them.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Have we been fair to Nikola Jokic? Don't?

Speaker 3 (47:48):
I don't know if I've ever seen a more scrutinized
player with the accolades of Nikola Jokic, And if so, if.

Speaker 11 (47:56):
Not, why, I don't know if it's just a function
of just now there literally is twenty four hour a
day chatter when the game is not happening, and so
there's just this non stop discussion. But I mean, I
don't people in the league, anyone I talked to you

(48:19):
in the league with teams, you know, coaches, players, executives,
whoever it is. I mean, I hear nothing, but you know,
admiration for him and respect for how good he is.
And like within NBA circles, you don't hear anyone doubting
him or discrediting him, and you know what he did

(48:39):
in Game five was just ridiculous. I mean, you mean
you were a center, you would at the guard. I
mean you'd be at the guard, Yokich if you were
playing on this Minnesota team. So I'm sure you were
looking at the same man that That wouldn't have been
fun trying to deal with him and all the things
he can do. So, you know, the discordiz whatever it is.

(49:01):
But I think one OF's great strength is he tooes
it all out too like, I just don't think he's
paying a great deal of attention to the noise either.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
We're gonna wrap it up with Mark Stein with this question,
joining us here at the Doug Gottlieb Show a lot
from the tirec dot Com studios. It's obviously been an
interesting week for us on this show. Doug's now the
men's basketball coach at Green Bay. There's an NBA team
that's looking for a head coach, and that would be
the Lakers. JJ Redick is a top candidate for that job.

(49:30):
I've only heard positives on how it could work with
JJ Redick. Is there is there a reason why maybe
we aren't being critical of the Lakers putting JJ Redick
near the top of their candidate list to be their
their next head coach. Am I missing something, Mark, It's
just I.

Speaker 11 (49:47):
Would say, I would say around the league, like you know,
basically the whole NBA was in Chicago this week at
the pre draft camp. There is a lot of curiosity
and you know, outlighted skepticism about how do you put
a first time coach, someone who has never coached anything
beyond youth basketball, how do you put JJ Reddick in

(50:08):
probably the hottest feat in certainly it's the most scrutinized
coaching seat in the NBA and you know around the world.
I mean, it would be a very short list of
head coach slash manager positions that you would say come
with the pressure, expectation and scrutiny that coaching the Lakers does.
So there is undoubtedly questions and skepticism around the league

(50:35):
about the Lakers really do this. But you know, again,
I think JJ Reddick is best described as the early favorites.
They are going to talk to a lot of assistant
coaches around the league, and some of them, like James
Barrego and Kenny Atkinson, have been head coaches before some
like Sam Cassell and Chris Quinn have not gotten a

(50:57):
head coaching shot yet but have been in coaching churches before.
So I look, I think they're going to cast a
wide net. They're in no rush. They don't have to rush.
The only other opening is the Washington Wizards, and the
Wizards are rebuilding team. They're not really competing with the
Lakers for the same candidates, and a lot of people
around the league think Brian Keith's going to get He's

(51:18):
going to get to keep the Wizard's job anyway, So
the Lakers can take their time to try to find
the right guy. But no, If JJ Reddick is the
guy they choose, I think that's all we'll be talking
about is how does he step into that job as
a first time coach.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
He publishes a substack called the Steinliner, and as the
co host of the podcast This League Uncut The Fellow
ins outa Chris Haynes Find it Where are You podcast?
Mark Stein appreciate it, joy the games this weekend. We'll
talk to you next week. Mark.

Speaker 11 (51:43):
Thanks sounds good guys,
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