December 6, 2024 • 51 mins
On this edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug welcomes college football analyst and talk show host Danny Kanell onto the show to break down the college football playoff bracket.
Doug gives his take on Bill Belichick's reported interest in the head coaching job at the University of North Carolina. Doug welcomes Former NFL Executive and former Bucs' GM Mark Dominik to talk about the Dan Campbell, Brock Purdy and all of the other major headlines around the NFL.
Doug explains why he was right all along on Lonzo Ball's injury history being linked to his father's Big Baller Brand shoes and he was right about racism not being a factor in Eric Bienemy not getting an NFL head coaching job.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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from Inside Carolina. Carolina source confirmans to Inside Carolina report
that Bill Belichick interviewed for UNC's head coaching job. Quote
he blew them away in the interview, told the Belichick's
interest is high and genuine, but extremely unlikely to happen
due to his age and lack of college experience. If
you don't hire Bill Belichick because of his age and
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lack of college experience, and I get it, like you're
coming off of Mac Brown, who's older, right, and obviously
a legend in college. And they tried to run that
back the same way they did last time he's at Carolina.
Didn't work. But like, what are we doing? You know,
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I mean, is it wrong Ja Stu to mention the
girlfriend is that low hanging fruit. I didn't say that.
You know, he wanted to get her in state tuition
so she could figure finish up her degree. I didn't
say that. My point is, and I'm not talking about
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that thing. I'm just saying he does have the energy
to have a twenty something in the year old girlfriend.
Right see him riding bikes, He's doing TV, He's doing
all this other stuff. Like why is it so hard
to think that he couldn't do the college thing. My
guess would be, if he doesn't get the job, it's
because he wanted to do it to then hand it
off to his son and they don't want that. That
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would be my guess. But is it wrong Jaystu to
bring in the girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's not wrong, No, no, no. I saw the joke a
thousand times online last night.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But I'm not making it as a joke. I'm making
as reality. Reality is like, it's not like, you know,
this is the retirement tour, and you know everywhere he's
you know, when he gets off the plane, he's got
to wait to get the wheelchair and he's going through
Walmart on the little scooter deal. He's got an oxygen tank, right,
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like seventy two year old Dantius. She's in her twenties,
isn't she. Yep, yeah, don't get me wrong. Like that
to me sounds miserable. No, I mean it. It sounds miserable.
Like think of all of my eighties and nineties references
which would completely go away. You know. That's like when
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we used to get together and watch the Thriller video.
Oh you don't. You've never seen MTV with music videos. Yeah,
I just that's not me. That's not who I am.
But the point is that if you like it's an
energy thing, you know, there's all different sorts of seventy twos.
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Sometimes guys get to be in their fifties, they're like,
I'm done, and they slow down, and then everything in
their life slows down and they're very happy. This is
not a shot at if you want to slow it down,
you want to shut it down your fifties and sixties
and you're financially well off like by all means you can.
But age is just in fact a number to me,
I don't know. So for people who don't know, for
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people who don't know, the reality of everything is is
this okay? The reality of it is this Mike Gundy
has a contract that's a rollover deal and he's owed
twenty five million dollars? Did they fire him without costs
just for being bad? Then his assistant coaches and they
fired the offensive a defensive coordinator. I think it's assistant
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coaches all in are like five million dollars as well. Now,
the cause thing is interesting because it allows them to
walk away. But I just I'm gonna say something which
it may not go over well with people at my
at that university, But if I was my Gundy, I
would tell them to stick the cause, Like if they
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want a restructure contract where the you know what doesn't shine.
Don't get me wrong, from the university's perspective, it's a
terrible contract. I don't know why anybody would agree to
a rollover deal, which we are all familiar with what
a rollover deal is. Right every year at renews to
a twenty five twenty five million dollar buyout. But finding
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cause means you don't have to pay them a penny,
And like I get it, Like this was a bad year.
Last year they won ten games. They brought everybody back
and they won three garbage Okay, so I understand the
level of Hey, it's it's not acceptable. But like and
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and I know that no one man is bigger than
the entire school, No one guys bigger than you know,
the entire football program. But who are we kidding? Like
Mike Gundhi is Oklahoma State football. I vehemently disagreed with
his with how he handled the Ali Gordon d Ui.
I do understand it, right, it took a lot of
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the attention off of Ali, who, by the way, just
declared for the NFL Draft. But really, over a bad season,
you're going to potentially potentially not just fire him, but
you're threatened to fire him and not pay him a penny. Okay,
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good luck with that. Good luck with that. That is
that is that's ego speaking. This is nothing but a
you know what con test measuring contest. And you know,
it's one thing to go like, hey, look we'll negotiate,
you know, can we negotiate it by it? But if
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you say like this's for cause, that means you're going
to dig something up and make it into something much bigger.
Because if it's for cause and it's really a fireable offence,
then you fire him. I mean, this is like, I'm
not a lawyer, but I can talk to one and
I guarantee they're going to say the same thing. Well,
if it's really cause and you really have something on them,
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show us what it is and go ahead proceed with
firing them. But you don't. All this is a threat
to get that contract changed, which is some form of negotiation,
and it's a to the mattress's negotiation. And that sounds
like a really really bad idea, really really really bad idea,
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really bad. Did I mention it's a bad idea? I
think I did. It's a bad idea. Let's let's get
some NFL talk. Mark Dominic joins us. He's the former
GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He joined us on
the Doug Otlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark,
what'd you think of the Packer lying game last night?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, I think it was entertaining. It showed me Green
Bay can hold up against the Detroit team. It showed
me Detroit can overcome, you know, some injuries and still
beat a Green Bay team. These are two really good
football teams, as you know, and so Doug, I think
it was a game where it felt like Detroit was
in control because of the way they held onto the
ball and just managed the clock, but green Bay continued
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to kind of scrap it through.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I think it was great football. I think it's good
for the game.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I think it's good for both teams, although green Bay
doesn't want to lose. It's a great story out of Detroit.
But it also shows you that you know, both those
teams are headed to the playoffs and they're both gonna
be tough outs.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
It does it feel to you at all like the
Patriots undefeated regular season where people are getting closer?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yes, I mean Detroit's Detroit's just such a complete team.
If they can find a way to get healthy by
the end of the season and get through the month
of December and find out where aiden really truly is.
I just think that that team is frighteningly strong and
just so balanced. And it goes back to the players.
Obviously love coach Campbell. He's been very fun to entertaining
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since he got there.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
But this really comes.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Down to Brad Holmes and the general manager, and the
decisions he's made along the way have been tremendous. To
have the guts to go where he was from, to
go get the golf who was cast off in theory,
and then the draft picks that they've put together over
the last three or four seasons. Of all these guys
making impact plays, Brad Holmes should be executed the year.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I don't think there's any question there. I mean there's
you know, I don't there's any question that personnel is outstanding. Okay,
the decision to go for could kick a forty three
yard field goal and give him forty some odd seconds
to get within field goal range indoors right, or go
for it and you can run down the clock and
kick out what was it, thirty five yard field goal
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to win it. What'd you think of that decision?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Well, I thought it was tough.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know, I think when the Packers are sitting there,
obviously the game is tied at thirty one thirty one,
I kind of like what they did. I think that
it was the right call. I think that they used
their timeouts correctly. They put themselves in a spot where
they're say, hey, look we could kick it, but let's
make sure we don't give the ball back. So I
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thought it was a tremendously gutsy call. Again where the
head coach believes his team and you know, they hand
the ball off to Montgomery and he gets the first
down and boom, and you know, seven yards is a
lot of young Again, if you've never kicked a field goal,
I challenged people to go out there and kick a
field goal under pressure. It's pretty entertaining. But the closer
you can get, they just felt like that was such
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a better chance, and I think they thought they knew
they couldn't.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Lose the game.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Doug, I thought it was a gutsy call at the time.
I'm like, oo, I don't know if I do this,
But he knows his team, and I think that's what
makes him such a good coach and why he's doing
such a great job with all those wins, these wins
in a.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Row Stutg gott Lib show here on Fox Sports Trader.
I don't know if people have seen this, but you
can go actually online and you can see you know,
field goals inside what and what it does for you
and the field? Yeah, you're right. I mean, like, look,
field goals inside forty yards is a ninety seven percent
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hit rate. Ninety seven percent outside forty yards is like
eighty nine percent, So you know, I just I think
that's it's it's a hard decision. But the point that
you made, which is the right one, which is like,
if they don't get it, yeah, I guess you could
lose the game. They march down the field and they score.
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But because the tie game, it's a little less of
a difficult decision. Now, he made some questionable decisions last
year against the Niners, probably overly aggressive at times, under
aggressive at times. Do you think that comes back to
get you.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I think you've got to.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think you've got to kind of be consistently who
you are and I understand what you mean. You know,
sometimes it was a little I think he's going to
consistently put the hammer down if he feels like it's
in a good spot. I think he also looked at
it with at fourth and one Green Bay twenty one,
Green Bay burned all three timeouts. The odds of them
flipping that field around and can't happen. Patrick Mahomes did it,
you know, kind of so it can't happen.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
But I just feel like, uh, I think that's.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
The team he wants to have, is one that sits
there and has full confidence, and he does too. I
don't think that'll come back and bite them. I really
don't I think this is going to be the mentality
he's building within those players is going to be very helpful.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark Dominic
is our guest. The Niners are an interesting team, right
They continue to struggle brock Perty's contracts coming up. They
do have potentially another year, and yet there's talk of
making him their franchise quarterback at the end of the season.
What would you do if you were in charge.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
There, Well, I would be willing to extend Brock pretty
I know it's been a shockingly poor year for him
from a touchdown interception ratio, way different than what we
saw in previous seasons. I played slow. There's no reason
to rush this, you know. I think I would probably
take it all the way up to training camp. But
I want Trevor Lawrence this. I think if Brock Purtty
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wants a deal, he's not going to get, you know,
Dak Prescott's sixty or Trevor Lawrence fifty five. Because I
just think that the Jaguars showed everybody you don't have
to do that. There was never an upset this to you, Doug.
No one ever said that Trevor Lawren should get fifty
five years. And I'm not mad at Trevor Lawrence, so
I'm just saying it just didn't make sense. I think
the Rams under the York Family with John Lynch and
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I think they're looking to tell you we'll do a deal,
but it's going to be in that forty five to
fifty range. We got to kind of put the Tampa
this down. I don't see Brock Purtty going out there
and say after this year, going yeah, I want sixty
a year. I'd say play it out. That's what I
would tell him, Like, go ahead and play it out.
But if you're willing to come in around that forty
five to fifty, I think that they see enough at practice,
and they've seen enough overtime, and we you know, it's
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been a very frustrating season. But I would have confidence
in signing bock Party if it wasn't that forty five
to fifty range. But I'm not letting them set the
market because it's just not to me that I may
him play another year improven.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
What makes sense for the Jets in terms of hiring
a coach in a GM, I mean, obviously it's a
they've gone after the bright shiny objects. So oftentimes, if
you're rebuilding the Jets, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's hard not to
want to look at like a Ben Johnson and look
at a guy that's a play caller who's had success,
knowing that that way, you're not going to have to
switch it out every time you have success. Right, There's
something nice about Andy Reid where you know that the
offense is going to be offensive the offense, and so
I think you have to think offensive side of the
ball so you can get something established in an identity
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you want. In terms of the general manager, it doesn't
always have to be like it doesn't have to be,
you know, a, well, because Detroit's doing well, we've got
to hire something from Detroit, Or because you know the
Ravens are good, do you have to hearn? But the
one team I would look at is Pittsburgh. I think
Pittsburgh's done a very good job of putting draft after
draft after draft together with different pieces. I think that's
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a team that you will kind of look at. Yes,
I know Pittsburgh's having a good season, but I don't
think you just have to go to the hot team
and the hot teams that I got to take that
coach and that player. But I do think you should
think offensively. I think that's what this game is built
to be, and that way, you know, you've got that
stability at that position going forward. And for the GM,
I think you've got to make sure that you keep
somebody that's I think you know, I think you want
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somebody that's you know, Ben pro Scout who's been in
the office, but elso has been a costcut and head
to grind.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Some of it's seemed both. But somebody has been a little.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Bit more in house because they understand the day to
day operations of what's going on. And I think that'll
make that transition a little smooth.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, it's it's it's super interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The problem is, if you hire Serer from Pittsburgh, he's
probably going to hire somebody he knows as head coach,
right like you don't you don't hire a Ben Johnson
and you know with the idea that the GM is
going to be somebody they don't have a previous relationship.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Well, you need the unique thing here is because they've
got the thirty third two helping them with this process. Obviously,
Rix Spielman's been a general manager for a long time.
Peck Woodie Johnson hired Mike Pannabam to fire the next
or hire the next GM, even though he fired Mike
a long time ago. So I think what you'll do
is they'll work on the GM part. But then I
think they open it up, and I think they'll get
the GM set really quickly. I think within you know,
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a week of the season being over. Then they'll they'll
let's head the GM and the thirty thirteen work together
to look at the head coach, so it doesn't have
to be I mean, he's more comfortable with and I
think during the GM process in terms.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Of the interview process, you're going to want to know.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Like who's your hotlest who are the people that you
think you can get to, who are the people you
like and why. But I think you open it up,
so make sure you interview four to six to eight
head coaches or coaches, I should say, And it doesn't
have to come from the tree of.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
The general manager. I don't think that's always a good idea.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark Dominic
is our guest. Corseform and Geral, manager of the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers the Bears, how they handled the Eberflus firing. Right,
He does the press conference and then fired later that day.
Many are being critical of the mccaskey's, you know, and
(16:11):
the other parts of the front office. What's the reality
to it from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, I mean it is what it is, this life
in the National Football League. They probably were trying to
figure out what they want to do or how they
wanted to do it. Maybe there was a little bit
of an internal debate on what's how we're going to
handle this, and so it got a little slow, and so,
you know, you keep the ball roll and you know,
I sadly was you know, part of having a fire
head coach in my career, and you know, I think
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he felt like it wasn't happening. It wasn't going to happen,
and it did, and you know, it's almost everybody blindsided.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I didn't think I was getting fired.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I got pretty reassured the week before that everything was fine.
So you know, it comes with the territory. Uh, maybe
it's not the best look, but I think Kevin Warren,
you know, has tried to clean things up, and you know,
we'll see what Thomas Brown does. If Thomas Brown can
find a way to win a bunch of games, suddenly
he might be the front runner automatically, just because of
you know, the relationship of you know, him with the
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with the GM and having success right.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
There, Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Show. Yeah, he's having
a ton ton of s. I want to ask you
to put your player evaluation hat on for a second.
Do you like the quarterbacks that are playing over the
next couple weeks in college football? Should those games be
weighted more because of the quality of competition and the
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importance of each play?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Well, I think you do have to wait things obviously.
I mean there's no it's hands or butts about that.
And in terms of what they can compete against and
who they can compete against, I think that's very fair
and I think that's, you know, just logical to do
because I think that that's a way that you can
kind of determine whether you think, you know, this player
is better than that player. But I think that as
you see players go along and you see the pressure mount,
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it's it's going to give you something, But you have
to take the entire season or seasons, and you have
to do, you know, really the grind. And this is
the one thing I've said before, Doug, and you may
have heard this with a unique thing about pro scouting,
and where we get it wrong and I got it wrong,
is we send our area scout, a coordinator, our director,
our assistant GM.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
The GM.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
That's five people that watch that quarterback play, and then
the position coach, the coordinator, and the head coach. That's
at least eight people that have written reports on a quarterback,
whether it's you know, Carson Becker or who are quin
you Weers or whoever it is. The problem is we
only send one scout in to do the character in
the background. And I think that's almost reversed. And so
I think the amount of time you've got to dig.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Into the character of the kid is more important than.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Maybe exactly what he's doing on the playoffs, as we've
got to watch him going forward.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
But I love it. I think it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
It's going to be interesting to see who can really
rise to the occasion. But if a guy has a
bad game, you know, we've seen quarterbacks that have bad
games that are you know, really good quarterbacks. And so
you can only take it with a grain of assault
in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Mark, awesome stuff. Man. I hope you had a great
Thanksgiving and you have merry Christmas. And next week we
have a College tall playoff and we'll have more NFL
to talk about. Thanks for our guest on Fox.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Sports Radio, Not pleasure, enjoy your weekend, man.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Pleasure is always, always, always mind. Mark Dominic joining us
here on the Doug Gotlib Show on Fox Sports Radio.
We got a lot to get to here, Lonzo Ball. Finally,
this has happened actually twice this week in which things
that I have said on this show have proven to
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be completely correct, even though at the moment in time
there's been a ton of pushback that plus I got debs. Next,
this is the best of the Don dot Leaf Show
on Fox Sports Radio, Doug Goatleib Show, Fox Sports Radio.
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college football Danny Canell joins us uh. He's a football
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analyst talk show host. He's joining us on behalf of
bet online. Check got bet online for updated college whall
playoff and conference championship at game lines. What do you
think of the current bracket?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
You mean the way the seating has worked where it's
almost impossible to pick. Who are you talking about? Like
who's the twelve seed?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Should it be one of the three SEC teams? Should
it be ten and two Miami? Like you got to
give me a little more direction.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
On you know, it's just opening in a neutral Dude,
we both learned in the same place. It's when you
see the bracket, ye are what do you think? Like,
what is what is the top line thing thought that
Danny Canell has?
Speaker 5 (20:54):
So the top line thing for me is that extra spot.
And really there's only going to be one spot that's
going to be debatable, and that's even remains in doubt
because if Clemson beats SMU, I still think SMU should
get in. Right Why Why because they're in the top
twelve already and they're pretty firmly inside the twelve.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
They're not even hold on.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
But why who have they beaten. That impresses you.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I would ask the same thing about Notre Dame. I
would ask the same thing about Tennessee. There's a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, so
let's let's go, let's go through. Okay. I'm just I'm
gonna ask you, and please don't think you know me.
I actually respect you. Now, you know twice as much
about college football I do, maybe three, four or five
times more.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I just know, as a fan and knowing how sports
kind of work, do you think SMU is better than
Notre Dame?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Well? Did we did?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I think Michigan was better than Ohio State this year?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I got it.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
I understand it.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
But but like, look, Notre Dame and SMU have the
same record, Okay, so it's not like I'm comparing incomparable incomparable.
So I'm just gonna ask you.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
They beat A and M.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
On the road, yep.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And you know you could go s C on the road,
you could go Army they you know who was at
the time, you know whatever, Louisville, same same wins, right,
they have the same they have They actually have better
acc wins if we're honest.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Better ACC wins and they have the A and M
win on the road, and and I think, and I think, truthfully,
you know, Notre Dame is two touchdowns better than SMU,
and it's not really that close. And a good portion
of it is one they've been there a while, they
got better players, they got more nil. I know SMU
has got a lot of money to throw around, but
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I mean the reality is they're better correct And.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
That's why I'm okay with Notre Dame being a five
or six seed and sm you probably being behind them.
Even if they win the ACC, they'll probably still be
ranked behind Notre Dame. If you want, do you want
to do the same exercise with Indiana?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No? But hold let's ye, yes I do. I want
to do Indiana second, because I don't think they belong
in either. I don't think SMU. I don't think Indiana
belongs in. I just I don't. But if SMU loses
and Clemson is the ACC champion, do you have does
SMU belong in the field.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I think it depends on the score. I think if
they get beat handily, and I would say by two
touchdowns or more, and really you'll know, like if you
watch the game and you see them get pushed around
and it's pretty controlled by Clemson. I think they're out.
But if they lose on the last second field goal,
you know, if it's a close game, or Clemson drives
and you know, scores a touchdown late to win the game,
I think SMU should be in. And like that's where
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this whole system kind of bothers me because and again,
I use Indiana, I'll use Tennessee, I'll use Notre Dame.
Those teams are sitting at home this weekend with their
you know, feet kicked up on the couch watching SMU
have to subject themselves to another data point, as the
committee likes to call it, while they don't have to
do anything, like they're already done their resumes in the books,
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where this is really a postseason game.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Like it's I mean, it is a postseason game.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
It's a conference championship game, so that shouldn't hinder SMU.
But even saying that, like I'm being a little bit
hypocritical because I realize if they get blown out, they'll
probably left out and it'll be pretty clear cut. But
if they go toe to toe with a team that's
you know, a top fifteen team in Clenson, I think
they would prove their value and should be in. Well,
the committee do that, I think so. But I think
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there's a reason. Rhet lastly has been out there pounding
the table saying this would discourage coaches from wanting to
make the conference championship. Jim Phillips, the commissioner of the ACC,
has been you know, pounding the table as well, saying
this would you know, why would we even play conference
championship game?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You need to play this justin hey, they need you,
like listen, Jim, stop it all you guys, stop it. Okay,
the ACC sucks because Florida State sucks this year, right,
Virginia Tech hasn't gotten back to the level of Virginia Tech.
And honestly, like we can have the Miami discussion and
they can talk about it's not just that they lost
two of their last three, it's that they should have
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lost at least two of those three that they escaped
in and.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
You know, like haar, I'll push back because what's better
than almost winning or losing to Vanderbilt and getting smoked
by Oklahoma, which is what Alabama's done twice.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
But again, yes they have and then but then Alabama
has really good wins. Alabama Georgia.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
One good win against Georgia. Okay, which is the win
that Georgia Tech almost steeped them in eight.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Overtimes, a team from the ACC.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Like, that's where I think the brand of saying, oh,
they beat Georgia, it's one of the best wins in
the season. Georgia is not the same dominant team they've
been in years past. Like, that's my favorite thing about
all these teams. Wait, Like you could tell me to
make the case for one or the other, and I
could make a case because they're Every team has a
flock except for Oregon.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, okay, I would tell you. I think that Alabama.
I know Wisconsin didn't end upgrade. I think going they
you know at the time, Wisconsin had their starting quarterback.
They went in and smoked them. They went in and
smoked them. The Vanderbilt lost. Like, let's just be honest.
That's part of what makes the SEC way harder than
anybody else because you.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Gotta go come on, So now you're you're drinking the
kool aid.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I don't want to get the kool aid. I'm not drinking.
I live in the real world and in the real world,
those are Hold on, I'm not done in the real
world that those are twenty million dollars. Maybe Vanderbilt's a
ten million dollar team or a five million dollar team,
but you're going against twenty fifteen to twenty million dollar
teams every week. Okay, the ACC sucks because the ACC
doesn't have any money. You know that. I know that.
(26:28):
Let's stop bs and everybody stop telling people things that
aren't true. You see it in basketball this past week,
the ACC versus the SEC. The ACC has great historic
basketball programs. They can't compete. Why they don't have the money.
It's really that simple. This is the Yankees and the
Dodgers versus the small market teams. Anybody telling you otherwise,
especially you Danny, who know this really well, you're lying
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if you say otherwise. Okay, and it doesn't mean you
win every game. That doesn't mean when you have hunh. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I do not think Vanderbilt has a ten million dollar roster.
I would say Vanderbilts Auster is similar to Duke, who
has actually been a better story and a better team
than Vanderbilt has, going nine to three, and they actually
had SMU and the Ropes had six turnovers and came
up short in that. But when you talk about Duke,
everyone's like, Oh.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
That shows you how bad the ACC is.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
But when you talk about Vanderbilt, it's like, oh, Vanderbilt
must be a great team, what a great surprise story.
That's what bothers me. I think there is parody in
college football. I think the fact that we're able to
pay players, I think a lot of that money has
been spread around so that everyone has yes.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yes, everybody yes, everybody in the SEC has money. Everybody
does not.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Every college football has No, they don't.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
They just don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
They don't know. They Danny, Danny, Danny either. You're not
being on.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Don't think Syracuse does has money. That's why they were
nine and three. They had, they had listened.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
They have money in comparison to the NO. What they
have is they went out and got in Ohio State.
They spent all their money on a quarterback. They went
and got a really good quarterback.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Their money on other players SMU.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
But look, the difference is Look, I mean again, a
lot of it is resource allocation. Hey, the reason the
Big twelve isn't as good as the SEC is they
don't have as much money as the SEC. So all
those games stam schools in Texas or whatever, and they
just don't have as much money. They just don't.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Don't be arguing about something for no point, because I
think the SEC is the best conference in college football,
But how do you quantify that? To me, that doesn't
mean they should get five.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Or six teams in.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I think they should be three or four because that's
already twice as much as most as the ACC in
Big twelve, and maybe three times if they're only getting
in one, three or four times as many, which I
am okay with. But that's where I push back on
the debate of well, we're just gonna limit the Big
twelve in the ACC to one team each.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Oh I listen, I again, My thing is I mean Indiana,
I mean Indiana. I don't get it. Somebody's got to explain.
And that part of it is what you discussed about
SMU this week. Like I watch Indiana against Ohio State.
I know special teams blew it up in the game,
but Indiana's offense couldn't move the ball against Ohio State
at all. They couldn't complete a forward pass like it
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was bad.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Indiana's defense held House States offense to their lowest output
of the season. Sure like that, Why that's.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Favorite a really good football team. It is not an
laite football team.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Let's see when you have twelve See that's why I
don't think there is an elite football team. Maybe it's Oregon.
They'll get tests against Penn State. But that's the best
part about the new parody that's here. I think it's
deeper than it's ever been. And I think there's a
lot of good teams. I think there's a lot of
flawed teams. And out of the twelve or thirteen teams
like at the top, I think any one of them
could win it all.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I don't. I don't think Boys you can win it all.
I don't think SMU can win it all. I don't
think Indiana can win it all. I don't think those
teams are Those teams are a notch below. I don't
think it's really that close. I think the rest of
the team I think I think South Carolina should be in.
I just do.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
I'm with you on that one, and that's that's one
of thing I'm bummed about. I had them as my
twelve spot, like I would have put them in because
I love the value in playing good right now and
getting better and improving throughout the season. And the one
of their losses against the LSU, they actually there was
a couple of bad calls that screwed them two you know,
touchdowns were taking off the board and their quarterback got hurt.
Like that was something the committee showed they should have valued.
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I think I didn't think Old Myths might have a
better rather resume than Alabama. I'm just bothered because I
think Alabama's getting the nod because they're Alabama, and a
lot of these power rankings they go back for five years,
like they taking the consideration past success, which with all
the turnover on roster, makes no sense whatsoever. Plus the
team that has with best win like they beat Georgia
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twenty eight to ten, Bama beat them, barely beat them,
almost blew the lead. Like I think Old Miss is
a team that's getting overlooked.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I think all of those teams should be in. That's
that's me and I'm not an SEC one.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Put them all on.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Let's go sixteens and then well.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I just I just think those Okay, can we agree
that giving a buye to Boise, Yeah, it makes this
makes a far right.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Here's what I'll be into the sea, Doug. If Arizona
State wins the biggest if I was a state, I'm
sure they'll pound the table and say we're a better conference,
because they are.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
But if if.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Arizona State wins, they need to point out to their
U two the committee, and I would expect Kenny Dillingham
to make this case. One of their losses came on
the road at Cincinnati by one possession and their starting
quarterback didn't play. They were playing Jeff Sims Sam Levitt
missed the entire game. I would pound the table and
say we are essentially a one lost team.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
If they do, and.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
They're supposed to consider when you have key players out,
they could sell themselves. And along with what I think
is more important that a Big twelve championship should be
more valuable in the data point situation, more so than
the Mount West where the fourth best team is six
and six, Like, not only is it lesser competition, but
the league is actually having a really bad year.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
So yes, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
I do not think Boise State should be getting a
first round.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
By This is a Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
do they win.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Tonight, I don't. I think I like UNLV tonight. Barry Odom, who,
by the way, is going to be one of those
coaches that probably maybe gets announced tomorrow. That has me
a little bit worried because he is a hot name
and he was already in the SEC. He's a really
good football coach and he's done a phenomenal job. They
had the lead in the regular season against Boise State
going into the fourth quarter. I think their quarterback is
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more dynamic Cosmo Leik Williams as a runner. If the
cold weather tonight and Boise you know, does slow down
a Boise State's pass game, I think that could be
the edge and I think it could come to an end,
and that would solve a lot of problems for the
committee because they kind of have to the position themselves.
They kind of pigeonhold themselves by having Boise State this
early with the buye. But this would solve it for
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him because then it would just the UNLV would probably
be the twelve seed and then you can give the
Power Four Conferences the champions the first four season the
buys Danny Canell.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
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Appreciate it man.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Always good catching up.
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for some teams. Like you're like, yeah, you gotta play,
(33:30):
but you're still gonna be in the It's it's the
college basketball thing right where some of these things doesn't
they don't mean anything crazy crazy? Okay, So I got
a lot to get to here. I am not right
all the time, but I will tell you that my
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takes uh, my takes, My take do come from a
place of knowledge, education, and belief. And there are two
of my previously by some people's estimation, incendiary takes, incendiary
(34:16):
takes that have proven to be correct over the past week. Okay,
I'm gonna start with one of them, and then I'm
gonna get to the bigger one. Now here's a smaller one.
Lonzo ball has come out and he was asked about
worrying about his knee injuries that really have hurt his
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career right, a series of muiscal tears and surgeries and
last year off and he's not nearly the same athlete
that he was because of the succession of knee injuries.
And as I shared with you at the time and
since and on social media, I was told by several
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members of the Lakers organized that though they didn't have proof,
they long suspected, long suspected that that the big Baller
brand shoes were when you want to say, more likely
(35:18):
than not to have caused the initial knee injury, that
they when he planted his foot and had the original
knee injury, it tore up a pair of shoes and like, look,
I know we think of sneakers as like, hey, they
can make them in Taiwan for however little and then
there's all these levels of up charge. The genius to Nike, Hey,
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the genius to Nike is that, and Adidas has done
this as well with the Sambas and all of their
other old school shoes. You know, you don't have to
do R and D on shoes that have were around
kind of fifty years ago. Now, if you want to
play in them, you do the college athlete, the professional athlete,
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the high school athletes is bigger, stronger, faster moves, puts
more pressure on it and they they have to do
a lot more research on it. But like you know,
between Jordan's and Sambas and Adida's forums and whatever, all
of their popularity, like granted, they didn't do the amount
of R and D they do now, but they have
done it over years and years and years and years.
(36:26):
But sneakers that you play in, cleats that you play in,
there's an incredible expense laid out by these shoe companies
to make sure that they now only help you in
the sport, but they don't put pressure on the parts
of your body that are already seeing the pressure, like
your knees, your ankles, your hips, your back, et cetera,
et cetera. Big ball of brand was a bunch of
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cheap shoes that they bought and slapped on the BBB logo.
And then Lonzo Ball his prize pupil ends up hurting
his knee. And because he hurt his knee in his
first year, he didn't have that first off season. Without
that first offseason, you can't really develop your game, didn't
change his shot as much. The second year wasn't particularly good,
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and then he had another knee injury, missed another off season,
and by then kind of the die was cast. And
now he missed all of last year with that reoccurring
knee issue where he's got some degenerative tissue in that knee.
I've said it, I've tweeted about it. There was a
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ton of backlash. I didn't know what I was talking about.
I was a hater and I was like, look, this
is the same thing with wearing sneakers. Is the same
thing as having an agent. We're having a lawyer. Can
you look over a contract and do it? Of course,
of course you can do it. Yeah, read over your contract,
you do it. But if you have a lawyer or
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it was an agent do it. They've seen one hundred
of those contracts. They know the thing that shouldn't be
in there. They know how to protect you. Don't be cheap.
Spend the extra ten to twenty percent whatever it costs you,
four percent, whatever the fee. Spend the money and let
a professional do that. The same is true here, you know.
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And what's really gross is that Lonzo's come out and
said he was told that there were no shoe companies interested,
so they just went with Big Baller Bread, which sounds
like the dad just wanted to do Big Baller Bread.
Of course his brother does Puma. Now there's something else
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that happened this week, which I don't need pats on
the back. But I've never ever, ever, ever, ever ever
felt like anything I've said or done or how I
feel inside my heart. No one who knows me would
ever think that I'm a racist. But our colleague at
(38:58):
Fox Sports, Nick Wright, essentially labeled me and some others
as such because I have been what I believe is
a truth teller about Eric b Enemy and why he
never got a position as head coach in the National
Football League. If you're listening to the show, and you've
been listening to the show for years. We've been doing
(39:19):
it for over twenty years. I've always been somebody who
have said, like, when I hear something that I know
to be true or believe to be true, and have
enough people I've shared it with you, it's not from
any a place other than what I know or believe
or been told to be true. And the thing that's
always bothered me is when others in our business can
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impositions of some sort of power, and when they're researching
or when they're thinking of a take and they could
research it and find out the realities to it, they
instead go with their feelings or talk to their boys.
It becomes an echo chamber, and that's the take that
they have. Case in point, Eric the Enemy. Okay, Jay Stu,
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you've been with me throughout this entire thing, right, take
me back to the Eric Bnemy discussion.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Well, the the Enemy discussion that we've been having for
what two or three years now is that there were
a select few people with blue chock marks on Twitter
former Twitter that claimed that Eric B Enemy had not
been given a head coaching job because of the color
of his skin. Nick Wright just this week amid Eric
(40:37):
b enemy partying ways with the UCLA. He writes this
on his Twitter account. The worst people on the internet
are singling out and attacking Mina chimes as the one
person who was calling out the league for the enemy
not getting a head coaching shot years ago, as if
many of us weren't saying the same things. So here's
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the clip from the same timeframe for what it's worth.
I stand by all of this today, and the only
addition I would make is that the one white offensive
offensive coordinator I listed who didn't get the head coaching job,
Brian Callahan, did get a job. Now, Douglat's just play
a little bit from Nick Wright two or three years ago.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
I understand there are some people in the audience that
are far, far more bothered by accusations of race playing
a factor in things than they are by actual racism,
and that's pretty bothersome.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
But let me just give you facts here.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
You can't get the job because Andy Reid, and everybody
knows Andy Reid calls the plays. Well, that didn't hurt
Matt Nagy, that didn't hurt Doug Peterson, that didn't hurt
Andy's last offensive coordinator in Philly. So what do coordinators
offensive coordinators of Super Bowl teams do? Well, The Chiefs
have been a contender for five years, so let's use
that sample. Twenty eighteen Super Bowl Patriots Rams. Well, Zach
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Taylor went from that job to a head coaching j job,
and Josh McDaniel now has a coaching job. What about
Kansas City, San Francisco, Well, that was Eric b Enemy
and Mike McDaniel was the lead guy in San Francisco
now has head coaching job now. To be fair, Mike
McDaniel's bye Rachel, But I'm not sure people knew that
until after he got the job, and he certainly I
don't think dealt with the assumed. If we're being honest here,
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a lot of the problem is a lot of the
white decision makers don't think the black guy interviewing with
the job's quite smart enough to get the job. I
don't know if Mike had to deal with that. Next
Super bowls Ken City, Tampa. Neither one of those guys
offensive coordinators have head coaching jobs. They are Eric Bnemy
and Byron Left which Eric just had to leave his job.
Byron just got fired from his The next one is
Cincinnati in the Rams. Now Callahan hasn't gotten a job yet,
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but it looked like he was very close to this offseason.
Kevin O'Connell, of course does have a job. And then
the Super Bowl again we have Eric Bnemy and Shane Stike,
and Eric Bnemy now has had to leave to go
get a chance, and Shane Stiken of course has a job.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Okay, first thing is there's a ton of there's a
curious omission there. What is the curious obmission? And again
that was from a couple of years ago, right, What
was curiously omitted was Eric b Enemy was reportedly the
offensive coordinator with the Kansaity Chiefs, and the Kansady Chiefs
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allowed him to go to the exact same position with
the Washington commanders. Wait what yeah, Yeah. Failed to mention
that Andy Reid, who some people believe is now creeping
closer and there are some who believe he's passed Bill
(43:37):
Belichick in terms of the greatest coaches ever, could have
easily kept Eric b Enemy. Right, I mean, listen, you
can buy the whole like he had to get get
out of the nest to spread his wings and call plays.
But if they really, really, really really valued him, he
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would be the head coach in waiting. First thing is,
here's one thing that is not reported. We act like
offensive coordinator in the National Football League is like you're
making fifteen cents an hour. Like you're making upwards up
three or four million dollars a year. It's an unbelievable position.
He didn't really get along with Mahomes. He wasn't beloved,
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and whatever you think of Matt Naggy and what happened
with the Chicago Bears by most people's estimation and most
people's estimation, he is more likely to be the next
head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs than Eric the enemy,
or than anybody else. Right, isn't a spagnolo their defensive corner.
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He's a former head coach as well, right, So I
mean look, the first thing is also should be mentioned.
Getting a head coaching job is really really hard, really hard,
really art. But the most bothersome part about it is, well,
there's two or three levels. One like Nick is talking about,
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like the most most not all white owners gms think
the black guy's not smart enough? Who named them? Name them?
I just again, there's this narrative out there which is
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so far from the truth about whether or not owners
want a black head coach to be around to interest,
that doesn't matter. I would concede that there are boosters
in colleges that want to have a guy they feel
like they can have beers with, they feel like they
can hang around, and maybe that has led some to
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being some black coaches to not getting a job. I
would say there's also an equal number of places where
they're like, look, we got to break through this class
ceiling and we need to hire a minority head coach
just because we haven't before and give new people opportunities.
I would say those numbers actually probably cross each other out,
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and there's probably more in the ladder than there is
the former. But the NFL and I know this because
I've done what you're supposed to do in this job,
and look, I'm not perfect at it. I've talked to
people and come up with opinions and shared them, and
some of them have been wrong, but it comes from
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talking to people inside those businesses. One I've done the
actual job of talking about Eric Banabaye by talking with
general managers and presidents who have interviewed him and considered
him for their head coaching position and taking notes and
share it with you on the radio, and share it
with people on social media. The second part is that
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we're acting like there's all these ancillary reasons that you
hire an NFL coach. The beauty to coaching in the NBA,
the beauty to coaching in college in the NFL, is
there's only one agenda. You don't have to recruit, you
don't have to worry about boosters, you don't have to
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do a radio show, you don't have to do a
TV show, you don't have to do anything under raise money.
All you have to do is win. So again, what
Nick Wright is saying is, yeah, I know this guy again.
If Eric the Enemy is as good as he believes
he is, so what you're saying is, Okay, Eric Benemy
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is really really good and gives us a great opportunity
to go to a Super Bowl, But we'd rather hire
somebody else who's as or less proven, simply because he's white.
What And I've said this for I don't know how
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long this nonsense started, but let's just say for the
better part of five years, because it predated COVID COVID
is is this in the NFL only one thing matters
is winning. And if you think for even one second,
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an owner is going to go like, how many candidates
we had? Great, who gives us the best chance? Hold on,
is he white? Okay, then we'll hire him? Like what
this that doesn't happen. And all you have to do
is actually pick up the phone and call any of
these gms who have a job open or who interviewed,
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and go, take me through the candidates. What'd you like
about this guy? What didn't you like?
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (48:51):
It's like Brian Flores, his lawsuit is just completely nonsensical,
right that he got fired because he's black, Like your
boss is. The whole front office in my Miami was black.
What are we doing? You know? It's like you got
fired because you were impossible to work with. And maybe
you can say, hey, I was right about Tua. But
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the general manager and director player personnel and everyone else
in the front office decided to draft Tua and the
owners signed off on it. And then Tua has come
out and said, you're a bad person. You're a horrible person.
And by the way, one of the general managers I
talked to was the one who told me before Flores
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the year before Flores got the job in Miami. He
was like, you know, he's gonna be really good head coach.
I think Flores is as long as he keeps his
ego under control. You know those Patriot guys, they got
massive egos because they all think they're Bill Balchick. And
that's what happened there. So I love being right, I
hate being wrong. I love winning. I hate losing even more.
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And these this is two dubs for me, and I
would be more than a little bit embarrassed if I'm
Nick Wright on doubling down and dying on a hill
that everyone else is vacated. It's like Nick is still
in protest mode in COVID mode, and we've all kind
of moved on. And the reality is that Eric b
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Enemy was the offensive coordinator for the one hundred and
seventeenth best offense in college football. The head coach Sean
Foster's black, the athletic director Martin Jarmond is black, and
they both said his services are no longer needed. And
we can spin it how everyone he wants to get
back to the NFL. Okay as what he took. Yeah,
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he was getting money from the commanders. That money's running
out if UCLA wanted to hire him, they would have
hired him. Instead, they moved on to another coach. Good luck,
Dian on that hill.
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from Inside Carolina. Carolina source confirmans to Inside Carolina report
that Bill Belichick interviewed for UNC's head coaching job. Quote
he blew them away in the interview, told the Belichick's
interest is high and genuine, but extremely unlikely to happen
due to his age and lack of college experience. If
you don't hire Bill Belichick because of his age and
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lack of college experience, and I get it, like you're
coming off of Mac Brown, who's older, right, and obviously
a legend in college. And they tried to run that
back the same way they did last time he's at Carolina.
Didn't work. But like, what are we doing? You know,
(01:07):
I mean, is it wrong Ja Stu to mention the
girlfriend is that low hanging fruit. I didn't say that.
You know, he wanted to get her in state tuition
so she could figure finish up her degree. I didn't
say that. My point is, and I'm not talking about
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that thing. I'm just saying he does have the energy
to have a twenty something in the year old girlfriend.
Right see him riding bikes, He's doing TV, He's doing
all this other stuff. Like why is it so hard
to think that he couldn't do the college thing. My
guess would be, if he doesn't get the job, it's
because he wanted to do it to then hand it
off to his son and they don't want that. That
(01:53):
would be my guess. But is it wrong Jaystu to
bring in the girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's not wrong, No, no, no. I saw the joke a
thousand times online last night.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But I'm not making it as a joke. I'm making
as reality. Reality is like, it's not like, you know,
this is the retirement tour, and you know everywhere he's
you know, when he gets off the plane, he's got
to wait to get the wheelchair and he's going through
Walmart on the little scooter deal. He's got an oxygen tank, right,
(02:23):
like seventy two year old Dantius. She's in her twenties,
isn't she. Yep, yeah, don't get me wrong. Like that
to me sounds miserable. No, I mean it. It sounds miserable.
Like think of all of my eighties and nineties references
which would completely go away. You know. That's like when
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we used to get together and watch the Thriller video.
Oh you don't. You've never seen MTV with music videos. Yeah,
I just that's not me. That's not who I am.
But the point is that if you like it's an
energy thing, you know, there's all different sorts of seventy twos.
(03:09):
Sometimes guys get to be in their fifties, they're like,
I'm done, and they slow down, and then everything in
their life slows down and they're very happy. This is
not a shot at if you want to slow it down,
you want to shut it down your fifties and sixties
and you're financially well off like by all means you can.
But age is just in fact a number to me,
I don't know. So for people who don't know, for
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people who don't know, the reality of everything is is
this okay? The reality of it is this Mike Gundy
has a contract that's a rollover deal and he's owed
twenty five million dollars? Did they fire him without costs
just for being bad? Then his assistant coaches and they
fired the offensive a defensive coordinator. I think it's assistant
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coaches all in are like five million dollars as well. Now,
the cause thing is interesting because it allows them to
walk away. But I just I'm gonna say something which
it may not go over well with people at my
at that university, But if I was my Gundy, I
would tell them to stick the cause, Like if they
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want a restructure contract where the you know what doesn't shine.
Don't get me wrong, from the university's perspective, it's a
terrible contract. I don't know why anybody would agree to
a rollover deal, which we are all familiar with what
a rollover deal is. Right every year at renews to
a twenty five twenty five million dollar buyout. But finding
(04:46):
cause means you don't have to pay them a penny,
And like I get it, Like this was a bad year.
Last year they won ten games. They brought everybody back
and they won three garbage Okay, so I understand the
level of Hey, it's it's not acceptable. But like and
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and I know that no one man is bigger than
the entire school, No one guys bigger than you know,
the entire football program. But who are we kidding? Like
Mike Gundhi is Oklahoma State football. I vehemently disagreed with
his with how he handled the Ali Gordon d Ui.
I do understand it, right, it took a lot of
(05:28):
the attention off of Ali, who, by the way, just
declared for the NFL Draft. But really, over a bad season,
you're going to potentially potentially not just fire him, but
you're threatened to fire him and not pay him a penny. Okay,
(05:48):
good luck with that. Good luck with that. That is
that is that's ego speaking. This is nothing but a
you know what con test measuring contest. And you know,
it's one thing to go like, hey, look we'll negotiate,
you know, can we negotiate it by it? But if
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you say like this's for cause, that means you're going
to dig something up and make it into something much bigger.
Because if it's for cause and it's really a fireable offence,
then you fire him. I mean, this is like, I'm
not a lawyer, but I can talk to one and
I guarantee they're going to say the same thing. Well,
if it's really cause and you really have something on them,
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show us what it is and go ahead proceed with
firing them. But you don't. All this is a threat
to get that contract changed, which is some form of negotiation,
and it's a to the mattress's negotiation. And that sounds
like a really really bad idea, really really really bad idea,
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really bad. Did I mention it's a bad idea? I
think I did. It's a bad idea. Let's let's get
some NFL talk. Mark Dominic joins us. He's the former
GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He joined us on
the Doug Otlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark,
what'd you think of the Packer lying game last night?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, I think it was entertaining. It showed me Green
Bay can hold up against the Detroit team. It showed
me Detroit can overcome, you know, some injuries and still
beat a Green Bay team. These are two really good
football teams, as you know, and so Doug, I think
it was a game where it felt like Detroit was
in control because of the way they held onto the
ball and just managed the clock, but green Bay continued
(07:29):
to kind of scrap it through.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I think it was great football. I think it's good
for the game.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I think it's good for both teams, although green Bay
doesn't want to lose. It's a great story out of Detroit.
But it also shows you that you know, both those
teams are headed to the playoffs and they're both gonna
be tough outs.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
It does it feel to you at all like the
Patriots undefeated regular season where people are getting closer?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yes, I mean Detroit's Detroit's just such a complete team.
If they can find a way to get healthy by
the end of the season and get through the month
of December and find out where aiden really truly is.
I just think that that team is frighteningly strong and
just so balanced. And it goes back to the players.
Obviously love coach Campbell. He's been very fun to entertaining
(08:19):
since he got there.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
But this really comes.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Down to Brad Holmes and the general manager, and the
decisions he's made along the way have been tremendous. To
have the guts to go where he was from, to
go get the golf who was cast off in theory,
and then the draft picks that they've put together over
the last three or four seasons. Of all these guys
making impact plays, Brad Holmes should be executed the year.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I don't think there's any question there. I mean there's
you know, I don't there's any question that personnel is outstanding. Okay,
the decision to go for could kick a forty three
yard field goal and give him forty some odd seconds
to get within field goal range indoors right, or go
for it and you can run down the clock and
kick out what was it, thirty five yard field goal
(09:02):
to win it. What'd you think of that decision?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Well, I thought it was tough.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know, I think when the Packers are sitting there,
obviously the game is tied at thirty one thirty one,
I kind of like what they did. I think that
it was the right call. I think that they used
their timeouts correctly. They put themselves in a spot where
they're say, hey, look we could kick it, but let's
make sure we don't give the ball back. So I
(09:27):
thought it was a tremendously gutsy call. Again where the
head coach believes his team and you know, they hand
the ball off to Montgomery and he gets the first
down and boom, and you know, seven yards is a
lot of young Again, if you've never kicked a field goal,
I challenged people to go out there and kick a
field goal under pressure. It's pretty entertaining. But the closer
you can get, they just felt like that was such
(09:48):
a better chance, and I think they thought they knew
they couldn't.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Lose the game.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Doug, I thought it was a gutsy call at the time.
I'm like, oo, I don't know if I do this,
But he knows his team, and I think that's what
makes him such a good coach and why he's doing
such a great job with all those wins, these wins
in a.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Row Stutg gott Lib show here on Fox Sports Trader.
I don't know if people have seen this, but you
can go actually online and you can see you know,
field goals inside what and what it does for you
and the field? Yeah, you're right. I mean, like, look,
field goals inside forty yards is a ninety seven percent
(10:23):
hit rate. Ninety seven percent outside forty yards is like
eighty nine percent, So you know, I just I think
that's it's it's a hard decision. But the point that
you made, which is the right one, which is like,
if they don't get it, yeah, I guess you could
lose the game. They march down the field and they score.
(10:46):
But because the tie game, it's a little less of
a difficult decision. Now, he made some questionable decisions last
year against the Niners, probably overly aggressive at times, under
aggressive at times. Do you think that comes back to
get you.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I think you've got to.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think you've got to kind of be consistently who
you are and I understand what you mean. You know,
sometimes it was a little I think he's going to
consistently put the hammer down if he feels like it's
in a good spot. I think he also looked at
it with at fourth and one Green Bay twenty one,
Green Bay burned all three timeouts. The odds of them
flipping that field around and can't happen. Patrick Mahomes did it,
you know, kind of so it can't happen.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
But I just feel like, uh, I think that's.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
The team he wants to have, is one that sits
there and has full confidence, and he does too. I
don't think that'll come back and bite them. I really
don't I think this is going to be the mentality
he's building within those players is going to be very helpful.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark Dominic
is our guest. The Niners are an interesting team, right
They continue to struggle brock Perty's contracts coming up. They
do have potentially another year, and yet there's talk of
making him their franchise quarterback at the end of the season.
What would you do if you were in charge.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
There, Well, I would be willing to extend Brock pretty
I know it's been a shockingly poor year for him
from a touchdown interception ratio, way different than what we
saw in previous seasons. I played slow. There's no reason
to rush this, you know. I think I would probably
take it all the way up to training camp. But
I want Trevor Lawrence this. I think if Brock Purtty
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wants a deal, he's not going to get, you know,
Dak Prescott's sixty or Trevor Lawrence fifty five. Because I
just think that the Jaguars showed everybody you don't have
to do that. There was never an upset this to you, Doug.
No one ever said that Trevor Lawren should get fifty
five years. And I'm not mad at Trevor Lawrence, so
I'm just saying it just didn't make sense. I think
the Rams under the York Family with John Lynch and
(12:43):
I think they're looking to tell you we'll do a deal,
but it's going to be in that forty five to
fifty range. We got to kind of put the Tampa
this down. I don't see Brock Purtty going out there
and say after this year, going yeah, I want sixty
a year. I'd say play it out. That's what I
would tell him, Like, go ahead and play it out.
But if you're willing to come in around that forty
five to fifty, I think that they see enough at practice,
and they've seen enough overtime, and we you know, it's
(13:04):
been a very frustrating season. But I would have confidence
in signing bock Party if it wasn't that forty five
to fifty range. But I'm not letting them set the
market because it's just not to me that I may
him play another year improven.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
What makes sense for the Jets in terms of hiring
a coach in a GM, I mean, obviously it's a
they've gone after the bright shiny objects. So oftentimes, if
you're rebuilding the Jets, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's hard not to
want to look at like a Ben Johnson and look
at a guy that's a play caller who's had success,
knowing that that way, you're not going to have to
switch it out every time you have success. Right, There's
something nice about Andy Reid where you know that the
offense is going to be offensive the offense, and so
I think you have to think offensive side of the
ball so you can get something established in an identity
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you want. In terms of the general manager, it doesn't
always have to be like it doesn't have to be,
you know, a, well, because Detroit's doing well, we've got
to hire something from Detroit, Or because you know the
Ravens are good, do you have to hearn? But the
one team I would look at is Pittsburgh. I think
Pittsburgh's done a very good job of putting draft after
draft after draft together with different pieces. I think that's
(14:09):
a team that you will kind of look at. Yes,
I know Pittsburgh's having a good season, but I don't
think you just have to go to the hot team
and the hot teams that I got to take that
coach and that player. But I do think you should
think offensively. I think that's what this game is built
to be, and that way, you know, you've got that
stability at that position going forward. And for the GM,
I think you've got to make sure that you keep
somebody that's I think you know, I think you want
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somebody that's you know, Ben pro Scout who's been in
the office, but elso has been a costcut and head
to grind.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Some of it's seemed both. But somebody has been a little.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Bit more in house because they understand the day to
day operations of what's going on. And I think that'll
make that transition a little smooth.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, it's it's it's super interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The problem is, if you hire Serer from Pittsburgh, he's
probably going to hire somebody he knows as head coach,
right like you don't you don't hire a Ben Johnson
and you know with the idea that the GM is
going to be somebody they don't have a previous relationship.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Well, you need the unique thing here is because they've
got the thirty third two helping them with this process. Obviously,
Rix Spielman's been a general manager for a long time.
Peck Woodie Johnson hired Mike Pannabam to fire the next
or hire the next GM, even though he fired Mike
a long time ago. So I think what you'll do
is they'll work on the GM part. But then I
think they open it up, and I think they'll get
the GM set really quickly. I think within you know,
(15:20):
a week of the season being over. Then they'll they'll
let's head the GM and the thirty thirteen work together
to look at the head coach, so it doesn't have
to be I mean, he's more comfortable with and I
think during the GM process in terms.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Of the interview process, you're going to want to know.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Like who's your hotlest who are the people that you
think you can get to, who are the people you
like and why. But I think you open it up,
so make sure you interview four to six to eight
head coaches or coaches, I should say, And it doesn't
have to come from the tree of.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
The general manager. I don't think that's always a good idea.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark Dominic
is our guest. Corseform and Geral, manager of the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers the Bears, how they handled the Eberflus firing. Right,
He does the press conference and then fired later that day.
Many are being critical of the mccaskey's, you know, and
(16:11):
the other parts of the front office. What's the reality
to it from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, I mean it is what it is, this life
in the National Football League. They probably were trying to
figure out what they want to do or how they
wanted to do it. Maybe there was a little bit
of an internal debate on what's how we're going to
handle this, and so it got a little slow, and so,
you know, you keep the ball roll and you know,
I sadly was you know, part of having a fire
head coach in my career, and you know, I think
(16:37):
he felt like it wasn't happening. It wasn't going to happen,
and it did, and you know, it's almost everybody blindsided.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I didn't think I was getting fired.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I got pretty reassured the week before that everything was fine.
So you know, it comes with the territory. Uh, maybe
it's not the best look, but I think Kevin Warren,
you know, has tried to clean things up, and you know,
we'll see what Thomas Brown does. If Thomas Brown can
find a way to win a bunch of games, suddenly
he might be the front runner automatically, just because of
you know, the relationship of you know, him with the
(17:05):
with the GM and having success right.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
There, Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Show. Yeah, he's having
a ton ton of s. I want to ask you
to put your player evaluation hat on for a second.
Do you like the quarterbacks that are playing over the
next couple weeks in college football? Should those games be
weighted more because of the quality of competition and the
(17:28):
importance of each play?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Well, I think you do have to wait things obviously.
I mean there's no it's hands or butts about that.
And in terms of what they can compete against and
who they can compete against, I think that's very fair
and I think that's, you know, just logical to do
because I think that that's a way that you can
kind of determine whether you think, you know, this player
is better than that player. But I think that as
you see players go along and you see the pressure mount,
(17:54):
it's it's going to give you something, But you have
to take the entire season or seasons, and you have
to do, you know, really the grind. And this is
the one thing I've said before, Doug, and you may
have heard this with a unique thing about pro scouting,
and where we get it wrong and I got it wrong,
is we send our area scout, a coordinator, our director,
our assistant GM.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
The GM.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
That's five people that watch that quarterback play, and then
the position coach, the coordinator, and the head coach. That's
at least eight people that have written reports on a quarterback,
whether it's you know, Carson Becker or who are quin
you Weers or whoever it is. The problem is we
only send one scout in to do the character in
the background. And I think that's almost reversed. And so
I think the amount of time you've got to dig.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Into the character of the kid is more important than.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Maybe exactly what he's doing on the playoffs, as we've
got to watch him going forward.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
But I love it. I think it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
It's going to be interesting to see who can really
rise to the occasion. But if a guy has a
bad game, you know, we've seen quarterbacks that have bad
games that are you know, really good quarterbacks. And so
you can only take it with a grain of assault
in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Mark, awesome stuff. Man. I hope you had a great
Thanksgiving and you have merry Christmas. And next week we
have a College tall playoff and we'll have more NFL
to talk about. Thanks for our guest on Fox.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Sports Radio, Not pleasure, enjoy your weekend, man.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Pleasure is always, always, always mind. Mark Dominic joining us
here on the Doug Gotlib Show on Fox Sports Radio.
We got a lot to get to here, Lonzo Ball. Finally,
this has happened actually twice this week in which things
that I have said on this show have proven to
(19:29):
be completely correct, even though at the moment in time
there's been a ton of pushback that plus I got debs. Next,
this is the best of the Don dot Leaf Show
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college football Danny Canell joins us uh. He's a football
(20:11):
analyst talk show host. He's joining us on behalf of
bet online. Check got bet online for updated college whall
playoff and conference championship at game lines. What do you
think of the current bracket?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
You mean the way the seating has worked where it's
almost impossible to pick. Who are you talking about? Like
who's the twelve seed?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Should it be one of the three SEC teams? Should
it be ten and two Miami? Like you got to
give me a little more direction.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
On you know, it's just opening in a neutral Dude,
we both learned in the same place. It's when you
see the bracket, ye are what do you think? Like,
what is what is the top line thing thought that
Danny Canell has?
Speaker 5 (20:54):
So the top line thing for me is that extra spot.
And really there's only going to be one spot that's
going to be debatable, and that's even remains in doubt
because if Clemson beats SMU, I still think SMU should
get in. Right Why Why because they're in the top
twelve already and they're pretty firmly inside the twelve.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
They're not even hold on.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
But why who have they beaten. That impresses you.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I would ask the same thing about Notre Dame. I
would ask the same thing about Tennessee. There's a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, so
let's let's go, let's go through. Okay. I'm just I'm
gonna ask you, and please don't think you know me.
I actually respect you. Now, you know twice as much
about college football I do, maybe three, four or five
times more.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I just know, as a fan and knowing how sports
kind of work, do you think SMU is better than
Notre Dame?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Well? Did we did?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I think Michigan was better than Ohio State this year?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I got it.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
I understand it.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
But but like, look, Notre Dame and SMU have the
same record, Okay, so it's not like I'm comparing incomparable incomparable.
So I'm just gonna ask you.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
They beat A and M.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
On the road, yep.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And you know you could go s C on the road,
you could go Army they you know who was at
the time, you know whatever, Louisville, same same wins, right,
they have the same they have They actually have better
acc wins if we're honest.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Better ACC wins and they have the A and M
win on the road, and and I think, and I think, truthfully,
you know, Notre Dame is two touchdowns better than SMU,
and it's not really that close. And a good portion
of it is one they've been there a while, they
got better players, they got more nil. I know SMU
has got a lot of money to throw around, but
(22:40):
I mean the reality is they're better correct And.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
That's why I'm okay with Notre Dame being a five
or six seed and sm you probably being behind them.
Even if they win the ACC, they'll probably still be
ranked behind Notre Dame. If you want, do you want
to do the same exercise with Indiana?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No? But hold let's ye, yes I do. I want
to do Indiana second, because I don't think they belong
in either. I don't think SMU. I don't think Indiana
belongs in. I just I don't. But if SMU loses
and Clemson is the ACC champion, do you have does
SMU belong in the field.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I think it depends on the score. I think if
they get beat handily, and I would say by two
touchdowns or more, and really you'll know, like if you
watch the game and you see them get pushed around
and it's pretty controlled by Clemson. I think they're out.
But if they lose on the last second field goal,
you know, if it's a close game, or Clemson drives
and you know, scores a touchdown late to win the game,
I think SMU should be in. And like that's where
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this whole system kind of bothers me because and again,
I use Indiana, I'll use Tennessee, I'll use Notre Dame.
Those teams are sitting at home this weekend with their
you know, feet kicked up on the couch watching SMU
have to subject themselves to another data point, as the
committee likes to call it, while they don't have to
do anything, like they're already done their resumes in the books,
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where this is really a postseason game.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Like it's I mean, it is a postseason game.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
It's a conference championship game, so that shouldn't hinder SMU.
But even saying that, like I'm being a little bit
hypocritical because I realize if they get blown out, they'll
probably left out and it'll be pretty clear cut. But
if they go toe to toe with a team that's
you know, a top fifteen team in Clenson, I think
they would prove their value and should be in. Well,
the committee do that, I think so. But I think
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there's a reason. Rhet lastly has been out there pounding
the table saying this would discourage coaches from wanting to
make the conference championship. Jim Phillips, the commissioner of the ACC,
has been you know, pounding the table as well, saying
this would you know, why would we even play conference
championship game?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You need to play this justin hey, they need you,
like listen, Jim, stop it all you guys, stop it. Okay,
the ACC sucks because Florida State sucks this year, right,
Virginia Tech hasn't gotten back to the level of Virginia Tech.
And honestly, like we can have the Miami discussion and
they can talk about it's not just that they lost
two of their last three, it's that they should have
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lost at least two of those three that they escaped
in and.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
You know, like haar, I'll push back because what's better
than almost winning or losing to Vanderbilt and getting smoked
by Oklahoma, which is what Alabama's done twice.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
But again, yes they have and then but then Alabama
has really good wins. Alabama Georgia.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
One good win against Georgia. Okay, which is the win
that Georgia Tech almost steeped them in eight.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Overtimes, a team from the ACC.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Like, that's where I think the brand of saying, oh,
they beat Georgia, it's one of the best wins in
the season. Georgia is not the same dominant team they've
been in years past. Like, that's my favorite thing about
all these teams. Wait, Like you could tell me to
make the case for one or the other, and I
could make a case because they're Every team has a
flock except for Oregon.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, okay, I would tell you. I think that Alabama.
I know Wisconsin didn't end upgrade. I think going they
you know at the time, Wisconsin had their starting quarterback.
They went in and smoked them. They went in and
smoked them. The Vanderbilt lost. Like, let's just be honest.
That's part of what makes the SEC way harder than
anybody else because you.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Gotta go come on, So now you're you're drinking the
kool aid.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I don't want to get the kool aid. I'm not drinking.
I live in the real world and in the real world,
those are Hold on, I'm not done in the real
world that those are twenty million dollars. Maybe Vanderbilt's a
ten million dollar team or a five million dollar team,
but you're going against twenty fifteen to twenty million dollar
teams every week. Okay, the ACC sucks because the ACC
doesn't have any money. You know that. I know that.
(26:28):
Let's stop bs and everybody stop telling people things that
aren't true. You see it in basketball this past week,
the ACC versus the SEC. The ACC has great historic
basketball programs. They can't compete. Why they don't have the money.
It's really that simple. This is the Yankees and the
Dodgers versus the small market teams. Anybody telling you otherwise,
especially you Danny, who know this really well, you're lying
(26:50):
if you say otherwise. Okay, and it doesn't mean you
win every game. That doesn't mean when you have hunh. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I do not think Vanderbilt has a ten million dollar roster.
I would say Vanderbilts Auster is similar to Duke, who
has actually been a better story and a better team
than Vanderbilt has, going nine to three, and they actually
had SMU and the Ropes had six turnovers and came
up short in that. But when you talk about Duke,
everyone's like, Oh.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
That shows you how bad the ACC is.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
But when you talk about Vanderbilt, it's like, oh, Vanderbilt
must be a great team, what a great surprise story.
That's what bothers me. I think there is parody in
college football. I think the fact that we're able to
pay players, I think a lot of that money has
been spread around so that everyone has yes.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yes, everybody yes, everybody in the SEC has money. Everybody
does not.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Every college football has No, they don't.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
They just don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
They don't know. They Danny, Danny, Danny either. You're not
being on.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Don't think Syracuse does has money. That's why they were
nine and three. They had, they had listened.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
They have money in comparison to the NO. What they
have is they went out and got in Ohio State.
They spent all their money on a quarterback. They went
and got a really good quarterback.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Their money on other players SMU.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
But look, the difference is Look, I mean again, a
lot of it is resource allocation. Hey, the reason the
Big twelve isn't as good as the SEC is they
don't have as much money as the SEC. So all
those games stam schools in Texas or whatever, and they
just don't have as much money. They just don't.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Don't be arguing about something for no point, because I
think the SEC is the best conference in college football,
But how do you quantify that? To me, that doesn't
mean they should get five.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Or six teams in.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I think they should be three or four because that's
already twice as much as most as the ACC in
Big twelve, and maybe three times if they're only getting
in one, three or four times as many, which I
am okay with. But that's where I push back on
the debate of well, we're just gonna limit the Big
twelve in the ACC to one team each.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Oh I listen, I again, My thing is I mean Indiana,
I mean Indiana. I don't get it. Somebody's got to explain.
And that part of it is what you discussed about
SMU this week. Like I watch Indiana against Ohio State.
I know special teams blew it up in the game,
but Indiana's offense couldn't move the ball against Ohio State
at all. They couldn't complete a forward pass like it
(28:57):
was bad.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Indiana's defense held House States offense to their lowest output
of the season. Sure like that, Why that's.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Favorite a really good football team. It is not an
laite football team.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Let's see when you have twelve See that's why I
don't think there is an elite football team. Maybe it's Oregon.
They'll get tests against Penn State. But that's the best
part about the new parody that's here. I think it's
deeper than it's ever been. And I think there's a
lot of good teams. I think there's a lot of
flawed teams. And out of the twelve or thirteen teams
like at the top, I think any one of them
could win it all.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I don't. I don't think Boys you can win it all.
I don't think SMU can win it all. I don't
think Indiana can win it all. I don't think those
teams are Those teams are a notch below. I don't
think it's really that close. I think the rest of
the team I think I think South Carolina should be in.
I just do.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
I'm with you on that one, and that's that's one
of thing I'm bummed about. I had them as my
twelve spot, like I would have put them in because
I love the value in playing good right now and
getting better and improving throughout the season. And the one
of their losses against the LSU, they actually there was
a couple of bad calls that screwed them two you know,
touchdowns were taking off the board and their quarterback got hurt.
Like that was something the committee showed they should have valued.
(30:04):
I think I didn't think Old Myths might have a
better rather resume than Alabama. I'm just bothered because I
think Alabama's getting the nod because they're Alabama, and a
lot of these power rankings they go back for five years,
like they taking the consideration past success, which with all
the turnover on roster, makes no sense whatsoever. Plus the
team that has with best win like they beat Georgia
(30:25):
twenty eight to ten, Bama beat them, barely beat them,
almost blew the lead. Like I think Old Miss is
a team that's getting overlooked.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I think all of those teams should be in. That's
that's me and I'm not an SEC one.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Put them all on.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Let's go sixteens and then well.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I just I just think those Okay, can we agree
that giving a buye to Boise, Yeah, it makes this
makes a far right.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Here's what I'll be into the sea, Doug. If Arizona
State wins the biggest if I was a state, I'm
sure they'll pound the table and say we're a better conference,
because they are.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
But if if.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Arizona State wins, they need to point out to their
U two the committee, and I would expect Kenny Dillingham
to make this case. One of their losses came on
the road at Cincinnati by one possession and their starting
quarterback didn't play. They were playing Jeff Sims Sam Levitt
missed the entire game. I would pound the table and
say we are essentially a one lost team.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
If they do, and.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
They're supposed to consider when you have key players out,
they could sell themselves. And along with what I think
is more important that a Big twelve championship should be
more valuable in the data point situation, more so than
the Mount West where the fourth best team is six
and six, Like, not only is it lesser competition, but
the league is actually having a really bad year.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
So yes, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
I do not think Boise State should be getting a
first round.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
By This is a Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
do they win.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Tonight, I don't. I think I like UNLV tonight. Barry Odom, who,
by the way, is going to be one of those
coaches that probably maybe gets announced tomorrow. That has me
a little bit worried because he is a hot name
and he was already in the SEC. He's a really
good football coach and he's done a phenomenal job. They
had the lead in the regular season against Boise State
going into the fourth quarter. I think their quarterback is
(32:08):
more dynamic Cosmo Leik Williams as a runner. If the
cold weather tonight and Boise you know, does slow down
a Boise State's pass game, I think that could be
the edge and I think it could come to an end,
and that would solve a lot of problems for the
committee because they kind of have to the position themselves.
They kind of pigeonhold themselves by having Boise State this
early with the buye. But this would solve it for
(32:28):
him because then it would just the UNLV would probably
be the twelve seed and then you can give the
Power Four Conferences the champions the first four season the
buys Danny Canell.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
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Appreciate it man.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Always good catching up.
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for some teams. Like you're like, yeah, you gotta play,
(33:30):
but you're still gonna be in the It's it's the
college basketball thing right where some of these things doesn't
they don't mean anything crazy crazy? Okay, So I got
a lot to get to here. I am not right
all the time, but I will tell you that my
(33:54):
takes uh, my takes, My take do come from a
place of knowledge, education, and belief. And there are two
of my previously by some people's estimation, incendiary takes, incendiary
(34:16):
takes that have proven to be correct over the past week. Okay,
I'm gonna start with one of them, and then I'm
gonna get to the bigger one. Now here's a smaller one.
Lonzo ball has come out and he was asked about
worrying about his knee injuries that really have hurt his
(34:37):
career right, a series of muiscal tears and surgeries and
last year off and he's not nearly the same athlete
that he was because of the succession of knee injuries.
And as I shared with you at the time and
since and on social media, I was told by several
(34:58):
members of the Lakers organized that though they didn't have proof,
they long suspected, long suspected that that the big Baller
brand shoes were when you want to say, more likely
(35:18):
than not to have caused the initial knee injury, that
they when he planted his foot and had the original
knee injury, it tore up a pair of shoes and like, look,
I know we think of sneakers as like, hey, they
can make them in Taiwan for however little and then
there's all these levels of up charge. The genius to Nike, Hey,
(35:43):
the genius to Nike is that, and Adidas has done
this as well with the Sambas and all of their
other old school shoes. You know, you don't have to
do R and D on shoes that have were around
kind of fifty years ago. Now, if you want to
play in them, you do the college athlete, the professional athlete,
(36:04):
the high school athletes is bigger, stronger, faster moves, puts
more pressure on it and they they have to do
a lot more research on it. But like you know,
between Jordan's and Sambas and Adida's forums and whatever, all
of their popularity, like granted, they didn't do the amount
of R and D they do now, but they have
done it over years and years and years and years.
(36:26):
But sneakers that you play in, cleats that you play in,
there's an incredible expense laid out by these shoe companies
to make sure that they now only help you in
the sport, but they don't put pressure on the parts
of your body that are already seeing the pressure, like
your knees, your ankles, your hips, your back, et cetera,
et cetera. Big ball of brand was a bunch of
(36:49):
cheap shoes that they bought and slapped on the BBB logo.
And then Lonzo Ball his prize pupil ends up hurting
his knee. And because he hurt his knee in his
first year, he didn't have that first off season. Without
that first offseason, you can't really develop your game, didn't
change his shot as much. The second year wasn't particularly good,
(37:12):
and then he had another knee injury, missed another off season,
and by then kind of the die was cast. And
now he missed all of last year with that reoccurring
knee issue where he's got some degenerative tissue in that knee.
I've said it, I've tweeted about it. There was a
(37:32):
ton of backlash. I didn't know what I was talking about.
I was a hater and I was like, look, this
is the same thing with wearing sneakers. Is the same
thing as having an agent. We're having a lawyer. Can
you look over a contract and do it? Of course,
of course you can do it. Yeah, read over your contract,
you do it. But if you have a lawyer or
(37:53):
it was an agent do it. They've seen one hundred
of those contracts. They know the thing that shouldn't be
in there. They know how to protect you. Don't be cheap.
Spend the extra ten to twenty percent whatever it costs you,
four percent, whatever the fee. Spend the money and let
a professional do that. The same is true here, you know.
(38:15):
And what's really gross is that Lonzo's come out and
said he was told that there were no shoe companies interested,
so they just went with Big Baller Bread, which sounds
like the dad just wanted to do Big Baller Bread.
Of course his brother does Puma. Now there's something else
(38:37):
that happened this week, which I don't need pats on
the back. But I've never ever, ever, ever, ever ever
felt like anything I've said or done or how I
feel inside my heart. No one who knows me would
ever think that I'm a racist. But our colleague at
(38:58):
Fox Sports, Nick Wright, essentially labeled me and some others
as such because I have been what I believe is
a truth teller about Eric b Enemy and why he
never got a position as head coach in the National
Football League. If you're listening to the show, and you've
been listening to the show for years. We've been doing
(39:19):
it for over twenty years. I've always been somebody who
have said, like, when I hear something that I know
to be true or believe to be true, and have
enough people I've shared it with you, it's not from
any a place other than what I know or believe
or been told to be true. And the thing that's
always bothered me is when others in our business can
(39:43):
impositions of some sort of power, and when they're researching
or when they're thinking of a take and they could
research it and find out the realities to it, they
instead go with their feelings or talk to their boys.
It becomes an echo chamber, and that's the take that
they have. Case in point, Eric the Enemy. Okay, Jay Stu,
(40:07):
you've been with me throughout this entire thing, right, take
me back to the Eric Bnemy discussion.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Well, the the Enemy discussion that we've been having for
what two or three years now is that there were
a select few people with blue chock marks on Twitter
former Twitter that claimed that Eric B Enemy had not
been given a head coaching job because of the color
of his skin. Nick Wright just this week amid Eric
(40:37):
b enemy partying ways with the UCLA. He writes this
on his Twitter account. The worst people on the internet
are singling out and attacking Mina chimes as the one
person who was calling out the league for the enemy
not getting a head coaching shot years ago, as if
many of us weren't saying the same things. So here's
(41:01):
the clip from the same timeframe for what it's worth.
I stand by all of this today, and the only
addition I would make is that the one white offensive
offensive coordinator I listed who didn't get the head coaching job,
Brian Callahan, did get a job. Now, Douglat's just play
a little bit from Nick Wright two or three years ago.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
I understand there are some people in the audience that
are far, far more bothered by accusations of race playing
a factor in things than they are by actual racism,
and that's pretty bothersome.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
But let me just give you facts here.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
You can't get the job because Andy Reid, and everybody
knows Andy Reid calls the plays. Well, that didn't hurt
Matt Nagy, that didn't hurt Doug Peterson, that didn't hurt
Andy's last offensive coordinator in Philly. So what do coordinators
offensive coordinators of Super Bowl teams do? Well, The Chiefs
have been a contender for five years, so let's use
that sample. Twenty eighteen Super Bowl Patriots Rams. Well, Zach
(41:57):
Taylor went from that job to a head coaching j job,
and Josh McDaniel now has a coaching job. What about
Kansas City, San Francisco, Well, that was Eric b Enemy
and Mike McDaniel was the lead guy in San Francisco
now has head coaching job now. To be fair, Mike
McDaniel's bye Rachel, But I'm not sure people knew that
until after he got the job, and he certainly I
don't think dealt with the assumed. If we're being honest here,
(42:19):
a lot of the problem is a lot of the
white decision makers don't think the black guy interviewing with
the job's quite smart enough to get the job. I
don't know if Mike had to deal with that. Next
Super bowls Ken City, Tampa. Neither one of those guys
offensive coordinators have head coaching jobs. They are Eric Bnemy
and Byron Left which Eric just had to leave his job.
Byron just got fired from his The next one is
Cincinnati in the Rams. Now Callahan hasn't gotten a job yet,
(42:39):
but it looked like he was very close to this offseason.
Kevin O'Connell, of course does have a job. And then
the Super Bowl again we have Eric Bnemy and Shane Stike,
and Eric Bnemy now has had to leave to go
get a chance, and Shane Stiken of course has a job.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Okay, first thing is there's a ton of there's a
curious omission there. What is the curious obmission? And again
that was from a couple of years ago, right, What
was curiously omitted was Eric b Enemy was reportedly the
offensive coordinator with the Kansaity Chiefs, and the Kansady Chiefs
(43:16):
allowed him to go to the exact same position with
the Washington commanders. Wait what yeah, Yeah. Failed to mention
that Andy Reid, who some people believe is now creeping
closer and there are some who believe he's passed Bill
(43:37):
Belichick in terms of the greatest coaches ever, could have
easily kept Eric b Enemy. Right, I mean, listen, you
can buy the whole like he had to get get
out of the nest to spread his wings and call plays.
But if they really, really, really really valued him, he
(43:57):
would be the head coach in waiting. First thing is,
here's one thing that is not reported. We act like
offensive coordinator in the National Football League is like you're
making fifteen cents an hour. Like you're making upwards up
three or four million dollars a year. It's an unbelievable position.
He didn't really get along with Mahomes. He wasn't beloved,
(44:21):
and whatever you think of Matt Naggy and what happened
with the Chicago Bears by most people's estimation and most
people's estimation, he is more likely to be the next
head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs than Eric the enemy,
or than anybody else. Right, isn't a spagnolo their defensive corner.
(44:44):
He's a former head coach as well, right, So I
mean look, the first thing is also should be mentioned.
Getting a head coaching job is really really hard, really hard,
really art. But the most bothersome part about it is, well,
there's two or three levels. One like Nick is talking about,
(45:08):
like the most most not all white owners gms think
the black guy's not smart enough? Who named them? Name them?
I just again, there's this narrative out there which is
(45:28):
so far from the truth about whether or not owners
want a black head coach to be around to interest,
that doesn't matter. I would concede that there are boosters
in colleges that want to have a guy they feel
like they can have beers with, they feel like they
can hang around, and maybe that has led some to
(45:50):
being some black coaches to not getting a job. I
would say there's also an equal number of places where
they're like, look, we got to break through this class
ceiling and we need to hire a minority head coach
just because we haven't before and give new people opportunities.
I would say those numbers actually probably cross each other out,
(46:10):
and there's probably more in the ladder than there is
the former. But the NFL and I know this because
I've done what you're supposed to do in this job,
and look, I'm not perfect at it. I've talked to
people and come up with opinions and shared them, and
some of them have been wrong, but it comes from
(46:32):
talking to people inside those businesses. One I've done the
actual job of talking about Eric Banabaye by talking with
general managers and presidents who have interviewed him and considered
him for their head coaching position and taking notes and
share it with you on the radio, and share it
with people on social media. The second part is that
(46:57):
we're acting like there's all these ancillary reasons that you
hire an NFL coach. The beauty to coaching in the NBA,
the beauty to coaching in college in the NFL, is
there's only one agenda. You don't have to recruit, you
don't have to worry about boosters, you don't have to
(47:20):
do a radio show, you don't have to do a
TV show, you don't have to do anything under raise money.
All you have to do is win. So again, what
Nick Wright is saying is, yeah, I know this guy again.
If Eric the Enemy is as good as he believes
he is, so what you're saying is, Okay, Eric Benemy
(47:43):
is really really good and gives us a great opportunity
to go to a Super Bowl, But we'd rather hire
somebody else who's as or less proven, simply because he's white.
What And I've said this for I don't know how
(48:04):
long this nonsense started, but let's just say for the
better part of five years, because it predated COVID COVID
is is this in the NFL only one thing matters
is winning. And if you think for even one second,
(48:25):
an owner is going to go like, how many candidates
we had? Great, who gives us the best chance? Hold on,
is he white? Okay, then we'll hire him? Like what
this that doesn't happen. And all you have to do
is actually pick up the phone and call any of
these gms who have a job open or who interviewed,
(48:45):
and go, take me through the candidates. What'd you like
about this guy? What didn't you like?
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (48:51):
It's like Brian Flores, his lawsuit is just completely nonsensical,
right that he got fired because he's black, Like your
boss is. The whole front office in my Miami was black.
What are we doing? You know? It's like you got
fired because you were impossible to work with. And maybe
you can say, hey, I was right about Tua. But
(49:14):
the general manager and director player personnel and everyone else
in the front office decided to draft Tua and the
owners signed off on it. And then Tua has come
out and said, you're a bad person. You're a horrible person.
And by the way, one of the general managers I
talked to was the one who told me before Flores
(49:36):
the year before Flores got the job in Miami. He
was like, you know, he's gonna be really good head coach.
I think Flores is as long as he keeps his
ego under control. You know those Patriot guys, they got
massive egos because they all think they're Bill Balchick. And
that's what happened there. So I love being right, I
hate being wrong. I love winning. I hate losing even more.
(49:57):
And these this is two dubs for me, and I
would be more than a little bit embarrassed if I'm
Nick Wright on doubling down and dying on a hill
that everyone else is vacated. It's like Nick is still
in protest mode in COVID mode, and we've all kind
of moved on. And the reality is that Eric b
(50:20):
Enemy was the offensive coordinator for the one hundred and
seventeenth best offense in college football. The head coach Sean
Foster's black, the athletic director Martin Jarmond is black, and
they both said his services are no longer needed. And
we can spin it how everyone he wants to get
back to the NFL. Okay as what he took. Yeah,
(50:47):
he was getting money from the commanders. That money's running
out if UCLA wanted to hire him, they would have
hired him. Instead, they moved on to another coach. Good luck,
Dian on that hill.
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