Will The Browns Mess Up The #1 Pick Again?

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about guys that women will never get. And I'm not
saying for a woman you're listening, you're like, look, I
like the NFL Draft. That's cool. I'm not trying to
dismiss um your sports fandom. But let's also be honest,
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It's just kind of a honey, it's kind of a
guy thing. I can't really explain it, right. And the
great thing about fantasy football is that many of your
wives and girlfriends have not only joined your fantasy leagues,
many of them are better than you because they're not
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By the way, he's gotten all of the picks in
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He's gonna be our guest, Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network.
We're gonna take a look at his mock draft. I
give you my thoughts on I think three big things
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I'm broadcasting from in just a moment, UH, ramos, are
you an NFL draft guy? I do like the NFL
dropped Yes, Well, I do like it, But does that
mean you're gonna watch it? You're gonna watch the entire
the entirety of this draft. I will, but I would
rather like it better if the Rams had to pick
in the first round, which they do not. So you're
all in on the Rams, like Rams won't even back

(03:13):
in town for a year. You're now a Rams fan?
Are you gonna Are you into the Charges at all? Sure? Sure?
But the Rams of the l A Team to me,
so here it's weird. I grew up in southern California,
I think, and I grew up in Orange County when
the Rams were in Orange County, I think of the
Raiders is more l A's team. Uh that that's that? Uh? Buy?
Or what about you? Are you big? And if you absolutely? Absolutely?

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In fact, I have run a draft pool since we
call it the NFL Draft Draft and have some fun
with it with a couple of buddies. So I am
all in tonight in the first round. Okay, So the
draft pool? Is there money in the line? Is there
a drinking game and you're drinking as his upside potential
maybe a little bit of car you know, we'll throw
into a pot and you just end up we put

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a draft order and you end up picking guys and
when you total up where they were picked over all,
whoever is the lowest number ends up winning as long
as all your guys were picked. And it's uh, it's
a lot of fun. And I'll and I'll watch tomorrow
as well, and I'll check in on Saturday as well
with rounds fourth through seven. So I'm all in, dug okay, cool, um,
what about you music. I like to follow the first

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round and then usually by about part way through the
second round, it's no longer you know, must see TV.
I kind of just tune out at that point. Yeah, look,
I'm I'm kind of with you. Like it used to
be a lot more arduous when it was more condensed.
Now they've spaced it out, and like the weird thing is,
because they moved into prime time on the Thursday, the

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first round has become bigger than it's ever been in
the past. But I'm I'm the same way, like once
you get past the first round, like I'm just send
me then I'll just look on my phone and at
the end of the day, I'll figure out who's where
and trying to figure out what's what I don't pay
I used to pay a lot more attention to the
ancillary rounds. I don't as much anymore till it's done,

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and then I can go back, can go like, oh
they got this guy, and throw around and tell you
what I like, what I don't like, value selections, all
that stuff. I don't get caught up a couple of things.
I'm actually fired up to see Tray Wingo, uh, Trey
wingdo host. Not because I think Trey Wingo is the
greatest host, but I think he's really good. And they
forever had Burman blocking him at ESPN, and I gotta

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tell you, I just never thought Burman was particularly good,
and he took forever to get to everything, and it
was one of those where he did it because he's
always done it, and that's why they always kept throwing
him back out there. So I'm intrigued to see how
that goes. I think the NFL network does a good
job in coverage as well. See Eisen, who you just
of course heard on many of these Fox Sports radio affiliates.

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He does him and his crew do a really good job.
Um you have two different entities covering it. I think
it's fascinating Look, there's three things that this draft to
me is about, and I think the first thing is
and we're gonna talk about this a little bit more
in about Tim minutes talking about what Joe Thomas said
on a YouTube show in regards to the Houston the
future of football. So Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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I'm actually coming to you live from Lawrence, Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas,
where I'm coaching at the Bill Self fantasy basketball camp.
It's pretty cool. Um anyway, so um, and and like
we're going over tonight to Bill Selfs palatial estate and
in addition to having a party of suare get together,

(06:23):
we're all gonna be watching the NFL draft a bunch
of basketball guys. You watch the first round of the
NFL drafts canna be a lot of fun. Um. So
I think, look, I'm so much of somebody's chewing on
an open mic. Do you guys hear that? Is that?
You buyer? That was totally me? You're talking about, you know,

(06:44):
hanging out with Bill Self and watching the NFL Draft
and uh, what are you eating? What are you eating?
Potato chips? Really just happened? Is that? Is that just me?
That it's hearing that or is that all of America hearing?
Uh No, I think that might have been all of that,
all of the background. Yeah, you know what that that?

(07:09):
You know what that is. That's like if if you
have a dog and you've ever um, you go to
sleep and you hear like some ruffling outside you like somebody,
and it ends up being like your dog getting into
your mind. Here, I'll tell you a quick story. What
reminds me of? And I gotta get to the NFL draft. Okay,
here's it reminds me of. It's just like I used

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to have a Bassett hound and um Bentley the Bassett Hound,
and Bentley was I don't know, like five years old
at the time, and my wife we passed out Halloween
candy in a town we used to live in called Canton,
Connecticut when I was up at ESPN, and so we
got we got all dressed up actually this the year,
and particularly got dressed up as uh uh not Alice

(07:51):
in Wonderland. What's the what's the show, Dorothy, You're not
in Kansas anymore? What's the Wizard? Wizard of Oss? Right,
So we were all different characters from the Wizard of Oz.
So we go around the neighborhood and her mom stays
back and passes out the candy. We come back and
then I pass out the candy. Whatever. Our kids are
on a sugar high, the sugar low comes bloom, they
collapse in the floor. You take them upstairs, you brush

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your teeth, you put into bed. It's like eight thirty
at night, and now only teenagers are coming around ringing
the doorbell. And at some point my wife is totally
worn down by and she's like, just put a sign
on the door, please don't ring the doorbell. Only take
a handful, and eventually the candy is done. Right, So
you're that's that's what lazy adult parents do when their
kids completely wear them out and they're done. They take

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out the makeup, they get into bed, or they have
a glass of wine, and they stop opening the door.
So we're in bed and I heard the same type
of crunching outside and I'm like, what in the hell
is that noise? So I think it's teenagers ruffling through,
taking way too much thinking all the candy, which is
kind of be expected because if I was a teenager,
I shouldn't be trick or treating, but I probably would

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have been that guy. So I opened the front door
and there's my best town five years old, with chocolate
all over her face and just wrappers every strewn everywhere.
And now I start to panic and I have to
go on the internet, like is my dog gonna die
from eating too much chocolate? Um? Uh side note, your
dog has to eat like four times it's weight in
chocolate for it to die from eating chocolates and old

(09:16):
wives tale. Anyway, dog didn't even end up sick. But
that's what that noise reminding me. I was hoping you
were to say, like, maybe, like you know, your wife
was sneaking some potato chips, but no, I'm compared to
a dog. But hey, I I deserve I didn't realize
that there was a little Costanza in the bedroom moment.
Castanza was eating a sandwich while performing. To combine the

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two things, that was a little all right, let's get
to the NFL draft. A couple of things here. I'm
fascinated by the fact that so many people are trend deniers. Now,
what the Browns are trying to be is accepting of
one trend and not accepting of another. And here's what
I mean. Well, we're hearing out of Cleveland. The reports
earlier today from several different edity is that Mitchell Trabinsky.

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And this is just weird that I have to call
him Mitchell Drabinsky when he's always been Mitch Drabinsky. It's like,
my name is Doug Gottlie. The only person on earth
who calls me Douglas is my sister Wendy. She calls
me Douglas. That's how I know it's her. Anyway, he
wants to be known by Mitchell whatever. Dude, Um, Mitch,
Mitchell Trobinsky might be going number one, And what we're
hearing is that they have an analytics staff and the

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analytics point to Mitchell Trobinsky being the number one pick,
and that's what they're going with and they're booting out.
Uh not just it's one thing to have a coach,
but it's other thing to have Hugh Jackson, who was
seen as an offensive uh at least a bright offensive mind,
if not an offensive mastermind, a bit of a quarterback whisper.
And he's not going to be in the room in

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ultimate decision time, which points to the Brown saying, hey, look,
analytics are the now, Analytics are the future. We're going
analytics with our first overall draft pick. But the denying
of trends is always interested interesting to me on how
some businesses get caught in dealing with uh, not necessarily
dated information, but dated trends. It's not that analytics aren't important.

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They're important. For example, in the NBA, look at the
Houston Rockets. They they run an analytically friendly system. Only
shoot at the rim, or shoot threes, or get to
the free through line, nothing in between. That doesn't mean
you do nothing in between, but as much as you
can nothing in between. They don't shoot post up shots.
Why because post up shots are inefficient. So there are

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some There are there parts to analytics which are genius.
But now post up shots can be important in the
NBA playoffs, where the game is much more physical. You
can get the best player from the other team and
an important player from the other team into foul trol
by posting them up. There there is more value than
maybe analytics would tell you. But analytics are at least
part in a bigger part of the story than there

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used to be. But the other part of the football trends,
which the funnel me is, look, I understand you're paying
number one overall pick less money now out, then you
would have paid it when Sam Bradford came out and
famously got fifty million up front. I get that. But
the other part of that trend is all of these
players are playing in that first season, right, they're paying

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them less, which means that they're they're less of a
burden on your team, which should be less of a
burden to play them more rapidly or as as soon.
But that's not the case. They're all of these guys
get a chance in their first year, and if you
look at trends in the National Football League, like playing

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guys early usually doesn't bode well for their success. Additionally,
I like using I told you yesterday or the day before.
I like, you know, I like correlating arguments, right, I
like congruent arguments ones that go. And if you look
at if you go through the other quarterbacks in the

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National Football League and look at the amount of success
that people point to Russell Wilson and the fact that
he was what a third round draft pick, right, But
what people forget is he started for a couple of
years at NC State before starting at Wisconsin. Philip Rivers.
Of course, of the now l A Chargers. When Philip
Rivers left college, he had started more games than anybody

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else in uh in the hittall. So one of the big,
one of the big points that people aren't pointing to
with Mitchell Trabinsky and why you shouldn't draft him is
not just that he's not ready. It's that he's not
ready and they're going to play him too soon. It's
that he's not ready. And in comparison to other people

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who have succeeded in the National Football League, Tom Brady
played out his senior season. Uh, he's done quite well. Obviously.
Ben Roethlisberger didn't play a ton of high school football
at quarterback, but was a decorated quarterback at Miami of Ohio.
Joe Flacco, of course a transfer from Pitts, but he
played a ton of football at Delaware. You kind of

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go through and all these guys that have been successful.
Marcus Mariotta came back for an extra year. Um. Uh,
you even Dak Prescott four years. You look at Eli Manning,
he stayed all four years. Uh. Aaron Rodgers, granted, didn't
you know, played high high school football late, went to

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junior college, then played two years at Cal but he
had more reps under center. As much as we look
for analytics as a reason to make this decision, the
fact is, look at all the good starting quarterbacks in
the NFL, and for the most most part, they stayed
in college for an extra year to be more refined

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before they got that first opportunity. And if you look
at recent trends, those early opportunities vote better for guys
that are more prepared. Trabisky doesn't appear to be prepared. Plus,
it's the Browns, and anyone who's watch the NFL draft,
no matter who is in the front office of the Browns,

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you've got a good sense that they're going to find
a way to screw it up. You just do. And um,
I've said this for a long time that I didn't
believe in curses, with the exception of Cleveland. Of course,
that's how good lebron is, right, he overcame the curse
of the city of Cleveland. But what do you do

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if you draft a quarterback one overall? You gotta play him,
and you're judged differently when you're number one overall and
last year they couldn't protect whoever was their quarterback. Now
you've got a coach who's a quarterback grew route telling
you to pass on the quarterback and one of the
Browns gonna do probably take a quarterback. Why because they're
the Browns and they think that analytics are the future

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when analytics are only a portion of the future. All right,
That plus more of Dan Buyers snacking in your ear
and uh Joe Thomas and it's what we all know
about football players and the possibility of doing damage to
their cabasa after their career is done. That's next. Uh

(16:17):
Doug Allie show rolls on on Fox. Sports Radio eight
on Fox is in fact the phone number. M hmm um.
I'm fired up for the NFL drop. I I do
think that the Browns, like Jim Moore is going to
join us later on the show. Is he not? This
is actually music? Do you know about my past or
supposed pass with Jimmura? I am unaware. Let's hear it. Wow,

(16:41):
I just I also Ramos. I often forget Buyer. I
often forget that Ryan music is like fifteen years old.
Son just turned sixteen? Thank you well? No, I mean honestly,
like for sports radio guy, you're kind of steal Zip Popper,
which is great because it gives me what a what
twenty five year old? That's like what you're kind of thinking?

(17:04):
So like, I can't make references that you wouldn't understand.
So um back in not the old place I just
came from, but the previous old place that I came from. Uh.
I was filling in for Colin actually, and we had
Jim Mora on and he had been just been fired
by the Falcons the year before. He was working for Fox,

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and he had to sit down interview with Michael Vick.
And so I did. Uh, I did an interview with him,
and it it did not It didn't go didn't go,
didn't go well, didn't go well? What happened? I mean
you can listen to it. I mean like, look it was.
I mean again, it's the long I would say. I'm
trying to wonder. You should probably I can see it

(17:47):
if you want. The date. It's from two September, so
seven years ago, right like seven years ago. And and
the the really the point I was trying to get
to was like, you know, where are where is he
with Mike? Because at the time, this when Mike Vick
had just come back to the NFL, and I was
wondering if he felt any animals towards Mike Vick because

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because of what happened with Mike Vick that torpedoed his
chances of being really good with the Atlanta Falcons. Like
it was a really hard thing for a coach to
go through. I remember he took over after Petrino left.
Uh thirteen games in the season. Uh. And anyway, the
point is, like, by gones, this is gonna be the

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first time I've had a radio conversation with Jim Mora
since in seven years. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna
be fun. And then, honestly, it doesn't necessary. I don't know,
it'll it'll probably I gotta bring it up because it
would be weird otherwise because the bloggers otherwise will go
crazy about it. But um, I do think this is
one thing that everybody in the NFL is thinking, and

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no one maybe is willing to say, shouldn't the Browns
You don't have to tank this season? But why do
they have to? They're not gonna fix their team in
one season right like they are they are they were
devoid of the type of quality talent it's gonna take
to compete in arguably the most difficult division in football. Like,

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the Ravens weren't great last year, Still the Ravens are
still pretty good. Uh, the Steelers weren't great last year,
but one was because Martavis Bryant was suspended. They had
some other injuries. Big Ben got hurt. Still, the Steelers
and the Bengals were a disappointment last year, but one
reason they didn't have Tyler Eifert. They lost Mohammed san
who of course joined US yesterday, so they had to

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kind of rework their wide receiving corps um. But there's
still the Bengals. Just that's still a talented, talented team.
The Bengals are. The Browns are just a notch below
talent wise anybody in their division. And the likelihood that
they fixed that talent void in just one season is
is is slim. It's not none, it's slim. And if

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you look next year, you got was in from u
c l a Jim Morris quarterback. You've got Sam Donald
from USC also thought to be a top five prospect.
The kid at Wyoming's big time. Oklahoma State's got a
tremendous quarterback as well, Like you got at least four
and there's going to be a guy or two we're
not thinking of that. Are that our first round grade quarterbacks?

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Not just quarterbacks taken in the first round. And when
I feel like I feel like, what's gonna happen Mitch
Drabinsky is what happened for a long time with Duke recruits, right,
Like Duke has signed McDonald's all Americans, and then there
have been McDonald's all Americans that became McDonald's Americans only
because they signed at Duke, right, like Marshall plum lely Um.

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And so I feel like, like Mitchell Drabinsky might be
a first round draft pick, but he he's only gonna
go as high because he's a quarterback, not he was
a first round draft pick who happened to play quarterback.
I don't know if people understand whom anyway. If I
was the Browns, I would If I don't, They're not
anybody I'm in love with that everybody's not in love with, Like,

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why do you have to take a quarterback in the
first round? Why? What? What? Why? Dude? Punt to next year?
Load up on defense, fix your offensive line, fix your
defensive backfield, like Josh Rosen and Sam Donald are gonna
be there next year, and that's the way you win.

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The longevity is when is when you build a complete team.
I mean, like, look, the Cowboys didn't win with stellar
quarterback play. They made a young quarterback look great because
the entirety of the roster was really, really good. I
do want to get to what Joe Thomas said, Well,
we'll get to it. We'll get to it. Um after

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we get to Daniel Jeremiah Past the hour. Joe Thomas
was on a YouTube show and he kind of admitted
what all of us think football players no going in.
So we'll get to that. But up coming next Daniel
Jeremiah from the NFL Network as an outstanding job. Like,
all right, So when Mitch if Mitchell Trabiski has announced
the number one overall pick in the draft, what is

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he honestly going to say? What is he honestly thinking?
What's the likelihood of success? Uh? Running back is a
position that has been diminished across the NFL, Yet there
are teams that are gonna draft a running back in
the first round. Does that match up with with trends
in the league? And you got O. J. Howard sitting
out there tight end is a more important position than

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it may have ever been in the NFL, and he
was wildly underutilized out Alabama. How high could O. J.
Howard go? Find out from Daniel Jeremiah on the Doug
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remember they trade away the first round draft pick, only
to get it back in the Sam Bradford's trade. Anyway,
Daniel Jeremiah DJ joins us here on the Doug Gotlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Your personal Christmas right, this
is you love this. You prepare for it like I
do for the for the NBA draft. Um, okay, you
wake up today. You did your last mock draft? Correct?

(23:55):
Ok Now is your mock draft? This is very important?
Is it what you think he should do or what
you think teams will do. I always explain it this way, Doug.
I do my top fifty list, how I ranked the players.
That's with my eyes, and I do mock drafts with
my ears, and so I can take you can everybody
can throw as much criticism as a mock draft because

(24:16):
that's the and and I'm good with it. It doesn't
bother me because it's just based on what dudes you're
telling me. Okay, So, um, what does your mock draft
have with the number one overall pick. Yeah, I've had
Miles Garrett. I've stuck with it. Um. You know I've
heard you know all the rumblings about them, you know,
potentially taking true whisky there. I just I'm not buying it. Um.

(24:39):
I just I can't see them doing that. I mean,
if they do, I mean, I gotta tell them they
have they have incredible courage and uh that that I
would give them. I'd give them credit for their courage.
I wouldn't necessarily give them credit for their selection. See.
My my thought is it's one thing to draft a
quarterback in the first round. But as you know, and
of course Dan Jeremia spend time. You spend time in Cleveland, right,

(25:02):
weren't you in that front office there? Okay? Yeah, and
you're in Baltimore as well. It's it's different when it's
the number one overall. Pick your your judge, your level
of success, your level of achievement, and how quickly you're
put up. It's totally different when you're number one overall,
and then your quarterback, Like if Myles Garrett isn't great,
he gets hidden on the defensive line, you can hide

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an offensive lineman and left tackle mr is a block
that that can't be hidden. But you can hide. You
can't hide in your quarterback. You can't hide when your
first overall pick, and that's especially for a guy who's
at the stage of development that Traubinski is in. I
think it it. I think it would be a stupid pick, frankly,
not just because of how all of you guys rate him,
but because of all those other factors. Are those fair? Absolutely?

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How about add into the fact that he's a hometown kid, um,
and add into the fact that you're gonna tie him
together with Carson Wentz, who you passed on last year,
and you're gonna probably end up tieing him together with
whoever ends up being the top quarterback next year, which
you would have pretty much taken yourself out of the
market for by making this pick. I mean, you're not
going to pick a quarterback at one this year and

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then turn around if you're picking up there getting next
year and take another one. Um, So you you're gonna
be compared to the class before the class after you.
And I know where I stand with Carson Wentz compared
to Trabisky. I think it's wins. I don't think it's close.
And from the work I've done initially on next year's group,
I think that's a much better group as well, So
that'd be a man, you talk about some pressure being
on a young dude. Yeah, that's that's a lot of

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pressure on a young dude. Okay, so help me out
with this, I said Rosen. And of course, Donald, how
deep is that class? Next year, there's a kid at Wyoming,
Josh Allen, that everybody will be talking about two. He
is a big talented dude. Um, so he'll be one
that everybody'll be paying attention to. And I'll tell you what, Um,

(26:52):
there's some other guys too. I mean there's a kid,
there's your guy at Oklahoma State. I haven't done a
lot of work on him, but there's some love on
the streets for Mason Rudolph. And then there's a huge,
huge dj huge huge body, big arm, A bit inaccurate, okay,
but he has he's gonna he's gonna come in with
a lot of reps behind center, obviously none of them

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under center. But I mean he's got a he can
make the throws. His problem is inaccuracy, which is you
point out to me plenty plenty of times that's as
are more important than your ability to make throws. And
we'll see how he evolves this year. But he I
mean like he walks in and it's the old Phil
sims adage, like he looks like a quarterback. Those are
all the names that that I throughout earlier. Kano Jeremiah

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joining us from the NFL Network. You can check out
his mock draft. You have Pat Mahomes going at thirteen,
right behind Trabinsky going with the second pick to the Browns. Um,
give me your sense of Mahomes and the difference between
him and Trabinsky. This is what's sad, Doug. Is that
what yesterday's mock draft and I have one today. Uh,
this is That's that's what my life has come to.

(27:57):
I had Mahomes then ended up going down to the
Giant that twenty four. But you know, look, to me,
Mahomes is like the ultimate wild card. He is. He's
a fun, fun one to watch, but it's like watching
somebody on a tight rope, and it's a tight rope.
On one side you have the the just incredible excitement,

(28:18):
and then on the other side you just have pure recklessness.
And he walks that tight rope in every game that
you watch. So, um, it's gonna take some time. Footwork
wise is really bad, but he has a live arm
and he is a great kid. And when you get
a chance to visit with him and kind of test
his football knowledge a little bit. Even though that's a
you know, funky scheme that they run, he knows it inside.

(28:39):
Now he's got great recall. So I think you've got
a smart kid to work with. But man, he is
he's a big time project. I hate his feet. I'm
just gonna I'm not gonna food, I know, but it's
weird his dad for a picture professional athlete like he
It's not that he's not a good athlete, but he's
not a good athlete in the pocket, and that's a

(28:59):
really hard thing to fix. Compare and contrast Mahomes to
a guy that he beat out because of injury, in
Davis Webb, who also came from that system then went
to Cal through thirty seven touchdown past the cow also
has that brilliant football I Q. How does David's Webb
compared to Pat Mahomes. Yeah, David's Webb. To me, you're
talking about somebody that can play more in the structure

(29:19):
of what you want to do. So that's on the
plus side. You've got a better feet. Um, he's gonna
be a little bit more consistent. The enticing thing with
Mahomes is just that he can get out and extend
and create, make things happen. I was talking to a
GM the other day and uh, he really likes Mahomes
and so I just said, man, I'm I just I
struggle with it because outside of the Unicorn that played

(29:40):
in Green Bay and Brett Farve, nobody's ever lived outside
the structure like this, you know, primarily and had a
long sustained success. It's just outside of the framework of
the offense. Nobody's done it. Farv is the only guy.
And he's like, no, no, you're right, But I mean,
have you seen some of the throws at the Homes
And I was like, oh my gosh, you just get
enticed by that arm man. Yeah. No, like he's he's

(30:00):
got a million dollar Dana Jeremiah. NFL Network has his
own mock draft, which apparently evolved from yesterday to today. Um,
I I love O. J. Howard early in the draft,
and let me give you my hypotheses to it, and
you tell me if it's a theory. Okay. Everyone knows
he was underutilized because two of the last three years
he played with athletes at quarterback, not quarterbacks playing quarterback

(30:23):
right um. In addition and and then you know, the
cream rises in the biggest of games, and that's when
he finally got the football. In addition to which, in
two thousand seventeen, the National Football League like you gotta
have a tight end and the longevity of a tight
end position, like dude like Antonio Gates is still playing,

(30:44):
can't run. Here's the guy who can run, who can catch,
who's had to learn how to block playing in that
system and has been underutilized, so he hasn't taken a
beating at the at the college level. But more than anything,
the importance of the tight end at the in the
National Football League. I feel like anybody who speaking out
over drafting a tight end that high hasn't realized what

(31:04):
a really good tight end means to an NFL team today.
Am I crazy to point those out? The best matchup
on a football field at the NFL level is a
tight end on a linebacker or safety. And it's no
question that is that matchup favors the offense more than
any other mass up out there. And you just have
to watch the Redskins play and watch linebackers and safeties

(31:24):
try and cover Jordan Read and they got no shot.
So everybody's trying to find a guy like that. Now.
I agree with you on on o J. Being under used.
He came back to school this year because they promised
him they were going to feature him. They threw him
the ball ten more times this year than they did
last year, so he was he was criminally under used
at Alabama. He can block in the run game. He

(31:44):
can really stretch the field. I compared him to UH
to Greg Olsen with with what he can do skill
set wise. The only you're gonna say the only concern
with him, which is kind of ironic coming out of
Alabama because we talked about it as the thirty third
pro team. They didn't run a lot of option routes
and you talk about Gates Plan forever. It's because he
has a great feel and some of that obviously the background,

(32:05):
the background and hoops, but he's got a great feel
on those option routes and using his body. The wall
guys off. O J. Howard is almost always on the move.
You're talking about getting him down the steam drag routes.
They leak him out, but he's gonna have some time
just kind of learn how to develop the feel on
those those inside option routes. He's gonna run at the
next level. All Right, I got rapid fire, real quickly.
Dato Jeremiah joining us NFL network. The one running back

(32:26):
you believe will have the best career, I'll say for
net not the longest, still have the best? Alright, which
which running back do you believe will have the worst career?
The one that you're you're not buying that other people are. Um,
that is a great question. Joe Mixon is the ultimate
wild card, the ultimate wild card a talent wise or

(32:47):
off the field wise. I'm just saying talent wise, he's
a freak show. He could be the best of the bunch,
no question. It's just you know, can you can you
keep everything in line? Okay? The value selection? The guy
who's gonna go second or third day? Um? Any position?
Give me one guy you like. Dude, everybody's missing on him.
I know this is a pro. Well, that's another good one.

(33:09):
I like that question a lot. Um. Second round. I'm
gonna tell you that Buddha Baker won't go in the
first round because he's an undersized safety, but I think
he'll he'll emerge is, if not the best, one of
the best nickel corners in the league, and he'll be
a big time player at the next level. Last thing,
everybody's passing on tackles. Bad tackle draft. Last year was
a great tackle draft, but all the good teams in
the NFL have Really you have to protect your quarterback.

(33:33):
Is there a guy that you would reach for because
you have to protect your quarterback. You have to protect
the guy who delivers the football. Is there a tackle
that you believe in more than others? Uh? Uh, that's
not a good tackle draft, buddy. I would still I
would go. I think Bowls is the most talented. He's

(33:54):
it's gonna be a twenty five year old rookie to
start a one year in college. It's just that kind
of a year at the position. Wow, all right, DJ,
get red, Now that's that's all right, all right, I
got I got it. Uh, look forward to having you
on more in the future. In the meantime, get ready
for the NFL Draft. We'll see you tonight on the
NFL Network. Daniel Jeremiah, thanks so much for joining us.
Than speaking speaking of tackles, Joe Thomas has long been

(34:20):
uh the one guy you can count on in Cleveland.
Wait to hear what he said about his personal future
after football and the sacrifice he's making on the football field.
That's next. Yes, yes, he is d G Show Rose
on Fox Sports Radio. I am told we are streaming

(34:41):
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(35:24):
otlip Show rolls on UM. I like Joe Thomas, Remember
Joe Thomas is the guy who he was like the
first guy to blow off showing up of the draft.
He was fishing with his dad, which is kind of
the coolest thing ever, right, And it's one of those
deals to where at the time you're like, why didn't
Joe Thomas like show up, and they're like, I'll be
honestly now, like, I, um, I don't think I ever

(35:47):
went fished. My dad passed way a couple of years ago.
I never don't think I ever went fished fishing went
my dad. But I thought it was it was just awesome,
Like do something like that with your pops. It's great.
Joe Thomas was on some you tube show Do we
know what YouTube show? This? This? This is? It was
called In Depth with Graham Messenger. Oh I know Graham Bessenger. Yeah,

(36:08):
Graham Messenger. He does. He does. He shows guys where
he won't do an interview with a guy unless he
gets to spend three days with you, and he gets
really he gets really good interviews, but you gotta like
give him like three days to hang out with him,
and then the interviews last over like twelve hours, like
he really wants to get to and they run on

(36:30):
a bunch of different like altitude networks and online, but
he gets some good stuff. Graham kind of a self
made guy, has his own production company. It's pretty good anyway.
Take a listen to what Joe Thomas had to say
about the sacrifices he's making for his future so that
he can play football today. There's definitely a concern, but
I think the way I look at it is just

(36:51):
about every profession in our society there's some lasting effects
and and it's just the way that our society is
set up. People have to work. And so if I
was a stonemason, or if I was a painter, or
if I was building bridges or whatever, there's gonna be
some wear and tear on your body and your brain.
And that's just the way it is to be able

(37:12):
to live the lifestyle and provide for my family that
football has been able to do. Um. To me, it's
it's a trade off. I'm I'm willing to accept, all right,
if that's most smart and really really stupid, Okay, Like, look,
there are things, there are professions that you have that
that could My father in law was a pipeline welder.

(37:36):
It was a pipeline welder, um, and so his hearing
is not good because when you're welding in a pipe
in the Dakotas whatever. It's super super super loud, right.
Um as A as a radio talk show host for
fifteen years. Like most radio guys once they get to be,

(37:56):
you know, plus on the other side of fifty years old,
they can't hear it all Like you go and put
on their headphones, like, oh my god, were you? Were
you an artillery in the army? Like why can't you here?
Because they've had headphones on and it ends up wearing
down and you're hearing that said, let's not act like
other sports caused brain damage. They just don't. Like I
said this yesterday, right, like everybody's working about concussion protocol

(38:18):
and the NBA and soccer, Like tell me the soccer
player who's like, man, I can't find my car because
I got memory lost because I headed a ball a
couple of times too many. It doesn't happen. But I
do think there's an honesty to it that football players
understand that there's gonna be damage done. And the question becomes,
how long do we keep up this ruse? How long?

(38:40):
How long do we keep up the ruse that football
doesn't cause brain damage? All Right? I struggle with it
a little bit because we're We're sitting here cheering for
guys that are incredible athletes, that are continue knowingly, willfully
sacrificing their future for their present and maybe for their kids.
I don't know. We'll catch up with Jim Mora coming

(39:02):
next to u c l A head coach. He's got
an incredible young quarterback who got hurt this past year.
Should the Browns or other teams tank to get one
of the l A college quarterbacks? Find out next in
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(39:24):
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(39:45):
are downloaded, including iTunes. Stug Gotlip Show UH continues getting
you ready for Tonight's NFL Draft, at least the first
round of the NFL draft, and to me, like I
love trends in sports, I just do. And just like
the spread offense was trendy, so too is it going
to be trendy at some point in sports to copy

(40:07):
Philadelphia seventies sixers model? Right? Which is you want to
call it tanking or loading up on assets or trusting
the process. It's building for the future, right, trying to
get as many young assets as possible, not worrying about
do you make the playoffs? Do not make the playoffs
because you want to have long and sustained success. So
I ask maybe the NFL community, could we see that

(40:29):
from the Browns or from the Niners? Uh? Two teams
that have head coaches with tremendous offensive background, teams that
are devoid of a franchise quarterback. And there are two
at least two franchise quarterbacks in the City of Angels
that play in the Pac twelve that will be draft available,
likely to go out next year in Sam Donald, sc

(40:52):
Josh Rosen u c L. Let's bring in the head
coach of the u c l A Bruins. Jim Mora
joins us on Fox Sports Radio. Coach, how are you
from well Doug, How are you good man, Um to
take me through that for you knowing Um having been
in the National Football League, having tried to fix a
quarterback situation, how how possible is it for an NFL

(41:15):
franchise to play for the future when the fans, when
ownership wants you to win and win now. But it's
it's tough. You know, there's not a lot of job
security in the NFL for coaches, and there's a lot
of pressure to win uh self, you know, self imposed
pressure and then pressure from the owner, and then certainly
pressure from your fan base. And you sure have to

(41:38):
have a lot of confidence in your in your owner's
confidence in you to say, you know what, we're gonna
plan for the future. And I think it's it's dangerous
because then you're telling the older guys on the team today,
you know what, this season, we're writing it off. We're
just trying to get better, but we're not really in
pursuit of the championship. And that you know, that doesn't
always sit well with with veteran players. You know, they

(41:59):
want to go after it all the time. So you know,
drafting quarterbacks in the in the NFL is is a crapshoot.
It's a big unknown. You've been a head coach of
two different NFL teams. You sell a head coach Jim
Mora joining us. There's some talk that some of these
coaches aren't being allowed or to make the final decision.
How normal is that? Like, what what's the percentage of

(42:23):
the conversation that a head coach is normally in from
your perspective having been in those draft rooms, well, the
conversations they're in with regards to personnel moves. Somebody has
to have the final authority. Uh, the healthy organizations and
really most organizations in the NFL, regardless of who has

(42:46):
the final authority to make the pick. If your organization
in agreement deciding that the pick that they make is
the best for their president and their future. So uh,
you know, all discussions are arguments, all disagreements are have
been had, and now everybody's on the same page going
forward and tonight when teams pick in the first round,

(43:08):
the guy they picked that the team has picked, the
organization has picking them. You don't ever want to be
in a situation where this is the head coaches guy,
or this is the gm S guy. It's our guy.
It's the Cleveland Browns guy, it's the San Francisco forty
Niners guy. You know, it's used to Texas guy. That's
that's how healthy organizations were. Jim Morra joining us on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um, I proposed to start the

(43:29):
show that like, look, man, there's two dudes in Los
Angeles that everyone who knows and you know, like I
have a good enough I to think I know, but
people like yourself and people in the NFL, they're all
like Rose and Donald. Those guys are the truth. They're
legitimate franchise quarterback talents. Rosen is a guy you you know,
you've recruited, you signed obviously he went through the injury

(43:52):
last year. Um, how how sure are you that whenever
he decides to go to that next level that he
can be successful? Well? I believe he can be successful.
I think he has the skill set and what I've
seen as a young man that that's really matured, is
very focused, has an understanding now really what it's going
to take for him to reach his potential, and is

(44:14):
applying them into understanding on a daily basis. And uh,
you know, I'm excited about the progress that he's made
and I'm hopeful that that he can, you know, take
all that he learned from from being injured and from
some of the criticisms that that we took, and apply
him in a positive way and and grow from it.
And so far, that's what I've seen, And that's very exciting,

(44:35):
very very exciting, because he does have he has tremendous ability.
But you know, it's about it's about developing the correct
mindset and being fundamentally sound and being a great decision
maker and and saying the right things and doing the
right things and acting the correct way and being a
good leader. Uh, there's so much that goes into a quarterback,

(44:58):
you know, being a guy that people see that can
be the face of a franchise. And I'm really confident
right now that Josh is moving in the right direction.
So I'm excited about that. All right. Look, you've you're
continuing to evolve as a head coach like you've you've changed.
You've take me through the decision you're gonna have a
live spring game, right this You're gonna have there. You
guys are gonna get after it. But that's not a

(45:19):
decision that comes easy. Right. The last thing you want
to do is have somebody get hurt in your your
spring game. Take me through the decision making process to
do that. Well, yeah, you're right. It's a risky proposition,
and we've done it all different ways in my five
years here. This will be our sixth spring. Uh. We
decided that our players have a tremendous understanding of how

(45:43):
to be competitive and yet how to cooperate with each
other and you know, not go low and cheap shot
or hit a guy when he's not looking. And we're
gonna play hard, and we're gonna play physical, but we're
gonna you know, play with respect for our for our
teammate and and as a coach, you always reserve the
right to uh say, okay, enough live, let's go bud

(46:04):
or tack off. It's hard to go, hey, you know,
we're gonna have a thud spring game and then say,
you know what, we need to increase the intensity, so
let's go live. I'd rather start, Hey, we're gonna go live.
And I you know, we've had a number of live practices,
live periods and practices, and what I've seen is this
team to understand how to practice, how to treat each
other how to make sure that we keep each other

(46:27):
as healthy as you can possibly can play in a
violent sport like football. So I know there's some concern
amongst our fans when I said our quarterbacks are live. Uh,
that doesn't mean all our quarterbacks are gonna be live
and that you know, I'll be back there with the
whistle too. So we'll take care of our players as
much as we can. But they need to get out there,
and they need to compete against each other, and they

(46:48):
need to be in an intense environment. And we're going
to create that form. I know it's gonna be so
hard though, man, Like you guys had such injury issues
the past two years. I mean you go back two
years ago between Miles Jack and like your entire offensive
line like that. Like, dude, I hear you. You want
to you want to see what it's like when live
bullets are flying, right, and the fans they want to

(47:08):
see you, you know, they want to see you guys
get after you. It piques the level of intensity. On
the other hand, like you almost have to go to
church the morning of and just go look, I don't
just please, don't anybody go get hurt. That is there
other than the green jersey and the whistle. Is there
any real way to protect your kids from injury? Not

(47:29):
when you play football unless you take the pads off
and play tag, And that's just not feasible. And I understand, Um,
I know what you're saying. I mean, it's uh, I
owe my breath. My dad comes to the game and
the practices like are you sure you want to go
live a Are you sure? And I have to remind
that we're dealing with, you know, college kids that are
still developing their fundamentals, not an NFL player that's a

(47:52):
little more developed, more mature, maybe a little more wear
and tear on their body. But like I said, you know,
it will be a team that understands how to practice lightly. Look,
we last Saturday, we had ninety four plays live in
practice plays Saturday. We might have to seventy so and

(48:14):
we didn't. You know, no one got hurt last week.
So I'll keep my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen again.
But you know, this sport we play, there's a level
of intensity and violence and there is risk of injury. Um,
you have to accept it. Um, you have to really
weigh out all of the ramifications of the decision you're
making and try to make the best decision. And like

(48:35):
I said, you always reserve the right as the head
coach to alter that decision as the day goes on.
You know, you being a former college football player, you
always had kind of a college football energy about you.
And and I hope you again, I hope you take
that the right way. I mean that where like, for example,
you're in Philadelphia, right, You're with with Tachois McKinley, aren't you. Yeah, yeah,

(48:56):
so so Tam McKinley is getting ready. You'll probably a
first round draft pick tonight, and and yeah, and you
and Angus McClure are there, and he's a defensive line coach.
For people don't know you, U c l a football
and like you know everything I've read about and I
know you went there last year. Uh you know, um
he went there last year as well with Miles Jack.

(49:16):
And of course I know his disappointed he fell out
of the first round. He might end up being in
a better place anyway. But uh, the point is, I
always felt like you love championing, Like Tam McKinley's personal
story is incredible, and the fact that you get to
You've been there long enough to see it through makes
it even better. And I just feel like that energy,
that part of the process, it fits your personality better.

(49:37):
Is that Is that a fair? Is that fair? Yeah?
I think that. I think you're You're right. I agree
with you. You know, I I love what I'm doing.
I love being around these young man. I love helping
him develop as football players, as students, you know, as
as young man. You know, I want to help him
grow into the man their parents always dreamed that they become.
And I take that very very seriously. Uh. I love

(50:00):
college football, you know, I love it. I didn't know
that I'd love it this much. It's brought out the
best in need rather than the worst. And I'm excited to,
you know, do the best I can so I could
keep coaching at uh l A. So I appreciate you
you acknowledging that Well, No, and and and and and
Tach is the perfect example that, right, Like, dude, that
guy that's a that's a tough for for for people

(50:23):
who don't know his story. UM to take us through
kind of the bullet points of how he got to
where he is now. Is this dynamic pass rusher, Well,
I mean the bullet points dug or. You know, his
background was very difficult. He grew up in in the
Oakland areaan Richmond, and he really didn't know his father,
and his mother died when he was young. He's raised
by his grandmother, who did a tremendous job of caring

(50:46):
for him and raising for him and instilling great values
in him. Um before she passed away, he made a
promise to her that he'd go play Division one football,
that he would go to the NFL and be successful
in the NFL. And he's about to reach that dream,
you know. When he got to u c l A.
It was a situation where you know, he'd really never
had his own bed, you know, and he moved into
his dorm room and there was a there was a

(51:08):
bed there before him, and uh, he tells the story.
In the first night, he pulled the sheets and the
blankets and the pilloff, then slept on the floor because
it felt weird him to sleep in the bed. You know,
those are some of the stories that you see when
you're a college football coach that just they suck you in,
you know, and you say, Okay, how can I be
a person of positive influence? In this young man, this

(51:30):
young young man's life, and help him achieve his dream. Attack.
What an amazingly wonderful young man. It would be so
easy to quit, It would be so easy to make excuses,
would be so easy to give in or do the
wrong thing, make the wrong decision. And yet he's found
the strength and the power and the conviction to get
himself to this point tonight where he's about to be

(51:52):
a first round pick. And he'll tell you, and he
said it publicly, this is just the beginning for him.
And I love that attitude about Attack. Awesome. Listen, enjoy
that night with him. Uh, it's he's had well deserved respect.
Hopefully he goes into night's first round. In the meantime,
get back to Westwood, keep that team healthy and with
afoard to talk with you before your team takes the
field next season out at the rose Ball. Thanks so

(52:14):
much for joining us, Jim, Thank you. Take care of
a great night. All right. That's Jim Mora, head coach
of the u c l A. Bruins. Like I, I
understand there's a lot of cynics regarding college athletics. I
completely because you've been told by so many people in
my own professional look at the billions of dollars that
college sports like the the the term billions is when

(52:37):
you pull together all the money that is made from
a group of like for the all the all the
teams over twenty years, Like, yeah, it becomes do schools
make money? They absolutely do. They make money on football, okay,
and they make a lot of money based upon the
brand as much as the success of the teams. But

(52:57):
there's there's life changing elements to getting a college education,
to getting those opportunities, and much like any of the
rest of us who went to college, like what you
do with that opportunity, what you do with that degree,
what you do, the people that you meet, the experiences
that you have, that's what paves the road for the
rest of your future. And Tech McKinley is the perfect

(53:19):
example that. So you can tell me like I'm you're
in the bag for the n c A, Like, no,
I'm actually in the bag for the student athlete. I
just think so often times we're looking for this quick,
cheap payday instead of the ultimate payout over a forty year,
fifty year existence after college sports and professional sports. And

(53:39):
that's my my perspective on it. Doug Outlive show rolls
on here on Fox Sports Radio. Man, we got a
lot to get to, Um, Todd Murnovich is going to
join us. That's right, the Tod Ronovitch is going to
join us next hour. Former number one first round draft
pick of the l A Raiders USC product Uh. Any

(54:00):
of you may know his a year ago story found
naked sleeping in somebody's backyard. What's happened to him? Since?
What advice you would give to a young person today,
a quarterback today? How hard that is to well? Last? Todd?
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round or during the first round? Richard Sherman Shawks traded
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sure Ramis was running rolling on it and he's gonna
bring it back to cause me some pain at some point. Man.
That was a great album though. Oh it's like one
of those um back in my day when you had
to buy an entire album and you couldn't go to
iTunes and download individual songs. Um you just you know,

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it's like hit or miss right, and I mean a granted,
when you were first a kid, you had records. You
could buy the single or you could buy the whole record.
Then as it evolved to cassette tapes and you had
to buy the whole cassette or you could buy the single.
And then of course it became high speed dubbing music.
Do you have any idea what high speed debing his?
I have no clue. Yeah, yeah, this is a this

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is I mean, god, you uh, Ramas, you feel like
the oldest guy on earth. When you're like that used
to be really cool. You'd have a cassette tape. You
have a cassette tape, and then you had a dual
cassette player, so you could make your mix tapes. Mix
tapes for cool, for shooting hoops to the gym or
hanging out with the fellas or whatever, or for telling
a girl you loved her or that you missed her,
or that she should baby come back to you. Right

(56:09):
like boys two men would always end up every at
the end of every mixtape. Anyway. Then they had this
thing called high speed dubbing, which if you want to
copy somebody else's cassette, you could put one in, put
the blank cassette in press record and it would do
so kind of like two times three times the regular speed.
Then there became CDs UM and of course first they

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didn't have non skip. Then there was skip c d
s than MP three is now to where we are now.
But anyway, you used to have to buy the entire album,
and until Doggy Like Doggie Dog World was one of
those where pretty pretty much every Doggy dog World and
the chronic granted I'm more of a West Coast rap guy,
pretty much every song was good, which is the rare

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was the exception, not the rule. Um, speaking of the exception,
not the rule. This it is exceptional, it's not the rule. Huh.
All right, it was a little bit of reach. We'll
take you around the country. I got guys everywhere. Gets
you a sense of what certain teams are gonna do
in tonight's NFL draft that's upcoming in ten moments, ten

(57:13):
minutes after we get to what's trending in the meantime,
let's reach into my sack. Let's reach into godly sack.
That that gets creepier by the day. Dan, we bring
in Dan Buyer, Dan, what's the what you find in
my sack? Oh? I found something here, Doug that I
think I think that's not mine. Well, we've we've got

(57:34):
psychic a psychic dog today. All right, you get to
look ahead to some things. Why don't we go NFL
Draft heavy? Cool with that because it's the first round.
That's let's roll. Let's do it. What team, Doug, do
you see trading up to draft a quarterback in tonight's
first round? And now what's specific? But there there are
some teams that need a QB. I think the Browns

(57:59):
will trade up. I think they'll get freaked out that Trabisky.
They're not gonna take Trabisky number one. Overall. I think
they'll get scared, they'll get nervous. They will trade up
to draft quarterback. How many quarterbacks do you see going
in the first round tonight? It's a great question. It's
a great question. I'm gonna go with three. I think
Pat Mahomes does go in the first round because he
has armed talent. I think Shaun Watson will get drafted

(58:19):
because he has a lot of intangibles, even if his
tangibles aren't as good as I think people would think. Um,
And I think Trabisky goes in the first round. Gonna
go with three first round draft picks. Okay, let's take
a time out so I can have some chips and
Mountain Deus. Just kidding. Uh, those are off to the side, Doug,
No worries about that whatsoever. We're clean here. You mentioned
the Browns having two first round picks. They're not the

(58:40):
only team though, in the first round with two first
round selections. That would be the Tennessee Titans at number
five and number eighteen. Well, the Titans trade both one
or none of their first rounders tonight. I think they
will trade one of their first rounders. I think they'll
get out of that early spot. Uh, They're gonna try
and continue you to accrue assets and build a team.

(59:02):
They have their franchise quarterback, they have a couple of
running backs, they have a good offensive line. They gotta
put talent around him. I think they'll trade down out
of that first pick. You and Daniel Jeremiah had a
great conversation about this guy. You've talked about them all
week long. Do you see Joe Mixon being selected tonight
in one of the first thirty two picks of the draft.

(59:22):
I don't. I think he'll drop out of the first round.
I think he's he's a first round talent. I think
he obviously has uh the scarlet letter that he wears. Um,
it's part of it's about the s Freak Show talent,
But part of it is there's also other really good
running backs. It's it's not like we're not in a
it's not in a vacuum, like in a vacuum. Is
the a first round pick? Absolutely? But the like the

(59:46):
world doesn't happen in a vacuum. Um. You not only
have Christian McCaffrey and Leonard four nett I know that
that some people look at at Dalvin Cook and uh
and think, well, he's got some there's some issues there. Like, dude,
Dalvin Cook, he feels like a great twenty one century

(01:00:07):
running back. Right, he can run it between the tackles,
he can catch the ball outside the backfield. Uh, he's
got elite speed, He's decent pass pro like. So the
point is, I think Mixing should be a first round
draft pick. But because there are other options, and because
of the Hickey that he has going against him, because
he struck a woman, I don't think he gets picked tonight.
Final one for the psychic here and it's not all

(01:00:29):
about prospects tonight in the NFL draft, could be some
veterans involved. Do you see Jimmy Garoppolo or Richard Sherman
being dealt in tonight's NFL draft? I think Richard Sherman
gets dealt. I don't think you call around teams and
talk about and openly talk about trading your your star cornerback.

(01:00:49):
It's like you don't call a divorce attorney unless you're
gonna get divorced. Do you like, how do you think
that conversation goes to the dinner table, Like honey, I
just wants you to know I call a divorce attorney,
like nothing really want to do here. I just want
to kind of feel out what the process would be like. Yeah,
see see how that one works out for you. I
think Richard Terman gets traded all right? There? It is Douggie.

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That was Scott lead sack. I guess creepier every time
I hear it. It really does. I don't know if
I don't know, if I don't know if the sack
continues to be opened just that, does anybody else feel
like a certain just just at least as smidge a
smidge dirty? I don't know. Well, it's your sack, so

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I don't really know if we can chime in on that.
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We're gonna take you to what three different NFL spots
that right right, music's We're gonna go to New York
with the Jets. Tennessee check out what the Titans are doing.
And also the Chicago Bears Chicago. Check out what the
Bears are doing as they have Mike Glennon as they're
starting quarterbacks, so do they go defense? Defense? What did
did the Jets? Are the Jets gonna really dropped quarterback again?

(01:02:17):
If not? Like, who's their quarterback? And uh, well Michaelman
and Clay Travis who will become our out kick the
coverage slash Tennessee Titans insider. Plus he's married to a
former Tennessee Titans cheerleader. Don't know if you guys know that.
That's pretty funny. He's definitely got inside uh inside knowledge.
Whoa I can be taken the wrong way of the
Tennessee Titans. First though, let's find out what's training. Been

(01:02:39):
in the biz for over fifteen years now, and I
feel like I got people everywhere and so as we
get you ready for the NFL Draft. Great Draft coverage
tonight on Fox Sports Radio, Jay Glazer, Chris Fieldman, Joel
Klatt all live from Philadelphia. Uh, which kind of weirdly
is has the NFL Draft like it just I don't know,
it's it's so much. I'm not a New Yorker. Okay,

(01:03:01):
I've lived in New York the past two and a
half three years. My dad and mom are from the
New York area. My dad was really more of a
New Yorkers. It should be in New Yorker l A, Like,
let me should stop fooling around with these other and
I know they're gonna probably give it to Dallas whatever.
It should be a New Yorker l A be um
in in at l A live, or should be at
Madison Square Garden like it's just bigger there, um and

(01:03:25):
and I almost feel like you're feeding the feeding the wolves,
the han yaks, that the idiot eagle fans, that that
booed good players and that cheered bad players. I don't know,
that's just anyway. Let's take you around the country, get
you ready for Tonight's NFL Draft with guys that know
a lot more about individual franchises than you and me combined.
It's something we call I got a guy. Sounds like

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you meet a guy. I got a guy. I got
guys everywhere. Let's start in New York City. Uh if
you follow the Jets, you read Minishementa's work. He knows everything,
all the inner workings, talking about the CD underbelly. He
knows what goes on in the Jets franchise. As he
joined us now on Fox Sports Radio, miniche the six

(01:04:10):
pick overall last year in the second round. Uh, they
drafted a quarterback. They don't really have anything to add quarterback,
and there's some talk that they could they could take one.
There's also j Howard sitting out there. What's your sense
of what the Jets do. I think they are not
going to take a quarterback in the first round, and
actually fairly certain that that. I would be surprised if
they took a quarterback in either of the first two rounds.

(01:04:32):
They want to give Christian Hackenberg some opportunity in two
dozen and seventeen to see if you've any chance of
being their future, because if he does, great, you move
on with him in two dozen and eighteen. If you don't,
you can set the cord and look towards what looks
like a pretty deep quarterback class in next year's dress.
So I don't believe with all the different areas of

(01:04:53):
need that they had at the go quarterback at six. Uh.
You know, they've got a lot of holes in the
defensive secondary, so I would just whom shafety and cornerback
arm play you mentioned O. J. Howard. They could obviously
use difference makers on the offensive side of the ball.
So I just think it's a little premature and little
early to take a tight end so they can go
in any number of directions. That's a round about way

(01:05:15):
of me saying they's going anyway. I think the preference
right now, as it has been for the last month,
has been to trade down into accumulate more picks so
they can address all these different areas. That made it's smart.
But then you have a you have a coach that's
under a probably an enormous pressure to win, Like, how
does that like? It sounds like I think the plant

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that's a smart plan. It's, by the way, the plan
I think the Brown should take as well, because there's
probably not the immediate answer at quarterback. How does this
affect the coaching the coaching situation if they're not gonna
get somebody who helps them immediately on the offensive side,
which is also still a big hole. Classes great question,
you know, Todd Bowles kind of saw this last year

(01:05:57):
when Christian Hackerber was taken overall pick and didn't even
take a snap off season. Uh, there is no perfect
answer to your question, Doug. Obviously, if the Jets field
that Todd bowls is part of this rebuilding process, he'll
stick around regardless of the record. And owner Willy Johnson
has come out and said that there is no playoff
mandate obviously in two thousands and seventeen, so they're not

(01:06:19):
gonna sniff that, but he is going to gauge whether, uh,
there will be changes in the front office and the
coaching staff based on the progress that he sees. And
that's kind of a nebulous way of describing it. But
I think that the Jets take some important strides, especially
with their younger players, guys that Mike mccagnet drafted in
two thousands and fifteen and two thousands and sixteen, and

(01:06:41):
of course the rookies that they bring in this year.
If those guys improve and make some tangible strides in
the right direction, I think that Todd Bowles and mccagnet
will both be back in two thousand and eighteen. Give
me a name you mentioned defense. There's this is a
defensive back heavy draft. Uh there's also you know, Ruben
Foster maybe slipping John with an Allen. There's some talk
about his shoulder being a problem. Give me a defensive

(01:07:03):
name that if they trade back, is a target for
the Jets that you could expect to see in green
when the first round is over. But obviously it depends
how far they fall back. But if it's only a
couple of spots, or even if they can't trade and
are stuck at six, for lack of a better phrase, stuck.
I think that Malik Cooker, the safety from Ohio State,

(01:07:24):
makes a lot of sense for a number of different reasons.
Their safeties were awful last year, particularly in coverage. MALIEK.
Cooker is probably the best free safety center fielder that's
going to be available in the first half of the
first round, and I think he makes a lot of sense.
He's a lot different safety than a guy like Jamal Adams,
is probably already going to be taken off the board. Adams,

(01:07:44):
of course, is more of a strong safety type and
not necessarily as good in coverage. So if you look
at what the Jets need to try to marry that
with some you know, top end talent that's going to
be available. Uh, I think that Hooker makes the most sense,
but uh, you know, I personally will go with Leonard Fornett.
I don't know if he's gonna make it to six,
but as we talked about earlier with O. J. Howard,

(01:08:07):
they need some offerings offensive game changers and difference makers,
and to me, for Nett would be the no brainer
choice if he were still on the board. Miniche Meta,
you can read his work at the New York Daily News.
Of course, you can follow him on Twitter at m
M Meta. That's m E h T A n y
d NS New York Daily News. Miniche great stuff as always,
can't wait to read your coverage post mortem. Thanks for

(01:08:28):
joining us. I got a guy. I got a guy
in Tennessee. He knows a lot about the Titans. His
name is Clay Travis. He hosts six nine AM on
Fox Sports Radio. It's called Out to Kick the coverage
with Clay Travis. Clay, your boys, the Titans have a quarterback? Uh?
Do they trade out of that first pick? Yeah? I

(01:08:49):
think if they can they will. And the news just
came down. I don't know if you saw it, Mary
Kay Cabin, I think is her name reporting? Uh, she's
a b writer that Miles Garrett is going to be
the overall number one pick for the brown So I
think that leads into an interesting question. Can the Browns
moved back up from twelve, uh to five, get the
Titans pick, give up their twelve pick, maybe tossing in

(01:09:11):
a second rounder as an appetizer there for the Titans,
and then get in above the Jets or you were
just talking about, and potentially get Miles Garrett at one
their defensive end and then also get the top quarterback
in this year's draft, obviously according to most experts. Mr Travisky. Alright,
so then if they trade back, who becomes their targets?

(01:09:31):
I mean, like, look, they need defensive back helping this
the defensive back deep draft. You as a Titan fan,
you knowing the the organization, who should they be targeting? Yeah,
so they need corners, uh, and they need corners in
a bad way, and they need safety is in a
bad way. I mean, the Titans second theory was so atrocious.
But they also need help at wide receivers. So this
is a this is a really like heavy defensive draft.

(01:09:54):
I think the Titans might have the luxury here might
be a little bit crazy, but with the situation that
we saw coming out of out of Cleveland, right with Conley,
maybe you can trade back with that second round pick
that you're picking up if you feel like, based on
your investigation, this guy who otherwise might have been a
top ten pick at corner, if you feel like you
can get him there. I'm just kind of tossing it

(01:10:15):
out there. If you feel like you could get him
in the second round and that he's clean right, that
you've done your due diligence, and you feel like as
a second round pick that you just picked up, that
it would be worth the risk there, then I actually
wouldn't mind them doubling down in the first round and
going with a couple of big weapons, one at that
twelve spot. Let's say they trade back from five. Let's
say they go to twelve. I like the idea of

(01:10:37):
going with somebody like O. J. Howard at tight end.
You could compare him also already with with a great
tight end that you've already got and uh and potentially
be able to make plays there with double tight end sets.
I think that could be with Delaney Walker. Obviously, for
people who don't know that the Titan Sep Delaney Walker,
He's been a very reliable receiving threat. And then maybe
at eighteen you go get either Mike Williams or Corey

(01:10:59):
Davis or awesome one of those three wide receivers, depending
on which one you like the most. Probably two of
them are still there. And then with that second round pick, again,
I'm just kind of speculating here that this might happen.
If the rounds are gonna try to go get Rabisky
now that news has already come out that they're gonna
take Miles Garrett, then you get two real offensive playmakers
down the field. With Marcus Mariotta's you think you have
a top ten offense, I mean top ten quarterback already,

(01:11:21):
You've already got running backs with Derrick Henry and uh
and everything else, and that's hard to set up there.
So I think it just potentially potentially makes a lot
of sense for them to go double offense if they
trade back, and you could get again a top ten
corner in the second round and feel like your team
has gotten substantially better. Yeah, it's it's honestly, it's kind

(01:11:41):
of Bengals type of move to get uh Gary and
Conley uh in the second round. But it's it's it
could be smart, but you gotta do your due diligence
to find out is this just really bad luck or
or is this guy? Is this guy bad news? Like
that's a boy you gotta trust. I feel like you
get the risk element back, right. If you're trading back
and you're getting that twelve pick, then you almost can

(01:12:03):
take a flyer on a guy with that second round pick.
Does that make sense because then you're not necessarily thinking like,
oh my god, I can't believe you blew that pick.
You're saying, look, we think that based on our investigation,
he's not going to be charged. If he is charged,
then that's something that obviously is is a risk that
we weren't willing to take. Will will put him, you
know all, let him, let the authorities deal with him.
But we think if this guy has been innocent, that

(01:12:25):
he's been unfairly targeted here and he otherwise would have
been a top ten pick and we're getting him basically
for free. Again, I'm just spitballing, but that's something that
if I were sitting in the Titans room right now,
that would obviously make a lot of sense to me.
Clay Travis out kicked the coverage you can here at
six to nine am Eastern Time on all your Fox
Sports radio affiliates. Clay, thanks so much for joining us. Yeah,

(01:12:46):
happy to be on. Thanks. I got a guy. Got
a guy in Chicago, Rich Campbell from the Chicago Tribune
and covering the Bears. Rich. What are the Bears gonna
do with that early first round pick, Doug. I think
they're gonna go defense. And that's not what I would
do if I were turning in the card. If I
were turning in the card, I'd go with the Shawn Watson,
who I think he's uh possible franchise changing quarterback. I

(01:13:10):
think it's a risk worth taking because of the type
of the leader he is, the competitor he is, the
production he had at Clemson, and his coach ability in
terms of fixing some of the downfield accuracy issues he's had.
But I think they're gonna end up going with a
defensive player and really trying to max out this best
player available philosophy. Who that is for them. It's it's

(01:13:33):
a bit difficult to say because they are so bad
that so many guys can can fill a need I
think for me, if you guys stand out at this point,
Solomon Thomas, defensive lineman from Stanford, and then the type
of quickness and power that he plays with, and Marshawn Lattimore,
the corner out of Ohio State. The Bears the last
two years in free agency have been in at the
top of the market and failed bids for cornerbacks, so

(01:13:55):
we know they value that position and Lattimore checks the boxes.
Is that top of a very very deep glass. Uh?
What's the reaction to Mike Glennon at quarterback from Bears fence?
It's very tepid, you know, like a lukewarm water running
over I would say vanilla ice cream. And and I
think really it's sort of ironic too, because for years

(01:14:16):
people have been talking about the Bears need to draft
and develop a quarterback, maybe try to find value in
the third or fourth round of the draft. Well, Mike
Glennon embodies that he was the third round pick of
the Buccaneers, and a couple of resime changes, they're really
buried him on the depth chart and and really it's

(01:14:36):
gonna be an interesting storyline one way or the other
with Glennon, regardless of what the Bears do at quarterback
in this draft, because I firmly believe that Glennon is
their starter in Week one, regardless of whether they get
a quarterback at number three Mr. Rbisky, Deshaun Watson or
or wait on that. So glenn is gonna have his
chance here and it'll be interesting to see how much
he has developed behind Jameis Winston and Tampa Bay Rich

(01:14:58):
Campbell Chicago tribute Bears beat writer Pallum at Rich underscore Campbell,
enjoy the draft, look forward to catch up with the
real soon. Thanks for being our guy in Chicago. You
got it, Doug Uh come up next? What did the
Fox say? Will you wait to hear what Shannon Sharpe
said about Christian McCaffrey heading into tonight's draft. That's next,

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of the more interesting takes from those shows and something
we call what did the Fox say and now say So?

(01:16:30):
Earlier today, Shannon Sharp was talking with Skip Bayless about
the best running miss a running back heavy NFL draft,
and with so much of the focus on Joe Mixon
and his off the field issues going back three years ago,
sometimes we missed on the variety of weaponry at running
back going into the league. Here's what Shannon had to

(01:16:52):
say as to who he thought the best prospect was.
I've always said that I thought Christian McCaffrey was the
best back in the draft. Return game exceptional punts and
kickoff hands he could legitimately be a slot receiver if
that's a route he chose to go. He can run
between the tackles, he can run with speed. I think
he's the best back in the draft. See I I'm

(01:17:14):
not sure that. I Actually I don't agree with him
in terms of him being the best back in the draft.
Leonard Fournett is the best pure running back in the draft.
Dalvin Cook maybe a better overall running back. What McCaffrey
is to me is a has a more diverse skill set.
As he said, he can return kicks, he can line
up at wide receiver, he can be uh, he can

(01:17:34):
be a slot guy, he can be put him in motion,
he can catch out the back flip, and he can
run some between the tackles. So while I disagree with
him in terms of the term best running back, I
would agree with him if he changed it just a
little bit to say, look, what Christian McCaffrey brings you
is a diverse skill set. And then to take it
one step further, do you want an old school, old

(01:17:56):
fashioned running back. If you do, that's four net. But
for me to do since seventeen, I want a guy
I can split out wide and I can have the
mismatch of a linebacker on my running back because this
guy might be a running back, but he runs routes
like a wide receiver. That's where the Reggie Bush comparison
comes in. It's you can use him all over the

(01:18:17):
field and open up other people because you're so focused
on that as a mismatch. All right, we got a
lot to get into. Well, we'll play what did the
Fox Say? Up coming next as well because Colin Cowherd
said something I think is really smart about quarterbacks getting
ready for the NFL Draft. Plus, speaking of quarterbacks, former
first round draft pick and NFL wash out Tom Murnovich

(01:18:40):
will join us next hour and talk about what went
wrong and what he would tell at NFL Draft Prospect
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all had a Princess Leah thing growing up. Women are
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couple of years and I started doing UM nationally televised
basketball games at ESPN. I was doing local radio in
Oklahoma's city and we bought a house UM in a
lower area called Edgemon Park, great little area in downtown
Oklahoma City. And my wife said the sexiest thing to

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me that any any wife, any not non sexual, sexy
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and this this again is you have to remember the time.
This is in two thousand and two thousand and two.
And so my wife said to me. Um. I came
home from work one day I was doing a midday

(01:20:33):
radio show and she said, ready for the sexy line.
This is like ready for the dumb button, because this
is really sexy. She said, why haven't you bought a
big screen TV yet? That's what she said to me.
I mean, like, can you think of a sexier thing,
non sexual sexy thing for your wife to say to
you as a grown man, like why haven't you bought

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a big screen TV yet? So I was like, I
really have no answer to that. So of course, I
meetly got in the car, drove out the best buy
but the biggest damn thing I could I could find. Uh,
it was one of those Mitsubishi like rolling TVs. Right,
I got one of those, and of course you know
I'm I get I'm a floor model guy, like, yeah,
it's been open, who cares put it in the house? Um.

(01:21:17):
But from there, I then I was like, well, I
got a little extra change in my pocket. I got
a nice used like a five year old like used
Lexus and I was like, I got some rims. Now,
I got the Lexus used, I got the rims. They
had a little bit of a scuff markle scratch on them, which,
of course when they're brand new, uh, lessons the value
on them. But like, who's gonna know. The point is

(01:21:39):
that between big screen TVs, barbecues and rims, Like yeah,
kind of guy things that women are like why are
you wasting a thousand dollars or two thousand dollars on
rims on a car? Like you just don't understand. NFL
Draft is one of those things. But because tonight's draft. Um,

(01:21:59):
I watch a lot of college football. And when I
say a lot, I mean that's what I do on Saturdays,
aside from kids have soccer, son has soccer or flag
football or basketball whatever. If I'm anywhere near my house,
college football is going and I have two TVs. I'm
a huge Big twelve guy. I love big tag twelve guy.

(01:22:21):
I love the SEC. I have a grudging respect for
the Big Ten because there's the top of that cop.
But I also laugh at the other side of the
Big ten and how soft the the the West is.
All that said, I watch a ton of college football.
I gotta be honest with you. I've seen Mitch Robinski

(01:22:41):
throw like three passes right, I've seen Deshaun Watson play
a lot we like Clemson. In my house, we just
have this. We like teams that were orange. We love
Howards Rock and Clem. I've seen Clemson play more than most,
but by and large, as a guy who loves college
football and watches I would guess on average four to

(01:23:01):
five college football games every Saturday. I watched the Thursday
night game because usually Thursday night and NFL football stinks.
I'll watch college football every week. Let's be honest. Do
you have any idea about any of these defensive backs? No?
Do you really know if Jonathan Jonathan Allen was a
monster this year for Alabama? Do you how how many

(01:23:24):
plays have you specifically focused on Jonathan Allen from Alabama
a little? You don't know any of these guys yet
you formed an opinion on them, and you know if
they fit any NFL draft project. Correct? Why? Because you're
a guy and tonight is a because you're a guy night.
Your wife walks in and says, Okay, you got a

(01:23:46):
football jersey on, you got a beer in your hand,
and no one will win and no one will lose,
and there'll be no instant replays. And you haven't seen
any of these these players play a single snap in
your entire life, you have no idea if they're actually
any good, And yet you could not be more into this.
And when she turns you and says, why are you
watching this? I want to watch X y Z you

(01:24:08):
take honey, I am a man. I can't explain why
I'm so into this, but I mean incredibly into this.
Is that? Is that an accurate portrayal of of any
of your lives? Ramos music? But I don't know if
yours into this? What about you Dan? Dan Buyer? Is this?
Are you that into this? Into the entire process of it? Um? Gosh,

(01:24:31):
I've never watched the college football game thinking that guy
is really going to be good at the next level,
like actively look through it. Um. There may be some
things in a game, like, for example, Michael Thomas, who
is a rookie for the Saints last year, you could
see at Ohio State that he had pro game, But
I was never going in being like, huh, how is
he going to match up against this? It's just never, never,

(01:24:52):
never even comes into my mind. M But in terms
of how much you're watching tonight, are you going for now?
Did your your fiance your fiance your your fiance, are
you guys living in sin. I don't know if I yeah, yeah, no, yes,
we live together. Yes, she'll let she'll let you. I

(01:25:14):
love that she lets you watch. Is she into it? No,
not at all? She well, she will try um at times,
she tried earlier the relationship, and she does. She does
like it when I'm watching it. But does she really
like watching the actual game? I'm not too sure. Does
that make any sense? I think she takes enjoyment of
me getting, you know, such excitement out of it. So

(01:25:37):
I think that that's why that she likes it. But okay,
can I give you a little of merrow advice for you? Sure? Sure, okay?
Uh Ramas you're married, right is correct? Long long time
to like you get what you told me eighteen years said,
you're the only one who you You definitely hit the over,

(01:25:59):
you hit the vers Well, thank you, Ramisaonid. I don't
know if you you believe in this is what? Look um?
What's past is president? Right? You know that that you
know that expression right was past this president? You have
to remember that in marriage, she's going to try and
train you. A matter of fact, she is going to
train you. You are nothing more to her than a

(01:26:19):
labrador retriever. Right. She is going to train you. She's
going to make you cleaner, a better version of yourself.
That's what women believe their job is to do. On
the other hand, you have to you have to pick
a couple of battles to win. You're gonna lose the
war You've gotta win. You can win a couple of
battles and like, I'll give you an example. I I

(01:26:40):
hate folding clothes. I just don't. I don't mind Washington.
I hate folding clothes so early on our relationship, honey,
will you help me fold? Of course, I'll help you fold. Now.
Do I fold perfectly? Of course I don't do. I
fudget a little bit worse so that I don't. I'm
asked to. I am actively asked to never fold a
piece of clothing again. I actually lee do the same

(01:27:00):
thing goes to do in the dishes. I'd love to
help you with the dishes. What men do? We gotta
help our wives with the dishes? Do I miss a
spot here or there? Do I struggle with aligning the
plates just so into the dishwasher because he becomes freshtat
you know, I'll just do it. That's what I hear,
I'll just do it. And with football you have to
work out that, sweet honey, like, I'll do whatever you want.

(01:27:23):
But there are certain windows in our life where this
is danpire. Remember this is your job, this is your future.
This has nothing whether you like the football game or
don't like the football game, whether you're into the draft
or not in the draft, whether you've seen these guys
or not. Honey, this is my profession. I need this
window of time. And if you build in those little winds,
you're gonna lose the war, but you'll win those battles

(01:27:45):
which you could call on like for the rest of
your marital life. Is that John Ramos? Is that sound
marital advice? That does? It? Is sound marital advice? Yes?
I love that. I love Ramos already. He agrees with
everything I said say he can stay laugh and he
agrees with that everything I say. He can stay gamefully employed.
Music doesn't doesn't marriage sound fun? Aren't you ready to
just dive in and lose half your stuff? I haven't

(01:28:07):
even been dating my girlfriend for a full calendar year,
yet you guys have me so excited about marriage. I
might just propose. I might just do it. Um we played.
For a matter of fact, let's reach you up. So
every day, periodically throughout the show, I like to bring
in things that other people say and give my own
commentary on I think. Getting ready for this draft, we've

(01:28:29):
heard Mary kay Cabot from the Cleveland Plane Dealer or
Cleveland dot com, which is their their website. She reports
Miles Garrett's could be the number one pick, which proves
that even Cleveland can't Cleveland up this first round pick.
She also, in a reporting said that they'd like to
get another quarterback at twelve and they might trade up,
but they're not gonna pay too much for it. They

(01:28:50):
also like the fact they have other picks to which
they could take them homes, they could take uh, Deshaun Watson.
My guess is that the Cleveland Browns, as much as
we think they're all idiots, they're not that big idiots. Right.
They're not gonna draft Johnny Manzil again. It's just not
gonna happen again. They realized, like the rest of us, dude,

(01:29:10):
you it doesn't it doesn't matter. People like well, they
shouldn't have passed on Carson Wentz last year. Carson Wentz
would have had no chance behind that offensive line last year. None.
He would have been injured or he would have been mauled.
He would have been so shaken by the fact he
wouldn't had time to plant his his lead foot and
throw the football. He'd be thrown off his back leg.
He would have been a mess. Like, you have to

(01:29:31):
put a better team around whoever is going to be
your quarterback if you want a chance to succeed. And
oh yeah, by the way, if you happen to suck
yet again, yet start to crew better talent um. That
puts you in great position to draft one of the
very good quarterbacks coming out next year's draft class. But
take a listen to what Colin Cowherd had to say

(01:29:52):
earlier today on The Herd. Be very careful about saying
you want to be the number one quarterback, Mr Drobiski,
because I'm here to tell you the number one draft
pick as a quarterback is overrated. You do realize when
you go number one, you're getting, on average, a coach
who's going to be fired. I'd rather go to a
better head coach and a better culture, especially at quarterback. Look,

(01:30:17):
I just want I want reasonable expectations and any time
you're drafted number one overall, there becomes unreasonable expectations. It's
it's one of the things in college sports people talk about,
um inside kind of the Beltway, right, They'll say, you
don't want a new president, you don't want a new
a d and you especially don't want a new arena
or a new stadium. Why do you not want a

(01:30:38):
new arena new stadium because it raises expectations like, oh, look,
you got this great facility, you should have a great team.
It raises those expectations. That's that's why you don't want
to go number one overall. Frankly, you don't want to
be the first quarterback. Take it. I want to lower expectations.
I want to give myself a chance to develop, understand
the entire offense. And um boy, I really um um.

(01:31:03):
I would be much more excited about Mitch Mitchell Trabinsky
if he had time to catch his breath and get
a get a sense of the NFL game before being
thrust in. And I don't I think many of these teams,
if you draft him in the top five of the draft,
they're gonna force him into play, and that's a bad
thing for developmental quarterbacks. Which it feels like all of

(01:31:26):
these guys are all right. Coming up next, speaking of
quarterbacks who are thrust in to action maybe way too early,
who weren't ready for not just the physical but also
the mental and social aspects to being a number one
draft pick. Todd Manovich was the first pick for the
Raiders in the NFL Draft. He was out of the
league two years later. We'll talk about his downfall, his

(01:31:49):
fight for sobriety, and what his advice would be to
any of these young prospects getting ready for tonight's NFL draft.
That's next. Sports Radio getting started at eight o'clock Eastern time.
Jay Glazer, Chris Bielman, and Joel Klatt will be all

(01:32:12):
in Philadelphia call in the NFL Draft and if there's
a look like JaMarcus Russell is probably the most recent
NFL draft bust to go in the first round, to
go with the number one overall pick at the quarterback position.
Johnny Manzel also comes to mind historically in terms of
guys that have off the field issues yet great on

(01:32:34):
the field talent. Todd Arnovich is a name that that
always comes up. He was the first round draft pick
of the l A then l A Raiders, the number
twenty four pick in the draft, actually started some as
a rookie and then flamed out of the league because
of drug use and then injuries that followed, and he's
been in and out of rehab throughout his post football

(01:32:57):
and during his football life. He's Uh. You may have
seen the thirty for thirty on him called the Bernovitch Project.
And of course as recently as last year, he fell
off the wagon and was found naked in someone's backyard
and UH has plat out. That's going back to last
August and he was he had relapsed. Since then, I

(01:33:20):
believe he's been clean and he's UH, somebody I've known
for most of my life as I grew up in
the same area. I trained with his dad. I watched
him play high school football, high school basketball, and it's
kind of have to spend some time this year on
draft Day give us a sense of where he is
personally and any advice he would give to others. Todd Bernovich,
former sc and Raider quarterback, joining us on the Doug

(01:33:42):
Outlive Show. I don't know if you're Todd day counter,
but how many days have you been? You know, I'm
not a I do have a sobriety day, and I'm
not a day counter. All as I have is today, Doug,
and so um, it's it's what I do today in
my recovery. And I just left a local high school.
I was out in the desert now and I spoke
with some football players of Palm Dennert High School. And

(01:34:06):
that's what I do. I give back. And uh, you know,
this illness that I have is the origin of it
is selfishness and self centerness. And so to get out
of that, I have to be a service. And I
get to be a service today to take her my
whole life. And it is such so gratifying to leave
a school and connect. If it's just connecting with one

(01:34:30):
kid to make him think a little bit differently you
know about my life struggles, then it's a win. You
mentioned your sobriety. How is this time different than previous
times in trying to stay sober? You know, past attempts,
I've achieved physical sobriety, and that really is just the
starting point. And without physical sobriety, you have nothing. But

(01:34:53):
there's so much more today. I live by spiritual principles
that are as old as man himself and there's nothing new,
but they were new to me. And I have a
way of living, kind of a new playbook, if you will,
that I do on a daily basis, and it's totally

(01:35:14):
revolutionized my way of life. And I like to measure
my sobriety on quality of life. And my life today
is better than I've ever known it. In the past,
I put things ahead of my recovery and um in
the past, I wasn't willing to do the things necessary.
And that's the point really simply, I wasn't willing to

(01:35:37):
do the work. And I just got to a point
where the humiliation of an arrest, the self loathing that
I felt, was enough to get me to that point
of desperation. And it's a gift that that point that
I that I got to our guest on the Dug
out Lip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So with today

(01:35:58):
being draft a help me out, like if you were,
let's let's start with the team. If a team knows
that a guy has like weed in his background, Like,
what are the red flags? How should we know that
something is not just a normal college kid who smoked
to join at a party. You know, it's hard to
say where you know, where you cross that line to

(01:36:18):
becoming and you know, a full blown alcoholic or addict.
It's because there's so much of it that goes on,
as you know, even at the high school level and
especially on a college campus, drugs and alcohol. You know,
I don't think anything is a red flag if the
individual is willing to do something different. Man, you know,

(01:36:41):
if they're smoking pot, or they're doing coke, or they're
drinking too much. Now let's address it. Lets you know
the whole thing that my point is, keeping secrets about
this and trying to cover it up is not the
way to handle it. Or two chastise and look down
on a kid that has experimenting. Let's just let's bring

(01:37:02):
it to light and talk about it. And it's not
that he's a bad guy. That's not That's not helpful
in any in anybody's case. Let's address it. Does it
matter the market, like, is l a more of a
party market or is that kind of stuff that can
happen anywhere anywhere? Doug, And that's what somebody asked me.

(01:37:22):
What it has been a different story thought if if
the Raiders wouldn't have drafted you and you would have
gotten to leave l A and gone anywhere else. I could.
You know what, I would have blown up in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
It wouldn't have mattered. Um, because my solution at that
point in my life, uh was substances. And that's the

(01:37:42):
way that that was the way I lived, and that
was my only I was self medicating and until I
really looked did some real self examination and looked at
some of these issues of why I feel the need
to escape, and I'm myself, I'm just gonna keep doing
it no no matter where I was. Right. Here's here's

(01:38:04):
the really hard question for me and you to kind
of tackle your dad of two. I'm a dad of three.
My dad pushed really hard, not as hard as your dad.
And of course I worked out with your dad, and
so I didn't have your dad twenty four hours a day. Now,
let's take the parenting side to it. How do you
push your kid and give them opportunities to excel in athletics.
On the other hand, how do you allow them to

(01:38:25):
be a kid and not and not push too much,
not not create an environment which can you can have
the kind of relationship that you had that went bad
with your dad. Yeah, good question, and it's a fine line.
You know. What I try to do with mine is
to expose them two different team sports. Because I am

(01:38:45):
a sports I really believe in team athletics and not
to be to someday be professionals at it, just the
basic principles that that you've learned by by being on
a team. I think it's the must for for a kid.
And so I don't care what my kids play. I'm

(01:39:06):
just really going to encourage them to play something and
then let them start making two decisions, because that's really
one of the things that you know, my dad will
even admit to, is um not letting me make any
and then turning me loose. And we saw what happened about. Uh.
You also exceptionally bright in terms of the quarterback position. Um,

(01:39:26):
and even though there were times that there were struggles
picking up the playbook that was more about sobriety, not
about intelligence quotion. I'm wondering what if you sat down
with Mitchell Robinsky, if you sat down with Deshaun Watson
and you're like, hey, dude, this is what I you know, like,
if I could go back to and this is this

(01:39:46):
is what I would do. You know, the presidents have
first hundred days in office. We just marked that with
with Trump like this is these are the things that
I would do. Forget about the sobriety part to it. Obviously,
we know that's important, but you also know a ton
about the We know a tell you know it's on
about the position. How would you advise these guys? You know,
I didn't even give myself a chance looking back on it,

(01:40:08):
because there were times, Doug, that I was walking up
to the line of scrimmage thinking in my head, Okay,
my ex receiver is doing a hook route at my
tight ends. That stuff needs to be second nature. You
have to know and feel um with every play called,
where everybody is at all times, and so preparation is paramount,

(01:40:33):
especially at the highest level. And if you're having to
think about reads and where am I going to go
and who's running what, you are not gonna be playing
at your highest level. You're not gonna like like I did.
Was I was just ill prepared and really wasn't. Uh,
you know, I didn't even give myself a chance in

(01:40:54):
that in that aspect. Do you do you still watch
the draft? Will you watch the draft tonight? No? You
know what my time is limited and uh yeah, who
goes where isn't on my list of priorities today. What
do you think of Sam Donald? He is and you
know what, I said this on social social media early

(01:41:14):
in the season last year. He's the best USC quarterback
by far that they've ever had. And I had a doug,
I had all kinds of remarks about that until the
Rose Bowl. What a player, man. He is so fun
to watch and he's the real deal. He can do
it all and I just hope the Trojans can keep

(01:41:37):
him around for more than one more. Yeah, bro, I
gotta tell you, I was at the game in the
Rose Bowl where you were. Both you and U c
l A scored twenty one point. Both teams scored twenty
one points. I don't know. You're pretty good in that
it was not in the Rose Bowl, but in the
actual bull That was so for you to say that,
that's that's pretty tough stuff. Hey, look, man, I can't
tell you how much I appreciate you joining us and

(01:41:59):
more than anything, uh, it's great to hear your voice
and that you're in such a good place like you
know you have that. I know there are people that
have they have they like to read stories about people
failing because it makes them feel better about their lives.
But there's also a I think greater chunk of people
that want to see you win this fight that no

(01:42:20):
it's a daily fight, and when they hear your voice
and when they know that you're you're attacking this thing differently,
that they become even greater fans of you than they
were a fans of you as a player. So I
can't tell you how much I appreciate you join us.
Thanks Doug. There has been so much support, you know,
through my ups and downs over the years. I am
so grateful to have you know, fans and then family

(01:42:43):
and really close friends that I couldn't do this alone.
That's one thing I want to say if anybody is
struggling with this illness, you don't have to do it alone. Man, Todd,
great stuff. Thanks so much for sharing with us. Thanks
for sharing with the high school players today. I look
forward to catching up with you in person. Appreciate being
our guest on Foxbobo Tradio. Thanks do I appreciate having
me ask Todd Bernovich, former USC and l A Raider quarterback,

(01:43:07):
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(01:43:29):
get there's a bunch of draft rumors out there. We'll
just try and tackle them. Oh, tackle them. Wow, that
was really bad. After we get to what's trending, Doug
Alief Show rolls on Fox Sports Radio getting ready for
the NFL Draft night. Also some nb A whoop tonight,

(01:43:52):
give you my thoughts on the assissation and some of
those games. Um we got some uh well, I got
some news on Steph Curries shoes that everybody made fun
of last year, some not so shocking news about Steph
Curries under armour shoes. We got some Jonas cspitous news.

(01:44:14):
We've got some bulls Rondo news, we got NFL draft news.
One of the things I want to encourage you to
do is you turn into the show and you're gonna
feel like In addition, to getting my thoughts and some
thoughts of some of the the great guests. Um that
some of the great guests do you have around the country. UM.

(01:44:35):
I also think that you'll get caught up on everything
you might have missed. That's why we bring you the press,
the press. Dan Buyer joins us, how many you gotten there? Dan?
How many? How many stories in your package? We've got them? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight? Yes,

(01:44:59):
eight today trying let's try and get to all eight stories. Okay,
let's do it. Let's start at the top of the draft,
where we know, according to Cleveland dot Com that Myles
Garrett is gonna go to the Cleveland Browns number one overall.
But there's more to that report by Mary Kay Cabot,
who was on the show with you earlier this week, Doug.
She says, the Bronze right now are actively trying to
trade up from number twelve so they can also get

(01:45:20):
Mitchell Trabinsky from North Carolina. Yeah, this is kind of
what we talked about, right. It's like, who really wants
a quarterback that would be drafting ahead of them? Like,
is there somebody who actually legitimately wants to or are
they simply like, do the Jets really want to draft
Mitch to Trabinsky? If I'm Cleveland, I just everybody said, well,

(01:45:41):
would you trade up? Yes? But what do I have
to pay? Do I have to pay a second round pick?
Like I'm Cleveland? They need to accrue talent, Like I
like Trabinsky, but I don't like them so much that
I'm willing to raid all of my second round picks
from this year or even from next year. Like, we
need dudes, young dudes to fly around defensively, young dudes

(01:46:02):
to get after the quarterback, young dudes to provide weaponry,
uh for our whoever our quarterback is. So would they
like to Yes, But don't get it twisted. Just because
you want to trade up doesn't mean you do trade
up if the asking price is too steep. They do
have ten other picks in this draft in addition to
the Garrett selection that would be at number one. How
about the Denver Broncos Ducks sitting at number twenty, and

(01:46:24):
there's a report from Jason Cole of the Bleacher Report
that the Broncos are trying to trade up. Some have
speculated the eye of the prize for John Elway Stanford
running back Christian McCaffrey. Of course his dad played uh
with John Elway, and um, he would provide them a
really versatile talent. But is that what they need? I mean,

(01:46:46):
the Trevor Simeons your quarterback. I guess getting a verse
to the weapon is a good thing. And maybe they
feel like, hey, look, Dan, we we don't we need
we were at luxury item, but they need help in
the offensive line like that. That's been a big problem
for them. But the McCaffrey, the lineage of it, the
relationship between the two playing at Stanford, Alway played at Stanford,

(01:47:08):
all that stuff makes a bunch of sense. I just
don't know if that said, that feels like a luxury item.
And I don't know if if that's where the Broncos
are with Trevor Simeon at their quarterback position. How about
this NFL note from earlier this week, Speaking at a
charity function, actor Tom Hanks says he's going on a
pro football moratorium after his hometown Raiders announced that they

(01:47:29):
are leaving Oakland. So Tom Hanks maybe giving up pro
football for two years? Did he give up pro football
the last time they left Oakland? Sure? Is he giving
up Warriors basketball when they leave Oakland to go to
San Francisco, like I love all these days, Like I'll
never think you know what this reminds me of? This
reminds me of. I'm never flying United Airlines ever again. Guy.
And then you go on to like Travelocity and United

(01:47:51):
Airlines pops up as the cheapest flight and you're like, alright, fine,
I'll go on the United Airlines right. I'm never gonna
watch Raider games again. The Raiders are good. In your
Raiders fan, you're gonn to watch them. Sorry. By the way,
they're in Vegas, Okay, Vegas is a Southwest flight away. Um?
That what really? Like? How many how many Raider games
did tow Hanks lives in Malibu? How many Raider games

(01:48:12):
are you really going to? If he's gonna go to
a Raider game, he would have he would have flown.
He can, he can fly to Vegas instead of flying
to Oakland. Let's just be honest. Where would you rather
go for a weekend? Oakland or Vegas? Come on, dude,
Oakland's a place where the cost livings going up and
the chance livings going down. So um, I I just
I find it to be really cute that people say

(01:48:33):
they're not gonna they're not gonna go to games, and
yet at the Raiders win, they'll watch him, They'll go
to the games. Last night. Last night there was a
game in Boston. The Southern Celtics top the Chicago Bulls
to make matters worse for the Bulls. At the end,
Dwayne Wade said that they ran out of hot water
in the Celtics shower in the showers at the TD

(01:48:53):
Garden in Boston. Celtics Yes, and uh. President Danny Ainge
was asked the question today a point of the sports
up in Boston about Wade's comments on the cold showers. All,
I'm not even sure that that did. Um, but I don't.
I would not have any idea. Now, Okay, people immediately
are saying this is a throwback. Oddly enough, things like

(01:49:15):
this happened in the Red Hour Backs watch while you
were playing. Danny. I was about to say, I don't
even think they happened many, but I'm pre chewing. Hey. Listen,
we we all grew up in the old Boston garden
where there was rats and where the hot water didn't
work on occasion. So I mean like we had the
same thing that everywhere else had. Fast forward to today, Doug,

(01:49:40):
any issue with the bulls and their lack of hot water? Um, no,
not really. I'll say this about a cold shower. It
is really refreshing. And you know, look when when I
was when I was outcome to stay our first two years,
we had terrible facilities in terms of houring um and

(01:50:02):
like you know, sometimes you'd have one one jet to
pump out the water whatever. Sometimes it would be cold.
It was a really old building and like you know,
how it is you what you do is you there's
a there's a there's a trick to it. You get
in the water really quickly, it freezes, then you get
out of the water, you soap your whole body off.
Then you get into the water really quick or you
you know, this is the one that you splat you

(01:50:23):
you take the water goes in your hand and then
you splash water on yourself and then that washes it off.
But look, dude, you one, I think let the water
warm up too. I'm guessing they could find warm water
in three. It's one of the things that guys will
call up, call back on as one of the cool
things in your life. Like remember the time we didn't

(01:50:43):
have cool one. But I I'm with Danny Ainge. I'm
not sure I actually believe this old wives tale would
be true. I know in our post showers, John always
hugs the hot water, So for our post show showers.
Don't worry, Doug. You can join in at some point. Hey,
I didn't get to this yesterday, but I do want
to pass this along. A Mississippi man is suing R
and B singer R Kelly. Okay, he's suing R Kelly

(01:51:04):
because R Kelly had an affair with his wife. Kenny
Bryant claims that after he married his wife in she
rekindled a previous relationship with R. Kelly and then forced
her husband to quit his job and moved to Atlanta,
which she said at that time she was furthering her career.
Bryant claims now that the real reason they moved to
Atlanta was so his then wife could continue her affair

(01:51:25):
with the R and B singer. Um, where do you
want me to go with that one? I'm just I'm
just saying, like there really R Kelly's fault, that his
wife was cheating on him, and that he wants some
money because he says Hey, I quit my job and
moved with my wife to Atlanta, and then our marriage
broke up because she was hooking up with R Kelly

(01:51:47):
because she was helping. Its not it's not like it's
not like R Kelly has a lot of positive equity, right,
wasn't he allegedly, although not proved in a court of law,
sleeping with underaged women before, Like, um, she should have
kept it on the downlow. That's what she should have done.
But like by forcing you to move, come on, dude,
like you gotta be you gotta be better than that. Um,

(01:52:13):
it's a it's a I guess this. Would you take
a girl who had a previous relationship with R Kelly?
Probably not? Yeah, there you go. That's all you do.
The press, that's the press. A pretty good that's a
pretty good question, right, Like you know, I have no problem.
I'm actually good friends with my wife's like high school

(01:52:35):
early college boyfriend, Like we're the Mary they have triplets,
we have twins. Were actually pretty good friends. Like I'm
pretty confident in myself. There are certain people to which like, nah,
I can't do it, And R Kelly would probably be
that guy because you can't say like, uh, but you
never thought you'd do this before? Like actually, uh yeah,

(01:52:58):
um M. I want to know how he how she
found how he found out that she was getting with
R Kelly kidding? Was it was? It? Did he did he?
Snoop on the cell phone? Right? Was there? I don't know?
There's there? She was furthering her career. I love that one.

(01:53:18):
I love that one. Boy. Love is in fact blind,
that's for sure. Um. Interesting night tonight in sports, right,
you have you have the thing most people will watch
which doesn't actually involve something that doesn't matter at all,
and then you have two games that actually do matter.

(01:53:39):
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(01:54:43):
works for our network and would be willing to appease
us as as a teammates. But you know, we really
went over the top and we got him for you.
You know you're asking you shall receive Doug. That's great,
it's good. It's good work. It's good work. Well, you're
really you're really pushing the envelope of great guests this first. Okay,
so tonight you've got two NBA games that actually matter,
You've got an NFL draft that doesn't matter. It's just

(01:55:05):
so weird right now. If this is a good multi
TV night, other things you can spend money on your house,
like for your house. You should always redo your kitchen first,
your bathroom second. Everything else is tertiary. Kitchen first, and
then of course when you're buying a house, it shouldn't

(01:55:25):
be about anything more than location, location and a lot, location, lot, location, lot.
Then redo the um, then redo the kitchens, in the bathroom,
everything tertiary. But for personal enjoyment as a dude in
my most recent house, and we've lived in a bunch
of different houses, the two TV thing is a game changer.

(01:55:49):
And I don't think some guys go like, well, I
got look four TVs, Like that's great. That's like four cars.
You can't drive four cars. It's kind of like sister wise, like,
you know what, Honestly, I couldn't have I couldn't have
like three wives. Four wives. That's just I already have
one that doesn't think of worth the damn. I don't
need two or three two TVs, not wives, two uh

(01:56:12):
uh TVs? Maybe even cars. Two is it's just about
the perfect number. They say three is a crowd because
then you can watch hoop, and then you can track
the draft, and then I think tonight you have to
have social media because last year, what was the story
of last year's NFL draft Laremy Tunsil, Wasn't it just
an amazing night? The guy went from being a top

(01:56:32):
ten pick to falling to the Miami Dolphins because of
a video of him smoking weed with a gas mask on.
And then they had a press conference to which he
admitted to getting paid by Ole Miss coachers. It was
like incredible that all happened in one night last year
in the first round. You go back a couple of

(01:56:54):
years ago, that was the Geno Smith wasn't drafted, left
the NFL Draft, and then for the second round when
he got draft, he came back to the NFL draft.
Remember that, Like, there's some amazing things. Aaron Rodgers famously
sitting in the green room forever. Obviously he's made the
whole world pay for that. So I do think that
the NFL Draft is worth tracking. I would also tell
you it's a good second TV event. Bucks and Raptors.

(01:57:19):
I do feel like, uh, I do feel like this
is that this is closed out night for the Spurs,
close out night for the Raptors. I think enough is enough,
and both teams win road games and we move on.
We getting ready for the next round of the NBA Clouds,
and uh, it might take a miracle. I'm telling you,
I think Rondo is gonna play in Game six. Is
the Celtics won one Game five. So tomorrow we'll get

(01:57:43):
you all caught up on what happened, the craziness in
round one where the quarterbacks go. I continue to believe though,
that the Browns are smart, not just to draft a
guy who's more of a prospect than a finished product,
but the pressure of being the number one overall pick
is one thing to be a quarterback, To be a
quarterback in Cleveland, well that's that's just overwhelming pressure. And

(01:58:05):
you look at the last three weedon Quinn Manzelle, all
have been buss all right. Enjoyed the fel Draft. This
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