3 & Out - AFC and NFC Championship Weekend Preview - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? I'm
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We have obviously a lot on the line. So what
I did is, I said, you know what, let's just
do who is the most to gain what's on the line,
And I just listed things and I went in kind
of no particular order, but just things that excite me
about this weekend because in these games any even last week,

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but in the second round, in the championship game and
obviously the Super Bowl, are kind of when coaches and
quarterbacks and franchises and general managers really define their career.
So I wanted to look at just what's online for
these guys from a big picture standpoint. And I didn't
go in any particular order, but I just wrote down

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a bunch of stuff and just kind of going to
rattle through it. Obviously it's Fugazi Friday. I need to
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a fugazi that turned out to just be something you need.
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the show. We'll talk about the two games from a
gambling perspective and some other football stuff, but that will

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So let's just dive in. I guess let's just start.
The headline is going to be who has the most again?

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Because you win this weekend, you're off to the super Bowl.
You have the opportunity to change your life forever, right
you become a super Bowl champ. And the headliners in
this sport are the quarterbacks and the coaches and kind
of the franchises, which include the general manager. So this
is not in any order. I didn't rank it in importance.

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I just wrote down the things that fascinate and interest
me the most. There is no disputing that the Denver
Broncos are in an unprecedented situation. We have seen backup
quarterbacks make runs in the playoffs, most famously Nick Foles,
who has a statue with Doug Peterson. But Carson Wentz
got hurt in the regular season. It was in the
game against the Rams. I remember Joe Buck told the

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story he was taking a leak and Howie Roseman was
taking a leak next to him, and Looke at him
and said Carson wentz towards ACL. So Nick Foles had
played games. Hell, he had played a playoff game the
week before, so he had had momentum coming in to
this weekend, to the Final four. That is not the
case with Jared Siddam, who hasn't thrown a pass this year,

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pretty sure didn't throw a pass last year. Now, this
is a guy who was once drafted in the fourth round,
who clearly Sean Payton has talked about glowingly now for
a long time, multiple years. Josh McDaniels, who we would
all agree not a good head coach, one of the
best offensive coordinators of his generation, loved him. Patriots drafted

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Stidham in the fourth round. Then Josh McDaniels, when he
became the head coach of the Raiders, traded for Stidham.
So I'm always a believer in like who believes in you,
who believes in you? And Jared Siddam can say, well,
Josh McDaniels and Sean Payton believe in me. That's that's
pretty impressive. Who is the one backing you? And in football,

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it's like the gms and the coaches that believe in you.
In life. It's like, you know, when you're trying to
get a job and you put your references are some
references are better than others, you know, And I would
say this, the two offensive minds I think Jared Stiddam
can play are pretty prominent NFL people. Now, Sean Payton,
if you can win an AFC championship game with the

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backup quarterback who did not play all season long and
hasn't thrown a pass since the preseason after losing your
quarterback not in like normal football fashion, like eye breaks
his leg, he leaves in the middle of the game.
We've seen some of those this playoffs, right, Sharvion Nay
just got injured, leaves the game, he's out, kittle terrors's
achilles just out for the game, and you understand it

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in the moment, but then the game goes on. You
gotta can people replace him? Bodix has played the whole game. Shit,
he walked off the field. So it's we've never seen
this before. And to me, if Sean Payton can win
a playoff game, an AFC championship game with a backup quarterback,
who is it is? This isn't a backup quarterback who

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had been a full time starter somewhere else, an older
player like a Flacco type. But that's not this case.
This is not a former top Tennish pick who had
fallen on hard times like Daniel Jones what he had
become before he got injured, or even what Sam Darnold
has done resurrecting his career. This guy was drafting the
fourth round. Most people have viewed just a backup quarter

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You're a third day pick. You're gonna be a backup quarterback,
and there's nothing wrong with that. You can be a
backup quarterback for a long period of time, make a
ton of money. Didn't Chase Daniels make like fifteen million
dollars and through a very small amount of passes. But
if you're able to win this game, I think you
would argue clearly there is no topping beating Peyton Manning
in the Super Bowl for the New Orleans Saints. But

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I think this would have to be the second most
important win of his career. It would be something that
would take his status as a coach to a completely
different level. And you know what, in a weird way,
in this offensive explosion of a league, I feel like
Sean Payton and maybe it's because bo Nick's been a
little up and down, doesn't quite get the same credit

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as he used to with the New Orleans Saints. It
doesn't feel like he's held in the same regard Coward does.
That's his guy, But like just casual people think of
who we talk about offensive coaching, right, Obviously Andy stole
the show over the last five or six years, but
it's clearly the younger guys when discussing the offensive coaches.
I mean, I mean, Kyle McVeigh take way more energy

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and we exhaust way more conversation than we do on
Sean Payton. So this would be a moment like pretty
big muscle fletch. Remember me, the guy who was the
offensive wizard, the guy that turned Drew Brees into a
first ballot Hall of Famer, that guy whose offense dominated
for fifteen plus years down in the Bayou, And this
would be a moment that would just never be forgotten

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and would just solidify. I mean, Sean Payton's probably gonna
be Hall of Famer no matter what, but this would
be like rubber stamping it. To take Denver to the
Super Bowl and win a game as a big dog
with a backup quarterback that hadn't played would be pretty nuts.
So Sean Payton, to me, can just be like double

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middle fingers to everybody and given it to Sean Payton,
he might actually do that speaking of his opponent at coach.
You know, it's weird, like the way it ended in Tennessee.
You can always tell, like where the media is getting
their information. I felt like a lot of people kind
of were like, yeah, you know, he's just a tough

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guy to deal with. I kind of understood where Tennessee
was coming. You see. With Genie Buss, I've heard forever
like Geenie Bus, you don't just great person, really nice lady.
I read this article like she would throw all of
her brothers and sisters to great white sharks and not
even think twice. She doesn't give a shit. She's ruthless.
But over the years like, oh, Jennie Buss, a great person,

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high character, a great person deal with, she hates her family,
She's ruthless. And I felt like Vrabel at the end,
like I've heard stories. I knew people that worked in
Tennessee the last couple of years that owners of Buffoon
a moron and one thing that his age really well
is Mike Vrabel was right. He deserved to make people
uncomfortable like he did a really good job. Him and

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John Robinson built a team. People forget this in Tennessee
because I was. I was texting someone the other day,
I was like, you know, Saala takes this job. I
think the job's terrible. Well, they were winning a bunch
of games not that long ago. In Tennessee. It's like, yeah,
they had Derrick Henry, AJ Brown, Jeffrey Simmons, Taylor Luwan

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was one of the best tackles in the league. They
had a Pro Bowl center like they had really Kevin
Byern was a Pro Bowl level guy. They had high
end impact players. Right, this Tennessee job is not that,
And clearly the organization just fell apart the moment Raybel
walked out the door and now you see him in
New England. Which a buddy of mine that's a Bills

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fan was like, I don't know if I could sleep
if the Patriots win another Super Bowl. I mean, they
had a two decade dynasty. Even when I hear like,
well they didn't make a Super Bowl or they didn't
win a Super Bowl for ten years, they were always good.
Even in that gap. I mean, shit, they lost a
couple oh seven they literally didn't lose a game till
the Super Bowl and an eleven when they lost to

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the Giants again, like they were fucking there. So a
lot of teams like, hey, we haven't won a Super
Bowl in twenty five and haven't been there well, like
they were always in the mix, always in these championship games,
and now they're just back, and it just starts thinking,
are they gonna be dramatically better over the next couple
of years. And Mike Vrabel, you know, it used to

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happen a lot. A lot of the guys that were
coaching in the seventies and eighties were former NFL players, right,
and good ones Ditka Dan Reeves, like, these guys played
in the NFL and then just transition right to coaching.
And this was a day and age before guys made
the amount I mean, even money's all relative, but you

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weren't making huge cash coaching football in the NFL in
the seventies or the eighties. Right now, you know, Mike
Vrabel's making fifteen plus million dollars a year, so you're
making player money. Hell, he makes more money now coaching
the Patriots than he ever did per year playing, probably
not even close. But you resurrect the Pats. I mean
that's he already has. But I don't care what your

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path is. You get to the super Bowl, that's remarkable
and even if you're a dog going into that game,
it would be a pretty incredible accomplishment. And I listen,
is it luck? Is it randomness? Like obviously Robert Craft
once upon a time didn't sign Mike Vrabel as a
free agent like Bill did, so he came to the
team because of Bill. You do get credit though for

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hiring Bill. It was pretty I don't know if it
was controversial at the time. I mean it was for
the Jets because he quit and they had a trade
for him. But I don't think teams were lined up
around the block to hire Bill Belichick. So hiring Bill
led them to getting Mike as a coach or as
a player, and that relationship grew, and that's why he's
coaching now because of the relationship with the Craft family

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has with Mike. And now Mike's just gonna resurrect the Pats.
And I think it's fair to say, even if he
doesn't win this game, like their team, that's not going away,
you would chalk the Patriots up to be really good
moving forward. So, Mike Vrabel, you get to the super Bowl.
I mean, he once told the busting guys he'd cut
off his cut off his dick to win a super Bowl.

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Now he's walked that back a little bit, but he'd
probably cut off a pinky tel, that's for sure. And
he wins the Super Bowl, I think a lot of
people around football would be like, the Patriots just won
a Super Bowl? What are we doing? And this to
me leads to Drake May, like, you win this game
and you're just in the Super Bowl? Is Drake May

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just one of the elites? Is Drake May just one
of the Let me see a top five quarterback in
the NFL? Is he a guy that's gonna be a
top five quarterback moving forward? Because if that's the case,
we know Vrabel's a good coach. If they have a
top five to six quarterback, are they going to be
I don't want to say dynasty, but there are they
just going to be a powerhouse And New England fans

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be Yep, we're back. Bill's fans would be like, God,
we better get this coach right, So you know, Drake May,
all of a sudden, you win this game. How many
quarterbacks in the history of the league year two been
to a super Bowl? This is pretty short and obviously
it changes the course of your career when that happens.
And if you were to win one, like Dan Marino

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got to one, I think it was in year two
in nineteen eighty four. Now they lost to the forty
nine ers, but it clearly took him to superstart him
and he never looked back, not from a winning standpoint,
but of the way he was talked about. And obviously
he deserved it because he's one of the best players
in the league. Russell Wilson right gets the league, wins
the job, and then within a couple of years of

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Super Bowl champion and became one of the superstars of
the NFL for a decade plus. So you win one early.
It also, you know Rogers had this. Rogers hasn't been
back to the super Bowl since February of twenty eleven.
But once you check that box, like no one can
put the pressure, he can't win the big one. You

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check that one off next to your name, like everyone
kind of leaves you alone. So Drake May wins this
think of all the guys that he's compared to. It's
not even just his draft class. Caleb and and Jayden Daniels,
which Jaden is a rookie, had playoff success. Caleb this
year had playoff success. You win the super Bowl. Hell,
you get to the super Bowl. That's that's mean. Josh Allen,

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I mean we're talking. He's gonna be in year nine.
Still hasn't got there. So it's very difficult to do.
Even if you tell me whether their path kind of broke, Yeah,
you can give me all the you know, lines and
angles you want. It's result oriented business. And if he's
taking the first snap in Santa Clara here in a
couple of weeks, like, no one's really gonna be able
to say shit, I do. I do. Think to the

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Sean Payton thing with Jared Stidham. I think Sean would
get the most credit right because of his game plan,
because of his leadership. Maybe they run some trick plays,
maybe they run a fake field goal or fake punt,
or just do something like he's been liable to do
something like that over the course of his career. But
like Jared Stidham would be a guy that would kind
of be remembered for a long time. It's like, remember

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when Jared Stidham just came out of nowhere because bow
Knicks broke his ankle and won the AFC Championship game.
He would just be one of those people considered in
this weird bucket right now. If you were to win
the championship, he would kind of elevate himself into this
rare air of I don't even know how you what
you'd comp them to. You wouldn't comprom to Trent Dill

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for Brad Johnson because those guys played the entire year.
Maybe you would there would be some similarities to Nick
Foles because you're like, well, they're definitely gonna go back
to bow Knicks. Now. Could Jared Stidham who is I
think he signed a one year contract this year? Could
he Could he be a free agent? Like, would people

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sign him if he has big moments? Could he get
more money on the open market? Would people sign him
to be like a bridge quarterback? But all that stuff
is secondary to you kind of could just gain legendary status.
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think it's safe to say no one would have saw
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fascinate me about the NFC Championship game, Let's start on
the lower rim. Mike McDonald. If he was an offensive coach,
we would be speaking about him like McVeigh on steroids.
We really would. But he's a defensive guy. And the
other part about Mike he's not that he's pretty understated.

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He doesn't come off as cocky. He doesn't part of
Ben Johnson kind of ruffles some feathers, talk some shit.
He always looks angry. He's always just fucking on edge.
I mean, he just looks like he hasn't slept much,
doesn't eat much besides some protein and some peptide shots,
maybe pops like sixty millis of adderall. He just looks

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like he's Mike McDonald just seems like a buttoned up,
well put together guy who really likes football, just a
good football coach. Honestly, I know nothing about him as
a human being. Seems like he's just a high character,
normal guy. Could be wrong. I mean, you gotta be
careful about just judging people. But I just feel Mike
McDonald in this weird way for being this great coach,
feels as normal of like Mike Sean Payton is nuts,

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Mike Rabel is batshit crazy, Same thing with Sean McVay.
Like I feel like they don't even know that much
about Mike Donald. Does he go to bed early? Like
what's his coaching style? I saw his pregame or his
speech to the team a couple of years ago when
he got hired, felt pretty normal. U The Seattle did
a pretty good job of cutting it up with some music,
but doesn't even feel like he's a yeller and a screamer.

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He clearly is really smart and there is somewhat of
a comeback for these defensive coaches, and he's leading the
charge because Rabel is truly like obviously he knows football right.
He's a very very intelligent football guy. In terms of schematics.
No one talks about Mike like, I don't really know
how much scheming though he knows clearly. Mike McDonald's notice

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is like a genius, like a defensive wizard, which pretty rare.
A lot of those guys, you know, beside Belichick, most
of the guys having this success were either the CEO types,
like true ceo types not dealing with either side of
the ball, or the offensive guys. And now you're just
having this true defensive guru who's also a head coach

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lead the Seattle Seahawks to the Super Bowl. And if
you think about it, John Schneider would get a ton
of credit because he hired him. He would also accomplish
the Howie Roseman to make it to multiple Super Bowls
with two different coaches and two different quarterbacks. Think how impressive.

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That is like, if the Rams win less, sneed will
go to his third Super Bowl since whatever year that is,
twenty seventeen, but it's been with the same coach. They've
had two different quarterbacks, but it's been with the same coach.
I was looking like, how many gms have made it
to multiple Super Bowls with different coaches and quarterbacks. Bill
Pollion was the GM of the Bills in the nineties

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when they were going to a bunch of Super Bowls,
and then he was the GM of the Indianapolis Colts
with Peyton Manning. So he's one guy that would check
that box. But even he couldn't say, how we can
I've won the Super Bowl with Doug Peterson, Nick Foles,
Nick Sirianni, Jalen Hurts, and John Schneider would be able
to say Pete Carroll, Russell Wilson, Mike McDonald, Sam Darnold.

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That would be an incredible accomplishment and he would be
I already think he is, but he would be a
one hundred percent lock Hall of Fame general manager and
would go down as one of, if not the best
general manager of his generation. So you know he's not
going anywhere. It's not even like he's an old guy,
this combination of Mike and John Schneider and now Sam Donold,

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who's kind of in a weird way, like they're Jimmy Garoppolo.
You know, he's a better version, but like that's kind
of the role that they just need him to play.
They're they're not asking for him to play like Josh
Allen or Patrick mahomes Lamar Jackson. I don't need you
to carry us. I need you to play under control
and do the opposite of what CJ. Stroud did. And
if he's able to do that, I think there's a

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pretty good chance they win the super Bowl, which would
be insane. They were a five to one. Their odds
were plus five hundred to win their own division start
the year, which I thought were crazy. I mean, they
just won ten games the year before, but the forty
nine ers in the RAMS were basically both I mean
close to one to one to win the division and Seattle, Like,

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I think it's crazy. It's weird to say it now
because we watched him play how well they've operated, but
like most people did not view this team as a
super Bowl contender when the year started, and that sounds crazy.
Now and then on the RAMS, I think you have
to ask yourself, if Matt Stafford wins these next two games,

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one he would he'd be a Law Hall of Famer
at that point, two super Bowls, he would have one
of the crazier careers of all time, because most people,
probably a little unfairly, don't take his Lions career that
seriously because he did a bunch of losing even though
he was with an absolute clown organization like what are
the worst organizations in all of professional sports, which again

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to someone young, sounds a little crazier. Now it's like, well,
this Dan Campbell's success version that they've had where they
just went nine to eight and it feels like a disaster.
Nine and eight ten years ago with the Lions would
have been a massive, massive win, even though they only
played sixteen games, so the number would have been eight
to eight. But you know what I mean, And I
just think Matt Stafford got to a real team with

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a real coach and a real structure and started to
kick ass and take names. He's probably gonna win the MVP,
and if he won the Super Bowl, have two rings
in like less than five years. I think you would
ask yourself, Like, would he retire? I googled today he's
made over four hundred million dollars in his career. That's

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only by teams. He's been pretty marketable since he's been
with the Rams, so he's made a ton off the
field as well. Like he has made a boatload of
money at this age in his late thirties. He's on
a one year contract. Like what else would he have
to prove? This would really validate everything, Not that anyone

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questioned when they made the trade. But and Jared Goffs
worked out pretty well for the Lions as well. But
you wouldn't even be able to argue who won that
bad boy. Now you could make the argument that the
moment the Rams won the Super Bowl, they one locked
it up. But like the Lions have been a consistent
playoff team. Last year they were the one seed. The
previous year they were in the NFC Championship Game. But

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you win two Super Bowls. I have to wonder if
Matt Stafford would seriously contemplate retiring. He's had back issues.
I mean, he's just taking a lot of hits in
his career. He's obviously got a young family. He just
watched his boy, Clayton Kershaw kind of go out on top.
You have to wonder if that would factor in, which
then would be obviously something we would talk about this offseasons,

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like well, who would be Would the Rams do a
quarterback that is a problem they would gladly try to
in a couple weeks if they win the Super Bowl.
If you, Sean McVeigh right now, would gladly sign up
two more wins Stafford retires, then Stafford returns and you
lose this week and last. But about Lee, Sean McVay,

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he would join pretty rare company of guys with multiple
super Bowl rings. I look today, he turns forty in
a couple days. If he just makes the Super Bowl,
he will have made three super Bowls at forty years old.
Think how crazy that would be? Three super Bowls. I
mean technically, as I'm recording this, he's thirty nine years old.

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Just having the opportunity to get back at thirty nine
years old, to have this much success. I think early
on people push back, like everyone's blowing McVeigh talking about
John Harbaugh, who just got five years, one hundred million dollars,
won a Super Bowl almost fifteen years ago, has not

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been back to one, right. We just saw him in
the AFC Championship Game a couple of years at home
lose with the MVP at quarterback. So and we all agree,
like John Harbaugh is a really good coach. That's a
great hire for the Giants. Sean McVay is gonna go
to three before John Harbaugh is sixty three years old.
I mean, think of he would be in a little

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bit of a situation and these TV networks, Amazon would
kick herbit Street to the heart of the sidewalk in
a heartbeat to get Sean McVay. Sean McVay would get
to the point where he'd have so much money, so
much success, Like what's he doing this all for? He's
just gonna try to win like four now. And if
Stafford retired, could McVeigh just be like, I'm gonna take

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a couple of years off. Maybe I'll even come back
to the Rams, but I need to take a breather,
you know. And I think Sean McVay could join a list.
You know, clearly, Andy, these last couple of years, multiple
time Super Bowl winner Belichick's the most famous has the
six You know, when I was a kid in the nineties,
everyone talked about Bill Walsh and Bill Parcells parcels one two,
Walsh one three. Seaford technically won two more even though

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most people like give Bill Walsh Moore the credit. Like
people talk about Bill Walsh like he won the four.
But Seaford, you know, he retired in eighty eight, which
I think he regretted obviously. Mike Shanahan became, you know,
a legendary figure in the Lway career when they went
back to back. We've had a lot of really good coaches,
I mean legends, Harbaugh, Tomlin, like guys that won Super

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Bowl changes the course of your life, changes the course
of the way. We discussed you right, Look, Bruce Arians
won the won the Corona Super Bowl, and we speak
about Brady and Bruce Arians and Tampa Bay winning that
Super Bowl. So Sean McVay would have two. It would
be And listen, sucky and I discussed this. Whoever wins

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this game, depending on who their opponent is, is a
big favorite in the Super Bowl. And if Jared Stidham
is able to put this off, they would be a
massive favorite in the Super Bowl. So like Sean McVay,
whoever can get through this, But specifically McVeigh. People are
gonna be picking him to win his second and unlike Stafford,
like Stafford's career is really in two parts. It's like

(28:17):
the Lion's part where he was making a ton of money.
Guys like Rogers were trying and like pro scouts like
I'm telling you, this guy's really good, and all fans
were like, wait, he loses all the time. He throws
a bunch of interceptions. Rogers like, I'm telling you, he's
ever been as good as me. He just plays for
the shitty team. Never forget Aaron Rodgers was the one
guy who was always pounding the table for Matt Stafford

(28:37):
throughout the twenty tens, and then McVeigh and Shanahan fought
over trading for him, and McVeigh got him and clearly
changed the course of his life. Now, could McVeigh have
pulled one off with Goff, Maybe, but at the time
of their relationship it was so fractured that they had
to go the other way no matter what. But I
think that we've just never seen anything quite like this

(29:00):
young for pat Riley winning with the Lakers. But pretty sure,
you know, I don't think pat Riley was this young
you know, had won those NBA championships before he was forty,
so you do something like that at this age. There's
a reason when you see these interviews like who are
they interviewing? How old is this guy? People want the
next this And here's the reality. There's usually one Bezos,

(29:23):
there's usually one Elon, there's usually one Tiger. There's like
one Sean McVay. They're not growing on trees, they don't.
He's a pretty unique individual and there'd be no disputing
it if he not just wins this game on the
road in Seattle would be one of the biggest wins
of his career. But then at that game at Levi's,

(29:44):
being able to win his second Super Bowl at the
home of his former mentor how Shanahan, who obviously arrival,
would be a pretty big moment for the guys. I mean, honestly,
Seattle or the Rams winning that game at Levi's would
sting a little bit to Kyle Well, but yeah, he'd
have two, kylet have none, So it'd be hard to discuss,

(30:04):
Like when we're discussing the top young offensive coaches that
there would be Sean mcnerny or Sean McVay. Would kind
of be on a level by himself. I mean, shit,
he'd be one behind Andy Reid think about that. So
it's gonna be fascinating to watch. I'm I'm really excited
because we only got sixty one. We only got one

(30:24):
hundred and eighty minutes left of football. One hundred and
eighty minutes left the football and they say anywhere between
like eleven to twelve minutes of actual game time, So
you're talking under forty minutes left of actual action on
the field. So we got to enjoy it before we
dive into sucky. Though. I do want to hit on
a couple of fugazi's and I was adamant when we

(30:46):
were building the the baby's room and loading it with clothes.
I just thought we were on drugs. I said, in
what world can a baby who's still in your belly
have this many clothes? Honestly, you could have made the
argument if we went clothes for clothes, like piece of
individual clothing, he might have had more than me. And

(31:09):
I don't even obviously wear that many clothes. I have
the majority of my wardrobe never gets put on, especially
like sports coats and hell, I don't even wear jeans
that often. But I was wrong because anyone listening to
this with the newborn baby or have gone through that stage,
they go through ten to twelve pieces of clothing. I

(31:32):
mean they are pissing and shitting all over themselves at
every hour, starting in the morning, through the afternoon, through
dinnertime through the night. You are constantly just taking clothes,
throwing it on the ground, grabbing a new piece of
fresh clothing with a diaper, and redressing your baby. And

(31:53):
there is shit and piss everywhere, and what's weird. My
wife used to always make fun of me because I
would never hold other people's babies. In full disclosure, I
was always a little nervous one. I didn't want the
pressure if I dropped the or whatever, and then you
start holding your own baby. I actually took the the mindset.
It's like golfers deal. I'm not gonna play Augusta until

(32:15):
I make the Masters. Now I would gladly. I'd play
Augusta if anyone listening this as a member there and
wants to take me in the h when it's open,
I am more than game. But it just kind of happened.
The first baby I truly held, not that I didn't
hold little kids. I have nephews, and my cousins have kids,
and my friends have kids, but like truly just constantly

(32:36):
holding a baby, and you just realize, like how am
I gonna do this? The diapers, the changing, the wiping,
it becomes second nature. You start being like a pit
crew on f one or Nascar like bo. But it's
just the constant clothing. So I was wrong. The amount
of clothes that feel, especially to a guy, a little outrageous,

(32:58):
is probably not because you are going to fire through
the inventory and that little kid is going to dominate
and I repeat dominate the washer and dryer. You're kind
of whatever your rotation was to wash your gym clothes,
your normal clothes. Get in line, buddy, because you're gonna

(33:21):
have no shot. You were gonna be waiting in line,
and then whenever you think it's your turn, he's gonna
have more stuff going there or she. So I was
wrong about that. You need a lot of clothes, you
really do. And you go through diapers. No clue how
much a bag of diapers costs, but you go through
a lot. They are just getting worked. I mean dominated

(33:44):
that kid can blow out a diaper like any kid
just on repeat, which is good. You find out from
the doctor. You know, you gotta get those bowel movements
you get. You gotta get that, you know, the the
bad stuff working in and out, and he is. So
it's a good problem to have. And the other thing
is I am a big believer, and I tell people this, like,
I'm not one of those guys who can work fresh

(34:07):
on three or four hours of sleep. Like I do
need sleep. And there are some people that you know
don't need much sleep and can operate a high level.
We all know him, right, Some people can wake up
at the crack of dawn. I remember a buddy of
mine who worked on Gruden staff. I was like, what
time does he actually get to the office. So I
it's true, he's there, you know, before five am. They're like,

(34:27):
but his secret is he ain't burning the midnight oil.
He's out of there an hour after dinner, which makes sense.
You can't start work at three forty five and be
kicking ass at nine o'clock at night. You start, you
start dipping. He's like, he's out of there, right. So
some people we all work different schedules, but there are
times when we just don't have a choice, right, and

(34:52):
I've been someone who's been a pretty consistent sleep routine.
As I've gotten old, especially in my thirties, is life.
You get a little more serious about life. You're not
screwing around during the week, You're not just up randomly
for no reason. You got you know, your career starts
being at a different level. You gotta focus up. I'm
in bed between nine thirty and ten and usually out

(35:13):
between ten and ten thirty and up, depending on what
time I go to bed, sometime between five forty five
to six thirty range, despite sometimes during the season when
we're working late, me sleeping a little bit longer. But
my routine's been bang bang bang bang. I'm a routine guy.
I thrive in routine. I hate the unknown, the outer routine. Well,

(35:35):
when we went to meet this pediatrician, he's like, one
piece of advice I will give you is you kind
of gotta let go. You have to embrace whatever your
routine is. You're gonna have to work around it because
the baby has no routine. And the one thing you
realize is, like, my sleep's all over the place. Last night,
I was reading that Laker article at two thirty in

(35:56):
the morning in bed wide awake and and get up
at eight o'clock and you're fine because you don't have
a choice. You have to be And watching my wife
get up at four am to feed them and then
not really go back to bed and back out of
bed at seven, it's like you just kind of power through.
And a lot of people have said, like, listen, this
too shall pass, and you'll get through it, and you'll
smile about this. And the first couple of days, I

(36:19):
was pissed off and like, this fucking sucks. I need
some sleep. My head's not there, And you kind of
realize part of any situation is where you put yourself mentally,
like you just gotta embrace it. Just embrace it. Obviously,
there are times when you get frustrated when you just
change a diaper and you're ready to set them down.
It's midnight and you think, hey, we're gonna go to bed.
Then all of a sudden, you hear just a massive

(36:42):
fart that's wet, and you're like, oh my god, it's
all over the clothes. You gotta rechange it, and when
you wipe me start screaming. I've just kind of embraced it,
And the last couple of days have been much better
because you're not gonna sleep that much. But guess what
a lot of people in a situation when they're not
sleeping that much, if you're bitter about it and angry,

(37:03):
it's gonna suck. And uh again, I'm five days in
or six days in what was the other's last If
you told me this last another six months, you're gonna
you're gonna mentally break. And sometimes you gotta give yourself
little patience, little grace. You're allowed to be angry, but
like you also gotta be careful because you can't just
be pissed off when you're changing the diaper, because the
kid feels you're you're kind of energy. So it's it's

(37:25):
really just trying to embrace team no sleep, put a
smile on your face, and uh, just be a helping hand.
So my fugazi was realizing that I was actually wrong
about the fugazi because however many clothes that you think
are extra, you probably need more. Let's dive in a
stucky Okay, we're coming down the home stretch here. It

(37:59):
is uh or sweet to stay the least and pretty
sad to be honest with you when you just look
up and you realize you only have three football games left.
I was already kind of watching like the Dubai Desert
Classic this morning, just trying to like realizing there's not
going to be much to watch moving forward. I already
miss thinking about no Monday night football. You can hate

(38:20):
on Thursday Night football, but when it's gone, you just
start clicking the channels and you're like, what am I
supposed to do? I actually watched a decent college basketball
stucky last time. I mean Arizona cheez. I mean, they
look like an NBA team right now, just dominating people.
Lebron's kid can't even get on the floor because they're
so good. But we got a couple of games. We're

(38:41):
both fathers, we're not sleeping much, and we just power
through three to go.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, It's it's kind of sad goes by so quick
every year. I just hope we'll talk about this game.
I actually did bet some early Denver five and a
half nines come down a little bit. I am hoping
number one for my bet to win, but number two,

(39:12):
I'm hoping for the Patriots to win by three because
I just, first of all selfishly and for you too.
We're gonna we talk about the Super Bowl for two weeks.
One game, and if it has to be like Jared
Stidham versus the Rams or Seahawks, it's way less intriguing.

(39:39):
And I think the look adlines just from a competitive standpoint,
way less of a chance that we get a competitive game.
I think the look adlines are like the I think
I saw the Rams where the Seahawks are like eight
and a half minus eight and a half against the
Broncos three and a half versus the Patriot. So yeah,

(40:04):
I hope that the Patriots win a very close game
is my desire there. But the Ramseyhawks Part three should
be a doozy. I mean those teams like twice this
year separated by one yard in one point.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Well, let's rewind to last week, and I think if
you go into that locker room and all those guys
crying because let's face it, of New England Denver, clearly
Houston had no shot the way CJ was playing. But Buffalo,
Buffalo would have been the one team that probably a
lot of people would have picked right if they would
have got to this game and got to the Super Bowl.

(40:46):
Sean McDermott gets fired the situation in that game with
you know some of the calls. Obviously, Josh's play was
all over the map, kind of a little end of
a little era, and they're kind of hoping to do
the Tony dungee to Gruden. I mean, we've seen this
handoff before, but we've also seen it gone the other way.

(41:06):
So I mean this is and the Ravens are in
a similar situation. Though, you know, you watch the two
press conferences. Steve Bushotty just got up and talked like
he can handle himself right, whether you agree or disagree
with what he's saying, he ain't afraid to let the
bullets start flying at him. The I mean, Terry Pegoula,
I don't follow hockey, but it turns out that the

(41:28):
Buffalo Sabers, besides the Jets, have the longest running playoff drought.
I know the man got rich off oil, but you know,
in that business, especially back in the day, it took balls,
you know, more than I think, being like Elon developing
some of these companies, and Poogola's got balls, created his
own company, made a bunch of money. But you watch

(41:49):
them in front of a microphone. You went, this organization's
picking Josh Rosen instead of Josh Allen. Away from being
the Jets, I mean that they are. I mean this
notion that they're like the the Ravens with ownership. I
don't know. I mean I watched that. It's like kind
of felt for Josh. Is this guy? What was your
take on that situation?

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, I mean, first I will say, I mean Alan
deserves some criticism for that game. He you know, turn
was sloppy, didn't play his best game. But if you
look at Alan's body of work in the playoffs, he's

(42:31):
been one of the best playoff quarterbacks of all time.
If you just look statistically and including this game, almost
every single one of his playoff losses, it's the defense
that let let him down. And I mean, if you
just go back and look at the Bill's playoff losses
under Allen, they're consistently scoring in the thirties and they're

(42:56):
losing these games because of their defense. Additionally, coaching and
like decisions McDermott. You can go back to that thirteen
seconds and how they handled that with the kickoff, the
Kelsey up the up the seam, and then this game
at the end of the half. I don't know what
they were trying to do with Alan, like no timeouts.

(43:19):
There was just no upside there, Like the time was
going to run out and he fumbles, Denver gets a
fuel goal. That's the death. How the game could play
out differently, but that ended up being ultimately difference in
the game, a game that went to overtime. That those
three points, it's massive. So I do think that there
had just after all of these postseason failures, there had

(43:40):
to be a scapegoat. I think McDermott he he has
his fass as a head coach, but I think he'd
be an outstanding defensive coordinator so he can still scheme
up defense and different looks. But being I think is
getting off like Scott Free here. It's not like this
roster has been built optimally, so there's there's been flaws

(44:04):
on how they've built it, the help that they've given Alan,
So I'm curious to see where it goes. But there
had to be a fall guy. It's there is just
and the disappointment. I'm like the disappointment that must be
felt by the Bills, and that's you could see it
right after with Allen's tears and the comments from Dawkins

(44:26):
and company. You know, Bosa throwing his helmet and look,
the Patriots is just a tough life to your Patriots fan.
Think about them, like, they were the most successful team
in the NFL for two decades, winning all these Super Bowls.
They have to rebuild, and then they're rebuilding and then

(44:48):
the dumps while the AFC is just dominated by Mahomes.
And then also you have Lamar and Alan the first
time they're back relevant with the easiest scheduled NFL history,
get the NFC Championship Game and only have to go
through Jared Stidham.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
So can you can you imagine being a Bills fan
if the Patriots do take care of business and they're
just back in the Super Bowl. I mean, that would
be tough. I had a diehard Bills fan text me
if the Patriots were to win the Super Bowl would
truly cripple me, And I was like, I get it
because it would be like, how is this fair? Because
I just think I would imagine Buffalo had to view

(45:28):
Jacksonville once they won that game. I mean, they might
have thought Jacksonville is the best team in the dance yeah,
you know, and then they beat them and they go
it's on we can go beat bo Knicks and then
take our chances, especially if we get New England, right,
I mean, we're comfortable playing them, and now we're at home,
we don't have a coach or our franchise feels and shambles.

(45:48):
It's a crazy turn of events and that's I think
the cool part about the playoffs is what's on the line,
and from good and bad, right, I mean, it's CJ. Stroud.
It's hard to even think about him the same, right,
And I think it's fair. It'saw Orlovsky apologize to day
for saying thirty one other quarterbacks would have won that.

(46:09):
It's like, what what are we doing apologizing for? That's
legitimately one of the worst habs of football you will
ever see an NFL history, the majority of our lives eighties,
ninety two thousands, he would get benched if he would
have been five x the player that he already won.
I mean, that's just this is football. People get benched
other positions. You don't even hesitate, right the quarterback and

(46:32):
he's not good enough to be treated like that. And
there's no disputing he lost them in the game because
their defense he would throw a pick and their defense
would come on and Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter would
look like the two best pass rushers you've ever seen.
It's like, these guys got to be like, what is
going on? Guys just go three and out to stop
handing them the football. It's Houston's defense truly was incredible.

(46:55):
And I'm pretty sure Daneil Hunter's out free agent, so
who knows. I mean, I mean some people lined up
to get his surfaces. He's no guaranteed to come back.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
And who knows what happens with Stroud now? But yeah,
I mean with the way that he was playing, you
had to try something. I mean, there it was, you
could tell it was over and then he had no
confidence and they and it's a shame because the tech
like the Texans have to look at this as a
lost opportunity because the state of the AFC, right, like,

(47:24):
and who's who's left? And now you see what happened
with Denver and yeah, the Texans had a two thousand type,
two thousand Ravens type of defense, right and then if
you look at this. The other thing is if you
look at the AFC quarterbacks, the quarterbacks that have won

(47:44):
the AFC Championship since two thousand, it is basically Peyton, Manning, Ben, Roethlisberger,
Mahomes and Brady and the Flacco and Burrow in there.
And then back in two thousand you had Dilfer and
obviously it was a different, different error, but diffult Dilford

(48:06):
just don't make mistakes. That's like what the Ravens asked
him to do with their defense. And if Shroud just
didn't make mistakes and manage the game, they could have
easily won the AFC. So they have to feel it
was a lost opportunity and where do they go from here?

(48:29):
What happens with Stroud? Like it feels like that rookie
year was a very long time ago from the last
time we saw Stroud consistently playing at a high level.
So yeah, there's there's a lot of and the AFC
was just down overall this year for a lot of teams.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
And this is.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Across the board in the NFL, there's a lot of
like look in the mirror moments and all right, where
we need to change, I mean think about it could
be even across the NFL. The only division without a
coaching change is the NFC North. Ah, that's it. There's
so and they have. There's some coordinator changes, but from

(49:14):
a head coaching perspective, that's it. There's a lot of changes,
and like the Texans are out of an inflection point.
The Bills, I just think after so many playoff disappointments,
you couldn't just run it back with the same staff
and same cast of characters. You needed, Like, I feel
like they would come out so hungover next year and

(49:34):
like just deflated, and so they needed some new juice,
something to inject change. But yeah, the Bills, Texans, Ravens
off seasons are going to be super interesting. The Steelers also,
right like they finally said had enough. So there's a

(49:56):
lot of these teams that are like, all right, let's
it's like the it kind of reached the point where
like this was the year, right, you could chalk up
a lot of what I think happens a lot of teams,
and part of this is fair. A lot of teams
that were contenders for six to seven years in the
AFC just said, well it was Mahomes, Like we were

(50:17):
never going to beat Mahomes and the Chiefs right like that,
it was just we there's nothing we could do. The
Chiefs were inevitable but in a year where the Chiefs
don't make the playoffs, right, the Ravens don't make the playoffs,
and it's wide open and when you don't get there,
I think it's forcing a lot of these teams to
actually make some changes this season, which is going to

(50:40):
make next year very very interesting.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Even Jim Harbaugh, you know, from a look standpoint, like
Jim Harbaugh hired Mike McDaniel, though they have way more
in common. Mike his run scheme. I mean, he basically
mentored under Forrester, who Shanahan's guy for ever going back
to Washington. He's big on his wide receivers blocking. I

(51:06):
know that the little guys in Miami, but that's a
staple of kind of how he's been taught philosophically. They
actually have a lot in common. And I give Mike
some credit, like he clearly could have picked several jobs,
I'm sure, and he went with the job. He got
two offensive linemen coming back. You would get a ton
of credit if you take Herbert to the next level.

(51:28):
And it also kind of shows like there's no disputing
that the Eagles would have given him a ton of
money to be their coordinator. And this Eagles. Gig is risky, right,
You either are gonna be a star and to get
a head coach or you're gonna get fired. Like there's
not really much middle ground. Wh It's like, oh, you
just become one of the solid offensive coordinators in the league.
So I you know, clearly he went.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
With a situation. Yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
AJ's gonna be gone. So it's just it's kind of
interesting to how it all played out because to me, Mike,
you know, you see some I think petsing In was
a Detroit Washington just elevated blow. I think McDaniel was
clearly the most intriguing cordinate guy that was one hundred
second to be a coordinator. I'm not gonna get a

(52:13):
head coach like Stefanski was gonna get a head coaching job.
I kind of thought McDaniel might go with Robert, but
I thought the Tennessee Titans job. But honestly, it kind
of shocked me. It just shows you how obsessed he
is with being a head coach. I think that job
is much closer to Arizona than it is like Baltimore, Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah, I McDaniel, Well, I think one thing we know
is McDaniel clearly values nice weather, so that I might
have played a far true, but he Yeah, I mean
I wanted my ideal, this a pipe dream. Is a
Ravens fan in the offseason, is I wouldn't I wanted,

(52:56):
Like if I if I could just craft whatever staff
I wanted, I would want.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
I want to mentor.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Head coach Flores DC McDaniel otse obviously very unrealistic. Yeah, McDaniel,
I think will be an excellent offensive coordinator. And the
Chargers have they just they're they're continuing to build the
roster to fit har Ball. And this year they were

(53:23):
never gonna win the Super Bowl. I mean, I guess
they could have, but the DFC is wide open. But
after those offensive line injuries, you just weren't gonna go
win three or four games in the playoffs without your
star tackle. So you get your offensive line, like they
need to still address the interior, but you get your
tackles back, like that's just massive, Like you get that's

(53:44):
basically like you get like two tackles back, you know,
Pro Bowl caliber tackles back. The question then, so I
think the Charger is in a really really good spot
next year. The question just becomes is it's is there
something with Herbert on the big stage now? The sample

(54:04):
size is so small, but he looked horrendous in his
last playoff game, and then this year looked really poor.
That's like the question they have to answer. We tend
to overreact to these things over small sample sizes.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
We say this about coaches in college right. A lot
of in college basketball used to always say this about
certain coaches. They can't win the big they can't win
the national title. They choke in March. But it's like
the NFL's one and done. It's hard to win. And
then once you do win, people say this by like
Jay Wright Villanova.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Look at I mean, Mario had a pretty big year
down the stretch right to kind of shut some people up.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Yeap Brian Day. They said that about him until last year.
So I think Herbert will be fine. I think it
was a great hire. You get the tackles, you address
the interier offensive line. You just infuse a little bit
more talent to that roster and they're going to be
extremely dangerous. Like as if I had pick someone right

(55:02):
now to win the AFC next year, Like if you
made me pick, I probably picked the Chargers as of
right now without doing a lot of offseason work. So
I thought that was an outstanding higher. But there's gonna
be a lot. There's just a lot of change in
the AFC across the board, so it's gonna be this
is that it's definitely a transition off season for so

(55:23):
many teams.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Totally. Let's just dive right in. Uh. I didn't know
this till I heard someone mention this. I saw the

(55:45):
Senior Bowl director had to change a bunch of flights
for players, which I'm pretty sure the Senior Bowls next week.
And it has to do with this crazy cold front
that you just told me before we hopped on that
is coming right through up through the South, up through
where you live in Kentucky and maybe far enough in
Denver because I checked the weather this morning, I mean

(56:07):
last week in Denver. My cousin was there. I mean
on TV it looked beautiful, right, I mean we've had
Denver playoff games that look frigid and freezing. I think
it was, you know, low forties, but the sun was out.
The high is supposed to be like twenty degrees with
the low of like in the low single digits, so
that this cold front that's coming, Like to me, that

(56:29):
has an impact. I mean playing in the cold. You
watch these games throughout the playoffs and even late in
the regular season. I mean, it's just a different sport,
it really is. I mean that day with Jacksonville, they
open up the scene in Jacksonville and the kids are
in the pool, and then they go later that day
to like the Midwest. It's just like, you know, Chiefs

(56:49):
have had games that are in the negatives. I was
telling my wife, I'm like, there was this playoff game
because Minnesota was getting a new stadium, they played outside
and players the next week reported they had frostbite on
their fingers. That was like ten years ago. That wasn't
like in the sixties. So it just these playoff games
get fucking cold. It's harder to catch, it's harder to
hold the ball. I mean, look at CJ. Stroud. I

(57:10):
think it's fair to red flag him not a cold
weather quarterback. I mean that's he's got the who's his
cop Jared Goff kind of. That's the way he plays
a touch He's a touch paster. I'm not overthinking this one.
I just think it's it's absolutely impossible to not play
a snap all season long and be the true backup
quarterback where you are servicing the defense in practice, because

(57:33):
this is not you know most people. High school football
could be a little different once you get to college,
and definitely the NFL. The starter takes all the reps
and it's been like that forever, and the backup does
not take reps running the offensive game plan. And Sean
Payton made a comment I think I don't know who
it was too, but like he'd get mad advance Joseph

(57:53):
because he'd be lighting them up. And that's what I remember.
Kyle said that about Perry or Fred Warner, like he
used to light us up. Well, he's running the other
teams plays, so you know the guy might have talent
or whatever and be a good player, but he's not
focusing on, like, hey, our third down packages. I mean,
he is in the meeting room, but not to play
to come back in an AFC championship game in the

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middle of January when you haven't taken reps, like real
game reps since August, which was preseason, that feels like
insurmountable to me. I mean, I just I just have
to short that, and I know I'm sure you and
a lot of people are like, hey, the number, this
is still kind of crazy, and clearly Denver's not bad,
but I kind of is Denver's defense as good as

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we kind of thought it was. I mean, definitely not
as good as last year. And this is a huge
moment for Sean Payton. I mean, this would be a
legendary win for a coach. Legendary like this would be,
beside the Super Bowl, his most impressive win of his career.
I mean, he's now an underdog at home. I just
I'm taking New England in the points. Don't feel great

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about it, but it's just the logic of the backup quarterback.
I have to bet against it in this situation. It'd
be one thing like Folds and some of these guys
when they got to play. If you had told me that, like, hey,
Bo Nicks did this a couple of weeks before Christmas.
He's won some games, he showed promise, he's gotten to
a little rhythm. He's not as good, but I'd beg okay,
yeah I would factor, but it's like this guy hasn't

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played at all.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
This Yeah, very very very difficult game to handicap. A
lot of uncertainty, like there's there's a much higher chance
in this game than many other I mean, this is
the largest home dog in a conference championship game since
the merger. For what it's where the past fifty years,
the home dogs in the NFL playoffs with four or
more points doesn't happen often nine to zero against the spread,

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never every single one is covered. It's all with the
Panthers earlier this year. So I played the Broncos. I'll
give you my case and a lot of my thoughts
on the game. But I mean, it's really going to
come to no one really knows what this is going
to look like. But you know, I would have made
the Broncos like a two point favorite. I mean, they

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closed a one and a half point favorite against the
Bills in one. The Bills are rated a little higher
in my opinion than the Patriots. I would have made
this like two to two and a half. So at
five and a half, that's assuming you know Nix is
worth like a touchdown. That's aggressive that the quarterbacks that
are worth a touchdown to their backup are the elite

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quarterbacks in the league, and I don't think Nix is
that Nix has had a great season, has done a
lot of things late in games, but he's you know where,
he's operating under an elite play caller with an elite
offensive line, and his numbers are far from a lad.
I think he's like a league average quarterback and stead

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of at least has been in the system for a
couple of years. He was the first guy that Peyton
signed when he got to Denver, so obviously he saw
something that he liked. And Stidham has four starts two
and twenty twenty two, two and twenty twenty three. If
you filter, they're out all quarterbacks over that span with
at least one hundred dropbacks, there's eighty two of them.

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He's like twentieth in success rate, thirtieth in EPA. So
and he played by it. And those offenses that he
played with are really bad. The offensive lines were hard.
So some of the things that he has working for
him here a great offensive line, he does have a
little sneaky mobility, and a great play caller, and he's
playing at home. Those those are not insignificant factors, especially

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the offensive line and being able to get protection. The
other things that are working in their favor here is
Obviously the home crowd playing at Denver in January is
not easy. But the noise that New England's gonna have
to deal with with an inexperienced quarterback, and I just
there's the un all the pressure now is on New England,

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right like you have to beat Stidham to get to
the super Bowl or the Denver can play loose here
and then the uncertainty could work in their advantage, work
to their advantage, like the Patriots don't really know what
to expect here. You're probably gonna get the kitchen sink
from Peyton, You're you're gonna get all kinds of new books,
new packages, any trick plays that they've had, you use

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them here. You just this is your You just try
to get to the super Bowl where anything can happen,
so that uncertainty could work in their favor. Additionally, this
Denver defense, I do think they're a tat overrated. They're not.
Some people talk about them in like the same stratosphere
as you know Seattle and Houston. I don't think that
they're there, but they can get a lot of pressure,
especially at home. I mean their top five and pressure

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Ray top five and pressure Ay without blitzing, and this
new England offense is very vulnerable to pressure. Right now,
Will Campbell looks like a traffic cone out there, I
mean alway look like an All Pro. And then obviously
all the Texans dominated him. And may you have to
go back, go back to the regular season. They didn't
face the top ten defense the entire year outside of

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Cleveland and Road Road. Eveland's defense is nothing special. He
finally has faced good defenses and he hasn't looked great,
and he has six fumbles two interceptions in two games.
And you got to play at home that pressure. And
then this is the Patriots seem it has been very
lucky with when it comes to fumbles. This Denver defense,
you know they're going to be up a little ewing

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theory here, like all right, our star players out everyone
else kind of steps up for a game.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
I mean, Benito's got to be licking his chops going
against Will Campbell.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Yeah, that could be problematic. And the biggest difference this Patriots.
The Patriots defense, they've been blitzing a ton lately, like
Flores type levels over their past four games. But they
went up against and you look at their schedule, they
played nothing but backups all your beat up offenses. Even
last week you have Stroud playing like that the right

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the Texans right tackle was out, Nico Collins was out.
They lose Dalton Schultz in the first quarter, but they've
been blitzing a ton. The biggest difference between the Broncos
and the Chargers and the Texans is the Broncos have
an elite offensive line. Those teams have two of the
worst offensive lines in the NFL. So Stidham should.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Have some time here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
I'm curious to see if the Patriots still blits a ton.
I just think this is too much of an adjustment. Now,
to your point, this is the first time in NFL
history a player will start in the championship game or
later without throwing a pass in a live game. So
we've never seen it before. So there is a chance
that it ends in his aster. I don't think anyone

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really knows, but we did see, like maybe we saw
Philip Rivers take five years off and you know they
should have won it at Seattle was the best, you know,
arguably the best defense in the NFL. Maybe he's okay,
and you know, the Rivers knew the system, he had
familiarity with the system like Stidham does. So yeah, but

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no one knows. It also could just be a complete disaster.
So the other thing is the Patriots run defense is
legit when healthy, and they're now healthy. When they're line
are healthy, Milton Williams is back. They had a couple
other guys that were hurt down the stretch and the
run defense kind of created a bit. But when healthy,
you can't really run on them, which that gives me
a little bit of hesitation because a little bit of worry,

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because you want with the backup quarterback, you want to
be able to rely on your run game. I don't
necessarily know if Denver will be able to do that,
but I'm gonna trust Peyton, this offensive line, and the
Denver defense to get enough pressure to keep this close.
I also played the Denver first I played Denver first
quarter plus a half point if so, I think the

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uncertainty works in their favor early on, and you're gonna
have some of that. The Patriots aren't going to know
what to expect. I also could see the Patriots coming
out really conservative here, being like, let's not turn the
ball over early. Let their defense, you know, create turnovers
and get get a lead because there's a chance Thatt
of just as a disaster with Stidham right, so they

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might go pretty conservative feel out with this going to
look like. The Patriots red zone defense is also horrendous,
So if Denver is able to put some things together
and get into the red zone, they might be able
to finish off your eyes with touchdowns. So my opinion
is the adjustment is just too much. But I could
be dead wrong. If anyone tells you, like with certainty

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they know what Sidam is going to look like, they're
lying through their teeth. But I just think that this
should probably be like three and a half, not five
and a half. So I did play Denver. Historically, Payton
one of the best coaches against the spread as an underdog,
especially when catching over a field goal about sixty six
percent against the spread. He has had success with backups
in the past. He has had success against teams that

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like the Blitz, and I'm gonna trust him to have
just put together everything he's got for this game plan
to put Sidham in the best position to put up
enough points on the board. The other thing is there's
more uncertainty because of the Patriots and their schedule, Like,
we still don't know how good this team is because
they didn't they had the easiest schedule in twenty five

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years in the regular season, and then the playoffs, you
play the Chargers on offensive line and Herbert just look
like a disaster. And then you play the Texans, who
you know, Stroud couldn't complete it. I mean you couldn't
do anything. And then but they didn't have their full
they had offensive line injuries, their best receiver was out,
their best fight ends lost in the first quarter. So
like the data points of New England playing a full

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team and we don't. We won't even get one here,
by the way, but like we still don't know exactly.
Like for a team that's in the AFC or NFC Championship,
you usually have a pretty good idea of who they
are and where to rate them. There's still there's a
lot of uncertainty with New England as well. But I'm
going to trust the ome dog here. But I don't
blame you for laying it. There's there's so much uncertainty

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with this game and Stidham could be a disaster. I
wouldn't blame people for betting like alts, Like you know,
New England minus fourteen, minus seventeen, because if it goes
sideways and ten to play like from behind, that's when
I do think that this they will mix. They will
miss next dearly. They got to stay in this early

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and keep it close.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Okay, let's get into the main event. Seattle weather actually
doesn't I look, this morning doesn't look too terrible cold,
and it always obviously could rain, but it's not You're
not talking single digits or anything. Thirties or forties, probably
high forties. To me, there are two plays you're either
take in Seattle to cover or you just take the

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Rams money line. That's the way I would look at it.
And when you look at Seattle, if you remove the
end of that game whatever in the middle of December,
that Thursday night game, they kind of got dominated by
the Rams. I mean their quarterback has six interceptions and
in La I mean he was that was as bad
of a game as he's played the last two years.

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And obviously he played two horrendous games at the end
of last season in Minnesota. I'd argue he was worse
than that Rams game. Of the four picks, like three
of them were like real atrocious, like hitting guys in
stride like CJ. Stroud level picks the other day and
then he flipped in the obviously had a great drive
to win the game. But you know that Shaheed who

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has been huge for him, So it's not be like,
well they got a random, you know, punt return. Well
he just had a kickoffort like the guy's electric player.
I mean it can happen. He's He's clearly an X
factor against a team whose special teams are I'm watching Signetti.
I'm like, if I'm Sean McVeigh, i call his special
teams coordinator, like, hey, would you be interested in coming
to the NFL? You you want to come work for

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the Rams. We're pretty good and we'll pay you a
lot of money. Like I would be all over that guy.
I wouldn't even outthinking these offensive coaches like McVeigh and Channe,
they hate special teams. Just go find like that guy.
They're blocking kicks and doing shit every game. To me,
I'm gonna have faith in Sam Donald. What do you
think about this comp Seattle reminds me a little of
the twenty nineteen forty nine Ers, Unreal defense, unreal front

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Sherman wasn't all pro that year, their secondary was really good.
Obviously they had great quick young linebacker play, and Jimmy
Garoppolo just kind of had to manage the game. And
remember in that NFC Championship game, he had eight attempts. Now,
I don't think that's gonna be quite the case. But
Sam Donald's had a game where he threw twelve completions
for one hundred and twenty yards and they won by
almost forty points. So it's like he just has to

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play in this Kobiak Shanahan offense like a Jimmy Garoppolo.
But he is better than Jimmy talent wise. But like Jimmy,
if you force him to pass too much, he can
throw it to the other team. So to me, it
all comes down to, like, can they turn Sam into
game manager? They will win this game. If they have
to rely on them, like Sean relies on Stafford. It

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could get dice in, could get dicey fast.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
And very dicey if they have to allow on him.
Because also you have the oblique issue which could flare
up at any time, and that flares up with the
more times that you have to throw, and it impacts
your deep passing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
So how about that first pass of the Niner game
when it will like kind of skipped, You're like, oh,
this could be a And then Shanahan said after the game,
he's like that Torri roll kicks in. You get a
little numb. He started rolling and like you said, what
eighteen attemp? It's not like he threw it forty nine
times yeap.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
So, and he's playing a defense it doesn't get pressure.
The Rams can get pressure, and that's been Donald's crypto.
Donald has been one of the worst quarterbacks in the
league against pressure this year, and that against the Rams
who can get pressure. Going back to last year for
Donald and then the two meetings this year, that leads
to Donald making mistakes. So that has to be the

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But this will come down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
But if the Rams aren't able, why why do you
think Shula's owned him so much? Is just the pressure
on him? Is the looks changing? I mean because clearly
over three games from a statistical standpoint, for a guy
that's resurrected his career and been excellent against most other opponents,
has been horrendous. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
I think a lot of it just boils down to
the pressure. And keep in mind this the left tackle
situation for Seattle is very dicey there. Backup and starter
didn't practice yesterday. We'll see what the practice reports say today.
But they could be down to like a third string
left tackle against Verse, which is not ideal. But this

(01:12:31):
so it just gets to three. I've been waiting for ticular.
I have to take the Rams now. The sched the
spot is not ideal for the Rams. They could be
like worn down, and maybe that's what we're seeing. But
this goes back to that crazy lucky win that the
Seahawks had that decided the one seed. And this is
the benefit that you get. The Seahawks had to buy

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and then a blot win at home and then they
stay at home host the NFC Championship. They have basically
haven't exerted much energy at all in a month. Meanwhile,
the Rams went to Carolina, We're in a dogfight. Chicago
go to overtime, and then could fly to Seattle for
their third straight road game after an overtime game.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Wait, Atlanta, remember Monday night football? This second to last week,
you know Seattle. Second to last week was San Francisco,
So wasn't that far of a flight.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Haven't had a break. We're buying forever, So like, are
they starting to wear down? Is that what we're seeing?
But if this is a three, If there's a three,
I have to take the Rams. I think that there's
part of this is there's a little overreaction and recency
bias for what we've seen over the past month. If
you go back just a week sixteen, so we have

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sixteen weeks, almost a full body of work. After that
Rams Seahawks game, you set everyone that watches that the
Rams are the best team in the NFL and they're
gonna win the Super Bowl. And that has changed drastically
in less than a month. And the Seahawks have just
played the Niners with all their injuries, and the Panthers.
They've only played two teams, so and I get the

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Rams that haven't looked as great since then. But the
Rams went to Seattle and put up five hundred and
eighty one yards and really only lost because of a
Fluke two point conversion. They also missed a field goal.
Your point about special teams, though, is valid. Seattle is
a major advantage. They have elite special teams. The Rams
do not. The Rams missed a field goal in that
game that would have won it. They gave up a

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punt return that flipped the game. Part of it is
that the Rams like their roster it was set. They
were not supposed to be in this position, but they
hit on their draft picks, Like nailed their draft picks right.
They sacrificed their future for that super Bowl that they got,
and they were going to have some very bad years
on the defensive side of the ball, but they hit
on their draft picks. They were able to maintain their

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level on that side. But the depth of the roster
isn't great, which leaks into the special teams and that's
why I think they're spe teams are really struggled. But
you're right, they could use like just a special teams
coordinator wizard. But that's a huge advantage for Seattle here.
But don't just I think in that game, I bet
Seattle plus one at home against the Rams. They got

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dominated and I got very lucky to win that bet.
They closed minus one. But keep in mind the Rams
were without Dotson, who you know, Argua with the best
guard in football. He came back last week looked dominant,
and they were without Devonte Adams and they still put
up nearly six hundred yards one of the things they did.
They ran right at Nick even Wore, ran right at him,
and I mean he Nick even Wore has been amazing,

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Like he has changed. One of the reasons why that
McDonald defense is unreal. They have no weaknesses and they
you know, he's able to basically play linebacker and d
back and that you can match heavier, light personnel. This
will come back.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
They're literally looking for a Kyle Hamilton type player, and
there just is a guy in this draft that they
can get in the second round. Kyle Hamilton type players, size,
they don't even really exist most drafts, and then there
just happens to be a guy. Kyle Hamilton was a
high pick, but you don't even need to draft that
high that you can just get in the second round.
I mean, it worked out fucking perfectly for him.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Unbelievable. So but this will come down to so like
in that game, Seattle is one the Rams. We're missing
two of their better players on offense. Now the Rams
are fully healthy on offense, the Seahawks might not be,
you know, Donald oblique their left tackle situations. Dicey lost
Chara so at three. I think it's way too much

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of an overreaction, and I'd have to take the Rams.
What I think this game will come down to is
and now, maybe Stafford's hand is a thing, and maybe
they're fatigued, you could argue that for sure, but at
a field goal, I'd have to take it. But I
think this is just going to come down to absolute
football porn between McVeigh and McDonald. So the first meeting,

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oddly enough, the first meeting, McDonald dominated McVeigh, but McVeigh one.
In the second meeting, McVeagh dominated McDonald and McDonald won.
And then you go back to the raid in Baltimore.
McVeigh dominated McDonald when they had the number one defense
in Baltimore, but McDonald won in overtime. But I think,

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like so, mcdagh made some really good adjustments and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Really back to that. We're back to that circle. You know,
Kyle still has success against the Rams, McVeigh against Seattle.
Seattle against the Niners is fucking life in the NC West.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
So there is in the first meeting, the Rams used
eleven personnel like sixty five percent of the time. In
the second meeting, they used thirteen personnel sixty five percent
of the time, and they had success running right at
Eman Warret. It was also in a short week. McDonald
said he tried to implement too many complex things and

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it was too much on a short week. But you know,
both teams are going to make adjustments. What did the
Rams do last week? They abandoned heavy personnel. I don't
know why, because that's how you want to attack the Bears,
especially in bad weather. But you know mcvay's gonna throw
a curveball and you know McDonald's gonna have kurballs. Which
one is more effective? Which one makes the better in
game adjustments? That is going to be absolute porn. The

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difference could be, you know, and if mcvay's able to
move the ball and they're able to put up points,
how do they also treat Nakula this time around? Because
Adams is playing? I mean, think about Nicooa went off
against It's unstoppable and Adams wasn't even playing. What is
the adjustment there? Do they bracket him more? Does Adams
look a little healthier this week? But the biggest difference

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here is Stafford's okay under pressure and Donald is not.
So if this gets into a high scoring affair and
Donald needs to match Stafford, and he has that oblique
and there might be left tackle issues. I'm taking the Ram,
But if the Seahawks defense is able to do its thing,

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like in the first meeting at home in this situation,
then the Seahawks probably get it done. You throw in
the special team's advantage. So this comes down to mcday
and McDonald and it's you could look at, however, the
other staff, like we talk about these games and as
better as try to break them down, but when in
the highest leverage games, that's when you make the most changes, right,
So they know that the staff's looking at the same

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things and the ten you want to break ten in
season these games. So what do the Seahawks do differently,
and what do the Rams do differently in the third meeting,
and who does it more effectively and catches the other
team appart, That's probably what's going to decide this. That's
what makes football chess matches like this so awesome. So
I can't wait to watch it. But at three, I
think it's just too much of a reaction to what's

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happened recently. Like just a month ago, everyone was saying
after a game in Seattle with a short handed offense,
the Rams are the best team. They just put up
six hundred yards on this defense, and I think we're overacting,
maybe just a little bit to what Seattle and Seattle's
offense hasn't been great for. You know, since week ten,
teams have adjusted, right. Mc donald was number third in

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EPA per player for the first ten weeks. Since then
twenty seventh, and a lot of that, the run games
gotten better because a lot of that is teams are
playing lighter boxes. Against the Seahawks. Early in the season,
they were running but not running it well. But teams
were loading the box because they hadn't think the Seahawks
had all these tight ends and they were running it
a tone, but that was just they were just doing
that to set up the play action in deep shots.

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To JSN. Well, defenses have since that, run it, we
don't care. Run it if you want, We're going to
take away the deep ball. We're going to bracket JSN.
So the Seahwks have their run games gotten better, but
those explosive passing plays have gone out the window. And
I think the Rams will play it the same way. Right,
They'll say, yeah, run it if you want, We just
want to. You're not gonna be able to do it

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consistently enough all the way on the field without getting
into a third down where then we can get unleash
our pass rush and get to Donald. I think that's
got to be their goal so this but I think
this all just comes down to the McVeigh versus McDonald
chess match, which is as good as it gets. I
can't wait for that game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Well, one major difference in the Niners, clearly with their
wide receiver injuries. You know, Kitt'll being out in this
last game. When it's like third and six, they have
no chance for guys to get open against that defense.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Well, the Niners, they're not a defense and can get
pressure against Donald.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Two's yeah so and it flips. So it's but when
you look at the rams on offense and it's third
and six, you could argue, if DeVante's healthy, they have
the two best possession wide receivers in the league. So
it's like, you know, I mean Jefferson and Chase, these
guys are more explosive. But those two guys on third
and seven or third and five, when it's a must
pass on a slant on an out, when it's just

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something to get past the six and make a fucking play.
I mean, you could argue DeVante's been the best version
of that guy for a decade and Puka is now
the best at that so and that's a huge advantage.
I thought that win going on the road, and I
know Chicago was flawed, but their defense when you start
getting single digits, those games are really hard. They're not
gonna be thirty five to thirty. That's not the way

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it's played. That was. I mean everything we've talked about
Miami for twenty five years, what the Rams have done.
I mean, I don't know what the weather was like
last week in LA but it probably wasn't colder than
sixty to handle that in the physicality like they've That
gets to the way they've built the team with the GM,
the way mcveigh's, the mindset that the forty nine ers

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have done the same over the years, be able to travel,
it's a physicality mindset in the cold, and that shit
translates in the playoffs. So I if the Rams play well,
like they can win this game, no problem. Like I say,
no problem, Like it wouldn't shock anybody if you tell
me the Rams win this game, right, twenty five to
twenty or something. So that's in Stafford. I mean, if

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he's on, they're just tough.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
And I mean think I think the most I mean
you mentioned Nikoua, and maybe the most impressive performance of
the entire season is what MKUA did in Seattle against
that defense with no Adams. I mean that teamens gives
up nothing. They haven't given up a play over twenty
yards in a month. They give up nothing to anybody.
And Nicoua without Adams had twelve catches for two hundred

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and twenty five yards. Like, that's ridiculous against this defense.
This defense doesn't give up one hundred twenty five total
yards in a game. So how does that's another one
of these adjustments. What did they do with Nikouah? I
mean because he did that without Adams in the line up,
been without Dotson. So yeah, just I can't wait to

(01:23:33):
watch that chess match. I do think. Now, again, it's
one football game. Anything can happen, but I do think
this the winner of this game is your Super Bowl winner.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Well, think think about the Let's say New England wins.
New England then has to fly back to New England,
which is a long flight, and then fly back to
San Francisco. Well, Seattle and the Rams they never leave
the time zone. So Seattle wins, they'll just fly down
to San Francisco whatever in a week, not a long flight, LA,
it's like forty five minutes. I mean, it's it's it's
a pretty convenient Super Bowl setup for the winner of

(01:24:08):
this NFC championship game. That there's no disputing that, right, Yeah.
I now here's a question if you don't know, I
don't know, if you factor that in with the extra
bye week, it makes it a little easier. But that
that's cross country flight. Anyone who's made it, just doing
it one time, just it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Yeah, No, there's it's definitely worth mentioning if you were
the Patriots, because I mean, if you I think the
let me I'll pull up the hypothetical because we're saying,
given this the situation right now, all right, so in

(01:24:47):
the Super Bowl right now, the look at lines are
literally the same exact price. So the hypotheticals the Rams
are minus three and a half minus one oh four
against the Patriots, the Seahawks are minus three and a
half minus one oh four against the Patriots, literally identical prices.

(01:25:10):
So from a if you just if you we assume
that line is right, then mathematically, just to odds probability,
there's no difference in the teams. But who would you
want to face, right, Like, historical you go against the
Seahawks historically great defense, but you get to face Sam
Darnold or you know, the Rams their defense a little

(01:25:33):
more gettable, but you have to face Stafford and that offense.
And I do think that the Rams would benefit immensely
from the two week break, right, we just talked about
the stretch that they've been on and how like fatigue
might be getting catching up a bit, and they've had

(01:25:54):
all that travel all right, they might really benefit from
that two weeks. So as good as the Seattle, I
don't think there's a huge difference, but his dominant Seattle defenses,
I think I would if I could pick from the
Patriots or the Broncos, I'm picking Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
I think, Yeah, I think the shitty part. If you're
Sean Payton, you're like your offensive line is at least
equipped to handle the versus the Leonard Williams like you could.
The Patriots would be at a big disadvantage against, especially
the way Seattle's defensive lines humming, you know, and I
you know, Donald is not going to play like C. J.
Stroud in a sixty degree Levi Stadium day. So I

(01:26:39):
I think that offensive line, you know, the Rams have
had moments where they're off. Their defensive line has disappeared.
Now they showed up definitely last game. It felt like that.
I mean, they did a great job on Caleb kind
of breaking down, not letting him scramble around. They were
excellent against them run. Yeah, I mean I think that Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Hard for me to see the Broncos having a chance though,
like you, I mean, Stida will have a start under
his belt. But I think the way that they win
this game is, you know, with the home crowd, with
their defense against the battle line, and this has to
be Peyton kitchen sink. You gotta throw everything at and
now you're gonna they're gonna have There's only so much
you can do with Stidham after that one game. So

(01:27:22):
it's very difficult for me to see the Broncos beating
either of the Seahawks or the Rams. But yeah, if
I was the Patriots, I think I would choose the Seahawks.
But it's very very close. I mean, the price is
literally identical, but I will say from I do hope
that it is. We do get the Patriots versus the
Rams are Seahawks just from an entertainment and us talking
about it perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
So, uh, you got potentially no power this weekend? Is
that what it's looking like?

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
It's close. We're on right on the like fringe of
whether it's all snow or if it's ice, and no
one really knows, so hopefully it's just snow and it's
not like a half inch ice, which would then knock
down power lines and trees, which would be an absolute nightmare.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
What would you do if there's no power on a
Sunday during the games?

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
I mean, I have thirteen portable chargers, but always take
out to bar. I would bring out a couple of bars,
and I'd lose them in my house. I'd buy more,
so I have so many. I found every single one
in my house. I'm charging them all so I would
be able to watch it on my phone. And I

(01:28:31):
have a gas fireplace, so I'll just be sitting in
front of my fireplace watching on my phone, so I'll
be able to watch Because the bars, I could get
down to my wife's bar. I don't know if they
would have power open that up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
That's why God made whiskey keep you warm.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
That's true. So yeah, I'll be able to watch, but
it might not be the most ideal setup, but I will.
I'll make sure that I have devices charged and ready
to stream all day. But hopefully it doesn't come to that.
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Well, stuck, you enjoy the weekend, stay warm, and we
will talk soon.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Yeah, get some rest, brother, cheers the volume

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