3 & Out - Bills presser was WILD, Bakers gets MAD, 49ers Practice Facility

Former NFL scout John Middlekauff dives into the wild press conference with the Bills owner and GM, where we learned why Bills owner Terry Pegula doesn't talk to the media very often. Next, John reacted to some of the other coaching news around the NFL, Baker Mayfield going off on twitter regarding a tweet about him and his time in Cleveland, and if teams during SB week will have an issue with the 49ers practice facility.

Finally, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment.

03:38 - Bills wild press conference 

14:02 - Other coaching news

28:36 - Baker goes off on twitter

32:43 - 49ers practice facility

38:30 - Mailbag

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff three
and out podcast. How are we doing? Hopefully everyone's having

(00:21):
a great day out there in the real world, raising
your children, enjoying life, staying warm. If you're in a
cold weather city, we'd like to meet to meet today
in Scottsdale was a little chillier about sixty five. Had
to put on a little hoodie. But we're gonna have
to start this podcast with what happened in Buffalo because

(00:41):
that press conference was was fireworks. You don't get those
too often, and I thought, let's do a little NFL
rapid fire from Buffalo to McCarthy interviewing with the Steelers,
to Baker Mayfield, going after Stefanski to the forty nine ers,
acknowledging the substate. We'll talk about it all. We'll just

(01:02):
NFL different topics from today, as well as a mailbag
at John Middlecoff as the Instagram fire and those dms.
Get your questions answered here on the show. You obviously
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(01:23):
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I've had some other requirements and obviously football season coming
down the home stretch, but we're gonna separate that this

(01:43):
year with some I mean, we have some big news
Koepka and stuff, but that's we'll keep that on the
other podcast. And yeah, so let's just let's talk some
football and just dive right into the Buffalo Bills. Now.
I've been pretty critical because one guy got promoted, one
guy got fired, and I was like, you know, how
are these guys not on equal footings, even though we

(02:05):
know that's not how it usually goes. I have a
little bit of a different take today. I've never listened
or heard Terry Pegoula talk. I learned through the press
conference that the man rarely talks, And after watching today,
I understood why I would never go in front of
a microphone again if I was him. My big takeaway
today is like, I don't know if he's the sharpest

(02:27):
tool in the shed. Some of you would be like John,
he's a billionaire, how would you say he's not smart? Well,
I can't say I know many billionaires, but I knew
some multimillionaires growing up who didn't have a high school diploma.
Because historically sixties, seventies, eighties, Pagoula made his money in oil. Like,
you could get by with not being the smartest guys
if you had nste size of watermelons, if you had balls,

(02:49):
if you were willing to take chances because most human
society or not. Like, I don't know if Jerry Jones
is the sharpest guy in every room he's ever walked in.
But there's no disputing that Jerry was willing to take
some big swings back in the day. I'm talking before
the cowboys. He had large cohonas and like reading a
little bit about Terry and his business climb, there's no
disputing Terry's got some stones. But like when you watch

(03:12):
him and listen, not everyone is a great public speaker.
I've told the story before. My brother is much more
capable of like ninety nine percent of things in life
than me. Yet he couldn't eat his dinner before my
wedding because he had to give a speech which lasted
like thirty seconds. So people are just uncomfortable speaking in public,
which is understandable. Like I talk for a living, so

(03:32):
I try not to judge people that talking in these settings.
But like I've seen enough owners talk like most guys
can handle themselves. He could not. And then I started
doing a little digging, like I don't follow hockey. No
team in pro sports besides the Jets has a longer
playoff drought than the Buffalo Sabers. He happened to own
that franchise as well. I've said this for a long time,

(03:54):
like you watched this press conferences theater, and I live
for a good press conference. When it's like it's fucking
on like Donkey Kong. People want answers, people want to
know what's going on. This feels like a shady situation.
Like let's rewind a couple of weeks ago to the
Ravens Steve Bushatti fires John Harbaugh. It really wasn't that controversial.

(04:15):
Was like eighteen years we felt like we came to
the end of the road, we make a change, and
you looked up at the day it's such as him
talking and he's given his answers, unfazed, comfortable in his environment.
It is just in that situation, whether you liked or
didn't like what he was saying, like he wasn't afraid anything,
Bring it fucking on, right, and he was like, that's
what an honor, That's that's how it should be handled.

(04:36):
I watched Chris Chris Marritt yesterday after the Hardball press conference.
He did something on the side with all the media
and he's usually not the lead voice. This is his
brother John handled it with ease. You watched Terry up
there today. Obviously the keyon Coleman comment which I will
defend Brandon Bean later in the press conference he came

(04:58):
back like, listen, we were all on the same page.
Anytime you don't draft like really really high, I would
say top five, but maybe like the top fifteen, Like
you could get someone at eleven that you kind of
had a decent idea who was gonna be there, and
that's who your coaching staff, the personnel people love. You
start drafting pack pass like pick twenty five, there are

(05:18):
gonna be seven different opinions in the room. Coach GM coordinators,
A couple of scouts, like most people are gonna be like,
I wish we would have drafted that guy. I wanted
that guy. That's not abnormal at all. And I think
Brandon Bean really tried to double down. Like Listen, I
liked him too. There are videos going viral of him
liking him. I like Keon Coleman a lot of Florida State.
I thought he was a stud. Remember that first game

(05:38):
against LSU, you have three touchdowns, It was just mossing
dudes in the corner of the end zone. Was fantastic performance.
So I was pro key. I'm not trying to act
like it was a crazy draft pick at the time.
But and I think Brandon Bean tried to like later
on saying listen, I don't tried to distance himself a
little bit from that, and it shows, like Terry, there's

(06:00):
not that big a difference beside owners that don't give
you money to spend on your team like that. That's
a big separating factor. But most of these guys have
no clue what they're doing. Let's just be real, right,
They are very dependent on the people they hire, and
if they get the people they hire right, their team
kicks ass. Terry Pagoula is a good example. Bean McDermott.

(06:23):
A year in they draft Josh Allen and it's on
like Donkey Kong. If he would have drafted two people
that weren't capable, which we see happen all the time,
the Buffalo Bills franchise could still be a joke like
it was most of the Internet era, post like the
late nineties. So like people have to make decisions on
who to keep and who not to keep, and it's

(06:43):
always easier for these owners to keep the GM. I
understand that we've been consistent on this podcast. It's not
even a pro personnel anti coach thing. It's just like
they communicate more closely. They're able to make their case
more easily. They speak their same language where coaches sometimes don't,
and coaches voice like the GM and addressing the team.

(07:06):
The GM ain't the guy scheming up the place. So
the and the coach makes way more. The coaches also,
let's say, being who I mean, I would surely makes
a decent amount of money, let's say five to six million.
Sean mcdernod's like making fifteen million, So the coaches make
way more, their jobs more volatile. It comes with the
territory right. But watching Pegoula to Dad went, WHOA, they

(07:28):
were a bad hire from this thing being the Jets,
because you watch this guy, he is a complete wild card,
and I've always just assumed didn't know much about him.
Good ownership. I think they hired the right people when
they drafted the right quarterback because I watched Terry Pegoula
and I went, I don't really see it. Someone take

(07:50):
the mic away from him as someone DM me. What
they should have done is at Terry start and just say, listen,
we had a bunch of shots at this He's been
here nine years. We really respect him, took a bunch
of shots. We couldn't get over the hump, and we
thought it was time to make a change. That's my statement.
Sticking to it, I'm out, Brandon West answer all your questions. Instead,

(08:11):
he just kept talking and it was like holy shit,
like random Bean's listen. I'm not anti Bean in the
sense that I've heard him do a lot of interviews
over the years. I've always thought he was a sharp guy,
whether he's a great drafter or not. Like no one's
comparing him to like Al Davis in his prime, right,
But he clearly had some good players, and it's done

(08:32):
a solid job and takes a large amount of the
responsibility for landing the quarterback, which was very controversial at
the time. There is no Monday Morning quarterback like everyone
would take in Josh Allen. Josh Allen and I vividly
remember this. I'm like, that's crazy. You're gonna take a
small school guy. I get he has some traits, who

(08:54):
is extremely inaccurate and did not really win in college.
That is ballsy. And I had actually had a good
buddy with the Chiefs was like, bro, I think this
guy's a big time talent. He's got a chance. And
my buddy was right. And clearly the Bills were right
because there were people in the league that could kind
of see it. But there have been a lot of
Josh Allens that turned into Anthony Richardson's or Trey Lances.
So it took stones. They got it right, and I

(09:16):
would imagine that's a big reason that indebted him to
the owner, right, because he was one of the driving
forces of doing that and then extending the contracts. But
you watch the owner and you go listen, I get
you're an oil maverick and made a lot of money
in that industry, and you got some stones, but what
a microphone's in front of your mouth. Someone involved with
the Buffalo Bills needs heyank that thing around. They even

(09:38):
asked them one question because of the new stadium, and
I guess he got close to nine hundred million dollars
with taxpayer money, which I'm not like most in the media.
It's like the taxpayers don't. I don't care. If I
owned a team, I would try to get as much
free money as possible. We all would. I mean, welcome
to the real world. So it doesn't bother me as
much as like people on Twitter. But they asked him,

(10:02):
because you got all this free money, will you be
available to just talk more. It's like, yeah, I might be.
And then after I was like, I do not make
him available. This makes it way worse. Keep him away
from the microphone. If he had a podcast, I think
would go belly up quick. Uh So the Bills, I mean,
all eyes now are on who they're gonna hire, right,

(10:23):
look at the Ravens fired Harbor. They just feel pretty normal.
Probably gonna hire Mentor. It was less controversial because it's
not like they were gonna fire DaCosta uh, I mean
Ta Costa was. It's well known. He's John Harbaugh's best friends,
the fucking neighbors. It's just it's just very, very normal, right,
and then you see the bills like this thing. Honestly,

(10:43):
it had some It had some similarities too. I remember
going when Jim Harbaugh was fired and they ended up
hiring Jim tom Sula. But the post Jim Harbaugh firing
press conference was as explosive and entertaining of a press
conference in the postseason is you're gonna get They don't

(11:05):
get any better. I live for him that they thoroughly
entertained me. Like listen, you saw Ben Johnson today or
Kyle and Lynch today, Like those are cool. Get some
nuts and bolts about what's going on, maybe a headline
or two. There's nothing like every question. You don't know
where the bullets are gonna fly and what's gonna come.
Because it's everyone, you could tell they're up there on
edge all four. My guess would be sitting here that

(11:29):
Brian Dayball's the next coach, assuming Josh and him have
a good relationship, and to my knowledge they do so,
I would guess that's the easiest route. Like that They're
not gonna hire some random coordinator. You can't take that
type risk with this infrastructure already there. So betting man
right now, it would be Brian Dayball, and if it's not,
it would be someone else with some cachet, because you

(11:50):
can't just fire Sean McDermott and go hire you know,
Robert Salah. I mean, I know he's not available, but
I'm just using him as an example. Some other coach
news that's pretty interesting. There's a couple here, so the
Steelers interviewed Mike McCarthy. I think the Steelers is a
terrible job. I think the Steelers job like they'll get

(12:13):
to get a lot of credit. They've had three coaches
in like seventy five years. Cool, great, it's twenty twenty
five that their roster on paper looks terrible because it's
a bunch of aging players that are making a ton
of money and they have no quarterback. So like, this
Steeler team isn't exactly the one that Tomlin took over
or the one like you know from the late nineties

(12:33):
with some great players. This is a team that I
was short the majority of their players and is going
to probably next year be a rebuild. I know the
owner pushed back on that, but I haven't read like
one of those like seventy two hours into the Mike
Tomlin decision slash pressure he had felt for meetings. I
haven't read that article, so I'm just taking it on

(12:55):
face value that Mike Tomlin saw the writing on the wall,
this thing was over. I'm jumpionship, right, but the Steelers
situation is something to me that's not that desirable, and
you can't if you're gonna lose Mike Tomlin, it's pretty
hard to sell to hire Mike McCarthy, who in a
lot of ways is very similar. I mean, look at

(13:20):
his run with the Cowboys. Had some good teams, couldn't
do anything in the playoffs. I mean part of the
problem with the Steelers, like they've been competitive, they just
get dominated by the good teams, especially in January. So
if Mike McCarthy also was thinking about this today, you like,
think about like Pat Riley. It's like, played and coached
for the Lakers, then I went to the New York Knicks,

(13:42):
and then I basically created the Miami Heat. It's like
that's a hell of a run. Or Joe Torrey's like
won a bunch of championships with the Yankees and then
went to the Dodgers. Like that's fucking badass, that's sweet.
You know, Mike McCarthy coach for the Packers, the Cowboys,
and the Steelers. Robert saw his coach for the Jets

(14:06):
and the Titans. I mean, think how lucky if McCarthy
got this job. And who knows. I mean, it's not
like anyone has a great feel for where the Steelers
are gonna go. They might be able to sell themselves,
like we could do a lot worse than this guy.
He knows how to work with some quarterbacks. He's look
at Rogers, look at Dak Prescott like, there's no disputing
McCarthy's I'm not acting like he's the village idiot either.
I'm just saying there's not much of a difference with

(14:27):
the two. Now. The main difference is McCarthy can call plays.
But I just can't get over if McCarthy were to
get that job, it'd be one of the truly great
resumes in the history of the league. The three franchises
he got to coach, you could argue might be the
three most iconic franchises. Definitely three of the top five
in the history of the NFL, and if we just

(14:49):
did all of sports, including in American professional sports, I
would say three of the top ten you'd throw in
the Yankees, you throwing the Lake, probably throwing the Knicks,
the Dodgers. I mean, it's the Packers, the Cowboys, and
the Steelers. He's a fucking pretty short list. So listen,

(15:10):
people make fun of Mike McCarthy. I asaw someone you know,
do people kind of judge him because he's fat? Is
the look is it? I don't know what it is.
I my guess would be one issue people have with them.
I mean, one of the Knocks and packed with the Packers.
It felt like Aaron Rodgers talked down upon him, like
didn't think he was that smart, and then they broke

(15:32):
up and they acted like they had a great time together,
which clearly they did early on. Then it got a
little weird, and then Rogers made that comment after the
end of the season. How our society has reflected all
these coaches on the hot seat. It's like, Aaron, you
were there when Mike McCarthy got fired in the middle
of the year. I remember that you lost to Arizona.
He got fired the next day, it's like, fuck, people
get fired all the time. Welcome to pro sports players.

(15:53):
How many players have you seen run out of the building?
What are you talking about? But it was one of
those sexy little uh press conference quotes that really had
was the opposite of the truth. And I think Kansas
City did something pretty interesting. Matt Naggie rolled the dice right.
He thought his boy Boreganzi was in Tennessee Callahan was

(16:15):
in some trouble. He's like, I'm not gonna sign an extension.
I'm gonna play this out. Steve Spagnola did the same
thing the year before and will win big and I'm
either gonna get a huge raise or I'm gonna become
a head coach. Turns out it neither happened because the
Chiefs went six and eleven, so his leverage to get
a big raise way off the table. If you remember

(16:35):
last year or in the last couple of years Spagnola,
I remember the forty nine ers tried to hire him.
He got a massive raise, one of the highest paid
coordinators in the league. Matt Naggy the team lost and
was like, you're not getting to raise here, buddy, And
then you know, I think he thought he was going
to Tennessee because we all kind of did. We just
assumed like that was gonna happen. Honestly, it was a

(16:55):
little shocking when the headline and the story broke Robert
saw as the next head coach of the Titans. No
one was more surprised, probably than Matt Naggie. So now
you got him interviewed, interviewing in Philly, which I actually
could see happening when I got hired in Philly. Naggi
was one of the lowest guys on the totem pole.
He played college football with Veach in Delaware, was a

(17:16):
longtime AFL quarterback, worked his way up from a quality
control guy to a quarterback coach. Obviously he was a
head coach, so I think one thing getting away from
Andy could really do wonders for him. And if he
goes to Philly, a bright light market with a lot
of people watching, and have success and get Jalen back
on the right track, he could easily get a head

(17:39):
coaching job next year. And bringing Eric the enemy back
for the Chiefs. I think they also hired Chad O'Shea
as a wide receiver coach who spent a lot of
years in New England. I think Andy's trying to button
it up a little bit and get some guys that
will just get in people. Obviously he knows Eric really well,
who is just, you know, kind of a throwback coach

(18:01):
and o'shee coming from the Belichick tree. I think he's
trying to put a little sense of urgency on the
offensive side of the ball. One couple. You know, we
all know these couples that they don't really make that
much sense. You're like, how did these two people fall
in love? You're like, I never would have guessed it,
but they actually have a lot in common, Like politically

(18:22):
they're on the same page. They enjoy doing the same things.
But you look at him, You're like, these two people
really it's like, yeah, they just they just fell in love.
You know, it's hard. Love's a powerful thing. I would
say that about Mike McDaniel and Jim Harbaugh. If you
just saw the two of them, they couldn't look any
more polar opposite. Jim looks like this sixty year old

(18:44):
former elite athlete. He's a massive dude, just alpha. Mike
is this five to nine, one hundred and fifty pounds
soaking wet. Now he's rich, he's wearing Gucci shades, a
fifty thousand dollars watch, and fucking weird ass pain and
he's gonna beat Harbaugh's offensive coordinator. And honestly, it kind

(19:04):
of makes some sense. They actually, when it comes to football,
have similar philosophies. Mike McDaniel made his career under Kyle
with the offensive line coach is the run game guru,
so from a blocking standpoint in the run game, and
even when he became the wide receiver coach, you don't block,
you don't play like. That's a huge thing with the

(19:25):
forty nine ers and has been throughout Kyle's ten year
going back to the Shanahan, his dad and the Kubiaks.
You got a block because they're running offense. And Mike McDaniel,
he's gone viral before for like coaching clinics. He's big
on blocking with your wide receivers. What does Jim Harball
want to do? He wants to run it forty times
a game. So while they don't look anything alike, Jim

(19:46):
Harball were the same thing every day. Mike has closed
that most of us couldn't even find on the internet.
If you gave us three days to look, and I
think this thing could be good. And if Mike McDaniel,
if these guys are healthy, the two offensive linemen. They
just have a first round running back who I didn't
really see it last year. Now give him an offseason.

(20:07):
Maybe a little overweight, I don't know. He just looked
kind of slow to me. But they're gonna have some pieces.
And clearly they have a talented quarterback who a lot
of people think is kind of underachieved in the biggest
moments because he has Mike McDaniel could lot like what
happened to Robert Sahlo this year, gets fired last year
with the Jets, like Robert Sall kind of sucks, right, Look,
you can't deal with that situation comes to the forty

(20:28):
nine ers. Robert Sall is a badass interviewing all over
the place head coaching job. Like, who's to say that
wouldn't happen with Mike, especially if he can handle and
things go well with Jim. So just a fascinating marriage.
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(22:40):
this tweet on I guess it would have been Tuesday
because Kevin Stefanski said in a press conference about their
quarterback situation. Let me just find the tweet. I don't
want to screw it up. I think I need a
new phone because the buttons don't really work. So here
is the quote tweet from Baker Mayfield. The tweet came

(23:02):
out from Kevin Stefanski that the Falcons Kevin Stefanski had
a dumpster fire at quarterback in Cleveland. Baker Mayfield and
Deshaun Watson failed, which started to chain reaction to the
other eleven starters. Shador Sanders closed out last season with
seven starts, and then I guess it was Orlando Ledbetter,
who's one of like I think the Atlanta Journal Constitution

(23:22):
kind of a throwback, a big Jay journal for Atlanta's
big paper. Baker quoted it saying, failed is quite the
reach pal. Still waiting on a text slash call from
him after I got shipped off like a piece of garbage.
Can't wait to see you twice a year, coach. Clearly
there is some bad blood between Baker Mayfield and Kevin Stefanski.

(23:46):
Joe Thomas then later quoted Baker's tweet, saying you could
have reached out and called him, which I don't think
that's usually how it goes. But I will say this
about Kevin Stefanski. I was thinking about Sean McDermott. He
gets now he clearly had more success in Stefanski. But
every player on the Bills is I mean, from starting

(24:07):
players to role players, is posting statements, is posting pictures.
Clearly his respect in that locker room was running pretty deep.
I don't pretend to follow every Cleveland Brown player. But
I haven't seen a peep being said by anybody. Do
people like Kevin Stefanski? Like, I know he's smart and
people keep telling him he's a great offensive mind, but like,

(24:30):
do the players like him? Kind of important? Like it
kind of matters? So like, does Baker have a point?
Didn't call him to tell you I'm gonna trade you? Like,
who do you think you are? A Belichick? There is
kind of an arrogance to Stefanski. There's no debating that,
you know. I know the media loves him. They think
he's a fucking genius. I was thinking a couple of

(24:51):
years ago when they won with Flacco, weren't they a
defensive team? Like, was it Jim Schwartz kind of carrying
most of the load. I have to go back and
really break down the stats. But and he'd be like, well,
look at his quarterback. Well isn't that kind of his
gig to figure out quarterbacks? I mean, last year in
the third round, and there's no way they draft a
third round quarterback without the head coach who is the

(25:13):
play caller and the quarterback guru, without signing off on him.
Took a guy that most teams has undraftable. So I
think this is the Fanski thing. This is nothing against
him personally, like I I nothing bad to say about him,
met him one time, nice guy, But when it comes
to a football coach and the way he handles his business,

(25:34):
I don't know, man, I just think that he's kind
of got this like media thing going that there's a Brandon.
His personality's a lot different than Brandon Staley, but the
media early on there was support behind him. That feels
a little bit like that here, and then you read
quotes like this like you can't even call guys when

(25:54):
you cut him and trade him, you know, starting quarterbacks.
I don't blame you practice squad guys. You got bigger
fish to fry, but kind of embarrassing. It's like, where
are the players coming out to be like, this is
one of the best guys I've ever played for. Happens
all the time. Happened to day Ball when day Ball
got fired, A bunch of guys came out and they
weren't even winning. So I don't know. I've got that situation.

(26:15):
Red flag props the Baker for toxes of shit. We
need more of that. And last but not least on
this rapid fire, which I wouldn't know if it's a
rapid fire, went like thirty minutes. The forty nine ers
like a bunch of teams do Most teams do the
coach and the GM sometimes just the coach. They kind
of give an end of the year a little presser
to the media, and there was a lot going on,

(26:38):
and one question that just had to be asked, is
a substation thing? Now? One thing I was hoping for,
just because I think it would be such an explosive topic,
would if one of the Super Bowl teams was practicing
there and refused to practice there because of the substation.
But someone told me today that I think the two

(26:58):
teams one practice stamp for one practice San Jose, So
I don't even think anyone practices on the Niners field.
So it'll be a non topic in a couple of
weeks for the individual two teams to make the Super Bowl.
But John Lynz did acknowledge it, and it's something they
have looked at and they're gonna have to look at
more because it is a topic. I've been saying this,
it's not going away. And I saw Dante Whitner say

(27:19):
the number one the only thing that matters this offseason
is figuring out how to state keep your guys healthy
Like that is the niners number one priority, and it
should be number two, number three, number four, number five.
How do we keep the players that we have on
the fucking field because if we don't, we will not win.
It's not gonna happen. They definitely benefited a little bit
from a little easier schedule this year with some of

(27:40):
their injuries. If they were playing better teams week in
week out, it would have been much more difficult. Given
the team they were rolling out fully healthy, that hell,
they might have won the Super Bowl. They probably would have,
or at least been I had a much better effort
against Seattle, but they got no chance the group they
were rolling out. And it all gets back to all
these achilles, all these acls, all these injuries. So I

(28:02):
don't know where to even start when it comes to
the study. But they better dive deep into it and
figure some things out and figure him out quick. They
acknowledge that Brandon Ayuk will never play for the forty
nine ers again, and I would guess that his trademarket
will be As Mike Dunleevy said about kamingas if a
guy has a trade request, there needs to be a market.

(28:25):
If not, there is no way to fulfill the trade request.
It takes two to tango right, and Brandon Ayuk's situation
with the forty nine ers really just became a disaster
and then pretty sad. As Kyle Shanahan said, in his
twenty two years of coaching, he's never not been able
to have a player just go dark on him. It's

(28:47):
on his own team. They can't get a hold of him.
I clearly, mentally it feels like he's not in a
good place. The videos went viral of him speeding around,
but just a pretty sad story. And as John said,
I mean, there's no way around. It's pretty embarrassing for
the Niners. And clearly they have a regret of not
pulling the trigger last year when they could have traded him.

(29:08):
They should have traded him before the draft, but they
were in this Super Bowl or bus mode and they
thought they could have their cake and eat it too,
and it blew up in their face. Now, no one
would have saw this coming, but it came, and now
it's here and they're gonna have to cut him. Luckily
for them, for whatever reason, he didn't fight the money
and they were able to get back twenty five million
dollars of bonus money. They a couple other things. Mac Jones,

(29:33):
who I think is gonna be a sexy name to
kind of be a bridge quarterback like a Daniel Jones
was last year. Kyle Shanahan said today like, I'd be
stunned if he's not on the team, And to me,
what he's saying is like, obviously there are prices that
you can't turn down for just about anyone in the NFL,
but Mac Jones has a lot of value to us.

(29:53):
Perty's been hurt before, he's proven he can win games
with us. We're not just giving them to someone because
and he's a cheat back up fourth round pick. Here's
Mac Jones. To me, I think it would take a
top fifty pick for the forty nine ers to entertain
getting rid of them. I really do, because his value
to them is stronger than some late third round, fourth

(30:14):
round pick. And I don't know if another team would
do that. So my guess is there's probably truth to
what Kyle saying. I'd be surprised if Mac Jones is
not on this team because his value to us, and
what we would need to part with them to any
team that just needed a fill in quarterback is probably
more than they're willing to pay for this guy who's
really is on a one year contract as well. But

(30:35):
you never know, right, you never know. Desperation is a
powerful thing quarterbacks and quarterback needs clearly pop up every
Look how many teams have nothing at quarterback that just
need something serviceable. And he's a name to watch. But
think about if I told you your team just gave
up pick forty. And again, I don't know who's drafting forty,

(30:58):
so I'm just put an arbitrary team in there picked
forty four for mac Jones, Like, huh, it's a little rich.
Gus Bradley will more than likely be Robert Sala's feeling.
And I think clearly when they hired Robert Sala, they
knew at best they were gonna have him a couple
of years that he was gonna get rehired, and they

(31:19):
were right, and he got hired, probably faster than they wanted.
But they also brought Gus to basically as anyone that
listened to Haberman, like he would eat lunch, like those
guys would always be together they are very very close.
Gus hired Robert Sala when he was the coach of
the Jacksonville Jags as linebacker coach, so that's where Kyle

(31:41):
got him from. And you know, when you hire these
guys who are kind of rocket ships. And I'm not
acting like Saul is a rocket ship in the sense
of like some future star head coach, but in terms
of you know you're not gonna be able to keep it,
does behoove you to kind of have a repla around
and training with him, even if it's a guy that

(32:03):
has experience and may have his own ways, but just
get him together and have him learn what you like.
So it's an easy transition because I don't think Kyle
wanted to go outside the building again like Steve Wilks,
because that blew up in his face. Okay, let's go

(32:30):
mail back at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the
Instagram fire and those dms get your questions answered right
here on the show. We will start with Aaron big Fan,
keep up the good work like this guy, Eagles fan,
fresh off the loss. Eagles offense has been incompetent all year,
so this loss was pretty predictable. Question. I'm stealing this

(32:50):
observation from my brother, but I think it's a good one. Listen,
I still takes from my wife or friends on text
all the time that we use on the podcast, never
even credit him. You don't even need to credit, just
steal the take as your own. The Eagles are in
a cycle of playing well, losing their OC, playing bad
under a new OC, and then getting a new OC
and playing good again. And my brother made the point

(33:11):
that this is a direct result of Siriani being a
CEO coach. Since he's not the head coach NC like
a Shanahan or Andy Reid, He's totally dependent on his
offensive coordinator every year, whereas guys like Andy and Kyle
don't lose their OC when they are good because they
are the OC. I think you can see this a
bit with other teams like John harbad, Dan Campbell, and

(33:34):
other CEO head coaches. I saw Brandon Bean make a
really good point today and he said that at the
end of the day, the first thing you need to
do when hiring a coach, whether they're a play caller
or not, is get a good leader, because their role
as the head coach is unlike anything they've done as
a coordinator. Best case scenario, you get the guy that

(33:57):
can handle all the controversy. That's line is way because
every day as a head coach, from injuries to internal
fighting with coaches, with players, to duys to arrest to
you name it, that all falls on your desk. Think about,
like I'm at my desk right now, or you're at
your desk right now listening, and shit just hits the fan.

(34:18):
In whatever you're doing for a living, that comes immediately
to you depending on what you do, Like, there could
be problems you don't have to mess with. It's nice
you're like, I'm looking not my issue when you're a
head coach, there is no that's not my issue. Problem
in the training room, problem in the equipment room, fucked
up in the cafeteria, like it kind of gets back
to you. So I, Sirianni, just like all the other

(34:44):
CEO head coaches, they have to deal with all that stuff.
But so does Kyle Shamahan, So do Sean Payton, so
does Sean McVay. In a perfect world you get both.
There's just not that many of those guys. So if
you hire the bad coach in terms of to call
your play or the wrong coach, you're just screwed. That's
the reality with the CEO head coach. But it's no

(35:06):
different like with these offensive coaches. If Andy Reid had
hired the wrong defensive coordinator, they probably don't have three
Super Bowls. But he hires Bags and his defense got
dramatically better and they started rattling them off. Right Like
Jim Harbaugh. If Mike McDaniel is really good and all
of a sudden the Chargers in the AFC Championship Game

(35:27):
next year, he's gonna look like a genius. But at
their offense, which I'd be stunned if it does, but
gets worse, he's gonna get shit out because Harbaugh is
just a CEO head coach. Look at Dan Campbell this
year hired Johnny Morton. So it's just there's an element
of luck. I mean, like how well your players respond
to the coach. It's unknown, honestly, hiring a coach a

(35:49):
little like a draft pick. No one knew who Ben
Johnson was five years ago, but surely Dan saw it
in him, liked him, knew he was impressive, and they
gave him a shot and they never looked back. I
remember when the Bears initially resigned Dj Moore to the extension,
you brought up cost certainty and the value in knowing

(36:10):
exactly how much a player will be paid in future seasons.
With that in mind, most people have been saying, since
the Bears have an abundance of weapons, they should trade
more for picks or defensive help. Do you think it
would make sense to keep DJ and trade Rome or
Rome is currently on a cheap rookie deal around the
same time as Caleb, Rome will be getting a new

(36:31):
deal that will definitely be more than DJ's current contract. Plus,
since Rome is younger and a rookie deal, we could
get more back downside, as Rome seems to have a
better all connection with Caleb than DJ does. In your opinion,
which is better? I want to do really quick, bring
up Rome missed a bunch of games with injuries. So

(36:53):
if I go to the Bears and I go to
the stat page, the leading receiver for the Chicago Bears
is the postseason. Let's go regular season. It's what I
would have guessed Colson Lovelin, who had fifty eight catches,
six touchdown. That's a great rookie season. Seven of your
yard I'm that guy, and I bet it really blew

(37:14):
up towards the end. DJ had fifty for six and
Rome had forty four for six, And both of them
had similar yards, and both of them had DJ's a
little lower on the yards per catch. They both have
similar yards after catch. That's a great question. I think
you make them in a weird way, both available and

(37:36):
just see what the market is for them both, I
would guess. I mean DJ Moore he's got to be
a close to thirty. He's twenty eight. He'll be twenty
nine next season. Rome's age and just how you know
recently he was drafted he'll be twenty four next season.
Probably has more value. But I mean this is a

(37:57):
guy two years into his career. Like I he was
drafted ninth. Overall, you're not getting a first round pick
for Roma Dunay right now. So would you trade him
for a second when DJ Moore or would you rather
have his cheap contract for another couple more years? You
do have to decide next year, I you're gonna pick

(38:18):
up his fifth year option. You know, DJ, I would
imagine is under contract for a couple more years. Yeah,
it's complicated. I think you make them both available, and
you just kind of see what the market is for both.
I would guess that DJ Moore at twenty eight, twenty eight,
that's his cap hit the next couple of years. It's

(38:39):
a little complicated. I mean, I guess you could get
DJ an extension if you're another team. Rome would have
more value just because he's younger and teams would have
had really high draft picks on him or high draft
grades on him. So I think you can probably get
a second round pick for romadonsday. DJ probably not given
his age, third contract, declining production, not all his fault,

(39:03):
but Rome would have more value on the open market.
It's kind of risky, like you trade him and he
goes on to be really good somewhere else. It's hard
to kind of justify that the pressure. Let's just say
you trade him for some pick in the fifties. If
you nail like a starting middle linebacker, no one will care.

(39:25):
I've been getting a lot of these questions. I'm from
New Zealand. I'm wondering if a show can be watched
on the New Zealand version of Netflix. It's not what
the best way to watch listen to your show? If not,
what is the best way. Well, I didn't realize this,
which I guess makes sense. I thought everyone like if
I was in London, or I was in New Zealand,

(39:48):
or I was in Australia or Brazil, I would just
watch Netflix. But I guess every Netflix is different depending
on the country, and right now our broadcast or our
episodes are only hosted on Netflix USA. I have a
little running notepad that I'm probably gonna wait like a
month to fire to my The Netflix people who have

(40:10):
been really cool. I mean they sent me baby stuff.
It's headphones and all sorts of stuff. But must be
doing hopefully pretty well that I have some ideas. Obviously
they're getting new to the game. I've been in the
podcast game for a decade, so I didn't know that
till last week when people reached out. We have an
international audience, which is cool, but right now it's only

(40:31):
in Netflix America. This is a podcast, so it's Apple Spotify.
That's how this whole thing started, and that's our business
model started with the audio. We've shifted the video and audio,
but Apple Spotify. You can listen anywhere in the world,
but right now, video wise, only Netflix America, which again
It never crossed my mind that that even I just

(40:51):
assumed Netflix was just Netflix. Can we make a deal
for next season. Let's agree to only call Herbert the
Charger starting quarterback until he wins a playoff game. I
can't unsee it anymore. Regular season hero and then turns
into playoff zero. He's like the James Harden to quarterbacks,
you can only put up three points versus the Patriots.
It's not like he was playing the two Bucks. The

(41:12):
New England defense I'm sure is respectable, but the players
on it, even Madden enthusiasts enthusiasts, can't name Herbert. Excuse me.
The Chargers started quarterback is on the second contract and
as multiple postseason flops, and before you give me all
the reasons and excuses in the world, the franchise quarterback
overcomes problems and deficiencies, So just giving us a list

(41:33):
proves my point. Heck, even Party won a playoff game
after losing Kittle in quarter one. There's no disputing Party
like has Like. If you're just talking like Clutch and
coming through, you have more faith in brock Purty than
you do justin Herbert. Listen, he's s why Harbaugh just
hired a guy that wears capris and Gucci sunglasses. You know,
when you think Jim Harbaugh, you don't think Mike McDaniel

(41:54):
little desperation because Megan Justin Herbert look good is really
really important. So there is a lot of pressure on
Mike McDaniel and Justin Herbert next year. And it really
starts with Justin Herbert. Mike McDaniel made to it look good?
Think about that? To what look good? Any lead the
league in passing? Like three years ago before we got
ct Hey, John, big fan of the podcast from Australia,

(42:16):
Breath of Fresh Air hearing it takes? Can you confirm
your video content will be available on Netflix international markets?
If not? Yeah, international, We're not international right now. So
I have some thoughts. Like I've said, I have a
little notepad, I got a lot of no pads going
Dad diary, notepads, takes, notepads, Netflix idea, no pads read

(42:38):
Hastings should just hit me up because I've I know
this podcast world well started from zero. Now we're here,
so I have a pretty good idea of what works
and doesn't. But even just basic things that I've just
kind of kept an eye on because I just you
guys reach out to me. I'm part of my grassroots

(42:59):
research comes from comes from DMPs and people hitting me
up things I haven't thought about, and then I turned
them into take some of my own. So I appreciate
you guys, couch for the back. Ben Johnson obsession with
Collin shotgun runs on third and short. All the conversation
is gonna be around this fourth down decision, but its
third down calls are horrendous. I feel like he gets
stuck in his head four down territory. I hate shotgun runs.

(43:21):
I hate not running Caleb. I just Ben Johnson was
a stud this year. But I'm with you. I think
the obsession with going forward on fourth down there should
never be a time in your life besides like I
treat people well right or be nice to people like
something that never changes. You should always be open to

(43:42):
different ideas. And I believe that Ben Johnson and Dan
Campbell whenever they decided in a meeting room years ago
in Detroit that no matter what we go was something
that they believe to their soul that they haven't even
thought about changing, which to me is crazy. It's like

(44:04):
the math, guys, there's no convincing him that they could
be wrong. It's like, guys, we're not on an Excel spreadsheet.
These are human beings. No, I'm telling you this is
no matter what. No, no, guys, this is not a
good idea. Plus, if you are gonna go for it,
you have this quarterback who is built like a tank
and can fucking fly. Why don't you run him? I

(44:27):
do not, And I'm not trying to act like I
know more football than Ben Johnson. I think Ben Johnson's
a stut like he's even today his press conference was like,
can you build on next year? He's like, there's no
building on next year? And he's right. You start back
at square one every single year. Now you build on
it because your player's improved. But like you go to OTAs,
you just start back at running the most basic plays

(44:50):
and then build your way up. That's what the Patriots do,
That's what the Chiefs do. That's what Ben John's gonna do.
So and plus the average turnover in the NFL roster wise,
this is not the NBA. I mean, most people are
anywhere between twenty five to thirty five percent. Some teams,
if you get new coaches will like flip half the roster.
So the turnover is immns in football, cap casualties, trades,

(45:16):
new draft picks, so you just get brand new players.
You know, it's not the same team. They're gonna be
guys like DJ Moore could just not be there, Cole
Komet could just not be there. Right. Uh, They're gonna
have brand new players on defense. So from square one, like,
it's kind of true. What was your question? Oh the upset.

(45:37):
I just don't understand why he doesn't run Caleb they
did with Josh Allen a quarterback power, Like, why wouldn't
you just install a quarterback power because the other thing
is Caleb smart? Like it when the last time Caleb
took a big hit, It's not like he's getting molly
wopped running around. I don't get it. Do you know
if Netflix plans on making popodst user friendly, I can't

(46:01):
lock my screen and listen like I used to. I
took a screenshot of this question for the mailbag because
I was confused. I can listen to my I listened
to the Tom Brady interview with the spit and chick
Lick guys, just like I would on the other platforms
or even a podcast form. I clicked it off and
it would just use press play and you listening in

(46:23):
your pocket. I did that last week, and I've had
my team. We all looked at everyone's doing it. So
when I saw this, you can lock your phone and
listen to it. It stops sometimes immediately and then just
hit play and it shows up with my iPhone. It does,
so I have not had an issue with that. Yeah,

(46:44):
that's that would be my take on that thought. If
you were Woody Johnson, wouldn't you be begging Bill and
Josh to come to the Jets? Well, why would Josh?
I think you're me and Josh McDaniels. Why would Josh
ever get with Bill? Again? Bill's a sinking ship like
part of life, you know, in the real world in business, like,

(47:08):
once you disassociate with something that's going the wrong way,
like you don't run back to it, and once you
get involved in something that's working, you kind of double
down in it. So to me, Josh, even if he
had the opportunity, would be out of his mind to
join Belichick with the Jets and leave rabel in May.

(47:28):
I personally think Belichick's unhireable, I really do. I didn't
say that a year ago, a lot's changed. This year
in North Carolina was a complete embarrassment. It really was,
and part of it's her, but like she's part of
him now that there's no way around it, you have
this like seventy five year old former legend that has

(47:49):
lost his fastball and we just saw I think the
Pete Carroll situation makes it even worse. Bill's a huge
ego guy. I think Bill is untouchable. I really do.
And it's crazy to say. I'm not a Belichick hater.
I idolize the Patriots in terms of like how they
ran anyone I've ever met there, I always just pepper

(48:12):
them with questions, fascinated by it. I think what they
stood for and did for twenty years is one of
the coolest things in my sports watching career. And Bill
and anyone that will tell you that was around there
is a main driver of it, but that cars crashed
and that thing's over. I hear you and Colin say

(48:33):
Trevor does not have a great arm in terms of strength,
but not saying I disagree, But what specifically makes y'all
say that. I get that he doesn't have a rocket
like Caleb on a consistent basis, But I feel like
you can make every throw. Not having a big arm
doesn't mean you can't make every throw. Dak Prescott can
make every throw. And when you say every throw, I

(48:54):
don't mean ad lib on the run Caleb throws. I
just mean can you throw the deep out? Can you
throw the deep post? Can you throw a go route? Like?
Alex Smith could make every throw, Kirk Cousins could make
every throw, Josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes, Caleb, you know, Kyler Murray.
Some of these guys just do it much better with
much more power. So Trevor has a fine arm. Trevor

(49:17):
has like most quarterbacks in the NFL, good arm, Like
he has an NFL standard. You can function with it.
And when he really lets it rip, like he can
drive throws. Was it the playoff game that he drove
the throw in the back of the end zone? It
was a dot. I wouldn't say as if we're ranking
one to ten right in fives, just kind of middle
ground like zero or one would be like Dylan Gabriel,

(49:39):
you know, four or five would be like Alex Smith,
seven would be like Baker Mayfield. Right, I'd say like nine, ten.
Once you start getting Mahomes and Josh and Caleb and
guys like Farv Peyton Manning was like a four or five.
You don't need a great arm to be a great player.
I would say Trevor probably is a sick would be

(50:03):
and there's nothing wrong with that. What do you think
of Amazon bringing back Al Michaels to call their games? Uh,
Thursday Night football? It's really important, I think to the
league to have Thursday Night and Monday Night be a
big deal. So years ago when the Monday Night Crew

(50:28):
when grew to went back to the Raiders, it fell apart,
and ESPN took a lot of pressure from the NFL
of like, you got to fix this. If you want
Super Bowls, if you want our best games, this gotta
be big league. It cannot be little league. So what
did ESPN do? They gave like thirty million dollars a
year combined? Was Troy make like eighteen? Buck makes twelve

(50:49):
for Fox's number one team? What did Amazon do when
they first got the NFL? They hired Al Michaels, one
of the most legendary play by play guys ever, so
a big dame. The problem is Marv Albert is one
of the greatest play by play guys as well. At
the end, Marv couldn't see what was going on. And
basketball is different than football. But I remember watching so

(51:11):
many games on TNT and like Marv's lost it. It's
like Linscombe used to throw ninety seven. Now he throws
eighty two, and Marv was throwing about fifty. I don't
know if I was throwing fifty. But he doesn't have
his fastball anymore, which is understandable. He's in his eighties.
So I think that broadcast. I don't think anyone would

(51:32):
complain if you just hired Guy Haberman and some famous player,
Philip Rivers, I know Philip wouldn't do it, Drew Brees, whatever,
it'd be fine. But I think the star power of
Al Michaels is something like clearly they really like, which
I would totally understand if Al was still in his
prime and his prime went pretty long. But his prime's over.

(51:56):
And I've you know, studied broadcasters, and I don't I
mean like podcasters or even radio hosts, but watching guys
career in people he has to kind of navigate through
and try to get jobs. They never give it up.
Play by play guys never give up the mic. Greg
Papa fought leukemia, fought leukemia literally during the football season

(52:24):
and still came back for a game. That's just the
way they're wired. Because in play by play gigs, if
someone else sits there, it's not like Al was like, yeah,
just filled by spot like he did any thinking like that,
And at this point in time is Al Michaels need
the money. So I just think it's the wiring of
play by play people. They will never give up the microphone.

(52:46):
Radio people when I worked in radio, are kind of
like that, like they were uncomfortable taking vacation because guess
what happens someone fills in for you. What happens then, well,
what if the rating book goes up? That's how I
got hired in radio. I filled in and the timeslot
I filled in did really well ratings wise. So my

(53:08):
boss it's not like he cared or liked me anymore
than the next guy, but it was just a numbers thing.
He's like, well, if I make this guy the host,
we could do a higher number. So, you know, play
by play guys not based necessarily on that, but people
just don't give up the mic. So I would love
someone else in there. But they're very loyal to this crew,

(53:30):
which I just I like Herbstreet on College. I don't
really want to watch him on Thursday night. It has
nothing against him. I just would like an NFL guy there.
Maybe I discriminate against him because I view him as
a Saturday guy, but it kind of matters to me,
and I don't just need any I just would ideally
like someone good. The problem is they tried. Remember they

(53:52):
tried years ago. They thought they'd get Sean McVay or
John Lynch, and they turned They offered a both like
fifteen million dollars. They both turned it down. Sean almost went,
which if he wins the Super Bowl, he will one
not regret. Huge fan. I started my first office job

(54:24):
a few years ago, and discovering your podcast gets me through.
Appreciate you listening while you're grinding in the office. I
know the seventeenth game is a rotating interconference game based
on previous years standings, but I think it was major
missed opportunity by the NFL. It would have been a
lot cooler if they made it a set interconference opponent

(54:45):
each year, like Added Arrival. There are already so many
natural AFC NFC rivalries Dallas, Houston, Philly, Pittsburgh, jess Giants,
et cetera. Any non natural matchups would immediately become natural
rival due to familiarity. They could even play twice in
years that the divisional rotations run into each other. I

(55:08):
didn't know if you realize that, to me is the
reason they don't do it. You can't. They wouldn't want
an intercom or you know, AFC NFC matchup twice in
a season, so you play. If I'm Dallas, I play
Houston every four once every four years, right, it rotates.
I play all the divisions on a rotating basis. Well

(55:29):
the year when I play the AFC South, if I'm
the NFC East, I can't be playing the Texans twice.
I can't go like Giants, Texans, Eagles, Commanders, Texans like that. That.
You can't. The league ain't gonna do that because I
don't know if there are enough. Right, Okay, you brought

(55:50):
up some good ones. You go Niners, Raiders, You could
go Jags or Dolphins, Bucks. I mean you could, but
what does Seattle do? What does what does Arizona do?
What does you know? You start going like Minnesota, Like

(56:10):
I don't know, I think it gets a little more
complicated with some of the teams. I hear what you're saying.
It would be cool if the Jets and the Giants
and the Chargers in the RAMS, the Niners and the
Raiders and the Cowboys and the Texans played every year.
But that's just that's never gonna happen because, like you said,
the divisional rotation, you couldn't have a season where they

(56:30):
played each other twice. Can you imagine if we had
to watch the Jets and the Giants twice this year?
Holy shit? How do player incentives work? Do teams have
a set money aside and separate from the salary cap
to account for the season incentives? I think they. I'm
pretty sure they roll over the following year. So if

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you pay, let's just pick a number five million dollars
incentives to all your different players, right, let's say it's ten.
It rolls over to the cap the following year. Is to
my knowledge, because obviously most teams are against the cap
on the given season, so it doesn't stay on that cap.
It's it rolls over to the next year. Question for

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the pod, do you plan on doing a preseason preview
on go Lo expectation for the majors, new names to
look out for any chance. The PGA just lets Kopka
back in right away. I just with the baby, the
go Lo. We have separated it different podcast feed on
the audio and we have a video platform as well.

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I just haven't had any time. You know. They kicked
off last week the Sony Open. Chris got her up.
Who was incredible. He looks pretty good, just won. This
week they're playing in Pump Springs. Scotti's in the field.
I will plan on. Usually I get kicked up with
golf right after the super Bowl. It's just I mean,
I'm kind of bored. I would have done it today,

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but I just I gotta be with my family, gotta
be present with my son. I just haven't had much time,
but I've been following. I was looking at like, uh,
you know, Max Home is like one hundred and twenty
to one. I'm like, did I take him top ten?
Like ten to one? So I had the Sony Open
on last week in the office with the football game,
I just I will do some stuff probably in a

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couple of weeks, for sure. I'm a big fan. All
My older brother just had his first child at Christmas,
and I brought him a tiny Dallas Cowboy jersey as
I'm a Cowboy fan myself and want him to join.
The misery question, if you had to choose the NFL
team for your newborn, who would you choose? Make a
pick taking into account future success prospects, not jumping on

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the bandwagon. I'm a big believer, and happens organically, Like
why did I grow up liking the San Fransco Giants,
the San Fransco forty nine Ers, the Sacramento Kinks Because
I grew up in Davis, California. Right if I would
have been born in Lancaster or Pennsylvania or Hoboken, New Jersey,

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I would have gravitated toward the Eagles, the Giants, the Mets,
the Phillies. What most human beings are a product of
where they live. Now, that's where I draw the fucking line.
I wouldn't let my son be an Arizona Cardinal fan
if there was money coming my way. That will not
be tolerated. Unless the Bidwell family sells, we get a

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real guy that then we could be open. But I
can't control what he likes. With who's to say that
he even likes sports. I hope he does, but there's
no guarantee. What if he likes you know, my brother's
like big duck Hunter just wan duck hunting and Ido
like this stuff that I don't like. You just never know,
kid the kid, what people are gonna gravitate toward what

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they're gonna like. We all have different likes than our
own siblings, so I don't know. I mean, what if
he likes to paint, hope he's fucking Picasso. I hope
he likes football. I definitely hope he likes golf so
we can play a lot and get out of the house.
Uh be awesome. I won't even need an excuse for
like me and Jacker head of the course. But there's

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just no guarantee. I mean shit, I was reading them
a book today. I had to have explained. Shows you
how out of the loop I am with kids. The
black and white books. You know, they don't see color.
So I was just reading them the book like here's
the fish, here's the star. And she looks at me.
She's like, you know, you have to put that in
front of his face so he can see the pictures.
I'm like, uh, new, dad didn't know that but so

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I did that. You know, it's like here's the shark.
You just never know. We got a long way to go.
We're not even seven days into this bad boy, but
Cardinal's not allowed. I'd be open to whatever. I would
tend to lean in pro sports. Just there's no I
mean football, you never know. I mean it's by the
time he's ten, Josh Allen will be retired. I would

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like him to be something fun. Quick question. Do you
think the future we'll see more teams opt to fire
their current non offensive head coach in lieu of the
whiz kid offensive coordinator. Lions are missing Ben Johnson, they
had him in the building. I think it's easier said
than done, Like, what are you gonna do? Fire Dan Campbell?
Last year after being the number one seed? What are
you gonna do? Fire? You know? I mean, is Kellen

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Moore even a better coach than Sirianni? But okay, Kellen
Moore over Sirianni. It's Todd Bowles last year they were
in the playoffs. Youre gonna fire him? For Liam Cohen.
I think it's way easier said than done. I really
do so. I it will happen. There will be a
situation where it happens. I just think it's very, very difficult.

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If like you were just in the AFC Championship game,
you're like, our guy's a whiz kid, He's gonna get hired.
I mean, look, look at the Falcons. Do you think
years ago, like looking back, they should have just hired
Kyle Shanahan. But how are you gonna hire Kyle Shanahan
fire Dan Quinn. I mean, it happens constantly. I just
think it's easier said than done, and it's also easier

(01:01:56):
after the fact. Question for the bail back whether there's
truly a dominant team in college basketball, we always ask
the question, could they beat an NBA team? Could it happened?
And it seems the answer is always unequivocally no. I'm
wondering if this is the same for college football. As

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dominant as Indiana has been this season and especially in
the playoffs, would they or any dominant college team like
nineteen LSU with Burrow have a chance to win a
game against an awful NFL team like this year's Titans,
Raiders Jets. I think it depends if you told me

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the end of the year, for like a one or
two year win team and their players are injured, and
you're rolling out a bunch of practice squad guys and
you gave me an all time great college team. It
would have to be loaded both sides of the ball
with pros. I would say, yeah, I'd give you a
shot now week one, when people are healthy like the Raiders.

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The Raiders are drafting number one. Week one, the Raiders
fully healthy, Brock Bauers, Max Crosby, Gino Smith, Jacoby Myers,
Ashon Genty. The Indiana would get killed. Max Crosby would
dominate that game. How would they cover brock Bowers In
fair to people in the NFL, can't cover Indiana's you

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know that corner that is he a small school guy
like Kent State or whatever. They got pretty good. But
think about this, Miami in that game would actually have
a better chance than Indiana. Why because they have way
more pros on the offensive indefensive line. The crazy part
about Indiana is beside Mendoza, some people will say they

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don't have a top one hundred player, Sarat going in
the top seventy five, the corners five to nine, probably not.
I don't know if the left tackles coming out, Who's
the offensive line of the year. Most people view him
as a guard. Running backs are solid, but what are
they third day picks, so they're probably a bad example.

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Some of like the Sweet Ohio State teams LSU, I
don't think it was good enough on defense. Bama would
probably be. You'd need defense as much as offense. Like
if you had a great offense like LSU, but your
defense they had Stingley, but and I think they had
Patrick Queen too, you wouldn't need you know, bamad teams
where or Georgia. It's like nine of our guys were

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first rounders and had ten year careers in the NFL,
and four of them were Pro Bowlers. But again, you
would have to play the worst team at the end
of the year when they all their backups and practicall
guys were playing like the Jets. There's no way Indiana
or Miami could beat the Jets week one. I mean
week one, they had Sauce, they had Quinn Williams, they

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had Garrett Wilson, they had Breise Hall, even justin Field's
running around. They had multiple high picks on their offensive line,
multiple pass rushers. You'd have no chance. But like who
won India you think Indiana could Jeffrey Simmons on the Titans,
But at the end of the year, when they're playing
with a bunch of guys that aren't gonna be in

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the NFL next year. Yeah, I'd be open to it.
I really would. NBA, I think it would be a
lot harder, but look at the NBA now, a third
of the league is tanking. When I was the cafeteria
was like downstairs it was actually actually was pretty shitty.
At the hospital. There were Starbucks down there as well.
When I was walking, I saw Lamello Ball actually walked

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by twice and immediately think, like, are the Suns trading
for this guy? Could I be Sham's right now and
break news? And I think he was just getting his
ankle check because they were in LA one day and
then Golden State the following day, so maybe stopped in
Phoenix at the hospital. I don't know, but it was
something I was like, that's LaMelo Ball way bigger in person,
like that's a big fucking dude. Say this about LeVar

(01:05:51):
gotta produce some kids. A couple of NBA players and
a rapper. Props to the LeVar Ball audios. Talk to
you later. The volume