3 & Out - Reaction to Fernando Mendoza & Indiana DESTROYING Oregon in CFP Semifinal

Former NFL scout John Middlekauff & Jackson Groff are reacting LIVE immediately following the College Football Playoff Semifinal matchup between the University of Indiana Hoosiers football vs. the University of Oregon Ducks football. John and Jackson will react to the biggest plays of the night, breaking news around the sport of college football, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume What is going on? Everybody? John middlecof three
and Out podcast. How are we doing a little Friday

(00:21):
night extravaganza because the Indiana Hoosiers are fifteen to zher
and they're headed to the National Championship to take on
Miami where they are a seven and a half point
favorite against the Miami Hurricanes who have a home game,
and feels right because Indiana is incredible. So tonight I'll

(00:42):
be joined by Jackson, producer Jackson, who is actually at
the ol Miss Miami game last night, who boots on
the ground, who's talking to Michael Irvin, taking pictures with
Andre Johnson and Edrin James, living it up with the
U and ol Miss people.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
So we'll we'll.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Have him join the show tonight and we'll talk a
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(01:22):
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You guys know the drill, And hopefully you guys have

(01:43):
a great weekend and me and Jackson will talk a
little college football from Fernando Mendoza, Dante more Signetti to
the NFL. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on tonight,
so excited to talk a little college football. Jackson. Listen.
We've seen Indiana against Alabet. I think we all chocked
it up. Okay, Alabama's not that good. Obviously, Oregon had

(02:05):
some running back issues. They have some injuries, but they
treated in the night like they were playing UC Davis
Week two, you know, in a game that no one's
paying attention to in Bloomington. That was these last two games.
You'd go the last three games the Ohio State win,
but that was a true football game, right, It was
a slugfest. They pulled it out. It was biggest winning

(02:27):
program history. These last two weeks, it's felt like, I
don't know, peak Bama. I update myself. Maybe Urban Meyer
at Florida, Pete Carroll at USC they obliterate. And the
difference is comparing Indiana to those teams. Those teams were
littered with just first and second rounders. You remove Fernando Mendoza.

(02:51):
You know, I talked to people in the NFL. They're like, well,
they got Sarad the running back, the corner, the pick six,
the left tackle. It's viewed as a guard. I mean,
they got a handful of guys that are gonna get
drafted third, fourth, fifth round. The linebacker viewed more like
a You know, I think this is gonna sound bad,
just a guy, but talk about a late round pick

(03:12):
or an undrafted free agent. This is not Georgia three
years ago, where ten of their starters on defense are
gonna get drafted in the first two rounds. So I
think when you factor in the lack of five Stars
Signetti with the Google me it's it's been incredible to
witness and tonight piggybacking off Alabama is truly one of

(03:34):
the biggest ass kicking two game stretches. Now, we haven't
had the playoffs for two years, and who knows, maybe
we'll see this again. But I am all I can
do is be like, holy shit, this team is good.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah. I looked up the CFP history to see, like,
what was the biggest blowout in the college ball playoff
and this was obviously what thirty four points? Thirty five
points was the Peach Bowl with LSU and Oklahoma back
in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, And it feels like those teams,
obviously they're gonna get the comparisons about who's better twenty
nineteen LSU or twenty twenty five Indiana. I don't know
the answer because of this the star studded talent NFL

(04:10):
prospects of twenty nineteen LSU. But I do think if
you were to remove the logo of Indiana and put
an Alabama logo on there, then you have that discussion.
But it's just remarkable, Like they had the whole piece
beforehand about all these guys coming from JMU and how
they were so underrecruited for the portal, and you've got
these guys, even the running backs tonight, not black, but
Hemby was a three star back coming out of the

(04:30):
transfer portal, fifteenth running back. They grabbed him, and then
you see the guys that they're grabbing today.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
In the last couple of weeks. Where did he come from?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
He came from Maryland, So he was a four year
starter at Maryland, played forty nine snaps, So I mean
forty nine starts, I should say, just a productive back.
But to have those two guys eleven and fourteen on
third down, I mean, you just get more and more
impressed by this team. They're just so they say it
all the time, Simon perfect, fundamentally sound. But to be
able to develop these guys that quick, like I haven't
seen anything like it. And even you know, the broadcasters

(04:59):
Greg Macker I said it was one of the best fundamental,
fundamentally sounded teams that he's ever broadcasted. And you know,
you followed the sport for a long long time than me.
I don't think that there's an argument to saying that
because this team just doesn't make mistakes.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well offensively, that they feel like a well oiled NFL
machine because they can run the ball down your throat,
you know, a lot like Miami, right, they could physically
dominate you at the point of attack and run the
ball at you with multiple backs. Hemby is really good.
The back of Black who I mean tonight had outrushed him.
He's a really he's a good player too, So I

(05:34):
mean that they're one two punch at running back is
high level for college football. Again, this isn't Jeremiah Love right,
Christian McCaffrey. These guys aren't gonna be John Robinson. But
both of them are going to get shots in the NFL.
Especially I think henb will be late round pick on
drafted free agent, but undrafted free agents make teams all
the time. The difference between them and Miami is they're

(05:57):
well rounded passing game. You know, Mendoz is a better
player than Carson Beck. But they got three wide receivers, right,
so rot who's going to play in the NFL for sure?
And Becker has really really come on tonight. I don't
know if that's a better throw, better catch, just a
great play, right, that's ideal pitch and catch. I mean,
that's the guy. It's not like it was terrible. It's

(06:18):
not like a tripped I mean he's right there, his
hands up. It just doesn't get a better throw. And
obviously Cooper is just you feel like makes plays in
the red zone. He he's just I mean, so him
being healthy, which he got injured right in that Ohio
State game. The first series, they feel like a well
balanced attack on offense and then defensively. What did they
mentioned in tonight the defensive coordinator when he first I

(06:41):
mean both the coordinators started working for Signeto. I think
what's cool is part of Sabin or Pete Carroll or
urban Meyer. They started getting these, especially Sabin and Pete Carroll,
these really famous coordinators. Back when I was young, when
you were Blake five, Pete used to have guys like
obviously he had Laine and Sark who were in their twenties,
but he had like Norm Ch I mean, he had

(07:01):
some really well known older guys. Sabin forever had famous
guys being coordinators, former head coaches like Mario is known
to the Sabing guy. It's because Mario had coached like
Fau and failed and then went to Nick. Right Lane
had been at USC then goes to Nick. So Signetti's
doing with these two guys who have worked for him

(07:22):
the entire time. The defensive coordinator was making like six
thousand dollars at their first stop and was on food
stamps and then they're like, yeah, you just signed a
contract three million dollars a year, three years, nine million
deark contract the offensive coordinator. Maybe he gets cause I
start thinking, how does the offense the defensive coordinator and
not make the same amount? Maybe because Signetti's an offensive guy,

(07:44):
even though to me, at least from the outside, he
feels much more like, I don't know, like the CEO
of the entire operation, Like I envisioned him talking with
the defensive guys, the offensive guys, but his baby's the
offense clearly, and both of those guys, Mike Shanahan, you
see those guys with the walkie talkies. This is the

(08:05):
difference if their logo, let's just pick the conference was Oregon,
was Penn State, was Michigan, Ohio State and they had
the same success for two years. How have both those
guys not gotten ten interviews?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's what I was gonna ask you, because like, what's
the Because on the flip side of it, you got
Will Stein, who's gonna be the new coach at Kentucky,
and then you got toshwall Poy who's gonna go to
cow And I'm not disminishing them as bad coaches. They're
gonna be transitioning fine, and they've had great times in
great tenures at Oregon. But I'm shocked that they don't
even get an interview at think we're like a drum.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
To night by those two guys. Now, Tosh and Will.
Tosh has been famous for a long time. He played
for Tedford transition and became like one of Tedford's like
Mario Christobal for Saban for Tedford back in the late
two thousands, getting dudes Marshawn, DeShawn, Cameron Jordan like they

(08:57):
were producing and then and then he works for Saban.
So Tosh has been a very famous kind of name
in the cycle, and he got hired at his alma mater.
I would say, Will Stein, he's been a relatively famous
offensive coordinator now for several years. At let's face it
a sexier program, well not now, I mean Indiana's the

(09:17):
sexiest program going. So I would say going into next year,
even if I'm not gonna bet on them taking a
step back, but let's just say they go nine to
three next year. After winning, let's say they win the
national championship. You have to interview these two guys because
they've worked with this guy who feels much more like
he's a drill sergeant for the Navy Seals than he does.

(09:38):
Like even Saban was pretty unique personality on the sideline,
he does not show very much emotion like he's and
clearly it's his age. I listen, anytime that you have
to go through the mud to get where you're at,
I think you have perspective like this is how old's
Dan Lanning?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
My forty years old?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
My age? Yeah, you know he pretty quick riser. I mean,
what year is this nowt Oregon? For before that he
was Kirby's DC. Like he's been living the charm life
throughout his thirties, right. I know it's hard for him early,
but to dad, he's sixty four years old. A lot
of time at IUPI or wherever the hell he was.
Obviously JMU was going pretty well. But even when you

(10:17):
kick acid JMU, no one's discussing you. On college game day,
maybe you get a blurb, right, but so what he's
done in his name in this program, But again, you
just watch them play. I think going into the NFL playoffs,
maybe the Jags. I don't think there's just a team

(10:39):
in football college or the NFL that's just playing as
complete football as them defense. Offensively, they blocked the punt tonight.
I mean, what are they not doing well? It's it's
shocking when they had to punt shocking, and you could
tell they kind of got conservative right started running the
ball in the second half. So is he are they
truly pushing the pedal to the metal, like running crazy plays?

(11:01):
Like the game you were at last night, Every third
and five was make or break in the game. So
you're running your best plays. You come out a halftime
up thirty five to seven. I mean, when your defense
is good, it's going to be basically impossible to beat you.
But that was I don't know if I didn't respect them,
because it's impossible not to when you blow out a

(11:23):
playoff team as they did in Alabama. Even if Alabama's down,
I'll blow it away. After tonight, that first half is
that's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen.
I mean, seriously, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, but
factoring in the stars and listen, it's not I was
at Fresno State. If you go back to the teams,

(11:44):
I was a part of an eight h nine. We
would have had fifteen guys getting poached by Texas USC
multiple guys that would have got seven figures. So just
because you're not a five star guy, that doesn't determine.
But to just take all these guys and kick everyone
ascid at the highest level is is a crazy experience
as a viewer.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
I think it was crazy too, just to see the
buy in from Indiana, how fast it was. I mean,
it was a home game in Atlanta and we were
texting beforehand. You know, it's the National champions is going
to be in Miami. The tickets like three thousand dollars,
the cheapest one thing thirty two thirty two hundred dollars,
what you sent. I wouldn't be shocked. I know it's
in Miami, and Miami actually showed out well last night
against Ole miss I wanted to be shocked. If Indiana

(12:25):
had what sixty forty at that game, fifty.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Five going to like, don't got a factor in two things.
They have more alumni. Miami's a smaller school WRI It's private,
smaller private school, number one alumni base in the country.
It was coming out and most of the schools are
the big ten schools because they're huge, ASU sleeper. It
was like five, and Indiana's just it's a good school,
a lot of successful people. My guess is that number.

(12:51):
When's the game next Monday, by next weekends close to five.
It's gonna be huge.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
We gotta wait eleven days for the National Championship.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Which is good because my I saw Mario. I think
their teams kind of beat up.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah yeah, they're really beat up. Now they're not gonna
have They're in trouble. They're in trouble.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah, they are in trouble.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
In their defensive line. Two against Ole Miss was pretty quiet,
which I'm looking forward to obviously. You know, we'll talk
about Miami Indiana, just to see that defensive line against
his Indiana offensive line. I just don't know offensively for
Indiana what they're bad at. I do not understand what
they're bad at. He's a good decision maker. They had
five penalties, which I think is one of the more
higher penalty games they've had in the last couple of weeks.

(13:29):
I mean, five is not horrible, but compared to the
most of the games they play, I think it's like
two or three or four. But yeah, the emergency Becker.
It also didn't help that Dante Moore at three turnovers.
I mean that pick six, that first play, yikes, and
then the two fumbles with the exchange with the running back,
and you know they obviously have running back issues because
Lamar hits the portal. Two days ago, Davison gets his

(13:52):
claviical broken against Texas Tech, even though he still played.
I don't know how he played with the broken clavicle.
When that happened, Hill looked off, no no wah. Winnington,
their first leading running back had turf toe, and they
showed his bandage on the sideline. It looked like you
didn't even have a cleat on, like his bandage was
so big. But regardless of that, like we saw them
beat Texas Tech. You saw the line up three points

(14:13):
and I'm right, like, you're right. It's one of the
more impressive things. And they made Dante Moore look really right.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
So let's talk about the two quarterbacks because I think
going into this game, Fernando Mendoza was a consensus number
one overall pick. He's bigger, he's more accurate, and he's
got a lot more experience. I think tonight the Raiders
general manager was in the house. I don't even think
it's a question. Now, I'm not putting everything on more

(14:40):
the last two weeks. I mean that their team is
not as good as India's Super easy. He's not. It's
not apples to apples. Their offensive line clearly he's not
playing that well. Their wide receivers are questionable. Their running
back situation was a joke to start with the pick six.
He ain't the first and the last guys throwing a
pick six. Peyton Manning threw a pick six in Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'm not gonna like end the guy's career. But one
thing you see with Fernando Mendoza, it kind of hit
me in to night because I know Daniel Jeremiah throughout
Matt Ryan, people been throwing to me Matt Ryan wasn't
a good athlete, right, And Fernando Mendoza and his col
background Jared Goff. When you look back, Jared Goff was
a pure pocket passer. Now, the world was a lot

(15:20):
different when he came out in twenty fourteen or fifteen.
But I think Fernando Mendoza, like Matt Ryan, like Jared Goff,
similar arm. I mean good arm, not great on drive
throws that I think his last touchdown even McElroy was like, God,
that was a dot. You know he can drive it,
but he's got great touch, great accuracy, and he throws

(15:41):
a very nice deep boll. I mean he's proven that
the last three weeks, right, his deep ball, that big
game at Ohio State, multiple big deep shots tonight. That
deep ball was a thing of beauty in contested areas too.
Like NFL people, whether you're playing Oregon or whether you're
playing a D two team, they don't give a shit
when you hit wide open people because that's anyone should

(16:02):
be able to hit a wide open guy. It's contested catches.
I think he's the level of you know, Matt Ryan
was a third pickoff, but he's a way better athlete.
You saw him tonight run multiple times. He had the
one where he fumbled, he did the I think the
only reason did that the three sixty is because he
kind of got bumped off the spot, so he just
kind of continued.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I don't think that's that was like.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
His go to move. But to me, he's not some
all time great prospect because he doesn't, you know, Caleb
physically like talent wise or John Elway. His traits aren't
like elite elite, but he's a really really good prospect
and when you watch him play tonight, he's just in
complete control. Like his game. All the Shanahan type guys,

(16:49):
Kyle McVeigh, Lafleur, Kevin O'Connell, they would love this guy.
And he you know, Stefanski, the boots, the waggles, the accuracy,
and then every once in a while he's got to
make a play on your own. I think he's a
really really good number one overall pick. And if I
was a Raider fan and they got a lot of
them that are down and out because their team's been

(17:09):
so crappy, I'd be really excited. Like the high level guy,
he's big, solid, arm, accurate, ton of playing, experience, smartest shit,
clearly well liked by his teammates. Competitive. I mean, Mario,
who's you'd argue is the best recruiter in the country.
Hell SIGs right up there now too, they're recruiting a

(17:30):
little different kid. You know, Mario was on this guy.
Now turns out he knew his dad plays dad in
high school. But like, would they have taken Fernando? I'm
sure he's gonna get asked about it this week, Like
was it if he would have said, I'll come to
Miami over Indiana and now play with my brother, would
you have taken Fernando Mendoza over Beck. Now he's not
even if he would have, he's not gonna admit that

(17:51):
this week he needs Carson. But I do wonder inside
the meeting, like Mario and his OC, who would they
want it out of the two guys. I don't know.
In fairness, Fernando was not viewed like this accal so
no one, but this happens a lot. You go back
to Joe Burrow. Listen. I actually think Joe Burrow, Joe

(18:11):
Burrow's a great example, not great physical traits, He's just
an excellent player. I talked about this last night with
Tony as I was thinking about this today. Some people
on Earth and whether it's obviously in sports, there are
god given talents you need. You can't play wide receiver
if you're slow and fat, right, so you gotta be athletic,

(18:34):
you gotta have some speed traits. But clearly, whether he
played backyard football as a kid developed it. I don't
know playing soccer basketball like just the open feel. His
instincts to play football are elite. Tony was born to
play football. He could play in an NFL game right now,
because I'm not saying he'd be like an All pro

(18:54):
as an eighteen year old, but like his understanding of football,
you go from that Notre Dame game to where he
that now he's so much more comfortable playing against higher
It's like, God, he was like, I'm the best player
on the field. And you see Mendoza like his instincts
very very natural and a lot of instincts. And it's
like this in any industry. Some people, whether it's the

(19:16):
training they've had from youth, they whenever they get to
the spot where they got to perform, they are just
way better than whoever they're going up against. And this
goes for I think any industry, and Tony last night,
you just see it. Fernando Mendoza like guy was kind
of born to play quarterback in like an NFL style offense,

(19:37):
because that's what it looks like. It looks like an
NFL team, and he's kind of the orchestrator I thought
tonight he was. He looked like an NFL player and
the other guy who has shit going against him, I think, really,
you go back these last two games because listen, Texas
texts quarterback not any good. That's why they're paying a
ton of money. You see that they got a text

(19:58):
tech has a gift Cincinnati million dollars to buy the
kid out.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Oh I didn't see they had a.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Million dollar buyout. You know how Williams is going back now,
But if he had left, they were gonna do a
buy the We're gonna have to pay.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
They're gonna pay a buyout just to get them.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
So that's what they're willing to do to improve their course.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, that's easy. That's a little chat.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Just sh there, you go, here's a million and here's
five for the player. Just I just thought he looked
overwhelmed the wrung. It's just really difficult. He just looks
like a college player. And that's what the Jets would
look like all season long. And the difference is it
can derail your career. For every Sam Darnold. I think
Troy Aikman talked about this on the Monday Night game

(20:40):
or a week ago. A lot of guys get just
destroyed and you aren't able to overcome it. And Dante
more like, you get five million dollars to go back
or whatever your team's loaded. Uh my recommendation because clearly money,
you're gonna make money either way. I and a lot
of people have been saying this. I think he would
benefit a lot from going. I think it get ugly.

(21:02):
He could have one of those rookie seasons where it
could be it could be really, really bad, and I
think he you'd have to question watching him play these
last two games, is he just some locktop five pick.
You're kind of betting on the come and the potential
of like this, what it's gonna be. Where I'm not
betting on anything in Fernando. I just want Fernando to

(21:22):
play like he's playing and obviously the natural improvement. But
to me more watching these last two weeks's pretty risky.
And you know, I think if you're Oregon in a
weird way, you're kind of lucky because now he might,
you know, like just come back. But I think Fernando separate.
He was already separated, but clearly separated at night, and
now I think the conversation goes, hey, Dante, come back.

(21:45):
And I think I wonder if that's why Ty Simpson,
because I'm sure he could have made millions starting for somebody.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Right even if he was leaving Alabama, but he's also too.
It's weird because of Tie that he according to his dad,
he didn't get a report that it was gonna be
a second round. He's gonna be a first round guy.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Well.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Also, Carson Beck declared, cam Wore declared, I hope he
doesn't go through with it. The way he's talking in
the video. He even posted that he's going to go
through it. That seems like a mistake for his long
term NFL career. I agree with you for Dante more
and he could be one of those things you're saying.
Ty Simpson's dad said that they got to report that
he's going to be a first rounder. Yeah, that he
didn't get a second rounder, But I don't know if
it was through you would know the name of the

(22:21):
people that they go through to get those reports. Blessedo
or never really said the name of who they got
the advice from. So that's kind of suspect too. But
when you're talking about back to Mendoza, I was gonna
ask you this question because you know, friends talk a
lot a lot of times about Mendoza being a one
read guy or being in an RPO offense and only

(22:42):
being on a one side field read. What would your response,
Because to me, I see that, but I also see,
to your point, an instinctive guy where he knows where
to go with the football. It doesn't seem like he
goes to his first read and it's not there and
he's flustering with his eyes. He goes to his first
read and it's always there. So what would your argument
be to that in terms of the RPO offense translating
into the NFL, not necessarily the Raiders, but just in

(23:03):
terms of you know.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I thought there were times tonight where he went off
his first read to another guy. The last touchdown I
thought was not his first read in the back of
the end zone.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah.

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But I see the guy scanning the field and like,
is it NFL in terms of like, yeah, your first
receiver is gonnaet taken away a lot. You know that
he can trust Win, Serat or Becker is the number

(25:32):
one option.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
He can go to them.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
But I think, to me, part of that is football
IQ and the ability to, like, as you get thrust
more and more in those situations, how you go to that.
Cousins went on that rant how the NFL used to
be consistent defenses you just focus on half the field
and just listen to what the coach calls. That's completely

(25:56):
changed because everyone muddies the water with defense, and so
now it's be like a progression league. You basically go he'
said one to five, but I mean most people probably
going like one to three then check down or whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
He clearly to me has that style.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Honestly, Bet Carson watching Carson Beck last night on TV
on some slow motion stuff. He's doing that sometimes too,
because how do you get more comfortable? That's the hardest
part of the sport, right, Well, how do you accomplish
the hardest thing of whatever you're doing, You do it more.
Those guys have played a lot of football, and you
saw Dante Moore, who has not played that much.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I don't count his first year at UCLA.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
It was a joke. By that point in time, Chip
Kelly was in full mail it in mode and he
got thrust in because they had injuries. He was not
supposed to play. So it's like that was a disaster
throwing picks sixes left and right. This was his first
year really starting. And honestly, if we break it down,
like they did play some easy games because the Big

(26:55):
Ten on the lower end was bad. So in some
of his big games he only has so many variance
against good teams Tech Indiana, Indiana. Again, they didn't play
in the Big Ten championship Washington, Right, it was.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Solid, but I would say they were.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
They were a nine and three team that was, you know,
was farther away from the playoffs than closer to it.
In my opinion, USC wasn't very good on defense, So
I would say that I just have a lot more
question marks. And anytime you have a lot of question
marks when it comes to a quarterback who's young, that's
where you can get in some weird situations, like to me,

(27:34):
he comes back, wouldn't you immediately have him as a
top two or three like Heisman front runner and a
guy that is a potential number one overall pick in
twenty twenty seven Historically, you know, I think you know
back before when guys could pay under the table and
guys like him would stay right because he'd be a
red shirt junior next year. But now there is pressure.

(27:56):
I get it and start your clock. But the problem
with starting your clock is he's already a multi millionaire,
and any quarterback that's gonna go high, you should be thinking,
I'm gonna have a long career, right, I'm gonna be
even I'm not Mahomes, I'm gonna be Jared Goff, Dak Prescott,
Kirk Cousins, I'm gonna get multiple contracts and be a
decade long start. Derek Carr make hundreds of millions of dollars.

(28:20):
If you told me Dante Moore went to the Jets,
I'd be like, I would bet against it working and
it could just get really ugly and listen, same thing
could happen to Mendoza. And that's where I think there's
gonna be a lot of pressure, and I think the
conversation is gonna come up and we can talk about
Sig as well. It's like, should Sig go to the NFL?
See that a lot? He makes like over twelve million dollars.

(28:43):
He is his own GM like any player on that
roster he picks. He hasn't had to lose a coordinator
since he was at some school that no one could
point out on a map twenty years ago or fifteen years.
He's had these two kids forever. I think they're both
in their late thirties and he's absolutely rolling. He's gonna

(29:03):
win the National championship and he's sixty four years old
with and I. He's got Mark Cuban giving him money
to fund the team, and multiple other rich guys. So
like if I'm John spy Tech. I would. I'm sure
if Tom Brady's like, we need to talk to this guy.
I don't blame any NFL team for wanting to talk
to him, But what can you offer him? It's like, okay,

(29:23):
he can give him a couple more million dollars. He's
already so rich, like at this point in time, he
clearly he was working for nothing for most of his career,
right relative to coaches. So he's not driven by money, no,
no way. And now he's to sign a one hundred
million dollar contract. But he'd have to answer to people
like if let's say John Spytech wanted to hire him,

(29:46):
and he said, yeah, John Spija picks the players, right
and or whoever? And I got to answer to the owner.
Who's he answering to it? Indiana, He's he's like a god.
He answers to nobody. He's like they're saban. His job,
if they have the money to pay the players, is
as good as an NFL job. The top jobs in

(30:06):
college if you're rolling with nil, are NFL jobs because
you run, you run the payroll, you pick the players.
Even if you have a quote unquote GM all the
big time like Kirby Smart doesn't answer to his GM.
The GM answers to him, Dan Lanning. The GM answers
to Dan Lanning. Right. So, to me, SIGG has a

(30:26):
better job than any NFL job when you have to
work for a GM, and it's pretty risky. He's never
coached in college or I mean in the pros, so
he's a lifetime college guy. I don't think I think
you get in trouble in life when you know. Colin
used to have this saying back in his ESPN radio days,
like don't try to make happier happy, you know, or

(30:50):
I fuck that up. It's like happy happier you know. Basically,
the grass isn't always green, slate, I haven't been drinking,
I promise the Basically the grass isn't always greener. And
when you got something really really good, you kind of
got to ride it like secretariat. To me, he's he's
already turned down like Penn State and stuff. To me,

(31:10):
Indiana is a better job than NFL jobs when you
work for yourself. Essentially, Yeah, he wants to form his
own Alabama. He wants to prove everyone wrong, which he
already has. But on top of that, you're already getting
more transfer portal guys. He's been one of the more
coaches that hasn't really complained about this whole college football
and being how older he is, it's pretty impressive that
he's investing in NIL, he's vesting in the portal and

(31:31):
even recruiting these guys because there's a lot of older
guys that you know, haven't really adapted to that and
their schools are falling behind, like in Alabama that's trying
to get more funding and stuff like that too. But
I agree, especially with the openings that they have in
the NFL, I don't know if you're gonna I mean,
you would know more than this. The discussion the other
day about if college coaches would go up to an
NFL opening because the NFL, I don't want to say

(31:53):
potential candidates isn't as great as it was last year
with Ben Johnson, Liam Cohen and obviously that's a tough
group to you know, is be after.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I just yeah, I agree, I think it would be better.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
I think the job specifically is the Raiders because he'd
get to just go with Mendoza, but they have spy
Tech who has worked his whole career, and you help
build the Bucks to get this job. Like part of
being a GM is you pick the players, and you
got Brady above him. You just got There's a lot
going on in NFL teams. Owners tell you what to do.

(32:28):
It's like, no one's none of these guys cutting checks
as long as you're rolling. No one told Saban what
to do for fifteen years, right. No one tells Dan
Hurley what to do at Yukon. No one tells these
guys that are rolling like Sar gets pressure. That's what
happens when you don't win. He wins the national championship.
To me, he'd be untouchable for forever at Indiana. Now,

(32:51):
you could also make the argument, it doesn't get any
better than this, So you could strike while the irons
hot and just take your shot and you could always
come back in a couple of years if it failed.
But he just didn't. He just sign because when they
were talking about Mendoza, when he said, my brother's gonna
be really good next year, didn't they just sign a
quarterback in the transferporter Like Mendo's brother's not gonna start
next year.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Josh Hoover TCU, he's in one of the top quarterbacks.
He was kind of at one point gonna be a
first round pick. This year. He kind of fell off
towards the back end of the season, but he's gonna start.
He's more tall.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
They just signed Indiana.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, they got the number one wider, number one or
number four wide receiver, Nick Marsh. They got a three
star guy to Boston College that had a lot of
reps over there, that's a stud. They got an edge
rusher from k State. They got a bunch of more
defensive line. Yeah, they're not going anywhere, But I was
to your point about Signetti out.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Like they're they're a pre even with losing the number
one pick and Surat and some of these guys, if
they win it, even though they have a brand new
team that they're a preseason what top five.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, I looked at their schedules.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
They play Season one.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
They play Ohio State, USC and Michigan are their toughest games.
So they're not playing Oregon, you're not playing old Penn State.
I guess they're kind of down, but they used to
be one of the powers of the Big Ten. Maybe
they'll be even better next year with all those still
be better next year. I think Iowa State players, but
in terms of Signetty. I want to ask you this
him in Indiana, I know that's one of the greatest
turnarounds in college football. Where would you rank this turnaround

(34:15):
in terms of sports? The only other one I could
think of would be the Pats and the Patriots with
Bill Belichick. But the quick turnaround with a team like
Indiana doing that is just I feel like it's the
greatest turnaround we've seen in sports personally.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
And they're gonna make another Hoosiers movie.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Which honestly might be better than the first one because
no one even saw this coming one hundred and fifty
to one preseason to win the national championship. That's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I think it's the greatest. You want a little confession here.
Never seen Hoosiers, probably never will, but I'll watch the
football version. Yeah, it'd be like a lot of times
in pro sports when it turns around. Let's use the
Patriots for example. They found this kid in the sixth

(35:01):
round named Tom Brady, and they had a bunch of
guys on the roster that you know, Mike Vrabel had
been a backup special teams practice squad guy from the Steelers.
They just had random guys and then it just kind
of comes together because Brady and Belichick, the Warriors. You know,
when Steph Curry got there, the Warriors were basically like

(35:23):
the Arizona Cardinals, I mean, with less recent history than
the Cardinals. I mean the Cardinals what they went to
the NFC Championship Game in like fourteen or thirteen fifteen maybe,
and they went to a Super Bowl and eight. The
Warriors were dog shit most of the eighties, definitely, most
of the nineties, all the two thousands, and one guy

(35:47):
completely changed your franchise. Lebron did that in It happens
in basketball if you get the right guy. I don't
think there's really a parallel to this. It's also hard
to parallel college sports to what we do now. But
it wouldn't have been possible what he's doing. He could
have got Mendoza because he could have been a grad transfer,
right because he had his degree. But all the other guys,

(36:09):
like the Mayor, I guess the Maryland kid might have
been a grad transfer too. But some of the guys
you're taking from the MAC or whatever, they would have
to sit out of here. And that goes for all
these teams. You know, Miami's no different that they take
portal guy. All these good teams take portal guys, right,
Keewan Lacy, I had forgotten. I was looking last night
the stud running back the Missouri has. They got him

(36:31):
to replace Lacey because Lane stole him. So it's it's
just a weird time. But he's just done it so
much better. And also unlike Lane, I guess they get
credit because of Trinidad, but it feels like Indiana's got
like ten Trinidads, doesn't it. That's what's the cool part

(36:51):
that that's what the awesome part about last night. For
a split second, when he thought this Division two quarterback's
going to take this team to the playoffs, that that
I would have said, that's one of the coolest stories
in the history of college football. But also it's not
really it wasn't even I guess you could always go
from like D two or D one double A straight up,
you didn't have to sit out. You just couldn't transfer

(37:12):
D one to D one without sitting out a year.
So like when I was at President State, we got
a guy from Oregon, he had to sit out a year.
But you could take a guy from D one Double
A or D two and they could come right to you.
So technically, Trinidad ten years ago could have done the
same thing, but they wouldn't have been looking right. You didn't.

(37:33):
You didn't scout the country for available players like you
do in the NFL until the last couple of years.
So yeah, it's remarkable. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
I just don't even think there's a parallel to it, really.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I mean, you see it in pro sports, but then
you look back, it's like, oh, yeah, the Giants sucked
and then they got Willie Mays you know where It's
like they got Buster Posey and Tim Linskomb's like the
hall of famers that happens in pro sports all the time.
In college, it's just sometimes you get lightning in a bottle,
and we've had individual moments like Auburn they get Cam

(38:06):
Boom win the national championship, but it was just one
year over and then a couple of years later what's
his name, chiswicks fire. You know, just this feels more sustainable.
I don't know. I don't think there's.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
It's hard to compare it to years past, pre nil
or transfer portal.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I think it's impossible to compare to your point about
this wouldn't even exist when you're talking about Trinidad.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Chaandliss. When I was at media day for the Festa
bow and I asked him, I was like, how did
you get recruited to the SEC? Because if you're a
Division two player, okay, Like, yeah, I'm gonna go in
the transfer portal, but I'm gonna look at, you know,
a MAX school. I'm gonna look at maybe a lower
power for school. No way in my mind, Like, yeah,
you believe in yourself to be an SEC quarterback, but
no way in my mind, I'm gonna get a full
scholarship to go to Ole Miss. And he actually said

(38:48):
he was about to commit to Temple. That was his
only offer he had. And Charlie Weiss found his highlights
on Twitter. So to your point about the old age
about social media not being there and Twitter being there,
like that's what's so great about this era. What makes
the story even greater about Trinidad is Charlie Weish just
scrolling on Twitter one day, finds this guy's highlights scheduling
for a visit Commits wasn't even supposed to play for

(39:10):
this season. Austin Simmons gets hurt. He propels in, but.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
They were looking for a backup quarterback.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
They didn't even recruit Hi as a start, And he
said he was supposed to be a part of a
running package. He wasn't even supposed to be like the
guy at all, which makes you wonder how good Austin
Simmons looked. At one point, he looked a little rusty
in that Kentucky game, and then he got hurt, and
you know, Chamblis obviously didn't look back. But I just
think it's so remarkable, and he even opens up the
landscape of now people are gonna look at Division two.
People were looking at FCS. Why would I not want

(39:38):
to go to Farris State, who just won the national
championship again and look at their quarterback, especially.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
With the low value of that versus going.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
And getting a six million dollars seven million dollars quarterback
and not even making a play. That's where you could
take That's where you could do the moneyball Billy Bean, right,
if you're if you find the best player, like the
MVP of the MAC, Let's say that guy's a defensive
end and he's gonna end up being like this guy's
gonna end up being a third rounder, that guy costs

(40:06):
a million dollars because all the good teams are gonna
want the guy, right. But Signetti and I think one
thing that differs from Nick Saban is Nick Saban didn't.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Deal with small dudes. And you saw him and I
like five nine corner boom the kick can play. And
he values more competitive, Like he's a great evaluator because
he's finding these guys at these lower levels. And I
think he puts a premium. And this is where I
was texting with the buddy to night. They're like, wait
till Indiana starts getting five stars. We were texting about it.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Two.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I think he would want a specific type five star
like individual person, like you better fit what he wants
or else it's not he's not you better be like
once you get to Oregon or or Georgia, like what
they're doing, their standard is so high that like they
probably take some guys that they don't love, but the

(40:56):
guy's just such a good talent. It's it's worth the risk.
I don't don't know if six doing that now, Maybe
eventually he'll have to do that if he loses a
couple times Ohio State or Oregon in a couple of years.
But I think his evaluation of like the mental toughness
chip on his shoulder guy, he's like, it's weird. They

(41:17):
feel like the like the buttoned up, much better version
of Boise in their heyday like fifteen years ago. But
they're clearly better than that because they're killing everybody and
they're a power four teams. So it's I don't think
there is a parallel. I think they're just their own story,
and every once in a while you just have like
this is just one of the crazy stories of all time.

(41:37):
You know, it's just one of those stories to me
that in like twenty thirty years they'll be a movie
like Rudy, but it won't. You couldn't talk about this
team like their Rudy because I'm watching him just kick
the crap out everybody. So they're not Rudy. They're better
than you, but they're guys like Oregon probably has more

(41:58):
guys on that field that will get drafted higher over
for the.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Next three or four years.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Right. I looked at now some of them are young,
but still I looked.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
At Indiana's recruiting class for next year for twenty twenty six,
and the ranked thirty fourth twenty two commits zero five stars,
seven four stars. So even like next year, Signetty's prioritizing
portal more than he is the high school recruiting, but
he's still able to get those four star players. It's remarkable.
And then when we were having the discussion about Chambliss

(42:26):
about him being a Division two guy that didn't make
a lot of money, kind of a low risk, high
reward thing. On the flip side with Carson Beck, you
got to give a lot of credit for Miami. He
got a lot of shit in the offseason because they
made four million dollars five million dollars. It looks like
a pretty good investment for making the National Championship. And
down the stretch he's making big plays. I know he
threw that interception and he had some bad throws, but

(42:47):
you know, the rushing touchdown to be able to make
the National Championship was the defensive line made a good
play on the ball there.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
But let's you were there last night. Let's let's end
on this. Did you watch the game on the field. No?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
So I I thought I had press box access on
my pass but I did not, and I just had
pre and posts to be on the field. I wasn't
allowed to be on the field during I didn't have
that like lanyard or whatever. So I ended up watching
it from the two hundred level. I just found a
seat and just sat there and watched the entire time,
plus the press box at State Farm Stadium. I'm sure

(43:37):
you've been a lot of press boxes. When they have
that glass in front, you can't hear the noise of
the fans.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
And I'm one of.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Those people when I watch football and big moments happen,
I like to kind of react, like I'm just kind
of a geek.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Where you're a man of the people.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
If there's a big hit or you know, explosive play
by Chambliss like Keewan Lacey seventy four yarder, I want
to yell and scream and like what just happened. So
I watched in the two hundred.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
We don't along with the big Jays.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
You know, they're a little quieter and you gotta be
a little more professional, and they're all type in and
stuff and they're all like looking at it where they're
trying to write in the articles and stuff like that.
But no, yeah, I watched in the two hundred level.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I was just so you just found a random open seat.
There was a lot of open seats seat.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, there was a lot of open seats in the
two hundred level, which is like the club section. Also
at a Buddy, that's like the best level to watch
a football game. Yeah, I was over by like the
old miss end Zone, but safe Arm Stadium anywhere you sit.
I feel like, obviously doesn't get a good reputation of
where the location is or how good the football team
is the Arizona Cardinals, But if you want to in
terms of like Final four National Championship collegeotball playoff games,

(44:36):
I think it's one of the better stadiums that you
can have a venue at. Obviously, the grass is pretty shitty,
which last night it wasn't slippery at all, but it.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Was a couple of times they were a couple of
running backs slipped, Yeah Fletcher slipped on one. But it
was it was better than the Super Bowl. But still,
is that the owner for Arizona Cardinals going cheap grass?
Bid Well?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah he's cheap. Yeah, he's super cheap. Never gonna win
with Bidwell as the owner of his team. But it
just felt like it felt intense obviously the stars on
the sideline and seeing all these Miami legends.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
You walk around and I'm walking on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
You see Ray Lewis, Michael Phelps, and you got Cam
Warren Jackson, Dart Ederan, James, Andre Johnson, like Reggie Wayne,
like this girl that works for the Fiesta Bowl. After
the game, she's like, YEA, who are those guys over there.
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's Andre Johnson, Edwin James, Reggie Wayne,
like legends, Hall of famers. She's like, well, you should
go over and take photos with them. I was like,
no way, Like, there's no way I want to bother

(45:33):
them or take a photo. Next thing I look, she
goes over there and asks them, and I got a
photo with Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, and Edwin James, which
I'll probably frame. But it was just like the magnitude
of that game and seeing how many stars in ALM base,
which is cool with this new you know, landscape of
college football, seeing how many Alma Mater guys, and you
obviously it's Miami. They haven't been to this point since

(45:53):
what two thousand and one, two thousand and three. Both
sides traveled really well. Obviously the game was intense too,
but overall, this is a great atmosphere. And obviously got
the interview with Michael Irvin which for the program how
to Do It, so.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
It was that was cool. He Uh, yeah, those guys,
me and Shane were talking last night. I do think
the amount Mario might need to cut off these guys.
There are going to be so many Miami alumni that
I would imagine they take up both sidelines. Yeah, and

(46:27):
a lot of them you don't realize, like Michael irvans
like fifty eight years old, you know, even ray Lewis.
I mean ray Lewis retired twelve years ago and he
was old when he he was like forty when he retired.
These guys their heyday late eighties, mid nineties. You know
the rock it is gonna be for college football. Indiana

(46:51):
obviously is gonna be this all time story going into
this game. But there's gonna be like a Laker Yankee
field to Miami with the stars and the famous people,
especially being in Miami. I uh, for the first time,
I told Marie tonight, you know what, hard Rock wanted
me and Colin to do something at the game. I

(47:11):
think Colin is going I obviously with the baby, am
not gonna be able to make it typically on this
type stuff like I've been lucky over my life and
been a lot of big NFL Super Bowls, NBA finals.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Like I've been there, done that again.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I never take it for granted having the ability, but
I was like, if I can't go at whatever, I
kind of got a little foma. Like it is if
the baby had been born like a month ago and I.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Could have gone to see Miami, Indiana and been there.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I think it's gonna be pretty cool from a storyline standpoint,
and just like interest standpoint. I feel as if he
told me it was like Oregon, Ohio State or like Texas, Georgia,
like whatever, Right, this is pretty freaking cool. I mean,
there's no way around it. Did you see the interview
with Mario tonight, Like you could tell he's pretty on edge,

(48:00):
like he's he feels like you know, Saban has ribbing
him a little bit, but you can tell like there's
a lot on the line.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, even with SVP Fast Night to SVP, he was
asking him like he's like, I'm not gonna say the
U is back, and Chris balls like, oh here we go.
Don't say it an SVP kind of got pissed. He's like,
I'm professional, Like, trust me, I'm not going to put
you in that situation. He almost seems I mean, Signetty's
intense on the sideline, but Mario christ Ball almost seems

(48:27):
more intense where it's like, I feel like in this game,
he's just gonna overthink and he's gonna do something stupid.
But he's been so good throughout the playoffs, he's been
so good throughout the season. I don't want to diminish
him at all, but he almost seems like over intense
on the sideline. You saw that video too of his
assistant coach hugging him and he told him to get
off of him, which I understand that circumstance, because there's
eighteen seconds left. You have Trinidad Chamberliss, who's been dicing

(48:49):
your defense and almost had an opportunity to win that game.
But he I don't know if it's him being a
former player, and you're right, maybe it's the alum seeing
those guys lined up on both sides that kind of
just adds to the pressure of this.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
I had a buddy that was almost became his GM
at when he was at Oregon and just was like, well,
he's a grinder. He's not a big, happy, go lucky guy.
I mean, Signetti openly talks about It's weird. You would
think he'd be like a raging dick and they're twenty hours,
Like he's got the Bruce Arians. Like I tell my guys,
we seven thirty and we're out of here, like after dinner,

(49:23):
Like have a life, go see your kids. You know,
if you can't get it done, then you shouldn't be
working for me. So I think they're a little they
feel the same when they're just standing there with their scowl.
I think they are way different personalities. Now, part of
it goes back to Mario. I think Chip on his
shoulder is like an overachieving player, you know. I think
this goes back in kind of the Miami culture back then.

(49:44):
He was like probably one of the worst guys on
the team and earned his spot and became like part
of this huge you know what they've become. And then
he gets a shot, fails, goes to sab and resurrects
his career, goes to Oregon, does well, but everyone still
kind of nitpicks them, right. I think one thing let's
end on this, like we Dan Lanning kind of gets

(50:07):
a pass. You know, there's a lot of people we
talk about passes. Mario does not get a pass. Some
of that's brought it on him, done some crazy play calls, fumbles.
You know, guys like Lane Sark, those guys do not
get passes. Kirby gets a pass because he went back
to back natties. So no one holds a loss against him.
Dan's been rolled now. I mean lost some big games

(50:29):
to debor obviously the last two playoffs. Ohio State blew
them out, got blown out tonight. That Texas Tech game
was pretty close if they just would have had if
you just gave like Texas Tech Trinidad Chambliss, Orgon could
have lost last week or whatever they played ten days ago. Right,
So I listen, I'm pro Dan Lanning, but I mean

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I think that he gets to fly under a little
bit of the radar.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
They're in Eugene, right, I think that's part of it.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
I think Oregon and Washington, you know, Weird Way get
to fly under the radar more than most programs, especially Oregon.
I mean they're consistent top five team like that would
not be the case if this was the equivalent of
like Auburn or Florida or something and they were top
five program but getting blown out like that, it would
just I'm not saying fire the guy.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
I'm just saying he just doesn't get criticized ever.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
And they got worked.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, right back seven.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yeah, especially with how much and now he's got new
coordinators coming in.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, especially with how much elite talent they have. When
you talked earlier about Indiana and how they're obviously gonna
have Mendoza in and probably a lot of second round guys.
Kenyan Cidy's gonna be a first round guy. They got
a couple of defensive linemen that could be a first
round talent. And you're obviously conquering the West coast too,
And you go against a guy in Kurtis Signetti who's
done it for two years, when you're about to be
entering the year five next year with back to back
years where you get blown out, I mean, that's one

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of the largest deficits largest margins of victories are lost.
I should say that organ's ever had and the spread
being three points, like you just thought it was gonna
be a close game. I don't know. I don't know
where you go. I think Dan Lane is gonna be
a great coach. This is kind of one of those
things that he's kind of the maturation of coaching. It's
gonna take probably longer than a lot of Oregon fans expect.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Versus what there's gonna be is there's gonna be pressure
these next couple of years with this loaded roster, you know,
to really kind of him.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Next year's the year. Next year would be the year
if I were to say, Oregon would have won the
national championship, especially if Dante come to that making semi
This year was a really really good season for them,
especially with how many injuries they had. Totally yeah, at
the wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I just think anytime you get blown out by a
conference opponent that you, I mean could have beat. I
know you lost by ten, but I mean they were
they went toe to toe with them early in the season,
and then you watch them now now they've had injuries.
But I do think I think these next two years,
people are gonna want to be like, can we win
a national championship because that's one thing that has eluded Oregon.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
But other than that, yeah, I mean, fun couple of
days and now we got one more game. How long
it take you to get home last night? That's my
big issue with the place. Just such a pain to
get out of there there.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
It took me fifty four minutes because it is raining,
and you know how people in Arizona when it rains,
they feel like it's ice or snow, so they drive
like twenty miles an hour to get back. Because I
left there at like midnight, it took me like forty
five minutes.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Traffic are just rolling on the one on one. So
when you went out to your car last night, everyone
was gone.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeaheah, everybody was gone. It was it was dark, parking
lot was empty, stadium was empty. And it's always nice too.
I hate the traffic when you leave one of those games,
especially as a fan, like dealing with that type of traffic.
But I was gonna ask you real quick, what would
your prediction be for the line? Like what would you
project the line for Indiana Miami to be? Without even I.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Have the line? If I if if hard Rock hired
John Middlecoffin gave me my own little book, I would
send it in a touchdown seven and a half. That's
what it is.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Seven and a half. I think it seems accurate after
what you saw tonight.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
And they're starting corner who's good, got the targeting call,
He's out for the first half. You know. I know
Mesdor came back in the game, but he had his
arm snap. So what to see Mario when he was
being interviewed tonight by the game day guys, I think
part of his face was like, you know, we're pretty
banged up. We're pretty banged up. I think there are
They're pretty banged up. He even talked to me that

(54:16):
de tackle that tried to go for him last night.
His leg didn't work after like two plays, and I'd
be like, limp off the field. So they are the
one concerning part for them. It's why I loved them
last night. I was like, I think Miam's gonna win
this game by ten. I thought four would absolutely dominate them.
You didn't really notice them, Yeah, like and part of

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it Chambliss can move, but so can Mendoza. Like their
pass rush did not smother Maybe ole Miss. I mean
they did, you know, only lose to Georgia in the SEC.
Maybe their ow lines probably better than they get credit for,
because I mean, Perkins was the best pass rusher on
the field last night out of the two teams.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Chan Was didn't get touched against Georgia either, so he
might honestly be good at just evating those tacklers. But
if you're Mario, yeah, he also he hyped on you
talked about it last night, the whole targeting ejection thing,
which is another discussion the other day. That's like the
worst wool joke in college football. But if you're Mario,
you had forty two minutes of possession against Ole Miss.
It seems like you're gonna do the same thing against
Indiana because that you're not gonna be able to stop

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this offense how two dimensionally.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
I mean, you can't do that against them. Their defense
too good and they play like that. That's the other thing,
you know, So they play even if you do well
on the ground, they played just like you. You would
just put the most. You're trying to. You're trying to
You're just trying to even be even with them. Like
what was the I bet I'm looking at night time possession.

(55:38):
It probably got skewed in the second half, but it
was thirty one to twenty eight, But I bet the
first half, I mean I guess Indiana scored on the
pick six, so their offense wasn't even on the field
for the first like eight minutes of the game because
then Oregon drove.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
So yeah, I mean I I I'd.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Be stunned to play any one. Honestly, if if Miami wins,
I'll end on this. If Miami wins, Mario should be
a should be a made man to get a lifetime
contract because that's he's got no business winning this game,
which is crazy to say Miami in the National Championship
has no business beating Indiana. But that's where we are
in twenty twenty five. Okay, Jackson, head off to bed

(56:17):
on this crazy or head out on the town. I
mean it's ten o'clock, you go hit the town, do
whatever you do, because I'm I'm gonna go to bed,
So have a good night. I'm glad you enjoyed the
game and found a seat in the two hundred level.
That's life. Hack football, unlike basketball or baseball, much better
in the middle rows than it is close and obviously

(56:38):
the nosebley is hard to see, but anytime that you
can get somewhat two three hundred depending on the stadium,
best place to watch football game by force, and you
just got to act like a good hack by.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
You just gotta act like you've been there before. You
could buy a four hundred ticket and you could walk
to the two hundred. There's no security guard that's gonna
check your ticket, just gonna open the door, find an
open seat. If someone comes over and says, hey, that's
my seat, then move. It's just that easy. But no,
I will be I will be staying here.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
How many you know how many country clubs I've hit
golf balls at the range over the course of my
life by just tucking my shirt, putting on the hat
and just going out to the range that no one noticed.
You act like you've been there. Life's not that complicated.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
I'd beg you've been there, And no, I'm not hitting
the town. I will be staying here and probably editing
of social tonight and going to bed, maybe you know,
playing some Call of Duty, playing some two K and
ripping the good old penske and heading to bed.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
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