November 29, 2024 • 53 mins
John reacts to the Thanksgiving Day slate of games, but diving into the Packers big win over the Dolphins and how Jordan Love is showing that he's an elite QB in the league and how Tua is showing everyone that he can't win in cold weather. Later, he dives into how the Lions are the best team in the NFC and how the Bears coaching issues continue. Lastly, John dives into the trainwreck that is the NY Giants and how the Cowboys could somehow still win 9 games this season.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?
Happy Thanksgiving? Cheers from my family to yours. Hopefully everyone
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had a great Thanksgiving. I said one massive meal today.
It's weird because today is such a great day and
you're eating. You're like, it's not that unhealthy, but you
eat so much. I just can't help it. The older
you get, you think you'd be like, hey, you don't
need to eat that much, but you just stuff your face,
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didn't move. Watch a lot of football. That's what we
will be talking about here. The Packers house, the house,
the Dolphins, the Cowboys beat the Giants, and the Chicago
Bears lose. Again, no guarantee they would have won, but
eber Flus clearly made sure of that that they did
not by his time out situation. So we will dive
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into all that as well as something I saw from
Roger Goodell today. So hopefully everyone had a great day
and the game. Here's the game plan. We're gonna have
no reaction to Chiefs Raiders. Just try to enjoy a
couple of days here and then we will be back
on the football horse. Comes Sunday, I will do what
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we do every week afternoon with Colin and then Sunday
Night Bill's verse the forty nine ers. So that could
be an ass kicking if the Niners don't get it
together and get it together quick, but that will be
the game plan for the next couple of days. So
this was just a little improv too show. I thought,
you know, we didn't go anywhere, just order some food
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food Gazi Friday. But today's a positive day, so we're
gonna enjoy it. Nothing negative beside actually some props to
the old Sweet Potato Pie, which was very Impress's not
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You know it's funny. When it was twenty four to
three at halftime with the Green Bay Packers, just working
the Miami Dolphins. I thought, you know what, let's go
to the weather app on the iPhone. And obviously all
week we had heard I guess all week the last
three days about all the stats involving the Miami Dolphins,
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involving Tua Tonguavailoa and how they play in cold weather.
Tua's record now is zero to eight in games under
forty degrees. Miami now has a putrid record over the
last like fifteen games in cold weather games. They have
looked terrible in most primetime games under Mike McDaniel. And
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when you factor in now recent cold weather games going
back the last two years, in both Decembers and obviously
in the two playoff games against the Bills and the Chiefs,
it has not gone well. And today, you know, when
I started recording, it was thirty to seventeen. The number
looks a little closer than the game was. And the
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weather today in Miami was eighty five degrees, which has
to be one of the nicest climates on Thanksgiving Day
in all of America. Hell, where I live in Scottsdale,
which is an incredible winter climate, it's like seventy two
degrees eighty five degrees. That's about as good as you get.
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And then they showed the on during the broadcast when
it started snowing, it was like twenty seven degrees in
Green Bay, which I would imagine feels even colder when
you factor in the wind and the snow coming down.
So you have basically a sixty degree difference between Miami
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and Green Bay, Wisconsin. And listen, I'm someone who born
and raised in a warm weather climate. I fucking hate
the cold. I used to like skiing, Now I don't
want to risk getting injured or anything, so I don't
even if I'm gonna go to the mountains. I'm basically
just drinking and hanging during the winter. Summer do normal activities,
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but winter like, you won't find me in the slope
on the slopes anymore, especially because these lift tickets are
like Squaw Valley and North Star and places in Lake
Taho are like seven hundred dollars for a day. But
that's a whole another story. But the reality is just
these are human beings, and let's face it, Miami, I
wouldn't say is built like the eighty five piers right
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from a physical toughness standpoint, the way they want to play,
spread the ball out and sling it around. This is inevitable.
What human being, what group of human beings could have
a sixty degree difference from eighty five degrees to twenty
five degrees playing a sport like football and have a
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snowball's chance in hell to compete like It's not that complicated.
This is one of those that's very black and white.
Of course, they don't translate well to these cold weather games.
It's basically impossible to in what world. The Mike McDaniel
made a joke this week, I think on his press
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conference on Monday or Tuesday. They asked him what he
was gonna do to get ready, and you know he's
kind of a quirky as press conference are a little weird.
He joked that he was gonna have ice cubes in
his pockets and everyone laughed. He he what could he do? Honestly,
what could he possibly do to prepare for that change
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in climate. There was one time one of the most
famous viral photos of my of the Internet age with
the San Francisco forty nine ers, was when Chip Kelly
was the coach of the Niners and they had one
of their worst seasons in franchise history, and I think
statistically the worst defense ever. I forget who they played.
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It might have been Tampa and they stayed, or might
have been Miami and they stayed in Florida and they
were playing the Bears the following week, so they basically
didn't come home. And the weather in Chicago was supposed
to be bad. Turns out it was. It's like a snowstorm,
and there was this clip of someone like spraying water
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on the kicker or a guy catching the ball. I mean,
it was pretty embarrassing. And then they went and played
the Bears and I'm pretty sure Matt Barkley was the
quarterback and they lost by several touchdowns, and the visual
did not do justice to the final score. Like it's
just hard when you have that, but like there's nothing
you can do to prepare for that weather unless you
travel immediately to that weather and play in it. And then,
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let's face it, like when you scout or when you
work for a team and you coach and you're getting
ready to pick players to come to your team, and
we've talked about this before, defensive players kind of translate,
like if you're a physical defender, whether you're a warm
weather team, whether you're a cold weather team, I'm gonna
watch you on my squad. But offensive guys like I
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gotta do some digging, specifically with quarterbacks. And you watch
Jordan Love and you go, I see why Gudikins and
Lafloor liked him a lot. You see. I mean, obviously
he's turned into a really good player, and I mean
he's got a chance. I mean he's gonna go to
the playoffs again for the Green Bay Packers starting quarterback.
They're gonna easily win double digit games. He's just a very,
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very talented guy. But his arm strength really stands out
because you could not be the Green Bay Packers quarterback
with a weak arm. You have no fucking chance. None.
Just like playing in New York, playing in New England,
playing in Philadelphia, playing in colder weather spots. If you
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do not have a strong arm, it's hard to play
in that you know, wind, cold, it's tough. It's why
we talk about hand size. You know, it always goes
becomes a big part of the conversation. Sometimes it goes
viral when people are making fun of these quarterbacks with
small hands, and it matters because when it starts, it's
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hard to grip the ball well. If you play in
southern California or in a dulme like who cares right,
Jared Goff does not have big hands. Well historically, he's
never played that well outside well, most of his career
right beside road games, has been in Los Angeles and
has been in a dome in Detroit. So you can
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kind of make up for it based on your own
ability to control the variables. So he's benefited from that.
If you put him in New England or New York,
it'd be or Cleveland, it'd be a lot harder. It's
like you look back on them going for Deshaun Watson
in Cleveland, You're like, you're getting a dude from the
South who does not have a big arm. And this
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was before he sucked, even when he was playing well.
It's like, ah, this is gonna be tough. It's why
Flako I had a lot of success. His ball pierces
all the cold, the wind, the cold air, like it translates, Well,
where's he from? Delaware, PA, Penn State, Baltimore, Cleveland, Like
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that shit works. And you watch Jordan Love obviously they've
turned him in to a really good player. But to me,
you could never draft a quarterback as like you're a
franchise guy in Green Bay if they do not have
a big arm, and it just happens that far you know,
might have one of the biggest arms in NFL history.
Rogers isn't far behind, and Jordan Love clearly is one
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of the best arms in the league. So you just
watch Miami, you go like, yeah, I understand you're watching
them play in this game. They're just kind of dinking
and Duncan because Tua's not going to be able to
throw bombs. His arm does not going to work in
that situation. And honestly, listen, I've gained a lot of
respect for Tua ever since the last fencing moment, Like
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he's like I get him, like, and I understand why
Saban liked him. I understand why Mike McDaniels likes him.
I understand why. Like, it's just he's an easy guy
to root for, and he's probably a better quarterback than
people like me that are critical of them. But this
if you gamble, Honestly, I was kind of pissed at myself.
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I should have put five x what I ended up
putting on this game, and this was the only game
that I bet of the day, partly because the morning games,
you're like, you're gonna be watching them anyway. I needed
a little juice to watch this thing. It's been a
long day, you've had a bunch of food. I wanted
to be into it, but also I knew, like, there's
no chance in Miami's gonna win this game, absolutely zero,
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when you factor in the franchise, when you factor in
their quarterback, when you factor in their coach. And what happened.
They get their fucking ass kicked. It was twenty four
to three at halftime, and it didn't even feel that close.
So you look some of these final scores, it's like
same thing with the second game with the Giants and
the Cowboys, Like, what was a final score twenty seven
to twenty. It was a one score. It was not
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a one score game that wasn't ass kicking. But you know,
the Packers, it's funny, they're a big trait driven organization,
and I was thinking, I mentioned earlier, the sweet Potato
Pie is one of the wildest experiences I've ever had
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because at this point in time, besides like some delicacies,
and things that you would have at some of these
like restaurants that you know, these fu food restaurants that
I'm probably never going to and don't really aspire to
go to, you know, like movie or shows like The
Bear like stuff like that. I'm not really into that
type food. But for the most part, I've probably dabbled
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in most foods, especially when it comes to desserts. Now,
I'm not a huge pie guy to begin with, but
I would say that I've I've had most pies. I've
never had sweet potato pie, and it blew my mind.
I was like, how do more people not discuss this
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pie like we do apple, like we do pumpkin Like?
Do you think about it when you just talk about pies?
Apple pie and pumpkin pie? I would say, are the
most consistently discussed pies. I saw today, as most of
you did as well, when we were watching the Sunday
Night Game and they put up Matt Lafleur his favorite
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food on Thanksgiving is ribbi. I like Matt Lafleur a lot.
That is insanity. I mean that truly is you can
need a ribby three hundred and fifty four or how
many gays are there three hundred and sixty five, three
hundred and sixty four days here to choose ribbi, like
because I don't like turkey. It's like, come on, man,
they eat some ham. You're not eating a ribbi a
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ribbi on Thanksgiving. I'll give you a prime rib But like,
come on, we need to have a conversation with Matt.
But listen, you see that body type like he ain't
putting many bad things into his body. But you saw
Kalas Campbell say banana cream pie and listen, banana cream
pie is pretty good. You know. I once was invited
over to Andy Ree's house on Thanksgiving, and I remember
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it's on my parents. I'm like, well, I gotta bring something,
and they're like, uh, well, go to one of the
local bakeries. It's Philadelphia. And I went into the local
bakery and I said, what's the best thing you have?
Cake pie, whatever, like the banana cream pie. So I
walked right in with that banana cream pie and it
was fantastic. But when it comes to sweet potato pie,
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it was an eye opening experience. And I think it
relates to NFL offenses because when I think we go,
who's the best NFL offense. You go the Detroit Lions, right,
they got Saint Brown, they got Laporta, they got multiple
running backs, they got the offensive line, they got Ben
Johnson's unstoppable offense. Say the same thing about the Baltimore
ravens Lamar Jackson. He's gonna win fifteen MVPs. Dereck Henry
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going right to the Hall of Fame, Zay Flowers next
Tyreek Hill. They got multiple tight ends. Offense is unstoppable.
And I'm watching the Packers and I go, I don't
feel like we talk enough about this offense relative to
the best offense in the league. They have, You know,
the quarterback can throw some picks, but when he's on
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his talent and that arm strength threw a snowstorm whoop
throwing dots. They have Jaden Reid, which we definitely never
talk about him when it comes to just high level
wide receivers. And I'm going, that guy could play for
my team any day of the week. If Watson catches
the ball, he literally runs by every defensive back in
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the NFL. I take wicks every time I watch the Packers.
That guy makes some plays. Tucker the tight end is fantastic,
and Jacobs like everyone and rightfully so, Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry.
It's like Josh Jacobs. I mean, this guy was a
first round pick from Alabama, and I was saying last year,
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coming into the year, I thought he was a better
player than Saquon. Now, Saquon is a much faster running back,
so when you get into the open field, but in
terms of hands and pass protection, Josh Jacobs is about
as complete of a running back as you will find.
Just a fantastic player. And oh yeah, they're head coach.
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What is he? Oh, he's the offensive play caller. And
I was also thinking, like you know, when you think
big picture. In the NFC North, everyone loves Dan Campbell
and what he's done with the Lions is remarkable. It
really is. I mean it's like taking over a bankrupt
business and turn them into fucking Apple or Google. I mean,
be eleven and one with the Detroit Lions, who you
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just took to the NFC Championship game and were winning
the game on the road. It's awesome. I'm a Dan
Campbell fan. There's a pretty good chance he loses both coordinators.
You would think this is the year Ben Johnson accepts
a head coaching job. Said it the moment Dennis Allen
got fired. Aaron Glenn to the Saints. It makes a
ton of sense. Keep an eye. Aaron Glenn to the
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New Orleans Saints. So he's gonna lose both of his coordinators.
He's not the player, he's a hardball. So who he
hires as coordinators? And you know, maybe he elevates some
guys maybe, but you never know, it might not be
the same. And Kevin O'Connell is a lot like Lafleur,
stud offensive coordinator guy everyone likes. Look at his quarterback situation.
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Sam Donald is gonna be a free agent. The teams
are gonna be desperate. I'm sure he's gonna get a
lot of money, and they'll probably be hesitant to pay him.
I've talked with Colin about it, like I would not
let him go, but that's not usually the way the
business works in the NFL. They probably will. Why do
you think they signed Daniel Jones Because they probably want
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to make Daniel Jones be the next Sam Donald just
in case JJ can't roll. I mean, did he tore
his knee up and then he needed another surgery Like
a couple weeks ago, so we got major big picture
question marks with the quarterback position with the Minnesota Vikings,
and obviously the Bears are just a shit show of
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an organization when it comes to coach in front and
just an operation. So really, if you're the Packers, you're
not competing against the Bears. You're competing against the Vikings
and the Lions, who now have one team has a
quarterback question big picture and the other just gonna have,
you know, coordinator position big picture question marks. Well, you
have neither. Your quarterback is under a long term deal.
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He's an excelle player. You could have moments that drives
you nuts, but it's like, I can live with it
if he's an explosive offensive player like he is, and
you never have to worry about your offensive coordinator being
poached because he's the head man, and even your defensive
coordinator like, look what happened. He hired athlete from Boston
College and more than likely like Halfley's going to be
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there for a couple of years. So if I'm a
Packer fan, you got to be feeling pretty good about
your chances and looking forward. You know, one thing with
the Lions is watching that game, it felt like every
three plays there was a Lion laying on the ground
or limping off the field. It was insane. I start
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feeling bad. I'm like, this is bullshit. If you're a
Detroit Lion fan and you're thirty, forty fifty years old,
you've waited your whole life for this moment, and your
team is incredible, and it feels like over the last
three or it's one thing to lose Aiden Hutchinson, but
the last couple of weeks, it's like we are losing
multiple players every game. And I was like, well, no
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team needs this mini buy or just some extra days
off more than the Lions. And maybe because I was
like getting food ready, and maybe they talked about in
the broadcast, I had it muted for most of it. Well,
you're watching the Packer game. Who they play next week?
They play next Thursday. And the NFL is good at this.
They usually take two of the teams that play today
and they make them play next Thursday, which is kind
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of throwing them a bone. They get a real week,
but you actually don't get the benefits of that mini
by and the Packers who are now or they ate
three and you got the Lions eleven and one. It's
not like there's some seven game gap between the two
of them. So all of a sudden, if you're the Packers,
you feel pretty good going to Detroit where, let's face it,
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your team's kind of built like an indoor team. Your
offense is humming, and you're getting a defense who knows
how many guys are gonna be healthy for them. So
this is the crazy part about the Lions season is
it couldn't go anybody. They're fucking eleven and one, the
greatest start in the history of the franchise. And I
would say for most franchises moving forward, like you don't
usually start eleven and one, that is an incredible start.
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And they still got guys nipping on their heels like,
by no means can they even take a deep breath.
So it's Packers are in a good position. Man. This
is a massive what a great Thursday night game. One
thing though, that I did jot down and this is
it's just something that interests me, maybe it interests you.
One thing the Packers historically have always done, and this
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is why they have Jordan Love, This is why they
have Aaron Rodgers, this is why they took a guy
like Christian Watson from North Dakota State. They love what
people call in the scouting community and GMS and you
know college scouting directors. Term they use is hightweight speed.
They love hightweight speed guys. High weight speed guys mean
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just like the opposite of Bryce Young or Tua big strong,
built guys that can move right. And Luke Vanes who
had a sack tonight. I remember hearing about him a
couple of years ago a lot because he was this
rising prospect, this freak show from Iowa. He had never
started a game at Iowa, which isn't that crazy. Iowa
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has a good defense. They get a lot of guys drafted,
but I would say, if you've never started a game
in college, to go. Luke Faness was drafted a number
thirteen overall, and he's shown some signs. I'm watching him
a night like looks a little stiff to me. But
I remember a lot of people liked him. A lot
of people thought he was going to go really high
in the draft. Then he did. But he's never started
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a game now in a year and a half for
the Green Bay Packers. And I think sometimes when you
draft these high weight speed guys, The Packers love this
because they've historically had a lot of good coaches, so
they can take these kind of raw products Jordan Love,
Luke Vans, Christian Watson and kind of muld you into
a high end player and it works a lot for him.
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But also it can't burn you. It's like, now, I
looked at the draft, A lot of guys that went
after him. There wasn't some like Micah Parsons didn't go next,
So it's not like they passed on some no brainer.
A lot of offensive skill guys also went after him.
They're clearly loaded at those positions, so I'm not necessarily
acting like they could have easily taken player acts or
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player why but it goot listen this. I would say
these last two years have been a pretty incredible moment
for just a lifetime scout, a guy that's worked at
a organization since the late nineties, pretty big muscle. Flex
I was talking to a buddy in the league about this.
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He traded an all time great quarterback a lot like
Pete Carroll and John Schneider did that they did not want,
Like I don't want this player anymore. We don't plan
on starting him anymore. He's done with us, and we
actually don't really think he can play that well anymore.
And they got a first and a second round pick
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for the guy. Obviously, the Seattle Seahawks got a lot
more for Russell Wilson of Granted he was a lot younger,
but still like anytime you could get one first round pick,
like when the Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill. It's not like
they didn't still want Tyreek Hill, or they wouldn't be
the first to acknowledge. Yeah, he's one of the best
players in the league. We just have to pick and
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choose who we can pay right, and we just this
is gonna be a bold move. We think he's awesome,
we expect him to still be good, but we just
can't I pay him twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven
million dollars a year whatever Miami ended up paying him, right,
But we're not acting like this guy is trending down.
The Packers went, this guy, we're over this, we want
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out of this business. We want a divorce. You can
have her. Except they got and honestly, if he hadn't
torn as achilles, they ever got two first round picks.
So Goot has been incredible but I would say that
pick he got a little bold. You know, he and
I talked to some other people that said listen on
our draft boards. We liked him a lot too, and
I get it. I would say this if you've in
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football in basketball, remember what's his name for the Carolina
tar Heels? Was it not Rashad mccantz Marvin Williams back
in like two thousand and four, two thousand and five,
he didn't start on their national championship team and was
drafted number two overall. Now, granted, I think all five
starters got drafted. You know, team won the Natty. Basketball
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is not as he was a true freshman in college football.
If you can't start, I probably shouldn't take you in
the first round, even if you are talented and have
a chance to be good. Like that's pretty crazy. But
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But let's let's stay in the AFC North. I think
we kind of talked about the Lions, like eleven and one.
I'm storry to get a little nervous for them, just
how many guys are being injured. It's it's it's not
even like guys getting carted off all the time. It
felt like every other play today, someone would be holding
their hands, someone would be holding their knees, someone would
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be limping off, someone would be shaking, And it's like,
this is not a sustainable way. We are not close
enough to the end of the season, and they are
by no means a lock, despite having the greatest season
in franchise history and feeling like the best team in
the NFL to even be the number one seed. And
if they're not the one, it's not even just the
number one seed. They got Minnesota and Green Bay right
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on their ass. It'd be one thing if they had
a several game lead, and even if they weren't the
number one overall seed, they'd be the number two seed,
Like they're gonna lock to win the division, Like the
margin isn't that big, And it's why, Damn Campbell, why
I defend them when people are like, why is he
still playing starters? Like this is the NFL, this isn't
college football. We you have ninety guys dressed, you only
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have you don't even have fifty three guys dressed, right,
you dress forty five to forty six guys and a
couple of them are a kicker and your punter. So
I don't even have ten offensive linemen. I can't just
yank my starters or I have ten DB's, like my
dbs are my DB's. I got a couple guys that rotate,
but those guys play special teams, so I kind of
gotta be careful. And I they were kicking the Bears ass,
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but it was sixteen nothing in halftime. Three of the
field or three field goals instead of touchdowns, and two
of them came in the red zone. They kicked the
field goal at the twelve yard line, they kicked the
field goal at the eighteen yard line. But you're watching
that game thinking this is a the Bears, like is
this serious? Are you guys even gonna try? But then
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through just the you're sure volume of guys going down
for the Bears or excuse me, the Lions. Caleb kind
of got hot and Keenan Allen scored a couple of touchdowns.
All of a sudden, You've got a game, and you're like, ah,
this kind of feels like they're making it kind of
a fake game. And then all of a sudden, the
Bears down three points, have the ball driving, and I
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look at Maria and I just put a food away
and we were gonna cook a couple of dishes to
go with the food that we had got. And when
I think the Lions might I think that Caleb's going
to lead them on a touchdown drive right here. But
I'm doing a couple of things. I'm not like sitting
on the couch taking notes watching this part of the game,
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because I had already in my mind accepted that the
game was over like ten to twenty minutes before that point.
But then I'm watching and they're driving. I'm like, the
Lions are going to lose this game. Then all of
a sudden, Caleb Williams gets sacked, and I think he
gets sacked at the thirty five thirty six second mark,
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and I'm kind of not really just obviously I knew
they had a time out because you could see the
little dot do something, just thinking that hey, they'll take
a time out, they'll it was going to be a
long field goal. Maybe they will try to get a
chuck play and then rush the field goal unit on
which when you're the Bears, is no lock to even work.
But listen, if you get the field goal blocked again,
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we will just acknowledge your unit is the worst field
goal unit we've ever seen. But you're still gonna get
a field goal off. And if anyone that's watched any
of the postgame locker room from the Bears, multiple players
are like, yeah, I just thought we were gonna get
a field goal. Not only they not call time out,
we all know the story by now, they get one play.
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Now it was third down, so it wasn't like they
had a chance. I've seen a lot I saw. Terry
Bradshaw was like, I would have got four plays and thirty.
It was third down and it was third and twenty.
It was long way to go. But to not call
a time out, and then for Eberflus after the game
to say that we liked what we did. And I
had a couple of people texting me like what was
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Caleb doing? I will defend Caleb in this spot. Thursday,
short week seasons been a disaster late in the game.
You got to be exhausted that this is not a
six year pro. This is not Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
Patrick Mahomes, justin Herbert Jalen Hurts. This is not a
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guy with forty to fifty sixty seventy starts under his belt,
one hundred starts. This is a guy that has about
ten starts under his belt in the National Football League
on the road on Thanksgiving. Who's gotta be huffing and
puffing and listen, he's a disaster in that situation. But
I'm sorry the head coach who is not the play
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caller on offense, who when you know, even though if
he runs the defense when the offense is on the field,
he has to become the CEO, I control the game management.
Has to call time out there even after a couple
seconds he realizes I got a call time out because
I get Caleb to the side. Like at that point
in time, it's a fifty nine yard field goal. We
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gotta be saying, listen, we're gonna try to play here
for like a fifty yard field goal, So can we
get an eight to ten yard completion or gain and
give our field goal unit a chance to get on
the field, and we can tell them during that time.
If I'm Eberflus, look at my special teams coordinator Richard
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high Tower and go get them ready because we're gonna
call the play and if the play works, they're going
on the field. I guess if it's incomplete, maybe we
would have to if we don't feel our guy can
kick a fifty nine yard field goal indoors, we'll have
to throw hail Mary. But we would have essentially two
plays called with the field goal unit. And he didn't
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call a time out, and I had a couple of
people in the NFL It's like, what the hell's Caleb doing.
I'll defend Caleb there. The head coach has to bail
him out. This is not a situation where it's a
delay of game situation and a lot's going like this
is you call that you're standing there. I saw Matt
Ryan say, I saw it went I don't know if
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it went viral. It just got tweeted into my timeline
that that is one hundred percent on the head coach.
He can't panic in that situation. And Ebraflus after the
game is acting like he's in complete control. But he
can't be, because how would you not call a time
out immediately? And I think this is a moment that's
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very symbolic of the organization. I no longer blame Eberflus
after they got thoroughly embarrassed by the New England Patriots,
who we have seen after are god awful, are absolutely
terrible on that Tuesday morning when they fired Shane Waldron.
Not firing Matt Eberflus is a major double middle finger
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to your fan base because ever since you have found
a way to lose three games in three devastatingly different ways,
yet they all are a reflection of the coach. And
this is a coach who is completely over his head,
who has no business being one of the thirty two
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head coaches in the NFL. We knew this last year
and then you tried to have your cake and eat
it too this year, but with the number one pick,
and you knew three or four weeks ago that he
was a dead man walking, that it was over, and listen, like,
maybe Mike McCarthy's job, maybe he does come back, but
you know what, Mike McCarthy, who listened, I'm guilty. I
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thought he was done three or four weeks ago. Mike
McCarthy's a real coach. He's a real fucking NFL coach.
He's coached for fifteen plus years at a high level,
winning since the late two thousand and nine to ten
range when he won a Super Bowl, all through the
twenty tens, and three back to back to back years
with the Cowboys where he won twelve games, and even
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this year will probably end up winning eight or nine.
So yeah, if he gets fired, like yeah, they wanted
to move on, but if he comes back, like yeah,
don't we don't think we can do better than Mike McCarthy.
For them to keep Eberflus is a pretty big indictment
of what they've got going on. But the reality is,
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when Eberflus is fired, whether it's Friday morning, whether it's
Saturday or Sunday, whether it's Monday, or whether it's after
the season, Bears fans know they're just completely screwed because
at the end of the day, their franchise and their
ownership is a joke, and they make Kevin Warren essentially
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the grand pooh bah and the boss of this whole operation,
and he's not even a football guy. So you have
Ryan Poles and Matt Eberflus answering to him currently, which
I would imagine is not going to change, and he's
going to have a major, major say in who the
next head coaches. So I think looking back of Listen,
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maybe Caleb should have caused a stink of where he
was going, and maybe all those people that said and listen,
I didn't buy into it. I thought they were just
too talented. But it shows you that when you have
in that people running an organization, when you have an
EP coaching, you can ever overcome that no matter how
much talent you bring in. And today, like last week,
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like the previous week, like the previous week, I mean,
they lost six raight games in every fashion imaginable blowouts,
ass kickings, blocked field goals, screwed up in overtime, screw
up a timeout, two minute situation. Eberflus, Polls, Kevin Warren,
the mccaskey's, they're all responsible, they really are. So we
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can't even blame anyone else moving forward beside kind of
that unit. And it's kind of sad, it really is,
because look at how when the Lions changed, right, the
Lions specifically turned the corner when they said, here are
the keys to the car. The car sucks right now,
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it's a broken down piece of shit. But Dan and
Brad Holmes, here are the keys. You do whatever you
want with it. You don't have to when you need
to get an oil change, or when you need to
get gas, or we need to change the tires. Answer
to this guy, this guy, and this guy. You guys
figure it out. Whatever you need to do, you do it.
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That's just not how the Bears operate with their football guys.
So until that changes, until they move Kevin Warren out
of anything that goes on with something not the stadium,
I will short this franchise. I really one of my
I would say weakest takes coming into the season, and
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I just kicked myself because I was such a pussy.
I did not like the Bears to make the playoffs.
When it was like the sexy pick, I said, listen,
I expect them to be solid. But they got seven
eight wins written all over. I don't know how I
didn't short them harder because I didn't believe in the organization.
I did not believe in the coach, and I didn't
believe in a rookie quarterback. It's very, very difficult to
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just come in, start to finish and dominate. He's obviously
had some moments. For the most part, it's been all
over the map. It's just hard to overcome dysfunction. And
it's got him now time and time again because he
has moments in these games. We're like, God, Caleb's really
slinging it. And he showed me enough, like you see
that arm strength. We talked about this in the packer.
You know, the difference between Love and Tua is like
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when he lets it rip, like hell yeah, and listen.
I come from the Andy Reid school. I like elite talents.
I like watching that guy throw one hundred miles on
our fastballs. But there's more to football than that's you know,
they're thirty five seconds. Even if you're huffing him puffing
and like that. That's definitely not acceptable. Third or fourth year,
I'm giving him a little bit of a pass. But
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what a year for the Bears. And then the afternoon
game like that, I thought the Cowboys kick their ass
their defense. This overshown guy, the dude they drafted number
thirteen from Texas couple years ago. That play he made
where he tipped to the ball. He was flying around
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hitting people. He's a fun player, obviously having Micah back,
who was all over Drew Locke. Who listen, you don't
need to be Bill Pollian or Brian Gutikins to watch
Drew Lock play in DeVito to play to be like,
in what world did we put de Vito in over him?
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But at the end of the day, this entire offseason
and on hard knocks, they kept hammering home. We are
going to build an offensive line around Daniel Jones. And
you watched last week to Vito get the living crap
kicked out of him, and Drew Lock today was getting hammered.
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You could have put Eli Manning, you could have put
Brett Favre, You could have put Michael Vick back there.
He would have been a sitting duck. Maybe Michael could
have ran around a little. But when you can't block
a soul, you got no shot none. It's like I
didn't like the Cowboys. Like my favorite bet on the
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board coming in today was Green Bay, just based on
the cold weather in Miami. But I just like Dallas
at home with the New York Giants given all the
weirdness that's going on with the Giants. But then the
moment like Wednesday happened and it was like, ah, de
veto he's too beat up. He just might not be
able to play. I was like, you know, it could
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be weird. You know, Drew Locke motivated, you got Brady,
which I understood Brady shitting on Daniel Jones the situation
because I don't know if he was told this, but
like Daniel Jones wanted out right, Daniel Jones asked them
for his release, And in Tom's mind, that's pretty offensive
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because he has been in situations and he seen it
with other players where they just stick it out. But
I remember reading two weeks ago or I guess when
was he cut earlier? Five six days ago? My days
are kind of I guess middle of last week, right
is Daniel Jones asked him. He's like, listen, he got benched. Whatever,
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You're not going to be the backup, and Daniel's like, okay,
I'll do whatever it takes. Can I play Scout team quarterback,
I'll play Scout team safety and things. Brady was saying today, Well,
the Giants told him no because part of the reason
they benched him they don't want him to get hurt. Well,
if you get hurt in the game, or you get
hurt in the practice, the same thing. Well, if you're
playing Scout team safety and you cut, you tear your ACL,
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they still be on the hook twenty three or twenty
four million dollars. So they basically just wanted Daniel Jones
to sit on the sideline with his hands in his
pockets because they want no risk of him getting injured.
So Daniel Jones is like, you just want me to
sit here on the sideline, So I do respect Daniel
Jones going on, yeah, listen, like I'm not I respect
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you guys giving me all this money. Clearly have not
earned it. Everyone's talking shit about me on the internet.
But I don't plan on just going to cold tub
the sauna, lifting some weights and sitting here, you know,
with my hands in my pockets watching practice for the
next month and a half. Fuck that, Like, I do
want to participate. So I think that kind of went
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viral today of Brady crushing him. I think Brady's a
little misinformed how it all went down. According to Diana Russini,
she reported that I think last week that he was like, well,
I don't want to do nothing, and I think more
and more people around the Giants were like, yeah, I
was just they just wanted him to stay on the side,
so Brady's mind, because Brady said, like, I would have
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played safety. Well, he tried and they said no, which
I understand from the Giants. So really the only way
is kind of to cut him is the only way
to really keep him on ice with much time left
to go in the season, but they officially became the
first team to get eliminated from the playoffs. And I
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just don't think we've ever seen anything quite like the
hard knock situation what has transpired with Saquon and then
their team which is now two and ten two and
they were were they two and nine coming into two
and ten. They're not gonna win another They are terrible.
They cannot block a soul. Their defense is atrocious. Their
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playmakers on the secondary are awful, you know, Bibbodeo, Brian Burns,
Dexter Lawrence, Like, yeah, those guys are good, but if
the rest of your defense is just awful, you got
no shot and you're watching your going I don't know, man,
I get John Mora, who wants these guys to work,
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but you end up going three and fourteen in year three.
That's tough to get essentially blasted by the Cowboys on
Thanksgiving when their backup quarterback is playing and they just
kind of embarrass you in what is typically the highest
rated game of the day. That's the thing about today,
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like ebra Flus with that moment. This is not Sunday morning,
Like you're not playing the Lions the morning slate of games,
and there's six other games going on, so it's a
big deal. But the three other things happen, they're also
big and we make fun of you, but there is like, hey,
did you see that one catch that Justin Jefferson had
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and that crazy pass by Mahomes, Like there are other
things going on. Nothing is going on. Everyone just watching
that happen. So then the Cowboy Giants game comes on,
like half the country's just sitting at home eating or
laying on the couch watching, you get clowned, and unlike
basketball or baseball, if it was the equivalent on a
Holi day of teams that were I mean, beside the
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Packers to day, we didn't have a winning record at Lions.
Beside the Packers and the Lions. We had a bunch
of teams that are well under five hundred. Giants are
two and nine, the Cowboys the Giant. The Dolphins are
under five hundred. The Bears are under five hundred. If
it was the equivalent of these other no one would
watch and it wouldn't even matter. But it's the NFL,
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and even if you suck, we're all zoned in and
I'm watching ebra Flus have one of the worst late
moment games you'll ever see, and then try to justify
it after you have day ball standing there. Look at
good by the way as someone who needs to lose
a little weight. And I had a good start to
the week Monday through Wednesday, but then Thanksgiving. It's that
I admire whatever he's doing. Ozempic's kind of a little
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cheat code, but if it's true, just work out some
salads and stuff. Hat tip to you. Just the teams
fucking joke, I mean absolutely, because the Cowboys were like
the butt of everyone's joke up a couple of weeks ago,
and they just kick your ass with Cooper Rush, whichever
of the throw like Cooper Rush would have a throw
like played golf with a buddy yesterday, Bill Pacota, who
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played Major League Baseball for like a decade, played like
Bo Jackson, George Brett and he's from Big Kansasy Chiefs guy,
and he was like, what's up with this cowboy quarterback?
He's like, how could he be in the NFL. I'm like, well,
the thing with backups is like, ideally you can have
a long career if you never really have to play,
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and if you do have to play a couple of
games and it goes well, you can extend your career.
Like this guy played in the NFL twelve years and
he has six career starts. But you get these guys,
if they have like fifteen career starts, their career is
going to be shortened. So if it was like you know,
it was like an economics class and we were doing
a chart of like the supply demand chart. If the
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chart of years played and games started for backups, you
want that game star. If you're a high character, people
like you, you know, good teammate, smart guy knows the offense,
can pick up things fast. You want your game started
to be low and then your years in the NFL
go up. But the moment you start playing more, you
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get wiped out. Because's like, God, this guy sucks. So
Cooper Rush is hanging on there by a thread like
he had that little stretch a couple of years ago
when Dak got injured. Was great because the team was good.
He didn't have to do that much. Tho his win
loss record look good. But then this year he's thrown
back into the fire. Luckily some of the defensive guys
are back, but overall, the Cowboys looked at their schedule.
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That was one thing. Like we said about the Green
Bay Big Game coming up against the Lions, Giants completely
screwed Miami. To me, then ver Broncos are one win
away if they win on Sunday, like your playoff hopes
are over and the Cowboys kind of interesting. Can they
get to ten and seven? I don't know, but I
don't think it's shocking if they were to get ten,
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nine and eight. You know the Eagles that they have
to go to Philadelphia. I think we're all gonna give
them an l on that one. But you still play.
You know, Washington's got a lot of issues. I don't know,
I just the Cowboys. And this is why, and I
mentioned this the other day, why I think Jerry had
said Mike could come back because he didn't want those
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guys to quit. Now, he might not be lying, but
he didn't want those guys to quit, and those guys
didn't quit. Now, one thing really quick before we get
out of here. It's been pretty obvious that the NFL
wants to put a game every single week at six
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point thirty in the morning Pacific Standard time in London
or somewhere overseas. They aspire to do that. Roger Goodell
told the Sports Business Journal this week did we plan
in the next five years of having a sixteen game
overseas sched Next year they plan on having eight games overseas,
three in London, one in Germany, one in Spain, one
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in Brazil, one in Mexico City, and potentially one in Ireland.
Why are they doing this, Well, they have a Thursday
Night package that they sell for like a billion dollars.
They have a Monday night package in which they sell
for a boatload of money. While this is on Sunday
a lot like Sunday Night Football, this can become its
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own package. Now I don't want this. I'm not into this.
I'm cool with just the three sets of games, the
one in the morning, the one in the afternoon and
then Sunday night football. But it was pretty obvious, I
would say this year, or definitely the last couple of years,
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they were getting more aggressive with international play and at
one time we're like, well, those is gonna put a
team in London. Well that's probably not gonna happen, especially
with the Jags doubling down on their practicacility and everything.
In Jacksonville. Where this was probably always headed though, was
to sell as a separate package like, hey, Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, whoever,
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we have sixteen games for you to buy independently six
thirty Pacific standard time, sixteen a year. Here it is
three revenue. These games were being played regardless that exact game,
the New England Patriots against the Indianapolis Colts, the Jacksonville
Jaguars against the New York Jets, you fucking name the
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stupid games would have been a throwing game on your
third TV on a box in the corner that you're
not really even paying attention to unless you're a fan
of one of those two teams. They are now gonna
package and by the time they sell this in five years,
when you factor in inflation, for probably a couple billion
dollars a year. And the other thing Roger mentioned is
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we're going to eighteen games, which we all knew was
coming anyway, because they're gonna have two preseason games. But
these international games. I mean, look at all these packages now, Christmas, Thanksgiving, Thursday, Monday, Sunday,
the International package in the morning. Like there are only
so many ways, Like they're not gonna expand the league.
There's no cities that they're missing out on that then
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go in. So you gotta find ways to develop new
revenue streams. And the international package just happens to be
a billion dollar revenue streams. So we'll keep it positive here.
Fugazi Friday, the only fugazi was me not giving sweet
potato pie more love the moment I bit into it
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and I love sweet potato fries. Not even sure if
it's the exact same thing, but it had an excellent flavor.
It was very impressed. So happy Thanksgiving. Grateful for everyone
that listens and participates in the comments, dms me and
talk talks to your friends about the podcast that you
like and get more people to UH to listen. So thanks,
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have a great weekend and cheers to UH from me
and my family to years and we will see you
guys Sunday. The volume m
The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?
Happy Thanksgiving? Cheers from my family to yours. Hopefully everyone
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had a great Thanksgiving. I said one massive meal today.
It's weird because today is such a great day and
you're eating. You're like, it's not that unhealthy, but you
eat so much. I just can't help it. The older
you get, you think you'd be like, hey, you don't
need to eat that much, but you just stuff your face,
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didn't move. Watch a lot of football. That's what we
will be talking about here. The Packers house, the house,
the Dolphins, the Cowboys beat the Giants, and the Chicago
Bears lose. Again, no guarantee they would have won, but
eber Flus clearly made sure of that that they did
not by his time out situation. So we will dive
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into all that as well as something I saw from
Roger Goodell today. So hopefully everyone had a great day
and the game. Here's the game plan. We're gonna have
no reaction to Chiefs Raiders. Just try to enjoy a
couple of days here and then we will be back
on the football horse. Comes Sunday, I will do what
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we do every week afternoon with Colin and then Sunday
Night Bill's verse the forty nine ers. So that could
be an ass kicking if the Niners don't get it
together and get it together quick, but that will be
the game plan for the next couple of days. So
this was just a little improv too show. I thought,
you know, we didn't go anywhere, just order some food
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food Gazi Friday. But today's a positive day, so we're
gonna enjoy it. Nothing negative beside actually some props to
the old Sweet Potato Pie, which was very Impress's not
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You know it's funny. When it was twenty four to
three at halftime with the Green Bay Packers, just working
the Miami Dolphins. I thought, you know what, let's go
to the weather app on the iPhone. And obviously all
week we had heard I guess all week the last
three days about all the stats involving the Miami Dolphins,
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involving Tua Tonguavailoa and how they play in cold weather.
Tua's record now is zero to eight in games under
forty degrees. Miami now has a putrid record over the
last like fifteen games in cold weather games. They have
looked terrible in most primetime games under Mike McDaniel. And
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when you factor in now recent cold weather games going
back the last two years, in both Decembers and obviously
in the two playoff games against the Bills and the Chiefs,
it has not gone well. And today, you know, when
I started recording, it was thirty to seventeen. The number
looks a little closer than the game was. And the
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weather today in Miami was eighty five degrees, which has
to be one of the nicest climates on Thanksgiving Day
in all of America. Hell, where I live in Scottsdale,
which is an incredible winter climate, it's like seventy two
degrees eighty five degrees. That's about as good as you get.
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And then they showed the on during the broadcast when
it started snowing, it was like twenty seven degrees in
Green Bay, which I would imagine feels even colder when
you factor in the wind and the snow coming down.
So you have basically a sixty degree difference between Miami
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and Green Bay, Wisconsin. And listen, I'm someone who born
and raised in a warm weather climate. I fucking hate
the cold. I used to like skiing, Now I don't
want to risk getting injured or anything, so I don't
even if I'm gonna go to the mountains. I'm basically
just drinking and hanging during the winter. Summer do normal activities,
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but winter like, you won't find me in the slope
on the slopes anymore, especially because these lift tickets are
like Squaw Valley and North Star and places in Lake
Taho are like seven hundred dollars for a day. But
that's a whole another story. But the reality is just
these are human beings, and let's face it, Miami, I
wouldn't say is built like the eighty five piers right
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from a physical toughness standpoint, the way they want to play,
spread the ball out and sling it around. This is inevitable.
What human being, what group of human beings could have
a sixty degree difference from eighty five degrees to twenty
five degrees playing a sport like football and have a
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snowball's chance in hell to compete like It's not that complicated.
This is one of those that's very black and white.
Of course, they don't translate well to these cold weather games.
It's basically impossible to in what world. The Mike McDaniel
made a joke this week, I think on his press
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conference on Monday or Tuesday. They asked him what he
was gonna do to get ready, and you know he's
kind of a quirky as press conference are a little weird.
He joked that he was gonna have ice cubes in
his pockets and everyone laughed. He he what could he do? Honestly,
what could he possibly do to prepare for that change
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in climate. There was one time one of the most
famous viral photos of my of the Internet age with
the San Francisco forty nine ers, was when Chip Kelly
was the coach of the Niners and they had one
of their worst seasons in franchise history, and I think
statistically the worst defense ever. I forget who they played.
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It might have been Tampa and they stayed, or might
have been Miami and they stayed in Florida and they
were playing the Bears the following week, so they basically
didn't come home. And the weather in Chicago was supposed
to be bad. Turns out it was. It's like a snowstorm,
and there was this clip of someone like spraying water
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on the kicker or a guy catching the ball. I mean,
it was pretty embarrassing. And then they went and played
the Bears and I'm pretty sure Matt Barkley was the
quarterback and they lost by several touchdowns, and the visual
did not do justice to the final score. Like it's
just hard when you have that, but like there's nothing
you can do to prepare for that weather unless you
travel immediately to that weather and play in it. And then,
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let's face it, like when you scout or when you
work for a team and you coach and you're getting
ready to pick players to come to your team, and
we've talked about this before, defensive players kind of translate,
like if you're a physical defender, whether you're a warm
weather team, whether you're a cold weather team, I'm gonna
watch you on my squad. But offensive guys like I
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gotta do some digging, specifically with quarterbacks. And you watch
Jordan Love and you go, I see why Gudikins and
Lafloor liked him a lot. You see. I mean, obviously
he's turned into a really good player, and I mean
he's got a chance. I mean he's gonna go to
the playoffs again for the Green Bay Packers starting quarterback.
They're gonna easily win double digit games. He's just a very,
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very talented guy. But his arm strength really stands out
because you could not be the Green Bay Packers quarterback
with a weak arm. You have no fucking chance. None.
Just like playing in New York, playing in New England,
playing in Philadelphia, playing in colder weather spots. If you
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do not have a strong arm, it's hard to play
in that you know, wind, cold, it's tough. It's why
we talk about hand size. You know, it always goes
becomes a big part of the conversation. Sometimes it goes
viral when people are making fun of these quarterbacks with
small hands, and it matters because when it starts, it's
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hard to grip the ball well. If you play in
southern California or in a dulme like who cares right,
Jared Goff does not have big hands. Well historically, he's
never played that well outside well, most of his career
right beside road games, has been in Los Angeles and
has been in a dome in Detroit. So you can
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kind of make up for it based on your own
ability to control the variables. So he's benefited from that.
If you put him in New England or New York,
it'd be or Cleveland, it'd be a lot harder. It's
like you look back on them going for Deshaun Watson
in Cleveland, You're like, you're getting a dude from the
South who does not have a big arm. And this
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was before he sucked, even when he was playing well.
It's like, ah, this is gonna be tough. It's why
Flako I had a lot of success. His ball pierces
all the cold, the wind, the cold air, like it translates, Well,
where's he from? Delaware, PA, Penn State, Baltimore, Cleveland, Like
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that shit works. And you watch Jordan Love obviously they've
turned him in to a really good player. But to me,
you could never draft a quarterback as like you're a
franchise guy in Green Bay if they do not have
a big arm, and it just happens that far you know,
might have one of the biggest arms in NFL history.
Rogers isn't far behind, and Jordan Love clearly is one
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of the best arms in the league. So you just
watch Miami, you go like, yeah, I understand you're watching
them play in this game. They're just kind of dinking
and Duncan because Tua's not going to be able to
throw bombs. His arm does not going to work in
that situation. And honestly, listen, I've gained a lot of
respect for Tua ever since the last fencing moment, Like
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he's like I get him, like, and I understand why
Saban liked him. I understand why Mike McDaniels likes him.
I understand why. Like, it's just he's an easy guy
to root for, and he's probably a better quarterback than
people like me that are critical of them. But this
if you gamble, Honestly, I was kind of pissed at myself.
(12:08):
I should have put five x what I ended up
putting on this game, and this was the only game
that I bet of the day, partly because the morning games,
you're like, you're gonna be watching them anyway. I needed
a little juice to watch this thing. It's been a
long day, you've had a bunch of food. I wanted
to be into it, but also I knew, like, there's
no chance in Miami's gonna win this game, absolutely zero,
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when you factor in the franchise, when you factor in
their quarterback, when you factor in their coach. And what happened.
They get their fucking ass kicked. It was twenty four
to three at halftime, and it didn't even feel that close.
So you look some of these final scores, it's like
same thing with the second game with the Giants and
the Cowboys, Like, what was a final score twenty seven
to twenty. It was a one score. It was not
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a one score game that wasn't ass kicking. But you know,
the Packers, it's funny, they're a big trait driven organization,
and I was thinking, I mentioned earlier, the sweet Potato
Pie is one of the wildest experiences I've ever had
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because at this point in time, besides like some delicacies,
and things that you would have at some of these
like restaurants that you know, these fu food restaurants that
I'm probably never going to and don't really aspire to
go to, you know, like movie or shows like The
Bear like stuff like that. I'm not really into that
type food. But for the most part, I've probably dabbled
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in most foods, especially when it comes to desserts. Now,
I'm not a huge pie guy to begin with, but
I would say that I've I've had most pies. I've
never had sweet potato pie, and it blew my mind.
I was like, how do more people not discuss this
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pie like we do apple, like we do pumpkin Like?
Do you think about it when you just talk about pies?
Apple pie and pumpkin pie? I would say, are the
most consistently discussed pies. I saw today, as most of
you did as well, when we were watching the Sunday
Night Game and they put up Matt Lafleur his favorite
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food on Thanksgiving is ribbi. I like Matt Lafleur a lot.
That is insanity. I mean that truly is you can
need a ribby three hundred and fifty four or how
many gays are there three hundred and sixty five, three
hundred and sixty four days here to choose ribbi, like
because I don't like turkey. It's like, come on, man,
they eat some ham. You're not eating a ribbi a
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ribbi on Thanksgiving. I'll give you a prime rib But like,
come on, we need to have a conversation with Matt.
But listen, you see that body type like he ain't
putting many bad things into his body. But you saw
Kalas Campbell say banana cream pie and listen, banana cream
pie is pretty good. You know. I once was invited
over to Andy Ree's house on Thanksgiving, and I remember
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it's on my parents. I'm like, well, I gotta bring something,
and they're like, uh, well, go to one of the
local bakeries. It's Philadelphia. And I went into the local
bakery and I said, what's the best thing you have?
Cake pie, whatever, like the banana cream pie. So I
walked right in with that banana cream pie and it
was fantastic. But when it comes to sweet potato pie,
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it was an eye opening experience. And I think it
relates to NFL offenses because when I think we go,
who's the best NFL offense. You go the Detroit Lions, right,
they got Saint Brown, they got Laporta, they got multiple
running backs, they got the offensive line, they got Ben
Johnson's unstoppable offense. Say the same thing about the Baltimore
ravens Lamar Jackson. He's gonna win fifteen MVPs. Dereck Henry
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going right to the Hall of Fame, Zay Flowers next
Tyreek Hill. They got multiple tight ends. Offense is unstoppable.
And I'm watching the Packers and I go, I don't
feel like we talk enough about this offense relative to
the best offense in the league. They have, You know,
the quarterback can throw some picks, but when he's on
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his talent and that arm strength threw a snowstorm whoop
throwing dots. They have Jaden Reid, which we definitely never
talk about him when it comes to just high level
wide receivers. And I'm going, that guy could play for
my team any day of the week. If Watson catches
the ball, he literally runs by every defensive back in
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the NFL. I take wicks every time I watch the Packers.
That guy makes some plays. Tucker the tight end is fantastic,
and Jacobs like everyone and rightfully so, Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry.
It's like Josh Jacobs. I mean, this guy was a
first round pick from Alabama, and I was saying last year,
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coming into the year, I thought he was a better
player than Saquon. Now, Saquon is a much faster running back,
so when you get into the open field, but in
terms of hands and pass protection, Josh Jacobs is about
as complete of a running back as you will find.
Just a fantastic player. And oh yeah, they're head coach.
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What is he? Oh, he's the offensive play caller. And
I was also thinking, like you know, when you think
big picture. In the NFC North, everyone loves Dan Campbell
and what he's done with the Lions is remarkable. It
really is. I mean it's like taking over a bankrupt
business and turn them into fucking Apple or Google. I mean,
be eleven and one with the Detroit Lions, who you
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just took to the NFC Championship game and were winning
the game on the road. It's awesome. I'm a Dan
Campbell fan. There's a pretty good chance he loses both coordinators.
You would think this is the year Ben Johnson accepts
a head coaching job. Said it the moment Dennis Allen
got fired. Aaron Glenn to the Saints. It makes a
ton of sense. Keep an eye. Aaron Glenn to the
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New Orleans Saints. So he's gonna lose both of his coordinators.
He's not the player, he's a hardball. So who he
hires as coordinators? And you know, maybe he elevates some
guys maybe, but you never know, it might not be
the same. And Kevin O'Connell is a lot like Lafleur,
stud offensive coordinator guy everyone likes. Look at his quarterback situation.
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Sam Donald is gonna be a free agent. The teams
are gonna be desperate. I'm sure he's gonna get a
lot of money, and they'll probably be hesitant to pay him.
I've talked with Colin about it, like I would not
let him go, but that's not usually the way the
business works in the NFL. They probably will. Why do
you think they signed Daniel Jones Because they probably want
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to make Daniel Jones be the next Sam Donald just
in case JJ can't roll. I mean, did he tore
his knee up and then he needed another surgery Like
a couple weeks ago, so we got major big picture
question marks with the quarterback position with the Minnesota Vikings,
and obviously the Bears are just a shit show of
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an organization when it comes to coach in front and
just an operation. So really, if you're the Packers, you're
not competing against the Bears. You're competing against the Vikings
and the Lions, who now have one team has a
quarterback question big picture and the other just gonna have,
you know, coordinator position big picture question marks. Well, you
have neither. Your quarterback is under a long term deal.
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He's an excelle player. You could have moments that drives
you nuts, but it's like, I can live with it
if he's an explosive offensive player like he is, and
you never have to worry about your offensive coordinator being
poached because he's the head man, and even your defensive
coordinator like, look what happened. He hired athlete from Boston
College and more than likely like Halfley's going to be
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there for a couple of years. So if I'm a
Packer fan, you got to be feeling pretty good about
your chances and looking forward. You know, one thing with
the Lions is watching that game, it felt like every
three plays there was a Lion laying on the ground
or limping off the field. It was insane. I start
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feeling bad. I'm like, this is bullshit. If you're a
Detroit Lion fan and you're thirty, forty fifty years old,
you've waited your whole life for this moment, and your
team is incredible, and it feels like over the last
three or it's one thing to lose Aiden Hutchinson, but
the last couple of weeks, it's like we are losing
multiple players every game. And I was like, well, no
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team needs this mini buy or just some extra days
off more than the Lions. And maybe because I was
like getting food ready, and maybe they talked about in
the broadcast, I had it muted for most of it. Well,
you're watching the Packer game. Who they play next week?
They play next Thursday. And the NFL is good at this.
They usually take two of the teams that play today
and they make them play next Thursday, which is kind
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of throwing them a bone. They get a real week,
but you actually don't get the benefits of that mini
by and the Packers who are now or they ate
three and you got the Lions eleven and one. It's
not like there's some seven game gap between the two
of them. So all of a sudden, if you're the Packers,
you feel pretty good going to Detroit where, let's face it,
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your team's kind of built like an indoor team. Your
offense is humming, and you're getting a defense who knows
how many guys are gonna be healthy for them. So
this is the crazy part about the Lions season is
it couldn't go anybody. They're fucking eleven and one, the
greatest start in the history of the franchise. And I
would say for most franchises moving forward, like you don't
usually start eleven and one, that is an incredible start.
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And they still got guys nipping on their heels like,
by no means can they even take a deep breath.
So it's Packers are in a good position. Man. This
is a massive what a great Thursday night game. One
thing though, that I did jot down and this is
it's just something that interests me, maybe it interests you.
One thing the Packers historically have always done, and this
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is why they have Jordan Love, This is why they
have Aaron Rodgers, this is why they took a guy
like Christian Watson from North Dakota State. They love what
people call in the scouting community and GMS and you
know college scouting directors. Term they use is hightweight speed.
They love hightweight speed guys. High weight speed guys mean
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just like the opposite of Bryce Young or Tua big strong,
built guys that can move right. And Luke Vanes who
had a sack tonight. I remember hearing about him a
couple of years ago a lot because he was this
rising prospect, this freak show from Iowa. He had never
started a game at Iowa, which isn't that crazy. Iowa
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has a good defense. They get a lot of guys drafted,
but I would say, if you've never started a game
in college, to go. Luke Faness was drafted a number
thirteen overall, and he's shown some signs. I'm watching him
a night like looks a little stiff to me. But
I remember a lot of people liked him. A lot
of people thought he was going to go really high
in the draft. Then he did. But he's never started
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a game now in a year and a half for
the Green Bay Packers. And I think sometimes when you
draft these high weight speed guys, The Packers love this
because they've historically had a lot of good coaches, so
they can take these kind of raw products Jordan Love,
Luke Vans, Christian Watson and kind of muld you into
a high end player and it works a lot for him.
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But also it can't burn you. It's like, now, I
looked at the draft, A lot of guys that went
after him. There wasn't some like Micah Parsons didn't go next,
So it's not like they passed on some no brainer.
A lot of offensive skill guys also went after him.
They're clearly loaded at those positions, so I'm not necessarily
acting like they could have easily taken player acts or
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player why but it goot listen this. I would say
these last two years have been a pretty incredible moment
for just a lifetime scout, a guy that's worked at
a organization since the late nineties, pretty big muscle. Flex
I was talking to a buddy in the league about this.
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He traded an all time great quarterback a lot like
Pete Carroll and John Schneider did that they did not want,
Like I don't want this player anymore. We don't plan
on starting him anymore. He's done with us, and we
actually don't really think he can play that well anymore.
And they got a first and a second round pick
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for the guy. Obviously, the Seattle Seahawks got a lot
more for Russell Wilson of Granted he was a lot younger,
but still like anytime you could get one first round pick,
like when the Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill. It's not like
they didn't still want Tyreek Hill, or they wouldn't be
the first to acknowledge. Yeah, he's one of the best
players in the league. We just have to pick and
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choose who we can pay right, and we just this
is gonna be a bold move. We think he's awesome,
we expect him to still be good, but we just
can't I pay him twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven
million dollars a year whatever Miami ended up paying him, right,
But we're not acting like this guy is trending down.
The Packers went, this guy, we're over this, we want
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out of this business. We want a divorce. You can
have her. Except they got and honestly, if he hadn't
torn as achilles, they ever got two first round picks.
So Goot has been incredible but I would say that
pick he got a little bold. You know, he and
I talked to some other people that said listen on
our draft boards. We liked him a lot too, and
I get it. I would say this if you've in
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If you can't start, I probably shouldn't take you in
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But let's let's stay in the AFC North. I think
we kind of talked about the Lions, like eleven and one.
I'm storry to get a little nervous for them, just
how many guys are being injured. It's it's it's not
even like guys getting carted off all the time. It
felt like every other play today, someone would be holding
their hands, someone would be holding their knees, someone would
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be limping off, someone would be shaking, And it's like,
this is not a sustainable way. We are not close
enough to the end of the season, and they are
by no means a lock, despite having the greatest season
in franchise history and feeling like the best team in
the NFL to even be the number one seed. And
if they're not the one, it's not even just the
number one seed. They got Minnesota and Green Bay right
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on their ass. It'd be one thing if they had
a several game lead, and even if they weren't the
number one overall seed, they'd be the number two seed,
Like they're gonna lock to win the division, Like the
margin isn't that big, And it's why, Damn Campbell, why
I defend them when people are like, why is he
still playing starters? Like this is the NFL, this isn't
college football. We you have ninety guys dressed, you only
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have you don't even have fifty three guys dressed, right,
you dress forty five to forty six guys and a
couple of them are a kicker and your punter. So
I don't even have ten offensive linemen. I can't just
yank my starters or I have ten DB's, like my
dbs are my DB's. I got a couple guys that rotate,
but those guys play special teams, so I kind of
gotta be careful. And I they were kicking the Bears ass,
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but it was sixteen nothing in halftime. Three of the
field or three field goals instead of touchdowns, and two
of them came in the red zone. They kicked the
field goal at the twelve yard line, they kicked the
field goal at the eighteen yard line. But you're watching
that game thinking this is a the Bears, like is
this serious? Are you guys even gonna try? But then
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through just the you're sure volume of guys going down
for the Bears or excuse me, the Lions. Caleb kind
of got hot and Keenan Allen scored a couple of touchdowns.
All of a sudden, You've got a game, and you're like, ah,
this kind of feels like they're making it kind of
a fake game. And then all of a sudden, the
Bears down three points, have the ball driving, and I
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look at Maria and I just put a food away
and we were gonna cook a couple of dishes to
go with the food that we had got. And when
I think the Lions might I think that Caleb's going
to lead them on a touchdown drive right here. But
I'm doing a couple of things. I'm not like sitting
on the couch taking notes watching this part of the game,
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because I had already in my mind accepted that the
game was over like ten to twenty minutes before that point.
But then I'm watching and they're driving. I'm like, the
Lions are going to lose this game. Then all of
a sudden, Caleb Williams gets sacked, and I think he
gets sacked at the thirty five thirty six second mark,
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and I'm kind of not really just obviously I knew
they had a time out because you could see the
little dot do something, just thinking that hey, they'll take
a time out, they'll it was going to be a
long field goal. Maybe they will try to get a
chuck play and then rush the field goal unit on
which when you're the Bears, is no lock to even work.
But listen, if you get the field goal blocked again,
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we will just acknowledge your unit is the worst field
goal unit we've ever seen. But you're still gonna get
a field goal off. And if anyone that's watched any
of the postgame locker room from the Bears, multiple players
are like, yeah, I just thought we were gonna get
a field goal. Not only they not call time out,
we all know the story by now, they get one play.
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Now it was third down, so it wasn't like they
had a chance. I've seen a lot I saw. Terry
Bradshaw was like, I would have got four plays and thirty.
It was third down and it was third and twenty.
It was long way to go. But to not call
a time out, and then for Eberflus after the game
to say that we liked what we did. And I
had a couple of people texting me like what was
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Caleb doing? I will defend Caleb in this spot. Thursday,
short week seasons been a disaster late in the game.
You got to be exhausted that this is not a
six year pro. This is not Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
Patrick Mahomes, justin Herbert Jalen Hurts. This is not a
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guy with forty to fifty sixty seventy starts under his belt,
one hundred starts. This is a guy that has about
ten starts under his belt in the National Football League
on the road on Thanksgiving. Who's gotta be huffing and
puffing and listen, he's a disaster in that situation. But
I'm sorry the head coach who is not the play
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caller on offense, who when you know, even though if
he runs the defense when the offense is on the field,
he has to become the CEO, I control the game management.
Has to call time out there even after a couple
seconds he realizes I got a call time out because
I get Caleb to the side. Like at that point
in time, it's a fifty nine yard field goal. We
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gotta be saying, listen, we're gonna try to play here
for like a fifty yard field goal, So can we
get an eight to ten yard completion or gain and
give our field goal unit a chance to get on
the field, and we can tell them during that time.
If I'm Eberflus, look at my special teams coordinator Richard
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high Tower and go get them ready because we're gonna
call the play and if the play works, they're going
on the field. I guess if it's incomplete, maybe we
would have to if we don't feel our guy can
kick a fifty nine yard field goal indoors, we'll have
to throw hail Mary. But we would have essentially two
plays called with the field goal unit. And he didn't
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call a time out, and I had a couple of
people in the NFL It's like, what the hell's Caleb doing.
I'll defend Caleb there. The head coach has to bail
him out. This is not a situation where it's a
delay of game situation and a lot's going like this
is you call that you're standing there. I saw Matt
Ryan say, I saw it went I don't know if
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it went viral. It just got tweeted into my timeline
that that is one hundred percent on the head coach.
He can't panic in that situation. And Ebraflus after the
game is acting like he's in complete control. But he
can't be, because how would you not call a time
out immediately? And I think this is a moment that's
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very symbolic of the organization. I no longer blame Eberflus
after they got thoroughly embarrassed by the New England Patriots,
who we have seen after are god awful, are absolutely
terrible on that Tuesday morning when they fired Shane Waldron.
Not firing Matt Eberflus is a major double middle finger
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to your fan base because ever since you have found
a way to lose three games in three devastatingly different ways,
yet they all are a reflection of the coach. And
this is a coach who is completely over his head,
who has no business being one of the thirty two
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head coaches in the NFL. We knew this last year
and then you tried to have your cake and eat
it too this year, but with the number one pick,
and you knew three or four weeks ago that he
was a dead man walking, that it was over, and listen, like,
maybe Mike McCarthy's job, maybe he does come back, but
you know what, Mike McCarthy, who listened, I'm guilty. I
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thought he was done three or four weeks ago. Mike
McCarthy's a real coach. He's a real fucking NFL coach.
He's coached for fifteen plus years at a high level,
winning since the late two thousand and nine to ten
range when he won a Super Bowl, all through the
twenty tens, and three back to back to back years
with the Cowboys where he won twelve games, and even
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this year will probably end up winning eight or nine.
So yeah, if he gets fired, like yeah, they wanted
to move on, but if he comes back, like yeah,
don't we don't think we can do better than Mike McCarthy.
For them to keep Eberflus is a pretty big indictment
of what they've got going on. But the reality is,
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when Eberflus is fired, whether it's Friday morning, whether it's
Saturday or Sunday, whether it's Monday, or whether it's after
the season, Bears fans know they're just completely screwed because
at the end of the day, their franchise and their
ownership is a joke, and they make Kevin Warren essentially
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the grand pooh bah and the boss of this whole operation,
and he's not even a football guy. So you have
Ryan Poles and Matt Eberflus answering to him currently, which
I would imagine is not going to change, and he's
going to have a major, major say in who the
next head coaches. So I think looking back of Listen,
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maybe Caleb should have caused a stink of where he
was going, and maybe all those people that said and listen,
I didn't buy into it. I thought they were just
too talented. But it shows you that when you have
in that people running an organization, when you have an
EP coaching, you can ever overcome that no matter how
much talent you bring in. And today, like last week,
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like the previous week, like the previous week, I mean,
they lost six raight games in every fashion imaginable blowouts,
ass kickings, blocked field goals, screwed up in overtime, screw
up a timeout, two minute situation. Eberflus, Polls, Kevin Warren,
the mccaskey's, they're all responsible, they really are. So we
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can't even blame anyone else moving forward beside kind of
that unit. And it's kind of sad, it really is,
because look at how when the Lions changed, right, the
Lions specifically turned the corner when they said, here are
the keys to the car. The car sucks right now,
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it's a broken down piece of shit. But Dan and
Brad Holmes, here are the keys. You do whatever you
want with it. You don't have to when you need
to get an oil change, or when you need to
get gas, or we need to change the tires. Answer
to this guy, this guy, and this guy. You guys
figure it out. Whatever you need to do, you do it.
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That's just not how the Bears operate with their football guys.
So until that changes, until they move Kevin Warren out
of anything that goes on with something not the stadium,
I will short this franchise. I really one of my
I would say weakest takes coming into the season, and
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I just kicked myself because I was such a pussy.
I did not like the Bears to make the playoffs.
When it was like the sexy pick, I said, listen,
I expect them to be solid. But they got seven
eight wins written all over. I don't know how I
didn't short them harder because I didn't believe in the organization.
I did not believe in the coach, and I didn't
believe in a rookie quarterback. It's very, very difficult to
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just come in, start to finish and dominate. He's obviously
had some moments. For the most part, it's been all
over the map. It's just hard to overcome dysfunction. And
it's got him now time and time again because he
has moments in these games. We're like, God, Caleb's really
slinging it. And he showed me enough, like you see
that arm strength. We talked about this in the packer.
You know, the difference between Love and Tua is like
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when he lets it rip, like hell yeah, and listen.
I come from the Andy Reid school. I like elite talents.
I like watching that guy throw one hundred miles on
our fastballs. But there's more to football than that's you know,
they're thirty five seconds. Even if you're huffing him puffing
and like that. That's definitely not acceptable. Third or fourth year,
I'm giving him a little bit of a pass. But
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what a year for the Bears. And then the afternoon
game like that, I thought the Cowboys kick their ass
their defense. This overshown guy, the dude they drafted number
thirteen from Texas couple years ago. That play he made
where he tipped to the ball. He was flying around
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hitting people. He's a fun player, obviously having Micah back,
who was all over Drew Locke. Who listen, you don't
need to be Bill Pollian or Brian Gutikins to watch
Drew Lock play in DeVito to play to be like,
in what world did we put de Vito in over him?
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But at the end of the day, this entire offseason
and on hard knocks, they kept hammering home. We are
going to build an offensive line around Daniel Jones. And
you watched last week to Vito get the living crap
kicked out of him, and Drew Lock today was getting hammered.
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You could have put Eli Manning, you could have put
Brett Favre, You could have put Michael Vick back there.
He would have been a sitting duck. Maybe Michael could
have ran around a little. But when you can't block
a soul, you got no shot none. It's like I
didn't like the Cowboys. Like my favorite bet on the
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board coming in today was Green Bay, just based on
the cold weather in Miami. But I just like Dallas
at home with the New York Giants given all the
weirdness that's going on with the Giants. But then the
moment like Wednesday happened and it was like, ah, de
veto he's too beat up. He just might not be
able to play. I was like, you know, it could
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be weird. You know, Drew Locke motivated, you got Brady,
which I understood Brady shitting on Daniel Jones the situation
because I don't know if he was told this, but
like Daniel Jones wanted out right, Daniel Jones asked them
for his release, And in Tom's mind, that's pretty offensive
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because he has been in situations and he seen it
with other players where they just stick it out. But
I remember reading two weeks ago or I guess when
was he cut earlier? Five six days ago? My days
are kind of I guess middle of last week, right
is Daniel Jones asked him. He's like, listen, he got benched. Whatever,
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You're not going to be the backup, and Daniel's like, okay,
I'll do whatever it takes. Can I play Scout team quarterback,
I'll play Scout team safety and things. Brady was saying today, Well,
the Giants told him no because part of the reason
they benched him they don't want him to get hurt. Well,
if you get hurt in the game, or you get
hurt in the practice, the same thing. Well, if you're
playing Scout team safety and you cut, you tear your ACL,
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they still be on the hook twenty three or twenty
four million dollars. So they basically just wanted Daniel Jones
to sit on the sideline with his hands in his
pockets because they want no risk of him getting injured.
So Daniel Jones is like, you just want me to
sit here on the sideline, So I do respect Daniel
Jones going on, yeah, listen, like I'm not I respect
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you guys giving me all this money. Clearly have not
earned it. Everyone's talking shit about me on the internet.
But I don't plan on just going to cold tub
the sauna, lifting some weights and sitting here, you know,
with my hands in my pockets watching practice for the
next month and a half. Fuck that, Like, I do
want to participate. So I think that kind of went
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viral today of Brady crushing him. I think Brady's a
little misinformed how it all went down. According to Diana Russini,
she reported that I think last week that he was like, well,
I don't want to do nothing, and I think more
and more people around the Giants were like, yeah, I
was just they just wanted him to stay on the side,
so Brady's mind, because Brady said, like, I would have
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played safety. Well, he tried and they said no, which
I understand from the Giants. So really the only way
is kind of to cut him is the only way
to really keep him on ice with much time left
to go in the season, but they officially became the
first team to get eliminated from the playoffs. And I
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just don't think we've ever seen anything quite like the
hard knock situation what has transpired with Saquon and then
their team which is now two and ten two and
they were were they two and nine coming into two
and ten. They're not gonna win another They are terrible.
They cannot block a soul. Their defense is atrocious. Their
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playmakers on the secondary are awful, you know, Bibbodeo, Brian Burns,
Dexter Lawrence, Like, yeah, those guys are good, but if
the rest of your defense is just awful, you got
no shot and you're watching your going I don't know, man,
I get John Mora, who wants these guys to work,
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but you end up going three and fourteen in year three.
That's tough to get essentially blasted by the Cowboys on
Thanksgiving when their backup quarterback is playing and they just
kind of embarrass you in what is typically the highest
rated game of the day. That's the thing about today,
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like ebra Flus with that moment. This is not Sunday morning,
Like you're not playing the Lions the morning slate of games,
and there's six other games going on, so it's a
big deal. But the three other things happen, they're also
big and we make fun of you, but there is like, hey,
did you see that one catch that Justin Jefferson had
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and that crazy pass by Mahomes, Like there are other
things going on. Nothing is going on. Everyone just watching
that happen. So then the Cowboy Giants game comes on,
like half the country's just sitting at home eating or
laying on the couch watching, you get clowned, and unlike
basketball or baseball, if it was the equivalent on a
Holi day of teams that were I mean, beside the
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Packers to day, we didn't have a winning record at Lions.
Beside the Packers and the Lions. We had a bunch
of teams that are well under five hundred. Giants are
two and nine, the Cowboys the Giant. The Dolphins are
under five hundred. The Bears are under five hundred. If
it was the equivalent of these other no one would
watch and it wouldn't even matter. But it's the NFL,
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and even if you suck, we're all zoned in and
I'm watching ebra Flus have one of the worst late
moment games you'll ever see, and then try to justify
it after you have day ball standing there. Look at
good by the way as someone who needs to lose
a little weight. And I had a good start to
the week Monday through Wednesday, but then Thanksgiving. It's that
I admire whatever he's doing. Ozempic's kind of a little
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cheat code, but if it's true, just work out some
salads and stuff. Hat tip to you. Just the teams
fucking joke, I mean absolutely, because the Cowboys were like
the butt of everyone's joke up a couple of weeks ago,
and they just kick your ass with Cooper Rush, whichever
of the throw like Cooper Rush would have a throw
like played golf with a buddy yesterday, Bill Pacota, who
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played Major League Baseball for like a decade, played like
Bo Jackson, George Brett and he's from Big Kansasy Chiefs guy,
and he was like, what's up with this cowboy quarterback?
He's like, how could he be in the NFL. I'm like, well,
the thing with backups is like, ideally you can have
a long career if you never really have to play,
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and if you do have to play a couple of
games and it goes well, you can extend your career.
Like this guy played in the NFL twelve years and
he has six career starts. But you get these guys,
if they have like fifteen career starts, their career is
going to be shortened. So if it was like you know,
it was like an economics class and we were doing
a chart of like the supply demand chart. If the
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chart of years played and games started for backups, you
want that game star. If you're a high character, people
like you, you know, good teammate, smart guy knows the offense,
can pick up things fast. You want your game started
to be low and then your years in the NFL
go up. But the moment you start playing more, you
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get wiped out. Because's like, God, this guy sucks. So
Cooper Rush is hanging on there by a thread like
he had that little stretch a couple of years ago
when Dak got injured. Was great because the team was good.
He didn't have to do that much. Tho his win
loss record look good. But then this year he's thrown
back into the fire. Luckily some of the defensive guys
are back, but overall, the Cowboys looked at their schedule.
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That was one thing. Like we said about the Green
Bay Big Game coming up against the Lions, Giants completely
screwed Miami. To me, then ver Broncos are one win
away if they win on Sunday, like your playoff hopes
are over and the Cowboys kind of interesting. Can they
get to ten and seven? I don't know, but I
don't think it's shocking if they were to get ten,
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nine and eight. You know the Eagles that they have
to go to Philadelphia. I think we're all gonna give
them an l on that one. But you still play.
You know, Washington's got a lot of issues. I don't know,
I just the Cowboys. And this is why, and I
mentioned this the other day, why I think Jerry had
said Mike could come back because he didn't want those
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guys to quit. Now, he might not be lying, but
he didn't want those guys to quit, and those guys
didn't quit. Now, one thing really quick before we get
out of here. It's been pretty obvious that the NFL
wants to put a game every single week at six
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point thirty in the morning Pacific Standard time in London
or somewhere overseas. They aspire to do that. Roger Goodell
told the Sports Business Journal this week did we plan
in the next five years of having a sixteen game
overseas sched Next year they plan on having eight games overseas,
three in London, one in Germany, one in Spain, one
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in Brazil, one in Mexico City, and potentially one in Ireland.
Why are they doing this, Well, they have a Thursday
Night package that they sell for like a billion dollars.
They have a Monday night package in which they sell
for a boatload of money. While this is on Sunday
a lot like Sunday Night Football, this can become its
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own package. Now I don't want this. I'm not into this.
I'm cool with just the three sets of games, the
one in the morning, the one in the afternoon and
then Sunday night football. But it was pretty obvious, I
would say this year, or definitely the last couple of years,
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they were getting more aggressive with international play and at
one time we're like, well, those is gonna put a
team in London. Well that's probably not gonna happen, especially
with the Jags doubling down on their practicacility and everything.
In Jacksonville. Where this was probably always headed though, was
to sell as a separate package like, hey, Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, whoever,
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we have sixteen games for you to buy independently six
thirty Pacific standard time, sixteen a year. Here it is
three revenue. These games were being played regardless that exact game,
the New England Patriots against the Indianapolis Colts, the Jacksonville
Jaguars against the New York Jets, you fucking name the
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stupid games would have been a throwing game on your
third TV on a box in the corner that you're
not really even paying attention to unless you're a fan
of one of those two teams. They are now gonna
package and by the time they sell this in five years,
when you factor in inflation, for probably a couple billion
dollars a year. And the other thing Roger mentioned is
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we're going to eighteen games, which we all knew was
coming anyway, because they're gonna have two preseason games. But
these international games. I mean, look at all these packages now, Christmas, Thanksgiving, Thursday, Monday, Sunday,
the International package in the morning. Like there are only
so many ways, Like they're not gonna expand the league.
There's no cities that they're missing out on that then
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go in. So you gotta find ways to develop new
revenue streams. And the international package just happens to be
a billion dollar revenue streams. So we'll keep it positive here.
Fugazi Friday, the only fugazi was me not giving sweet
potato pie more love the moment I bit into it
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and I love sweet potato fries. Not even sure if
it's the exact same thing, but it had an excellent flavor.
It was very impressed. So happy Thanksgiving. Grateful for everyone
that listens and participates in the comments, dms me and
talk talks to your friends about the podcast that you
like and get more people to UH to listen. So thanks,
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have a great weekend and cheers to UH from me
and my family to years and we will see you
guys Sunday. The volume m
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