3 & Out - Trent Williams is back, College Football Today, The Return of John Gruden

John dives into the latest news surrounding the San Francisco 49ers starting with the new contract extension with Trent Williams. He discusses how this negotiation was always going to end this way and why the talks took this long. Later, John talks about the Ricky Pearsall situation and how scary and awful everything is. John also talks about the latest in college football and how the landscape over the years have changed so much and in order to win in college football you now need to have an NFL ready QB. Lastly, John dives into the latest news around the NFL including John Gruden finding his way back into the media world.

Later, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment.

6:57 - The latest with the 49ers

19:30 - Ricky Pearsall

27:18 - College football landscape

35:42 - John Gruden returns

42:18 - Mailbag

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Speaker 2 (01:43):
What is going on? Everybody? How are we doing? Week
one is finally here.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
We have a football game not very long, and then
we got another football game, and then we got a
weekend the football game Saturday and Sunday and then Monday.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's hard not to smile, it really is.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
It's just air smells a little better, sun looks a
little brighter.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Life's good.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
But life's definitely good for Trent Williams, who showed up
and got a lot more money. So I want to
dive into the Niners because they had a lot going
on today. Trent Williams back UK had kind of admitted
some stuff the pearce All situation. What a roller coaster
ride that, you know, Colin and so many people are
down on the forty nine ers. I got to push

(02:30):
back on that a little bit. Something I saw in
the college football world that I think has changed pretty
pretty quickly, obviously with the transferred portal Nil. It's just
it's just a different world than the college football I
think we used to know in terms of parody and
quarterback play, and it was on full display all weekend,

(02:51):
but it was evident in the Florida State game, and
I think Nebraska is a pretty good example of that.
We'll hit on a couple of other NFL stories. Grew
John Gruden. Gruden Grinders has a YouTube channel and then
to some other stuff as well as a Middlecoff mailbag
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Speaker 2 (03:10):
Into those dms.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Colin and I did something yesterday. I did a reaction
on Sunday Night from Monday to all the college football weekend,
and we'll obviously have podcasts for this week's games on
what Reaction Thursday night, Friday night boys working. You know,
I got to pay the bills around here, definitely something
Sunday with Colin. I'll do something else Sunday night after

(03:35):
Lions Rams and Monday night we'll just keep on rolling.
I'm shooting a golf video tomorrow. We'll get on YouTube
next week. So we got a lot going on. We
got a lot of moving parts, fun times, great time
of year.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
My juices are flowing.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
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(04:09):
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I remember and said something years ago. He has a
couple of sayings that have stuck with me, and I
can't even remember what I did three weeks ago. But
this saying is something if you like business, if you
work in the business world, that I think is something
that you should keep in your back pocket because it's
very true for most of us, you know, especially younger people.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You don't have much leverage.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
When I first got hired at Fresno State with Philadelphia
even in radio, like hey here's fifty grand, here's seventy grand,
Like you weren't negotiating, No, I want triple. It's like
they kind of got you in. The older you get,
the more successful you are, in any industry, you know,
you get a little more power. And his comment was simply,

(05:41):
you don't often have leverage. When you get it, use it.
And then if you become a bohemoth like.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
What Apple is.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Now you can charge Google ten billion dollars to use
Google Chrome on the iPhone because that is on the
homepage when you search, it's Google Chrome. Well, how do
you think that gets there? Google pays a lot of money.
Apple takes a lot of shit for how they operate
in their app store. Well, guess what most businesses you

(06:08):
got to be on in the app store?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Why?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Because the amount of money that flows through there from
a business standpoint, and a lot of companies and I'm
sure many people listening to this like, you're kind of
dependent on a couple people, right, I know a lot
of businesses are dependent on their distribution. Channels are dependent
on maybe a certain contact or too. I've had these
situations in the podcast world when I had the right

(06:31):
contact for a certain company and the advertise and that
change and then the advertiser went away. And things can
change really really quickly in basically any industry, right, I
don't care who's on top for how long. You never
know Rome fell, Apple can fall, the Patriots can fall.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
It happens. It's life.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Things go in cycles. And as a player, as an
individual player, you know you can all played for so long.
What Tom Brady did is an all time outlier situation.
So every contract holdout negotiation to me is not the same.
It's like scouting a player. Every player is their own entity.

(07:14):
Some holdouts I'm like, yeah, makes sense. Some are like,
what are you doing? I et Levey on Bell. I
remember when.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
That was happening. So many people in the media were.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Like, he's standing on business, He's doing what he thinks right,
And even him, like six seven years later called it
a massive mistake.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Of course it was.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
He gave up fifteen million dollars. What you're literally fifteen
million dollars richer whatever after taxes eight or nine. Then
you would have been currently like that happened. What a
son Reddick is doing right now? Assuming let's just say
he never plays a snap for the Jets, he will
be fourteen million dollars poorer. Like, that's a fact. It's

(07:56):
not debatable.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's black and white.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
And Brandon Ayuka is like, the offering you this contract, man,
it's pretty damn good, you should probably take it. And
then there's Trent Williams. You go, well, I'm an eleven
time pro bowler, I'm widely considered the best left tackle
in the league and a future Hall of Famer, And
I like Kyle and I like playing for the forty
nine ers. It's been incredible for my career. It's first

(08:19):
time I get to consistently win. But this is a business,
and I've seen enough guys, including some of my great peers.
Tom Brady was told by Bill Belichick essentially, we don't
want you. I'm shorting you as a player. And even
Tom Brady, if you look back, didn't have that many options.
The forty nine Ers went with Jimmy Garoppolo. They had

(08:40):
the conversation sticking with Jimmy, Titans sticking with Ryan Tannehill,
the Raiders sticking with Derek Carr.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
That happened.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Peyton Manning was cut. We have seen countless other players,
Darrell Reevis, some of the best players of the last
decade cut or forced out. Luke Keigley chance to become
one of the great linebackers of all time, and then
he started getting concussions and they wouldn't stop, and he
had to retire really young. No sport do things change

(09:11):
on a dime like they do in the NFL. Trent
Williams literally got sick years ago with cancer and the
doctors looked at him and said, you might not make it.
So he knows just from a human element how short
life could be potentially, and from a football standpoint, he's
played long enough to see his peers at the highest
level get thrown in the trash. So when he said

(09:34):
today this was about security, it's a volatile league. He's
one hundred percent right now. The only time you could
make a play like this as a player when you
got three years left and eighty million dollars, even if
it's not guaranteed, when you have one hundred percent of
the leverage, because that's what he had. The forty nine

(09:56):
ers need him. They don't have a replacement, and no
one does when you have a player like that. But
the forty nine Ers, specifically, their offensive line is kind
of not great, and he's not just their best offensive lineman.
He's the best arguably offensive lineman in the league and
one of the best players in the league. So he
had the opportunity to bend him over a Barrel. Now,

(10:17):
he probably wanted even more than he got, but they
got to a number that he felt comfortable was worth
flying back and getting ready for this game. And I
also think this is a combination of he knew he
was gonna win this negotiation when it started, why because
he had all the leverage, and two at his age, Yeah,
I don't really want to spend the most month of
August in Santa Clair. I'm totally blame him. And there

(10:40):
is a small, small percentage of players in this league
that could pull that off. There's literally not a quarterback
who could pull it off like Patrick Mahomes could. Yeah,
but you can't operate in training camp without your starting quarterback.
You need that guy around pass rushers. We saw Michael
Strahan do it back in the day. As he got older,
It's like, I don't want to be at training camp

(11:00):
and you don't like making exceptions for individuals. But sometimes
like Trent Williams, Now, granted they did find him I
think over four million dollars, but the way they did
the deal, he essentially got it right back. So I
just think Trent Williams is a good example of a
player who's seen so many guys that if he would

(11:21):
have just shown up on the contract, which was still
pretty lucrative, right, And the forty nine ers don't plan
on cutting him, but what if he got injured or
what if it's play dipped, They get rid of him
and they wouldn't even hesitate, because that's the way the
NFL works. It's what we like about the NFL. Unlike baseball,
you signed one of these terrible contracts, you're just stuck

(11:41):
with the guy. In basketball, how many contracts throughout the league.
If you gave the GM of that team, you can
press a button in this contract immediately evaporates, and this
guy is a free agent. Can you imagine how many NBA.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Teams would press that button.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Everyone's like, the NBA is given away all this money,
most of it is to players.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
You're like, you can't, you're doing what.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
But you're stuck because it's all guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Football is the opposite.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
It's why so many teams can get good fast because
you're never stuck very long. And Trent played his card
and he won, and ultimately the forty nine Ers win
because as long as he's still good, you're in great shape.
Can't overpay Trent Williams if he just maintains his Pro
Bowl level of play at left tackle protecting Brock Purty,
so he can throw it to Deebo Samuel, George Kittle,

(12:29):
Christian McCaffrey, and Brandon Nyuk. It's why I've said this
whole time, all this reaction. Colin mentioned this yesterday.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
The forty nine ers are in shambles.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, Brandon Nyuk was never gonna be on the Pittsburgh
Steelers because they had nothing to offer. Trent Williams was
never gonna retire because the forty Nineers were always gonna
pay him. Now what date that happened, we didn't know,
but it was kind of inevitable. And now they got
these two guys. They already have a great defense, they
have a fantastic coach like and they have a very

(12:58):
very productive young quarterback who's played at a Pro Bowl
level last year. So I would imagine they're still gonna
be really good.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
What about Seattle?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
You mean a guy that's never been a head coach
with Gino Smith as his quarterback. Yeah, I'm gonna take
the forty nine Ers on that one.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
So I what about the Bears over.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Matti Euberflus got good hair, good looking beard. I like
Kayleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Future.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
But let's pump the brakes.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
A little bit there.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
So I think everyone's trying to anoint these What about
Raheem Morrison, Kirk Cousins say that again out loud.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Forty nine ers is gonna be okay? Are they gonna
win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I don't know. You know, they got eight guys making
over fifteen million, so from a cap standpoint, better now
than never. But they're gonna be really damn good and
they're gonna be right in the mix as they've been
for the last three or four years, unless they have
a couple catastrophic injuries, like any team that you can't overcome.
I'll give Brandon I you credit on this. He said today,

(14:01):
I made this more difficult than it had to be
cause he did.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I appreciate guys that can acknowledge like I played a
role in this, cause it'd be easy for him to
be like, I'm not talking about That's what coaches always do.
The conversation was between me and him. I'm gonna keep
that private. We're gonna keep that in the family. You know,
any of you that grew up in old school homes know,
like this does not leave the house. Now everyone's on

(14:28):
social media posting their entire life. Back us kids that
were growing up in the eighties and the nineties, it
was like, this does not leave these doors. That's how
coaches and executives talk. I'm gonna keep the contract talk.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Between me and his agent and me and the player private.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
And Brandon Nike's like, yeah, I made this more difficult
than it had to be. But I mentioned this last week, like,
is this gonna be a guy that was bitter and angry?
And he wasn't. He seems very very happy. And ultimately
the forty nine ers ad Trent Williams, they add Brandon,
I you, Christian McAffer he's back at practice. I've heard
non stop, you know, I've heard Bill Simmons say this.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I've heard a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Christian McCaffrey like, what's his situation this year?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
He said, like.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Three weeks ago, if there was a game on Sunday,
he would have played. I've been going to these practices
long enough, and a lot of teams do this. They
don't ask that much out of their star players. Why
because they're star players. Christian McCaffrey works outre hundred and
sixty five days a year, so does Nick Bosa Trent
Williams at training camp. The last couple of years that
I've been going, I wouldn't exactly call his regiment the

(15:33):
Bear Bryant Junction Boys, the Double Days of like Bobby
Bowden's Florida State teams in the early nineties. It's not
what it looked like. There was a lot of just
kind of kicking it on the sideline. Why because he's
ready to roll and he's also old. Now Brandon Ayuk
his rapport with Purdy, they have a good one over
the last couple of years. But you know, he's missed

(15:55):
the last forty plus dights where Saucegarter and all the
Jets guys they've been training, so they're just in the
mix of football. He's been doing the mental stuff because
he's been there. But I think there is a question
mark how he's.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Gonna look on Monday.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Night and the way our society works, including myself, I'm
guilty of this to react to the games that if
he looks bad, people.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Are gonna be critical.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Now over the course of the year, if he plays well,
it'll all subside in quiet down. But I would say
there's a lot of pressure on him on Monday night
to look good, to look really good. And there's pressure
on this game because pressure on the forty nine ers,
there's a ton of pressure on the Jets. But like,
can you imagine the if you just compared the reps

(16:39):
between Garrett Wilson and Aaron Rodgers in Brock Purdy and
Brandon Ayuk, it's not even close. Why Because Brock Perdy
and Brandon Ayuk have practiced and played in games for
the last year and a half. Those two guys have
never played in a real game together beside four plays.

(17:00):
So it's why the Jets and I get everyone because
it was fun and I did it last year. I
picked them to win the division. There are way too
many unknowns for me to just feel comfortable about that squad, right.
I just think the coaching situation, just the age and
the health of the situation. I'm not saying they can't
win on Monday Night, but just the long term view

(17:23):
of the team, it is a week by week operation
given the kind of health status to some of their guys.
The other thing that and I've talked about this for
a long time is when you're a scout coming up
or an assistant coach, there is no handbook.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
It's like this in most jobs.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Were you ready to be the head coach? Were you
ready for this position? Hell, it could be were you
ready to become a coordinator the first time?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Were you ready to.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Become the director of college scouting? Is anyone truly ready? Like,
obviously you have experience doing something specifically, and hopefully you
can grow into the role. And depending on the job
the industry, you might have to produce immediately or you
might get a little bit of a runway. But as
an assistant coach or as an assistant GM or college director,

(18:13):
you don't have to deal with the major problems when
someone that gets drafted in the second round gets a
DUI if you're the college director, like, people aren't talking
about you on podcasts, on the radio, on local TV.
In the athletic they're talking about the GM. When the

(18:33):
second rounder from the Browns got arrested during training camp, even.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
If his biggest supporter.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Was the defensive coordinator or the second in command of
the scouting department, it's on Stefanski and it's on Andrew Berry.
No different when someone gets in an accident or something happens,
it's on that guy. When you're an assistant coach or
an assistant, you don't have to deal with that. So
when Ricky Pearsall gets shot and thank god he's alive,

(19:05):
as his mother said, by the grace of God. Because
when you just say the words he got shot in
the chest in an attempted robbery. If you didn't know
anything else, that he probably died first. Do you think
probably got hit in the heart.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
He's dead. You didn't even know who.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
The person was, whether it's a famous person or not
famous person. But usually when someone gets shot in the chest,
you die. And there was a video that went viral
of the police officer that showed up and she was
kind of almost in tears that when she got there
and she started holding the wound, he kind of started

(19:42):
freaking out just in terms of breathing hard and just
kind of getting worked up looking at all the blood
and looked her in the eye and said, am I
going to die? And she got pretty emotional recounting this
like it was a really powerful thing that happened. One
just the incident is fucking insanity. San Francisco and Union Square,

(20:06):
which used to be one of I have spent so
much time in San Francisco as a kid. I lived
in the city for two years. I lived in the
Bay Area for ten, a couple of years in Emeryville,
which is right across the Bay Bridge. Another I would
say six in Walnut Creek, which is about twenty five
miles away and depending on traffic, anywhere from twenty five

(20:26):
to forty five minutes. How many days it's just a
single guy hanging out partying. It was such a vibrant
place when I moved back from Philly. What it has
become and Union Square specifically used to be, I would
say the most popular, definitely the most famous shopping area
in northern California. It has become robbery central. Now a

(20:47):
lot of these robberies don't involve a gun because California
and San Francisco is specifically like murder rates. I mean,
we're not talking about like some of these areas in Chicago,
but it's no place has more robbery right now. I
read an article that you are you are fifty percent
more likely to have a crime committed robbery some sort

(21:08):
of violent, you know, interaction in San Francisco than Compton, California,
San Francisco. What has happened to it? Honestly makes me sick.
It's an embarrassment. And for Ricky Pearsall to escape losing
his life over fucking getting robbed by a Rolex one,
it's not I mean, it's shocking when he gets shot,

(21:30):
but like that someone tries to rob him is not
shocking at all.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
And that's the sad.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Part because no one gets in trouble. There aren't any
rules anymore in San Francisco. I mean, one of the
reason I'm sitting here a couple of years later is
because it's just northern California in general. It's kind of
became like a lawless place. Like spending all this money,
I'm getting taxed up the wazoo. How does this make sense?
And for me it no longer did, and that there
were other variables. Obviously she played a huge role in it,

(21:56):
but that was something that really bothered me. And I
remember going at the dinner in San Francisco, taking a
scouting buddy who was in for a trip to go
to a Niner game, and we were walking to this
cool restaurant on the water and where you walk on
Market Street, which isn't very far away from where it
happened to Ricky Piersoll. I mean it kind of turns

(22:17):
into zombie land. I mean, you got people taking enormous
poops on the sideline or on the side of the street.
I mean it's crazy. Like you read this, you hear this.
The media loves pushing back it's not true. It is true,
like as someone who spent a lot of time there,
and it gets worse, and that's what's crazy. And for

(22:39):
the Niners, my first reaction if I was Kyle, and
it's hard because like these are pros, Like I don't
know if we should be going to San Francisco. And
definitely no autographs, none of.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
That stuff there. It's just not worth the risk.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
And I would imagine after this that will not take
place in the near future. But you know, John Lynch
is in the hospital on Saturday night to make sure
it's first round pick lives. So the forty nine ers,
what a crazy roller coaster of the last you know,
five six days. Something that really jumped out to me

(23:20):
with college football is that most of my life, the
top programs didn't need to have the best quarterback, like
you could compete to win national championships. You could win
eleven twelve games every single year and have a guy
that was never going to play in the NFL, that

(23:41):
never had a shot to play in the NFL, and
when fans watched them, you'd be like, yeah, this's not
an NFL player, but it didn't matter because you could
load up your roster and that guy just basically was Truly,
this comment gets thrown out a lot in the NFL.
It is a lot harder to be a quote unquote
game manager in the NFL because you do have to
make a lot of places. You play in close games,

(24:04):
even if you're a good team.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
A lot in.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
College football, for a large portion of my life, the
top teams they played in two or three tight games,
they would destroy destroy seventy five percent of their opponents,
I mean, fucking railroad them. Well, with the transfer portal,
most teams aren't gonna have a second string red shirt

(24:28):
sophomore that goes I'm an NFL player sit there for
three or four years at linebacker, at safety, at wide receivers.
So you're not going three deep. Like let's even go
to the Urban Meyer, Nick saban Era. You know, back
in the lay two thousands and early twenty tens of
just NFL players cause those guys leave. But to me,

(24:48):
the thing that has completely changed. And I'm gonna use Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
As an example.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
You could have a really good team and an average
quarterback and still be really compared. Those days are over.
It has a lot of parallels now to the NFL.
If you have bad quarterback play, you're gonna lose. We're
back in the day like Georgia might have a team
or Bama has a team, like is this quarterback even good?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
And then they go eleven and two?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Right, those days are done. If you don't have a
good quarterback, you're going to lose. Florida State if we
took Florida State in Boston College.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
It's cool to see Bill O'Brien.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Anytime you're kind of chubby and bald and you get
put in a humid, hot situation, you are going to sweat,
and he was sweating profusely. I'm a sweater. If you
would put me in that situation, I would have been soaked.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
He's absolutely soaked.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
As they are just working Florida State, and I might
have jinxed them because I had my guy Derek Ray
on the general manager of Florida State this offseason. They
had just gone thirteen and one, had one of the
best seasons in a long time a Florida State, and
now they're zero to two and looking like a disaster.
But their problem isn't the roster. I watched Lewis Ridick
with Scott Van Pelt last night. He was like, when

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you walk out to practice or you walk out to warmups,
their defensive line looks every bit as good physically as
any NFL team.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
They're huge.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
If you said, Bill O'Brien, you can draft twenty five players,
not quarterbacks, but just every other position but quarterback your roster,
Florida States roster. Do you think Boston College has one
guy bill O'Brien picks. Probably not, But dj Ungoulea is
so terrible.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
At quarterback, you have no shot.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Last year Nebraska went five and seven, and their quarterback
play could not have been worse. I look today, five
and seven, they lost three games ten to thirteen, three
games ten to thirteen, they lost an another game seventeen

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to twenty, and they lost the game to Wisconsin seventeen
to twenty four. If you put the quarterback they have
right now and He's still a lot to learn about
Dominic Ryola, but it's pretty clear he's in a different
universe than what they had last year. I don't know
if they win all five of those games, because he's
a freshman.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
He might have.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Are they a nine and three team? They ain't five
and seven? And you watch Boston College with Bill O'Brien,
he has a quarterback that looks like the poor man's
version of Kyler Murray running around making plays if you
flip flop the two quarterbacks, like that's the game and
the sport was never really about that because for so
long the top ten programs were so much better than

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everyone else. Like, truly, does anyone believe Clemson's roster sucks?
I'm not rivals dot com here, but I follow recruiting
closely enough. After signing days, they are typically in the
top five or top ten of recruiting classes, so they
are recruiting the best high school players and for the
history of time that always mattered. Their quarterback play is atrocious.

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DJ was bad this club. Nick guy is not good either,
and you just lose What did Saban realize after that
first iteration of his era, Like I can't win with
the Cocher and Sims. So what do he started doing?
He started getting NFL quarterbacks Jalen Hurts, tuatanka Iloa, Mac Jones,

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Bryce Young.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (28:33):
They kept kicking ass. They weren't as good on defense
as they once were, but they were dominant on offense.
LSU twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
What happened? Joe Burrow showed up.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
That's this, that's modern day football. We aren't going to
see these teams like when I was a kid, or
even into high school and college. The some of the
you know, late nineties Miami defense is Florida State defenses,
Ohio State defenses. You can have a good defense, but

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you're never gonna be as deep because guys aren't gonna stay.
So if you get the quarterback wrong, like in the NFL,
you're fucked. I mean, it's really that simple. And college
football has mirrored the NFL. Now it's such a quarterback
dependent sport because of the rules, because of how difficult it.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Is to play defense.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
I stand by saying this, nothing angers me more in
college football. No one in twenty.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Twenty four is trying to hurt anybody. Nobody.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
They have been coached now for years if you're in
college football, when they start changing around the hitting rules,
you were like in pee wee football, JV football. They've
been coaching you for a long time. Not laid with
your head, No, you know, cracking guys across the middle.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
No one's trying.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
To break people's arms and clasicals anymore.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
That used to happen a lot.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Those days are over. And when a guy goes in
full speed and his helmet hits the other team's helmet,
if you want to throw a flag, the targeting rule whatever.
To me, it's football, But I get it.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
The world's changed.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
To throw the kid out of a game is beyond
egregious to me. No one is trying to injure anybody.
That is the most penal penalty. The majority of people
in college football, whether you're at Alabama or whether you're
at Fresno State or Boise State, are not gonna play
in the NFL. They're never gonna be on the Packers,

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the Cowboys, the Niners, the Eagle They're not. Their career
is going to end after college, end after college. To
take away this guy from a football game, to me
is just it's more or like a non American. I
mean It really bothers me and I try to contain,

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but it happened a couple times this weekend, and I went,
can somebody change this rule? Can we remove that part
of it? Maybe it was necessary early on, it's not necessary.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
It happened in the.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Usc LSU game. He wasn't trying to do that.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
No one is. I get it.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
It happens their kids to throw a player out of
that game. This isn't baseball.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
You don't play every day.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
You get twelve of these a year, and six or
seven of them really matter, and that was one of them.
And when that happens, it.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Really pisses me off.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
A couple other NFL stories, it's great forever. You know,
if a guy left TV and they got fired and coaching,
he would just disappear.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
You wouldn't see him.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
And now like a guy like John Gruden, you know,
he's kind of toxic because of the way it ended there,
and he's suing the NFL and ESPN can't get get
back into bed with them because they're trying to be
in good grace with the NFL and they want the
Super Bowl, and I get it. You just would never
hear from John gut again. The only time you ever
hear from is when you see him in pictures, like,
oh Andy Reid invited him to practice, right, Kaylin Dubor

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had him speak to the team like I don't even
know if that happened, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
We started a YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's just him just talking ball and just kind of
doing his Monday night TV shtick. So one thing cool
about YouTube is it's an incredible platform.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
If you just want to start, you just start loading videos.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
It's pretty easy, and.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
He's doing it now.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I watched a little bit of his Eagles Packers one
felt like he was playing up. I think the one
thing YouTube will expose, like being on Monday Football, you
could kind of play this caricature, which I think is
part of them.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
It felt like John to.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Speer yourself like this isn't all you.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Some of it, but not all of this is you you.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Just authenticity really shines through in the modern day landscape.
It's what I consume definitely as someone that watches a
lot of these videos of just a bunch of different people.
And my advice to you, as someone that is a
consumes hours of YouTube a day, just try to be
a little more like you would be talking with your

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brother or talking with Andy. It's the Monday night sticky thing.
You can add elements of that, but it's not needed.
People are coming from you. You're really famous. You obviously
been around football a long time.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
You know what you're talking about. Just act normal.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Robert Salas said the day because the Niners and the Jets,
because of the long weekend, had to practice a day.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Then they're off tomorrow. On the back Thursday.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Asked about a son Reddick if he was in the
building and if he was practicing.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
And he said zero.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Status change, so his holdout continues. I don't quite understand
the long term play here. I just we kind of
jumped the shark early on. I get it, but like,
what are we doing now? You're gonna hold out for
the season. You're gonna hold out. The Jets aren't gonna
pay you. Are you hoping that eventually they just crack

(34:13):
because they traded a third round pick for you? It
doesn't feel like they're gonna do that. Don't you almost
make a million dollars a game. My recommendation would be
play like that's that's a lot of money. Cam Hayward
signed for a lot of money, a little like the
Trent Williams thing, you know, divided by two, Stalwart for

(34:36):
the organization, team, Captain, man of the year, good player
in a perfect world, he retires a Steeler and they
take care of him. And last, but not least this
you know, this has been reported on for a while.
The day ball going back to OTA's and in training
camp was the play caller he had taken away from
my Kafka. He confirm that today. I guess if you

(35:00):
I wanted to look at it from a point that
if the offense sucks this year, it was easy to
just it was Cafka's fault, Daniel Jones' fault. Well, now
you are playing a role in that. When you're the
CEO guy, it's like, you know, I'm just I'm giving
big picture of philosophical beliefs. Well, now on third and seven,
if you run a route it looks terrible. You're part

(35:22):
of the criticism with Daniel Jones. So maybe the Marras
said we want you.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
To call plays.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I think there's a chance that that happened, because if
I was John Mara, I'd be like, we did hire
you from the Buffalo Bills because of how awesome you were.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
With Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Shouldn't you maybe call the plays, especially when we look
around the league and McVeigh, Lafleur, Kyle, Kevin O'Connell. All
these guys are calling the plays that are offensive guys,
and I do wonder they'll never admit it if there
was some internal pressure there with the powers that be

(36:04):
that said, Brian, we want you with the offensive play
sheet for seventeen weeks. Okay, Middlecoff mailbag time, easiest way
to get in the mailbag at John Middlecoff at John
Middlecoff on Instagram, Fire in those dms and do it

(36:27):
right now, mailbag. William Belichick, Good morning, sir. My question
is this is there a chance that owners are going
to keep Bill out of being a head coach because
of his past relationships and attitude toward everyone. Could they
be set in an example and making sure he doesn't
become the all time wins leader. You know what's funny

(36:51):
is Colin asked me about.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
The Tom Brady situation.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
If you haven't heard, there have been a lot of
stories reported that he's not allowed to go in the
other facilit he's not allowed to be critical of the officials,
I'm pretty sure you like can't be critical and say
certain things about teams and players. So it's a weird
story that doesn't seem necessary. But think about this, Belichick

(37:18):
and Brady. Think how much money he costs teams over
the last twenty years, both those guys beating them in
big playoff games. Think if they only had won three
super Bowls instead of six, Well, those three might have
gone to three other teams. Maybe the Ravens have another,
maybe the Colts have another, maybe the Steelers get one.

(37:41):
You know, over that time when Belichick owned them, like
I would imagine, a lot of owners don't like those guys,
not necessarily personally have a huge problem with them, but like,
this is a competitive business, so to be the Tom
Brady thing is not shocking. The Belichick thing though. If
you were consistently winning like the Packers, the Steelers, like

(38:02):
the Niners for the last fifteen years, but you can't
win a super Bowl, but you're in the playoffs all
the time, you're making a ton best case scenario. You
win super Bowls, the Chiefs, the Patriots, you.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Win a bunch.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
That's obviously what everyone wants to do, But there is
a big difference between being under five hundred all the
time and winning and making the playoffs where you can
charge people just the amount of money you make off
advertising in terms of the placement in your stadium. It's
a big deal, and Belichick costs a lot of those teams,

(38:36):
probably playoff victories, extra home games, the chance to cash
in even more like Robert Kraft did. So I do
wonder if owners have it out for those two guys.
But if you have the opportunity to hire Bill Belichick
and he can help you do that win if you
think he can, I don't.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Think owners will care.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
So I don't think there's like collusion on the fact
that I think the bigger deal is his age, his
coaching staff, the power he wants or doesn't want, like
I think those are the fair questions more than trying
to screw them, because I don't. The only person who
cares the most about you is you. The only person

(39:18):
who cares the most about Let's pick these teams, the Giants,
the Eagles, the whoever their owner like it's they're the
ones cashing in on it if it works. So I
would be shocked if he does an interview for basically
every team that's opened this offseason. We're a long way
to go there. You know, we haven't had anyone fired yet.

(39:39):
Why doesn't the NFL and their experts just admit they
don't know how to evaluate quarterbacks? Then try, or they try,
but they are no better than the bozos like me
in guessing. This stuff so much more to it than
stats and measurements.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Totally agree.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
I think the hard art about evaluating guys is you
can never measure the intangible stuff, and in football, more
than the other sports, it matters the most because you
practice five times more than you play, because the weightlifting

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that comes along with playing the sport is so intense,
because the physicality of the sport is so much different
than baseball or basketball, and you can't measure how bad
that guy wants it. Like TJ. Watt, let's use him
as an example. I know you're talking quarterbacks, but I
think it works.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
For a lot of positions.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
You watch that guy play, you're like, this guy's intensity,
he's like his brother. How the hell did this guy
last to the late twenties, you see guys like Richard
Truman or George Kittle or just the countless guys in
the fifth sixth seventh round. That make it like, why
is Brock Purty a really good quarterback? Yeah, he benefits
from playing with good players. Patrick Mahomes got to play

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with Tyreek Killen Travis Kelsey when he started. Because, as
Sam Darnold said, I've never seen a guy prepare like
that in my career. That's what Sam Darnold said, Who.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Is the backup for Brock Perdy?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
And it had already been in the league for five years,
So I just you can't measure that stuff. He's like, Ay,
it's kind of short, Arm's not great.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
And it is.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's such an intense sport in terms of preparation, in
terms of film study, in terms of cognitively how fast
you could see something. Listen, I love justin Fields coming out.
I would have taken him number two overall.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
If I was the Jets, I would.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Have been wrong because I saw someone Florio wrote the
other day. He's like Mike Zimmer takes a shot at
Rick Spielman because one of the things Zimmer said is
they fought the last couple of years they were together,
and one of the reasons they fought was over drafting quarterbacks.
He wanted him to draft other positions, and Spielman, I
guess wanted to draft Justin Fields and wanted to trade up.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
And one of the.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Things Zimmer said is well he hasn't done anything in
the league. And Florio like took exception with that. It's like, well, yeah,
he's played in the league, just not very well. And
if you did a redraft on that draft, trading up
for Justin Fields would have been an abomination for the
Minnesota Vikings because none of those quarterbacks beside Trevor Lawrence

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Sniff the first round, Trey Lance might go undrafted. Think
about that, he went third, he might go undrafted. He's
a third string quarterback in year four. You don't draft
third string quarterbacks in year four. Mac Jones probably goes

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in like the fourth or fifth. Same with Fields and
Zach Wilson. Probably he'd still go in the seventh, probably because.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Of his physical abilities.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
So it's like, yeah, I mean that was it was
a disaster.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I don't know how I got off on that tangent.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
But oh, because like you watch Fields, I was like, well,
coach him up, figure out how to do it. Some guys,
you can coach him as hard as you want. If
they can't feel comfortable reading a defense and staying calm
instead of taken off in the pocket.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
The offense isn't.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Gonna work over the course of time. People saying how
Bill only has six rings is a blatant twisting of
the truth. Bill is eight six with the Pats and
two with the Giants. I know he was only a coordinator,
but his game plan against the Bills, the number one offense,
was a huge part of.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
The game, and yet no one talks about them.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
What is twenty twenty four and that was nineteen ninety.
But I heard what you're saying. If you can't tell
him a Pats fan who's very cynical about the future
with girod Meyo as a coach. My dad is a
Niners fan and a diehard Rams hater. He thinks the
Rams bought their Super Bowl in twenty one, and Sean
McVay is the biggest cheater in the league with him

(44:15):
not kicking the field goal in the game not to
hit the spread.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
That wasn't even a question, uh medical adrenale time.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
My question is I acquired Saquon in fantasy football one
k Oh, I know you don't play. He fell to
me and I never got him in a mock draft,
so when I saw his name.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
I immediately had to scoop him.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
What do you think this year projects of Saquon? Mainly,
how do you think the red zone will work? You
pay a back good money. I would expect him to
take some of the workload in the red zone. Just
wondering what your opinion will be looking forward to this year.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Uh. I think he's gonna have a massive year.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
They have a really good offensive line.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
They should run the ball if they're up in some
of it.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
If you think they're gonna be a ten or eleven
win team, well they're gonna have the lead in the
second half.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
So what do you do? You run the ball.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
He can catch the ball, so it's easy to run
screenplays for him, wheel routes, screen routes. He's a great
checkdown wide receiver, which.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Jalen has no problem doing.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
The red zone stuff. You know, is a tush push
still a thing? Are they still going to be as
dominant with the.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Tush push without Jason Kelsey? No one knows.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
We'll see if it's not as effective you give it
to him. I would be stunned if Saquan doesn't have
I'd put his over under a touchdowns ten and a half,
I would say that ten to twelve range, and from
a yardist standpoint, I think he should be a twelve

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thirteen hundred yard rusher. Question for the bag, do you
think the Bengals cheap owner will prevent them from winning
a Super Bowl? With Burrow in his prime? How do
they overcome the scrooge and Mike Brown. Well, we'll have
to see how this Chase situation plays out, because that

(46:17):
was it was like he was holding in and then
it felt like things were progressing, like he was gonna practice.
Then Zach Taylor said he was gonna play week one,
and then it felt like he disappeared. So is news
gonna break by the time you're listening to this. They've
extended Jamar Chase. He spent a lot of money over
the years on players, especially the last three or four

(46:39):
of the Joe Burrow era. So he gave Joe Burrow
two hundred twelve million dollars. It's hard to call him
cheap currently. I'm gonna withhold judgment. Obviously in the past
there have been major question marks Carson Palmer days. No
issue there calling him that, But I would say the

(47:02):
last couple of years, like they've been pretty invested. I'm
a Cowboys fan. Any hope this year?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah? I got you guys making the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
And hypothetical question, if Patrick Mahomes requested a trade, who
do you think would have the best offer and what
would a deal look like. Would it be like five
first round picks and like your best defensive player or
maybe like a good young offensive lineman or could we
see teams offer quarterbacks like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Well,

(47:33):
the Ravens would offer Lamar Jackson and Bret Veach would
hang up the phone. You know, I'm a sucker for
these questions, even though it's they're so stupid because I
guess players that you didn't think were going to request
the trade to request the trade, so you never know.
But I would say Patrick Mahomes, the one thing the
Chiefs have going for him, even if Andy were to

(47:54):
retire in the next couple of years, is that whole
time they've been with Bret Veach, and if Andy were
to retire, Veach wouldn't retire, so Veach's relationship with Patrick,
knowing that he was the reason that he pounded the
table for John Dorsey to draft him.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
You know, the way they talk about him.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
I think they're pretty lucky that way, that their relationship
is so strong. But if he did request to trade,
I mean, I think every team in the league's picking
up the phone. I don't think you can trade more
than three first round picks. Could be wrong on that,
but I'm pretty sure there's a league rule that you
can only trade three years out. Again, don't fact check

(48:35):
me on that. I'd probably need like Jake Rosenberg on
the horn to give me the thumbs up or thumbs
down on that one. But I've heard that before because
I don't think we've ever seen a deal bigger than
three years out. But I think that's part of the
reason why.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
But yeah, take it all.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Is there, Patrick Mahomes. This is how you know how
good of a player he is. He's so good that
there is no offer that you could give to the
Chiefs that they wouldn't hang up like they're not even
having a meeting, not even having a meeting where I
could call. There is not another quarterback in the league

(49:14):
that I couldn't call and not get a meeting from
the other GM And the coach with the Bears called
the Bills. We'll give you Caleb Williams and three first
round picks for Josh Allen. Now I wouldn't do that
because in the best case scenario of Caleb Williams, he
becomes Josh Allen. But like you might have a meeting, like, hey,
we get this rookie contract, we get the three first

(49:36):
round picks, every other quarterback, you get a meeting. It
doesn't mean that you would do it. There might not
be enough to trade for Josh Allen or Joe Burrow.
Joe Burrow is a little different because he's injured, but
you know what I mean. There is zero offer that
you could get Brett Veach and Andy Reid to even
take a meeting, to even get Veachs to be like, hey, Andy,

(49:57):
I think we need to talk about this. Instead, it's like, Coach,
do you believe what these fucking idiots called me about.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Let's go grab a hot dog.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Packers fan from Australia question for the bag. With the
season about to start, I was surprised Green Bay are underdogs.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Against the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
The Eagles have had a lot of woes this offseason,
while the Packers have addressed the secondary with McKinney and
the new DC as well. I'm pro Halflee, like I
think it's gonna work. But just because you hire a
defensive coordinator who, in a perfect world is better than
your last defensive coordinator does not mean just because you

(50:40):
made a change to DC, it's the it's gonna work.
And this guy's never been a defensive coordinator in the NFL,
So to just plug Halflee in as a positive addition
to me, he's an unknown like the Eagles, and you
hire defensive coordinators. One hired Vic Fangio, who I think
it's safe to say has been one of the better
defense coordinators of his generation, and the other hired a

(51:03):
guy who's never been a defensive coordinator. Now, the Packers
could be better than the Eagles on defense. Time will tell,
but today we can't say, you know, before they kick
off on Friday. The Packers edition of halfleet is a positive. Now,
you can say it's a positive simply from the fact
that they got rid of the old defensive coordinator Joe Barry, Right,

(51:24):
that's who's the last defensive coordinator. But they've gone through
a lot of defensive coordinators over my late twenties and
thirties and you guys have been consistently bad on defense.
So to me, someone's got to be favored in the game.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Like the Chiefs. One's easy.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Chiefs at home, Ravens, we just kicked your ass in
the playoffs. That's an easy three, four or five point spread. Right,
You're not going to be a touchdown over a team
with Lamar Jackson, but you're not gonna be a field goal.
So I think the last time I looked a couple
of days ago is four and a half. I haven't
even looked at the Eagles line yet. But someone's got
to be favorite in the game. But and also it's

(52:03):
based on who's Betton who I would make it a
pick him because who knows. Honestly, I think either team
could win thirteen games best case, and I think both
teams worst case could win like nine. So the other thing,
the game's in Brazil. I don't know how far the
flight it is for Green Bay, but it's I think
it's like an eight hour flight from Philly, So I

(52:25):
think the Packers ceiling is really high. But I do
think there are question marks with the defense, a lot
of unknowns. In theory, it should be better, but you
got to do it with the guy who's never been
a coordinator in the NFL, and listen, I don't judge you.
There's a huge difference between being a head coach and
a coordinator. But like Bill o'bryan's a real head coach.

(52:48):
He goes to Boston College, first game they look like
a real team was Jeff Haffley and he goes ahead coach.
Now again, his job with the Packers is not to.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Be the head coach. It's called the defense. Know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
When you moved to Arizona, did you sell your condo
or keep it as a rental? I'm in real estate investing,
so just curious. Thought that was the irs right there.
Second question, last year was such a weird year for
the Eagles because they were winning games, but something looked off.
Do you think they'll bounce back to twenty twenty two

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from where they dominated and made it to the Super Bowl.
When I left, I left my shit there originally, and
I was gonna airb and be it, and then I
quickly found out it was a little more complicated than
I thought in terms of the ability to get like
longer term tenants, Like I didn't want a guy year round.

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But it was a fully furnished place, and the plan
was to have like traveling nurses or whoever, someone that
works for Chevron that's coming in for two months, rented
out and charge a lot, and my payment was pretty low,
and it was just gonna be a lot more difficult
than I had thought about in my mind. And then

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I bought this place and sold it immediately, And yeah,
so I sold it to do the remodel here and
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Want to keep it, and I wasn't gonna airbnb.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
It, So yeah, might have set the record into place
to the last couple of condos that sold didn't sellicize
me got out on top.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
It's just a headache, you know. It was hard.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
If it was going to be a cash cow, I
would have had no problem keeping it. Maybe my idea.
I'm sure I could have rented it out empty, but.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
I just I just offloaded it.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I think the Eagles to get back to twenty twenty two,
Jalen's got to be really good. So if Kellen does
a good job with Jalen and he's an MVP candidate,
if I tell you right now, Jalen hurts his an
MVP candidate, you'd be like, the Eagles are really good
even if the defense is up and down. Shit, the
Packers been winning for fifteen years with average defenses like this,

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you don't need to have the eighty five bears on defense.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
They've invested a lot on the defensive side of the ball,
drafting corners, investing in corners. The defensive line they pay
a lot of money to. So the defensive line just
based on talent alone should be solid. But it's on
the offense. They have high paid left tackle, they have
a high paid right tackle, they got a high paid guard,
they have a high paid obviously quarterback, running back, tight end,

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multiple receivers, and then they just traded for a former
first round receiver who's actually, you know, definitely a pretty
good third receiver.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
So to me, it comes to the offense.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
That's the thing with the Eagles Packers camp, no one
really has any question marks, like we just assume the
Packers are gonna be good on offense. With the Eagles
is like, what's this going to look like?

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Kellen needs to run the ball?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
One thing they got away from last year they get
so pass happy. No part of that is the analytics
and the building. They love passing, runs the ball.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Just take a deep breath. One thing Kyle Shanahan has
taught me. You can drive me nuts. Sometimes run the ball.
It will wear the other team out.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Stick with it when you have the talent, and they
got the talent. Fucking lean on them that If I
was an Eagles fan, That's what I be. I want
to lean on these dudes. I don't try to beat
everybody forty to twenty. I have a mailbag question for you.
I don't think that Jaden will have much success this year.

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The Commedis have one of the worst ranked offensive lines
in football according to Pro Football Focus. Jayden had a
very bad pressure to sack ratio in college. The Commanders
are in the division with three good defensive lines, and
they also play the AFC North. I think all these
factors will lead to a very difficult season. A lot
of people are high in Washington this year, but I

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don't see how a rookie that gets sacked a lot
can succeed in these circumstances. Do you think they're a
real concerns to have about the team. I've been going
back and forth. Should I do like my top ten teams,
I might end up doing like a power five and
bottom five. But I was thinking about my bottom five,

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my cellar dwellers, my just teams are gonna compete for
the number one overall pick. They're one of them. I
don't think they're gonna be any good. I really don't,
you know. It really crystallized watching Jayden Daniels or LSU
the other night he played. Those two tackles.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Would start for the Commanders.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
His two tackles in college that are still there would
start Moleague Neighbors win seventh.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Overall or sixth overall.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Brian, the number two wide receiver on the team, win
in the top twenty five because his tight end at
LSU looks like a stud. That team that was an
all star team on offense, And I'm not trying. He
was really good, but just running around and freelance and
making plays. Now he's accurate down the field. But I'm

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with you. You know, if your guards and centers can't
block and you get pressure up the middle, you're scrambling
around for your life. The talent he's playing with now
relative to the league is so much worse than the
talent he played with last year.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Relative to who he was playing.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
So he's his one year succeeding and it was awesome.
Was with the best of the best. Now if he
can prove he can do in the NFL, more power
to him. I'm not acting like he's gonna be a scrub,
but I'm out on Washing. I think Washington is not
gonna be good this year because you gotta win from
within the pocket, and when you're getting hit all the time,

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it's hard their offensive line a lot of often remember
Joe Burrows rookie year, he was getting killed, his leg
got stamped. You can't function and as a young player
who's kind of learning on the ropes, new defensive coordinators,
new players, just quicker game and you're just under dress
like every other snap, even if you can run like Jayden,

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it just wear your ass down mail back outside of quarterback.
When looking at the Steelers roster, what holes do you see?
I saw Tomlin say today that coming into camp he
had a lot of questions with the wide receivers. He
feels better about that now I'm on the other side,
like I gotta see it. Obviously, George Pickens is a

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big time talent, but do they have enough beside him
to kind of help Russell Wilson out the offensive line.
While they drafted three guys that everyone in the scouting
community liked, one of them got hurt. I think the
tackle got hurt in training camp, I.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Would have met.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I don't know if he's gonna play in Week one
or he's back, maybe he's already been back. But the
offensive line looked very, very shaky the mismatch group they had,
which I think is a little bit of question mark
why they invested so heavily in the drafts. They're going
to be depending on very very young players. The drafted
a guy last year in the first round. So is

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there offensive line good enough? Because Russell does not sit
in the pocket. He doesn't sit in the pocket if
Trent Williams, Larry Allen, and Anthony Munios are blocking for him.
Dude just likes to move around. So you get offensive
line and that aren't great all of a sudden. It's
just it's a hodgepodge of just craziness happened back there.
I don't know why I used hodgepodge right there, but

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I felt like I wanted to use that sometime. So
I think their defensive line is really good. dB should
be solid. The defense should be solid, should be really good.
But offensively, the line, the quarterback, and the receiving options
outside of Pickens I think are a major, major question

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mark till proven otherwise.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Like you got a question mark, sometimes it gets answered, right.
You got question marks when you start doing business with
someone or start dating with someone. Then over time you're like,
I feel pretty comfortable to duding this. She's cooler than
I thought, doesn't bother.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Me as much, or it's ain't gonna work.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
That's like football. It's like, yeah, I think we're pretty
good at the two guard spots, and then three weeks later,
defensive tackles have nine combined sacks over that period of time, You're.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Like, yeah, we're screwed. Question for the bag. It's from Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
I just saw a poll below and was shocked to
see the NFL most overrated player was Josh Allen. Less
surprised about perty. I agree with your stance on Allen
being a generational talent, but just curious to hear your
thoughts on an NFL player on other players believing he's overrated.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
I don't see how you could play Josh Allen and
unless you're asking, like I guess maybe the Chiefs. But
he's beating most teams he's playing, and he's doing it
throwing these ropes, running around and his team. It's not
like some balanced squad, especially last year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Maybe they're just players that are jealous, maybe because he
throws some interceptions. I don't know, you're right, like i'd
get the party thing. Perty's just a polarizing guy. But
I don't see how you could play Josh Allen and
think he's overrated, because the coaches.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Don't believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
If you read Sando's Quarterback, you know, piece, if you
got Andy Reid or Mike McDonald or Mike McDaniel or
John Harbaugh or whoever in the AFC on the horn
Robert Sala, ask them what they thought of Josh Allen.
I'll promise you this, they'd be singing his praises. Why
don't team structure contracts for key position star players differently

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than most of their other contracts. I'll use Purty as
an example, because he might end up being the highest
paid quarterback next offseason. Wouldn't it be in in the Niners'
best interest to set the terms of the contract based
on a percentage value of the cap versus an arbitrary
dollar amount that they will have to restructure in a
couple of years. Let's say they agree on a five

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year deal at twenty percent of the cap each year.
Then every year the salary cap goes up, Purdy's cap
goes up proportionally. It seems like this would be a
better way to start your contracts for star players at
important positions, to keep them happy while providing predictability and
stability for front offices. Why would you do that when

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you don't have to because you're eventually going to extend
the guy again if you really like him. But I
get I want a guy on a fixed cost. I
don't want to get a guy on a variable cost, right,
Like why do we when we do the mortgage, it's
great to be on a fixed mortgage for thirty years.

(01:03:55):
You know exactly what you're paying, and the more money
you make, the easier it is to make that payment.
So you can project out thirty years or with a contract,
if I signed the guy five years, by the second
or third year, that number technically is coming.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Down relative to the salary cap.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
So why would I want it. If I was the player,
I would one hundred percent want what you just said,
because I would always be making more money. I would
get built in raises on a yearly basis.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
It'd be like a rolling race.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
I'd be guaranteed a race where when I pay these
quarterback contracts, the hardest hit I get is early on
in actual cast. I give you, like Jordan Love, He's
getting seventy five million dollars in the first whatever three
months of the season, and then it slows down a
lot in terms of the cash I have to pay

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him if I'm the Green Bay Packers. But if every
year he's getting nineteen percent of the salary cap, that's
a lot of money. So I think part of it is,
like most human beings, I'll deal with this later. And
I think that's the mindset that these teams take.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
I'll deal if he's gonna have a problem in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Four years, I'll deal with it later. The forty nine
ers knew when they pay Trent Williams four years ago
or whatever, it was gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Be a problem. We'll deal with it when.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. So
your idea is something that I'm sure agents and players
talk about all the time. It is something teams want
to avoid, like the plague, because it saves them money.
So I don't think we're that's happening anytime soon. I

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guess it is the long way around of saying that
the volume