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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, what's down, baby? We are back with another one, man. Yes, sir.
This is NFL opening day. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Man, I ain't doing nothing today but watch football. That's it.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I went to church and football. That's what Sundays are
for now. It was bittersweet for me, man. Man, I
miss being out there. Today was a fumbling catastrophe.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
A lot of turnovers, yeah. Ball security is not that
no more. Do you expect anything less? It's week one. Nah, nah, nah, nah.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
First of all, in training camp, Deuce, you know how
this go. Protect the ball. You have to protect the ball.
A lot of these losses, right, was on margins of turnovers, fumbling,
throwing interceptions, right?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
But before we get in that, what you miss about
opening day?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I think the thing I miss the most is just
being able to put it all together and the shit count.
Preseason is cool, it's one thing, yeah, football around the corner,
training camp. But finally, actually, to go out there and
play and it matters against another opponent You know, I
ain't really, ain't really nothing like it, bro. I used to,
I used to get to the stadium early on days

(01:30):
like this, just for the first one. Get there early. Yeah.
I like to get there early, like take it all in,
set in the stadium by myself, listen to a little music,
you know, vibe. Because it's a long year. You know that, right?
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
And then on opening night too, like normally, like I
have my whole family down. So like, everybody be able
to at least see me play at that, that point
in time throughout the year. And that's, that's fun. That's exciting. So,
you know, um, I love opening day. What about you?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think to me, it depends on the year you in. Right.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I know with the most opening days, right. When you're
under that rookie contract, you solidify, right. But now when
it gets to, you know, um, a new contract, it's
like you're more dialed in your focus. Uh, You think
about the plays you can make to change the whole
trajectory of the game. Your family is there for number one,

(02:25):
so that's one of the most important things.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
But also, you're going out that tunnel. Introductions.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
You know, we did offense, then defense, or sometimes defense first,
then offense. But just remember coming out that tunnel, you know,
they went through the wide receivers. Now it's the running
back's time. It's my turn, then the quarterback. But it's
nothing like the fans cheering for you. Coming out that tunnel,
you just feel the chills in your body, man. So
shout out to everybody. Shout out to everybody on this

(02:54):
opening day, man.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
You know how important you was based on the lineups too.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
If you was like one of the first names of
the skill players that was called.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
They say, ah.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
But if you was right before the quarterback, or in
some cases, right after the quarterback, then.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
You was that dude. You was that dude. Everybody came
to see you, 100%. I always wonder how they figured
that part of it out, though.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Definitely, man. They go about the best players, right? They
know who the best players are. They know who gets
the crowd moving. They know who make the plays, man.
So don't be fooled when y'all listen to them lineups.
the last four to three people are the guys on
the offense pay attention pay attention.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Like the baseball it's like baseball like the top the
top four hitters yeah and the last it's.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Literally bro the top four hitters on the football field
come out the last they come out last bro i
remember i remember um being in miami and we had
like the fire and the smoke and and all of
that stuff. And a lot of my favorite moments and
photos that I have is like running through that tunnel.
And all you can see is like Ryan Tannehill is

(04:10):
like the last one. So, you know, that tells you
where your boy was at and considered.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
You know, when you consider, you know, playmakers and- You're
the proud favorite. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Also, also, is life better when football is back? I mean,
I've been smiling all day listening. I let my children
do whatever they want around the house. I ain't much worried, bro.
I'm watching football 24-7. It felt great. And then also,
like I said, it was kind of bittersweet because, of course,
I know you still got some left in the tank.
I feel like I got some stuff left in the tank.

(04:44):
And hold on to the damn ball, man.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, it was a lot of fumble, man.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
These games was determined on turnovers, but one. Let's talk about,
but one game.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
It was a true... Ass whooping. Jarvis Landry, your Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, listen, listen. You know, I watched that whole game.
I watched that whole game. And then I listened to
people talk about that game from, you know, all of
the local media. I watched Todd Munkin's press conference. I
saw a little bit of Deshaun's press conference. And I
would say this. I think Todd Munkin hit it right

(05:25):
on the head. It wasn't all Deshaun. It was a
little bit of everything.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I think the pass protection wasn't there throughout the whole
entire time. I thought that the defense, if you look
at the defense, they gave up down to 40 points
and dudes was like wide open catching touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Dudes was wide open getting first downs.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
So you can say as much as you want about
how Deshaun Watson played, but I think you can't evaluate
Deshaun Watson fully.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Considering this year, this year, I'm not talking about last year.
I'm not talking about what he did in the past.
I'm talking about this year. I can't really get a
good read on him because, you know, he make good throws.
I see I see him make good throws. I see
him play on time. But then I also see that
every time he's throwing the ball, he's getting hit. Somebody's
hitting his arm. And then, you know, the last their

(06:13):
last drive, you saw him throw a touchdown to Boston,
which was an amazing throw. One of the best throws
of the day. I watched a lot of football today,
and that was one of the best throws that I've
seen all day. But he had a clean pocket. He
had time to throw. And I think Cleveland fans are upset,
you know, and they want to be upset. You know,

(06:34):
they don't think that Shadur will come in and it'll
be any worse.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
But I'm here to tell you, and I love Cleveland fans.
I love Cleveland Browns organization.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
If you cannot protect the quarterback, it doesn't matter who's
back there throwing the football, guys. Like, you can't run the–
I think Quishon Junction ran the ball 10 times today. Like,
you know, that's the play calling.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
That's not just– But also understand this.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
When you're down that much, right, the running game is
over with.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
It's over with.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yes and no. Yeah. Yes and no. You can't just
be so one-dimensional that now I can blitz you all day.
Now I can play three deep. I can play cover
two all day because you're going to throw the ball
every play. That's a play caller's job to figure out
a way to keep it balanced. Run the ball on

(07:26):
first down. Get in the second and manageable. I think
that's something that Cleveland didn't do. And another thing that
I see Cleveland Browns didn't do today, like they seemed
like they were extremely unfocused. They had 11 damn penalties. Yeah. Like,
you can't turn the ball over, have penalties, pre-snap or post-snap,
and expect to win a game against a Jaguar team

(07:47):
that we talked to this offseason.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
And we've seen. It's talented.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'm going to let y'all know, bro. It's no secret
that defense is flying. Like, it's no secret, right? And also,
to put it in context, the score was Jaguars 34,
the Browns 10, right?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Jacksonville scored on first of its each first possessions and
it was leading 24-0. Bro, after that?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Bro, you go up 24-0 and a half, bro. It
gets real.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Because now we're trying to climb up that hole and win, right?
Trevor Lawrence, 18 for 23 for 245 yards.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Four touchdowns, no picks. Asking rate, 150.6. He got pulled
with eight minutes and 12 seconds left.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Right. Deshaun, Deshaun Watson ain't playing defense, is he? Like,
like that's, but that's what I'm, that's what I'm saying.
As a Cleveland fan, like, I think there's a, there's
a lot more, there's a lot more to be upset
about than just how Deshaun Watson played. And then, and
then also on the interception, everybody's talking about, oh, he

(08:56):
was staring down his receivers. Well, I need to find
out who the running back coach is because last I checked,
on a five- or seven-step drop, running backs are not
cutting linebackers in the hole to pick up blitzes. Like,
why is Quinshawn Junkins cutting a linebacker on a five-

(09:17):
and a hitch or a seven-step drop? Like, he should
be taking– he took the easy way out. Like, you only–
for me, for me, for how I would coach football,
how I know football– running backs only cut when the
ball is coming out quick. They don't just cut because,
because somebody is putting pressure down the a gap or

(09:39):
whatever it is. Nine times out of 10, you see
quarterbacks or you see running backs. They, they are just
pre snap and they'll go stand a little bit closer
to lower so that the impact is not so, you know, brute. Right. Right.
But there's no way that I'm having a, he got
a seven-step drop. Quinshawn Junctions, he cut the leg of

(10:01):
the blitzer, but the blitzer didn't fall. And the blitzer
impacted the throw. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Go ahead. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I'm going to raise my hand, right?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
By me being a running back unknowledgeable, that's not even
a word. I just made that shit up.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
So, There are rules, right, for people at home, all right,
about cutting in the A gap. But if you're a
good pass blocker and you could do both. See, me,
I did both. I stood in that paint, blocked, and
I cut. But when I cut, I throw my whole
body into it. You know most guys throw a chicken wing?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
No, no, no, no. I'm going, I'm clotheslining. Yeah, everything.
I'm grabbing you.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I'm going to make sure you break your neck down there.
And I understand where you're coming from, right? When you
say cutting while the guy's in shotgun. But understand this,
that's one of the hardest jobs to do.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
100%. Every job on the football field is hard, though.
Not just... I'm going to be honest, bro.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Like.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Trying to get open against DBs is hard. Trying to
block freaking Miles.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Garrett or any of these D linemen from Jacksonville, that's
a hard job.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
It is, but also imagine a guy is coming at
you 10 yards, full speed.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
You don't know what he about to do.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's hard, though.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
It's hard, but again, bro, you get paid a lot
of money to do hard things. Like, we can't give
this man a way out, and then with Deshaun Watson,
we going to judge him to death.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
He's not the starting running back, right?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
He is a starting running back. He came back off
an injury this year. But at the same time, I'm
looking at that. And fans, they see the result. And
the result was bad. I'll be honest with you. But
at the same time, he didn't have time to make
a read, to make a throw that didn't result into
an interception because the guy that was supposed to pick

(12:10):
up the block damn near whiffed. You could say he whiffed.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Because he hit his right leg. The guy just lifted
his leg up, spint around a little bit, and it
affected the throw.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
We're going to stay on this running back topic, right?
You've seen what the young guy, Sonny, did, one of
the highest paid running backs in league, Saquon, ran his
ass flat over.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, I read that.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You read that? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'd rather that. I'd rather see you tried and got
your ass bulldozed than you cut and miss.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
But I think he was still trying, though. I was
being frank.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Maybe, you know, we're looking at it from two different
points of view. But, hey, what he's saying is, running backs,
don't be out there cutting and bullshitting and getting your
quarterback hurt.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
How were you taught? You played with Brady. Yeah. You
played with Brady. Did you cut just based off your instincts,
or did you cut based off of the play, if
it was a quick game?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Listen, I cut based off the play. You can watch
my film, bro. I've cut guys five yards before they
even touch the quarterback or touch the line, right, to
give my quarterback more time to step in and make
that throw. When you're in the A-gap, right, when you're
in the A-gap and you cut in the A-gap, bro,
that's how you tell the quarterback ACL, number one.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Like, you never want to be the.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Guy that got the quarterback hurt, especially if he's worth
a pretty penny, right? I've always been the guy to
cut beyond the line, right? I might run up, play
some games, then I'm going to cut you.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
So when it comes to that, you have to play
games with them, right? Play games with linebacker, running backs.
You might.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Jump at them to use the backup.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Now, that jumping, if you did at them, it's going
to give you a couple seconds to– To fight, hopefully
the ball gets off. But understand this, though. I played
with a quarterback that wasn't a scrambling quarterback, too. So
maybe Deshaun was back there trying to figure some things out, right?
He threw his first pick. I know his head was
probably all over the place for number one. So, well,

(14:23):
we can't say this, y'all. Today, it was a lot
of poor decisions. You always say the running back cutting
the eight gap.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Which we are taught as running backs don't do that.
But if you have to, do it. But make sure
you do it the right way because I'm the guy,
I throw my whole body to their legs.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'm not just about to throw no chicken wings, y'all.
It's being real.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Listen, as I'm processing this and I continue to think
about this, You should never cut on a five or
seven step drop, especially if you know the play is
not a timing play. That play that Cleveland ran wasn't
a timing play. It wasn't a play where he hit
his seven step, the ball is out. He had two

(15:11):
men out. He had two men out. And when you
cut people, and you know this too, Leonard, when you
cut them, they get back up.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh, for sure.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Just because you cut them, that don't mean that the
play is over.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
For sure, they get back up.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
They get back up quick, and it still could affect
the play. First of all, Quenshawn Junkins, make sure you
make the cut. You know what I mean? And then
Watson from there, he got to make a better decision
with the football. Look, I don't want to beat a
dead horse here, you know, when a quarterback leave more
rushing yards than the damn running back, that tells you

(15:47):
there's a lot more things going on than just one person.
And Cleveland Browns got a lot of things to figure out,
and I hope they figure it out, man, because, you know,
the fans and that team and that city, they want
a winning football team. Matter of fact, every city and
team wants a winning football team. But nobody, like this

(16:08):
orange and brown that I got on, man.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Take it off.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah. They're trying to get somebody else to take it off.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Hey, well, listen, Jacksonville, total offense, 360 total yards, 126
rushing yards on 32 carries, right?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's a good thing. They have a balanced offense.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
They're throwing. They got a balanced offense. They're throwing and
they're running the ball. They had 23 first downs, 33
minutes and 51 seconds of possession.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Jesus, that's damning the whole game.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Who's the defensive coordinator?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's damning the whole game.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Who's the defensive coordinator?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
And the Jacks defense, five sacks, eight QB hits, an interception,
two forced fumbles, and a fumble recovery. And like you said,
we're not going to beat on a dead horse, but fellas,
we got to do better. Now, I am interested in this.
When does Shador step in? It seems like it might
be closer than what we thought, Jarvis.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Maybe.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
It might be closer than what we thought.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I think Do you think he makes a difference, though? Like,
based on what you saw today, do you think Shador
Sanders steps in at any point and make a difference?

Speaker 1 (17:21):
We'll have to see. Maybe they respond to Shador differently
than Deshaun. Just being real. And you can tell, bro.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Like, usually when a quarterback shows his first interception, you know,
it's a mistake.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Being real.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
But, bro.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Deshaun is like he's out to prove them wrong so bad.
Like he was punching his hand like, fuck. It's like
he's scared to make mistakes. And you know, as a player,
it's hard to have a perfect game, Jarvis. I think
he's out there in his head, knowing the fans, doesn't
want him there, doesn't want him to play, doesn't want
him to be a QB1.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
A lot of that shit is going on in his head,
to be real.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
When you were out there, you didn't have these same thoughts?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I mean, I've never went through what he went through.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
But I'm saying, you didn't have thoughts of like, damn,
I missed that block, or damn, I fumbled the ball,
or damn, I didn't catch the pass, or damn, I
got tackled for a loss. I feel like, yeah, exactly
what you're saying, what he went through, but I feel
like the position that he is in with the team
and with the fans right now, he don't want to

(18:28):
fuck up at all. That's the only way for him
to walk out there and hold his head up. And
it's a shame. that it has to be that way, right? Like,
it's not like he going out there just throwing picks
to throw picks. It's not like he going out there
and not trying to be the same Deshaun Watson that

(18:49):
we all hoped he would return to from his Houston days.
It's not like he's not going to, but listen, this
team is not a good team. Right now, this team isn't,
I'm just going to call a spade a spade. Right now,
this team is not where You know, any of the
Browns teams that I've played on or would consider a

(19:11):
decent Brown team is. Like, and no offense when I
say this, like, we looking at a Hugh Jackson type
of maybe season right now, like in Cleveland. And it's, again,
I don't think anybody wanted to take the Cleveland job.
And I might be wrong. And that's why Todd Markin

(19:32):
got it, right? I do not think that Todd Munkin
is a bad coach. I don't think Todd Munkin is
a bad coach. But for a first-time head coach at
this position, at this state of what this organization is in,
I think it was a reach. see that on sundays
this is the results you're gonna get from a first

(19:53):
time head coach 11 penalties three turnovers uh sacks the
defense giving up 40 points like this is what you're
gonna see it's the season opener So hopefully they can
go back and correct some things and figure out a
different strategy. Yeah, maybe it's running Quinshawn Junkins and all
of the running backs that they got. Maybe they run

(20:15):
the ball 30, 40 times a game. Maybe that's what
it is. And try to play as good of a
defense as they possibly can. Maybe that's the strategy, right?
Maybe that gets them closer to wins than putting the
ball in the air. But somebody needs to go up
there and figure it out and be honest. It's not
only Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Also, I'm going to say this, right?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I know the Cleveland Browns traded Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
They got Jared Burse.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Who did nothing today.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Like, I'm not going to say he did nothing. And
when I'm talking, please, fam, I don't mean this in disrespect, right? But, like,
at the same time, you saw a trade where Myles
Garrett has zero tackles, zero sacks, and that was more
important than the 49ers winning the game in the news.
And then Jared Verse, they got blowed out today. True.

(21:13):
He didn't do nothing either. We talking about the Cleveland
bamboozled the Rams into a trade knowing Myles Garrett was
injured and all this stuff, but at the same time,
The Jared verse didn't do anything that showed me that, damn,
like Cleveland won the trade either. They lost 38, 30,

(21:38):
whatever the score was something, a blowout. It was a blowout.

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Speaker 1 (23:15):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Bengals versus Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh, my God. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Joe Burrow looked good, bro.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
What?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
And let's talk about this.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
When you have two wide receivers that's on your team
that could be wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
One, oh my, T. Higgins, oh my God.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah. T.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Higgins to seal the game? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Dive and catch. Yeah. And Jamar Chase only leads with
two for 12 yards.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I believe. Yeah, but you know, they're going to double
team him, which is, yeah, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Which is the beauty of having two receivers, two number
one receivers that can make plays at that time, right? Like,
You know, I think Joe Burrow looked the best I've
seen him look. I'm just going to be honest. I
thought he was on point with all his throws, timing,
fitting them in the tight windows. I think the tight
end stepped up for them, Jaceki. He caught a lot

(24:15):
of balls. Wait, did you play with him in Miami? No,
I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
But to me, he's always been underrated, always been nice, hands. Made, what,
not only one, but I think four big plays.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
On third downs. Like, let's talk about that. And also,
my Tampa Bay Bucks. Tampa turned over the ball four times.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
All fumbles, right?

Speaker 3 (24:38):
They lost in the game because in spite of outplaying Cincinnati,
it stretches, right?

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Man, bro.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Baker Mayfield, 23 out of 28, 82 passing rating, 216 yards,
zero passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown, and three lost fumbles. Hey, Baker,
my dog. Some of them, the scramble gear was working. Hey,
he got away from a lot of shit that was
going on.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
He did.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
He got away from a lot of shit. And guess what?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Sometimes when you try to, you know, overdo your part sometimes,
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
In some situations, just get your ass down.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
But he fumbled in the red zone, which could have
been an easy six points, right?

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
But him being who he is, and that's why people
love him, the extra mile, extra yardage, fighting, fighting for
his team. And sometimes you don't need that. But hey,
shit happens, man.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah. I never noticed this, but did you notice? Do
quarterbacks do ball security like how running backs do ball security?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well, when I was there, when I was in Tampa,
we did.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Like tucking it away?

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, tucking it, somebody punching it. Yes, we did that.
We did that.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
We did that with the quarterbacks, even though quarterbacks look
kind of awkward doing that shit. But it's necessary. If
you want to win, you have to do it, to
be honest.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, I know they do it in the pocket when
they're holding the football and stuff like that, but I've
never seen them actually turn into runners and then try
to get ball security drills going. However, I will say
this about Baker. I think that regardless of how those
turnovers happen and when they happen, they still had an

(26:15):
opportunity to win that thing. And I don't think Tampa
should hang their head on this loss. They lost to
a good football team, a football team that when you
turn the football over even one time, you're not even
that close in a football game. And in fact, they
turned the football over three times, almost had to turn
it over four times, I think, and to still stay

(26:38):
that close. I think they were in, what, a touchdown
of losing that game? Says a lot about the Tampa
football team. I think they got a great football team.
Baker Mayfield still fought back and still rushed for a
touchdown later in that game. Emeka, he cleared at the
last minute and got on the field. He showed up
big for them. It's only a matter of time for Tampa.

(26:59):
I think it was a tough loss considering the turnovers, but,
you know.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
To me, they still had a chance to win, though.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
They still had a chance to win.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
If I was Baker, right, I noticed he tried to
take a lot of long shots, right?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
And this one, you could tell the.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Deception between the great quarterbacks, the elite quarterbacks, and the
good quarterbacks. Hey, bro, check the ball down sometimes.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Open it up. You know? You got a guy like Kenny.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
I think Kenny had, what, 79 catches last year.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Man, let him do his thing. Open it up. Start
off with the checkdowns. And guess what? The checkdowns will
eventually open up for the deep balls. Yeah. Right?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
I think he started off just trying to sling it
downfield a little bit too much.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (27:44):
And it was getting put in those third and... or
third and 20s, third and 15. Bro, that is hard
on third down. We have to be manageable. Also, Bucky,
hold on to the ball. When you run it to
the right, why would the ball be in your left hand? Nah,
this is park ball shit.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Switch it.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Use your free arm. And also, can we talk about
Chris Godwin? I don't know. This motherfucking guy strong out
the blue. You seen him stiff arms?

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Man, I saw him.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
The fact that he stiff on Buddy and Buddy retaliated
quick as shit. He stiff on him through the ground.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Ounced him up like a basketball. Man, he caught him
in the up and suplexed him. I'm like, damn, them
boys WWEing out here.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, that shit.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Real out there. And also, right, let's talk about this, bro.
What does Coach Bull say on Monday.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
To the team?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I mean, that's your coach. You tell me, and then
I'll tell you what I think he should say. But
that's your coach. You know what he going to say.
You tell us what he going to say. For sure.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
For number one, the D-line, we need more. Off the ripper. Mm-hmm.
Y'all let Chase Brown kind of get off on y'all
like that?

Speaker 2 (28:54):
He definitely got off.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Like, we need more.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Bang.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
We need more. Big Vita, we need more. Linebacker, see?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
And this where the captains, will be missed. Levante David.
It didn't look bad, but come on now. That's not
Tampa's defense. That wasn't the Tampa defense I know. I
played against. I played with.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Pick this shit up, y'all. Pick this shit up.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
It was opening day. I would say the Trotter kid
who caught the pick six, I think he played really well.
I think overall they played well. It's just the turnover
margin was just so big. It was hard to kind
of come back especially considering that you know the Bengals
got field goals out of most of those they got
points that added up, right, into being a difference in

(29:43):
the score. I would say this for Todd Bowles. You know,
he's a Super Bowl winning coach. So, you know, he's
going to say the right thing. But I look at
that game and say, if we protect the football, we
walk out of that stadium with a dub.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, we win.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
If we even take away two of these turnovers, we
walk out of that stadium with a dub. You know,
I think they're very close to figuring it out. Obviously,
last year they started hot. Then, you know, they lost
a sizzle toward the end. And to start the season
like this, I'm sure for them, for a lot of
those players that's used to winning, it was very tough, right?
Baker Mayfield threw a touchdown. Well, should have had a

(30:24):
touchdown to Tez Johnson. right, that was a drop, right?
So it's all those things that, yeah, they still scored
on that drive, but it ate at the clock to
be able to do it two plays later or play later. So,
you know, it's so many little minute things that when
you really look back at it and they watch the
tape on this, they're going to be like, damn, we

(30:44):
were right there. We was this close. But I think
if they get those turnovers corrected, man, they're going to
be a good football team.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
And also, let me defend my LSU brotherhood right fast.
Russell Wilson went on CBS today and.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Said, your bro is gone. Russell, what the fuck is
you talking about?

Speaker 3 (31:09):
A guy in that caliber, yeah, I understand they went
three seasons straight, not going to the playoffs, right? They
had injuries, you know, chasing Higgins this year. Man, listen,
when we see this team at full strength, that's healthy
at full tilt, they are unstoppable, man. And for us,
for a guy your caliber that played to say that,

(31:29):
you had down years yourself.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Let's be real.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I don't know you say that to clickbait, to get views.
Don't say that dumb shit no more, bro. You done
pissed me off when I heard you say that crazy
ass shit.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
And I agree, bro. And Russ is, in a way,
just entering the media. So I guess to some degree
I understand what he's trying to do. But You know,
you know, like I know, man, a head coach is
more expendable than a good ass quarterback. When you have
a great quarterback, you know, he ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Like he got to absolutely, absolutely want out and make
sure that he want out. You know, I think Zach Tiller.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Maybe Zach Tiller is on the hot seat. But if
you look at this team, what, three, four years ago,
they were playing for the Super Bowl. And through injuries
over the last couple of years, they just haven't been
able to get back to their rightful place. But I
really do think this is the time for them. The
Steelers aren't the best in the division anymore. The Browns

(32:34):
are weak, right? The Ravens look like the Ravens, and
we know this. Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase have been
the Ravens killers since they showed up. So they have
an opportunity this year to win that division and make
it to the playoffs. And as far as afterseason, offseason stuff,
if anybody going nowhere, anywhere, you best believe it's not

(32:56):
Joe Burrow. You better believe that.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
There you go. Hey, let's go on to the next.
The Raiders and the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Hold on, I'll ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Oh, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Do you think Cincinnati could beat Cincinnati without Joe Burrow?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Nah, they tried it last year when he got hurt.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Fair enough. You sound like you need to be on
CBS getting paid, bro.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Hey, CBS, how I let your boys forth and south?
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Whatever show this guy on there talking crazy about. You
know what I'm saying? He want all quarterbacks to lose
their jobs now since he ain't got none.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, that's what it seem like.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
On to the next, man. Raiders beat the Dolphins 27-13.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
I tell people, bro, Kirk Cousins, listen, he still could
dial it up at the age he's at. Kirk Cousins,
21 of 30, 160 yards, three touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
He had two interceptions, right?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Malik Willis, 15 of 27, 220 yards, no touchdowns, one interception,
66.9 rating, sack five times for 35 yards.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Hey. I saw good flashes. I saw good flashes out
of the Dolphins, though, Leonard. I saw I saw a
lot of good things, especially in the past game. I
got H.E.N. I think he's you know, he's a Christian

(34:19):
McCaffrey of that team. He's to get the ball in
his hands as many times as possible, as many ways
as possible. But I saw I saw Malik Willis throw
the ball on time. I saw a defense that in
the beginning of this game, they were scrappy, bro. They
were scrappy. They still made plays. The two picks that
Kirk Cousins threw, normally, you know, Dolphins defenders are dropping
those passes. This year, they're catching them. So I think

(34:41):
that if you're a Dolphin fan, I am more optimistic
than I was going into the season. I think the
head coach and the GM has done a great job
of kind of putting together a collection of players, young, old, whatever,
mixing it up, whatever, to make this happen. But the
Oakland Raiders team, we expected them to win. They have
a veteran at quarterback. They have an animal as a

(35:02):
running back, right? They got the pieces to, you know,
win a game like this against a Dolphins team who
don't really have the infrastructure and the key positions to
make the plays that stars make.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I can say this, right? I can say this. It
goes back. Please listen. Protect the ad sets. Protect the quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
You know, I understand he got sacked a lot of times,
but once again, he's a mobile quarterback himself, Paul.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Jarvis, right? And despite everything, Miami ran the ball 18
times with H.N. on the roster. Explain that. You have to.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
You might not be confident in the passing game. You
might not be confident in the guys that he's throwing
the ball to at the time, right?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
H.N.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Is going to be the difference maker. Once they get
him going, the machine is going to get going. Point blank, period.
I feel like Cousins performed well It's expected. A lot
of guys may forget when he was with Atlanta, there
was what, six and one?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Always start off well.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Now, finishing throughout the season, we'll have to see, but
it's expected.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
The thing I see with Cousins is if he's not
playing on time, he makes mistakes. And I see this
over and over and over, and I think that's the
knock on court, Cousins. Like, If this guy can't play
on time and he has to play off schedule, he
doesn't want to get hit. So if he ain't playing
on time, he throwing the ball away or he's, or

(36:30):
he's throwing it to us. And I think that's the
thing moving forward with Oakland that, you know, we, and
I saw this today and I'm going to say it
right now. We may see Fernando, Fernando Mendoza this year.
I'm just going to say it because I saw some things,
even in this win that as a what 16 year vet,

(36:50):
He shouldn't be making Drake Mayesh type mistakes out there, right?
And again, a win is a win. And I'll let
Oakland ride on this one. I like Kirk Cousins. I'll
give him some grace. But I do see if he
continues this and people figure out the pattern that if
he doesn't play on schedule, he makes mistakes. I think
you can see Clint Kubiak make a decision at that

(37:14):
point to go with Fernando Mendoza. I'm saying it right
here on Forth and South tonight.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
All right. 100%.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Y'all heard it here first. Can we get into the
Bills and Texans? Hey, that was a good-ass game, Jarvis.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
It was.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
That was a good-ass game. Josh Allen hit Josh Palmer.
A lot of Joshes on this motherfucker. I see why
the real Josh Allen changed his name. He hit Josh
Palmer for a 34-yard touchdown with a minute and 41
seconds left. The two-point... They tried, failed, right? Houston got
the ball back, moving to Buffalo territory. Greg Russo, hey,

(37:51):
my young boy, hey, he always had it now. I've always,
I told you, when Vindham, when he was up in
age at the time, he was still younger. When Vindham
got to leaving, going to make plays, you got paid,
knocked the ball loose. Terrell Bernard, another guy that I
went out of there to practice, and the one-on-ones, getting better,
making each other better.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
With nine seconds left on the clock, got the ball back. But, hey,
Good ass game.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
I think on both ends, right, despite of whatever the
case may be, even on the first, the first, the
first drive, right?

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Kind of a ballsy call to me.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
They went for it on fourth and one with Josh
Allen trying to scramble to the left. Number three came up,
made a spectacular, spectacular tackle.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Who tackles his big ass one-on-one like that? It's hard.
It's hard tackling him. Josh Allen went for 20.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Of 29, 334 yards, two passing touchdowns, with 130 pass rating,
with two rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Damn, he ain't lying. Hey, that's some crazy-ass numbers.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
His previous four games in Houston were all losses, right?
Buffalo offense. The guys, you know what I'm saying? Dalton,
he was a young guy when I was there.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Five catches, 130 yards. and D.J. Marquardt, a 40-yard, 43-yard touchdown.
We're going to C.J.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Stride.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
How do you feel like C.J. Stride did today?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I thought he did good. I thought he did exceptionally well.
I think that he got out of trouble when he
needed to get out of trouble. He tried to play
on time as much as possible, made some tight window throws. Again,
it comes down to protection in those moments, right? And
I think Buffalo rushed three, maybe four guys, and they

(39:38):
got there. I think when you look at how Houston
moved the ball, when the clock got against them, they
kind of panicked a little bit, right? And That's one
of those things that's been the Achilles heel of the
Houston Texans for the last two years. But from what
I saw today, I'm excited about their running game and
their passing game and how it all works out together.

(40:00):
Montgomery had an amazing day today on the ground and
also catching the football. I thought he played well. I
thought he helped keep everything balanced. And again, despite the
stats of Josh Allen– Houston defense plays stingy now. Yeah.
I know giving up 300 yards don't sound, but when

(40:22):
you play a shootout game like that, those things happen.
And again, Josh Allen had to come show up with
an MVP-level performance to win that game.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
And maybe, is this a secret, right? Maybe the Texans
can't defend a mobile quarterback.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Maybe they can't, but you know, again, they can't, maybe
they can't just, maybe it's just Josh Allen. Maybe it's
just Lamar Jackson's does a world. And that's only, that's
only two names. Yeah. When you look at all of
everybody else that's on his schedule, they're not that mobile.
They're not as that athletic, right. They can't throw the
ball and run the ball that effective.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
So, you know, I'm, I'm excited for Houston. I think
we talked about this in our, in our predictions of
like how the season would go in that division and,
And also just for them as a whole, being that
everybody over there is on the hot seat. CJ Stroud
didn't get paid. You know, the head coach, I believe,
is on the hot seat. Former player, he's done a
hell of a job while he's been there, but he's

(41:19):
on the hot seat. Let's call it spade to spade.
But I think what they put on the film today,
what they put on tape today, was excellent. Despite the loss,
I think they put exceptional, exceptional things on tape. You know,
I watched the Indy game versus Baltimore game. I think
if that team in Houston shows up and play against
Indians out of that division, they win that game. I

(41:39):
think that's a team that can compete with Jacksonville Jaguars, right?
And then, obviously, with Tennessee, that's a team that blows
Tennessee out. So if you look at Houston in the
landscape of it all, you got to be excited as
a Houston Texan fan.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
You have to be.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
And you know we have our younger brother, Booty, over there, right? But, bro,
Nico Collins made some big catches. He turned up when
he needed to turn up, right? See why he's wide
receiver one over there. To me, the Texans, I think
the Texans, do you think the Texans are still favorite
to win this out?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, listen, it's hard. It's day one and Jacksonville, they're amazing.
They just put up, you know, Jacksonville just blew out Cleveland. Again,
we can't, if the bar is against Cleveland, then, you know,
it's kind of tough to tell. But I will say
Houston Texans played a Super Bowl caliber team today. They
faced the MVP today. And they held their own in

(42:35):
their own right. And again, like I say, as a
Houston Texan fan, even as a player, as a coach
on that staff, you've got to be excited about what
you saw and out your guys from every position, the
quarterback position, the D-line, the Neil Hunter affected the game.
You know, those cornerbacks, like they affected the game. You know,
like you mentioned earlier, a cornerback coming up on a

(42:56):
fourth down to make a tackle on Josh Allen. That
rarely happens, right? You know, but the thing that interests
me is, right, you know, Buffalo goes on the road
to Houston and get the win. You know, Joe Brady,
first-time coach, LSU guy, he goes and get his first win.
They gave him the game ball, but, like, he took
his shirt off in the locker room. Like, what was

(43:17):
that about? Did he do that when?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
No, no, but that wasn't his role at the time, right?
He was an officer coordinator. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
You know, I think he's been there a long, tender
time with these guys. He understands what these guys have
been through. And I think he wants them to get
over that hump together. Cause they all fell short as
a unit over, over the last couple of years. So
his first one as a coach, uh, shirt off, you know,
he's young. So that's him, you know, young. So it,
I mean, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
And to me, uh, at this point also, this is
going back on CJ stride. I know he hasn't, they
had talks about him getting paid or whatever, but CJ stride.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
To me is the franchise quarterback.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Hey, the man, hey, the guy, uh, And that's what
it is. I agree.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
How well do you think Buffalo does this year? Like,
were you happy about how they performed? I know you
had a short stint in Buffalo, right? Yeah. But based
on what you saw, does this look like the same
Buffalo team that we've all known to grow in?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, of course. Regular season. Regular season, they're going to
do their thing. They're going to put up points. They're
going to win.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Everything counts in playoffs. They're going to win in the
regular season. I'm just going to be real with you.
You see that James Cook making, like, that offense.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
It's hard to stop. It's very hard to stop. So,
I'm going to say this, right? Yes, they might.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
They're going to get 12 wins for sure. It's a
12-win team for sure. But once the regular season's over, bro,
we're going to need y'all to kick in to playoff mode, right?
I know it's early, but I just want to put
y'all on the mind, right? They always have good regular seasons.
Great regular season. So, same Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Do they win the division? Or do they... Lose to
the Patriots. The Jets won today, by the way.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Right, but I think they win the division.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
They win the division.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
They win the division.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Josh Allen win MVP?

Speaker 1 (45:10):
I don't know, bro. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Is he off to a good start, at least? Is
he on the ballot?

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Of course. But let's not forget Joe Burrow. Paul Jackson.
Out of the day.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Patty Mahomes is coming back. they're saying he might start
the first game.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah he's cleared to play the first game what do
you think about that what do you think about that
by the way.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
I'm i'm excited to see the the the air show
he to me he's the air show yeah besides josh
allen i don't think there's another guy that arm talent
as him yeah in the league yeah so we will
see i'm excited to see him come back.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah i think having pat mahomes back out there tomorrow
uh monday night football um Like, it's going to be exciting.
I think it's going to be electric. And it's what
this game needs. I didn't expect him coming back so soon.
If I'm honest with you, I didn't think he would
be back to, like, week four, week five. You know

(46:11):
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
But listen, different generation, therapies, these medicines, they work, y'all.
You hear me? They work.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
That's why I truly feel some of the guys back
in the day, they're kind of jealous of us because.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
They ain't have all this. They have all this technology
to make them bounce back in months. You know what
I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
You know, back in the day, the first guy who
ever did it was Adrian Peterson with ACL.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yep. He came back.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
He looked faster, stronger. You know what I'm saying? That
was the start of everything. But see, now, oh, yeah,
it's a different world.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Why would you rank these quarterbacks, the top five guys
that we just mentioned? where would you rank these guys?

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Are we talking about their overall careers or what you saying?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Just now. If you had to start a football team
and you have five different teams, maybe you're a fantasy
franchise owner, right? And you have to lead one of
these guys, top five, all of these guys, give me
your top five quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I'm going to go with Patty. I'm going to go
with Josh. I'm going to go with Lamar. Yep. I'm
going to go with Joe.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Who am I messing up?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Anybody you say. I think those top four are very correct.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Yeah, I'm going to leave it right there. I'm going
to go five. I'm sold on that.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
So I know your guy Brock Purdy is your guy.
Is he in the top five right now?

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Not right now. Okay. Not right now.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I just want to double check. I was just trying
to see if.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
You were going through some wild shit.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Next team.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Hey, the Saints and the Lions was another great-ass game, man. Hey,
if you wasn't excited for the day, I don't know
what's wrong with you. They went into overtime 31-30. The
Lions win. Detroit led the third quarter 21-0. New Orleans
Saints came all the way back. Jared Goff, 29 out
of 39. 206 yards, two touchdowns, no turnovers. Passing rating 96.7.

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Tyler Schultz.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Hey, Tyler, hey. I can say this.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Saints, he might be the franchise quarterback.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
He went 35-56. God damn.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah. They had to. They were behind.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
A career-high 410 yards, three touchdowns, two interceptions, plus a
lost fumble on the set. Olavi had 10 catches for 182. Career-high.
Detroit offense. Detroit ran it 33 times.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Ooh.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Hey, for 165 with Gibbs carrying 29 times with 156,
adding five catches.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
And as we know, Detroit old school. They're going to
run the ball. They're going to keep it balanced.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
I wasn't mad at the overtime call. As y'all know,
we say, no risk it, no biscuit. Now, the play call,
questionable for sure. Me personally, I would have ran some
type of mesh routes because I'm trying to think, were
they in zone?

Speaker 2 (49:24):
No, they were in man. They had the perfect play call,
but they got held up at the line. So the
first read to Olave back in the flat wasn't there.
So he had to go to the number two option.
Only thing about that play, if your number one is
not there.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
It's over.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
It's done.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
It's over.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
But ultimately, as a Saints fan, as someone from New Orleans, right,
do you like the nuts, the cojones that it takes
to be in that situation and instead of kicking a
field goal and trusting your defense and playing for another overtime,
you go for two to win it? Do you like that?

Speaker 1 (50:04):
That's gutsy.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
I'm not mad at it at all. I'm not mad
at it at all, right? Like I say, me personally,
if there was a man, I would have probably ran
mesh routes.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Unless the defense was good at it to pass it on.
But like you said, they were in man, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, they ran a pick route. They were trying to
run a pick route for Chris Olave. Chris Olave came
in motion, and then he stopped and shot back to
the flat. And two guys that was on the football,
they were supposed to set a rub for him. so
that he could run into the flat and catch. Great thought,
great concept, great concept, right? But at the same time,

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it's also one of those play calls that pigeonholes you into,
if your first read is not there, the play is
probably over with.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, it's dead. It's probably dead, it's probably dead. But
like I said, to me it was a gutsy call,
but hey, no risk it, no biscuit.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
I enjoyed the game. It was a lot of physicality
going on, as you know. hey, the Lions are going
to run the ball, regardless of whatever you think, whatever
you got going on. Chase Young came up with a
big sack, a forced fumble, you know, to cause some things.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, there was controversy around that. They didn't give him the,
what did you think? As you were watching the game,
did you think it was a sack fumble? Because that
was a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
To me, it was a sack fumble, but you know,
as we all know, it's like LSU.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
They hit on the Saints too, bro. Right. Hey, be real.
They hit on the Saints.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Somebody pulled the script out and was like, nah, this
ain't a part of the script. Right.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
In the last couple years, even the controversy called when
they played against the Rams.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
That should have been interference for sure. But hey, hey, hey, hey.
We not refs. We not that. Shit happens. Right. Shit happens.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Right.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
But it was a great game. Shout out to both teams.
Our home team, you know?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
And hey, no risk, no business. Coach, I respect the call.
So you're in my respect. They lost by one.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
They didn't get blown out. They came back. They showed grit, resiliency.
Shout out to the Saints.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, yeah. I want to shout out Jawan Johnson, too, man.
He made a couple plays there after not being involved
pretty much the whole entire game. And he just made
play after play after play after play. And I'm just
thinking to myself, like, man, this is a guy that
They can't wait any longer to get this guy involved

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in a game. This guy got to be in those
first 15. He has to be in your game playing
on third down. He's a mismatched nightmare for defenders, linebackers,
safeties with his size and with his speed. So I
was happy to see that, you know, the Saints may
have found their guy, bro.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
I was really happy to see that the Saints may
have found their guy. And I'm not talking about the quarterbacks.
I'm talking about the head coach. I think they found
their guy, bro. I think he understands what it means.
He's played the game, right? He played the game at
a high level in college, in the NFL. Obviously, he
didn't do so well. But, you know, he was one

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of those guys that stayed around because he was smart
at football. He knew the game. And to have this
guy calling your players and leading a football team with
the type of nuts and the type of balls that
it takes to to say, you know what, this is
a game that we could possibly could win. Let's be conservative.
He said, nah, I ain't going back to the city

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to be conservative. I'm going back to the city with
a double, period. And I like that he put it
all on the table. I respect that. I respect that.
Being from Louisiana, that's what it's about.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Shout out to the city. Also, can we talk about
the Bears and the Panthers? I feel like I was
watching the goddamn college game.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Yeah. Hey, defense was not there today, huh? Couldn't have been.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Oh, my God. Okay, Bears 59, Panthers 37.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
It's the highest scoring opener in NFL history. 96 points
total combined.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Breaks the record for 88 set when Tampa beat New
Orleans 48-40 in 2018. Most points Carolina has ever allowed. Listen,
let me talk about these two quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Kayla Williams, look. Magnificent.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, but I never, I never, he always shocks me
when he scrambles and he looks fast. Like, I'm always, like, shocked. Like, damn. Like,
look at this dude running. Like, he's skating.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
He had gloves like that in Oklahoma when he played
for Oklahoma, right? But today, he had 21 out of 29,
269 yards, two passing touchdowns, no picks, passing rate of 124,
a 65-yard rushing touchdown, 65 rushing yards with two rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
He had like a Josh Allen game.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
It was a Josh Allen game for sure. But Bryce Young,
23 out of 37, 361 yards, three touchdowns, one interception,
107 pass rating, plus a seven-yard rushing touchdown. Hey, that
seven-yard rushing touchdown? But he hit a motherfucker with the
dead leg?

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Hey.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Offense-wise, Chicago had 552 total yards. They ran the ball
39 times. Hey, make running backs great again. DeAndre Swift,
y'all just paid him.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
That's dope. That's what I like to see.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, he had to get down the ground.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
291 yards, 7.5 a carry.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Jesus. Six rushing touchdowns, right? DeAndre Swift, 18 carries.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
124 yards.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Three touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Fantasy on us. Y'all should pay that man now.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Put him in. Yeah, put him in.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Y'all owe him.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
X-Mizell, cash out. Draw him a little something, bro. Draw
him a little something.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Yes, and Swift did sign a $ 33. 75 million extension with
27.5 guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah, and he returned on investment today. I thought he
did a great job carrying the football and just making
guys missing open space. You know what I mean? He
was a big.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Oh, yes. Yes.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, he was a big reason for their win today.
But let's go to Carolina. We talked about that Carolina
team being very close, right? They had a deep playoff
run last year in the wild card, right? And they
took the Rams down to overtime, to the second. We

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think Bryce Young is close. Again, I think he's here
as well. But at the same time, like, When I
look at Carolina, I'm just thinking to myself, it's like,
what's holding this team back? Is it the youth? Is
it the defense? Like, I can't pinpoint, like, what's stopping

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them from just going over the hump.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
I think it's both, right? I think it's both. I
think it's the youth.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Also, bro, the Panthers defense couldn't stop a damn leak
in the boat, man.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
But also.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Does that– maybe they couldn't, but does that make the Bears–
does the Bears have one of the top offenses in
the league too?

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Let's talk about that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Like, to me right now, I think the Bears are
our favorite after coming off an extraordinary season they had
last year.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Well– Well, you heard Ben Johnson. I heard Ben Johnson
after the game doing a press conference say they want
to have the highest– scoring offense in the history of
the game. And the last team that did something like
that was the Denver Broncos. I think it was like

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37 points per game. So it'll be interesting to see
how they can hold up to that standard. But at
the same time, they came out and dropped a 50
piece today.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
A 50 ball Jamal.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
But also, are we going to be having Ben Johnson
naming the same brother as Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Listen, listen, I wouldn't say not now. I wouldn't say
not now, but I just don't want people to ever
forget because his days in Detroit was electric. Where Detroit,
the place Detroit had got to with going down to
San Francisco and playing for the NFC Championship, they should

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have been in the Super Bowl. What Ben Johnson and
Dan Campbell did, what Jared Goff needs to be studied.
Jared Goff coming from the Rams, he had one, two
good seasons.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
He was counted out.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
He was done.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
He was done. I was done with Jared Goff. You know,
I think people were done. But when you look at
what Ben Johnson has done, and now he has a
more electric flying player like a Caleb Williams, who's a
dual threat quarterback, who who understands the game on all
three levels you know I don't I don't think his

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comment I don't think Ben Johnson's comment about having the
best offense in the history of football is is inappropriate
I think I think it could be done he got
the weapons he's the right guy calling the plays I
think he, hey, why not aim high?

Speaker 1 (59:35):
And guess what?

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Shout out to my dog, my QB, Caleb Williams, bro.
He came out there and dominated. Not only that, not
only that, he was on the MVP cover.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
He was on the cover of Madden. On the cover
of Madden.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Keep doing your thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
You got a fan. I've been a fan of you
since you was in college. Keep doing your thing. Keep
showing them the arm strength.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
MVP performance. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Not only that, bro, the NFC South teams, they all
lost a day. Really?

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
All four NFC South teams lost a day. Is this
the worst division in football?

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Damn. See, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Because, you know, when I was there, we was dominating shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Man, it's hard to say because, like I said.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
It's week one. It's week one, too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
And Tampa played a tough Joe Burrow team. Joe Burrow
looked great today. And the Bengals' defense looked good as well. Obviously,
those four turnovers or three turnovers hurt Tampa. So I
don't know. I think Tampa definitely beat Atlanta. It just
was a tough day for the NFC side. I'm just
going to be honest with you. You know, two of

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the games, well, all three games came down to at least, what,
one score besides the Chicago-Carolina game. You know, most of
the teams in the NFC South lost by, you know,
less than 10 points. So it'll be interesting to see
how they respond. But this makes the division interesting to me.
It tells me that Carolina can score with the best

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of them. It tells me that New Orleans ain't going away.
It also tells me that Tampa is who they say
they are, minus the turnovers, and that Atlanta is going
to finish last, period, with or without Tua.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Okay, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Listen, we got a couple of quick hits, y'all. Philly
beats Washington 24-22. Hey, close game. Close game. Taequann looked good.
Jalen looked well. He played well. Defense was the defense.
That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Yeah. Anything you want to talk about on that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
I thought it was a good game, man. Like you mentioned...
Saquon playing good. I think Jaden Daniels played good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Stephon Diggs looked good in his first outing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
It'll be interesting to see how they build off of it. And, again,
Washington had a chance to win this game. They called
a two-point play. David Blau, first-time offensive coordinator. I think
you want to say he's like 31 years old, 32
years old. So he's younger than us. He's called him
to play his NFL game. I thought he did a

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great job in his first outing. But if you look
at the play on the two-point conversion, the running back
in the flat was wide open. You could tell that
in practice they only repped this one way, the ball
going to one person, opposed to like reading it out.
And I think that that's something that hurt their chances
of winning this game or at least tying it up.

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But Jalen Hurts, he did enough not to lose this game.
Devontae Smith showed up when it mattered. And Philly's defense,
give them credit, man. Vic Fangio, he's been a number
one defense builder for the last four or five years.
He even found a way to do it here in Miami.
So again, man, you got to give the champs credit.

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they won a tough one inside of the division. And,
you know, they got to just keep on backing it
up week in and week out. It was a good
opening game for them, though, like as far as like
the matchup and how close it was. I mean, it
tells you how tight that division is going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Vikings beat Green Bay. Carson Wentz after Calamari goes down. Hey,
there's nothing like having a guy with experience.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Man, did you see the hit on Kyler Murray, bro?

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Hey, bros.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
But tell me this. The player that hit him, bro,
he kind of like went all the way low to
the ground like to like, like he wasn't trying to
protect Kyler at no point. But you can't blame him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Blame the NFL, right?

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
It was a lot of, to me, I think it
would be shady hits when guys catching the ball with
their back turn.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
You aiming straight for his legs. Like, what?

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
To me personally, I don't respect that. I'm a type
of guy, you never want to see nobody get hurt,
but don't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
To me, that's foolish shit.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
You know what I'm saying? Understand, know how to tackle,
also protect each other.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
But guess what? Once he hurt, you hurt, the league
don't care about you. It's over with. Next man up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Always have that mentality to take care of yourself and
the guys you're playing against.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
I felt like the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Kyler Murray hit could have been prevented. I think it
could have been prevented. I think just by the guy
that came from behind him and wrapped him up up top, okay,
I see that being fair and square. But the guy
that Collar was approaching, I think it was number seven
for the Green Bay Packers, man, he literally lowered his

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body to the ground and still initiated contact forward from
my understanding. And I just think that it could have
been prevented. And at that point too, man, it's like,
I'm just going to call a spade a spade, bro.
And if I was on that field, I know Justin
Jefferson went and picked up Kyler Murray's helmet and, you know,

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said a little prayer. Man, if I was on that field,
I'm at buddy neck. Like, and I don't mean, again, like,
and I don't mean no disrespect here. Like, again, I'm
talking behind a mic on a camera. I totally understand that. But, like,
as a leader on a team, and I see that
happen to my quarterbacks, Oh, I'm going to get a,
I'm going to get a personal file to all set

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this right now. A hundred percent. I'm going to fill,
I'm going to fill away. There's, there's no, there's no
way that that wasn't avoidable, especially knowing Kyler Murray. He's
a slaughter. He, you know what I mean? Like the
situation didn't even, wasn't even supposed to go that far.
Like it wasn't even supposed to happen like that. You

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know what I mean? Um, as you as a player
right if something if you saw somebody hit brady like that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Oh listen listen we got i got film out there
you could bump you could bump my you could talk
crazy my quarterback i'm on your ass i'm on your
ass like grass i ain't gonna lie to you so
protect y'all quarterbacks as the best way y'all can yeah
and i mean we're gonna move.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
On from that prayers up for prayers up for kyle
murray definitely um but you mentioned carson wentz he did
come in the game And he did what he had
to do. It was rough for him early in the beginning.
But being that Carson Wentz had been there, he took
over for J.J. McCarthy last year. He's been in the

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same offense. I think he was the right guy to
step in. And look, we saw Drew Locke come and
do it opening night against the Patriots. I think Carson
Wentz is another good-ass example of that. And another good
example of why teams always need to have a good backup,
like not two left-handers as a starter and a backup,

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not two injury-prone quarterbacks that can't make it to week one.
You go get you a backup that you can count on.
You go get you a Case Keenum. You go get
you a Carson Wentz. You go get you a Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
And I know speaking on the quarterback situation, how do
you think J.J. McCarthy felt?

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Who cares? Who cares? Bro, you had the job. It
was your job. We had to go get another... Think
about this. We had to go get somebody else. It
was your job. Who cares how he feels? Only thing
I can say to J.J. McCarthy is, listen, keep Sam

(01:07:41):
Darnold in mind. keep sam sam donald's career in mind
as a quarterback in this in this league as long
as you can spin it make good decisions manage the
game you're gonna have a chance at some point whether
that's in minnesota or somewhere else but as far as
how he felt tonight i don't care how he felt
tonight i hope he was ready if something would happen

(01:08:01):
to carson wins i don't even know if they had
three quarterbacks up maybe we just saw justin jefferson as
the emergency quarterback right please no i hope I mean,
I saw Justin throw. Justin could throw a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Yeah, he could throw, but come on now. You know,
my quarterback in the NFL is a little different.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
No, truthfully, truthfully, truthfully. But I thought it started with
Justin Jefferson on the offsides penalty that they let turn
into a free play. And Carson Wentz followed Justin Jefferson,
and he scored. And from there, then Brian Flores turned
up the heat. He started getting after Jordan Love, making

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Jordan Love uncomfortable. Jordan Love started throwing picks, bad throws,
getting sacked, sacked fumble. And those things turned into more
points for Minnesota. I thought Minnesota started the game slow. Obviously,
everything happened with Kyler Murray, but I thought they finished. Like,
you wouldn't even think that that game, you wouldn't even
look at the score and think that Minnesota was down

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at any point in that game. Bank.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
We talk about Aaron Rodgers on the podcast, man?

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Man, he airing it out, ain't he?

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
He claims his ex-fiancee, Miss Willie, told him days after
he proposed in December 2020 that she needed to be
with another man before they married.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
What you think that meant?

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
I don't know. Either Aaron ain't putting it down or
she missing that old thing. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
They said she took the ring off by March and
rejected her account that he caused her.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Depression by leaving. I'm going to be real.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
You coming on national television and admitting somebody you wanted
to be your wife, she wanted to go deep sea
diver swimming with the fishes with somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Else, that's Listen, I would never say no shit like that.
I'm being real.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Like, what? A-Rod said he taking all the gloves, man.
He taking the gloves off, man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Listen, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
How would you say it?

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
See, God bless the truth. Listen, I'm going to be real.
I ain't got no... Listen, bro. Listen, bro. If I
decide to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Marry you and you talk about....

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
You want another man to come... Digging you before we
get married? Man, listen.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Words can't explain, bro. I ain't even got no words.
I'm going to be real. I'm going to be straight
up with you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Yeah. After that, I probably will never propose to nobody
after that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Yeah. I mean, I don't even know what to say.
You can't even say nothing to that. What you still
going to go through with the marriage, though? Hell, what?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Hell no.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
So when she said that, it was over immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Bro, listen. I probably got my sisters to whoop her ass.
You want to play with my heart? My feelings? Right, right. Look, look.
Stay right here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
I'm going to show you something.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Man, I don't, bro. I don't know, bro. That's some
weird shit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
That's tough. I think, do you think Aaron is like,
at this point in his life that he's just, you
know what, man? Like, I want to be free of
it all. Like, I've been made out to be the
villain with Danica. I was made out to be a
villain in every relationship. I've been made to seem like
I was crazy. But like, maybe he was holding all
that stuff in. Yeah. And now he's like, you know what?

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Fuck it. Let it out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Man, I'm airing it out. I'm airing it out. Oh,
you treating me like this? I'm going to let you
know how you, I'm airing you out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
But me personally, being real, bro. I would not let
no shit like that come out of my mouth. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
I'm not admitting to nothing like that. So, fuck that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Maybe that's the... Maybe it's therapeutic for him. You know?

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Fuck that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Maybe he was... Bro, but think about this, though, Leonard. Like,
I mean, you hold stuff in. I hold stuff in
to this day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
But not nothing like that, though. Not to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Like, come on, bro. It's obviously care for this woman.
And I don't know if it's true or not, but.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I haven't heard that it's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
But for her to admit that she wanted another man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
D & D smoked sausage.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Verona sausage.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Hey, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Listen, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Hey, Aaron, do your thing this year, bro. I'm glad
your mind cleared. You're not going to the cave. It
led to a win today.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Yeah, so it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
The Steelers won today. They won today. Maybe Aaron is
feeling lighter. He's feeling freer. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
And listen, I'm going to give a major shout out
to the real slingers who got the ex-girls still wanting them.
Shout out to all the real slingers who still got
their little old works chasing them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
You know what I'm saying? Keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Keep doing it. I'm going to retire.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Retire.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Also, Texas upset Ohio State. I knew it was going
to happen. I knew it was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Bro, I turned the game off. I woke up this
morning and I take my phone, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Lenny knows ball.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Hey, but listen, I don't know why you turned the
game off, bro. Archie Manning, right, despite of the throws
he made, the decisions he's made, he's known for coming back.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
It's something that's, be on the lookout for this Texas team.
And we played Texas this year, right? We're going to
whoop their ass. I don't give a fuck what's going
to happen. Listen, me and Kevin Durant, we.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Got our back going. I'm letting y'all know. Yeah. Got
a nice look back going, but they need more. Ohio
State need more guys than just JJ.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
I mean, JJ got the ball enough.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
JJ was making crazy-ass catches, but as you know, as
you know, when I'm not going to say the lights
got brighter, he was dropping a lot of passes, too.
Maybe that's from fatigue, because you know, as wide receivers,
y'all run a lot. Y'all have to be in shape,
but it was force-feeding JJ sometimes, and two-man coverage. Double team. Yeah,

(01:14:14):
you're trying to win. You want your five-star players to
make five-star plays, but you need other guys to step up.
When we played, it wasn't just Leonard Finette and Jarvis
making plays. We had guys like Scottie Miller who made plays,
who was unexpectedly making plays.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
So, Ohio State, I don't know what y'all need to do.
Shake back. Shake it off.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Y'all lucky it's not the old In SEC football where,
or college football, you get one loss, you out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
You out. So you might have one or two losses.
But understand this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Man, Archie Manning is a nightmare against a lot of teams.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
He made some throws early on when I did have
the game going. He made some throws early on that
I was very impressed with. And then one– was a
drop that we should have been a touchdown and the
other one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
And the other, the wire, the wire receivers. Oh my, Hey,
that type of shit right there. He dove in the ball,
popped off his, his, his, his, uh, by seven, man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Oh my God. I don't know. I don't know what
I would have. I don't know what I would have did.
I damn.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
That was a tough one. That was a tough one. Um,
but when I turn a game off, this is why
I turned it off. Actually. I turned it off because
it seemed like if Archie Manning wasn't throwing to his
first target, he was making mistakes or he was throwing
the ball like wildly in the vicinity of people, but
never to a receiver, like never actually hitting guys. And

(01:15:52):
I'm just looking at Ohio State office and looking at
how JJ is, you know, catching the football down the
field and how easy they're running the football as in
Ohio State. And I'm like, man, this game is over.
And lo and behold, I woke up the next morning, Leonard,
and I was like– I ate my words because I
looked at the score and I was like, wow, they
didn't score a point since the third quarter. And Texas

(01:16:18):
came running back. Like, it's crazy. I was shocked. But
it also tells me this Texas team, you know, yeah,
they may have some fight in them, but, you know–
I don't know how they going to fare against LSU
based on how LSU looked against La Tech, because I
wasn't happy with that shit either.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Rob Markman Well, also, let's be real. We all know
we played against teams like La Tech, right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Listen, listen.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
When I was there, we started off shitty, just being
frank with you. That's always been a thing at LSU.
Started off shitty.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
They picked it up. It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
I don't have no doubt in my mind that when
it comes to the big boy games, we're going to
handle our business and do our thing from the start
to the finish.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I didn't like what I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Right, right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
No, for sure, it's always that. But I didn't like
what I saw because I felt like we had too
much momentum coming off of the Clemson game to start
so slow. And, like, not only start so slow, we
had three turnovers in the first half. And it's hard
to beat teams like that. It's hard to, like, you know,
show up against an opponent like Ole Miss the next
week and have the same level of confidence that you

(01:17:27):
should have had against Clemson. And you're playing La Tech, like,
You know, no offense to La Tech, no offense to
those teams, smaller schools that we play that's on the
schedule to fill the space. Like those are stat games, bro.
Those are games where, okay, I'm going from, I know
I'm getting my 100 yards, I get my 200 yard
game rushing for you, you know, and then I'm coming
out the game. Like you're trying to get out of

(01:17:48):
those games as fast as possible. And we damn near
had to play three quarters for our starters to get
out the game. That's not good, bro. I didn't like that.
And Lane showed the frustration. I think Lane's going to
get it fixed and corrected. And Lane needs to go
in there and tell him. And I'm sure he is.
If y'all play like this next Saturday, y'all going to
get your ass kicked.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Period.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
And speaking on next Saturday, it's going to get messy.
It's going to get real.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
I was happy about the defense, though.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
I thought they were going to fly around.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Lights out.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
They're going to fly around regardless.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Offense, in the past history of LSU, besides the Joe
Brewer era, offense has always been the slow guy, the
slow starter.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Yeah. Well, I mean, I was thinking that you would
see the weakness of the team, in a way, against Clemson.
And LSU looked at a lot more balance against Clemson. Offense, defense,
special teams. Yeah. last night against La Tech, it just
seemed like the offense is the weaker side of the
football for us. Listen, I understand that. We couldn't even

(01:19:00):
run the ball, Leonard.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Listen, I understand that. Don't be surprised if LSU....

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Listen, I ain't scared, but I'm nervous.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
I ain't nervous at all.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
See, when you actually dare, I know you're watching it
from TV right now, because they've been wanting Mr.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Jarvis Landry to come back. I don't know when you're
going to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
But the energy that that team brings, the energy that
Kiffin brings, that's going to play ball.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
I'm looking forward to it, man. Listen, again, you know
I'm a Tiger through and through. And I do have
real faith and confidence in this team. But I just
worry about how we show up week in and week out. Like,
our opponent can't dictate how we show up, bro. Like,

(01:19:55):
you know this, man. Like, because we play. Like, I
remember playing against, like, UAB and, like, Furman. And it's like, yo,
the infamous Odell return. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
We got them dogs out at all times, and we
putting this shit away quick, early, and fast. It ain't
none of this in-state brotherly love. That's what it felt like.
And Sam Levitt, again. He could spin it. I want
him to make better decisions with the football going into
this next week. I think they need to figure out

(01:20:33):
how to run the football early. And if not, and
we become a one-dimensional team, Leonard, I'm afraid. I'm just
going to let you know. We can't be a one-dimensional
football team. That side of who we are, especially in
the backfield, we got some good backs, but we don't
have a fleet of backs of a Leonard Fournette And

(01:20:55):
Darius Geis and, you know, Kenny Hill, your Jeremy Hill.
And you don't have a fleet. We got like one,
maybe two guys. Like, you know, we got to get
that backfield going, man. So we can play through the
play action fake. So we can get some run action going.
You know, win some short yardage points, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
I understand your frustration.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Yeah, I'm very frustrated. I was sick watching the game.
I was like, man, I was sick. I was sick.
I ain't going to lie. I'm going to keep a
straight face.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
But listen.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Next week, we'll have our popcorn ready and waiting, excited
for this game.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Because guess what? Old piss never going to stop us. Ever.
That's the game I had the infamous, the.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Famous 16 carries, 284 yards.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
17.6 yards a carry. Tree touchdown. Yeah. Let's get into that.
Let's talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Talk about it. I love Oxford. Was that at home
or was that away?

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
That was home.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
That was home. I remember that. That was home. That's
when you hit that ball on the sideline. I remember.
Put him through the earth.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Buried him.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Buried him six feet under.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
I buried that little.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Boy before COVID. He was six feet before COVID.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
You hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
What? Why you put that boy through the earth? I
remember being in Cleveland, watching that game, and everybody was like, bruh,
ain't no way he should be out there playing with
them little boys. I was like, bruh, listen, he'll be
up here next year. This is the last year of
college football. But people were so amazed that this dude,
big as hell, he running fast as hell. running people

(01:22:24):
over like this like this man is a grown man
out there playing with these little boys that's that that
was the conversations in the cleveland browns locker room after
that old miss game yeah but can you talk about
like can you talk about after you ran him over
because you ran him over on their sideline like did
anybody on their sideline say like oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Listen when uh.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
When the Megatron, the Jumbotron, they played the replay, bro,
the whole stadium said, ooh! Like, bro, it was like
a big-ass bomb went off or something.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
I'm like, damn.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Like I told you, after the game, like this is
when the memes first started happening, bro. They got the
man buried with a tombstone on top of him and everything.
I told him, bro, like, bro, don't worry about that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
It's football. He's like, I'm good. Next thing you know,
he transferred. I'm like, damn.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
He transferred?

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
He went to Houston. Yeah, he went to Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Man, you sent the man through the earth for another team?

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Not me, brother. Man, I don't know what happened, bro.
But listen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
He probably couldn't get away from that, bro. They probably
were clowning him the whole time. Don't make me call
Leonard Fournette for your head.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
But listen, today was the first NFL week, right? We
got Monday Night Football coming up, too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
We're excited. This is our first season together. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
It's our first NFL season. The Fourth Inside guys, bro,
we appreciate everybody. every subscriber, every comment, everybody who's staying
in tune with the show. We love and appreciate y'all.
We'll see y'all in a couple of days.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
A couple of days. We appreciate y'all. We love y'all.
Y'all be safe. Fourth and South.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
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