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June 15, 2026 55 mins

Former NFL stars Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette REACT to San Francisco 49ers wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk going ROGUE on social media after his arrest warrant for speeding over 100 mph. Lenny and Juice also react to the BLOCKBUSTER trade sending AJ Brown from the Philadelphia Eagles to the New England Patriots, breaking down why Jalen Hurts might've been the reason the receiver wanted OUT of Philadelphia. The guys also discuss Aaron Donald's potential return to the Los Angeles Rams and how they too would've gambled in college like Texas Tech's quarterback Brendan Sorsby.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow with sham baby man.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
The summer, I feel like the summer is like officially underway,
right it is here. It's hot outside, the kids running wild,
standing up all times of the day, social media going crazy.
I get on social media the other day I see

(00:40):
people putting pineapple, taking kool Aid packs and putting on pineapples.
If that ain't the hoodie ship I ever saw. Listen,
I can tell you this Dia beat is gonna be
through the roof, through the roof.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
It's no listen and and and we're gonna we're gonna
get back on the foot. But like, as a community,
what are we doing? We just making things up, bro
that we're just making it up. Definitely, like like now, now,
if I didn't know what I know now, you know,
if you was talking to the nay old Leonard for that, Yeah,

(01:20):
I'm all in, all in, I'm all in.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
We'll flavor, We'll flavor you putting on your pine we see.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Anna tell me listen, I was a different type of child,
so I probably mixed all that, every every color into one.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Oh my god, rainbow pineapple crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
So I'm gonna say this now that I'm older, and
you know, we study about the body. You know, it's
certain things to put in your body. What's good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
It was not good for you. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I take a I take a blood, a blood chart test, right,
and it shows you the fruit, the vegetables that's good
for your body.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Right. They have who sensitivity tests.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, so my my body personally, Like I used to
love cran mary juice, but it makes me swell right,
So information yeah everywhere everywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
So I stopped. I had to stop drinking that ship. Damn,
that's crazy. Cranberry supposed to be like a like a
beneficial thing. Yeah, I had to stop. Bro It came
back on my chart red. Damn, that's crazy. So would
you give you? Would you let again? Would you let
your kids do the pineapple pineapp Listen?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
They kids, I let them. I let them try one.
We ain't about to eat the whole fucking thing.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
One one cool, Get you get you one right, get
you one fell off your day, Let you go outside
of the rest of the day. Man. I love it.
I love it. I know you guys been. I know
you guys been. You know training, you know you send
me a beautiful video, you little man. The whole fam
in a gym working out. You you on the sideline,

(02:51):
proud dad coach moment like like now that this summer
kicked off, like bro, like like how is that going? Man?
Tell us a little bit about that.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Man, The summer has been great. Man, I'm not gonna lie.
Like just uh, finally seeing the fruit of my labor.
It's harvesting right now.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Seeing my sons, my daughter's workout and the genetic genes
they got from me.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I don't know. I can't speak on their moms. I
can't speak on their mothers. I din't get this from
your mother.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
But like just seeing me and my kids, the body structure,
how fast they are, they're picking up on techniques, willing
to learn. But I love that yesterday man, they had
like this, you got like this kid O t as
for kids in each and every age group, and the
same drill happens I teach them at home. Their coaches

(03:43):
was doing it for them, right. I see every I
see every kid go the foll co on drill. You
gotta run, Uh what it is? Breakdown?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Breakdown?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
You gotta you gotta shuffle, backpedal and sprint. Yeah, bro,
I'm telling I've seen every kid, every kid they went
before with a cone. I said, God, please live, please
please help me not to bat my son, because if
you get this ship wrong. We've been doing this shit
the whole summer, I said. I say in my mind,
I say, son, please run past the cone, take a

(04:16):
couple take a couple more steps. Yeah, as long as
you finish outside that cone, we're good.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
They did it, Bro, I'm talking about It was the
proudest moment for me. I'm not gonna lie, right, and
now vice versa. They seeing me train, they seen me
do this, doing all this hard stuff. My son asked
me of like, Dad, like, does it hurt be working out,
be training, be pushing myself when I'm thirty years old

(04:44):
pushing myself.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm like, Son, I had to let him know.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Brother, if you want to be the best, it's not
gonna be easy, right, And I'm gonna show you the way.
But I want you to understand this. Yes, I'm your father,
I love you. But if we gonna be all in
with these sports, that Quentin, that complaining, the crying, Yes,
that ship has to stop. It has to it has

(05:09):
to get out of the window. Because my youngest son, legend,
he has a big issue with like losing you know,
my oldest like coming in reps. Yeah, like like like
my son is six years old, his brother about to
be ten. Right, they raised the cone to cone. Bro,
he's stopping in the middle because he's getting I said, Bro,

(05:31):
you don't do that.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah. Yeah, finish You're gonna You're gonna finish this ship.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Right, We were finishing this right, So I'm like, all right,
this available lesson. He's gonna learn at this age, right,
and not only that, the mental aspect of everything.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
So, as I'm going on, and I was on Instagram
this morning, I've seen Brandon Are you what his name?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Brandon? Are you? Are you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
And it brings back the business part and the mental
part of this game.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
You play wide receiver. You know. I have my own stands.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
I would like to speak on that about but can
you elaborate or what you think the problem is with Brandon?
Does he need more people to around him and tell
him listen, enough is enough? You know you're ready, You're
ready to throw away millions of dollars?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Man, somebody need to get that phone from him. I
feel I feel I feel like somebody need to get
that phone from him, right, I mean and also as
we could take it back as far as to your kids, right, Like,
there is a mental component that comes into the game.
The game is not just physical, right, And I think
for some people we learn it at a young age. Right.

(06:36):
Six probably may be a little bit too young, right,
But it's good that he's seeing it. You never want
to get used to losing, right. But I think when
you look at in this case as a man, right,
I know I had my struggles. I know you had
your struggles of being cut by teams, right, are not
trying to trying to get back and work yourself back

(06:56):
into the league and you knocking on the door and
nobody picked it up. Absolutely, But I know one thing mentally,
it didn't drive me to social media to be you know,
spiraling in a way. Right. You feel me And I
feel bad, Bro, I feel bad because my guy got
his money, right, Brandon, he got his money. I know

(07:19):
he was coming off of an injury and things like that, right,
And coming off of an injury. For anybody that don't know,
when you get hurt in the league, especially a serious
injury that puts you out, man, it fucks with your mind,
your spirit. It takes a toll on you, right, And
I know that San Francisco Forny Nineers was doing everything
they could to try to figure out how to get

(07:40):
this guy back healthy, get this guy back on the field.
It didn't work out. Whatever it is. But where I
see him at today, based on where I saw him
two years ago, it's not the same Brandon that I know.
It's not the same player. It's not the same guy,
not the same man that I respected for how he
played the game, how he showed up for his teammates, right,
And it's just you know again, man. You know some

(08:05):
some people say any publicity is good publicity, But I
just feel like as an organization, if I'm even looking
or considering bringing a guy like Brandon Augen and I
see the type of post that he been posting, yeah,
I don't really know if he really want to even
play football like that. I don't really know if I
want to bring someone like that into my organization, into

(08:26):
my right, right, exactly like you are. You're a veteran
in the league at this point. Definitely you're a leader
when you walk into a locker room, right, And I
don't know who's around him. Again, we had the same
type of talk a few weeks ago about the Rice
Kid and KC. Right. You know, but you know if
guys that's around him that watch our show, that watch

(08:47):
us talk you know, daily about football, about life, about faith, right,
I think even the mental side of things, like I
think they should hear this, Bro and and and hopefully
Bro go call this man, man, Go put your arm
around them. Teammates, former teammates, call this guy man and Brandon.
If you're watching the show, Bro, please please dm me Bro.

(09:09):
Reach out, reach out, Bro, reach out. We love is right.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's so funny that brought up like the highs and lows.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
So I have a video, right, I told you I went,
I went to Cincinnati, right, Yeah, came back in tremendous shape.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
And uh and you said not going on the social
media to you know, elaborate, get out our expressions, our anger,
our feelings.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
So this is a video from seven September second, twenty
twenty four.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I'm in the airport, right.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
And I told you the story that it's like man,
but it was looking for somebody that plays special teams.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Right, So this me in the airport.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yes, I can see I'm by the cry talking to
myself that life gonna get better. You know what I'm saying,
Like it's not giving up. You can see I look,
I look like a sad ass puppy, you know. So
what I do is man like type of videos. We're
not because I don't care who you are. You always
on your phone.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
It just reminds me that I at this time it
wasn't it just wasn't your time. It wasn't it wasn't
meant for you, right, you know. So what I can honestly,
what I can honestly say is that sometimes you have
to take those decompressed moments, yeah, and maybe record yourself. Yeah,
and when you go into pro and now you can

(10:30):
look back on it, I'm way better than what I was.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Right there, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
And I hope he has someone in his in his
in his corner, like you know, I see he's married,
you know, hopefully that his wife could talk to him
and like just to get him to calm down, like
you know, Brandon, like it's not you.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, I think I think also too. Man, you make
it great. You made a great point, right right, And
and again he is recarding himself he's just recarding himself,
saying the wrong and doing the wrong. Witness represent himself
the wrong way. And and I do think that the
you know, social media is a space for you know,
everyone to express themselves, and he should be able to
express himself. But I feel like, bro, if you really

(11:13):
want to get back into the league, you know that
the league is an evaluation business as well. They evaluating
everything that you do on the field and off the field.
When you do things on social media, they evaluate those
things too. They got somebody looking at your social media.
They got somebody, yeh, bro, they got somebody looking at
your social social media for sure. So I just feel like,

(11:33):
if if that's the case, represent yourself in the right way,
present your family in the right way, protect your legacy,
protect your brand. Right again, at the end of the day,
it's about what you can do in the field, Don't
get me wrong. But if you can't get to the field,
then then then who's gonna who's gonna be Who's gonna tell.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Nobody nobody's not gonna want you, who is not gonna
want you?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
All right? Right now?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
If you you a GM, right where do you see
his trade value? Are you someone you Jarvis Lands is
a GM for another team. Would you want to pick
him up doing the things he's doing right now? The recordings,
the tickets, st stadium.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I wouldn't touch him. I wouldn't touch him, and it
probably will take and I would say this, and there's
no disrespect to the to the athlete. I want the athlete.
I want the player, right, But this personality that he's showing,
how he's showing up, you know, for for fans that
love him, how he showed up for his family himself,
I wouldn't touch him as a as a general manager,
as an owner, as a team right. But there may

(12:35):
be a coach out there that he has a relationship with.
We see this time and time again, right, who is
able to not control him a little bit but have
a better understanding the relationship with that can bring him
in and hopefully he can get back to playing the
best type of football, the best football that he could play,
you know here in the future. But without that, Bro,
I don't see until a change of behavior is evident,

(12:59):
especially through social media. However, he becomes visible to the
public right using these platforms. If if that doesn't change, Bro,
I don't think he ever gets back in the league.
I'm just gonna be personally honest with you. These these
new kids are way too good. They're too fast, you
know what I mean. Like, you know, they're not injured,
they're coming with with with no baggage. You know, we

(13:21):
don't have to do no no media clean up. It's
like all of those things where I just feel like, man,
the odds are already against us black Man. Yeah, like,
don't don't don't keep stacking the deck, Bro, don't don't
keep stacking the deck, you know. So I'm I wish

(13:42):
that again. I keep on saying it because you know,
they say, Bro, you are who you who you you know,
your first your five closest friends, bro, your too closest friends,
however many friends you got, you are who who you
hang around? Bro. So I just hope that Bro, if
you know, there's people around him that's trying to get
to him. Pray man, That's been a part of my prayer, BRO,

(14:02):
that that those people, those words that they're telling him
that are positive about him and who he really is,
that he really that those things, that those things get
through to him, Bro, that he I've seen he had
on commanders. I think that's where he want to go.
Him and jad and Danians have. I think they have
like some a relationship. They were together at Arizona State

(14:26):
or Arizona the Sun Devils, right, so they played together
for like a year or so before the Jaden Daniels
came down to bad Ruge and and did his thing right.
So I think he's trying to reunite there. And again
that's a relationship that you have at the quarterback. Yeah,
but you know you want your quarterback sticking the neck
out for you, bro, and you're not doing the right
thing too, So it's it may be out of the

(14:48):
quarterback hands at that point to try to even get
you a workout, you know, like are you in shape
right now? You know that? I feel like that's the
message you're supposed to be putting on social media. That's
the message I was putting on social media when I
wasn't in the league. You were putting on social media.
You still do it to this day, You're still training, right, Like,
I think that that's the narrative that he needs to

(15:10):
be pushing out opposed to answering fans are answering? Haters
are are? You know? The three people that have broke through,
you know, to his you know, uh spirit or whatever
it is. Bro, I just think that man, forget them,
forget them, Bro, look inward, get your mental, get your

(15:30):
mental back and train. We want to see we want
to see you training. I want to see you running routes.
All these videos, I haven't seen a run out one route. Fact,
I want to see you running route. Let's let's get
let's run a route, show me, show me you on
the training table, because I because I hate seeing it, dog,

(15:56):
I hate really I hate seeing talcented athletes lose their.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Way here all the time. About That's probably one of
your best jokes, Nigga. That was in a joke. I'm saying,
like I understand the video thing he got. He been
posted a lot of videos, but that's crazy because not
one to have been about a fucking workout. That's not funny, bro.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
But still like I feel you, but like I just
feel like, I feel like I feel like you got
so much to offer, kid, Like you know, don't waste
it using social media. If anything, go ghosts true, go ghosts.
Look what O did? Oh wayn ghosts? Bro oh wayn

(16:42):
ghosts and bounce back came through.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Get your ass out. Go all right, get out, get out.
Like I told y'all, don't come in here. God damn, bro,
I'm telling you this ship is a lot.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Oh they said, you know, I want, I want. I
hope and pray that Brandon Ayuk sees this and he
has an opportunity to look himself in the mirror. Yeah,
understand that life is not fair. Things happened, but control.

(17:18):
But if you control what you can control, trusting God,
everything gonna work out in the end. Brother, That's all.
That's all I all. I hope and pray that he
gets from hearing us speak. If he does hear us speak,
This ain't no shade to you, This ain't no hate
to you, bro. We really want to see you get
back in the league. There was a time when I
was about to San Francisco forty nine ers and they

(17:39):
had a couple guys, They had Marquis Good good when
they had the Jennings kid and and a couple other people.
And I still thought I was like, man, but who
know me? Loving, I was like he and nasty, the nicest.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
One, and I really and I really and he had
it here that he deserved and he should have got
paid a little bit sooner.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
But but love, but you got your paper, you feel me,
so you know what I mean? You got what you want.
And if that's all you wanted, didn't walk away from
the game, then Bro, Yeah, if that's all you wanted
to walk away from the game, listen, turn our prayers
need us. I did. I wrote you already, I sent
you a DM. You know what I'm saying. You ever

(18:20):
need someone just to talk to and.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
To be real with you and to keep it real
with you or let you know if you're right or wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Because this team's out there that need receivers, Bro, Definitely
this this team. I know a team, A bunch of
teams knee receivers need guys that's veterans that can go
and help their room. But they got those guys got
to be leaders. Those guys can't be progress stoppers, you
know what I mean. Like if I got my GM
hat on it, I can't take a chance on a

(18:50):
guy like this. The risk is higher than the reward.
And and I hope that he and I hope that
he understands that. I hope that his agent can can
get through to him. I really do, Bro, I'm passionate
about it man, because I feel like, you know, just
how you had that airport story. It was crazy, Leonard.
I had a very similar airport story after I went

(19:12):
work out for the Jets. Thought I was about to
get signed by the Jets, and you know, they pulled
me to the side say they're gonna say that. You know,
I essentially made the team whatever it is. Then somebody
retired the same day. I think it was Tariko, and
he retired the same day, so they needed a returner,
and I'm like, shit, I'll return whatever it is. But
regardless of the fact, they went a different way. I

(19:34):
went from being on the team about to celebrate to
not being on the team. And when when I got
to the airport, Bro, I remember being at the airport
my mom just similar to you, and looking up to heaven,
Bro and like angry with God, angry with God. I'm like, Bro,

(19:56):
I've been working, like like working. I just work out it.
I worked out. I know I was the best receiver
here and I still ain't and I had BRO and
that really would set me on my journey. But just
imagine if I don't went to Instagram with it. Imagine
if I don't went to.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Social I guarantee you it won't be no motherfucking for
in South right now.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I mean you know what I'm saying, Like it's you know,
like like I say, Bro is one of the in
an NFL. Or do that to you, Bro? Yeah, any
business life would do that to you. Right.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
But what I always tell people and people, and it's
for the football guys who understand football, This football league
is built on taking your confidence. And when I say that,
it's like when you're going through reps and practice and
you can't catch you can't catch that one that one slant,
that one route, and it's like damn if it does
get called on Sunday, I might not catch this motherfuckers,

(20:53):
I ain't catch it the whole week. So when I
always tell people this, brother, this game is built to
break your confidence, don't let it in no shape or
way or farm.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Don't let it. I'm the type of person, right I
might be real.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I might drop the drop a bomb and practice the
two times I really needed to catch it, But I'm
the type of guy when Sunday, when the lights on,
Oh I'm catching this bitch.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I don't care what it takes. I got to bite
the ball, glue in my head, I'm gonna say, yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna find a way.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
And it's not just for NFL guy. This for guys
in high school. Even if you're not getting that, that
the them scouts looking at you, those letters from them
D one colleges, even if it's D two, Bro, you
are going to college for free. Still right, And now
you have the nil you got Juko, you can work
your way up to get D one. Yeah, sec school,

(21:51):
big ten, big twelve, whatever, whatever you that you.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Won't do, don't let that one offer that you don't
get knock down your whole confidence, Bro percent one thing,
one thing, one thing that transcends sports, one thing that
transcends sports. And and and you know, and which makes
it so beautiful is that Bro, sports is not just
a physical game. Sports is a mental game as well.

(22:18):
And if your mind is not right, and that and
that comes with a with a multitude of different different
mental perspective and mental you know, situations and circumstances. But
if your mind is not right, if you don't have
good people in your corner, that ship can break you.
And I'm afraid that that's happening to our gud brandon
o youth right now, and I hope that it doesn't,

(22:40):
you know, I hope that it doesn't. Right. We almost
saw a similar case like that in Philadelphia where I
got a J. Brown right where my man ain't gotta
read books on the sideline. Just then that was some
new ship. Hey, But listen, just to keep his mental
into the into the you know, so I can go
back out here, reset and go do what I gotta do,

(23:02):
because they already narrative wise, in Philadelphia, AJ Brown, they
already trying to create the divers diversity the narrative, you
know what I mean, Like, Oh, it's him and the
coach and he's not getting a ball, he's not getting
enough targets. Man, I'm happy to see that he out
of there. I'm happy to see that he controlled what
he could control while he was there, and I'm happy

(23:24):
to see that he went to a different organization that's
gonna use him the right way.

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You're putting more stress on mister Balkley.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Right, Jaela Hurts and Jayla Hurris, you'.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Putting stress on yourself. Who was the bigger who won
in this trade?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
The Patriots? All day. I feel like the Patriots won
because you get your number one. You lose Stefon Diggs,
who generated one thousand yards for you last year. You
went into the Super Bowl, you're pretty much your whole
team is intact. Now you just put a you know,
another number one in the space of a number one leaving.
You just added another number one. I feel like they
won this trade. Yeah again the Philadelphia Eagles. Mikayle lem

(26:28):
And I love him. Davonte Spent I love him, but
you know, now he by himself again. Now he by
himself again again. Look, they have a great offense. You know,
Jaeling Hurts can can super Bowl MVP. He won a
Super Bowl? Right, can he do it again? I would
not say he on the level of my homes. I

(26:48):
would not say, you know, he on that type of level.
But at the same time, it's there's still questions out there,
like it's this guy really the guy. Do you feel
like that, I mean, do you feel like he's the
guy or like, because I feel like it's still it's
still uncertain out there. Yeah, I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
It's still up in the air, right, It's still up
in the air with him, because, as you know, to
be a top tier quarterback, you have to be consistent.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
He's not consistent enough. Whether it's his strolls, you.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Know, whether it's him reading certain certain coverages right, or
his decision making. I mean, let's be real, right, and
I'm going back on A J. Brown, right, and and
I'm just rethinking the whole last season, damn right, I
feel like A J.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Brown had a reason to be upset.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Hy right, because people just think about the game itself. Okay,
we're gonna do this. Let's let's start off. If we
lost that Sunday, right, you got to come in Monday.
I don't I don't care what it is. Yep, we
have to come in Monday. We have a fun study.
You know you didn't get the ball. You know you
didn't get the ball, but you got me watching this shit.

(28:03):
The three No, let's let's be real.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
The three routes, the three catches, the three possessions I've had, right,
and I gotta watch.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Everybody else go through the motion. Get the ball right.
Number two. People gotta understand this. There's GPS's right in
the back of our jerseys every practice.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
So if I'm if I'm a running back, I'm a
running back. Running backs, we probably around like six thousand
yards right per practice?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (28:29):
You play with our receiver. I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Sometimes Chris Godwin and Mike Evans ran twelve to ten
thousand yards per practice.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
And as a fan, I want you to understand that
adds up on your career, on your body. Yes, we
got cold tub, hot tub, right, but that that does
not take away the fact you have me out here
perfecting my craft at a high level. And when it
comes to I got this biggest light on it. When
it comes to show time, when the life is on
me and you don't wanta give me the ball.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Oh yeah, I got a problem, got a problem. I'm
your number one, y'all paying me sixty something million dollars
to be out here, and I earned it. I think
I think A. J. Brown says something like, you know,
thank you the Philadelphia Eagles. I was the best Eagle
to ever play a receiver in Philadelphia. You know, I
think he also put saying some statements about, like, you know,

(29:27):
his frustration with sometimes in the offense is you know,
not getting those tight window throws right, not getting the
opportunities that he felt like he should be getting. Do
you feel like that's more of a quarterback issue, a
trust issue, or do you feel like that's an offer back?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Listen, that is a quarterback issue, one hundred percent, because
guess what, TV twelve don't care who on the Michael.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
He's drawing this bitch, right, you could be double team, right,
double team you go. You're playing man in the corner
and a quarterback and the linebacker is back, is backing
the courage he gonna throw to the spotal owner, the
Michael ketcherck hey a J Brown, a big body, Mike
Evans a big body. Yeah it's basketball. We gonna rebound
this bitch and body you and catch you play robber

(30:10):
restive if you know how it is, Yeah, no I do.
And as I was waiting for your finish, so I
can tell you personally how I feel. If it's one
on one, I need that rock. I'm not even gonna
I'm not I'm not even gonna sugarcoat it. I think personally,
I think personally, if you're paying me as a number
one receiver, you put me in positions to make plays

(30:32):
for the offense, and it's one on one if and
you call it my number touches, yeah, I gotta I
gotta get the I gotta get the rock. We were
talking about, give me the touches. I gotta get the rock.
And it's frustrated, and it's frustrating, right, but then also
listen to to to jail. It hurts. Maybe you know

(30:53):
defense in a way, right, you have Davante Smith on
one side, you got say Kron Barkley behind you. You
got a J. Brown on the other side, right to
his defense. If it's one on one, I should go
wherever I want to go with the ball. I get that.
I personally get that.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
I play with Odell Beckham. I play with David Njoku,
who was a mismatched nightmare for almost any linebacker, defensive end. Safety,
Nick Chubb well, Nick Chubb didn't catch the ball that
much at the backfield, but we but I played with
Duke Johnson. I played with Duke Johnson. Duke Johnson come
out the backfield, catch the rock. Right, I played with

(31:31):
Kenyan Drake. Guys that guys that are you want to
get them in matchup opportunities. Right, So to Jilla's defense,
I could see that. But also there's no way as
an offensive coordinator, or as an offense or as a quarterback,
I'm not trying to get him the ball. There's no way.
Now I should not be. I should not never. I
should never leave the game with two targets, three targets.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Question for you right when you was in Cleveland, Right,
and I know some games you didn't get the ball all, well,
get an opportunity to get the ball as much as you.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
We better have one. We better had one. Listen. Look,
I'm a big team guy. I'm big team litl me
if we winning. If we winning, you know what by
all means have it your way. But if we losing.

(32:24):
And when I say losing, I mean multiple, not just one.
You know, maybe after the second one, I'm not gonna
say multiple the second one. And I then left the
game with one target, two target. Oh, it's a problem.
It's not a problem. It's not a problem. I just
want to now, I want to know what's going on.
It's not doing something in practice? Yeah, am I not

(32:45):
earning the trust to get reps? Am I not good
enough for you to put the ball in my hand?
And third down and six, third and five? Situational football?
Like now I'm questioning myself. But I'm training and I'm
preparing because and I know I'm ready, But then the
opportunity never come. I just want to have a conversation, now, well,

(33:06):
what the baby it is?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
The opportunity have it came, but you're just not given
You're just not given the opportunity to show it up
the showcase it. But once again, you're doing it in practice. Yeah,
but why not when the big light is on me?
Why am Why am I not getting the rock? Guess
what what I'm gonna say this. There's something BA always
go by. Five star player is gonna make five star.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Players all the time. Big time players make big time plays,
big time games. That's a it's a real stat. It's
a real quote, real stat, real quote. So at the
end of the day, who who's fart of this trade?
Is this jalous jealous jealous fault or like you? I
feel like I feel like the Eagles feel like they won, right,

(33:52):
they drafted a first round draft pick, receiver Mikyle Lemon.
I think it's gonna be a tremendous player. It's a young, yes,
but we young players come in and dominate the game.
Look at Pook and the Cool look at you know myself, Odell.
You know all of the young receivers that came into
the game right early on and dominated, and and and
and made a name for themself. Devonte Smith, he's there,

(34:13):
Dallas Goddter is still intact. In their offense, they always
had a good offense, right, but even even when the
influx of coaches, I want to say, from twenty twenty
to now, they've almost had a different coach almost every
year or every other year, which makes it hard as
an offense to be lethal. Right. But if that is

(34:36):
the case, then the balls should always just go to
your best players the ball and again maybe again. You
know nowadays these coaches are smarter than football, and you know,
all of that stuff ties in. And I hope that
the Patriots, the New England Patriots, despite everything that they've
they've went through this offseason, right and publicly, I hope

(35:00):
that they get it right. I think I think.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Another question for you who's better. Is a J in
a better situation with Drake.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
May Absolutely, because if he's gonna givehim that rock, he
gonna give him that rock. And also, and also this
is a chance for A J. Brown to do what
we know he did his first year when he went
to the Philadelphia Earls his last year leaving the Tennessee Titans,
two of his best seasons. I can't wait. I hope,

(35:32):
I hope when he scored this year and he put
up great numbers. I hope he's standing in the end zone.
And are you not entertained? Arms wide open, like, show
us who you are, bro, show us who you are.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
A J.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Brown to me is not at all. He's not a talker,
show us who you are in I want, I want
show the world who you are. And I want first
row seats. And I hope and pray and I hope
and pray he get a chance to do it against
the Philadelphia Eagles. Hope and pray he get a chance

(36:06):
to do it at the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
All right, so can you elaborate this for me?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Right?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Maybe A Yan Brown didn't get as much targets, right,
because you do have take Kwon Barkley in the.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Backfield understood, which is even better. Yeah, bro Lyonard, you
notice you notice you had your run I had my
running receiver. You had your runner running back. When when
you have good skill position guys and you have a

(36:40):
running back that you have to stack the box off
as a receiver, look at your chops, man, damns, go,
let's go. I'm ready to go. Every week I'm thinking, Okay,
this is my two fifty game. Yeah, this is my
one twenty game, it's my one seventy game. This is
my three times that my three game.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
People not understanding, right, if you have a high quality
running back, we have six or seven guys in the
box right, that's leaving the nickel sound is who is
over the slide. We have the number one who's probably
gonna be one on one on. You have the number
two in the opposite that are gonna be one on one.
You got a safety.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
And all you gotta do is look him off. Perfect,
We're over here, bro that it's football one O one.
It's football one O one. I've watched Philadelphia games again,
I watched Philadelphia games, and I'll see Aj Brown lead
a game with seven targets and then I'll go back
and watch the game, and a lot of those targets

(37:41):
that he was getting that he was getting credited for
what overthrows where scrambles that he threw out a bounds right, coverage, coverage,
coverage throws, things like that, And it's like the fans
arguing with AJ Brown are arguing about A J. Brown
complaining or whatever it is, when in reality, I have

(38:01):
one good look true in sixty minutes and I'm the
number one on the team. I don't think that's a
problem for him. In New England, we saw with Stephan
days Stephands came off for knee injury and wait.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
For a rack.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Healthy AJ Brown, A happy AJ Brown. I saw my
guy with the number one jersey on. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
what with a big smile. He needed some fresh air man,
So I'm happy that he got. You know, I'm happy
that he over there with the Patriots. Obviously, the Patriots
went to the AFC Championship last year, winning against Denver,

(38:39):
then went to the Super Bowl and lost. You out
of A J. Brown to that team, you know, it
might be a different story. I'm just saying, but he
there now.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, you know, you know I'm gonna look out. I'm
looking out for the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
A J. Brown. Right, yeah, so we have we have
some another another important topic, right, Aaron Donald? Aaron Donald, Right, Yeah,
I'm hearing good things, man.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
He says he's more than likely Aaron comes out of
retirement to play with Myles.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Right, and if he does, all your boy I said
it already. You know how I feel.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Listen, listen, I'm gonna tell you see Javis didn't never
have to block this motherfucker. Thank god, I had to
block him. Right, So y'all know he lived waights every
day on on, on Instagram and whatever chalk he used
he'd be using. Yeah, he has to be putting that
ship on the game. Right the get how you getting

(39:43):
double team?

Speaker 4 (39:44):
You know?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
You know he's a shock motherfucker too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you're getting double team.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
We're running duo. For those who don't know, dual. Dual
is the inside run running scheme. Right, and if I'm
the running back, I'm reading off the mic, the mic
line back, the mic linebacker go left, I go right,
if you go right, I go left right, So I
can I can remember they double team him. You know,
the broh the center and God is double team in

(40:13):
to the back of they trying to block his little
shot ass. You see his hand in between them, just
this popping.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Out and he grabs me.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
And he it's like.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
The man got monkey strength. Bro. I'm like, damn you
double team and me and you're getting double team and
you still make this tackle. Ye'ah, y'all.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
He different general, I can I can't remember we played
him in twenty twenty two. I'm like, no, what fuck that?
Wherever it takes we it's like like second and ten,
win the red zone?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
My My guy was the nigga sound right. I'm like, listen,
if he don't come Aaron Donald, watch yourself, you're going
chip ain't no chip, I told I told our god.
I said, listen, I'm gonna give your uh. I think
it's I think it's an o maha sign. I have
to say, oh my, oh my, just get out the way.

(41:12):
This got this got the way. I'm coming full speed.
I swear you can see this play full speed. I
hate this boom.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I said, yeah, you felt that ship, uh like, but
it's like he not phase or nothing though. No. No,
So I'm like after the game, I said, I said,
be real like you felt that ship, Like did you
feel that ship? Yeah? Like she was all right. I
gave this man everything, like like, come on, bro, you

(41:41):
two thirty, you two forty at the time, and you
can't fit Like what the hey, hey bro, that if that,
if that man decides to unretire, I feel bad for
I feel bad for a lot of people, especially young
cats who just not coming in this league and who's
doing have.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
An opportunity to win this what is it? He's a
seven time what is he?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Seven time? Eight time All Pro? All Pro first Team
a deod luck, good luck he comes back. They don't
have two defensive Player of the years a Rookie of
the Year. They're gonna have an offensive player of the year,
all on the same brother. I'm telling you, you know,
we could. I know we were supposed to talk about

(42:25):
Arizona Cardinals at some point, but I don't think we
should be talking about nobody else in that division.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah yeah, I guess what Mac mac willis is my brother,
I love you right right. You gotta you have to
have some type of structure the backbone of the defense.
But let's be real, nobody wouldn't give damn y'all red
Robin no no, they all gotta go see them, folks.
No boys, pressure, you gotta see them folks. Listen, I'm

(42:53):
looking at this list right. Comparisons. Now, we know a
comparison with Miles Garrett and Big Donald on the same
team in twenty nineteen and twenty one, they had Chris Jones.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
And Frank Clark. To me, Frank Clark is very underrated. Yeah,
very he had a run. Very, he had a run.
Frank Clark had a run.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
To me, he should he should still be playing. But
you know, things happened. But underrated player. We all know
Big Chris Jones. I had. I had an opportunity to
play against Chris Jones and when he was at Missippi States, big, big,
lazy motherfucker. But when he gets to going, yeah that boy,
yeah you can't stop him. Yeah, he can't stop him. Right,
He've been one of the best dettackles in the league
for a long time. So we're gonna do late eighties

(43:31):
and to nineties for the Define Eagles. The man himself,
mister Reggie White animal animal Darron Brown. Another dog with
the Eagles right early two thousands, the white Fremie dog

(43:53):
Corey with is Cory Simon and Robert Mathis. Robert Mathis
was cold too.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, I still think those guys at the time were
ahead of their time as a duo's. But an Aaron
Dono and a Miles Garrett together, you're looking at a
Warren Sap and a Reggie White at the same time.

(44:22):
You're I mean, I don't, I can't. I don't feel
like I should even say that. I would just say
I feel like I should just say you're looking at
an Aaron Dono and a Miles Garrett, you know, you know,
at the same time, because I don't think that the
game would ever see the type of tenacity. Just nasty,
physical juggernaut. Paul's no hormo, just just just physical specimens

(44:48):
of a men of men showed them. Get them off
the bus. They don't even get them off the bus first,
you know how they used to say, you know, get.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
They'll be the first ones coming off the intimidation. Oh
like what the ship was on little giants we had.
They don't need none of that.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
They're trying to knock some phone out, somebody, they're trying
to knock it out. They don't need none of that.
Oh my god, I'm telling you honestly, bro I have
So what's crazy is my Aaron Donald's story. And he
probably won't remember this, but when he see the play,
if you see this, he or remember it. I remember
we were in Miami. We got evacuated from Miami. I

(45:33):
was playing here in Miami. We got evacuated to cars
bat San Diego and at the time Saint Louis. There
was this last year in Saint Louis. I believe it
was there last year in Saint Louis, and we had
a home game in Miami, but it got postponed and
changed to the Coliseum in Las Vegas. Right, so we

(45:56):
played San Diego Chargers at the at the stadium in
San Diego. Then we drove up to La played in
the coliseum against the Rams. I remember catching like a
stick route and Alec over Ogletree. I don't know if
you remember alec Overtree or now. He played at Georgia,
I believe, but he was the linebacker for the Rams
at the time, and I remember like catching a stick route,

(46:18):
turning put my shoulder into his chest. Boom. We both
raised up. You know, I'm young and strong at the time,
so I'm just I'm still fighting for yards. Next thing,
you know, I see big ninety nine coming out the
corner of my eye, and I'm like shit, So I
kind of like try to like duck down a little bit,
just in case he tried to boom me. But he
ended up like trying to wrap me up. And when

(46:40):
he wrapped me up, my old lineman came and pushed
me into the end zone still from like eight nine
yards away. So you know, I might be you know, Aredonna,
I might have a little respect. You know what I'm
saying in his heart? You know what I'm saying, because
he couldn't take a little little juice down. You feel me.
He couldn't do it. He couldn't do it, you know
what I mean. That's my that's my juice moment for

(47:01):
Aaron Donalm.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Bro listen, he teams out there. If this, if this
young old man decided because he's only thirty five.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah he young, he's still young. How do you take
care of that man?

Speaker 3 (47:12):
If that man decides to come our retirement and play
on a vat minimum, right, a vat minimum and only
coming on second and.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Third down, Oh my love, Yeah no, it's gonna be crazy.
I saw I saw someone say I saw someone say
that if he probably won't come to training camp, he
probably won't come the first few weeks of the season,
maybe even the first few months of the season. But
if they have a chance to go to the playoffs,
why not that he's going to come back out of
retirement and do his thing. Sources say that he'll come

(47:44):
out of retirement and in the in likely cases of
them winning and you know, all roles leading to so
far through so far, which which would be crazy because
the last one he won was in so far, So
it's only fitting that he come out of retirement off
the couch and get another one. And who knows, God
might win the MVP off the couch. So in national news,

(48:07):
let me get this right. Brandon source Bee, Texas Tech
quarterback doing his during his time in Texas Tech, acknowledge
that he made thousands of dollars off bets at least
ninety thousand dollars on pro sports and college sports that
included some bets on his own team when he was

(48:29):
a freshman at Indiana. He won a temporary injunction while
his court case is on trial, to play during the
upcoming NCAA season. I'm mad about this because Bro, if
I could have betted on all the games that I
was playing in at LSU, doll, you know how much

(48:49):
I wouldn't even have to go to the league. I
wouldn't even have to go to the league. Bro was
scoring forty old people by that and at that time
I was a freshman. So you know, I can say.
You know, listen, Jarvin Land was getting a target zero.

(49:10):
You know I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the
under on that. Take the under on that. Getting the tackle,
I'm gonna take the over on that because i know
I'm gonna go get me one. Listen, I can honestly
say this, Bro, do you think it's right? Do you like? Like?
What do you like?

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Look?

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Tell me, tell me what you think.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
I'm gonna say this. Nils has has opened the doors
up for a lot of madness. We're gonna start off
with them right, And I'm gonna say this. They got
people around the world who bets on collegiate collegiate guys.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
But I'm talking about as an athlete like you on
the team, as a as an athlete. If I'm on
the team and I had the opportunity to put if
I was a l s U. They say, Leonard, Oh
you're gonna get over one hundred and fifty yards. Yeah,
that's that's that's top real. Let's talk real, let's talk real. Hey,

(50:02):
it is what it is. Hey. Let me let you
know this. You're going there.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
What I might put ten thousand dollars on myself and
whatever that tenth, that ten might give me two fifty
or whatever. Ye pick it over one hundred fifty yards. Yeah,
you got you gotta think about it. You're talking to
a guy who averaged two hundred and ten yards per game.
Oh my god, that's crazy. Anyway, I'm gonna we were
about to eat. Yeah, were about to eat every week.

(50:29):
Yeah No, I'm not betting on my team to lose. No,
I'm betting on us to win.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah yeah, no, I feel you. I feel you. I
mean I guess they say that he was betting on
his team to lose. Nah nah see see nah we
uh so let me ask you this. So let me
ask you this, sir, if if you had to, if
you was in college, and you know, we get the
first fifteen plays right right past run whatever it is, right.

(50:57):
You know, they got all these props out there, these parlaids,
these all these things out there. Yeah, you get the
first fifteen plays, and you know what's up now that
it's open to to to betting, sports, betting, college, NFL,
you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna throw something.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Yeah, Yeah, tell the hood, Tell the whole hood. Yeah,
we better run in the first place. Huh, first place
you're running.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I'm listening. I'm not telling y'all. I'm not giving them. No,
I'm not telling them, like, what's the bro that's inside
trading bro? People go to jail for that ship.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Well fuck it, we're going to jail the whole hood.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
We all gonna go.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
If you listen, if you're telling me they had they
had a paul A bet right to say that, Leonard, Leonard,
give us the first play, y'all gonna run out past
and you could put a thousand dollars down and win
fifty grand or something like that.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
It's you crazy percent were in college. You got the
whole hood in there.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
All right, my god, let me start this group message.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
All right, right, I mean this message winning circle that
that could be the name of every week. I'm gonna say,
p or R you know what that means, passed, bron,
I'm just gonna talking code P week two are Yeah,
and we're making fifty I need ten thousand dollars. You

(52:21):
need ten off of it? Yeah, ten off the fifty,
off the fifty. That's crazy. Am I being greedy? Is
that too much?

Speaker 3 (52:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I mean it's not want more. I don't want more.
That's I think that's that's that's even. That's fair. That's
fair enough to say you ain't putting no money in, right,
you know, and and I know what I'm risking. All right, Well,
I think he got suspended for two games. If I'm
not mistaken, he got suspended for two games, which is
nothing right because if I made, if I if I'm

(52:52):
making enough best and I hit for five hundred thousand,
and you suspend for two games, I'm just gonna listen
I do it again? No no, no, oh no, I can't.
I can't do it like that's like listen, listen.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
It's different though, because it's your career, right, It's not
like this is not like in a relationship with your
woman when you could you know, obviously she's gonna keep
accepting you to come back after you.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Cheat, cheat, cheat, cheat cheap, but nah, this is a
different ball game. You better stop all that.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
What uh No, I'm speaking of I'm not saying you,
I'm saying in general, like listen, chat chat, we were
always young men young women that because the woman that
watches too. If you keep cheating on your girl, on
your man, right, there's consequences, but you're gonna get accepted back.
This consequence is dealing with this sports. Your ass might

(53:45):
not make it to the big lead and it's it's over.
It's over with with your ass.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Hey, hey, I can't you say like my like my guy,
like my guys Brandon U Brendan Brandan's source be saved.
I guess would never know. I guess we would never know. Listen,
listen our show. Obviously guys are sponsored by hard Rock Bets.
This segment Lenny's locks Leonard, how many wins will Texas

(54:16):
Tech Red Raiders win this year? Over? Uh and under?
His ten and a half wins over ten and a half. Listen.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
I understand he's a gambling he's a gambling gambit, but
he's a dog. We not act like he no dog,
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, his his hand,
he get itchy on the dice team win all this ship.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
If he says a dog, he said, money dog, money
on the line, put me in coach. You money on
the line, put me in coach.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
So I got him, I got him over, I got
him over for she got.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Over ten and a half. So they making it. So
they're making the college playoffs this year.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Bro, you heard the nil guy said that all you got,
he's gonna buy himself a championship.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
You know what, you know what think about gambling?

Speaker 3 (54:56):
That ship might have started with him. You're talking about
buying champions hips over in Texas Tech, all right, he
said it.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
He said it. Hey, listen, we say you know you
all who you hang around. If you can't it, can't
beat him? Good join them? Join them? Hey, he looked
at hey, Brendan, pull you up a chair, son, coach,
sit at the winner circle. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
That's wrong with that. Get your money, man, Hey, it's.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Afford this all guys. Man, We appreciate y'all. Thank y'all
for tuning them.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
He team US A man feet for World Cup is
here man Team USA? So you got for the USA? Man?
My God named in it, messy in it? You know
what I'm saying, mess. They got some dogs in there,
But you know I'm gonna represent represent the red right
and blue man. Let's do it. Yeah, I say yes, sir,
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