NFL Hall of Famer and former Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Michael Irvin joins former NFL stars Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette for a raw, unfiltered conversation on how Ohio State's fans fueled the infamous "Belt to Ass" meme. Irvin reacts to Landry LYING to him about pulling his hamstring at the NFL Combine while Michael had backed him as one of the TOUGHEST wide receivers he has ever seen. Irvin also shares LEGENDARY stories of WHY he FEARED playing against one of the HARDEST hitters in NFL history, the legendary safety Ronnie Lott and the Hall of Famer also provides advice to rising star Puka Nacua about navigating the pressures of professional football. Fournette and Landry also react to former Tennessee Titans star Chris Johnson's shocking ALS announcement, LeBron leaving the Los Angeles Lakers, and reflect on O.J. Simpson being removed from the Buffalo Bills Ring of Honor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What sham? What shall we back again? You know what
I'm saying, Sirsky, I'm excited for this guest today. A legend,
a legend. Now listen, what what's what's what's what's what's past?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
A legend, beyond legend, beyond the legend.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Listen, man, we have mister incredible Michael Irving.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You're lucky. I got my belt. I'll put my belt
out right now.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Listen, listen, So so I understand. Listen, I got to
hop straight into let's talk about the belt. What in
your mind, your right mind made you put that out?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Talk to me?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Man? You know, hey, listen, you know nowadays with everything,
the first thing, this thing, how this popped off right
because they were talking so much noise? Ain't it was
Florida State because I got there a day early, and
when he had something to eat.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean, they were cracking, man, just everywhere. We gonna
do this, Michael, We gonna do this.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I said, you know what, I'm trying to be sensible,
you know, but but we about to bang, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Answer. We go after that game, after.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That game, you know, dude, after that game, and that
was a good game, and we had one. Oh, I
was gonna let them know. Plenty of times I have
been down to that stadium. You know, hey, I raised
that shirt up. I was saying, all let noise, y'all
been talking all day yesterday, all dated morning, and y'all
(01:49):
win and got y'all ass whooped like that. Dude, it's
time for I went and start putting that belt on.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Him, cooling on the cool I would.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Put you know while when I was doing it, you
taking the comments them dudes are right, you know, he
not got his ass whooped. He looking the way he's
swinging somebody that was one of them personals.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's them Florida.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Whoopings that that you used to be able to get, man,
But I can't imagine. I can't believe how that thing
just took wild fight. That's all I get kids today,
seven eight eight year old kids. They never watched me
play one down. You you bet a man? You know?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
So yeah, man, that went crazy? Man, can you.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Talk about like how the times has changed so much
that like going viral for for something like that is
like and being known for something like that now outside
of your playing career, like it's a spectacular thing.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Social media and and and and.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know, guys like yourself, like stepping up and doing
things like that, support your team, coming up with different
things like that, like you talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Right and due.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
This is appropos for us guys like us, you know,
like you, Leonard, you and Jars. And I know when
I say that, I mean, I know what I'm saying.
You know, I know, kind of dude, we ain't gonna
take no look, so so we need places where we
can be us really, And.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's what I love about the platforms.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I've been doing TV a long time and and
you know, TV restricts you and you only get a
chance really to talk at people to people, but you
don't really get a chance to speak with people. Real
brow comes from us talking with one another. You share
your story. I'm sharing mind. That's why when the Bible says,
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you know, confess one ye to the other, pray one
dye for the other. In this we shall find healing.
So we're supposed to be talking and telling our stories.
And and and then since we since us.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
All three of us, all three of us, extra.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Ton of negroes, you know what I'm saying, and we
need to explain our story sometimes because they'll take.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
It a run another way.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So wait a minute, so we get an opportunity to
do that.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Now, you see what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Before they would make you the worst jokers in the
world just because you don't step in fis like they
want you to. But this gives us an opportunity to
show who we really are and that I appreciate it.
And let me tell you about you two months because
I love both of you, mugs. I always measure a man.
I always say that, measure a man in distance travel
(04:39):
and tell me about where you are. Let me see
where you started, and let me see where you're Tell
me about where you started, let me see where you are.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I measure your quarterly.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I mean, I measure a fight in a man and
YouTube bugs, I got a your your your hey boy,
that's a fighter, y'all.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Boy, that's a real fight. I mean too.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You know I watched Leonard Man, Leonard, I watch you
do some things I ain't think any man.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Should be doing that day. You know what I'm saying.
You can run that dude over like that. You gotta right.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Right their polls, your wheel dog and and jay jobs.
I came to jogs dog, I was doing you know
the NFL network, and I'm doing the broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We're out there at.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Come By Comeba and this joker running and you know,
running and and and and he kind of tweeked his
hammy and everybody was trying to tell him, don't go,
don't go that we need him to calm down, tell
him don't go.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
We don't want to mess him up.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And they want and they said, you, Mike cur you play,
he'll listen to you go. Tell him to calm down.
Have my I walk with my jolly butter over there. Yeah,
I want to tell Jarvis relaxed, man, you got it.
Job looked at me like, uh, I'm good. I gotta
show the man. I don't want to hear that. I
turned around, went back to me. I want to drift here.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's the dude I want. I want to hear none
of that I want. I told him. Then I said,
I draft that, dude. I want the dude. They ain't dude,
I ain't listening to you, dude.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
This is my chance to show everybody, and they gonna
know before I leave here today. Before I left there,
I knew. I said, boy, if I'm anybody, I'm driving
jobs langdon because that that that's how to fight you
onto your locker room.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Hey, you think if I went to the Cowboys, we'll
have a champion, another championship right now?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Please please, that wouldn't been I'm telling you, I've been
right there with you.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'd been right, you know. But hey, carry you what
you need. Tell you you didn't see that saint to
be t all the sainty bitter. Be careful.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I've been talking with you the whole way, man. But
you had a great, great career.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You had a great career.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Man. So it's so good to see you brothers doing
this right here right now.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah yeah. Man.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Also, also, I want to know you know that story
just brought up. Some of it was kind of a
feel from from Javis. I want you to understand that, right,
So I let him. I'ma let him explain to you.
I'm not gonna get y'all business.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But ja.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So, so I ran the I don't know if you
remember it totally, but I ran a forty that day
and I ran a four seven seven, and my agent
called me on the phone and he was like, hey, listen,
you can't run another forty, Like like, if you can't
don't go back out there and run another forty. So
I'm like, so what do I do? And he told
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me to fake a hamstring.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yoh but god.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Hey hey, then you came.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
You came up to me and you told me, and
you and you told me, and you say, are you
still gonna go?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And I was like, man, I'm gonna try.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
And you said, you said, man, that's what I love
about these LSU receivers. They're so fierce, they tough everything
you want in the football player. And I literally started
crying because I felt like I had to let you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Down in my.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh my, oh my heart, I had to let you
down in my heart, let you down. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Don't go ahead, because I understand what you said, because
that was That's what that That's what it was. When
I was coming in the league, everybody talking about, man,
it's about its forty time.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I was sick of that. Dude. I used to wear
a clock around my neck. Four five. I got to
get out of this ghetto. I gotta run this four five.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I was. I was flavor flame, waiting for flavor flake.
I want it all the time, you know what I'm saying.
And that was The one thing all I worried about
was that forty. It don't determine how you played football,
but you know, but they put in your mind, that's
what they put in your head. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And I'm not a great tester. I don't test well.
I don't test well.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But but when you turn on the tape and when
you and when you get to the part of the
combine that I was excited about the most. If I'm honest,
what's to run routes, what's to show people my game speed,
my transition in and out of breaks my hands?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And I didn't have the opportunity, and I trusted my agent.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And you know, God, God's will is greater than it,
than than than my will, right, because it's still worked out.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It still worked out. But I had some I was
fearful and then and then at.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
The same time, I felt like I had let my idol,
one of my idols down right, like.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You came up to me. But I did it, but
I fact it felt bad. I felt bad. Man, I
get it because I had PTSD about that.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Damn for it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I had PTSD about it.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
All these takedown I'm be opping everybody, y, You're gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Bring this up anyway, jail, anyway they think about this.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I tell people I went through gold jackets to get
all my gold rings in every gold jacket I played
for world class sprinters den Are sanders daleld Green, Rod Woodson.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I can't do. I gonna never if I died ten times.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And came back to life, I ain't still ain't gonna
be running out run those guys. Football ain't about that.
Football is not about that, you know what I mean.
It's about about understanding, you know what I mean. It's
it's a whole lot of other things. And that's forty
and all it's about so that I understood it. I
was scared.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I had PTSD about that too.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, so listen, I listen. I ain't a lie, so
he'll lie you. He lied to you. I'm gonna be
real here, lie you.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Go.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
We gotta put it how it is right. But I
want him to understand right like he champions. You know,
like you got you got rings, you know what I'm saying,
And I know I.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Got one.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
So it was like it's like we we I knew
I understand your talk, but he might not understand your dialect.
You know, you might not understand where you came from. Right,
So I'm gonna ask you this, right, champion and champion
in your in your eyes, who was the better player?
Joa was land here Leonard?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
For that? Hey, that's two different spots, doing two different things,
and two men in two different places to call great. Honestly, Leonard,
you were the most powerful runner I've seen man espacely
coming out of high school and I've ever seen. I'm serious,
what I saw you do, what running over grown men
(11:57):
were was insane and it was incredible. But now if
I tell you, I measure meant by distance trout by
distant trout. And you get a guy that goes to
run a four to seven and everybody say you can't
do this, and then your first three years you're breaking
every record catch tragging in the NFL. That's the hell
of them all.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's a hell of the stuff, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Now, you came in right, we expected you, and you
weren't lucking nothing us out, you know, knocking them out right,
But nobody Joe Jarvis can't run by nobody Jarvis. And
then he ran the four seven. But Jarvis found his
face and found this place, and he was such a dude.
(12:42):
They had to plan them. So so you know what
I mean, I can see what both of those are
all hell of the moments. But Leonard, like you said it,
they'll still come back to them.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Hey, what was your favorite championship? What was your favorite?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
That?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It has to be the first one for me, dude.
You know everybody talks about it. You know, a coming
at the second one. It's grade the third one, they're great,
but they didn't like that first one. And the first
one was in l A.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And we were out of hand. We crashed on.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
The face party right in l A, right there at
Roxbury a sunset, and they were to be quiet in
the back. We report, we are parted, we are created.
We were so out of head, dog like, we are
the party man. So so yeah, we we toured it out,
went up though it was it was La. It was
(13:39):
all up everything man. That that was definitely the best one.
I can tell you the truth. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
When the Cowboys documentary came out, like I've always loved you,
right but no, Pauls bro, but I fell in love
with you more right when when you was explaining catching
that ball up the the middle, Rynie Lot, I'm like listen, listen,
I told, I told, I listened. I told my wife.
(14:07):
My wife was laying next to me. I said, that's
the type of fucking teammate I would have ran your
wall for, because like you do, like you, you laying
on the line knowing that you know you might get
fucked up.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Right right right when joke to try to tell you
you ain't scared, nigga, I'm scared. Stop please stop pleasing. Hey,
currents ain't sitting here saying that ain't scared. Courages. I
gotta go with company these fears to go catch do
it anyway.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But that nigga right there cut his thing off to
hit somebody. Why should not be scared of him? You
know you're crazy. He wants to hit you that bad.
Should be scared of that. You should be scared of that.
That's that's that's not healthy. But but but y'all know
that that's the thing that pushes us past everything. Like, yeah,
(14:56):
I was scared.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I was scared. But little Michael, little Mike, what comes
up soon?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And soon? Big Michael said, boy, you're gonna get knocked out.
Little Michael said, you either.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Run that slate or we gotta run back to the ghetto.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
So so look, little Michael said, Hey, I look at running,
say let's go, because I ain't going back to the ghetto.
That's the whole kick. That's the whole kick. It's what
I'm It's not just what I'm running too. Is what
I'm running from. And I'm running from that ghetto. I
don't want no more of it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
That's crazy, Bro, I'm talking about Jawas, Bro, I like
that ship was that That was powerful to me, man,
that you said that, right, And I know you know
we all were young black men, right can you? And
I've made mistakes in my career, right, Javas made made mistakes,
and you made some made mistakes in your career. What
is your message out there to these young guys who
(15:46):
fucking off on their career? Like who who not understanding
right there about the one percent that can change generational lives.
And they're not they're not learning from their mistakes. They're
they're constantly doing the same thing over and over and over,
like what will be your worst of the month.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Well, you know one thing Bishop and I always talk about,
and the reality is this, exceptional people usually have exceptional issue.
You can't be exceptional on one side and then not
see it on the other side. My biggest issue with
(16:24):
me personally is I'm one hundred percent. That's what we are.
Where we fight hard, we go hard. I'm one hundred percent.
Now I have to make sure that I'm putting that
hundred percent in a good direction, because even.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
If it's going in a bad direction, I'm still.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So So I tell them all, great men must understand this,
and great men must mitigate the kid in him so
it doesn't screw up the king in him, and both
of them are in us. You'll see what I'm saying.
And also, you take a guy likes with a like
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a pooka, and everybody old booker, this pool going through
all the Booker's a twenty three, twenty twenty year old
kid out drinking and doing things and having fun. Every
twenty three and twenty four year old kid is doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But but but but you a pooko.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You see, So now everybody's gonna make you think maybe
like you're the worst dude in the world when they
know every twenty two, twenty three, twenty so you got
a minute.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You got a monitor that too.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
You can't just fall over it and let these people
start marking you and make you that you know, you
know what I'm saying you, I say, man, yeah, okay,
I'll get back and do what I gotta do. I
know what I have to do. But yeah, I think
that's an issue we have in this country. We're always
trying to put all of these moral strappings on twenty one,
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twenty two, twenty three year old kids that are fault
that way out of a hell hole in the beginning,
when we really should be undendured them and helping them
and and and giving them a little leadway on some
of the decisions they may make because they've come from
such places, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I think that's what we should do.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And and yeah, yeah, we got to mitigate the kid
in us so it doesn't mess up the king in us.
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, that's great. And I think I think you said
it when you say that too, it like it takes
me back.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
To like obviously you you transition into the media space, right,
and it takes me into where you hear, you know,
reporters and sports reporters, the guys that never played the
game right talk about how gods should be handling situations
or talk about how you know, uninformed things, right, are
are or are not putting themselves in that kid's shoes?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Right like a pookah?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Like you know we we we we you know, we
see this happen all the time.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
And like I feel like when you stepped over to
the other side, was it hard for you to kind
of like hold your tongue about some of these things
because these people don't really know what we have to
actually go with, go through, we have to deal with,
you know, all of the things. You know, your mama calling,
your uncle, calling your cousin calling, you know, and you're
trying to find some time to.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Enjoy what God has blessed you with as well, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
And doing that process, you do make some mistakes, yes, right,
But I think sometimes especially in the sports news man,
they overly you know, broadcast the failures are the downsides
of players, you know, whether it's just something to talk
about on TV or or or is just you know,
that's just who they are, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Like when you stepped over to that side, was it
hard for you?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Is it hard for you now now seeing guys that
you respect, maybe let's just say, you know, talk about guys.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Like that, you know, And that's such a great course
in jobs because when I came, when I started doing this,
I was going to make sure that I give the
other side that nobody would ever give. You know, when
we're okay, if we're talking about a pooka, everybody wants
to jump and kill them, like, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We should be doing this. You shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
You know, we all have been there right Well, we're
sitting at home and somebody's on the given commentary about
something that we've done.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
And say, oh, I can't believe they did this.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I just can't believe. With all of that town, all
of this money, I can't.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Believe in it.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Like, shut up, stop negro pleat, I can't believe he
got caught in a hotel room with girl you was
trying to get in that hotel room. You just stop
saying stuff like that. You know what I'm saying. You
don't stop making me the monster because you could so.
So you have to be you have to be very
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careful with it. You have to be careful because, honestly, now,
even more so than any people can get to you
or get their thoughts at you because they're always social
media and everything. You gotta know who you are man,
and and and and believe in who you are and
don't listen to it. And I love now being able
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to to say another side of the pooka situation, to say,
another side of what somebody else made be going through
and I and the one thing I always tell got
the one thing. Even sitting and talking with guys, that's
the part I love most. Like you know, you can
sit and talk with me about anything. I ain't got
no room to george, no damn body.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I can just I can stay with you, bro, but
I ain't got no room to gudge anybody. And God
has been here after all of that, so I can
share with you about it. So I look at it
that right, But you know.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's crazy though, it's like, uh like me being who
I am, right, and I'm not gonna lie. I've always
respected I've always respected guys that has been through things
right that's similar to me. So I've never been a
type of cat that listening to somebody that I know
that never been through something similar to me or not,
don't even come from the same background as me, right,
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And I think sometimes early early on in my NFL career,
I got That's why I kind of got the Progesson
in staying in the office, you know, being you know
it was it was crazy things that were saying about me.
So it's like now that see we I didn't grow
up watching you. But now when those documenties coming about
guys like yourselves and how you and Dionne and that,
(22:23):
that made me respect y'all more because y'all come from
my background. Y'all come from we both of us out
the hood. Right. I can't listen to somebody who grew
up in the suburbs and try to I'm liketter fun.
You ain't you wasn't You don't know what it is
to wake up sandwiches every day or going goingside the
house with the firest drinking water. You can't you know
(22:44):
how it is growing up in the houses.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Man so and carrying and like John said, you gotta
carry the hopes of that whole family. It ain't like, hey,
it ain't you making it to the prob. We not
to get to the pro and and and everything that
is real that looks real, man, And it is pressure.
It is press. The white players they got, they got
every dime of they money. They gotta worry about none
(23:06):
of that. They really don't. I got sixteen brothers, I
bet our own seven homes right now in Florida, and
every I got seven homes, and I got seven niggas
and all of them homes and they won't leave. And
they ain't paid rent in thirty years. And they'll call
me and say, hey, uh you know, a Michael, we
(23:27):
need some new caninars and the.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Chapters in the house. You've been standing up for thirty years.
You ain't paid rent or nothing, and what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You know we have these burdens that they don't because
our family filed. Remember I brought you some sneakers when
you were in the eighth grade. You should be able
to give me this house.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Like Nigga, I was sneakers. Why didn't I get you
some Jordans? Why I gotta get to our house?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
But you know, yeah, it's the best stock in the
world if you're looking at from their side.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
So long, I know that we have a haul out
and right can you can you tell us about this
Teamobile home room derby you got going on? I see
you got that. You got the team Obile hat on
your head. He talked to us us the player was
going on, and and.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Do it right quick. I did pros versus Joe's right,
and and and when I had an opportunity to go
do this home run derby, when I did pros versus jokes,
it was me Randy conture the m M A fighter
and Jose Koseko you know. And and and so I
played football against the Joe. Randy did m M A.
Jose was hitting home runs right and dude, the way
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that ball sound when Jose hit and I said, god damn,
I jumped up there. I didn't even get Yeah. I
was like.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Miss every time I missed. Every time, I was like,
this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Man. I got amazed watching guys and watching him hit
the ball. And I can't wait to get a chance
to do it and see that again in Philadelphia. Then
Philadel for your wishes, which has always been an interesting
city for me. And that's what I love. I love
the chance to get out and be about around those people.
And I'll get a chance to do it in Philadelphia
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at the home run derby.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's amazing. Well, we can't wait to watch you. We
can't wait to see you.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Let's catch up. Let's do this again soon. Please, we
have a hard rock bet segment. Lenny's locks.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
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Speaker 3 (25:30):
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Speaker 2 (26:30):
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Speaker 1 (26:47):
They would have over nine and a half, but they
will not make it to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Same old Cowboys, same old.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
All right, all right, all right, let's so so so
let's give it. Let's give an NFC East prediction. Then
who do you think wins the NFC East? Is that
the obviously you know it's not the Cowboys? Is it
the Giants?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Who who? You know?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
They got our boy Obi j back, Scatterboo comes back,
Malik Neighbors possibly come back off of injury and I
R you know, they may have a chance.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
There the Eagles, which they lost a J. Brown, right,
you know they have the hurts, It hurts.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You know Stakon Barkley, most of the team is still attack, right,
and then you got the Commanders and Vantet Sorry, sorry
about that about that, Kyle Limon, Sorry guys, And they
don't forget the Commanders, right, Commanders.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Jaden Daniels was injured last year and now he's back
in the fold.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
They did lose Deebo Samuel, but you know they picked
up some other weapons as well throughout this offseason.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
So who you got winning the NFC East?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Listen, listen. I would say my sneaky bet will be
the Giants. Oh right, because that's odds too, right, But
it's nothing like it's nothing like a team that's unfolding
right now. You don't know what they're gonna come out
week one. You don't know what the office is gonna
be like. Right, Scatable's back. I like Scatable. I think
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he needs to work on it. He's he's He's an
old fashioned down he'll runner, you know what I'm saying.
So I would like to see him, you know, a
little bit more wiggle, you know what I'm saying, use
him in the past game. But that dog horse brought I.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Have to go with.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I have to go with the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I think they make the playoffs, if not win the
Super Bowl. I mean they had their team is just
that good?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
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Speaker 2 (31:11):
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Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, man, I know, I know. Growing up, man, my
uncles loved his ass. Right, So coming in the house,
I see everybody with the A and A jerseys on, right,
and it goes to bring up another subject.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
O J.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Simpson. You know the bills, The Bills said they're not
gonna recognize him in a new stadium. Right to me,
I think it's disrespectful. But can I get your thoughts
on that? How you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I mean it is the Bills President A Business Operations
U recently recently stayed, did we have an organizational decision
that he is not a fit to display inside of
our new stadium and family circle?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
When this man was rushed for all them damn.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yards, scoring all these damn touchdowns, selling jerseys and isn't
he in the Ring of Honor in the old stadium. Yeah,
he is, if I'm not mistaken, he's in and bringing
on in the old stadium.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And and and no offense.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Literally, I know you was in Buffalo for a little bit,
but like Frank Gore was there as well.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I'm trying to think who else, who else was there?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
McCoy, uh, Marshawn Lynch, Marsham Lynch was there? My other guy,
My other guy that's there right now, the brother brother.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
James Cook, James Cook. No offense. And we can't get Dermot,
Thomas Thurman, Dermoan Thomas, right, Yeah, but nobody ran that ball, Like, oh, Jay,
if anybody, if any if there's anybody.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
That needs to be up in the ring there, especially
in a new stadium.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I feel like it's Oj Obviously all of the things
that happened off your field probably is playing into the
narrative of why he's not going into the Ring of Honor.
But you know what I mean, I think it's I
think it's not fair. I think it's not fair to
to OJ Simpson and and you know, his.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
State and the and the type of equity that he
put into the Bills right like he he was running
that thing.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Ain't too many the running backs ever you know, ran
it like him. So I mean I think it's a
narrative thing.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
But you know what you think, Yeah, I mean it's
always a narrative thing, right. It's all about how you
represent not just yourself, but something that was big you're
part of outside of football, And it definitely played his part, right.
I wish and I hope that somehow, you know, they
rethink that, they rethink that and put him in a stadium,
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even though that's out of our context, is out our hands.
But yeah, do right, do right by the man?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Yeah, but OJ turning over in his grave right now? Bro,
you know that's how they say it back. But man,
OJ turning over in his grave right now?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Man?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
You know definitely.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Still Bro, serious, man, this man turned over?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
If it ain't no way, I just I just don't see,
you know, what he gave to the Buffalo Bills and
his legacy, I just don't see how it just evaporates
like that, right, you know what I mean? Like, you know,
he's somebody that when you when you go to any
other stadium, regardless of what some guy did off the field, right,
if they played great, if they won championships, if they
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were the top player on your team for years, and
they're they're honored, they're in the Ring of Honor. That's
that's that's also like you know, adding jewelry to to
your stadium, right when you got guys like that up there,
it's adding jewelry to your stadium. That that I feel
like it's earned. It wasn't something that was given. You know,
(34:57):
his career was earned, you know what I mean. So
it's interesting, man, Yeah, maybe it's a narrative thing. But
you know again, I mean, who's saying what? Like, who
is who is asking?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Who's saying, hey, y'all can't put that put put put
O J. Simpson's name in there? Like who you think
is that like they did a petition? Is that a
fan vote?
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Like is that a just a I think I think
I think it's inside the building, you know how it is.
It's definitely inside the building. I mean, and we know
and by me being up there in the bills, you know,
it's a football it's a football town. So he was
still with oj O J. Jerseys, you know what I'm saying.
But I think it's inside the building, and hey, I
hope y'all have the Bills do the right thing, man.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
So Jim Kelly making it right, Yeah, they're gonna put
they damn you're gonna put Josh Allen up there before
he even retired.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
I I just don't understand.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I just don't see it, right, you know, like when
I think of Buffalo Bills in the history of Buffalo, right,
I played in the I played in the division, right
like I.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Think of old Jim Kelly, I think of you know, O. J.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Simpson, you know, Josh Reed, the LSU guy, right like
I think of I think of these are the players
that I think of.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Josh Allen, Right, I think of.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Josh Allen, I think Stefanon dig you know when I
think of Buffalo Bills, you know, like, I just don't
know what.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Led to this decision.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
But if somebody Worerior colors, regardless of what they did
off the field, I think they deserve the right, you know,
to to carry over every name that was on the
old stadium into the new stadium.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
That listen that right there? I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
My Yeah, that's like you know, that's like, you know,
that's like doing a new death Valley and not taking
Leonard Fronette and Billy Cannon and Tyrn Matthew name to
the You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Like like it's insane, right, And I'm not saying that,
you know what I mean, shop me right, And I'm
not saying that, you know, I'm not saying that you know,
oh j did it that he didn't do it right.
I'm just saying that I know what he did on
the field the field, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
So you know, man, I I do hope that they
we consider and that they do get it right, man,
because it's something about when a guy's a legend and
he's no longer you know, with us, he can't even
speak for himself.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
He can't even you know. I don't know if it's
a state is going to speak up for him or
whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
You know, but you know, from from from your position
as a running back, I mean, I'm sure you know
you complete a case for while he should be.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
You know, uh in definitadium, you know, definitely yeah, bro,
So he Bill's get that right. In other words, Lebron
James is leaving the league. Hey shout out to Brunnie Hey,
which one though.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
James.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Okay, okay, okay, line on line, so we can talk
about that move. I respect on a hundred percent, got
two points, if my son got two points?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Something man.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
At the door guarantee knocking. You want it, and it's
all up to me.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
What want it?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Heyl Lagas. It's not it's not personal no more, it's business.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
We need that.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
So now if y'all don't want my son, I'm gonna
take it with me while I'm going at.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Well and y'all still gotta pay well, well, maybe they
maybe they try to say, you know what, we got
your son, We did right by your son.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
You gonna do right by us.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Listen, games is games right now, we listen, it's all
about games. Can we can we talk about this? The
start in five right now for the Leagas all white boys.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Man, they're gonna change. Bro, that's the first time how
many years?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
That's just he It's I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
That's you gotta chat gpt this bro.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I think I'm looking I'm looking at the lineup, Bro.
This ship remind me of the Mighty Ducks. This ship,
this ship is Oh my god, that's funny. What is
the what is they thinking?
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Right?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Now, hey, look, but but I would say this, do
you think, and it's a real question, do you think
the Bus family and the ownership already had in mind
when they acquired Luca that that you know, they knew
the possibility of Lebron age, how much longer he's gonna play.
You know, they took all those things into consideration, and
and and it worked out to where they still have
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a superstar, a max player on their team.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I think I think it makes it made sense for them, right,
Probably Lebron thought, Okay, I see they're trying to They're
kind of valuing Luca more than me because he's young.
No Bron, but you just never know. Listen, listen, don't
James man, but understand age talking about age like they
might Listen, they might not make none of Lebron, James,
(40:06):
but when it comes to we're talking about that money, Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. And the future, Yeah, Luke,
Luke got more shelf life. You're saying, yes, ten times more.
So do I respect it? No, because I wouldn't want
to disrespect one of the greatest in the game. Right.
But what I can see now since that has happened,
(40:28):
I pretty God, last year he end up in Olden
State with Steph. Somebody listen, I would listen. I would
love for him to get another ring, him and stuff together. Right, Yeah,
but in other origins, why not go back to Miami.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Right right, Listen, he goes back to Miami, they bro
either one of those teams. First of all, you said,
let's talk about this stuff thing. It's time the stuff.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
That get back in contentions of championship basketball. Yeah, you know,
get back on the court, get back healthy. I think
Lebron could be a special piece to that. And I
also think that going to my Miami fans gonna hate
me for saying this, but I think that going to
But I'm a Lebron fan too, So going to Golden State,
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we could see more Lebron.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I think. I think I think Lebron will play longer
because Steph is a point getter. He's a scorer, right,
three level score in a way, right, Lebron could just
point guard and get stuff open this and that. Right.
I think if Lebron came to Miami, he's gonna be
forced to score a little bit, right, And I could
take a toll on his body, right, And I want
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to see as much Lebron James as possible. And plus
he's still be on the West coast.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
He just built a beautiful crib out there on the
West coast, still close to his son.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Who knows, you know, maybe maybe the Lakers let his
saing go at some point. I hope that happened. But
you know, he can go down to Golden State and
join the team right down, right down the block. Man,
that'd be great opposed to flying across the card.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Listen, I can tell you why I don't want to
see his ass go back to Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Mant Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I don't like. I think that's like, that's like, that's
two fall back, you know what I'm saying, Like they're
not gonna get the same Brian they was thinking they're
gonna get. I mean, I want to see him winning.
Right understand, they got hard and they got Donovan Mitchell.
But yeah, yeah, but but better better chances, better chances
(42:30):
in my eyes with Steph and I.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Say this, I say this, I say this if Lebron
and and you know what, I know contradicted myself, y'all.
But now that I think basketball, it's easier to come
out the East than it is out the West. The
West got some animals. Yeah, you do not want to
play in the West right now. It's not a safe
(42:55):
time to play in the West. It's the wild West
for real.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
But we're gonna say this right now, he go through
the East, they're gonna make up excuse bruh people. I
don't know why. People just like Lebron so much, but
they're gonna say it was a it was an easy conference.
He was supposed to do that. Nah, I want my
man to go earn that ship. You can shut him
up and retire.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
You listen, Champions, Champions win regardless if the East the
West and not the South. He can go play in
Toronto all I care. You know, if Drake, if Drake, Hey,
chill out, bro chill out. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I'm just saying, you know, I don't.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
What I'm saying is, you know, you could take a
good player off the team, but you can't take a
team off the good you know what I'm saying, Like,
it just doesn't work like that. You know, you put
Lebron in any organization, He's going to be an impact player.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
He's gonna walk in, you know, make and make a difference. Man.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
He gonna be who we always know him to be. Yeah,
will it be in the same level, Maybe not, but
you know you can you can rest to surely gonna
make the playoffs, right I think if?
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I think I think in the West it's a lot tougher.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
And if he's making business decisions like we saw with
Bronnie or like we we assume with the Brownie situation
with the Lakers, I think all signs, even though I
love to see him play with Curry, I think all
signs lead to an Eastern Conference team, whether that's Miami
or Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Which how great would it be in his career in
in in Cleveland? How great would it not.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
If he wins?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Oh? Yeah for sure? I mean do you think this though,
do you think this you watched you watched the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
If if Donovan Mitchell and James Harden had a lebron
James of the team, do you think the Knicks even
you know, coming back in most of these games that
they won. Do you think the Knicks even winning the
championship this year? The Knicks might not even make it
out the series. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Oh listen, that's hard the answer, right, because the Knicks won. Hey,
you trying to get you up the Hitters?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
No, no, listen, I love New York.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
I was people don't don't them, people don't play about
the Knicks. Bro come on listen.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
And I was happy to see it and the time
it was perfect. I thought that they earned their championship.
It wasn't.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
I don't think the Knicks world team where you looked
at them as a roster and said, okay, like they're
supposed to win the championship, right.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
I think they earned their championship. A bunch of these
games they were down and came back and scored points.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I'm a big fan of Brunson. I thought Cat playing well.
Josh Hart perfect role player, you know, doing what he
gotta do whenever you gotta do it. I thought they
played well.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
But I just think that when you look at Boston,
you look at you know, Miami, who is now kind
of unraveled a.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Little bit and build regrowing, rebuilding their team like Cleveland,
Boston and the Knicks is really the East, you know
what I mean? Like it's not too many other teams.
So if I'm Lebron James, you know he could take
two three weeks off if.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
He wanted to and then come back, and yeah, bro,
just and come back, I'm saying, and come back and
still have a chance to make the playoffs, right like
you know, like we can rest into All Star break
in the East and the West.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
He got to play a couple of full look all, look,
I'm gonna say that, right, I'm gonna say that if
he if he does go back to Cleveland, Right, are
you having times that we should get flow seas off
the right? New Orleans on there, We're gonna off the
we need flow seas. But I can say this right,
this move reminds me of someone I play with, mister
(46:29):
Thomas Brady. Right, He's trying to prove himself that, you know,
I could do this kind of without the Lakers and
and and guys hit the same Brady did his first
year when he left. So I showed you. I show
hope King James get the last left to show them,
you know, because you know, in this game, and we
could be frank and real, it's about you, right, it's
(46:49):
about you. And they're trying to keep as much money
as they can too. I mean that's that's that's just
what it is in the today's sports in the game.
And that's what the fans don't understand. It's not that
we might not have it no more when we get
up to the age, but it's also about it's about
the future. As we talk about Lucas the future, it's
about saving money, it's about making sure they're preparing their
(47:09):
teams and they're just building the right way. But hey,
I can tell you this, when Brady came to Tampa,
he raised a lot of things. Yeah, everything went up.
So just know this, when Brian Brown choose his team,
that city, that state, everything going up. So I'm with
Bron Bron.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Did Brady take a pay cut to go to Tampa?
I believe so, yeah, because I think that's interesting too, right, Like,
I know Bron have done some things and restructuring and
some pay cuts here and there, but for the most part,
he's definitely been, you know, one of the highest played
players in the league for a long time.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
But it's interesting to.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
See how he approaches this year or his last year's
you know, from a from a monetary standpoint, right, like
from a contractual standpoint, like do you go into the
next situation or the next scenario taking I don't say
league minimum, but you know, taking.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Way less?
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Is it about? Is it about winning? Or it is
about you know right? Right?
Speaker 2 (48:09):
And and.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
At this age, you know, Brady won his championship and
came back, right. I wonder if Bron wins championship, does
he walk away from the game this year? If he
wins the championship this year, does he walk away? Does
he walk away when he wins his next one?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
But That's what I'm gonna do, right, Paul, figure this out.
I'm a car, so we can figure this out. Because
and I want to. I want when his time, his
time has come, right, I want his farewell to to
be best. Yeah, but he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah, I want to be surprised. I don't want him to.
I don't want I don't want to. I don't want
him to tell us this is his last season.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
What do you How do you feel when guys be like, hey,
this is my final season, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, I think I think I think they fuck it up? Yeah,
bro right, I think I think even when Thomas retired,
it's like damn, It's like Nahna, it's like you know what,
you know what? You know what? What Mitchell saying in
the car man the game like Larry Birdy one of
them ball playing. You know what I'm saying, It's like
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I was the blue when he did it. I'm like, damn.
So it's like all the pieces, all the main pieces
we had on the team, we had to kind of
figure it out now, all right, we only came in
for Brady, right, and we know, you know, trying to win.
So it's like, damn, it's like a dag in our chest.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
And I felt I told, I always told British. I
feel like, Bro, if if I would have had you
at a quarterback as a quarterback in my early years,
I could have been like Mike, Mike every three times
full time. I'm saying now three top or top chapping
because a guy in his statue like Lebron and Brady,
they make the game that's that much easier when you
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surrounded by them. It's been real sure. So I just hope,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I hope that.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
He doesn't announce this be his last season. Yeah, and hey,
we're gonna be at some games for this all comes
to some games this year.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
I can take you that, man, it gonna be. It's
gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I remember, I remember when I got to Miami, he
was leaving Miami. And then when I got to Cleveland,
I got the chance to watch him for like one
one and a half or two seasons.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
And yeah, and I was.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
There when he made the buzzer beater versus Toronto. Sit courtside.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Bro, It's no other feeling, Bro, It's no it was
no other feeling like watching this the man that mid
the legend.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
All right, calm down, listen something Listen.
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Some people say some people still say, you know, it's
an argument between him and Jordan, And I'm a.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Jordan athlete, love Jordan Jordan, listen like like, but in
my time and in my day, Lebron James is my goat.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
I'm just gonna keep it the space I put my whole. Listen, Lebron.
If you've seen this and I get dropped by Jordan,
I need to get a Lebron.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Look, you know, look, you know what say Brian Brown,
cheap brother, Hey listen, that's good. Let's hope you know
I ride for mine.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
He heard me.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
At least you know I ride for you know, But
I respect the ghosts man and and he one of them.
You know, the game, the game would definitely, you know,
not be the same without him. Obviously, there's rising stars
in the league, you know, with with with Donovan Mitchell
and and s g A and cat John Morant goes
out to Minnesota now, you know, so you know, it's
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it's a lot of traction moving the younger players. That's
that's making their way in the league. It's different times,
but man, Bron Brown was Bron's my goat. Man, He's
literally my goat.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Hey, I appreciate everyone as always before we leave, my
brother listen mentally, how you been, How you been? You're
good man.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
I've been good.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Man.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
I actually came out to to Tennessee, Man to get
some R and R. So I'm just just looking out
at the landscape nature, you know, and the birds, the trees,
fireflies and and you know what I mean, like deer,
you know, things that you don't really get in Florida's
all you know. I did since that I needed a
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little break, you know, and uh, just from everything. And
then also obviously the news with Chris Johnson, like you
know that that that definitely struck a nerve in me, man,
because you know, we play a dangerous football game. And
and and we're tough, you know, we we train, you know,
and we never assume or think that something like that
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could happen to us. Like, like, I was so shocked
by the Chris Johnson news that I was just like, man,
like you know me, you look at these you look
at we look at guys like you know ourselves. You
look at guys like Chris Johnson. You know, we look
at these guys like superheroes, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, and and and and it's something that's it's
(52:57):
so unimaginable and unexplainable to see somebody, especially that quickly, bro,
being you know, and you know I've been. I've been
praying for him every every since, Bro, since since I
since I saw the news, and praying for his wife
and praying for his family and praying for everybody that's
(53:18):
sending prayers and interceding on his behalf.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
I've been, you know, because it's something that I've been
thinking about daily because I'm.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Just like, yo, like, man, I just shocked, Bro. I
shot like unbelievably shocked.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
And I know a lot of people don't know Chris,
but Chris Chris a real one. I ain't gonna lie
to you like I've been knowing them over the years,
you know. And I know you played before my time,
but for him just coming back and reaching back out
to me, telling me to stay focused in my earlier
career and doing I had to do. And like you said,
I was in the car actually on my way to
workouts and uh and you called me. You know what
(53:59):
I'm saying, you like, man, pray for Chris. So you know,
I'm like Chris who, I'm like, what happened? Like now,
Chris Johnson? You send me the clip? And man, I'm
talking about even when I was working out, I couldn't
stop thinking about it. I couldn't stop thinking about it,
right because he left a message and said, you know,
(54:20):
you go from working out every day, you know, with
your kids and so now you can't. Yeah, And I'm like, damn.
And it made me in a sense of you be
grateful for everything, right. And I know we all have
our own problems, you know, we all go through our
own things, but man, it's like you have to be
number one man for everybody at home. I don't know
(54:44):
how y'all life is with God, but get right, man,
get getting that Bible read. I mean, it has all
the answers for every scenario we go through in life,
where it's betrayal with friends, you're trying to figure out,
you know, how to get wealthy. It's it's it's in
the Bible, right, But something like that happening to Chris,
(55:06):
you know, Uh, hug you loved ones, Uh, pray and
uh just just check on your family, you know. So
the only reason why I say that because I know,
like I have my days, you know, jobs, you have
your days, and you know, we're human, you know, and
sometimes we feel like you know, uh, nobody understands us.
(55:28):
Which that's somebody that out that that does. Right. I'm
just not good with opening up to be honest. So
like I'm here for you, my brother, for the South
family here, we're here for each other, and even y'all
at home, we're here for y'all.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
I hope this message bring us with y'all spirit. You
know what I'm saying, to start reading a word understanding
whatever fight you're going through, you not in that fight alone.
So I think this also is one of my biggest things.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, I think this is you know, I think this
is also a reminder for for everyone.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
And and you know, I know, tragedy and and things
like this happened, you know, in life to two millions
of people, right, But you know, I think this one
for me, Man, was a real reminder of like how
fragile life is and how important the moments that we
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have with the people that we love is, bro Like,
because you just never know, you never you never know, Man,
something you know that seems small, something that doesn't seem
like to matter, could matter, could really.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Matter, Things could change that fast, bro.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
And and and.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
It's unfortunate that you know, Chris is an example of that,
you know what I mean. And and but but but and.
Speaker 4 (56:51):
I don't know how positive anyone could be around, you know,
knowing Chris as far as just talking about this. But
you know, I'm I'm I'm happy that his wife, Brittany,
I hope I said her name right, Brittany, and the
kids in the circle, everybody, you know, just continuing to
do their part.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
You know, we praying for miracles, were praying for all
of our times and wonders and and and my family,
my family specifically, Man, we're praying for him.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Man.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
I don't know if people out there fasting for him.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
I know I saw a couple of people doing als
challenges and things like that. Man, But you know, we
should we should do a fast.
Speaker 4 (57:34):
For him and and really you know, really in the
seed man and really pray for him man and his
family because.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
It's it's you know, it's a yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
He hurts saying something like that, and everybody back home,
I know, the biggest thing in our community, the black community,
y'all please will get check ups. Yeah, take care of yourselves. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. That's one of the big
things that I'm kind of putting awareness to my people
around me. It don't matter the little thing, get it
checked up. No, uh, get taken care of it. Take
(58:09):
care So you're not just black, but everybody who watched
the show, take care of yourselves. Man, take care of
your help, take care of your mental you know. And
said we love y'all, man, We appreciate y'all, and uh,
we'll see y'all next week. That is it, man for
the top boys, We all J two K
What sham? What shall we back again? You know what
I'm saying, Sirsky, I'm excited for this guest today. A legend,
a legend. Now listen, what what's what's what's what's what's past?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
A legend, beyond legend, beyond the legend.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Listen, man, we have mister incredible Michael Irving.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You're lucky. I got my belt. I'll put my belt
out right now.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Listen, listen, So so I understand. Listen, I got to
hop straight into let's talk about the belt. What in
your mind, your right mind made you put that out?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Talk to me?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Man? You know, hey, listen, you know nowadays with everything,
the first thing, this thing, how this popped off right
because they were talking so much noise? Ain't it was
Florida State because I got there a day early, and
when he had something to eat.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean, they were cracking, man, just everywhere. We gonna
do this, Michael, We gonna do this.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I said, you know what, I'm trying to be sensible,
you know, but but we about to bang, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Answer. We go after that game, after.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That game, you know, dude, after that game, and that
was a good game, and we had one. Oh, I
was gonna let them know. Plenty of times I have
been down to that stadium. You know, hey, I raised
that shirt up. I was saying, all let noise, y'all
been talking all day yesterday, all dated morning, and y'all
(01:49):
win and got y'all ass whooped like that. Dude, it's
time for I went and start putting that belt on.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Him, cooling on the cool I would.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Put you know while when I was doing it, you
taking the comments them dudes are right, you know, he
not got his ass whooped. He looking the way he's
swinging somebody that was one of them personals.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's them Florida.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Whoopings that that you used to be able to get, man,
But I can't imagine. I can't believe how that thing
just took wild fight. That's all I get kids today,
seven eight eight year old kids. They never watched me
play one down. You you bet a man? You know?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
So yeah, man, that went crazy? Man, can you.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Talk about like how the times has changed so much
that like going viral for for something like that is
like and being known for something like that now outside
of your playing career, like it's a spectacular thing.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Social media and and and and.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know, guys like yourself, like stepping up and doing
things like that, support your team, coming up with different
things like that, like you talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Right and due.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
This is appropos for us guys like us, you know,
like you, Leonard, you and Jars. And I know when
I say that, I mean, I know what I'm saying.
You know, I know, kind of dude, we ain't gonna
take no look, so so we need places where we
can be us really, And.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's what I love about the platforms.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I've been doing TV a long time and and
you know, TV restricts you and you only get a
chance really to talk at people to people, but you
don't really get a chance to speak with people. Real
brow comes from us talking with one another. You share
your story. I'm sharing mind. That's why when the Bible says,
(03:47):
you know, confess one ye to the other, pray one
dye for the other. In this we shall find healing.
So we're supposed to be talking and telling our stories.
And and and then since we since us.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
All three of us, all three of us, extra.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Ton of negroes, you know what I'm saying, and we
need to explain our story sometimes because they'll take.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
It a run another way.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So wait a minute, so we get an opportunity to
do that.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Now, you see what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Before they would make you the worst jokers in the
world just because you don't step in fis like they
want you to. But this gives us an opportunity to
show who we really are and that I appreciate it.
And let me tell you about you two months because
I love both of you, mugs. I always measure a man.
I always say that, measure a man in distance travel
(04:39):
and tell me about where you are. Let me see
where you started, and let me see where you're Tell
me about where you started, let me see where you are.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I measure your quarterly.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I mean, I measure a fight in a man and
YouTube bugs, I got a your your your hey boy,
that's a fighter, y'all.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Boy, that's a real fight. I mean too.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You know I watched Leonard Man, Leonard, I watch you
do some things I ain't think any man.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Should be doing that day. You know what I'm saying.
You can run that dude over like that. You gotta right.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Right their polls, your wheel dog and and jay jobs.
I came to jogs dog, I was doing you know
the NFL network, and I'm doing the broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We're out there at.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Come By Comeba and this joker running and you know,
running and and and and he kind of tweeked his
hammy and everybody was trying to tell him, don't go,
don't go that we need him to calm down, tell
him don't go.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
We don't want to mess him up.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And they want and they said, you, Mike cur you play,
he'll listen to you go. Tell him to calm down.
Have my I walk with my jolly butter over there. Yeah,
I want to tell Jarvis relaxed, man, you got it.
Job looked at me like, uh, I'm good. I gotta
show the man. I don't want to hear that. I
turned around, went back to me. I want to drift here.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's the dude I want. I want to hear none
of that I want. I told him. Then I said,
I draft that, dude. I want the dude. They ain't dude,
I ain't listening to you, dude.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
This is my chance to show everybody, and they gonna
know before I leave here today. Before I left there,
I knew. I said, boy, if I'm anybody, I'm driving
jobs langdon because that that that's how to fight you
onto your locker room.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Hey, you think if I went to the Cowboys, we'll
have a champion, another championship right now?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Please please, that wouldn't been I'm telling you, I've been
right there with you.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'd been right, you know. But hey, carry you what
you need. Tell you you didn't see that saint to
be t all the sainty bitter. Be careful.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I've been talking with you the whole way, man. But
you had a great, great career.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You had a great career.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Man. So it's so good to see you brothers doing
this right here right now.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah yeah. Man.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Also, also, I want to know you know that story
just brought up. Some of it was kind of a
feel from from Javis. I want you to understand that, right,
So I let him. I'ma let him explain to you.
I'm not gonna get y'all business.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But ja.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So, so I ran the I don't know if you
remember it totally, but I ran a forty that day
and I ran a four seven seven, and my agent
called me on the phone and he was like, hey, listen,
you can't run another forty, Like like, if you can't
don't go back out there and run another forty. So
I'm like, so what do I do? And he told
(07:50):
me to fake a hamstring.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yoh but god.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Hey hey, then you came.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
You came up to me and you told me, and
you and you told me, and you say, are you
still gonna go?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And I was like, man, I'm gonna try.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
And you said, you said, man, that's what I love
about these LSU receivers. They're so fierce, they tough everything
you want in the football player. And I literally started
crying because I felt like I had to let you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Down in my.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh my, oh my heart, I had to let you
down in my heart, let you down. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Don't go ahead, because I understand what you said, because
that was That's what that That's what it was. When
I was coming in the league, everybody talking about, man,
it's about its forty time.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I was sick of that. Dude. I used to wear
a clock around my neck. Four five. I got to
get out of this ghetto. I gotta run this four five.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I was. I was flavor flame, waiting for flavor flake.
I want it all the time, you know what I'm saying.
And that was The one thing all I worried about
was that forty. It don't determine how you played football,
but you know, but they put in your mind, that's
what they put in your head. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And I'm not a great tester. I don't test well.
I don't test well.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But but when you turn on the tape and when
you and when you get to the part of the
combine that I was excited about the most. If I'm honest,
what's to run routes, what's to show people my game speed,
my transition in and out of breaks my hands?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And I didn't have the opportunity, and I trusted my agent.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And you know, God, God's will is greater than it,
than than than my will, right, because it's still worked out.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It still worked out. But I had some I was
fearful and then and then at.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
The same time, I felt like I had let my idol,
one of my idols down right, like.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You came up to me. But I did it, but
I fact it felt bad. I felt bad. Man, I
get it because I had PTSD about that.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Damn for it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I had PTSD about it.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
All these takedown I'm be opping everybody, y, You're gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Bring this up anyway, jail, anyway they think about this.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I tell people I went through gold jackets to get
all my gold rings in every gold jacket I played
for world class sprinters den Are sanders daleld Green, Rod Woodson.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I can't do. I gonna never if I died ten times.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And came back to life, I ain't still ain't gonna
be running out run those guys. Football ain't about that.
Football is not about that, you know what I mean.
It's about about understanding, you know what I mean. It's
it's a whole lot of other things. And that's forty
and all it's about so that I understood it. I
was scared.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I had PTSD about that too.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, so listen, I listen. I ain't a lie, so
he'll lie you. He lied to you. I'm gonna be
real here, lie you.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Go.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
We gotta put it how it is right. But I
want him to understand right like he champions. You know,
like you got you got rings, you know what I'm saying,
And I know I.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Got one.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
So it was like it's like we we I knew
I understand your talk, but he might not understand your dialect.
You know, you might not understand where you came from. Right,
So I'm gonna ask you this, right, champion and champion
in your in your eyes, who was the better player?
Joa was land here Leonard?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
For that? Hey, that's two different spots, doing two different things,
and two men in two different places to call great. Honestly, Leonard,
you were the most powerful runner I've seen man espacely
coming out of high school and I've ever seen. I'm serious,
what I saw you do, what running over grown men
(11:57):
were was insane and it was incredible. But now if
I tell you, I measure meant by distance trout by
distant trout. And you get a guy that goes to
run a four to seven and everybody say you can't
do this, and then your first three years you're breaking
every record catch tragging in the NFL. That's the hell
of them all.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's a hell of the stuff, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Now, you came in right, we expected you, and you
weren't lucking nothing us out, you know, knocking them out right,
But nobody Joe Jarvis can't run by nobody Jarvis. And
then he ran the four seven. But Jarvis found his
face and found this place, and he was such a dude.
(12:42):
They had to plan them. So so you know what
I mean, I can see what both of those are
all hell of the moments. But Leonard, like you said it,
they'll still come back to them.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Hey, what was your favorite championship? What was your favorite?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
That?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It has to be the first one for me, dude.
You know everybody talks about it. You know, a coming
at the second one. It's grade the third one, they're great,
but they didn't like that first one. And the first
one was in l A.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And we were out of hand. We crashed on.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
The face party right in l A, right there at
Roxbury a sunset, and they were to be quiet in
the back. We report, we are parted, we are created.
We were so out of head, dog like, we are
the party man. So so yeah, we we toured it out,
went up though it was it was La. It was
(13:39):
all up everything man. That that was definitely the best one.
I can tell you the truth. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
When the Cowboys documentary came out, like I've always loved you,
right but no, Pauls bro, but I fell in love
with you more right when when you was explaining catching
that ball up the the middle, Rynie Lot, I'm like listen, listen,
I told, I told, I listened. I told my wife.
(14:07):
My wife was laying next to me. I said, that's
the type of fucking teammate I would have ran your
wall for, because like you do, like you, you laying
on the line knowing that you know you might get
fucked up.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Right right right when joke to try to tell you
you ain't scared, nigga, I'm scared. Stop please stop pleasing. Hey,
currents ain't sitting here saying that ain't scared. Courages. I
gotta go with company these fears to go catch do
it anyway.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But that nigga right there cut his thing off to
hit somebody. Why should not be scared of him? You
know you're crazy. He wants to hit you that bad.
Should be scared of that. You should be scared of that.
That's that's that's not healthy. But but but y'all know
that that's the thing that pushes us past everything. Like, yeah,
(14:56):
I was scared.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I was scared. But little Michael, little Mike, what comes
up soon?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And soon? Big Michael said, boy, you're gonna get knocked out.
Little Michael said, you either.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Run that slate or we gotta run back to the ghetto.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
So so look, little Michael said, Hey, I look at running,
say let's go, because I ain't going back to the ghetto.
That's the whole kick. That's the whole kick. It's what
I'm It's not just what I'm running too. Is what
I'm running from. And I'm running from that ghetto. I
don't want no more of it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
That's crazy, Bro, I'm talking about Jawas, Bro, I like
that ship was that That was powerful to me, man,
that you said that, right, And I know you know
we all were young black men, right can you? And
I've made mistakes in my career, right, Javas made made mistakes,
and you made some made mistakes in your career. What
is your message out there to these young guys who
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fucking off on their career? Like who who not understanding
right there about the one percent that can change generational lives.
And they're not they're not learning from their mistakes. They're
they're constantly doing the same thing over and over and over,
like what will be your worst of the month.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Well, you know one thing Bishop and I always talk about,
and the reality is this, exceptional people usually have exceptional issue.
You can't be exceptional on one side and then not
see it on the other side. My biggest issue with
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me personally is I'm one hundred percent. That's what we are.
Where we fight hard, we go hard. I'm one hundred percent.
Now I have to make sure that I'm putting that
hundred percent in a good direction, because even.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
If it's going in a bad direction, I'm still.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So So I tell them all, great men must understand this,
and great men must mitigate the kid in him so
it doesn't screw up the king in him, and both
of them are in us. You'll see what I'm saying.
And also, you take a guy likes with a like
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a pooka, and everybody old booker, this pool going through
all the Booker's a twenty three, twenty twenty year old
kid out drinking and doing things and having fun. Every
twenty three and twenty four year old kid is doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But but but but you a pooko.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You see, So now everybody's gonna make you think maybe
like you're the worst dude in the world when they
know every twenty two, twenty three, twenty so you got
a minute.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You got a monitor that too.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
You can't just fall over it and let these people
start marking you and make you that you know, you
know what I'm saying you, I say, man, yeah, okay,
I'll get back and do what I gotta do. I
know what I have to do. But yeah, I think
that's an issue we have in this country. We're always
trying to put all of these moral strappings on twenty one,
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twenty two, twenty three year old kids that are fault
that way out of a hell hole in the beginning,
when we really should be undendured them and helping them
and and and giving them a little leadway on some
of the decisions they may make because they've come from
such places, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I think that's what we should do.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And and yeah, yeah, we got to mitigate the kid
in us so it doesn't mess up the king in us.
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, that's great. And I think I think you said
it when you say that too, it like it takes
me back.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
To like obviously you you transition into the media space, right,
and it takes me into where you hear, you know,
reporters and sports reporters, the guys that never played the
game right talk about how gods should be handling situations
or talk about how you know, uninformed things, right, are
are or are not putting themselves in that kid's shoes?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Right like a pookah?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Like you know we we we we you know, we
see this happen all the time.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
And like I feel like when you stepped over to
the other side, was it hard for you to kind
of like hold your tongue about some of these things
because these people don't really know what we have to
actually go with, go through, we have to deal with,
you know, all of the things. You know, your mama calling,
your uncle, calling your cousin calling, you know, and you're
trying to find some time to.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Enjoy what God has blessed you with as well, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
And doing that process, you do make some mistakes, yes, right,
But I think sometimes especially in the sports news man,
they overly you know, broadcast the failures are the downsides
of players, you know, whether it's just something to talk
about on TV or or or is just you know,
that's just who they are, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Like when you stepped over to that side, was it
hard for you?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Is it hard for you now now seeing guys that
you respect, maybe let's just say, you know, talk about guys.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Like that, you know, And that's such a great course
in jobs because when I came, when I started doing this,
I was going to make sure that I give the
other side that nobody would ever give. You know, when
we're okay, if we're talking about a pooka, everybody wants
to jump and kill them, like, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We should be doing this. You shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
You know, we all have been there right Well, we're
sitting at home and somebody's on the given commentary about
something that we've done.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
And say, oh, I can't believe they did this.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I just can't believe. With all of that town, all
of this money, I can't.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Believe in it.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Like, shut up, stop negro pleat, I can't believe he
got caught in a hotel room with girl you was
trying to get in that hotel room. You just stop
saying stuff like that. You know what I'm saying. You
don't stop making me the monster because you could so.
So you have to be you have to be very
(20:38):
careful with it. You have to be careful because, honestly, now,
even more so than any people can get to you
or get their thoughts at you because they're always social
media and everything. You gotta know who you are man,
and and and and believe in who you are and
don't listen to it. And I love now being able
(21:01):
to to say another side of the pooka situation, to say,
another side of what somebody else made be going through
and I and the one thing I always tell got
the one thing. Even sitting and talking with guys, that's
the part I love most. Like you know, you can
sit and talk with me about anything. I ain't got
no room to george, no damn body.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I can just I can stay with you, bro, but
I ain't got no room to gudge anybody. And God
has been here after all of that, so I can
share with you about it. So I look at it
that right, But you know.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's crazy though, it's like, uh like me being who
I am, right, and I'm not gonna lie. I've always
respected I've always respected guys that has been through things
right that's similar to me. So I've never been a
type of cat that listening to somebody that I know
that never been through something similar to me or not,
don't even come from the same background as me, right,
(22:00):
And I think sometimes early early on in my NFL career,
I got That's why I kind of got the Progesson
in staying in the office, you know, being you know
it was it was crazy things that were saying about me.
So it's like now that see we I didn't grow
up watching you. But now when those documenties coming about
guys like yourselves and how you and Dionne and that,
(22:23):
that made me respect y'all more because y'all come from
my background. Y'all come from we both of us out
the hood. Right. I can't listen to somebody who grew
up in the suburbs and try to I'm liketter fun.
You ain't you wasn't You don't know what it is
to wake up sandwiches every day or going goingside the
house with the firest drinking water. You can't you know
(22:44):
how it is growing up in the houses.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Man so and carrying and like John said, you gotta
carry the hopes of that whole family. It ain't like, hey,
it ain't you making it to the prob. We not
to get to the pro and and and everything that
is real that looks real, man, And it is pressure.
It is press. The white players they got, they got
every dime of they money. They gotta worry about none
(23:06):
of that. They really don't. I got sixteen brothers, I
bet our own seven homes right now in Florida, and
every I got seven homes, and I got seven niggas
and all of them homes and they won't leave. And
they ain't paid rent in thirty years. And they'll call
me and say, hey, uh you know, a Michael, we
(23:27):
need some new caninars and the.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Chapters in the house. You've been standing up for thirty years.
You ain't paid rent or nothing, and what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You know we have these burdens that they don't because
our family filed. Remember I brought you some sneakers when
you were in the eighth grade. You should be able
to give me this house.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Like Nigga, I was sneakers. Why didn't I get you
some Jordans? Why I gotta get to our house?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
But you know, yeah, it's the best stock in the
world if you're looking at from their side.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
So long, I know that we have a haul out
and right can you can you tell us about this
Teamobile home room derby you got going on? I see
you got that. You got the team Obile hat on
your head. He talked to us us the player was
going on, and and.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Do it right quick. I did pros versus Joe's right,
and and and when I had an opportunity to go
do this home run derby, when I did pros versus jokes,
it was me Randy conture the m M A fighter
and Jose Koseko you know. And and and so I
played football against the Joe. Randy did m M A.
Jose was hitting home runs right and dude, the way
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that ball sound when Jose hit and I said, god damn,
I jumped up there. I didn't even get Yeah. I
was like.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Miss every time I missed. Every time, I was like,
this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Man. I got amazed watching guys and watching him hit
the ball. And I can't wait to get a chance
to do it and see that again in Philadelphia. Then
Philadel for your wishes, which has always been an interesting
city for me. And that's what I love. I love
the chance to get out and be about around those people.
And I'll get a chance to do it in Philadelphia
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at the home run derby.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's amazing. Well, we can't wait to watch you. We
can't wait to see you.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Let's catch up. Let's do this again soon. Please, we
have a hard rock bet segment. Lenny's locks.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You ready, bro, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
All right.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You know there's a lot of people that's you know,
putting in, you know, considering placing bets this off season,
hoping putting their parlads together, hoping that the information you're
giving out it's information that is used.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
To, you know, bring some money, some money. I can
say this. I can say this now that I know
people have been taking it serious. I've been calculating my steps,
doing my research, acts and others that's familiar with this
betting game space. And I think I'm getting better at it.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm getting better.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
So it's fair to say that all the money that
you lost everybody doing the NBA playoffs, it's right now,
right now.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's it's totally my fault. It's totally my fault. Yes,
I was going to intuition, I was going on beliefs.
I was going off the winning fail system failed. I failed.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
All right, Hey, listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
You know you're only as good as your next bet, right, Yeah,
let's do it, all right. This next segment is mussive
by hard Rock bet it's called Lenny's Locks. We have
the Dallas Cowboys win total. Will the Dallas Cowboys have
an over under a nine and a half games?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
They would have over nine and a half, but they
will not make it to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Same old Cowboys, same old.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
All right, all right, all right, let's so so so
let's give it. Let's give an NFC East prediction. Then
who do you think wins the NFC East? Is that
the obviously you know it's not the Cowboys? Is it
the Giants?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Who who? You know?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
They got our boy Obi j back, Scatterboo comes back,
Malik Neighbors possibly come back off of injury and I
R you know, they may have a chance.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
There the Eagles, which they lost a J. Brown, right,
you know they have the hurts, It hurts.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You know Stakon Barkley, most of the team is still attack, right,
and then you got the Commanders and Vantet Sorry, sorry
about that about that, Kyle Limon, Sorry guys, And they
don't forget the Commanders, right, Commanders.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Jaden Daniels was injured last year and now he's back
in the fold.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
They did lose Deebo Samuel, but you know they picked
up some other weapons as well throughout this offseason.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
So who you got winning the NFC East?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Listen, listen. I would say my sneaky bet will be
the Giants. Oh right, because that's odds too, right, But
it's nothing like it's nothing like a team that's unfolding
right now. You don't know what they're gonna come out
week one. You don't know what the office is gonna
be like. Right, Scatable's back. I like Scatable. I think
(28:19):
he needs to work on it. He's he's He's an
old fashioned down he'll runner, you know what I'm saying.
So I would like to see him, you know, a
little bit more wiggle, you know what I'm saying, use
him in the past game. But that dog horse brought I.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Have to go with.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I have to go with the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I think they make the playoffs, if not win the
Super Bowl. I mean they had their team is just
that good?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
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Speaker 1 (30:51):
We had one of the golds on here, broh, one.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Of the best ever like ever to do it. Bro
Like like that was really headed into the greatest direction.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
I think, like any of our interviews have ever had it,
you know, like I really felt good about it, man,
and and sad to see he had, you know, obviously
had We got cut short time.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But you know, but man, we're gonna do it again.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
So y'all make sure y'all stay tuned and keep and
keep following us, keep watching us. Man, we're getting back
on here again and we're gonna talk some more deeper
conversations and you know, just chop it up and catch
it up.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, man, I know, I know. Growing up, man, my
uncles loved his ass. Right, So coming in the house,
I see everybody with the A and A jerseys on, right,
and it goes to bring up another subject.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
O J.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Simpson. You know the bills, The Bills said they're not
gonna recognize him in a new stadium. Right to me,
I think it's disrespectful. But can I get your thoughts
on that? How you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I mean it is the Bills President A Business Operations
U recently recently stayed, did we have an organizational decision
that he is not a fit to display inside of
our new stadium and family circle?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
When this man was rushed for all them damn.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yards, scoring all these damn touchdowns, selling jerseys and isn't
he in the Ring of Honor in the old stadium. Yeah,
he is, if I'm not mistaken, he's in and bringing
on in the old stadium.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And and and no offense.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Literally, I know you was in Buffalo for a little bit,
but like Frank Gore was there as well.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I'm trying to think who else, who else was there?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
McCoy, uh, Marshawn Lynch, Marsham Lynch was there? My other guy,
My other guy that's there right now, the brother brother.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
James Cook, James Cook. No offense. And we can't get Dermot,
Thomas Thurman, Dermoan Thomas, right, Yeah, but nobody ran that ball, Like, oh, Jay,
if anybody, if any if there's anybody.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
That needs to be up in the ring there, especially
in a new stadium.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I feel like it's Oj Obviously all of the things
that happened off your field probably is playing into the
narrative of why he's not going into the Ring of Honor.
But you know what I mean, I think it's I
think it's not fair. I think it's not fair to
to OJ Simpson and and you know, his.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
State and the and the type of equity that he
put into the Bills right like he he was running
that thing.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Ain't too many the running backs ever you know, ran
it like him. So I mean I think it's a
narrative thing.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
But you know what you think, Yeah, I mean it's
always a narrative thing, right. It's all about how you
represent not just yourself, but something that was big you're
part of outside of football, And it definitely played his part, right.
I wish and I hope that somehow, you know, they
rethink that, they rethink that and put him in a stadium,
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even though that's out of our context, is out our hands.
But yeah, do right, do right by the man?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Yeah, but OJ turning over in his grave right now? Bro,
you know that's how they say it back. But man,
OJ turning over in his grave right now?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Man?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
You know definitely.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Still Bro, serious, man, this man turned over?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
If it ain't no way, I just I just don't see,
you know, what he gave to the Buffalo Bills and
his legacy, I just don't see how it just evaporates
like that, right, you know what I mean? Like, you know,
he's somebody that when you when you go to any
other stadium, regardless of what some guy did off the field, right,
if they played great, if they won championships, if they
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were the top player on your team for years, and
they're they're honored, they're in the Ring of Honor. That's
that's that's also like you know, adding jewelry to to
your stadium, right when you got guys like that up there,
it's adding jewelry to your stadium. That that I feel
like it's earned. It wasn't something that was given. You know,
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his career was earned, you know what I mean. So
it's interesting, man, Yeah, maybe it's a narrative thing. But
you know again, I mean, who's saying what? Like, who
is who is asking?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Who's saying, hey, y'all can't put that put put put
O J. Simpson's name in there? Like who you think
is that like they did a petition? Is that a
fan vote?
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Like is that a just a I think I think
I think it's inside the building, you know how it is.
It's definitely inside the building. I mean, and we know
and by me being up there in the bills, you know,
it's a football it's a football town. So he was
still with oj O J. Jerseys, you know what I'm saying.
But I think it's inside the building, and hey, I
hope y'all have the Bills do the right thing, man.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
So Jim Kelly making it right, Yeah, they're gonna put
they damn you're gonna put Josh Allen up there before
he even retired.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
I I just don't understand.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I just don't see it, right, you know, like when
I think of Buffalo Bills in the history of Buffalo, right,
I played in the I played in the division, right
like I.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Think of old Jim Kelly, I think of you know, O. J.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Simpson, you know, Josh Reed, the LSU guy, right like
I think of I think of these are the players
that I think of.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Josh Allen, Right, I think of.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Josh Allen, I think Stefanon dig you know when I
think of Buffalo Bills, you know, like, I just don't
know what.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Led to this decision.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
But if somebody Worerior colors, regardless of what they did
off the field, I think they deserve the right, you know,
to to carry over every name that was on the
old stadium into the new stadium.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
That listen that right there? I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
My Yeah, that's like you know, that's like, you know,
that's like doing a new death Valley and not taking
Leonard Fronette and Billy Cannon and Tyrn Matthew name to
the You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Like like it's insane, right, And I'm not saying that,
you know what I mean, shop me right, And I'm
not saying that, you know, I'm not saying that you know,
oh j did it that he didn't do it right.
I'm just saying that I know what he did on
the field the field, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
So you know, man, I I do hope that they
we consider and that they do get it right, man,
because it's something about when a guy's a legend and
he's no longer you know, with us, he can't even
speak for himself.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
He can't even you know. I don't know if it's
a state is going to speak up for him or
whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
You know, but you know, from from from your position
as a running back, I mean, I'm sure you know
you complete a case for while he should be.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
You know, uh in definitadium, you know, definitely yeah, bro,
So he Bill's get that right. In other words, Lebron
James is leaving the league. Hey shout out to Brunnie Hey,
which one though.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
James.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Okay, okay, okay, line on line, so we can talk
about that move. I respect on a hundred percent, got
two points, if my son got two points?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Something man.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
At the door guarantee knocking. You want it, and it's
all up to me.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
What want it?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Heyl Lagas. It's not it's not personal no more, it's business.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
We need that.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
So now if y'all don't want my son, I'm gonna
take it with me while I'm going at.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Well and y'all still gotta pay well, well, maybe they
maybe they try to say, you know what, we got
your son, We did right by your son.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
You gonna do right by us.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Listen, games is games right now, we listen, it's all
about games. Can we can we talk about this? The
start in five right now for the Leagas all white boys.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Man, they're gonna change. Bro, that's the first time how
many years?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
That's just he It's I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
That's you gotta chat gpt this bro.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I think I'm looking I'm looking at the lineup, Bro.
This ship remind me of the Mighty Ducks. This ship,
this ship is Oh my god, that's funny. What is
the what is they thinking?
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Right?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Now, hey, look, but but I would say this, do
you think, and it's a real question, do you think
the Bus family and the ownership already had in mind
when they acquired Luca that that you know, they knew
the possibility of Lebron age, how much longer he's gonna play.
You know, they took all those things into consideration, and
and and it worked out to where they still have
(39:40):
a superstar, a max player on their team.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I think I think it makes it made sense for them, right,
Probably Lebron thought, Okay, I see they're trying to They're
kind of valuing Luca more than me because he's young.
No Bron, but you just never know. Listen, listen, don't
James man, but understand age talking about age like they
might Listen, they might not make none of Lebron, James,
(40:06):
but when it comes to we're talking about that money, Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. And the future, Yeah, Luke,
Luke got more shelf life. You're saying, yes, ten times more.
So do I respect it? No, because I wouldn't want
to disrespect one of the greatest in the game. Right.
But what I can see now since that has happened,
(40:28):
I pretty God, last year he end up in Olden
State with Steph. Somebody listen, I would listen. I would
love for him to get another ring, him and stuff together. Right, Yeah,
but in other origins, why not go back to Miami.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Right right, Listen, he goes back to Miami, they bro
either one of those teams. First of all, you said,
let's talk about this stuff thing. It's time the stuff.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
That get back in contentions of championship basketball. Yeah, you know,
get back on the court, get back healthy. I think
Lebron could be a special piece to that. And I
also think that going to my Miami fans gonna hate
me for saying this, but I think that going to
But I'm a Lebron fan too, So going to Golden State,
(41:16):
we could see more Lebron.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I think. I think I think Lebron will play longer
because Steph is a point getter. He's a scorer, right,
three level score in a way, right, Lebron could just
point guard and get stuff open this and that. Right.
I think if Lebron came to Miami, he's gonna be
forced to score a little bit, right, And I could
take a toll on his body, right, And I want
(41:38):
to see as much Lebron James as possible. And plus
he's still be on the West coast.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
He just built a beautiful crib out there on the
West coast, still close to his son.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Who knows, you know, maybe maybe the Lakers let his
saing go at some point. I hope that happened. But
you know, he can go down to Golden State and
join the team right down, right down the block. Man,
that'd be great opposed to flying across the card.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Listen, I can tell you why I don't want to
see his ass go back to Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Mant Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I don't like. I think that's like, that's like, that's
two fall back, you know what I'm saying, Like they're
not gonna get the same Brian they was thinking they're
gonna get. I mean, I want to see him winning.
Right understand, they got hard and they got Donovan Mitchell.
But yeah, yeah, but but better better chances, better chances
(42:30):
in my eyes with Steph and I.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Say this, I say this, I say this if Lebron
and and you know what, I know contradicted myself, y'all.
But now that I think basketball, it's easier to come
out the East than it is out the West. The
West got some animals. Yeah, you do not want to
play in the West right now. It's not a safe
(42:55):
time to play in the West. It's the wild West
for real.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
But we're gonna say this right now, he go through
the East, they're gonna make up excuse bruh people. I
don't know why. People just like Lebron so much, but
they're gonna say it was a it was an easy conference.
He was supposed to do that. Nah, I want my
man to go earn that ship. You can shut him
up and retire.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
You listen, Champions, Champions win regardless if the East the
West and not the South. He can go play in
Toronto all I care. You know, if Drake, if Drake, Hey,
chill out, bro chill out. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I'm just saying, you know, I don't.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
What I'm saying is, you know, you could take a
good player off the team, but you can't take a
team off the good you know what I'm saying, Like,
it just doesn't work like that. You know, you put
Lebron in any organization, He's going to be an impact player.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
He's gonna walk in, you know, make and make a difference. Man.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
He gonna be who we always know him to be. Yeah,
will it be in the same level, Maybe not, but
you know you can you can rest to surely gonna
make the playoffs, right I think if?
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I think I think in the West it's a lot tougher.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
And if he's making business decisions like we saw with
Bronnie or like we we assume with the Brownie situation
with the Lakers, I think all signs, even though I
love to see him play with Curry, I think all
signs lead to an Eastern Conference team, whether that's Miami
or Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Which how great would it be in his career in
in in Cleveland? How great would it not.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
If he wins?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Oh? Yeah for sure? I mean do you think this though,
do you think this you watched you watched the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
If if Donovan Mitchell and James Harden had a lebron
James of the team, do you think the Knicks even
you know, coming back in most of these games that
they won. Do you think the Knicks even winning the
championship this year? The Knicks might not even make it
out the series. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Oh listen, that's hard the answer, right, because the Knicks won. Hey,
you trying to get you up the Hitters?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
No, no, listen, I love New York.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
I was people don't don't them, people don't play about
the Knicks. Bro come on listen.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
And I was happy to see it and the time
it was perfect. I thought that they earned their championship.
It wasn't.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
I don't think the Knicks world team where you looked
at them as a roster and said, okay, like they're
supposed to win the championship, right.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
I think they earned their championship. A bunch of these
games they were down and came back and scored points.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I'm a big fan of Brunson. I thought Cat playing well.
Josh Hart perfect role player, you know, doing what he
gotta do whenever you gotta do it. I thought they
played well.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
But I just think that when you look at Boston,
you look at you know, Miami, who is now kind
of unraveled a.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Little bit and build regrowing, rebuilding their team like Cleveland,
Boston and the Knicks is really the East, you know
what I mean? Like it's not too many other teams.
So if I'm Lebron James, you know he could take
two three weeks off if.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
He wanted to and then come back, and yeah, bro,
just and come back, I'm saying, and come back and
still have a chance to make the playoffs, right like
you know, like we can rest into All Star break
in the East and the West.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
He got to play a couple of full look all, look,
I'm gonna say that, right, I'm gonna say that if
he if he does go back to Cleveland, Right, are
you having times that we should get flow seas off
the right? New Orleans on there, We're gonna off the
we need flow seas. But I can say this right,
this move reminds me of someone I play with, mister
(46:29):
Thomas Brady. Right, He's trying to prove himself that, you know,
I could do this kind of without the Lakers and
and and guys hit the same Brady did his first
year when he left. So I showed you. I show
hope King James get the last left to show them,
you know, because you know, in this game, and we
could be frank and real, it's about you, right, it's
(46:49):
about you. And they're trying to keep as much money
as they can too. I mean that's that's that's just
what it is in the today's sports in the game.
And that's what the fans don't understand. It's not that
we might not have it no more when we get
up to the age, but it's also about it's about
the future. As we talk about Lucas the future, it's
about saving money, it's about making sure they're preparing their
(47:09):
teams and they're just building the right way. But hey,
I can tell you this, when Brady came to Tampa,
he raised a lot of things. Yeah, everything went up.
So just know this, when Brian Brown choose his team,
that city, that state, everything going up. So I'm with
Bron Bron.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Did Brady take a pay cut to go to Tampa?
I believe so, yeah, because I think that's interesting too, right, Like,
I know Bron have done some things and restructuring and
some pay cuts here and there, but for the most part,
he's definitely been, you know, one of the highest played
players in the league for a long time.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
But it's interesting to.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
See how he approaches this year or his last year's
you know, from a from a monetary standpoint, right, like
from a contractual standpoint, like do you go into the
next situation or the next scenario taking I don't say
league minimum, but you know, taking.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Way less?
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Is it about? Is it about winning? Or it is
about you know right? Right?
Speaker 2 (48:09):
And and.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
At this age, you know, Brady won his championship and
came back, right. I wonder if Bron wins championship, does
he walk away from the game this year? If he
wins the championship this year, does he walk away? Does
he walk away when he wins his next one?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
But That's what I'm gonna do, right, Paul, figure this out.
I'm a car, so we can figure this out. Because
and I want to. I want when his time, his
time has come, right, I want his farewell to to
be best. Yeah, but he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah, I want to be surprised. I don't want him to.
I don't want I don't want to. I don't want
him to tell us this is his last season.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
What do you How do you feel when guys be like, hey,
this is my final season, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, I think I think I think they fuck it up? Yeah,
bro right, I think I think even when Thomas retired,
it's like damn, It's like Nahna, it's like you know what,
you know what? You know what? What Mitchell saying in
the car man the game like Larry Birdy one of
them ball playing. You know what I'm saying, It's like
(49:17):
I was the blue when he did it. I'm like, damn.
So it's like all the pieces, all the main pieces
we had on the team, we had to kind of
figure it out now, all right, we only came in
for Brady, right, and we know, you know, trying to win.
So it's like, damn, it's like a dag in our chest.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
And I felt I told, I always told British. I
feel like, Bro, if if I would have had you
at a quarterback as a quarterback in my early years,
I could have been like Mike, Mike every three times
full time. I'm saying now three top or top chapping
because a guy in his statue like Lebron and Brady,
they make the game that's that much easier when you
(49:55):
surrounded by them. It's been real sure. So I just hope,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I hope that.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
He doesn't announce this be his last season. Yeah, and hey,
we're gonna be at some games for this all comes
to some games this year.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
I can take you that, man, it gonna be. It's
gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I remember, I remember when I got to Miami, he
was leaving Miami. And then when I got to Cleveland,
I got the chance to watch him for like one
one and a half or two seasons.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
And yeah, and I was.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
There when he made the buzzer beater versus Toronto. Sit courtside.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Bro, It's no other feeling, Bro, It's no it was
no other feeling like watching this the man that mid
the legend.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
All right, calm down, listen something Listen.
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Some people say some people still say, you know, it's
an argument between him and Jordan, And I'm a.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Jordan athlete, love Jordan Jordan, listen like like, but in
my time and in my day, Lebron James is my goat.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
I'm just gonna keep it the space I put my whole. Listen, Lebron.
If you've seen this and I get dropped by Jordan,
I need to get a Lebron.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Look, you know, look, you know what say Brian Brown,
cheap brother, Hey listen, that's good. Let's hope you know
I ride for mine.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
He heard me.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
At least you know I ride for you know, But
I respect the ghosts man and and he one of them.
You know, the game, the game would definitely, you know,
not be the same without him. Obviously, there's rising stars
in the league, you know, with with with Donovan Mitchell
and and s g A and cat John Morant goes
out to Minnesota now, you know, so you know, it's
(51:28):
it's a lot of traction moving the younger players. That's
that's making their way in the league. It's different times,
but man, Bron Brown was Bron's my goat. Man, He's
literally my goat.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Hey, I appreciate everyone as always before we leave, my
brother listen mentally, how you been, How you been? You're
good man.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
I've been good.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Man.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
I actually came out to to Tennessee, Man to get
some R and R. So I'm just just looking out
at the landscape nature, you know, and the birds, the trees,
fireflies and and you know what I mean, like deer,
you know, things that you don't really get in Florida's
all you know. I did since that I needed a
(52:12):
little break, you know, and uh, just from everything. And
then also obviously the news with Chris Johnson, like you
know that that that definitely struck a nerve in me, man,
because you know, we play a dangerous football game. And
and and we're tough, you know, we we train, you know,
and we never assume or think that something like that
(52:34):
could happen to us. Like, like, I was so shocked
by the Chris Johnson news that I was just like, man,
like you know me, you look at these you look
at we look at guys like you know ourselves. You
look at guys like Chris Johnson. You know, we look
at these guys like superheroes, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, and and and and it's something that's it's
(52:57):
so unimaginable and unexplainable to see somebody, especially that quickly, bro,
being you know, and you know I've been. I've been
praying for him every every since, Bro, since since I
since I saw the news, and praying for his wife
and praying for his family and praying for everybody that's
(53:18):
sending prayers and interceding on his behalf.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
I've been, you know, because it's something that I've been
thinking about daily because I'm.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Just like, yo, like, man, I just shocked, Bro. I
shot like unbelievably shocked.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
And I know a lot of people don't know Chris,
but Chris Chris a real one. I ain't gonna lie
to you like I've been knowing them over the years,
you know. And I know you played before my time,
but for him just coming back and reaching back out
to me, telling me to stay focused in my earlier
career and doing I had to do. And like you said,
I was in the car actually on my way to
workouts and uh and you called me. You know what
(53:59):
I'm saying, you like, man, pray for Chris. So you know,
I'm like Chris who, I'm like, what happened? Like now,
Chris Johnson? You send me the clip? And man, I'm
talking about even when I was working out, I couldn't
stop thinking about it. I couldn't stop thinking about it,
right because he left a message and said, you know,
(54:20):
you go from working out every day, you know, with
your kids and so now you can't. Yeah, And I'm like, damn.
And it made me in a sense of you be
grateful for everything, right. And I know we all have
our own problems, you know, we all go through our
own things, but man, it's like you have to be
number one man for everybody at home. I don't know
(54:44):
how y'all life is with God, but get right, man,
get getting that Bible read. I mean, it has all
the answers for every scenario we go through in life,
where it's betrayal with friends, you're trying to figure out,
you know, how to get wealthy. It's it's it's in
the Bible, right, But something like that happening to Chris,
(55:06):
you know, Uh, hug you loved ones, Uh, pray and
uh just just check on your family, you know. So
the only reason why I say that because I know,
like I have my days, you know, jobs, you have
your days, and you know, we're human, you know, and
sometimes we feel like you know, uh, nobody understands us.
(55:28):
Which that's somebody that out that that does. Right. I'm
just not good with opening up to be honest. So
like I'm here for you, my brother, for the South
family here, we're here for each other, and even y'all
at home, we're here for y'all.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
I hope this message bring us with y'all spirit. You
know what I'm saying, to start reading a word understanding
whatever fight you're going through, you not in that fight alone.
So I think this also is one of my biggest things.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, I think this is you know, I think this
is also a reminder for for everyone.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
And and you know, I know, tragedy and and things
like this happened, you know, in life to two millions
of people, right, But you know, I think this one
for me, Man, was a real reminder of like how
fragile life is and how important the moments that we
(56:17):
have with the people that we love is, bro Like,
because you just never know, you never you never know, Man,
something you know that seems small, something that doesn't seem
like to matter, could matter, could really.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Matter, Things could change that fast, bro.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
And and and.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
It's unfortunate that you know, Chris is an example of that,
you know what I mean. And and but but but and.
Speaker 4 (56:51):
I don't know how positive anyone could be around, you know,
knowing Chris as far as just talking about this. But
you know, I'm I'm I'm happy that his wife, Brittany,
I hope I said her name right, Brittany, and the
kids in the circle, everybody, you know, just continuing to
do their part.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
You know, we praying for miracles, were praying for all
of our times and wonders and and and my family,
my family specifically, Man, we're praying for him.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Man.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
I don't know if people out there fasting for him.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
I know I saw a couple of people doing als
challenges and things like that. Man, But you know, we
should we should do a fast.
Speaker 4 (57:34):
For him and and really you know, really in the
seed man and really pray for him man and his
family because.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
It's it's you know, it's a yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
He hurts saying something like that, and everybody back home,
I know, the biggest thing in our community, the black community,
y'all please will get check ups. Yeah, take care of yourselves. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. That's one of the big
things that I'm kind of putting awareness to my people
around me. It don't matter the little thing, get it
checked up. No, uh, get taken care of it. Take
(58:09):
care So you're not just black, but everybody who watched
the show, take care of yourselves. Man, take care of
your help, take care of your mental you know. And
said we love y'all, man, We appreciate y'all, and uh,
we'll see y'all next week. That is it, man for
the top boys, We all J two K
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