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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, my ass.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We told these people we had mister Joe Hayden on
this show.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yes, sir, a trade was possible. Look at us.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We we we really we really uh we might be
fit for this job.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh my god, God, oh my god, called the spade.
Spade though? Did you did you see this coming today?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Did you? Did you? Did you?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Did you see a Miles Garrett sighting happening today June first,
by the way, not today, not when the bills do, not, when.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
The bills do, not, when the bills do. Oh my god, Bro,
I love it, Bro, I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm happy that. I'm happy that it's a win. I
think it's a win win. First of all, give me
your thoughts about it. Look, first of all, you see
my shirts that way. I ran out of work I
was to get there. Yeah, I just have a few questions. Right,
So the trade is undergoing, right?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah? Reverse, He's he he's a hell of a player.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But his second year, his first year, I think his
first year four and a half sacks, second year seven
and a half sacks, and he won Brigetta.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Year, right, I think? So let me check. I'll double
triple check to make sure it's twenty five years old.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Mister Garrett is thirty years old at the moment right now.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
H.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Is this a is this a win now? Is this
a win now situation to you? Because you think about this,
forty nine ers would have got who mister mister thousands,
mister mister Michael, mister Michael Evans, right, yes, sir so?
Is this division is a division to be to be
on the lookout?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Listen?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
This might this This has officially become one of the
better best divisions in the NFL for twenty twenty six season.
Like like it's primetime games all all year and throughout
this division. I'm excited about it. I think it's a
win way for both sides first of all. And then
with Jared Verse, like you say, like he's young right
when he's twenty five? Yes, twenty five. I think he
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has two years left on his contract, Miles Garrett. Obviously
you know he signed a huge deal in Cleveland. So
you know the the Rams are gonna have to eat
some of that cause or figure something out. But who
cares at this point, right you got somebody that's gonna
walk in your building day one and things drastically change.
(02:53):
You're looking at a team that now has the offensive MVP.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And the defense. It's the MVP all what like?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Like I'm telling you, bro, when I saw this come across,
I'm like, yo, what wait what? So I'm excited about
this man. And obviously Jered Versus a phenomenal player. We
can't just skip over that. You know, he was a
defensive Rookie of the Year, you know what I mean,
done a lot of great things.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Got two years left on his contract in Cleveland. Jaws.
They sent my boy to Cleveland to die. No, they
ain't send them there to die. Bro, listen, but dreams
come to shadow like that balance clean the Browns.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I don't know, so I feel like, personally it has
to be inside the building. I think either people don't
don't like him inside the building he wrote people the
wrong way. But you don't get rid of a guy
in his second year that's producing to a two time
pro bowler at that Rickie of the Year twenty five
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years old.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It has to be something going on inside that buildings.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, But I just feel
like the Rams are like, Bro, we want to win now, Bro,
Like why wait?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Why keep like? Why keep waiting? Why developing? Players. When
we have a guy that can come in.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Day one and drastically change our organization, I think you know,
Matthew Stafford, we know matchw staff is just a two
year deal. So for at least two more years, you're
getting one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL on
your on your team, right, So why not go all in?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
This is the Rams going all in.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But this is my thing, right right, So we all
know in this game, it's all about you. It's all
about that. And I understand they're trying to win now,
but tale Miles doesn't pan out? How they thought he
wasn't pan out? Because as I can remember, when we
got Nick Foles, you're shaking your head.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
But we got Nick Foles right off of.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Super Bowl MVP super Bowl year.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
He I hurt the first game. All that money we
had gone and Nick Foles is no Miles Miles Garrett.
It's not even close. It's not even close.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You talk to a generational talent and and no, no
disrespecting Nick Foles. Nick Foles a great player. Uh had
a great run. You know, he points the right ticket
at the right time. I'm happy for Nick Foles. He
got a a championship but he is nowhere the caliber
player of a Miles Garrett h nor would he ever be.
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Speaker 2 (07:36):
All right, So listen to details of the trade just
came up. The Rams received Miles Garrett. The Browns received
Jared Versus obviously, a twenty twenty seventh first round pick,
a twenty twenty eight second, and a twenty twenty nine
third round pick. So a big haul, A big haul
for a phenomenal player. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You think that you think the Rams stressed themselves too
far in this trade? Uh? I think it's I think
to me it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I know they're trying to win now, like you say,
because every other team in that division is making major
moves to win now, obviously, But my only thing is
we go we I would have to think about the
long the long run. Yeah, Jarrett is a young player.
He has plenty more years ahead of him at the most.
At the most, I believe mister Garrett has at least
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two two to three more years left of what of
playing at a high level that he's playing I'm being
real crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You cannot be for all the time. I don't give
a fuck who you are. You are crazy, Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Miles Garrett at least has another six years to play
if he wants to play all the time. I'm quite
sure Aaron Donald wanted to play. But oh, speaking of
Aaron Donald, can I can I can I show you
this right now?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, listen to this. Yeah, it's somebody, somebody, somebody to
get that man out of retirement.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Coming out of retirement for one fucking season. Let me
know one season. Listen, listen, you got help.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I played against you big as when you was you
and Von Miller now as you and Miles. Can we
get up?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Can we can we get you.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Our time and let me know yes or no? Hey,
listen what you think about that? I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I love that, and I think it would be great
for the organization, be great for the NFL, be great
for Aaron Donald, you know you. I think it'll be
amazing you. Let us know what he say when he
responded back, because but if he does, what come back
playing on that minimum?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's not it's not it's not only that right.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
People do not understand when we had to go against
Von Miller and Aaron Donald at the same time.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
You can't double team both them at the same time.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Now, I only can imagine if Myles Garrett is at
that end.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
An a d is that No's going at the same time.
Oh my god, it's pression. It's pressure. I think, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I think the Rams become the new favorite for to
win the Super Bowl. Easily become the new favorite to
win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So I'm asking you this coach, it's Miles Garrett, the
mister peace.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Absolutely, I don't even know why I thought twice. Absolutely, Okay,
you're looking at a guy he finished last year. I
think he had what twenty three twenty four sacks last season, right,
broke the league record last year having that only that's
that's three four more possessions in Matthew Stafford's hands a game.
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And we know when Matthew Stafford has the ball in
his hand. Sean McVay, how lead through that offense? Pooka
nookol Davontae Adams.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You know you can't Like this team is stacked. You
cannot overlook this team on any side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Like offensively, there's stacked defensively, they're stacked. Like, you know,
we may be looking at what the what the Browns
should have been and what we should have been at
the Browns over with, well with the Rams might might
potential to be.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I'm just saying, I know with Donut ever, compare, don't
do that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You don't think so hey, from an offensive perspective, the
weapons that the weapons there.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
All right, so let's let's let let's do this.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The year you and you had Odell So Okay, we
have quarterback Baker Mey Peel right, Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, I wouldn't compare to those two. That's just me.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
That's just me, right, I understand, I understand what you're saying.
But and and and you're right, quarterback play does make
up a lot of how successful your team is gonna be.
But Baker would play great, good enough football, damn near great.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Was on the verge of playing great football.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Some of his best football was ahead of him, right right,
So so and we know that now in Tampa Bay,
he's been he's been balling. So yeah, we were just
maybe an officeive coordinator away, right, We were just maybe
a play caller away from you know, Baker having true potential,
showing his true potential in Cleveland while we all were there.
From a receiver standpoint, you look at pookin the cool
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Davonte Adams.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I like what me and O'Dell bring to the table
as well. For sure. You know, you look in the backfield,
I think they got the Williams kid, who is a
great running back. I was take Nick Chubb exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So you know what I mean when you look at
this offense, they have a lot of great players, they
have a lot of great weapons, and you add you
know that one key factor that would be have been
on both teams is Miles Garrett. What Miles Garrett has
done throughout his career, especially what he did last year,
He's about to have new energy, new juice in new threads.
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I don't expect nothing less than another MVP season out
of Miles Garrett. So so we now act like the
Seattle Seahawks even exists. The Seattle Seahawks do exist. But
if you really, if you really look back over the
track record that Seattle has had normally after they won
the Super Bowl, they it's all down here from there.
(13:11):
It's all down here from there. They lost it. You
think about this too, they lost Kenned Walker. Kenny Walker essentially,
I'm not going to say he carried that team, but
Kenny Walker, Kennitt Walker not being on the Seattle Seahawks
team last year would have drastically changed how their season ended.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Am I right about that? I agree? Right?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
They have a defense that Davonte Adams had ate up before.
Pookin the coop has ate up before.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Right. I was scared. You see it?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Like like I think the tables have turned. The tables
have turned in that division in less than in less
than you know, an hour. Okay, what about my childhood
team that I love growing up and I still loved
to day, forty nine Ers?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
No chance, damn no chance. Why let me see, let
me see, let me let me check something out. How
what was the forty nine ers record last year versus
versus the Rams? Sure? Twenty five, I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So the forty nine ers won their first meeting twenty six,
twenty three, and then it's the Rams won the second
meeting forty two to twenty six.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So they split it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
The They split with the Rams last year, that's not
happening this year with Mas Garrett and they won by
three points, and it won by three points, and it
won by three points last year in their first meeting.
Like that's not I just I think that the Rams,
I mean, the forty nine ers are what we know
them as.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
They're gonna be a good team.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You know, they're gonna Christian McCaffrey, you left and right,
Christian mccaff for you to you know that, to that
Rock Party comes in, do this and that. But now
Brock Party. And I'm sure if we had them on
the on this call, he would have loved for the
Rams to have Jared Versus rushing at him, then a
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Miles Garrett rushing at him.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
That's true, It's two different perspectives.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
But let's not forget this. Let's not forget this. Trent
Williams is back. Hey, listen, let's not forget this. We're
playing in what we're in the twenty first century. It's
the twenty first century. I don't even know where you
were in, but it's the twenty first century. Listen, Miles Garrett,
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don't Trent Williams. He is a stationary player. He gonna
be on that left side, and that left side only
Miles Garrett put him on the right side. Staying no, no,
but but but but go earn your money, Miles, earn
your money, earn more he is by going against the best.
We don't want, we don't want you to switch and
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all that, even though I understand if.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
To win, you gotta do what you gotta do to win.
But I would love to see that battle. And we
all will, and we all will. We're gonna get some.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
We're gonna get some Miles Garrett Trent Williams matchups. Right,
we had that in Cleveland, Amazing showdowns.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But again, I want Miles to play to his strength
as he should. This is why he played defensive player.
He's a defensive player who's as special as he is
to be able to not be in one spot. He
could be in multiple positions, lined up doing what he
do best. Go and get the football. Like I'm excited
about this. I'm a firm believer. Right when when when
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I was in Jacksonville, after I got released, I came
to Tampa and won Super Bowl. Yeah, I am giving
the Rams to be Super Bowl champion. Yeah that's good year.
I don't doubt it. I'm right there with you. If
that was a bet, I would double it. I'll double
down with you. So I believe Sean mcvannam doing a
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doing a hell of a job. I think so too,
And I think I'm gonna go back on this. I
think Miles Garrett is the missing piece for this team
to get over that.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Hum. No, absolutely, bro, I agree, I agree. Listen.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know he's gonna be coach by coach Chris Shuler, right,
you know a guy with his Shola name.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You know he don't you know? He about to coach
the hell out of him? Yes? Right?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Not not only not only that. You know, this guy
has been with the Los Angeles Rams. Chris Shuler has
been with the Los Angeles Ram from twenty eighteen I'm sorry,
twenty seventeen to twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Like he's earned his way through the rings. That's what
it is. That's what ten years? Yeah, damn near eight years.
He's been there eight years.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, almost ten years, correct, almost ten years, nine years
with the same organization. Right, So, you know he's coach linebackers,
he's coached defensive backs, he's been a past rush coordinator.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I'm sure he's I'm sure he's he's.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Sitting back talking to his wife right now, like honey,
we're gonna be here for even longer.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
There's no way, you know, you bring a guy like
Miles Garrett in and we don't. We don't.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
We're not giving Javan Jared Curse sorry Verse enough credit
as well. He's a he's a great player. He's gonna
add value to the Cleveland Browns team today, right, And
I think Miles is the better player right now at
this point in his career, so he's gonna, you know,
overshine this trade. But Jared Verse could definitely be a
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future Miles Garrett, right, he definitely has the potential to
do that. So it'll be interesting to see how it
works out in Cleveland, and you know, once they figure
out their quarterback situation and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Listen, you heard the first half.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I think I'm gonna take a crazy ass guess. I
think Ad will come up come out of retirement. Right,
He's still young. If you go on this Instagram page,
he works out every single day every day, like he
knew this ship is gonna happen, So be on the
lookout for that. I'm letting y'all know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Let me see.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Ed minimum is thirty five, Aaron Donna is thirty five
years old and guess what, but guess what, he has
to have a play every down, come in, switch in
and out, me meet meet being real, I would play
him on second down and third down. That's it, that's it.
That's it, man. I think that would be so amazing, Bro,
it'll be it'll be crazy to see two of our
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our legends like reunited like this, especially area out of retirement.
You know, Tom McVay spoke holly of Aaron McDonald once
he retired after the Super Bowl. During the Super Bowl.
You know, he was a heartbeat of they team. You know,
Aaron Donald was a part of the Saint Louis Rams, right,
Aaron Donald was you know, he stuck it out, you know,
and he was a generational player on a team that
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found a way to win a championship. So if he
did come out of retirement, Bro, I think it would
be it would mean a lot to him. That probably
mean a lot to my obviously, would mean a lot
to mys Garrett. And again, those odds that we're talking
about with the Rams winning the Division, Rams winning the.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Super Bowl, they continue to go up.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, I wonder what I wonder what I wonder what
a what a ticket yesterday was going for so far
stadium and with a ticket today June first is going
in so far a stadium, Like I like, I really
genuinely wonder, Bro, I I I don't I I don't
know what it what what what that number is. But
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I would assure you there's some season ticket holders that's
calling to to extend, to extend their season tickets for
a couple more years. While Miles Garrett is there, we
talked about uh Verse going to to Cleveland. Obviously we
know it's a quarterback situation going over there.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Do you think you know they always say, you know,
defense winning championships. Yeah, I mean it won't with us,
Oh yeah it does. So you think this is so
you think this is a good fit for him? Yeah? Yeah,
I don't know. You don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, I just told you I felt I felt like
this cinema. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You think?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You think they sent them there to end his career?
It's been real? Yes, you think the Browns that bad? Bro?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You go from like Jack from the Rams to the
brown the Weather. You go from Sonny Cool, you go
from Superstars at the stadium.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
God, he it, bro, God.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
No, it's tough it's tough. No, the Rams went twelve
and five last year. Obviously, I think the Brown's won
like six games a five games, So.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
All right, boom.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Now imagine how his mind says about this, this goover.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It's about it's probably changed.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Maybe maybe he's still young, so he's not compromised by
you know, the ins and outs of what we know
about politics and what we know about the NFL.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
He's not all right. So question what was the Rounds
record his first year? First year?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Twenty first So it's been twenty twenty four season, the
ram was ten and seven. You go, listen, you go
from winning over ten games to now winning five six?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Now would you talk about the.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Browns is three and fourteen and twenty twenty four and
they were five and twelve last year. Listen, listenna, it's
gonna be some adjusting. It's gonna be some adjusting. But again,
during that time, if I'm not mistaken, you know, the
Browns were in top of the league in defensive.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
In defensive rankings.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
However, Jim Schwartz, who was the defensive coordinator there, he's
no longer there because the coaching position passed them by,
which now looking back at all is. You know, it
is kind of strange that you would let Jim Schwartz
leave the building and then trade your best player away
for another future you know, hall of famer perhaps, and
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now we're here. But look on the bright side, you know,
Todd Munkin actually get a chance to you know, spend
some time with a with a with another up and
coming player you know, and you know, future hopefully franchised
player we'll see, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Just no, I'm stressed. I'm stressed. Phone.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, No, I could respect that. I think I think
I could respect that too. But you know, he's young.
I'm gonna keep going back and say that. Being twenty five, bro,
you have no idea yet all of the ins and outs.
You know, he's two years left on his contract technically one,
so he's up for a new deal.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
If i'm him in his min In my mind, bro,
I'm just going ball out.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, I'm going ball out rather than play here in
Cleveland or somewhere else, I'm going ball out. I do say,
and I will say I think that this was a
uh I say, I'll have to say, I think this
was still a.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Win for the Cleveland Brown organization.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
All that they was able to give up with well,
obviously all that they was able to they gave up,
but all that they was able to get in return,
you know, with a first round pick twenty twenty seven.
So if their quarterback situation does not work out this year,
they may have two first round picks next year to
go and get a better quarterback that would then maybe
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elevate their franchise, you know, instantly. So I feel like
they've set themselves up for the future. They drafted well
this year, so it'll be interesting to see how it
all play out and what all these picks turn into.
It may end up at the end of the day
being a hell of a trade for Cleveland Browns, and
we may be patting Andrew Berry on the back, you know,
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in a year or two. Right, So we'll see they
moving into a new stadium soon, the Browns, So you know,
maybe they maybe they trying to get their ducks in order,
you know what I mean to do some.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Things maybe in the AFC. So we'll see how that
pan out. Can we talk about our.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Brother, yes, sir, finally, yes, obj, yes sir. Like I
told you what he has, I called him mister nine.
Lives like he's like a cat like a damn cat. Yes, sir, signing.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
With the New York Giants. Bro, amazing, Bro, I'm so
happy for him.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Dog like it was, it was also like, and I'm
in New York City right now, so it's like, it's
also so surreal being able to go back to your
team where it all started. I remember him leaving New
York and coming to the Browns and being on the
phone with him, and as excited as he was, he
was also disappointed that he had gave us all to
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an organization right and now he thought that he would
be there forever. But now he's traded, so, you know,
as much as it was, it was bittersweet, and he
hasn't been back since, and now he's finally back to
run New York. I got a question, though, Yeah, say
(25:55):
you're in New York. While are you in New York?
Did you know all this don't go down?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Nah? I had that type of inside information. I had
an entire inside information.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
But at the same time, you know, I think it's
a it's a it's great for his career.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Obviously. He would then be joining Devon c Adams as
from the twenty fourteen class Mike Evans as well as
the only two receivers thirty three thirty two to thirty
three years old right playing in today's game, so we
know when league neighbors possibly maybe out for half of
the season.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
The Giants also lost two receivers one two Achilles. You know,
he gone for the rest of the season. You know,
they brought in three four receivers to work out and
they end up signing every last one of them. So
the opportunity is gonna be there. I'm excited. I Knowdell's
gonna be ready. You know, I think they signed Juju
and all that. But yeah, that's that's here and nor there.
(26:51):
You know, not no, no shade the Juju. But you know,
at the end of the day, man get thirteen the ball.
I hope he can get back into thirteen too. Is
anybody wearing thirteen over there right now? Let me see,
I thought the bid receiver that played at Tennessee, Oh,
he got to get that up Jena High. Yeah, my boy,
I ain't gonna lie. You gotta come on out of that.
It would be weird to see my dog get a
(27:13):
different number besides thirteen. You know how many thirteen Jersey's
coming out of the closet, bro, it's about to be crazy, bro.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So question, how would Jackson, Dark and Odell best together? Right?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
We have we have the old stardom, the old starting
with the new startum, Right, O'Dell's used to almost a
pocket quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I think what Eli was all his years there.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Now you're going to a scrambling quarterback who kind of
has his own personality yep, kind of has some right.
How does that work on the field with each other together?
We're gonna find out. I think we know again, as
a young quarterback, you always want to have a safety net,
and most times than not, that's a that's an older receiver,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So being at he had someone like Odell on his team.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
We'll see how Matt Nagy, who is the offensive coordinated there.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
We know he was with the Bears. We know he
spent some time with Andy Reid, so.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
He may get creative, right, But also we know Jim Harball.
He's a guy that runs the ball, plays defense and
special too, right, So we'll see how the balance it happens.
But I think the biggest the biggest thing for me, man,
is if we need to put that ball in the
air based on the weapons we have right now.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It needs to be going up to thirteen period. I mean,
I mean what about Scatabu Scataboo.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I mean again, I think he scatable a great player,
you know, but I don't think he is.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I think he's I think he's tapped at his potential
of what he can be. As of now.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
We have to see what he comes back off off
of the injury, how healthy he can get, how serious
he took his rehab. Right, he's still young player, you know,
he still has to show a little bit more, right,
But I love the energy of the New York Giants.
Like when I watch the New York Giants, it feel
like there was missing that little, other little spark, like
(29:13):
a like an odell, like that other little attitude, you
know what I mean. So it could be a match
made in heaven that if you know, they start winning
some games here early. Let's look at their schedule. If
they start winning some games here early, it could be interesting.
What do you think about that? We'll see, man, we're
gonna see. Yeah, so coach the.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Regime and everything, we'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
So, so week one they're opening up with the Cowboys.
Whoa look, how ironic is that same the same game,
the same against the same team. They're opening up with
the Cowboys. Uh, oh, I lied or lie. They're not
(29:54):
opening up the Cowboys. They're opening up with Yeah they are.
September thirteen at the Giants.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's gonna be insane, and I'm quite sure and the
jumb trying they will. They will be playing at that catch.
They've been playing it, they've been playing it. The following week,
the following week after that they play the Rams, then
the Titans, the Cardinals. In my mind is just you know,
(30:23):
they're gonna lose to the Rams, but yeah, be real,
they're gonna they're gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
To the Rams. But mind they're winning three of the
first four. Right. Then they go play Commanders.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Uh, we'll see what Jaden Daniels is health wise, but
that should should be a good game. You know, it's
not overly favorite to the Commanders anymore. The fifth week
or the six weeks, they play the Saints. I think
that's a dub. Yeah, seventh week they play the Texans.
I don't know, that's a toss up. Third week, November eighth,
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they playing the e Commanders again. The following week Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
That's a win, man.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Honestly, bro, I'm looking I'm looking at their record, and
I'm thinking the Giants definitely have a You know what,
I would love to see the Jacksonville matchup because I
would love to see him versus Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
That'd be interesting. I would love to see that. That'll
be interesting. Who do you think win that matchup? Shit?
You know I'm gonna go OBJ.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, I mean, listen, one thing we was taught don't
go against the grain.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I don't give a down what's going on there with
one league. I'm still going to the OBJ, all right, Listen, listen.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Last time O'Dell played in for the Giants, he played
twelve games in twenty eighteen. He had seventy seven catches,
one thousand and fifty two yards, six touchdowns, so he
missed four games that year.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And then obviously his best season.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
He went for not is which his second season in
the league, which obviously had one of the best rookie
years you know, arguably until Justin Jefferson. But his second
year twenty fifteen, he had ninety six catches, fourteen hundred yards,
thirteen touchdowns, still all his highest all his highest in
his whole career. Okay, we have a hard rock back
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segment right now. Do you New York Giants over or
under seven and a half wins this year? I think
it's over.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I just gave you.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I just gave you six games that I think they're
gonna have potential to win. If not, you know, just
win by lining up, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
I think they're over. I don't think they win the division. Also,
that also depends on what happens in the AJ Brown
situation out in Philadelphia. You know, does he stay, does
he leave? You know, Ken jayla Hurst get it done right?
(32:56):
Like you know, the division, their division is always a
bit a bit of a awesome you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
It always comes down to the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
So but I definitely think they win more than seven
seven games, seven and a half. All right, So we
have another one, Cleveland Browns over under six and a
half this year.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I think it's over. I ready said, you don't know,
I think it's over.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Listen, I know I know a little football, bro, I
know a little football just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I think it's over. And here's why. I think.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Deshaun Watson starts the season they start out. Let's look
at this. Let's look at their record. By the way,
the record will schedule schedule, all right, here we go.
So the Cleveland Browns, that's preseason. Jacksonville, I think it's
a dub. Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Maybe an l L.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, the Panthers out in Carolina, I think that's a dub.
The Pittsburgh that's a dub.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Jets, m hm.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I don't know that Jets wanna be a toss up
because I like the Jets this year. I like what
they did in the draft. I like, you know, I
like it. I like the Jets. That's a toss up.
Baltimore they lose for sure. Tennessee that's a I think
that's a I think Cleveland wins. I think Cleveland wins
that gain. They play Pittsburgh again, I think they win.
I think they sweet Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
New Orleans. I think New Orleans this this this week November.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That November is gonna get tricky because if they have
a quarterback situation going on there, I think that that's
when the switch up happens, because you can't do it
no later than you know, a couple of weeks into November.
Based on like trying to make the playoffs and stuff.
So I think it will be interesting. But I think
they win more than six games. I think they win six. Actually,
I think they so over I'm gonna say over. I'm
(34:53):
still gonna say over. But we'll see. You know, not
having Miles Garrett out there a lot of teams that
pay for him one way.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Now they don't have to prepare for him that way.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You know, I'm sure you played against people, you know,
linebackers where you you know, past protection one week, look
this way, when when he playing past protection the next week,
look a different way. You know what I mean. So
it's that's something that also consider about this. You know,
we answered it earlier, Elie Rams over eleven and a half.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Ah, they win in.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I got I got the I got the Rams winning
the super Bowl playing against your Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And then you say the Kansas City Chiefs was gonna go,
uh yeah the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah all right, casey, Las Vegas Rams in so Far
Stadium this year is the super Bowl is in so Far.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I can't wait because guess what I can't wait. You
know the last time it was there, who won rounds?
But you got understand we were the first team to
win at home. So I ain't. I ain't no feel you.
I feel you. I'm just saying it might be you know,
it might be a script to this after all. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know I knew not in calls, but you know
I had to open my chrome pack, you know, shout
out to my boys. You know, I got mister Randy
Brandy Johnson on here.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
That's my god. Meet people to kill a bird with
a ball.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Listen, but out of all the things, you're gonna see
that there Jesus dog. Come on, Bro, he did Bro
hit he hit the What the ball hit the bird?
It was the bird fault. But you know when you
throw you know, he's a he's a legend. Bro, he's
a og man.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
He's an o G. Can't beat him.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I love it. Okay. They said, nah, they saying no,
hold on, sir, hold on, sir. You say somebody was
talking something about saying something about me and lecture yesterday.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh listen, don't people say don't people said, matter of fact,
I should call it as people said, mister Jarvis Landry,
it's probably the second best wide receiver to come out
of the area. What they said, duke that played at
East Saint John What is number one?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
What I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I'm just saying, Listen, Duke was nasty, right, But ain't
nobody in the Saint James's parish was doing what I
was doing?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
No one. It's no listen, there's no way. There's no
one in.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
That parents that it ate crawfish, drunk kool aid went
to the Ain't not not nail one of them. That's
what I was saying. That's what I was saying. Man,
they should have known that too, bro. But look, you know,
you know how it be. Everybody want to go on
and make their case, make their case, but look at
the numbers, look at the track record. But I was
(37:59):
at dinner when you texted me that, Bro. I almost
jumped up from dinner. I almost jumped up a dinner
and called you because I'm like, who is who is
saying this about a guy that's got more than ninety
touchdowns in his high school career.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That's a lot. You got more than me. Like, who
is saying this ninety? Bro?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I was going you know, Also, you know, I was
playing varsity since eight grade.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I was yeah, chet, how is that.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Cheating of all playing against seniors And I'm thirteen, fourteen
years old.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Listen, when I was in school, just been a freshman player.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I'm just saying, well, listen, that's what that's what you
get with a private education.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
You know, in the public school. We gotta do what
we gotta do. Bro.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
So I was able to get some you know, I mean,
get a little numbers, even won a championship in eighth grade.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
So it's a difference to all and its levels. Bro.
Like Duke was a good player. I'm gonna be honest, but.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Dog, everybody know, even when I went through the plass,
even when I even when I went out there and
played against East Saint John, I just play a pickup
game when my when my boys in reserve. I got
some homies in reserve that I used to play pick
up ball with. Yeah, man, look, they know what's they
know what's up. I argue with you, juice, for a.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Minute, I know what's up. So in other news, Russell
Wilson goes to CBS.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I saw that. I kind of see that coming. I've
seen that coming. You think, so is it? You think
he done? Like you think it's career If I'm him,
you know, I think I think at most they often
to be a backup quarter quarterback as the Jets. Now,
I know he didn't have a good year. I know,
(39:51):
I know he didn't have good years. But we're not
gonna disrespect the man like that, right he personally this
ride off into the sunset.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
You n o c c.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Retire as a seahawking call of the day. Let's wrap
it up, bro, wrap it up man, you think, But
but you think he's like done done, like you think
it's a skill level thing, or you think just people
just don't want to deal with him no more.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Like his antics. Yeah, I think they don't want to
deal with him anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I've seen a couple of things saying that he had
like his own office, you know, at the building, things
like that, which I think is kind of that's what
guys in his cageen does you know.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I know, I know Thomas Brady had his own office.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You know when we go in there and talk talk
about ball and you know, work on our bodies. But
you know, but another thing, if you're not winning, it
plays a whole other part. So I mean, they're only
going to tolerate you until they can't. I mean, we
spoke about this last week, right like where no one
could figure out what happened in Denver, right and and
(41:05):
Justin Simmons brought us a little bit closer to the situation,
and then here in New York something very similar took
place again. Right now, John Harbaugh comes in, day ball
is out. You know, it's a lot of moving pieces.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
They take a quarterback, and when they take a quarterback
that high, you generally know at that point you're not
starting or probably playing ever again, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
So I think Russell is a guy that knows football.
He's gonna be able to go into TV or whatever.
It is very similar to RG three. And I wonder
if he retires though before he actually like commits to anything,
or if he's still gonna be Yeah, because bro, I mean,
(41:48):
if I'm honest, I don't know every quarterback on every team,
but I think there's a job for Russell Wilson somewhere,
like if I'm honest, like if I'm really honest about it,
like you know, and then also a lot happens during
the season. How many how many you know NFL injury rate,
so you know this could be good for him. Man
(42:08):
to kind of take some of the pressure off his
off his back, to be ready to perform, compete, say
the right things in the media and all this stuff,
and actually, you know, talk football with other guys and
and possibly be looking at a job at some somewhere
and anyone else. Funny, it's gonna it's gonna kind of
it's gonna be where saying he's seeing him because he's
(42:29):
not known for having a big personality, you know what
I'm saying. So it's gonna be where it's seeing him.
You know, I want to see how he does. You know,
I can't remember him having this let anthics up, you
know before the game where he just playing and he's
in a huddle acting like you know, as a person
that he's throwing there, he's running, he's so I mean,
maybe he does have that side. Maybe it will shock everyone,
(42:51):
but I'm definitely uh excited to you with both for
him next in his career in football outside of football. Yeah,
do you think do you think that if like, let's
just say, Dak Prescott goes down. Sorry, Jack, Damn, I don't.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I don't like, I don't like saying shit like that.
But do you do you think. I don't like saying
please forgive me, but so so basically you just saying,
if a quarterback at a top team gets hurt, correct,
we ain't gonna say no names a top team that
probably has a shot of probably going to the playoffs,
would he receive a call? Yes, I believe so. I
think so too. I think so, I think so too.
(43:30):
Like I do think this is a good move for
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I think it's it sets him up for, you know,
to be able to prove something in the time of
the year that matters the most, right the playoff time.
And if he does that, you know, he's well. But
to me, he's well, he's back in the league, you
know what I mean. Like, so, it's a good play
by him and his team. I think it's the right move.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
And then you know he also sets his stuff up
to walk off the field whatever that day actually does
fulfilled hisself to walk straight into tv BRO because you.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Know, I think but that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
I think too, though, like to say, the only I
offered a backup quarterback of the debts, why do people
have such a negative feeling towards him?
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Though?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Like on a boondogs. You know what they say, what
did he do to make because that bad? Like, I
don't know, I've always seen him as an elite guy. Yeah, right,
he's older, so maybe he cannot scram with as much,
which makes sense, right, it's understandable.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
But does he does he still have the arm? I
mean I think I think so, Bro.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
I mean, look, look, last last season he played six games.
He completed sixty nine percent of his passes off one
hundred and nine attempts. Well, i'm sorry, fifty eight percent
of his past yet eight hundred yards, three touchdowns. I
think he got benched at some part through this season.
Jameis Winston came in and I'm sorry, this is twenty
twenty yeah, twenty twenty five. I don't I don't know.
(44:59):
I don't know how it's gonna look, Bro, But you know,
the numbers from late day Seattle to now have drastically decreased,
like like we're talking. His last year in Seattle he
had forty two hundred, well, thirty one hundred. Then Denver
he went for thirty five. Then he went for three
three bands, twenty four hundred.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Last year he had eight hundred yards. Like it's you know,
I don't I don't know, I don't know, you know,
and and but.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
And I hate sometimes we judge over six it's six games.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Now, I imagine if you would have played the whole season.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, but we took a first round quarterback. You know,
it's he you know, were just waiting for you to
mess it up kind of, you know. So I think
that for for me, man just looking at it, he's
in a he's in the right he's in the right lane,
he's going about it the right way. I do think
he could still play the game at a high level.
(45:58):
We know that he had, you know, a good coaching
situation in Seattle with that led to a lot of
his success. And since then it's kind of been all
over the place, so you know, and it's and it's
hard for a guy like that.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
And look at Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
We all look at Aaron we don't you know, we
know what Aaron Rodgers was, we know, but it's also
what can you do for us today type of league?
And unfortunately, Aaron Rodgers don't look like the Aaron Rodgers
that we that we that we know, you know, there's
there's some people, there's some receivers there's some things out
there that I'll see people, you know, taking other quarterbacks
(46:33):
over Aaron Rodgers, or are not one to play with
that Aaron Rodgers to play with another quarterback, and it's
to me, it's crazy, you know. So it says a
lot about the system. Obviously, like you said, you mentioned
this too for all the time undefeated. But also I
will ask you we mentioned Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, all
of the guys that all of these guys that played
(46:54):
in the Brady era, I don't think that there would
be one player that would ever say I wouldn't play
with Brady hell no, hell no. The reason why, that's
why he the best ever. I've seen it firsthand and
quite quite frank when me even with me and you,
when we started became even close and close, you had
(47:15):
questions about, man, do y'all do y'all get together and
throw in the summer. I'm like, yeah, we go at
the Yankee. The Yankee stayedum out here in Tampa to
get together.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Go over all.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
You have a three day plan to get back. I
get our memory fresh fresh back with the plays. You
have certain signals that we've been we do with him
and come back for camp first day, It's like we
never lost a step.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
So honestly, when it comes to those three guys, I
don't think anyone is topping TV twelve. Yeah, because look, Bro,
there's been times where I'm on the phone with my
with my mother in the locker room. He grab a phone,
Hey Mom, Yeah, I'm taking Cavin.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
I'm keeping them straight. I'm saying, like, you don't, you don't.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
You don't get people like at that, at that height,
that standing with a personality, how he has and how
he cares for every single person on the team.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
I'm just being real.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Now, I haven't heard I haven't heard that about Aaron
Rodgers or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
I mean Russell Wilson. I did.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
I think he did give his guys like an Airbnb
cars or something like that for Christmas, like a house
or like a like a car, like an Airbnb car,
like they can go anywhere and just us a card
for Airbnb. I'm just saying, man, I.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Don't know damn Airbnb card. Bro, can a nigga watch
give me, give me, let me get up, let me
get some golf clubs.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I'm quite sure. I'm sure over the over the Yeah,
he probably has, you know what I'm saying. But you know, people,
people show what they want you. You know what I'm saying,
But this is this ain't basketball now, Hold up, that's
not SGA going out there and buying motherfucking protect police. Yeah,
but in reality he brought it for let's just say
fifteen people. Right in reality. On offense side of the ball,
(49:03):
you got your old lineman, that's six, You got your
running back, your tight end.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Seven eight, three receivers that's eleven. That's less. You gotta
buy less. Watch this man for you.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
I'm just the mad the mad thing, you know what
I'm saying. Like I feel you, I fear you, I
feel you. Who knows how how this all turns out? Right,
It's a mystery to all of us untold. Obviously a
lot of breaking news today. Will this be the biggest
trade of the summer or will there be another trade
(49:39):
that hit here in the near future.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
We don't know. But guys y'all listening, we know, y'all know.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
So I think I think Miles Garrett will be big
as of now right.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
I truly believe if aj Brown leaves the Eagle.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
And the Antics and the drama they had the I
think somebody's gonna feel the beings about about what really happened.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I don't think it's gonna be pretty mm hmm. The
the missing, the missing, the wedding. That ship is gonna
come out and it's not gonna be nice. And the
head coach there, Coach Nick. I respect him, I love him,
you know what I'm saying. I think it's it's just
too much for him dealing with all those personalities.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
But it's too much.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
I'm just being real now by them having a young
quarterback is jialing in my mind, is still young.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
We had a guy like Thomas and you know, like
older guys like myself to well, we can harness.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Our our own egos and god there and play for
each other. But I don't I don't see that with them.
Appreciate y'all watching for the south Man. We out appreciate it.