October 15, 2024 • 48 mins
BREAKING NFL NEWS: The Jets are acquiring WR Davante Adams following their loss to the Bills on Monday night. He ranks his top 10 NFL teams after week 6. He also talks to Nick Wright from First Things First to find out if Adams fixes any of the Jets issues after they fell to 2-4 on the season
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here we go on a busy, busy Tuesday, suddenly live
in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be
and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us
part of your day. The Jets have officially boy there
they own Tuesdays. They're firing, coaches are making moves. DeVante
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Adams from the Raiders has been traded to the Jets
conditional third round pick. He's expensive. That's what you're gonna
get jamac. Hopefully he can kick too, they need a
kick her. If he can kick and catch passes, they're
in good shape. Trust in stopping the run, that would
be outstanding. They couldn't stop the run last night. Well
you let go of Robert Solo, who's a great defensive coach,
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and suddenly the defense did not look as good as
we think it should be.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Socker Colin.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
All right, so here we go. The New York Jets,
feeling a little desperate, make a move today. I don't
think it's a bad thing. This will eventually turn into
a positive rant for the Jets. But let's start here.
Aaron Rodgers, now with Devonte Adams, has officially gotten everything
he wanted in New York. He got his buddy, Nat
Hacke at the offensive coordinator. He got Randall Cobb, he
got Alan Lazard, he got Dalvin Cook. That didn't work
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something he wanted, Robert Solid fired. We can't confirm that.
And now he's got Davonte Adams. But I said this. Now,
now it's Aaron's team, and Aaron doesn't love taking the blame.
And last night after his interception, listen very carefully to
his words on what happened on that play.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
There's two verticals.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
You know, Alan's down the scene, MIC's down redline. So
I'm looking at Alan. He puts his hand up. Three
guys ago with him, so I'm throwing a no look
to the red line. And when I just peak my
eyes back there, he's run an inbreaker. So it's gotta
be down the red.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Line, all right, gotta be down the red line. Since
leaving Green Bay, Aaron's been living his truth, and the
truth is it's not pretty. The only wins are against
Jacoby Brissett and Will Levis. He was awful against San Francisco,
terrible against Denver, and lowsy against Minnesota. That's the truth.
That's what we continue to see. And Aaron he wanted
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Nat Hackett. So everything he's wanted he's gotten. He's the savior,
and you know, he's remodeling his career. And as he
looks at the Jets house, he realizes the one in
Green Bay left behind. Pretty nice setup. So you know
green Bay for years, Aaron could say, you know, point fingers, frugals,
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small market, no owner, not gonna spend the big bucks. Well, passive,
aggressive shots. Well, now he's in big city New York.
The coaches fired, his buddy's been demoted, Mike Williams to blame.
And now here comes Devonte Adams. So here's another truth.
I looked this up this morning. Aaron Rodgers this season
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after last night is twenty six in complecing percentage and
twenty six in passer rating. And the older a quarterback gets,
the harder you have to work like Tom Brady and
Aaron's off seasons increasingly are a darkness retreat meets Coachella.
That's not good enough. Here is the good news, Hassan Reddick,
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maybe coming, DeVante Adams is coming. If you look at
the Jet schedule, they developed a run game last night.
They started using motion in the offense. Go look at
the Jet schedule. There's a lot of wins. Now, if
you go two to four to start a season, you
only have eleven percent chance to make the playoffs. But
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these are the quarterbacks they face in the next two months.
Justin Fields, Drake May, Anthony Richardson, Gino Smith, Trevor Lawrence
is struggling. They do face Houston at home, and it's
on a short week for the Texans, so maybe that's
a break. So and the other good news is the
Jets last night without Hackett and a new play designer
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and caller, seventy three percent pre staff motion. That is
three times greater than the previous week with Natt Hackett.
So they found a run game. They appear to have
a confidence offensive current coordinator Hassan Reddick, maybe DeVante Adams absolutely,
so I will stick despite that loss last night. Yes, yes,
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Mike Williams slipped. Yes they mixed kicks, so do the Bills.
But I'm gonna stick with my pre in prediction, the
Jets and the Dolphins Buffalo will win this division. The
Jets and the Dolphins will battle in week seventeen and
eighteen for the final playoff spot. Hassan Reddick, Davonte Adams
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looks like a run game capable OC and the Davonte
Adams move beyond that puts Aaron in a good mood.
I think it helps the locker room. The problem when
you go two and four is players bail guys start
pointing fingers. You'd prefer it wasn't your quarterback doing it
last night. But I think Davonte Adams gives them some juice.
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They got some Drake Mays coming up, some Anthony Richardson,
some very winnable games. I do not think the season
is lost for the Jets. I'll get into the game
and the officiating and the Bills in a second, But
Davonte Adams is coming to town. I don't know if
he means I thought the Jets were a nine win
team after last night before they got Davonte Adams with
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a run game. Now their defense isn't is good now
because they lost their defensive coach, they fired him, and
the offense is better now because Aaron's buddy has been demoted.
So last night proving coaching matters. We will see if
Davonte Adams matters. But I think the Jets are going
to get to nine wins with or without Davante. So
the Cowboys were the embarrassment of not only the league,
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but of Jerry Jones. He's owned the franchise since nineteen
eighty nine. They were ambushed, crushed by Detroit. Biggest game
on national TV yesterday and or the day before on Sunday,
and it was the worst loss for Jerry Jones in
his career at home. And that's saying something because the
first year he owned the team, they went one in fifteen.
So Jerry Jones, a very proud man, was embarrassed after
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the game. And this morning he showed up on Dallas
Radio one oh five point three the fan in Dallas,
and I could play about twenty minutes of this stuff.
I'll give you about thirty seconds. It got very contentious
with the hosts.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
There was a lot of criticism that you guys didn't add,
didn't spend, and don't add and don't spend and are
not aggressive enough. Oh I remember those criticisms very well. Okay,
so what are they playing out to be accurate? What's
your point? What's your point? Now? If you think I'm
interested on a phone call with you over a radio
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and sitting here and throwing all the good at with
the dishwater, you have got to be smoking something over
there this morning. This is not your job. Your job
is to let me go over all the reasons that
I did something and I'm sorry that I did it.
That's not your job.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well my job is that ask my job, or.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
I'll get another I'll get somebody else to ask these questions. Man.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
So it's a very proud and embarrassed man with a
lot of ego and vanity. But frankly, Jerry Jones has
gotten in the way of Jerry Jones. Say this out loud,
an eighty two year old owner slash GM slash spokesperson.
Does it sound like it's going to be elite? And
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here's the thing, Cowboy's been fooling a lot of media
and a lot of fans for the last two to
three years because the NFC has been down the last
to or three years. But now Green Bay's young players
are more mature, and Detroit's kind of young players are good,
and Minnesota is a surprise, and Washington's got a star
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quarterback now, and Chicago's got a star quarterback now, and
the NFC is looking like the AFC when Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson and Mahomes kind of broke into the AFC
all of a sudden, you're looking around, going, uh, it's
not the same neighborhood. Now, NFC's good. NFC's got five
of the top ten teams, maybe the six of the
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top ten teams in the league now. In the last
couple of years, the NFC's been down, quarterbacks got old,
Aaron Rodgers goes to the next conference it was down,
and DAK has made a living twenty four and four.
I think it is against the Giants in Washington. Well,
the Giants aren't a put over now in Washington's got
the next Lamar Jackson. So they've been fooling people with
these regular season twelve win campaigns and DAK beating up
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on all the non playoff teams. Those days are over.
NFC now is stacked. San Francisco's good, Green Bay's good,
Minnesota good, Detroit good, Chicago good, Atlanta good, Tampa Bay good.
Philadelphia could be good if they had the right coach. So,
you know, until Jarah realizes Jarah is the problem, nothing's
gonna change here. NFLGM is not a part time gig.
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I know, nflgms you get like two weeks vacation. There's
no yacht time like. It is a sixty hour a
week job. And by the way, some of that bleeds
into the off season seventy hours a week if you're
talking about like draft week, free agency week. Can't have
forty eight businesses. So Jerry got Jimmy Johnson out of there,
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and they don't want to hire a tier one coach
and they don't want to hire a tier one GM.
And so I don't have any tears or empathy for
Jerry Jones. You created this mess. Go ahead and fire
the radio hosts. I mean that's not the answer. Fire
and radio hosts is not the answer. The answer is
get out of your own way. The really smart rich
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guys understand sometimes they don't know everything. They shouldn't be
a spokesperson, a GM an owner, a part time coach.
That's not what he should be doing. So yeah, I
mean that interview got very contentious in what last night
was a game. Now, everybody's blaming the officiating today and
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it was not one of the great officiated games. But
I will say this, in the standalone games Monday night
Sunday night, I have found through the years that the
officials and the league knows everybody's watching, the whole league
is watching, and they make a point of being fairly
strident on things. They want to send messages like do
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not lean in your shoulder to a quarterback, do not
pile on. So there were a couple of quarterback late hit,
unnecessary roughness stuff that I thought were nonsense. One against
the Bills, one against the Jets. I didn't like either
of them. The league in these standalone games, they do
this in the preseason sometimes where they want to send
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messages to the coaching staffs and players. They overcall things.
Now I didn't think those should have been called last night.
They go either way calls, but I do think in
standalone games I have seen this for years. They know
every coach and every defensive coordinator, and every defensive lineman
is watching you pile on to that quarterback hit him
a half second late. They are throwing a flag because
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every coach watched that last night goes into the meeting
today with his players and he shows you those clips
and says, don't do that. So the league has always
done that a little bit, in my opinion, in big
TV standalone games. All right, thoughts on the game last night,
A Nick Sirianni's apologizing the Jets, through a trade third
round pick conditional, have acquired Davonte Adams. So I have
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this team at nine wins, just missing the playoffs, but
in it till week seventeen eighteen. I don't think Davonte
Adams necessarily change anything. I don't think he is what
he was two three years ago. But I will say again,
I think it adds juice. It makes Aaron happy, and
that's Aaron gets dark really quick. I mean, he goes
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dark really fast, and I think this will lift him up.
It'll be positive. The schedule to me, is weak outside
of the Houston game over the next six games, so
not all is lost in New York. Jmack maybe down today.
That's Okay, Jmack maybe down today, but I do think,
and I said this this morning, I had written some
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notes down for the show that were very positive before
the Davonte Adams move. So it's going to take him
a couple of game to get ramped up. You know
you're not gonna walk in this Sunday and dominate the league.
But I do think it's an emotional move, not just
a personnel move that I think when you're two and four,
locker room split. You know, Spio, they always used to
joke about this in baseball. You got twenty five guys,
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you want ten. You got to keep the five that
are undecided from the ten that hate you and the
ten that love you. In a baseball locker room, and
you go into a losing streak, and in the NFL
you go two and five, you're not making the playoffs.
You go two and four, you get eleven percent chance.
The key is do you feel good about your opportunities?
And I think Davante makes you go, hey, we got
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Garrett Wilson, we got Davonte, Frize Hall now running Aaron Rodgers.
I think it lifts the room up.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Well, we'll see about the hamstring injury, you know. I
mean it's been two weeks. Hopefully the hamstring's fine. But Colin,
I'm very surprised that you're giving Aaron Rodgers something of
a pass this morning. Two weeks ago in London, he
was terrible. Okay, six point game, You get the ball.
This is why you add Aaron Rodgers in the offseason
to go win these games. He throw us an interception
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targeting Mike Woods. Last week, he was terrible last night.
Gets the ball, forget the penalties, the Miskicks gets the
ball three minutes left at home. Hey, this is while
we got a superstar quarterback. Drive the field, get us
the points, get us the win. He throws an interception
targeting Mike Williams. So last week Rogers covered it up
by getting Solid fired. I don't care what anybody says.
We know Rogers was involved in that. So how do
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you cover up another Rogers failure? Go get DeVante Adams.
You know he talked to the owner last night. For
sure he had to have Colin. This Aaron Rodgers experiment
is going south very okay.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
People want to defend him, but no, no, I'm back
to Matt failed. I actually think if you if the
Jets were a stock. They are so beaten up today
they're a bye. The Jets are a bye today. Okay,
a total buff fine.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
They should also be four and two, maybe five and one.
That Broncos game again, Rogers couldn't drive the field.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
It was raining.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
The kicker missed.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Fine, but that Nat Hackett was the core.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
He's out.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
If you watched last night, that was like a real
modern NFL offense with motion and stuff, and they ran
the ball. The offense can be fine now.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Well, the blitz Buffalo barely blitzed. You did realize you
did see when they did blitz they sacked him three times.
Jets cannot handle the blitz Vikings. Broncos murdered the Jets
with the blitz last night. A lot of four man rush.
Rogers just okay, I can handle this.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Colin.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You sound a little bit like a fan that's described
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Pittsburgh Steelers you want to see you think they're blitzing
Heighsmith is coming back about her bib.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
One of my favorite bets of the week, the Jets
with DeVante against the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Are you sure DeVante's lying?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh, he'll play, He'll be there.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
The optimist.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
He'll be red zone stuff, but he'll play. Okay, we
got a lot to discuss here. Davante Adams now a jet.
Have I ever been a positive? I mean, what a
joyful human being? I just out there sprinkles on the cupcakes.
It's just everything's good today.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
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The top ten NFL teams according to College number ten.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Tampa Bay Buccaneers four and two. Their offense leads the
NFL with four games over thirty points, and Baker Mayfield,
dating the last year, is humming. A big part of
it is he and Chris Godwin are money together. And
also the run game here is second in the league.
Rashad White, Bucky Irvin, Shawn Tucker. Giving Baker Mayfield a
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run game like any quarterback, is a game changer. Baker Mayfield,
right now, you're gonna get some Pro Bowl votes. He's humming.
The Bucks are their ten, number nine. Atlanta just beat
him barely, so I'll give it Atlanta, who's two and
o on the road I don't think they're quite as
inconsistent defensively, or I should say overall, is an effort team.
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I like Kirk Cousins, been around the league, consistent personality,
two and oh in the road. Their issue is they
don't get to the quarterback. They brought Matthew Judon in
from New England. He hasn't done anything, so they only
have five sacks this year. So I think I think
Atlanta and Tampa are the two best teams. I think
I think Kirk Cousins is such a steady, unemotional ship.
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I'd give them a slight edge. But those two teams
are gonna battle to the end. Carolina Sainterer Toast, they
got both those teams have a million issues. Number eight Buffalo,
they're four to zero against teams under five hundred. They're
a little like the Dallas Cowboys. Can't beat the good teams,
beat the bad teams. And they are twenty one to
five against the AFC East over the last five seasons.
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So it's a little Dallas Cowboys. They can be fools.
Gold I will say the offense is tied for the
second fewest giveaways in the NFL this year, and James
Cooke was out last night. I think they have added
a dimension to their offense. I love their tight end,
Kincaid Dawson knocks, but we gotta be honest. They don't
beat the good team. Kansas City beats the good teams.
Baltimore can beat the good teams. Buffalo's not beating the
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good teams. I put a eight number seven. I may
have the Packers too low again this week. Lead the
NFL and turnover differential Jordan Loves miss two games, He's
second in the league, and touchdown passes. I love this kid,
had my questions early. He's Hummon Dobbs, Christian Watson. They
got three tight ends, I like five different players have
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multiple touchdown receptions. Nobody else in the NFL saying that,
and they lead the NFL with fifty four what they
call big plays. So again this week I have him
probably a spot too low. But they're a young team
and can be a tad inconsistent half to half. But
I have met seven number six. If Joe Mixon plays,
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I think the Texans are a handful. Their only loss
came on the road to the Vikings. They had a stinker.
Everybody gets a stinker. Everybody but the Chiefs gives you
a stinker. Joe Mixon changes CJ. Stroud, Nico Collins out.
They got to get him back. The defense with the
Migo Ryans is excellent. I think this team could get
to the AFC Championship. I don't think they're quite mature
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enough with big game experience to beat a Kansas City.
But if I was Kansas City, I wouldn't want to
play them. I think this team's were really good Texan six,
number five Niners. Now they're not good in the red zone.
My belief is Christian McCaffrey will solve that. But they've
led by ten plus points in five to six games.
They are physical, they're multi dimensional. Because of Shanahan, they
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all seemingly always have a lead. Number two passing offense,
number three rushing offense, and that's without Christian McCaffrey. Also,
Brock Kurdy has been tremendous on third down this year.
You know how much that means to me. I think
the great quarterbacks are third down quarterbacks. Mame's the best
in a long time. I have San Francisco at five,
number four, Ravens at four, number one total offense, number
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one rushing offense. Lamar Jackson is now twenty two and
one against the NFC. I worry about their pass defense
and this is gonna be the big issue with it
team is they're gonna play down even the games they
play well and lead. I worry about them late in games.
But you know, I love me Lamar Jackson and Baltimore.
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I have them at four, number three, But I like
that old line with Detroit that I think can control
the clock and keep their secondary, which is a liability
off the field. Now they got to figure out what
to do with Hutcheson's loss Max Crosby. I mean, the
Raiders just gave out DeVante Adams. Do you give away
Max Crosby and you get more picks. They have an
excellent running back duo, best offensive line. But the schedule
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gets tough. Now three of the next four games Vikings, Packers, Texans.
There's gonna be a couple l's here potentially for the Lions.
Number two Vikings off of bye, they're gonna beat Detroit.
That's my guess. One of my picks of the week.
Off of by, this team's gonna beat Detroit. Detroit's off
a huge win. Feeling themselves only undefeated team in the NFC.
Now again, like Baltimore, my concern is great against the run,
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not great against the pass. I could see this team
go to the playoffs and dominating somebody and leaking oil
on the back end. And that's why I have them
at two, number one, Kansas City, eleven straight wins. They're
you know, I still never know what I'm getting. A
wide receiver is where she Rice coming back? Juju Smith
Schuster can't separate. Xavier Worthies kind of a gadget guy.
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Travis Kelsey can disappear. But best defensive lineman, best defensive coordinator,
best coach, best quarterback, O linees good enough. I think
you know, I'm just gonna take him. Put them here.
I guess they're more vulnerable, I guess, but they get
number one?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
All right?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Nick Wright is now joining me? Live Nick Wright? Anything
about that?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
A couple of weeks ago, online study said that the
hurt hierarchy had become the sort of default ranking system
in America. That's what the polls say. What do you
make of mind?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yet?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Listen of all the traditional some would call it archaic
power ranking systems, yours is the best everyone agrees. Now
you want a true tiers system with a committee and
names they people know where to go to. But for
the old school power rankings is the best. I would
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third straight week. I don't have any real issues. I
would have the Bears in there in place of the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
But that's probably a nine to eleven, right.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
That's what I figured you were gonna say, like that
nine ten eleven. The Bucks like it was two thursdays ago,
But it really looked like the Bucks had that Falcons
game one yep, and then they squandered it at the end.
The Bucks could be sitting here at five and one,
and I mean, don't look now, but MVP. Yeah, Baker
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Mayfield could be coming to an awards ceremony near you.
He's been awesome and and Todd Bowles deserves credit, and
so the Box are a real team. I agree with
the reason I said flip the Falcons and the Bears
is just because of those same concerns about the Falcons
defense that you alluded to. But yeah, otherwise I think
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this really solid power or heard hierarchy once again.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Okay, so I last night I watched the Jets. What
do you know? They fire Sala their best coach on
the staff, and their defense isn't as good. But they
got rid of Hackett, which Sala wanted to, and their
offense ran motion and ran the ball. So if Sala
could have just stayed and they moved or demoted Hackett,
I think they could win the game last night. I
don't think they were as good defensively. So before we
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get to Devonte Adams, I broke this down earlier. There
were four big plays in the second half of this game,
and the Bills made all of them. Taylor Rapp, a
couple of breakups, the amazing interception by Tarron Johnson, which
is an all time play, and then Josh Allen on
third and four running for it doing them the Holmes.
I think he might have just decided I'm gonna run
for it. And those were the four big plays. But
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I did come out of that thinking it's a grown
up offense. They face a lot of mediocre quarterbacks coming up.
I don't think the sky is falling at two and
am I nuts?
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Oh no, you're nuts, You're nuts there I listen. Twenty
four days ago, Aaron Rodgers told the media the next
step for us is to learn expect to win and
learn to dominate. Since then, they lost to Bo Nicks
and the Broncos and were held in single digits. They lost,
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They were down seventeen to nothing, lost to the Vikings,
fired their coach, blew a game to Buffalo Panic, traded
for Devonte Adams.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
This is a bad team.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
And I saw you know colleagues that I respect saying, oh,
today is the fork in the road moment for the Jets,
either the beginning of the end or the end of
the beginning. No, it's not Game thirty two for the
Washington Wizards when they lose to the Hawks is not
a fork in the road moment of the franchise. It's
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just the franchise continuing to be the franchise. I'm forty
years old, Colin. There have been few truisms in my
life in sports.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
One of them is this. The Jets have always been
the Jets.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
They've been poorly run, they have bad ownership, they don't
they're not forward thinking. I had to listen to people
all off season lecture me about how great their weapons are.
And now you've got the quarterback publicly throwing under the boss,
Mike Williams, who they're going to end up trading. I
would assume for ten cents on the dollar because he's
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not on the same page as Rogers. And now DeVante's
there and they're gonna act like that's the problem. The
problem with the Jets, Colin is very very simple. There
are two things. First, one is this, if the ball
is not out within two seconds, they are cooked. Because Rogers,
when it comes out quick, it looks good, it looks sharp,
they look they're on time. But he can't move and
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the line for the sixth straight year can't hold up.
The other problem is this, and this is a real
indictment because Rogers yesterday publicly throwing Mike Williams under the bus. Yeah,
was such an embarrassing moment. He is the anti Patrick Mahomes.
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You give Patrick Mahomes the ball with a chance to
win the game, you trust he is going to go
win the game.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
And after the game, if.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
They don't win, no matter how outrageous it sounds, he's
going to say, that's my fault.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
That was on me.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
I should have handed the ball to NBS Rogers three
weeks ago, chance to beat the Broncos ball in his hands.
They get fourteen yards of offense in terrible weather put
the kicker in a rough Spoty misses the kick last week,
down six, chance to win the game, ball in his hands,
interception throwing to Mike Williams. Last night, ball in his hands,
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down three, chance to win the game. Interception thrown to
Mike Williams. Then a postgame conference where we all but
diagrams the all twenty two explaining.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
How not my fault at all. You're not gonna win
that way.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
They're not a good they don't have enough talent, the
defense isn't good enough, they're not a receiver away.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
So no, I do think you're crazy.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
They're a two win team that's supposed to be a
two win team.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, Well they've beaten Jacoby Brissett and Will Levis,
so you are what your record is and who you've beaten?
Speaker 8 (27:23):
A Yeah, congrats, guys, congrats, you've beaten the two of
the only teams in the league worse than you. And
you're gonna lose to the Steelers. You're gonna beat the
Patriots and then they're gonna be like, well at three
and five, is it over? Then you're gonna lose to
the Texans and we're gonna have to listen to Aaron
Rodgers say to us, I've been in this position before.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
What did I do?
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Then we reeled off all those victories. He's not the
same player. They're not a good team, They're not a
good franchise. He's not the same player.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So I want to talk about Dallas. I have said before,
I have comped them with the Lakers, which is two
insular too many friends of family in the building. As
NFL and NBA have gotten global and smarter and broader,
the Cowboys are the Jones family and the Lakers are
the Bus family. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
You got to bring the best of the best globally
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into your organization. You got to be the Dodgers, or
you got to be Kansas City. You got to bring
outside influences. Different spags read people from different organizations. And
so I look at the Cowboys loss and Jerry this
morning is ripping. He's went on local media on a
radio show and he's ripping the host. It's a circus there,
And I'm like, if Jarah doesn't realize Jara's the problem,
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nothing changes. What do you think the rest of the
year looks like for this franchise and going forward.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Well, Listen, I was more bullish on Dallas than I
think most going into the year, and part of that
was because I was so pessimistic of Philly and I
didn't see Washington popping like this. So I'm like, well,
they're going to win the division because they win twelve
games every year, even this year. If they don't win twelve,
they can win ten or eleven. And I thought the
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lack of a running game concern was a little overwrought.
I thought the run defense concern was a little overwrought.
It's like, there'll be a little worse than were last
year and win ten or eleven games. Right now, the
things that were concerns going into the season have become
not just concerns but massive problems. They can't run the ball,
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which is impacting Dak Prescotti's becoming more turnover prone.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Again because defenses no.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
All you can do to hurt us is throw the
ball and the defense. Four straight games of getting absolutely
rolled at home is an institutional problem. They have allowed
more points in four consecutive home games than any team
in fifty years in the NFL. Just a mortifying spot
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considering prior to that playoff game Colin, the Cowboys had
won sixteen straight home game, James. Now they've lost four
straight and they just get rolled in the first half
of all of them. I still think, because of Dak
and CD and Michael will come back that they are
going to be a respectable team the second half.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Of the year.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
But they clearly have major structural problems, and Jerry's total
refusal this offseason to go spend money seems like it
has put a very hard ceiling on this team. If
you remember, in the offseason, I postulated he wasn't spending
money because.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
He was unsure about Dak.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
This was going to be a proven year for Dak,
and he wanted to see what he could do with
less talented guys before he went out and paid him.
And that made sense to me until days before the season.
He just paid Dak anyway, so they're locked into him.
So I don't know what they're doing, but I don't
think it's a good plan in any direction.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
So Nick Seriani, it was shocking to mean. Can you
imagine Bill Belichick, the late Bill Walsh jousting with fans.
I said, it's like a breakup that's about to happen
and one of the people in the relationship starts getting kooky,
the shaved head, jousting with fans. This a lot of
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people are positive with the Eagles. I think he's cooked here,
I think it's over.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
Yeah, you said, can you imagine Bill Belichick? Can Colin
you run a business in this scenario? Your Jeffrey Loriie
and Logan at the volume is Nick Sirianni. Can you
imagine if after a rough six months or so, Logan
comes to you and is like, I need a week off,
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I need to reset, and you're like, okay, no problem,
and his first day back he shows up with a
shaved head is terrible. That day, once again, it gets
in the YouTube chat, starts streaming at people, and then
when you say we need to have a zoom to
discuss what happened to here, he shows up with his
kids on his lap.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
So you can't yell at him. That's what Siriani did.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Yeah, you wouldn't allow that to happen at a car dealership,
much less the Philadelphia Eagles and American history is very
consistent in one thing. The spontaneous showed up having shaved
your head is not a sign things are going great
as my it doesn't nobody on a winning streak is like,
you know what, I'm gonna shave my head and shock
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everyone and then yell at the customers. The guy's out
of his depth. He's always been out of his depth.
They were able to cover up for it. And there
have been ninety two wins in the NFL this year.
Where would you rank that victory over the Bobgone Cleveland.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Browns eighty ninety ninetieth.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
That is not something you celebrate about. And then the
other part that I found noteworthy was this after the game,
with his kids on his lap as shields from the media,
he was like, oh yeah, players told me to do it.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
I gotta get back to me and myself. I gotta
be fiery.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
That was Sunday, Monday or that yeah Monday yesterday started
his press conference.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
I'm very sorry.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
It turns out maybe my boss didn't love the old
streaming at the customers.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Thing, and I maybe shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
I mean, we know where this train is ending, where
this is ending, and to me, at this point, it's
all it's just inevitable. He's obviously not going to be
their head coach next year. And I think that they
are worse than their three and two records suggests.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
By the way ninety seconds the two minutes left Davonte Adams,
let's circle back to it. I thought it was so
telling that immediately the Jets lost and he called out
Mike Williams. There's always now. The problem is you can't
blame Sola or NTT Hackett, so it's Mike Williams. Do
you think Devonte Adams? You don't think they't he'll make
them better at all?
Speaker 8 (33:51):
Well, no, I think he'll make them marginally better. But
I don't think the Jets are assumed to be thirty
two year old wide receiver coming off a hamstring injury away.
I think that I think that the defense is not
as good as people thought it was going to be.
The pass rush is the defensive front was supposed to
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be excellent, it's been average. The secondary is excellent, but
now it's banged up. The offensive line was supposed to
be good, it's been average at best. Rogers, Colin, have
youer at some point producers do this? Look at post
MVP Aaron Rodgers numbers per game in production for his
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last year in Green Bay and this year in New
York and compare it to Derek Carr in the same timeframe.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
They're identical.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Everyone is acting like, Okay, the Jets are this average
team with average coaching, but they've got this star quarterback. No,
they are a below average team with below average coaching
that has a below average aging curmudgeon lea quarter who
will take none of the blame, who will always let
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you know who's fault it actually was, and is increasingly immobile,
and if he doesn't get the ball out immediately, if
they get in third and long, they are cooked every time.
Last night, if there was one drop, one run that
didn't work, they were done because he wasn't gonna be
able to get the ball out immediately. So do I
think DeVante Adams will help a little bit?
Speaker 7 (35:25):
I do.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Do I think that is enough to turn the Jets,
who look like a six win team and do more
than a seven win team.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
No, I don't.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
The DeVante Adams trade is noteworthy to me because it
means a team like the Bills or the Ravens, who
are actual contenders.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Won't be getting him.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Not because the Jets, who are about to fire everyone
and have the quarterback retire at the end of the
year and start over again, because again I remind America
they're the Jets. No, I don't think he moves the
needle for them significantly.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
First things first, Nick, right as always, fire today, Great
seeing you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
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Speaker 1 (36:09):
Dave wantstat six years as a Bears head coach, five
in Miami, a super Bowl champ with the Cowboys. For
the record, Dave, you never want to be giving up
good players at the trade deadline. That means you're a
bad team. But when you're a good team, what's realistic?
You want to get a guy that doesn't screw with
your chemistry and Amari Cooper I don't think does Did
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you like making moves in season?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Well, you know, the times have changed a little bit
from when we really couldn't make any at least we
couldn't make any for a good player. There were guys
that were cut. You could sign off the waiver wire,
but more likely they wouldn't make much of an impact.
But nowadays, I'll tell you what you talk about, a
shot in the arm for the teams that need a player.
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You know, Devonte Adams, the Jets, obviously Cooper we're talking
now at the Bills. But it's also it kind of
keeps the franchises that are taring don Hey, it gives
him up obviously more ammunition getting ready for the draft,
and it's a little bit of a shot in the
arm for their personnel people too. Hey, this isn't what
we're stuck with. We got draft picks. Now we can
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get better for the future.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
You know you always told me, Dave, I've quoted you
many times. You can lose games, but not the locker room.
After losing that game last night to drop to two
and four, I thought DeVante Adams was a smart signing, Dave,
because it does add some juice. It puts Aaron in
a good mood the locker room. You know, you go
two and four, Dave, you can lose some players. You
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can lose guys. I think Davante gives you hope, does
he not?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Absolutely? I mean, besides his talent. You know, the one
thing people will forget this when Aaron Rodgers was at
the Green Bay Packers, and you know he had Aaron
Jones was the running back and he was really the
lifeline people because of Aaron Rodgers the quarterback. People lose
sight of how they ran the ball with Dylan and
Aaron Jones. They were in the top five in running
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the football and that's what set up all the play
action passes. So last night what the Jets did last
night by coming out and change it. Yeah, you talked
about the motions earlier, absolutely, but guess what, when you
run the ball like they did with Bryce Hall, that's
going to give Aaron Rodgers a chance to do what
he does best with his play action pass. Coming into
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last last night's game calling, they were like twenty third
in the league in number of play action passes with
Aaron Rodgers, they were sixty eight percent drop back and
they were in the top five in the league drop
him back. So besides the motions, they had a little
bit of a philosophy change that's coming. It's going to
get back there. I think a lot more heavier run,
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which will slow down that pass rush and now create
what Aaron does best his play action pass game.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
I said one of the things I don't like about
Fire Sala, who I think is a heck of a
football coach. He may not be a head coach, but
I think they fired the best coach on the staff,
You put an interim coach in, and what happens, Dave
As you know, it's like the substitute teacher syndrome. Everybody
tries to impress the new coach and plays hard and
then all of a sudden, ownerships like, yeah, that's our guy,
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and there was a reason he was a coordinator. I
just think in the AFC, interim coaches aren't beating Andy Reid,
John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, Demiko Ryans. I mean, do you
think the Jets. I mean they may have some juice
now with DeVante, but I mean you faced interim coaches
in your career, did you feel like it was an advantage?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Well, what we saw last night there was a new
burst of energy, you could call it. You know, everybody
was excited about playing. They were at home. That helps
with an opportunity to win the game. So I thought
they had a good plan. I really did, on all
sides of the ball. You know, they missed field goals,
they give up those sacks, had drops. You talk about
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Davonte Adams, you know, I mean it's if you're defending them.
Before last night, the running game was minimal, right, the
running game ever, running for less than four yards of carry,
that's not going to keep you awake at late night.
As a defensive coordinator, you know you got to defend
Garrett Wilson. And last night Mike Williams had the other receiver.
He had three targets. I think he dropped two of them. Collins. Yeah.
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So Davonte Adams is gonna slot right in there. And now,
guess what if I'm defending the Jets right now, I
gotta defend the entire field, both outside wideouts and that
running game. As long as they stay committed to it
to be balanced, that'll make a huge difference in this
football game.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
When you were with the Bears, a lot of that
talent was on defense. I said this yesterday. It's the
first time I can remember my adult life looking at
the Bears and thinking they've got a great franchise quarterback
and some of the best pieces in the league. In fact,
I think their biggest concern is the division. Everybody is stacked.
It is the best of me and easily in football.
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But you live in Chicago, spend a lot of time there.
I don't think it's hyperbolic. I think this team, this
team's good. I mean, if you've been impressed by Caleb,
we're surprised by him.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
And I obviously, you know, I do all their pre
and post game and everything on TV up here, so
I'm up at training camp, I'm at the OTAs.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
And what Caleb does, he has, he's advanced in his
football knowledge years. I mean, at the end of a
game last week, he talked about, well, I didn't want
to take any chances.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
They were saying, you didn't throw the ball down the field. No,
not this week, a week ago, he says, well, I
knew that our defense, you know, was playing real good.
I mean for a rookie quarterback to even be observant
of what's going on big picture, and every throw that
this kid makes, he can explain it to you when
it whether it was good or bad at the end
of the game. So I mean he's he's light years
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ahead of most rookies from a football knowledge standpoint. And
guess what. And yesterday game with game they won, they
had twenty nine runs and twenty nine passes. Yeah, they
were exactly balanced. And when you're doing that with a
young quarterback, and then he ran a little bit, why
did he run because it wasn't third and nine. The
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first two or three weeks of the season, they were
you know, they couldn't run the ball at all. I
mean they were averaging two yards of carry and he
was in third and long. Every series. They were having
six eight ten penalties a game. They had two. They
had two against Jacksonville. So they played clean, they played balanced,
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and it helped him. I mean it took a lot
of pressure off of him.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, so Nick Sirianni shaved his head, yelling at fans
kids at the podium. I mean when you as a
former coach who was in big cities like Chicago, like Dallas,
what do you make of that when you saw him
jousting with fans.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
You know what, A long time ago, when I just
got into the business, one of my head coaches said
when I was in college, he says, never show a
crack in the armor. Never show the media, never show
the fans, Never show your players a crack in the armor.
And when I saw that, I said that to me,
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I'm observing a major crack in the armor at Philadelphia. Yeah,
it's you're not going to win that one calling.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, that's really bad. Okay, So Jerry Jones this morning,
he got all worked up. So you've seen happy Jerry.
You've seen the prideful Jerry. Have you ever heard him
like that? I mean that that was I mean even
the one in fifteen year. He wasn't worked up like that?
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Was he?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
No, you're talking about a crack in the armor. If
we could be talking about every No, what I gotta
say this the one in fifteen year and I had
texted Jimmyson stuff early week. I mean, it's hard to
believe because we were like starting from grind level, okay,
and how this happened is mind bottling. I gotta tell
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a story. We would keep I had a stack of
defensive playbooks calling in my defensive office, and these players
would work out. Tuesday. Jimmy would bring these guys in
and he'd send a personnel guy to walk three guys
down my office and say, well, uh, here's your two
new linebackers and a new safety or two new lives.
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I'd say, okay, guys, here's your playbook. So we were
rowing guys in. I'm just and then we would play
them on Sunday. And one time there was a way
we ran a tight end. We had signed a new
linebacker and the guy they caught a ten yard pass
and then maybe a twenty and Jimmy clicks the head
so on he says, hey, Dave, we're going to stop
that route. I said, Jimmy, I'm gonna be awesot with you.
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I never got a chance to explain that route to
the guy. He showed up in my office Thursday. The
guy had one day of practice and uh so, so
what I the point is when I see what's going
on now with a team that had won, brought twelve
games a year, and Jerry said, you know, everything is fine.
We're all in. It's a little bit mind bottling. And
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you know, Jerry always puts a spin on things. I
don't care what he's talking about. He's going to give
you the half the glasses half full talk. We've all
heard it and he's fabulous at that. That's what he does, right.
This was one of the first times where I think
these players and they know where the buck stops. You
got a lane lane duck coach there. You know, Jerry's
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gonna make the personnel. Jerry, everybody knows in that organization
where the buck stops, right, and when players and coaches
here Jerry not really having an answer, Yeah, not really
having an answer. In my opinion, that's not good. I
mean that that's gonna kind of put everybody back on
their heels. Even more so as far as the football
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team moving forward, we're are we going now? It's it's tough.
It's really a tough situation. And I don't know what's
going to spark at the turn of the rock. I
really don't at this point.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, the NFC, as you well know, coach just the
NFC North, Vikings, Packers, Lions, Bears, those are all potential
playoff teams. So the NFC had a couple of down years.
I mean, Dallas made a lot of hay against an
awful Washington team. Well they're not bad anymore. And even
even when you whatever you think about Daniel Jones, when
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Malik Neighbors is healthy, the Giants are a tough out.
They went up to Seattle in one So I think
I think there was a little fool's gold where they
were winning twelve regular season games and the NFC was down.
But now that Chicago and Washington have hit on quarterbacks,
brock perty San Francisco's hit on the quarterback is there
if I said to you, Kansas City's the best team
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in the league. Who's the second best team? To you?
Who wouldn't you want to face second best team after
the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Detroit. I think Detroit just from the standpoint that you know,
Jared Goff. I mean, they've got receivers, they've got a
good defense, and I know that the injury thing is
I hate to even talk about that with Hutch, but
Detroit is the type of team that will knock you
on your knees and they're not going to back off,
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you know, and they'll make enough they'll score enough points
to beat you. Yeah, but I think Detroit is a
team that would would really concern me because of the run,
the past, the defense, everything.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, they can be clever, they can do trick plays,
they can be flashy, and they can be physical. And
I know you love that run game.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Hey, hey, Colin, last year in the playoff game against
San Francisco, would they have a seventeen point leader whatever
it was, No, they would have had if he kicks
the field goal. He could have run quarterback sneaks every
play the second half and won that game. San Francisco
wouldn't be able to catch him. If he kicked the
field goal. So I think Dan Campbell's learned a lot.
As long as he makes keeps making good the fourth
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down decisions, the fake's decisions, fake punt, field goals, you know,
those type of things can catch up with you as
we get down the road. As long as he keeps
those decisions clean like he's doing now, that's gonna that's
gonna help his team one hundred percent. I think they're
gonna be better than last year.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Uh Dave wonstat as owas coach, great senior, appreciate it
Speaker 3 (48:25):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here we go on a busy, busy Tuesday, suddenly live
in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be
and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us
part of your day. The Jets have officially boy there
they own Tuesdays. They're firing, coaches are making moves. DeVante
(00:47):
Adams from the Raiders has been traded to the Jets
conditional third round pick. He's expensive. That's what you're gonna
get jamac. Hopefully he can kick too, they need a
kick her. If he can kick and catch passes, they're
in good shape. Trust in stopping the run, that would
be outstanding. They couldn't stop the run last night. Well
you let go of Robert Solo, who's a great defensive coach,
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and suddenly the defense did not look as good as
we think it should be.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Socker Colin.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
All right, so here we go. The New York Jets,
feeling a little desperate, make a move today. I don't
think it's a bad thing. This will eventually turn into
a positive rant for the Jets. But let's start here.
Aaron Rodgers, now with Devonte Adams, has officially gotten everything
he wanted in New York. He got his buddy, Nat
Hacke at the offensive coordinator. He got Randall Cobb, he
got Alan Lazard, he got Dalvin Cook. That didn't work
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something he wanted, Robert Solid fired. We can't confirm that.
And now he's got Davonte Adams. But I said this. Now,
now it's Aaron's team, and Aaron doesn't love taking the blame.
And last night after his interception, listen very carefully to
his words on what happened on that play.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
There's two verticals.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
You know, Alan's down the scene, MIC's down redline. So
I'm looking at Alan. He puts his hand up. Three
guys ago with him, so I'm throwing a no look
to the red line. And when I just peak my
eyes back there, he's run an inbreaker. So it's gotta
be down the red.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Line, all right, gotta be down the red line. Since
leaving Green Bay, Aaron's been living his truth, and the
truth is it's not pretty. The only wins are against
Jacoby Brissett and Will Levis. He was awful against San Francisco,
terrible against Denver, and lowsy against Minnesota. That's the truth.
That's what we continue to see. And Aaron he wanted
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Nat Hackett. So everything he's wanted he's gotten. He's the savior,
and you know, he's remodeling his career. And as he
looks at the Jets house, he realizes the one in
Green Bay left behind. Pretty nice setup. So you know
green Bay for years, Aaron could say, you know, point fingers, frugals,
(03:03):
small market, no owner, not gonna spend the big bucks. Well, passive,
aggressive shots. Well, now he's in big city New York.
The coaches fired, his buddy's been demoted, Mike Williams to blame.
And now here comes Devonte Adams. So here's another truth.
I looked this up this morning. Aaron Rodgers this season
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after last night is twenty six in complecing percentage and
twenty six in passer rating. And the older a quarterback gets,
the harder you have to work like Tom Brady and
Aaron's off seasons increasingly are a darkness retreat meets Coachella.
That's not good enough. Here is the good news, Hassan Reddick,
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maybe coming, DeVante Adams is coming. If you look at
the Jet schedule, they developed a run game last night.
They started using motion in the offense. Go look at
the Jet schedule. There's a lot of wins. Now, if
you go two to four to start a season, you
only have eleven percent chance to make the playoffs. But
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these are the quarterbacks they face in the next two months.
Justin Fields, Drake May, Anthony Richardson, Gino Smith, Trevor Lawrence
is struggling. They do face Houston at home, and it's
on a short week for the Texans, so maybe that's
a break. So and the other good news is the
Jets last night without Hackett and a new play designer
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and caller, seventy three percent pre staff motion. That is
three times greater than the previous week with Natt Hackett.
So they found a run game. They appear to have
a confidence offensive current coordinator Hassan Reddick, maybe DeVante Adams absolutely,
so I will stick despite that loss last night. Yes, yes,
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Mike Williams slipped. Yes they mixed kicks, so do the Bills.
But I'm gonna stick with my pre in prediction, the
Jets and the Dolphins Buffalo will win this division. The
Jets and the Dolphins will battle in week seventeen and
eighteen for the final playoff spot. Hassan Reddick, Davonte Adams
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looks like a run game capable OC and the Davonte
Adams move beyond that puts Aaron in a good mood.
I think it helps the locker room. The problem when
you go two and four is players bail guys start
pointing fingers. You'd prefer it wasn't your quarterback doing it
last night. But I think Davonte Adams gives them some juice.
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They got some Drake Mays coming up, some Anthony Richardson,
some very winnable games. I do not think the season
is lost for the Jets. I'll get into the game
and the officiating and the Bills in a second, But
Davonte Adams is coming to town. I don't know if
he means I thought the Jets were a nine win
team after last night before they got Davonte Adams with
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a run game. Now their defense isn't is good now
because they lost their defensive coach, they fired him, and
the offense is better now because Aaron's buddy has been demoted.
So last night proving coaching matters. We will see if
Davonte Adams matters. But I think the Jets are going
to get to nine wins with or without Davante. So
the Cowboys were the embarrassment of not only the league,
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but of Jerry Jones. He's owned the franchise since nineteen
eighty nine. They were ambushed, crushed by Detroit. Biggest game
on national TV yesterday and or the day before on Sunday,
and it was the worst loss for Jerry Jones in
his career at home. And that's saying something because the
first year he owned the team, they went one in fifteen.
So Jerry Jones, a very proud man, was embarrassed after
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the game. And this morning he showed up on Dallas
Radio one oh five point three the fan in Dallas,
and I could play about twenty minutes of this stuff.
I'll give you about thirty seconds. It got very contentious
with the hosts.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
There was a lot of criticism that you guys didn't add,
didn't spend, and don't add and don't spend and are
not aggressive enough. Oh I remember those criticisms very well. Okay,
so what are they playing out to be accurate? What's
your point? What's your point? Now? If you think I'm
interested on a phone call with you over a radio
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and sitting here and throwing all the good at with
the dishwater, you have got to be smoking something over
there this morning. This is not your job. Your job
is to let me go over all the reasons that
I did something and I'm sorry that I did it.
That's not your job.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well my job is that ask my job, or.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
I'll get another I'll get somebody else to ask these questions. Man.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
So it's a very proud and embarrassed man with a
lot of ego and vanity. But frankly, Jerry Jones has
gotten in the way of Jerry Jones. Say this out loud,
an eighty two year old owner slash GM slash spokesperson.
Does it sound like it's going to be elite? And
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here's the thing, Cowboy's been fooling a lot of media
and a lot of fans for the last two to
three years because the NFC has been down the last
to or three years. But now Green Bay's young players
are more mature, and Detroit's kind of young players are good,
and Minnesota is a surprise, and Washington's got a star
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quarterback now, and Chicago's got a star quarterback now, and
the NFC is looking like the AFC when Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson and Mahomes kind of broke into the AFC
all of a sudden, you're looking around, going, uh, it's
not the same neighborhood. Now, NFC's good. NFC's got five
of the top ten teams, maybe the six of the
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top ten teams in the league now. In the last
couple of years, the NFC's been down, quarterbacks got old,
Aaron Rodgers goes to the next conference it was down,
and DAK has made a living twenty four and four.
I think it is against the Giants in Washington. Well,
the Giants aren't a put over now in Washington's got
the next Lamar Jackson. So they've been fooling people with
these regular season twelve win campaigns and DAK beating up
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on all the non playoff teams. Those days are over.
NFC now is stacked. San Francisco's good, Green Bay's good,
Minnesota good, Detroit good, Chicago good, Atlanta good, Tampa Bay good.
Philadelphia could be good if they had the right coach. So,
you know, until Jarah realizes Jarah is the problem, nothing's
gonna change here. NFLGM is not a part time gig.
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I know, nflgms you get like two weeks vacation. There's
no yacht time like. It is a sixty hour a
week job. And by the way, some of that bleeds
into the off season seventy hours a week if you're
talking about like draft week, free agency week. Can't have
forty eight businesses. So Jerry got Jimmy Johnson out of there,
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and they don't want to hire a tier one coach
and they don't want to hire a tier one GM.
And so I don't have any tears or empathy for
Jerry Jones. You created this mess. Go ahead and fire
the radio hosts. I mean that's not the answer. Fire
and radio hosts is not the answer. The answer is
get out of your own way. The really smart rich
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guys understand sometimes they don't know everything. They shouldn't be
a spokesperson, a GM an owner, a part time coach.
That's not what he should be doing. So yeah, I
mean that interview got very contentious in what last night
was a game. Now, everybody's blaming the officiating today and
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it was not one of the great officiated games. But
I will say this, in the standalone games Monday night
Sunday night, I have found through the years that the
officials and the league knows everybody's watching, the whole league
is watching, and they make a point of being fairly
strident on things. They want to send messages like do
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not lean in your shoulder to a quarterback, do not
pile on. So there were a couple of quarterback late hit,
unnecessary roughness stuff that I thought were nonsense. One against
the Bills, one against the Jets. I didn't like either
of them. The league in these standalone games, they do
this in the preseason sometimes where they want to send
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messages to the coaching staffs and players. They overcall things.
Now I didn't think those should have been called last night.
They go either way calls, but I do think in
standalone games I have seen this for years. They know
every coach and every defensive coordinator, and every defensive lineman
is watching you pile on to that quarterback hit him
a half second late. They are throwing a flag because
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every coach watched that last night goes into the meeting
today with his players and he shows you those clips
and says, don't do that. So the league has always
done that a little bit, in my opinion, in big
TV standalone games. All right, thoughts on the game last night,
A Nick Sirianni's apologizing the Jets, through a trade third
round pick conditional, have acquired Davonte Adams. So I have
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this team at nine wins, just missing the playoffs, but
in it till week seventeen eighteen. I don't think Davonte
Adams necessarily change anything. I don't think he is what
he was two three years ago. But I will say again,
I think it adds juice. It makes Aaron happy, and
that's Aaron gets dark really quick. I mean, he goes
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dark really fast, and I think this will lift him up.
It'll be positive. The schedule to me, is weak outside
of the Houston game over the next six games, so
not all is lost in New York. Jmack maybe down today.
That's Okay, Jmack maybe down today, but I do think,
and I said this this morning, I had written some
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notes down for the show that were very positive before
the Davonte Adams move. So it's going to take him
a couple of game to get ramped up. You know
you're not gonna walk in this Sunday and dominate the league.
But I do think it's an emotional move, not just
a personnel move that I think when you're two and four,
locker room split. You know, Spio, they always used to
joke about this in baseball. You got twenty five guys,
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you want ten. You got to keep the five that
are undecided from the ten that hate you and the
ten that love you. In a baseball locker room, and
you go into a losing streak, and in the NFL
you go two and five, you're not making the playoffs.
You go two and four, you get eleven percent chance.
The key is do you feel good about your opportunities?
And I think Davante makes you go, hey, we got
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Garrett Wilson, we got Davonte, Frize Hall now running Aaron Rodgers.
I think it lifts the room up.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Well, we'll see about the hamstring injury, you know. I
mean it's been two weeks. Hopefully the hamstring's fine. But Colin,
I'm very surprised that you're giving Aaron Rodgers something of
a pass this morning. Two weeks ago in London, he
was terrible. Okay, six point game, You get the ball.
This is why you add Aaron Rodgers in the offseason
to go win these games. He throw us an interception
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targeting Mike Woods. Last week, he was terrible last night.
Gets the ball, forget the penalties, the Miskicks gets the
ball three minutes left at home. Hey, this is while
we got a superstar quarterback. Drive the field, get us
the points, get us the win. He throws an interception
targeting Mike Williams. So last week Rogers covered it up
by getting Solid fired. I don't care what anybody says.
We know Rogers was involved in that. So how do
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you cover up another Rogers failure? Go get DeVante Adams.
You know he talked to the owner last night. For
sure he had to have Colin. This Aaron Rodgers experiment
is going south very okay.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
People want to defend him, but no, no, I'm back
to Matt failed. I actually think if you if the
Jets were a stock. They are so beaten up today
they're a bye. The Jets are a bye today. Okay,
a total buff fine.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
They should also be four and two, maybe five and one.
That Broncos game again, Rogers couldn't drive the field.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
It was raining.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
The kicker missed.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Fine, but that Nat Hackett was the core.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
He's out.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
If you watched last night, that was like a real
modern NFL offense with motion and stuff, and they ran
the ball. The offense can be fine now.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Well, the blitz Buffalo barely blitzed. You did realize you
did see when they did blitz they sacked him three times.
Jets cannot handle the blitz Vikings. Broncos murdered the Jets
with the blitz last night. A lot of four man rush.
Rogers just okay, I can handle this.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Colin.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You sound a little bit like a fan that's described
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Pittsburgh Steelers you want to see you think they're blitzing
Heighsmith is coming back about her bib.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
One of my favorite bets of the week, the Jets
with DeVante against the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Are you sure DeVante's lying?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh, he'll play, He'll be there.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
The optimist.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
He'll be red zone stuff, but he'll play. Okay, we
got a lot to discuss here. Davante Adams now a jet.
Have I ever been a positive? I mean, what a
joyful human being? I just out there sprinkles on the cupcakes.
It's just everything's good today.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
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FS one and the iHeartRadio app heard Hierarchy No Go.
The top ten NFL teams according to College number ten.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Tampa Bay Buccaneers four and two. Their offense leads the
NFL with four games over thirty points, and Baker Mayfield,
dating the last year, is humming. A big part of
it is he and Chris Godwin are money together. And
also the run game here is second in the league.
Rashad White, Bucky Irvin, Shawn Tucker. Giving Baker Mayfield a
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run game like any quarterback, is a game changer. Baker Mayfield,
right now, you're gonna get some Pro Bowl votes. He's humming.
The Bucks are their ten, number nine. Atlanta just beat
him barely, so I'll give it Atlanta, who's two and
o on the road I don't think they're quite as
inconsistent defensively, or I should say overall, is an effort team.
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I like Kirk Cousins, been around the league, consistent personality,
two and oh in the road. Their issue is they
don't get to the quarterback. They brought Matthew Judon in
from New England. He hasn't done anything, so they only
have five sacks this year. So I think I think
Atlanta and Tampa are the two best teams. I think
I think Kirk Cousins is such a steady, unemotional ship.
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I'd give them a slight edge. But those two teams
are gonna battle to the end. Carolina Sainterer Toast, they
got both those teams have a million issues. Number eight Buffalo,
they're four to zero against teams under five hundred. They're
a little like the Dallas Cowboys. Can't beat the good teams,
beat the bad teams. And they are twenty one to
five against the AFC East over the last five seasons.
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So it's a little Dallas Cowboys. They can be fools.
Gold I will say the offense is tied for the
second fewest giveaways in the NFL this year, and James
Cooke was out last night. I think they have added
a dimension to their offense. I love their tight end,
Kincaid Dawson knocks, but we gotta be honest. They don't
beat the good team. Kansas City beats the good teams.
Baltimore can beat the good teams. Buffalo's not beating the
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good teams. I put a eight number seven. I may
have the Packers too low again this week. Lead the
NFL and turnover differential Jordan Loves miss two games, He's
second in the league, and touchdown passes. I love this kid,
had my questions early. He's Hummon Dobbs, Christian Watson. They
got three tight ends, I like five different players have
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multiple touchdown receptions. Nobody else in the NFL saying that,
and they lead the NFL with fifty four what they
call big plays. So again this week I have him
probably a spot too low. But they're a young team
and can be a tad inconsistent half to half. But
I have met seven number six. If Joe Mixon plays,
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I think the Texans are a handful. Their only loss
came on the road to the Vikings. They had a stinker.
Everybody gets a stinker. Everybody but the Chiefs gives you
a stinker. Joe Mixon changes CJ. Stroud, Nico Collins out.
They got to get him back. The defense with the
Migo Ryans is excellent. I think this team could get
to the AFC Championship. I don't think they're quite mature
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enough with big game experience to beat a Kansas City.
But if I was Kansas City, I wouldn't want to
play them. I think this team's were really good Texan six,
number five Niners. Now they're not good in the red zone.
My belief is Christian McCaffrey will solve that. But they've
led by ten plus points in five to six games.
They are physical, they're multi dimensional. Because of Shanahan, they
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all seemingly always have a lead. Number two passing offense,
number three rushing offense, and that's without Christian McCaffrey. Also,
Brock Kurdy has been tremendous on third down this year.
You know how much that means to me. I think
the great quarterbacks are third down quarterbacks. Mame's the best
in a long time. I have San Francisco at five,
number four, Ravens at four, number one total offense, number
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one rushing offense. Lamar Jackson is now twenty two and
one against the NFC. I worry about their pass defense
and this is gonna be the big issue with it
team is they're gonna play down even the games they
play well and lead. I worry about them late in games.
But you know, I love me Lamar Jackson and Baltimore.
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I have them at four, number three, But I like
that old line with Detroit that I think can control
the clock and keep their secondary, which is a liability
off the field. Now they got to figure out what
to do with Hutcheson's loss Max Crosby. I mean, the
Raiders just gave out DeVante Adams. Do you give away
Max Crosby and you get more picks. They have an
excellent running back duo, best offensive line. But the schedule
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gets tough. Now three of the next four games Vikings, Packers, Texans.
There's gonna be a couple l's here potentially for the Lions.
Number two Vikings off of bye, they're gonna beat Detroit.
That's my guess. One of my picks of the week.
Off of by, this team's gonna beat Detroit. Detroit's off
a huge win. Feeling themselves only undefeated team in the NFC.
Now again, like Baltimore, my concern is great against the run,
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not great against the pass. I could see this team
go to the playoffs and dominating somebody and leaking oil
on the back end. And that's why I have them
at two, number one, Kansas City, eleven straight wins. They're
you know, I still never know what I'm getting. A
wide receiver is where she Rice coming back? Juju Smith
Schuster can't separate. Xavier Worthies kind of a gadget guy.
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Travis Kelsey can disappear. But best defensive lineman, best defensive coordinator,
best coach, best quarterback, O linees good enough. I think
you know, I'm just gonna take him. Put them here.
I guess they're more vulnerable, I guess, but they get
number one?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
All right?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Nick Wright is now joining me? Live Nick Wright? Anything
about that?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
A couple of weeks ago, online study said that the
hurt hierarchy had become the sort of default ranking system
in America. That's what the polls say. What do you
make of mind?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yet?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Listen of all the traditional some would call it archaic
power ranking systems, yours is the best everyone agrees. Now
you want a true tiers system with a committee and
names they people know where to go to. But for
the old school power rankings is the best. I would
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third straight week. I don't have any real issues. I
would have the Bears in there in place of the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
But that's probably a nine to eleven, right.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
That's what I figured you were gonna say, like that
nine ten eleven. The Bucks like it was two thursdays ago,
But it really looked like the Bucks had that Falcons
game one yep, and then they squandered it at the end.
The Bucks could be sitting here at five and one,
and I mean, don't look now, but MVP. Yeah, Baker
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Mayfield could be coming to an awards ceremony near you.
He's been awesome and and Todd Bowles deserves credit, and
so the Box are a real team. I agree with
the reason I said flip the Falcons and the Bears
is just because of those same concerns about the Falcons
defense that you alluded to. But yeah, otherwise I think
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this really solid power or heard hierarchy once again.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Okay, so I last night I watched the Jets. What
do you know? They fire Sala their best coach on
the staff, and their defense isn't as good. But they
got rid of Hackett, which Sala wanted to, and their
offense ran motion and ran the ball. So if Sala
could have just stayed and they moved or demoted Hackett,
I think they could win the game last night. I
don't think they were as good defensively. So before we
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get to Devonte Adams, I broke this down earlier. There
were four big plays in the second half of this game,
and the Bills made all of them. Taylor Rapp, a
couple of breakups, the amazing interception by Tarron Johnson, which
is an all time play, and then Josh Allen on
third and four running for it doing them the Holmes.
I think he might have just decided I'm gonna run
for it. And those were the four big plays. But
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I did come out of that thinking it's a grown
up offense. They face a lot of mediocre quarterbacks coming up.
I don't think the sky is falling at two and
am I nuts?
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Oh no, you're nuts, You're nuts there I listen. Twenty
four days ago, Aaron Rodgers told the media the next
step for us is to learn expect to win and
learn to dominate. Since then, they lost to Bo Nicks
and the Broncos and were held in single digits. They lost,
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They were down seventeen to nothing, lost to the Vikings,
fired their coach, blew a game to Buffalo Panic, traded
for Devonte Adams.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
This is a bad team.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
And I saw you know colleagues that I respect saying, oh,
today is the fork in the road moment for the Jets,
either the beginning of the end or the end of
the beginning. No, it's not Game thirty two for the
Washington Wizards when they lose to the Hawks is not
a fork in the road moment of the franchise. It's
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just the franchise continuing to be the franchise. I'm forty
years old, Colin. There have been few truisms in my
life in sports.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
One of them is this. The Jets have always been
the Jets.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
They've been poorly run, they have bad ownership, they don't
they're not forward thinking. I had to listen to people
all off season lecture me about how great their weapons are.
And now you've got the quarterback publicly throwing under the boss,
Mike Williams, who they're going to end up trading. I
would assume for ten cents on the dollar because he's
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not on the same page as Rogers. And now DeVante's
there and they're gonna act like that's the problem. The
problem with the Jets, Colin is very very simple. There
are two things. First, one is this, if the ball
is not out within two seconds, they are cooked. Because Rogers,
when it comes out quick, it looks good, it looks sharp,
they look they're on time. But he can't move and
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the line for the sixth straight year can't hold up.
The other problem is this, and this is a real
indictment because Rogers yesterday publicly throwing Mike Williams under the bus. Yeah,
was such an embarrassing moment. He is the anti Patrick Mahomes.
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You give Patrick Mahomes the ball with a chance to
win the game, you trust he is going to go
win the game.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
And after the game, if.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
They don't win, no matter how outrageous it sounds, he's
going to say, that's my fault.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
That was on me.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
I should have handed the ball to NBS Rogers three
weeks ago, chance to beat the Broncos ball in his hands.
They get fourteen yards of offense in terrible weather put
the kicker in a rough Spoty misses the kick last week,
down six, chance to win the game, ball in his hands,
interception throwing to Mike Williams. Last night, ball in his hands,
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down three, chance to win the game. Interception thrown to
Mike Williams. Then a postgame conference where we all but
diagrams the all twenty two explaining.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
How not my fault at all. You're not gonna win
that way.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
They're not a good they don't have enough talent, the
defense isn't good enough, they're not a receiver away.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
So no, I do think you're crazy.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
They're a two win team that's supposed to be a
two win team.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, Well they've beaten Jacoby Brissett and Will Levis,
so you are what your record is and who you've beaten?
Speaker 8 (27:23):
A Yeah, congrats, guys, congrats, you've beaten the two of
the only teams in the league worse than you. And
you're gonna lose to the Steelers. You're gonna beat the
Patriots and then they're gonna be like, well at three
and five, is it over? Then you're gonna lose to
the Texans and we're gonna have to listen to Aaron
Rodgers say to us, I've been in this position before.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
What did I do?
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Then we reeled off all those victories. He's not the
same player. They're not a good team, They're not a
good franchise. He's not the same player.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So I want to talk about Dallas. I have said before,
I have comped them with the Lakers, which is two
insular too many friends of family in the building. As
NFL and NBA have gotten global and smarter and broader,
the Cowboys are the Jones family and the Lakers are
the Bus family. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
You got to bring the best of the best globally
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into your organization. You got to be the Dodgers, or
you got to be Kansas City. You got to bring
outside influences. Different spags read people from different organizations. And
so I look at the Cowboys loss and Jerry this
morning is ripping. He's went on local media on a
radio show and he's ripping the host. It's a circus there,
And I'm like, if Jarah doesn't realize Jara's the problem,
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nothing changes. What do you think the rest of the
year looks like for this franchise and going forward.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Well, Listen, I was more bullish on Dallas than I
think most going into the year, and part of that
was because I was so pessimistic of Philly and I
didn't see Washington popping like this. So I'm like, well,
they're going to win the division because they win twelve
games every year, even this year. If they don't win twelve,
they can win ten or eleven. And I thought the
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lack of a running game concern was a little overwrought.
I thought the run defense concern was a little overwrought.
It's like, there'll be a little worse than were last
year and win ten or eleven games. Right now, the
things that were concerns going into the season have become
not just concerns but massive problems. They can't run the ball,
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which is impacting Dak Prescotti's becoming more turnover prone.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Again because defenses no.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
All you can do to hurt us is throw the
ball and the defense. Four straight games of getting absolutely
rolled at home is an institutional problem. They have allowed
more points in four consecutive home games than any team
in fifty years in the NFL. Just a mortifying spot
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considering prior to that playoff game Colin, the Cowboys had
won sixteen straight home game, James. Now they've lost four
straight and they just get rolled in the first half
of all of them. I still think, because of Dak
and CD and Michael will come back that they are
going to be a respectable team the second half.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Of the year.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
But they clearly have major structural problems, and Jerry's total
refusal this offseason to go spend money seems like it
has put a very hard ceiling on this team. If
you remember, in the offseason, I postulated he wasn't spending
money because.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
He was unsure about Dak.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
This was going to be a proven year for Dak,
and he wanted to see what he could do with
less talented guys before he went out and paid him.
And that made sense to me until days before the season.
He just paid Dak anyway, so they're locked into him.
So I don't know what they're doing, but I don't
think it's a good plan in any direction.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
So Nick Seriani, it was shocking to mean. Can you
imagine Bill Belichick, the late Bill Walsh jousting with fans.
I said, it's like a breakup that's about to happen
and one of the people in the relationship starts getting kooky,
the shaved head, jousting with fans. This a lot of
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people are positive with the Eagles. I think he's cooked here,
I think it's over.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
Yeah, you said, can you imagine Bill Belichick? Can Colin
you run a business in this scenario? Your Jeffrey Loriie
and Logan at the volume is Nick Sirianni. Can you
imagine if after a rough six months or so, Logan
comes to you and is like, I need a week off,
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I need to reset, and you're like, okay, no problem,
and his first day back he shows up with a
shaved head is terrible. That day, once again, it gets
in the YouTube chat, starts streaming at people, and then
when you say we need to have a zoom to
discuss what happened to here, he shows up with his
kids on his lap.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
So you can't yell at him. That's what Siriani did.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Yeah, you wouldn't allow that to happen at a car dealership,
much less the Philadelphia Eagles and American history is very
consistent in one thing. The spontaneous showed up having shaved
your head is not a sign things are going great
as my it doesn't nobody on a winning streak is like,
you know what, I'm gonna shave my head and shock
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everyone and then yell at the customers. The guy's out
of his depth. He's always been out of his depth.
They were able to cover up for it. And there
have been ninety two wins in the NFL this year.
Where would you rank that victory over the Bobgone Cleveland.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Browns eighty ninety ninetieth.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
That is not something you celebrate about. And then the
other part that I found noteworthy was this after the game,
with his kids on his lap as shields from the media,
he was like, oh yeah, players told me to do it.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
I gotta get back to me and myself. I gotta
be fiery.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
That was Sunday, Monday or that yeah Monday yesterday started
his press conference.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
I'm very sorry.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
It turns out maybe my boss didn't love the old
streaming at the customers.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Thing, and I maybe shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
I mean, we know where this train is ending, where
this is ending, and to me, at this point, it's
all it's just inevitable. He's obviously not going to be
their head coach next year. And I think that they
are worse than their three and two records suggests.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
By the way ninety seconds the two minutes left Davonte Adams,
let's circle back to it. I thought it was so
telling that immediately the Jets lost and he called out
Mike Williams. There's always now. The problem is you can't
blame Sola or NTT Hackett, so it's Mike Williams. Do
you think Devonte Adams? You don't think they't he'll make
them better at all?
Speaker 8 (33:51):
Well, no, I think he'll make them marginally better. But
I don't think the Jets are assumed to be thirty
two year old wide receiver coming off a hamstring injury away.
I think that I think that the defense is not
as good as people thought it was going to be.
The pass rush is the defensive front was supposed to
(34:13):
be excellent, it's been average. The secondary is excellent, but
now it's banged up. The offensive line was supposed to
be good, it's been average at best. Rogers, Colin, have
youer at some point producers do this? Look at post
MVP Aaron Rodgers numbers per game in production for his
(34:35):
last year in Green Bay and this year in New
York and compare it to Derek Carr in the same timeframe.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
They're identical.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Everyone is acting like, Okay, the Jets are this average
team with average coaching, but they've got this star quarterback. No,
they are a below average team with below average coaching
that has a below average aging curmudgeon lea quarter who
will take none of the blame, who will always let
(35:03):
you know who's fault it actually was, and is increasingly immobile,
and if he doesn't get the ball out immediately, if
they get in third and long, they are cooked every time.
Last night, if there was one drop, one run that
didn't work, they were done because he wasn't gonna be
able to get the ball out immediately. So do I
think DeVante Adams will help a little bit?
Speaker 7 (35:25):
I do.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Do I think that is enough to turn the Jets,
who look like a six win team and do more
than a seven win team.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
No, I don't.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
The DeVante Adams trade is noteworthy to me because it
means a team like the Bills or the Ravens, who
are actual contenders.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Won't be getting him.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Not because the Jets, who are about to fire everyone
and have the quarterback retire at the end of the
year and start over again, because again I remind America
they're the Jets. No, I don't think he moves the
needle for them significantly.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
First things first, Nick, right as always, fire today, Great
seeing you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
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Speaker 1 (36:09):
Dave wantstat six years as a Bears head coach, five
in Miami, a super Bowl champ with the Cowboys. For
the record, Dave, you never want to be giving up
good players at the trade deadline. That means you're a
bad team. But when you're a good team, what's realistic?
You want to get a guy that doesn't screw with
your chemistry and Amari Cooper I don't think does Did
(36:29):
you like making moves in season?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Well, you know, the times have changed a little bit
from when we really couldn't make any at least we
couldn't make any for a good player. There were guys
that were cut. You could sign off the waiver wire,
but more likely they wouldn't make much of an impact.
But nowadays, I'll tell you what you talk about, a
shot in the arm for the teams that need a player.
(36:55):
You know, Devonte Adams, the Jets, obviously Cooper we're talking
now at the Bills. But it's also it kind of
keeps the franchises that are taring don Hey, it gives
him up obviously more ammunition getting ready for the draft,
and it's a little bit of a shot in the
arm for their personnel people too. Hey, this isn't what
we're stuck with. We got draft picks. Now we can
(37:17):
get better for the future.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
You know you always told me, Dave, I've quoted you
many times. You can lose games, but not the locker room.
After losing that game last night to drop to two
and four, I thought DeVante Adams was a smart signing, Dave,
because it does add some juice. It puts Aaron in
a good mood the locker room. You know, you go
two and four, Dave, you can lose some players. You
(37:39):
can lose guys. I think Davante gives you hope, does
he not?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Absolutely? I mean, besides his talent. You know, the one
thing people will forget this when Aaron Rodgers was at
the Green Bay Packers, and you know he had Aaron
Jones was the running back and he was really the
lifeline people because of Aaron Rodgers the quarterback. People lose
sight of how they ran the ball with Dylan and
Aaron Jones. They were in the top five in running
(38:07):
the football and that's what set up all the play
action passes. So last night what the Jets did last
night by coming out and change it. Yeah, you talked
about the motions earlier, absolutely, but guess what, when you
run the ball like they did with Bryce Hall, that's
going to give Aaron Rodgers a chance to do what
he does best with his play action pass. Coming into
(38:30):
last last night's game calling, they were like twenty third
in the league in number of play action passes with
Aaron Rodgers, they were sixty eight percent drop back and
they were in the top five in the league drop
him back. So besides the motions, they had a little
bit of a philosophy change that's coming. It's going to
get back there. I think a lot more heavier run,
(38:50):
which will slow down that pass rush and now create
what Aaron does best his play action pass game.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
I said one of the things I don't like about
Fire Sala, who I think is a heck of a
football coach. He may not be a head coach, but
I think they fired the best coach on the staff,
You put an interim coach in, and what happens, Dave
As you know, it's like the substitute teacher syndrome. Everybody
tries to impress the new coach and plays hard and
then all of a sudden, ownerships like, yeah, that's our guy,
(39:19):
and there was a reason he was a coordinator. I
just think in the AFC, interim coaches aren't beating Andy Reid,
John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, Demiko Ryans. I mean, do you
think the Jets. I mean they may have some juice
now with DeVante, but I mean you faced interim coaches
in your career, did you feel like it was an advantage?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Well, what we saw last night there was a new
burst of energy, you could call it. You know, everybody
was excited about playing. They were at home. That helps
with an opportunity to win the game. So I thought
they had a good plan. I really did, on all
sides of the ball. You know, they missed field goals,
they give up those sacks, had drops. You talk about
(40:01):
Davonte Adams, you know, I mean it's if you're defending them.
Before last night, the running game was minimal, right, the
running game ever, running for less than four yards of carry,
that's not going to keep you awake at late night.
As a defensive coordinator, you know you got to defend
Garrett Wilson. And last night Mike Williams had the other receiver.
He had three targets. I think he dropped two of them. Collins. Yeah.
(40:23):
So Davonte Adams is gonna slot right in there. And now,
guess what if I'm defending the Jets right now, I
gotta defend the entire field, both outside wideouts and that
running game. As long as they stay committed to it
to be balanced, that'll make a huge difference in this
football game.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
When you were with the Bears, a lot of that
talent was on defense. I said this yesterday. It's the
first time I can remember my adult life looking at
the Bears and thinking they've got a great franchise quarterback
and some of the best pieces in the league. In fact,
I think their biggest concern is the division. Everybody is stacked.
It is the best of me and easily in football.
(41:01):
But you live in Chicago, spend a lot of time there.
I don't think it's hyperbolic. I think this team, this
team's good. I mean, if you've been impressed by Caleb,
we're surprised by him.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
And I obviously, you know, I do all their pre
and post game and everything on TV up here, so
I'm up at training camp, I'm at the OTAs.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
And what Caleb does, he has, he's advanced in his
football knowledge years. I mean, at the end of a
game last week, he talked about, well, I didn't want
to take any chances.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
They were saying, you didn't throw the ball down the field. No,
not this week, a week ago, he says, well, I
knew that our defense, you know, was playing real good.
I mean for a rookie quarterback to even be observant
of what's going on big picture, and every throw that
this kid makes, he can explain it to you when
it whether it was good or bad at the end
of the game. So I mean he's he's light years
(41:54):
ahead of most rookies from a football knowledge standpoint. And
guess what. And yesterday game with game they won, they
had twenty nine runs and twenty nine passes. Yeah, they
were exactly balanced. And when you're doing that with a
young quarterback, and then he ran a little bit, why
did he run because it wasn't third and nine. The
(42:16):
first two or three weeks of the season, they were
you know, they couldn't run the ball at all. I
mean they were averaging two yards of carry and he
was in third and long. Every series. They were having
six eight ten penalties a game. They had two. They
had two against Jacksonville. So they played clean, they played balanced,
(42:37):
and it helped him. I mean it took a lot
of pressure off of him.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, so Nick Sirianni shaved his head, yelling at fans
kids at the podium. I mean when you as a
former coach who was in big cities like Chicago, like Dallas,
what do you make of that when you saw him
jousting with fans.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
You know what, A long time ago, when I just
got into the business, one of my head coaches said
when I was in college, he says, never show a
crack in the armor. Never show the media, never show
the fans, Never show your players a crack in the armor.
And when I saw that, I said that to me,
(43:21):
I'm observing a major crack in the armor at Philadelphia. Yeah,
it's you're not going to win that one calling.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, that's really bad. Okay, So Jerry Jones this morning,
he got all worked up. So you've seen happy Jerry.
You've seen the prideful Jerry. Have you ever heard him
like that? I mean that that was I mean even
the one in fifteen year. He wasn't worked up like that?
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Was he?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
No, you're talking about a crack in the armor. If
we could be talking about every No, what I gotta
say this the one in fifteen year and I had
texted Jimmyson stuff early week. I mean, it's hard to
believe because we were like starting from grind level, okay,
and how this happened is mind bottling. I gotta tell
(44:10):
a story. We would keep I had a stack of
defensive playbooks calling in my defensive office, and these players
would work out. Tuesday. Jimmy would bring these guys in
and he'd send a personnel guy to walk three guys
down my office and say, well, uh, here's your two
new linebackers and a new safety or two new lives.
(44:31):
I'd say, okay, guys, here's your playbook. So we were
rowing guys in. I'm just and then we would play
them on Sunday. And one time there was a way
we ran a tight end. We had signed a new
linebacker and the guy they caught a ten yard pass
and then maybe a twenty and Jimmy clicks the head
so on he says, hey, Dave, we're going to stop
that route. I said, Jimmy, I'm gonna be awesot with you.
(44:53):
I never got a chance to explain that route to
the guy. He showed up in my office Thursday. The
guy had one day of practice and uh so, so
what I the point is when I see what's going
on now with a team that had won, brought twelve
games a year, and Jerry said, you know, everything is fine.
We're all in. It's a little bit mind bottling. And
(45:15):
you know, Jerry always puts a spin on things. I
don't care what he's talking about. He's going to give
you the half the glasses half full talk. We've all
heard it and he's fabulous at that. That's what he does, right.
This was one of the first times where I think
these players and they know where the buck stops. You
got a lane lane duck coach there. You know, Jerry's
(45:37):
gonna make the personnel. Jerry, everybody knows in that organization
where the buck stops, right, and when players and coaches
here Jerry not really having an answer, Yeah, not really
having an answer. In my opinion, that's not good. I
mean that that's gonna kind of put everybody back on
their heels. Even more so as far as the football
(45:58):
team moving forward, we're are we going now? It's it's tough.
It's really a tough situation. And I don't know what's
going to spark at the turn of the rock. I
really don't at this point.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, the NFC, as you well know, coach just the
NFC North, Vikings, Packers, Lions, Bears, those are all potential
playoff teams. So the NFC had a couple of down years.
I mean, Dallas made a lot of hay against an
awful Washington team. Well they're not bad anymore. And even
even when you whatever you think about Daniel Jones, when
(46:32):
Malik Neighbors is healthy, the Giants are a tough out.
They went up to Seattle in one So I think
I think there was a little fool's gold where they
were winning twelve regular season games and the NFC was down.
But now that Chicago and Washington have hit on quarterbacks,
brock perty San Francisco's hit on the quarterback is there
if I said to you, Kansas City's the best team
(46:54):
in the league. Who's the second best team? To you?
Who wouldn't you want to face second best team after
the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Detroit. I think Detroit just from the standpoint that you know,
Jared Goff. I mean, they've got receivers, they've got a
good defense, and I know that the injury thing is
I hate to even talk about that with Hutch, but
Detroit is the type of team that will knock you
on your knees and they're not going to back off,
(47:25):
you know, and they'll make enough they'll score enough points
to beat you. Yeah, but I think Detroit is a
team that would would really concern me because of the run,
the past, the defense, everything.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, they can be clever, they can do trick plays,
they can be flashy, and they can be physical. And
I know you love that run game.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Hey, hey, Colin, last year in the playoff game against
San Francisco, would they have a seventeen point leader whatever
it was, No, they would have had if he kicks
the field goal. He could have run quarterback sneaks every
play the second half and won that game. San Francisco
wouldn't be able to catch him. If he kicked the
field goal. So I think Dan Campbell's learned a lot.
As long as he makes keeps making good the fourth
(48:05):
down decisions, the fake's decisions, fake punt, field goals, you know,
those type of things can catch up with you as
we get down the road. As long as he keeps
those decisions clean like he's doing now, that's gonna that's
gonna help his team one hundred percent. I think they're
gonna be better than last year.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Uh Dave wonstat as owas coach, great senior, appreciate it
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Alright, call it ae youybody, all right,
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