Colin Cowherd discusses embattled QB Brendan Sorsby reportedly leaving football for the NFL’s supplemental draft. Colin explains why this issues highlighted the need for better leadership in college football.
Colin ranks the top 10 players to build around in the NBA – Victor Wembanyama is number 1 but does Finals MVP Jalen Brunson make the list?
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It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Well,
it's official. The mess is over. Brendan Soresby is going
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to enter the supplemental Draft according to the Athletic Little
messy gambling situation there so college foot not over. There's
gonna be games in the fall. The death of college
football has been greatly exaggerated, but let's talk about this.
Young men are highly impulsive seventeen to twenty four years old.
(01:15):
It can be alcohol. It can be gambling. It can
be adderall to stay awake for midterms. It can be cocaine.
It can be steroids. I saw it when I was
in college. Binge behavior more than any age group seventeen
twenty four year old men, and Brandon Soresby got addicted
to gambling. Yep, let's get him help. Let's get him help.
(01:42):
Texas Tech defended him and was doing that interestingly when
he got an injunction. It actually galvanized college football, which
it's always been every conference and everybody for itself, Notre
Dame still not officially, all in a conference. That's the sport.
Take care of yourself, or at best, take care of
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your conference. This young man will go to the supplemental draft.
He will get picked by somebody six' three mobile, accurate
and the gambling. Problem let's hope he gets that fixed
and goes on and has a fruitful. Life he's really.
(02:25):
Talented but college, football have you ever noticed? This we
argue about, everything the size of the, playoff who gets
into the, playoff if the future of nil is good
or bad for the, Sport the transfer portal scheduling imbalance
for years was, inequitable And Brendan sorosby's eligibility is the
(02:50):
latest drama we argue. About we don't argue about THE
nfl like. That, right just which team is? Better and
that's because pro sports In america and THE nfl specifically
has great, leadership so a little bit of turbulence doesn't
crash the, plane just like good parents don't like, kerosene
(03:15):
don't ignite your Daily Tuesday wednesday drama inside the, house
and don't burn the house. Down but because of the
fractured leadership in college, sports also known as THE NC,
doublea every mess turns into a bigger. ONE i, mean
THE NC doublea wasn't prepared For, nil wasn't prepared for
(03:40):
the transfer, portal wasn't prepared For Brendan. Soresby are you really?
Shocked wasn't really. Prepared it Was Networks fox AND espn
who really kickstarted conference. Realignment THE, ncaa, ohways feels like
it's playing catch. Up that's why we've actually had more
(04:01):
little dramas with gambling in pro, sports but they're quickly.
Solved black and white. Contractual So i've said for years
this has been my. Rant college football is, fantastic but
instead of having A ceo like A Dana white with A,
ufc it's more like. Boxing every, commissioner every promoter fighting
(04:24):
for his self interests. Hopeless hopefully this wakes the sport,
up But i'm not. Hopeful gambling and dice games been
around since three THOUSAND. Bc gambling is going. Nowhere you
can write your precious columns about the ills of. Gambling
been around, Forever it's going to be around for the
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rest of time in. Sports they've been doing it In
europe long BEFORE. Us when it's, monitored there are, boundaries
and it's smartly, governed it's, fun it's an additive and
it's a story as old at. On Barry, diller one
of the smartest guys ever in the, media just made
a bid to buy CASINOS MGM y because in the
(05:08):
world OF ai going, forward it's. Concrete you can't duplicate that.
Experience it's not going. ANYWHERE i. E it's time for
real leadership like THE nfl or THE nba Or Major League,
baseball black and white, contractual everybody on the same. Page
this was a mess that didn't have to come to,
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this but it, did inexplicably and not. SURPRISINGLY i hope
the kid gets. HELP i think he's really. Talented college
football was always going to survive. It Here's Bruce feld
in the last week from our show On Brendan soresby.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
The rest of The Big, twelve who is right now
apoplectic that this retired judge In texas granted this injunction
given how much he, bet how often he bet on
his own team when he was In. INDIANA i mean
was this was tens of thousands of, dollars thousands of
(06:07):
vets In given the history of THE, ncaa this is
like the one rule that it seemed like THE ncaa
had been held firm on that you cannot break and
if you, do you're basically.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Banned it all worked. Out we're all gonna be, okay
all root for the kid as he enters the supplemental. Draft,
Okay SO i was thinking about this With. Whimby you,
Know i've always joked With Michael. Jordan it's as if
he didn't really enter the league until he started winning.
(06:40):
Championships people forget That michael jordan first series Against milwaukee knocked,
away first three series in THE Nba, playoffs lost all of.
Them you'd think he never missed a. Shot With Michael,
jordan the beginning was. Chopping he was a ballhog and
not a great. Teammate at the end of The wizards was.
Spathetic wemby is twenty. Two he just faced a, smart,
(07:07):
veteran well, coached Physical knicks, team. Shocking it didn't go particularly.
Well even prodigies Like Peyton manning consider this finals For
wemby like the first playoff game for AN nfl quarterback
against a really veteran team that's on a, heater like
That tennessee team That Peyton manning faced in the. Playoffs
(07:31):
he completed forty five percent of his. Throws his passer
rating was sixty. Two twenty two year old, athletes even,
prodigies are not built to walk into pro sports and dominate.
Men The knicks have Men Mitchell, robinson Kat josh Hart
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og big strong, men and THE nba, officiating WHICH i
am a fan, of in the, final is going to
let the big guys. Play that's why so few champions
in the last eight years One denver has been led
by a, center and he's a non traditional. Center so you,
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know the bigger they, are the harder they. Fall in,
sports the higher you, climb the harder and longer the.
Fall so if he would have lost in The Western Conference, Finals,
wemby we would have lauded him for the. Effort you
took the defending champ seven games instead he. Wins it
goes to The, knicks and they were a bad matchup for.
(08:33):
Him they ended up being a bad matchup For, Cleveland,
Philadelphia atlanta And Oklahoma. City are The knicks? Great, no
but they are built to give a twenty two year
old Rail Finn center. Problems so, again go To Peyton
manning's first playoff, Game go To jordan's early. Career it's
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just not built for, young great players to. DOMINATE i
hear this all the. TIME i watched these clips Of
Matt damon And Ben affleck talking about their. Careers you'd
have thought they just Wrote goodwill hunting in the dorm,
room gave it to a, director and it was. Magical
it was a ten year cycle of. Rejection Joe rogan
(09:19):
a podcast. Sensation Joe rogan's almost. Sixty he was grinding
doing eight minute sets In boston comedy. Clubs but here
is nineteen twenty and twenty, one he now fifty. Eight
it's not. Easy success is, hard and the key threadline
for all great, actors, writers athletes. Relentlessness you're gonna get knocked,
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down you gotta get back Up wemby on learning from
this finals loss.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Comparison to anything. Before this is the biggest lesson of my,
life the biggest learning. MOMENT i can't tell exactly what
the lesson, is but we're learning from that for. Sure,
Uh i'm learning more than any other time in my life.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Before college football is gonna be. Okay wemby and The,
spurs similarly are gonna be. Okay all, right J mac
Tim reim stops. By oh, Boy Brian. Windhorst yannis wants
to go To. Miami that is his. Choice we have
(10:28):
thoughts on. That, Really, miami.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Who wants to go play with Bam atebayo and?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
What they have nothing on their.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Roster it's like a lateral move from the walking TO
i don't see it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Done that's.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Crazy you don't want to play with bam on a?
Bayou but what's? It what is that gonna get?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
You you're beating the knicks of The, Pacers, well.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You'd beat you am the greatest defensive front. Line i'll
tell you who you'd be good. Against San. Antonio bam
And yannis is built to be The Wemby.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
COLIN i could probably get a ten day contract to
play for The Miami. Heat if they if that's their,
roster those two, guys that's. It they're gonna have to
give up so. Much hokez is, Gone Tyler hero's.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Gone, no they. DON'T i If yannis has the leverage
he tells every other, TEAM i won't sign an. Extension,
Suddenly miami does not have to give away the. Farm
this is a rare opportunity for AN nba star who
was loyal for thirteen years to say, NO i got
three great years. LEFT i will not sign an extension
(11:32):
with anybody But. Miami how much would you give? Up,
Suddenly miami's offer is very close to everybody else's. Offer
yannis has a lot of power. Here often international players
don't want to play that. Card i'll Defend. GIANNIS i
would play that. Card coming up, next, now one of
(11:53):
the smartest guys in THE nfl is saying. It Shador
sanders looks, really really. Good that's Next The.
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This what to do With Jalen brunson obviously, relatable a
great fourth quarter. Score i've compared him To Russell. Wilson
where is his, size his? Durability his game is? Unique
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Was Russell. Wilson is he A hall Of? Famer for ten,
years all he did was win games and get To Super?
Bowls Jalen, brunson what DO I he's got a Little Steve?
Nash is he as good As Steve? Nash the MULTIPLE?
Mvp SO i thought to myself three years BECAUSE i
don't want to eliminate old. Players if you told me
for the next three years WHO i could build around
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in the, end this is the ORDER i would put them.
In so let's start with number. ONE i don't think
it's a big argument. HERE i would go With wemby
despite the. Finals, listen he played twenty nine minutes regular,
season he played forty in the. Finals he got worn
down by og And robinson And kat And Josh hart
leaning on. Him go back To Michael jordan's first, finals
(14:20):
first three playoff. Series he got. Bounced the kid's going
to be. Fine he's WHO i would build. Around number
two would Be. Jokic his skill set is. Perfect he's
one of the smartest Players i've ever. Seen point, center,
distribution distribution, Scoring he's got incredible nuance in touch around the. Basket,
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AGAIN i don't Think denver's done the greatest job since
the title of kind of maintaining a roster that works
in his. Favor he's not a great, defender but he's
not as awful as people. Claim jokic would be my.
Two number three is the most talented nineteen year Old
i've ever seen offensive. League Cooper. Flag he's not you,
know he's Not lebron in terms of size and. Strength
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his left hand floaters right hand. Transition it is remarkable
how offensively gifted he. IS i said this coming out of.
College people, said, well He's Jason, tatum but more, aggressive
and people whoa be. CAREFUL i think by this year
he will be better Than Jason, tatum who is a
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really high END nba. Player Cooper flag would be number.
THREE i would do aunt. Four now ant's going to get.
Expensive he is highly. Efficient his average continues to go.
Up he shot forty percent from, three so anti terrific.
PLAYER i wish has some maturity issues. Sometimes is he
a great? LEADER i don't, know but he's. Clutch he's
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obviously a hard worker because his game keeps getting better
and is my number. Four number, five now this is
what it gets. TOUGHER i would GO. Sga he's the
most criticized guy in the. LEAGUE i get thirty points a, game,
humility great. Teammate there's no resentment in the. Building despite
the fact that he takes a majority of the late game.
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Shops he And brunson have that in. Common there's no
resentment at all in the. Building he's loved by. Everybody
And i'm, SORRY i mean he led him to the
number one. Seed there's not a lot not to. Like,
esthetically it's not a beautiful, game BUT i get numbers
and production and. Durability that's. Redeemable number, Six luca durability
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is a problem. Now, well, no, no, no it's a real problem. Now,
also you have to build a certain team Around. Luca
you don't have to do that With Anthony edwards Or Cooper.
Flag just go build a team and get good. Players
luca's durability and conditioning is a. Problem you. Know i'm
getting to the point now with this durability stuff With,
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LUCA i wonder if he's already reached his, peak AND
i think that's a legitimate. Question number, SEVEN i would
Do jannis. Again he's, older age concerns thirty two next,
year and he's not a perimeter. Player he is a remarkable.
ATHLETE i think more than a few people in THE
nba think he is the most Legitimate wemby, stopper if
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there is such a thing by an. Individual he's never
really developed an outside. Shot he's got the ball in
his hands a, lot so he's not like a classic,
big BUT i think he Turns any franchise takes him
to another. Level if he signed number, eight and this
is a GUY i like more THAN i think the
rest of. You Kate, cunningham big. Strong he's only twenty
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four years. Old he's not a plus, defender but The
pistons had the number one defense or number two, defense
and he was part of that. Collective he's also developed
into a very good elevator of. Others he can score.
Now he's not super creative as a shot, created but
he's good. Enough the fact That detroit was a number
one seed without a second dependable score tells you how
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good this kid. Is great, facilitator good, kid can play,
defense tremendous. Body number. Nine Jalen. BRUNSON i know you
think it's too, low BUT i do think he is
a six to two player who's got kind of a different.
Game he succeeds despite size and defensive. Limitations he's got
an incredibly high usage, rate AND i do believe this
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roster was built perfectly around. HIM i love. Him i'm
putting him at. Nine most of you won't like, it
BUT i think that's. Fitting and number, ten to me's the.
Surprise It's Jason. TATUM i think one of the reasons
you're getting the honest rumors is he's strangely passive in big.
Spots they Move Marcus smart because he was taking shots
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away from. Him they're talking about Moving Jalen brown because
he takes shots away from. HIM i don't worry too
much about. Durability i've said, BEFORE i can like you
a lot as a, player but there are times in
big games late he kind of is he on the.
FLOOR i never ever say that With Kate cunningham Or Jalen.
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Brunson they may, be they may miss a, shot BUT
i never ask are they on the. Floor tatum's just
too passive too often to put him above those.
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Pacific. Now Nick wright has never agreed with me wholeheartedly
holistically on ANY nba. List so let's bring in my Friend,
nick who has been just spectacular as The World's cup
has started as, ALWAYS i, mean so let's just throw this.
Out which? One now you're already rolling your, seas you're
not even this is.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
One of Your this is this is? THIS i don't,
EVEN i can't mince. Words this is really. Bad it's really.
Bad what does you keep talking About Jalen Brunson and
as if you have a, question can you win big with?
Him when he just scored forty?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Five?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yes on the greatest.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Defensive player you've ever seen to win the finals in five?
Games who cares that he's Short messi's pretty short. TOO
i wonder If argentina could ever win A World cup with.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Him we saw it happen id.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
And there is there is no chance none That Cooper
flag next year is better Than Jalen. Brunson you're right
now this, Moment Victor winminyama is not better Than Jalen.
Brunson the wearing down thing With victor is a huge.
Concern you don't have to worry about that With. Brunson
Kin cunningham ahead Of Jalen, brunson it's like an extra
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slap in the.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Face why in? What in what? Context, well because soccer
isn't a big man. Sport basketball is overwhelming even. Now
it's not a center, league but it's a three AND d,
league it is a length, sport it is a wing.
League he is a remarkable. Player but it's just like
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the last eight. Champions they are no great. Teams there
are spectacular in the, moment lightning in the bottle, teams
which The knicks. Were but we were asking questions last
year About brunson And indiana being, like, Ugh kat And
brunson can't play, together.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
And then they just went fifteen and, One, yes shattered
the point differential for the. Playoffs and you're saying last
year we're watsking questions About John. Brunson right Now i'm
asking questions About Kate gunningham right to a, well he
didn't have a second, scorer Whereas cat can, Score og can,
score And bridges can. Score AND i, mean all of a,
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sudden now The knicks are some great. Team this guy
averaged thirty two and a half for the. Finals he
had thirty six and sex to quarterback a twenty nine
point second half comeback he then had forty the list
of guys with forty five plus in a closeout, Game
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jannis the best game of his, Career Bullet Bob, pettitt
who's too old even for you to have, watched And
Michael jordan's absolute greatest performance of his career his final
game In, chicago And brunson On Saturday. NIGHT i just
it's we don't need the hypotheticals. Anymore it doesn't have
(22:31):
to fit this is it's in a similar, way different draft,
profile but they both won in.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
College It's Isaiah.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Thomas it's, like, well Was Isaiah thomas ever better Than
Larry bird or better Than Magic, johnson or better Than Michael.
JORDAN i don't, know BUT i do know en route
to a championship he beat them, all AND i do
know that he outplayed them in playoff.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Series how about, This we Thought Jalen hurts was, good
and then for about a year and a half he's,
great and now we're back to he's kind of dependent
on his coordinator Co Jalen brunson we always thought was.
Good his dad ACKNOWLEDGES i didn't think he'd be that.
Good then he's great in a playoff, run IF i
told you he ended up being very good for the
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rest of his. Career there are these magical moments with.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Players jalens will magically be the. PEAK i agree with,
that but since he's been with The, knicks He Jalen
brunson in the last four. Years who leads the ENTIRE
nba in playoff. Wins Jalen, Brunson second in the ENTIRE
nba in playoff points per. Game Jalen, brunson first in
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thirty and forty point playoff.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Games Jalen.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Brunson this is a team that before he got there
had won one playoff series in fifteen. Years they immediately
won a playoff series in each of his first two.
Years had before he got, there had made a conference
finals in twenty five. Years they made it in year,
three hadn't been to AN nba finals in twenty seven.
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Years they made it in year, four hadn't won a
championship in fifty three. Years they just did it against
and nobody. Believed and it shouldn't say, nobody very few
people all during the playoffs thought that the winner of
The east would have any shot against whoever came out
of The. West and it's not only that they. Won
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other than, og none of his teammates played. Great they
won because he walked the spurs down every. Time like
at some, point body type and draft profile have to
matter less than what the guy actually just. Did AND
i just the, KEY i just vehemently disagree with. You
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that's the short. VERSION i vehemently.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Disagree. OKAY i Think i've seen we've seen the. Apex
we've seen the, top AND i think we all of us,
ten we've seen the top of.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
You everything we've seen the top Of. Yannis yannis's top
was five years, ago scored fifty in the. Finals you've
got him ahead Of, Brunson Cooper flagg is an. Idea
you've Got Anthony, edwards WHO i. Love why Is Anthony
edwards better Than Jalen brunson right?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Now? Why? Like and what tell me you can put
him on? Anybody two way? Player he's still as. Sending
he's a much better, Athlete he's a stronger. PLAYER i.
LIKED i think ANT i. WOULD i think if you ASKED,
gms they would take Andover. BRUNSON i. WOULD i would
take him. Home AND i THINK i.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Think if you ASK, GMS i think that is.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Correct what AND i and.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
LISTEN i think that there's ants probably the person on
your LIST i have the least issue. With BUT, I
i just don't there is to me and and and.
You you set it off the. Top you were like
for you, Know i've Called Jalen, Brunson Russell, Wilson. Colin
go back and Watch. Colin How Colin coward talked About Russell.
(25:58):
Wilson you loved to the. Guy you didn't care about
draft position or size or. Anything you're, like the guy,
wins the guy. Performs you Adored Russell. WILSON i JUST
i don't, know but, sorry go, ahead that's.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Okay THE i always said this About Michael. Jordan you'd
swear if you're like twenty eight years, old you've never
seen him miss a, Shot like, literally we only show
every shot was. Dramatic AND i, said oh, YEAH i
remember the first three series Pre. Pippin they got. Whacked
they couldn't win a. Series he was not a good.
Teammate he was running through. Coaches take a deep breath On. Wemby,
(26:34):
also it's not his primary, language so a couple of
times he was a little choppy at the. Podium he
may have offended People i'm not quite. Sure i'm, LIKE
i read a couple of the lines And i'm, like
his primary. Language, WELL i mean he said something like seeing,
never And i'm, LIKE i don't know if he WANTS
i don't care about, that but, OKAY i mean he
said seeing, never and everybody. Overreacted in my take IS
(26:57):
i think he. MISSPOKE i don't think he was trying
to Be kurt and a smart alec and. SNARKY i
just think we're. Over we're. Over we're dumping too much on.
Him THE Nba Antonio daniels just said, this THE nba
is the only sport that does. This, hey we're going
to get to the. Finals we're going to officiate totally.
Differently and he got. Bullied last eight champs only one
(27:21):
teams led by a, center a true, Center, jokis who's
kind of a non traditional. Center it is hard to
dominate in the paint in THE nba finals because the
officials sort Of Tim legler once said, it, guys you
have to at least do your. Job you have to
call some. Fouls AND i think he got bullied expectedly
by a bunch of. VETERANS i.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
AGREE i think the referee should have called more fouls
like maybe four of the uncalled flagrants That winby got away.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
With maybe THAT.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
I hear, right you know, what call a few more
clutches and, grabs and then maybe also the palming the
back Of brunson's head or the multiple landing zone penalties
that he got away.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
WITH i, AM i.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Am so here's that you are Correct on the front,
end bron was bad in the finals at age twenty.
Two jordan didn't make them till year, seven like there
is Their kareem made them, immediately but then, went you,
know a long nearly a decade in his career without winning.
Again so it is a long journey for these, guys there.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Is no question about.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
That but as far as the media's coddling Of Victor,
Winbinyama i've quite frankly never seen anything like. It he
this season did the following things before the, playoffs all
met with, applause AND i never AND i talked about
it at the time and every saying like. It back
(28:45):
In december when asked about THE Nba, Cup he's, like,
well The, knicks they don't play a sophisticated brand of.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Basketball the hell you tell it like?
Speaker 7 (28:54):
It maybe that's the language barrier. Again but why are
you lecturing me about sophisticated brand of? Basketball he explained
to us about how The spurs play ethical basketball and how.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
They own The.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Thunder he then did something that's never been applauded by
any media pundit in sports history until he did, it
which is in the midst of his team making a playoff,
run he was, Like, hey IF i could have hold
court for a, moment here's my three pronged plan as
to WHY i am the LEAGUE'S. Mvp and he went
(29:26):
After shay for not being as good, defensively said they
dominated the thunder all of. That so that was in
the lead up to the. Playoffs then in the, playoffs it's, like,
oh a little bit of a mean, streak that's a
hell of an elbow To nasred, find so be.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It we can deal with all.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
That then in the finals we had the following things.
Happen he throws Away game, two throws it. Away and
this is on the heels of after Losing game one saying,
oh we don't have to play, good we just have.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
To play normal to.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Win this celebrated after the conference finals like he had
won a championship because he thought he had after game
three said it was talked about them dominating the, series
After game, four talked about them dominating.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
The, series and then in.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Game in despite the fact that In game four he
said To Mitchell, Robinson i'm in your head and then
proceeded to be the face of the biggest collapse in
the history of The. Finals and then In game five
he gave you a, nice strong fifteen minutes and then
a twenty two year old ran out of gas and
needed a breather a water break during with five minutes
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left in the, finals and then after all of, that
gave The knicks no credit and wouldn't shake their. Hands
all of that put together changes how you view a
guy that's fair now as a. Player is he a brilliant?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Player?
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Yes did This finals also shine a? Spotlight it bit
on some of the, flaws doesn't have a go to offensive,
move does get very winded very, easily and needs to get. Stronger,
yeah BUT i JUST I all year long he was
talking as if winning was a foregone conclusion and he
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had this wisdom to share with, us and then in the,
finals when his team.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Is a huge, favorite came up.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Short there wasn't a lot of reflection of, man The
knicks are.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Better it was it's our.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Mistakes we controlled the series AND i just don't believe
that to be.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Accurate that's very good. Today let me ask you one. Question,
yeah you know YOU i. Soccer i'm nervous about. This
well soccer is you would acknowledge that you. Are you
AND i would both be, casuals ALTHOUGH i think we
both love. It, sure and there is A i don't,
(31:53):
know Little birdie said The spain draw yesterday was not
great for.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
You it's financially, ruinous is the way to put. IT
I i, mean, listen full. Disclosure i'm an open book.
HERE i want a lot of money on The knicks
winning the championship BECAUSE i had the very deep analysis of,
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hey this team hasn't lost in a, month and they
win every game by TWENTY i think they can beat
a Young spurs. Team AND i could, have you, know
just hit the old you, know withdraw, button but en
root to the withdraw. BUTTON i saw another button that,
said what what is? This is this a free fifteen
(32:43):
hundred DOLLARS i can pick up off the, ground just
scoop it. Up spain's gonna Beat Cape. VERDE i don't
care that they're minus fourteen. Hundred they could be minus fourteen,
thousand and SO i clicked that button, instead and THEN
i watched the game in horror and then again full,
(33:05):
disclosure and this is, listen gamble, Responsibly. AMERICA i then
proceeded to be, like, well certainly the next favorite will,
win and we might have pressed a, little and then
all of a, Sudden i'm sweating. OUT i don't even
remember the last Game. Uruguay no way to TELL i know, This.
Colin YESTERDAY i bet three favorites at huge minus money
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and it was a day of.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Draws there was no.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Winners there's no, winners no, upsets but no.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Winners, Right and.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
So this is why for the first, Time i've been doing,
this these hits with you since the beginning Of First Things,
first so nearly nine. Years today will be the first
day THAT i fill out an overtime sheet That i'm
going to try to get time and a half.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
See how it.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Works because this was a this was a bankruptcy level,
event and you know we, rebuilt that's.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
All it is good to. Say no. Winners there was
one loser yesterday and it's our, Friend nick, right he'll.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Be that is, Correct that is. CORRECT i hope you
like this fancy WATCH i wear every Time i'm on the,
show because this is the last time you're seeing.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It you got, here you're walking over to forty.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Seventh street seeing what cash it's.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Worth i'll see you, later, Buddy Nick right on The
World cup On Jalen brunson and And Victor. Wimbinyama, YEAH
i mean He. Victor it took you on us a
while to be westernized where he started having a little
attitude and pushing. Back And victor came over and he was.
Us and we talked about that a lot this. Show he's.
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Us he wants to win, everything he wants to dominate
The All Star. Game he's a little. Cocky he'll complain,
about you, know. Officiating HE'S. Us SO i did appreciate
that
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It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Well,
it's official. The mess is over. Brendan Soresby is going
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to enter the supplemental Draft according to the Athletic Little
messy gambling situation there so college foot not over. There's
gonna be games in the fall. The death of college
football has been greatly exaggerated, but let's talk about this.
Young men are highly impulsive seventeen to twenty four years old.
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It can be alcohol. It can be gambling. It can
be adderall to stay awake for midterms. It can be cocaine.
It can be steroids. I saw it when I was
in college. Binge behavior more than any age group seventeen
twenty four year old men, and Brandon Soresby got addicted
to gambling. Yep, let's get him help. Let's get him help.
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Texas Tech defended him and was doing that interestingly when
he got an injunction. It actually galvanized college football, which
it's always been every conference and everybody for itself, Notre
Dame still not officially, all in a conference. That's the sport.
Take care of yourself, or at best, take care of
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your conference. This young man will go to the supplemental draft.
He will get picked by somebody six' three mobile, accurate
and the gambling. Problem let's hope he gets that fixed
and goes on and has a fruitful. Life he's really.
(02:25):
Talented but college, football have you ever noticed? This we
argue about, everything the size of the, playoff who gets
into the, playoff if the future of nil is good
or bad for the, Sport the transfer portal scheduling imbalance
for years was, inequitable And Brendan sorosby's eligibility is the
(02:50):
latest drama we argue. About we don't argue about THE
nfl like. That, right just which team is? Better and
that's because pro sports In america and THE nfl specifically
has great, leadership so a little bit of turbulence doesn't
crash the, plane just like good parents don't like, kerosene
(03:15):
don't ignite your Daily Tuesday wednesday drama inside the, house
and don't burn the house. Down but because of the
fractured leadership in college, sports also known as THE NC,
doublea every mess turns into a bigger. ONE i, mean
THE NC doublea wasn't prepared For, nil wasn't prepared for
(03:40):
the transfer, portal wasn't prepared For Brendan. Soresby are you really?
Shocked wasn't really. Prepared it Was Networks fox AND espn
who really kickstarted conference. Realignment THE, ncaa, ohways feels like
it's playing catch. Up that's why we've actually had more
(04:01):
little dramas with gambling in pro, sports but they're quickly.
Solved black and white. Contractual So i've said for years
this has been my. Rant college football is, fantastic but
instead of having A ceo like A Dana white with A,
ufc it's more like. Boxing every, commissioner every promoter fighting
(04:24):
for his self interests. Hopeless hopefully this wakes the sport,
up But i'm not. Hopeful gambling and dice games been
around since three THOUSAND. Bc gambling is going. Nowhere you
can write your precious columns about the ills of. Gambling
been around, Forever it's going to be around for the
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rest of time in. Sports they've been doing it In
europe long BEFORE. Us when it's, monitored there are, boundaries
and it's smartly, governed it's, fun it's an additive and
it's a story as old at. On Barry, diller one
of the smartest guys ever in the, media just made
a bid to buy CASINOS MGM y because in the
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world OF ai going, forward it's. Concrete you can't duplicate that.
Experience it's not going. ANYWHERE i. E it's time for
real leadership like THE nfl or THE nba Or Major League,
baseball black and white, contractual everybody on the same. Page
this was a mess that didn't have to come to,
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this but it, did inexplicably and not. SURPRISINGLY i hope
the kid gets. HELP i think he's really. Talented college
football was always going to survive. It Here's Bruce feld
in the last week from our show On Brendan soresby.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
The rest of The Big, twelve who is right now
apoplectic that this retired judge In texas granted this injunction
given how much he, bet how often he bet on
his own team when he was In. INDIANA i mean
was this was tens of thousands of, dollars thousands of
(06:07):
vets In given the history of THE, ncaa this is
like the one rule that it seemed like THE ncaa
had been held firm on that you cannot break and
if you, do you're basically.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Banned it all worked. Out we're all gonna be, okay
all root for the kid as he enters the supplemental. Draft,
Okay SO i was thinking about this With. Whimby you,
Know i've always joked With Michael. Jordan it's as if
he didn't really enter the league until he started winning.
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Championships people forget That michael jordan first series Against milwaukee knocked,
away first three series in THE Nba, playoffs lost all of.
Them you'd think he never missed a. Shot With Michael,
jordan the beginning was. Chopping he was a ballhog and
not a great. Teammate at the end of The wizards was.
Spathetic wemby is twenty. Two he just faced a, smart,
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veteran well, coached Physical knicks, team. Shocking it didn't go particularly.
Well even prodigies Like Peyton manning consider this finals For
wemby like the first playoff game for AN nfl quarterback
against a really veteran team that's on a, heater like
That tennessee team That Peyton manning faced in the. Playoffs
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he completed forty five percent of his. Throws his passer
rating was sixty. Two twenty two year old, athletes even,
prodigies are not built to walk into pro sports and dominate.
Men The knicks have Men Mitchell, robinson Kat josh Hart
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og big strong, men and THE nba, officiating WHICH i
am a fan, of in the, final is going to
let the big guys. Play that's why so few champions
in the last eight years One denver has been led
by a, center and he's a non traditional. Center so you,
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know the bigger they, are the harder they. Fall in,
sports the higher you, climb the harder and longer the.
Fall so if he would have lost in The Western Conference, Finals,
wemby we would have lauded him for the. Effort you
took the defending champ seven games instead he. Wins it
goes to The, knicks and they were a bad matchup for.
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Him they ended up being a bad matchup For, Cleveland,
Philadelphia atlanta And Oklahoma. City are The knicks? Great, no
but they are built to give a twenty two year
old Rail Finn center. Problems so, again go To Peyton
manning's first playoff, Game go To jordan's early. Career it's
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just not built for, young great players to. DOMINATE i
hear this all the. TIME i watched these clips Of
Matt damon And Ben affleck talking about their. Careers you'd
have thought they just Wrote goodwill hunting in the dorm,
room gave it to a, director and it was. Magical
it was a ten year cycle of. Rejection Joe rogan
(09:19):
a podcast. Sensation Joe rogan's almost. Sixty he was grinding
doing eight minute sets In boston comedy. Clubs but here
is nineteen twenty and twenty, one he now fifty. Eight
it's not. Easy success is, hard and the key threadline
for all great, actors, writers athletes. Relentlessness you're gonna get knocked,
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down you gotta get back Up wemby on learning from
this finals loss.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Comparison to anything. Before this is the biggest lesson of my,
life the biggest learning. MOMENT i can't tell exactly what
the lesson, is but we're learning from that for. Sure,
Uh i'm learning more than any other time in my life.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Before college football is gonna be. Okay wemby and The,
spurs similarly are gonna be. Okay all, right J mac
Tim reim stops. By oh, Boy Brian. Windhorst yannis wants
to go To. Miami that is his. Choice we have
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thoughts on. That, Really, miami.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Who wants to go play with Bam atebayo and?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
What they have nothing on their.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Roster it's like a lateral move from the walking TO
i don't see it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Done that's.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Crazy you don't want to play with bam on a?
Bayou but what's? It what is that gonna get?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
You you're beating the knicks of The, Pacers, well.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You'd beat you am the greatest defensive front. Line i'll
tell you who you'd be good. Against San. Antonio bam
And yannis is built to be The Wemby.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
COLIN i could probably get a ten day contract to
play for The Miami. Heat if they if that's their,
roster those two, guys that's. It they're gonna have to
give up so. Much hokez is, Gone Tyler hero's.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Gone, no they. DON'T i If yannis has the leverage
he tells every other, TEAM i won't sign an. Extension,
Suddenly miami does not have to give away the. Farm
this is a rare opportunity for AN nba star who
was loyal for thirteen years to say, NO i got
three great years. LEFT i will not sign an extension
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with anybody But. Miami how much would you give? Up,
Suddenly miami's offer is very close to everybody else's. Offer
yannis has a lot of power. Here often international players
don't want to play that. Card i'll Defend. GIANNIS i
would play that. Card coming up, next, now one of
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sanders looks, really really. Good that's Next The.
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Podcasts nick right in five, minutes so we talked about
This what to do With Jalen brunson obviously, relatable a
great fourth quarter. Score i've compared him To Russell. Wilson
where is his, size his? Durability his game is? Unique
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Was Russell. Wilson is he A hall Of? Famer for ten,
years all he did was win games and get To Super?
Bowls Jalen, brunson what DO I he's got a Little Steve?
Nash is he as good As Steve? Nash the MULTIPLE?
Mvp SO i thought to myself three years BECAUSE i
don't want to eliminate old. Players if you told me
for the next three years WHO i could build around
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in the, end this is the ORDER i would put them.
In so let's start with number. ONE i don't think
it's a big argument. HERE i would go With wemby
despite the. Finals, listen he played twenty nine minutes regular,
season he played forty in the. Finals he got worn
down by og And robinson And kat And Josh hart
leaning on. Him go back To Michael jordan's first, finals
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first three playoff. Series he got. Bounced the kid's going
to be. Fine he's WHO i would build. Around number
two would Be. Jokic his skill set is. Perfect he's
one of the smartest Players i've ever. Seen point, center,
distribution distribution, Scoring he's got incredible nuance in touch around the. Basket,
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AGAIN i don't Think denver's done the greatest job since
the title of kind of maintaining a roster that works
in his. Favor he's not a great, defender but he's
not as awful as people. Claim jokic would be my.
Two number three is the most talented nineteen year Old
i've ever seen offensive. League Cooper. Flag he's not you,
know he's Not lebron in terms of size and. Strength
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his left hand floaters right hand. Transition it is remarkable
how offensively gifted he. IS i said this coming out of.
College people, said, well He's Jason, tatum but more, aggressive
and people whoa be. CAREFUL i think by this year
he will be better Than Jason, tatum who is a
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really high END nba. Player Cooper flag would be number.
THREE i would do aunt. Four now ant's going to get.
Expensive he is highly. Efficient his average continues to go.
Up he shot forty percent from, three so anti terrific.
PLAYER i wish has some maturity issues. Sometimes is he
a great? LEADER i don't, know but he's. Clutch he's
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obviously a hard worker because his game keeps getting better
and is my number. Four number, five now this is
what it gets. TOUGHER i would GO. Sga he's the
most criticized guy in the. LEAGUE i get thirty points a, game,
humility great. Teammate there's no resentment in the. Building despite
the fact that he takes a majority of the late game.
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Shops he And brunson have that in. Common there's no
resentment at all in the. Building he's loved by. Everybody
And i'm, SORRY i mean he led him to the
number one. Seed there's not a lot not to. Like,
esthetically it's not a beautiful, game BUT i get numbers
and production and. Durability that's. Redeemable number, Six luca durability
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is a problem. Now, well, no, no, no it's a real problem. Now,
also you have to build a certain team Around. Luca
you don't have to do that With Anthony edwards Or Cooper.
Flag just go build a team and get good. Players
luca's durability and conditioning is a. Problem you. Know i'm
getting to the point now with this durability stuff With,
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LUCA i wonder if he's already reached his, peak AND
i think that's a legitimate. Question number, SEVEN i would
Do jannis. Again he's, older age concerns thirty two next,
year and he's not a perimeter. Player he is a remarkable.
ATHLETE i think more than a few people in THE
nba think he is the most Legitimate wemby, stopper if
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there is such a thing by an. Individual he's never
really developed an outside. Shot he's got the ball in
his hands a, lot so he's not like a classic,
big BUT i think he Turns any franchise takes him
to another. Level if he signed number, eight and this
is a GUY i like more THAN i think the
rest of. You Kate, cunningham big. Strong he's only twenty
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four years. Old he's not a plus, defender but The
pistons had the number one defense or number two, defense
and he was part of that. Collective he's also developed
into a very good elevator of. Others he can score.
Now he's not super creative as a shot, created but
he's good. Enough the fact That detroit was a number
one seed without a second dependable score tells you how
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good this kid. Is great, facilitator good, kid can play,
defense tremendous. Body number. Nine Jalen. BRUNSON i know you
think it's too, low BUT i do think he is
a six to two player who's got kind of a different.
Game he succeeds despite size and defensive. Limitations he's got
an incredibly high usage, rate AND i do believe this
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roster was built perfectly around. HIM i love. Him i'm
putting him at. Nine most of you won't like, it
BUT i think that's. Fitting and number, ten to me's the.
Surprise It's Jason. TATUM i think one of the reasons
you're getting the honest rumors is he's strangely passive in big.
Spots they Move Marcus smart because he was taking shots
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away from. Him they're talking about Moving Jalen brown because
he takes shots away from. HIM i don't worry too
much about. Durability i've said, BEFORE i can like you
a lot as a, player but there are times in
big games late he kind of is he on the.
FLOOR i never ever say that With Kate cunningham Or Jalen.
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Brunson they may, be they may miss a, shot BUT
i never ask are they on the. Floor tatum's just
too passive too often to put him above those.
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Pacific. Now Nick wright has never agreed with me wholeheartedly
holistically on ANY nba. List so let's bring in my Friend,
nick who has been just spectacular as The World's cup
has started as, ALWAYS i, mean so let's just throw this.
Out which? One now you're already rolling your, seas you're
not even this is.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
One of Your this is this is? THIS i don't,
EVEN i can't mince. Words this is really. Bad it's really.
Bad what does you keep talking About Jalen Brunson and
as if you have a, question can you win big with?
Him when he just scored forty?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Five?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yes on the greatest.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Defensive player you've ever seen to win the finals in five?
Games who cares that he's Short messi's pretty short. TOO
i wonder If argentina could ever win A World cup with.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Him we saw it happen id.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
And there is there is no chance none That Cooper
flag next year is better Than Jalen. Brunson you're right
now this, Moment Victor winminyama is not better Than Jalen.
Brunson the wearing down thing With victor is a huge.
Concern you don't have to worry about that With. Brunson
Kin cunningham ahead Of Jalen, brunson it's like an extra
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slap in the.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Face why in? What in what? Context, well because soccer
isn't a big man. Sport basketball is overwhelming even. Now
it's not a center, league but it's a three AND d,
league it is a length, sport it is a wing.
League he is a remarkable. Player but it's just like
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the last eight. Champions they are no great. Teams there
are spectacular in the, moment lightning in the bottle, teams
which The knicks. Were but we were asking questions last
year About brunson And indiana being, like, Ugh kat And
brunson can't play, together.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
And then they just went fifteen and, One, yes shattered
the point differential for the. Playoffs and you're saying last
year we're watsking questions About John. Brunson right Now i'm
asking questions About Kate gunningham right to a, well he
didn't have a second, scorer Whereas cat can, Score og can,
score And bridges can. Score AND i, mean all of a,
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sudden now The knicks are some great. Team this guy
averaged thirty two and a half for the. Finals he
had thirty six and sex to quarterback a twenty nine
point second half comeback he then had forty the list
of guys with forty five plus in a closeout, Game
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jannis the best game of his, Career Bullet Bob, pettitt
who's too old even for you to have, watched And
Michael jordan's absolute greatest performance of his career his final
game In, chicago And brunson On Saturday. NIGHT i just
it's we don't need the hypotheticals. Anymore it doesn't have
(22:31):
to fit this is it's in a similar, way different draft,
profile but they both won in.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
College It's Isaiah.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Thomas it's, like, well Was Isaiah thomas ever better Than
Larry bird or better Than Magic, johnson or better Than Michael.
JORDAN i don't, know BUT i do know en route
to a championship he beat them, all AND i do
know that he outplayed them in playoff.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Series how about, This we Thought Jalen hurts was, good
and then for about a year and a half he's,
great and now we're back to he's kind of dependent
on his coordinator Co Jalen brunson we always thought was.
Good his dad ACKNOWLEDGES i didn't think he'd be that.
Good then he's great in a playoff, run IF i
told you he ended up being very good for the
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rest of his. Career there are these magical moments with.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Players jalens will magically be the. PEAK i agree with,
that but since he's been with The, knicks He Jalen
brunson in the last four. Years who leads the ENTIRE
nba in playoff. Wins Jalen, Brunson second in the ENTIRE
nba in playoff points per. Game Jalen, brunson first in
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thirty and forty point playoff.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Games Jalen.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Brunson this is a team that before he got there
had won one playoff series in fifteen. Years they immediately
won a playoff series in each of his first two.
Years had before he got, there had made a conference
finals in twenty five. Years they made it in year,
three hadn't been to AN nba finals in twenty seven.
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Years they made it in year, four hadn't won a
championship in fifty three. Years they just did it against
and nobody. Believed and it shouldn't say, nobody very few
people all during the playoffs thought that the winner of
The east would have any shot against whoever came out
of The. West and it's not only that they. Won
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other than, og none of his teammates played. Great they
won because he walked the spurs down every. Time like
at some, point body type and draft profile have to
matter less than what the guy actually just. Did AND
i just the, KEY i just vehemently disagree with. You
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that's the short. VERSION i vehemently.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Disagree. OKAY i Think i've seen we've seen the. Apex
we've seen the, top AND i think we all of us,
ten we've seen the top of.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
You everything we've seen the top Of. Yannis yannis's top
was five years, ago scored fifty in the. Finals you've
got him ahead Of, Brunson Cooper flagg is an. Idea
you've Got Anthony, edwards WHO i. Love why Is Anthony
edwards better Than Jalen brunson right?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Now? Why? Like and what tell me you can put
him on? Anybody two way? Player he's still as. Sending
he's a much better, Athlete he's a stronger. PLAYER i.
LIKED i think ANT i. WOULD i think if you ASKED,
gms they would take Andover. BRUNSON i. WOULD i would
take him. Home AND i THINK i.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Think if you ASK, GMS i think that is.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Correct what AND i and.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
LISTEN i think that there's ants probably the person on
your LIST i have the least issue. With BUT, I
i just don't there is to me and and and.
You you set it off the. Top you were like
for you, Know i've Called Jalen, Brunson Russell, Wilson. Colin
go back and Watch. Colin How Colin coward talked About Russell.
(25:58):
Wilson you loved to the. Guy you didn't care about
draft position or size or. Anything you're, like the guy,
wins the guy. Performs you Adored Russell. WILSON i JUST
i don't, know but, sorry go, ahead that's.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Okay THE i always said this About Michael. Jordan you'd
swear if you're like twenty eight years, old you've never
seen him miss a, Shot like, literally we only show
every shot was. Dramatic AND i, said oh, YEAH i
remember the first three series Pre. Pippin they got. Whacked
they couldn't win a. Series he was not a good.
Teammate he was running through. Coaches take a deep breath On. Wemby,
(26:34):
also it's not his primary, language so a couple of
times he was a little choppy at the. Podium he
may have offended People i'm not quite. Sure i'm, LIKE
i read a couple of the lines And i'm, like
his primary. Language, WELL i mean he said something like seeing,
never And i'm, LIKE i don't know if he WANTS
i don't care about, that but, OKAY i mean he
said seeing, never and everybody. Overreacted in my take IS
(26:57):
i think he. MISSPOKE i don't think he was trying
to Be kurt and a smart alec and. SNARKY i
just think we're. Over we're. Over we're dumping too much on.
Him THE Nba Antonio daniels just said, this THE nba
is the only sport that does. This, hey we're going
to get to the. Finals we're going to officiate totally.
Differently and he got. Bullied last eight champs only one
(27:21):
teams led by a, center a true, Center, jokis who's
kind of a non traditional. Center it is hard to
dominate in the paint in THE nba finals because the
officials sort Of Tim legler once said, it, guys you
have to at least do your. Job you have to
call some. Fouls AND i think he got bullied expectedly
by a bunch of. VETERANS i.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
AGREE i think the referee should have called more fouls
like maybe four of the uncalled flagrants That winby got away.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
With maybe THAT.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
I hear, right you know, what call a few more
clutches and, grabs and then maybe also the palming the
back Of brunson's head or the multiple landing zone penalties
that he got away.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
WITH i, AM i.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Am so here's that you are Correct on the front,
end bron was bad in the finals at age twenty.
Two jordan didn't make them till year, seven like there
is Their kareem made them, immediately but then, went you,
know a long nearly a decade in his career without winning.
Again so it is a long journey for these, guys there.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Is no question about.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
That but as far as the media's coddling Of Victor,
Winbinyama i've quite frankly never seen anything like. It he
this season did the following things before the, playoffs all
met with, applause AND i never AND i talked about
it at the time and every saying like. It back
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In december when asked about THE Nba, Cup he's, like,
well The, knicks they don't play a sophisticated brand of.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Basketball the hell you tell it like?
Speaker 7 (28:54):
It maybe that's the language barrier. Again but why are
you lecturing me about sophisticated brand of? Basketball he explained
to us about how The spurs play ethical basketball and how.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
They own The.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Thunder he then did something that's never been applauded by
any media pundit in sports history until he did, it
which is in the midst of his team making a playoff,
run he was, Like, hey IF i could have hold
court for a, moment here's my three pronged plan as
to WHY i am the LEAGUE'S. Mvp and he went
(29:26):
After shay for not being as good, defensively said they
dominated the thunder all of. That so that was in
the lead up to the. Playoffs then in the, playoffs it's, like,
oh a little bit of a mean, streak that's a
hell of an elbow To nasred, find so be.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It we can deal with all.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
That then in the finals we had the following things.
Happen he throws Away game, two throws it. Away and
this is on the heels of after Losing game one saying,
oh we don't have to play, good we just have.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
To play normal to.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Win this celebrated after the conference finals like he had
won a championship because he thought he had after game
three said it was talked about them dominating the, series
After game, four talked about them dominating.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
The, series and then in.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Game in despite the fact that In game four he
said To Mitchell, Robinson i'm in your head and then
proceeded to be the face of the biggest collapse in
the history of The. Finals and then In game five
he gave you a, nice strong fifteen minutes and then
a twenty two year old ran out of gas and
needed a breather a water break during with five minutes
(30:37):
left in the, finals and then after all of, that
gave The knicks no credit and wouldn't shake their. Hands
all of that put together changes how you view a
guy that's fair now as a. Player is he a brilliant?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Player?
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Yes did This finals also shine a? Spotlight it bit
on some of the, flaws doesn't have a go to offensive,
move does get very winded very, easily and needs to get. Stronger,
yeah BUT i JUST I all year long he was
talking as if winning was a foregone conclusion and he
(31:13):
had this wisdom to share with, us and then in the,
finals when his team.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Is a huge, favorite came up.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Short there wasn't a lot of reflection of, man The
knicks are.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Better it was it's our.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Mistakes we controlled the series AND i just don't believe
that to be.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Accurate that's very good. Today let me ask you one. Question,
yeah you know YOU i. Soccer i'm nervous about. This
well soccer is you would acknowledge that you. Are you
AND i would both be, casuals ALTHOUGH i think we
both love. It, sure and there is A i don't,
(31:53):
know Little birdie said The spain draw yesterday was not
great for.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
You it's financially, ruinous is the way to put. IT
I i, mean, listen full. Disclosure i'm an open book.
HERE i want a lot of money on The knicks
winning the championship BECAUSE i had the very deep analysis of,
(32:20):
hey this team hasn't lost in a, month and they
win every game by TWENTY i think they can beat
a Young spurs. Team AND i could, have you, know
just hit the old you, know withdraw, button but en
root to the withdraw. BUTTON i saw another button that,
said what what is? This is this a free fifteen
(32:43):
hundred DOLLARS i can pick up off the, ground just
scoop it. Up spain's gonna Beat Cape. VERDE i don't
care that they're minus fourteen. Hundred they could be minus fourteen,
thousand and SO i clicked that button, instead and THEN
i watched the game in horror and then again full,
(33:05):
disclosure and this is, listen gamble, Responsibly. AMERICA i then
proceeded to be, like, well certainly the next favorite will,
win and we might have pressed a, little and then
all of a, Sudden i'm sweating. OUT i don't even
remember the last Game. Uruguay no way to TELL i know, This.
Colin YESTERDAY i bet three favorites at huge minus money
(33:28):
and it was a day of.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Draws there was no.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Winners there's no, winners no, upsets but no.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Winners, Right and.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
So this is why for the first, Time i've been doing,
this these hits with you since the beginning Of First Things,
first so nearly nine. Years today will be the first
day THAT i fill out an overtime sheet That i'm
going to try to get time and a half.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
See how it.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Works because this was a this was a bankruptcy level,
event and you know we, rebuilt that's.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
All it is good to. Say no. Winners there was
one loser yesterday and it's our, Friend nick, right he'll.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Be that is, Correct that is. CORRECT i hope you
like this fancy WATCH i wear every Time i'm on the,
show because this is the last time you're seeing.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It you got, here you're walking over to forty.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Seventh street seeing what cash it's.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Worth i'll see you, later, Buddy Nick right on The
World cup On Jalen brunson and And Victor. Wimbinyama, YEAH
i mean He. Victor it took you on us a
while to be westernized where he started having a little
attitude and pushing. Back And victor came over and he was.
Us and we talked about that a lot this. Show he's.
(34:41):
Us he wants to win, everything he wants to dominate
The All Star. Game he's a little. Cocky he'll complain,
about you, know. Officiating HE'S. Us SO i did appreciate
that
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