August 5, 2026 • 28 mins
Colin Cowherd discusses the Dodgers losing their 5th game in a row amidst criticisms they're “ruining baseball”. Colin explains what makes the Dodgers different from every other team in Major League Baseball, and it’s not how much they spent on their roster.
He believes Steelers head coach Mike McCarthy in underrated and proves it by stacking his resume up against other elite coaches.
Plus, NFL reporter Albert Breer joins the show explaining how the Chiefs expect to turn things around after missing the playoffs last year and why the Cowboys believe they could have the NFL’s best offense.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh, it's Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
How much fun is Wrigleyville, Especially if you're a Cub fan.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us on a Wednesday
part of your day. John Middlecoff as always filling in
this weekend. Next for Jmax, who's on vacation, well earned.
Well went to the Cubs game last night five to one.
Cubs won. Dodgers lost again. You know, three days ago
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the Dodgers were ruining the sport. Three days later, apparently
not five straight losses, lost seven of nine.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
By the way, the Braves have won six straight.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The Red Sox have won six straight twenty nine and
five in their last thirty four. The Dodgers are melting
down their best players are hurt or can't hit. Is
the media ever right with their fatalistic claims. I know
I'm a broken record, but God, I push back on
this stuff. The sky is falling, doomsday folks. The media
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by and large attracts young people who push back on
power and wealth. And the Dodgers are rich and powerful.
But the young media is wrong. Stop staring at the
paint job. Look under the hood. The Dodgers are a
mess o. Tani's got two home runs since the All
Star break, health, age, brittle, expensive, Mookie bets one for
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sixteen during the losing streak, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Mean anemic feeble at bats.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
So this Tariq Schoobale acquisition was much more life raft
than adding, you know, a hellipad to the yacht. This
team is. I'm looking at the number since July thirty
first for our radio audience, tied for the worst record
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the most home runs allowed, the home run differentials the worst,
second most runs allowed, the team era has shot. It's
almost seven second worst than Baseball again. The Red Sox
on fire, the Braves on fire, the Cubs playing well.
The Dodgers have bullpen issues, age issues. Now now, now,
(02:38):
I will say, all you fatalists, Let's say the Dodgers
had just you know, won one hundred and fourteen games
and flown through the Baseball Playoffs like the ninety eight
Yankees did, who lost one game in the entire ninety
eight playoffs one game. The Yankees in the late nineties
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were so good they swept back to back World Series.
The Dodgers are winning on the margins Game seven. They
went to rotational players and backups starters out of the bullpen.
From ninety eight to two thousand, the New York Yankees
won three straight World Series. They were twelve and one
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in those World Series. It wasn't the sport wasn't competitive.
And I don't remember this outrage. You're all staring at
the paint job. Open up the hood. This is an
old team. They're on the hook for Mookie Betts's contract
for six years. He looks shot Otani. Now this is
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what happens when you pitch and you play. I mean,
I'm watching the Cubs last night. The Cubs have added
five arms at the trade deadline. Their batting order, their
position players are excellent. The last two nights they're the
better team. The Braves are the better team. The Red
Sox are the better team. I mean, I grew up
in the seventies where the sport was lobsided. The Cincinnati
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Reds batting order. These are the guys that hit an order.
Pete Rose, Ken Grivy Senior, Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench, George Foster,
Tony Perez. They had average pitching and dominated the sport.
The Yankees go twelve and one in three straight World Series.
Dominate the sport. This team's winning on margins the last
two years, and now they're broken. They are broken. So
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I mean last year in the World Series, the Blue
Jay's hit two seventy, the Dodgers hit two hundred. The
Blue Jays had twenty two more hits. I mean, I
don't believe in luck, but if there's ever been luck
in a seventh game of a World Series, everything worked
the Dodgers way. Some of it Dave Rogers, some of
it Levers, Dave Roberts, and some of it just out
and out luck, I mean his crazy World Series Game seven.
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So the Brewers and the Braves could have acquired Schooble.
Blame them for not landing the plane. Don't blame the
Dodgers for being desperate, badly needing him, knowing they're getting old,
expensive and brittle, and this is probably the last potentially
great team. In September. Here's Dave Roberts on the debut
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and another loss.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
We got to find a way to win a ball game.
You know, I thought tonight Trek was Terrek was fine,
a lot of emotion, adrenaline, and it was you know,
he limited the damage. You know, There's probably probably a
little bit more in there for sure, but I'm not
going to push him every time out. We have a
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lot of baseball left to play. He's the guy that
we're all counting on. So I think that I'm gonna
I'm going to manage, you know, and pick my spots
with him, and you know, you still got to score.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike McCarthy era begins in
earnest right, And there was a quote yesterday by one
of the running backs. He goes, this is not like
Mike Tomlin. This is the easiest first day of camp ever.
And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I
really don't. Mike McCarthy, the Steelers coach, has the distinction,
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and I believe this to be true of being the
greatest football coach ever with a mediocre reputation. He's like
the Nicholas Cage of football coaches. Everybody's like Nicholas Cage.
Nobody ever mentioned him as a great actor, and like
everything he's in is good. I mean, con Air was great,
Adaptation was great. Leaving Las Vegas is unbelievable. Raising Arizona
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is one of the funniest films I've ever seen in
my life.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
The Rock face Off.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It seems like a pretty good actor. He's good and
everything he's in. I mean, Marlon Brando had six bombs.
Everybody's in bad movies. So Mike McCarthy between Dallas and
Green Bay as eight division titles when DAK was healthy,
number one offense in the league.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Here's what's funny.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
If you look at John Harbaugh's resume stacked up with
Mike McCarthy. Now, for the dience, you won't see all
of this, but remember John Harbaugh got fired in Baltimore,
was the hottest candidate on the market. Their resumes are identical.
The only difference is, oh wait, there is none. Mike
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McCarthy gets hired and the Steelers settle Harbaugh gets hired
with the Giants. Home run Mike Tomlin put up Mike
Tomlin's resume against Mike McCarthy. Tomlin's viewed as a legend. McCarthy. Ugh,
that's all the Steelers did. Look at their resumes. The
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only difference McCarthy's got more playoff wins. So why in
the world is Tomlin's reputation this. I mean he had
Big Ben and John Harbaugh's reputation this, He had Lamar
Jackson and Joe Flack on his prime, And I think
it's this. McCarthy took all the heat and Aaron Rodgers
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took none of it at the time in Green Bay.
So the narrative got set in his coaching prime that
he was the problem in Green Bay. Remember, Aaron wasn't political,
Aaron wasn't as passive aggressive, Aaron wasn't as weird in
the early years in Green Bay. Right, he was that
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really cocky kid under Brett Farve. He was beautiful, he
was fun to watch. He moved. Something happened late in
Green Bay and he just you know, off season commitment. Ayahuascaz.
Even Matt Lafleur's like, let's move on, let's go with
Jordan Love. But what happens when the narrative gets set
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in your career, you're not a good actor after a
couple of early bombs. And I think that's the difference,
is that Mike McCarthy took all the arrows in those
early days in Green Bay. We all know. Now there's
a lot to unpack with Aaron Rodgers. Forget what he
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said a couple of days ago. There's a lot with
Aaron the off seasons. It's amazing these people who find
such things like People Magazine know who everybody in the
world's married to except Aaron Rodgers. I mean, there's a
lot of enigma and mystery. And so the truth was
Green Bay was a fifty to fifty split. Like Brady
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and Belichick both get credit in New England, McCarthy and
Aaron both get criticism and blame in Green Bay. But
Mike took all of it, and I don't think he's
ever been able to rid himself of that negativity. Now.
Matt hassebek Go was on earlier this week. He said, listen,
I don't care what happened earlier with McCarthy and Rodgers.
(10:00):
People in sports get over it. Quarterbacks and coaches get
over it.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
I believe it's gonna be great.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
I mean, I know what it's like to, you know,
feel like Nail's on a chalkboard with a guy and
then all of a sudden he leaves, and then it's like,
oh man, I missed that guy.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I didn't realize how good I had it. And so
I think for both guys.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
For Aaron Rodgers, man he probably miss miss has missed
Mike McCarthy. I think for Mike McCarthy, for sure, he's
missed that intangible factor that Aaron Rodgers brings to the table.
And I, you know, so I think like kind of
like you're saying, like that old relationship that gets back,
Hey man, the grass wasn't greener.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Necessarily, I have respect for you.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
And then when you have that deep background of experiences
together and a deep respect for one another, I think
it works.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Remember the thirteen years he was in Green Bay, McCarthy
always had the offense right, that was never the issue.
He only had two top ten defenses, and in one
of them he won the Super Bowl. So I can't
we're gon We're gonna talk once again to Mike the fabo.
He's at Steelers camp He's going to join us later
in the show, so can't wait for that. Today, Albert Breer,
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Eric Carros is going to be joining us. I mean,
the Dodgers are just they got so many issues right now.
And I got to tell you, if we got a
lot of baseball guys on our staff. If you've never
been this my second Third Cup game, if you've never
been to Wrigleyville in July or August or September, make
a pilgrimage.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I've said this before.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
If Wrigleyville was in Belgium, if it was in you know, Vienna, Austria,
it would be a bucket list like for a lot
of Americans who want to go watch Liverpool play, or
they want to go to the Tour de France they
want to do. If Wrigleyville wasn't in Chicago, it was
overseas in Europe, it would be one of those bucket
lists for people. That place was popping last night, I mean,
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just another Tuesday night at Wrigleyville.
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Speaker 1 (12:32):
So if I had to guest today, and I think
it's a pretty strong guest, who's gonna win the Super
Bowl or at least meet in the Super Bowl, I
would say the La Rams and the Buffalo Bills. I
think the Rams have the best roster in a decade.
I mean, that's how good it is. You got to
go back to that those Seahawk teams. Russell Wilson in
his prime when he wasn't making any money and they
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could load it up with Percy Harvin and Cliff April
who didn't even have to take that money snaps because
they were paying Russell Wilson nothing and he was productive.
I think the Rams roster's insane. The defensive line now,
if Aaron Donald comes back. I never seen anything like it,
and I think the Buffalo Bills, and which brings up
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the inevitable question, which is when's Josh all going to
get there? Never forget fourteen years of John Elway's career,
fourteen year period he didn't have a trophy. A lot
of things need to happen, right, Drew Brees won, farv
One Rogers won, Dan Marino and Jim Kelly, Nonne, Brady, Mahomes, Bradshaw.
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Those are historical outliers. Bradshaw had the best defense for
twenty five years, Montana had the best coach and best
wide receiver arguably ever. Brady's first three Super Bowls he
won by a field goal. I mean the margins were
narrow for New England for years and they were winning narrow.
So it's like he's in year nine. He's really good.
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A lot of it is almost like Phil Mickelson, When
do you enter in your prime? Phil Mickelson's prime was
Tiger Woods prime. Well, Josh Allen and Mahomes entered the
league one year apart. Mahomes got the better owner, arguably
GM coach and weapon Travis Kelcey. In an offensive league,
the weapon matters offensive coach Andy Reid, So like a
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lot of advantages just didn't go Josh Allen's way, you know.
And it's almost like movies Shawshank Redemption comes out in
the same year as Forrest Gump and pulp fiction gets overlooked,
you know, twenty seventeen The Shape of Water wins, a
story about a woman who falls in love with a fish.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
What are we doing? Yeah, weaker year, I mean, so
who knows?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But I tend to think the Rams are going to
win the NFC the better conference, and I like Buffalo
in the AFC. I think the DJ Moore often to
coach Now, I think it all works. But Josh Allen,
this is the inevitable question role when you're gonna get
one his response.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
In the playoffs a lot of times in the last
you know, however many years I've been here now and
you know, just continuing to find ways to learn from it.
And I think that's it's a hard pill to swallow
sometimes because we haven't gotten it done. But you know,
you knock, you knock enough at the door, it's going
to open at some point. And that's just what we
have to keep doing, to keep knocking on that door
and giving ourselves chances to be in that situation again.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
The thing that worries me the most when you go
look at the old Joe Montana playoff clips, those are
a lot of home games. When you look at a
lot of Tom Brady playoff moments, that's snow game, it's
in Foxborough. What worries me is that ESPN last week
ranked the teams in terms of talent twenty five and younger.
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Number one was New England in Buffalo's division. They already
won two more games in Buffalo last year with a
bunch of kids. So are you going to be playing
road playoff games? Asked Tom Brady about playing road playoff
games at Denver. It never worked out well. So a
lot of this, a lot of those Niner highlights with
Joe Montana, those playoff highlights, they were at home.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
A lot of Brady's at home.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So that's what worries me, not that the windows closed.
That New England now has the better coach, a elite quarterback,
a great owner, lots of historic momentum and success. That
and a lot more good young players. Buffalo right now
is ranked twenty ninth in terms of talent twenty five
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and under. And you can blame the GM, but some
of it becomes you're not paying Drake May and you're
paying Josh Allen a lot, and you've got to move
off really good players.
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Speaker 1 (16:57):
He's been at the Cowboys, Chiefs, Rams Arger, Seahawks, Broncos camp,
Albert Breern now joining us live at the Texans training
camp which is in Houston, and I'm sure in August
it's just charming. Okay, I want to ask you about this.
I want to ask you about the Cowboys camp, not
just because of the Cowboys, but I do. I said,
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when the Micah Parsons trade came down, I said, Jerry's
a deal maker. Deal Makers like flexibility. If they signed Micah,
they've got no flexibility. I get the trade today, I'd
say they want it based on Micah's health.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
We'll see. But you went to camp.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
There's Caleb Downs the d line over shown now is healthy.
What was the vibe with Cowboy camp?
Speaker 11 (17:44):
So I'd say, like the one thing that you that
that's unmistakable is like everybody talks how good the makeup
of the team is right like and so Brian Schottenneimer
said how he wanted to have the best culture in sports.
Speaker 12 (17:55):
Well, you look at the guys they brought in.
Speaker 11 (17:57):
Quentin Williams was a captain with the Jets, Kenny Clark
was a cap with the Packers, Jalen Thompson captain with
the Cardinals. The makeup of the team, they feel like
has gotten really really good. Additionally, they think the offense
has a chance to break franchise records, to be one
of the best, if not the best offense in the league.
Speaker 12 (18:15):
And so that leaves the defense.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
New defensive coordinator Christian Parker coming over from Philly, like
you said, Caleb Downs and Jalen Thompson now at safety.
The d line's got some moving pieces. Kenny Clark and
Quinnin Williams were added on the fly last year. So
now you get to sink your teeth into those guys.
Where Shaun Gary comes over from Green Bay. So I
actually had this conversation I'm in Houston now, you know,
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I had this conversation with some of the guys with
the Cowboys where it's like they almost view themselves as
the reverse of the Texans, you know, what I mean
where it's like, if we can just be pretty good
on defense, our offense is good enough to carry us.
So I think that's where they're at. I think the
other thing you got to watch their colin they do
have to stay healthy because I think depth use spots
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for them. But as far as just the front line guys,
they feel really good about where they're at.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, you you said, Aaron Donald's coming back to the
rams between it's just insane. McDuffie, Miles Garrett, Young, Braden Fisk,
Kobe Turner, Poona Ford was a number one redded nose tackle.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I said this earlier.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
We listed their top ten players and I'm like, I
mean they they were number one. I mean, I have
Miles Garrett, one, Kuka Trent. You get down to ten
and it's like, well, Kobe Turner was a top six defense.
He outplayed Chris Jones last year. I mean, it sounds
like Aaron Donald is kind of a done deal. He's
communicating daily with McVeigh.
Speaker 11 (19:40):
Really yeah, yeah, So like, I don't think it'll happen
before they break camp at Loyal and Marriormount, But I
believe that's it was the fifth I think that they
go back maybe in a couple of days, and I
think after that next week, I think all of this
become all of this is in play. I do think
he's coming back. He and McVeigh are very close. There's
been a constant open line of communication there, and they've
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actually come up with a plan for what it's going
to look like if and when he does come back.
And you know, what's really kind of given in an
interesting way, Colin what's given them the framework for that
as the holdouts in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. Now
you remember he reported to camp very late both years.
Both years he won Defensive Player of the Year. So
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they have a way to do this now. It's not
the same. Of course, he's thirty five now, he's you know,
obviously spent two years away from football.
Speaker 12 (20:32):
But they feel like they've got a good plan.
Speaker 11 (20:33):
And I think the other piece of this is, like
what you just the names you just rattled off, you know,
Kobe Turner, Braden fitz Pooniford, Tyler Davis. They really like
they've got all these interior defensive linemen. They don't need
to play him sixty plays a game, you know, so
they're going to have a way of managing him that
isn't going to cost the team.
Speaker 12 (20:52):
You know.
Speaker 11 (20:53):
I kind of take it back to like the Eric
Weddell situation a few years ago. He was there because
they needed him to be there, and he played every
because the Rams needed him to play every snap. I
don't think that's going to be the case with Aaron
Donald in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
If you look at the history of the NFL, you
win super Bowls when you have a majority of your
best players either in their prime or getting close to it.
That's the Rams this year. That was the great Seahawks teams.
It's hard to win when you're old. And you've been
at Kansas City camp. Listen, Kelsey's probably got a year left.
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They let McDuffie go, Chris Jones best years probably behind him.
Mahomes will be fine, but he's off a major injury again.
They've got they let Joe Tooney go, And I look
at Kansas City and I think they'll smart their way
and quarterback and coach their way to a wild card spot.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
But you were there.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I just I look at these top teams like Seattle
and Philadelphia Detroit, and I don't think the Chiefs have
that kind of personnel, do you.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
Here's here's what they have to do. They have to
do what they did three or four years ago.
Speaker 11 (22:00):
You remember when they traded Tyreek Hill, right, Like what
happened in the aftermath, create Humphrey developed, Trey Smith developed
on the defensive side of the ball, and Nick Bolton,
George Carl loftis McDuffie himself, right like, they use the
picks to get young players in and then they did
an outstanding job developing those young guys and a lot
of those young guys.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Big pieces of the puzzle.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
Right, So they need to have they need to have
that happen again. And in a lot of ways, they're
running back what they did in trading Tyreek and trading
McDuffie now and that Okay, we can't keep everybody. What
we can do is continue to flood the team with
young talent. And so you know, I can give you
some names. Josh Simmons at left tackle, what does he
look like? Iris Allen after the fifth round? They think
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he's got like some Stefan Diggs type qualities on defense
man Sewar Delane, Like, what does he look like at
the corner?
Speaker 12 (22:48):
Just think like that's really what it's going to boil
down to.
Speaker 11 (22:51):
I think at baseline, when you've got a quarterback like Mahomes,
you should expect to make the playoffs, like you said, right,
Whether or not they can to elevate to the point
that they've been over the course of the last you know,
eight years, which is Super Bowl contender, I think really
arise on their development of all those young guys, and
if they can develop them the same way they developed.
Speaker 12 (23:10):
The guys three or four years ago, then they'll have something.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So you know, it's interesting. The Seattle Seahawks are one
of those organizations that have mostly been very well run
for fifteen to eighteen years as long as John Snyder's
been in that front office. They draft well, they're smart,
they acquire well. He and Pete had some fissures, it
moved on. Then they go get another great coach. I mean,
just think of the coaches home grown Mike McDonald, Pete
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and the Pete thing got sideways. But I mean they
lose Kenneth Walker, who had durability issues, great player. They
go with this notre dame kid who apparently is wowing
everybody at camp, and they lose a corner here.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
But it should be noted that when.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
We watch them play the Seahawks last year, most of
the players who were great return and it's almost like, well,
Sam got a little lucky, and I'm like, guys, their
roster and they had, in my opinion, another good draft
despite drafting. At the end of round you were at
the Seaawk camp, what was the energy like.
Speaker 11 (24:14):
The talent looks like outrageous And I'll give you like
my anecdote, right, which is I'm like walking over to
the corner of the field and there are the defensive
ends working on the blocking slid there with ad dr Day,
the defensive coordinator, running the drill, and all I can
think about is they just lost boy in Mafe who
got twenty million dollars a year in Cincinnati.
Speaker 12 (24:33):
So that's a significant piece.
Speaker 11 (24:35):
And then you look at who they have out there,
and it's in general Luos Whu, DeMarcus Lawrence, Eric Hall,
Dante Fallon.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
They're four deep and they just lost a twenty.
Speaker 11 (24:46):
Million dollars player there, you know, So look, I think
the infrastructure is rock solid. I don't think Sam gets
enough credit for doing what he did in back to
back years with different teams like, it's really rare to
see a quarterback do that.
Speaker 12 (24:59):
I think he takes a step.
Speaker 11 (25:00):
And you know what I love about their off season
is gonna sound funny to you, but I like when
gms sometimes operate like in a way where you could
explain it to an eight year old, you.
Speaker 12 (25:09):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (25:10):
Like, and if you look at the guys they lost, right,
So they lose Kenneth Walker, they draft a running back
to Darian Price in the first round. They lose a safety,
Kobe Bryant to Chicago. They draft Bud Clark, a safety
in the second round. They lose Reek Well in a corner.
They draft a corner Julian Neal in the third round.
So it's like, it's very logical, and I think there's
there's a common sense thing to the way that they
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put that team together. And you know, I think the
big question is going to be, like can Brian Flurry
be what Clint Kubiak was as the OC?
Speaker 12 (25:40):
Like that to me would be.
Speaker 11 (25:41):
Like, oh, but I look across that practice field and
I see a lot of questions that have already been
in all right, Well, if you.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Go to the Bears camp on Sunday, text me. I'll
show up and we'll hang out.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'll be there, all right. I'm committing right now on
the Bears camp far from my house.
Speaker 12 (26:01):
Albert Berg All right, thanks Colin middle.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Coffe, you're missing out. Bears about invited me up to camp.
I think Sundays the day.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
I could see you roam in the sideline giving Caleb
and Ben Johnson some fist pounds.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Just like when I go to USC practice, I bring
a notepad make sure the coach gets a little look
at some of my secret quotions here and uh potions
and all my like numbers and stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And I'm a little bit weird on that.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
But you know, a little suggestion here or there for
Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (26:29):
And I can also see you just wearing out Ryan
Poles with some future you know guys in college. You
get about seventeen names for him to keep an eye on.
Speaker 12 (26:36):
About six guys at USC, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I mean he's poor Ryan Poles probably running around hiding
from me in the camp because I've got another USC
defensive tackle. I tell him to keep his eye on
all right. Uh, been good stuff today? Good Albert Breer.
The Yeah, it's you know, it's it's it's we generally
we talk about teams that are well run and what
organizations are well run, like Seattle has gone home, Groun,
(27:02):
Pete Carroll, Mike McDonald had great ownership, now have new
ownership now, but go look at the price tag, Like,
think about this. How many organizations in the NFL can
you say, GM coach top three in the league for
the next decade. Mike McDonald's McVeigh on defense, John Snyder
is still reasonably young. I mean, think about this, Donald
(27:25):
still what is Donald twenty eight years old? I mean,
GM coach quarterback? Tell me organizations that have three guys
in their prime that are top of the class. And
I know all you guys think Donald's the eighteenth best
quarterback in the league. I'm going to tell you right
now he's not.
Speaker 12 (27:41):
So.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I think Seattle is one of those incredibly well run
operations that doesn't give a ton, doesn't get a ton
of national respect, and I think they're very well low.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I'll tell you this, hard knocks.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
Colin can put together a montage of Sam looking like Elway.
I mean, he's just like Jesus guy is slinging this
thing around. You need to watch Hard Knocks. It's just
a Donald montage. I was the Throws.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Oh my god, tonight's done. Sorry Anne, I'm not going out.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Mm hmm
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh, it's Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
How much fun is Wrigleyville, Especially if you're a Cub fan.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you
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part of your day. John Middlecoff as always filling in
this weekend. Next for Jmax, who's on vacation, well earned.
Well went to the Cubs game last night five to one.
Cubs won. Dodgers lost again. You know, three days ago
(00:54):
the Dodgers were ruining the sport. Three days later, apparently
not five straight losses, lost seven of nine.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
By the way, the Braves have won six straight.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The Red Sox have won six straight twenty nine and
five in their last thirty four. The Dodgers are melting
down their best players are hurt or can't hit. Is
the media ever right with their fatalistic claims. I know
I'm a broken record, but God, I push back on
this stuff. The sky is falling, doomsday folks. The media
(01:27):
by and large attracts young people who push back on
power and wealth. And the Dodgers are rich and powerful.
But the young media is wrong. Stop staring at the
paint job. Look under the hood. The Dodgers are a
mess o. Tani's got two home runs since the All
Star break, health, age, brittle, expensive, Mookie bets one for
(01:49):
sixteen during the losing streak, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Mean anemic feeble at bats.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
So this Tariq Schoobale acquisition was much more life raft
than adding, you know, a hellipad to the yacht. This
team is. I'm looking at the number since July thirty
first for our radio audience, tied for the worst record
(02:16):
the most home runs allowed, the home run differentials the worst,
second most runs allowed, the team era has shot. It's
almost seven second worst than Baseball again. The Red Sox
on fire, the Braves on fire, the Cubs playing well.
The Dodgers have bullpen issues, age issues. Now now, now,
(02:38):
I will say, all you fatalists, Let's say the Dodgers
had just you know, won one hundred and fourteen games
and flown through the Baseball Playoffs like the ninety eight
Yankees did, who lost one game in the entire ninety
eight playoffs one game. The Yankees in the late nineties
(03:00):
were so good they swept back to back World Series.
The Dodgers are winning on the margins Game seven. They
went to rotational players and backups starters out of the bullpen.
From ninety eight to two thousand, the New York Yankees
won three straight World Series. They were twelve and one
(03:22):
in those World Series. It wasn't the sport wasn't competitive.
And I don't remember this outrage. You're all staring at
the paint job. Open up the hood. This is an
old team. They're on the hook for Mookie Betts's contract
for six years. He looks shot Otani. Now this is
(03:43):
what happens when you pitch and you play. I mean,
I'm watching the Cubs last night. The Cubs have added
five arms at the trade deadline. Their batting order, their
position players are excellent. The last two nights they're the
better team. The Braves are the better team. The Red
Sox are the better team. I mean, I grew up
in the seventies where the sport was lobsided. The Cincinnati
(04:04):
Reds batting order. These are the guys that hit an order.
Pete Rose, Ken Grivy Senior, Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench, George Foster,
Tony Perez. They had average pitching and dominated the sport.
The Yankees go twelve and one in three straight World Series.
Dominate the sport. This team's winning on margins the last
two years, and now they're broken. They are broken. So
(04:27):
I mean last year in the World Series, the Blue
Jay's hit two seventy, the Dodgers hit two hundred. The
Blue Jays had twenty two more hits. I mean, I
don't believe in luck, but if there's ever been luck
in a seventh game of a World Series, everything worked
the Dodgers way. Some of it Dave Rogers, some of
it Levers, Dave Roberts, and some of it just out
and out luck, I mean his crazy World Series Game seven.
(04:51):
So the Brewers and the Braves could have acquired Schooble.
Blame them for not landing the plane. Don't blame the
Dodgers for being desperate, badly needing him, knowing they're getting old,
expensive and brittle, and this is probably the last potentially
great team. In September. Here's Dave Roberts on the debut
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and another loss.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
We got to find a way to win a ball game.
You know, I thought tonight Trek was Terrek was fine,
a lot of emotion, adrenaline, and it was you know,
he limited the damage. You know, There's probably probably a
little bit more in there for sure, but I'm not
going to push him every time out. We have a
(05:36):
lot of baseball left to play. He's the guy that
we're all counting on. So I think that I'm gonna
I'm going to manage, you know, and pick my spots
with him, and you know, you still got to score.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike McCarthy era begins in
earnest right, And there was a quote yesterday by one
of the running backs. He goes, this is not like
Mike Tomlin. This is the easiest first day of camp ever.
And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I
really don't. Mike McCarthy, the Steelers coach, has the distinction,
(06:11):
and I believe this to be true of being the
greatest football coach ever with a mediocre reputation. He's like
the Nicholas Cage of football coaches. Everybody's like Nicholas Cage.
Nobody ever mentioned him as a great actor, and like
everything he's in is good. I mean, con Air was great,
Adaptation was great. Leaving Las Vegas is unbelievable. Raising Arizona
(06:34):
is one of the funniest films I've ever seen in
my life.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
The Rock face Off.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It seems like a pretty good actor. He's good and
everything he's in. I mean, Marlon Brando had six bombs.
Everybody's in bad movies. So Mike McCarthy between Dallas and
Green Bay as eight division titles when DAK was healthy,
number one offense in the league.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Here's what's funny.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
If you look at John Harbaugh's resume stacked up with
Mike McCarthy. Now, for the dience, you won't see all
of this, but remember John Harbaugh got fired in Baltimore,
was the hottest candidate on the market. Their resumes are identical.
The only difference is, oh wait, there is none. Mike
(07:16):
McCarthy gets hired and the Steelers settle Harbaugh gets hired
with the Giants. Home run Mike Tomlin put up Mike
Tomlin's resume against Mike McCarthy. Tomlin's viewed as a legend. McCarthy. Ugh,
that's all the Steelers did. Look at their resumes. The
(07:40):
only difference McCarthy's got more playoff wins. So why in
the world is Tomlin's reputation this. I mean he had
Big Ben and John Harbaugh's reputation this, He had Lamar
Jackson and Joe Flack on his prime, And I think
it's this. McCarthy took all the heat and Aaron Rodgers
(08:06):
took none of it at the time in Green Bay.
So the narrative got set in his coaching prime that
he was the problem in Green Bay. Remember, Aaron wasn't political,
Aaron wasn't as passive aggressive, Aaron wasn't as weird in
the early years in Green Bay. Right, he was that
(08:31):
really cocky kid under Brett Farve. He was beautiful, he
was fun to watch. He moved. Something happened late in
Green Bay and he just you know, off season commitment. Ayahuascaz.
Even Matt Lafleur's like, let's move on, let's go with
Jordan Love. But what happens when the narrative gets set
(08:54):
in your career, you're not a good actor after a
couple of early bombs. And I think that's the difference,
is that Mike McCarthy took all the arrows in those
early days in Green Bay. We all know. Now there's
a lot to unpack with Aaron Rodgers. Forget what he
(09:14):
said a couple of days ago. There's a lot with
Aaron the off seasons. It's amazing these people who find
such things like People Magazine know who everybody in the
world's married to except Aaron Rodgers. I mean, there's a
lot of enigma and mystery. And so the truth was
Green Bay was a fifty to fifty split. Like Brady
(09:37):
and Belichick both get credit in New England, McCarthy and
Aaron both get criticism and blame in Green Bay. But
Mike took all of it, and I don't think he's
ever been able to rid himself of that negativity. Now.
Matt hassebek Go was on earlier this week. He said, listen,
I don't care what happened earlier with McCarthy and Rodgers.
(10:00):
People in sports get over it. Quarterbacks and coaches get
over it.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
I believe it's gonna be great.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
I mean, I know what it's like to, you know,
feel like Nail's on a chalkboard with a guy and
then all of a sudden he leaves, and then it's like,
oh man, I missed that guy.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I didn't realize how good I had it. And so
I think for both guys.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
For Aaron Rodgers, man he probably miss miss has missed
Mike McCarthy. I think for Mike McCarthy, for sure, he's
missed that intangible factor that Aaron Rodgers brings to the table.
And I, you know, so I think like kind of
like you're saying, like that old relationship that gets back,
Hey man, the grass wasn't greener.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Necessarily, I have respect for you.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
And then when you have that deep background of experiences
together and a deep respect for one another, I think
it works.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Remember the thirteen years he was in Green Bay, McCarthy
always had the offense right, that was never the issue.
He only had two top ten defenses, and in one
of them he won the Super Bowl. So I can't
we're gon We're gonna talk once again to Mike the fabo.
He's at Steelers camp He's going to join us later
in the show, so can't wait for that. Today, Albert Breer,
(11:03):
Eric Carros is going to be joining us. I mean,
the Dodgers are just they got so many issues right now.
And I got to tell you, if we got a
lot of baseball guys on our staff. If you've never
been this my second Third Cup game, if you've never
been to Wrigleyville in July or August or September, make
a pilgrimage.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I've said this before.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
If Wrigleyville was in Belgium, if it was in you know, Vienna, Austria,
it would be a bucket list like for a lot
of Americans who want to go watch Liverpool play, or
they want to go to the Tour de France they
want to do. If Wrigleyville wasn't in Chicago, it was
overseas in Europe, it would be one of those bucket
lists for people. That place was popping last night, I mean,
(11:47):
just another Tuesday night at Wrigleyville.
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Speaker 1 (12:32):
So if I had to guest today, and I think
it's a pretty strong guest, who's gonna win the Super
Bowl or at least meet in the Super Bowl, I
would say the La Rams and the Buffalo Bills. I
think the Rams have the best roster in a decade.
I mean, that's how good it is. You got to
go back to that those Seahawk teams. Russell Wilson in
his prime when he wasn't making any money and they
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could load it up with Percy Harvin and Cliff April
who didn't even have to take that money snaps because
they were paying Russell Wilson nothing and he was productive.
I think the Rams roster's insane. The defensive line now,
if Aaron Donald comes back. I never seen anything like it,
and I think the Buffalo Bills, and which brings up
(13:15):
the inevitable question, which is when's Josh all going to
get there? Never forget fourteen years of John Elway's career,
fourteen year period he didn't have a trophy. A lot
of things need to happen, right, Drew Brees won, farv
One Rogers won, Dan Marino and Jim Kelly, Nonne, Brady, Mahomes, Bradshaw.
(13:42):
Those are historical outliers. Bradshaw had the best defense for
twenty five years, Montana had the best coach and best
wide receiver arguably ever. Brady's first three Super Bowls he
won by a field goal. I mean the margins were
narrow for New England for years and they were winning narrow.
So it's like he's in year nine. He's really good.
(14:05):
A lot of it is almost like Phil Mickelson, When
do you enter in your prime? Phil Mickelson's prime was
Tiger Woods prime. Well, Josh Allen and Mahomes entered the
league one year apart. Mahomes got the better owner, arguably
GM coach and weapon Travis Kelcey. In an offensive league,
the weapon matters offensive coach Andy Reid, So like a
(14:26):
lot of advantages just didn't go Josh Allen's way, you know.
And it's almost like movies Shawshank Redemption comes out in
the same year as Forrest Gump and pulp fiction gets overlooked,
you know, twenty seventeen The Shape of Water wins, a
story about a woman who falls in love with a fish.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
What are we doing? Yeah, weaker year, I mean, so
who knows?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But I tend to think the Rams are going to
win the NFC the better conference, and I like Buffalo
in the AFC. I think the DJ Moore often to
coach Now, I think it all works. But Josh Allen,
this is the inevitable question role when you're gonna get
one his response.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
In the playoffs a lot of times in the last
you know, however many years I've been here now and
you know, just continuing to find ways to learn from it.
And I think that's it's a hard pill to swallow
sometimes because we haven't gotten it done. But you know,
you knock, you knock enough at the door, it's going
to open at some point. And that's just what we
have to keep doing, to keep knocking on that door
and giving ourselves chances to be in that situation again.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
The thing that worries me the most when you go
look at the old Joe Montana playoff clips, those are
a lot of home games. When you look at a
lot of Tom Brady playoff moments, that's snow game, it's
in Foxborough. What worries me is that ESPN last week
ranked the teams in terms of talent twenty five and younger.
(15:55):
Number one was New England in Buffalo's division. They already
won two more games in Buffalo last year with a
bunch of kids. So are you going to be playing
road playoff games? Asked Tom Brady about playing road playoff
games at Denver. It never worked out well. So a
lot of this, a lot of those Niner highlights with
Joe Montana, those playoff highlights, they were at home.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
A lot of Brady's at home.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So that's what worries me, not that the windows closed.
That New England now has the better coach, a elite quarterback,
a great owner, lots of historic momentum and success. That
and a lot more good young players. Buffalo right now
is ranked twenty ninth in terms of talent twenty five
(16:42):
and under. And you can blame the GM, but some
of it becomes you're not paying Drake May and you're
paying Josh Allen a lot, and you've got to move
off really good players.
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Speaker 1 (16:57):
He's been at the Cowboys, Chiefs, Rams Arger, Seahawks, Broncos camp,
Albert Breern now joining us live at the Texans training
camp which is in Houston, and I'm sure in August
it's just charming. Okay, I want to ask you about this.
I want to ask you about the Cowboys camp, not
just because of the Cowboys, but I do. I said,
(17:20):
when the Micah Parsons trade came down, I said, Jerry's
a deal maker. Deal Makers like flexibility. If they signed Micah,
they've got no flexibility. I get the trade today, I'd
say they want it based on Micah's health.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
We'll see. But you went to camp.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
There's Caleb Downs the d line over shown now is healthy.
What was the vibe with Cowboy camp?
Speaker 11 (17:44):
So I'd say, like the one thing that you that
that's unmistakable is like everybody talks how good the makeup
of the team is right like and so Brian Schottenneimer
said how he wanted to have the best culture in sports.
Speaker 12 (17:55):
Well, you look at the guys they brought in.
Speaker 11 (17:57):
Quentin Williams was a captain with the Jets, Kenny Clark
was a cap with the Packers, Jalen Thompson captain with
the Cardinals. The makeup of the team, they feel like
has gotten really really good. Additionally, they think the offense
has a chance to break franchise records, to be one
of the best, if not the best offense in the league.
Speaker 12 (18:15):
And so that leaves the defense.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
New defensive coordinator Christian Parker coming over from Philly, like
you said, Caleb Downs and Jalen Thompson now at safety.
The d line's got some moving pieces. Kenny Clark and
Quinnin Williams were added on the fly last year. So
now you get to sink your teeth into those guys.
Where Shaun Gary comes over from Green Bay. So I
actually had this conversation I'm in Houston now, you know,
(18:38):
I had this conversation with some of the guys with
the Cowboys where it's like they almost view themselves as
the reverse of the Texans, you know, what I mean
where it's like, if we can just be pretty good
on defense, our offense is good enough to carry us.
So I think that's where they're at. I think the
other thing you got to watch their colin they do
have to stay healthy because I think depth use spots
(18:58):
for them. But as far as just the front line guys,
they feel really good about where they're at.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, you you said, Aaron Donald's coming back to the
rams between it's just insane. McDuffie, Miles Garrett, Young, Braden Fisk,
Kobe Turner, Poona Ford was a number one redded nose tackle.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I said this earlier.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
We listed their top ten players and I'm like, I
mean they they were number one. I mean, I have
Miles Garrett, one, Kuka Trent. You get down to ten
and it's like, well, Kobe Turner was a top six defense.
He outplayed Chris Jones last year. I mean, it sounds
like Aaron Donald is kind of a done deal. He's
communicating daily with McVeigh.
Speaker 11 (19:40):
Really yeah, yeah, So like, I don't think it'll happen
before they break camp at Loyal and Marriormount, But I
believe that's it was the fifth I think that they
go back maybe in a couple of days, and I
think after that next week, I think all of this
become all of this is in play. I do think
he's coming back. He and McVeigh are very close. There's
been a constant open line of communication there, and they've
(20:03):
actually come up with a plan for what it's going
to look like if and when he does come back.
And you know, what's really kind of given in an
interesting way, Colin what's given them the framework for that
as the holdouts in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. Now
you remember he reported to camp very late both years.
Both years he won Defensive Player of the Year. So
(20:24):
they have a way to do this now. It's not
the same. Of course, he's thirty five now, he's you know,
obviously spent two years away from football.
Speaker 12 (20:32):
But they feel like they've got a good plan.
Speaker 11 (20:33):
And I think the other piece of this is, like
what you just the names you just rattled off, you know,
Kobe Turner, Braden fitz Pooniford, Tyler Davis. They really like
they've got all these interior defensive linemen. They don't need
to play him sixty plays a game, you know, so
they're going to have a way of managing him that
isn't going to cost the team.
Speaker 12 (20:52):
You know.
Speaker 11 (20:53):
I kind of take it back to like the Eric
Weddell situation a few years ago. He was there because
they needed him to be there, and he played every
because the Rams needed him to play every snap. I
don't think that's going to be the case with Aaron
Donald in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
If you look at the history of the NFL, you
win super Bowls when you have a majority of your
best players either in their prime or getting close to it.
That's the Rams this year. That was the great Seahawks teams.
It's hard to win when you're old. And you've been
at Kansas City camp. Listen, Kelsey's probably got a year left.
(21:26):
They let McDuffie go, Chris Jones best years probably behind him.
Mahomes will be fine, but he's off a major injury again.
They've got they let Joe Tooney go, And I look
at Kansas City and I think they'll smart their way
and quarterback and coach their way to a wild card spot.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
But you were there.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I just I look at these top teams like Seattle
and Philadelphia Detroit, and I don't think the Chiefs have
that kind of personnel, do you.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
Here's here's what they have to do. They have to
do what they did three or four years ago.
Speaker 11 (22:00):
You remember when they traded Tyreek Hill, right, Like what
happened in the aftermath, create Humphrey developed, Trey Smith developed
on the defensive side of the ball, and Nick Bolton,
George Carl loftis McDuffie himself, right like, they use the
picks to get young players in and then they did
an outstanding job developing those young guys and a lot
of those young guys.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Big pieces of the puzzle.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
Right, So they need to have they need to have
that happen again. And in a lot of ways, they're
running back what they did in trading Tyreek and trading
McDuffie now and that Okay, we can't keep everybody. What
we can do is continue to flood the team with
young talent. And so you know, I can give you
some names. Josh Simmons at left tackle, what does he
look like? Iris Allen after the fifth round? They think
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he's got like some Stefan Diggs type qualities on defense
man Sewar Delane, Like, what does he look like at
the corner?
Speaker 12 (22:48):
Just think like that's really what it's going to boil
down to.
Speaker 11 (22:51):
I think at baseline, when you've got a quarterback like Mahomes,
you should expect to make the playoffs, like you said, right,
Whether or not they can to elevate to the point
that they've been over the course of the last you know,
eight years, which is Super Bowl contender, I think really
arise on their development of all those young guys, and
if they can develop them the same way they developed.
Speaker 12 (23:10):
The guys three or four years ago, then they'll have something.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So you know, it's interesting. The Seattle Seahawks are one
of those organizations that have mostly been very well run
for fifteen to eighteen years as long as John Snyder's
been in that front office. They draft well, they're smart,
they acquire well. He and Pete had some fissures, it
moved on. Then they go get another great coach. I mean,
just think of the coaches home grown Mike McDonald, Pete
(23:35):
and the Pete thing got sideways. But I mean they
lose Kenneth Walker, who had durability issues, great player. They
go with this notre dame kid who apparently is wowing
everybody at camp, and they lose a corner here.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
But it should be noted that when.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
We watch them play the Seahawks last year, most of
the players who were great return and it's almost like, well,
Sam got a little lucky, and I'm like, guys, their
roster and they had, in my opinion, another good draft
despite drafting. At the end of round you were at
the Seaawk camp, what was the energy like.
Speaker 11 (24:14):
The talent looks like outrageous And I'll give you like
my anecdote, right, which is I'm like walking over to
the corner of the field and there are the defensive
ends working on the blocking slid there with ad dr Day,
the defensive coordinator, running the drill, and all I can
think about is they just lost boy in Mafe who
got twenty million dollars a year in Cincinnati.
Speaker 12 (24:33):
So that's a significant piece.
Speaker 11 (24:35):
And then you look at who they have out there,
and it's in general Luos Whu, DeMarcus Lawrence, Eric Hall,
Dante Fallon.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
They're four deep and they just lost a twenty.
Speaker 11 (24:46):
Million dollars player there, you know, So look, I think
the infrastructure is rock solid. I don't think Sam gets
enough credit for doing what he did in back to
back years with different teams like, it's really rare to
see a quarterback do that.
Speaker 12 (24:59):
I think he takes a step.
Speaker 11 (25:00):
And you know what I love about their off season
is gonna sound funny to you, but I like when
gms sometimes operate like in a way where you could
explain it to an eight year old, you.
Speaker 12 (25:09):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (25:10):
Like, and if you look at the guys they lost, right,
So they lose Kenneth Walker, they draft a running back
to Darian Price in the first round. They lose a safety,
Kobe Bryant to Chicago. They draft Bud Clark, a safety
in the second round. They lose Reek Well in a corner.
They draft a corner Julian Neal in the third round.
So it's like, it's very logical, and I think there's
there's a common sense thing to the way that they
(25:33):
put that team together. And you know, I think the
big question is going to be, like can Brian Flurry
be what Clint Kubiak was as the OC?
Speaker 12 (25:40):
Like that to me would be.
Speaker 11 (25:41):
Like, oh, but I look across that practice field and
I see a lot of questions that have already been
in all right, Well, if you.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Go to the Bears camp on Sunday, text me. I'll
show up and we'll hang out.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'll be there, all right. I'm committing right now on
the Bears camp far from my house.
Speaker 12 (26:01):
Albert Berg All right, thanks Colin middle.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Coffe, you're missing out. Bears about invited me up to camp.
I think Sundays the day.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
I could see you roam in the sideline giving Caleb
and Ben Johnson some fist pounds.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Just like when I go to USC practice, I bring
a notepad make sure the coach gets a little look
at some of my secret quotions here and uh potions
and all my like numbers and stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And I'm a little bit weird on that.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
But you know, a little suggestion here or there for
Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (26:29):
And I can also see you just wearing out Ryan
Poles with some future you know guys in college. You
get about seventeen names for him to keep an eye on.
Speaker 12 (26:36):
About six guys at USC, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I mean he's poor Ryan Poles probably running around hiding
from me in the camp because I've got another USC
defensive tackle. I tell him to keep his eye on
all right. Uh, been good stuff today? Good Albert Breer.
The Yeah, it's you know, it's it's it's we generally
we talk about teams that are well run and what
organizations are well run, like Seattle has gone home, Groun,
(27:02):
Pete Carroll, Mike McDonald had great ownership, now have new
ownership now, but go look at the price tag, Like,
think about this. How many organizations in the NFL can
you say, GM coach top three in the league for
the next decade. Mike McDonald's McVeigh on defense, John Snyder
is still reasonably young. I mean, think about this, Donald
(27:25):
still what is Donald twenty eight years old? I mean,
GM coach quarterback? Tell me organizations that have three guys
in their prime that are top of the class. And
I know all you guys think Donald's the eighteenth best
quarterback in the league. I'm going to tell you right
now he's not.
Speaker 12 (27:41):
So.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I think Seattle is one of those incredibly well run
operations that doesn't give a ton, doesn't get a ton
of national respect, and I think they're very well low.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I'll tell you this, hard knocks.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
Colin can put together a montage of Sam looking like Elway.
I mean, he's just like Jesus guy is slinging this
thing around. You need to watch Hard Knocks. It's just
a Donald montage. I was the Throws.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Oh my god, tonight's done. Sorry Anne, I'm not going out.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Mm hmm
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