Daniel Cormier Show - Henry Cejudo on becoming UFC double champion, winning gold medal at Olympics

Daniel Cormier IS BACK with another episode of the Daniel Cormier Interview, and this time he sits down with one of the most decorated combat sports athletes of all time, Henry "Triple C" Cejudo! DC and Henry reminisce on their time together training and going to the Olympic games, and what it meant for Cejudo to win gold in Beijing. He won at age 21, which at the time made him the youngest American Olympic wrestling champion. Cormier and Cejudo talk about his "cringe" personality in the UFC and why that helped add to his ascension in the sport. And don't miss Henry reflect on his win over Demetrious Johnson, his business endeavors post fighting career, hard times growing up to become the fighter he did, and so much more! #Volume 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:23):
brand new episode of The Daniel Cormier Show.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Today.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
My guest is one of the most accomplished athletes that
I've ever been around. But I don't want this to
be the conversation. When people hear the name Henry Suhudo,
they think about a lot of winning. They think Olympic gold,
they think UFC titles. Honestly, they think Triple C, right,
because he's told his time and time again who Triple
C is. But before all of that, right, there was

(00:48):
a kid that grew up in chaos, right his family
fighting to survive. This kid learned discipline, he found pride,
identity all through rustling, all while not knowing that wrestler
would change his life. So the story of Henry Sahudo
is not just about fighting. It's about his family. He
sacrificed a lot. There was insecurity, confidence in what happens

(01:12):
when a person believes in themselves and then goes out
and they build themself peace, by peace. Now, of course
you're gonna get to the legacy, and we'll get to
his fights, his Olympic gold medal and everything else. But
first I want you to learn who Henry is as
a person, not the persona in all the other stuff

(01:32):
that we have seen from Henry Sahudo. I want you
to know Henry the guy that I met as a
young boy in Colorado Springs, because I think once you
get to know that guy, you can understand Henry Sahudo
much better. Guys, welcome into great Henry Sahudo.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I won't I won't be as annoying my boy, Henderson Hudo. Now,
thank you to see dad. What a hell of an intro, dude,
What a hell of an intro. You know it's funny, dude,
It's a fuck You're so good at that. I think
ever since we, uh, ever since I met you, you've
always had this talent of being able to communicate and
even and even Kevin Jackson. But I said, man, that dude,

(02:12):
that dude, he got a mouth Piesantom, you got a
mouth pieceanom And I turned it into a job. Yeah,
you can turn it into you turn it into millions?
Can say that? Can I say millions, it's been I've
been blessed. Yeah for sure. Man, Well thank you man,
thank you for having me on.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, Henry, when you strip everything away right the Olympic
gold medal, the UFC titles, When people want to know
who Henry Shudro is, like, how would you describe Henry Sahudro.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh Man, A little bit of cringe, a little I
think a little bit of what people see. But someone
that's very very soft driven, someone that that that wants
to matter, fast, everything that he can think of and
actually bring it to life, you know, like I'll never
forget it, man, I want like going out to the
Olympic Train Center, being out there with you because I

(02:59):
was able to watch you in two thousand and four,
like train for the Olympics, you know, so I remember
seeing you like go through the whole nine. So I
was able to see the whole Olympic team or whatnot,
and and I knew that a lot of that stuff
was possible, man, only if I got those opportunities, you
know what I'm saying. So I think for me as
somebody that's somebody that's gritty, driven, ambitious, you know what

(03:22):
I mean. It's super competitive that sometimes so competitive that
somethings I can suck the fun out of it. And
sometimes having having that pressure being backed up with fighting
or competing has also it's also what kind of makes
me a little bit did you did you learned? Did
you learn to deal with.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
That competitive aspect? Because it can be overwhelming. I live
with that same person inside of me that makes me
competing and everything, And you say cringe, but most around
me get annoyed, right because we could be walking to
an elevator and I'm trying to get there first because
I want to press the button. It's like this thing
is I don't understand, Like I don't know why it's

(04:03):
like that, but ultimately it allows you to become who
you became and who I became. But when do you
think you learned to deal with that part of who
Henry Shuto is?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah? No, I think a lot of you want to
go back to being the youngest in my family, Like
you know, it's one of seven raised by a single mother.
Uh you know what I'm saying. Like I was a
kid that went you know, I many times went went
to bad starving. You know what I'm saying, Growlan's stomach,
Like the whole nine. So I just feel like a

(04:32):
lot of it it was just maybe frustrations, you know
what I'm saying, Like maybe a little bit of that
maybe wanted to get out. Uh. It's not a one
it's not a one part answer. It's so freaking complex that,
you know, I think I think only those bad experiences
would actually makes you. You know what I'm say, which
are they really bad? You know what I'm saying, Like

(04:52):
it's a learning experience, it really is. But on the
flip side, I wouldn't want my kids to go through that.
You know what I'm saying, Well, that's why you build
a life that you have so that they don't have
to right right, right, And while you're going through those
learning experiences as a kid, right that kid becomes Themand
what part of you, that child that went to bed

(05:15):
still lives inside it? Like inside of you right now?
Can you still pull back on that person today and go,
I remember those feelings as a young kid that I
still feel today. Henry Zulo, the guy that's accomplished as
much as you accomplished, Man, I wish I could feel
that a little bit more, honestly, DC, You know what
I'm saying that hunger, Yeah, that hunger, well you know that,
that fucking literally hunger. Yeah, Like you know what I'm saying,

(05:38):
I wish I could pull back a little bit, so
even towards a tail end of my career, like when
you're full and you're satisfied, it does make it hard
to be motivated, like your your goals start to change,
you know what I'm saying. But if you bring that
and put that fucking chip on that shoulder once again,
it's like, dude, I'm back. Unless you don't have that

(05:59):
for a compartive like me, it makes it so so
freaking hard. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It makes
it so so freaking hard. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
And it was a part of your life from the
very beginning. Yeah, when you were when you started doing wrestling,
you immediately kind of took to the sport. But before
we get to wrestling, you talked about literally starving. Right,
your father wasn't around. He had some real issues in
his life. So your mom is responsible for seven kids.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Normal. My mom didn't believe in bird control too, bro,
believe that.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I don't think many people did back in the day.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Here was kind of bagging it out, Uh, yeah, I'm like,
Mama tells me, what the fuck are you? Like? I mean,
I thank god I'm alive. But Jesus dude, And it
was hard though.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
It was hard though, but she kept fighting. So my
question to you is when you are living that life right?
An absent father? I got to be honest, man, I
grew up in a a in a place where there
were a lot of no doubt. I was lucky because
I had one right, so I know how what work
looked like. I knew what strength looked like. I knew

(07:07):
it like a father figure. It was my stepdad, right,
But he was there since I was a three year
old boy. He comforted me through my real dad dying.
I always tell people strength, right, Strength is my stepdad.
That's why I loved him so much because when I
was a seven year old kid, my dad got murdered.

(07:30):
My mom was losing her mind. That's this woman. I'm
as a little boy in the bed crying and weeping.
He's sitting on the bed, rubbing me on the back,
making sure that I'm okay. That's strength. How were you
able to see that right when you didn't have that
peace in your life?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Right?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I know your mom was strong, but there are seven
of you. It's hard to really distribute all that energy
to making you feel you know, well, I.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Think the right answer is you don't know what you
don't know? Yeah, Like you know what I'm saying, I
just didn't know. But now that I'm older, bro, I
can I can have compassion for a guy like my dad,
you know what I'm saying, Like they do? Really? Yeah,
I really can. Man. You know, have you spoken to
your father? No? And that's uh. The last time I
spoke to my dad, last time I saw was about

(08:21):
maybe four, getting ready to turn five, and uh. And
then the last time that I spoke to him, I
think I was like in second or third grade. And
then and then the last time that I heard of him,
he died a year before the Olympics. Come on, yeah, yeah, people,
A lot of people don't know that that that side
of that side of my story. And the ironic part

(08:43):
about it is I was supposed to go out and
actually see him because I started kind of having like
you know, sometimes you like the premonitions like look, something's
gonna happen, like what the like after the US Open,
I want to go out and actually see him and
my family convinced me not to. This was like probably
in uh, you know, right before the right after the
US Open. So I was gonna use my you know,

(09:03):
my urnage from the US Open to go to Mexico
City to a should go see them? Yeah, and fuck
I get a we get a we get a call
like hey man, or an email. I don't know what
it was, like, hey man, your dad's your dad's heartfelting,
maybe an overdose or whatever. That may be doing drugs
for a long time, doing doing drugs for a very
very long time. Like it was so bad to see that.

(09:25):
He uh, like he would drink my mom's perfumes. Come on, yeah, yeah,
like drink my mom's perfumes. I remember one time we
were kids. Uh, we ain't have much, but when he
was conscious, like we had Christmas presents, fucking took him
sold them. Yeah, a new rug in our apartment. This
is back in South central Lachocked the new rug. Fucking

(09:47):
sold it like the whole nine you know what I'm saying.
So it's the nitty gritty side of things. But I
also go back and I think of his life and
what happened to him, Like he was homeless, as a kid,
Like he was roaming the streets as a nine eight
year old kid, like, just fuck trying to survive.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
What chance did he kind of have? That's hard, man, exactly. Man.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
So I'm just like, yeah, I'm not one of those
guys that's gonna hate that things like that, But I
feel for the dude.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I think you develop empathy when you become a father
also as you age, you go, Man, I know how
hard that must That's it was hard.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
For me as a kid.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I would never do that to my kids, but I
can try to look and see from their side because
it really is. And I've had people very close to
me deal with the same type of addiction. It really
is a sickness once that, once drugs and alcohol get
a hold of you, it's a fight that most people
can't win. And obviously you guys dealt with that at

(10:46):
a very very young age.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah yeah, and you know, unluckily, sports bro, my mom
was a very prideful latest. So my mom kind of
played more of a father free because she was so
hard on us that I almost feel like I missed
the like I missed the mom, you know, yeah, like
that that it was tough love, like you know what
I'm saying. But it was like fuck, dude, like I
feel like a dad, a dad.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, somebody that's like soft and like little.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, because my mom was like, hey, get up, like
you know what I'm saying. Hey, Like she was like
I knew as a little kid, like this is these
are the realities of life, Like you fuck up, like
you're going to prison. You do this, like you're going
to pay the consequence. So I never really got that
like fairy Tale story, the Disney stuff, you know, watching
movies and things like that. So I was able to

(11:29):
grow up at a very young age, like super quick.
And we talked about it last time. They're like I
don't think that's you know. I thank God for what's
happened to me and what I've been able to accomplish,
but I don't want that for my kids, Like you
know what I'm saying, Like no, be a kid man
like noice, like to have a mom and a dad
and three meals a day and things like that. Like

(11:52):
it's not like it's just you know what I'm saying.
So this is a part of the reason why even
like retirings, like I don't want them to go through
those feelings of like being scared and having fear and
that we're not gonna be okay. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, It's like maybe that's some of the stuff
that kind of could still kind of haunt me a
little bit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, you

(12:12):
cannot teach your kid too much of life too fucking
early like we did. Yeah, because it's not right.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, no, kids, kids aren't really equipped to deal with
the realities at a young age. How early did you
realize that that money was like an issue? Because, if
I'm being honest, growing up in Louisiana, not many of
us had much, so it didn't feel like we were

(12:40):
worse off than anyone else. But I didn't grow up
in the city like south central Los Angeles where it's
like a major city.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Where do you when do you think.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
You realized like, god, dang man, this is uh, this
is not normal that I'm going to bed hungry?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, well it was. So we left house at Charlie.
We had to leave our dad because he started getting
a little too crazy. I remember he was saying it
was like and my mom kind of kind of playing
reverse psychology, and she remember one time, He's like, Hey,
I'm gonna I'm gonna kill your fucking kids. Really, and
my mom was like, all right, well let's do it.
You kill one and I'll kill another one. But this

(13:19):
is what this is what I'm trying to tell you, Like,
this is how my mom is. But she was like,
this fucking dude is crazy, Like we got to get
the funk out of here. He went in jail and
we pretty much booked it. So we ended up going,
Uh lass is New Mexico in a border town. So
to answer your question, as a little kid, I knew
that stuff was real because you know, all my family

(13:39):
were you know, they all came to this country legally.
And I remember like we lived in like literally a
freaking crackhouse in the middle of in the border time
of of New Mexico and obviously Mexico. And I'll never
forget it because at that time my uncles were, uh,
they're in they're in high school, and they would fucking
I was a little kid playing outside dirt, like you
would think, like this house is like legit abandoned. Really yeah,

(14:02):
like legit abanding, Like, oh, throw a rock at it,
like break a window type of thing, and I remember
I would play out in the dirty and all of
a sudden, I'll see my uncle fucking running and then
I'll see a dude with the green jumpsuit like behind him,
and then uh and and then like you know, I
would say my my siblings were a little older and
we would cheer my my uncle was like like like

(14:25):
run to your run fucking immigration dude. So I'm seeing
this as a little kid, you know what I'm saying.
So boo, my uncle gets caught and I'm just like,
oh ship, Like it was like whoa. But I was like,
you know, as a little kid, like, oh okay. It's
just it's like to me, those were the bad guys,
you know what I'm saying, Like beause your uncle was
because my uncle was my uncle is my uncle. But

(14:47):
then you know, within a few days, I was back
home fucking cooking beans, getting back and yeah we're talking
about like in the early nineties, so you just come back. Yeah,
like it's back then. It was just like getting back,
so thelready knew, like, well we lived. It was kind
of you know, it was rugged, but there was like
all right, dude, there's a lot of there's a lot
of people that are undocumented. Yeah you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2 (16:26):
Did you ever feel embarrassed?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh yeah, about where you were from and how you
grew up, like when you were with your friends, when
you started going into school and being around other kids,
or were most of the kids in the same situation.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I always felt like, there's like, you know, your I
felt like I was just maybe man, there's always we
had it. We had it pretty bad. Like it was
to the point where I'll never forget it. Bro. I
was in fourth grade because Mama, we you know, I
ain't have toys. I ain't have any nor did I
even want that. I just do. I love playing breaking stuff,
you know, Dennis the Menace type things. And I remember

(17:02):
one time, Bro, like, there was a kid that came
up to me. He's like, hey, Henry, this is fourth grade, dude.
Kids are nasty.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Bro, don't break my heart.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Bro, please my heart. No checked out because this is
like a real this is like a real story that
it's like, hey, he was like, hey, Sylvester, Hey, this
is Sylvester's lock for his bike one five seven seven seven.
He's like, hey, because he's not going to school to
he asked me to take it, take his fucking bike.

(17:31):
He told me. He told me to steal it. So
then like he told me in the beginning of school,
So then all day was like, dude, I don't have
a bike, you know, I'm just like, bro, I can't
wait too steal this thing's bike. And I knew him.
That's how bad it was. You know what we were
like homies or things like that. Oh my god, I

(17:52):
end up I ended up stealing his bike with like
with my friend. But you know I was I was
the main character and said you can tok it. I
freaking took could next, you know, bro, Like you know,
I'm fucking hiding, bro, like from the house cause I'm
just like, whoa, what what the hell did I just do?
It's like I just hijacked. Yeah. I took it, took
it to my house. We had no furniture, put it
like in the closet or whatnot. And all of a sudden,

(18:13):
like everybody started to find out, Hey, Hendry took the bike.
I was just like I started getting scared. And then
the fucking next day the cop shows up. Oh my god,
they end up grabbing the bike. My same uncle was
freaking illegal state at the house. Oh my god. Yeah,
everything tripping now, dude, you know what I'm saying. And
then but my mom felt for me that she didn't

(18:35):
even hit me.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Really yeah, because she couldn't give you anything within two months,
she was like fuck man, Like, within two months we
got her income text and she bought me a bike.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Come on yeah, And I was just like, damn, like, Mom,
you didn't he didn't hit me. It's almost like, dude,
like almost rewarded me. She almost like no, She's like
she almost like fucked like you know you wanted you
wanted that bike that bad that uh after stealing, and
she ended up buying me one. And I was just
like I'll never forget it because we went actually on

(19:05):
the city bus to actually go get it. So it
meant a lot to me, you know what I'm saying, Like, literally, Hey,
which one do you want? You know? I was like,
well that one that's too much, okay, so what's the
budget that Okay, I'll take that one, you know, to me,
it meant the world to me, you know what I'm saying.
But to that extent to where your own parent could

(19:26):
have compassion for you because knowing that, you know, everybody
else is in their bike, you know, roaming and I'm
fucking over here just you know, the dirt, just running, running, running,
playing with everybody, but running rather than actually in bikes.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
It sounds like your mom was the main character in
your story.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
So what did she represent for you?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Like it sounds like at times that was she could
give you pressure, right, pressure of get up, this is life.
She was safety, right because in that moment she provided
a safety and a comfort for you too, you know,
get your bike and almost like a hope right that

(20:06):
you could be something greater. So when you think back
on all that your mother did, what did you What
did she represent to you in your upbringing?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Honestly, just the attitude of no excuse, you know what
I'm saying, The attitude of no excuse, Get up? You
know what I'm saying, Like do it? You know you
could be the you could be the greatest thing on earth,
or you can be the biggest slum And it's your decision,
you know what I'm saying. Like, like, that's what it is.
I could fucking lot you and tell you. Oh it
was love, it was kindness. No, no, it was like, hey,

(20:39):
you you make your bed, man? How are you? How
do you want to live your life? You know what
I'm saying, Like it was kind of a little iron
fists tough love, no, yeah, but iron fists like hey, bro,
like you do this. This is what's gonna happen. What's
going to happen? So and then also too, I think
I think living in these I think living in those

(21:00):
circumstances too, like you know, you start to you start
to understand that that you don't want that ship to
be forever. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like, no,
I gotta I gotta get out, I gotta find something.
I gotta find something too. And then and then obviously
the fuck everything changed when I watched the Olympics wrestling,
which they're ironic. No, not even Bro ninety six watching

(21:24):
box No, Michael Johnson tracking Yeah, when when I saw him,
when that that that Olympic gold medal with his infamous
gold shooes, I was I was nine years old, dude,
and that shit changed my life forever. Man. There was
an inspiration that came within me. When I saw this
dude win, I was just like, whoa. It wasn't even
about the gold medals, Like, what the fuck? I want

(21:45):
to know what that dude is. I want to know
what it feels like to be the best in the world.
Had you wrestled yet?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
No?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
No, I had no idea. I had no idea that
wrestling even existed.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Really, do you remember when you first found wrestling and
how you found it?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Oh? Yeah, once I saw wrestling, did I was like.
It was in junior high and my brother Angel started
wrestling first, and then he I'll never forget because he
he came over to the house. He's like, hey, Henry,
you know they they're fucking wrestling at school. Bro, I'm
thinking w w F dude, Like you know like what
He's like, Yo, like this is crazy, And I was like, really,
I can hear it? And I was like, huh because

(22:25):
you know, you know, you know, you grew up in
the hood and the you know, in the freaking Borrows.
You only know what you know. Yeah, you know, Rick exactly, dude.
I'm just like, what the like really, So I was
already kind of curious about it, He's like, no, man,
like this is like and he was doing his best
to actually explain it, and I'm just like, I was
so kind of mind bugle util. I went to one
of his wrestling meets and that day I was just like, Wow,

(22:48):
my fucking heart was pumping. Dude. I was like, whoa,
these dudes are my size, Like they're competing of the
principals coming up giving them medals, like awarding these dudes
like I was so coustomed just fighting, fighting for ice
creams in front of drunk Mexicans. That uh, I was
just an ad dude. So the dream, the dream kind
of came alive when I first saw it, and I

(23:09):
knew that that's what I wanted to do even before
I left the pair of wrestling shoes really because I
love that one on one contact, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Like I saw I saw that. I was just like, man,
this is it? This is it?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Do you you? And you took to it like a
fish to water, Like you were good at wrestling right.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Away away, right away.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
You're one of those kids that walked into because I know,
obviously we coach kids, you don't do it to the
level that I do. But uh, in terms of the
time spent, if you want it to, you could have
the greatest club in the country. Just know that, but
which angel does. But some kids just have it. When
did you realize that, man, this may not be just

(23:53):
my hobby.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I may change my life.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Because I got to tell you, Henry, when I was
a sophomore in high school going up in the hood,
bad student, it's kind of just like the norm. Here's
a bad student. You don't do what you're supposed to do.
You're watching all these movies where the cool kids are
kind of bullies and assholes, and you don't do your schoolwork.
And then my sophomore year, I won the state tournament

(24:16):
and I was like, holy cow, maybe I can get
a scholarship for this. And then I went to the
World Championships and I got third, and I was like,
oh my god, Wrestling's gonna change my life. This is
not gonna just be what I do when I'm not
playing football. This is what's gonna like determine my future.
When did you realize that wrestling was gonna be what
you did and who you would become.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Ah? Man, Honestly, dude, it was gaining a tape of
Zeke Jones. And my coach was very hard nos, very
very hard knows dude. And I remember he gave the
tape actually to my brother because my brother was already
my first year wrestling and I only lost like maybe
three matches. I was like thirty and three.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
I to match my friend my first time.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I get beat every single week. But he gave me
this tape of Zeke Jones uh winning the world title
against Valentine Gerdonna. Oh yeah, that was a great and
ninety one and bro, I would fucking watch that ship
every day every day, like how he beat him, you know,
ninety one in Bulgaria against you know, a nine time

(25:25):
world champ, a limping champ. And to me, that was
just like I was just mesmerized by it. I was like, whoa,
I'm like, dude, that is uh so. But it was
in a structure it will show you the match in
the beginning and then it will show you the technique.
So it was about maybe about an hour and a
half long, maybe two hours, and every day Boom put
the tape in, I would watch it and I was

(25:45):
just like, you know, just watch it, dude, every single day, dude.
So I was able to really develop a lot of
skill through that, you know, which was you know, which
was you know now I'm friends with Zeke, which just
at that time all the time was like man, you
know we got into it one time, you know, a
long time ago. But I'm like, bro, I owe you
big time. Many You're a big You're influenced part of
why I became what I became.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, it sounds like your life was pretty chaotic right
growing up, and then you get into wrestling, and it's
about as chaotic as a sport can be, right, because
the person's trying to turn you over and pin you,
he's wrenching on you, he's trying to hurt you in
most instances, especially as a kid. But for you, it
was a bit of a safe space. How did he become?

(26:28):
How did you learn to operate in that right, wrestling
and all that chaos and all in.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Front of all those people.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
You went from the little boy that was running around
playing in the dirt to in these full gyms wrestling
and winning. Like, how did you find safety in that sport?
I think winning winning, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Just desire because I didn't have anything, So I think
the feeling of winning was was precious and obviously the
I was such a sore loser, old Daniel.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Like I was a motherfucker one kids that run off
the mat crying they have to grab me like Henry stop, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Punch like I would do whatever, like a fight. I
just just you know, just just a kid that you know,
like they're frustration, like how can you beat me?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Well, it was also it was probably also because like
for the first time right in life, on the wrestling mat,
you didn't have to be the kid that stole shit.
You didn't have to go to bed hungry. You knew
in wrestling that if I did what I'm supposed to do,
I'm supposed to be the best. And there's like a
there's something to that, right, like I'm the best here.
Here's the problem though, when you're the best so early, right,

(27:38):
you don't deal with the growing pains. So when it
does show itself, you act out. I've seen in a
lot of kids. So my question to you is wrestling
becomes our identity at some point?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Did it happen for you way too early? Uh? Yeah, yeah,
I think so. I think so. Like it it happened,
it happened. It happens super super early. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. But there was always like but at
the same time, I never really felt accomplished. And then
and this is and this is a fact because I

(28:12):
I dreamt about the Olympics. It's just about every day,
like every day as an eleven year old kid, when
I first started wrestling, I was like, man, I wanted,
what is Zeke Jones? What do he feel like? What
was Michael Johnson feeling like? Like the dream was always that
It wasn't it wasn't the stage of the nationals or
all that like it was.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
It was always so free Henry.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Which was crazy.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Man, I don't know if you know, no, bro, let
me tell you this.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I swear to god.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I had this conversation the other day when I was
watching the Olympics in ninety six, same one as you.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
I saw Kurt Angle in his Olympic gold medal with
a broken neck.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
They made a big deal about the story, and I
said to my friends, I go, I want to be
a world champion. I said, I'm going to win the Olympics.
And everybody goes, this, dude is crazy, because guess what.
There are eight billion people in the world. How many
people can set a goal that big and go I
want to be the best in the world at something,
just anything. Imagine to say I want to be the

(29:07):
best in the world at anything. It's crazy because most
people think that if you're just okay, you're okay. But
I believe only the crazy ones can do what we
did because you have to say it and believe it,
especially as an eleven year old kid. So to me
it doesn't sound crazy. But to the general public, everybody's well,
Henry's a crazy ass kid, So yes, it becomes your identity.

(29:31):
But for me, it didn't happen n till I was
a teenager at eleven years old. That that's crazy that
you could see that at such a young age.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, and it's crazy. I tell people all the time,
like those who want to succeed, and it's hard. It's
hard for me to tell a kid at that age
like have fun, like if it's in them, I could.
The only thing that I could do is like, hey, man,
you're gonna go through a lot of shit man.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Like, Like I almost have like real talks with the
eleven your own kid, acting like your mama.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, I'm just hey, you're uh, you're gonna You're gonna
have to understand this is a fucking process. You can
tell and you and you, you have to be willing
to know what it's like to feel pain, the pain
of losing, you know what I'm saying. And obviously the
you know, the thrill of victory. But like if you
can really take the pain of fucking losing, but see

(30:23):
the big picture, you're special.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
You know there's gonna be I always tell them, I'm like, Yo,
there's gonna be pain either way. There's gonna be pain
in the training room. There's gonna be pain when you
lose matches. Like what the greatest pain in the world
is regret, the pain of regretting something. There's nothing like it.
So you might as well put yourself in a position
to try and experience that thrill of being the best,

(30:49):
because if you don't go through all those emotions, you
don't become Henry Suhudo. Uh that so many people know Henry.
But you go from sleeping in a car, sleeping in
a house that doesn't have beds in rooms, and you
get called up to the Olympic training center as a

(31:09):
teenage kid.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
What was that like like?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Leaving so young, away from your family to go chase
a dream.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Now that I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
To you a part of your story, I didn't know
it was a dream that you had been dreaming about
for six years already by the time you're seventeen. But
what did that look like? What did that feel like
as a young boy leaving home? Nah, dude, it was easy, Dan,
It wasn't scary. It wasn't scary, man, it was a privilege.
And the ironic part about us you were able to,

(31:38):
you know, to kind of witness a little bit. Obviously
you're getting ready for the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
It was in two thousand and fours when you're trying
to make a run to actually become a gold medalist,
And shit, I watched you. I watched Jamale Kelly Stephen
Abbess like I was in the room. Yeah. So I
was actually invited to be a training partner for Patricia
Miranda yep, because I was the only guy that could
really compete with it that was small, and I resembled

(32:02):
a lot of what the Japanese brought to the table.
Low singles. So then Townsend Saunders, who was an Olympic
silver medalists, you know, he was you know, he worked
with us in Arizona for a little bit and uh
he and and apparently he was Tricia Trishaun was working
with Patricia Miranda and she said, hey, I have the
perfect I have the perfect kid for you. So she

(32:23):
ended up coming down to work with me, you know,
and obviously, you know, I did my thing, and they're like,
we need you. So they said, hey, we'll uh we'll
bring you out periodically, like like you know, will bring you,
you know, to the Olympic traytion in car Allo Springs
and you go home and spend time with your family.
I'm like, dude, I don't just fucking keep me there,
really there? Yeah, So I told him they took me up.

(32:47):
They took me up on it. But because I was
training with the women's greco and then freestyle and I
did that for like a whole month, and they're like, man,
this kid really has desire and passion to become the
best in the world. Like legit. But they're like, dude,
go like like Henry, get out of the restroom. I go,
I get out of here, like go, rask, go do something.
And I'm just like no, no, no, I'm this is

(33:08):
this is home to me. Yeah, food bad and it
felt weird, dude, it felt weird for the first time
having all that time. Yeah, having my own bad like zinc.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
But can I ask you this, were you ever guilty,
like because your family? Did you leave them in the
same situation your mother and everyone else? I had their
situation gotten better to where when you left they were
in a better.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Place or was it kind of the same. No? I think.
I think, like I go back into you know to
say you don't know what you don't know? Like, it's
just I'm selfish, man. You know, it's the only way
to be the best. Yeah, it's it's it was it
was me, it was it was all or nothing. So
when I got invited to so when I got invited
for that whole month, I ended up I ended up

(33:53):
from from from Colorado Springs. I ended up going to Fargo,
North Dakota, which is the toughest tournament uh in freestyle.
Ended up winning both styles, and then Sila Glaza kind
of discovered me a little bit and he was like, man,
this kid is special and it meant so much to
me to hear from Sergiblo Glaza, who was a two
time Olympic champ, six time World champ to say this

(34:17):
kid is going to be Olympic champion, this kid's in
Olympic champion. I was like, fuck, that meant the world
to me to hear from somebody that's already done it.
Because I would always ask him like, Serge, what does
it feel like to be the best in the world,
Like what does it feel like? And I would always
ask him, like almost have just about every day. You know.
He would have given me like, yeah, yo, yes, it

(34:39):
just it's good, Like give me a little more, yeah,
give me a little more than that. Yeah. But I'll
never forget it because I wrestled him for the first
time and this is when I first started at the
training center, and I think he took a liking to
me because he saw me. He beat me up a
little bit, and I know who the hell he was.

(34:59):
I did not know who the hell he was. And
he was being a dick too, man, yeah, because he
saw my frustration, like he bumped me, like you know
what I mean, like like he took me down. And
then I was like he can see that I was
trying to like cry bro, like I was so frustrated,
you know, I was like, dude, this dude is like
put hiss old next level yeah, and I'm just like boom,
and I think I might have got to take down

(35:20):
or something. And then uh and then after like he
saw me in the corner. He saw me in the corner.
What now? Like I told him like he kind of
came up to me, like he kind of like like
hit me, like you know what I'm saying, Like he's
kind of teaching me something. And then I'll never forget
it because someone came out to is like, hey, do
you have any idea who he just wrestled and I'm
like crying, bro, I'm like, I'm like pissed dude, like
my first week there and I'm getting beat up by

(35:42):
an old man in front of freaking a bunch of people.
He's like that's Circuit Billa Glaza, my two time Olympic
chain fucking worlds. I'm like what, Like my frase just went.
I was like whoa greatness. Yeah, I'm just like, man,
this is this is the I just had. I had
no idea and I'm just like man, Like it meant
like I was able to go from crying to like
to say, man, fucking thank you. Yeah, well that's thank

(36:05):
you for giving me that time and thank you for
being a dick. That that's that's uh, that's what that's
what the trained listener is. Man.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
When you're in there, you're just like with everybody day
by day. You know a lot of these young athletes
that are so special, right, because we are all special
in our own way, but not like you, because we
don't get plucked out of our communities and stuck into
that situation. Do you ever think back to your childhood
and go, man, I missed a lot. Do you ever

(36:31):
think like I missed a part of growing up because
I always you had to have like proms and dating
as a kid, and you gave all that away.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah? Sure, maybe, But I don't. I was so in
love with the dream that that I just that that's
something that just never existed. But but but but but then,
but then what about this?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Though you're in high school with those with such an
elite mindset, were you able to even communicate with the
kids around you, Like, was it hard to to to
talk to them and make friends? And was it hard
because you were thinking on such a different level.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I think that's one of the things that maybe I
could have had a little bit more fun, like if
you know what I'm saying. But yeah, and naturally, I've
always kind of been naturally since the beginning, I've always
been cocky. There's always been a little cockiness to me,
you know what I'm saying, prior to even wrestling, prior
to even winning, there's just a belief. But it was
it was kind of it was a belief but almost

(37:37):
to a more of extent, like I'm gonna show you
that I'm gonna fucking taunt you and trow you while
I do it type of mentality. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. So I've kind of always been like that.
But obviously the wrestling did humble me so that even
part of my retirement, I was so far into wrestling
that the year of two thousand and seven, year there

(37:59):
World Championships, trained my ass off to did the whole thing.
Didn't score a point at the World Championships. I fucking
didn't just didn't do anything. Got tacked by the Iranian
first match, And I feel like that's the time where
like my like the love of the like the pain
we're talking about pain, pain, the pain started to really
just take a toll on me. Nothing nothing physical, but

(38:20):
just the pain of hurt. But still then I still
kept my the project. I still had that dream while
feeling that hurt, Like I still believed in the dream,
like you know what I'm saying, Like, but man, I
was struggling to really still try to keep that dream
and kind of still fucking feed it and elevate it
and give it shine and feed it water, you know

(38:41):
what I'm saying, Yeah, while still feeling that pain. So
I started kind of struggling there, and I think that
was year that I was like, man, I'm getting I'm
getting sick of this shit.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
You started to burn out a little bit, as you
would expect.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, but yeah, I think maybe burn up maybe just
maybe just more just getting sick of it, like like
like I just didn't want to feel the pain of losing.
So a lot of people asked me, like, dude, what
was the secret to become Olympic champion? I was like, bro, yeah,
of course it was desire. Of course it was a dream,
childhood dream, but it was it was probably more of
not feeling the pain of losing that wanted me the

(39:19):
Olympic Games. I did not want to feel that shit,
Like you know what, I'm saying like I had, even
even in begen Bro, I had thought about fucking jumping
on the plane and just leaving, Like you know what
I'm saying. It was like, dude, I've worked my whole
life in these next two weeks, like shit's about to
go down, and what if I don't win? Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. And that's all I was gonna say. Man,
did you feel like you had to win?

Speaker 1 (39:38):
A lot of people made a lot of sacrifices for
you to be who you are and there's a lot
of pressure that comes with uh, not doing it. But
when you tell me I thought about maybe just flying off,
Like was that a fear of failure for yourself? But
also coach Brands, Coach Shackson, coach you know everyone that

(40:01):
did it. Or was it more just internally like I've
got to get this done for myself?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, yeah, no, it was it was that it was
like I'm so I've given so much, you know, I've
given so much that now it's like like killed me,
Like in order for you to like to beat me,
Like like you're gonna have to kill me, man, Like
if I lose, like I'm going out I'm going out
swinging like that, like that type of like like never

(40:28):
have I felt that before, Like I was so committed
and to even know that I was done wrestling after
this tournament, like I knew that I did not want
to do this shit no more. So it's the same
reason why I gave them my all. It's the same
reason I was fucking you know. Twelve hours later, Bros.
I can see the American flag quiver up, and then
I can hear the national ath I'm like, what the fuck?

(40:50):
So even when I did win, and it was special
to me because even when I grab that even when
I grabbed that flag, I thought about it so much
when I was a little kid that I thought about
my whole childhood and everything that kind of happened. But
it was like a relief. Yeah I knew it, like
I knew it if I just dedicated, still kept that

(41:11):
dream alive that if I put every ounce that I
had that it would it would it would happen to
So a lot of it was fucking sadness too. Yeah,
it was like a sadness victory. Just say, hey man,
I don't want to do this no more, but here
you go, like you gave me everything.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
But that comes from the pressure because again, Henry, everybody
expected you to do well from a little boy. When
you win far go as many times as you have,
and maybe you didn't recognize the pressure. Maybe you didn't
recognize all that expectation and when you did it, and
it's like a relief off of you. But when you
win that gold medal that you've dreamt about for so long,

(41:46):
did it feel finished? Did the story feel finished? Did
anything feel like left in wrestling? Or you're like, man,
I am complete?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
No, yeah, I am complete. Like my goal is never
to be a Jordan Burrows with you. Who fuck man?
I admire dudes that could just complete wrestle, win world titles,
Olympic games, like bro. I admire those dudes more than anybody.
Swear to god, I just wanted to become a world champion.
When I felt that dose of becoming the best in
the world, Bro, it's just priceless. Man. It's like, it's like, bro,

(42:18):
like what I thought Michael Johnson felt it was fucking
a hundred times at it was fah. You know, I
was like whoa. I'm like whoa. It's like you reach
every emotion. It's unexplainable. It's just a it's a fucking
It's like if you hit up the best drug ever
and you're just happy, sad, all these emotions run through
your body and it gives you a movie of your

(42:40):
whole experience. We're just like, man, this is what this
is what death in life feels like. Ooh, it's hard
to because I tried.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
I want to do when the Olympics very bad. Like,
I know how hard it is to do what you did.
We talked about your family, your mom. Obviously, your brother
Angel plays a big part in your life. You know,
you guys have done so many things together, but you
guys have dealt with highs and lows in your family, Like,
how have you dealt with all the ups and the downs?

(43:11):
Obviously you guys had a terrible tragedy in your life
very recently. How have you dealt with all those ups
and downs in the family, especially after becoming who you are,
the Olympic champ, the world champion. You know, losing the
sibling is as hard as anything you do. How have

(43:31):
you dealt with all of that?

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Man? Ah, man, it's fuck. That's a good one. DC.
I mean, I know, I'm kind of I'm kind of Yeah,
that one's hard. Man. It's uh, you know, something's just
you know, something's just hurt. Yeah, and uh, but it's
it's also it's also like beautiful too, mana to feel

(43:54):
those emotions, you know, like uh, my sister man who
passed away, you know, twenty twenty three about it's going
on three years. Man, it's uh, it was It's I
think that's the hardest thing that's happened to the family, man.
You know, because she played a big role as a
mother man, Like because my mom, you know, God bless her, man,

(44:15):
she did her best that she could do. But my
sister played like a big role in like being that
mother figure, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And to
see her like go at the age of forty, like
five days shiver, forty first birthday, it's just it just hits, man,
It just it hits really hard. But I think life

(44:36):
has also prepared us for that, the those circumstances of
having freaking you know, it is a CPI CPA. What's
the child protecting from leaving from us, leaving from place
to place and things like that. It's just being raised
so young, at a very young age, it's just it's

(44:59):
just somewhat engraved in you. And I think it teaches
you man that we're just you know, we're just we're
all journeyman to this life. We're all gonna die, man,
you know what I'm saying. And man, even my sister, man,
she's super super gangster like, she was like no, man,
like I'm I'm I'm ready to go, man, really so
we're able to all be there. I was just like Fox,
She's like, yeah, you don't want to go through the
whole things like no, I want you guys to see

(45:20):
me like this. And she fought men, she fought to
the very very damn it. And that's something that I
could just admire you from somebody. But I and and
I don't know if you've gone through this DC, but
always even telling like like sister like it's like that's it, man,
Like we're all going to go one day like well,
I'll see you later type of thing. Yeah, you know

(45:41):
what I'm saying. It was just like God, you don't
know how strong your family is or how strong you
are until some shit like that happens and you're just
able to face it and accept it. Yeah, that's the
hardest part. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Once you accepted, though, then you realize, like my when
my mom past, I was so against it.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I did everything right.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
When you start to get tough money right, you start
you want to keep them here, so you start spending
and spending and spending, and you're trying everything in your
power to do everything you can to keep them here.
And then when they go, it's almost like as you realize,
like you might have been a little selfish because my

(46:24):
mom was suffering, right, but because we didn't want to hurt.
We were trying to keep her here and she was
hurting because my dad passed. Once my dad passed, my
mom was like she was on just a walk to
the finish line. She didn't want to be here anymore.
We just kept giving her that we needed her. And

(46:47):
it was like, once I can accept that she was
probably resting in a better place, now, I'm like, I'm
happy because she wasn't the person at the end that
I knew the strength that I I uh found from her, right,
it wasn't there. And so I think when we accept

(47:07):
that you're right, we're all gonna go and just be
happy with the time that we had with him. It's
It's amazing and I'm glad that you guys got the
time with your family and with your sister, and she
was able to impart a lot of wisdom and knowledge
on you guys. You know, you've lived a life in
the public eye. When it's all said and done, what

(47:29):
do you want people to like not remember you for? Like,
what do you want them to understand about Henry Sahudo?
Because understanding Henry Sahudo is much different. I think once
people watch this to have a better idea thinking what
do you want them to understand about Henry Sudo?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
I think maybe I'll get more fans DC somebody, somebody
that had a dream that just went for it, that
was willing a sack or fives man that was willing
to really go out to put the ego aside, a humbleness,
even though I portrayed the triples, the cranes, a persona,

(48:10):
no somebody that was really an honesty, a humbleness to
him that said, hey, man, let's go out and actually
go for it like this fucking let's jump off this
plane and this skuy dive. You know what I'm saying.
I think that's the biggest thing. And I think that's
the only thing that I could honestly tell people and
even and even you know, with my career. But like
you know, I want to give back to see I
enjoy giving back, and I think that's the purpose in

(48:32):
life too. Man, how can we serve? You know what
I'm saying. And it's fulfillment too. And it's not a
fucking Miss Universe type ship like, no, it's it's real,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm I feel blessed
Daniel with my career, with everything that I've done in
combat spoil, there's there's such a satisfaction. But I think
now it's that it's that next It's that it's bringing

(48:53):
up that next generation.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
There's a little boy right now, little Mexican boy watching
that's gonna watch and he's gonna say, man, Peters Hudo
can do it.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
He might be in South central LA. He might be
in Gilroy. Right, We've got a lot of Mexican kids.
What do you tell that kid, right that that that's
dealing with the bad dad, with the CPS, with all
those things. Henry s Hudo, the Olympic champion, the two
time UFC champion, what do you tell that boy about
the struggle, because man, there's some dark knights for a

(49:24):
lot of those kids, some hard nights for those kids.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah. Man, that's it's it's part of life. You know,
you don't know what you don't know, and you know
your best friend is actually adversity. That's what makes you.
You know, when you have a better opportunity to really
make a difference, then you could do that for your
kids like I'm doing now, like you're doing with your kids.
But adversity is your friend, adversity is your home.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yes, I want to get I want it really fast
before I let you go. M may give you something
completely different than Chase. There was there a void once
you thought I'm so done with the wrestling. But when
there was not competition, was that void hard to feel?
That's why you started fighting them?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Maybe because I.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Never quite understood while you, Henry Suhuro, didn't say, you
know what, I'm just gonna go do something in wrestling
and make a boatload of money doing that. You chose
fighting though. Was it because there was just a void
in that part of your life that needs that competition?

Speaker 2 (50:23):
No, no, no, I just I was a fan of
the sport, like it wasn't a money graph, even though
at the end it kind of was. Yeah, it was
more of me being a fan of the game, and
I'm just like, whoa, like this is now you could
actually you know, It's just it was more of that,
you know what I'm saying. So it was, man, this
is back in the early two thousand. I remember as
a family in the two thousand and two thousand and

(50:46):
when we would rent like these videos of these vhss
of UFC one, two three, and I would see Mark Kerr,
Mark Coleman, Dan Henderson, Randy Couture, Chuck Ladell, like all
these Rostler's going in there just fucking dominates this the beginning,
since the beginning of the game. I'm like, man, I
want to be a part of that that, you know

(51:06):
what I'm saying. Yeah, So it was so it was
always admitted to do that, even though at one point
I was sick of competing already, Like I wanted to
do something obviously with his mind rather than always the
physicality of it. I never thought, Daniel, that I would
be competing at that for this long. Fuck, dude, I'm
about to turn thirty nine, dude. Yeah, you know, in
a couple of months. I'm sorry next month, in a

(51:28):
couple of weeks, February ninth.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
You've been, but you've been not even just competing, competing
at a high level, at the highest level. So I
don't think people will really ever fathom, you know, of
me like leaving, Like even in my prime when I
was thirty three years old, I was just it's that satisfact,
is that it's the satisfaction leaving on top. I tell
people I never fought in my athletic prime. The first

(51:56):
time I fought John Jones, I was thirty six.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
No, I agree, thirty. I tell people of that shit
we thought.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
The second time, I was thirty eight years old, I
had motor changes. Bro I had wrestled in my first
World Championship set sixteen. So I was till forty one,
twenty five years of competing at the highest level. So
I get what you're feeling. But Mma, you accomplished some
great things. So I asked the question the Olympic gold

(52:24):
medal moment, the double champion moment, which one to you
sits above?

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Oh man, the Olympics Man, Yeah, okay, because it's just
it's such a childhood dream, like you know, what in
the UFC town and you know this, broc, there's people
that have time like what the fuck, Like really, yeah,
that could become a UFC chad. Like, but there's just
something special about the Olympics. It's it's the oldest sport
in the world. It's you know, wrestling and marathon is

(52:51):
considered the oldest sport in the world. There's just something
that's just different about it that it's been around for
so long that you get the purity of the purity
in that sport were you got to be good everywhere. Yeah,
you know, it's just not just the fucking infamous right
hand or you know, top control. Yeah, like, bro, you
gotta have it all to be the you know, to

(53:11):
be the big the big kahuna. Yeah, you know, And
I think that's what.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
And then and then the reality is like when in
the UFC titles like a goal, winning the Olympics is
a fucking dream. Yeah, like bro, Like, You're just like
I would want to you would wait, I would wake
up after I want the Olympics. It's just that of
pure excitement. I couldn't sleep because I was like, I'm
an Olympic champion. I never really thought that with you. Yeah,
that's crazy. You know what I'm saying, Henry. Now you're

(53:37):
a dad, you're a husband, you're a businessman, real estate.
You in. I see your water company here right now.
What's it called. It's called one Water. This this thing
is gonna you guys are gonna you guys gonna remember
this right here. This is uh innovation technology of the year.
You know, we're launching here. Uh you know, it's already

(53:59):
in about close about a thousand stores here in America.
And the other unique side of this it's uh, you know, magnetic.
It's no, no, no, you think you would think it
is non check it out. It's just the plastic of it,
you know, it's it's the way that it's actually pre
formed and it's able to stick. They fit into each other. Yeah,
they do. This is pretty good, Henry. Yeah. So these
are these are some of the projects man, that that

(54:21):
I'm involved. You know, I own fifteen homes on about
you know, by the end of this year, I'm probably
gonna have close to about seventy. I don't think people know,
Like if I think people see the grunge, but if
you really start to dissect and see the you know,
the the ambitions side of business that I have. I'm
doing very very well.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
How do you How did you apply that all the
lessons from the mat into business.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Well, it's just it goes back to that little kid
that I don't. I don't. Maybe I don't want to
go back to that little kid again. You don't. I don't.
I'm telling you because it is real, because it is real,
and you could go back if you do stupid shit.
You know what I'm saying, So me be speaking about
it now. Yeah, maybe there is a little bit of
haunting of going back to that ground stomach, which is crazy. Yeah.

(55:08):
And your kids, Oh my kids are good, dude. They
have no idea man boy boys. Yeah, there is he
going to wrestle? I hope so. I hope so, but
I cannot push it. Pablo, we were talking about him earlier.
He's good man. We kept them as a little kid.
We kept them as the kids because when we kept them,
all the sport he could watch. When did he start
wrestling like twelve? Dude?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
See sort of thing is like when he went to
Fargo the first time and got beat that was expected
because guess what, he hadn't experienced it yet. But because
he's got a life in there, and it's it's my
son now is not having the success that he wants.
And I told him, maybe your success comes later. I'm
his dad more than his wrestling coach, and I worry

(55:51):
that sometimes that might may be too soft on him.
But I trust that I've given him enough skill that
it'll come together for him as long as he keeps
working hard.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, it'll it'll eventual, it'll eventually hit man, like, the
skills and all that will eventually come in. If he's
you know, if he's you know, obviously he's around, he's
a round fog. I mean, you got one of the
top schools in the country as well. Yeah, but yeah,
I can only say, hey, man, that's a that's a
one man journey. Only he knows. He knows, and and

(56:20):
I think the biggest thing is when he makes that decision,
you gotta be that for him. Well, yeah, when he
makes that decision, you just got to support. Because I
told that to probably dude, I'm kind of I was
kind of like a little dick to my nephew a
little bit. I'm like, what, who the fuck? Like, you
know what I'm saying. I had a kind of like
me and my brother almost started fighting a couple of times.
Why because I was just kind of hard. I'm like, dude,
you're better than that. You're better than that, Like why,

(56:42):
Like what the hell is going on to your Your
dad is like a technician, a wizard, he is genius,
and I'm like, why is this stuff going on? Dude?
Like losing passion, which was wrong.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
It's just hard to see somebody you love and not
get it, not give their full potential.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
But when he did, I'm just like, I'm like, pubbido,
that's what I'm talking about. Once you made that decision,
it all changed. So then I took him to the
World Championships. When he won Fargo, I saw yo. Yeah,
so he was able to watch. He's like, no, this
is my gift to you as your uncle. I'm taking
you VIP. We're going doing the whole nine and then boom,
his eyes just started glowing. It's like, bro, like I

(57:19):
understand what you're saying, Like I want to be a
World championaire, Yeah, an Olympic. I truly do. And that's
it's like, and you could do it.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
That's the best. What you leave behind is what people
are going to remember for all those titles are great,
but ultimately it's about the world you leave behind.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Are you going to leave it better than you found it? Henry?
I think so yeah? Or better yet? I know so yeah?
I know. So it's all you can do, you know.
Thank you for joining me, my guy.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Guys, that was Henry Suhudo, fantastic fighter, wrestler, father coach.
I just hope he doesn't start coaching too much because
then his kids will start beating my kids and we
can't have that.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
We just can't have that.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
For joining me, check out his water company and support
everything this young man does.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
He is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Also, go watch POUMP for punk as him and Kamara
Usman's great podcast.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Great podcast.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Uh, those guys do a tremendous job. Until next time, guys,
check tap in everything I'm doing. Hold on a second
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Speaker 2 (58:28):
Peace,