FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Awards Show + Reacting to Our Preseason HOT TAKES! (Ep. 1930) - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How come in, everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the
Fantasy Football Podcast. Is me Joey p Joe Pi Zafia
And if you don't know now you know it's award season, baby.
That's right, we're giving out the hardware for fantasy and
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Fantasy Pros as well. Participation trophies Welsh, you've got young kids.
I know they haven't done as many sports stuff more
than the entertainment business. But when it comes to all

(01:27):
the dance stuff, do you get all the participation trophies
in the dance world.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh yeah, that's what it's built around. There's trophies, and
there's medals, and there's seventh place and stuff like that.
I feel like we're about but all of that aside.
I feel like we're about to get a whole soapbox
about participation trophies and this generation and in mi ja,
are you about to do that to us, old man?
Are you about to tell us about how participation trophies

(01:51):
and they're not fantasy owners. Aren't some real fantasy owners?
That's how you says fair? That is exactly try not
to get canceled this I started explaining what you a being.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
But hey, Andrew Rickson, what's the greatest trophy you ever
won in your life?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Probably getting here on time five minutes before the show?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Getting here on time five minutes before the show.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I won a couple of awards for bodybuilding, you know,
ten to go, So those give us.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Give us one, just give us a some some kids.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Same.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, those were really hard to get. Bodybuilding is a
very very difficult sport, as I'm sure you can all imagine,
So winning those types of awards and trophies because people will,
it's very clear who put the work in and who didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's very very obvious. Everybody watching you like.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
That transition on purpose as we get this Scot bogmin about.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah, some of us put in the work, some of
us don't. That's true.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
And you can tell.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Trophy wise, what matters more to you an individual trophy
or another Steelers super Bowl trophy.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
I'm I mean, I don't have any individual trophies, so
I'll take the Steelers trophy.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
That's good with me.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
I mean, I mean I had a bunch of little
league trophies. I was the worst player on the best team.
So uh, that's the kind of trophy I got, the
glam On Trophy, the Coattail Trophy, so uh, you know,
I just look, my trophy comes with the best line
of every show that I do.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
That's my trophy.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
One.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
That's a good way of looking at all. Right, let's
get to some hardware. Let's start with the big one here,
the Fantasy MVP. I'm gonna give three nominees for every award.
The guys are gonna quickly discuss, do a little vote
or a little round the roundtable here, and we'll see
if we can get a consensus winner. Let's start here
with the Fantasy MVP, and we've got Christian McCaffrey obviously

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a great season, so many, so many touches, my goodness.
We'll see how that ranking works out next year. A breakout,
incredible season for Jackson Smith and Jigba. I got to
hand it again to our good pal Jake seely, he
talked about him more than anybody else that I recall
in the preseas, and I some people liked him, but
he loved him and he was one hundred percent right.
And of course Puka Nakua, who had a tremendous season

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and showed up when it mattered most in the playoffs
with some big games, one of which beat me in
a final. Scott Bogman pounded me into submission there, So, Boggs,
I don't know if that's going to excuse you. But
who's your vote for Fantasy Football MVP for twenty twenty five?

Speaker 6 (04:24):
CMC for me, And this was Meat and Crowe a
little bit as well. Like I've always loved CMC. I
was the biggest person on him coming out of college,
I feel like, but the injuries adding up, you know,
obviously a bunch of deep playoff runs, as the Welsh
knows for his team, and then he only played four
games in twenty twenty four. I thought maybe this is

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the back nine. He's had a lot of touches. He
went and got the secret sauce in Germany or whatever
it was, and he looked incredible. He scored I think
sixty five more points than JSN over the course of
the season, and a half PPR as well.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
So for me, it's got to go to CMC.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
All right, CMC is your boy? So are you also
team CMC for MVP?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I think he's the I've got an award for him later.
This is not just the fantasy Yeah, no, it's not
a participation trophy. It's very important trophy. It's very good. Actually,
Joe just kind of tease what the award name is.
But we've got these actual awards, and then we've got
some of our created awards coming up in a little bit,
and I'm also glad we're going to be looking. I
think it takes because I had a lot of positive

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takes on Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Those are the ones they clip.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I hope they did, shutting people like bagmen up.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
But here's what I will tell you, not a single one.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
That is not my pick. That's not going to be
my pick. I think he's the Consistency Award. I think
what he did was phenomenal. Specifically in the receiving game.
I think it's Jackson Smith and Jigba and and I
do know from like a points per game perspective, he
did score less than Pukinakua. But I thought JSN just
came out of absolutely nowhere, especially looking at like the

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Fantasy Football MVP. You got to pair JSN with one
of these guys like you had to take Pooker you
had to take CMC in the first round. You got
to pair him with being you know, I mean, for
like the first half of the season, like the number
one fantasy wide receiver in the land, and he kind
of tailed off a little bit towards the back end
of the season. But I would say JSN is my

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pick if you pare down the playoffs and if you
go just week one through fifteen, he did score the
most points per game in half PPR eighteen point four
versus Pokinaku is a ten point one. This is on
Fantasy pros. You can actually check the fantasy points per week.
So going through week fifteen, one week in the playoffs,
he was the number one guy. So I'm gonna say

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JSN JSN is the Fantasy football MVP.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
One vote JSN, one vote CMC. Andrew Rickson, where are
you put in your vote?

Speaker 4 (06:49):
I am a clave to the spreadsheets, to the numbers,
and CMC scored more points per game than everyone that
played football this year not named Josh. So if that
doesn't get you an MVP, I don't know what does.
So give me Christian McCaffrey as the Fantasy Football NDP.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
All right, so there you go. So I think Welsh
kind of was like who's your pick? Though passive aggressive
on us, getting us to you know, I was like,
you know, I love you so great, but I'm not
gonna over over somebody.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Jason might have been the best deal.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean maybe, and maybe that's I'm looking at
it a little bit like like is.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
The best deal? But I think when you when you're
looking at in terms of consistency, I would have picked
JSN two because the amount of one hundred yard games
he had, the amount of you know, ten touchdowns there
and you know in the seventeen games. To me, like,
that's what I want, consistency. Seventeen hundred receiving yards and
most people play PPR now to you, and I know,
like CMC had some really great games and was very

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consistent as well, but JSN was high level consistent, was
every single week. So that's where I would go on
that one. All right, let's me okay, I am with
you actually, so we could split it. Let's put it
to the people you.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Do with you against the Niner.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, I mean, weird, what what is happening here? Just
let's do a different kind of MVP. The MVP for
the playoffs. Now Pooka finds himself in this list as
well as does Derrick Henry who crushed me and my
hopes and dreams in my most important finals, so that
was great. And that same team also had Bejon Robinson
on it as well. So Welsh, I'll let you go

(08:15):
first in this one. I know we all played in
a lot of playoff games and a bunch of finals
between the four of us, but not all of them
turned out the way we wanted them to turn out.
Who do you think really carried people to that championship, Welsh, Well,
it's start with you on this one.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, I mean, I'll use I'll use Ericson's line here.
If you're going to be a product of the sheets
and the stats, it's Bjon Robinson. If you're looking at
week fifteen through seventeen and half PPR, the number one
non quarterback score and the number one the number three
overall player all quarterbacks included was Bjon Robinson. Bijon scored

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twenty five or more points in each of those three games.
Like Puka Nakua had maybe one of the loudest, he
had that like crazy, loud, ridiculous game that probably just
vaulted people, but Bijon owned the playoffs fifteen sixteen, fifteen
twenty five point five, sixteen twenty six point three, seventeen
point thirty seven point four half PPR. I think Bijon

(09:14):
Robinson is going to take that mantle for me Ericson.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Agree with all the points that Walsh made about Bejon
being the highest score weeks fifteen sixteen seventeen and the
fact that Bjeon Robinson did it in the last game
of Week seventeen Monday night. He brought teams back from
the dead that were facing massive holes, that were facing
Pooka Nakua. Oh no, I'm gonna lose my matchup.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
You look up.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Bijeon puts up a thirty thirty five point burger on
the Rams with the Falcons being massive underdogs. It's Bjon
Robinson for me, all right, bogs clean sweep here.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Hook him RB four, RB five, RB two. By the way,
I want to say Pooka because that is what beat
you for me in the championship, Joe, But it's gotta
be Beeon. Bijeon give me the mustard man here and
by the way, shout out to mister Trabalta.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
I keep forgetting to mention him.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Won the Out of Bounds Championship against mister Trabalta. Congratulations
on your championship. I just haven't mentioned him for whatever
reason I forgot last.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Week one out of Bounds got so cool. I got
to play with the league with Bogman. Believable, uh Bjon
Robinson real quick, yes or no, number one overall pick
next year Bogs Yes or no? Yeah, Erickson sure.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well less enthusiastic, check check yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I said yes or no, and I only got one yes.
And I got two other verifications they.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Were not yes sure and check wells.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yes two factor authentication. I can make sure for another
text message. I got a fingerprint, I got a whole thing.
All right. Let's go to breakout players of twenty twenty five.
Your nominees are This one hurts a little bit, I
know for Andrew Ericson. Tucker Craft is on this list.
He was so good before things went so bad within
Drake May certainly another one of our favorites around here,

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especially in super flex leagues. And George Pickens, who had
a fantastic season. It's gonna get that bank somewhere. We'll
see where it is. So Andrew Erickson, who was the
breakout of twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Five s Drake May no debate. I will hear no
other argument for any other player besides Drake May. Third
highest scoring player in fantasy football, behind only Josh Allen
and Christian McCaffrey in half PPR scoring. He was a
player that anybody could have drafted, could have had Drake
Man every single one of your fantasy football teams where
he was being drafted. He is the no doubt breakup

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player for me.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, almost a thousand yards more passing as well for
Drake May over Josh Allen this year thirty one touchdowns
to twenty five. Fantastic year. Of course, Josh Allen's going
to have more rushing yards, but Drake May have four
hundred and fifty to Josh Allen's five to seventy nine.
Look on here, it's the fourteen rushing touchdowns. It makes
Josh Allen such a separator and fantasy obviously Scott Boga's

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go to you breakout player of these.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
Three Dudeske May is the Drake May of all. Drake
May's uh it has to be Drake May. And I
also feel like you have uh shifted this. I feel
like this award wasn't necessary here because it was clearly
Drake May, and you just put it on here so
we would have to talk about.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
You're like, hey, this guy that was out half the
season and we can throw him in here like you
might have. You might have definitely like, wait.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Got the biggest man child in the NFL? The guy
who missed half the season or Drake.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Who do you want to take here for breakout player?

Speaker 6 (12:30):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, it's Drake of May. He's the clear cut. I
will say, just.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
If you want to write in somebody right now, you can,
but you're gonna piss off the graphics department.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Tell many of the five best quarterbacks of all time.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Drake May, Drake May, Drake.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Hey, you guys want to hear you guys want to
hear a fun fact about Drake May.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yes, I love Drake May.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's a great fact. That is a great fact. That's
a that's a really good fact. I'll just I just
want to point out, though George Pickens did thank you,
I still don't know what I was so upset about
that we were talking about anybody that Drake May matters.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I don't think it matters.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
No, it doesn't I want to Dickens. George Pickens weeks
one through seventeen was the third in points per game
as far as wide receiver, very very impressive season. Obviously
hasvaulted himself into like a wide receiver one. This is
Drake May by Landslide.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
There weren't a lot of breakouts, I feel like this year.
I mean, it was a very strange fantasy season.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I think, let's just call this the Drake May Award.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Well, next year we will, but we had to give
it to him first, and then well, the inaugural Drake
May Breakout Player of the Year. That's what we're gonna
call it next year. All right, let's talk about Rookie
of the Year nominees Tenorolla McMillan for the Carolina Panthers,
Traveon Henderson for the Newland Patriots, and r J. Harvey
or the Denver Broncos. Welsh let's kick this off. Who
was your pick for Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
So this is hilarious just because this kind of comes
back to something I heart, maybe annoyingly on is that
like Travion and r J. Harvey, they did do the
thing that I always complain about where people are, Oh,
this is the sucond round play. He should be super valuable,
and then they're not valuable for like seven or eight weeks,
and then they're amazing and everybody's like I told you so,
and it's like, well, you practically cut the guys. The

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guy that doesn't fall along that list is Tetero, McMillan,
Trevan Henderson immense talent and we saw it full boar.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
R J.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Harvey definitely had his moments, But to me, this is
Tetero and McMillan again, looking weeks one through seventeen, we
don't care about eighteen. Tetuoa in a total points was
thirteenth overall in wide receiver, so that is number one
wide receiver two of the game. I thought he was consistent.
I thought he lived up to his value. Travion and
r J. Harvey did not do that on a weekend
and week out basis. So I think McMillan is the

(14:39):
clear rookie of the year for Fantasy full boar.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I just want to say this, the shot here of
r J. Harvey in the orange Crush uniform with the
blue helmet god such a good look old the throw
he might be but the throwback Denver Bronco blue helmet
there with the big D the orange crush.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
That's pretty elite.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
That is pretty lea elite throwback uniform. Scott Bogmin Rookie
of the Year Zoo.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
I'll be different. I'll say Travion Henderson. And it's not
his faulty. He can get the ball.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
For half the year.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
He still averaged more points per game than all these guys.
So I think it's got to be Travion. You know
he was. He was a factor in special teams before
this as well. We're talking about fantasy. It's a little
closer as well. But you could pick any of these guys.
They are all very good. The numbers are all very
similar in terms of points per game. But Travon Henderson

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did it on fewer touches than the other guys.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
So give me Trey Eric Sting.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
You want to break the tie here.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yes, I am not buys in any way because I
did bet on test Rugbin Millen to win Offensive Rookie
of the Year in the offseason, one of my only
futures bets that actually might have a chance of hitting
as we start to see, but he's the favorite to
win Offensive Rookie of the Year in the real life
NFL and someone connected to how they do.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
As fantasy producers.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
To Welsh's point, he was the only one of these
rookies that was actually productive for the entire year.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
From week one.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
He stepped in as the alpha in a Carolina Panthers
passing attack seventeen or eighteen weeks of Bryce Young as
his quarterback, and he manages his way to get to
over a thousand receiving yards in this amazing running back class.
We had zero guys hit a thousand rushing yards, but
we had one receiver hit a thousand receiving yards and
his name was Tetoa McMillan.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
So yeah, I like here, I wanted to and I
was like, you know, I just don't know, Gent, I mean,
Genty was kind of lackross for he had I had
the yardist shortals. I mean, I wouldn't have voted for
him over these guys, would you?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
I think too, it's not even about like the rookies
versus some of the rookies, And I would agree, I
don't think that gent anyone that drafted him. Again, you
look at the counting stats. Denty finished ahead of most
of these guys, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Because we're drafted any more.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Touches right, exactly right, and I would say too relative
to the position. T Mac wide receiver two for fantasy
was really bad this year. So if you actually had
McMillan as your wide receiver too, that was an edge
that you had every single week because he was significantly
better than a lot of the other wide receiver twos
and threes that were really bad. But at running back,

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so many of the veterans were excellent this year, so
you didn't really have an edge with either Harvey or Henderson,
especially in the beginning of the year, where I mean, look,
people were cutting Tevon Henderson. Can the MVP really get
cut or Rookie of the Year really get cut again?
Obviously both had second half surges with high and spike weeks,
but the full body work were counting all seventeen weeks.

(17:24):
I would give it to t Mac all right.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
He only had two touchdowns, by the way, for the
first ten weeks of the season. They both came in
one game against the Cowboys. Then after Week eleven he
had a bunch more. He had five more down the stretch,
So I'll go along with tedor Roll McMillan as well.
Waiver Wire hero nominees. Again, I think this one's a
slam dunk, but we'll see what the guys have to say.
Michael Wilson, Oh boy, when Marvin Harrison Junior was out,
Michael Wilson played. He bawled out Rico Dowdell. Not too

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shabby guy, almost a thousand yards rushing there off the
waiver wire. And then Matthew Stafford potential League MVP for
those of you who lost Joe Burrow early on or
you know we're just looking and trying to find some
quarterback help. Well, Matthew Stafford certainly was that Scott Bogman
who was the waiver wire hero in your mind in
twenty five.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
I mean, this one is absolutely not close. It is
Michael Wilson in a landslide. The only reason Matthew Stafford
was a waiver wire guy is because he had the
back thing going into the season. I think if he
hadn't had that, I think people would have been way
more high on him. Rico had a great year, you know,
taking that job away from Cuba. Definitely worthy of being

(18:30):
a nominee here. But it's Michael Wilson in a landslide
here for me, guy had over a thousand yards. Dude
never stayed healthy at Stanford. So to see him stay
healthy with the Cardinals and be as productive on a
week to week basis, specifically when you have Drey McBride,
you have Marvin Harrison there as well, you have other
big targets. For him to be one of the better

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targets on that team one of the better players on
that team was very impressive.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
So Michael Wilson for me, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
The first seven weeks of the season, he had basically
one hundred and fifty yards receiving. Just keep that in mind, Welsh,
is it Michael Wilson the landslide for you as well? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I mean I guess that. Like there's a little part
of me that wants to like start picking knits a
little bit on this because like Matthew Stafford was like
the third highest scoring quarterback, like if if we truly
viewed him as like the waiver wire, like I don't know, man,
like he carried your team. I think what Michael Wilson
did is incredible, But like I'm falling into the like
I kind of don't consider Matthew Stafford like the waiver wire,

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like he's in the quarterback streamy type of world. And
I think he got picked up and was held at
the beginning of the year. So like the truest sense
of the world, like Michael Wilson was that that was
halfway through the year. This guy did it in the
entire second half. He hit a thousand yards, absolutely was
able to be like a wide receiver two and carrying team.
So I'm going to say Michael Wilson is the guy.

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But there's kind of like me wanting to pick apart
the idea of the waivers because like, we can't dismiss
Stafford the number three scoring quarterback again either as.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Like forty seven hundred yards passing. I do not think
you can dismiss.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
But you said, but like Bob said, this isn't even close,
and you are inferring that this isn't close. And I
don't know if you mean because it's Stafford.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Oh I don't.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
I don't think that Stafford would have been a waiver
wire guy had he not had the back issue going
into the season.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
But he was. He went from do not draft, Oh
my god, this guy can't move to possibly League MVP.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
You know what, Actually, I'm gonna have to say Stafford.
I'm'm sorry, I'm gonna have to say Stafford if we
are holding true to this, because I want to be like, no,
this isn't a true waiver, but if if we are
truly counting him, he's the third highest scoring quarterback. He
carried you this season. He was ridiculous. It is it's Stafford.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's Stafford, ericson Stafford, Dowbdell, Wilson, who is it?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
It's not Freco Dowdell, It's not.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I have three guys for the graphic. I did my best. Okay, no, no.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Hey, credit to you.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
He's worthy.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I guess for me, it's a pretty good year for Rico.
Just say like he fell off.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
It was a good month, he's good.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Three week he was not.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
He was not helping people out in the playoff weeks.
So for me, it's it's Michael Wilson. I kind of
feel similar to Welsh where Matthew Stafford. Yes, technically he
qualifies as a waiver wire.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Player, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
It just doesn't feel like he was at least all
one of my leagues I played in where he was available.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
So I mean, I'm discrediting again.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
According to the numbers, he was a waiver wire guy,
So I do think that he does make sense to
hear to be up for this award. But when it
comes to again, wide receiver two was one of the
worst positions in fantasy this year. Who rose above that.
His name was Michael Wilson. And the thing with Michael Wilson,
there was no hesitation on, oh do I start this
guy or not? Is Marvin Harrison Junior playing or not?
If he wasn't playing, Michael Wilson, his production was the

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same as Pooka Nakua, who've already talked about in two
separate awards already on this show. So nineteen point five
points per game, Michael Wilson. He was the wide receiver
four in points per game, wide receiver three overall from
Week ten onward. So when you needed a boost the
most in your fantasy lineup to make a run, it
wasn't a rookie running back. It wasn't one of these
rookie receivers that was fueling your lineup to a championship.

(22:00):
It was mister Michael Wilson doing that. So he is
my waiver wire hero.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
All right, So there you have it, Michael Wilson gets
the award. Let's go to the Sleeper of the Year nominees.
I looked on the Fantasy Pro sleeper list, and I
gotta tell you it was ugly. Okay, I went back
and looked at the rankings. If I read you some
of the names on those sleeper rankings, ooh depressing?

Speaker 4 (22:22):
How is Bill not on here?

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Married Well, I because I think he got He got
hyped to the point where he wasn't a sleeper anymore. Wait,
actually got the draft season. It's true, he was, all right,
So calman on guy, my guy, your guy, Everyone's guy,
Wandelle Robinson, Kyle Pitts, Ericson. Not only anybody was bigger
on Pits on the rebound than fits the credit to
our boy Pat fits more. Who is the sleeper of

(22:46):
the year from these three guys.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah, it's Kyle fits all right. He is the quick
essential post post post post post hype sleeper. But he
ended up finally hitting here. He was a tight end
two overall in Fantasy and that week fifteen to kick
off the Fantasy Football playoffs with a forty point performance
at an historic tight end game on primetime on Thursday

(23:08):
Night Football. Everyone's going to always remember where they were
when Kyle Pitz had that game. I was here at
my house watching it on my TV. It was fantastic.
Kyle PINNs sleeper of the year. All right, Bogman, Who's
the sleeper of the year for you?

Speaker 5 (23:21):
I mean, for me, it has to be Won Dale.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
I feel like I was the only positive one on
one Dale going into the season, specifically in PPR leagues.
And we argued on a show here with Jake Seely's
like Wan Dale needed one hundred and fifty targets to
get ninety six catches. I'm like, what is going to
be the difference? This year's still going to get those
same catches? And he did, and he was free in

(23:44):
every league. So Kyle Pitts was still a tight end
one almost rankings. Kyle Managai was drafted in most leagues
as at least a handcuff. Wandale was kind of free.
He was either drafted very late or undrafted in a
lot of leagues. It's gotta be Wandale for me.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, And see j C. M was a guy that
by the time we got to that like big draft
weekend he was not a free guy, not even close
to it anymore so at the end as well. So
he did fit well, but but look he still had
a very good season. But look at the names Jayden Higgins,
Marvin Mims, Cedric Tillman to Mario Douglas, Trey Harris, Rashad Bateman.
Those were guys that were ahead on wide receivers. JK. Dobbins,

(24:24):
Braylen Allen, Basiel tutin Oli, Gordon, Jaden Blue. It was
a tough year. Yeah, it's a tough year for the sleepers.
This was the little RB and wide receiver rankings going
into the year. Welsh, do you have a choice here?

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Wandell as well. Like I
will say, the lot of this list is just like
Monangai feels like the only traditional type of sleeper, like
Kyle Pitts is kind of a squirrel finds a nut
type of thing where it's like every year everyone's like
he's gonna do it, He's gonna do it, and it's like, okay,
odds say he's gonna do it at some point, and
it took you know what, five years for him to
finally do it. But I mean I guess in that sense,

(24:56):
like you know, where he finished, he was awesome, But
I think Wandale was like our friends weren't just like, okay,
that's fun, Bogman. Our friends were mean to Bogman.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Fitz don't even remembered this, by the way, wels Is reminded.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh yeah, seely was everyone that's lighted him or anyone
I've always.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Slights of the thing I remember the most FITZI is
the nicest person on the planet You've never seen. Fitzis
so dismissive of anything in any discussion than Wandell Robinson.
Like everybody hated Wandelle Robinson. So credit to Bogman on that.
But yeah, I mean he ended up finishing again using
the week once he's seventeen, not eighteen, finished thirteenth in
total points, like he was consistent. That was a huge value.

(25:40):
So I'm gonna go with Wandelle Robinson on this, but
I think Kyle Pitts is a good option as well.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Let me ask you guys this, because Metal James made
a good point. If we throw Alec Pearson this group,
does he shoot up to the top.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I think too little, too late.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean, because he was fun he's better than
Marvin Harrison. Bugs.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
He's gonna make a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I know somebody's gonna pay him. But you know, it's
funny when he goes after you, you're not you're not
prepared for it because he's so nice. But then when
he cuts him in, it's like getting shived in the yard,
you know, because he's so gewished the rat pa.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
It's also your feelings are hurt. Oh you didn't see.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
It vicious a gracious you should seem on the golf course,
it was even worse, all right, bust of the year.
Here we go some big time names and some first
and second round talent that just didn't quite hit. Justin
Jefferson certainly depressing. He was the top five overall guy.
Then Brian Thomas Junior going the first round of many drafts,
and Lad mcconkeey going somewhere in the early second. These

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were three of the biggest busts potentially of twenty twenty five.
So Welsh, why don't you start off with us? Who
is the biggest disappointment from last year?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Oh? I think like what was the award the Drake
May I think we can name this award the Brian
Thomas Junior Award, the inaugural Brian Thomas Junior I think
Brian Thomas is hands down the biggest bust. I think
Justin Jefferson feels it because it was so high, but
I don't think that was also so because of him.
Lad McConkie was a Brian Thomas was a disappointment at

(27:05):
every step of the season with that high cost. I
don't even think it's close. It is Brian Thomas. They
all stunk, unfortunately, but this is the Brian Thomas Award
moving forward.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
He ended up at wide receiver forty three at the
end of days, so it's pretty far down there.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Drafting him felt like the end of days too.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
Well.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
I can understand that, all right, Andrew Erickson, you were
mister Brian Thomas junior last year and you could have
been more right, but you were kind of you were
practicing a little bit of caution with him this year.
So I don't know how many shares that you had
Brian Thomas going into the season. He ended up with
seven hundred and seven receiving yards just two touchdowns. Was
he more of a disappointment than JJ who was a
top five guy?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:46):
This one is close for me between Brian Thomas Junior
and Justin Jefferson. And to your point about you know
how many shares of Brian Thomas Junior I in my
most important league. He was my keeper from last year
because I drafted him so late but super hyped about him.
He wasn't on my roster again. Ye I cut him
from my team. So that's why I'm actually going with
Jefferson as the biggest bus because there was a point
in the year where Brian Thomas Junior was cutable. You

(28:09):
weren't cutting Justin Jefferson. You kept playing Justin Jefferson every
single week because you're like, he's gonna turn it around.
He's got a great matchup and he kept killing your lineup.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
But he did have man eighty four receptions for one
thousand and forty eight yard.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
How many weeks did he win you your week?

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Well, I'll tell you this. How about this through through
week nine at least he was a wide receiver. Fourteen
he was still wide receiver. I mean, like that's usable.
He was a starting, a startable wide receiver in the
first half of the There's not a point where you
could put two or three weeks together where Brian Thomas
was ever startable the entire season. I get the argument

(28:45):
of Jefferson, but just to point out he was at
least the top fifteen wide receiver through the first half
of the season.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I agree with that it gets cut. I think DTJ.
That's why I'm leaning towards the BTJ settle it for
ut Bogs who was the biggest.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
Bust okay, So it's definitely Brian Thomas Junior, right, Like,
no question mind it was Brian Brian Thomas Jr. Because
he came in with not a lot of competition either.
It's like Travis Hunter, the rookie, was his competition. So
they're throwing to Parker Washington, they're throwing to Brenton Strange.
They traded for Jacobe Myers and extended him, and Travis
Hunter even went down and Brian Thomas Junior couldn't come

(29:18):
out of this tailspin. So it's definitely Brian Thomas Jr.
In my opinion. But I'll say I'll say this, like
Brian Thomas Jr. Ended up missing a couple of games,
so maybe he was dragging around the injury for a
little bit longer than we thought, and eventually missed those games,
but when he came back, he wasn't that good either.
Justin Jefferson had issues at quarterback. Obviously Macarthy went down early.
They had Carson Wentz, they had Max Brosmer. Lad McConkie

(29:39):
had no excuses to be this bat.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
And he still was this bat.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
So I'll make the point for Lad McConkie right like
you had Justin Herbert the whole year, and Quentin Johnston
got a lot of receptions. They were thrown to a
Rondez Gadston, they were throwing to Keenan Allen. Even Trey
Harris got in here and got involved a little bit,
and Ladd kind of just you know, for no reason.
I think we can point the reasons out for the
other two. For Lad, it was surprising because he didn't

(30:04):
really have the excuses that the other guys had. So
it's definitely Brian Thomas Junior. But I want to throw
a little shade at Lad too, even though I had
zero shares.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I'm glad somebody throws some shade at lot because we
were just talking about Jefferson Brian Thomas, and he deserves
some hate too, So own it. Lad mconkie be better
be better in twenty twenty six. So those were our
official Fantasy awards for twenty twenty five. And of course,
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All right, let's get to some awards of our own.
And I have an award too, It's the I Told
You So Award, and this year it goes to one
Saquon Barkley. I told you so, I said, guys with
four hundred carries in his season. The next year they

(31:17):
don't finish as RB One's and guess what he finishes
RB fourteen. So once again the historical data was out there.
There was so much data that we made a funny
video about it on Fantasy Proach and go to the
YouTube channel and you can watch the short right now.
Then shout out to Tyler who helped me make it.
There where we did the Incredibles, where all the capes
and the things, the guys who would die because of

(31:38):
the capes and superheroes, we did all the running backs
over the last twenty years who had four hundred carries
in the next year bottomed out and they were Hall
of Fame guy Curtis Martin, Incredible Towns, Edgrin, James. It
doesn't matter how great you are, they all come falling down.
Jamal Lewis did it twice. Saquon Barkley not the year
everybody was expecting.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
My favorite part of this, Joe, is that Saquon Barkley
is almost as tall as you.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
I mean, what, what, where, Joe?

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Where are your legs?

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Why am I representing the Lollipop Guild. I was standing
behind him, like standing over him, and then.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I thought you were on your knees. I thought you
were on your knees and.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Then no, I thought I was just standing over him
and there was a perspective until I saw the sneaking.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh my god, you can see the moment. You can
see the moment that I realized that your feet were
at where kneecaps should be. That is I want that
on a shirt. We have to have that on the shirt,
I say.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Ever, I always screws me over that stupid picture that
you made. A mean these balls easy where you look
really funny and adorable and I look like a monster
from the lagoon.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Joe goes, I told you sewing. I uh, I'm gonna
tell you. I also want an award for the if
I could have predicted what Joe Pias award title was
going to be. This is the the I told you
so is the most Joe piece of thing of all time.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
It's a burden, Jo, but it's a burden too to
have to bear this, and then after people tell you
over and over again, Nah, you're wrong, you're wrong, You're okay,
I'm not wrong. I did the homework, I did the math.
It's all there for you. I laid it out, even
in a funny video in case you don't like reading
what are you gonna do? Put in the black book

(33:26):
special note in the black book. People still ignored me. Wes,
Why did you give out an award? Because I know
you got one you want.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
To get I have two. I actually have two awards.
I want that.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Well, you can only get a graphic to one.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Oh do I only have a graphic for one?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Cot get a graphic for all? Right?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
This is the RBS are Dead Award. The running Backs
are Dead Award. And as you can see, oh we
got quite a few news's actually supposed to be six
or seven. Here are your RB finishes in half PPR
this year. McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, Bjeon Robinson, Gibbs, A Chan

(33:57):
Cook and Henry All. Set of those names are almost
the order of running backs that you were taking. We
have had so many years, so many years of it's
like okay, it's like running backs and wide receivers are
the only safe thing to do and they don't return
the value. Well, you want to talk about return value?
Every single one of these running backs. It was about

(34:18):
the order that you got. Christian McCaffrey stayed healthy. This
is the running backs. They're not so dead. And this
is the Sarcasm Award of it, and then I guess
if we don't have the other award, I would just
like to point out, Uh, the other award was the
HMM award. It's just called h and that award goes
to Christian McCaffrey. The award. Isn't it interesting the way.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
That's Welsh's version of I told you so is.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Thank you wasn't the same thing like you just did
what I did. You didn't call it I told you so.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
It's I'm about to do it too, so don't worry
about it.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Guys. Yeah, I just made it better. I just made
it better. I didn't make it so obvious.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
But it's the I am always because I'm transparent, whereas
you like to kind of you're that passive aggressive I
told yourself.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Not me.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
I'm just gonna come out there and tell you I'm right,
I wrong. I own it, I'm wrong, whereas Walsh's gonna
be like, boy, if only somebody was smart enough to
have said this at the beginning of the year. It's
you weird that we're.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Just the nice guys here.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, but we're just point out. The Running Back Dead
Award goes to all the people that fade the running back.
So they all came back through with the side Award
of the to Christian McCaffrey. And I'd also like to
point out, uh, why does the sideline is that like
the four twenty line right there?

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Look at that line, that's the zero zero line. Of
course everybody knows that. I would just like to know
why you look like a frost giant from well that is.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
That is actually more true in terms of the accurate signe.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I wonder how small my legs are.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
This comes out of the night with a full moon.
That's what he does. Look on the scoreboard in the
AI picture is no score, there's no time. This is zero.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, that's all that. That is all the point scored
for fading all of the running backs. Running backs dead award,
not so dead?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
All right, Eric's and pull us out of this tailspin.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Please, Speaking of pulling things out, the brig Roster Klogger
of the Year Award, Trey Benson, Jane Daniels, Garrett Wilson.
These players that every single week I got questions about
on discord on social media, Hey do I drop this guy?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Hold on this guy?

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Because we got conflicting injury reports to all of these
players all year long, where we didn't know you could
just outright cut them because oh, well, no, it seems
like they're going to come back at some point. And
then another week goes by, two weeks go by, four
weeks go by, and then week sixteen comes and oh yeah,
we're gonna put this guy in IR and he's never
gonna play again this season. So I'm giving these players
the award of roster cloggers, as you couldn't move them off.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Of your team.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
You had to keep them on your roster because they
were gonna get picked up by somebody else. But in
the end, all they did was waste a roster spot
on your fantasy football team. So I think at the
number one for me is probably Trey Benson because he
had the perfect run out right process. Behind Trey Benson
was James Connor's going to get hurt, Trey Benzon is
going to step in as at RB one. He had
one game where he stepped in and was a brutal

(37:11):
matchup against the Seahawks. He immediately gets injured. It's underreported,
and then the backfield turns into a three man committee
between Zonovan Knight, who actually could have been a waiver
wire guy considering how good or how serviceable he was,
and he was totally free. Michael Carter, Amar de Mercado
just total nonsense in the Cardinals backfields. So Trey Benson,
Jane Daniels I experienced with as a guy that I

(37:32):
didn't know what to do with. And then if you
held on to him and started him the last couple
weeks of the season, he was terrible.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
And then he got re injured again.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
And then Garrett Wilson Aaron Glen just slid to us
straight up saying, O, yeah, Garret Wilson will come back
at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Uh, never come.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
We knew that was going We knew they were going
to shut him.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I love, by the way, how Benson and Jadon Daniels
are in their college uniforms and Garrett Wilson is still
a Jet in this art. That makes it, by the
way good.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Garrett Wilson led the Jets in the receiving yards.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
By the way, which and he didn't have a catch
after weeks.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
After week six, that's amazing. Also, just for the record,
Andrew Erickson here in this shot looks like the picture
that comes with the frame. I look like a dwarf
and Welsh looks like a frost giant.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
I've never thought a person happier to be holding a plunger.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, you don't know ericson that, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
All right, let's go to Scott Bodman your award. You
got a bunch of awards. I don't know why you
get three.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
I had multiple because I'm the best uh so uh
most likely to be the Juggernaut award goes to Cam
Skataboo for sure. I mean this is, by the way,
this is my version of I Told you so or
award right here.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Is spelled juggernaut.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
I'm gonna say, who cares he can run him over?

Speaker 6 (38:44):
I know that so uh you know, obviously injured, but
great year leading into that.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
I like I robot legs because he didn't play the
whole season. You give an award like.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
That's how he comes back next year.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
Again, this is my I Told so award. Should have
had more touches award goes to Trevion Henderson for sure.
I mean, dude should have been getting these touches from
week one. For whatever reason, Mike Rabel is going to
be a hard o on rookies, so we just know
that moving forward, that sucks, but hopefully Anderson has way
more touches in his future. And the No One Believed
in Me Award because I don't remember a single human

(39:21):
being hyping up Javonte Williams at all, including any of us,
and he had an.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Excellent year for the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (39:28):
So the so my awards are most likely to be
the Juggernaut goes to Camp Scataboo should have had more
touches award goes to Trevion Henderson, and No One Believed
in Me Award is Chavonte Williams.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
You know, the one person that I heard even really
trying to talk themselves into it. I remember being on
a draft show at the end of the year with FITZI,
and FITZI was like, you know what, I'm gonna start
taking Javonte Williams just because I don't like and he
hated Jayden Blue. Oh my god, Fitzy hated Jayden Blue.
And he was like, the way I hate Aaron Rodgers,
I feel like he hates Jayden Blue. Here's only one

(40:00):
that I feel like was saying, you know what, what's
the worst that could happen? I ended up cutting him whatever,
but the upside is he's a good back who starts
every week on a really good offense.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I actually I had him in my draft guide on
Fantasy pros of like the players you're drafting on the rounds,
because I had quite a few shares. But I definitely
wouldn't I wouldn't try. Yeah, I wouldn't try to hype
it up that. I was like, you have to have
Javonte Williams. I drafted him. I think everywhere like.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Erickson holding a plunder hype.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
No, no, no. But I did like say, I'm drafting
Javontai Williams because everybody was like Jayden Blue, Jayden Blue,
Jaden Blue. It was all about him, and it was
just like, no, Javonte Williams. But you know, you know
he's flat with the horns and stuff.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
He's I am so happy that this did not draw
me a I did not try me.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, that's only because we didn't have standing photos of you,
so well we'll fix Hank guy.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, those are from our photo shooting. If people don't
know that photo shoot in Vegas, they were able to
take for.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Ye, mine was right from the Land of Oz. That's
where mine was. All right, let's get to the last
part of our show today, which is gonna be a
fun time because these three yocals decided to eat a
bunch of hot wings and give a bunch of hot
takes before the season started, and we're going to talk
about how good some of those predictions were. So to
begin here, let's start with Scott Bogman's take. See how

(41:11):
it ended up in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Let's start the hot takes off with mister Scott Bogman.
We have got an Amarillo sauce, which is a thirty
to fifty thousand Scoville. This take, like, this sauce is mild,
but will it be sweet? I kind of thought this
was a little bit of a sweet sauce. There was
no burn, no hurt there at all.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
So does your good about this?

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Does your hot take represent this sauce? In our first
mild hot take?

Speaker 6 (41:38):
My first hot take is that Cam Scataboo leads the
New York Giants in touches this season kind of you know,
as in truck. This is kind of a mild take,
and that's kind of where we're at with this one
last season, Tyrone, Tracy and Devin Singletary combined for three
hundred and sixty four combined touches A little hot on.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
The back end, by the way, I got a.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Little bit up.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Oh you gotta just a touch, not anything, batter.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Your skin's not turning red at all. Keep going.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
So I do think cam s Kataboo leads the New
York Giants in Touches in twenty twenty four as a look.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
All right, well, certainly things looked like it was going
in that direction until injury structural bogs In retrospect, how
do you feel about that take?

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Not terrible?

Speaker 6 (42:18):
But obviously he didn't make it to the finish line here,
so I couldn't have done it. But not a bad take.
I don't like that we're using him from that show
because I know I know my other ones.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Well, let's continue on and see where they end up.
Other ones too, well, Boggin, why don't you follow little
Joe down the yellow bit road. Come on, let's see
what happens here next up as Andrew Erickson's mile take,
Let's see what Andrew was in on in twenty twenty five.
Back in August, I.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Believe, all right, can your take be hotter than this?
Sauce or Scott bog Mild.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yes, I'm coming out the gates much hotter than this sauce.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
So I'm going with Drake London and it's just as
the wide receiver one.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Overall, that is my mile take so much for the show.
I'm on the.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Stage for a lot of hot takes, just starting out
the gates with I think it's a banger with Drake won.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Second, Dab is milling around a little bit, just letting
you know you get two in there, like that was
a very good suck. It's milling around in there. This
take is not milling around. This is a hot take.
Erickson has absolutely set the stage.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Bogs Well, Drake London finished at overall, not quite there,
but in terms of points per game, Drake London was
seventh overall. Now he did miss a significant portion of
the season. We all know that week's twelve through fifteen
he was m ia so again, kind of like that
first one that that Bogman had. The process was good,

(43:44):
just the results got derailed by injury. I think that's
fair to say, right Andrew.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
I think so, But I don't think that even before
his injury he was pacing to have that again, because
when I hyped up London, I'm thinking he's gonna have
the JSN season or the George Pickens levels. So those
were the guys that, if you were again like Jake
was the highest on JSN, like.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
They should be rewarded. So I wasn't right here.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Drake London was a fine pick, but where you had
to draft him, you were drafting the head. I took
him ahead of Jasn, so that was the wrong call.
So I don't like this one.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Well, as host of that show, looking back on it now,
whose take was better, Andrews or Box of those two?

Speaker 6 (44:24):
Yeah, Drake London was still seventh in points per game.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah London.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, I would actually say that like Scattaboo was on
pace to do exactly what Bogman said and then his
ankle went in the wrong direction, So like, you know,
had that injury not occurred, I think Skataboo that like
take would have been big. But also like I was
so thrown off because Ericson came out the Gates were like, hey,
what's your mild take, and he was like, this guy'll

(44:51):
be the number one over I know You're like, oh
my god, well, let's.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
See what Andrew decided to hype up to the medium takes,
and so Andrews got no fear. Let's take a.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Look, Andrew Rickson, I would like you to please lift
your street wings and your sauce is and I want
you to really dab. I'm going to go in for
a second one. I feel very confident where we are
heading here.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
We did two of this one. I'm good on too.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I actually do believe that Erickson has it might be
the toughest going from this to what we're going next.
So I want you to give a really strong dab.
I'm going to dab it again on the rest of
my teddy bear if it'll come out. It doesn't want
to come out for me, so you dive into it.
Apparently this one doesn't want me to go. Is it
a sign from the heavens?

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I think it is. Oh here we go? Oh God, Okay,
Well see that's what happens now. I shouldn't have done that.
We are in our third range here. This is the
bold take. We went from mild to spicy to bold.
Let's see if it hits you while you're going and
what is spicy or what you just ate or what
you're about to drop, and I think I know the answer.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Tucker Craft's going to finish as a top four Fantasy
tight end in twenty twenty five. The Green Bay Packers
know they have to get in the ball. If Jordan
Love is throwing more like he did in twenty twenty
three when he threw for over forty two hundred yards
thirty two passing touchdowns, I think Tucker Craft's going to
have a monster season.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
How are you holding up?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Pretty good?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Pretty good?

Speaker 2 (46:12):
There's nothing I mean, you got some hot takes here,
but you seem to be holding the best here.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
All right. Well, he ended up as tight end two
in fantasy points per game, So, Andrew Erickson, that feels
like a w for you.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
I mean, it was looking like an absolute home run
Grand Slams until Week nine happened when Tucker Kraft went
down with the injuries. So look, I think that similar
to the Bogs Cam Scatibo selection and prediction, it was
gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
This guy went down with an injury.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
So well, but who knows if it stayed. You know,
Jordan Love got heard things happened in the offense. Maybe
there was a fade where that twelve point seven fantas
points per game gets pulled down because of some of
the injuries and some of the issues that happened too.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
So you're saying I cashed out at the top.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Take the win. I'm gonna saying, take the W. I
read it last year. It was not pretty.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
Eric, it's the win. You remember how bad this is
going to get.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
De bro Fits had to eat a lot of l's
last year. That's a bold prediction. Take the W. All right,
let's get the Scott Bogman's next take. Here on the
medium side.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
We are moving up the hot meter my friends with
what is this a Scotch say bonet, a Scotch Bonet sauce.
It is described as kind of like used for jerk chicken.
I would say, there's also not really any information, so
it's a Caribbean type of sauce. So we're going to
go into this a little bit unknown, and Bogman, we
are going to jump right back to you. So that's

(47:35):
part of the trick of this game. So what I
would do is ask you to I will load up
my teddy bear, you load up your your dude. You
know what I'm also say, I say we should go higher.
Let's let's go more than you would normally put so,
really dab that sucker on. Okay, let's let's really push
the limits. Are you ready to push the limits?

Speaker 6 (47:55):
Push?

Speaker 5 (47:55):
It does go there, we go pretty sweet at the front.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
It's biting in the back. That one got, That one
got you know what they had me at the beginning.
They got me on the back end. That one is
a tackle on the five yard line. That one hit.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
No, no, okay, let me do let me do one more.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah, we'll do one more. No, no, that's not You've
got the third down of the sauces. How does your
taste and your take? How does your take?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
There?

Speaker 5 (48:26):
It goes?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah, now I'm starting to struggle.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
Now I'm feeling it.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
How does your take measure up to this sauce?

Speaker 5 (48:34):
This one's for you?

Speaker 6 (48:35):
Wel she okay, Ricky pier Saw leaves the forty nine
ers in receiving yards.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I love it. Yeah, I'm struggling a little bit focusing
and it might be getting a little bit red right now.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
Yeah, yeah, starting to feel a little sweaty, but a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
In the middle of it.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Just one sip there, well, uh, you need a lot
more SIPs of milk. There for the Ricky Pearce to
meet some milk.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Get him some milk.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, here's the question blocked. Terrible call it was, but again,
process I think it was good. Process wise, it was good.
The targets would have been there, the health was not.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
So go off, we hit the ground going too fast here.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
So I let me ask you this because obviously the
first year was kind of a wash for him with
that shooting injury, that this year he was hurt most
of the season, or you gonna be in er out
on Pearsaw in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 6 (49:30):
I think his cost is going to be low, so
I'm going to be in. It just depends on how
much he climbs up boards because I think he just
played most of this year not at one hundred percent.
So if he can get back next year, the skill
is still there. But obviously not a good year for
Ricky Pearsol at all.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Hurt, beg. He just never became that guy.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
I want to add something though with this call, because
Bogman Ricky Pearsol had more receiving arts per game than
Juwan Jennings did, so on a per game basis, Pearsaw
was very productive.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
So yeah, he was three games.

Speaker 6 (50:03):
I think I think that the end of the season
he was better as well, Like the last three games,
I think he was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
So well sher mister forty nine, Are you in on
Pier and Get essentially as a buy low? Are you
waiting to see what the foreigners do this offseason? First?

Speaker 2 (50:16):
No, I think it is an offseason. He's a great
bylow because it's going to be super super low. But
you know, the Ford Niners also showed like they're going
to spread the ball around a bit more Juwan Jennings.
I mean, I think there's going to be some big
movement in the wide receiver camps. Like I wouldn't be
surprised if Jennings has gone, Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.
Obviously Ayuka is going to be gone. Like it's a
great time to buy in on Pearsall this take just

(50:36):
we can't even do the like skataboo, like how does
ankle not turn? Like like this just wasn't right, But
like there were the little inner working pieces that like
Ricky pearsol can be good and hopefully you know he's
gonna be able to materialize that next year.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
This is not my worst take of this show either.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Well, let's get to some more of the takes here.
We got Ericson's nuclear take up first, Let's take a
look at it.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
We are putting both together. This is Ghost Pepper and
the Trinidad Scorpion. For what I'm gonna guess is the
hottest take of the show from Andrew Rickson. So Ericson,
Oh my god, you really dipped that thing. Let's go,
oh boy, this is a bad idea.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Why did you do that twice? Welsh?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Oh? Because I did every single one twice. I couldn't
end at the last one. You see, Oh it's me.
What's the hot.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Getting too? The take?

Speaker 4 (51:27):
So, a Buffalo Bill's wide receiver is gonna finish as
a wide receiver one this season. But it's not gonna
be Closha Here. It's not gonna be Coleman, It's not
gonna be Joshua Palmer. It's gonna be Elijah Moore. Elijah
Moore is gonna finish twenty twenty five as a fantasy
wide receiver one. That is my hottest, spiciest take. Yes,

(51:49):
I came to the table with a hot take that
is worthy of being in the Trinidad Scorpion.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
It is of hot takes.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
And I think your take is hotter than the sauce,
and I hate the sauce is stupid guts.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
That is my hottest take. And you guys agree, Is
it hotter than the sauce or no?

Speaker 6 (52:06):
Yes, I think it's hotter than the sauce. And this
sauce sucks. By the way, the salt worked better than
anything else.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
I wish I would have done that.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
The great thing about this episode is too it has
such great rewatchability because I don't know anything you just
said outside of Elijah Moore, so bogman, I hope you
heard stuff. I feel sick. I'm sweating like I would
be if I was depending on Elijah Moore as one
of my top wide receivers. But we have all officially
completed our hot takes ericson. You seem to be struggling

(52:35):
a little bit. What do you think from the.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
The hit, the hit, all the back nine. My lips
are on fire.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
Right, dude, it's the lips. It's the worst. I kept grunting.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
I was I was doing okay.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
I thought, Man, I'm handling this the Scorpion sauce pretty
well and then it's just all of a sudden, my lips.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Let us know.

Speaker 6 (52:55):
You're you're the man doing two dabs on all of
those incredible.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
I'm struggling a lot, and I did feel like I
was going to throw up about five minutes ago, but luckily,
I think I'm gonna be able to save that for
about five minutes from now to get out here.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Well, there you have it. Well, Andrew, you were right.
It wasn't Joshua Palmer. It wasn't on you. You were
You're on You're on pace there for a little while.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
But to stop there, stop there.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Elijah Moore, well, I mean the bill stopped there because
they let him go.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
What team is even catches did he have this year?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
He ended up with nine receptions and seventeen targets, finishing
his wide receiver one thirty seven this year.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
That that take was hotter than the sauce.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
That was hotter than the sauce. And by the way,
what are you eating? Their wash teddy bears like little nuggets.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
They're just nugs. They're just nugs. These yeah, these guys, Yeah,
that's what I had. I had Dino Nuggies out there.
We didn't I didn't have door dashed wings sent to
me I had.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
I had frozen wings, which were not good, but no
I didn't bring it.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
The best part about that episode too, if you want
to talk about takes, was me warning everybody to not
touch your face after you eat it, and then almost
immediately shoving my fingers into my eyes because I was
screaming and crying. But that was weird to look back.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
All right, Well, we got one more take. I don't
know if it could be possibly worse than that one.
So Bogman, let's take a look at your nuclear take
from the preseason.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
How is the hold up here? Before we get to.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
The progtory to the river stycks? What we did here?

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Well, Bob's unfortunately, you're gonna have it tough because you're
gonna go right into the next one. But how are
you holding up currently?

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Not great.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
My lips are burning, tongue is burning, mouth is burning.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
We are going into the final two takes. The nuclear
heat as it's called the Trinidad Scorpion. This is the
again we're going to find out here in just a second.
This is two million scoville, but the heat rating is
under the other but this is seen as the hottest one.

(54:57):
So we are going to double the skullville. If that
truly means we're doubling the heat, I don't know how
I'm gonna do it. I don't know if your takes
are going to be able to match up. So take
a deep breath. The hottest of hot takes with the
hottest of hot sauces. My final Teddy bear in toe Bogman,
raise your wing, raise your turning scorpion, and give her

(55:19):
a nice dab a good way. Does this look black? Oh?
It is like black? All right? That is a lot,
I think. I think you guys can all see.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
I don't have that much.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I know the smell it ericson. Just smelt it, all right,
quick before you do it. I put more on mine
before before we do it. Will this be hotter than
the take you're about to give. Yes, let's go to
the mouth, get your milk away. Here we go.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
It's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Oh oh oh it's awful. It's hot and awful.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Oh it just tastes bad.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Why did we do this?

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Is my question?

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Should I just do more of the ghost pepper that next?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
No, you gotta try this one. You want to mix it?
You can be a champ. All right, bogs. Uh, that
one is bad. It's also bad. Hot is your taking it?

Speaker 5 (56:16):
It's hitting me all late?

Speaker 3 (56:17):
This sucks?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, all right, let's hear your final hot take of
the Hot Takes episode.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
Anthony Richardson finishes QB six. We don't even know if
he's gonna start right now. He may not start any games,
And I'm gonna say he finishes as QB number six.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
We wanted a crazy one, right Nah. Obviously the rushing total.
I'm saying this take like I'm.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Mad at it.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah, it's the nose starts to run a one.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
And uh, what were we talking about? Anthony Richardson?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (56:50):
Right, this offense is Taylor made to make a big
time quarterback for fantasy. It is a perfect offense to
build around a good quarterback.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Did I get it on my lips?

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Soy?

Speaker 6 (57:03):
Anthony Richardson QB six, If he finishes, if he starts
all seventeen games, he's a QB one no matter what.
All I'm asking is a little bit more than that.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
So good god, Oh Boggs, you were on track there,
Dale Jones QB twelve Fantasy points per games. You were
right about the offense just the wrong quarterbackrack.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
My point was that this offense is Taylor made for
a quarterback to succeed.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
So I think this is process over.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Should have just stopped there.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
It should have just stopped there. Quarterback is going to
be good. Of course it ended up.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
How could I have known Philip Rivers was gonna get
starts here right he'd been.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Retired, and what a hot take that would have been. Phil.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I wish we could go back in time and tell
people like tell tell August twenty twenty five, us, Hey, Jill,
Philip Rivers is gonna come back and play football for
the Colts this year? Like what like all the crazy
things that would happen, but.

Speaker 6 (57:57):
Double covid and I mean, what's happening? How do we
get filling?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Like go eate some ghost pepper sauce. You're a liar?

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Yeah, I will say this though. They asked me to
do that show, and I said hard no, I'm not
doing that, And that was the best decision.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Fun fact, most people babed out on that show. I
was the only one that was willing to go the
limit in the early on stages, and we had all
these people continuously back out on that one. So yeah,
that's what you got all the time.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yeah, yep, Nope, not these boys.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
And these boys they.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
Did they not only did we give terrible takes, we
also ate the awful hot sauce.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
So there you go on camera.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Do you guys still have the hot sauce?

Speaker 5 (58:36):
My cousin actually watched this show right here.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Right now, I promise that, right now, I promise you.
I had no idea we were going to do that show.
I literally have it right here.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
I'm gonna go to Venmo. You tell me how much.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Come on on your desk.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I swear to god, it has been on my desk
since we did that show. This is the one. This
is the worst one.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Two.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I actually grabbed it.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
You try. Just want you to eat a full pickle
with the scorpion sauce. But I think the trickys you
also do it centually. I think that's also part of it.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
I gotta tell you that the last sauce wasn't as
bad as the second to last, because I feel like
the second to last aus has already burned this.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
This was the one that was the problem. This is
the evil one.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
Scorpion one was just disgusting.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I also liked that you said Scotch bonnet is Scotch bonnet,
which is Scotch bonet.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
I did say, yeah, yeah, well I did that correct.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
It's very funny. So anyway, some fun predictions, some fun awards,
a good time. Who were your favorite award winners for
twenty twenty five? Drop them in the YouTube comments below.
Subscribe to our Twitch channel and remember on Twitch and
on Betting Pros YouTube. We are going to be live
Scott bog and I four fifteen Eastern Standard time for

(59:48):
Saturday playoff football. So join Boggs and I on Betting
Pros YouTube and here on our Twitch, Twitch dot tv
slash Fantasy Pros. That's the place to be, all right.
That'll do it for us, But the story of the
game goes on for Welsh or Excident Bogman. I'm Joey P.
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