December 3, 2024 • 39 mins
Colin looks at each of the quarterback performances from Bo Nix and Jameis Winston on Monday Night Football
Thoughts on how good the Bears HC position is
LeBron James is going through a slump right now
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So you know Jimmy Johnson Jmack was on our show,
How wat You Go? And one of the things he said,
and this is one of his mantra, is that you
lose a lot more games in the NFL than you win.
And that was Jameis Winston and Cleveland last night. First
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downs Cleveland had more passing first downs Cleveland. Third down
efficiency Cleveland was better. Fourth down Cleveland was better. Passing
yards Cleveland was better. Possession dominate, time of possession Cleveland
was better. Yeah, they had those pick six things. You
lose a lot more games than you win. And Jameis
Winston was exhibit a. Last night, bow Knicks never took
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a sack. Jamis Winston took a couple of beauties, like
really badly time sacks. Bow Knicks had two picks. One
was a deflection, one was like a change of possession
downfield of punt. Jamis had two or pick six is
in one in the end zone. So sometimes a quarterback
needs to be boring and manage the game. Jameis Winston
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is never boring. He's evil Knieval at quarterback. He's a
walking bat party. He's a parachutist who forgets his parachute.
Those skydivers don't last long. Bo Knicks, however, as a rookie,
had a sense of timing when to let it loose
and when not to And last out last night was
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a shootout, and shootouts happened in the NFL. And Jameis
Winston of his eighty five snaps, you went wow with
about a dozen of them, and then you went uugh
with about four to five of them. Now bo Knicks
had just sixty six snaps. He had a couple of wows,
but it was mostly there we go at a quarterback.
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There you go, slide, get down, get the first down again.
Very few wows, but bo Nicks didn't really have a
oh no, And that's Jamis's career. I'd argue, Jamis Winston
is arguably the most talented quarterback in this league. I
would never build around, no, thank you. He would drive
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you nuts also, And I thought this was really telling.
And I've said this before. A coaching staff will tell
you what they think of your young quarterback by what
they allow him to do. It's almost like with your kids.
You will tell me how much you trust your kids
by what you allow them to do. Sean Payton multiple
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times with a lead against Miles Garrett and the Cleveland
pass rush, Sean Payton allowed bow Nicks multiple times to
drop back.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Deep in his end zone. He trust the kid. That
to me was telling.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Jamis Winston's a quarterback with a ton of talent, size arm,
nobody trusts him. Sean Payton's like kid, let her rip,
go down the field, roll out and Cleveland with a lead.
He's a rookie. Nah, It's okay. And to me that
was telling. And everybody keeps asking well it's Denver, for real, folks.
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Look at the boxes that playoff teams that win games.
Check head coach Denver a plus, quarterback, capable pass rusher,
Nick Benito, elite offensive line, PFF ranks Denver number two weapon.
I love Courtland Sutton cornerback best in the league. Every
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playoff box they check. Coach, quarterback, pass rusher, weapon, o line,
elite corner check tech, chech check. I could argue Kansas
City didn't have all those boxes checked. Now they've got
Mahomes and it's only bow Knicks. But this was a
classic example. This game didn't look anything like Denver thought
it was going to look like. And Bo Knicks didn't
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have a lot of wow, but he didn't have six.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Eh, what was that? Here's Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
After some games go maybe in a direction you think
they're going to go. Obviously that one went in a
much different direction. It was good to get the win.
That's important because we're in the you know, we're at
that time of the season into December here where all
these things matter, and you know we were able to
do that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, So if you look at the playoff picture, the
Broncos get a bye and then they get a host Indianapolis,
the closest AFC team to them in the playoff hunt.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They'll be favored in that game and should be Denver.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
At eight and five week off, perfect timing off a win,
feeling good, hosting an offense that can't throw the ball
with any consistency Indianapolis. I think Denver wins goes nine
to five. And again, if you ask yourself, are they
for real? Do they check the six boxes? They check
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all of them. Little young at quarterback, but sixty one
college starts makes you feel pretty good about that. In
the way Peyton Letts bow Nicks run around in the
end zone tells me all I need. No he trust
him in big spots. Okay, so I said this yesterday.
I think j Mack brought this up. We were talking
about is the Bears a good job? Well, so Kevin
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Warren the president. They could have hired Jim Harbaugh last year,
but Jim Harbor didn't like Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren used
to run the Big Ten. They don't like each other,
and so that's not going to happen. And you know,
so you just kind of retain Matt Eberflus, who you
know came into the season on the hot seat, so
hot he's gone. But yesterday Kevin Warren made a pitch
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that this is a really good job.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
But he may be right.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
We're going to have plenty of salary cap space, we
have a young, talented roster, we have strong draft capital
in the upcoming draft, and we have a quarterback in
Caleb Williams whos shown he is very special and in
the right environment he can become even more special than
he already has shown. You look up all of these elements.
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As we sit here today, we are in a unique situation.
This will be the most coveted job in the National
Football League this year.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Now, at first I thought, give me a break, mccaskey's
never had a four thousand yard quarterback. And then I
started thinking, well, there were questions about the Chargers, but
they had the quarterback right. There were questions for years
and years the Spanos family, Ah, they're cheap Chargering. I mean,
there was a lot of stuff about the Chargers. They
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moved to La played in a small stadium, Is it right?
And all of a sudden You're like, yeah, they got
the coaching staff right if they had the quarterback. So
I thought about the job opening Chicago, the Jets, the Saints,
probably the Jaguars, the Cowboys. I tend to think the
Giants in Cincinnati should retain their coaches. Not sure if
they will, but I would. You're talking about what did
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Jim Harball, what was he attracted to? It's quarterback, and
the two best would be Chicago and Jacksonville. Now the
Jaguars have the younger, richer ownership.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
That is something.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And also the Jaguars plan a much easier division. Whoever
gets that bears job. Good luck against Green Bay and
Detroit that have stacked young, ascending rosters, and good luck
with Minnesota, who they may have the best coach in
the division. But I was thinking about these two jobs
in Chicago, if you win, and I think coaches have
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to have healthy egos. The great ones do the Sean Payton,
the Belichicks, the Vrabuls, Andy Reid. You know, I mean
the best coach is mcveay Shanahan. There's a confidence. You know,
some will say arrogance, but I think it's a confidence.
And here's the thing about Chicago. If you win in Chicago,
you're a rock star. Chicago had Oprah and Michael Jordan
and Ditka and Mayor Daily and Wrigley Field and Belushi
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and Farley. Jacksonville, well, hey, they're opening a Chipotle next Wednesday.
I mean, even if you win there, I mean, Jacksonville's
where mobsters go to hide. Chicago was the mob like
it matters more Chicago historically, architecturally, politically, it's big. Chicago
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is big. Yeah, the division is going to be really tough,
but I mean Trevor Lawrence or Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence
is on what his fourth injury. Even when Jacksonville's been good,
the whole country's like, can we get back to the
Steelers and Patriots and Manning and Brady and winning games?
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Like Chicago matters. It's dysfunctional. Their politics and their sports
are dysfunctional. Their history's fascinating. I just think there's a
rock star quality to it. And if you look at
what the best coaches generally look at, and this is
why the Jets job is dicey. Not only do you
not have a young, ascending quarterback, you've got an old,
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prickly one in Aaron Rodgers, who's increasingly expensive.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
In Dallas.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I like Dak Everybody likes Dak but as the highest
paid player, he's at BB plus quarterback coming off another injury.
I think Chicago's the best job for a lot of reasons,
and one of it coaches have egos, and if you
hit it in Chicago, you're big, and that matters. There
are certain franchises the late John Madden used to tell
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our management all the time, certain games sound big.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Green Bay against the Niners.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Who knows whose quarterback it sounds big, Ravens Steelers, even
when Kenny Pickett played, it sounds big. The Bears can't
get quarterback right. If the Bears are playing green Bay tomorrow,
they could be oh to eight, You'd be like, oh,
it's a Packers and the Bears playing. And I think
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that stuff matters.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
And for that I do think.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And Caleb Williams and Montez sweat, Jalen Johnson, Keenan Allen
Cole come at DJ Moore, I think it is the
best job I've reconsidered. I mean, also, I get Caleb
for three more years minimum on a rookie contract.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
That matters too.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I've already paid Trevor Lawrence and he's expensive and has
it lived up on a contract, So I think the
Bears is the best job.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
J Macy. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Love when you have a good Reconsider why I slept
on it, especially after I present the fact you did.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And I was a little dire, and I, you know,
it's just been such a mess there.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And then I went home and I thought about it,
and I thought, boom, check check check check. I like
their players, we both like their talent, We both like
their tight end receivers. We thought a year ago we
thought they're were good enough. Now they regress badly under
a defensive coach. My guest says, if you get the
right coach, it's like Denver by the Way two years ago,
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before Sean Payton got there, we thought the broncos O
line was a good left tackle and nonsense. Pff has
it number two? Well that's Sean Payton. He got at
the top ten last year. Now he's got at the
top too. Andy Reid, by the way, is constantly rebuilding
the online in Kansas City. They always find a solution
by the trading deadline or November. So I kind of
think it's the best gig.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
So the New Orleans Saints job is open. You know
that division is going to be winnable every year because
nobody's good. But is there any talent on the Saints
compared to the Bears. It's night and day. It's not
even close.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I think the you know, I would rather have a
different ownership group in Chicago, but I don't know. I mean,
And also, the Bears have again They've got the eleventh pick,
and if you look at their schedule, they'll probably.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
End up with the eighth or ninth pick.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And this draft is considered very top heavy, so that
many people are saying there's only about ten to twelve
first round play this year. The Bears will get another one.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
I mean again, Raiders job could be open. I mean,
Pierce has got him, he's fighting, they're fighting hard. He
seems clueless. Is that a good job compared to the Bears?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, I get I will the Raiders is interesting. I
get Brock Bowers, who is the best young tight end
I've ever seen.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
He's a tight end.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I get Max Crosby, an elite pass rusher, and I
get Colton Miller left tackles. So there are three boxes.
Star weapon, left tackle, pass rusher. Okay, so I have
a new GM who has a history at drafting pretty well,
I mean Harbaugh took over the Chargers. They got some
good players, so there's some boxes there I like. But
if you don't have a quarterback. Now, the hit rate
for quarterbacks is going up over the last six to
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seven years. More than more of these guys are not
only hitting, but the guys that failed Gino Darnold Baker,
they're being reborn with better offensive coaching than ten years ago.
So I just think, if I have Caleb for four years,
I don't have to pay him in this roster. I'm
gonna deal with the Lions and the Packers excellence. That's
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a better job.
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Speaker 1 (14:12):
So Lakers lost again last night, and Lebron James since
he came into this league even as a rookie. If
you go back to Lebron James' rookie year, take away
the first two months when he's straight out of high school.
He's eighteen years old. After the first two months, from
that point forward, he averaged twenty two points a game
and six and a half assists and finished top ten
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in MVP voting. So even his rookie year, he was
probably eighth, ninth, tenth best player in the NBA, and
he's been in that top ten forever. And then there's
the last four or five games, so he is in
an all time slump, and it's his legs. In his
last five games, he's shooting thirty nine percent and on
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his best nights, Lebron James is a top ten ish player.
And Michael Jordan, by the way, at thirty nine years old,
scored forty points three times. I saw one of those,
and he had thirty several times. But mj and Lebron
now are defensive liabilities. And if you're talking about the
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over the course of a season, he is no longer
a top ten player. And that's the first time in
his career I could say that Jokiches Wemby, Jannis Luca,
ad Donovan, Mitchell, Jason Tatum, SGA, Steph Curry, I think
on a you know, and again they've had five games
in seven nights, so the first thing to go is
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your legs. And that's why he shot an air ball
last night that he missed the rim by three feet
and it wasn't short or long.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
It was to the left.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So yeah, for the first time ever, Lebron does not
feel and this first time in like twenty some years,
he does not feel like a top ten player in
the game. Again, He'll have his nights, he'll have his moments,
and we saw that last night and the night before,
and he'll have his moments. But the first time in
his career, I do not believe over the course of
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a season because you can say, well, when he's rested,
that's not the NBA regular season that this stuff counts too,
not just the playoffs. Here's Lebron after.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Is it not that often that you go through, you know,
shooting something like this. There are many things you lean
on to try to get out of it.
Speaker 9 (16:23):
Ye.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
So he has missed nineteen straight three pointers. Nineteen straight
three pointers. Jmack has never missed nineteen straight three pointers.
I'm not saying J Max Lebron. I'm saying he's a gunner.
But the point is nineteen straight is beyond Look at
this one. Look at boot that's brutal. I mean that
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that is an eighty four mine hour fastball. I mean
these are bad for Lebron, who's got a pretty nice touch.
I'm not knocking him like the guy's been. There's no
player in the history of the league that was top
ten in the league for twenty plus years. Kareem's the
only one close. But I think, and again, Lebron's gonna
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have a thirty five point game at some point during
the season. I was at Michael Jordan's last year with
the Wizards. I went to one of the games in
which he had forty. He was unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
But it's a.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Michael wasn't playing defense. Michael was inconsistent. Michael didn't get
along with teammates. That's why JJ Reddick, very early in
this maiden rookie season of coaching, first game, he handed
the keys to a d He knew who the best
player was. And we can go back and forth on
who the best Laker player is. But last year we
said it past the All Star break, the best player
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was ad on this team. Now the gap has widened.
J Mack with a news.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
You know I'm over here. I'm resisting the urge to
chime in on Lebron. I'm sure it'll be an opportunity later.
Got to defend the King.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Let's start with in the NFL, with the Eagles of
their eight game winning street, Colin.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Jalen Hurts has quietly been phenomenal.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Twenty touchdowns, Russian good passing, and just two turnovers during
that stretch. But weirdly, the inkstained wretches in the media
are calling him a game manager unbelievable, partially because he
just threw five times in the second half against the Ravens.
Nick Siriotti is shutting down that narrative.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
You'll say, well, game manager, that's bo that's all bold, Like,
Jalen played an awesome game, and his stats are going
to say where we didn't throw it a lot. We
were eleven and nineteen. He had one hundred and eighteen yards.
But that guy made runs when he was when he
needed to make runs. He made good checks. You know,
we haven't thrown it a lot in the fourth quarter
in the past month and a half of the season.
So you know, Jalen stats aren't going to say that.
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But Jalen Saquon deserves being an MVP consideration.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Well, Justin Herbert doesn't put up big numbers because it's
a there's a different way to attack it. I mean
The truth is Brady could have had much better numbers
in his career, but they often played with leads in
the second half, and so you call a game differently.
You're trying to eat the clock and shrink a game.
When Tom Brady's thirty five and you're thinking we leave
twenty seven to seventeen middle third, you're trying to get
the clock moved down. So I mean to me, I
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don't I'm never been a stats guy. Mahomes is the
best quarterback. I think this year, Josh Allen and Lamar
look like the better quarterbacks. I don't care much about stats.
I know this for Jalen Hurts, he and AJ Brown
are great together. He helps Saquon Barkley. Nick Sirianni said
he got some really important checks. That stuff matters. All
I know is Herbert and Jalen Hurts are franchise quarterbacks.
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Joe Burrow's putting up massive numbers because he trails because
he has to.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He has no choice.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So I don't get too caught up in you know,
like pass I always look at sort of completion percentage
in passer rating. Can you get to at least sixty
four percent completion percentage? If you're into the fifties. That
scares me.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
And your passer rating ninety eight or above, you're good.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
So I think the only mistake Siriotte made here was saying, yeah,
Jalen deserves MVP consideration, Like let's let's not go there.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
He's not an MVP.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
The Eagles fund stat they are last in pass attempts
this season, and I know people will say, like, oh,
there's a passing league.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Just stop. The Eagles know what they are.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
We're gonna run the football on you and just wear
you down and then kill you at the play action
with aj Brown.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Listen, and when.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
DeVonta Smith comes back, good luck guarding both of them.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I mean, I don't know how many pass attempts Jameis
Winston had last night, but it had to be closer
to fifty eight, I believe.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, do you really want that?
Speaker 8 (20:36):
By winningly, you know, in the fourth quarter and he's
still chucking and duck it. I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't want Peyton Manning and his crime throwing fifty
eight tentions. I don't want Mahomes doing it with Kansas
City's tackles. The bottom line is the Buffalo Bills are
a better football team the less they rely on Josh Allen.
I mean, James Cook has changed their offense. They have
a home run hitter. For years and years, we were
always like, they can't establish a run game. Now they
have one. So Josh Allen on certain drives, can be
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your number two pitch. So I don't want my quarterback throw.
I mean Dak Prescott's history. If he throws over thirty
eighties offul if he throws like thirty five or less,
he's pretty good.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Isn't a weird how three of the best teams in
the league, Buffalo, Detroit and Philadelphia dominate the line of
scrimmage and run the football down your throat. Funny how
that works. I'm told this is a passing quarterback league,
but this is still one in the trenches. And that's
where these three teams are dominating. They're the three best
teams in the league right Look at their running games.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
You can't stop them. That's what's smart.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
I just don't get it. Next up, No, boy, I
don't know what Bill Belichick's doing here. And this is
a good question for Brady when he comes on later.
So Aaron Rodgers is struggling, You and I have called
this all season. Belichick, for some reason is defending Aaron Rodgers,
saying the forty one year old could easily rebound and
have a good year next year. Addings, sometimes one season
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is just a bump in the road. It's not necessarily
the end of the road. Now, obviously Belichick's forgotten more
football than you and I know combined.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
But this is insane, Jim, I mean, Bill's never had
a great sense of offense. We all know that Matt Patricia,
offensive coordinator missed, was not a good I mean, when's
the last skill player Belichick draft that It could be Gronk.
I don't know skill player that was a Pro bowler.
So you could say, well, well this Steve Spagnola doesn't
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no offense and Bill Belichick does not does He's not
He's tone aft wat offense. He reached on draft picks. Offensively,
he could not get a wide receiver right. So the
idea that I think Bill Belichick is a great coach,
he's the best defensive coach. Ever, I don't want him
near my personnel. I don't want him near it. So
all these coaches have holes. Jimmy Johnson and Sean Payton
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and McVeigh have they know personnel well, a lot of
these coaches, like Andy Reid's like this not my thing,
and Andy's the best play designer and play caller arguably
of my lifetime.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
I think the.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Issue is, like, Okay, so Belichick's doing a lot of
media now, but if he's going to say nonsense like
this because he doesn't want to like ruffle feathers, Aaron
Rodgers would probably agree, this is the worst season he's
had in fifteen years, maybe the worst season of his career.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
He's not a top eighteen quarter colin.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
They got him DeVante Adams and he hasn't.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Done anything with them, zero impact.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
So, like even Rogers would say, that's so, why is
Belichick saying this? Do you think there's some wacky world
where Belichick's like hoom.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I think if I take a job.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No, And this is not a knock on Belichick, but
since he's taken the job at the ESPN, this is
not a criticism of him. He has been sent Rex
Ryan did this when he first went to ESPN. They
send messages to the league. Bill is constantly sending messages
to the league. So Bill would rather coach than do
media and he's doing a fine job. I'm not criticizing him.
But Rex Ryan sent a message about a week ago.
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Damn right, I'd take that jet's job. That was a
message to Woodie Johnson. So coaches do this all the
time when they get tired of this side of the
microphone and want to be on the other side. And
I think I would do it too if I was
a football. Bill Parcells and who I love, you know
these guys all Sean Payton was here for a year.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I went to dinner with Seawan. I'm like, you got
to coach. You're good at this stuff. You got to coach.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And I knew I was gonna lose him twenty times
a year. But Belichick needs to be a football coach.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
So Belichick using a mike to send a message, what
are you gonna do that to get us some nice
contracts here at Fox?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
You can That's a different discussion.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Final story is Kirk Cousins Colin. He is really struggling.
Six interceptions in the last three games. He had four
against the Chargers. I mean, this is embarrassing.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
There is chatter about.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Rookie Michael Pennock's junior you know, maybe taking over, But
yesterday the media asked him about it, and Penick said
that he believes Cousins will bounce back. Rahie Morris added
the team as sticking with Cousins, they will not turn
to Pennis. Falcons are five point underdogs in Minnesota, and
I should add I got some numbers here for you.
We know the Vikings are one of the number one
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or two blitz teams in the league. Do you want
to know Kirk cousins numbers under pressure this year eight
interceptions under pressure, second most of the NFL, and under
pressure twelve turnover worthy plays. According to Pro Football Focus,
that's top in the NFL. This is a recipe for
disaster this weekend for Cousins.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Colin in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's interesting. I looked at I have blazing five this week.
I looked I was struggling to find it. Now. Underdogs
did very well over Thanksgiving, College and pro A lot
of underdogs did well. Go look at the lines this week.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I struggled.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
I liked every favorite you like Minnesota here.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
For the same reason you watch you.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
I mean, it's well, the number was four and a
half yesterday. I see it's up to five.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Now, I guess I'll tell you the wise guy. The
Sharps went and bet Minnesota.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
You know, there's a bunch of guys who claim to
be film guys now on social media and you go
on there, they're breaking down film. They are claiming that
Cousins has some kind of injury that's been undisclosed.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
And if you watch some of the throws, it's like,
is he healthy?
Speaker 7 (25:57):
I mean, Colin, he was not moving against the char
He would rather just throw the ball and it's getting
batted down at the line.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
He couldn't. He couldn't drive the ball. That was very clear.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
And is there is there a shoulder issue? I don't know.
Would would you consider turning to Pennix?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (26:12):
I would.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I have no problem with it if he's ready. Now again,
this very very much Lamar Jackson with Joe Flacco. Flacco
got old fast boom they put him in. If Pennox
is showing you at practice he's ready. He may be
Jordan Love where he needs another year or something. But
he played so many snaps at Indiana and Washington. I
think he's ready to play, and he played in like
a pro style offense with Grub's offensive coordinator and and
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and Klin de bor So. To me, Pennix was very
NFL ready, But I said this, bow Knicks, Pennix were
ready to play. Drake May was not ready to play.
He just he just wasn't ready to play. And I
think you've seen that jmck with the news.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd. Lie.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I was watching bow Knicks last night and I got
this this morning. Bow Nick since week four in the
fourth quarter, he's numbers are incredible. Fourth quarter rookie quarterback
seventy three percent completion percentage, one hundred and eleven passer rating,
six total touchdowns, a pick. So there's two reasons for that.
Sean Payton and bo Nick started sixty one college games.
If you watch Anthony Richardson of the Colts, who started
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thirteen college games a quarter as many as boon Nicks.
You can watch Caleb Williams, Drake May and Anthony Richardson,
and you can see the baby sitting by the coaching
staff bone Nicks last night with a lead against the
good pass rushes out there slinging it from the end zone.
So this is one of these things those sixty one
college starts. It's immeasurable. It's hard to quantify how much
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it means. It's like when you're a young chef, your
first job shouldn't be six thirty to eight thirty Saturday
night in a busy restaurant.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Right, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
When you get your you go to driver's ED class
and the first time you get behind the wheel probably
shouldn't be on the auto.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Bonn like bon.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Nicks, is ready to sixty one college starts, sec PAC twelve,
multiple coordinators, multiple coaches.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Dude is ready to play. And I'm watching this last night.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
If you look at the playoff picture right now, Denver
at eight and five going to a bye week than
the Colts, I think they look like a playoff team.
I think I think you're all asking about bon Nicks.
I watched him last night. Yes, he is still growing,
but I think he's fairly close to his ceiling. He's
not gonna get more athletic. He's not going to get bigger.
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I think his arm feels better than it was in common.
I mean, where's bone Nicks gonna grow? He's going to
grow in watching coverages, and that part's obvious. But I
think he's fairly close to his ceiling. I don't think
Caleb's close to his ceiling. I don't think Dre drat
May's remotely close to his ceiling. I think boon Nicks
is closer to after sixty one college starts and then
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three quarters of a season with you know, Sean Payton,
what you're watching, he's what he's going to get is
more refined. His completion percentage will go up. But those
fourth quarter numbers for bow Knicks, fourth quarter often coming
from behind everybody knows you have to throw, are really
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really impressive. First month, little over his skis games real fast,
little overwhelmed, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
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Speaker 1 (29:26):
All right, we moved my buddy Nick right Coh's first
things first, he's crushing it up a little bit today
because Tommy Brady, we don't move Nick very much.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Tom's in house. You know, I feel bad.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
I mean, I've I've been with the company eight and
a half years. I mean, I don't know who needs
to be bumping. Oh, but I mean I'll take it
for your guy, Tom Brady. What I will say, is
this this could be the start of the greatest forty
minute run in the history of the network. Yeah, I
mean you and me together, Then the Herd hierarchy long awaited,
then Tom Brady and Colin. I mean, I don't know
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if this needs to go in the I'm gapsled, but
I think so. So let's sorry, we don't have a
lot of time.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Let's do it all right, Let's start with the Bears.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I said earlier today, Jim Harbaughs said, I'll take the
Chargers job they have justin Herbert. Kevin Warren yesterday said
it's the best job opening, and I looked at it.
I get Caleb Williams. I'm not paying him for four years.
DJ Moore, Keenan Allen Montees sweat.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
How would you? I mean, is it the best job?
Speaker 10 (30:24):
Well, it's of all the jobs that we expect to
come open, like, it's certainly better than the Jets and
Saints jobs which are already open. You know, I love Trevor,
but he has underwhelmed that job should come open. The
Bear's job is better than that. Before the year there
was thought, oh is Philly or Buffalo going to be open?
The answer those are No, they are not, So take
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those off the board. Say Dallas comes open. The Bear's
job is better for everything you said, and it's why
I understand everyone is going to go after Ben Johnson.
But for the Bears in particular, you are pairing an
offensive mind with Caleb, which I think they must do,
and you are weakening your biggest inter division competition in Detroit.
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So I think while a guy like Vrabel would be
great for Jacksonville, if that opens up to ad stability,
I think Chicago has to go offensive mind and fresh ideas.
I love the Ben Johnson idea if they could get him,
and if I were Ben Johnson. Of all the jobs
that are open or are likely to come open, I
certainly think Chicago's the most attractive because I believe in
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Caleb as much as I ever had.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So I'm watching in the snow globe, and by the way,
Buffalo looked like they have. They were having the time
of their lives. It was like when we were eight
years old and it snowed for the first time. They
were out there playing in the backyard. But I noticed
Josh Allen on one side and brock pretty on the other,
and I thought, you want to pay them about the same.
You and I always pushed back on the old Broca Root.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
We don't get yelled at as much as we once did.
Did those people switch over to Blue Sky from X?
I don't know what happened to him. You just don't
hear as much of people.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Why won't you give brock Perty his respect?
Speaker 10 (32:13):
And the injury is because Rock Party, like a lot
of players, non indictment is a mirror. He is going
to look exactly like the talent around him. And listen
the Niners when they had five all pros on offense
last year, all playing at their apex, Rock Party looked excellent.
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This year, when the Niners don't have the worst skill
position in the league the least talent, it's just league average.
He looks league average, Which is why I think it
would be insane.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
After this year to pay Rock Party.
Speaker 10 (32:51):
I would certainly want to see him next year when
you know what are what talent is going to be
around him? Was this year the anomaly or was last
year the anomaly? I think it is worth noting that
in his last sixteen games, he's eight to eight. He
has as many touchdowns as turnovers his pass like sixteen games,
not a small sample, starting with that Ravens game last
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season which ended his MVP candidacy. But Colin, I want
to be kind of first to market with this idea
and bounce it off you. If the Niners season continues
to go the way it does and they end up
with a top ten pick, is it crazy to suggest
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that they could draft a quarterback, because I don't think
it is. We saw Kyle Shanahan say I have a
quarterback that I went to an NFC championship game and
a Super Bowl with. I think we can do better,
and they gave up three first round picks to try
to go get that guy. Now, the guy was the
wrong decision in Trey Lance, but the idea was he
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clearly thought if we had a mobile run threat quarterback,
what this offense could unlock with Shador cam Ward, Jalen
Milroe all.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Being potential top ten picks.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
If the Niners are sitting there, don't have to trade
any draft capital to get one of those guys, and
then almost assuredly could get a first round pick and
then some for a team for Brock Party. Is that
something that would be crazy rather than them as an
aging team and expensive team paying brock Purty fifty five
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million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Who is Shanahan's primary rival in this league? Sean McVay.
Mcvay's what they do. So mcvey's got an older pocket quarterback.
Cam Ward would be a young, inexpensive, big arm mobile quarterback.
How do you catch up to your rival? The Rams
are stacked with young defensive talent. The Niners are old son.
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I can see Shanahan saying mcvay's already got a ring.
I'm not rebuilding on this team. Young dynamic quarterbacks, shortened rebuilds.
I mean, they change things.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
So I think you can keep all the talent.
Speaker 10 (35:07):
And what I thought you were gonna say about McVeigh is,
what did McVeigh have the guts to do? Not with
the last pick of the draft, but with the first
pick of the draft, who had gone to a Super Bowl,
had an unbelievable season twenty eighteen, said you know what,
we can be better now there's not a Matt Stafford
out there for them. I understand that if this five
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and seven turns into six and eleven and the eighth
pick of the draft, I think that possibility has to
be open for them.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yep, No, I think, okay, I want to end with this.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
The Chiefs have the worst point differential for any eleven
and one team ever. Offensive tackle worries me. I do
like Isaiah Piccheco returning. They're not as good defensively. Now,
I will say Burl's got a bad defense, so does Lamar.
I think that the NFC actually at the top. Detroit
and Philly are kind of impressive. Buffalo's good, but it's
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you know, we don't know. You have to acknowledge the
margins are like this, They're they're like paper fin with
this Chiefs team. Right.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
No, I don't have to acknowledge anything, and I what
I do have to do is force America to take,
you know, take on a go on a trip with
me a year ago. Because everyone's trying to act like
this all this this year is different. You realize, if
the Chiefs lost every game on the rest of their schedule,
they would finish eleven and six.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Last year. They actually did finish eleven and six. Last year.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
Mahomes's numbers were worse, the offense was worse. They actually
looked vulnerable, and then we saw what happened. Everyone is
trying to retcon scenarios where the past didn't actually happen
and where this season they're like, well, they could have
lost that game. They could have lost that game, but
they didn't and listen. Unlike the Niners, who dealt with
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significant injuries and fell apart, the Chiefs by the fourth
game of the season were without wide receiver, one wide receiver,
two running back, one tight end, three four and five
their number two corner. They're now without their kicker. They
have beaten four of the five playoff teams they played.
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The one they didn't play, it's a two point game
with two minutes left before Josh makes that amazing play.
Credit to him, and everyone's like, oh that, I'm worried
about him. They Mahomes had the worst six game stretch
of his career. They have dealt with crippling injuries. Those
guys are coming back and they're eleven and one.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
They left.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
Tackle is a real concern, which is why they signed
DJ Humphries, who was a Pro Bowler two years ago.
He will be the starter this coming weekend when they
play the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
I just it is, this is what happened last season.
Speaker 10 (37:56):
Last season, the entire media, except for you know, a
select few of us really just me said, this is
the year to get the Chiefs, this is the year
they don't have the magic. They then were underdogs in
three straight playoff games, won the Super Bowl, and the
whole media in unison said, I will never make that
mistake again. Now they're eleven and one and people are like, nah,
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they're not that good.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
They're making the exact same mistake.
Speaker 10 (38:24):
So I would ask you, because I know you have
to go, but you're about to have Tom on because
the Chiefs just broke a record most consecutive victories in
one score games fifteen. That record was held by the
three to four Patriots. Tom Brady, obviously his first back
to back Super Bowls only back back Super Bowl ask him, Hey, Tommy, were.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
You guys just lucky? Or maybe did you know how
to win?
Speaker 10 (38:50):
And maybe is that having the best coaching quarterback thing
pretty damn valuable. My guess is he'll say that, you know,
they knew what they were doing, But maybe you'll say
it is just luck, you know, just luck. It does
a lot of you know, it's an oblong ball and
weird things happening.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I think winning close games is like winning at poker,
which you're great at. Which is there are sometimes the
luck of the draw, but over the course of an
extended amount of time on the table, skill and intelligence
and efficiency wins. It's got a poker, you know. Sometimes
the fumble goes your way, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the
cards don't.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
But we have to go. Got ten seconds.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
These other like the Lions, are getting more injured. The
Chiefs are getting healthier and getting the checkle back get
in Hollywood, ground back the best even the league by
a mile, people will agree.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
No mile is a lot.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Mile is a lot.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
The best team by a mile, by a mile
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Nick's gone, Brady's next hour or two in La
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Show, jam Stack Show.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So you know Jimmy Johnson Jmack was on our show,
How wat You Go? And one of the things he said,
and this is one of his mantra, is that you
lose a lot more games in the NFL than you win.
And that was Jameis Winston and Cleveland last night. First
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downs Cleveland had more passing first downs Cleveland. Third down
efficiency Cleveland was better. Fourth down Cleveland was better. Passing
yards Cleveland was better. Possession dominate, time of possession Cleveland
was better. Yeah, they had those pick six things. You
lose a lot more games than you win. And Jameis
Winston was exhibit a. Last night, bow Knicks never took
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a sack. Jamis Winston took a couple of beauties, like
really badly time sacks. Bow Knicks had two picks. One
was a deflection, one was like a change of possession
downfield of punt. Jamis had two or pick six is
in one in the end zone. So sometimes a quarterback
needs to be boring and manage the game. Jameis Winston
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is never boring. He's evil Knieval at quarterback. He's a
walking bat party. He's a parachutist who forgets his parachute.
Those skydivers don't last long. Bo Knicks, however, as a rookie,
had a sense of timing when to let it loose
and when not to And last out last night was
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a shootout, and shootouts happened in the NFL. And Jameis
Winston of his eighty five snaps, you went wow with
about a dozen of them, and then you went uugh
with about four to five of them. Now bo Knicks
had just sixty six snaps. He had a couple of wows,
but it was mostly there we go at a quarterback.
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There you go, slide, get down, get the first down again.
Very few wows, but bo Nicks didn't really have a
oh no, And that's Jamis's career. I'd argue, Jamis Winston
is arguably the most talented quarterback in this league. I
would never build around, no, thank you. He would drive
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you nuts also, And I thought this was really telling.
And I've said this before. A coaching staff will tell
you what they think of your young quarterback by what
they allow him to do. It's almost like with your kids.
You will tell me how much you trust your kids
by what you allow them to do. Sean Payton multiple
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times with a lead against Miles Garrett and the Cleveland
pass rush, Sean Payton allowed bow Nicks multiple times to
drop back.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Deep in his end zone. He trust the kid. That
to me was telling.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Jamis Winston's a quarterback with a ton of talent, size arm,
nobody trusts him. Sean Payton's like kid, let her rip,
go down the field, roll out and Cleveland with a lead.
He's a rookie. Nah, It's okay. And to me that
was telling. And everybody keeps asking well it's Denver, for real, folks.
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Look at the boxes that playoff teams that win games.
Check head coach Denver a plus, quarterback, capable pass rusher,
Nick Benito, elite offensive line, PFF ranks Denver number two weapon.
I love Courtland Sutton cornerback best in the league. Every
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playoff box they check. Coach, quarterback, pass rusher, weapon, o line,
elite corner check tech, chech check. I could argue Kansas
City didn't have all those boxes checked. Now they've got
Mahomes and it's only bow Knicks. But this was a
classic example. This game didn't look anything like Denver thought
it was going to look like. And Bo Knicks didn't
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have a lot of wow, but he didn't have six.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Eh, what was that? Here's Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
After some games go maybe in a direction you think
they're going to go. Obviously that one went in a
much different direction. It was good to get the win.
That's important because we're in the you know, we're at
that time of the season into December here where all
these things matter, and you know we were able to
do that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, So if you look at the playoff picture, the
Broncos get a bye and then they get a host Indianapolis,
the closest AFC team to them in the playoff hunt.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They'll be favored in that game and should be Denver.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
At eight and five week off, perfect timing off a win,
feeling good, hosting an offense that can't throw the ball
with any consistency Indianapolis. I think Denver wins goes nine
to five. And again, if you ask yourself, are they
for real? Do they check the six boxes? They check
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all of them. Little young at quarterback, but sixty one
college starts makes you feel pretty good about that. In
the way Peyton Letts bow Nicks run around in the
end zone tells me all I need. No he trust
him in big spots. Okay, so I said this yesterday.
I think j Mack brought this up. We were talking
about is the Bears a good job? Well, so Kevin
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Warren the president. They could have hired Jim Harbaugh last year,
but Jim Harbor didn't like Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren used
to run the Big Ten. They don't like each other,
and so that's not going to happen. And you know,
so you just kind of retain Matt Eberflus, who you
know came into the season on the hot seat, so
hot he's gone. But yesterday Kevin Warren made a pitch
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that this is a really good job.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
But he may be right.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
We're going to have plenty of salary cap space, we
have a young, talented roster, we have strong draft capital
in the upcoming draft, and we have a quarterback in
Caleb Williams whos shown he is very special and in
the right environment he can become even more special than
he already has shown. You look up all of these elements.
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As we sit here today, we are in a unique situation.
This will be the most coveted job in the National
Football League this year.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Now, at first I thought, give me a break, mccaskey's
never had a four thousand yard quarterback. And then I
started thinking, well, there were questions about the Chargers, but
they had the quarterback right. There were questions for years
and years the Spanos family, Ah, they're cheap Chargering. I mean,
there was a lot of stuff about the Chargers. They
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moved to La played in a small stadium, Is it right?
And all of a sudden You're like, yeah, they got
the coaching staff right if they had the quarterback. So
I thought about the job opening Chicago, the Jets, the Saints,
probably the Jaguars, the Cowboys. I tend to think the
Giants in Cincinnati should retain their coaches. Not sure if
they will, but I would. You're talking about what did
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Jim Harball, what was he attracted to? It's quarterback, and
the two best would be Chicago and Jacksonville. Now the
Jaguars have the younger, richer ownership.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
That is something.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And also the Jaguars plan a much easier division. Whoever
gets that bears job. Good luck against Green Bay and
Detroit that have stacked young, ascending rosters, and good luck
with Minnesota, who they may have the best coach in
the division. But I was thinking about these two jobs
in Chicago, if you win, and I think coaches have
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to have healthy egos. The great ones do the Sean Payton,
the Belichicks, the Vrabuls, Andy Reid. You know, I mean
the best coach is mcveay Shanahan. There's a confidence. You know,
some will say arrogance, but I think it's a confidence.
And here's the thing about Chicago. If you win in Chicago,
you're a rock star. Chicago had Oprah and Michael Jordan
and Ditka and Mayor Daily and Wrigley Field and Belushi
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and Farley. Jacksonville, well, hey, they're opening a Chipotle next Wednesday.
I mean, even if you win there, I mean, Jacksonville's
where mobsters go to hide. Chicago was the mob like
it matters more Chicago historically, architecturally, politically, it's big. Chicago
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is big. Yeah, the division is going to be really tough,
but I mean Trevor Lawrence or Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence
is on what his fourth injury. Even when Jacksonville's been good,
the whole country's like, can we get back to the
Steelers and Patriots and Manning and Brady and winning games?
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Like Chicago matters. It's dysfunctional. Their politics and their sports
are dysfunctional. Their history's fascinating. I just think there's a
rock star quality to it. And if you look at
what the best coaches generally look at, and this is
why the Jets job is dicey. Not only do you
not have a young, ascending quarterback, you've got an old,
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prickly one in Aaron Rodgers, who's increasingly expensive.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
In Dallas.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I like Dak Everybody likes Dak but as the highest
paid player, he's at BB plus quarterback coming off another injury.
I think Chicago's the best job for a lot of reasons,
and one of it coaches have egos, and if you
hit it in Chicago, you're big, and that matters. There
are certain franchises the late John Madden used to tell
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our management all the time, certain games sound big.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Green Bay against the Niners.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Who knows whose quarterback it sounds big, Ravens Steelers, even
when Kenny Pickett played, it sounds big. The Bears can't
get quarterback right. If the Bears are playing green Bay tomorrow,
they could be oh to eight, You'd be like, oh,
it's a Packers and the Bears playing. And I think
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that stuff matters.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
And for that I do think.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And Caleb Williams and Montez sweat, Jalen Johnson, Keenan Allen
Cole come at DJ Moore, I think it is the
best job I've reconsidered. I mean, also, I get Caleb
for three more years minimum on a rookie contract.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
That matters too.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I've already paid Trevor Lawrence and he's expensive and has
it lived up on a contract, So I think the
Bears is the best job.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
J Macy. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Love when you have a good Reconsider why I slept
on it, especially after I present the fact you did.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And I was a little dire, and I, you know,
it's just been such a mess there.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And then I went home and I thought about it,
and I thought, boom, check check check check. I like
their players, we both like their talent, We both like
their tight end receivers. We thought a year ago we
thought they're were good enough. Now they regress badly under
a defensive coach. My guest says, if you get the
right coach, it's like Denver by the Way two years ago,
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before Sean Payton got there, we thought the broncos O
line was a good left tackle and nonsense. Pff has
it number two? Well that's Sean Payton. He got at
the top ten last year. Now he's got at the
top too. Andy Reid, by the way, is constantly rebuilding
the online in Kansas City. They always find a solution
by the trading deadline or November. So I kind of
think it's the best gig.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
So the New Orleans Saints job is open. You know
that division is going to be winnable every year because
nobody's good. But is there any talent on the Saints
compared to the Bears. It's night and day. It's not
even close.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I think the you know, I would rather have a
different ownership group in Chicago, but I don't know. I mean,
And also, the Bears have again They've got the eleventh pick,
and if you look at their schedule, they'll probably.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
End up with the eighth or ninth pick.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And this draft is considered very top heavy, so that
many people are saying there's only about ten to twelve
first round play this year. The Bears will get another one.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
I mean again, Raiders job could be open. I mean,
Pierce has got him, he's fighting, they're fighting hard. He
seems clueless. Is that a good job compared to the Bears?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, I get I will the Raiders is interesting. I
get Brock Bowers, who is the best young tight end
I've ever seen.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
He's a tight end.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I get Max Crosby, an elite pass rusher, and I
get Colton Miller left tackles. So there are three boxes.
Star weapon, left tackle, pass rusher. Okay, so I have
a new GM who has a history at drafting pretty well,
I mean Harbaugh took over the Chargers. They got some
good players, so there's some boxes there I like. But
if you don't have a quarterback. Now, the hit rate
for quarterbacks is going up over the last six to
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seven years. More than more of these guys are not
only hitting, but the guys that failed Gino Darnold Baker,
they're being reborn with better offensive coaching than ten years ago.
So I just think, if I have Caleb for four years,
I don't have to pay him in this roster. I'm
gonna deal with the Lions and the Packers excellence. That's
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a better job.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
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Speaker 1 (14:12):
So Lakers lost again last night, and Lebron James since
he came into this league even as a rookie. If
you go back to Lebron James' rookie year, take away
the first two months when he's straight out of high school.
He's eighteen years old. After the first two months, from
that point forward, he averaged twenty two points a game
and six and a half assists and finished top ten
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in MVP voting. So even his rookie year, he was
probably eighth, ninth, tenth best player in the NBA, and
he's been in that top ten forever. And then there's
the last four or five games, so he is in
an all time slump, and it's his legs. In his
last five games, he's shooting thirty nine percent and on
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his best nights, Lebron James is a top ten ish player.
And Michael Jordan, by the way, at thirty nine years old,
scored forty points three times. I saw one of those,
and he had thirty several times. But mj and Lebron
now are defensive liabilities. And if you're talking about the
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over the course of a season, he is no longer
a top ten player. And that's the first time in
his career I could say that Jokiches Wemby, Jannis Luca,
ad Donovan, Mitchell, Jason Tatum, SGA, Steph Curry, I think
on a you know, and again they've had five games
in seven nights, so the first thing to go is
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your legs. And that's why he shot an air ball
last night that he missed the rim by three feet
and it wasn't short or long.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
It was to the left.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So yeah, for the first time ever, Lebron does not
feel and this first time in like twenty some years,
he does not feel like a top ten player in
the game. Again, He'll have his nights, he'll have his moments,
and we saw that last night and the night before,
and he'll have his moments. But the first time in
his career, I do not believe over the course of
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a season because you can say, well, when he's rested,
that's not the NBA regular season that this stuff counts too,
not just the playoffs. Here's Lebron after.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Is it not that often that you go through, you know,
shooting something like this. There are many things you lean
on to try to get out of it.
Speaker 9 (16:23):
Ye.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
So he has missed nineteen straight three pointers. Nineteen straight
three pointers. Jmack has never missed nineteen straight three pointers.
I'm not saying J Max Lebron. I'm saying he's a gunner.
But the point is nineteen straight is beyond Look at
this one. Look at boot that's brutal. I mean that
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that is an eighty four mine hour fastball. I mean
these are bad for Lebron, who's got a pretty nice touch.
I'm not knocking him like the guy's been. There's no
player in the history of the league that was top
ten in the league for twenty plus years. Kareem's the
only one close. But I think, and again, Lebron's gonna
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have a thirty five point game at some point during
the season. I was at Michael Jordan's last year with
the Wizards. I went to one of the games in
which he had forty. He was unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
But it's a.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Michael wasn't playing defense. Michael was inconsistent. Michael didn't get
along with teammates. That's why JJ Reddick, very early in
this maiden rookie season of coaching, first game, he handed
the keys to a d He knew who the best
player was. And we can go back and forth on
who the best Laker player is. But last year we
said it past the All Star break, the best player
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was ad on this team. Now the gap has widened.
J Mack with a news.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
You know I'm over here. I'm resisting the urge to
chime in on Lebron. I'm sure it'll be an opportunity later.
Got to defend the King.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Let's start with in the NFL, with the Eagles of
their eight game winning street, Colin.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Jalen Hurts has quietly been phenomenal.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Twenty touchdowns, Russian good passing, and just two turnovers during
that stretch. But weirdly, the inkstained wretches in the media
are calling him a game manager unbelievable, partially because he
just threw five times in the second half against the Ravens.
Nick Siriotti is shutting down that narrative.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
You'll say, well, game manager, that's bo that's all bold, Like,
Jalen played an awesome game, and his stats are going
to say where we didn't throw it a lot. We
were eleven and nineteen. He had one hundred and eighteen yards.
But that guy made runs when he was when he
needed to make runs. He made good checks. You know,
we haven't thrown it a lot in the fourth quarter
in the past month and a half of the season.
So you know, Jalen stats aren't going to say that.
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But Jalen Saquon deserves being an MVP consideration.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Well, Justin Herbert doesn't put up big numbers because it's
a there's a different way to attack it. I mean
The truth is Brady could have had much better numbers
in his career, but they often played with leads in
the second half, and so you call a game differently.
You're trying to eat the clock and shrink a game.
When Tom Brady's thirty five and you're thinking we leave
twenty seven to seventeen middle third, you're trying to get
the clock moved down. So I mean to me, I
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don't I'm never been a stats guy. Mahomes is the
best quarterback. I think this year, Josh Allen and Lamar
look like the better quarterbacks. I don't care much about stats.
I know this for Jalen Hurts, he and AJ Brown
are great together. He helps Saquon Barkley. Nick Sirianni said
he got some really important checks. That stuff matters. All
I know is Herbert and Jalen Hurts are franchise quarterbacks.
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Joe Burrow's putting up massive numbers because he trails because
he has to.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He has no choice.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So I don't get too caught up in you know,
like pass I always look at sort of completion percentage
in passer rating. Can you get to at least sixty
four percent completion percentage? If you're into the fifties. That
scares me.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
And your passer rating ninety eight or above, you're good.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
So I think the only mistake Siriotte made here was saying, yeah,
Jalen deserves MVP consideration, Like let's let's not go there.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
He's not an MVP.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
The Eagles fund stat they are last in pass attempts
this season, and I know people will say, like, oh,
there's a passing league.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Just stop. The Eagles know what they are.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
We're gonna run the football on you and just wear
you down and then kill you at the play action
with aj Brown.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Listen, and when.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
DeVonta Smith comes back, good luck guarding both of them.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I mean, I don't know how many pass attempts Jameis
Winston had last night, but it had to be closer
to fifty eight, I believe.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, do you really want that?
Speaker 8 (20:36):
By winningly, you know, in the fourth quarter and he's
still chucking and duck it. I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't want Peyton Manning and his crime throwing fifty
eight tentions. I don't want Mahomes doing it with Kansas
City's tackles. The bottom line is the Buffalo Bills are
a better football team the less they rely on Josh Allen.
I mean, James Cook has changed their offense. They have
a home run hitter. For years and years, we were
always like, they can't establish a run game. Now they
have one. So Josh Allen on certain drives, can be
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your number two pitch. So I don't want my quarterback throw.
I mean Dak Prescott's history. If he throws over thirty
eighties offul if he throws like thirty five or less,
he's pretty good.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Isn't a weird how three of the best teams in
the league, Buffalo, Detroit and Philadelphia dominate the line of
scrimmage and run the football down your throat. Funny how
that works. I'm told this is a passing quarterback league,
but this is still one in the trenches. And that's
where these three teams are dominating. They're the three best
teams in the league right Look at their running games.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
You can't stop them. That's what's smart.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
I just don't get it. Next up, No, boy, I
don't know what Bill Belichick's doing here. And this is
a good question for Brady when he comes on later.
So Aaron Rodgers is struggling, You and I have called
this all season. Belichick, for some reason is defending Aaron Rodgers,
saying the forty one year old could easily rebound and
have a good year next year. Addings, sometimes one season
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is just a bump in the road. It's not necessarily
the end of the road. Now, obviously Belichick's forgotten more
football than you and I know combined.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
But this is insane, Jim, I mean, Bill's never had
a great sense of offense. We all know that Matt Patricia,
offensive coordinator missed, was not a good I mean, when's
the last skill player Belichick draft that It could be Gronk.
I don't know skill player that was a Pro bowler.
So you could say, well, well this Steve Spagnola doesn't
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no offense and Bill Belichick does not does He's not
He's tone aft wat offense. He reached on draft picks. Offensively,
he could not get a wide receiver right. So the
idea that I think Bill Belichick is a great coach,
he's the best defensive coach. Ever, I don't want him
near my personnel. I don't want him near it. So
all these coaches have holes. Jimmy Johnson and Sean Payton
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and McVeigh have they know personnel well, a lot of
these coaches, like Andy Reid's like this not my thing,
and Andy's the best play designer and play caller arguably
of my lifetime.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
I think the.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Issue is, like, Okay, so Belichick's doing a lot of
media now, but if he's going to say nonsense like
this because he doesn't want to like ruffle feathers, Aaron
Rodgers would probably agree, this is the worst season he's
had in fifteen years, maybe the worst season of his career.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
He's not a top eighteen quarter colin.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
They got him DeVante Adams and he hasn't.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Done anything with them, zero impact.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
So, like even Rogers would say, that's so, why is
Belichick saying this? Do you think there's some wacky world
where Belichick's like hoom.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I think if I take a job.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No, And this is not a knock on Belichick, but
since he's taken the job at the ESPN, this is
not a criticism of him. He has been sent Rex
Ryan did this when he first went to ESPN. They
send messages to the league. Bill is constantly sending messages
to the league. So Bill would rather coach than do
media and he's doing a fine job. I'm not criticizing him.
But Rex Ryan sent a message about a week ago.
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Damn right, I'd take that jet's job. That was a
message to Woodie Johnson. So coaches do this all the
time when they get tired of this side of the
microphone and want to be on the other side. And
I think I would do it too if I was
a football. Bill Parcells and who I love, you know
these guys all Sean Payton was here for a year.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I went to dinner with Seawan. I'm like, you got
to coach. You're good at this stuff. You got to coach.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And I knew I was gonna lose him twenty times
a year. But Belichick needs to be a football coach.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
So Belichick using a mike to send a message, what
are you gonna do that to get us some nice
contracts here at Fox?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
You can That's a different discussion.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Final story is Kirk Cousins Colin. He is really struggling.
Six interceptions in the last three games. He had four
against the Chargers. I mean, this is embarrassing.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
There is chatter about.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Rookie Michael Pennock's junior you know, maybe taking over, But
yesterday the media asked him about it, and Penick said
that he believes Cousins will bounce back. Rahie Morris added
the team as sticking with Cousins, they will not turn
to Pennis. Falcons are five point underdogs in Minnesota, and
I should add I got some numbers here for you.
We know the Vikings are one of the number one
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or two blitz teams in the league. Do you want
to know Kirk cousins numbers under pressure this year eight
interceptions under pressure, second most of the NFL, and under
pressure twelve turnover worthy plays. According to Pro Football Focus,
that's top in the NFL. This is a recipe for
disaster this weekend for Cousins.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Colin in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's interesting. I looked at I have blazing five this week.
I looked I was struggling to find it. Now. Underdogs
did very well over Thanksgiving, College and pro A lot
of underdogs did well. Go look at the lines this week.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I struggled.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
I liked every favorite you like Minnesota here.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
For the same reason you watch you.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
I mean, it's well, the number was four and a
half yesterday. I see it's up to five.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Now, I guess I'll tell you the wise guy. The
Sharps went and bet Minnesota.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
You know, there's a bunch of guys who claim to
be film guys now on social media and you go
on there, they're breaking down film. They are claiming that
Cousins has some kind of injury that's been undisclosed.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
And if you watch some of the throws, it's like,
is he healthy?
Speaker 7 (25:57):
I mean, Colin, he was not moving against the char
He would rather just throw the ball and it's getting
batted down at the line.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
He couldn't. He couldn't drive the ball. That was very clear.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
And is there is there a shoulder issue? I don't know.
Would would you consider turning to Pennix?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (26:12):
I would.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I have no problem with it if he's ready. Now again,
this very very much Lamar Jackson with Joe Flacco. Flacco
got old fast boom they put him in. If Pennox
is showing you at practice he's ready. He may be
Jordan Love where he needs another year or something. But
he played so many snaps at Indiana and Washington. I
think he's ready to play, and he played in like
a pro style offense with Grub's offensive coordinator and and
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and Klin de bor So. To me, Pennix was very
NFL ready, But I said this, bow Knicks, Pennix were
ready to play. Drake May was not ready to play.
He just he just wasn't ready to play. And I
think you've seen that jmck with the news.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd. Lie.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I was watching bow Knicks last night and I got
this this morning. Bow Nick since week four in the
fourth quarter, he's numbers are incredible. Fourth quarter rookie quarterback
seventy three percent completion percentage, one hundred and eleven passer rating,
six total touchdowns, a pick. So there's two reasons for that.
Sean Payton and bo Nick started sixty one college games.
If you watch Anthony Richardson of the Colts, who started
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thirteen college games a quarter as many as boon Nicks.
You can watch Caleb Williams, Drake May and Anthony Richardson,
and you can see the baby sitting by the coaching
staff bone Nicks last night with a lead against the
good pass rushes out there slinging it from the end zone.
So this is one of these things those sixty one
college starts. It's immeasurable. It's hard to quantify how much
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it means. It's like when you're a young chef, your
first job shouldn't be six thirty to eight thirty Saturday
night in a busy restaurant.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Right, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
When you get your you go to driver's ED class
and the first time you get behind the wheel probably
shouldn't be on the auto.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Bonn like bon.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Nicks, is ready to sixty one college starts, sec PAC twelve,
multiple coordinators, multiple coaches.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Dude is ready to play. And I'm watching this last night.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
If you look at the playoff picture right now, Denver
at eight and five going to a bye week than
the Colts, I think they look like a playoff team.
I think I think you're all asking about bon Nicks.
I watched him last night. Yes, he is still growing,
but I think he's fairly close to his ceiling. He's
not gonna get more athletic. He's not going to get bigger.
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I think his arm feels better than it was in common.
I mean, where's bone Nicks gonna grow? He's going to
grow in watching coverages, and that part's obvious. But I
think he's fairly close to his ceiling. I don't think
Caleb's close to his ceiling. I don't think Dre drat
May's remotely close to his ceiling. I think boon Nicks
is closer to after sixty one college starts and then
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three quarters of a season with you know, Sean Payton,
what you're watching, he's what he's going to get is
more refined. His completion percentage will go up. But those
fourth quarter numbers for bow Knicks, fourth quarter often coming
from behind everybody knows you have to throw, are really
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really impressive. First month, little over his skis games real fast,
little overwhelmed, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
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and noon Easter not a em Pacific.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
All right, we moved my buddy Nick right Coh's first
things first, he's crushing it up a little bit today
because Tommy Brady, we don't move Nick very much.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Tom's in house. You know, I feel bad.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
I mean, I've I've been with the company eight and
a half years. I mean, I don't know who needs
to be bumping. Oh, but I mean I'll take it
for your guy, Tom Brady. What I will say, is
this this could be the start of the greatest forty
minute run in the history of the network. Yeah, I
mean you and me together, Then the Herd hierarchy long awaited,
then Tom Brady and Colin. I mean, I don't know
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if this needs to go in the I'm gapsled, but
I think so. So let's sorry, we don't have a
lot of time.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Let's do it all right, Let's start with the Bears.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I said earlier today, Jim Harbaughs said, I'll take the
Chargers job they have justin Herbert. Kevin Warren yesterday said
it's the best job opening, and I looked at it.
I get Caleb Williams. I'm not paying him for four years.
DJ Moore, Keenan Allen Montees sweat.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
How would you? I mean, is it the best job?
Speaker 10 (30:24):
Well, it's of all the jobs that we expect to
come open, like, it's certainly better than the Jets and
Saints jobs which are already open. You know, I love Trevor,
but he has underwhelmed that job should come open. The
Bear's job is better than that. Before the year there
was thought, oh is Philly or Buffalo going to be open?
The answer those are No, they are not, So take
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those off the board. Say Dallas comes open. The Bear's
job is better for everything you said, and it's why
I understand everyone is going to go after Ben Johnson.
But for the Bears in particular, you are pairing an
offensive mind with Caleb, which I think they must do,
and you are weakening your biggest inter division competition in Detroit.
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So I think while a guy like Vrabel would be
great for Jacksonville, if that opens up to ad stability,
I think Chicago has to go offensive mind and fresh ideas.
I love the Ben Johnson idea if they could get him,
and if I were Ben Johnson. Of all the jobs
that are open or are likely to come open, I
certainly think Chicago's the most attractive because I believe in
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Caleb as much as I ever had.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So I'm watching in the snow globe, and by the way,
Buffalo looked like they have. They were having the time
of their lives. It was like when we were eight
years old and it snowed for the first time. They
were out there playing in the backyard. But I noticed
Josh Allen on one side and brock pretty on the other,
and I thought, you want to pay them about the same.
You and I always pushed back on the old Broca Root.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
We don't get yelled at as much as we once did.
Did those people switch over to Blue Sky from X?
I don't know what happened to him. You just don't
hear as much of people.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Why won't you give brock Perty his respect?
Speaker 10 (32:13):
And the injury is because Rock Party, like a lot
of players, non indictment is a mirror. He is going
to look exactly like the talent around him. And listen
the Niners when they had five all pros on offense
last year, all playing at their apex, Rock Party looked excellent.
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This year, when the Niners don't have the worst skill
position in the league the least talent, it's just league average.
He looks league average, Which is why I think it
would be insane.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
After this year to pay Rock Party.
Speaker 10 (32:51):
I would certainly want to see him next year when
you know what are what talent is going to be
around him? Was this year the anomaly or was last
year the anomaly? I think it is worth noting that
in his last sixteen games, he's eight to eight. He
has as many touchdowns as turnovers his pass like sixteen games,
not a small sample, starting with that Ravens game last
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season which ended his MVP candidacy. But Colin, I want
to be kind of first to market with this idea
and bounce it off you. If the Niners season continues
to go the way it does and they end up
with a top ten pick, is it crazy to suggest
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that they could draft a quarterback, because I don't think
it is. We saw Kyle Shanahan say I have a
quarterback that I went to an NFC championship game and
a Super Bowl with. I think we can do better,
and they gave up three first round picks to try
to go get that guy. Now, the guy was the
wrong decision in Trey Lance, but the idea was he
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clearly thought if we had a mobile run threat quarterback,
what this offense could unlock with Shador cam Ward, Jalen
Milroe all.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Being potential top ten picks.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
If the Niners are sitting there, don't have to trade
any draft capital to get one of those guys, and
then almost assuredly could get a first round pick and
then some for a team for Brock Party. Is that
something that would be crazy rather than them as an
aging team and expensive team paying brock Purty fifty five
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million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Who is Shanahan's primary rival in this league? Sean McVay.
Mcvay's what they do. So mcvey's got an older pocket quarterback.
Cam Ward would be a young, inexpensive, big arm mobile quarterback.
How do you catch up to your rival? The Rams
are stacked with young defensive talent. The Niners are old son.
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I can see Shanahan saying mcvay's already got a ring.
I'm not rebuilding on this team. Young dynamic quarterbacks, shortened rebuilds.
I mean, they change things.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
So I think you can keep all the talent.
Speaker 10 (35:07):
And what I thought you were gonna say about McVeigh is,
what did McVeigh have the guts to do? Not with
the last pick of the draft, but with the first
pick of the draft, who had gone to a Super Bowl,
had an unbelievable season twenty eighteen, said you know what,
we can be better now there's not a Matt Stafford
out there for them. I understand that if this five
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and seven turns into six and eleven and the eighth
pick of the draft, I think that possibility has to
be open for them.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yep, No, I think, okay, I want to end with this.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
The Chiefs have the worst point differential for any eleven
and one team ever. Offensive tackle worries me. I do
like Isaiah Piccheco returning. They're not as good defensively. Now,
I will say Burl's got a bad defense, so does Lamar.
I think that the NFC actually at the top. Detroit
and Philly are kind of impressive. Buffalo's good, but it's
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you know, we don't know. You have to acknowledge the
margins are like this, They're they're like paper fin with
this Chiefs team. Right.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
No, I don't have to acknowledge anything, and I what
I do have to do is force America to take,
you know, take on a go on a trip with
me a year ago. Because everyone's trying to act like
this all this this year is different. You realize, if
the Chiefs lost every game on the rest of their schedule,
they would finish eleven and six.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Last year. They actually did finish eleven and six. Last year.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
Mahomes's numbers were worse, the offense was worse. They actually
looked vulnerable, and then we saw what happened. Everyone is
trying to retcon scenarios where the past didn't actually happen
and where this season they're like, well, they could have
lost that game. They could have lost that game, but
they didn't and listen. Unlike the Niners, who dealt with
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significant injuries and fell apart, the Chiefs by the fourth
game of the season were without wide receiver, one wide receiver,
two running back, one tight end, three four and five
their number two corner. They're now without their kicker. They
have beaten four of the five playoff teams they played.
(37:22):
The one they didn't play, it's a two point game
with two minutes left before Josh makes that amazing play.
Credit to him, and everyone's like, oh that, I'm worried
about him. They Mahomes had the worst six game stretch
of his career. They have dealt with crippling injuries. Those
guys are coming back and they're eleven and one.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
They left.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
Tackle is a real concern, which is why they signed
DJ Humphries, who was a Pro Bowler two years ago.
He will be the starter this coming weekend when they
play the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
I just it is, this is what happened last season.
Speaker 10 (37:56):
Last season, the entire media, except for you know, a
select few of us really just me said, this is
the year to get the Chiefs, this is the year
they don't have the magic. They then were underdogs in
three straight playoff games, won the Super Bowl, and the
whole media in unison said, I will never make that
mistake again. Now they're eleven and one and people are like, nah,
(38:21):
they're not that good.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
They're making the exact same mistake.
Speaker 10 (38:24):
So I would ask you, because I know you have
to go, but you're about to have Tom on because
the Chiefs just broke a record most consecutive victories in
one score games fifteen. That record was held by the
three to four Patriots. Tom Brady, obviously his first back
to back Super Bowls only back back Super Bowl ask him, Hey, Tommy, were.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
You guys just lucky? Or maybe did you know how
to win?
Speaker 10 (38:50):
And maybe is that having the best coaching quarterback thing
pretty damn valuable. My guess is he'll say that, you know,
they knew what they were doing, But maybe you'll say
it is just luck, you know, just luck. It does
a lot of you know, it's an oblong ball and
weird things happening.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I think winning close games is like winning at poker,
which you're great at. Which is there are sometimes the
luck of the draw, but over the course of an
extended amount of time on the table, skill and intelligence
and efficiency wins. It's got a poker, you know. Sometimes
the fumble goes your way, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the
cards don't.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
But we have to go. Got ten seconds.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
These other like the Lions, are getting more injured. The
Chiefs are getting healthier and getting the checkle back get
in Hollywood, ground back the best even the league by
a mile, people will agree.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
No mile is a lot.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Mile is a lot.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
The best team by a mile, by a mile
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Nick's gone, Brady's next hour or two in La
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