May 17, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin can't believe Scottie Scheffler, the number 1 golfer in the world and reigning Masters Champion, was somehow arrested in an odd traffic stop on his way to compete in the PGA Championship
He explains why the WNBA needs to step in and do more in order for Caitlin Clark to succeed
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, right here we go. It is a Friday, so
many weird topics today to talk about, strange, tragic, chaotic
live in LA. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be,
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. JAMAC. One of the strangest stories I
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ever recall, Scotty Scheffler, the number one golfer in the world,
got cuffed this morning by police, and it was after
a tragedy, and there was chaos and there was utter confusion,
and so he's now back on the course. But a
big picture, remember when I supported Golfer's bailing on the
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tour to go to the Lib Tour, and I got
a lot of pushback on that, and I said, Golf's
always been every man for himself. So there is a
prime example of what happened this morning. So Scottie Scheffler
is the best golfer in the world. He may not
be Tiger Woods dominant, he just won the Masters. He's great,
he's your number one asset. He's going to make people
tens and hundreds of millions of dollars on the tour.
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So this morning in Louisville, Kentucky, and everybody's picking on Louisville.
But it's a major, right, the PGA Championship. A man,
you know, entering the golf course is struck a spectator
by a shuttle boss. Just a tragedy. But it's five
in the morning, it's dark out, nobody can see, so
somebody gives. So what happens is before this golf tournament, right,
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is that as the golfers are coming in, there's a long,
long delay and it's very hard to get in aception
to move a tea time. This is a major, Remember golfers,
this is not a league, right, Like golfers have to
make their own way. They pay for their travel, they
pay for everything. So tea time, what's happening. Well, it's
five thirty in the morning. There's flashing lights, there's cops,
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there's security. Scotty Scheffler drives up early tea time, and
he doesn't know the difference between cops and security and
he's just trying to get around the accident and get
into the tournament. So he drives up on the median
for about ten yards and some local I guess cop
not a security guard, races over, attaches himself to the car,
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makes it a wildly serious incident for driving over a median,
handcuffs him. He gets stuck in the back of a
police car, and you're sitting there thinking that this is
how you Yeah, we know it's a tragedy. By the
way Scotty Scheffler said this morning, he goes, there was chaos,
We're all confused. He goes, I feel terrible for the family.
It's an absolute tragedy. So Scotty Scheffer wasn't disregarding anything.
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There was just massive confusion. But this is what I've
said about golf. So the PGA Championship, this tournament is
run by the PGA of America. The last major, the Masters,
is run by Augusta National. The US Open is run
by the USGA, and the British Open called the Open
is run by the Royal Ancient Golf Club of Saint Andrews.
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I wonder why there's a little chaos at the PGA Championship.
Do you realize that Aaron Andrews, Tom Ronaldy, Kevin Burkhart,
and Tom Brady will have better security getting in and
out of football games than the number one golfer in
the world has getting into a major They'll have security
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from the airport. They'll have somebody pick them up at
Fox that takes them to the hotel. That hotel to
the stadium, than stadium to the airport. Back called security.
The NFL security and Fox security protecting our broadcast teams,
not even in playoff games, preseason games, regular season games.
Could be playing Tampa. The security is better protecting the
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announcers than golf does. Here's the number one golfer in
the world driving his rental car by himself. No idea
pitch black, five point thirty in the morning. Cop security,
he can't tell. Yes, it's a tragedy. Maybe he should
have been patient. But this is why I supported golfers
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when they bailed on the PGA and went to the
live tour. Golf has always been every man for itself.
Even the PGA was a sanctioned charity, so they were
taking care of themselves. Kind of an interesting charity, right,
So when everybody was outraged by it, I'm like, this
is a sport that wouldn't give their golfers who were stars,
like international stars. They couldn't own their own YouTube page,
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they couldn't profit monetize their social media.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
They don't have like escorts to majors. And yes it's
a tragedy, and yes there was chaos and confusion, and
that is obvious lee very important, But other golfers were
a mile and a half away in the pitch black
were getting out of their cars walking to the golf course. Again,
these are the most important people in this entire sport.
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Can you imagine Patrick Mahomes being cuffed and arrested traffic.
That's a picture of him on our TV screen, Patrick Mahomes,
justin Herbert Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson being cuffed and arrested
in traffic getting to the AFC Championship. Come on, man,
take care of your prized assets here rental cars figuring
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out five in the morning, pitch black lights. They don't
know what happened, They don't know of the tragedy, and
of course the tragedy is number one. We're acknowledging that.
But it just sometimes golf feels like a circus. And
it's why I always defend the golfers over the event.
It's every man for himself. They're all independent contractors. It's
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also why you'll find broadcast cast employees and NFL employees
often very loyal to the NFL or a Fox or
a CBS or an ABC, because they're treated well, they're protected,
they're promoted, they're marketed, they can own their own YouTube page.
Just a thought. Scheffler by the way, on the course,
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obviously a tough day for him and everybody involved in this.
A lot of good people in this sport, in this event.
It's not pick on Louisville. It's not about Louisville. It's
just about a circus and golfers out of their car
walking up there by themselves. Pitch Black, the number one
guy in the world, getting cuffed. We've got to do better.
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Speaking of got to do better, so Caitlin Clark, twenty
eighth year of the WNBA. They have never had a
player either good enough or interesting enough to drive marketing
revenue and TV ratings so that the entire league can
fly private, they fly commercial like the rest of us.
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That doesn't mean they're have him in. Good players, very
good players, But Caitlin Clark, who's never played until a
week ago in a WNBA game, is the first player
that appears they're banking on her. And I say banking literally.
They're literally going now to private flights for two years.
The money they're going to spend on that's more than
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the WNBA payroll. So they finally have this moment. Don't
put Caitlin Clark up in the first four games against
New York twice, in Connecticut twice, the best defensive teams.
The NFL gets Jim Harbaugh in the league. What does
the NFL do. They give the Chargers the two potentially
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easiest games on their schedule, Caleb Williams to Chicago. So
whereas the NFL has the Chargers facing the Raiders at home,
the NFL with Cayleb Williams in Chicago won't have them
playing the very good Packers until week eleven. Why they
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want Caleb Williams to get his Sea legs open up
with Tennessee. Give him a fighting chance. Not a lot
of TV exposure until weeks fifteen seventeen. They figured it out. Connecticut,
the New York Liberty twice, Connecticut twice. Caitlin Clark struggling.
She struggled last night. You've got to take advantage of
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these opportunities. You know a great example the MLS, and
it's closer to the WNBA than it is the NFL.
They made sure Beckham got to Los Angeles. They weren't
gonna put in the middle of the country. They made
sure he got to Los Angeles. Have you noticed with
Messi the MLS has a salary cap. I was told
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this morning. Messi makes more than all but four teams.
What about the salary cap? Whatever, Sometimes you gotta make
stuff work. David Beckham got to La Messi got to Miami.
I'm not sure if it was the Illuminati, secret handshakes,
smoke filled rooms, make it work, Caitlin Clark, this may be.
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I mean when Tiger Woods came on to the tour,
it was still it was the tour. Jack Nicholas getting older,
they needed a driving star. They just made stuff work
for Tiger. Well, I should say this the networks. Did
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the NFL remember that year when Goodell was having to
defend the catch rule in the NFL. It got real
murky for two or three years. And then in the
Super Bowl Philadelphia, New England, huge numbers, great game. They
changed the catch rule in the Super Bowl. Sometimes with
Super Bowl halftime shows, your lip sync. Make it, just
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figure it out and make it work. Caitlin Clark's opening
with the Liberty twice the Connecticut Sun. I don't know
what they have to do. I don't know if they
have to change the trade rules, if they have to
get her better players, lighten up the schedule. But this
is the twenty eighth year. This is the first player
that is driving revenue and interest so that the draft
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for the WNBA tripled, the WNBA Finals tripled.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
It. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I watched it wa I could barely tolerate the NBA.
I don't even know if I'll watch it this year.
I don't know who the players are. Sometimes you just
have to get stuff done. You just have to figure
it out. Get messy paid, get back into LA, get
Caitlin Clark an easy schedule. The NFL acknowledges Chicago New
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York Jets Aaron Rodgers. We don't know what the Jets
are going to do by week twelve, but we're gonna
get them on TV as much as we can. Or
the NFL's totally authentic about that. They were quoted yesterday
a guy in the NFL is like, well, yeah, the
Jets always won, So we're gonna squeeze every bit of
juice out of the orange we can with Aaron Rodgers
and get him on TV a bunch early, light easy
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schedule early, but television early to let Aaron shine. WNBA.
You gotta do better. You gotta help Caitlin Clark. Because,
for the record, when Tiger came to the tour, everybody won.
The tournament's won, the other players won, the purses went up.
The networks made it work. I mean, networks were changing
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programming whatever, whatever you gotta do, change the programming. Got
to do a better job of that, all right. So
two of the strangest opens I've ever had to a show.
The golf thing is just a tragedy and chaos. I
just feel bad for everybody. Also, we said this yesterday
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in our show. We said this yesterday that bet the
Minnesota Timberwolves. Now we didn't say they win by forty five.
I think it was I gave it up middle of
the third, they emptied the bench. But it is, it is.
I'll tell you what it does show you about the NBA,
the Tea Wolves beating the Nuggets by forty five, and
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it's not necessarily showing you something that's a bad thing.
And I'll talk about that coming up. Nick right by
the way in studio. He's out here in LA this weekend.
He's gonna sit down and join us. Can't wait for that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
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Speaker 1 (12:36):
So you had a feeling Minnesota was going to come
out very energized. I didn't know they be that energized.
And Denver sort of mailed it in. So we will
have a game. Seven does not mean Denver is guaranteed
to win. I don't know what the line is this morning.
Jamack will chase that down's four. I think I'd take
Denver to win, but I think they'll roll. But I
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would say this, What it really shows is that anybody
that can beat Denver by forty five points in a
playoff game, a close out playoff game, is a hell
of a team. The Celtics record against the East this
year was forty one and eleven, eight and two in
the playoffs. You know what the Celtics record was against
Denver Minnesota OKC two and four. There were one on
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one against the Lakers, who already got bounced. The Celtics
are just a team out West. They're unbeatable. They're they're
they're the greatest team on Earth in the East and
the and the West remains the grown up table, and
the East the kids table, and you can and these
Western teams are only getting you better. Minnesota once they
get ant a great running mate his Pippin, watch out.
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They're well coached, brilliantly constructed. Denver's not going backwards OKC
and all their draft capital and stars. Dallas, uh, these
are just trench warfare. And what you notice about good
teams in the playoffs. Minnesota can win in Denver, Denver
can win in Minnesota. I mean Dallas has won a
couple of games in OKC OKC one in Dallas. The
Indiana Pacers, they're not at home. They're done six playoff games,
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one in five on the road, most blowout losses. They
don't even look like they can compete. So if you
go back to MJ's Bulls, the six titles, half were
one on the road. If you go to the Warriors,
four titles, three of four were one away from the
Bay Area. So the better the team, the less reliant
you are on fans in the home crowd. The Knicks,
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I'm sorry to say, are highly reliant on Madison Square
Garden and the energy it provides. But when I'm watching
this stuff last night, I'm like, tip of the cap
to Minnesota. I mean, Jamal Murray's hands banged up, Mike
Conley finally back. But in the West, if you're shorthanded,
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if Jamal Murray was just playing with a bad hand,
you're in big trouble. Mike Conley's out, you're in big trouble.
Knicks are missing four of their top eight players. They're
probably gonna win a game seven and go to the
Eastern Conference Finals. They're missing a center, a power forward,
oh gee, they're missing all their size. They're starting four guards,
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and because they're at home, mill win. It's just a
totally different sport. It's the SEC the last twenty years.
You know, the Alabama Georgia run, it was like you
could find the third or fourth best team often in
LSU they would be better, sometimes significantly than the champion
of another conference. And so that's what it feels like.
Tip of the Captain Minnesota, Jamal Murray had a bad
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hand and that was enough to get torched by a
great t Wolves team. Really good roster. J Mack with
a news.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, no turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
This is the herd line news.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
STORRT With the big game six tonight in Indiana, Jayalen
Brunson has the Knicks on the verge of their first
Eastern Conference Finals since two thousand. They're in Indianapolis for
the game. Josh Hart recently spoke about Brusson's late game
Erow compared him to Dame Lillard, saying, in my short
stint with Dame in Portland, my mentality was to make
sure the game was within striking distance in the last
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couple of minutes, so Dame can do what Dame does.
And it's the same same thing with Jalen Brun's is
gonna have to do it tonight without og Arnobi, who
has officially been ruled out again.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well he play in the next series.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Should be yeah, I mean maybe He's bet there for
Game seven. I don't know, maybe they just precautionary and
in case they needed a home Game seven.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I'm just curious on the Brunson comp of Lillard. I
don't know. I don't know if I'm buying that Lillard's
more of a three point like specialist.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, Brunson's he can make threes, but he's more of
a mid nine. Yeah, Dames a more naturally gifted offensive player, right,
Brunson's a lot of a grinder, floaters, mid range game,
better defender. You know, it's almost like Dame's an offensive
long ball specialist. That's what he does and as well
as almost anybody ever except maybe step Curry. So they're
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really actually, despite the position, they're really different players.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I don't know if you know this guy. It's not
quite seventies, but Andrew Tony who played Core sixers guard
twenty two. I barely remember him, but he was like
a mid range assassin Stocky.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Guards number twenty two. I think Andrew Jasey something like that,
and he was just like physical.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
That's who brought. But we don't see a lot of
point guards being mid range guys now.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Well, Chris Paul made their career again. Very good defender. Great.
If you're gonna Brunson is if he has a comp
it's Chris Paul. But Chris Paul more of a distributor
than a score. Nobody can Chris and Is primed their score.
He was a great. So Brunson and Chris good defenders,
smart guys, great leadership, are gonna bark. You know they're
gonna They're gonna take control of the floor.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I think bruns is a lot more likable than Chris Paul.
Chris Paul is weird.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I thought like I thought Chris Paul's commercials were funny. No,
Chris Paul was demanding of screw off teammates. Chris Paul
was demanding by the way, Phoenix stunk even with Booker
he got there. You're all of a sudden like, oh,
it's a finals team. You know. Sometimes leadership is hard. Yeah,
Tampa never had a leader at quarterback. Everybody loved Jamis.
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Tom had to bark at people. Remember Tom's screaming at
the Buccaneers O line in that meltdown in Chicago and
Brady screaming Jamis women, Winston's not gonna do that. I
didn't have the leadership moxie. So you know, leadership's hard.
You have to bark some day.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
You know, the two best teams Carmelo Anthony has ever on,
had Jason Kidd as a point guard in New York,
and I think Chauncey Billups was in the back court
in Debt, like you need that leader, that point guard,
and Brunson is kind of that guy.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I like it, But I like the Pacers tonight though
it's six and a half. Is it too steep for you?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Might stay away?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, Nick's got an extra day. The Pacers on the
money line.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But the Pacers are so bad defensively. If you go
on the road in a big game, a game six
or Game seven, there's no assurance that you will shoot well.
A great defense will keep you in any game seven.
That's why like the Pistons, and if you go back
to the Pistons, the Great Celtic teams, the Great Bulls teams,
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it's hard to blow those guys out because even Michael
can have a bad game, even Bird can be off.
The Pacers problem is you're getting no defense, so the
only way for you to win is hit threes because
your defense is awful and That's why if I see
a bad defensive team, I cannot take you seriously. You
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can't win big games in a series because I mean
even a legendary offensive player and Mbiid or a Harden
Kobe Bryant got to a Game seven, the one that
Meta hit the threes to beat the Celtics. Remember that
Kobe was atrocious, couldn't hit anything. But the Lakers would
not give the Celtics any easy bucket. They couldn't score,
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and it was like in the end, Meta was the hero,
a defensive guy who hit threes. So the Indiana Pacers
are gonna have to win a shooting contest to have
any chance.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Brunson maygaf to go for forty. Finally, Brunson or Sga,
who would you rather build around?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
This is a tough one. They're both.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Sga is a more gifted offensive player, But I think
New York. Where would I rather build around? In New
York Bronson in most cities, I take Sga. In New York,
the grittiness, Villanova, toughness, leadership, and an organization that's lacked
it for thirty years, I'd take Brunson. There are certain
players that work in certain towns. And cities. Brunson in
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New York, Brunson in Portland. Nobody cares Brunson with all
these Nova guys in New York, they were surgence of
a bad franchise. Take him over virtually anybody not named
Yo Kitch or Luca Brunton.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
The two in Dallas Conference Finals, he was very good
out duel Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And you could never move him in New York. He's
too valuable, all right.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Next up to a Tonga, entering the fifth year of
his rookie deal, still waiting on that new contract, who
has reportedly been mostly absent from voluntary OTAs since the
team reported back on April fifteenth. The report speculates his
the absence is related.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
To his contract.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Obviously, two is coming off the best year of his career.
Colin best year of his career. He just watched Jared
Goff get the bag and don't give me this. Well,
look at the playoff game.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's one data point.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
If you look at the season, Tua was phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
He was healthy. You said, can he be healthy? He
was healthy? Did he put up numbers? They were one
of the best offenses in the league.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Goff's a better player than Tua.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Okay, he's a three million dollars a year better.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Goff has no injury history college or Pro TWOA has
substantial injury history both. That has to figure in.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So Tua says, I won forty five million a year.
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Thirty seven?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Don't get it?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Well, I don't get an opinion as the team.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
You get a great opinion.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I also have the opinion to walk the hell out
of the office, slam the door.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I'll see your good luck a week. What moving back up,
Mike White, He's at the back of the four.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
If Fox doesn't offer you what you like, you're gonna
swam into the door.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I'm not doing that. That's the agent's dealing with Fox.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I don't you know, well, I think it's mostly the
agents deal with two. I don't think two is sitting
down with the owner and yelling over a who is
the franchise? Like, come on, he is?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
You take two out of McDaniel's offense. What are they
back to the Ryan Tannehill world?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
The world? What are they battling for a wild card
with about two weeks to go?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You mean almost didn't think win the division?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
What's the same offense in San Francisco where brock perty
can get you to the NFC Championship thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
So you think he's sixteen million dollars a year less
than than Jared Goff.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's what Got's getting. Daniel Jones got forty.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, that that's a bad con.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I don't care he's getting forty.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You can't let the Giants control the league market.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No oh, yeah, the market talks, and if market is
getting more.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Than the Giants talked, we're stupid. Yeah, Cleveland cannot set
the precedent. Nobody else is getting guaranteed money. Lamar Jackson's
much more than Deshaun Baltimore didn't go well, Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Set the market well the timing.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Everybody does it individually. I'm not I'm not buying this.
That guy got our situations differently.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Do you know what's different?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Hey, Raiders, Do you want to roll the dice with
Shader Sanders or you want Tua who could take you
to the playoffs instantly?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Raiders will give up forty forty five million a.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Hard I don't have a Telesco likes him, the GM
like you. I have no problem with Tua hitting the
market and leaving but that's what.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
You're doing by saying, hey, you're thirty seven million a year.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Well, what I'm saying is no state tax, Tyreek Hill,
Jalen Waddle, brilliant offensive coach. You don't think Miami's an
attractive place for a free agent quarterback next year? Okay,
they would be number one. They would be number one.
There's nobody Dak Prescott could be available.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You think Dak's better than Tua.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I think Toua throws a better ball. I think Dak
has a proven history of his Longer he's on the tarmac, longer,
I got more, I got more reps in the play here.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Gave me a good team for Dak next year. I
forget no, no Dak.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Keep your eye. If if Dak's gonna have I'll tell
you right now, Vegas. And if Tua left, Miami would
be interested in Dak, no question. I mean, Kirk Cousins
had a market. Kirk Cousins had two to three teams
after him. But my point is Miami's got a brilliant
offensive coach, tremendous weapons, drafts pretty well, no state tax,
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playing in warm weather. You don't think Miami Dolphins are
attractive to a free agent quarterback. I if I'm free
agent quarterback, if Miami would have been available this year,
and I'm Kirk Cousins, I'd have gone to Miami over Atlanta.
I get Tyreek Hill Waddle and that offensive coach or
losing franchise Atlanta defensive coach.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yeah, and like eight million dollars a year more. I
don't know what's the state tax situation in Nevada.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Red Raiders zero zero state tax.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Oh oh, that's an attractive spot, Davante Adams.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
They probably have some of the receivers. I'm not Oh,
brock Powers. Didn't they get Brock Powers?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeh?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Come on, Adam brock Powers.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I've got a sign with the player here.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
You could side with the billionaire owners and be in
penny pinching when it comes.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
To paying quarterback.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
John's supporting the little guy who wants thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Let's do it again, Let's do it again.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Jordan Love set to play on a one year extension
to his rookie deal this season. He's looking for another
long term contract just like two Ways. Despite Love trending
upward at the end of last season, leading to the
pack the Packers that went over the Cowboys. Adam Schefter reports,
wait for it, Green Bay and Love are not anywhere
close to a new deal, so currently not paid, no extension.
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Trevor Lawrence Tua, Jordan Love, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff. That
deal just reset the quarterback market.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
He is not. I'm sorry, he is not.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Definitively significantly better than any of those quarterbacks calling Jared Goff.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Come on, he's that much better than Jordan Love.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
At this point, I have a big, full resume of
Jared Goff's two NFC championship with two teams. Jordan Love's
given me eight good weeks. Jordan Love's gonna get his money.
He's just not gonna get it now. This idea that
you have to pay everybody early where did? This is
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not the NBA? What do you mean early?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It's not early.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
He's got a year left in his contract, and.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
If he gets injured this year with an ACL or something,
he's screwed and he's not.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Getting paid at all in today's medical advancements an ACL.
Joe Burrow's been hurt four times. He's upright now, you're
ready to move off if he gets hurt again. And
Kirk Cousins just got one hundred and eighty eight million
as an old man with an achilles surgeon loves tears
his acl They're not moving off Jordan Love. They heal it.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Fine.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Fine, Let's say he's throwing shoulder something real scary. Come on, man,
you got it for these guys.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, there's a difference between protecting a golfer getting into
a tournament and giving somebody two hundred and forty million.
When I just wanted like six more starts. That does that.
You're you're you're conflating two things. Like the Packers are
going to sign him.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Okay, so let's say they have six starts. We now
have the Packers schedule, and.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
He goes five and one. It looks great. Okay, well
they'll be working on that deal.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Pull the Packer schedule instantly. But oh hey, look we
can on technology. So they start with the Eagles. It's
a tough game.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Going to the Colts game is not going to be
a cake off. They should handle the Titans and the
Vikings LA will not.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Be about winning and losing. If he plays Anthony Richardson
and looks like the second best quarterback and Jalen Hurts
and looks like the second best quarterback and he gets
outclassed by Matt Stafford and Kyler and c. J. Stroud. Yes,
so then what then you're like, guys are personnel's equal.
We have to reconsider what we pay him. Oh interesting,
(27:58):
My rule in the NFL it's always been the same,
pay huge money, very infrequently and only too quarterback, left tackle,
edge weapon. That's it. I'm not paying corners, I'm not
paying linebacker safeties. It's four positions quarterback, left tackle, edge
rusher or interior dominant lineman and a weapon or too.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
So in theory, that works.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
But Colin, there's this thing called chemistry that kind of
sort of matters. What's it going to do to the
locker room? What's it going to do to the franchise?
If you screw around with Jordan Love, all you've been
saying is the packers of the model they got far,
they got Rogers, they got Love, They're set, and now
you're gonna mess around and lowball a guy or wait
to pay him, show that man his money and keep
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that train rolling in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Collin, come on, the.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Train is rolling, and the train will continue to roll
just because it doesn't make an unnecessary stop in your
town doesn't mean Amtrak's not rolling. They got a scheduled
stop in about eight weeks. If he starts four to zero,
this story is going to change to Love in the
packers contract on the horizon. The story will shift very cool.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And then the price, what's the line from the wire.
Today's price isn't what yesterday's price was. And now that
forty becomes I need to see fifths.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, he's going to get more than forty.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
So two is a thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And Tua has an injury history in college and the pros.
Jordan Love has none that. And he's also a bigger quarterback.
He's more athletic. I think he's got a better arm.
Jordan Love in terms of size, mobility, whip injuries beats
two in all those, all.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Of that, I don't disagree.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I'm watching Jordan Love against Dak and it's not close.
Jordan Love's better, it's not close.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
The way you talk about him is like just them
pay the guy. I mean, give him a lot, and
you love him.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I love I love my kids. They're not getting anything
until I'm in a casket. There's a time and place
to pay. Everybody I'll be gone. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Heard Line news all you young Stallions. You want everybody
to get paid now, and it's like there's a time
and the place for everything. Green Bay's history is they
take care of their quarterbacks. With both Farvan Rogers, they
took passive, aggressive shots, a lot of neediness, star quarterbacks
(30:35):
unhappy with change, and the Packers ate it and just
were the grown ups. And then they reached a point
with Farvan error and it's like we're moving on. They've
shown more patience than most teams with owners would when
quarterbacks take shots. Green Bay will I trust the Packers
to figure it out. It's okay that they want six
(30:55):
more starts. This story is going to be different story
in six weeks.
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So I thought this was incredibly honest and transparent. I
don't you know, We're in a time in society. I
don't care if you have a different opinion than I do.
You have a perspect give You can be a kicker
for Kansas City, a quarterback for Green Bay. You can
have a different opinion. I've said this about Aaron Rodgers.
I think he's gotten a little kooky. The darkness retreats
(32:08):
Iahwascat whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
He can have.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
His opinion on vaccines, a lot of people had that,
you know, got rushed to the market. You know, there
was conflicting evidence on some of the vaccine stuff. It's
just an opinion. It's a point of view. You can
have one. It's okay. I don't have to agree with it.
Just give me honesty, Give me your honest opinion and
I'll deal with it. But it's just a perspective. But
the NFL just opened up and admitted something on the
(32:34):
NFL's NFL schedule and the New York Jets, which they
jammed a lot of their early games, very little rest
night games television, and Mike North, the vice president of
broadcast Planning, said, yeah, it's a lot of games in
prime time, but we kind of feel like the Jets
owe us. He goes. We had this conversation a year
ago and then Aaron Rodgers four plays in gets hurt,
(32:55):
and we had all these TV games with the Jets,
so I feel like we could run it back. Our
broadcast partners, said Mike North, when they came to us
early in the process talk about what storylines they want
to focus on early in the season. The networks, obviously
Aaron's return was a key one for everybody, the NFL
admitting we're a television show. We're a sport first, but
(33:18):
one a the sidecar is we're a television show. We
talked to our partners. Our partners say eight months ago, yeah,
these games, this feels like we'd writ and then when
we put the games up, and we move our schedule,
and we manipulate our schedule. They pursue the best stories.
They don't necessarily create the story. No, the league's not
(33:40):
rigged or Aaron Rodgers doesn't get hurt last year. They
don't rig it. They don't create it. But they pursue it,
and they help market it, and they can manipulate the
game sort of how I do my show. How come
you don't give us credit on not visa you get interesting,
I'll talk about you, you're not, I won't put you
on the show, or I'll put you on later. So
(34:02):
the only downside to having a star quarterback, and this
is about the only one. I mean, they're expensive. They
can limit some salary stuff. The other downside is your schedule.
You will get a lot of inconvenience. The Kansas City
Chiefs in December three games ten days, all against playoff
teams last year, and the Jets have six inconvenient night games.
(34:25):
I look this morning. The Chiefs play on Sunday, Thursday, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.
They only get Tuesday off this year, and it's all
due to Patrick Mahomes. So I just appreciate the NFL's
willingness to be frank and honest to their television show,
and I think a lot of other leagues kind of
(34:46):
struggle with this, and they're like, no, we want the
Chargers to start well. So we gave them the Raiders
at home, easier than playing in Vegas, and we gave
them Carolina, and we want Caleb Williams in Chicago, a
major market, to help Fox, our broadcast partner, so they
don't have I have to play the Packers the first
time until week eleven. Packers are really good. So Goodell
gives the Chargers Harvon Herbert, the weakest team in their
(35:10):
division week one at home. They don't make Caleb Williams
play the Packers, an excellent team, maybe the best team
in their division till Week eleven. That's not a mistake.
They got to play them anyway. The NFL. I've said
this for years about March Madness. If I was TNT
or CBS or whoever pays billions of dollars for the tournament,
if I'm paying for the wedding, I get to make
(35:32):
up the seating chart. I don't get to pick the
teams if I'm TNT or CBS. But I'm going to
tell you who I want to play each other in
the second round. I'm paying for the wedding, I get
some say and so yeah, the downside is they did
this a couple of years ago. The NFL did where
(35:53):
they stacked Russell, Wilson and Denver early and then when
they stunk, they disappeared. So Aaron's got all his games
on TV early, none late. But the NFL has fleg scheduling,
and so if they want to get airon backed, they
protect themselves Sunday Night Football flex scheduling. Peter Scheger talked
about the Jets schedule.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
If you ever thought the NFL was scripted, I promise
you the last thing the NFL wanted was to lose
Aaron Rodgers four snaps into the twenty twenty three season.
So now they're going to load up the front of
the schedule with the New York Jets. And there is
an expectation that Rogers is healthy, that this is the
number one media market in the world, and that that
same story that kept us afloat last year with hard
(36:34):
knocks and all the hype and all the expectations is
going to carry over to this year. The NFL shows
their cards a little bit by who they put on
early on in the season and who they promote in
these primetime games. And my takeaways are the NFL is
a lot higher on the Jets.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah. For the record, Jmack forty five minutes ago, I
started the show lamenting the WNBA, So unlike the NFL,
which is sort of grooving Caleb Williams to a potentially
easier start. Doesn't guarantee anything, but it could help the
w NBA with a bad Indiana fever team has him
(37:12):
played the Connecticut son a top defensive team, twice in
the first four games, and the New York Liberty twice,
one of the better teams schedule bad teams give Caitlin
Clark a little bit of help early on. She struggled
in the game last night. So it's like, boy, the
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MLS is a great model for the w NBA to follow.
They have just made sure Beckham got the best possible
way to succeed MESSI got the best possible way to succeed.
And again, I don't know if you have to move
up a trade deadline get Indiana better fast? Well, Colin,
what are you saying? I'm saying leagues manipulate schedules. There
(37:58):
was something a couple of years ago. It happened, it was,
it was rumored. I don't know if it officially happened.
Remember when the NBA put up an amnesty contract deal
because the Knicks were so buried in contracts. I know
it was discussed. I don't know if they went through
with it, but there was like this amnesty rule they
were talking about that everybody if you had a really
(38:20):
bad contract, I mean, you've got so many things happening
in collective bargaining. Sometimes you just have to change stuff
on the fly. So the WNBA, this is your Tiger Woods.
You just got to figure stuff out fast, like really
really fast. And NFL, and I've been on this for years,
they absolutely work their schedule to put stars in early.
(38:41):
If we have to put them on late, we'll flex it.
If not, we'll bury them. And there you go. Did
you see this? Jmack. I'm not gonna, I'm gonna. I'm
gonna talk about it to lead next hour. But it's
an interesting story. So Donovan Mitchell, you've been high on
him coming to the Lakers. Well, yeah, okay, NBA rumors
(39:03):
Donovan Mitchell grew frustrated by some of the Cleveland Cavaliers
lack of maturity and focus. Now, when I read that story,
tell me the NBA star that has never liked playing
with young players. Who could it be Lebron? That's why,
(39:26):
Donovan Mitchell, you talk about the Lakers, I can guarantee
you Donovan Mitchell and Lebron's people would be talking Lebron James.
There was a certain player that played in the Eastern
Conference for years, and his people contacted Lebron and Lebron's people,
and Lebron's smart group was like, no, he's too immature.
(39:49):
He's really really good, but he's an idiot. He's just
on a grown up So Lebron's history, I mean he
was in LA about a year. He was moving off
the young guys. Remember he went to Eveland. Gimme Kevin
Love not a number one pick. I don't want to
take a chance that Andrew Wiggins isn't ready to play.
So Lebron look at his history, no interest playing with
(40:09):
young guys. Donovan Mitchell making sure telling somebody if it's
on the rumor mill, I don't like playing with the
young guys. Am I wrong? It's interesting, it's a very
fitting rumor. I say, if Lebron read that, he would
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, right here we go. It is a Friday, so
many weird topics today to talk about, strange, tragic, chaotic
live in LA. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be,
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. JAMAC. One of the strangest stories I
(00:47):
ever recall, Scotty Scheffler, the number one golfer in the world,
got cuffed this morning by police, and it was after
a tragedy, and there was chaos and there was utter confusion,
and so he's now back on the course. But a
big picture, remember when I supported Golfer's bailing on the
(01:07):
tour to go to the Lib Tour, and I got
a lot of pushback on that, and I said, Golf's
always been every man for himself. So there is a
prime example of what happened this morning. So Scottie Scheffler
is the best golfer in the world. He may not
be Tiger Woods dominant, he just won the Masters. He's great,
he's your number one asset. He's going to make people
tens and hundreds of millions of dollars on the tour.
(01:30):
So this morning in Louisville, Kentucky, and everybody's picking on Louisville.
But it's a major, right, the PGA Championship. A man,
you know, entering the golf course is struck a spectator
by a shuttle boss. Just a tragedy. But it's five
in the morning, it's dark out, nobody can see, so
somebody gives. So what happens is before this golf tournament, right,
(01:54):
is that as the golfers are coming in, there's a long,
long delay and it's very hard to get in aception
to move a tea time. This is a major, Remember golfers,
this is not a league, right, Like golfers have to
make their own way. They pay for their travel, they
pay for everything. So tea time, what's happening. Well, it's
five thirty in the morning. There's flashing lights, there's cops,
(02:14):
there's security. Scotty Scheffler drives up early tea time, and
he doesn't know the difference between cops and security and
he's just trying to get around the accident and get
into the tournament. So he drives up on the median
for about ten yards and some local I guess cop
not a security guard, races over, attaches himself to the car,
(02:35):
makes it a wildly serious incident for driving over a median,
handcuffs him. He gets stuck in the back of a
police car, and you're sitting there thinking that this is
how you Yeah, we know it's a tragedy. By the
way Scotty Scheffler said this morning, he goes, there was chaos,
We're all confused. He goes, I feel terrible for the family.
It's an absolute tragedy. So Scotty Scheffer wasn't disregarding anything.
(02:58):
There was just massive confusion. But this is what I've
said about golf. So the PGA Championship, this tournament is
run by the PGA of America. The last major, the Masters,
is run by Augusta National. The US Open is run
by the USGA, and the British Open called the Open
is run by the Royal Ancient Golf Club of Saint Andrews.
(03:20):
I wonder why there's a little chaos at the PGA Championship.
Do you realize that Aaron Andrews, Tom Ronaldy, Kevin Burkhart,
and Tom Brady will have better security getting in and
out of football games than the number one golfer in
the world has getting into a major They'll have security
(03:40):
from the airport. They'll have somebody pick them up at
Fox that takes them to the hotel. That hotel to
the stadium, than stadium to the airport. Back called security.
The NFL security and Fox security protecting our broadcast teams,
not even in playoff games, preseason games, regular season games.
Could be playing Tampa. The security is better protecting the
(04:04):
announcers than golf does. Here's the number one golfer in
the world driving his rental car by himself. No idea
pitch black, five point thirty in the morning. Cop security,
he can't tell. Yes, it's a tragedy. Maybe he should
have been patient. But this is why I supported golfers
(04:24):
when they bailed on the PGA and went to the
live tour. Golf has always been every man for itself.
Even the PGA was a sanctioned charity, so they were
taking care of themselves. Kind of an interesting charity, right,
So when everybody was outraged by it, I'm like, this
is a sport that wouldn't give their golfers who were stars,
like international stars. They couldn't own their own YouTube page,
(04:47):
they couldn't profit monetize their social media.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
They don't have like escorts to majors. And yes it's
a tragedy, and yes there was chaos and confusion, and
that is obvious lee very important, But other golfers were
a mile and a half away in the pitch black
were getting out of their cars walking to the golf course. Again,
these are the most important people in this entire sport.
(05:16):
Can you imagine Patrick Mahomes being cuffed and arrested traffic.
That's a picture of him on our TV screen, Patrick Mahomes,
justin Herbert Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson being cuffed and arrested
in traffic getting to the AFC Championship. Come on, man,
take care of your prized assets here rental cars figuring
(05:36):
out five in the morning, pitch black lights. They don't
know what happened, They don't know of the tragedy, and
of course the tragedy is number one. We're acknowledging that.
But it just sometimes golf feels like a circus. And
it's why I always defend the golfers over the event.
It's every man for himself. They're all independent contractors. It's
(05:57):
also why you'll find broadcast cast employees and NFL employees
often very loyal to the NFL or a Fox or
a CBS or an ABC, because they're treated well, they're protected,
they're promoted, they're marketed, they can own their own YouTube page.
Just a thought. Scheffler by the way, on the course,
(06:19):
obviously a tough day for him and everybody involved in this.
A lot of good people in this sport, in this event.
It's not pick on Louisville. It's not about Louisville. It's
just about a circus and golfers out of their car
walking up there by themselves. Pitch Black, the number one
guy in the world, getting cuffed. We've got to do better.
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Speaking of got to do better, so Caitlin Clark, twenty
eighth year of the WNBA. They have never had a
player either good enough or interesting enough to drive marketing
revenue and TV ratings so that the entire league can
fly private, they fly commercial like the rest of us.
(07:02):
That doesn't mean they're have him in. Good players, very
good players, But Caitlin Clark, who's never played until a
week ago in a WNBA game, is the first player
that appears they're banking on her. And I say banking literally.
They're literally going now to private flights for two years.
The money they're going to spend on that's more than
(07:22):
the WNBA payroll. So they finally have this moment. Don't
put Caitlin Clark up in the first four games against
New York twice, in Connecticut twice, the best defensive teams.
The NFL gets Jim Harbaugh in the league. What does
the NFL do. They give the Chargers the two potentially
(07:43):
easiest games on their schedule, Caleb Williams to Chicago. So
whereas the NFL has the Chargers facing the Raiders at home,
the NFL with Cayleb Williams in Chicago won't have them
playing the very good Packers until week eleven. Why they
(08:03):
want Caleb Williams to get his Sea legs open up
with Tennessee. Give him a fighting chance. Not a lot
of TV exposure until weeks fifteen seventeen. They figured it out. Connecticut,
the New York Liberty twice, Connecticut twice. Caitlin Clark struggling.
She struggled last night. You've got to take advantage of
(08:27):
these opportunities. You know a great example the MLS, and
it's closer to the WNBA than it is the NFL.
They made sure Beckham got to Los Angeles. They weren't
gonna put in the middle of the country. They made
sure he got to Los Angeles. Have you noticed with
Messi the MLS has a salary cap. I was told
(08:51):
this morning. Messi makes more than all but four teams.
What about the salary cap? Whatever, Sometimes you gotta make
stuff work. David Beckham got to La Messi got to Miami.
I'm not sure if it was the Illuminati, secret handshakes,
smoke filled rooms, make it work, Caitlin Clark, this may be.
(09:17):
I mean when Tiger Woods came on to the tour,
it was still it was the tour. Jack Nicholas getting older,
they needed a driving star. They just made stuff work
for Tiger. Well, I should say this the networks. Did
(09:37):
the NFL remember that year when Goodell was having to
defend the catch rule in the NFL. It got real
murky for two or three years. And then in the
Super Bowl Philadelphia, New England, huge numbers, great game. They
changed the catch rule in the Super Bowl. Sometimes with
Super Bowl halftime shows, your lip sync. Make it, just
(10:01):
figure it out and make it work. Caitlin Clark's opening
with the Liberty twice the Connecticut Sun. I don't know
what they have to do. I don't know if they
have to change the trade rules, if they have to
get her better players, lighten up the schedule. But this
is the twenty eighth year. This is the first player
that is driving revenue and interest so that the draft
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for the WNBA tripled, the WNBA Finals tripled.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
It. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I watched it wa I could barely tolerate the NBA.
I don't even know if I'll watch it this year.
I don't know who the players are. Sometimes you just
have to get stuff done. You just have to figure
it out. Get messy paid, get back into LA, get
Caitlin Clark an easy schedule. The NFL acknowledges Chicago New
(10:52):
York Jets Aaron Rodgers. We don't know what the Jets
are going to do by week twelve, but we're gonna
get them on TV as much as we can. Or
the NFL's totally authentic about that. They were quoted yesterday
a guy in the NFL is like, well, yeah, the
Jets always won, So we're gonna squeeze every bit of
juice out of the orange we can with Aaron Rodgers
and get him on TV a bunch early, light easy
(11:13):
schedule early, but television early to let Aaron shine. WNBA.
You gotta do better. You gotta help Caitlin Clark. Because,
for the record, when Tiger came to the tour, everybody won.
The tournament's won, the other players won, the purses went up.
The networks made it work. I mean, networks were changing
(11:34):
programming whatever, whatever you gotta do, change the programming. Got
to do a better job of that, all right. So
two of the strangest opens I've ever had to a show.
The golf thing is just a tragedy and chaos. I
just feel bad for everybody. Also, we said this yesterday
(11:57):
in our show. We said this yesterday that bet the
Minnesota Timberwolves. Now we didn't say they win by forty five.
I think it was I gave it up middle of
the third, they emptied the bench. But it is, it is.
I'll tell you what it does show you about the NBA,
the Tea Wolves beating the Nuggets by forty five, and
(12:18):
it's not necessarily showing you something that's a bad thing.
And I'll talk about that coming up. Nick right by
the way in studio. He's out here in LA this weekend.
He's gonna sit down and join us. Can't wait for that.
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Speaker 1 (12:36):
So you had a feeling Minnesota was going to come
out very energized. I didn't know they be that energized.
And Denver sort of mailed it in. So we will
have a game. Seven does not mean Denver is guaranteed
to win. I don't know what the line is this morning.
Jamack will chase that down's four. I think I'd take
Denver to win, but I think they'll roll. But I
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would say this, What it really shows is that anybody
that can beat Denver by forty five points in a
playoff game, a close out playoff game, is a hell
of a team. The Celtics record against the East this
year was forty one and eleven, eight and two in
the playoffs. You know what the Celtics record was against
Denver Minnesota OKC two and four. There were one on
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one against the Lakers, who already got bounced. The Celtics
are just a team out West. They're unbeatable. They're they're
they're the greatest team on Earth in the East and
the and the West remains the grown up table, and
the East the kids table, and you can and these
Western teams are only getting you better. Minnesota once they
get ant a great running mate his Pippin, watch out.
(13:45):
They're well coached, brilliantly constructed. Denver's not going backwards OKC
and all their draft capital and stars. Dallas, uh, these
are just trench warfare. And what you notice about good
teams in the playoffs. Minnesota can win in Denver, Denver
can win in Minnesota. I mean Dallas has won a
couple of games in OKC OKC one in Dallas. The
Indiana Pacers, they're not at home. They're done six playoff games,
(14:09):
one in five on the road, most blowout losses. They
don't even look like they can compete. So if you
go back to MJ's Bulls, the six titles, half were
one on the road. If you go to the Warriors,
four titles, three of four were one away from the
Bay Area. So the better the team, the less reliant
you are on fans in the home crowd. The Knicks,
(14:31):
I'm sorry to say, are highly reliant on Madison Square
Garden and the energy it provides. But when I'm watching
this stuff last night, I'm like, tip of the cap
to Minnesota. I mean, Jamal Murray's hands banged up, Mike
Conley finally back. But in the West, if you're shorthanded,
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if Jamal Murray was just playing with a bad hand,
you're in big trouble. Mike Conley's out, you're in big trouble.
Knicks are missing four of their top eight players. They're
probably gonna win a game seven and go to the
Eastern Conference Finals. They're missing a center, a power forward,
oh gee, they're missing all their size. They're starting four guards,
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and because they're at home, mill win. It's just a
totally different sport. It's the SEC the last twenty years.
You know, the Alabama Georgia run, it was like you
could find the third or fourth best team often in
LSU they would be better, sometimes significantly than the champion
of another conference. And so that's what it feels like.
Tip of the Captain Minnesota, Jamal Murray had a bad
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hand and that was enough to get torched by a
great t Wolves team. Really good roster. J Mack with
a news.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, no turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
This is the herd line news.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
STORRT With the big game six tonight in Indiana, Jayalen
Brunson has the Knicks on the verge of their first
Eastern Conference Finals since two thousand. They're in Indianapolis for
the game. Josh Hart recently spoke about Brusson's late game
Erow compared him to Dame Lillard, saying, in my short
stint with Dame in Portland, my mentality was to make
sure the game was within striking distance in the last
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couple of minutes, so Dame can do what Dame does.
And it's the same same thing with Jalen Brun's is
gonna have to do it tonight without og Arnobi, who
has officially been ruled out again.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well he play in the next series.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Should be yeah, I mean maybe He's bet there for
Game seven. I don't know, maybe they just precautionary and
in case they needed a home Game seven.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I'm just curious on the Brunson comp of Lillard. I
don't know. I don't know if I'm buying that Lillard's
more of a three point like specialist.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, Brunson's he can make threes, but he's more of
a mid nine. Yeah, Dames a more naturally gifted offensive player, right,
Brunson's a lot of a grinder, floaters, mid range game,
better defender. You know, it's almost like Dame's an offensive
long ball specialist. That's what he does and as well
as almost anybody ever except maybe step Curry. So they're
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really actually, despite the position, they're really different players.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I don't know if you know this guy. It's not
quite seventies, but Andrew Tony who played Core sixers guard
twenty two. I barely remember him, but he was like
a mid range assassin Stocky.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Guards number twenty two. I think Andrew Jasey something like that,
and he was just like physical.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
That's who brought. But we don't see a lot of
point guards being mid range guys now.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Well, Chris Paul made their career again. Very good defender. Great.
If you're gonna Brunson is if he has a comp
it's Chris Paul. But Chris Paul more of a distributor
than a score. Nobody can Chris and Is primed their score.
He was a great. So Brunson and Chris good defenders,
smart guys, great leadership, are gonna bark. You know they're
gonna They're gonna take control of the floor.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I think bruns is a lot more likable than Chris Paul.
Chris Paul is weird.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I thought like I thought Chris Paul's commercials were funny. No,
Chris Paul was demanding of screw off teammates. Chris Paul
was demanding by the way, Phoenix stunk even with Booker
he got there. You're all of a sudden like, oh,
it's a finals team. You know. Sometimes leadership is hard. Yeah,
Tampa never had a leader at quarterback. Everybody loved Jamis.
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Tom had to bark at people. Remember Tom's screaming at
the Buccaneers O line in that meltdown in Chicago and
Brady screaming Jamis women, Winston's not gonna do that. I
didn't have the leadership moxie. So you know, leadership's hard.
You have to bark some day.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
You know, the two best teams Carmelo Anthony has ever on,
had Jason Kidd as a point guard in New York,
and I think Chauncey Billups was in the back court
in Debt, like you need that leader, that point guard,
and Brunson is kind of that guy.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I like it, But I like the Pacers tonight though
it's six and a half. Is it too steep for you?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Might stay away?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, Nick's got an extra day. The Pacers on the
money line.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But the Pacers are so bad defensively. If you go
on the road in a big game, a game six
or Game seven, there's no assurance that you will shoot well.
A great defense will keep you in any game seven.
That's why like the Pistons, and if you go back
to the Pistons, the Great Celtic teams, the Great Bulls teams,
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it's hard to blow those guys out because even Michael
can have a bad game, even Bird can be off.
The Pacers problem is you're getting no defense, so the
only way for you to win is hit threes because
your defense is awful and That's why if I see
a bad defensive team, I cannot take you seriously. You
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can't win big games in a series because I mean
even a legendary offensive player and Mbiid or a Harden
Kobe Bryant got to a Game seven, the one that
Meta hit the threes to beat the Celtics. Remember that
Kobe was atrocious, couldn't hit anything. But the Lakers would
not give the Celtics any easy bucket. They couldn't score,
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and it was like in the end, Meta was the hero,
a defensive guy who hit threes. So the Indiana Pacers
are gonna have to win a shooting contest to have
any chance.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Brunson maygaf to go for forty. Finally, Brunson or Sga,
who would you rather build around?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
This is a tough one. They're both.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Sga is a more gifted offensive player, But I think
New York. Where would I rather build around? In New
York Bronson in most cities, I take Sga. In New York,
the grittiness, Villanova, toughness, leadership, and an organization that's lacked
it for thirty years, I'd take Brunson. There are certain
players that work in certain towns. And cities. Brunson in
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New York, Brunson in Portland. Nobody cares Brunson with all
these Nova guys in New York, they were surgence of
a bad franchise. Take him over virtually anybody not named
Yo Kitch or Luca Brunton.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
The two in Dallas Conference Finals, he was very good
out duel Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And you could never move him in New York. He's
too valuable, all right.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Next up to a Tonga, entering the fifth year of
his rookie deal, still waiting on that new contract, who
has reportedly been mostly absent from voluntary OTAs since the
team reported back on April fifteenth. The report speculates his
the absence is related.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
To his contract.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Obviously, two is coming off the best year of his career.
Colin best year of his career. He just watched Jared
Goff get the bag and don't give me this. Well,
look at the playoff game.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's one data point.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
If you look at the season, Tua was phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
He was healthy. You said, can he be healthy? He
was healthy? Did he put up numbers? They were one
of the best offenses in the league.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Goff's a better player than Tua.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Okay, he's a three million dollars a year better.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Goff has no injury history college or Pro TWOA has
substantial injury history both. That has to figure in.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So Tua says, I won forty five million a year.
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Thirty seven?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Don't get it?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Well, I don't get an opinion as the team.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
You get a great opinion.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I also have the opinion to walk the hell out
of the office, slam the door.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I'll see your good luck a week. What moving back up,
Mike White, He's at the back of the four.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
If Fox doesn't offer you what you like, you're gonna
swam into the door.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I'm not doing that. That's the agent's dealing with Fox.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I don't you know, well, I think it's mostly the
agents deal with two. I don't think two is sitting
down with the owner and yelling over a who is
the franchise? Like, come on, he is?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
You take two out of McDaniel's offense. What are they
back to the Ryan Tannehill world?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
The world? What are they battling for a wild card
with about two weeks to go?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You mean almost didn't think win the division?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
What's the same offense in San Francisco where brock perty
can get you to the NFC Championship thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
So you think he's sixteen million dollars a year less
than than Jared Goff.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's what Got's getting. Daniel Jones got forty.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, that that's a bad con.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I don't care he's getting forty.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You can't let the Giants control the league market.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No oh, yeah, the market talks, and if market is
getting more.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Than the Giants talked, we're stupid. Yeah, Cleveland cannot set
the precedent. Nobody else is getting guaranteed money. Lamar Jackson's
much more than Deshaun Baltimore didn't go well, Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Set the market well the timing.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Everybody does it individually. I'm not I'm not buying this.
That guy got our situations differently.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Do you know what's different?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Hey, Raiders, Do you want to roll the dice with
Shader Sanders or you want Tua who could take you
to the playoffs instantly?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Raiders will give up forty forty five million a.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Hard I don't have a Telesco likes him, the GM
like you. I have no problem with Tua hitting the
market and leaving but that's what.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
You're doing by saying, hey, you're thirty seven million a year.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Well, what I'm saying is no state tax, Tyreek Hill,
Jalen Waddle, brilliant offensive coach. You don't think Miami's an
attractive place for a free agent quarterback next year? Okay,
they would be number one. They would be number one.
There's nobody Dak Prescott could be available.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You think Dak's better than Tua.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I think Toua throws a better ball. I think Dak
has a proven history of his Longer he's on the tarmac, longer,
I got more, I got more reps in the play here.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Gave me a good team for Dak next year. I
forget no, no Dak.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Keep your eye. If if Dak's gonna have I'll tell
you right now, Vegas. And if Tua left, Miami would
be interested in Dak, no question. I mean, Kirk Cousins
had a market. Kirk Cousins had two to three teams
after him. But my point is Miami's got a brilliant
offensive coach, tremendous weapons, drafts pretty well, no state tax,
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playing in warm weather. You don't think Miami Dolphins are
attractive to a free agent quarterback. I if I'm free
agent quarterback, if Miami would have been available this year,
and I'm Kirk Cousins, I'd have gone to Miami over Atlanta.
I get Tyreek Hill Waddle and that offensive coach or
losing franchise Atlanta defensive coach.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yeah, and like eight million dollars a year more. I
don't know what's the state tax situation in Nevada.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Red Raiders zero zero state tax.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Oh oh, that's an attractive spot, Davante Adams.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
They probably have some of the receivers. I'm not Oh,
brock Powers. Didn't they get Brock Powers?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeh?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Come on, Adam brock Powers.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I've got a sign with the player here.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
You could side with the billionaire owners and be in
penny pinching when it comes.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
To paying quarterback.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
John's supporting the little guy who wants thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Let's do it again, Let's do it again.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Jordan Love set to play on a one year extension
to his rookie deal this season. He's looking for another
long term contract just like two Ways. Despite Love trending
upward at the end of last season, leading to the
pack the Packers that went over the Cowboys. Adam Schefter reports,
wait for it, Green Bay and Love are not anywhere
close to a new deal, so currently not paid, no extension.
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Trevor Lawrence Tua, Jordan Love, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff. That
deal just reset the quarterback market.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
He is not. I'm sorry, he is not.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Definitively significantly better than any of those quarterbacks calling Jared Goff.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Come on, he's that much better than Jordan Love.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
At this point, I have a big, full resume of
Jared Goff's two NFC championship with two teams. Jordan Love's
given me eight good weeks. Jordan Love's gonna get his money.
He's just not gonna get it now. This idea that
you have to pay everybody early where did? This is
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not the NBA? What do you mean early?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It's not early.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
He's got a year left in his contract, and.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
If he gets injured this year with an ACL or something,
he's screwed and he's not.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Getting paid at all in today's medical advancements an ACL.
Joe Burrow's been hurt four times. He's upright now, you're
ready to move off if he gets hurt again. And
Kirk Cousins just got one hundred and eighty eight million
as an old man with an achilles surgeon loves tears
his acl They're not moving off Jordan Love. They heal it.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Fine.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Fine, Let's say he's throwing shoulder something real scary. Come on, man,
you got it for these guys.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, there's a difference between protecting a golfer getting into
a tournament and giving somebody two hundred and forty million.
When I just wanted like six more starts. That does that.
You're you're you're conflating two things. Like the Packers are
going to sign him.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Okay, so let's say they have six starts. We now
have the Packers schedule, and.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
He goes five and one. It looks great. Okay, well
they'll be working on that deal.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Pull the Packer schedule instantly. But oh hey, look we
can on technology. So they start with the Eagles. It's
a tough game.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Going to the Colts game is not going to be
a cake off. They should handle the Titans and the
Vikings LA will not.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Be about winning and losing. If he plays Anthony Richardson
and looks like the second best quarterback and Jalen Hurts
and looks like the second best quarterback and he gets
outclassed by Matt Stafford and Kyler and c. J. Stroud. Yes,
so then what then you're like, guys are personnel's equal.
We have to reconsider what we pay him. Oh interesting,
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My rule in the NFL it's always been the same,
pay huge money, very infrequently and only too quarterback, left tackle,
edge weapon. That's it. I'm not paying corners, I'm not
paying linebacker safeties. It's four positions quarterback, left tackle, edge
rusher or interior dominant lineman and a weapon or too.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
So in theory, that works.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
But Colin, there's this thing called chemistry that kind of
sort of matters. What's it going to do to the
locker room? What's it going to do to the franchise?
If you screw around with Jordan Love, all you've been
saying is the packers of the model they got far,
they got Rogers, they got Love, They're set, and now
you're gonna mess around and lowball a guy or wait
to pay him, show that man his money and keep
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that train rolling in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Collin, come on, the.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Train is rolling, and the train will continue to roll
just because it doesn't make an unnecessary stop in your
town doesn't mean Amtrak's not rolling. They got a scheduled
stop in about eight weeks. If he starts four to zero,
this story is going to change to Love in the
packers contract on the horizon. The story will shift very cool.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And then the price, what's the line from the wire.
Today's price isn't what yesterday's price was. And now that
forty becomes I need to see fifths.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, he's going to get more than forty.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
So two is a thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And Tua has an injury history in college and the pros.
Jordan Love has none that. And he's also a bigger quarterback.
He's more athletic. I think he's got a better arm.
Jordan Love in terms of size, mobility, whip injuries beats
two in all those, all.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Of that, I don't disagree.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I'm watching Jordan Love against Dak and it's not close.
Jordan Love's better, it's not close.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
The way you talk about him is like just them
pay the guy. I mean, give him a lot, and
you love him.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I love I love my kids. They're not getting anything
until I'm in a casket. There's a time and place
to pay. Everybody I'll be gone. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Heard Line news all you young Stallions. You want everybody
to get paid now, and it's like there's a time
and the place for everything. Green Bay's history is they
take care of their quarterbacks. With both Farvan Rogers, they
took passive, aggressive shots, a lot of neediness, star quarterbacks
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unhappy with change, and the Packers ate it and just
were the grown ups. And then they reached a point
with Farvan error and it's like we're moving on. They've
shown more patience than most teams with owners would when
quarterbacks take shots. Green Bay will I trust the Packers
to figure it out. It's okay that they want six
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more starts. This story is going to be different story
in six weeks.
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Speaker 1 (31:47):
So I thought this was incredibly honest and transparent. I
don't you know, We're in a time in society. I
don't care if you have a different opinion than I do.
You have a perspect give You can be a kicker
for Kansas City, a quarterback for Green Bay. You can
have a different opinion. I've said this about Aaron Rodgers.
I think he's gotten a little kooky. The darkness retreats
(32:08):
Iahwascat whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
He can have.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
His opinion on vaccines, a lot of people had that,
you know, got rushed to the market. You know, there
was conflicting evidence on some of the vaccine stuff. It's
just an opinion. It's a point of view. You can
have one. It's okay. I don't have to agree with it.
Just give me honesty, Give me your honest opinion and
I'll deal with it. But it's just a perspective. But
the NFL just opened up and admitted something on the
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NFL's NFL schedule and the New York Jets, which they
jammed a lot of their early games, very little rest
night games television, and Mike North, the vice president of
broadcast Planning, said, yeah, it's a lot of games in
prime time, but we kind of feel like the Jets
owe us. He goes. We had this conversation a year
ago and then Aaron Rodgers four plays in gets hurt,
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and we had all these TV games with the Jets,
so I feel like we could run it back. Our
broadcast partners, said Mike North, when they came to us
early in the process talk about what storylines they want
to focus on early in the season. The networks, obviously
Aaron's return was a key one for everybody, the NFL
admitting we're a television show. We're a sport first, but
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one a the sidecar is we're a television show. We
talked to our partners. Our partners say eight months ago, yeah,
these games, this feels like we'd writ and then when
we put the games up, and we move our schedule,
and we manipulate our schedule. They pursue the best stories.
They don't necessarily create the story. No, the league's not
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rigged or Aaron Rodgers doesn't get hurt last year. They
don't rig it. They don't create it. But they pursue it,
and they help market it, and they can manipulate the
game sort of how I do my show. How come
you don't give us credit on not visa you get interesting,
I'll talk about you, you're not, I won't put you
on the show, or I'll put you on later. So
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the only downside to having a star quarterback, and this
is about the only one. I mean, they're expensive. They
can limit some salary stuff. The other downside is your schedule.
You will get a lot of inconvenience. The Kansas City
Chiefs in December three games ten days, all against playoff
teams last year, and the Jets have six inconvenient night games.
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I look this morning. The Chiefs play on Sunday, Thursday, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.
They only get Tuesday off this year, and it's all
due to Patrick Mahomes. So I just appreciate the NFL's
willingness to be frank and honest to their television show,
and I think a lot of other leagues kind of
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struggle with this, and they're like, no, we want the
Chargers to start well. So we gave them the Raiders
at home, easier than playing in Vegas, and we gave
them Carolina, and we want Caleb Williams in Chicago, a
major market, to help Fox, our broadcast partner, so they
don't have I have to play the Packers the first
time until week eleven. Packers are really good. So Goodell
gives the Chargers Harvon Herbert, the weakest team in their
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division week one at home. They don't make Caleb Williams
play the Packers, an excellent team, maybe the best team
in their division till Week eleven. That's not a mistake.
They got to play them anyway. The NFL. I've said
this for years about March Madness. If I was TNT
or CBS or whoever pays billions of dollars for the tournament,
if I'm paying for the wedding, I get to make
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up the seating chart. I don't get to pick the
teams if I'm TNT or CBS. But I'm going to
tell you who I want to play each other in
the second round. I'm paying for the wedding, I get
some say and so yeah, the downside is they did
this a couple of years ago. The NFL did where
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they stacked Russell, Wilson and Denver early and then when
they stunk, they disappeared. So Aaron's got all his games
on TV early, none late. But the NFL has fleg scheduling,
and so if they want to get airon backed, they
protect themselves Sunday Night Football flex scheduling. Peter Scheger talked
about the Jets schedule.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
If you ever thought the NFL was scripted, I promise
you the last thing the NFL wanted was to lose
Aaron Rodgers four snaps into the twenty twenty three season.
So now they're going to load up the front of
the schedule with the New York Jets. And there is
an expectation that Rogers is healthy, that this is the
number one media market in the world, and that that
same story that kept us afloat last year with hard
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knocks and all the hype and all the expectations is
going to carry over to this year. The NFL shows
their cards a little bit by who they put on
early on in the season and who they promote in
these primetime games. And my takeaways are the NFL is
a lot higher on the Jets.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah. For the record, Jmack forty five minutes ago, I
started the show lamenting the WNBA, So unlike the NFL,
which is sort of grooving Caleb Williams to a potentially
easier start. Doesn't guarantee anything, but it could help the
w NBA with a bad Indiana fever team has him
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played the Connecticut son a top defensive team, twice in
the first four games, and the New York Liberty twice,
one of the better teams schedule bad teams give Caitlin
Clark a little bit of help early on. She struggled
in the game last night. So it's like, boy, the
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MLS is a great model for the w NBA to follow.
They have just made sure Beckham got the best possible
way to succeed MESSI got the best possible way to succeed.
And again, I don't know if you have to move
up a trade deadline get Indiana better fast? Well, Colin,
what are you saying? I'm saying leagues manipulate schedules. There
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was something a couple of years ago. It happened, it was,
it was rumored. I don't know if it officially happened.
Remember when the NBA put up an amnesty contract deal
because the Knicks were so buried in contracts. I know
it was discussed. I don't know if they went through
with it, but there was like this amnesty rule they
were talking about that everybody if you had a really
(38:20):
bad contract, I mean, you've got so many things happening
in collective bargaining. Sometimes you just have to change stuff
on the fly. So the WNBA, this is your Tiger Woods.
You just got to figure stuff out fast, like really
really fast. And NFL, and I've been on this for years,
they absolutely work their schedule to put stars in early.
(38:41):
If we have to put them on late, we'll flex it.
If not, we'll bury them. And there you go. Did
you see this? Jmack. I'm not gonna, I'm gonna. I'm
gonna talk about it to lead next hour. But it's
an interesting story. So Donovan Mitchell, you've been high on
him coming to the Lakers. Well, yeah, okay, NBA rumors
(39:03):
Donovan Mitchell grew frustrated by some of the Cleveland Cavaliers
lack of maturity and focus. Now, when I read that story,
tell me the NBA star that has never liked playing
with young players. Who could it be Lebron? That's why,
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Donovan Mitchell, you talk about the Lakers, I can guarantee
you Donovan Mitchell and Lebron's people would be talking Lebron James.
There was a certain player that played in the Eastern
Conference for years, and his people contacted Lebron and Lebron's people,
and Lebron's smart group was like, no, he's too immature.
(39:49):
He's really really good, but he's an idiot. He's just
on a grown up So Lebron's history, I mean he
was in LA about a year. He was moving off
the young guys. Remember he went to Eveland. Gimme Kevin
Love not a number one pick. I don't want to
take a chance that Andrew Wiggins isn't ready to play.
So Lebron look at his history, no interest playing with
(40:09):
young guys. Donovan Mitchell making sure telling somebody if it's
on the rumor mill, I don't like playing with the
young guys. Am I wrong? It's interesting, it's a very
fitting rumor. I say, if Lebron read that, he would
love that
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